Joliet Historic Preservation Commission - Regular Meeting

Gonna call to order the Joliet Historic Preservation Commission meeting for Wednesday, 04/23/2025. It is 06:04PM. Can we have

a roll call? Edomowski? Here. Vesseler?

Here.

Gannon Hineman? Here. Johnson? Here. Lowry? Here. Merwin? Here. Dakota is absent. Spiegel said he would be absent. Stovall? Here. Right. Here. Okay. We have quorum. Okay. Next is the approval of

the meeting minutes for the Joliet Historic Preservation Commission regular meeting from 02/25 nope. 02/2625. Are there any changes or alterations that need to be made to

the meeting

minutes? If not, can I get a motion to approve?

Approve. Okay. So moved.

I'll do this so moved.

K. Stoble is the motion. Is there a second?

Second. There

you go. Mister Bessler is second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Adamowski? Aye. Bessler?

Aye.

Cannon? I'm not here. Heinemann?

Abstain. Johnson?

Aye. Lowry? Aye. Merwin? Aye. Stovall? Aye. Okay. Those are

approved. Okay. Next would be citizens to be heard on agenda items. Currently, there are no citizens. Next would be, old business. There is none new business. First would be the grant agreement with the State of Illinois Department of Natural Resources for the Joliet Oral Histories Contact Study. Okay.

So good news. Great news. The city via their well, I can read this, but, yeah, we got the grant. Yeah. So so some background.

The state of Illinois certified local government matching grant program annually provides preservation heritage planning opportunities for the 83 Illinois municipalities that have been certified by the Illinois State Historic Preservation Office. The city of Joliet, by having a qualified historic preservation commission, historic preservation ordinance, and a system for the survey and inventory of local historic resources is a certified local government. In November 2024, the city of Joliet through its historic preservation commission sought a CLG grant in the amount of 21,000 to fund an oral history project focusing on the history and culture of the Joliet area black community. Such grant funding would leverage the ongoing Joliet area African American historic context study project to allow for more individual stakeholder engagement, enable high quality video interviews, and creation of a digital archive that can be publicly available. So we were recently notified that the city was awarded the requested $21,000 in CLG funding for this project.

So tonight, you know, staff's looking for a a motion to either recommend or not recommend for approval or denial of the grant agreement. And this would go to city council at either their first meeting in May or second meeting in May. So further, I will note that this grant agreement is with the state of Illinois Department of Natural Resources. So the Illinois State Historic Preservation Office is in within the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. We call it IDNR.

So that is embedded with that organization. It has been for a couple years. And then the city will be providing the required 30% local match for this project, and that's gonna be coming out of our planning division professional services budget. So that's a $9,000 local match. That's the planning division typically does budget to do a match through the CLG grant program if we apply for it. The project period would begin on the date of the signed grant agreement and would include any expenditures incurred through 06/01/2027. Does anyone have any questions?

Okay. So we would need a motion to recommend or not recommend the grant agreement.

I will make a motion to, recommend that the city of Joliet, to approves the CLG grant. Is that is that

the right terminology? Yep. Okay. Is there a second?

Second. Okay.

The city does have to approve it. Right?

Yeah. The city council. City council. Yeah. Yep. Alright. We have a motion and a second for to recommend approval for the grant agreement with the State of Illinois Department of Natural Resources for the Joliet Oral Histories Context Study Project. Ademowski? Aye. Vesseler? Aye. Heinemann? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Lowry? Aye. Merwin? Aye. Stoeble? Aye. Okay.

K. Next on the agenda is the okay. I'm gonna mess this up again. Programmatic. K. Agreement between the city of Joliet, the Illinois State Historic Preservation Office, and the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation.

Okay. So as as background, the city as a direct recipient of funds from the US Department of Housing and Urban Development, as we all know is HUD, the Illinois Housing Development Authority, and the Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity, the city of Joliet is subject to the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966 and implementing federal regulations as described within 36 CFR part 800. These regulations refer to the terms that all funded activities effectively respond to undertakings, findings, and the resolution of adverse effects on historic and potentially historic properties when utilizing grant opportunities. The city is currently operating without an active state historic preservation officer programmatic agreement, resulting in all environmental reviews being sent to the state level to review and approve. This agreement by by the city approving this agreement and by this commission recommending approval would allow the city to utilize internal qualified personnel with the required section one zero six certification to act on behalf of the Illinois SHPO, stands for State Historic Preservation Office, to assist with environmental reviews, determine historic properties and areas of potential effects for a variety of projects, including rehabilitation, new construction, demolition, infrastructure improvements, among other eligible activities.

An active agreement would allow the internal qualified personnel to make such determinations, eliminating the state's sixty day review period and avoiding additional external delays. So in conclusion, this programmatic agreement will effectively streamline the city's funding opportunities, minimizing external review periods and utilizing the certified internal staff when completing environmental reviews required for funded activities. That essentially includes staff's report. I'll note that as far as I know, I'm the only qualified internal city personnel. So in order to qualify, you have to have, you know, academic training and or in conjunction with years of practice in the field of historic preservation.

So I am currently that I meet those qualifications, which is also why I serve as program manager for our CLG grants because I also meet those qualifications. We we had when I came here on staff, we, at that point in time, which I think we had we entered into agreement with the SHPO was 2018. It was for a five year period. So that was maybe it was 2019. But so I was acting in this capacity before as the city's qualified staff, but that agreement since expired.

And then just to give you, like, a flavor of what that entails. So through the CDBG program as as outlined in this staff report, if there is a request for funding to do a new roof for a house in, we'll say, the neighborhood South Of McDonough Street, because that's using state and or federal funds, that automatically has to get reviewed just to to ensure that there's no adverse effects or potential effects to any historic properties. So I would review that project and it's asphalt roof replacement. Then I would I would say no or yes or no. I actually haven't had any determinations of a of an effect since I've been here.

And I do, like, five reviews, maybe 10 reviews a year. And then that automatically then goes back to our CDBG manager, and she's able to facilitate that essentially permit request and funding request through the process. Otherwise, it has to go downstate, as we say, and it could take up to sixty days for someone to, you know, get a new roof. These are all often emergency repairs, like a new water heater. I'm trying to think of other things I've done. Mostly roofs and water heaters. Is

is this, like, designated properties or any properties?

I have never seen a designated property. No. But be Okay. Again, these are anything that touches this CDBG funds have to get

rid here. Federal funding that come okay.

This agreement also allows us to it doesn't mandate that I that I or and if there was another another certified staff member have to do the reviews. If there was anything that city staff felt was too controversial or too complicated, we could send it back downstate, and they could do that review. Yep.

Okay. Any other I I just have when I was looking in the you know, I always have a question. When I was looking in that I I hope I have the right part part of the agenda. But there was the section about the federally recognized tribes with interest in Will County. Does that have to do just with archaeological? Yes. Okay. I mean I mean, that's why it was included because I I was just kinda curious about that.

Yeah. Okay.

It was kinda interesting. I mean, you know, showing, like, what you could run into. So

Okay.

If there is no if there we would need a motion to recommend or not recommend the agreement between the city and the state of of Illinois Historic Preservation Office. So we need a motion to either recommend or not recommend.

I will make a motion to recommend, approval of the programmatic agreement between the city of Joliet, the Illinois Historic Preservation Office, and the advisory council on historic preservation. I'll second.

Okay. Motion to second. Is there is there any other discussion on this? Okay. Anamowski? Aye. Bessler? Aye. Heinemann? Aye. Johnson? Aye. Lowry? Aye. Merwin? Aye. Stovall?

Aye. Okay. It's approved. Okay. Next on the on the agenda is the Joliet Historic Preservation Commission annual report for 2024.

Yes. So as part, again, of the city Of Joliet's responsibilities as a certified local government, an annual report of the Joliet Historic Preservation Commission's functions and activities has been prepared. The city of Joliet received certified local government status in 1995, And the CLG program was established by the National Historic Preservation Act amendment of 1980 to integrate local preservation programs into the existing federal state preservation partnership. CLGs are required to prepare and file their annual report with the state historic preservation office. And city ordinance also requires the city council to accept and place on file this said report.

So under discussion, the historic preservation commission and city staff were actively involved in important preservation initiatives in 2024, many of which were recently completed. And these many of these resources are also now available on the historic preservation web page on the city's website. So again, just some highlights under reviews for certificates of appropriateness. You reviewed and approved a new detached garage at 612 Western Avenue. Alternative materials for facade restoration work for 9 West Cass was approved.

Replacement doors at 19 West Cass approved. Vinyl replacement windows at 420 Whitney Avenue was not approved. And then staff conducted 22 administrative reviews, including ongoing administrative reviews for 575 East Jackson Street, which is the Cassidy House, 900 North Raynor, which we'll also probably we'll talk about in a couple minutes. And then there is a house on Eastern Avenue. I think it's 23 Eastern.

They've been just painstakingly, methodically trying to renovate and fix their facade. So every year, they submit a request to staff and the building department just to outline again what they plan to do for that upcoming year. And I think if you go down that street, you'll know which house I'm talking about. It's painted blue, and they've been working their way around the side of the the house. I think it looks really nice.

Administratively, I also reviewed a demolition permit for 927 Collins Street, which is the US Steel Administration building. Building. We'll see. The commission reviewed one local historic property designation nomination, which was the 416 North Chicago Street, Saint Joseph's Roman Catholic Church. There was staff did management and completion of the interpretive signs and installations at Route 66 Park.

There was the completion of the Joliet Railroad Museum in conjunction with the Joliet Area Historical Museum. And then right now, we're currently managing the Joliet Area African American Historic Context Study. We applied for a grant for the oral history project that we got funded. And then next month is preservation National Historic Preservation Month. So in 2024, we we hit it hard.

And I think actually every day we did a a social media post. And then that year, we also did continue to sponsor the annual historic preservation award program. So that would be that is in so that information is all somewhat embedded in this document that the state it's their template. So filled that out. And then I like to add maybe a little bit more context with the staff report, and then a form of that would go to the city council so they can see it a little bit more clearly what the preservation commission's activities are. Does anyone that's my staff report. Does anyone have any questions on the staff report or the annual report?

Okay. Do we need a recommendation to move this? Okay. So we need a recommendation to either move this towards the city council or to approve it to go to city council or or not recommend. I need someone to either recommend or not recommend.

I will recommend that does anybody else wanna recommend? I will recommend that we forward the Joliet Historic Preservation Commission and a report for 2024 to the city council for their approval. Or yeah. Well, does it do they need to approve it or for their review?

Yeah. I mean, essentially, they it's gonna be via resolution, so they need to adopt the resolution.

So So they accept it.

You said the right things. Yeah. Okay. They accept it.

I'll second.

Okay.

Alright. Okay. So we have a motion and a second. Anamowski?

Aye.

Besseler?

Aye.

Heinemann?

Aye.

Johnson? Aye. Lowry? Aye. Merwin? Aye. Stovall? Aye. Okay. That is approved.

Okay. Next is for the annual preservation awards.

Okay. So the Joliet Historic Preservation Commission annually sponsors the Joliet Historic Preservation Award Program. The city of Joliet annually bestows these awards, which recognizes properties that have undergone recent preservation, restoration, and rehabilitation, as well as people or organizations who exhibit dedication to the field of historic preservation. Last year, the city recognized the Joliet Railroad Museum project and Saint Peter Lutheran Church for their historic preservation efforts. We we put out a call usually the March.

Nominations were due Friday, April 11. So I I received two nominations for this year's awards program. I need to update that since '20 I did vet them and felt like they were both good nominations to that staff at least would support and recommend. And before you is 900 North Raynor for the restoration and repair of the front facade after vehicular damage, and I'll pull up some images of that in a second. And then the second nomination is 17 South Center Street, which is the Patrick Haley Mansion for the restoration and repair of the exterior and interior after major fire damage.

And so in conclusion, the Historic Preservation Commission should review the submitted nominations tonight and select one or more awardees. The the Historic Preservation commission may also decide not to bestow any awards this year. Winners will likely be recognized at the 05/06/2025 city council meeting with the proclamation or the other second meeting council meeting in May. That concludes my report. I will I will pull up some images, and I guess I would ask so Sharon nominated 900 North Rayner, and Candice nominated the Patrick Haley Mansion. So

Yeah. We did it from our neighborhood. Yeah.

Yeah. And let me pull up the images. Start with 900. Sharon, do you want to say anything?

I just have a question I'll ask at the end.

Oh, okay. Well, I'll say for those who don't know, then a car ran into this part of the building. So this is a image that was taken in 2022 by our consultant from our designated historic properties update. So and you'll see here, this was Oh my. The damage. So it took out the railing here, and then this was all just it had collapsed. If you can see here the sorry. This I'm not used to this kind of platform. How do you

Oh, on the bottom right, there's a

There you go. This brick was pretty detailed. Yeah. The contractor worked pretty hard to find matching brick called a bunch of reputable brick supply houses. No one makes the style brick anymore. So they were continuing to try try to find a solution to fixing the brick. So here is their restoration effort. And what they did is they took they this was approved administratively. They took brick from the interior wall in here, a three season porch, which Smart. We had to go back and we had to think about for a little bit.

You know? Well, it's can you see into it? The answer is no. And the it has not functioned in a way that people can engage with that front wall. So they took the brick from that, move and then replaced used that brick for here, and then they chose another brick that was comparable for the inside. So I think this is a great case. So there that is what happened with this one. Oh, and these are this was part of your staff report packet, but this shows, again, the detail of the brick and what they ended up I would say it was a pretty good match to be able to Yeah. Do this. Very nice. Do you know if insurance paid for all the restoration work? Yeah. They did? That's awesome. Yeah.

This is at a corner. It's not Moran. Ross. Yep. Ross and Raynard. Like, just south of here is there's more homes, but, you know, it's then you get the whole 6 Corner thing. So and a lot of people use this street to kind of bypass 6 Corners. They come out of either CVS, Dunkin' Donuts. They come off Plainfield Road. This is by far there there's there's too many accidents at this corner. And, you know, when this happened, and again, you saw the pictures, really a concern. But although some people would say, well, they replaced the wall. What's the big deal? To me, it's a big deal because they made it right. And when you see the before and after, you're like, there was an accident?

You know? You you never know. And and I'm sure, you know, it just takes time and effort. And, you know, even if insurance paid for it all, there's still work to be done. So I just thought they did a really nice job on that.

Mhmm.

Okay. I'm going to pull up the other nomination.

Jane, the question I wanted to ask. I did not when I did the nomination, I didn't inform the owners I was doing it.

We don't ever inform the owners.

Okay. Well, I didn't know because it's like, what if we decided not to? Then that would be a little bit awkward.

Yeah. So okay.

Hi. We nominated you, but then we didn't.

I was gonna follow-up tomorrow based on the decision of the commission tonight.

Yeah. That that was my concern. Yeah.

I thought Jesus. This next one is 17 South Center Street. Candice and Sarah, do you wanna mention? Okay. Yeah. I just have nothing to mention. I mean, we took some, obviously, pictures from online from the file itself, and then the other pictures are from their updated website of the current restoration. So that's what we Okay. Tried to do. Obviously, we all walked through. They did such a great job, so we thought it was an easy pick.

Again, it's kinda like something happened there? Yeah.

Okay.

Okay. So we would need a recommendation to either nominate both of them for or accept, I guess, both of them as the nominations. Correct? Should we accept them tonight, or are

we just reviewing them tonight? That you you're designating. I mean, so Okay. Designating? Well, I guess that I don't wanna use that word either.

We're we're accepting their nominations?

Are we awarding? You're awarding. Yeah. Okay.

Thanks, Sarah. Recommending or

or or making a decision to award it.

Okay. So we would need a recommendation to either approve both for an award or one or the other? Or none. Or none. I need someone to make recommendation of either either or option. I have to finish my food.

I will make up I will make a motion to recommend both 900 North Raynor and is it 7 Seem South. 17 South Center for the twenty twenty twenty twenty five annual historic preservation awards.

Okay. I'll second. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Vanamowsky? Aye. Besseler?

Aye.

Heinemann?

Aye.

Johnson? Aye. Lowry? Aye. Merwin? Aye. Stoeble? Aye. K. Alright.

K. And then next would be the National Historic Preservation Month, May events and activities.

Yep. So, again, May is National Historic Preservation Month. We, during that month, try to promote our meaningful historic places, older neighborhoods, and people who have dedicated their time to preserving places that matter. Joliet's older neighborhoods and historic buildings enhance Joliet's authenticity, sense of place, and quality of life. So this is a summary from me about what staff intends to do, and I thought, you know, we can conclude with talking about if there's anything else that would be reasonable, feasible to do also also during this month.

So once again, it's my understanding we'll have approval to do the Places Matter Facebook campaign. I'm hoping to meet with our communications director next week to and it's come May's, like, coming around the corner, but to maybe even do something like, hey. Submit to us your favorite door or place to make it somewhat more interactive too. So that might be something that we would do in in addition. The goal too is to have the annual historic preservation awards program either at the May 6 or May 20 city council meeting, and that would be again via proclamation.

I hope again to do a presentation to the council on historic preservation. Done that last couple years. And then in conjunction with the Joliet Area Historical Museum, they are intending to do what they're calling a stone and steeples architectural history tour. Right now, they have confirmed All Saints Greek Orthodox Church, the University of Saint Francis Motherhouse, and Bishop's Hill Winery. Saint John's Catholic Church is not going to be able to participate because they have first communion that day. And I think, you know, it'd be great if we can include Saint Peter Lutheran. I don't know if there's been any update on

Brian messaged back and said 's definitely something they would be interested in. They even have their gentleman who is, like, their their historian in his opinion who who would be interested as well. So it's just about getting the details to them Okay. So the church board can kind of approve it.

Okay. We could probably get that to them even tomorrow.

Okay.

Yeah. So the goal would be to start at nine leaving the museum. And, you know, we could if they had a time constraint, we could move things around from my understanding. And then I know the end stop is Bishop's Hills. That way people can have a glass of wine. That would be noon. But, otherwise, you know, they could go first. They could go second or third. Alright. I saw it. I'll reach out to Greg. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Cool. What? Nothing. Okay. Any anything else that could be reasonably done this month? Or

Have we has anybody ever seen if we could go to First Press or no? They've usually been quite supportive. I mean, I know it's really late in the game, but maybe that's later on or next year or something.

I can mention that to Greg. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I I mean, again, it's late in the game, but they Yeah. They they would, you know, they would let us, like, have seminars there, you know, little small seminars. So I was just kinda curious.

Yeah. Saint Joe's also asked to be included.

Oh, okay.

So I don't know if they have their counsel back in in position yet. But Mary was very interested in doing any tours or or things that we had.

Yep. Love to tour. Okay. I know the one thought I had, Greg and I, and I talked about this is the the original way we were going about this tour and to tight knit around a theme was to focus on the Saint John's neighborhood because we're gonna also promote the fact that this commission oversaw the Saint John's historic resource survey. So that was the original organizing theme.

But we can consider if there's an opportunity for the other two or or one of them. So and if not, my thought too is maybe we could still help promote a tour of Saint Joe's. Yeah? K. Mhmm. Yeah. I did and, also, I I did reach out to Christ Temple Apostolic Faith Church about opening up their church, and they were supportive of it. But then they realized the date conflicted with an event that they've already had scheduled. So so if we can plan more ahead next year, then that might be a a really cool opportunity to bring people through. And, it's a designated historic property.

Mhmm.

Yeah. Okay.

Can I be an old lady?

Yeah.

I think the first time we did historic church tours was in 1995, thirty years ago. Uh-huh. And we it was it was still Richard Street United Methodist. It's some of the same places. And to me, the best part is they're still here, they still look great. I'm like, yes, thirty years later.

Yeah. I did have one other program that's happening, and I was gonna touch on this in my staff report, but I'll just I'll do it now. So the ongoing Joliet area African American historic context study is having a series of events, which we haven't pushed out yet, but we're gonna hopefully start doing that maybe even as early tomorrow. Let me just pull this up. So it's a community interview event.

Oh, hi. It'll take place three Saturdays this summer. So the first one would be during National Historic Preservation Month, May 17. It'll take place from ten to four at the Bicentennial Park and inside the lobby. And the goal is to promote people walking in or or treat trying to preschedule people to come and to talk about their recollections of place, people, or events in the Joliet area that are important to understanding the region's black history.

So that's another program that would be happening that month. Nice. Okay. Is there anything going on with the museum besides this tour that would be historic preservation related? Okay. Mhmm. Can I ask a question, though, for this? We reaching out to, like, our local black churches and stuff like that to get this information to them? Yeah. Okay. That's the goal. So we're we're really leaning on the steering committee to do a lot of that outreach work. Okay. One woman in particular who you I think many of you know, Julia Alexander, has been very

Oh, I love

her. Vocal in in in helping to make those connections. Good. Great. I I would also when again, I the steering committee hasn't even has they don't even have the final copy of this yet, but I would send it to she has a previous version that she had posted, but that's fine. I would ask, you know, this commission too would also you know, if you know, yeah, groups that yeah. Please share this information.

Has any I don't know. Is Julie Alexander, is she part of National Hook of Black Women? Because they, yeah, they get things done.

She's including you. Is she? She does the including you. So she's on the National Hook of Black Women. Oh, okay. She's a member. Yeah. But she's all around everywhere. She does everything. Yep.

Okay. That's all I have for National Historic Preservation. Okay. Does anyone have any other things they wanna talk about related to that?

Well, I do.

Yeah. Just trying Sure.

It it was either gonna be, you know, commissioner comments or this, but it's preservation related. The National Trust, their their is it quarterly magazine? It's called preservation. And I'm just paging through it. And, you know, they, you know, like, saved things, restored things. And, yes, there was an inclusion of the admin building at the Steele property, you know, it being lost. And mister Edomowski had a quote there. So kinda sad to see it included because of that reason, but good that, you know, I I think this was a big deal.

Mhmm.

This was a big deal. So, anyway, I I was gonna bring the thing. I'll I'll try and take a picture of it and send it to you, Jane, if you wanna send it out. You know? Again, this is like the National Trust. So it's all over. This isn't just like Illinois. This is everybody. So, you know, we we made the big time. Yeah.

What has happened to the stones? Are you telling me getting tested for contamination or something? So as far as I'm made aware by our building director and our community development director that the city has not gotten involved with the stone. So Oh. The contractor is just doing Whatever. Yeah. Okay. Yep. I have heard that they may be setting some aside for local use, but I haven't been able to confirm that.

Does anybody else have anything

for the project? I think the Joliet diocese renamed Saint Patrick's Church?

To what? Oh, they didn't merge the

parish?

Yeah. It's Sharon knows. You can

have it. It's when they did all their merging. Saint Jude and St. And if somebody knows different, and I got this wrong, please interrupt. St. Jude and St. Paul's are at the St. Paul campus. Sacred Heart and St. Pat's are at the St. Pat's campus. Actually, it should be Main Campus and East Campus. Yeah. The whole four churches is queen of apostles. Yeah. So yeah.

Queen of the apostles in

our church?

That's it. The way it was explained at church is the church can maintain the name, but the parish, like, people and the organization is queen of apostles. I know. But, like, you know, when you look, they say Main Campus or East Campus. I I don't know. Yep.

I was just wondering if I had to rename the neighborhood.

Oh, there you go. But you you know that not. Yeah. No. I don't think there were of the other mergers that were supposed to take place, I don't the whole Saint Joe's, I'm supposed to be Saint Mary Magdalene. It was Saint Anthony, and I can't remember who else. But I know Saint Anthony was a very small church. Mhmm. Yeah. And and the Saint Jude property is sold. The Victory Church sold it or or bought it, so it's another yeah. Yep. Okay. Okay. We've had we've had no no demolition request for any church.

Right? No. Okay. Well, I wouldn't necessarily see that either, but not that I'm aware of. Yeah. No. Okay.

Next would be staff reports.

I I don't have anything else to add at this time.

Okay.

I don't. No. Wow.

Yeah. Next would be commissioner comments.

I'm kinda

doing. I've

said enough to.

Anyone else? Alright. Do we have any updates on the long run building with the city's plan currently to redevelop it or the Saint Mary's, how are they doing? Okay.

Good question. Saint Mary's, I'll tackle that one first. My understanding is that they're still moving forward. The Joe Matisse, he owns the building. They had some delays working with IDOT, but my understanding is they're back moving ahead with that project. What's the intent for the building? That building is slated to be an event space, performance venue even. Yep. They will be putting up a a side a whole side building, to in order to house an elevator shaft. Mhmm.

So that'll be on the south side of the building. Mhmm. And then for the Loughran Building, I don't believe the RFP submittal process has closed. I believe it was extended. Mhmm. It was. I don't Quinn, do you do you know? I know you follow that. I know it was extended once. Yeah. I don't know that it's been extended beyond that. Yeah. We also the city has an RFP out for the former restaurant space at Union historic Union Station as well. Saw that. Yeah.

Migraine. Right? Yep. Yeah.

Okay. And then I did have I don't know if this is something anybody could be interested in here, but there's a gentleman who works out of the Chicagoland area who does a lot of historical stuff including making doors from scratch. His name

is

Hollis Childress, whatever. I don't know. He's looking for partners for a series of historic preservation historic restoration projects and documentary productions in major cities across The United States. Obviously, we're smaller than Chicago, but we are the third largest city and we have a pretty decent historic type stuff here. So they're looking for he's looking for architects, fundraisers, marketing professionals, trade professionals, TV producers, interior designers, skilled storytellers, and video documentarians.

I can't say all that. So they're the point of the document the doc I can't talk right now. I'm sorry. Documentary is to bring attention to the resources, technology, and hardworking artisans, as well as the help to maintain historical architectural communities. So he is on Facebook. He did post it on Facebook. He has an an address which is h_childress@yahoo.com. If anybody is interested in reaching out to see if there's any way that that I don't know. Any input is good input, especially when a lot of the resources for historical preservation is kind of declining. So You said Hollis? Yeah. H O L L I C E, and then last name is c h I l d r e s s.

Oh, wait. Sorry. I tripped up on the first one. H o l l

I c e. Then Canvas.

What's the last name again? Oh.

C h I l d r e s s.

Okay. Yeah. He's on LinkedIn. LinkedIn. Okay.

He's on Facebook too. He posts, like he does all of these he literally builds doors from scratch to mimic the originals. He started reforming plaster to help people who needed redoing plaster. He's done everything very hands on. So and he's in the Chicagoland area, which I thought was pretty neat because it's really difficult sometimes. People obviously complain a lot about not having people available to help them. So Yes, miss Sharon?

And, again, back in the day, one of our early commissioners, I can't remember his first name, but it was at Childress, and he owned the there was a funeral home kind of on North. I can't what what's the name of the street that Priscilla's on? Whatever. Like, Northeastern like, North of Cass. Okay. And that funeral home, I wanna say there was a fire there a not a long time ago. But I I'm just curious if this gentleman is

I don't yeah.

Don't know. Because like I said, the mister Childress, we knew was he was a commissioner for a short time. So Oh. Just kinda curious. Or, you know, if he's related in any way.

Can we look up

old commissioner to see if they want he was.

Why do I wanna say his name was Elvin, but

I can't remember. I I can I can find out and let you know? Yeah. K.

Is there anybody else? No? Okay. So next would be public comments, which there are none, and then motion to adjourn.

I'm sorry. We don't we don't know what commission or what city council meeting are things will be at

first or third. So what Good question. So agenda the full council memos from staff are due tomorrow by noon.

Mhmm.

So my goal is to get to work and to input and everything. I think I already have most of the titles already in. So they're due tomorrow, and it's up to then it goes through our approval process. So I would know by mid next week if they're gonna be going on

the agenda. For, like, May, whatever date it is?

The fifth and sixth or the fifteenth and twentieth.

Okay. The goal will be, again, to shoot for the earlier date only because these are all nice celebratory things. So that's the first meeting of the new council. They might want that on their agenda. But, you know, it's it's really up to the city manager and how she ends up moving things around.

What when do they swear on the is is that the first is that the fifth or sixth for

I believe they do it and do that right before pre council or or maybe even it's part of pre council.

That was a part

of council. Maybe meeting on this the other meeting. Yeah. Something like that.

Any other questions? We have a motion to adjourn.

Motion to adjourn.

Second. Motion by Bessler. Second by Lowry. All those in favor of adjournment? Aye. Any opposed? K.