City Council - Regular Meeting

Ready? Okay. Mayor, I'd like to call to order the regular meeting of the Elwood Park Mayor and Council for July 17th, 2025 to order at 7:02 p.m. On roll call, we have council members Fisolo here. Colbec here. Samson present. Sheridan here. Tracy here. Council President Peller Green here. Mayor Kleti here. We have a quorum. Thank you, Chen. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. How is everybody doing out there? That's it. Good. Can you imagine having this meeting without air conditioning? No.

What did they do 100 years ago? They had to have the meetings.

Thank God for modern technology, right? Okay, we have a very interesting evening. Uh we will be promoting two officers tonight. It's always a great thing. Uh but first we must do our due diligence and stand for our flag in prayer. Oh God our father, we ask you to bless our meetings which we entrust to your fatherly care and protection. Please remove all selfishness and prejudice from our hearts and implant therein a keen sense of justice and a greater love for you and our neighbors. guide us in our deliberations so that our decisions will always please you and bring you peace and happiness to our community. Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Whereas chapter 231 of the public laws of the state of New Jersey require at the commencement of every meeting a statement of compliance be read by the presiding officer. Now therefore be advised that the meeting requirements for this meeting have been met and by publishing a special notice in the Herald News and the record and by posting such notice in the office of the burough clerk as well as in a public place within the municipal building. Also by notifying interested citizens. Said notice was posted and transmitted on January 3rd, 2025 and published on January 8th, 2025. First up, we have approval of minutes. We have the May 1st, 2025 work session, the May 1st, 2025 executive session, May 15, 2025 regular meeting, and May 15, 2025 executive session.

May I have a motion to approve the minutes? Second. Any discussion? Call the RO, please. First by Council President Peline, second by Councilman Folo. And roll call, we have council members Folo. Yes. Golbeck, yes. Samson, yes. Sheridan, yes. Troy, yes. Council President Peline, yes.

Motion carries. Next, I will call up Linda Calamini, the president of the homeowners association to make a presentation. Turn the mic on. Don't you get tired of coming here? Here we go. This woman is here like three or four times a year donating money to great. [Music] [Applause] It's not me giving the money. It's all of us up here. And we're very proud. Are you all very proud today to present you with the check in the amount of $2,500 to begin putting together the community garden? It is so long. When you gave the presentation last month at our meeting, I was so overwhelmed. I couldn't believe the people that attended young and old and young youngsters in their 20s that everybody's so interested in this. And it's really going to be for helping our community together and it's just a beautiful

Thank you. Thank you so much. [Applause] It really is um exactly what we needed so that we can start breaking ground and we appreciate it so much. We all work very hard for all of us.

Yes. When should we expect you again this year?

Soon. Me and the homeowners. [Applause] Okay. Next, mayor, we have two standalone resolutions and through you, um, I will read them by title only. First, we have resolution R-228-25, promotion to Captain Keith Hartman. May I have a motion on the resolution? So move.

Second. Any discussion? Call the roll, please. First by Council President Peligine. Second by Councilman Folo. On roll call, we have council members Folo. Yes. Golg, yes. Samson, yes. Sheridan, yes. Troy, yes. Council President Peline, yes.

Motion carries. At this time, I would like to call up Captain Keith Hartman alongside his family, who will be sworn in by Mayor Kleti, alongside Police Chief Michael Felgno and Police Commissioner Council President Lorine Peligreen. Captain, you've been through this before, right? These young folk

I I do solemnly swear solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution I will support the Constitution of the United States of the United States and the Constitution and the Constitution Constitution of the state of New Jersey. of the state of New Jersey. that I will bear true faith I will bear true faith and allegiance and allegiance to the same to the same and to the governments to the government established established in the United States in the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority under the authority of the people of the people and that I will faithfully that I will faithfully and partially and partially and justly perform and justly perform all the duties all the duties of the office of

the office of captain captain according to the best of my ability. according to the best of my ability. So help me God. So help me God.

Congratulations. [Applause] Another resolution. Congratulations.

Okay. Next we have resolution R-229-25 promotion to Lieutenant William Woods. May I have a motion on the resolution? So move. Second. Any discussion? Call the role, please. First by Councilman Folo. Second by Council President Peligreen. On roll call, we have council members Folo. Yes. Golc. Yes. Samson, yes. Sheridan, yes. Troy, yes. Council President Peline, yes.

Motion carries. At this time, I would like to call up Lieutenant William Woods alongside his family to be sworn in by Mayor Kleti, alongside Police Chief Michael Feligno and Police Commissioner Council President Lorraine Pellegrine. I think this promotion has come at the right time. Let's make sure God bless you. You did this before, right? Yes. Okay. I I will do solemnly swearly swear that I will support the Constitution

I will support the Constitution of the United States of the United States and the Constitution the Constitution of the State of New Jersey of the state of New Jersey that I will bear true faith I will bear true faith and allegiance and allegiance to the same to the same and to the governments to the government established established in the United States in the United States and in this state in this state under the authority under the authority of the people of the and that I will faithfully I will faithfully impartially and justly and justly perform all the duties perform all the duties of the office of the office of lieutenant lieutenant according to the best of my ability to the best of my ability.

So help me God. Congratulations. [Applause] Watch this. There she's

welcome. At this time, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to turn the meeting back over to Mike Fidno.

Thank you, Mayor. Uh congratulations guys on your well-deserved promotions. Um if you know these two officers, they work very hard, very diligently. Uh Captain Hartman actually is in law school right now, uh studying to be a lawyer, uh and and becoming a a captain at the same time. I think he has a good role model in me doing how many jobs now. So uh congratulations, Keith. Welldeserved promotion. Uh, Lieutenant Woods. Um, Billy has been serving in the role of, uh, patrol commander for the last several years. Been doing a phenomenal job. Um, he's, uh, taken on a role that's usually a captain's job, and he was the right pick for the for the position. He's done a fantastic job of getting the patrol division into uh a position where we really want it out there serving the public the right way and and you know you know keeping crime at bay. So uh congratulations on on a job well done and that's the reason why you're getting promoted because you prove that you're the guy for the job. So congratulations guys. I'm going to call uh Lieutenant Woods up to say a few words if you want to give the mic.

Bring it over Mike. Can you hear me? Good. Perfect. Uh, just a few thank yous. Uh, Mayor Kleti, members of the council. Uh, thank you guys again for this opportunity. Uh, your support for the police department is unparalleled. Not only just for the police department, but the fire department, EMS as well, all first responders. So, so thank you guys. Uh Chief Aligno, like he uh alluded to earlier, I've had the opportunity to work pretty much side by side with him over the past five years it's been chief five years. Um I look up to him as a mentor. Um and as of late an inspiration, so thank you for that. Uh my parents, Jean and Lisa, you guys been with me in this my career. I started at 19 years old and I'm still going and I'm not going to stop. Just letting you guys know. So thank you for being there for me. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, my brother Jean got my back through everything right, wrong, and different. He's always there for me. Thank you. Uh, my mother-in-law, Mary Joe. She is she has a full-time job watching my daughter Lillian, the daughter of two police officers. So, thank you for all you do for us. Thank you. uh my cousin AJ, Deputy Chief Woods from the Patterson Fire Department, somebody who I looked up to when I started this career, uh who I'm currently chasing. And just to let you know, there's a lot more ranks in the police department than there's a fire department chief. All right. So, uh my wife Danielle and my daughter Lily. Um so, what comes to mind when I speak to uh my wife is sacrifice. That that's that's what comes to mind. there's a lot um that we both sacrifice for me to be indebted into

this job that I do to the police department. So, thank you for that. Um [Applause] I'd like to thank all the officers who I work with every day. Uh I appreciate you guys. The support for me is overwhelming. You guys hold me accountable. You guys keep me sharp. You guys want me to answer those hard questions even though they're at 3:00 a.m. in the middle of the night and I'm half asleep. Uh, thank you guys for all that. That's it. Have a good rest of the night. Thank you. Captain Hartman, come on up and talk to the your fellow officers. Still on. There we go. Uh, let's start with Chief. Uh, thank you for the opportunity and um believing in me that I'm capable of holding this position. I appreciate that. Uh mayor and council, your devotion to the police department doesn't go unnoticed. I um you guys are always there to help us out. Uh tough good times, bad times. We appreciate that. All the officers notice that. Thank you. Uh to my family of uh of all things, let's start with my wife. Uh it's not the easiest. She she's she's the backbone to everything in between um work, my studies. Uh she handles all the times I'm not home. It's really uh being married to the job and uh then I decided to take it to a whole new level and she's taken on so many extra roles. I wouldn't be able to be here if it wasn't for her. My two children, you saw them. One was making little faces up there. He's the best. Um they're my motivation. Uh they're my strength. They're the reasons overall they're they're my why. They're they're why I put all this time in, all this uh extra work in um be a

role model to them and show them that uh you know if you work hard enough, you can uh achieve things in life. Uh to my co-workers, I got some from the past, some that I've worked with for years, some that are uh just getting on the job. Uh my experiences I've learned from you guys um I plan on taking on to my next role. I mean, you guys are some of the finest men and women that I've worked with, and realistically, I probably see you guys more than I see my family sometimes. Lieutenant Vic will vouch for that. And um this is an honor. I really do appreciate it, and I won't let you guys down. Mayor, turn it back over. Council comments. Uh we'll start off with Mr. Solo.

Thank you, Mayor. Uh just from the words that both of you spoke, you could tell what kind of uh upstanding men you guys both are. Uh it's truly deserved uh these promotions. I've been a councilman for almost 6 years now and uh seeing all of you, all the officers out there in the community uh shows what a tight-knit community we have and and an even better uh police force. So it's a testament to your hard work and your dedication. So thank you both for all that you do for our community. Good luck and God bless. Thank you, Mr. Folo. Mr. Goolbeck.

Thank you, mayor. Um, first I'd like to thank our chief for his continued uh steady leadership of the department. Most chiefs do two or three years pad their pension and call it a day. Our chief has been here for a long time and and doesn't look like he's heading anywhere. So, I I I sincerely appreciate your leadership. I want to thank the current officers here, the retired officers, the officers from other communities. Um, tremendous show of support. I think we have half of our department here. That's incredible. Um, to now Captain Hartman and Lieutenant Woods, congratulations, best wishes, and good luck to you as you continue to send through your careers. All the best. Thank you,

Mr. Dansson, Captain Hartman, Lieutenant Woods, through the words of the chief and um just the uh support of your men here. I mean, your office, all your officers here. Look at the room. Like they said, it's half the job is here. So, thank you for your service, your continued dedication. I know you won't let us down. And be safe out there and continue to uh lead these uh lead this department in a forward direction. Thank you and Godspeed. Thank you, Councilman. Councilwoman Sheridan. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'd like to say congratulations to Captain and Lieutenant. I'd also like to point out the families. Um, thank you for letting the fam letting them go and achieve to where they are today. Um, good luck. God bless and stay safe.

Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilwoman Tracy. So, congratulations to Captain Hartman and Lieutenant Woods um on achieving your new rank. I know that in order to do that, it takes a lot of training, commitment, dedication, probably a lot of really good decisions, right? Um so, uh I want to acknowledge that and thank you for your service here in Elma Park and always remain safe. I would also like to thank uh Linda Colamini and the homeowners association for their very generous generous donation to the community garden. For those who don't know, the community garden will be located in the Birchwood section of town at the um the little piece of triangle triangle land at um Cole Birchwood and Marginal. Um so we are excited about that and we look forward to creating uh a space where people of all generations can come together. Um one that supports um the eco system. Um, we plan to attract uh the birds, the bees, the butterflies, the humming the hummingbirds and all the good things that will pollinate um the flowers and the vegetables. So, thank you again, Linda.

Council President Pel Green.

Yes. Good evening, everyone. Congratulations, Captain Hartman and Lieutenant Woods, on your well-deserved promotions tonight. Wishing you both continued success in your new roles. Stay safe always. And I just want you to both know how much you're so appreciated for all that you do. And the whole team of police officers here tonight. They put the effort that you ladies and gentlemen put in is extraordinary. We see it on a daily basis. We had a department head meeting today and everybody was saying the same thing. you really truly care. It's just not a job for all of you. It's who you are and it's evident in all that you do. And we can't say it enough times how blessed we are to have each and every one of you serving our community and keeping us safe each and every day. So, I wish you continued success. And to all of you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all you do for our community. And Chief Aligno, you're the prime example of what a leader is. And through you, that's why we have such a wonderful force here tonight, police force tonight. So, thank you again. Godspeed and good luck with all you do. Thank you.

Well, this this really depicts what this United States is all about. Established 250 years ago, incentive to move on in life. the American dream, the family foundation, and you look at any business or organization like this, there's always the aspect of advancement. And that's the great part of our United States, this government. If you have it in you to give it all you got, you can advance. Tonight is a perfect example of these two gentlemen who've worked very hard obviously to achieve their their positions tonight. But that started years back with that commitment and then which is displayed here this evening is is the family structure. Gentlemen, I think it's safe to say, and you've said it yourselves, that if it wasn't for your family and the structure, you'd never be here right now. Well, you might be serving time somewhere. My point is that it's a united goal by your family, yourselves, and their commitment. And tonight, it personifies uh the uh the aspect of moving up in life. And congratulations to you all. Yeah, Mike. You good? We're going to take a recess so that family can take some pictures maybe with some of the council people and we'll return very shortly.

Show your new book. [Music] Don't listen to her. Okay. Mayor, I would like to reestablish a quorum for the regular meeting of the Elwood Park Mayor and Council for July 17th, 2025. On roll call we have council members Fello here. Golbeck here. Samson Sheridan here. Tracy here. Council President Peline here. Mayor Kleti here.

We have reestablished a quorum. Moving on through our agenda. We have ordinances on first reading. We have resolution R-230-25 introduced ordinance number 25-9 on first reading. It resolved that an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending section 27-3.1B refused containers and collection related to garbage receptacle volume and weight be passed and adopted our first reading and be it resolved that a final hearing on said ordinance will be heard in the municipal building on Thursday, August 21st, 2025 at 7:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as same can be heard at which time any person interested in set ordinance can be heard. Be it further resolved that the burough clerk be and she is hereby authorized to advertise in a legal newspaper a notice of introduction and final hearing as required by law.

Our attorney would you be so kind to break this down for us? Uh thank you mayor. So this is just a minor change. As you recall last year we made some updates um to the refuge collection and garbage collection uh ordinance regarding receptacles. Uh and at that time we had decided to take out the uh weight and volume restrictions that were in there. You subsequently entered into a contract with the uh the garbage uh truck vendor uh which required um pound and volume uh limitations on those and this just matches that up with the contract. Thank you. May I have a motion on the ordinance? So move. Second. Any discussion? Call the roll, please.

First by Council President Pel Green, second by Councilman Samson. On roll call, we have Council Members Folo. Yes. Golabbec. Yes. Samson. Yes. Sheridan. Yes. Troy. Yes. Council President Pellegrine. Yes. Motion carries.

Next we have resolution R-231-25 introduce ordinance number 25-20 on first reading. Be it resolved that an ordinance entitled an ordinance adopting burough code chapter 35 portable toilets to address portable toilet use be passed and adopted on first reading. And be it resolved that a final hearing on said ordinance will be heard in the municipal building on Thursday, April 21st, 2025 at 7:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as him can be heard, at which time any persons interested in a set ordinance can be heard. Be it further resolved that the burough clerk being and she is hereby authorized to advertise in a legal newspaper a notice of introduction and final hearing as required by law.

Mr. Figgno. Mayor, um we had a situation where a resident was uh renting out their pool for um which is against Bur ordinance and subsequently found that they were um they had a uh portage John in their driveway. So the people that were renting their pool didn't have to go into their house to use their toilet. So we had our attorney look into this and uh make some uh modifications to the ordinance or or add things to it. Thank you. May I have a motion on the ordinance? So move. Second. Any discussion? Call the roll, please. First by Councilman Folo, second by Councilman Golbeck. On roll call, we have council members. Yes. Golc. Yes. Samson, yes. Sheridan,

yes. Troy, yes. Council president, yes.

Motion carries. Next, we have resolution R-232-25. Introduce ordinance number 25-21 on first reading. We resolved that an ordinance entitled an ordinance to amend the code of the bureau of Elwood Park, New Jersey, amending the burough code and all general ordinances of the burrow. More specifically, chapter 4, licensing and business regulations, section 4.7, clarifying application fees and license fees, clarifying types and numbers of licenses that may be issued. And chapter 8, cannabis facilities and establishments section 8.2, to clarifying cannabis delivery service from local cannabis retailers be passed and adopted on first reading and be resolved that a final hearing on said ordinance will be heard in the municipal building on Thursday August 21st 2025 at 7:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as same can be heard at which time any person interested in set ordinance can be heard. Be it further resolved that the burough clerk being and she is hereby authorized to advertise in a legal newspaper a notice of introduction and final hearing as required by law.

Mr. Fluill, would you like to make some comments on this? Mayor, I think the primary uh reason for this amendment is to allow for uh delivery service in the burrow for um cannabis. if anybody else has any more that they want to add. Mayor,

u I believe it also uh resends some licenses and I'll just explain that to the residents out there that um when cannabis was originally legalized in the state of New Jersey, it was very confusing even to the attorneys. Uh they were getting conflicting reports. So it took a while for it to to for the actual laws uh to be understood by municipalities like ourselves. I think we were a little overzealous at the very beginning. We had something like 16 licenses might have even been 18. Uh we realized that that was too much and we rescended some licenses in this ordinance. May I have a motion on the ordinance?

So move second.

Any discussion? Yes, mayor. Um, I will be voting no on this ordinance. Um, everyone knows marijuana has been legalized in the state of New Jersey and municipalities can decide whether or not to allow it on their borders. We allowed it. We have revised this ordinance so many times I I I've lost count. We've had discussions about the the marijuana ordinance so many times. Um, I I've I've honestly lost count. The mayor references 16 to 18 licenses. I want to be want to be clear, those are not 16 to 18 retail licenses where you could walk in and and buy marijuana. Um that number is inclusive of distribution um manufacturing and cultivation which are warehousebased type operations. Um, in a time where most municipalities or a lot of municipalities in New Jersey are cash starved, uh, in a time where we have seen our municipal tax in uh, tax levy go up double digits two years in a row. I cannot fathom removing uh, a tool on the books that could bring us revenue. Every transaction conducted within the borders of Elwood Park is 2% to the municipal the Elwood Park coffers. the budget. Okay, we're eliminating a license today. Somebody will find a neighboring town that has a license will not will be boxed out of Elwood Park. It'll just move economic activity a couple hundred feet, half a mile, a mile. We lose out on the money, but certain people get to show maybe some of the more conservative um residents of Elwood Park. And I mean that in terms of um you know, ideologically, not politically, uh given the red meat that we got, we got rid of a license. We're not going to be Elwood Elmwood Pot. That's come up a lot of her meetings. We can't be Elmwood Pot. We did this ordinance for 4 years.

Everyone was fine. The mayor now says we can't be Elwood Pot. Oh my god. I think it's foolish. Two years of double digit tax increases and we're removing a tool that could bring revenue to the burrow. Thank you, mayor.

Well, regarding the taxes, you should have thought of that three years ago because what your tax today started two years back. Getting getting back to the cannabis situation on Route 46 from River Drive to the boulevard on both sides. You're going to have four dispensaries within what is it a half a mile. You're going to have four dispensaries on Bush's Lane, an area that's mixed residential, commercial. The residents were up in arms. There was 25 people here through the process of uh allowing a cultivator to take a building on on Bush's Lane. We the planning board denied it because it was in the zone. It was overturned by the appellet court. My point is that to to the councilman's point, the revenue is nice and why should the town next to us h get all of it and us none. However, it comes to a point where enough is enough and and and in in terms of uh the taxation as aspect of it. At what price do you give up the opinion and the sanctuary of the citizen and what makes this more difficult is the fact that it's still not accepted totally by everybody. So those people are going to have negative con connotations about the product. So you're dealing with that too. We got it down to a nice level. We got income coming in. If I may, mayor, I just want to add that in, as you had indicated, there's four there. There will be four dispensaries on Route 46 alone. I tend to feel that those um businesses are going to cannibalize each other now because they're so close and

they're so condensed that four of them are not going to survive in my opinion of course and that um we're risking that revenue because they're so condensed and by reducing at least one license we're making a move in the right direction. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else with that? May I have a motion on the ordinance? Oh, we have a a motion by Councilman Folo and second by Councilwoman Troy. I did a motion. What was that? My motion. Oh, Eric. Uh, yeah. I make a motion. Discussion. Call the roll, please. Okay. First by Councilman Samson, second by Council President Pel Green. On roll call, we have council members.

No. No. Samson, yes. Sheridan, yes. Tracy, yes. Council President Pellegrine, yes.

Motion carries. Next, we have ordinances on second reading. We have resolution R-233-25, introduce ordinance number 25-14 on second reading. Whereas a public notice has been given by the burough clerk that an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending section 7-13.1 parking prohibited at all times on certain streets to establish a no parking zone on Miller Avenue was introdu was introduced and passed at a meeting held on Thursday June 12th 2025 and that further consideration of this ordinance would be taken up at this meeting and whereas all persons interested in said ordinance were given an opportunity to be heard concerning the same now therefore be resolved by the mayor and council of the bureau of Emwood Park that an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending section 7-13.1 parking prohibited at all times on certain streets to establish a no parking zone on Miller Avenue. Pass on final reading. Motion to open to the public.

So move. Second. Anyone from the public here to speak on this ordinance and this ordinance alone? If not, I'll close the public portion. May I have a motion to adopt the ordinance? Some move. Second. Call the role, please. First by Council President Peline, second by Councilman Folo. On roll call, we have council members Foso. Yes. Golbeck, yes. Samson, yes. Sheridan, yes. Troy, yes. Council President Peline, yes.

Motion carries. Next, we have resolution R-234-25. Introduce ordinance number 25-15 on second reading. Whereas a public notice has been given by the burough clerk that an ordinance entitled an ordinance adopting burough code section 7-9.1 to 7-9.15 residential parking permit area to allow for the designation of residential parking areas on a trial basis was introduced and passed at a meeting held on Thursday June 12th 2025 and that further consideration of this ordinance will be taken up at this meeting and whereas all persons interested in said ordinance were given an opportunity to be heard concerning the same. Now therefore, it be resolved by the mayor and council of the Burlwood Park that an ordinance entitled an ordinance adopting Burough Code section 7-9.1 to 7-9.15 residential parking permit area to allow for the designation of residential parking areas on a trial basis. Pass on final reading.

May I have a motion to open to the public? So move second. Anyone from the public here to speak on this ordinance? This ordinance alone? Hold on. And I want to limit uh your civil conversation or statement to 10 minutes. Uh and we'll start we'll start with uh you sir. You're next. Phil in the back. Name, address, please. Good evening. Yes. Push the button. Push the button.

My name is John Gilmore. I live at 91 Orange Avenue, Elmer Park. Good evening. Uh, I'm reading this statement on behalf of the concerned family member who lives at my residence on in the Roseman section. Uh, she's currently mobilized in the US military and couldn't be here tonight. Um, she's asked me to concern her um bring up her concerns regarding this uh parking ordinance. First, she'd like to um get a clear answer. Will this uh parking permit require uh fees for our residents? Yes or no? Yes, they are. Uh in in this ordinance as it sits right now,

yeah, this proposal is not acceptable. It's really unfair to those to those folks who live in our area. The trial program should not start by charging every the very residents it affects. If the goal is to test whether permit parking helps alleviate business related overflow, the burden should not fall on the homeowners already dealing with alternate side rules and no parking anytime restrictions, especially on streets like Parkview Park View Avenue uh where the parking is limited or prohibited. This raises a serious concern. Has the council re reviewed the existing parking restrictions on these particular streets? Some of these streets named in the proposal don't even allow parking. And it seems like parts of the plan are being implemented without a full understanding of the current conditions. And since no member of the council lives in the Rosemont section, I question how closely you evaluated on the grounds on the ground reality. Before any cost is placed on residents, I have several questions. What other streets in Elma Park currently require paid residential permits and what has the outcome been? So, sir, just to recap, you're you're opposing the actual ordinance of uh sticker parking or the cost of it, which is your complaint, I should say.

Or the cost of it. The cost as far as the structure of the ordinance, you have no problem with that? Um, yes, I have I have a problem with that also. Okay. You want to state what that problem is? Um, well, we have no no problem right now on our streets and we shouldn't, you know, we shouldn't have to have a permit to park on our own streets. So, what you're saying, well, leave well enough alone. Yes. Okay.

When has the town ever charged residents to park in front of their own homes? What will this permit cost us? Is it is it an annual permit? Um and how is that determined and how is if revenue is collected, how will that be used? Mr. Flickno, would you like to answer that part of it? Uh mayor, I believe um we structured it to do be $25 for the first vehicle, $10 for any vehicle after that. The I think it's

Oh, is it 25 and 20? And then the uh money collected is going towards signage, posts, and the stickers themselves, mayor. Um that was what was discussed with the mayor and council. Okay. Uh how will guest parking work? Will there be limits and time restrictions for these guests? Will there residents um have to contact the town every time somebody visits?

I believe that with the sticker, you won't have to contact the hours that Yes. So, so there's also a provision if you read the draft ordinance that that's up for tonight uh for visitor uh permits to be distributed to those residents that have residential permits and the visitor permit would not be at a cost.

Okay. So, there's also been a a serious lack of transparency. No mailers or flyers or formal notices were sent to the not to the homes in that affected area. According to the burough response on Facebook, only 38 homes responded in favor of the plan out of approximately 135 included too many two two family homes. That means 70% were either not surveyed or didn't support it. That's not a majority. That's barely a sample. Mr. Fignal, do you want to respond to that? So, um,

sorry. Lieutenant Victor Scott is in charge of traffic and operations. He um sent me an email today explaining how his division handled this and I will read the email to you verbatim sir. Uh as a follow-up to our discussion I spoke with officer Niccastro who delivered these letters. She stated that she delivered a survey to every address from Florence Place to Sterling Street between Route 4 and Magnolia Street. She stated it took her several hours to complete this and she also stated she was stopped by many residents to discuss the survey. I checked our CAD system, our computerated dispatch and there's a car uh a computerenerated uh entry for each street. She stated that deliveries started at uh 0947 9:47 a.m. and ended at 1413 which is 2:13 in the afternoon. And here is a breakdown of each uh of those cards. So, um, we had a letter, uh, I can pull the letter up and read it to you if you'd like, sir. And that was handd delivered by a police officer to every residence from Route 4 to Magnolia, from Sterling Street to Florence Place. Um, would you like me to read the letter?

Yes. I'm sorry.

What date, please, so we can receive such a letter? Uh March 11th, 2025. Dear resident, the mayor and councelor are seeking your input on a proposed parking regulation for our community. A survey will soon be conducted for residents on the streets in the Rosemont section, specifically from Florence Place to Sterling Street, extended from Broadway to Magnolia Street/an Street. The purpose of this survey is to determine whether residents support the implementation of residentonly parking from 9:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. 7 days a week. This proposal is intended to address concerns about non-resident non-residents, particularly patrons of nearby businesses along Broadway using residential street parking and reducing availability for those who live in the area. Your opinion is important and we encourage you to participate in the survey to ensure your voice is heard. The feedback collected will help guide any decision regarding parking regulations in your neighborhood. Please scan the QR code below to complete the survey by Wednesday, March 26, 2025. Thank you for your time and involvement in keeping our community a great place to live. Um, just for uh, you know, a little more background on this, uh, the the the burrow the police department was approached by uh a few residents um about concerns about not being able to park in front of their own homes who live in that area. Right. We didn't seek this out. This came to us.

So, in response to that resident's concern, uh we we did this this survey because we want to make we want to hear from the rest of the the neighborhood. So, there's something we went to each home cuz Yes, each home. I I talked to my neighbors that none of them have received it.

Okay. So, anyway, uh out of all the letters that were delivered, 48 people responded to the survey. Now, we can't control who responds, right? I mean, we hope that everybody responds, but that didn't happen. So, 48 of theund and something that were delivered um and we have police records on this responded. Out of the 48, 38 said they were in favor of this program, this trial program, and 10 said they weren't. So, unfortunately, that's the only sampling the mayor and council had to go by when making their decision. So when making their decision, it was an overwhelming majority that wanted this to to be tried. And it's only being it's only a trial. It's only it's only being tried for a year to see if it works. And I think their thought process was let's run through each season. Let's run through the holidays. Let's run through the summers the summer and see what type of a of a response we get from this. Does it help our our residents that are asking for this or does it make it worse? I don't I don't know. Um, so, so that's all this isn't um a conspiracy. This isn't out to hurt anyone. The the the again the funds are for to offset the cost of the signage. There's sign there's metal signs that are going to have to go on each block. There's posts and then there's the actual stickers themselves and then the the guest passes. So, taking that all into account, that's why the decision was made for for a charge. And I understand what you're saying. you know, are we taxing our people to park? No. No, we're not. We're just we we in our mind, we're making it more convenient for our residents that live there. So, unfortunately, some people see it differently. So, that's that's a that's the facts.

You know, whether we agree or disagree, I'm just telling you what the facts are, sir. So, we were just speaking that, you know, our section kind of gets screwed because, you know, that's the only section that that has to pay. Yeah. Oh, but if you live there, right? I mean, isn't it helping you? Like, don't people park in front of your home that patronize the businesses? I I just I don't know. Well, have the has a solution been talked to um to those businesses?

Yeah, there's no there is no solution. We've tried numerous times to speak to one in particular. Unfortunately, none of those businesses have parking lots with the exception of 7-Eleven. Um, and it's just a tough situation all the way around, you know. So, we're we're doing the best we think we we can do to to try to help, you know, alleviate the parking issue for the people that live there that are complaining about cars parking in front of their homes and not having a place to park. So, that's that's all all I have to say. And if I might add, when it comes to the planning board and those businesses is were scrutinized as far as their employees parking on on route 4 or in their parking lots. We discourage that and they sign accordingly to that. So, we understand that it's a commercial residential area and there's got to be a marriage. Now, we're here to referee basically and get the best solution and try and make everybody happy, but I can see that's not going to happen here. We will try though. Thank you, sir.

All right. Thank you very much. Anyone else care to speak on this subject and this subject alone? that gentleman in back with that blue nice shirt on.

Good evening, council. Good evening, mayor. Um, my name is Irv Lucan. I'm the owner of the record store on Broadway. Um, and I only found out about this ordinance today, so I apologize. I may not be as prepared as I should be had I had more time to to really look into it. Um, but a few thoughts that I had based on conversations with other people on Broadway. Um, and we're just curious as to we understand that it's a mixed zone there and of course the residents are there, but we're we're concerned that um to free up some parking, you're willing to put all the businesses on Broadway out of business. Now, if you think any of the businesses on Broadway can last a year without any customers, I don't understand what your thought process is. You have to understand, uh, I mean, I came before the council. I had a business that wasn't going to have a million cars. I've been here 10 years, very happy, and no complaints. We don't have a million cars. But to have no parking, you know, for a business, I mean, that's basically putting us out of business. And and I was given no notice that that would happen.

I'm I'm sorry for interrupting you, but sure. You have all of Broadway to park on.

I have two spots for four businesses. Two spots. And some of those spots are taken up for an hour, two hours. Most of my customers are 15 minutes. But if they can't park, they can't park. There is no parking on Broadway. And come on to Broadway and you'll see there's two spots in front of me, two spots in front of the exotic pets, and there's two big businesses there. And as you go down the block, there's certainly not enough parking for any of the businesses. If our people can't park for a short amount of time on the street, we could understand limiting the amount of time. We could understand things like that. But to completely cut us off from our customers arbitrarily because this was in March, I'm hearing and we nobody came to me. Nobody advised us. I got no notification in the mail. The owner of the building got no notification in the mail. We're just being blindsided by a second reading of an ordinance that will basically put out 10 12 businesses and before, you know, we we fall to complaints of, you know, a resident or two who is unhappy that there's more parking on their street than there used to be. we you know you your job is to try and figure out a way but being draconian and just saying well let's put all the businesses on Broadway out of business and they won't have a problem I mean I wonder where their guests are going to come where's Uber going to park where's Amazon going to park are the police going to go up and down the block and every time somebody pulls over to to spend 15 minutes in one of the houses do they need a parking pass a a guest pass you know I I just don't understand why it's so heavyhanded against people who are just trying to do a business. Now, I'm about to say something that that might not be the

right thing to say, but I just want to speak for my business. I understand that all the residents live here and vote for you folks, and I understand that priority, okay? But as a business person in Elwood Park, does anybody here read the magazine 2011? a girl in the back. Okay.

I would just like to say that we have brought a lot of attention, positive attention to Elwood Park because we have been written up time and time again for the things we do there and the famous people who who come to my store to shop. Now, if you think they're going to come with no parking, it's it's not going to happen. I mean, we're not a detriment. I'm not talking about, and I don't want to mention any other business. It's not my business, but my business is is an asset to the uh burrow of Elwood Park. I grew up here. Uh I was born in Barnum Memorial Hospital, so I'm not a stranger to the area. And like I said, my business has been an asset. I came before this very council and promised that my business would be an asset. And 10 years later, I've gotten no complaints and I've run the business exactly as I told the council I would. And to be blindsided by, well, we're just going to take all your parking away. It just doesn't seem fair.

Yeah. Let me ask you, you had said before if some type of compromise on the timing, what would you propose? Well, just like you don't want people parking on the block and going to New York, you know, uh there's got to be a reasonable amount of time. Uber doesn't spend 2 hours. My customers don't spend 2 hours. The nail people don't spend 2 hours. My my neighbor, very good neighbor, um has no parking as you know. So, and their people come and go and mostly a female population that doesn't want to park illegally and shop, right? Or walk five blocks down cuz there won't be any parking cuz you're taking away even the parking in front of his side of his business. So,

again, excuse me, sir. Yes, I'm sorry. So, we worked in I'm sorry, I I forgot to say this. worked into the ordinance is on each block going up from Broadway north towards Magnolia, there's going to be at least four to six spots left that the the ordinance is not going to start until you know enough room up where you can fit about two cars on each side, maybe four, maybe three on each side. So, I I I failed to to bring that out. So, there is going to be parking on the side streets from Broadway to let's say the first home. Okay. Well, again, I apologize to live with the ordinance.

80 80 feet on each block north from from Broadway towards Magnolia. So, there will be, you know, that's going to get you four to six at least four to six spots um on each I would again, and I apologize for this too, but how are the residents going to have guests come over? How is somebody going to visit grandma? Yes. Well, but if I decide to after school to come visit my cousin on the block, do they have to make arrangements? You know, everybody on the block, there's 200 houses. Everybody's calling up every day.

Understood. But you're, and I'm not I don't mean this in a in in a derogatory way, but you're talking about what affects you. The people that brought this forth were are talking about what affects them. So, they're going to disagree with you. You're going to disagree with them, right? So they they feel like their quality of life has gone down because their businesses are parking their their customer cars in front of their homes. Therefore, they can't even have guests over. I'm I'm making that sound worse than it is, but you get the drift that Yes, I understand. You see black, you see white. I certainly understand that. There's two sides to each of the

Again, in all the time that I've been there, I have heard from several of the residents cuz I'm friendly. Like I said, I'm from here and there's just been a couple of people who have tried to put the businesses out of business. I know the nail salon next to me has been bombarded by one or two people on Florence to try and get him out of there simply because they don't like him. You know, I don't understand. He's Vietnamese. Maybe that's the reason. But no, his people don't litter. His people, you know, there's only a maximum amount of seats he has in the place. taking away his parking three sign. I I appreciate 80 ft and 80 ft, but that's still only a few, you know, a few and and some people are going to be um employees of some of the businesses and they're going to be there all day. So,

yeah, but the employees can't the the CEOs and the and the and the site plans. You can't have your business spill over into the neighborhood. That's I I wanted would love to see your your your site plan and your CEO because there's no way they approved you to have your business spill over into a neighborhood with employee parking. That just doesn't exist. I'm just speaking out to the the use of three spots in three spots. Understood. But to the mayor's question, the people live here and they they want to be able to park their cars in their, you know,

again, I I understand with you and and so I won't speak for the neighbors because I don't live on Florence, but uh I think more to the the mayor's question and I think that might really be a better solution here is timed parking for non-residents. So they're very difficult to manage. Well, well, how are you managing that the person's a visitor or, you know, a customer? Well, I'm sorry. By looking at the

By looking at the sticker, right? If we have to go up there and mark a tire and come back in 15 minutes, we have other obligations and serious things that we're we're dealing with, right? To have a police officer sit there and and come back every 15 minutes, it's probably not going to get managed very well. So, these things were all considered. these things were all considered. And to the mayor's point, the the caveat to to to um compromise is we we factored in was the 80 ft on on every every street from Broadway up. So there there are it's not as bad as you think as you think and it's a year. If it doesn't work, it's not going to come out.

I just know none of those businesses can do without their customers for a year. Well, let me ask you, sir. You um you weren't apprised of of all this. Now you're more or less surprised of it. When you heard about the 80 ft on both sides, I I watched you and you it seemed to calm you down. Is that that satisfy you a little more?

Well, of course, any parking is better than no parking. But I am still a little blindsided by this, you know, total ban of anything beyond there for people to park. I mean, again, I grew up here. None of the other streets are like that. It seems totally focused on the businesses on Broadway. That's because in order to get to the businesses on Broadway, you're you're banning them from There's no other part of town where businesses exist in in close proximity to a residential neighborhood where those businesses do not have off- streetet parking.

That just doesn't exist. So, anybody that comes forth and say, "Let's do this townwide." There's no reason to do it townwide. There's no reason to do it anywhere else in town. But in that section, in response to a complaint, we didn't just we didn't just come to pick this out of the air. Like, nobody wants to deal with this if we don't have to. But I would love for you to really poll all 200 people that live on that block, right? We did a poll. Who really speaks louder than all the Were you listening? We did a poll, right? And and the residents here said they never got it. Well, okay. But but lying to you? Are you calling the residents here liars? Sir, don't try to Don't try to provoke me into You did what I say. You should call everybody.

I'm telling you that my police officer put put a forth a report that said she handd delivered over a 100 letters doortodoor. Okay. And that we out of that survey we got 48 responses. I understand. So, so nobody's lying. Nobody's making anything up. I'm just trying to say. But that's silly for you to say, right? You said, "Come on. We're calling the residents liars. Live there and No, but perhaps they missed it. I I don't know what what happened, but so many people missed it. Okay. Where's there so many people? How many people here live on the blocks and didn't get? Okay, so they missed it. I don't know. This is the few people that are here. This is a large percentage of the people who I guarantee you we're not lying to you, sir.

It's not that those things were delivered fine, but maybe that wasn't sufficient to take care of our problem. Let me let me have Let me have just for one second. Sure. The great part of this government is the fact that we get here to air these problems out. That's what's happening right now. Let's not get personal. Stick to the facts. We got all the time in the world to allow each and every one of you to come up and state your case. This does not become law possibly until next month. So, there's a there's a work work. It it's tonight. Okay. Well, that's a different story. All right. Well, in any case, we want to hear everybody

before we go to the vote. Thank you very much for giving me time. Anyone else care to speak on this, please? Dear lady in back you then you're next. The fellow with the uh lime green shirt. Hello. How are you? I'm good. How are you? My name is Kristen Ciano. I live on 85 Orange A. I just want to say congrats because I think you're still Congratulations on the promotion. Congratulations. You're his neighbor. Uh, no. I'm the Gilmore's neighbor here on 85, but I was I didn't know I was walking into promotion. I think that's a pretty awesome night to walk into. So, thank you.

Okay.

And congrats. Um, okay. So, I want to be brief. Don't waste your time. Just couple small concerns. Um, going into it, I thought it was transparency, but you're saying there was a survey that went out. I'm saying I didn't receive a survey and if I did, it was lost in some manner. So, this was the first I was hearing about it earlier this week. Um, so transparency was my first issue coming to you guys tonight and I want to just have my voice heard with that. So, it's kind of felt like blindsided. Um, the next one is the cost for the residents. I pay taxes here and that seems like an undue cost for me. So if the idea is that people would be fined in theory for not following the parking passes because you know people will not follow the parking permits etc. could we use those funds to fund whatever we think is doing instead of putting the cost on the shoulder of the residents. Um so I have a problem with the cost and then the last thing is the visitor parts. So what I read briefly was that there were two visitor passes and I think you guys repeated that today. So, I think that doesn't protect for like the driveby of like a grandma coming by and saying like, you know, just stopping by because they went to shop, right? And they're coming back and, you know, they want to come and see their grandkids for a short period of time. That's not planned or even I necessarily know about that. So, it's not something I can plan ahead. And then the other part with the two visitor parking is I have two young kids, so we have birthday parties in my house in my backyard and that doesn't cover my immediate family. So, just the limitations that's set forth for that. So, I wanted to keep it brief and not emotional, but those were my three concerns. The transparency, the cost on my shoulders if I were to do permit passing, uh, permit passes, and finally, the visitor passes, the limitation even with a planned party.

So, you basically oppose a whole ordinance, uh, the cost of it plus the, uh, actual functioning of it. Yeah. So, my personal vestment in it is I live on Orange A., It's an alternate street parking situation as it is. So there's limits to parking already put on my street specifically and I can't speak for the rest of the Rosemont section. I don't know enough about the town. I just know Orange A. So we have limited parking anyway. So when we have a party um my specific side of the street is park on the weekend in front of my side and the opposite is during the week. Um so it's already limited parking for us. Um but I don't want to be selfish with the rest of the time. So those were my concerns. I I'm not saying it can't happen. just as it was presented seems like it it would be negatively affecting me and my family.

Okay. Thank you, dear. Thank you for your time and again congrats.

Yes, sir. You lost yourself. We had a little sidebar there. We're talking about the Yankees and and the Mets.

No problem. No problem. And uh again, congratulations. We didn't know that we were walking into a you know an ascend. Um good evening. My name is Frank Lopez. I live on 82 Elizabeth Avenue. Um I just got wind of this yesterday. I never got we never got uh any mailing. And again, we're not saying they're lying. We're just saying we never got it. Um, I do believe that alternate alternate side of the street parking is a little bit much on our end. Um, I live on Elizabeth Avenue and we actually, you know, if anybody comes over, they have to park our street or they have to park on our side. So, I think if removing the alternate part side of the park, the alternate side of the street parking on our street would alleviate a lot of those problems. Um, as far as paying for a permit, why would you want to put that burden on us when we're the ones that have the homes? We're the ones that own the homes. We're the ones that uh support the community, pay the taxes, you know, law-abiding citizens. Why should we foot the bill for the visitors? You know what I mean? Like, we're we're we're showing that we live there, but then the other people, you know, they come and they get a ticket. Meanwhile, we've already paid the $25 for the permits. And I believe if it's 135 permits, 135 homes at 25, it comes out to like $3,300.

So you opposing the cost and the actual functioning of the ordinance? 100%. 100%. Okay. It's, you know, it it we own a two family home. Although we don't rent, we we all live because we have five children. Um they all have they all have their cars. They all paid for their cars. They'll pay for their insuranceances and we actually have to play, you know, juggling the cars in and out of the driveways every night because our neighbor our neighbor on the corner doesn't even have a driveway.

Yeah. She doesn't have a driveway and they have like I don't know like about four or five cars as well, too. So, what's going to happen to them? You know what I mean? Like they they they're going to have to get this permit. And I don't think it's fair considering we pay for the taxes. We we pay for the infrastructure. Let me ask you this. Sure. Is the traffic from the businessing businesses encumbering your your operation? It does. But guess what? We grew up in New York, so parking is, you know, this is great. I mean, you know, I'm not complaining. But my concern is then we This is my wife by the way, Emily Lopez. Welcome wife. 82 Elizabeth as well. Eight years. 82 Elizabeth. No, eight years.

How many? We've known each other our whole lives. Okay. My parents babysat her when she was a baby. Oh my gosh. Wow. Yeah. So I Yeah.

No, my concern is also the community. Um though I don't have a business on Broadway, I am concerned about the business cuz that's what brings people into our town. I know I I know Rosemont gets a lot of traffic due to the busing, I guess, business that they have on that end. I get that. I understand that. Um, and I know he was saying, "Oh, it's too much for the the police department to come back and forth to check the tires every 15 minutes." All right, let's do a time limit, not 15 minutes, but give it 30 minutes. Um, it concerns everyone. And I I understand the residents because I'm a resident here, but I also worry about our town. We want to better the town, not make it worse. And we need that the businesses running for that reason. Um, you know what? Remove the alternate parking. I mean, that's another another subject that I that I shouldn't even touch, but you know, we have alternate parking for cleanings to come by. I don't I barely see them come and clean the streets anyway to begin with. So, why not remove and do it maybe every Wednesday that come do street cleaning, but we need we need the parking. That's impossible. And then we're going to get a cost for it. That makes no sense.

Well, this ordinance would probably if if it was passed here tonight would probably give you more parking. So, I'm a little confused on your contention. No. Well, it'll probably give us more parking, but it also gives us another $25 that we have to pay, which

So, I I actually thought thinking with, you know, like New Yorker, um maybe you should do a time limit, you know, on the street parking for half an hour, limited time from 9:00 to 5:00 where the businesses are open or something along those lines. Maybe that'll that'll deter people from actually taking up the parking spots or parking all day and taking the bus into the city cuz we've seen that happen too. I'm not going to complain again cuz listen, if I park down the street, guess what? I'll walk. It's no big deal. I grew up in New York and I understand most of you did it and live in Jersey and that's the convenience of living living in Jersey and I'm not going to deprive them of that. But you know there has to be some kind of midpoint where we can live with this without having to pay for it.

Exactly. Okay. Thank you very much. No, thank you

for your opinion. Yes, sir. Good evening, Mayor, council, and administration. My name is Jerry Labzo. I live at 99 Florence Place. First of all, this comes from the request of the Florence Place residents from Broadway to St. An Street. This is a 20-year-old problem. This isn't something that just happened. Now, the the the gentleman that came up here with the blue shirt, yes, he has a business. He has a few people that park on our street. The nail salon, a few more than that, their patrons leave their their their little white things that they put on their feet and they literally just leave them on our block. that was almost something we could live with. The new store that came, which is New NJ Exotic Pets, has taken our street has taken our street and turned it into a carnival. Now, as I said before, we've been through this. So, let me first start by thanking this mayor and this council and this and this administration for getting us this far because we were never able to get this far. So, I thank you. I thanked you last week at a private session and I want to thank you in front of everybody here. I will tell you this is the best mayor and council that I've seen in the 30 years that I've lived here. You guys don't fight. I've seen some really ugly mayors and councils in the past. And now finally, there's some relief, but I want to clarify something for everybody. I I I'm here on behalf of 15 families on Florence Place. Florence Place is the one that's affected the most. Some of the council members sitting on the dance right now have come to see it with their own eyes. Florence Place had become a parking lot. But more

importantly, Florence Place is going to be the the reason why a child gets h hit by a car or killed. They have when they come to our street to park, this is for the new store that opened up, which by the way has lied on every turn to the mayor and council and to the to the the zoning board. They said they would only have a few people working. They said that they would only have a few patrons. You cannot move on my street. K turns four and five at the same time in and out. Everybody who gets out of the car are parents with their children. They go to the store, they come back empty-handed. So I'm like, how is that possible? So all the things that they were told not to do, they're doing. They're holding a petting zoo once a week, once a month, and they're charging people to do it. They're having arts and crafts once a week for children. Their CO does not allow them to do that because that becomes an assembly use. The assemb the the the CO for this building allows us all to be here today because the the CO says assembly. We've assembled. They don't have the permission to assemble. So unfortunately for the man who sells the records and then they patient please in the microphone.

Well, I I'm getting a cick in my neck. I'm hoping that everybody can hear me loud and clear.

If this was Mayor Mhler, he would have stopped you a half hour ago. So, I want to I want to be clear to everybody that I represent 15 houses on Florence Place because we are unbelievably affected more than anybody else in Rosemont. So, I set out to contact the administration, the police department, the mayor, and the council to help give us our quality of life back. They did what they needed to do and canvas the rest of of Rosemont. So, if the rest of Rosemont doesn't want it and they're okay with it, Florence Place needs it. There is oil stains. There are there's garbage the eye as far as the eye can see. We park our cars in it's this has much more to do with just uh freeing up parking for us. That's not the case here. The case is I'm talking quality of life and danger kids. So they they they told the zoning board that they were not going to have parties. I live on the street. I look out my window and I see 15 kids walking down the street with balloons and gifts. That's on top of the cars that came there to park. It is an absolute war zone. It looks like a carnival came to town. So many people are walking down Florence Place. They're moving out of the way for each other. Like that many people walking at the same time. So I, the person who was elected to to speak on behalf of my neighbors, we kept track. We took pictures. We we we we we took pictures of the K turns, the garbage, the oil stains, the kids that are going there. So at the end of the day everybody, Florence Place is the one who asked for it. They elected me to be their spokesperson. We absolutely need it. The mayor and council decided to canvas the whole area. Got an overwhelming response. So as far as money is concerned, I want you you to know that none of nobody from Florence Place is complaining about the nominal fee of $25. When you add when you look at a $25 fee versus versus the the residents asking for a tax appeal to say we're

going to ask for a tax appeal because we can't have any quality of life. We pay 12 13 14 $15,000 in in in uh in taxes. Our houses, believe it or not, on Florence Place are worth anywhere between8 and $900,000. Not with what's going on there. We wouldn't be able to give them away. So, $25 per car for us, that's nothing. And for those of you that are upset about the fee, I'll be happy to pay for you. All right, hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold on. I have a question. Is there anyone here? So, you're from Florence, please. I I saw people here from Orange. Is there any other street represented here? Elizabeth. Elizabeth. Okay. Anyone else?

Park. Park View. Okay. So initially it was discussed initially it was discussed to only address Florence and then the concern arose that those people would just move to Elizabeth. So then Elizabeth's going to get inundated. Then it was discussed to then someone brought up uh Rosemont because of the busing. So then that's how other streets got involved in this. So you know that's all being that was all being considered because if we just do Florence Elizabeth is the next block over. It's going to get it's going to get all the Florence traffic, right? So, he has a legitimate gripe on Florence.

Hold on, ma'am. And uh and Rosemont has the busing issue. Is Is anyone here from Rosemont? We also get the traffic. Yeah. So, I'm just asking, is anyone here from Rosemont? Yeah. Do you have the issue with the buses? [Music] Oh, you're on the other end. Okay. No, this doesn't affect you there. But Okay. Hey, I just want But Chief, doesn't the Doesn't the alternate side of the street parking go away with this? Yeah. After we Yeah, Magnolia.

Uh, we didn't we didn't discuss that. We We didn't discuss that. We wanted to see how this was going to was going to factor in, but I'm sorry. And I know she is understanding the gas station. Y is. So Orange has Orange has no issues. No issues. No. No. You have no issues with the businesses parking.

Mike, let's get this. Let's bring them up one by one and keep keep order. Uh thank you Jerry. We got point well served. Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't know why everything has to come to such a such a a a uh a fever's pitch. With all due respect to everybody, the police officer that went door to door, those who did not answer were left in their mailbox. The police department is the only one that could leave something in your mailbox. So my neighbor said to me, "Hey, Jared, look what we got." So they got it in their mailbox. So, either you answered the door or you got in your mail. Maybe you threw it out, but they did their due diligence. All right. Thank Thank you, Jerry. I got other people here. I just wanted to clarify. Yes, sir.

Howdy, everybody. My name is Christian Dval. I live on 81 Magnolia Street. Um I have a couple of problems with the uh ordinance as proposed. Primarily is the fee. The problem is affecting the residents of this community. It seems like an undue burden to be taxing them. Additionally, uh further, you said this is for uh signs and postage for the first year. Correct. Uh signs and postage is for the fees. Hold on. You said you live on Magnolia. This isn't going to be posted on Magnolia. Either way, it's still part of the community and I have neighbors on the some of the subsequent streets. So, I'm here to speak for them as well.

But, uh, signs and postage, we get the fee goes out, people get ticketed, that goes a revenue stream for the town itself. Does the program not self sustain itself at some point? Why does it It's illegal to consider uh summons, you know, summoning for for revenue. You can't. That's illegal. understood. In either case, the main concern is the money for me. So I understood you to say signs and posts. In other words, sign signed posts and this fellow apparently understands it as postage, right? I just signed posts for the paying the placards. I imagine the sticker units.

That's what we're talking about. Correct. So you're opposed to the cost of the signs and the post? Yes. I don't believe it should be how about the ordinance itself the parking should uh the businesses themselves have an issue they pull onto the addressing it isn't the issue the issue is that is an undue tax burden onto the already paying taxpayers okay so you would be against this ordinance as it as it sits that's correct okay thank you

thank you very much yes ma'am [Music] I see you brought that cane. I hope you didn't bring it to hit me with it. We better watch with this lady.

No, no, he he knows me. Um I'm My name is Sonia Wallish and I'm from on Elizabeth Avenue. I've lived there 45 years. Okay. Um I love my town. I used to live in another small town, Chadam. And when I came to um Elmont Park, I was delighted. It was a great town. Um my street has become a road rage, I must tell you. There is um in front of my house every day either a Mercedes, an Acura, sometimes um a very expensive car parked in front of my house all day long. This is not a resident. None of my residents have these cars. So that's somebody that's in a business that's up the street somewhere. I understand that they need parking. I understand that. But I don't think that they should take my parking space away from me by actually going into my driveway. Sometimes I can't even get into my driveway because they're parked too far over. So, there's something wrong with the whole system. We have alternate parking and we've been following this rule and you changed this a couple years ago making it to the other way around and it confused everybody in my my neighborhood but we resolved it and you took care of it. But we cannot be treated like this. We are already paying our taxes and we do it diligently. We've come to the the the mailbox over there and put our little money in there every quarter and I don't mind doing it because I love my town, but I don't want to be treated like I'm not important. If you charge me to get a permit, you should charge everybody in this town to get permits because there's so many people parking along the apartment houses and they're not going to be paying anything. There's cars there that probably are from the companies. So that's not fair. You can't treat me differently than you're treating everybody else. I think you should consider this. Thank you.

Let me ask you before you leave. Go ahead. So you're opposed to the cost of the uh ordinance? I'm definitely opposed to cost. How about the ordinance itself? What's your opinion on your audience? You have to figure out another way. Why don't you put meters? You can give the the people who live in in that section something to put on their car so they don't have to pay it and everyone else will pay on the meter. If if that's what you want to do to make money for the town, do it that way. This isn't a money thing. I know it sounds like it is, but it's not. It's a money thing. I'm sorry to say, mayor, I really think it is. Well, I won't allow allow that to happen. So, that rest your mind is sure. What's important here is that we need to to know how the residents feel about this ordinance uh tonight.

And I said, and our chief said that he had everyone get this. I did not get it. Neither did several other people here. Maybe they should have followed it up with a phone call. You know, we all have phones. We all have cell phones. You can leave a message. It's important. Get back to the police department. We have this survey, but you have to have filled out. I bet you you would have gotten a larger attendance that way. So, you should think about other methods of doing things. You can't always depend on people getting things in the mail because they're not going to probably read it as you said, but I did not get it. I'm telling you, I read my mail daily. That's it. Thank you, dear. Enough. Enough. Anyone else? Yes, dear. Yeah. With the black dress.

Hello. Hello. Um, I was not prepared to speak. I didn't really even know this was going on until yesterday from Facebook. Uh I live on Park View, but I live toward the Willow side. Um so I didn't really want to speak about actually I do oppose it. I do oppose the cost. I do oppose the ordinance. But my question is how are you going to collect the data to see if this trial is working? Because what I can see and what I see now is the people down at the end are just going to park over a block which is going to encroach on my block. So, how are you going to collect data that it's working?

Good question. Uh I'm sure we will figure a way out uh to do that and be accurate about it. Uh but I haven't an answer for you right now. Uh Mike, would you care to uh No, just so just to clarify, you're on the Willow. You're pointing towards Willow. This doesn't affect you. It doesn't now, but I can see because we have people down at the end of Park View. I think there's like a boarding house and they already park down on my block. So, I can just see people

Well, this is this is I think you're confused. This is for non-residents parking, right? So, people that are not a resident are we're trying to prevent them from parking in front of the homes when they visit the businesses. So, the residents have more parking, right? A resident's not going to park in front of your house, right? But the resident can park here at now as right. But my point is the residents who don't want to pay this will just pick up their cars and move down for this year to begin with. I mean that's pretty all right. Really? Yes. Really? All right. You don't think people will I I know so I do. Yes. All right. Does anybody else think people will just not?

All right. One at a one at a time, please. Thank you, dear. Someone else care to speak on this subject? Yes, sir. One at a time.

Hello, my name is Santiel Vasquez. I live on 78 Orange A. Uh, I never got the survey that uh what's your name again? Sorry. Uh, please.

Michael gave out that he said that Mr. Yeah, Mr. Fgo that supposedly uh he gave out to everybody on Orange A. Um well no he didn't do it personally of course he said that there was a police officer that came around to give a survey correct okay um and what was that number of people that responded again 48 of out of how many okay out of only 48 of 100 people responded to the survey I don't think that's enough people actually responding to the survey to get a decent like view of what people think about the overall ordinance I think that it should have been much higher considering you have to get a majority a majority vote here for example to get anything passed, right? Shouldn't shouldn't you get a majority vote on the ordinance as well to get it passed?

Right. Of majority of people that responded but not the majority of people that live there, right? Oh, there was only like 38 respondents out of like 100 something people. That's still if you take that into consideration, that's still a minority people that would want it, right? If if I was, for example, if a 100 of the people responded and only 38 agreed to it, that's still a minority vote. You still can't pass the ordinance under that, right? Right. Right. But but I'm saying like the people wouldn't have agreed to get this ordinance through anyways. Okay. Right. But I think that's understand I can understand your concerns on how it works. What's your opinion? That's what we need here.

I oppose I oppose the ordinance. I oppose both the function of the ordinance and the price of the ordinance. I think getting fined $100 for people that don't have the permit and like let's say I have friends come over and they want to park on the street something. Yes. If there was no, right? But there's too many people. Like I have like four friends come over. They don't all drive in the same car. So Well, they're all guests. Yeah. You only get two permit. You only get two guest permits. I can't have I can't give them what, like rip it in half and let them share it. Yeah. Let me ask you, if there was no fee involved, would you still be opposed to this? Yes, I still would be opposed to it. Thank you, sir. That's all we need. All right. Thank you. Next.

Yes, sir. There's one person we're not going to allow to speak and that's that child.

Thank you. I'm Brian Ciano. I live on 85 Orange Avenue and I again concur with many of the other residents who said that they never received notification of this. I found out about it from my neighbors and on Facebook. That's the only way we knew this was happening tonight to speak about it. Uh, I don't want to belabor things and drag this longer because we've obviously had a lot of opinions on this and I don't want to while there's obviously a serious problem on that one street and I feel for those people. I'm not trying to say this should not, you know, take care of them if they need that. We on Orange don't have that. The bigger problem on Orange honestly is the 80 ft you are going to take out of this ordinance for the businesses because people aren't supposed to park that close to the corner on either side and you can barely turn on to orange cuz people park illegally on both sides and push the traffic.

It wouldn't be it wouldn't be you still can't park close to the corner.

I know. But I'm saying the ordinance you already have isn't being used by the in anyway. So now you're moving it back to where the residents now have to pay to park in their own area. If you're It seems everything that this ordinance, well, not everything, but some things that are going on in this ordinance are going against what you are trying to do. To say that you're trying to create more spaces for the people that live there and then charge them to park there is the opposite. And then also to take the fee and have it at a higher level for one car and then drop it down the more cars you have seems to then create more traffic as well. That both that doesn't seem to jive both those. And I agree with the resident who you made the point that's it's definitely going to happen. We live on the side obviously of Orange that is going to be affected by this. If you drive down the other side of Orange, there is no alternate side parking. Often times you can't get down there. If someone's, you know, you can only go one at a time because both sides are filled up. You're going to create more havoc at that other half of the Rosemont area because anybody goes to Winnipeg, it's just going to go down there. when you people have people over, they're just going to make them park down there and you're going to create much more log gem down there and in the end have to do something in ordinance for that area as well, whether it's the same thing or otherwise. So, just seems to me the way that currently is written, it doesn't do what it's supposed to do. It does the opposite. And then, you know, you said the guest passes if you have if you have the uh the parking permit. We're lucky enough to have a driveway where we can park our car, so we probably wouldn't need that. But now if we have people come over, are we can we still get free guest passes or now are we charged for guest passes because we're not paying for resident passes?

Okay. So anybody know that answer? Mike, do you have an answer for that? If you don't pay for resident passes, do you get free guest passes still or how are you charged for those guest pass? Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, that seems like something that wasn't fully thought out as as we just pointed out how you're going to measure that. He's he's checking that.

I appreciate what you're trying to do for that part of the neighborhood and by all means help them out any way you can whether it's this ordinance or you know going after the businesses who are doing things they're not supposed to be doing like he's pointing out but it seems like to include everybody. I know your forethought was well they're going to move over move over but now they're going to move back and back too. It's not I don't feel like it's fully fleshed out right now the way that you're currently. Yes. You're opposed to this. I've currently written I am against it. Thank you sir. Anyone else care to speak? My name is Dear My name is Dearra Gilmore. Bring the mic down a little. Just a little bit. That fellow that was here was very, very tall.

Yes, he was very tall. He's my neighbor. So, I was only aware of this ordinance last week. I like most of my neighbors said, I did not get any kind of notification. Um, so it came to me as a shock when I found out about this ordinance. Um, I was very disappointed in mayor and council for not informing people. Uh, I got a registered mail referring to a business that wants to open up on Broadway, which to me, yes, it might affect me, but I live with it. I don't call the town on when people are double parked. people are always parked on the opposite um side of the road. But let me tell you that police department Chief Filign is very quick in giving us a ticket that I have been a member of this bureau for 38 years at we're not supposed to park after 8:00 in the morning. We're supposed to alternate. My husband's gotten a ticket at 8:05. Okay. Does that mean that your police officers are waiting there to give us a ticket? Another time he goes to change the cars and they're there to give him another ticket. So, have we complained? No. But this does annoy me. At one time, we had six cars registered my household. As some of you know, you know my children. I had four kids. They all grew up in Elwood Park. We were very very active in this town and the school system. So, you know, um maybe a lot of you don't know me anymore, but I used to be very active and I am very disappointed that this was not like I talked to quite a few of my

neighbors. No one knew about it. Okay. You're saying that it's going to be brought to the record and the Herald. Do each one of you have a membership to the Herald in the record? Every single one of you. Do you? It's a yes or no question. I don't know what you're talking about. We didn't say wever. I think you said that the ordinance is going to be record. It's going to be published in the record or the Herald. Is that not true?

Yes. the once it's introduced, it is published in the paper at least 10 days prior to the hearing letting everyone know. Um, but there is also you can also look at it online. Okay. But how am I supposed to look at online if I don't know about it? Why was it not put in the the community shopper that every person in Elput Park gets for free? I don't have access to the community shopper. I don't know who runs the community shopper. So,

so that's a product of what's called the uh open public meetings act that that notices are required to be published in certain newspapers at least until recent law changes but uh that's basically the process for any advertisement regarding meeting notices reading all ordinance that's how they are distributed and they're also available on the um the burough website I think but why would it be in the record and the Herald when because those are the designated newspapers excuse me those are the designated newspapers by law is there a way to change that so that the the community paper which everybody in Elmo Park gets. Frankly, I don't know that the community paper qualifies to meet the the requirements to satisfy the requirements of publishing under the law. Okay. But if it has to do with the Elwood Park community,

it's a state law. It's not specific to Elwood Park. Okay. So, is there a where an ordinance that you guys could maybe bring up that anything that has to do with Elwood Park? we'd have to designate them as a a another I don't know whether they would qualify, but the law is currently in flux because it's changing where it's moving away from publish publication on the newspapers and it's going to be all published online on the burough website and the uh the secretary of Let's get back to the issue though. Okay. In your opinion, are you against the cost? Oh, 100%. And and the ordinance 100%. Why should I pay to park in front of my house if

I have to pay that I think every single one in town should be paying for a parking permit and you know I on Facebook everybody was referring to Garfield. Well Garfield their parking permit is $10 for two years. Why is ours so high? That's also a completely different program because that's overnight parking and just that's just facts. That's okay. But still, why should like again why should the Rosemont section and only to Magnolia be targeted again as it is we have alternate side parking? Well, it's not targeting that's where we have the problem. So, well, that's what it feels like. Yeah, believe me, that's not the uh objective. And plus, you're going to make a lot of money off that. So, don't tell me that it's not a money maker. It is. It's not.

Okay. But it's not. All right. So, but I hear you. I hear you. So, is there a transparency where we can see how much money you take in? Absolutely. Sure, we could do that. But let's get to that point first. Okay.

And then also, uh I heard you say that um what was it that the quote unquote I heard earlier that you mentioned that uh that when it it has to do concerned citizens that you that were notified. Well, we're all concerned citizens here and we never Well, I'm sorry. I never got the notification and most of the people here never got the notification. So, Mr. Labzo, you said you got it. I talked to someone on your street that didn't even know about. Excuse me, dear. You have to address your questions to the mayor.

So, I went in and I and I was in a pizzeria and I happened to was telling the owner about it. He knew nothing of it also. And uh so I I guess he overheard me and you know I was telling him all the streets affected and he lived on what what was it Elizabeth? It was the corner by the pet store. The exotic pet store and he knew nothing of it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Wait. Are you finished here? You finished? Uh well if I do I mean is anybody else speaking?

No. Wait well no. I can't you can't take over the meeting. That's my job. All right. Yes. All right. So, yeah, I mean, I think most of my um fellow people that stood up said a lot of things, but let me tell you, I was sitting on my seat and I was extremely upset. Extremely upset from what I heard from you guys. You guys are not sympathetic and I am so sorry. When you say you guys, what are you referring to? May your mayor and council. We voted for you. To be fair, no one spoken yet on this other than the mayor. To be fair, we're listening to you right now. Isn't that enough? All right. So, the first meeting, how many people were here against this? Not many. Right. Correct.

Cuz we did not know about Okay, we got that point. You've established. Okay, that point is established here. You're just being redundant. Did you see the turnout for this meeting now? It's very considerable. Yes. And it and it it leaves a lot of questions. Good. I'm glad. So, it's something for you guys to discuss before you pass it. Absolutely. Because you, some of you are for reelection. Okay. So, just think about it when you guys decide to vote. Very good. Thank you. Thank you, dear. Anyone else? Yes, sir.

Jerry, is it really necessary? I mean, this this is

Hello, Mayor Mike Council. How you doing? My name is Wilbur Rodriguez. I live at 14 Florence Place. I'm not affected by what's going on here, but uh this survey that I received a while back for a oneway. It was from Willow to the highway. I heard that 40% of the people wanted it, a oneway. I said I couldn't believe it. So, I went out with a petition. I got 27 out of uh 47 houses to sign. No. If it's the same survey that you hand it out and and they got a phone like this, they can't they can't register a house phone. You can't do it. How come they didn't go to houses and have everybody walk around? I walked through those houses about four times till I got my 27 votes, you know, not votes, but you know. Anyway, uh the time you put down, I think it was uh 8 to uh 8:30, you got to have a sticker on your car to park. Why? Uh, I drove around this morning three times. From 8:00 to 4:00, most of the people are working. The not the the the roads are empty. Why can't we make it a little better for the businessman in the back? At least give him some time to sell something. You know what I mean? Uh, that's about all I want to say. I hope you uh consider that at least the

time for the guys. You know what I mean? And uh one more thing, how come we can't do anything on the on route 4 for parking? This the sidewalks are pretty wide. We can't cut into that somehow or do something. Maybe you could check into that. I don't know. Yeah, that's state property. you know, the rightway that would be infringing on the state property right away. Do you I mean, uh, people are parking on the sidewalks already, you know. Yeah. All right. Okay. Thank you. Till our next time we we share French fries. Yeah. That's okay. You got to make it short, dear. You had your time. This is for

I don't mean to be um just to do with the parking. So what is the rule for um from the corner like when you can't park like from the corner how many feet in? 25 ft. So then you said it was good sign. Pardon me. We changed it to 25. 25 ft. 24 stop sign. Now we changed the ordinance to allow for more vehicles to fit because we're out of we're out of room. So 25 corner and our stop sign is 20 ft. 20 ft

cuz it sometimes really hard for when we come and try to turn that corner and cars are like you when it's you know we park on the right side and cars are parked there and people are going across the four they don't always say to the left or whatever to the right so it's kind of orange so yeah so then yes and then the other Yes. Yes. Okay. And then just the other thing is so if you're doing 80 ft, it's only going to be really 55 ft then, right? You're talking about giving to the businesses, right? You still have that setback.

Okay. Yeah, that's it. All right. Thank you, Mayor. Before um if there's if there's no other residents that that want to speak, um I'd like to make a motion to table. Spare us. like to make a motion to table the the ordinance. Uh we still have one one more person that would like to speak and then councilman, you'll have your your moment. This will be the last person. Let's make sure it's on this specific ordinance issue. Yeah, this issue, not parking and other parts in town, please. I'm not talking about high

has nothing to do with the parking, but it does have to do with Governor Murphy's Senate Bill number 4654. We're only open for public on on the topic of this ordinance. You're talking about publication of these ordinances and where they get published. No, we're not. That's not what's this has pertains just to Florence Place. I know, but they're asking about publication. You're talking that it's and you want to make a comment on it. Go ahead. Make a quick Let's place. look into that Senate bill and ha and explain to the residents how they're going to be notified if this bill take effect this bill has taken effect.

Okay, that's all. We have a motion on from Councilman Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to table the ordinance. We got a second. Uh no discussion on the tableing. May I make a comment to Yeah, we've we've heard everyone here this evening. I'm sure there's some questions the council have about this ordinance, the fees, etc. We were going to take another look at this and see what we can come up with. And I just want to thank you all for coming this evening. Tried to be polite and courteous to everyone uh and give everybody a fair chance to speak. And u like I said, this will be tabled and for further discussion.

We have need a vote. Okay. Tabled by Councilman Folo, second by Councilwoman Troy. On roll call, we have council members Fello. Yes. Golg, yes to table. Samson, yes to table. Sheridan, yes. The table. Troy, yes. Council President Pellegrine, yes to table. Motion carries. Okay, the ordinance is tabled. Moving along. Yep.

Next, we have resolution R-235-25. introduce ordinance number 25-16 on second reading. Whereas a public notice has been given by the burough clerk that an ordinance entitled an ordinance repealing and replacing burough code chapter 21 shade tree to establish requirements for tree removal and replacement was introduced and passed at a meeting held on Thursday June 12th 2025 and that further consideration of this ordinance will be taken up at this meeting and whereas all persons interested in said ordinance were given an opportunity to be heard concerning the same. Now therefore, it be resolved by the mayor and council of the Burough Emma Park that an ordinance entitled an ordinance repealing and replacing Burough Code Chapter 21 Shade Tree to establish requirements for tree removal and replacement pass on final reading.

May I have a motion to open to the public? Anyone from the public here to speak on this ordinance and this ordinance alone? If not, I'll close the public portion. May I have a motion to adopt the ordinance? On the trees. On the trees. On the trees. On the trees. Okay.

I had one of those famous trees that was planted by the town about 5 years ago. Okay.

It was a beautiful tree. I love my tree. It was very pretty. It was a but it was hit by a truck by somebody that was working for the town and they were supposed to replace it and they never did. And then my tree fell down. But in between I was accused of having to have that tree pulled up. If if the town pulled up the tree, they would put it in my backyard and I can replant it for myself or they would just d dispose of it. I thought that was very unfair. You guys planted that tree for me in the first place. who gave me that beautiful tree, then it was hit by somebody from your department, whichever department it was, and then it fell down, and then I never got another tree. I think you have to think about it. They said it was too close to the curb. Well, they planted it originally too close to the curb. I did not plant it. So, I think that's something you have to really discuss with your your people that work on the

The ordinance has changed. You're talking about a tree that was planted in between the curb and the sidewalk. Exactly. that ordinance no longer exists. Now you have to plant beyond that. What's happening was that these trees that are planted in that location, as we can all attest to, no matter where you live, the roots grow. They pull up the concret. I understand that. I understand that. So if you put that tree back about 10 ft into your property, you're you're in safe. You can't do that because property doesn't have that type of space. But also, if you did that, you'd have to take all the trees on my street that have been planted that close to the curb. It shouldn't have been just my tree. No, they're grandfathered right now. Well, that's not fair. Well, we can't We're not going to go and kill trees. Just

Well, you killed my tree. My tree was knocked down. Well, I No, no, I feel very bad about that tree. I love that tree. I can't argue that. What? What? Well, I think you should really consider that when you guys plant trees in the future, you should make sure that they're correctly planted. Really, I'm really serious. Let me ask you, if we were to get you a tree and plant it off the I'd be glad if you get me a tree. Well, but you you got a what is it? 10 foot setback, Mike? Do we You'd have to go right into my front yard, plant that tree. Absolutely. I'll take a tree. Can we see if that's a possibility for this lady? I'll take a tree. That's not a problem. Get her address.

Got my address. 89 Elizabeth Avenue. I want to make sure I'm there when you're planting it so you don't do it incorrectly. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Okay.

Anyone else care to speak on this ordinance and this ordinance alone? If not, I close the public portion. May I have a motion on the ordinance? Second. Call the roll, please. First by Council President Pel Green. Second by Councilman Samson. On roll call, we have Council Member Fiso. Yes. Gabbec. Yes. Samson, yes. Sheridan, yes. Troy, yes. Council President Pellegree, yes. Motion carries.

Next, we have resolution R-236-25. introduced ordinance number 25-17 on second reading. Whereas a public notice has been given by the burough clerk that an ordinance entitled an ordinance repealing and replacing burough code section 20-1 and its subparts park athletic field and recreational facilities use policy to establish revised recreation facilities procedures was introduced and passed on a meeting held on Thursday June 12th 2025 and that further consideration of this ordinance will be taken up at this meeting whereas all persons interested in said ordinance will be heard concerning the same. Now therefore, a be resolved by the mayor and council of the burrow and park that an ordinance entitled an ordinance repealing and replacing burough code section 20-1 and its subp parts park athletic fields and recreational facilities use polic policy to establish revised recreation facilities procedures pass on final reading.

Motion to open to the public. Anyone from the public care to speak on this ordinance and this ordinance alone? If not, I'll close the public portion. May I have a motion to adopt the ordinance? So move. Second. Call the role, please. First by Councilman Fellow, second by Council President Peligine. On roll call, we have council members Fiso. Yes. Golabbeg, yes. Samson, yes. Sheridan, I'm going to have to abstain on this. Troy Z, I'm going to recuse. Council President Peline, yes.

Motion carries. Next we have resolution R-237-25 introduce ordinance number 25-18 on second reading. Whereas a public notice has been given by the burough clerk that an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending and supplementing ordinance 25-03 entitled an ordinance to fix the salary wage and compensation of the officers, employees, and servants of the burl of Elwood Park, county of Bergen, state of New Jersey for the year 2025 regarding full-time building inspector salary was introduced and passed at a meeting held on Thursday, June 12th, 2025. And that further consideration of this ordinance will be taken up at this meeting. And whereas all persons interested in said ordinance were given an opportunity to be heard concerning the same. Now therefore it be resolved by the mayor and council of the BM Park that an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending and supplementing ordinance 25-03 entitled an ordinance to fix the salary wage and compensation of the officers employees and servants of the bur of Elma Park County of Bergen State of New Jersey for the year 2025 regarding full-time building inspector salary. Pass on final reading. Motion to open to the public.

Anyone from the public care to speak on this ordinance and this ordinance alone? If not, I'll close the public portion. May I have a motion to on the resolution ordinance? Excuse me. Second. Thank you. Call the vote, please. First by discussion when you get to it. Okay. You want discussion? You want to announce it or do you want me to? No. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.

I'll discuss. Um, this is an ordinance to amend our salary ordinance for all the non-union employees in the in the in the municipality. Um, I'm going to be voting no. We adopted the majority of the council adopted a budget this year, double-digit tax increase. Then after adopting the budget, after allocating funds, we're adding yet another full-time employee. Unbudgeted. Numerous numerous unbudgeted employees. not unwarranted employees, but numerous unbudgeted employees being approved by this council year after year. After we adopt the budget, after we set the benchmarks for how much each department gets funded, we add and add. And this is why we're in the situation we're in, I believe.

Thank you. Thank you. Any other discussion? We have the motion. Call the role, please. First by Council President Peline, second by Councilman Samson. On roll call, we have council members. No no Samson. Yes. Sheridan. Yes. Troy. Yes. Council President Peline. Yes. Motion carries. It's that time again, huh Chenet? Almost. Moving on to our consent agenda. Yes.

We have the following resolutions. Resolution R-238-25, approval of payroll. R-239-25 approval of bills list R-240-25 authorized vacation buyback R-241-25 Award proposal for professional services alignment group for the FY2024 NJ DOT municipal aid program R-242-25 authorized current estimate number one change order number 1 2023 CDBG road improvement R-243-25 appointment of electric sub code official building department. R-244-25 amend recreation staff for the 2025 summer program recreation department. R-245-25 appointment of recreation department staff. R-246-25 resolution to redeem third party tax lean. R-247-25 resolution to refund tax exempt veteran. R-248-25 resolution to refund tax exempt veteran. R-249-25 resolution to refund tax exempt veteran. R-250-25 resolution to refund Riverwalk 3 LLC. R-251-25 resolution to enter into a one-year contract with DLK Consulting. R-252-25, a resolution requesting permission for the dedication by Ryder for Community Garden Trust Fund. R-253-25 resolution purchasing per pro procedure and New Jersey purchasing threshold approved by state of New Jersey effective July 1st 2025. R-254-25 approval to submit a grant application and execute a grant contract with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for funding from the FY2025 municipal aid program for the Mulla Boulevard from Route 46 to Hillman Drive decorative lighting project for $875,265.

R-255-25 renew liquor licenses for the 2025 2026 license term. R-256-25 approve block party request. R-257-25 approve handicap parking space Vivveny Street. R-258-25 resignation of firefighters and R-259-25 resolution to approve the consent agenda. May I have a motion on the consent agenda? Second. Any discussion? Call the role, please. First by Council President Peline, second by Councilman Folo. On roll call we have council members. Yes. I need to recuse on 258-25 and yes to the rest.

Golbeck. Yes. Samson. Yes. Sheridan. Yes. Troy. I'm going to refuse on R-258-25 and yes to the rest. Council President Peline. Yes. Motion carries. Next we have departmental reports. We just have one departmental report to be approved. is the board of health meeting minutes from May 12th, 2025. Motion to accept. So move. Second. Any discussion? All in favor? Okay, mayor. This concludes my portion of the meeting. I will turn it over to you for council reports.

Okay, let's change it around a little bit here. Let's start off with Councilman Tracy.

May Okay. Um my rec update, the summer camp um is going well. I think they've had two trips so far. They've got about 300 children um registered and um in cooperation with the board of ed um they were able to help the wreck with expanding their lunch offering. Um, so, uh, not only the younger children at the high school, but also the campers at the rec center will be, uh, receiving, um, free lunch. So, um, that's a great value for our families. They've also implemented a new proof of residency procedure for all sports programs beginning in the fall. This will be done by um uploading proof of residency through uh community pass. And for my board of ed update, the football field is currently undergoing the turf replacement. Um let's see. Hopefully, it'll be ready for the football season kickoff. And then I just also I just want to thank um Linda and the homeowners association again for their um generous donation. And I'd like to add um JC Promotions also gave us a donation for the garden in the amount of $500. So we received that this week. Um so uh thank you chief for working with Roy to facilitate the uh community garden trust fund. I appreciate it. Um I believe that is all I have. Thank you, mayor.

Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilwoman Sheridan. Thank you, mayor. Um, Sunday, um, July 13th, um, I was invited over to the, uh, VFW for the New Jersey Veterans Network. They had a pre-party. Um, Sunday Superman movie came out. So, they turned around and they had about 90 veterans and their families. We had like a little pre-party and then everybody went to go to Hawthorne to see the movie. Um, a lot of freebies were given out. I mean, we had a really good time. It was like a three, four hour pre-party, but we had a good time. So, I want to give a shout out to Doc for that. Thank you very much. Um, I also want to give a shout out um to our DPW Monday night, the storm we had Monday night into Tuesday. Um before the storm they turned around, they checked all the drains. They had everything like triple checked because we knew the weather was going to get bad. Um I just want to give a shout out to them. Great job. They actually had no complaints to DBW on Tuesday.

Wow. So yeah, surprisingly because you know there's always that one person that's going to call and complain. But, um, I just want to give a shout out to, um, our DPW, Joanie, Mike, the group. Great job. That's it, Mayor. We're getting better. I, um, I saw, I believe it was on, uh, Facebook that the doc is doing something with the movie and could you explain that test? That was Superman. That was it. It passed already. Superman. Yeah. And that's what you would You would Okay.

Yeah, that's Yeah, cuz we had everybody We had the pre-party, you know, they got their pizza, a lot of giveaways. We had like 80 people and then everybody um went over to the Hawthorne because he actually rented out the movie theater and everybody went there and it was it was great. I mean I didn't go see the movie because it was for the veterans, you know, but everybody had a great time. They really did. Doc's doing a great job. Innovating. I love it. Okay, let's see. Councilman Folo. Progress. Mayor, Councilman Golc.

Thank you, Mayor. I just want to address the residents of Rosemont that um that came out to speak tonight and particularly those that are still here. Um thank you for getting up and and and and speaking. Um it's, you know, doesn't happen very often that the council chambers get packed and people express themselves. Um in hindsight, the burrow um should have done more to educate you that this was happening. Um, ultimately at the end of the day, where this ends up is another story. But I I I recognize that as a councilman, um, that there, you know, there was more that could have been done. I have no doubt that the officer that was charged with this went to every home. I have no doubt that that was executed. I'm not even questioning that. And I don't take too much and, you know, I never got it kind of thing. I get I get stuff from the town, too, that I sometimes don't even fully open and I'm and I'm up here. So, it's just we live in this world now where we get so much clutter and crap that we we sometimes we miss the important things. Um, but I think, you know, more communication has to happen. I recall, and this is I mean, we're going over 10 years ago when the alternate side was put into place. It was the it was some residents of Rosemont. I can't get in and out of my driveway. I can't do this. I can't do that. That was a compromise to uh issues from from residents and it's it's been there. It's been in place. Um, very clearly there's an issue on Florence Place. I don't think many people could dispute that. I think our challenge now is how do we fix that problem without inconveniencing and annoying the rest of the neighborhood. I kind of feel like most people feel that way and uh we'll be working hard to uh to achieve that. What that will look like, I don't know because no one's been able to figure this out, you know, you know, for decades now, but that's what we're here for. So, I appreciate those that came on this subject. Um and uh until the next meeting. Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you, Councilman. Councilman Samson.

Oh, yes, Mayor. So last Wednesday I attended the planning board meeting here. Um the the subject that we discussed was redevelopment of a commercial warehouse on Slater Drive. This building was built in the 70s and it was originally built for the JVC uh television or electronics corporation was most recently occupied by a laboratory company and the building is in complete and total disrepair and is beyond um uh any kind of renovations. So, this uh it's going to to replace that building is going to replace that building is going to require um the creation of a redevelopment zone for that specific area. And um I'm very aware of the implications of that and we have to really uh do all our homework and uh really pay attention to creating that zone and what's going to go in that zone. And um mayor, I'm on it as you know and we're going to work together as a council and a planning board to make sure the right thing is done there. Uh Linda C, thank you. Linda Colbini as always. And everybody else, if you're uh if you like going to casinos and you're available during the day, see Linda. She has a next trip on 7:25. It's the last it's the fourth Friday of the month every month. And uh we have a great time. So uh it's a great trip and it's it's for a good cause as you could see. Uh the evidence of that was tonight. Uh some my other associations that I'm involved in the ARP meeting, the seniors met last Thursday. We had a good presentation by Hans. He's the um he's actually the branch manager here for Bank of America and he's also involved in bank fraud and uh senior scam uh detection and prevention. So, it was a very uh u excuse me, it was a very uh in insightful and informative afternoon and it was very good for our residents and just over 60 attendees. Uh Elks um our Elks Lodge here 192 Market right next

door uh Sunday um I'm sorry, our Sunday breakfast, the next one will be held on uh August 3rd. It's $10. The best breakfast you're going to have. Um, I know Dan cooks, tight cook, a lot of us all work together, Pam, Terry Reesi, and we all have a good time. So, we have a good time. We feed a lot of people, and it's for a great cause, mayor. Other than that, progress. And thank you. Thank you, Councilman. And getting back to uh that uh issue with the planning board, Eric, I think we to be wise, we got to insist that there's no housing involved in that

amongst other things and truck traffic. Uh we we like I said, there's there's a lot of homework that we have to do and uh a lot of investigation information that we need to to get. Elwood Park has, I would think, sufficient amount of rental properties in terms of uh apartments. Council President Peline.

Yes. Good evening, everyone. Thank you, Mayor. Our youth police academy 2025 will start on Monday, August 18th through August 29th. Tomorrow, July 18th, is the last day you can sign up through our community pass website. For any questions, comments or concern, please email officer Rivera at J Rivera Elwoodparknj. us. National Night Out will be held on Tuesday, August 5th. Location Barrow Hall. Start time 6:00 p.m. Free barbecue by our Elwood Park PD. Come meet and get to know Elwood Park's finest. Then at 7:30 p.m., our concert series begins. Performance by Daybreak, a tribute to Barry Manala. Now, I'd like to share some good news about Chief Feligno. We had our department head meeting today. And as a lot of you know, um the chief has been going through a lot with um he had cancer. And today we had the great news and we're very blessed to know that the chief is now cancer free. Yeah. The chief has been very transparent with all he has been going through and it's been several months and he has been to work every day. He has fulfilled his duties and we are so so glad and thankful to God that he is okay. So Chief, we love you and we're glad that you're cancer-free. Um, now on to my board of health. The meet the next meeting will be held on August 11th at 700 p.m. All are welcome to attend. Location is Barrel Hall. The new Elwood Park Chamber of Commerce next meeting will be on August 19th at 6:30 p.m. at our local VFW. They will be celebrating their first year

anniversary. Their next event will be best pizza contest. Save the date September 30th. All details will be posted soon. For any questions on the chamber, call 551-507810 or go to their website at info@elwoodparkchamber.org. Lastly, a big thank you to Linda Colombini and the homeowners association for all they contribute to our community. The new community garden led by Councilwoman Chrocey will be a great addition for our residents. I'm looking forward to seeing our new garden come to life. Progress, mayor. And if I could just say one more thing to add to Councilman Gullbec's um comment, we're glad that the residents came and voiced your opinion on the residents parking. We appreciate that. We're always willing to listen. Sometimes we can do things better. And you know, that's why we're here. We're here for you. We're here to listen to your concerns. I didn't like one comment from one of the residents when resident when she said we don't care. We do care. We don't do this job because we don't care. Okay. Is anybody up here perfect? Is anybody out there perfect? No. But we try our best to resolve problems. And sometimes it's a juggling act. You make some happy, you make some very unhappy. Right? So the right thing to do, this is the forum where you're supposed to come and voice your opinion. And we never, the mayor and council never stops anybody from voicing their opinion. Sometimes what we get mad at, or I should speak for myself, is when somebody tells me, "I don't care." Okay? We put a lot of hours into this. Yes, you elect us. We care. That's why we do this job. It's not for the money. Okay? So, that's why we do this. So, I just don't appreciate comments that we don't care because we do care. And you coming to these meetings when there's a concern truly makes a difference. You can see it was tabled. We'll go back to the drawing

board. We'll see if we can make both sides happy and see if we can get this resolved. So, your voices were heard and we will work on this and hopefully we come to an agreement that we can all live with and be happy with. Thank you for coming again and thank you, mayor.

Very well said, Lorraine. Uh that's uh that's a topic that Florence Place and four that's been an issue has been said here for 25 years. The 25 years I've been here has always been an issue and we're looking for the perfect fit. Uh there was a push on this ordinance here brought it to this point. But the great part of this country and our system is that you're allowed to speak. As Lorraine had said, you're allowed to bring your voice forward and it counts. What was the outcome of this evening? That ordinance was stopped dead in its track. It's going back to the drawing board. We're going to have to analyze it, reconsider it, and your opinions tonight brought us to that conclusion. And and to Lorraine's point, uh we do care. There's uh a thousand other things we could be doing sitting on a on a Thursday evening uh other than this, but we love it. And that's what Well, I don't know if we love it, but uh we we like it very much. So, we do care to your point, Lorraine. Uh with that said, I think we should have a motion to open to the public.

Second. Would anyone from the public here to speak on any subject they want to? You're not isolated just to one. I think you guys are aware of this. We've been having a problem. And the microphone, please. Can you turn on the mic and then state your name and address, please? Okay. You her her sister. Oh, yeah. Oh, you want to pass that out? Yeah. Go ahead. Pass it out. Take the mic down there. Bend it down. Down. Okay. Yeah. Better. Yeah. Yeah, that's better.

Um, we've been having a big problem. It started last year when the property was sold. Um, and you'll see in our portfolio the problem. They're they're very disruptive of the neighborhood. This is U Route 46 where the old Victorian used to be 63. It's 63 Birchwood. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah.

I think I think this pamphlet that our neighborhood put together is very uh informative and it should be addressed. It's becoming not only a nuisance and a disturbance but also a health issue. They have a uh porta pora body porter. Let me give him a little background. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. To give you a little background. Chief Feligo is already aware. I'm sorry. To give you a little background is already aware.

Um the woman who owns the home at 63 Birchwood has been renting her pool out, which is against municipal code chapter 18- 8 through10. and she advertised it on a swimpley um.com. Uh she's had several times the uh Lenny who lives right next door to her uh he's had to call the police several times uh because they have parties. The other day, a few weeks ago, it was till 3:00 in the morning and the chief has sent people out there many times and their hands are tied because the ordinance isn't very clear because she has a portaotty in her driveway. Wow. Mhm.

And the building department, from what we understand, normal code in most towns are you have to have a a permit for a portaotti, right? And it's not clear in our municipal code. So So just to cut you off, that was actually one of the ordinance that was the first reading tonight.

Yes, that's what I was going to say. I understand that it's coming up on the August 21st meeting, I believe, was read. So we understand that that's already being addressed. But as far as the police officers, their hands are tied because the code as far as the rentals and deciphering is it a rental? Is it cuz she'll she told the police the first time, oh, they're my guests and they weren't cuz we have the advertisement from Swim Police showing that she actually rented it and it shows that she rented it. So, it was like us against her, but that, you know, the police can only do so much. But as far as um these advertisements on these websites, is there any way that the town attorney can notify the ones that we're aware of that hey, don't let people uh post on your website for this particular burrow because it's not allowed. It's illegal.

Can I address? Yes. So, thank you for coming. Um so, as I have the email here, as of Monday, we issued four summones to them already. We have been in touch with Swimply and we asked them to remove it. She and they did. Yeah. And and they did take it down. I don't know how she keeps getting it put back up. Um but she's been told she was given a cease and desist letter. She's been issued four summones. She doesn't seem to care. No, she doesn't. So, we have to get her before the judge. I already instructed the prosecutor to please consider because sometimes these get merged into uh one violation for the court to move things along. I already told them the backstory. M

and asked the prosecutor to let the judge consider having them as all standalone violations. And we will continue to issue summones as the violations occur. I can tell you this, we had one of these last year and the year before. They don't go away easily because they make a lot of money and they're willing to pay the fines, right? Um so bear with us. We will we will issue summones every single time. But according to municipal code, it says the first summon is I believe $1,000. The second one is 1,250. The third is possibly removal of certificate of occupancy, 90 days in jail, and $1,250. She's already had how many summons? Well, none of them went to court yet.

Yeah. So, I mean, she's the police have been there so many times in just in the past few weeks, and you could see how many reviews she had. So, you know, she had multiple parties already that are recorded in

into the morning hours. Yep. I mean, very disturbing. And so I think our municipal code and the laws and the capabilities of the police need to be distinctly outlined with the words shall. So the police shall do ABC. How do you verify? How do you do this? How do you do that? So it doesn't keep continuing with the same residence and having to wait until they go to court. And for somebody who had it taped right to her door, we saw the officers tape it right to her door. She just took it off. The first one went in the mailbox. She just never opened her mailbox. There was mail overflowing out of her mailbox to avoid these kind of things. So the ordinances and the codes, the laws, whatever way you want to say it, has to be changed to stipulate that regardless if she decides to not open her mail, this is the first notification that you are breaking the law. This is the second notification when they come back. This is the third and that counts as you with each fine. It shouldn't have to go in front of a court. So, so if I can interrupt you, it does have to go before a court because she still has due process rights and I know it's frustrating, but but the the court process is one of the requirements. We can't cut that out. We can't just say you are guilty and therefore you're being charged. The the court process is a requirement uh under the law.

How long do you think that'll take? Yeah. So, I mean, we can't My my wife loves to read. Lenny's son loves to read. They can't even sit out on their back porch to read because the noise from and the I mean I know marijuana is legal, but when you have 40 people smoking pot and it comes into your yard and you don't want to be out in your yard cuz all you smell is I mean it's because of the party I'm right on her back back. Listen, you you seem very astute about the law, but you understand we have to take proper steps. Of course, the law is the law.

We can't put the town in jeopardy and open ourselves up for a suit. On the other hand, we can revisit uh correct me if I'm wrong, the ordinance and see if we can put a little more teeth in it. It was just redone. Yeah. Yeah. So, so listen, we hear you. We We feel for you. If I live there, I'd be losing my mind. We're aware of it. We're on it. We'll do everything we can in our power to make sure that this gets handled appropriately. And you know, like I said before, we just ask for your patience. I know that's hard to ask when it's such a nuisance and a quality of life issue, but we're doing everything everything we can. Well, the other issue with this

No, it's okay. There's a lot when she has these giant parties.

When she has these big parties, she has numerous bags of garbage. So, she only has two cans. They're up near the portaotti. And then there's another 10 bags, which you could see if you look through the photos. Um, she just leaves them on the curb for days and days and days. Now, the ordinance says you shouldn't put them out till after, I believe, 5:00 p.m. the night before. Well, they're there for 4 days sometimes and there's no uh can for the bags, so the animals are getting into it and it's getting all over our street. And we're pretty proud of our block. We take care of our property. We keep it very clean. You know, we try to look out for each other. We've even picked up her garbage for her. But now it's to the point where it's copious amounts. It's not fair to us to have to live like that.

Can I ask you, are they are they new to the neighborhood? I'm sorry. Is that is that Are they new to the neighborhood? She's been there about 5 years. Is this something new that's occurring like with all these other No, she's done it before, but we kind of like just like, okay, she had a baby. You always make excuses for people cuz you try to be kind. You try to be considerate that maybe there's things in their life we don't know about. So, you try to help them out. But now it's to the point where she doesn't care about us, but we care about her and we care about our neighborhood. So, can they send a notice saying, "Hey, you need to abide by the code for the trash at least or something?"

Yeah, what we'll do is we'll we'll try to get a meeting with them uh with some of my command staff and the building department and see if we could encourage them to, you know, get with the program. You know, I mean, we're going to still issue the summones, but maybe a sit down with them would would go would go a long way. Absolutely. Mike, here. No recycling by her. None. You'll look at every house on my block and everybody has a blue cat or two or two hers all together thrown on the thrown in between the the road thing.

I pick it up. I I got I live next door. I got to put up with this. Okay. And the other thing is this thing with this simply. Okay. Now that's soft and I thank you very much for getting that down. There was schedules on Sundays. Okay. So this is her new plan of attack. Okay. She rents that pool from 3 to 11 knowing after 11:00 it's going to be quiet. Okay. And they say, "Oh, we're friends." Oh, yeah. Well, everybody that goes to a barbecue brings their own propane tanks with them, right? Every time.

Every time. Actually, we even got some of the the patrons to send us the the information that she told them, instructed them to say that they're family. So, we got it. We got all the evidence we need. We're just waiting for it to go to court. Yep. I mean, I lived there over 50 years. Yeah. 50 years I lived there. I have never had a neighbor as disrespect. I welcomed her to the neighborhood when she was pregnant. I carried strollers and freaking bassinets, groceries and cribs into the house for her. And this is what I get. The other thing is the neighbor next door to her on the other side. That family just moved here.

Yeah. He didn't know. He just moved. Can you imagine moving next to that? Yeah. Yeah. He's a nice guy, too. What do you think they're going to say about Elwood Park? Well, I could assure you that first of all, you know, we're aware of it. You know, we're on top of it and we will continue. Please call every time it happens and Yeah. You want us to keep calling? Yes. Yes. She threw a water bottle. No. Call me. Call us. Call us. The cop was right there. Saw it. She just I I asked over the fence. I said, "Can you please at least tone it down? If they throw lint on the street, call us. Call us for everything." The last The last big party she had. This is what broke This is the straw that broke Kale's back. I woke up the next morning. I found cups. Mhm.

I found people throwing up in between my car and my house. I'm like, I got to wash this down. She flushes her pool filter. I don't think she's doing it right because you got to see the white mark that goes all the way down the block all the time. Yeah. Okay. I got to smell this porta potty now. It's been there over a month.

Yeah. Two months. Uh the other thing is I want to bring up and uh this is like the first thing is that she has a retaining wall and I have pictures of it. I'm trying to get somebody from the building department to come. Now I'm not going to mention any names, but I know people in the building department, okay, and we're friends and they I don't know if they just forget or whatever, but I'm getting run off from her house. I know she I know numerous times she has left her permits for work that she's done. Okay. I know she raised the elevation in her backyard around the pool with pavers again cuz it was concrete and raised. I'm getting all her water run up. There's no gutters on her house. My basement gets flooded every time we have heavy rain.

I mean, tell me your address again. 67 B. You're 67. All right. Well, I'll get the building department out there. All right. All right. Tell them here's here if you want to give uh you know Tony I don't know if Tony's back you want to give him the pictures of they say retaining wall or landscape wall whatever it is but that's what's falling apart. And the other thing is termites. I had to call terax in for termites because you could see the termites swarming in the wood. That's her wall. That's her wall up against my fence. Okay. Thank you. Uh, thank you very much. It's it's really, you know, I take I take

everybody in the neighborhood is the nicest people you want to meet, you know, and everybody likes their stuff neat. And there's, like I said, you miss John being there, Harris. Huh? John, I know John very well. I knew his whole family. Johnny lived across the street from me. I know where he's at in Connecticut. I know where he is in Manhattan. I go by it all the time. We got you. Take One more thing, too, is when when she has all these parties or even invites other people over, they get out of their cars, and you can see it in the pictures. They're on his property. They're standing on his front lawn. Yeah, it's a mess.

Like, there's a picture. There's like eight of them on the front lawn. He's probably looking at it right now. And it's disregard of anybody else, disrespectful, and she doesn't care. So, like you said, you know, going to court that these people rent this. He has a liability for that though if they get hurt. Any clue of what? No. You know what I'm saying? They don't care about what they're doing. I see him walk because there's four cars in your driveway. So, don't walk over to my property. Walk on my sidewalk and walk down my driveway cuz they're single cars and go down. I mean, just leave and be quiet. Whenever whenever anything's going on there, call us. Please call us so we know. All right,

Bill. Uh, Lieutenant Woods is going to talk to you guys on the on the way out just to get some more info and uh we'll take care of it. All the power all the power we have we will uh put into force. Yes, Glattis. How are you?

Glattus Chrisquitz, 256 Pensac Avenue. I just um wanted to know if this was just happening in my area or a lot of other areas. Um in the last, I'd say month and actually two incidents in the last week. I had a man, an older man, um he was sitting on everyone's property, you know, and he looked funny to me. So, I called the cops. I don't really like to call the cops, but I called the cops. And um he actually passed out. Um they had to take him away by ambulance. Um I don't know what happened to him, but then Monday I'm driving from my house. I made a left towards Market Street. There's a dentist and then there's the overpass. And like right before the overpass, there's a split level with a nice piece of grass. And there was a guy, an older man, you know, he had a cardboard box under his head and he was asleep. So Dana looked at me. I says, "I'm not going to call the cops. you know, it's hot, you know. So, when I came back, there were four cop cars and an ambulance taking him away.

And then, um, my sister was gardening. Thank god my husband was out um cuz we we're diagonal where we live. And this guy, and I watched him on the camera, he kept walking back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. So, my husband, I don't know if he noticed, but he did. This guy came right up to my sister's top stairs and said, "Do you have money?" So, my my husband went right over and as soon as my husband went over, he just he took off. So, you know, I'm three blocks in from 46 New Jersey Transit bus. Like, I don't know if they're just getting off here or are there a lot of transient people in this neighborhood now? Because it's, you know, Fencac, you know, you can get out the back to 46. It's like it's a prime area for crime. I know the 7-Eleven's been held up many times. Um, but I'm just concerned because like I don't feel comfortable going out anymore. Like I have a metal pipe that when I do my gardening cuz you know you get up you you look around and there's someone's right on top of you now. Like today it's it's 100° and there's a guy riding a bicycle with a thick black hoodie. I couldn't see his face, you know. So that's suspicious to me. So, what I'm asking, I guess maybe is to have a little bit more um

patrolling, police patrolling around during the day. Not so much at night, but during the day. Yeah. So, thank you. Point well taken, Glattus. Anyone else care to speak? If not, I will close the public portion and then I think a motion to go on executive and I will request a motion to go into executive. What's what's on executive? Well, once we get there, we'll find out. Well, usually for the public to announce, so I'm inquiring. Executive. Attorney client.

Attorney client. I think it was the question that you raised on the attorney client with respect to guess conflicts of interest characterization. So move need a second. Second. All in favor. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. It's been a heck of a night.

Whereas the open public meeting act PL 1975 chapter 231 permits the exclusion of the public from a meeting in certain circumstances. And whereas this public body is of the opinion that such circumstances presently exist. And whereas the governing body wishes to discuss turning client privilege information minutes will be kept. And once the matter involving the confidentiality of the above no longer requires the confidentiality, then the minutes can be made public. Now therefore, it be resolved that the public be excluded from this meeting. Oops.