City Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, June 16, 2025
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
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Fishers, IN
Meeting Date
June 16, 2025

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2:22 – 4:220

to the flag of the United States of America to the stands nation for all. Well, thank you, Council President Peterson. By the way, I might want to check your microphone. Make sure that's on. There you go. I typically don't need one. I know. There you go. Well, uh, thank you for giving me the opportunity tonight to recognize a key leader here in the city of Fisers. Uh most of the time you would see him up here celebrating one of his employees and their accomplishments in their tenure at the Fisers Police Department. But tonight uh we're uh we had the opportunity to recognize Chief Ed Gart for 25 years of service to the city of Fisers. Just to give you an idea of what 25 years of commitment to public safety in the city of Fisers can encapsulate, this is an individual that came from out west here to uh Indiana and uh started in our patrol division uh and then worked his way up to uh training and recruiting. So he's, you know, he has his thumbrints on not only his own career but on an awful lot of other careers here in the Fischer Police Department and then took a giant leap forward and became our uh patrol commander. So, if if you know much about the police department, one of the most demanding jobs, as Major Jones will tell you, uh right now, and Assistant Chief Taylor would tell you from a couple years ago, uh is being over the patrol division. Every day, 24 hours a day, there are, you know, several dozens, 50, 60, 70, 80 police officers that need your attention at the beck and call, as

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well as 100,000 residents. Uh Chief Ed Gart took that jump from a sergeant all the way up to patrol commander which is a major major leap and he excelled in that role ultimately be becoming the assistant chief of the Fiser Police Department and then ultimately our police chief and I've had the honor to work alongside him now for the better part of uh six years now Ed as police chief. Um, and let me tell you, one of the challenges I gave Ed when he became the police chief is I said, "I have unfair expectations of our department heads. One, you have to be a leader within your department. Two, you have to be a leader within the organization. And three, you have to be a leader within the region or the state." Um, and if you look at how he's led his department, I think the men and women that work there would attest to him being a leader to his own department. Two, uh, I think unequivocally he's a leader among his peers and department heads in our organization. And three, he's really become a leader throughout central Indiana and throughout the state on things like crime guns, uh, and really creating the Crime Gun Intelligence Center. I mean, everywhere you look, uh, Ed's put his thumbrint on a variety of different initiatives, and we're safer and better for it. And so, I I want to thank Ed from the bottom of my heart for all the work and commitment he's had. And I want more importantly want to thank Amy, his wife, who's here, and her commitment uh to allowing him to to spend as many hours and as much time as he has uh committed to the safety of our residents. So, without further ado, Chief Ed Gart. [Applause] Pacers. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Ed, for your service. Appreciate it. Okay, now you can leave and go watch the Pacers.

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Mayor's Youth Academy, class of 2025. Looks like it's going to be Ross. No, I thought it would be Scott. Well, so I I will take a moment here and just tell you that uh each and every year we have the mayor's youth academy, which I'm very very excited about. uh these folks have to sharpen their pencils and and really sharpen their minds about how to articulate public policy positions. So each meeting after they learn about a particular area of uh public sector, they're then posed a public policy question and they have to um argue basically what their what their stance is. This group excelled above all others in their position on a variety of different fronts. And so they were given the opportunity to come up with something that they would like to advocate for to each and every one of you. So uh let's hear what they have to say. Level's okay on the screen. Yep. Okay. Nope. You guys are good. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So as the mayor said, we are members of group one from the mayor's youth academy. And my name is Zoe Newell. I'm Ryan. And throughout the past year, every month, we've come together to visit and learn about different parts of our city government. And following these visits to places like the firehouse, police station, and different charities, we were asked to answer a policy question related to each place we visited. Okay. So, we came up with this idea for a zipline following our visit with the Fischer Department of Public Works. And our policy question asked us to envision a third place for Fischer's residents. And our final idea was a zipline. This idea is inspired by one of our group members visits to a zipline in Eagle Creek, something that he very much enjoyed. And so a zipline in Fischers would be a fun, interesting, and new way to get residents outside and participating in their community. And zip lines are appealing to uh residents

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of all ages, something that was was a priority for this question and something many people probably not gotten the chance to experience. Getting involved in the outdoors provides a great way to relieve stress and take some time away from screens and technology. And additionally, the zipline can serve as a way for families, friends, and workplaces to come together and develop their communities through different activities. Uh so our zipline works to continue Fischer's vision of a strong vibrant city that supports and uplifts its residents through its development in our city through using our parks and um yeah. So why White River? White River is the latest addition of Fischer's long list of parks, making it a great option for the zipline for our zipline facility. The park has all the space and land needed to construct the required infrastructure and create a fun space for the community. Plus the river or the plus the river and landscape of the park creates a relaxing atmosphere to better which in turn betters the mental health of the visitors. The environmental issue that comes along with building up White River has has been discussed and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Now, we came up with two options to fund and build the zipline. The first option would be the city and currently cost of $2.1 million to create the zipline facility through a company like Go or Skyline Ziplines and this would cover management and operation of the facility. This allows total control over prices, staffing, hours of operation and rules of the park. Now, why should you go with this option? The system can manage the ticket prices. Ticket prices can be at a cost that covers maintenance and operations, and it will incre increase accessibility and community benefit. Why should you choose this option? Well, the city won't make as much profit with cheaper tickets. However, by surrounding zipline with other amenities, profit can still be made. The zipline conflicts will bring the community together, especially appeal to the teenage demographic that

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we're trying to target with this program. Now, option B, our second option is to contract a private company to build and manage the zip line at the White River Park. While this option might is not as appealing as the city loses some control over the facility, it removes having to foot the $2.1 million bill as the outside company would be responsible for the zipline and the city would just have to lease out the land needed to operate it. Now, why should you choose this option? The city have to incur any costs for the zipline. Therefore, having to not care for the maintenance or shaft costs of the facilities. And on top of that, the city would have to get some money would not get some money for leasing the property. Now, why should we not choose this? The cost for admission for our residents would rise as we as the city would not have control over the costs of the zipline to access it, which undermines our goal to get the youth to act the youth to interact more each other. And what happens with this option? Fisers won't make as much money if a private company owns the facility, but it will spur more economic development than if the city were to own the facility. Thank you for your time. Enjoy us on this exciting. Thank you. Any questions? Ron, did you guys investigate the liability insurance for this? Yes, we did. zipline and also if you look uh we listed some companies like go and skyline zip lines they provide uh annual inspections to make sure that the zip lines stay up up to date with their maintenance and safety checks. Any other questions from council? I want to tell you I I told the mayor to put it on the sledding hill when we built the sliding hill I don't know how many years ago. I said that'd be a great place for a zipline. By the way, I love your idea. I think it's awesome. I don't know which way you want to go, but I think it's a

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great idea. And then uh as time went on, we figured White River State Park would be better. Now that it's we didn't have the White River State Park when we when I told him to go build it where he did. So, I like the location for you guys as well. So, thank you. Yep. Thank you for your presentation. Thank you. Thank you for also being part of that mayor's council. Hopefully, you found it beneficial. Thank you. Great job, everyone. Thank you. And then we have a student recognition. Uh yeah, I'll tee this one up. So uh as you well know, council, uh students from Fischers High School and HSC High School graduated earlier this uh month as they get ready to set foot across the country and make their mark uh in the world. Uh we want to recognize one student specifically. So I'm going to ask Lworth, the chair of the uh Fishers Armed Service Commission, to actually introduce Jonathan Tanganger a little more, please. Mr. Chair, good evening. Jonathan, as you know, you're here on the fast and your mentor for the three past years with West Point Rivers isn't here tonight, although he wanted to be here. in Florida with his wife taking care of dance studio life in Orlando. But he asked me if I would say a few words to you tonight in front of the city council and the public as our way of expressing thanks to you for your service to not only the but this read to you. He starts off with football and he says to R Rotary for students to working at CBS. Jonathan, you've been a star, and I'm so proud to have been afforded the opportunity to work with you in your pursuit of the United States Military Academy at West Point. With your

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determination, energy, and credentials, you were a no-brainer for the academy. I just had to check in on occasion and keep you a breast of the deadlines, which you generally met without him. For that dedication to duty, you not only received an early letter of acceptance, but the first offer of admission in the state of Indiana to West Point. It was a major accomplishment for you and your parents, of which you should be extremely proud. Based on this early performance leading up to the academy admission, I have no doubt that you will not only report on time the end of this month, but you will absolutely crush beast barracks and earn an early recognition. leadership role in the plea class for the academic year. So Eddie continues, "Welcome to the start of a long gray line. By the way, he's online tonight watching you." And he'll see you in September at the 45th class reunion of my 1980 graduation in commissioning. And then despite my hesitation, he says, "Go Army, beat Navy. [Applause] One final thing as you know because you were here when we start from armed services that I privately present to you as chair of the armed services commission and the city congratulations Thank you for your service to this city. You must be very proud.

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Yeah, that's absolutely terrific. What a huge deal. Congratulations, young man. Best of luck. Okay, as we move on to our council committee reports, finance committee, John, thank you, Pete. The uh finance committee met last Wednesday and uh we recommend for approval tonight item 7B on the consent agenda on the regular agenda, item 8, item nine and item 10. Um, in addition, we discuss the uh upcoming budget uh for this year, which will have some twists and turns due to Senate Bill One, how it will affect our community. But, uh, as usual, I I'm very confident that we will come out with a very strong bud budget and in a very strong financial position. So, uh, that is our report. Thank you, John. Uh, health department report is online for anyone who wants to read it. Uh, moving on to the consent agenda. Do we have a motion? Motion to approve. Second. Have a motion and a second. Do we have Bill Stewart online? Yes. Then we have two. Okay. Bill, you're online there. Okay. So, we're going to have to do roll call on this stuff. So, even on the consent agenda, too, Chris, take consent by consent, then take the rest. Okay. So, I have a motion and a second for the consent agenda. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed? Okay, we'll move on to regular agenda items. Number eight, Lisa Bradford. Hi, Lisa Granford, city controller. Uh, I'm going to talk about items eight and 10 because they related to the Great Eagle project. So, for your reference, item eight is the final step for approval of the Great Eagle Tax Increment Financing District. So approval of item eight will create the district and allow the capture of the tax increment financing. And then item 10 is the first reading for the

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bonds that will be issued pursuant to the development agreement with Grey Eagle. And those are not to exceed $7 million and that is related to debt that will be issued by the city but purchased by Grey Eagle. So, Grey Eagle is on the hook for the actual payment of the bonds, not the city. And then I'm gonna have Megan Bobartner tell you a little bit more about the project agreement and kind of the timing to refresh everyone's memory. Thank you. So, Grey Eagle, this first came to city council in 2021 as the original project. So, this is at the intersection of 126th Street and Cumberland Road. Um, this is a partnership between Grey Eagle Golf Course and JC Hart. Um so JC Hart is building approximately 155 uh age targeted units at that development corner. So it's a mix of uh traditional apartment multif family but then also shared patio homes and duplexes um within that development. It's a unique relationship because uh part of the existing driving range today will actually be repurposed and used for the um JC Hart project. So the um the way that the tiff is captured in here as well and this is related to item eight is there's actually two different parcels that are being created. One for the golf course itself and then one for the multif family itself as well. So those two allocation areas are then what we'll be able to capture tip for and issue those two different bonds. So it's actually approving uh a two different potential bonds. one for the clubhouse itself um for no more than $750,000 and then up to $7 million for the multif family itself as well. Um Lisa's right since these are developer purchase bonds the city isn't on the hook for any of those. Um there were no other incentives that were provided as part of the project. Uh they anticipate closing in July on all of their financing including their construction loans and then

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commencing construction on both the clubhouse which will be torn down and rebuilt. um from the images that you've probably seen over the years since this came back in 2024 and went through the entitlement process at that time as well as the multifamily commencing at that time as well. So happy to answer any questions um related to the project or towards uh the two items that we're asking for consideration. We're going to start construction this year. Yes. Okay, for sure. Yes. Thanks, Megan. The only corrections on Brooks School Road, not Cumberland Road. Oh jeez. I'm sorry. Yes. the uh any that's okay. Any other questions for Lisa and or Megan? I'll make a motion to approve. John makes a motion. There's a second. Second by John. Okay, we'll do a roll call vote. Peterson. Yes. John. Hi. John. Hi. Hi. Fred. Yes. Selena Stler. Yes, I Bill Stewart. I passed. Thank you. And just for the clarification, we do have the two items for that. So, um, first reading. Yes. So, I'm going to I'm going to skip to item 10 right now and ask for a first reading. [Applause] John gives it a first read. Second. And we had a second. I don't think we needed one, but that's okay to get one. I think we're on item nine, Lisa. Right. Yeah. Okay. So, the item before you is a resolution for a petition to the Department of Local Government Finance. As the council is well aware, we have at the city of Fisers been involved in a very long discussion related to local

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income tax and how local income tax is distributed in Hamilton County. So on May 6, 2025, House uh bill 1427 was passed, which allows uh counties with at least four municipalities with a population greater than 40,000 uh and applying some other language related to maximum levy computation to the excuse me, lowest turning percentile for the rest of the state to petition to the Department of Local Government Finance. to increase their max levy. This does not increase any tax rates. This does not change anything related to what anyone is paying. What it does is allow the city of Fisers to increase their max levy, which allows us in turn to therefore capture more local income tax. As John alluded to, House Bill one was passed which changes property tax. This will allow us to increase our local income tax but change any effect to taxpayers. Happy to answer any questions. Any questions for Lisa? Hearing none, I'll go ahead and take a motion. Motion approved. Motion by John, second by Selena. Jennifer. Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Yes. John Wangard. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Dramer. Hi. Selena Stler. I Tiffany Diplon. I Bill Stewart. I motion passes. Thank you, Jennifer. Megan. Yes. Um, so a few economic development items tonight. Um, the first one is related to three items on here. Um, so I'll provide a bit of an overview of this exciting new company that we're bringing to our life sciences industry

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and then talk about the three different items related to that. Uh, so Mayor Fis and I were both approached by um 111 group through a local Fisers contact who said, "Hey, I've got somebody who's interested in bringing their life science company here to Fischers a few months ago um and had a great connection and conversation with uh Darren and his team um on relocating 111 to Fiser. So 111 is a California based company. They relocated from San Diego to come to Fisers. um they specialize in compounding far or compounding uh peptides. So they are starting their business as a compounding pharmacy. So that is taking different elements and uh different materials that are manufactured off-site combine or combining them all into one single drug and then distribute them that way. What's really exciting about 111 is that they're going to do vertical integration with the compounding pharmaceutical side of the house. So uh they will have an e- health um service that will be within this facility as well so they can help uh navigate with patients through this journey of whatever their compounded uh drug might be. They also plan to eventually expand and be able to uh manufacture the peptides themselves. So really really exciting growth plans that 111 and Darren and Lori who are both here tonight um can can talk a little bit about. But as you all know, our life sciences industry has been such a key piece of our economic development success over the last five years. Um, so being able to recruit a company not just from California, but an entrepreneur, uh, Darren has, uh, started and successfully sold a couple of different companies and is actively choosing to be part of Fisers because of what we're seeing the success for related to our other life science life science companies. So access to talent um being able to work in close proximity to our research institutions, universities, um

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but then also choosing to be in Fischers because of the partnerships that we're able to create with businesses long term. Um so super excited to be able to have them share a bit of their story with you tonight. Um but as part of the agenda there again there are three items. So, the first is the request to approve their economic development um agreement. So, they have leased um the old Juno lighting building at uh 12,01 exit 5 Parkway. So, that's right off of 121st Street and Cumberland Road um on the southwest corner of that intersection. They plan on investing anywhere between 7 and 10 million. That building is sat vacant for four or five years now. Um, and so they need to make improvements to the building itself, but obviously with their compounding pharmacy side of things, um, they have a significant amount of personal property that they'll be bringing in here as well. It's 130,000 square foot building approximately. Um, and so that gives them plenty of room to then be able to grow into that space, which is a great opportunity um, for them and then also for us as a great partner to again ex continue to expand outside of just our life science park um, and throughout Fisers our for life science industry. As part of their economic development agreement, we're requesting approval of a 10-year 100% vacant building tax abatement. Currently, right now, their tax is around $120,000 a year. Um, and so requesting a 10-year approval of that. So, that is included in item uh 12. Um, starting with the declaratory resolution. So, that's the first step in approving abatement for a building. Um, and then we're also requesting a 10-year 100% personal property tax abatement. Um, they again they anticipate significant personal property investments within this facility. Um, in exchange again for that investment that they plan, approximately 120 new uh positions and employees uh will be in

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this facility over the next 10 years. Again, great story continues here of um the average salaries here will be approximately $90,000 um for those 20 new employees that they will plan to bring to the facility. Um so Darren and Lori are here tonight and so I'd love um to be able to have them come up, share a little bit of their background um to share why 111 is choosing Fisers. Thank you [Music] Kyle. Thank you for your Couple things. I graduated in 90. Did some graduate work at UPY and left Indiana 3 years ago. So having some level of success in this space. to start 111 California. Moreover, Indiana is homecoming business overall. Obviously, we like ourade and all university as well as talent just perspective. And then Scott knew about Prior to this very exists

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in essence Long size very promising for us. Any questions for again been great partners um are excited to be here in Fisers and really haven't stopped moving since the moment we met them of getting operations started and up and coming here. Um so again item 11 is for approval of the economic development agreement. Item 12 is related to the declaratory resolution so we can start finalize that abatement process. Um and then item 14 is that approval of their statement of benefits. So one will be for the vacant building tax abatement and then one will be for the personal property taxment. Happy to answer any questions about the project. Any questions before I congratulate you. I want to take some votes. So let's go ahead and have a a motion for item number 11. Motion approves. Motion by John. Second by Tiffany. Jennifer. Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Hi. John Wingart. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Dreamer. Hi. Selena Stler. I Tiffany Deless. Hi. Bill Stewart. Hi. Motion passes. Very good. Congratulations. and I wish you both the best and thank you for choosing Fischers. Thank you for choosing

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Fischers. Welcome back to Indiana. Right. And then we can go on to item number 12 since you already covered it. Correct, Megan? Yes. Okay. So, I'll entertain a motion on item 12. Motion to approve. Second by Tiffany. Second by me. Cecilia. Okay. Jennifer Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Yes. John Wangard. Hi Cecilia Cobalt. Hi Brad de Ramer. Hi Lena Stoler. Hi Tiffany Deppen. I Bill Stewart. Motion passes. Thank you. And then it's also I'm going to skip item 14. You covered that as well. We'll entertain a motion on item 14. Motion to approve item 14. Okay. By Tiffany. Second. Second by Selena. Jennifer Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Hi. John Weingard. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad de Ramer. Hi. Selena Stler. Hi. Tiffany Deton. I Bill Stewart. Motion passes. Thank you. Okay. Now we're going to you for item 13, Megan. Yes. So every year we have our annual compliance forms that are submitted by companies that have received abatements whether it's personal property, real property or vacant building property tax abate or vacant building tax abatements throughout the city. So this year we have 24 active abatements that we're requesting approval of. Um within the exhibits you'll see the compliance form submitted by all the companies. There are two though that are not in compliance and we're requesting as part of this termination of those abatements. So uh one is for Republic services and the other is for um and this is Republic as it was their customer service center. So it was a call center that was in two

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concourse. Um they have gone completely remote as part of that. But what's great um is we have a tech company back hall direct that is actually upstairs and has released that space. Um and then the other building is was Stanley Security system. So they have um they've been purchased by a company called Securas. They still have a really significant headcount presence um off up off ofund uh 21st or I guess in Exit 5 Parkway um in Fisers, but that property will soon be purchased by a different entity. Um and so because they are not fulfilling the requirements of their headcount are asking that we terminate since they continue to have a presence here in Fisers um but just not can not receive the benefit of a big on that property um off of Sunlight Drive. But the rest of our companies are all in compliance um exceeding their headcount and investment uh projections in most cases. So happy to answer any questions on these. Any questions for Megan? Seeing no questions, I entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Motion by John, second by Selena. Jennifer, there's a public hearing on this. Oh, was there a public hearing with this? Okay, I'll open it up for public hearing. Anyone wish to speak on this matter, please step forward and state your name and address for the record. You have three minutes in which to speak on this matter. Seeing none, I'll go ahead and close the public meeting. Now, Jennifer will take the vote. Pete Peterson, yes. John Deluchia, yes. John Weingart. Hi Cecilia Cobalt. Hi Brad de Ramer. Hi Selena Stler. I Tiffany Deppson. I Bill Stewart. Hi. Motion passes. Okay. Moving on to government miscellaneous item 15. Lindsay.

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[Music] All right, there we go. Um, good evening, council. Lindsy Bennett, Corporation Council. I'm here tonight on the property maintenance code updates. Um, let's see. This was um quite an extensive undertaking. As you probably noticed, there were around 20 pages of red lines. Um I will not be going through all of them tonight, but I will give you an overview of what we changed. This was a collaborative effort between planning and zoning, the health department, code enforcement, and myself to um go through this code, figure out what was working, what wasn't working, and make those changes. So um why did we decide to make these changes now? Well, uh, one thing we noticed was that there are standards that are set in our UDO. However, there's nothing that says once you set that standard, then you need to, uh, keep up that standard. So, a lot of these changes, um, are harmonized with the UDO. So, you know, if there are, let's say, parking lot standards that are set by the UDO, they are mimicked in this ordinance to say once you stripe, you have to now keep up the striping. Uh we also wanted to uh support the rental registration program. As you may remember, one of the u criteria for the rental registration program is that you have been basically keeping up your property. You haven't received code enforcement violations and also um it is a criteria for revocation of those permits. So we wanted to make sure we had the most up-to-date and enforceable ordinance that we could have. Um, one thing we did notice as we were going through this is that we had great residential property enforcement standards, but we didn't really have great commercial property enforcement standards. So, as you'll see, um, we have really amped up those commercial

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property standards. We also included some vacant property requirements. Again, as we went through and noticed, you know, um, we didn't really have anything for what should be required for vacant properties. We also included some additional enforcement avenues and departments. Uh, this ordinance has not been touched since 2014. We now have several other departments that have the ability to enforce and have an interest in enforcing. So, um, I'll go over those shortly. And then we also revamped the enforcement remedies and included some new enforcement mechanisms. So, one of the things we did was we updated the definitions. We deleted those that are no longer in use. We added uh several codes of record besides just um you know building codes. There's several fire codes and other codes that are applicable in Indiana. We included landscape requirements and vacant premises and structures. And then um one of the key things we did was we split up residential and non-residential and have non-residential to include HOA owned properties and common areas. And that will probably make a little bit more sense as we go through the common uh I'm sorry, the commercial property requirements. Um, and one of the other things that we talked about quite a bit was, okay, well, if we have a property that maybe was up to standard 20 years ago, then what standard should we, you know, look at to maintain? So, we did put some language in there that if the structural premise was built in accordance with the UDO variance or pursuant to a PUD, it should be maintained in that state to the standard in which it was approved. So, as I said, we um split residential from commercial standards. Residential stayed the same for the most part, but we did update with some new standards and expanded on some of the requirements that were already there. Added some general maintenance language, some additional storm water maintenance, landscape water features, outdoor storage of items designed to be on the interior. That would be couches, toilets, things like that. um animals

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and pets and abandoned vehicles just to make sure that we had an additional enforcement mechanism for um those things. They are found in other parts of the code, but they are also property maintenance um standards. So for the commercial property, these are all new requirements. Um again some just general keep up your property. Um good workmanship. We adding added grading and store um sorry grading and drainage. Uh storm water maintenance. Foundation walls, exterior walls, roofs, stairs, decks, porches, balconies, handrails and guardrails, window doors and hatchways, gutters, structural parking lots, um graffiti, landscape maintenance, uh streetscape maintenance, uh lighting. There's quite an extensive list as you can see, but um we went through some of the issues that code enforcement has faced in the past and um things that planning and zoning are seeing and so we tried to address all of those in this updated language. Um one of the other updates we made was for trash, garbage and containers and enclosures just to make sure that um they are in leak proof containers, they're located in appropriate properties, that the enclosures are being maintained in the condition in which they're approved. Uh the dumpsters shall be adequate to hold all garbage. Covers remain closed. And then uh a big one for us was the gates and fencing shall remain um and be maintained in good repair and operable. Uh this is some of the language we added for vacant premises and structures. Again, we looked at you know what we've faced in the past, what we're kind of facing now, and try to address those things and give timelines and deadlines to replace windows, doors, anything that might be broken. um to address exterior lighting in some of those vacant structures, make sure that everything is lit up and staying safe and we're not creating unsafe environments. Uh we created um standards for the signs to be re be removed within six months of closing the business and replaced with

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white panels if it's an illuminated sign. And just a general catchall, maintain the property in a safe, clean, secure, healthful, and sanitary condition. So um like I said we have some other departments now other than just the building commissioner and code enforcement. So we gave authority to uh the building commissioner, the department of planning and zoning and the health department director. Um these are all departments that may be out and about at properties and may, you know, see violations and so they all have the authority under this uh ordinance to write these violations or enter into remediation agreements, things like that. And I'll touch on that in just a second. Um, so, uh, we basically just started from scratch on the enforcement mechanisms and we've got four essentially. One is just a straight citation for violation. That's just going to be a ticket for violation. For residential, it's at 150. Commercial, 250. Vacant structures 250. Garbage and trash container enclosure violations 250. Um, and those do double if they're not paid within 30 days. They're paid into the ordinance violations bureau. um if that violation is not addressed or if they continue to have additional violations every 30 days, it's a new violation. Uh we also can do an action to enforce compliance. This entails the city giving um quite a bit of notice uh to a property owner to say, "Hey, your your property is not in compliance. These are the things that you need to do to bring them into compliance or the city's going to enter into the property and do it ourselves." and then the expenses that we incur will be due to you and if you don't pay them they become a lean on the property. Uh this is all statutory based. There are steps that you have to take. I didn't reiterate them in the ordinance necessarily because state law changes occasionally and so I just wanted to make sure that we reference the the statute and then if we have to take this step we would just reference that statute make sure that we give the notice requirements and all the

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timelines that are required there. Um the third is judicial proceedings. That's just kind of your traditional um you send a notice to the property owner. Here are the things that you need to bring into compliance. If you don't, then we will go into Hamilton County Superior Circuit Court and ask a judge to issue a judgment of no more than $2,500 for a first violation, 7,500 for a second and subsequent violation. And we may ask the judge for an injunction or some kind of special remedy. And I'd say this is probably going to be that situation where you have like a big cleanup and nobody is listening and you need to go in and have the judge say yes, you are ordered to clean up this property and or you're going to be facing a pretty large fine. So this is over and above what the we can do with the OBV and the citations there. Um and then the last enforcement mechanism is a remediation plan. So, planning and zoning, code enforcement or the building commissioner can work with these property owners and enter into a remediation plan and it essentially includes the violation, the corrective action needed, the time period in which that property owner should be taking that corrective action and then also a statement that if they don't come into compliance, they understand that the city will pursue additional remedies for this which may include the citation, the going to court for an injunction or a large fine. um and uh the action to enforce compliance. So that's uh 20 30 pages of red lines in a nutshell. I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. Any questions for Lindsay? I have a quick question, Lindsay. Uh when I went through the uh the document, the appeal process was redlined but not um added in. Can you talk about that, please? Yeah. So the old structure had more of a notice of violation. Just basically you would send a notice to the property owner and say you're in violation of this. If you don't agree then here's your way to appeal this violation here.

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These are kind that that right is inherent in these mechanisms. So uh for the citation for violation it's paid into the ordinance violations bureau which can be also appealed pursuant to the ordinance violations bureau ordinance. Um and that can all be explained within the ticket. So, typically what happens, you get a ticket, you go go to court, you can deny deny the ticket, and they'll set a trial date. Um, or you can pay the ticket. So, there are ways that you can not necessarily appeal it, but you can have your day in court to be heard for that violation. Um, with the action to enforce compliance by entering onto the property, it it is all statutoily driven. So, there are a lot of notices and deadlines that I didn't put in here because it is all statute driven. Um and then with the uh judicial compliance where you can go and get an injunction and a large fine, it's basically like a lawsuit. You would uh file a complaint, you would serve it, and then they have the right to come in um and enter an appearance and basically tell the judge why they would not be on the hook for that injunction or that fine. So the right to be heard in court is all kind of inherent in all of these enforcement mechanisms already. So, there wasn't really a need to have a right to appeal. Um, we can maybe talk when before we have second reading on this, but I think a an opportunity to appeal before you're looking at court might be something that we should consider. Um, just a way to help people prevent going to court and facing those very steep fines. Yeah, we can certainly um talk between first and second reading, but I don't think our intent is to see a violation and say, "Well, here's your citation or, you know, here's your lawsuit." It's going to be more of a conversation. And um that's how we've always done it is we want compliance. We don't want to bring bring people into court. That's kind of our last ditch. Yeah. Um effort to get

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them to comply, but um that conversation will still be ongoing with the property owners. It will certainly not be a, you know, just jump to a citation unless we come to a situation like um with maybe an absentee landlord and we just can't get a response. Then, you know, we might be looking more at a citation situation or a action to enforce compliance. And what's the timeline from um notice to uh to to the fines? What's the timelines? So um there's not a defined timeline except for in that second um action to enforce compliance. There are statutory deadlines. You have between 10 and 60 days notice to uh come into compliance. So we would send a notice to a property owner and say you have 10 to 60 days to fix AB and C and if you don't then we will enter onto the property and we will do it ourselves. Um, and then there's some additional notice requirements in there before we actually get onto the property. Uh, with a citation, there's not really any um, timeline there, but it would be a situation where we see a violation, we would contact the property owner, try to work with them, and then if they just would not come into compliance, or if they just don't answer us, then it might be time for a citation for that. But there's not any really baked in timelines necessarily. Thank you. Any other questions for Lindsay? Can I have first reading by somebody? John makes it a first reading. Thanks, Lindsay. Item 16. Still Lindsay. Yep. Still me. Uh, Lindsay VidC Corporation Council for the record. Um, this is an ordinance to approve updated fees for um our fire department for basic life support and advanced life support um for emergency runs and transfer of patients. This was actually brought before council a couple of months ago and um kind of got lost in

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the shuffle. So, uh did not get approved, but these are all fees that um you've seen before. Um they have not increased from the first time we brought them. Uh it's still $750 for basic life support for a resident, $933 for advanced life support, and $1,159.33 for advanced life support too for the resident. So, these are all fees that um the fire department, EMS charge whenever they have to respond to an emergency run. Any questions on this item? If not, I'm going to entertain a motion to uh suspend the rules and approve on first reading. Motion to suspend. Motion by Cecilia. Second. Second by Tiffany. Jennifer. De Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. I John Weingart. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Ramer. Hi. Selena Stler. Hi. Tiffany Deppson. Hi. Bill Stewart. Hi. Okay. Now I'll entertain a motion to approve. Motion to approve. Motion by Selena. Second. Cecilia. Second by Tiffany. Jennifer. Back to you. Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Yes. John Wangart. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Damer. Hi. Selena Stler. Hi. Tiffany Deppen. Hi. Bill Stewart. Motion passes. Item passes. Okay, now we're on it. Thanks, Lindsay. Item number 17. Chief. Thank you, Council. Chief Edgart here to request to create residential parking permits for a couple locations in our city. There's two locations in our city that we've uh received numerous complaints from community and then we've also had numerous respon numerous responses to both locations to try to alleviate and help with parking along

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with those two locations. The first locations I speak of is King Judge. The second is the Alguda Mos Temple on Lander Road. Both locations, I want to note, um, have worked to try to resolve. This has been ongoing for almost two years, well over a year, where we've had complaints, members, and so forth with parking, uh, happening during high hours at King Judge where it's just invading the neighborhood in front of houses. There's things going on in there like urinating, drinking, bottles littered, and so forth in that particular location. and over on and what he's done there at King Judge is he's tried to add property, shuttle people to his business. So, what the business has tried to kind of alleviate, but it's not working to help to where I think this is something that may be a cure for us moving forward if you uh prove it. The second location is the mosque temple where uh on Fridays they have worship there and it brings in a flood of traffic from outside of our city. So people just kind of go there to pray three times a day on Friday. And then it's also becomes a high parking during Ramadan when they celebrate their Ramadan time as well. And this absolutely infringes on the neighborhoods around the mosque to where neighbors can't get through. That becomes a problem on both sides of the road. We've tried to alleviate alleviate this through no parking. We've tried to alleviate this through enforcement. We've tried to do what we could do at a legal sense up to this point. The mosque also has worked with us and has provided parking at the launch and so forth and tried to get this rectified as well, but has not been able to get it done to to bring peace within the neighborhoods in adjacent to it. We have met with uh both neighborhoods um and tooken concerns in and complaints in of what this process would look like. We do know that not everybody may be on board with this particular process. But it's the only way as I as chief of police can see my way through this because as the law sits right now, we can only do limited things

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when we have these cars parked in front of houses blocking driveways and so forth. We can go in and try to enforce, but we can't uh only enforce certain things like if they block the two-lane passage for emergency vehicles or they get too close to a corner or they block certain things is the only time we can take action. So, I'm asking for the help of the council to help me with this by creating a residential parking permit. And what this would do is a system where the police department would issue permits from the police department staff in the lobby. We make it as painless as pro uh painless as possible for residents to come in, show an ID of where they live, and we'll give out a number of passes that they think they need for specific times of problems. not permitted parking Monday through Sunday uh 24 hours, seven days a week during times that we explore that we're going to have these issues is what these permits will be for. We're targeting the areas that we've already had issues with and cars parking there which which will uh help to alleviate the calls that come into us and also help the neighbors have a peaceful uh night or evening when these things go on. So, specific times, specific days in or around this where this parking fine would be enacted. I'm asking for $150 towards violations for this parking fine. I'm asking that streets be added and subtracted as we go. Meaning, initially, we want to uh hit the areas that we think the cars have already been violating the parking, but also we know that cars are kind of like water in the city of Fisers. So, as we kind of set streets up, it's going to move those parts further back. So, we kind of have a large area in around these two locations that we can begin to enforce adequately. And those streets can come off or on as we go through the uh uh public works and safety board process. So, it would transfer if if you support it, it would transfer there to where streets could come on and off after we evaluate whether streets need

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it or don't need it. moving forward in the city of Fisers. Uh like I said, we'll facilitate everything from the police department's lobby. We'll try to be uh respectful and get people in and out of there. We'll also when we're enforcing, we'll use our discretion like we always do in every situation and common sense prevail. So, we're not looking to go in and just flat target any and every car in both these neighborhoods. We are looking for people who are going to go in there and just stop normal life and productivity under the environment of the neighborhoods so we can bring peace to both neighborhoods. Um, that's all I have. Any questions? Any questions for Chief? Uh, Chief, I was chatting with somebody before the meeting. What would be your recommendation to somebody who lives in one of these areas and if they were having a large gathering on a Friday night and they were expecting a lot of people? Yeah, I don't think well no let's not think Friday nights are not going to be included right now as we start Friday night if it's I don't know which location you're speaking of. Can you tell me that? I I think um we would highly encourage you could go to the lobby of the police department and get as many passes as you feel you need. And also I think to Chief Gart's point is there's discretion with the law enforcement folks to say what we're really trying to do is curb all this influx of traffic. But if you and your family are having a graduation party, correct? We're not we're not interested in enforcing that on those folks necessarily. Um, and so that would be my recommendation. Either go to the lobby, get some additional passes, or if a police officer's out there, simply stop and say, "We're having a graduation." And I don't want to speak for Chief Gart, but my guess is we would say, "Congratulations on your graduation. Move on with your day." And this is going to be very um specialized to times and weeks that things are happening that we can see. It's not going to be an everyday permit for every night that they're having these gatherings in their neighborhoods. And again, to the mayor's point, we're going to use common sense. So, if we go down

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there and there's a large gatherings, a senior party or senior high school parties. We know those kind of can clog up neighborhoods. We're going to understand that. Perfect. Thank you. I know Bill Stewart just texted me and he's got a question or two for you, Chief. Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, Chief, I just want to say, I have a question. Uh, thank you and your team for working on this new issue for Heritage Meadows. Uh, it's it's a significant problem in that neighborhood and I just really appreciate the diligence and the willingness to think of all options uh to try to resolve this problem. Also, commend Faradness for his help in this matter as well. toward this passing. I think too tonight, just to reinforce, council president Peterson, this is just enabling legislation. The actual specific roads and the times and the dates would all be set at the board of public works. And so you guys could pass this and all it would do is say that if the chief wanted to do this, he has the authority, but that the actual roads, times, manner, that's going to be done at board of public works. So this truly is kind of enabling legislation, if you will. But that tonight, if you were to pass it, that doesn't mean tomorrow all these are implemented. Then we got to go to board of public works and specify which roads what time and there'd be a legislative process for that as well. Okay. Selena. Yes. Uh first of all, Chief, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, I know that we've I I'm not as familiar with the King Judge, but uh but you've worked tremendously, I know, with Alhuda and the problems that both uh Councelor Deluchia and I have been having um in our neighborhood. So, thank you for your support. But I do have a

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question. Um, so I had a lady that emailed me this afternoon. Um, they work at home. She has two teenagers. They park their cars on the street, especially during the summertime. They're going there's a chance that those cars are going to be on the streets. What if some of their friends come over and they don't necessarily have that and they get a ticket? Can they bring that ticket to you? What do they do if somebody in their graduation party gets a ticket? How do we get that resolved? Well, one, the households are not going to be limited to four park information permits. They have as many as they need to hand out if they should have visitors at any time. But let's say that that doesn't even happen. U it'll go through the regular ordinance and if that will go in before Judge Inky as well. So, they'll have a chance to say this was a normal thing or if the officers come to site just come out and say, "Hey, we have permits. They're just friends of ours." I'm sure common sense will prevail there, too. I also think we're going to try to be very specific about time. Like, we're not, again, I think Chief Gart said it well. We're not looking to ban street parking 24 hours a day, seven days a week. We know when these are peak times, and we're going to really try to narrow the the timing of this to just when we have these acute issues so that 90% of the time you can park wherever you want. And frankly, you don't even need a permit for 90% of the time. It's for those small windows where we really have kind of a real parking challenge. And again, I think um people can still come forward at board of public works and remmonstrate or say we don't want it on our road or we want all that can still be done at board of public works specifically about the individual ones. What you guys are contemplating is should we give the police department this tool to enforce parking going forward? And then the next

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layer of this is okay border works where and when. Uh so tonight this is really about enabling legislation. And this is just a first reading. Correct. We're not passing anything tonight. Correct. Unless they suspend the rules. Do we want to suspend the rules? No. You guys want to move on? I think we have to suspend the rules. Again, I'm just It was only put on my agenda as a first meeting. For first meeting, but it's acceptable to suspend if you want. We're We're not in a We're not in a hurry. If there are residents that are upset about this or want to share their concerns, we can have another meeting with a public hearing. Um again, it's not going to be on the specifics of their street because those conversations are going to be had at Board of Public Works. But just generally, if people are concerned about the police department having this tool, then hold first reading and we can Well, I I've gotten one that says to have the suspension. I got another one. It says don't. We need it unanimous to suspend the rules. So, I'm going to go ahead and if I could just real quick. Yeah, I I mean, thank you. I agree 100%. And as you know, we've been in a lot of meetings. Um I did, you know, I'm in Sunless Farms and I have some neighbors here tonight. Just confusion. I think you know give it till next month so we can answer that you know I think some are here ones I talked to I think it's it makes sense when you understand it but you know we got a letter you know and and and a lot of people were not following it especially in the parts of our neighborhood that weren't adjacent so yeah that would be I think uh I don't want to speak for the chief but we're eager to solve people's problems but we're also eager to answer questions and so we can and I fully support I just think just to allow John, I appreciate the support uh Council Member Dreamer to to move this forward, but I we're fine answering questions, too. Have first reading. Okay, so we have first reading.

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Thank you, Chief. Yep. Okay. Item 18, Nathan. Good evening, council. Ethan Lee, director of human resources. I'm here before you to uh request an amendment to the 2025 salary or limits. Uh this uh request would simply add uh an incentive pay to the police department list uh titled executive lieutenant. I'm happy to answer any questions at this time. Any other questions for nation on this item? If not, I'll entertain a motion. Motion to suspend the rules. Thank you. Second by Tiffany. Uh Jennifer Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Yes. John Weingart. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Dramer. Hi. Selena Stler. Hi. Tiffany Deless. I Bill Stewart. Hi. Okay. Passes. Now we'll take a motion to approve. So moved. Second. Jennifer mo motion by John second by Tiffany. Who was the first? John. Okay. Weart. Now I have two Johns. Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Yes. John Weingart. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Dramer. Hi. Selena Stler. Hi. Tiffany Deppen. Hi. Bill Stewart. Hi. Motion passes. Okay. Item 19.

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Maybe Ross. Good evening. Uh, for the record, Ross Hillary, planning zoning director. Um item 19 before you is ordinance 022425B which is the Gadot PUB. Uh this is the final reading of this proposed reszone. So as a summary it is 9.15 acres of uh land that is currently zoned R2 with a request to zone to PUDR. The address of the property is 11052 road. This is a project brought forward um by PY Homes. summary of the development for the 21 lot for sale single family residential. Um an update on this since the last time you saw it. These will be side load garages. The timeline on this uh we had first reading back in February. We had a successful neighborhood meeting which I'll go I'll talk about in a second. In March public hearing before plan commission and a final reading uh here tonight. Um the comp plan shows us as residential um suburban residential um which looks at uh a density ranging between two to four units per acre which is in line with this development. Uh here is the site plan and home elevations that are within the PUB. Um so this did go before our PED committee would had um home elevations approved. Uh since then we have modified those home elevations. So if approved tonight we will take these back before PED committee. um to assist with staff's review. Um the site plan that you can see here, Cumberland Road is on the left. Um they would have a pond uh for detention along with tree conservation area in the back uh northeast corner and a buffer area between both the neighborhood to the south and the neighborhood to the north with a single road uh in and out. Um the neighborhood meeting was held on March 13th. Uh 21

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residents attended that along with the counselor. um and plan commission um or a planning staff member. Um items that were discussed uh with PY were buffering of landscaping uh drainage uh density and lot count um setbacks and the timeline. Uh Rex Ramage will go over some of those items tonight. Uh as mentioned, we had a public hearing at our plan commission which was held on April 2nd. Um eight residents um spoke demonstration against the development. Items included annexation um the desire privacy or berm. Um there was a hydraologist report that was provided. Concerns around noise uh drainage and then property values. Plan commission um is bringing forward to you a no recommendation tonight. Um as mentioned it was on April 2nd, 2025. With that I'd like to bring up Rex Ramage with multi groups to give a short presentation. Good evening. Rex Image PY Homes 11595 North Meridian Street. Um, a lot of what's in my slide deck is very similar to what Ross just showed you. So, I'll try not to belabor all that. Um, there's a few extra points that I'd like to go over uh just real quickly. So, again, familiar with this site, east side of Cland Road between 106 and 116th. Ross touch on suburban residential as part of the comprehensive plan. That's anywhere from two to four dwelling units per acre. This site having 21 lots and just over 9 acres is about 2.3 units to the acre site plan that you've seen. Again, 21 lots single culde-sac. There was a lot of discussion in past meetings about uh how that density compared. So, I just wanted to do a quick snapshot of our anchorage and then overlaying that rectangle to the south along deer street. So just to kind of

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have that comparison the 32 lots to the 21 lots as Ross mentioned one of the major changes uh that has been made since the last meeting is the uh front loaded to the side loaded architecture. So these were pictures or renderings of the previously proposed elevations. You see they still have all the same character features. What we've done and these are included in the ordinance now uh is commit to 100% sideloaded. Uh the only modification from that would be an example. So if you look at the top left corner of that white house as an example, that's a twocar sideloaded home. They want to add that third car garage and have the extra space. That would be a pull forward design similar to what you see in that top leftand corner. Homes are about 2800 to 32 3300 ft. So of the same footage as we talked about previously. Again, a couple more pages of what those elevations would look like. Variety of materials, variety of architectural styles and features. And again, so as we transition from a front load house to a side load house, one of the other conversation topics in past meetings was setbacks. So, uh, in the ordinance, uh, if you've seen it on the chart there, so there's a side minimum side set back of 3T and that would be on the non garage side because what you do when you have a side house is you artificially shift the house on the lot to make sure that you can access the garage. The driveways push to one side and then that shifts the house on the lot. You'd still have a minimum of 20 ft in between houses on adjacent lots. So, there's sufficient space in between the homes. And then I'd say the last topic of conversation that was brought up not only at our neighbor meeting but at the plan commission meeting uh and has been a discussion topic throughout uh is the drainage. So some of the folks to the south expressed you know real concern

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they're getting a lot of water today what would happen post development. So we took a look at this uh and this was a little early. You know, typically this information is is handled at the primary platin development plan stage which would be 60 days from now plus or minus. But this exhibit shows you about nine acres coming south in a variety of capacities. You see those red lines and where those red lines are heading to. So that's basically demonstrating that all the water is coming south and it's coming on those Dearing Street neighbors. So post development, the way this is going to work is we're going to have different easements and rear yard swailes. And the way that the property is going to be designed based on current standards is that it's going to collect and capture that water. So all the water on the north side of the street, it's going to get collected and routed through these storm water facilities and pipe on the north side of the street as you can see that flowing west into the pond. And then anything that would be centrally located or south of the street would again come back to the rear yard swells of those homes and then west ultimately into our detention pond. So there should be about a 90% reduction in the storm water runoff that is leaving the site today which should vastly improve uh the drainage runoff concerns that people to the south are currently experiencing today. And then this is just an individual lot just to depict again how drainage is going to work. So traditional lot you know water is going to flow away from the structure but really want to focus on that rear yard drainage soil and So the image that's kind of highlighted in red is the city's uh standard detail for how we have to construct those rear yard drainage soils. So from the house to the back of the lot, it will flow that way. And then from the actual rear property line flowing back towards the house, that way it's getting captured in that V-shaped um rear yard drainage swale. And then that's how it's going to get collected and routed to a.

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So with that um happy to answer any questions that you all have. But thank you so much for your time. Any questions for Rex? Brad, um, this is zoned R2. Why won't you develop at R2? Uh, this this site has an interesting geometric shape. So, there's things that to develop this site for residential shown, you can't develop it under R2. Okay. All the neighbors are R2 or R3. They showed up at the planning commission meeting against this. Um, and then for the last nine years, I'm the only one that's been fighting PUDS with side setbacks. And the side setback, you change from the plan commission to tonight to three-foot side setback. You can't even put an HVAC unit beside that house with a three-foot side setback. And I was elected to represent the residents. And the residents do not want this. and many other subdivisions that you guys have done, as you know well from me, are very upset with the size setbacks and the cost forever now on these homes. I don't know why we keep approving PUDS. It doesn't make any sense to me. Let's just get rid of our zoning ordinance and let the developers do what they want. This is getting ridiculous and I'm against this one again trying to represent the people that put me into office. Thank you. Any other any other questions for Rex? You know, I I'll make a statement since I sit on planning commission and Brad, I I I certainly understand your concernation. Okay. I'm in favor of PUDS because we push back on these developers really hard on on some of the standards that go on that don't really fit into a direct zoning path, right? And we've

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done a really good job at doing that in a number of occasions to get additional architectural features to get, you know, different things that we need in there to make what we feel elevated, you know, neighborhoods that we're putting in. And we're in a very difficult time with a lot of these infills that are going on. These are not easy projects to do. So I mean again as I look at this when this first came to us there was a lot of consternation on the PUD committee just due to the architectural standards and and I want to compliment you know both Megan and and and even Scott who kind of chimed in a little bit for us with some direction and and really PY who came back and really fixed a large problem that we had at PUD committee with with some of those architectural standards by making them sideload garages. So again, I'm in favor of this project only because I think it's a very difficult infill project. I think it's going to go ahead and enhance that that whole area. It's going to help out with the flooding because you're going to got to get through TAC. You got a very large pond in there. We know what's going on there. I mean, I get the fact that the neighbors have basically a park in their backyard now, but I can't take away land rights from somebody. That's not our our job. The the land owner should be able to do what they want with their land within the constraints of what we approve here at city council. But as I look at this, you know, on an R2 standard, I don't think you're going to get what you want there either, Brad. Now, I agree with you that we probably need to have a a sit down with our planning group to go ahead and do that for an R5 zoning to do that, but I mean, again, that's that's for us to deal with probably at a work session. As it relates to this particular project, I think the developer has gone over and above to try to be amanable to doing the things that we want in our community to drive those standards up. And you know, I think Megan would agree that they've they've worked with us, you know, hand in hand in this thing. It hasn't been the easiest of process always. I mean, I think you guys lost a lot or two there, which obviously feeds into your

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economics. So, again, you know, I I'm in favor of the project. I I think it it went from okay to good, and I appreciate all the effort that's been done there. So, if there's no other comments or questions, uh Rex, I too appreciate the comparisons and how you explained the uh upgrade on the drainage. Um had a really good conversation about um storm water capture and how um when new developments go in adjacent to existing developments that have been there for 15, 20 years, how oftentimes that new development with the new technology can improve drainage for existing homes. And I think that this is a real great opportunity for some of those homes on Dearing. Um I trust that you will um work very hard to um maintain some of the existing trees on the periphery. That's very very important to the um the homeowners and those adjacent parcels. Um I even talked to the uh the fire chief today about setbacks and just trying to understand and he spoke about how much training they do to ensure that they can get their ladders in between, you know, those setbacks. And we spent a lot of time looking at that aggregate setback from the side of the house past that uh driveway apron to the other home and how there is at least 14 feet there and sometimes 20. So I want to thank you so much because I know that realtor to realtor we had some tough conversations about how important the comparisons are. So thank you so much. Any other comments? I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Motion by Selena. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Tiffany Jennifer. Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Hi. John Weingard. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Dramer. No. Selena Stler. I. Tiffany Deppen. I Bill

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Stewart. No. Did he say yay? He said no. Okay. So, I think that was I think we're at Well, it'd be six to two because Todd's not here. So, motion carries. Thank you. Good luck, Rex. Okay. Item 22, Ross. Good evening. For the record, Ross Hillary, director of planning, zoning. Before you tonight is ordinance 061624B. Uh, this is for weathertight roofing, which is a reszone request for C1 with conditions. Uh, this is the first reading. Um, for you tonight again is that consideration of 1.13 acres from R2 to C1 with conditions for a new business called Weathertype Roofing. Um the property is located at 13600 East 118th Street. To kind of put you where this is on the map, um that large white box is the Kroger on um East 116th in Holio. Um so this is a parcel um that's kind of left behind right there. Uh the summary of this uh project is the intent for a commercial office um with trail room and storage of materials. Um there are conditions on this property which uh limits the use uh limits the lighting and limits that there is no outdoor storage. Um the timeline for this project right now is to go before plan commission in August and potentially back to you um at the meetup office. Other limitations um include it's limited to office, medical office, uh beauty, hair salon, day spa, and nail salon. Um in our comprehensive plan, this area is called out for neighborhood service center um which includes daily retail uses and professional services. So land use of commercial and office um would be permitted. Here is a draft site plan and a draft elevation. Um the developer would be required to extend 118th Street. If you've been on 118th Street, it ends at the end of the self storage. So they

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would be required to um extend it to the end of their driveway which is a little different than this site plan. Um the developer would be required to meet all UDO requirements um along with the site plan and architecture. So again these are just renderings for your assistance. Um Ward Snar with core group is here to answer any questions. I'm also here to answer any questions. [Music] First time in the facility I really like. Um my name is WNAR. I'm with Core Group and we are hired to basically put help the company with uh there's going to be an annexation agreement that will go along with it. And um Cross did a great job explaining anything and anything that you guys would have questions on. Um I can try to I did most of the layout and everything. Uh I asked a lot of pertinent questions uh with the owners and uh he unfortunately couldn't be here today, but um I can try to answer your questions. Any questions? Seeing none, I'm going to go. Is this just first reading? Okay, this is just a first reading. Anybody want to give it a first reading? First reading. John gives it a first reading. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Okay, on to item 21. Still you, Ross. Yep. Ross Taylor, planning zoning director. Item 21 is a resolution for the fiscal plan for annexation 25-1. Address is 1056 East on 26th Street. This is a voluntary annexation of 1.35 acres. Happy to answer any questions. Any questions for Ross? Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Second. Motion by Selenus, second by Tiffany. Uh, Jennifer

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Pete Peterson, yes. John Deluchia, yes. John Weingard, hi. Cecilia Kovville, I Brad Dramer, I Selena Stler, I Tiffany Dlesen, I, Bill Stewart, I. Motion passes. Okay. Item 22 is the final reading um for the Shipment property annexation. Um, same address one Z56 East 126 Street. This is a voluntary annexation and this is the final reading. Motion approved. Motion by John. Second. Second by Tiffany. Jennifer. Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Hi. John Wangard. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Dramer. Hi. Selena Stoler. Hi. Tiffany Deless. I, Bill Stewart, I motion passes. Okay, thank you, Ross. Moving on to item 23. Item 23 is the Gered property annexation resolution. Um, address is 11052 Cumberland Road. This is a voluntary annexation um based on a reszone that was approved tonight. Uh, 9.15 acres. This is the final reading. We have a motion. Motion to approve. Okay. Motion by Tiffany. Second. Second by Selena Jennifer Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Yes. John Weingard. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Rymer. Hi. Selena Stler. Hi. Stephanie Deples. I. Bill Stewart. I. Motion passes. Okay. Item 24. Item 24 is the Got property annotation. This is the final reading of the ordinance. Address 11052 road. voluntary institution of 9.15.

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I have a motion moved. John, second by Tiffany. Jennifer. Pete Peterson. Yes. John Deluchia. Yes. John Weingard. Hi. Cecilia Cobalt. Hi. Brad Dramer. Hi. Felina Stler. Hi. Tiffany Deton. Hi. Bill Stewart. Hi. Motion passes. Thank you, Ross. Okay. We're going to move on to any other unfinished or new business. Have an item. Oh, what did you any other unfinished or new business? No, I just wanted to mention about the Junth festival. Okay. So, just a reminder that the city celebration for Junth is on Thursday at Connor Prairie. Uh there's a the students from Fischer High School are putting it on. We do it every year. So that's um that'll be on Thursday. Thank you for your help on that as well, Council. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh we're going to go move on to community comment and we remind everybody that the game starts in six minutes. So, um we're all going to try to do that. So, anyone wishing to come to the podium and and share about whatever item you want to, please step up to the podium. You have three minutes in which to speak. Hi Michelle B 1123 Meadows Drive in B with the resident parking permits in King Jud. I think that's a great idea. I'm glad that the homeowners at Merid where whatever was brought it on because we don't have an HLA because we've been there since 1961. Excuse me. But it's a great idea because come the weekend, special events, you can't get in and out of your driveway. Down on the road drunk, peeing, cursing at you if you call the cops. It's always

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a wonderful thing when something goes on at King Jug. And I think the resident permit parking is a great idea and would help a lot and kind of make me happy, which is very important to my husband. So, thank you. Thank you. Tom Costakus. I live on Morgan Drive, 8712 Morgan Drive. Couple of things. Um, we have a real problem pulling out off of Morgan onto Lantern. I was appreciative to see that that utility box is going to be moved. I can see the new foundation there. That's going to give me an unobstructed view of the parked cars that block my view on the lantern. And that's only looking to the north, looking to the south. I still have both utility box and parked cars. Those cars are parked perpendicular. They should be parallel parking. I think you need to look at that. That would reduce I think there's 11 spots north and south. Take it down probably six, but that would improve it. The reason It's hard to get out there as well as on Francis and down by King Jugs. It's not just visibility. It's also the speed of the traffic on Lantern. And so I'd suggest looking at ways to slow up the traffic on there. Even though it's a school zone, people are going 45, 50 miles an hour. Our neighbors to the west in their downtown area, they've put those raised crosswalks. Good works. I suggest you look at that on the parking. Well familiar with the issues of King Jug, prolific walker, they don't park on Morgan Drive. We have twigs and unlike our neighbor down the street there, they're wonderful

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people that park in front of your home. They don't litter. They're kind. They're polite and and so we we don't have that parking problem on Morgan. So, we'll attend the uh Department of Public Works to see that maybe our road is excluded from that because it would probably make more problems for us to have to do permit. Thank you. Thank you. So, can you state your name and address for the record? Can you state your name and address for the record? My name is Daniel Okay, I live in Heritage Mills that large community. I didn't even know that restaurant's name located in fishes the port and light that intersection. I was a big fan of music, public music, classic music but now I'm very sick and scared of that music. Every time the restaurant play music my understand they move away. They said there are people cannot sleep. Scared by a lot of scary people walking around and around his house every music very you know that was quiet. Now it's just an appetizer for the rest

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of business. Before starting dinner, people walk around. Sir, sir, we can't hear you. There you go. After the after dinner that is desert, people walk around again. Huh? Sound like a lot of alcohol. Very happy about Sometimes videos in front of my wife. So we cannot argue with people. We encourage the owner of you and control the people. You very that's enough for if you cannot imagine people are not in the area don't accept more people because we need we don't reference only some we should limit the restaurants, you know, party all the labor. Oh, we live here like 10 years or years of friends. [Music] We don't have Okay, sir. Thank you. Your your three minutes are up. We appreciate we appreciate your comments. I've got to keep the quum going. So, next person. Thank you. name is live in Heritage Meadows. Daniel Eric Haywood was your neighbor who moved down. No, I didn't realize. Yes, he's

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he's one of one. He was also Eric moved out because one of King's patrons almost hit his child turning around in his driveway. This is why parking is an issue in our neighborhood. Um I believe the park only not only would it help our neighborhood, but I also believe it would help the police and we supposed to be there and not be there. We get these people in our neighborhood. We give them the phone call and let them know, hey, we've got people who are not permitted to be here in front of our homes. We'll help police out and make this an effective program. Thank you. Anyone else? My name is Kyle. I live in Meadows. Something I like to point out too, and I was told this 10 years ago when I moved in, Meadow Drive, not only traffic goes down it, if Lantern is backed up, the fire trucks have to get down that road as an access road to get farther down. Uh, King Judge is realistically a pain in the ass. Um, it has been for a while. Nothing against them. Uh, I'm glad they want to have a business here and hope they prosper, but they need to do something to get their parking under control. I know down by street. There's a big open parking lot there that's supposedly been developed for years and it hasn't happened. Park the park down there and shuttle them up there. That's another place to go. And then you're going to get everybody in one place and the cops may not have to run over God's creation to deal with it. So that's another idea. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hi Jennifer community. I'm here um any further going on with the whole development and just development together. Um we've been residents and fishes for um

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26 years. Um we've been inside community for um 23 years. Um when it was discussed earlier about enhancement and housing neighbors in the an enhancement. Um I disagree with that and every um resident in the community um in ours and the adjacent community uh would completely disagree with that statement. I don't believe that there's going to be any enhancement um except for the pockets of home. Um it's taking away um a whole forest that is in between the homes there right now. There's a lot a lot of different species of wildlife. Um there's deer, there's um there's bats, there's a lot of really great things for the environment that would be removed with all the forest there. Um I know they're going to take all the trees down, all the forests down. I'm really concerned about privacy. That's going to be a significant issue taken away. talking about the building the soils there is going to take away all the vegetation all the very large trees that taken um you know 100 years to grow um we paid $14,000 extra to have a lot like that as well as money neighbors in the area and I think it's import it's important as a home buyer to realize that that is also important to someone not just a big house um that yard commodity that's becoming more of a hot commodity to have a yard and landscaping. According to the top market area, seven out of 10

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buyers ask about yard privacy in the first 30 seconds of initial conversation. So that's just something to think about because as we take white trees and grass, um the silo garages are not going to make much of a difference because you're taking away the trees and putting more concrete and now the up several cars um two four cars there. So that definely does not make a difference. Um and the comparison of 21 versus 13 homes um that he showed earlier that is yeah fewer homes but 21 homes is smooshed together in a much smaller area versus the neighbor. Thank you, ma'am. Hi, my name is Heather Hail. I live at 8443 Trappers Court, and it's a very quick request for the permit parking. Um, one thing I do ask, I appreciate the ease of going to the police station to get permits. But for those of us that have already been dealing with it, maybe to make it a little bit less of a cumbersome, can all homes that are going to be involved maybe have an initial set of parking permit passes sent to each home so that We don't all have to come to the police station and get them, but if we need additional ones in the future, we could do so that way. I just ask that request for these. That's all I need. Thank you. 8508 Pioneer Trail in the Heritage Parking uh permits. Uh just this Saturday, I had a person in front of my house and I was in my living room watching TV and then I hear the screaming. My dog was going off in front of my house. She's yelling at me. She's

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cussing me out cuz I parked my truck in front of my house. So, this is not the first time I've had to put camera systems up around my house to make my family safe. My wife has sit out on the front porch. She's been cussed at their patient their their customers that's coming back drunk whatever so I just wanted to give you that insight what we do with every day thank you thank you anyone else seeing none I'm going to close the public comment and I'll take a motion to adjurnn motion to adjourn

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