Board of Education - Regular Meeting

Este es nuestro equipo. Me presentaré yo mismo. Soy Gaj Velko. Soy un especialista en participación comunitaria relativamente nuevo para la ciudad de Ann Arbor. Y dejaré que Tracy continúe.

Soy Tracy Anderson. Soy la gerente de proyectos para este proyecto. Estuve aquí en mayo del año pasado también para la primera reunión.

Chris Carson. Soy diseñador de proyectos en la ciudad.

Soy Tasha Humphrey, ingeniera de servicios públicos de la ciudad.

Great. We also have some residents and staff from the housing commission. Would you like to introduce yourself?

Hello, Norm. I'm Francis. Can you hear me?

Let me see if I can.

Well, that's all.

I just want to say that Norm is like our senior senator. He's lived here since 82 or 84, I think. Great. Let me see. There are still questions and answers. Norm, you can take the silence to speak. So feel free to do it at any time. Try to be attentive to this presentation or this Zoom call for you. Okay. Very good. Let's continue. Norm, if you could introduce yourself, it would be great.

Great.

If it's not totally fine. Seguiremos adelante. Esta es nuestra agenda. Repasaré algo de vocabulario muy rápido. Daré una breve descripción del proyecto. Tenemos algunos diseños preliminares y un presupuesto para revisar con ustedes. Luego discutiremos los siguientes pasos y abriremos el foro a debate.

Una lección de vocabulario muy rápida.

El derecho de paso o derecho de paso vial es propiedad que pertenece a la ciudad e incluye la carretera y la franja de propiedad detrás de ella. In this case, Parkview Place is a private road, so the city does not own it and that is why we will need services, which is our next word. Permanent services are a legal agreement that grants the city the right to access property for the installation, maintenance and repair of public services. We often have temporary leveling services that allow us to access their property and make changes while we carry out the project. We will talk about main water pipes and water service facilities. The main pipe is the conduct owned by the city in the right of passage or in a service and serves multiple clients. The service facility is the smallest pipe that goes from the main to its property.

Are you using the main pipe and the program?

Yes. Yes.

It's not the intention, but that's how it is.

It's not the intention, but yes.

Listen to this.

Yes. Yes. Yes, main and main and committed. We also have someone who joins in person, so we are going to review the presentations one more time. We have here, apart from the person of the project, as I am a specialist in community participation, we will have engineers, we will have some residents and people from the housing commission as well.

So, would you like to introduce yourself? I'm Jeremy. I have been in the Parkview Place board since 2011.

Muchas gracias por acompañarnos. Gracias por acompañarnos. Recién estamos comenzando aquí repasando algo de vocabulario. Hablaremos sobre las tuberías principales de agua y las acometidas de servicio que llevarán el agua desde la principal hasta su casa. Lo mismo ocurre con el alcantarillado sanitario. La principal es propiedad de la ciudad y se encuentra dentro del derecho de paso o en una servidumbre que sirve a múltiples clientes. Y luego la comitía de servicio va desde la principal hasta la casa.

A esa se le llama lateral.

Y ahora voy a cederle la palabra a Tracy, la directora del proyecto. Ella hará una breve descripción general del proyecto.

Bien, nos reunimos el año pasado. Hace más o menos un año y medio. El proyecto sigue siendo el mismo. La ciudad se compromete a instalar una nueva tubería principal de agua y alcantarillado sanitario para dar servicio adecuado a todas estas parcelas 2, 4, 6, 3 y 5 que actualmente están en esta tubería privada tanto de alcantarillado como de agua. Estamos planeando hacerlo. as standard as we can. There is no street by which to pass, which is the standard way to do it. That is to say, that you are connected in front of your house on the street. A reason why we need to do more. This will also improve the capacity of the hydrants against fires. What will also improve is the quality of the water and for things that we adjust to help maintain the main one and help with the quality of the water and things like that. So we need permanent services and then we will also talk about our temporary services so that everyone can enter. We have strict orders from lawyers. We still can't talk about the price of the services, but they are still working on it. They are still doing their things as lawyers. But we have committed to do it in a fairly tight schedule. They are very happy with that, but they have to do it for us, so... And the budget falls out and we... Yes, it will fall out of that. There is a schedule here later, but yes, all this will go through construction next year.

So yes, we also need the services and so on. So, yes, thank you, Tiffany.

That was a great transition. This is the chronogram. We already did part of the topography, the data collection, we obtained it last year. Now we are going to review the preliminary design today. We are going to continue with the design. We need a little more topographic lifting because we will explain more. Now we need to take a different route, so we will bring more topographers here. And the rest is also in another slide.

Very good. Now this will be essential for everyone. We are going to review the preliminary design and the budget. I think it would be good if Tracy, you just want to present it quickly, and then Chris, Tisha, if they can intervene, it would be great. It's a... Sure, I can ask a quick question about the reach related to the website. The restoration of the pavement and any being affected by the construction is inside or outside the reach.

Sí, todo lo restauraremos a como se ve hoy. Pueden comprobar ahora y recordar dónde lugar. Si es pavimentado, ya saben, asfalto con asfalto, concreto con concreto. No vamos a pavimentar algo que es de grava.

Si es una acera como esta, será una acera terminal.

Sí, quiero decir sí. Vamos a hacer nuestro mejor esfuerzo. Pero si es una acera agrietada y tenemos que quitarla, no será una acera agrietada. ¿De acuerdo? Va a ser algo nuevo, sí.

Muy bien.

Bien, entonces es una opción. This is just how the service would look. So, in any option, we have to go up all over Parkview Place. And this is an option to make a loop. A loop, I'm getting away.

I'm sorry.

To connect the main water network. We can go through Lowry Terraces. The parking lot. Let's go to the next one. This is the aerial view. This way you can see it better. Así que consideramos pasar por este callejón para conectar con Chapín. Y cuanto más lo analizamos, más vimos que no es construible. Hay muchos árboles aquí. Son límites muy estrechos, como saben. Y mantener e instalar una tubería nueva aquí con los servicios existentes simplemente no es realmente posible. Realmente no pensamos que podríamos meter todo ahí al mismo tiempo. So we still need the circuit so that the water can go up and connect. Because if you only have a dead end, the quality of the water is bad, especially when you are on a hill like this. So this is an option for the circuit. We go through the parking lot of Laurel Terraces to connect down through here for access to the tennis courts. That's an option. This is also only for the main building. And this is the other option still. This is still the same through Parkview Road.

Bro, I have a question. Why did that happen behind the... Like here.

That's what we originally said, but I don't know.

I'm seeing it. I mean, it could be possible. But we would like to maximize this so that it is maintainable. And cheaper.

Yes, because we don't like the permanent structures in the reservoirs.

And our reservoir point is standard for main water pipes.

A good sign.

So this is another option.

Do you mind if I ask? Is the technology in consideration directional perforation or is it excavation, installation and filling?

For now it's all open-air because it's the cheapest. But now, if we take this route, we would have to redo these tennis courts, which are very well used and in good condition, and that we are considering drilling below that. Floodplains will help us with that, because now we have to worry about groundwater, contamination and things like that. We still need a large pit on each side to dig, because we have to get to the depth where the main water pipe is, to be able to drill in a straight line that you still have a lot of work on both sides. So access is also a factor to consider, because if we end up in a big well here, they won't be able to get to their homes. You know, there are a lot of pieces that are moving, that's why it's still in the preliminary stage of design. But today what we really want to know from all of you is if you know where your connections come from, speaking of retirement and new staff, The topographer who did this, Jan, doesn't work there either. So, we are in the process of obtaining all the information for which we paid and that was in the original reach. Because I know that they entered your house since I found your email that said, hey, I gave you all the information. Where is this? We are still like this.

So we know more about everything.

Yes, they didn't give us that. It seems that was what...

I know, I know that... Tenemos las elevaciones topográficas en indicaciones específicas. Pero si toman una medida desde su... Hicieron de las alféizales de las mentales.

Y tienen esta información en algún lado. Y bueno, solo tienen que encontrarla.

Tenemos que esperar la imagen.

Sí, quizás ya nos la dieron, pero solo está en este. Solo tenemos que tener... Cuatro.

Cuatro y seis está entre las casas.

Así que podemos... Así que tenemos... Estos son todos por lote. Así que tenemos que...

en el mapa. Hay una de agua. Sí, pero ahí está Santa Fe. Lo mismo ocurre aquí en una zona común. Así que esta es la de agua.

Más adelante vamos a desglosar toda esa información porque queremos saber Donde quieren sus dos, porque como parte del proyecto, proporcionaremos al menos una conexión, nos reunimos con las autoridades de la ciudad. Vamos a hacer que todos se conecten a la red principal de agua como parte de este proyecto. No tendrán que conectarse al tanque. Por alguna razón dicen, no, no quieren. Tienen que hacerlo, pero cuando sus conexiones fallen o cuando su conexión eventualmente falle, no duran para siempre. So they will have to connect on their own. So if you want, we will try to connect where the pipe enters now. That will be good for everyone. But if you want to redo your interior plumbing and go out in the middle of your lot to save a tree or the entrance path, we can put a 7-inch pipe. That's what I prefer. That's what I'm going to sing.

So this is...

I'm going to go that way now.

You can probably share something with the Disfacer, but the Sanja.

He's going this way.

True. He's going. He's going that way.

So now, but this is very, very easy. So we'll have to, yes, consider the gravity and all that, but then we'll talk about the restoration. That's what I'll do with your ticket.

It's also on record, so it's easy to see. I'm happy to provide any service that seems appropriate. Okay, great.

So yes, we will need a permanent servitude on the main pipe.

Because I prefer to have this available for me, I can drive here. But if I want to expand my property at some point, perhaps an accessory housing unit or whatever it ends up being. It all depends on it, right?

Correct. So the stipulations are, we need a permanent servitude for the main pipe. Tu acometida es privada. Estamos trabajando en instalar la acometida con el proyecto mediante una servidumbre temporal. Pero ahí lo tienes. Así que solo una servidumbre temporal. Es frustrante que tengas que tener la acometida en tu lote. Así que si compartieras una zanja con el 6, solo tendrías que continuar. Ya sabes, tenemos que averiguar dónde está la línea.

¿Dónde está?

También vamos a tener... Algunos mapas la muestran aquí, otros mapas la muestran aquí. ¿La línea de propiedad? ¿Sí, Jensu?

Nosotros también lo vimos.

Pues podemos hacer una pregunta más sobre el alcance general antes de entrar en estos dos conceptos. ¿Está incluido un levantamiento de límites en el alcance?

Sí. Eso es otra cosa que los topógrafos se supone que deben hacer. Lo siento. ¿Y aún no lo hemos recibido? Para tus lotes de Speedway encontraron cuatro barras de hierro.

Esas fueron colocadas por Lawson en 2014.

Está bien. So, but then, the high-rise found more bars.

They found more. They found more around the bank key property that he placed in Blossom, in the center. In the center. So, there is monumentation. Around, around. We only have seven. They were displaced. That is their cut, because the base point is in the intersection from here, where they did it. I think that was displaced at some point when they moved the rail. Bueno, hay un par de cosas históricas que nosotros... Si usted quiere, cuando llegue el momento, hablar de un levantamiento de límites.

Bueno, lo tenemos, pero vamos a obtener un levantamiento de límites. Mucho de lo cual compartiremos con ustedes y luego eso será parte del... ¿Planean registrar ese levantamiento de límites con el... No sé sobre el levantamiento, pero las servidumbres están bien. Which I think is all listed there, and then, like this little section of this whole lot, is the servitude. It's the servitude.

Do you expect us, as owners, to raise limits?

Um, we can get you copies. I don't know if they are sealed or how they are.

I would just say that if they are going to be made, it would be good for an agrimensor with a license to put their professionalism.

Yes, they will be sealed. They often come here with their seal. Many of them will see what we have. And we need a copy when it is... Yes, I think so.

Yes, I think we will have it when we have it archived with the lagrimensor. Yes, I have it. Clearly we get a copy when we get it.

I know, and we mention it because we are getting a raise for each lot we choose for that, for that.

So you have, I think I told you that you have the lifting of voice limits of 2014 in your power. Well, I gave you a certified copy of that, so that's... I can give you another copy if you like, but that's... That was in the pile of papers or in the e-mail. Probably, I don't remember well in that case. But if that saves, I mean, if you are comfortable with those results, whether they are existing or measured, then that could save. Perfect.

I have a slide.

My work is about my previous position.

Y ahora mi trabajo es supervisar o ayudar a supervisar las partes de servicios públicos del plan de mejora de capital para la ciudad de Anan. Y creo que es muy importante que ustedes tengan presupuesto en el plan de capital y tenemos un presupuesto de 1.4 millones de dólares entre el año fiscal 27 y el 29. Actualmente acabamos de comenzar el año fiscal 27. Comenzó el primero de julio de este año. Y así que tenemos en nuestro plan $900,000 para agua y $500,000 para alcantarillado sanitario para realizar el alcance de trabajo que Tracy estaba revisando en las diapositivas anteriores. Y como saben, solo hay alrededor de 7 parcelas. Creo que eso es todo. I'm not sure exactly if there are six or seven, but the extension, typically the city, charges $18,000 for water and $19,000 for sewerage to extend the service to its property. That is shown as the maximum amount that each owner would pay the city for the project. That is where I think it is also very important, because obviously the money that is potentially could get is much less than the total project. And it is very important to bring water to your house. Expensive. More than a million dollars. I think it pleases me to see that the city has a section. Now, as Tom Tracy mentioned, we are currently not allowed to spend, I'm going to blame

to the lawyers, I suppose.

The lawyers said that we can talk very little about the exchange process, I mean, about money and others, but we are definitely in the process of requesting title works and there will be more information on how part of this could be compensated, but we absolutely need these services for this project. But in general, I think that in order to keep moving forward, we need the services. I guess that's the other point of my discussion, is that since we're trying to do it next summer, not getting the services will also stop the project. And so that's where I think the urgency comes into play now.

You said that the lawyers said we shouldn't talk. Well, you said that the lawyers said we shouldn't talk about the economy of services. Are you explaining in a more general way? While I'm not talking about costs at all.

Well.

What is it? It's the cost of service.

So yes, this slide is just to show that the city is spending $1.4 million instead of dividing that between all of you. The maximum you would pay to connect to the main pipes would be those $38,000. We still don't know the final figure. It depends on whether they are going to do the internal plumbing, the meter, whatever. But in any case, for the main pipe to be installed, you are not going to pay anything and you are going to get the new pavement on the street and all that.

So the recovery of the cost of the $38,000 per plot has not yet been defined. If that will come from our earnings or other income, we could potentially sell our services for $38,000. Well, that's what we can't say. Great for construction workers.

Yes, we have permission again. So, but I mean, it's a good deal. Yes, but I know that 40,000 is still a lot of money.

Yes, we are not trying to say that, and of course, there may be additional internal costs. It is important to know that that would be beyond that. We are taking it, as Tracy explained, up to about five feet away from the house. And we are going to restore it to that point, so there is an additional cost for you, no matter what, to get to those five.

¿Qué es eso de cinco pies fuera de la casa?

Es lo más lejos que vamos con las conexiones laterales y los ramos. Sí, sí.

Si en su caso, básicamente, lo siento, salir de la carretera es más difícil con dos, cuatro, seis. Que vienen de la tubería principal.

Eso es lo más lejos que podemos llegar.

No tenemos que ir hasta el final.

Así que próximos pasos. Todavía estamos en el proceso de hacer perforaciones de suelo. This is one of the ground perforations that is taking place, and that is a... So you will see a perforation platform down here, taking a small hole of 4 or 6 inches on the road. They are going to repair it. Do you have a map of the ground locations?

We don't have it with us.

Is it possible to compare?

Yes. I see three, and then there is one up here. Could you point them out on a map?

And then yes, we are still going to do that other topography. Let's go.

Basically, what were they in Kinesos? One has a higher point.

There, because we were not sure.

Up here in the tower it is still good to be aware of what is happening.

It is a glacial moraine, and probably there is something ancient somewhere there.

Cada acabación que he visto, y las he visto hasta 11 pies bajo el nivel del suelo, es arena, suelo homogéneo, consistente.

Entonces, continuando ahí, trabajaremos en el diseño final una vez que tengamos toda la información y luego los Springs se comunicarán con ustedes sobre la servidumbre. Algo bueno que mencioné es que si alguien, una persona no quiere participar en el proyecto. Entonces, otro beneficio de ir al oeste en lugar de ir por el callejón es que ahora tenemos que obtener menos servidumbres y de personas que ni siquiera se benefician de esa servidumbre. Así que, pum, esperemos que todo salga bien. Y luego podremos estar en construcción el próximo año.

Vamos a solicitar el proyecto en el invierno y a principios del próximo año.

And then we imagine taking it to the first and then install the system this morning.

Do you have a schedule? Is there any kind of planned period for the solar panel?

As they are starting, they are working on the permits, so they will start soon.