Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

as the chairperson for tonight's meeting March 3rd 2025 I'll second that anybody oppos anybody in favor favor Mo curious congratulations uh then I will call this meeting of the cityland Planning Commission to order it is 534 on March 3rd 20125 um first first item on the agenda is a an extension um for the site plan approval from May 22nd 2023 for 37 to39 for Watson Street is anyone here to speak on that that would be me uh so this has been outstanding for quite some time Mr Gallow just out of the blue called me a couple weeks ago and said he'd like to put this back on the agenda whatever if you do vote for an extension it would be retro to win when the last one expired and I would I would say that this should probably be the last exception if you do choose to give it to him he's going to come back to a full review and also have that contingent on that anything any any your approvals of the plans that were significantly approved before they can't make any changes that's that's when I discussed this with the county that's what they said to make sure you guys put that as because it has been so long with a lot of BR year 3 and this was this project

connected with the drri downtown at one time I think it was and he had money but he was having trouble finding the contractor that met the requirements of of the Grant and I I don't so he seems so when I talked to him I said you know this is this is gonna be it that's that's what I told him they'll they'll probably Grant you a a retroactive you know it at be a year from tonight and plus whatever the the retroactive is and that'll be it and then you'll have to come back to uh a full review and again please put a stipulation in there that he is whatever approval is given tonight for that extension it has to be of the of the original plans that were approved at the last meeting no changes can be made okay um any discussion about that the can I hear a motion um to uh approve an extension um retroactive to when the last extension expired and for one year from today um with a stipulation that there be no changes um to the approved site plan without of a full review another full review also that this will be the the last will be the last uh extension U before another full review is required extension just one year yeah and this this this extension is and it'll be retroactive back to

52224 so isn't it just extended one year from tonight it is extended but we have it's already expired I'll second so you you you you you did a year extension on the 23 or whatever um oh uh so all those in favor I I any opposed any further discussion on that actually yeah I I I stand correct so that 20 that 52223 that May 22nd that was the original so it would have been six months after that he would have needed an extension that he never applied for so yeah retro we're going back after 18 months yeah yeah okay you guys could do that it just just well I talked to the county and that's what they recommend um all right um item number two um 79 pomoy Street uh zoning map change anyone here to speak on that got a couple folks myself Don Armstrong and Greg Long here too um get you on the camera there you go perfect well if you've looked at the papers I mean the application is uh for zone change this came up the business has been there Sky Skyline has been there

for one paper years is that right since 68 and uh so he was looking to sell of course pursuing the sale it was discovered that the zoning boundary runs through the property so a good portion of the back is residential the front is G2 I believe so um went to the zba once they got the recommendation for the Zone shames then it was referred I believe right the next St that was referred to County Planning they came back with an affirmative recommendation and we went back to the zba last Monday they approved uh the zone change uh from their perspective that this would be regarded as a variance approval so um you're part of the process of course the site plan and the hope is that um you approve uh the application and I guess the next step and Andy and I were talking about earlier today it requires comic Council approval I believe and I'm not quite sure if it would take a local law or just by resolution so that's something we're looking at but this is you know part of that the process going forward um you know it's but it's not going to an approval will not change anything in terms of the operation of the property it's all been operated as a business those 50 plus years so I just want to add like like like I said it could have been one of one of the three R2 gb2 or or general industrial right and gb2 is kind of that mid-range it has more uses but it's not

as as open as as GI and not as restrictive as an R2 so it's just it's Common Sense basically um so for this we'll need to um vote to um I guess encourage or make a res resolution to recommend to council that this yes be changed and then we'll need to go over uh part two of the C curve um so can I have motion uh to approve the um zone change to gv2 for this property um which you the recommendation correct yes and a recommendation to the Comm Council I'll second second all those in favor of that I any opposed okay so we will move on to the uh part two of the be here do we have to do the long form of the Seer because it's a law change because it's why it's a law change oh I'll get my fast reading yeah do my best okay um um question One impact on land the proposed action may involve construction on or physical alteration of land

surface for the proposed site that is a no as far as I see it yeah it stands right now so we s impact on geological features the proposed action may result in modification or destruction of or inhibit access to any unique or unusual landforms on the site that is a no to my mind discuss it's a no impact on surface water post action may affect one or more Wetlands or other surface water bodies that is a not as far as that know effecta on groundwater Pro proposed action may result in New Or additional use of groundwater or may have the potential to introduce contaminants to groundwater or an aqua no no impact on flooding question five the proposed action may result in development on on lands subject to flooding no question six tacts on air the proposed action may include State regulated air emission Source no question seven impact on plants and animals the proposed action may result in a loss of Flora or fauna no question eight impact on agricultural resources the proposed action may impact agricultural resources I would say no on that as well question n impact on aesthetic resources uh the land use of the proposed action are obviously different from or in sharp contrast to current

land use patterns between the proposed project as Scenic or aesthetic resource uh no question 10 impact on historic and archaeological resources prop action may occur in or adjacent to histor or archaeological resources question 11 impact on open space and Recreation proposed action may result in a loss of recreational opportunities or reduction of an open space Resource as designated in any adopted Municipal open space plan no not that I know of question 12 impact on critical environmental areas proposed action made located within or adjacent to a critical environmental area CA no I know question 13 impact on Transportation the proposed action may result in a change to existing Transportation Systems no not that I know we know anyone question 14 impact on energy the proposed action may cause increase in the use of any form of energy no impact on no noise odor and light the proposed action may result in an increase in noise odor or outdoor lighting depending on what they're changing they're only changing yeah [Music] question 16 impact on human health proposed action may have an impact on human health exposure to existing

sources of contaminants no no question 17 consistency with Community plans R action is not consistent with adopted land use plans no nope make it all consistent uh question 18 consist with Community character's project is inconsistent with the existing Community character um so that was part two Andy do we need to do anything with part three um well we answered no to 18 says ifce three we're good oh so this is the determination of significance yes um I think the information is sufficient for the lead agency being us City to conclude that proposed action will not have a significant adverse environmental impact uh so we will include that certification uh right so um a or be there I didn't follow which uh that will be a this project will have no significant adverse impact on the environment and therefore environmental impact statement need not be prepared accordingly this negative declaration is

issued could you put that formable motion uh yes I can uh do I hear a motion that yeah I'll make the negative declaration motion okay and a second a second thanks all those in favor any opposed negativ declar negatively declar up and get official signatures yeah so uhy procedurally be looking at the County Council approving this or considering it so County Council have the Seeker they'll have all the documents all all sporting documents over the course of this whole fair and then they'll make the determination whether or not about the law change we don't need to sign anything tonight I would so I would prefer if you sign that document right there and that's not gonna that that's not that's just going to be showed that you guys did the original I'm going to type it up so it looks real nice for for the records and then I can probably sign that as board secretary and clerk yeah sure hey Andy you want come take a look at this real quick I think it's do you sign yeah that's what I was try to figure I guess you're respons resp officer LEC and the lead agency is Planning Commission that that asks yeah

so the name of the action name of the Le agency those two out I get you the temporary share experience I'm the only one [Music] experi we save the middle th is name of action so the name of the action NE you something Mr Armstrong to sign Andy e

that should be the that is as it should be so welcome to that down so uh we motion to e

all right moving on to agenda uh number item number three uh 110 Street plan RW for underground tank replacement yes County Planning and Zoning it's a pretty standard tank Place have the tanks make the whole system newer and safer all right um any questions no I think yeah go through the so you're replacing the existing tank and the new tank will be above ground no below ground in the same yeah it's just the one tank there's um three three going in correct are you g do it stages all three out at the same time so E's here because the canop is going to undergo some changes they're taking out the the fire protection equipment which is no longer required putting in new pumps I imagine the new pumps are going to have different logos on them also they got to put a enclosure on the exist in dumpsters which is also in your privy I see the dumpsters are to the toward the rear of the property on the train track side

yeah right so there's a couple variances involved with this one as well right there's C so he was granted they were granted the lot coverage and they were granted the front uh the setbacks because the canopy doesn't meet the right minimum setback they were not granted the the pole sign they're gonna make the sign compliance yeah with so a year and a they gave him a year but point was made that that year I'll put him right right in De set of winners so you really can't dig the ground and stuff like that so a year and a couple months I think is reasonable if you guys want to mirror whatever they said or you don't have to make a date that's guarantee some warm weather to make sure they make it or just yeah make a date I mean I think April or May is reasonable they can start because that that sign has to go or they got to bring it into compliance by making it a uh not a poll sign but a ground sign so do we wrap that all into everything or do we do that wrap it all into everything and then you got to do the Seeker for this one as well do the approval you said the fire suppression is no longer needed no really so so near York State found out that the actual fire suppress systems in these gas stations were going off more accidentally than they were being going off on purpose and because and they Alo weird just explain this to you real quick weird things like the actual H the hold openers for the gas tanks that they took away back in the 80s because well now they're back

again because they were finding people were shoving things in there which which was actually worse than the actual hold openers that so any pump has to comply with a certain an standard if the pump complies with with a b and c of that an an standard then it's no longer no longer needs the the an system maintenance yeah if there's no further discussion uh can I hear a motion to uh appr the site plan as submitted uh with the stipulation that the uh sign be brought into compliance within 15 months extra time um following following the other requirements of County planning and I make a motion I'll second all those in favor any oppos so the motion is approve just like with same condition yeah same conditions County said same conditions that the zba did but they're going to add a month or two to that sign months for sign TOS um so that motion passes and so we will

uh do the part two of the um Seeker um and I will read out those questions again um I would only I would just caution you to read into those a little bit more for this project because there there there is Haz materials involved um yeah I think this is a that straightforward and there is a table on site that is very near where they're digging so this could have this this could affect water too so yeah I think this goes I think they're taking the proper precautions um I just want to make sure when you do the secet you understand the full scope of the job yeah thank you um there at least is a testing plan in place yeah also counties coil and water will be doing on-site inspections for for the city because they are pumping the excess groundwater into the storm water system okay um that that process was already approved by the dec okay which I have not got a document of approval from DEC for that project so I'm gonna need that document please um s see so they did the core samples and everything that that they're supposed to do and these are not you said they're not the old steel tanks they're tanks are PR GL fi one are the old tanks uh the old tanks I think those are L too at this location so the they're fiberglass so they're not as apt to as deterioration

as the old steel tanks used to be however they're their industry empty which means there's still some residual gasoline in there so in the process of moving them out they could tear or break causing some spillage into the soil and assuming you have a cleanup plan if that happens yes kind over and puts all the Y but just while you're doing the secret please please keep that in mind because there are some potential negative impacts here absolutely all right um question number one impact on land the proposed action may involve construction on physical operation of the land surface of the proposed site yes yes uh one a the proposed action may involve construction on land where depth of water table is less than three feet that's 13 was it 13t at least what I read through so it's I mean it's it's a lot closer than what you would think there but yeah so it's not yeah again I don't know what the depth is maybe there right how that's a good point the tanks are and then they're going three feet below that yeah so they could be that's good point you know the answer to that I'm sorry 15 how much 15 ft just the bottom of the tank excavation okay so we're going to say moderate to large impact may occur with that sure yes this just m the proposed action may involve construction on

slopes of 15% or greater no proposed action may involve construction on land where Bedrock is exposed or generally within 5 feet of existing ground surface believe that is no also uh the proposed action may involve the excavation or removal of more than 1,000 tons of natural material that's the proposed action may involve construction that continues for more than one year or in multiple phases that's an no proposed action may result in increased erosion other physical disturbance or vegetation removal including treatment by herbicides no no proposed action is or may be located within a coastal erosion Hazard Zone any other impacts okay question two impact on geological features the proposed action may result in the modification or destruction of or inhibit access to any unique or unusual land forms on this site for example Cliffs Tunes minerals fossil caves nope no okay uh question three impacts on surface water poos action may affect one or more Wetlands or other surface water bodies G streams Rivers ponds or lakes no question four impact on groundwater Pro action may result in New Or additional use of groundwater or may

have the potential potential to introduce contaminants to groundwater or an aquifer that is possibility to to the TS yeah so uh to go through the points of question four question 4 a proposed action may require new water supply Wells for create additional Demand on water supply or on supplies from existing water supply Wells that I believe is a no water supply demand from the proposed action May exceed safe and sustainable withdrawal capacity no uh rate of the local Supply or aquer no the proposed action may allow or result in residential uses in areas without water and sewer services proposed action may include or require Wastewater discharge to groundwater that's a that is a possibility I don't I mean it sounds yeah I mean it's they're putting it in the storms which goes right to the river so so moderate for that yes so they are monitoring any potential C I mean I'm assuming the water I'll get all the groundwater will get pumped into a p first the big hun before it gets released I mean there's just poent potential something could go wrong I guess that's all nothing guys don't do everything do this um for E the proposed action may result in the construction of large Supply Wells and locations where groundwater is or is suspected to be contaminated no

Chris on D you said moderate okay thank you to large impact may occur uh e is no what that e e is yes for e is a no forf the proposed action may require the bulk storage of petroleum chemical products over groundwater or an aquifer um that is yes moderate to large impact for G the proposed action may involve the commercial application of pesticide within 100 fation sources any other impacts to discuss okay moving on to question five impa impact on flooding the action I'm sorry the proposed action may result in development on land subject to flooding no no question six impact on air the proposed action may include State regulated air emission Source [Music] um a monitoring good enough monor we're pulling the tanks T VCS yes so they are air monitoring okay so this could have a have an impact for that two-day period right yes okay so impact on air is yes question six so question 6A if the proposed action PRI as federal or state air emission permits the action may also

emit one or more greenhouse gases ER above the following levels um will there be a permit is there a federal permit oh okay so I think have to go through M uh yeah supposed we do um so 6 A1 more than 1,000 tons per year of carbon dioxide no or small impact more than 3 and2 tons per year of nitrous oxide no or small impact more than 1,000 tons per year of carbon equivalent per FL fluo carbons no or small impact more than 0 five 05 045 tons per year of sulfur hexafluoride no small effect more than 1,000 tons per year of carbon dioxide equivalent hydral hydrochlorofluorocarbons emissions no we small impact and 43 tons per year or more of methane no no small impact uh 6B now the proposed action May generate 10 tons per year or more of any one of the designated hazard ardous air pollutes or 25 pounds per year or any more any combination of such hazardous air pollut no I think no right the proposed action may require

a state air registration or may produce an emission rate total of contaminants that exceed five pounds per hour or may include a heat Source capable of producing more than 10 million atus per hour um possibility fire that sorry is there that permitting is that state a registration State registration yes okay so that will be a moderate or l or question uh 6D now the proposed action 50% of any of the th thresholds in a through C above um I don't think so buts on that yeah I don't know May if you answered yes to see we answered yes to see because it requires the state air registration oh as opposed to as opposed TOS got it but that's mostly because what's the impact of no versus yes if nothing happens we're still covered well they've been they're the reason why you're going through this checklist and I'm not an attorney nor did I sleep at a Holiday Express last night I guess Don um uh the reason why you're doing through this is is it any any yes questions you come to and I've been doing that with him if you haven't so any yes I'm I'm thinking what

possibly you know what how can we fix this problem right in this case it's air monitoring to make sure it doesn't reach a climbable dangerous right uh so we've we've already you know based on question 6C we've already said that this could have an effect on emissions so I don't think saying no will affect so I mean just for instance like you brought up Hydro fluorocarbons a couple times yeah gasoline is a hydrocarb yes but I don't think it's going to exceed that level of brli say yeah uh so 6D is no um 6 e now the proposed action may result in the combustion or thermal treatment more than one ton of Refuge or Al probably unlikely that there's one ton of no first of all it's a liquid I mean it's it's it's it's a vapor so it's not by definition Refuge this is that was probably more like for that's true uh okay and any other impacts that the board wants to discuss impact on plants and animals question seven proposed action may result in loss of Flora or fauna um I'm thinking that's um question eight the impact on agricultural resources the proposed action may impact agricultural resources no section nine impact on aesthetic resources the land use of the proposed

action are obviously different from contrast to curent patterns between the proposed project and a semic or athetic resource question 10 impact on historic and archaeological resources the proposed action may occur in or adjacent to a historic or archaeological resource no uh don't know is Crescent uh historical building not across one you know Andy creson get it um I don't know that designation or not but it's uh the tracks are in between there trying to make sure every eyes dotted and te across that's all more concerned change yeah I guess absolutely you guys aren't concerned I'm not I just wanted to throw that out uh question 11 impact on open space and Recreation proposed action may result in a loss of recreation opportunities or reduction of an open space resource is designated in any adopted Municipal open space plan that is a impact on critical environmental areas the proposed action may be located within our adjacent to a critical environmental area believe that is a no question 13 impact on Transportation the proposed action may result and a change to existing Transportation

Systems any are PID to any new areas be paved over it's all paved now it's all ped now they're not adding to it [Music] okay so question 13 check no question 14 impact on energy the proposed action may cause an increase in the use of any form of energy yeah that I believe is a no question 15 impacts on noise odor and light poos action may result in an increase in noise odor or outdoor lighting it is a construction site there's a apartment building next door so I would say yes to noise and odor potentially yep uh the proposed action May produce uh sound above noise levels established by local regulation yes moderate to large impact may occur I'm sorry uh we're on question 15 now okay um U 15b the proposed action may result in blasting within 1500 feet of any residence Hospital School licensed daycare center or nursing home um I don't think any blasting would be taking place that a you know he not shouldn't be any blasting taking place at a EG site it's a no on a sorry was yes a was yes and 15 C the proposed action may result in routine odors for more than one hour per day um that's yes I think

too 15D the proposed action May results in light shining into adjoining properties that is yes so during construction it will but I think they can be working night so they have a certain window by ordinance they can work in okay 7 to 5 I think so s to five I don't think you're gonna have an issue with that just they can't work okay I don't think it'll be any more than the gas station already right uh question 15E the proposed action may result in lighting creating Sky blow brighter than existing area conditions believe that would be a no also against that uh question 16 impact on human health proposed action may have an impact on human health from exposure to new or existing sources of contaminants uh there's a potential there yes there's a potential gasoline Vapors are carcinogen so it's not um immediate but it is chronic right um so we will go through sub questions on 16 16a the proposed action is located within 1500 feet of school Hospital licensed daycare center group home nursing home or retirement community uh I don't believe that is true site of proposed action is currently undergoing remediation is there any remediation on the site currently there is not there's completed emergency spill remediation or completed environmental site remediation on or adjacent

to no the site of the proposed action remediation been done previously notare uh the site of the action is subject to an Institutional control limiting the use of the property easement or deed restriction know it is right next to the railroad right away it's not actually on it the proposed action may affect institutional control measures that were put in place to ensure the site remains protective the environment and human health weing safeties that are place right um okay 16f the proposed action has adequate control measures in place to ensure that future generation treatment Andor disposal of hazardous waste will be protective of the environment human health that is it has it in place that's what it says so I think safety plan well the very fact that they're putting in tanks new tanks is so that's a no impact small impact y propos action includ involves construction or modification of a Solid Waste Management Facility that's no no impact the proposed action may result in unearthing of solid or hazardous waste that is yes proposed action may result in an increase in the rate of disposal or processing of solid waste no the proposed action may result in excavation or other disturbance within 2,000 ft of a site used for the disposal of solid or

hazardous waste that's yes proposed action may result in the migration of explosive gases from a landfill site to adjacent offsite structures that is a The Proposal the proposed action may result in a release of contaminated contaminated leate from the project site yes aliche is that's a term used for just a landfill water isn't it isn't I'm thinking I've never heard it used any other way contaminant I think that run off yes I get it that's the only one we get Ryan this test [Laughter] right so just um under that section once that were answered moderate any others discussed action is not consistent with adopted land used plans oh consist consistency with Community character the proposed project is inconsistent with the existing Community character completed part two part three

so b or c b or c b States um although this project could have significant adverse impact on the environment that impact will be avoided or substantially mitigated because of the following conditions will be required by the lead agency uh those conditions are the same as required by State DEC by county and other agencies um or we could go with option C this project may result in one or more significant adverse impacts on the environment and an environmental impact statement must be prepared to further assess the impact possible mitigation and for alternatives to avoid reduce those impacts accordingly this positive declaration is issued I I think it's the second [Music] one I mean you can make these guys do a environmental impact study I don't think it's their job's that big I mean I I think they basically said they're doing ABC D d& yeah and there impr the regul do that work correctly there is an enviral track and they actually have to do it by State they have to replace those tanks andir track is on site for any kind of digging on the project time and then they do send all of the excavator anything that comes out of the ground okay great accept the water that goes into the to so we're choosing what so we're choosing B and

on site environmental you mentioned uh counties so and water will be on S testing the they're part of the agency that's going to test the water before it gets pumped in into the storm drains make sure that Situation's all all fixed the the the tankies talking about gasoline floats so it'll probably it'll go into the tank the gas will float and then it'll come out the bottom the water will come out the bottom so it'll keep the residual any residual gasoline that may be in the water at the top will it will never meet that bottom pipe it's called a underflow I think it's called an underflow sounds like an oil set right is the same concept uh so I've written environmental engineer and testing done on site by enviral tract as well as cor County so water new York State DEC regulations

and e okay so we need to uh is there a motion to declare option [Music] part two of this seeker and the second second all those in favor of declaring option b I'll read it for the record although this project could have significant adverse effect adverse impact on the environment this impact will be avoided or substantially mitigated the following conditions which will be required by the lead agency environmental engineer and testing slate track as well as County Water State e regulations testing that's option b all those in favor sorry there will be therefore no significant adverse impacts from the project as conditioned and therefore this condition negative declaration is

issued addition negative declaration may be used only for unlisted actions um so a second for that option okay so all those in favor of declaring option b negative declaration any oppose okay the motion passes thank you you sign anything sign all right agenda it number four that yeah we we approved the site plan but we I don't know if we officially made a motion for that Sear uh yeah and theny approve the site so that's just for your signature I think that's going to stay with Andy as our official record and then you'll get copies since it's I have no idea what I'm talking there's a pen if you

need it is a negative [Music] declaration op this month nice anything do land it's like a land you don't want to step on where where are you from na okay all over the country mostly New York that's the thing okay you meant Naples Florida okay I was gonna say yeah hopefully you're [Music] next hour char [Music]

there's lot I'm s a lot last time we met car me there he seemed he was the head of do we have sign the uh SEC uh he can he he's a representative of the of the group doing the work okay on your agenda name I don't of PA a step not be one of my guys I do need that count yeah correct what's next on the

agenda 44 record can we flip that around so Mr Armstrong can since 44 record not here he's representing 43 Union I see so uh we'll uh move agenda item number seven to the next item on the agenda thank right thank you and this is um a site plan review for 43 right 43 unions in a B2 it's residential property um it's gone through a couple stages already as well as similar to the last one on there was an interpretation rendered by the zba that allows it to be used as a for unit then as a result of that a variance application bulk variance application had to be made with CBA because uh there's no room for the 10 foot buer Zone yeah so it's an R4 so I mean it's being used as multi res multi residence need a 10- foot buer between single and two families and there's if you go around the outside of that property there's three or four one or two families there yeah and then also because it is a residential Zone you need a 4 foot vegetative strip and part of the driveway is on the neighbor's property yeah they did not get a variance for the unpaved driveway they're going to have that paved in a year just like we've been doing with everybody else so then I think what the site plan is triggered because of the change in the parking yeah so there's going to be increased traffic because I added a an apartment

unit so what happened with that was real briefly and I can he he kind of explained it so there's a portion in the in in the zoning law that allows for expanding a non-conform use which was in existence prior to the law this is so this was a multiple residence like as far back if look at the paperwork there was way before this was being used as M as a multiple residence already so three units four units is still a multiple residence as long as you don't expand the footprint of the building and that was the interpretation that uh that was my initial interpretation so I presented it to the the zba that way because then it's their privy they also made a positive declaration or whatever you want to call my interpretation because of that then they went forward with the processes which is had to get a couple a variances and now it has to get in front of you guys because it's technically going to increase parking which they've got a huge parking lot there on and it'll be even nicer once it's paid with some drywalls like your predecessor in the Z off before he was one that just no no it was it was a Mis interpretation by the owner who sense fixed it okay so that's that dwell on it let's the fact of the matter is is we need housing in the city very badly and when you can fix an issue like this quite simple by interpreting the law that's the best way to do it right and in another six months it's going to be a lav will use anyway or probably more than six months but honestly I would have done a zone change because 90% of the houses in that area are multiple residences if it wasn't for the fact

that we're going to have a new compound and new zoning law within a year or so I'd have done his own change okay thank you thank you uh any questions for Mr questions for R all right um uh is there a motion to approve the site plan as presented to expand the parking um and um follow follow the zva and say that dri will do also the parking has to be the new parking plan yeah has has to be designed to 38 384 85 I think it's just 384 is it it just has to 382 to 385 so I think with the code yeah yeah the new parking plan I'm gonna just start that motion over sure parking that's that's got to be compliant with a current ordinances yeah okay so uh is there a motion that accept the site plan following zonings recommendation and have the parking lot brought into compliance parking meet city code compliance with like 15 months in the same way you did the last one within the next 15 okay why are we giving them 15 months because it's the same concept you can't PVE a driveway in the middle of winter all summer oh yeah they can do it all summer yeah so give it give them that but the whole point of this is because yeah I get what you're saying

sure they got out summer to do it but at least we're giving some relief all right okay the motion I poly constructed the motion got okay so any further discussion all right all those in favor any opposed motion passes thank you thank you thanks for your time sorry for the slow oh h slow reading of seekers yeah it's not written in English is it all right you something work with that's what I'm ask five a Corporation Council write to because it has to get filed I think

it might be just a map change I don't figure out may just be a mange still change all right I we okay um now we go back to agenda item number four site plan review from 40 40 to 44 rickord street that would be I'm speaking for that one um just keep an eye on so the zv so these guys have three dumpsters that aren't screened and so fencing around anything is your guys' privy so the dumpsters have to be have to be screened with fences on at least three sides and the zba said they had to move one of them back from the street if it doesn't meet that four foot set back okay and we're putting in a higher fence than what's allowed just in screen six foot yes yeah so that that was part of the area varas they had to get because they're all in the front yard right so they have to be because that like you guys done in other places just so somebody backing on their driveway has to be four foot off that walk so you so somebody can see them coming across that walk so I don't believe the one dumpster on the rioch street side is four feet off that walk but they got to move it back a little bit I thought actually the height of the fence for that same reason yeah it is that's why but if it's if it's higher than that you got to move it you gotta have you got to move it back so that you still have that four foot

view once you it's it's the they call it a a site triangle they have to be screen because they having a lot they have to be screen from the public way because they're they're a mess right now I just don't we give Bunches of complaints from the people that that live in the neighborhood because they're just overloaded and bulk items and everything if D through there so hopefully this will also deter the amount of illegal pumping that's going on over there as well all right um does anybody have a motion to that effect soes anybody have a second uh cbaa recommends uh all those in favor I I any oppos pass which he'll sign sign those and um I didn't see minutes no I um they got I lost I don't know what happened I minutes here real timey to meeting while it's fresh I gotta watch the video I got watch also his assistant clerk was there that night taking him if you remember right because none of you guys that was CBA I wasna say that was did an

excellent job on those um we'll look for for another I I would get okay um that case I think is there a motion to adour with the motion out there IMM