Town Council - Regular Meeting

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I'm pretty sure I did. More friends.

Yeah, moving in the right direction. I'm supposed to get his pick line out.

Just kind of keep moving in the right direction. I appreciate it. He's going to class and until he gets his pick line out, he can't do all the fun things he wants to do like pick

All right, we'll start with the pledge of allegiance, followed by a moment of silence. I pledge allegiance. All right. Can we start with roll call, please?

Terry Reed. Here. Ryan Hartley.

Here.

Chad Melender.

Here.

Bill Neumann.

Here.

And Mr. Maple, Ethan Maple. Present.

Outstanding. Moving on to claims. 2.1, approval of invoice registrar 1-237 through 1-239.

Make a motion that we approve claims from invoice registers 1-237 through 1-239 as provided in our backup material.

I'll second that motion.

Moved by Ethan, seconded by Bill. Any further discussions? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Moving on to the adoption of minutes. 3.1, adoption of town council minutes from August 19th, 2026.

I'll make a motion we adopt the town council minutes from August 19th, 2026.

Moved by Ryan, seconded by Terry. Any additions, subtractions, or changes that need made? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? And that passes. Moving on to public comments. Three minutes per person for any item that is on the agenda today. If you would like to speak, please come up to the podium and state your name and address. don't live in the town of Palestine, let us know who you're here representing. And speaking to that mic, it's just recording you. It's not going to amplify your voice, just so my mom can listen at home.

Sir. I know he was showing pictures of what I'm here for because of the constant flood we've had for years, and we've tried to resolve it. You guys have helped. Dave Book ran a camera through it, and Tom Spiker finally resolved it for us, and he didn't include money for his pocket. He's been real gracious to me at the church. for other items that we needed. We needed a gas line repaired. Somebody wanted $18,000. He did it for $1,400. You know, he's just been a good friend to me and helped me a lot. And when he fixed that, he wasn't looking for money for his pocket. He had several expenditures that occurred, the length of the pipe, the extra help, gravel and stuff. So that's why I turned a bill in for $4,100 to... Reimbursed because we just got our we've not been able to pave our lot For all these years because we had a pond in our lot, but we got it paved 3100 315 anyway that was good now we got a new lot and when people parked there for the music events They're not stumbling on potholes so and and it was even encroaching into the road they paved a couple foot of the road because They needed it. So we took care of all that, and I was just asking that the town would reimburse us for what Tom did to fix the water problem, which also encroached on the road. When that water flooded, it'd be there for three days sometimes. It just wouldn't go anywhere. Sir, what's your name? David Derringer. Sorry. I've been affiliated with the church forever, president and elder.

And... What your request is, is that we compensate for the $4,100 that was work that Spiker did? Yes.

And this is the way that lays out on that street. It's kind of offset and it's kind of partially in their parking. as well that actually our our drain you know caused a lot of issues at that intersection like mr niemeyer lives close by he's probably seen it every time it floods so that's a good fishing spot it was yes so is it is there more work that needs to be done to that no what needs to be done that is probably a conversation with the school because there is a drain that goes probably 1,500 2,000 feet all the way to vendor road A lot of that's clay tile. Ryan can attest, clay tile's just not good. So it's 100 years old. It was back in the day, what they had.

So the 4,100, would we pay that to Tom Spiker, or are we going to pay it to the church?

No, I already paid him from the church's funds. So, yeah, I didn't want to, because, yeah.

Well, we didn't know you had already paid that. We received the Tom Spiker bill, and we entered it as us paying him. So if we're going to reimburse you, we probably need to do a little bit of paperwork before you leave, if you don't mind. Okay, sure. We'll take that information down.

Very good. But that's why I asked.

Yeah.

So that whatever we do, we are certainly dealing with the right parties.

Yes. Yeah, I went ahead and paid him because it seemed like the right thing to do.

Okay.

I hear a motion on that.

You want to go a little out of order? I'm happy to make a motion on item 6.3 that we agree. Because we'll get to it. You tell me. We can get to it. We can get to it.

Okay. Thank you for that information. Anybody else? Outstanding. No old business. So we'll move on to new business. First thing on the agenda is accepting the donation for the K-9 Gulf fundraiser.

So we had the K-9 fundraiser as a reminder for anybody who doesn't know the K-9 program. the police dogs are solely funded by donations. So we had another annual golf outing and this year in addition to that we sold t-shirts which you're also very kindly modeling.

For the dogs.

There you go. Those are the canine dogs that we currently have on the

We've got additional shirts if you are a 2X or bigger or you want to buy some for kids. So if you haven't got your shirt yet, there's still a chance.

Yes, resell them for $25, and I can sell them to you tonight. But we had a great result from that. We had $14,793.15 that we collected from the golf outing. That's a little bit more than I knew last week or the week before when I sent an email out to the police officers because we keep on occasion selling summer T-shirts. So that's included in this donation form. We also received the $200 from Jason Combs for the scrap metal that he went and had recycled and donated that $200. And then this week, we also received an anonymous donation of $1,000 for the K-9 program. So it was a very specific donation, very kind from a local resident who would prefer to be anonymous. So but yeah, so you're if you'll please, you know, accept this donation of $15,993.15 for the program. That would be awesome.

I'll make a motion that we approve the donations as presented in the backup materials and with whatever the actual amount is. I'll second that.

Moved by Bill, second by Ethan. Any further discussions on that?

Just thank you for everyone who donated, purchased a shirt, participated in any manner in the golf outing. It's a great cause. Each year it gets a little bit bigger, and it's a great place to go and win an Indiana Fever jersey.

How much does this cost, the canine program? Do you want to speak on that a little bit?

Yeah, that's awesome.

I'll say it was a full event this year.

There's a ton of people who donated their time, their money, their resources. So thanks to everybody who did all those things. Yvonne and the officers did a great job putting it together. And then if you know Yvonne, she's got strong arm, all the volunteers to come out there. I think we had... A huge group of people that came out and helped. It was an awesome event. So thank you guys very much for helping for that.

It was fun and it's a great program.

Yep.

And from my position, I hear the benefits that we get from it whenever the dogs are put in action. And yeah, I think it's phenomenal.

Did that amount cover the damage done to the putting green or? all those in favor say aye aye opposed awesome excited and thanks to whoever made that anonymous donation hopefully our shirts are advertising out there and people want to be a part but thanks to that individual Next thing on the agenda, 6.2 is planning commission appointees. And I would like to continue Nancy Owens on the planning commission. She's graciously agreed to continue to donate her time. And then Penny Hildebrandt, who's with us today, is going to move from the BZA to the planning commission. So we'll fill that BZA spot shortly. But thank you very much for donating your time, Penny.

We have people leaving the planning commission.

Yes. We have one that's leaving.

All right. And then will you also be reappointing Brian Smith? It looks like his term ends or ended August 10th.

I think we already reappointed him.

Just to make sure.

To ensure we are good. I will reappoint Brian Smith. Yes, you're right. Yes, I will reappoint Brian Smith as well. So Nancy Owens, Brian Smith, and Penny Hilbert. Thank you for that catch. All right, moving on to 6.3, New Palestine United Church drain repair.

I'll make a motion that we reimburse the church $4,100 as documented in the backup materials. And as was discussed earlier, probably the true value if you hired someone else would have been greatly higher. But Mr Spiker certainly has demonstrated and invested commitment to the town, not just at this location and others. So that price is extremely reasonable, and I make a motion that we reimburse that amount.

Motion made by Bill, seconded by Terry. Any further discussions? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? And that passes. Thank you, sir, for doing that for us.

You know I lost my lake. I can't go fishing.

Yep, no more fishing. You just got back from a fishing trip, so you're good for now.

I like to fish.

Okay. Nothing on continued council conversations. I know we've got a lot of different things that we're continuing to talk about, but is there anything that we need to talk about here? We got a lot of, we got a lot of conversations going on, but.

I think this would be, were we going to make a motion relative to identifying council persons to work with our common ground engineers as we Look at change orders relative to the sewer plan completion. Commonwealth. Commonwealth. Sorry.

We have common ground with Commonwealth. I think that's what he was getting at.

We have a lot in common.

Yeah.

Commonwealth.

Yeah, I would entertain a motion.

Okay. I would move that we look to... Negotiate? I'm going with Ryan and Chad. to work with Commonwealth and their negotiations with Thienemann at the change orders relative to completion of the sewer plant. I'll second that motion.

All right. Motion made by Ethan, seconded by Bill. Any further conversations? At the end, we can talk about public comments.

I would authorize some level of force with that motion. Understood.

Ryan and Chad with force.

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Awesome. Ryan and I will take that and run with it. Anything else? Legal updates?

Right.

Awesome. Thank you. Department reports. Jim.

I know I'm still working with Arbor Homes on the annexation, and I was approached this week with the old Duffy Barn across the street from the Wellness Center. They want to be annexed into town as well. I think there'll probably be a change of use. We'll probably go to the VZA, that discussion there as well. So it'd be similar to what So it's just nice to get another business into town. And I think that's it. Tomorrow I will get the final hard copies of the apartment complex on the civil engineering. They're completed, so they'll be dealt out to individuals for bidding, and they are pushing to get some dirt. Are you a buddy?

Yeah. Awesome. Thanks. Mr. Poole?

I have nothing to add other than the fact that we have wrapped up the 2026 Community Crossings Project. It's time for the September 1st opening of the 2027 call for the Community Crossings Project.

I've got a little paperwork done on that.

So we're about ready to go to get it in. Awesome. Thank you.

Chief? Yvonne?

I was notified last week I got a question from the State Board of Accounts for some information that kind of tipped me off. But this week I got official information that we're getting another audit, which the audits normally happen every four years. So I anticipated it next year. So I'm not really sure why we're getting a three-year audit, but they change it up every now and then. So I guess our number came up. So we've already sent them some information, filled out some paperwork. I'm assuming over the next five, six months, they'll start doing the audit remotely first, and then they'll come in here and come and ask questions. Our information and our paperwork is in great order. I don't anticipate any issues. We'll set them up like we did last time in the conference room and answer whatever questions they have. And there we go. So that's what's happening. And that's really the only new thing I have.

I don't anticipate them finding anything, but I know they're in great hands with you and the team. Let us know if there's any support you need from us and that I know it's a long detailed process. So keep us keep us informed. I know you guys don't got a lot going on.

So, you know, we don't have anything going on. So, you know, we welcomed another.

Yeah, why not? And then I think we talked about it at the budget meeting. But thanks to you and the team for going out and helping another municipality. It says a lot about the town, right? But really what it says is the employees of the town realize there's a need from somebody in the same line of work and you guys did everything to go help them. So I really appreciate everything you guys did there.

That's very kind of you. You know, we did it with every, you know, every bit of Happiness that we don't have any water damage here. We're so lucky. If I see, but all they're going through. So, yeah, you're welcome.

All right, um, we'll move on to public comments.

5 minutes on any topic.

You just tell me who you are and where you are. So that price, basically, our financial team looks at the whole process of this, how much we're going to receive in, how much the cost is, what we need to pay and maintain that, and that's where it came up.

People up there have four kids.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that. The normal way this works is water usage versus sewer, but we don't own the water. That was sold out years ago. I don't know when. I don't know. Citizens.

Citizens owns the water. Coverland's paying about the same rates we are. The problem was the sewer bill was never increased for a long time. And the plant that sits down there, Agents just like we do and nothing nothing was invested other than the normal rate So when you have to do and go new construction construction cost 20 years ago versus what they are now As you probably know the price of everything goes up substantially So when you have to build a new plant, it's not as cheap as it was 20 years ago Legally, the only way we have to pay for that plan It's the rate fees The builders do pay. Every house that's built here has to pay a hookup fee, and that hookup fee is legally at the highest we can charge.

I went back 36 years to look at sewer rates, and in the last 36 years, we have not increased rates in 28 years. So that's the crux of the problem.

It's right down the road.

Right here on Bittner. South. Yep.

We'd love to show it to you. Unfortunately, it's got to go somewhere and we're trying to do the right thing. Unfortunately, we can't go house to house to figure out how many people are there because most people are going to say, oh, it's just me, right? So we can't charge by person. Trust me, there is nobody up here or around here that wants to lose your trust over this. Additionally, there's a ton of things that we've tried to do to figure out how to lower this cost, right? We pay that bill, too, unfortunately, right? And I can promise you it's not something that we take lightly, the fact that everybody has to do that based on decisions we're making, but those are tough decisions that we have to. If you look back into some of the other meetings we've had, we kind of explained how we got here, but I'm more than happy to sit down and walk you through it all so you can understand why we made the decision that we did.

I'll radiate you below, and I'll

I'm yep, I'm I'm in my 40s and I'm tired so I can only imagine how tired you are.

So well, I hope not.

Well, we got we got chief here. He's gonna take care of that. He gonna make sure that won't happen.

If you want to have any continued conversations about the sewer plant and how we got at the rates we are, any of us would be happy to sit down and talk with you and explain it to you. We wanted to send those letters out because we want to be as transparent and upfront with the public as possible.

And Ryan, I'm always here. So he's more than welcome to come in town and talk with him all the way through it.

So for six years ago, and that's that's not just this gentleman that goes for anybody in the public. If anybody in the public has any question about how we got to where we're at now. I've seen social media, there's a lot of misinformation flying around there. You can't pull up Facebook and click on a thread and believe everything that's typed on there people people put out a lot of misinformation there the only way to know what's going on is come to meetings and listen to us or talk to us or talk to the talk to the staff and we can we'll be more than happy to open the books let you talk to you about everything and let you know how we got where we're at Don't just go on social media and believe everything you read. Well, yeah, you don't want to deal with it. There ain't nothing to trouble you. But that being said, we're an open book. So if anybody wants to talk to us about anything, I encourage the public to reach out to us. That's what we're here for.

But I apologize that you're losing faith in us. Just understand we're doing the best we can, and we'll continue to do that. Thank you. Anybody else? You had a question about me?

Yeah.

4568 West Lawrence way a couple of different things 1 on the same subject. He was talking about, um, I guess my big concern on is number 1. I don't think any of us want to pay anymore, but I think the, the biggest concern I have with it is. when's it going to stop we just had an increase from 96 to 107 or whatever it was and now we're being told it's 134 something okay so are we done yeah this was actually the letter that i received today too the letter that uh we we sent out this week is a it's not a new decision right we made that decision last year in september correct

two years ago, two years ago, actually 2000 when the last rate increase at that point, we could have had a much higher one and had one increase and the decision was made to do it in layers. So there was one and we when that increase was voted on exactly the same time, same motion. It was the increase two years later. Does anybody know the ordinance?

Yep. Basically, what had to happen is, in order to fix the problems in the sewer plant, we had to pass a rate increase ordinance, and we stair-stepped it. One went into effect last year, the other one went into effect this year. And so that was, the letter is a reminder of what we did already, and that's the extent of what the rate increase ordinance covers. So there's no other increases planned This this increase covers the work that we're we're doing currently with it.

So, if there's any more increases in the sewer. There'll be a public hearing or a rate increase.

Absolutely. Just like we did last time.

Okay. Yeah. So that's what I mean. So. Everybody here no. This is where it's going to be.

Right. But it won't be there for 18 years or 28 out of 36.

Well, as long as we keep voting it down, it will be.

Well, and again, we went through a year's worth of meetings and debate over the sewer fix, and doing nothing was not an option. When you're at capacity... you then run the risk that the state comes in, takes over, and then they privatize it. And if it's bad now, it'd be worse with a 30% profit that some companies out there want to charge. So the decisions we made, which were not easy, they're not friendly to anybody, including ourselves, we made to avoid a bigger harm.

In the development on the Arbor Homes, Are we going to spend the money to hook them up, or are they going to spend the money to hook up to our sewer?

They will.

And by them hooking up to our sewer, the day one they turn that switch on, we all get a decrease in our bill, right?

I wish it worked like that, but no. All jokes aside, though, honestly, that's the intent. The more people that can hook up to this, the more of the burden gets shared. Right? And that's why we're making the decisions that we're making to try to allow that to happen. So we've got the apartments that are right behind Mr pool over there that are going in. Those are all hookups that will go into that pot. That will allow us to start looking at that to see if we can lower that or. maintain it, right? We shouldn't go 28 years without raising a fee because inflation happens. But if we're adding enough people, we can continue to push off those. But for your information or anybody else that's watching online like my mom, October 2nd, 2024 that was passed. And if you watch that YouTube video of this, you'll see I clearly remember Ethan brought up the fact of like, hey, we're raising it to this price today, but it is going to move to this at this time. We've talked about it a couple of times. communication is hard because everybody takes it in different ways, but we've tried everything we can. And that's why we sent this letter out to try to give everybody a heads up. We knew it was going to fire back up emotions, but we want to continue to remind people.

So I guess on the same line with all that, adding all these people on is going to take more capacity. Do we have the capacity or are we going to have to build again?

No, no. We built, we built recognizing that, um, the future's coming and there's going to be more homes. And so the capacity of the new plant, what was it, three times what the other one was?

I think we could take on about 3,500 additional customers, which is roughly about the population of the town now. So when we upgraded the plant, we built that, keeping that in the back of our mind. We didn't want to have to do this in 10 years again. That being said, even if we had additional customers, we don't want to sit up here and promise you that your bill's going to be lower either. We're not promising them. What we'll do is we'll do a rate study in the future and see where that bill needs to land.

down the same process quickly on that real quick though right um and correct me if i'm wrong jim the system that we chose to put in there with all the advice that we've got from everybody is easily expandable i mean i say easily right you're not building a whole new plant but they can build a tank add a tank and that will allow us to to increase if we need to at a much cheaper rate than starting from scratch all over again

And what is the benefit of annexing the harbor homes?

That's more people that will hook up. So that's more people that will pay into this, utilizing the capacity and putting more money into that account, which will allow us to start to look at that.

But it's also more wear and tear on everything else, too.

Well, there's going to be wear and tear on those roads anyway. So if we annex that, then we will get the tax money for those roads. We will also get the AVs from those rooftops. Those people will hopefully spend their money in this town. So it's nothing. These subdivisions, this development, it's coming whether we want it or not. So we might as well accept it. Now that doesn't mean we have to accept everything. We are still being somewhat selective. There are other communities that just let anything go in that they want or that proposes to build there. We're not that community. So we are still being selective.

So have we already, are we going to annex this first before we give the go-ahead for the home side?

We'll start that annexation process and then they will be planning and then we'll talk about the product that they want to put in there, the number of homes they want to put in there, all that kind of All those will be public meetings.

But what I'm saying is all that, they won't be able to go in there now, do it now, then we annex them in, is what I'm saying. So we'll have a say on the architectural and everything else.

To the extent we can, in light of a recent statute that attempted to abolish all local building criteria, and I mean, call me the old historian, We had a builder who came, presented a product that was not safe. And when we pointed out they would lose some density to make a little bit longer driveway, a little bit wider road, their response was, take it or leave it. And this, well, it wasn't this council, that council unanimously said, leave it, we don't want it. You're going to build a product that a fire truck can't get down the road if a house is on fire, property damage, maybe lives, nobody on this council is going to say yes. So anybody that thinks that we're going to rubber stamp and approve anything, even in light of the legislature saying you can't have any control over what materials are used, when it comes to life safety, we're going to have those requirements. So we don't say yes to everything.

And the only other thing I had pertaining to the motion you made earlier for the two councilmen to meet with Commonwealth, before that's all drawed up and you meet with them, are you guys going to send that to the attorney and have him go through it first?

Everything goes through our attorney.

Okay. That's what I mean. So it'll all go before you meet.

Yeah, we generally have the attorney review everything we do. We don't want to expose ourselves.

No, no, I'm just saying.

Yeah, we try to cross our T's and dial our I's.

Yeah, before it goes too deep.

Yeah, we can take recommendations and advice from somebody, but ultimately at the end of the day, that's the guy that keeps us out of trouble.

What will happen is Commonwealth will write it up. We will give it to our attorney. Our attorney will say, yep, you're good. We're good on this. If I have him write it up, he costs a lot. I love him to death. He's a good dude other than the fact that he went to IU. They've been drafted. Exactly.

They can review it, but yes.

Now, because of the amount of money we're talking about, is there going to be another public hearing on that to accept it or deny it?

Anything and everything that this town council does requires a vote a motion that can only be done in public. So we can have executive sessions, administrative meetings, all of those things. In none of those do we make decisions. We get information so that when we're here, We make decisions. There will be nothing that happens that doesn't happen at a public meeting.

So what you're saying is before that's accepted between you and the contractor, it will be brought for a vote before the council whether to accept it or not?

Absolutely correct.

As far as contract changes?

What we authorized were two representatives to negotiate, try to get an agreement. But whatever that agreement is, it then comes back to the council at a public meeting.

Yeah, change orders have to be approved at council meetings.

Yeah, and we can't send more than two people into that meeting without it being a public meeting. And that's why we picked two. No, I understand that side of it. Right, and that way we're not, everything doesn't have to be negotiated at a public meeting, but two people have authority to represent the council. Right. But the process, it absolutely comes at a public meeting for a final vote. Final vote. Absolutely. Okay.

And I have the assurance of the council that our last increase on our sewer, the one coming up.

We cannot do it without an ordinance. An ordinance number 100224-ALPHA. established the rate as of the 2026 rate. There is not another increase that is in that ordinance, and that ordinance is what drives it. So if there is a change, it will happen in a town council meeting. And I can promise you that it won't be a bring it in one day and let it go. It'll be talked about for a very long time if we have to do it. I think what we all learned from this is we can't just let it go and hope that it fixes itself. We're going to have to address it head on.

And there will be a rate increase. We don't know when or how much, but this council will not wait 28 years and then have to triple your bill. If somebody would have started an incremental whatever percentage, it could have been 3% over those years and not

If you followed consistent inflation through the inflation report run by the federal government, we would be at $75.74, and we would have a surplus of $788,215 based on that.

If you'd have done a cost of living adjustment every year, right?

The problem is we didn't, and then we needed all the money to fix something that didn't go right and then replace it with something new, unfortunately.

And how many years is that on the replacement of that?

Replacement of? The bond. How long does it take to pay it off?

It's a 20-year bond. So we chose the most aggressive, which was 20 years. If we would have chose 25 years, that would have been an additional $3 million in interest we would have paid. As a town. And that's just bad math.

It was a negligible monthly payment as well.

Five to ten bucks.

Yeah.

We chose the most aggressive. We made that decision not based on this gentleman, not based on a family of ten. We made it based on the whole community. We knew it was going to have negative effects on elderly people on fixed income, single moms. Everybody. Literally everybody. We knew that. But that was the option that was at hand. The last council had got it to that point and didn't complete it to where they got it to the financing portion. They got through the design portion. I wish that they would have chose that because then all that weight and negativity wouldn't have been on us, right? But they got it to the design point. And really, we ought to thank them for doing that because if not, this process, if it were delayed another two years, imagine what the construction costs would have been two years later. It could have been another 5% to 7% higher.

Doing nothing was not an option.

Can I go back to a second?

You cannot. Unfortunately not. Sorry. Unfortunately not. Sorry.

Not in the seat of the break.

Please come in the office and let us know.

Anybody else? Awesome. Moving on to council comments.

Ethan, you get to go first. Number one, I want to reiterate that when Yvonne talks about us having an audit by the state, I'm not worried because I appreciate I know all the work you guys put into it. So I know that that's taken care of and I'm not concerned about that at all. And I'm pretty confident that not every town council can say that. So thank you for the work that you guys do on that. We do have a council chat this Friday. So anybody who just wants to talk about things going on at town, good, bad, and ugly, Friday morning at 8 a.m., I'm going to be at Tia's and with any one of these individuals who would like to join me. to just be there available for town persons to share their thoughts about what's going on at town. And maybe it's a good opportunity to share a little bit more about how we got to where we did with the sewer, if you're curious. But we'll be there at 8 a.m. Who's joining me? I gave you like 30 seconds.

I will gladly join you at Tia's. I'll join you every day at Tia's if you'd like.

I'll be at the Purdue game, so I can't make it there.

Unless somebody else really wanted to, I am happy to.

Which sport? Which sport are you going to?

Football.

Well, tailgating, really, to be honest. Playing in the United States. That's what we're going to do.

I'm looking forward to all those championships. All right.

Are you done? Did he say Google?

Council chat Friday, 8 a.m. with Bill. Yes, I'm done.

Okay. Yeah, thanks to everybody. There's a lot that's been going on the past couple weeks. Appreciate everything that the whole town has done, the employees and everybody, a lot of moving parts, so appreciate that. I do want to give a shout-out to the Cadet Football League. A lot of people here in town have kids that play in that league. I think they've done a lot of good things. This week, with the heat, they've made a lot of changes, and it really kind of – shows the emphasis that they put on the safety of those kids and the learning that they get to go through. So excited that they're doing that. Unfortunately, I'm missing my son's game, but I'm sure there's great things going on there. But that's all I have. And Bill, you're up.

I echo ditto everything that's already been said. And I just want to also, it's not necessarily the town council. It's a town in general. last Friday at the high school football game. If you want to see what small town community looks like, that place was packed. It was brutal. We lost a game and we don't normally lose a high school football game. But when you sit in those stands and you see how many people you could be there for the band, you could be there for the junior cadet football players that were recognized You could be there because of the high school team, or you could be just like me. You're just there because it's part of the community. My kids are no longer in any of those things, but love going to them. So what a phenomenal opportunity. We don't have a home game for three weeks, but I certainly encourage everybody to participate because it really is a neat experience. I don't have anything else to say.

It was a very neat experience. unless you were in line to try to get some food. So I had a kid that wanted, one of the nephews wanted a pretzel, and because there's so many people there, but that's a good thing. So that's awesome.

If you were there until the end, though, you got Chick-fil-A sandwiches for $1. I missed that. There was a lot of things that got missed on that night.

Terry.

September birthday, officers Tyler and Cole, and Brandon from Town Hall.

Ryan. We want to encourage everybody from the public, if you have questions, you want to talk about stuff, reach out to one of the council members. We're available. All you got to do is email us, call us. We're always available to chat. We'll make a time for you. College football season, week one, not week zero, but week one starts this weekend. I'm pumped. So that's where you're going to find me is on my back porch watching college football. I don't care how hot it is. So just looking forward to that.

Awesome. I appreciate everybody being here. It's nice to have a full audience. So thank you all for taking time out of your day to come spend with us. And with that, I will...

I'm happy to make a motion to adjourn. I'll second.

All those in favor? Aye. Opposed?

Thank you.