City Council - Regular Meeting

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All right. Good evening, everybody. We have 6 p.m. on June 1st, 2026. I'm going to go ahead and call this meeting of the City Council to order. I note the absence of Council Member Bruce McDougall.

Mayor Walters.

Ms. Moulton.

I move to excuse Council Member McDougall. Second. Second.

Motion and a second to excuse Councilmember Bruce McDougall. If there's no objection, hearing none, his absence is excused. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, thank you, everybody, we have some announcements and one committee report this evening. which we will do here in a moment. Okay, first of all happy pride month it's the first day of June. you're going to hear a little bit more about it in a minute, but I want to remind everybody of the pride parade, which is June 21. June is also Orca Action Month, which I guess is a thing. And there are many opportunities, some of which you'll hear about here in a minute, to support orca, which are not actually whales, by the way. They are a very large dolphin. Not everybody knows that, but back up one. Okay. So one of the ways that you can help our ORCA is by adopting a storm drain. We've just launched this program. If you go to wa.adoptadrain.org with the hyphens that you see on the screen there, you can sign up to adopt a drain. Your job then is to keep that drain clear and keep weird stuff like oil and that kind of thing out of it. And then you can track your impact. So this is a great way actually to reduce water pollution through storm reduction of stormwater pollution, and it helps out ORCA along with everybody else downstream. We have a couple of programs going on at the Senior Center at the library. We'll give you a little rundown of those. First of all, the police department is running an AI Made Simple presentation. That's Wednesday, June 3rd at the Senior Center. So if you're interested in artificial intelligence, you'll get a little overview of that. Wednesday, June 3rd, 1 to 2 p.m. The Senior Center is also running a program on biological aging. This is Wednesday, June 3rd as well, 2 o'clock to 3 o'clock. Registration on this one is required, but it is free. Thursday, June 4th at the Senior Center from 1.30 to 2.30, you can hear from a person. His name is Charlie Ha-Heh. it's risky to try to pronounce some of these names, who was a rifleman with the Army 25th Infantry Division. And he'll be showing some of his photography from the actual Vietnam War. Of course, this coming Friday is First Friday Art Walk downtown. It's a great opportunity to get out, see some of the art that we treasure so much downtown. And also word on the street is that the mayor will be performing for some reason in front of Bayshore from six to seven. So check that out as well. and if you don't get enough of the mayor then uh june 10th at the senior center will be one of our regular quarterly conversations with the mayor not restricted to seniors anybody can attend you can ask questions you can hear about what's going on and you can provide your feedback bark in the park still coming up june 13th 10 a.m storvick park it's going to be great don't miss it And then 4th of July is coming. So this year for the 4th of July parade, we are requiring registration for all the groups that want to participate. That way we can provide you information about the rules that we have for participation in the parade, including how to hand out candy without getting kids run over. So please go to anacorteswa.gov slash 4th. Sign up if you're interested in participating. participating in the parade. No fee is required, but we want to get your contact information and make sure that we can contact you before the 4th of July. Okay, and now we are here at announcements and committee reports. We have one report from the Public Works Committee, so we'll do that one first, and then we've got a presentation.

Mayor Walters?

Mr. Fantini.

Yes, the Public Works Committee met just before this meeting. We got a few updates. First of all, on our wastewater treatment plant alternative analysis report, they're meeting with the consultant. Thanks to all of the council members for contributing their feedback. They are meeting with the consultant and we should have next steps coming to council for sometime this summer. So stay forward, look forward to that. Also streetscapes, the first 40 feet plan. There's going to be a presentation to council on that plan. And this is going to be similar to how the housing action plan was put together, where there's a menu that's going to be created that will then go to committee who will then champion ideas and out of committee to bring to the full council to start to make some of that plan a reality. So just to be clear, we are not green lighting at this time the entire plan and everything that was in the 40 feet streetscapes plan, but we will be getting a menu together. Also, we got an update. We are pivoting. So you may remember that we were going to do a repair on some stormwater pipes for the heavy haul route. But after further analysis, they've been able to stabilize that situation and they're monitoring it. So there's no major issues have come up since. And because the city and the port have been doing so well working together right now, and with their West Basin project, the port's going to be putting in all new storm lines, which are going to make the old storm lines not needed. So we can free up that $500,000 because... the fix that they have in place for the old storm lines will hold us till the new storm lines are put in place. So that's great. And then some of that 500K, we're not reallocating all of it, but some of it they are looking at, they've had a lot of issues up on West 5th between Kansas and Illinois with a lot of stormwater drainage and damage that happened the last time that we had big storms a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. So they're going to be able to do some repair in that area because around that corner, part of the road is starting to erode into the ditch also. So that's what we have from Public Works. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. So that brings us to the presentation of the Pride Parade poster. Who is doing this presentation? All right. Do you want to come up to the podium and turn the mic on, adjust the mic for your height, and tell us a few words about it?

Check, check.

Wow. So fun.

All right. Hello, Mayor. Thank you for having me. City Council, thank you for having me. My name is Mason Cole. I'm the chair of the Anacortes Pride Board. I would like to thank you first and foremost for my multiple applications for this event because things changed this year with location and time. And so I appreciate you kind of going over that with me multiple times. that was wonderful i really appreciate also that you are continuing to create a safe inclusive space in our town for this population and i really hope that you all choose to join us and walk alongside us and so i wanted to present you with our logo contest winners kind of Stronger Together logo here is upside down, sorry. We are doing a nod to the first parade and that first kind of slogan of Stronger Together. And Emmett Anderson, a resident, a kind of young adult in town designed this. And I just thought that it would be wonderful to provide to you. So thank you again very much. And I hope to see you all there. Oh, yeah. June 21st. It's at the Arts Depot is the event, and it's starting at 1 p.m., not 11 a.m. like it used to. So those are some of the changes. Do you have any other questions?

And the parade?

Yes, the parade starts at 1, and then directly afterwards, but kind of roughly 2 to 5 at the Arts Depot Center.

Okay, great. Well, the poster looks like it might even be almost – consistent with Orca Action Month too.

Yeah, that's right. I planned that.

Yeah, I sure did. Council, do you have any questions or comments? And when we get done with those, I'll come down and accept the poster and we take photo.

Mayor Walters. Mr. Young. Well, first of all, I wanted to applaud Pride for powering forward. Also, just for the love of being out and about in this community. I mean, Pride really is all about all of us, regardless of where you are on the spectrum, what you look like, who you love, who you don't, that's okay. And what this really is about is about showcasing that love and the generous amount that we have here in Anacortes. i happen to be part of this group and i'm thankful we've been with my spouse 34 years and we continue to both of us to be public servants in this community and we do it wonderfully who do you have with you out here you have your boy with you yeah i do so kind of from

We have Eric Berg, James Finley, Jim Richardson, Marisa Martin. We have Dr. Joseph Mulcahy and LJ Johnson here. That's a board and friends, board and spouses and friends. Thank you. Yeah.

Mayor Walters.

Ms. Fantini.

Thanks. Hi, Mason. Hi. I just wanted to take a moment and just appreciate what you all are doing, because I feel like we're at a time where things are getting a little bit harder to be yourself. People are making it a little bit harder. And I just appreciate that your group is out there still beating that drum and showing who you are. And I'm just proud to support that.

And we will continue.

Thank you.

Anybody else?

One last comment, Mr. Walters, Mayor Walters. Mr. Young.

Last thing is part of what I think at least some of us are saying to our beloved community here in Anacortes across the spectrum is that all of us, all of us have different functions in our community, all of us. Our stakeholders in this community, all of us, are working hard in respective fields. All of us are at the belly of what makes not only this county work, this city work, but it also makes our country work. We have always been here, Civil War all the way forward. We've served in the military. We've died on the battlefield. We've done everything that we can do. We've raised children, helped children. And so part of this is to acknowledge that to our world, that we're happy to be part of who we are, what we are. But more importantly, we're one of you. We are your family. We are your neighbors, and we are your friends. And we really want to just... Show love. And that's what this is about. And so sometimes it's called tough love. But in this case, it's a good love to make sure everybody knows that we are all about all of us and all of you.

And we're stronger together.

Right. Thank you. Ms. Gillian-McGrath?

I mean, thank you. I just want to say thank you all for coming here and presenting the poster. My kids are six and eight, and we're at the first parade, and it's a really healthy experience for them to have. They love coming to it. They love going to the after party and it's really heartwarming to be able to know that they're growing up in an environment that this is this is normal and these are people that they know and care about and look up to in the community so thank you all thank you all right thank you council now uh would you join me on stage here for a photo and mr oglen would you uh take our photo

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. And you can be. Is. Having. Shares.

all right thank you everybody uh that concludes the prepared announcements and committee reports council do you have any other announcements none all right we'll move on to public comment did we have anyone signed up for public comment mr hoagland did no that's all right that's right if you don't have the sheet that's fine uh if uh anybody signed up for public comment you Come on up to the podium, adjust the mic, tell us your name and the neighborhood or address you live at, and you'll have three minutes.

Excuse me. Good evening, all. Mark Nyhart, Ward 2. Been up here before. I'm speaking on behalf of Smart Growth Anacortes. I'd like to lead with Smart Growth Anacortes' vision statement, and that is to have Anacortes as a premier example of a city in which assertive, knowledgeable, and actively engaged residents The owners and financiers of Anacortes are working with city staff, the mayor, the city council in a transparent, respectful, collaborative environment for the benefit of all who live, work, and serve in Anacortes. To that end, I'm speaking, SGA, Smart Growth Anacortes, is speaking on the behalf of these neighbors that are soon to be negatively affected by the Herringstad short plat determination that had limited public notification to the neighbors and no neighborhood meeting. City ordinances should be a way to ensure the neighbors to developments are part of a city development neighbors permitting conversation, not to dismiss the neighbors in favor of political expedience. To this end, SGA asked the council to undo the injustice done to these neighbors and requests the city to take three steps backwards. and have not one, but three neighborhood meetings to restore trust in the system led by this council. First meeting is to discuss the issues the neighbors present. Second meeting is to discuss the city's responses to the neighbors' issues. Third meeting is to negotiate a win-win MDNS for the city the developer, and the neighbors, and as a result, this council trust restored in the system. Last fall, I'll remind you again, six of you sitting in front of me now came down, sat around a table right here, and with senior staff promised to do a better job with public involvement. This is an opportunity to make good on that promise. Promises made, promises kept, or not. Thank you.

Thank you. I now have the sign-up sheet. And there are two Janets. And Janet Andrews, you should be on deck. And the other Janet, whose name I'm going to let you pronounce yourself, is up next. Yes, so, yeah, come on up to the podium.

Is that working? Okay, thank you. Hi, my name's Janet Parajan. I'm in Ward 2, Anacortes. I just want to say I support the comments by Smart Growth Anacortes that R1 zone projects deserve more public involvement. I chose Anacortes as my forever home after a lot of review. And I read all the documents online, the maps, the zoning information, the city plan. I called the planning staff. They answered the phone. It's a special place. It all convinced me that people here value this beautiful, unique island and are planning for smart growth. Unfortunately, my experience with the Herakstad-Short Platte subdivision process has been disappointing. I live 250 feet from the applicant's property, but only found out about the application halfway through the 14 day comment period, and then was told I had one chance to comment into a black box. No response. I submitted four pages of comments to point out SEPA gaps and inconsistent information, and to ask why the project scope doesn't address offsite impacts of stormwater, which we heard about from you. Our area has no drains and relies on soil to absorb runoff, so it's a concern. It also doesn't address the potential impact of building 4,000 square foot homes, and it is unclear how many homes there will be. This is not a routine application. It is development in an R1 low density zone with critical habitat, and it deserves discussion. I have questions, but there doesn't seem to be an opportunity for dialogue. That is not communication. The applicant has property rights, but so do the neighbors. The process I am experiencing is dismissive and not what I thought this town was in spirit. Can you get us a neighborhood meeting per Anacortes Municipal Code 19.20.030? It should be required for R1 zone areas as even small projects require SEPA review due to environmental constraints on development. In this case, it is especially important Given the presence of the happy valley stream the applicability of the critical area ordinance and concerns about stormwater runoff impacts to existing homes on septic. I also believe this project process and decision will set a precedent for future applications. If it's not done right, it will open the gates to loss of habitat and urbanization of the R1 low-density transition zone. I've seen this happen before. It's why I left my mountain town in Colorado, and I want to see us avoid those mistakes. I love Anacortes. I think I love it even more after what I saw tonight, and I love my neighborhood. I just want to have a voice in what develops, especially next door. Thank you.

Thank you. Next up, Janet Andrews.

Hello. My name is Janet Andrews, Ward 2. My husband and I live on Whistle Lake Road across from the water tanks and 20 feet from the Herringstad property. We moved here from San Diego during COVID. We wanted the benefits of a small town, our own vegetable garden, views of wildlife, and the chance to buy groceries without getting stuck in traffic. We found a house on an acre of land and learned the parcel was part of a four-acre track developed by Daryl Newton. His permit decades ago was to build duplexes, but his request denied, and he built four single-family homes, each on one acre. That history gave us some assurance that we were buying real estate in a non-dense area of Anacortes, which is obvious if you take four minutes to drive by our area. We bought the house and two years later lived in two rooms for six months for our renovation. But on April Fool's Day, we received the Herringstad short plat notice. We had 14 days until tax day to respond. Good planning on their part. We knew the Herringstads were moving out of state, but I was shocked by the plan to divvy up their 2.9-acre property and add three 4,000-square-foot two-story homes on little more land than our one acre. Plus, these homes could add ADUs. All that new housing would be tucked in between Hayden Road and our backyard, not far from our master bedroom. I could not believe we had only 14 days to respond. We again looked at the Knudsen history and realized how different the process had been. Back then, the city had a public neighborhood meeting and dozens of residents protested the plans. The result was one house on one acre proposed and accepted. I continue to wonder why there was no opportunity for our neighborhood to learn about this project since the city and applicant have gone back and forth for more than a year. Even the multitude of walkers, runners, and bikers on Whistle Lake Road and Hayden would be interested. And since April 1st, I've also wondered why a person's last significant act in a neighborhood they enjoyed for 30 plus years would be an act that negatively changes that neighborhood and the environment and wildlife forever. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next speaker, Marty Evans.

Thank you, Janet and Mark. I'm here also as the next door neighbor. And just to wrap up.

Could you get a little closer? Thank you.

To wrap up the Herringstad grumbles, I'm Karen Nimby, representing from Ward 2 at 500 Haddon Road. When we bought our property, my son was two, he's 10 now, and we were told off the bat, first walk through, the neighbors were planning to subdivide, but in looking at the R1 zone structure, it was like, okay, a half acre per house, we're good with that. And instead of seeing that, we're just finding dale herringstad a civil engineer surveyor who has done much work with the city over many years his entire career he's raised his family here to pull off condensing three new houses between our property and his while keeping his horse barn keeping their open space but packing three properties right along my fence line Amazon trucks, everything is not the Haddon Road that I fell in love with, that made me fall in love with Anacortes the first time I ever came here and went to Whistle Lake, like baptized my son in Whistle Lake. And it's like, we could live here. And we got that property. And to see all the trees like slated to be cut that surround us. is not equitable not fair not what we believed we were buying um i did the math i believe it's like 1.13 acres that they're actually packing three properties into instead of keeping the half acre allotment in r1 and r1 is a beautiful it's a complete unicorn zoning rule and that is um what it was designed to do to buffer the transition from city to county land. And as Dale professionally wiggles through each loophole and crochets his ideal retirement, we are left holding the bag. And on a wetland property, this president throws the entire R1 concept and structure to the wayside, so this is important, I believe, for me economically, for our neighbors. Their Herringstad tree stand is the only big trees in our neighborhood, and that makes it feel Northwest-y. Otherwise, we're in the suburbs, and I didn't want to be in the suburbs. I would have gone for sunset views. I would have gone for, like, a bike ride to the grocery store. Instead, we went for a green, lovely fishbowl in privacy, and this robs us of that. So I hope that we can come to a consensus and have a special neighborhood review and work with Dale. And instead, yeah.

Thank you.

Thanks.

All right, that concludes the list of those who have signed up. Anyone else like to provide public comment at this time? Come on up.

Thank you. I have lived in Anacortes quite a while. I'm now at Cap Sunday Retirement Home. We are happy there, with one exception, and this is where you get to tell me where to go. Easy on that. We would like to be able to get from there across 32nd Street so that we can enjoy the park. Do you have a suggestion where we would take... or care or how we would find out.

Carol, can you provide your full name for the record?

My full name is Carol Oglesby. Thank you. I'm here at Banner Curtis.

Does that conclude your comment? Yes. All right. Perfect. Thank you very much. That project, Crosswalk, is in progress. We're glad we can make somebody happy tonight. All right. Anybody else for tonight's public comment? Anybody online? All right. Moving on then, our next order of business is the consent agenda. We have three items on it. Council.

Mayor Walters.

Go right ahead.

Ms. Moulton.

I move to approve the consent agenda as presented.

We have a motion and a second to approve the consent agenda. There's no discussion allowed on the consent agenda. Would anyone like to pull any items? Hearing none, we'll move to a vote on the consent agenda. The motion is to approve it. All those in favor, say aye.

Aye.

All those opposed, say no. The ayes have it. The consent agenda is approved. Moving on to our only other item of business, which is ordinance 5031, updating AMC 12.60 regarding complete streets. Mr. Lee, our public works director, will present this item.

Good evening, Mayor, Council and those in attendance. I will load up this PowerPoint and then get to telling you about our ordinance that I'm bringing forward. It's for updating our update AMC 12.60 for our Complete Streets Ordinance. And so Complete Streets are basically the, uh, uh, nationwide initiative to develop streets for all users, uh, pedestrians, bicyclists, uh, public transit, ADA features, stuff like that. Uh, typically all streets, an incomplete street is designed just for vehicle access. And this is an initiative to, to build out the full street so that it's equitable for all users, anyone, um, from all walks of life to use transportation features across the city. So why are we updating it? The ordinance in the code hasn't been updated since 2012. A lot of new language, new policies have come out since then. And so we're improving the language to be more clear about what our goals and policies are regarding building complete streets throughout town. And also, and maybe most importantly, this helps us with state grant agencies like the Transportation Improvement Board and become more eligible for various grants. The TIB has a grant program called Complete Streets. So they do check code to see what the city's policies are regarding this type of work. And of course, it aligns with state RCW. So the key updates that we provided in your packets, just like I said before, expanded more clear information regarding city's policy, guidance and applicability standards, establishing more formal exception criteria when a complete street isn't required, and that will be per the city engineer or his designee. And just more clarifying references to our ADA standards, multimodal safety, and improvements in our engineering standards. And lastly, we did receive public comment this morning with some edits from Evergreen Islands. I listed the changes here of what the suggested edits were. were from those comments, a small definition added, the public comment also included questions about why trail wasn't included and typically complete streets doesn't include trails. So we added a shared use path to try to address that comment as well. Some other minor changes and then adding shorelines to one of the sections Staff recommends that those changes be incorporated when the draft is brought back for the second read. And that is all I have. Happy to answer any other questions.

Council, do you have any questions?

Mayor Walters?

Mr. Pantini.

I just have a couple. So after reading this, it's a really good policy at its core. A couple of questions. When the city engineer would grant an exception to to the complete streets requirement under that section, is that determination made publicly available? So for example, through the project file or a public notice, or is it just an internal administrative decision?

Most likely be internal. Uh, I didn't, we hadn't thought about how it actually go generally. I mean, we're, I think we're, we're going to try to do it everywhere possible, but in developing our, our capital projects, it probably just be an internal administrative note that, uh, we're, we're, we did what we can, but we, we couldn't do the full complete street build out because of these reasons.

Okay. And the only reason I ask that is just because trying to give the most transparency to people as we're making those connections.

A great place to add that actually would be on the project page of the website.

That's a great suggestion. And I hope that we recorded that for the minutes.

Well, you could suggest that we add a line in the ordinance requiring that note to be developed. I would love to make that suggestion. We can make that edit. There are no objections.

I just have a couple more questions. Is this ordinance going to apply to private development projects that are currently in permitting process when it's adopted? This will be something... Excuse me. Sorry. That takes effect for current projects that are already in the pipeline or just new ones going forward.

This won't apply to development projects. Any development will abide by our already in the code, our typical cross sections for street and frontage improvements. This is mostly for our capital projects.

Okay. Excellent. That's all I have. Thank you.

Mayor Walters?

Ms. Hunt.

Can I just follow up on Mr. Fantini's suggestion? When we design something, the specs and the drawings have a bunch of notes on as well, right? There's a sheet with that. Wouldn't that also be a place to explicitly say what is and isn't being adopted from Complete Streets? So it's part of the permanent record, not just on the website? Right.

Yeah, again, this won't be part of development permits, if that's what you're referring to.

No, but when we go out to bid, the drawings that we put out to bid have a whole bunch of notes on those sheets. And the design that City Engineer comes up with, it seems like if we're not going to do full, complete street, that would be another place to document that we did look at it and this is why we're not doing it. There's not enough right-of-way or whatever.

Yes. Yeah, we could include it in some way in the project specifications. I'll brainstorm that one. Right.

I'm not asking you to say yes or no. I'm just suggesting so that it can be, as you say, transparent in a document. Because the website, as we all know, doesn't stay up forever.

That's all. Neither do the design documents.

They don't stay up, but they do exist. For public works projects, they have a pretty long retention policy. Since I have the mic, can I ask one other question? I liked Evergreen Island's suggestion of, I like shared use path better. Thank you, Mr. Lee. But that doesn't imply that we're going to, on our shared use paths, suddenly have to accommodate vehicles, right? I don't want that to have unintended consequences.

For the shared use path, that's just it's in the code. It's just a spot where we list multiple. I think it says like streets, sidewalks, multimodal paths and shared use path. So it's just it's just kind of a blanket statement of the examples of complete streets infrastructure.

Mayor Walters.

Ms. Malton.

Thank you. Thanks, Mr. Lee. So I'm looking at the definitions and do those come directly from the state's definitions?

I would have to get back to you on that. I'm not sure.

Okay. Because I would like them to be the same. I think that's really...

I'll double check that they match the state definition.

Okay. And so that leads me to public rights of way definition also. I would think we would need to be really strictly in line with how the state defines it, all these things, just to avoid any confusion or wiggling around or questions.

Yeah, we can ensure that those definitions match the state definition.

That would be great. Thank you.

Mr. Young? Well, Mr. Lee, thank you, as always. You know, I really appreciate the job that you guys do on our behalf for all of us. Sometimes it is challenging, I'm sure, as it is sometimes hopefully rewarding being both public servant um and i understand that one of the things that i know it's not part of this but i just for the record want to put it out there and in the minds of as we move this forward you know i'm very much i'm interested in making sure that as much as possible we are ada compliant i still have challenges with um you know issues that I've had post-collision. And we have a lot of wonderful people, you know, trying to just make sure those mobility things are in place. And, you know, as we design how we want our city to look and function, this is a big part of how we get there. One of the things that will be coming up and that we as not only a council, but as a city will be helping to define what we mean in a modally by way of transportation. You know, in some of the research that I'm doing before for the Economic Development Committee is really about trying to figure out how the transportation mode that we currently have and how do we enhance it from the standpoint of looking at you know smaller um many vehicles that could be of great use here in anacortes but it's also the mindset of of that green use of energy less cars on the street how do we tie it in to the beauty of what's happening without downtown the waterfront you know even at buxton's with the music that they just had a big thing there but how do we tie all that in without having to um park and then park again and then drive and then park. Those are systems that are really being considered. I think in speaking with Skagit Transit, just trying to understand how they make decisions about how their routes are and are they changeable and are they evolving to become what we may or may not need them to be for the future of Anacortes. whether that means a small minibus just sort of driving past the high school and looping around downtown, you know, it's endless possibilities. So it's really a wonderful thing. And so I think what was a little surprising for me was in my conversation, it was said that of all of the cities and towns that are using their system, Anacortes was the least used with the big green buses. And as it is such an important, I like to say, trailblazer, we have an opportunity to use a more deliberate system And part of what they were hoping is that, you know, at one point there would also be an app that they're developing that you could sort of just say, I need to go from here to here. And then it swings around a small bus, picks you up almost like an Uber of sorts. But, you know, As we look to where we want to go, where we want to be, going by what parks, what things that we want to have those transportation rideaways coming, this is a wonderful thing. And I think this is the beginning of a great conversation. as we look at how we want to efficiently move our city such that we have less cars, less parking, but yet a greater transportation system that serves all of the people of needs, regardless of where you are on the spectrum of health. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Young.

Thank you. So reading this ordinance, it's helpful. Can you, and I appreciate the things that other council members have said about trying to document where and when we use complete streets, but Is this going to assist us when we are looking at the entire city and where we want to identify locations and connections for those complete streets? Will this assist with our kind of master plan? I think that's something we've talked about. There's certain neighborhoods like Cap Sani. It doesn't make sense to have... um sidewalks there because that's just not the the the nature of that neighborhood but there's other areas that are in dire need of sidewalks and multimodal um connections so how does this kind of help us get to that master plan to connect our neighborhoods throughout our community

Yeah, sure. So this policy will definitely kind of is it guides public works as we develop our projects and develop the CFP to kind of look at those features as where they're needed most and where we can further enhance those kind of underserved areas for non-vehicle transportation. So when we're analyzing various projects and prioritizing for various years, I think it'll This policy helps guide us in that direction of providing sidewalk, providing public transit, ADA features for areas that are heavily underserved currently. Because everywhere in the nation has been historically underserved for non-vehicle, non-personal vehicle transportation methods.

Mayor Walters, unless anyone else wanted to get in first. I just have one quick clarifier.

I didn't call on you yet, Mr. Pantini. Did any other council member want to speak on this before we return to council members who have already spoken? No? Okay. Mr. Fantini.

Yes. Okay. I just wanted to clarify. So when I was reading this, I think I kind of got it wrong a little bit now as I'm putting it in my head. So this really is only for projects we do. This will have absolutely no effect on private development whatsoever. Is that how I'm reading this?

Correct.

okay and then one other thing to miss hunt's point about capturing the uh the data somewhere why i also think that would be good is because if we do see that we're making the same exception over and over and over again maybe it's time that council needs to to miss cleo my ass point look at policy or look at other areas to fix that so

I also just want to say thank you for keeping us competitive for funding. Thank you very much from the Finance Committee.

Council, anything else? Okay, so we do have the exception section 1260.050 that I think gets to Mr. Fantini's point. We'll add something there for documentation of when those exceptions are noted, clean up some of these other edits, accept the comments from Evergreen Islands, unless there's any objection there. No? All right. And we'll bring this back to you next week. Okay. All right. Thank you. That is our last item of business. I'm going to go ahead and adjourn the meeting. Thank you very much.