About this meeting
- Government Body
- Municipal Planning Commission
- Meeting Type
- Municipal Planning Commission
- Location
- Gallatin, TN
- Meeting Date
- January 5, 2026
Transcript
122 sections (from 433 segments)
We'll hold uh public comment on agenda related items. Rosemary, I feel like I should get to sit at the staff table, but uh Rosemary Bates, [clears throat] City of Gallatton Economic Development Agency, 132 West Main Street. I believe on here. Yes. Item number six, the Gregory Roundtree resoning. I would just encourage you to uh think favorably on reszoning that to IR. Um and it is very possible that uh there may be some more property in that area coming to ask for the same thing. Uh we're out of industrial zone land except for a few little acres here and there. So we're missing opportunities to bring in other companies that we might want to have in Galton and keep our tax base diversified. And I don't know if this is really appropriate. It relates to several agenda items. Um, [sighs] I'm hoping that as we enter this new year and you start looking at your new zoning ordinance, there's some things on here that may be uh may not feel right to you, but that's where we're going in terms of uh how communities are being built, walkable communities, uh in um I don't want to I don't want to say closed communities, but communities that have smaller footprints where they've got everything in that footprint from single family homes to uh shopping opportunities, more of a walkable community. Uh we even have some communities that are becoming popular where they don't allow cars within the community. You can park on the outside, but you can't bring them in
the community. We don't have the transportation sometimes for that. But again, I'm hoping as we go into 2026, you will look at and maybe do some research on some of the more innovative ideas and concepts that are coming that are not here in Gallatin, but are very popular and palatable and will take advantage of maintaining smaller footprints and not gobbling up um green space and and sprawl and spread. So, um, I just, like I said, there's a couple three things on here that might seem like to you, but please don't be close-minded about unusual uh, presentations that are kind of pushing an envelope. So, thank you.
Thanks, Rosemary. Anyone else wishing to speak? Seeing none, we will close public comment and move on to agenda item number two. Jim.
All right. Thank you, chair. Or vice chair today. Jim Carpenter, staff planner. Uh the owner and applicant request the planning commission to recommend approval of a reszoning with an amended preliminary master development plan for Savannah Marketplace phases four and five. The applicant requests that 13.85 85 plus or minus acres be reszoned from the light pink uh plan general commercial zone district to the MU district uh with a plan for 96 single family homes uh 60 condo units and 20,000 square ft of commercial space. This would uh represent a significant change to the Savannah marketplace uh master development plan. Um the applicant is also asking for various exceptions in this amendment. Um for exceptions to lot width um for a lot width of 26 ft uh lot size lot size of 2100 square ft and sideyard setbacks of 3 feet for the single family detached units. Um with that the sideyard exception would require each home to be sprinkled per fire code. Um additionally um the applicant kind of circle back [clears throat] is requesting a height of 52 feet for the mixeduse buildings. Um, Savannah Marketplace has an approved um mechanism for exceptions for uh increases in height over the code maximum. Um as well
um the applicant is also requesting that um the single family homes are brick uh and sminius sighting and that sminius sighting um be allowed as a acceptable material for the 70% brickstone requirement. um that is something that has been approved in other similar home or similar plans um including but not limited to McCain Station. However, um they will also have to comply with the overall Savannah marketplace uh design guidelines and show how they comply with the previously approved uh overall design guidelines for that. Um see what else we have. Uh the other kind of main exception that the applicant requests is here uh plan south. Um they are proposing a type 25 buffer yard with a 3-fft tall burm uh adjacent to Hendersonville. This is um planning commission can recommend, city council can approve an alternate buffer yard, but um basically every version of this plan has had a type 50 um buffer yard um to the Hendersonville estate residential zone um houses and um the approved PMDP He does show a 6' tall BM. Um, [snorts] see, so from our point, from from staff's perspective,
um, our kind of main concerns, um, are that we have concerns with how this development integrates into the rest of Savannah, both inside Hendersonville and inside Gallatin and Savannah marketplace within Gallatin. Um and we have significant concerns regarding parking for the development, parking for the commercial and the capacity for the private street networks which all of the single family lots um are facing onto private streets and then the private streets and other phases of Savannah. Um, we have significant concerns with how that street network would be able to handle this sort of development um, in regards to signage and lighting and um, kind of integrating the pedestrian concerns as well. Um, and then as I said, uh, this is a significant change and a large deviation from what Savannah marketplace has been uh, over the past 25 years, 20 to 25 years. And um, that is kind of significant in its own way.
Awesome. Is there a representative from the applicant present? Hello, my name is Greg Gamble, land planner with Gamble Design Collaborative and I'm here representing uh Delta Investment Partnership. Uh tonight, uh Randy Hoffman is here with me as well as Wes McIll. And I have a brief presentation if uh it could be pulled up to walk you through what we're proposing to do. Thank you. And when I need to change, I can just hit the down arrow, I think. Let's see.
Yeah, that'll work. Okay,
that'll be fine. Thank you. I'll be uh be brief. Um the city of Gallatin owns the uh regulates uh the area along Nashville Pike that is shown here outlined in green. Northfield Church sits on the north side of uh Nashville Pike at the intersection of Gordon Crossing. Traveling west, the uses are predominantly residential and agriculture with a large rock quarry there in Hendersonville. Along the southern rideway though, there's an established pattern of mixed use, residential and commercial, including Hunt Club, Crisis Pregnancy Center, and Savannah Marketplace. This is reflected in the bay zone districts where MU and PGC are existing uh districts uh several places between Nashville Pike and the city limits to the south. We are requesting a resoning of 13.8 acres out of 65 acres of Savannah marketplace to uh MU to create transitional areas between the commercial uses and the existing residential neighborhood to the south. The previous plan also contemplated something similar where was proposed for 134 assisted living units and 30,45 ft of commercial shown here outlined in the orange area. The property has topographic challenges for commercial uses. The 13.8 acres sits approximately 50 feet below Nashville Pike with little visibility. Delta Investment has seen very little interest by large commercial uses in the past 10 years uh that they've owned it. This image here also shows the degree of drop from Nashville Pike. You can see the retaining walls from Nashville Pike
down to the uh internal drive that's behind ML Rose and Edley's. And again, in this image, you see the slope from ML Rose to the southern property line that's on the right. Several neighbors have commented over time that they weren't looking forward to parking lots, parking lot lights, and dumpsters in their backyard. Our proposed plan contemplates the development of attainable workforce housing with 96 single family detached cottage homes on private internal drives and two mixeduse buildings with 20,000 square ft of boutique neighborhood commercial uses. Um above the commercial would be 60 forale condominium buildings or condominium units. [snorts] Um, the mixeduse buildings include tuck under individual garages for residents that are accessed from that back parking lot area there. So, there'll be individual garages on the lower floor. Each of the single family residential cottages will have onecar garage with one parking space in the driveway and we've provided an additional 32 parking spaces along the internal drives. That equates to a total of 224 parking spaces for 96 single family detached homes. And this does not include a 33 uh 33 spaces that are shown here adjacent to the lake that we're proposing. We are proposing a central park open space with pedestrian connections north and south, covered mail kiosks, a pavilion, treeline drives, and parked benches. We are proposing that the existing detention area be redesigned as a retention pond near linear park elements along its edge. That's the goal, unless for some reason we can't physically make
it work due to maybe bedrock or or something that would be underneath that pond. But our goal there is to make that a water feature um and a linear park. The park area is intended to be maintained by the the residential homeowners association and that's why it's included in this proposed plan. We are proposing two buffer yards. Both are 25t in width. The buffer yard the buffer yard along with southern boundary shown here in yellow will be designed with the three-foot burm as mentioned. Uh the landscape design that we're proposing equates to the 50ft buffer yard. So, we're adding additional landscape to that. And that 25- ft buffer yard does not include the backyards of the residential homes. So, instead of having parking lots and dumpsters, uh, and the reason why we needed that 50-ft buffer on the commercial plan [snorts] is reduced because now we have residential uh, rear yards and we're going to commit to the same landscape requirement there. The pedestrian experience through Savannah Marketplace will also be enhanced with new sidewalks shown here in blue, creating uh connectivity throughout the commercial uses as well. New residents aren't dependent upon Nashville Pike [snorts] for basic everyday needs with access to the grocery store, restaurants, and other services. This is one of the the benefits of a mixeduse. The proposed residential helps support local employers through attainable nearby housing that reduces commute times and improves workforce quality and quality of life. It reflects current market trends favoring diverse housing options within walkable mixeduse environments consistent with the goals of Gallatin's comprehensive plan. Each home is two stories with a onecar garage and will be fully sprinkled. The HOA will maintain all of the areas um including park spaces, the front, side, and rear yards of the cottages. These
homes, we are requesting a minimum lot area of 2100 ft and a lot width of 26 feet. We are requesting a front yard setback of 20 ft and a rear yard setback of 10 feet with a sideyard setback of three feet. And again, all of those areas, all of that, the setback area would be maintained by the homeowners association. All HVAC's will be located in the rear of the homes, not in the sideyard. All homes will be 100% brick, masonry, and cementitious sighting, and we are requesting that cementitious sighting be permitted as a primary facade material. The mixeduse building is proposed to have three stories fronting toward Nashville Pike with a tuck under garage for residents on the basement floor of the rear building. So, we're using that building to transition down the hill. [snorts] There's a total of 127 parking spaces provided for 20,000 square ft of commercial and 60 condominiums. These mixeduse buildings offer boutique commercial uses, residential living with limited maintenance obligations for the residents. We are requesting a total height of 54 feet. And to explain that a little bit more, a similar variance was approved with the PMDP for Savannah Marketplace, which states that uh the maximum building height is 40 ft. However, for each foot that the building sits back from the street line, the building height may increase 1 and 1/2 ft. Like the cottages, we are also requesting the use of cementitious sighting as a primary u material. Due to the limited visibility of this site from Nashville Pike, we believe that anchor commercial uses are not viable, but limited boutique neighborhood commercial would be. We believe that residential will enhance um the will create a better transition to the south. And we believe that residential support sustainable
commercial uses by providing needed attainable home options. Lastly, our team is aware of a condition of approval that all properties developed within Savannah Marketplace be subject to a prata contribution of the installation of the traffic signal at Gordon Crossing in Nashville Pike. And our team is uh happy to contribute uh their fair share and continue to work with city staff um as we move forward. So, thank you and happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Thanks, Greg. Uh, I guess open it up for questions from the commission. I mean, I'll give my initial thoughts. I think that uh I mean, the first thing I wrote down was was the buffer. I Greg I think as you said when the the use was was heavy commercial I think it made sense for a 50ft buffer to be there but with the softening of a use and the fact that y'all are still putting the same amount of plant material in the 25 ft and you I I didn't know that the backyards were still in addition to that 25 ft that I feel like that goes a long way. Um I don't see an issue especially with the softening of the use. I do like the fact that um y'all made an effort to keep some form of commercial in in the project. I think the uh I think the bu the mixeduse buildings are aesthetically pleasing and I like the idea of the mixeduse product. I think we've talked in in other meetings about using more of that product elsewhere. So I I like how that's being used. Uh yes, that building there. I think that looks great. Um, my only other comment is this to me this feels very similar to not in Gallatin, but this feels very similar to the Ashcrass community in Hendersonville, which I think is a a great community. Um, and actually every everyone that I know that lives there really enjoys it. Um, so those are my comments. I mean, I as far as I know staff mentioned the the private streets. I mean, we've there's been ample projects where we've had private streets and we've got them worked out. I think as long as you get uh your fire safety worked out with the fire department and make sure that they're happy, I I don't see how that'll be an issue.
We understand that they have to be built to public street widths. Yeah. [clears throat] Yes, sir. Uh first of all, I looked at the site. I don't see how it's a viable commercial site. Nobody's going to build back in there if they don't have any visibility from the road. So, I I don't object to this concept. The only thing that uh jumped out at me was did you say a three-foot sideyard setback? Yes, it'll be six feet between structures and that's why they'll be fully sprinkled all the buildings.
Uh maybe I misunderstood. I thought that we had gone back to a 5ft sideyard setback, but recently we had to adjust that to a sixoot sideyard setback. That's that's without sprinkles. Oh, is that the only difference? Yeah. If you you need at least six foot setback so you get the 12t of spacing between the building in order to not sprinkle the building. But if you're going to automatically sprinkle it, then you can kind of get away with even closer. But the six foot stills allow access still allows access between the buildings. Um, if they were want to avoid sprink sprinklers, then they would have to have the 12 foot separation. That's correct.
What type of You can't have grass between these buildings. What type What do you plan to do between the buildings? Um, we've talked about having some uh mic not picking up. Sorry. It's not I don't know. It's on. I can't hear. You know that. So, what do you intend? No, it's not on, is it? The green light's on. Hello. Yours is CJ. I was going to try to move mine. You know, when I play in my band, they always turn my mic off. [cough] Can you hear me?
Well, I'll speak up. I don't know if that'll catch it on the recording, but um what do you intend to How do you intend to landscape between the buildings? Because you can't have grass. Uh we've talked about that the homeowners association again is going to be responsible for the maintenance between the structures and front yards and the rear yards. For those buildings that um are situated where they're the east west um we do believe that we can get good sun exposure those the ones that are vertically north south. We've talked about doing some uh decorative river rock in between those to really make sure that we've got an area that's one easy to maintain but also um meets our aesthetics. Okay, I I'll advise you that it won't work on either orientation. The [snorts] grass won't, but that's only a problem because it does become a problem when there's mud and erosion. So, this setback surprised me, but if it's permitted, then it's permitted.
Yes, ma'am. Um, a couple of things. I mean, I want us to reserve as much retail, commercial, restaurant space as we can, but I don't disagree with Mr. Ferrar that this is probably not the best location for it because it's hard to hard to view in there. I like the idea of the mixeduse buildings. I just am really concerned not just with this, but with even our code that we're reviewing. Um I've gone too many places in the last five or six years where they've had this kind of concept with a bunch of empty spaces
and I don't want to set up um circum not I I don't want us to allow for someone to create [snorts] space that that can't be successful isn't viable you know just because we're trying to make it you know more attractive or more digestible by the government body um I would think there it actually is a good use So some mixed use sp you know the the commercial below and the living above but um you mentioned that you saw somewhere in Hendersonville where it's doing well and I was going to ask you is well I meant the single family product. Oh, okay.
Is it's in my opinion I mean it's a little bit different cuz that that product's alleyfed but Ashcrest over off Sunersville Road in Hendersonville is a close I guess the the homes are really are closer together. Uh and it's walkable to all the all the uh commercial that's there at the streets of Indian Lake. this would be walkable to all the restaurants, all the I mean the coffee shop, Kroger, um
but it's just not walkable with 10,000 residents within a space to support a whole lot of retail. And I mean, even what Miss Bates said earlier, um it's a great concept, but you have to have the residences to help those businesses succeed or it doesn't. And I just I don't know. If you got a particular kind of business that you would put in the commercial in mind,
predominantly personal services and some small boutique office space, what um is difficult uh right now to find are those 2,000 to 4,000 foot shop spaces and designing this mixeduse building. We've got flexibility where we can kind of shift around the interior walls based upon column spacing and we would be able to provide a 2,000 foot um or a a hair salon or a 4,000 square foot um you know pet pet spa uh which we're seeing become more and more popular these days. So really businesses that are really about you know neighborhood personal service.
A question more for staff. Um, are we comfortable in this layout with the amount of parking spots available? [snorts]
So, um, let me back up a little bit. So, um, this is kind of a rough graph on on parking, right? Um, so what they are showing from kind of my math was about 132 surface spaces here. Um, let me go back a little. Okay, we're on the other one. Let me go back to the purple. So, it was unclear uh on the plan whether these were indie garages or not. Um but even still uh it is really dependent on what um their ultimate users will end up being. Um if not that this would happen. This is very unlikely, but if we ended up with another 20,000 square ft of restaurant, which is highly unlikely, obviously this isn't cutting it. Um, if we end up with 20,000 square ft of office, it's close. Um, but um that that's kind of where we are. We like um the additional uh parking that has been provided for the single family. Uh we're well aware in many of our uh developments with similar products that a onecar garage and a onecar driveway is not uh
sufficient for the vast majority of users. Um and so um we staff has made comments to potentially maybe break some of these um blocks up a little bit more and uh allocate some more uh parking like here and here um to kind of help disperse that a little bit. But um it it's really very dependent on what we end up with with the final product.
One more question. Um, so speaking in favor of reszoning it, let's talk about PGC, what it currently is, and if it hasn't had a lot of demand or any demand for those lots as PGC, what are some of the less desirable uses that we could see go in there as PGC? Because I if someone objects to this as housing, what are some of the uses that would might surprise us that would go in there as PGC? Um, so honestly, um, I [clears throat] I kind of want to answer that a little bit differently. So, the assisted living use is a commercial use um, that was originally approved here uh, back at the end of 2021. Um, and that amendment. Um, but you know, in the Savannah marketplace, we have a Honda dealership, we have a wash and roll, we have multiple car related businesses, right? Um, so those uses that maybe one would consider as heavier uses are I would be very surprised to see another car dealership um there, right? Like that would be a very surprising development.
How about like a tire store? What? A tire store? Yeah. um oil change, which we already have the oil change there. That's right.
Um so the idea that you know theoretically could we have another oil change place? Could we have another tire place? Sure. But um honestly with the history of approvals, we kind of have almost the the full spectrum of PGC uses across the development. Um there's not a lot I'm trying to rack my brain around anything that is really missing honestly. Um in terms of like just glaring emissions that are not allowed.
Yeah, your car uses are going to be your big PGC uses that aren't allowed in MU. Well, even like a discount retailer would be probably heavy track traffic for deliveries. I mean, um, what I was going to say when I was commenting a few minutes ago is I can definitely understand where the neighborhood would prefer this kind of transition than being backed up to someone that has, you know, back door loading docks and dumpsters and the like.
Well, we we just I was going to say we just um I get middle of last year just approved a substantial increase in retail just to the east of here, too. So speaking of like offset, I mean there's more retail within the total development or at least close to the same as if it was to go here and likely better dist distributed.
Let me let me try to rephrase my question. What PGC usage would [clears throat] the neighbors in Savannah find most objectionable? I I think um a lot of that would probably be pretty dependent on on what was where. Um but um I mean a hotel by right would be allowed in PGC. Um, not that this would happen. Um, but a Motel 6 backing up to a relatively expensive subdivision would probably not that we would get that level of hotel, but um, but like an extended stay. There's and again on the extended stays we've had multiple extended stay style hotels approved um not in this area but not drastically far I would say
um and those projects for the most there one is constructed um but there two or three that are out there that haven't automotive repair probably that because it uses loud machin scenery sometimes with, you know, lug wrenches and stuff like that.
Well, I just want to be cognizant of the fact that it does sit down in a hole and if they don't have much demand, eventually, you know, there's not much demand for the lot, it it does get developed as something and might be one of those. So, I I like the the concept. A little nervous about the sideyard setbacks, but that's all. Now did you propose another traffic signal in that area?
So um there are other than the signal at Gordon's crossing or Gordon crossing which has been a a long um included part of this development. Um, at this point there are no other lights within what would be the the Nashville Pike frontage of Savannah Marketplace. I think Greg mentioned that they were contributing their prora share.
Um, that note is on uh the plan and on the included um original or not original but the last amended PMDP from 2021. Um, Greg, y'all are working through that. Okay.
Yeah, we've asked them to update the traffic impact study for this development because it's got a little bit different use to it. Um, right now the signal at Gordon's Crossings is warranted. Um, so we'll see what their impact study results come back with. It may require turn lanes off of Nashville Pike into this development. Y'all are working through that, Greg. Okay. Anything else? Good. Okay. Thank god. Thank you. See you back in a few weeks. Item three.
Charlie. Good evening, commissioners. Charlie Perry, staff planner. The owner and applicant is requesting approval of a site plan with alternative architecture to construct a 24 by30 detached poleb barn located at 623 Jefferson Avenue. This is again one of your generic um detach accessory structures, metal buildings that have to come here until we get the new zoning ordinance passed. U the size of the structure is about 750 square ft. It is located on the back of the house and outside of any of the setbacks or easements. Um staff only had one minor comment was just to have the project file on the plan itself.
Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. Is there a representative from the applicant present? Please come forward. State your name and address. My name is Anthony Bruno and I live at 623 Jefferson Avenue. Awesome. Thanks, Anthony. And did staff uh explain why you're in front of us today? Okay. Uh so I are you working with staff to I guess address their comments, things like that. You've gotten the comments, you see you've seen them and are working through addressing those. Yeah. You know, I know that there's several buildings in the neighborhood that people have built that don't match the exterior.
Yeah. My house was built in 1956. They don't make the kind of brick that's there. I painted my house white. Yeah. And I could I could make it whatever color. Yeah. But you can't see it from the street. You can't see it from lock four. You can't see it from Jefferson Heights because there's so many trees around the entire neighborhood. It's an old neighborhood. And it's, you know, it's just basically a garage, 24 by30, 16T rollup door, the man door, and two windows. Okay. Place to put my boat.
So, we're, just so you're aware, we're working on, I guess, addressing this uh as far as like the formal process of getting approval for for these. Right now in our code, you have to come in front of our body because it's it doesn't match the facade of the home. Mhm. We're working on creating a a easier process for folks to get, I guess, approval or denial from staff uh on this. So, um the fact that you have similar buildings in the vicinity helps tremendously. You bet. Anyone have any comments or questions? No.
This is very straightforward to a lot of the other ones we've seen over the last couple years. So, if you don't have any other questions, we'll see you back in a couple weeks. Thank you. Thank you. Item four. Who do we have taking this one? Jim.
Yeah, Jim Carpenter. Staff pointer again. Um the owner and applicant request approval of an amended uh preliminary master development plan for the banks at walk four, formerly walk four, um for internal road and lot changes on 295 acres zone R8 PRD uh medium density residential planned residential development district located uh at lock 4 and Peach Valley. Um so um the applicant is proposing a reduction uh in a few lots here um and kind of relocating them um into these phases. um it's a reduction um in 41 and 50 foot wide alley loaded lots and an increase in 50 foot and 60 foot wide front loaded lots. Um, the plan also includes a boulevard style, maybe that's the wrong word, but kind of a an open space park network um that kind of bisects uh phases 3A, 3B, 7, and 8. Um, which is a pretty cool concept. Um, we are very excited to see what programming for that's going to look like. Um staff has mostly minor comments on this item. Uh the only kind of two real items of note um are that uh planning has asked for a connection to the greenway network in this area um kind of at the terminus of this uh open space. Um and then uh engineering has
requested um the removal or not the removal but uh the opportunity to provide uh future connections um to um develop or adjacent neighborhoods. Um but other than that we had very minor comments on this. Okay. Is there a representative present? Good evening. Brad Snder uh here representing the applicant. Uh yeah, like Jim mentioned, this is mainly just relocating some lots and some internal road configurations. Um we don't plan on changing the number of lots. We don't plan on changing I think open space actually we gained about one or two acres but everything's pretty minimal in terms of that.
Awesome. One thing we haven't had a chance to speak with engineering but we would like to try to keep our configuration as is. We understand uh just with connections uh you know some of the adjacent property owners may not want that or want to see that potential to come about. Um, and yeah, just here to help answer any questions as well.
Okay. Um, I mean, as far as the connectivity is concerned, I think y'all's connectiv, in my opinion, the connectivity is good. I you would be connecting to likely a smaller parcel based on what I'm seeing on this plan right now. Um, I do like the addition of the open space that y'all created. Uh, any response to the them uh wanting you to extend the greenway. Oh yeah. No, we'll we'll work that out. Okay, cool. I think this seems pretty straightforward. Any other questions or comments? One thing I did want to ask. Yes.
What are your guys' thoughts? I know this would be voted on as a major or minor. You're this is a reduction in density or is it staying the same? Same density. Same density. I mean I to me this is a net better project especially with the added open space. Uh do you think uh the I guess the future connection would that cause any uh we open that up? Not that we would connect or anything at the time but
I mean my in my opinion no. Um, and I'm only saying that because we had a fairly extensive look at this the connectivity of this project as it was coming through originally. So I I I think the the connectivity you're providing, especially to the to the north and south at two different locations, in my opinion, and I'm speaking for myself, but in my opinion, I think that's that's good. Um, but like I said, this went through multiple rounds of review before it came before us to actually vote on it to send it to council originally. Council may seem see that differently. Um but that's only if it gets voted as a major amendment. I don't see in my opinion this is a minor amendment because you're not increasing the density and you're you're adding open space.
I'd agree with you. So appreciate the feedback.
See you back in a few weeks. Item number five. Uh the owner and applicant request uh a recommendation for reszoning of 14.4 acres. This is for the Wellspring Commons development to reszone a portion of property from MRO and R15 to the PGC zoning district. Uh this is for uh five commercial lots uh with a range of uses. This plan currently shows a gas station, two quick service restaurants, uh multi-tenant building, and a pharmacy uh with adjacent storm water, uh a backage road that would be connected from 25 all the way over to Wedgewood Drive. As you'll recall, Wedgewood Drive will connect through um this town home development that got approved recently over to 25 with additional stubouts towards um the Frank property that is going through annexation right now. Um staff had some uh various comments when it came to this development. We did ask for a little bit more um information split out on multiple pages. A lot of the information is on this one layout just to kind of see a little bit more information about buffer yards, potential landscaping. Uh a little bit more information about storm water, uh potential utilities kind of distributed on different sheets. Uh for clarity, we did uh inquire about the T DOT fence along 109. As you'll recall, this is very similar with Windong where we have that chain link fence in front of that development. if there's something we could maybe do this time to for aesthetic reasons for that fencing if there's a different option. Uh we wanted to see if they had broached that conversation with T dot. Um additionally uh we did ask for uh information on
landscaping. This is PGC zoning that they would be going to with elevated landscaping requirements. Um also considerations of this buffer yard uh along this property. This property is not in the city yet. Technically, it would be an A level zoning, which is a pretty signific sign significant buffer. Um, but we know that the properties just south of that did go to town homes. So, we want to keep in mind if that does go residential, uh, what does this buffer yard look at like to give them some some screening, whether that's maybe a wall situation uh or fencing or more dense evergreen plantings. Um, we did have some comments about the architecture. So, a pattern book was included. Um, but it wasn't super cohesive when it came to design standards if they wanted to set anything up for this. Um, what kind of material breakdowns were they expecting? Is there a color palette that they're leaning towards? Uh, what's the general aesthetic through the whole development? So, we did ask for some more information, some clarity on that. Uh, additionally, gas stations in particular have more specific design requirements for PGC when it comes to canopy style and coloring and the g it's to to keep it more residential in nature. Um, so we did ask for the images to kind of reflect that and be closer to that those special conditions. Additionally, with how the layout is, they have multiple frontages. So they have their 109 frontage, which is what most traffic will see, but then they have a pretty significant backage road where people will see the backs of all these buildings. So really taking into consideration four-sided architecture versus just the front architecture. Uh making sure we think about Hback screening, what the backs of these buildings look like, what are they thinking about with signage, do they need double signage, things like that. So what's the front and how are they going to treat the rears and sides of these buildings? Um, again, this is a
resoning with a new PMDP, so this would come in front of you guys for recommendation and city council uh for final review. Awesome. Thank you. Thanks, Jane. Is there a representative present from the applicant? Clint Easley, David Lucky, South Eastern Building Corporation. Awesome. Uh, I guess y'all received the comments from staff. Y'all have any major concerns or comments on those?
Nothing really sticks out. U, I know there was a question about the frontage and the plan is to front 109. Um, I know that's a comment heard on here that we've addressed or want to address in this meeting. Um, and there was a question about the T dot defense. Uh, Tar has reached out to T dot. We're just waiting. It's holiday season, so we're waiting on an answer for that. Um my understanding T dot usually is not easy to work with when it comes to their access fencing.
But and I've got one more thing about the uh I know there's there's a clouded on on our comment section u about the stub roads the connections when we uh put this plan together. We'd worked with Tar, looked at the other Wedgwood town homes development, and those two stub roads line up with Wedgewood. Um, and we don't really have an issue with making that S-curve into and u taking out the the storm water there. Maybe just moving it somewhere else and showing it. So, we can do that. We'll we'll amend that uh to make those uh cross connections work. I would say something about the David Locky South Eastern. Uh I would say something about the elevations. Uh we realize that there's uh a need to have the four-sided elevations. We've done uh recent recent memory. We've done u uh some Kennissol strips and some uh some at Fox where we address the four-sided elevations. So we'll we'll make the backs look nice, too. And Julian, you the main thing you want there is just material percentages or something to to be held to with the PMDP as they move forward.
It's like a 70 like a 7030 it doesn't even I don't even think it has to be that. But I mean the code is 70. You don't have to get that approved. You can ask for something else. But we wanted something that whenever people when you come in and build this we have something that's clear. We'll we'll expand our uh our pattern book. We'll explain our pattern for the Yeah, we'll have cool. We can pull that together this way and submit that. Okay, awesome. Are there uh any other questions, comments? I mean, this one obviously makes sense for where it's at in the corridor. So, John, you have anything? No. Steve? Okay, if you don't have any other questions, see you back in a couple weeks.
Thank you. Thank y'all. Item six, Gregory Roundtree Reszone. [snorts]
Good evening. Kimberly Atley, staff planner. Uh this is the owner applicant is requesting a a recommend approval for a reszone of 325 acres uh to zone it to IR, which is industrial restrictive district. is located south of Highway 31 [clears throat] East and north of Gateway Drive. It's recently, you may have recognized it, recently just got annexed into the city. Currently, there there is no zoning on the property. It is vacant land. Um and on the plan Gallatin, the property is designated as part of the rural and suburban community character area. Um uh the uh the comp plan um amendment and changing the character area and Asperia designation is currently at city council. So the IR zoning um matches the intent of the amendment at this time and that's it.
Okay. Thank you. Uh is there a representative from the applicant? [snorts]
This is I'm Zach Elliot with Green Lid Design. Uh happy to answer any questions y'all have. Okay. I mean, my only remark is this seems very in line with what has been brought before us before. So, I mean, I I think this is pretty straightforward. Uh it matches the IR that's to that's just to the south. Um, and I was I it's my understanding this doesn't have a master plan with it, so it'll be broken up into blocks, I guess. Um, be brought before us at a later date. Uh, I this makes sense to me. Any other questions or comments?
I thought this had already gone to council. Well, the uh the annexation did,
but the zoning has not. So I think they were just trying to go through the formal process. Um, so yes, ma'am. You got anything? I don't have anything else. See you back in a few weeks. Item seven, Pimbertton FMDP. [snorts] The owner and applicant requests approval of a final master development plan for Gonzalez Peton Street, lot one consisting of three single family residential units. Two of them are attached and one is a standalone on 0.22 acres zoned as R six highdensity residential located south of Peton Street and west of Union Park. As you can see, the applicant is proposing three single family residential units. Um the setbacks are a little unique here on the eastern side of the property. You've got the setback as 10 feet opposite of the common shared wall which is outlined in the zoning ordinance. Um on the west side we have that standalone residential unit. Now on this side it when you have uh single family units or single detach units that side setback is usually reduced to six feet. However, since the most restrictive applies in this case, it is going to stay at 10 feet since there is going to be a proposed uh PUD along this side. Um the applicant is going to be screening the um AC units on the back end of the property. And this is the architecture for those um units. The applicant is using um utility brick or CMU along the bottom. Um the staff requests that that be changed over to regular um brick for the foundation. Thank you.
Thank you. Is there uh representative from the applicant
Ferguson Greenwood Design I got one question I guess for you guys. I spoke with engineering during the preapp uh regarding sidewalks and grass strips uh with the infrastructure that's currently there. We've got roadside ditches uh just asking for that to possibly be removed. Is is that usually a condition? So, the zoning ordinance requires sidewalks based on site development. And what we've done in the past is they either put it in or they've put the money elsewhere, but we can't has a payment in lie of which you can't do. Can't do. So yeah, that's what I asked Aaron about during the preapp and that was what he told me. So
I guess question for Ben. That's still the case. Like you can't there's nothing there. Okay. Is that something I guess y'all will continue to work out between now and the We'll keep asking for it. This body will have to decide if it wants to vote on that or not. Okay. But there's no other sidewalk in the vicinity. Like the the thing that jumped out to me the is there any thing in the future to improve the rideway that's on the west side? Uh the we we spoke about in the preop and if we were going to do you know side loaded parking we'd have to
you know improve it but if it goes untouched then we didn't have to do anything with it. Okay. Um, but that if any improvements come in the future, I mean that'll be up to the city. Yeah, the city would have to because it's not I mean there's two parcels there that are kind of landlocked unless they have access off of something else. It it would have been good to have, you know, sideloaded [clears throat] driveways off of u a developed road there. But I mean, if those two I mean this has nothing to do with your project, but if those three parcels ever develop in the future, they'd be responsible for improving the rideway. Ones behind it to the south. Yeah.
I I'll have I'm going to have to drive it out there and look at it. As far as the roadside ditches, I mean, I'm you'd have to in order to put sidewalks in, you likely got to put carbon gutter in and you lose the roadside ditch and you've got no storm infrastructure to tie to when you do that. So, it's going to be very difficult. Well, we're also unclear how they're going to discharge their water quality in the rear. We're going to allow it to discharge into that unimproved right away and like through a level spreader or rip wrap like it'll sheet flow over the top. Y I mean that's better than a point discharge.
No, just add that in the narrative or note that on your plan so we know. Uh the only other comment I'll make is I I agree with the brick to grade for the foundation. Get that fixed. It's no problem. And that's just keeping in line with everything else we've approved in the past. Any other questions or comments? Okay, seeing none. See you back in a few weeks. Thanks, ma'am. Item eight, Pford Place revised FMDP.
All right. Thank you. Uh the owner and applicant request approval of a revised final master development plan for Habitat for Humanity Pathford Place uh to add two single family residential lots on two parcels totaling 2.67 plus minus acres zoned R six high density residential district located south of West Eastland and west of Roosevelt Circle. So it maybe is a little bit easier to show on the on this version of zoning map. So, it was um this lot right here at the corner that was uh recently uh zoned to or these two lots rather uh that were added or recently reszoned to R six I believe last year. Um and so the applicant is requesting to bring those or bring this lot in um with one existing home and then one uh proposed new home. Um they are asking for a exception um with the final master development plan which planning commission can approve um to the front yard setback for this house. Um they are asking for a front yard setback of 12.97 ft. Um the zoning requires 20. Um but this is kind of a weird situation in which um for the rest of Pford Place uh the street had a 50 foot wide rightway and then it kind of balloons out to 60 feet wide um in front of these two homes. are these two proposed homes and um it's the same distance from the street and the sidewalk just with some of that
in right away. Uh outside of that, staff had uh minor comments other than uh architecture wasn't included um with the initial submitt. Okay. Is there a representative present? Drew Ferguson, Greenwood Design. Happy to answer any questions. Drew, uh, I'm assuming the architect will match the original that's there, which architecture was included in that submitt. Okay. Yeah, we should be able to pull it.
Okay. Uh, and I don't have any I don't see any issues with the setback request, the variance request. Is there any other comments, questions? Seems very straightforward. See you back in a few weeks. Yep. See you. [clears throat] Item nine, Woods Crossing phase two.
Uh, good evening, commissioners. Brad Hickman, staff planner. The owner and applicant request approval of a final master development plan for the Woods Crossing phase 2 consisting of 22 single family lots on 7.95 acres zoned R8 PRD medium density residential planned residential development district located west of Woods Ferry Road and south of Nicholls Lane. Uh this uh FMDP is substantially similar to the PMDP. There are a few things that were dated on the PMDP such as the uh city limits on the location map. Uh we would like to see some increased line weights here because on this page you can't really tell which one they're referring to. Um engineering would like to see a culde-sac uh added here in the event that Kurpatre has not made the alignment on the adjoining property uh until such time that that's there. Uh we would also like to see the information for the TVA easement that you see passes through the property here uh along with the documentation showing they have the right to build roads beneath it. Um let's see the the roads this loop also lacks a name. We would like to see that something other than designated by a letter and uh addresses added to the lots here. Elevations are from a previous builder. Uh it's under a new builder now. So we'd just like to verify that these are still good.
That's all.
Thanks Brad. Is there a representative present? Uh Sean Winters, Dwey Engineering. Uh thanks Brad. Uh on the uh uh architecturals, those will be updated. We have those now and we'll we'll include those with the next. Um the only other comment we had was there was a comment about the side setbacks being six feet instead of five and a half. Um, and and I haven't had a chance to speak with staff yet, but we would request that those be maintained at 5 and a half per the uh approved at PMDP and the rest of the the rest of the development.
Okay. We've had something similar to that happen. Yeah, that's based on the building code change and this PMDP was prior to your setbacks. Okay, perfect. So, we're we're the FMPP is adhering to the PMDP that was approved prior to that. Okay. Um, other than that, I'm I'm h we're happy to make all the changes that staff is Okay. And then just working through with TVA to receive their approval. Uh, I guess how um question on the culde-sac. I mean, they're just showing uh rough placement of the culde-sac. Are they actually designing it?
So, we're just wanting a temporary turnaround because that's more than 150 ft and to get a school bus, trash truck, something turned around in there. It's kind of a race between if Kurpatre develops first and if you look at the Kurpatre plans, they actually show tying in and building some of this road. So, it's it's a race to whoever gets it there first. They may not need it, but we've asked for it just in case. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Uh, okay. Any other questions, comments? Seeing none, see you back in a few weeks. All right. Thank you.
Thank you. This is preliminary plat for what we just talked about. Okay. The [clears throat] owner and applicant requests approval of a preliminary plat for Woods Crossing phase 2 consisting of 22 single family lots on 7.95 acres zoned RA PRD medium density residential planned residential development district located west of Woodsferry Road and south of Nichols Lane. Uh given that most of this information was taken from the FMDP, we had similar comments okay
on this one as well. Um, yeah, there's nothing really else to say there. Okay. Representative John Winters, do we engineering? Happy to answer any questions. I don't have any other questions. This is very straightforward. Anyone else? No. All right. Seeing none, seen it back a few weeks. Thank you. Item 11, station camp infrastructure FMDP. And then item 12 will be station infrastructure preliminary plat together. Yes, ma'am.
Okay. [snorts] Yes. The owner applicant requests approval of the final master plan development for the station camp master plan horizontal infrastructure. It's totaling 83 acres. Um it's located west of Big Station Camp Creek and north of Highway 386. This is um the layout for the infrastructure only. Another minor um comments on the FMDP and the preliminary plat coincide together. So they're similar. Um this we we're looking for a subdivision name for this um other than the station camp. Maybe list the 911 assigned road names. U remove the residential lots that you see on there because this is just the infrastructure. Clarify the timing of the open space dedication. Provide timing for the different phases. Um further discussion maybe on um the um impact traffic the study impact was under review and I believe there's some still discussion on that also um to make sure that all the approvals through the hospital are connected to the big station. We're still talking about that as well. And then uh the greenway on the north side location.
Okay. And is that your comments for the preliminary plat as well? Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. Is there a representative present from the applicant? [snorts]
Hi again, ladies and gentlemen. Um, Kelly Hyatt with Maris 1222 Deumbreium Sweet 1200 Nashville, Tennessee. Um, as we've said, we're coming back for the FMDP and the preliminary associated preliminary plat for the major infrastructure of this project. Um, the only we will pick up a new name. We'll apply with all the rest of the staff comments. The only one we did want to chat through with you was there was a engineering comment about moving the trail um, greenway trail to the north side of the road instead of the south side. We liked the southside because of that way it would help um activate that green space area in the middle. Um we feel like people will cross into that as part of their workout or if there's kids playing or other parts of it anyways. And so the it appeared to me like the genesis of the question was a safe crossing. And so we'd like to work through a safe crossing other alternatives than moving it. So whether it's uh signalize pedestrian crossing pedestals or moving it to another location, uh we'd like to work through that with staff, but I do feel like it's more beneficial for the development to keep it on the south side.
And I guess engineering was that just because there was only one crossing they had to make. There's Yeah, there's one crossing. It's in a curve. It's a horizontal side distance problem. So, if they want to do if they want to move that or do a hawk system or something, I think that we can work with them on that. And I guess if they keep it on the south side, would they have to move their crossing further south or can they keep it in line with the road? I'll let them decide on that. Okay. Yeah. I didn't I mean, it could be on either side technically, but it's just crossing over in a in a curve. That's kind of the issue there.
Okay. And then I guess my uh comment was going to be as far as the traffic study's concerned um when do you think you'll have comments back? So we received the traffic study. We reviewed it. We had our uh consultant review it. We've given them comments before Christmas. They're working through those. Um the only issue that Aaron wanted to point out was just the level of service F that comes in on that road there which we're going to fix. Okay. You're causing your own problems. So yeah. Okay.
Um yeah, we got the comments. Um there was the only comment in the traffic center that we wanted to look into more detail of was they want a del lane on the northern full access drive which we just wanted to make sure would fit within the existing rideway. And so Jason was looking at over the holidays and he had the audacity to take some days off. So we didn't get that answer quite yet. He got that today. Got a question into Aaron to verify that. And so we should be getting uh the revised traffic study in this week, but other than that, it it should work is the answer. And so basically, yes, we'll comply with everything the traffic. Will we have a copy of that in the staff report? The traffic study? Yeah, we can include it if you want. Yeah.
Yeah, please. Absolutely. And the preliminary plat is just to dedicate the rightway. Yep. Okay. So with any of the other adjust adjustments that are made to address the infrastructure either from the t the traffic study like fixing that level of service or anything else will move concurrently with So the lots that are shown at the bottom of this aren't included in the preliminary plat. No. Okay. No, we [snorts] said we would after talking we clean that up later that second plat. And then they
uh Yeah. So, when we were in front of y'all last time, we that we have [snorts] had not had executed anything with the hospital. We have since got executed intent for an agreement, but the hospital doesn't move very quickly. And so, we do not have a fully executed agreement. Um, we defer to your judgment on whether or not you feel like we can continue through a planning commission vote without having that document fully inked and then make that a condition that staff can acknowledge that it's fully executed or whether or not you would need us to have that executed before we come in front of you. Again, it I mean, you're not going to be able to construct that road without it. No, I mean it's not I just
and we've been pretty adamant since the beginning that that needs to be constructed in order for this development to function. So y I mean I'm I am personally okay with a condition being there, but I we'll leave that up to the commission. No, I agree with you. I mean they wouldn't be able to come back in with a revised plan that [snorts] doesn't show the roads.
Correct. I I mean I I I like how it's been I guess redrawn where the hospital ties back into the main boulevard coming through the development. Um my I mean my concern wasn't so much with the obviously the the agreement needs to be in place. I I get that in order for this whole thing to function, but my uh comments or concerns were more so with the traffic study and is the is the like what's there sufficient to handle the amount of traffic that's coming in and out of the development, but well, that's up to the traffic study.
Fix it, redo the signal timing, and move the signal poles that they just got installed. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Would you be able to get some kind of agent letter at a minimum to support the application with the condition that they fully execute everything later? Is that something just I mean they would be a letter that that you're representing them because you're that land that's part of their land. I have an agreement with a letter of intent that says I do have that currently. Yes. And our plan would be eventually, and I think we've talked about this, that little triangle piece would be brought in as part, it's already zoned properly. We would bring it in as part of the retail FMDP.
So y'all would And is the LOI for you to purchase that triangle? Yeah. And that's part of it's okay. It's whether or not we do the construction on their land with them having an easement until it's dedicated or whether we buy it. Who who owns it during construction? The LOI has been executed which allows y'all to get through council. Yes. Okay. Yeah. The LOI is executed. It's just a matter of the lawyers deciding like I said who who owns it and who them coming along to like the bond and their ability to self-execute and we've like you know city gallon got you covered on that and getting them comfortable that what the city is already requiring is sufficient.
The only other question I have for engineering is the northern access. This lines up with a driveway on the opposite side of the road. I think that's through a PMDP, but is the driveway on the opposite side of the road full access? I Jason Morlock, former Lucas. Uh, what we had talked about with staff was that yet to be constructed and we would decide where to put that and they would line up with us. That was a conversation I had with Aaron. Okay. And then I I guess the but the that full access meets spacing requirements and whatnot for big station camp. Okay. Yeah, that's why we made them move it all the way to the furthest point north on their property.
Okay. I don't have any other comments. Anyone else? Seeing none. See you back a few weeks.
Thank you. All right. Item 13, 140 Northwater Avenue site plan. Yes. The owner applicant is requesting um um approval for a 140 North uh Waters Avenue. They're looking for a suspended balcony. Um, it's coming to you because it's in the um the downtown historic um national registry district. That's why it's coming to you. Uh it's a five foot I'll get it to you. It's a five- foot suspended balcony over the sidewalk. Right now, we're looking for some cleanup on the plat itself. Maybe um identifying the sidewalks on both Northwater and on Franklin Road. Um this will go to city council for approval and um they will need to provide a hold harmless agreement and a um a liability insurance for this but
okay minor correction.
Thank you. Is there a representative from the applicant present? Um, hello. My name is Craig Daly. I'm a structural engineer and the designer on the project. Um, no real questions. We've been through the preapp process and kind of modified the design several times to get it like it like it is now. Um, basically there's an existing roof over the sidewalk at that location now. We'd be taking that roof down and basically building a new roof that's doubles as a balcony for the residential property or the residential unit that's on the second floor of that building. Okay. This this isn't necessarily a question for y'all. I'm not This is a dumb question. Do we have a a historic commission?
Yes. It was brought to it last week. Okay. Yeah. So, this property is in the National Register District for downtown, but that is a state that's not us. It's not locally designated. Okay. Because it's not locally designated. It doesn't go to the store commission. So, we sent it to this body. Okay. Cool. Well, it came in the air last week, though. That was a different one. Oh. Oh, okay. That was Yeah, we're having another one. That was more of a faux balcony. This is an actual balcony. Okay. Oh, okay. Cool. All right. [clears throat] Okay. I mean, this I think this helps enhance downtown. So, I don't have any other questions or comments.
Only other thing I'll say is we're fine with the indentification agreement. I'll work with Mr. Allen. Okay. And that's very typical. So, Awesome. I I did have one question on staff notes. They were talking about uh referencing the electric planning section of the electric development infrastructure policy and I need to know who to talk to to understand that a little better. I think that the stock note from our department. Okay. So, I think just I would check in with them. Sure. And just see if there's anything they need. Okay. Great. Thank [snorts] you. And then Marty, would you state your name for Maryanne? All right. Marty Cook. I represent the owner.
Awesome. Thanks guys. See you back in a few weeks. Item 14, City Light Church site plan. The owner and applicant requests approval of a site plan for Citylight Baptist Church to add 36 parking spaces to the existing parking lot on 1.15 acres zoned as R15 medium density residential located west of Luckfor Road and east of Lake Point Drive. Staff had some minor comments overall on this site. Um, the applicant is proposing to add parking on the eastern side of this property right up against Lock for Road and then over here budding up to this uh property line. Again, they are proposing 34 spaces and they're up to a grand total of 53 overall on the site, which is two under the maximum that is outlined in the zoning ordinance. Um staff does have a concern with the parking on the north side of the existing lot over here. Um just mainly for the um impact it could have on the neighbor next door. Um the zoning ordinance says that parking lots can encroach right up to the property line on developments. Um there is usually a perimeter landscape requirement that the zoning ordinance outlies for or outlines for parking. Um in this particular instance there is none that is required because R15 to R15 does not have a buffer yard requirement. Um however, the zoning ordinance also says that an increase in the intensity of the use would require this body to
propose any um additional landscaping or screening requirements to put onto this project. So the or staff is proposing that this lot be brought back a little bit to mitigate any potential hazards of cars hitting the fence that it's right next to. adding some uh wheel stops there as well. And then whatever this body would like to see as far as like additional screening or landscaping between the parking lot and this fence would also be added there as well. Um, thank you. Okay. Thank you. Is there a representative from the applicant?
Good evening. Zach Elliot uh from Green Lid Design. And yes, that we uh we have read through her comments and uh pretty well in agreement with with uh what you all have uh uh proposed here, but that was that was the one we were going to want to discuss was that uh piece about the buffer. Um I think the uh sort of what we were going off of to is that our neighbors there, you know, they don't have any landscaping to speak of. there is a fence dividing us along that north property line um already existing. Um and um I I certainly just to speak on that piece about the increase in intensity of use. I think my only offering in in in response to that would just be that we're um we are offsetting the increasing amount of imperous areas we're doing for parking um with these bio retention features and other storm water features. So, we're doing we're, you know, we're willing to mitigate as best we can um any, you know, increase in sort of activity on the site. Um but, um it, as you can see, it already is quite tight back in there.
Okay. My my only question whenever I saw the site plan was was whether or not the site met the impervious service requirements, but does it Uh yes we are. Yes we are under as far as you mean the zoning. Well yeah like the like per yeah the maximum area. Yes. And we're meeting Okay. Yes. I mean that was my own. We are increasing we are increasing pvious area but we're we're showing a net decrease in in runoff uh in our in our calcs. I'll speak up. So, no, I know this property and if I'm not mistaken, well, this has been a church for a long time, right? Not necessarily this church,
right? It was in Yes.
Well, when you say that it's in the R15 district, if I'm not mistaken, the R15 district overlay was applied to this property. This property was in place and a church before the R15 district was applied to it. That was an overlay put onto it in 1970s. Um, so when we talk about and footnote, I think the building to the right that's incorporated into this was added. The church bought that later on. That was a residence at first. So, you know, we're saying that it doesn't require any uh parking lot perimeter screening. Um, this wouldn't normally have been allowed to be built in the R15 district. Um, I think we need to give some some consideration to the neighbors as we expand the use of this and have more parking. I'm not saying a huge
buffer yard, but at least fit some landscaping where we can. Yeah. Especially with headlights. The whole purpose of the buffer along the parking areas is uh if there's a usage at night, you know, cars pull into those parking spaces. We don't want car lights to be shining into these folks back window. That was staff's concern and I agree with that. We need to we need to have some buffer to the parking lot hedges. I mean fake hedges is is the because I'm looking at the landscape plan. It looks like the only proposed landscaping is within the bop ponds. Yeah. Is that correct?
Uh currently, but yes, we we certainly will provide that R excuse me type 15 uh along the along the frontage. We were planning to add that in as well. Oh, so just along the just along lock four. Yeah. Yes, we were we were in full agreement with that comment about promoting a a um type 15. I think where uh I think where John is getting I know I know it's it's basically impossible right now because of the existing pavement along the south side, but along the north side there's some opportunity to place like some there's a uh possibility to place some trees along that northern boundary. There's a fence all along that. Correct. There is. Okay.
Oh, there is a big fence. Yeah, a fence already. I don't necessarily know if shrubs make sense, but maybe No, a few trees. I didn't know about as far as headlights. Yeah. So, there's no pick buffer, but as far as like at least making an attempt to have something there, I don't know. I think we got our most concerned just right. Just right here. Yeah. Like is there a way to pull that back five feet? Just give it a little bit of breathing room. Yeah. Um I think even if even if it meant you lost two parking spaces.
Yeah. Um I think the you know that drive we're given right there is is 20 which is sort of the standard minimum for for those oneway 90s. Um, but I see what you mean. If we rotated it in some and then lost a space or two that we would have a a grass strip. Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I think I love the concept. I love the idea that you're expanding the use of the church. Gosh, I wish I could walk to church. That would be it's a great concept. I just want to be mindful of all those neighbors there. Absolutely.
Absolutely. I guess my only I guess my comment for engineering this doesn't conflict with any kind of expansion of block four in the future does it? No. Um we have a project that will include a sidewalk on the east side. Um, but now that you've mentioned it, just wanted to bring uh to your attention that the three driveways do not work with the lock 4 classification because it's actually a minor arterial. And so for adjacent driveways, you would need to have 230 to 300 feet between the spacing. So we recommended that they take out the center driveway.
I agree with that. Yep. Are you okay with that, Zach? Uh, and there's no sort of grandfathering in for the fact that you've got these entrances. Well, I mean, by virtue of that, we're we are disturbing them and expanding them. It the residents had one driveway, the church had two driveways. So, you're you have three driveways. We kind of talked in the preapp about maybe losing a driveway, but when you submitted this, it came back with three driveways. So, I think Yeah, we were thinking about from a circulation standpoint, um, you know, just giving them a more flow through there. But I yeah, that middle one if if if we can leave the other two, I think that's that would be the one to go.
And then just signage is going to be critical here, just so people know which way they're going, Jeff. Yes, it is. Yes. Will that make the entire will that make the entire parking lot one way? Um Well, and then yes, which was one that was again I think kind of a rationale we had for keeping that middle and making it Well, and that that was my other point. Did you want to do angle parking? the the northern entrance. Um we have we looked into that and you know you lose bases during the southern entrance is only a single lane and then they've got oneway directional areas. Are you planning to improve the let's call it the southern the middle and the northern entrance? Just um
planning to improve the southern and northern entrance. It looks like you're changing the the layout and configuration. Yeah, we're we're bringing them up to standard width within the right of way and and beyond up into the site. Um, you know, part of that was grading changes just necessary to get water to flow certain ways and into our biopons. But to to CJ's point, their single width entrances uh would engineering have a problem with allowing them to have wider entrances on the north and south and get rid of the center entrance so that they can have two-way traffic because you don't want this to have to be a one-way parking lot, right? They could they could do that. That'd be fine. Room um at least on the south. Yeah, that would be challenging to
The only the only way you'd have the room is if you got rid of your parallel spaces. Yeah, but I don't know if that's the play. I don't I don't know how. Well, we actually gain back a parallel space potentially if we get rid of that center uh drop, you know, entrance. Uh I think we could probably get back a parallel. So, if we needed to then sacrifice one elsewhere. Um, but yeah, I I that would be a great compromise uh to But you're still I mean, how But your your drive your drive aisle width out front is still not wide enough to have two-way traffic. How wide is it? Uh down at the south. No, just north and north and south.
Oh, parallel to the left. How wide how wide is that drive? Oh, you have one way arrows on there. I have one way arrows. Yeah, we got oneway arrows. It's 14 feet in the north and then I think it's currently on the south shown as 12, but it probably [clears throat] need to be I think but that I'm talking about the drive that runs north and south that you're adding. Oh, um Oh, oh, I'm sorry. In parallel. Yeah, it's a oneway south currently.
And it kind of has to be because again it's it's a narrow we we originally had it two-way, but then the buffer came into play, so we had to push it back. Um, I was going to say too, you know, this [clears throat] this flow up here, one of the thought processes for having this two-way out in the middle. I was, you know, sort of thinking about the driver here, you know, who is parked in here has to get out and for them not, if they had to, if they wanted to get out, they'd have to go up here and then all the way down here. So, this was giving them a way out early. Do you know what I'm saying? in the middle. It was giving them a way to get out halfway instead of driving all the way down and having to leave at the south. So, the the whole flow I think was benefited by that middle two-way situation. Um, but this the fact of the matter is yeah, this this aisle right here has to be one way. There's just no way to really
engineering was your was your objection the number of curb cuts or the distance between curb cuts distance between because of the classification of the road. That's already something y'all discussed in the preapp. Yeah. Okay. I think you got your feedback. Any other questions, comments? I see none. I'll see you back in a couple weeks. Thanks. [snorts] Item 15, Gallatton Industrial Center, phase three, lot three.
The [clears throat] owner applicant requests approval of a final plaque for Gallatin Industrial Center, phase 3, lot 3 to dedicate Commerce Rideway on 3.32 acres zoned IR Industrial Residential District located south of Commerce Way and west of Gateway Drive. Uh you can see the uh well first of all the city is the applicant here and you can see in the hashed area the area to be dedicated. Otherwise it's pretty straightforward. Uh staff had very minor comments for this. Okay. Representative from the applicant. Excuse me sir.
We're in agreement with all comments. I'm here for any questions you might have. Please state your name and address. Brian Rashnider with uh City of Gallatton Engineering Division 633 Long Hollow Pike. Seems very straightforward.
So what happened was when I was in the private sector, we dedicated a plat to uh set up these lots. Uh that was back in 2014. After that, when Betta was announced coming to Gallatin, um there was an SIA project that T do DOT funded and worked with us as a partner and created uh this road and created actually this problem. Uh they were trying to procure some land uh to the north west quadrant there and that land owner didn't want to give right away, so they had to shift the road, but it never was formally platted or dedicated. It was conveyed by deed. So this is just a cleanup.
Okay, makes sense. Cool. I don't have any other comments. Yeah. Okay. You know, I I I like coming to these because I I just wait for whatever comment you have. It's fun. Yeah. This one's easy.
I'm I I like how you blame T dot. All right. Uh I guess we'll move on to the uh next agenda item. Other business. Don't forget start of the new year. Um you need to make sure you have your statements of interest filings notice done through whatever that requires. Just wanted to send a reminder.
Yeah. Please don't forget to do that because I forgot to do that last year. And well, I didn't forget. I just all the emails from the state were going to my spam folder and uh I ended up getting a letter stating that I was gonna have to pay a $10,000 fine if I did not file it by a certain date and I had to write a letter and it had to go in front of a board. So don't do that. It all it all worked out. But o [clears throat] if you're redoing it and it's online, it's a simple process and it completely it's just one pager. But if you don't do it, it Yeah. And you are supposed to update it if things change. Yes.
It occurred to me like late last year. Oh, I changed banks. I better change that. Yeah. So, yeah. Friendly reminder. You know who the email came from? It would have been from uh Hold on one second. I had it pulled up. You can Google state. It It's normally It's normally Morgan Tiger, okay, from it's Morgan Tiger tn.gov is what it comes from, but it's the Bureau of Ethics and Campaign Finance. I don't have anything else. I guess we got announcements. Any announcements?
No announcements at this point in time. Uh we're getting closer on the zoning ordinance draft, getting ready to start up that process. Um need to make a few tweaks on our end and hope and get you guys your draft to start. Awesome. Thank you. Okay.
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