Planning and Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

Thursday, April 16, 2026
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Government Body
Planning and Zoning Board
Meeting Type
Planning And Zoning Board
Location
Pembroke Pines, FL
Meeting Date
April 16, 2026

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477 sections (from 543 segments)

7:550

And we'll now have the call to order for the board of adjustments for the city of Pembroke Pines. Have roll call by Madam Clerk.

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Member Aberdeen? Present. Member Brito?

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Member Pitts?

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Member Almira? Member Turner?

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Chairman Kroll?

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You have a quorum? Here, yeah. Are

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you waiting in the parking lot or something? Okay, thank you. We do have a quorum. And we'll entertain a motion for excused absence General the close to the

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Counsel will now give instructions to the president for tonight. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the public, the members of this Board of Adjustment are volunteers. They are true public servants here to serve the citizens and the residents of the city of Pembroke Pines. They're here to decide applications presented to them tonight. There are three applications or three cases with multiple variances on the agenda tonight. The decisions from this board for approval require a minimum of three votes. Short of that three votes, the item will be deemed denied. These hearings are quasi judicial.

9:12 – 9:562

That means that all the witnesses who plan on coming up to the podium and speaking will need to stand and be sworn in before you are able to speak. The city will present the case, and the board will go through the application, and then you'll have every opportunity to present whatever information or testimony you have to support you being granted a variance. At the conclusion of the testimony, the chairman will open it up to the public for public discussion and he will close hearing and the board will make a decision tonight on your application. With that being said, if you plan on coming and speaking tonight, please stand and rise so you can be sworn in. Please all stand up.

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You can all stand up if you plan on speaking. If you're just here to support, you can remain seated. Sir? Sir, do you plan on speaking

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today? Yes.

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Talking to the gentleman behind you who just walked in.

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Alright. Here you go.

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Alright. You raise your right hand. Swear affirm the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Alright. If you haven't been sworn in, you can't speak. So but you'll be able to speak. You just have to get sworn in individually if you didn't do so already. Alright, mister chairman.

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Thank you, General Counsel. Evelyn and Earl Brinkley, please come forward. Good evening. And you can turn the mic on. There's a button at it.

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There you go. Evelyn Franklin, owner, submitted two residential zoning veris' request to legalize an existing roof structure for the property located 21591 South Heritage Circle in the Holly Lake neighborhood, which is zoned residential mobile home, RMH. On 09/17/2024, the city code compliance division cited the property for a work performed without building permit. Code case 240902754. On 04/08/2025, the owner submitted a permit application, RR25Dash03393, to perform desolation of stucco finish over the existing mobile home envelope facade.

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However, the permit application cannot be approved as existing conditions of the property does not meet the requirements of the city land development. As a result of existing work, the petition would like to start the legalization process for the retention of existing 23.61 foot by 12.52 foot roof structure located at the rear of the mobile home. She's submitting ZBR twenty twenty five dash zero zero four four to allow a 3.85 foot augmenting to four point o six foot setback along a segment of the rear property line instead of the required eight foot rear setback for the existing structure. Also, ZVR twenty twenty five dash zero zero four five to allow zero foot setback along the segment of the rear property lines to the required five foot rear setback for the existing property. At the reviewing the petition's initial request, according to survey, the portion of building the rear approach is the rear setback.

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There are no records of an existing permit for this property. The petition whether the board's consideration was of rep reference references request does not preclude the property owner from obtaining all necessary development related approval permits. The property is located in Holly Lake neighborhood, and there is no homeowners association for this property. On page four six, the owner submitted a request based on the fact that it's constructed for ongoing rehabilitation and emotional recovery servicing as a safe, accessible, and therapeutic area, for her well-being. There's more here.

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She has lived there for over twenty five years, and she has experienced many health issues that she uses as therapy and relaxation. I won't read articles here to rec but staff has this, and you can look you can see it for your own for your own decision making. We also have maps of the mobile home with the enclosed chairs in the back. I cannot paraphrase all that you submitted, but is there anything else you'd like to add on your behalf for this case?

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Good evening.

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Good evening.

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Mr. Chairman and members of the board. As you know, I want to thank you, first of all, for allowing me to give you my even though I've already presented all the information, just to let you know that I'm here tonight even though to ask for the approval and the variance and let you know that, of course, this was essential to my health and my well-being. And I have been here for over twenty five years and make sure that my property and that I'm able to comply with anything and everything that the city has always set forth for me to come through. Due to things that I have suffered between a stroke in the last eight years just before this situation happened, I had a ruptured brain aneurysm and a stroke, which I ended up basically a year and seven months in the hospital.

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And I underwent an emergency craniotomy where my doctors basically told me I had just about mere loss of life within a few seconds. So I entered a long period of disability and rehabilitation. And during that time, at the same time, my family and I, we faced a devastating loss, which was the loss of both my sons at the age of 19 and 20 within a short period of time. And as my son passed away, which was a same condition that I went through, which was a ruptured brain aneurysm, at that time I wasn't educated about anything like that. So as I struggled with both neurological recovery and deep grief, this patio structure became for me like a sacred space that they built for me.

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And it offered the therapeutic outdoor environment for my physical therapy, emotional renewal, and just to stay grounded and hopeful. And being a Christian, it was my peaceful where I kind of had my faith always grounded on that with bible studies. I am asking for the barriers because the patios location was dictated by the continued unique constraint of the land itself, as it's shown on the certified survey. And the seawall behind my mobile home and the lake at the rear, which very strictly limits the buildable area where the patio was built at the time. The curve of the heritage circle itself creates that irregular lot shape with the natural infrastructures and the constraints.

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And it was the only viable location to create that space for myself. We've always been a responsible owner, and we deeply care over my neighborhood and my property. The homeowner at the time had reviewed everything, they provided full approval. It does not interfere with any type of drainage or for any of my neighbors requiring its removal because of my retirement and disability right now would require such an emotional burden for me at the moment. But because the space was born out of necessity for basically survival for me to become a place of peace and healing where I can sit in the back and just kind of

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You understand?

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All early, just get grounded. I've E. JULIET E. JULIET part E. At that moment.

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I guess I was under the impression after, as time went by, that what they call the after fact permit would be able to do. So then, of course, we did the permit for the stucco. And then from there on, it went. And just taking time trying to do all the different steps, I was not aware of everything that is going on legally. But of course, I am asking for this variance because of the constraint of the lot in the back.

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It is still within the property line. Was just, I guess, had no idea within how much setback it had to be done. But I'm here to rectify and if I continue with anything else that I have to do. Because like I said, I am a member of the city of Pembroke Pines, and I want to follow-up and make sure that I am compliant in anything that I could be.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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My concern, and thank you for it, I didn't want to read the entire family history in the public, but you did so. Your neighbors have no problem with the structure. Concerned about because we're in a hurricane zone, mobile home, make sure that you comply with all the requirements from building and zoning because this is a mobile home, and in a hurricane, it's susceptible to very high winds, and you could lose the structure you have. So be prepared. It may take some time to rectify and correct what they recommend.

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Exactly.

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But please do so. And because you're backed up to a lake and you got a seawall there, you don't have anyone to rear to offer objections.

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Exactly.

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I don't have any further questions, Mr. Co chair. No further questions. Mr. Pitts? No questions, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Abbott Dandello? No, sir. Mr. Turner? No questions. Anyone from the audience, any questions regarding this variance? With that, I'll entertain a motion.

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Sir, I'd like to make a motion for approval of ZBR 2,000,000 25044 regarding the eight rear setback to be approved under 155.301.01c.

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I second. It's been motioned seconded for the approval of CVR 20204. Madam clerk, roll call, please.

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Yes. Member Evans?

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Member Rita? Yes. Member Pitts? Yes. Member Turner? Yes. Chairman Kroll? Yes. Motion passes.

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ZVR 20 25, deck zero zero four five.

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Audience? Sir,

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I make a motion for approval under ZVR 2025Dash0045 to be approved regarding the five foot rear setback under 155.3011 c.

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I second. Roll call, Madam Clerk.

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Member Avondadolo? Yes. Vice Chair Burrito? Yes. Member Pitts? Yes. Member Turner?

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Member by Chair McCraw? Yes. Motion passes.

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ZVR20206.

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Sir, again, I make the motion for approval for ZVR2025Dash0046 under 15.301.1c. I second.

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Roll call Madam Clerk.

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Member Abbedaggelo? Yes. Vice Chair Brita?

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Member Pitts? Yes. Member Turner? Yes. Chairman Kroll? Yes. Motion passes.

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Ms. Franklin, you have all your your variance has been approved. Please see the clerk for any further actions. And as we said before, it's a mobile home. We're in the beginning of a hurricane season. Let's make sure that everything is tied down. It may take a little time, but we want to make sure it stays intact.

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Yes. You. Thank you so much. And just to let you know that I have taken those steps on tie down and everything else, that's been like, of course, just I'm always prepared on top before things like that happen. But I want to thank you so much for your time and for giving me this request.

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I appreciate it. Thank you. Let's remember, everything in the city has to have permits.

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The wind blows the wind from.

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Thank you so much.

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I kind of jumped the gun. We need to have approval of the minutes from our March 5 board meeting.

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Mr. Chair, I

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move a motion to approve

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the minutes from the 03/05/2026 meeting minutes.

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Second. I second. Okay. We can

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do this consent. All in favor to approve the March, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Minute stands approved. Thank you, Mr. Pitts. Lashunda Jones. Good evening. Good evening. You can sign in, please.

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Good evening, chair, board members.

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Are you representing Ms. Jones? Yes, I'm Danny Jones. I'm the husband. Is she here?

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She was here earlier.

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Okay. Thank you. Thank

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you for the opportunity to speak with you all this evening. I appreciate your time and consideration for my request. I am here to request approval of a variance for an existing attached structure on my property, which is currently located approximately five feet from the property line. The structure is used for a private office and storage space and is an accessory to the primary residence. I want to acknowledge upfront that the structure was built without full permitting process, and I take full responsibility for that.

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And I'm here in good faith to resolve this in full compliance with the city's requirements. Due to the configuration of the lot, the placement of the existing home, the site was related constraints and such space limitations and layout, the setback requirement would create a difficulty in putting the structure on the property. The structure is permanent, it's structurally sound, and does not negatively impact any of the neighbors. It does not affect any of the properties surrounding the area. It does not create any drainage issues or any safety concerns and does not interfere with access to any adjacent property.

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There's no commercial activity surrounding our area and no traffic, and it's not disturbing any property next to it. It's strictly a private office and a storage space. No business or personal business is being run out of there. I don't have any extra people coming to visit or staying there. It's not an extra room for anybody to stay in or anything like that.

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And none of the neighbors in the area have brought anything to my attention concerning their concerns about the structure. And it does not pose or present any issues or concerns with anyone in the neighborhood that I have known or anyone has brought to my attention. So what I am requesting is that only the minimum relief necessary to allow the structure to remain as it is and currently exists. I'm not requesting to expand it or to make it any larger or any bigger. I'm fully committed to complying with all the building and safety and zoning requirements moving forward and completing any requirement steps that's required by the city going through the permit process to get everything fully done correctly.

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So I respectfully ask the board to consider the lack of impact and the support or not support of any neighbors or any complaints from any of the neighbors and approve the variance. Approval would allow me to bring everything into compliance without unnecessary demolition or tearing the structure down or causing any undue stress in the neighborhood. Thank you again for your time and consideration.

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Mr. Jones, let me thank you for your review. Let me start with, Lashonda Jones. And your first name is?

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Denny Jones.

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Denny Jones. D e n n y. Residing at 8820 Northwest 5th Street, Pembroke Pines, 33024. You submitted two residential zoning references request to legalize an existing addition for the single family resident located at that area in the Westview neighborhood, which is zoned residential single family. 08/01/2025, the city code compliance division cited the property for work done without a permit.

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Code case number 250802410. And you have stated that you want to legalize it and comply with all building regulations for this personal office and storage space only. ZBR twenty twenty six dash three to allow a 4.3 foot setback along the segment of the eastern side of the property line instead of requiring 7.5 side setback for existing 24.6 foot by 8.6 office and storage area. Also, ZVR twenty twenty six dash zero zero zero four to allow two foot three, often into two foot six setback along the segment of the eastern side property is the required five foot side setback for an existing 34 feet six inches by 10 foot by six inches patio and walkway. There's no HOA in the area?

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No, sir. And from what you told me and what I've added here, no commercial use, only for storage.

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Only for

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storage. And you will comply with all requirements for building and zoning since this is an after effect situation. Absolutely. Mr. Burrito? No further questions. Mr. Pitts? No questions, Mr. Chair. Mr. Appin and Don Dahl? No, sir. Mr. Turner? No questions. Any questions from anyone from the audience? I'll entertain a motion for ZVR 2020.

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Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve ZVR 20 260003 to allow a 4.3 setback along a segment of the eastern side of the property line instead of a 7.5 setback for an existing office storage addition.

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I second. The motion is second for CVR twenty twenty six dash zero zero zero three. Roll call, madam clerk.

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Member Pitts?

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Chairman vice chairman Breedham? Yes. Member Abindondalud? Yes. Member Turner? Yes. Chairman Grall? Yes. Motion passes.

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Motion is ZVR2026Dash0004.

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Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve ZBR twenty twenty six dash four to allow a two to three augmenting setback along the settlement of the eastern side property line instead of the five foot side setback for an existing patio and walkway.

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I second. The motion is second. Madam Clerk, roll call.

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Member Pitts?

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Vice Chair Brito?

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Member Andodonkala? Yes. Member Turner?

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Chairman Kroll? Yes. Motion passes.

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Mr. Jones, both appearances have been approved. Please see the clerk for any further instructions, and please comply with all building regulations for after the fact construction. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Marco and Devellium Ruiz?

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Good evening.

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Mister Marco and Devon Ruiz resides at 11911 Northwest 22nd Street, Pembroke Pines, Florida 33026. The owner submitted four residential zoning references request to legalize existing conditions.

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I'm sorry. Excuse me. I believe there's eight. There might be some on the back.

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I'm gonna collect the report here. Eight.

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Yeah. I think it's because there's multiple variances for the same thing just in different areas. So it's like the eastern

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side Just keep reading the report, will notice why there's eight initially four. I should have counted.

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Submitted eight residential zoning reference requests to legalize existing construction at the property located at 11911 Northwest 22nd Street, in the single family residential zone District R 1 C. On 11/02/2023 and 09/18/2025, the city code compliance division cited the property for work performed without building permits. Case is number 231104172 and 250903042. On October 2024, the applicant submitted billing permit application number RX24Dash12443RO24Dash12616 to construct a circular drive and to install a 21.2 foot by 21 foot metal frame awning attached to the front facade of the house for a carport. However, the building permit application cannot be approved the work on the property exceeds the provisions of the city land development code, LGC.

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And you're requesting ZBR2026005 to allow four foot front setback as required for '25 foot setback for the awning carport. ZBR twenty twenty six-six to allow 75% front lot coverage instead of required 40% front lot coverage for existing circular driveway in the family residence. ZVR two zero two six Dash zero zero zero seven to allow 49% width of a lot instead of required 40% width of a lot for an existing circular drive in the residential property. ZBR twenty twenty six dash eight to allow 4.4 foot setback along the segment of the eastern side of property lines to require five foot for the Circle Driveway. After reviewing the application's initial request and for the update survey, it was further modification of property, walkway, patio along east side and west sides of the home and existing 39.1 by 17.2 foot open sided roof structure attached to the rear wall of the home.

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This also was non permitted work. So the owner requested ZVR 2026Dash0009 to allow 1.25 foot augmented to 1.4 foot setback along the segment of the eastern side property is required five foot setback for an existing 68 by 4.9 walkway patio. Also, ZBR two zero two six Dash zero zero one zero to allow 4.6 setback along the segment of western side property lines that required five foot for the existing pool deck. ZBR twenty twenty six dash zero zero one one to allow 1.1 setback along the segment of the Western Side property with so it required five foot for existing 55 foot by 6.59 wall pit patio. ZVR twenty twenty six dash zero zero one two to allow two trees instead of required five trees in a single family resident property, larger than 8,000 square foot area typical lot.

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Per staff review of city archives, no permanent information can be found for detached work on the property. However, staff search, and included copies of historical surveys for permits application for construction projects, fence, swimming pool, deck, screen enclosure, and a copy of the tree removal permit issued by the city in 2003. Per Dade County imagery, the open side roof structure and the rear deck enlargement and walkways had existed at a location at least since December 2018. How long were you a resident there in D. C?

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Yes, sir. Okay. And 2019, respectively. Okay. You've attached medical records for a county member stating that the enclosure required for health issues

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Yes, sir.

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To tolerate heat and sun exposure. And you also work from home in this area.

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I'm sorry?

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And since she works from home Yes,

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she does.

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For health to not be exposed to extreme heat. Yes, sir. And you've also attached medical records, which I will not read into the record here, but several medical records for your wife and her medical conditions. Thank you. Is there anything else you'd like to

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add to the synopsis? I've prepared a whole statement because public speaking just isn't my forte, so an effort not to ramble on. Maybe I'll read some of it. Please. First of all, thank you for the opportunity to speak, and thank you for your time. I wasn't aware you guys were voluntary unpaid. That's very brave of me. I'm here to respectfully request approval of this variance related to the modifications made to my home as reasonable accommodations. These modifications were not taken lightly. They were necessary due to a medical condition.

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What I can say is that these modifications were made in good faith to support my wife's health and quality of daily living along with her elderly uncle, which we care for daily during the week. Every modification was done thoughtfully, carefully, and professionally. I used high grade materials, and I made sure that they met safety and longevity standards. This is not a situation where corners were cut. They were done correctly and professionally while also being mindful of my responsibilities to my neighbors and as a homeowner in the community.

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More importantly, these upgrades do not create any negative impact on my neighbors or the surrounding area. In fact, I'm fortunate to have the support of my neighbors, some of whom are here today under no pressure for me to attend, by the way. I lost my place. In fact, I'm fortunate to have the support of my neighbors, some of who are here today, and others who could not make it but instead assisted in providing letters of support,

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which I

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have in my possession. I'm happy to share with you guys. I'm very appreciative of them for that. The neighbors who's here today, along with the ones who have written letters to the board, are immediate neighbors, which either live in direct line of sight or walk past my home on nearly a daily basis. This small fact is important as they are the only ones affected by these modifications as we live at the end of a quiet peaceful street with no other traffic than ourselves.

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I believe that while these modifications were not made for the aesthetic value, it turns out that was a welcome byproduct, hence the neighbor you support. Additionally, all the work has been completed to code using high quality materials with careful attention to safety and durability. These improvements not only meet required standards, but they also enhance the overall appearance of the property and contribute positively to the character of the neighborhood. This request is consistent with the principle of the, city planning and zoning department in that it does not harm the public interest as supports the health and safety and welfare of my wife and her elderly uncle as well as beautifying the neighborhood. I respectfully ask, the board to consider the unique circumstances involved and to grant this variance as a reasonable and fair outcome.

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We're prepared to legalize everything we've already submitted for permitting some time ago for all the items. While it seems like a lot, they're all related, so it's all the side setbacks on the pavers and the coverage of the paver and obviously the canopy.

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How many cars registered in the house,

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plus a boat, which I keep in Pembroke Pines Storage. So it gets a little difficult. Don't like parking on the easements where you're killing the grass and on the streets. So aside from the wife condition, it's been a blessing for many other reasons.

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And you park those seven cars in the paved area there? I do. Well, I have

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two in the garage and then others outside.

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You have a lot 78 feet by 145.

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You basically covered up every piece of your lot, your residence there, which allows for no drainage at all. Yeah. I I wouldn't say every piece because I have the the planters there, which allows the water drain coming off the roof. We have zero drainage issues. The neighbors can testify. We don't even get

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a puddle on the street.

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That's not really an issue in our area. I have actually a city drain at the end of the block, which is a house down. There's really no issues with that.

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Looking at the picture, sir, there's very little room there for any water, for grass, for drainage. Unfortunately, you have pavers there to absorb

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Yeah, some of the they're a little permeable.

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We're entering hurricane season, the fact that you have a drain, and sometimes the requirements, the 40% requirement, which was increased from 35 for front lot coverage covered areas, was to allow a little variance, But you're asking for a 75% Member: increase, which is basically if every neighbor understood by himself to do this, we would have a issue with flooding in your area. And yes, there's a lake in back porch drain to, but when this was developed with those requirements, it was to protect yourself and your neighbors from high rains and flooding. So have Krishna, has there been any meetings with you to address any kind of remedies? Because you know the things that we're looking for that could be a problem.

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Well, my interaction with the petitioner goes back to twenty four, 'twenty three. Been working with them through conversations, sharing information, and recommendations have been made. However, over the that I missed before you, You need your assistance. However, we have discussed extensively.

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Have It's the best that I can say. Thank you. You have eight here. I'm sorry? You have eight here bearers. Yes, sir. Ruling on this board is final. You have the option to maybe review or remove one or two that you may want to reconsider with staff. You have the option to do so. But I'm gonna say for myself personally, the ZVR2026Dash006 with the coverage of your home poses, you know, an issue. You're outside of our limit.

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Again, there are no issues with with any kind of drainage. It's been there for three years, and we've we we don't even get a single puddle on the clock. I don't I don't see where, you know, removing a couple rows of pavers is gonna rectify or solve anything. I don't see myself removing any of it. I respectfully request that you guys reconsider. We haven't had any discussion with anybody. I'm sorry. I thought

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you said the I'm offering my opinion, giving you a up, giving you a chance to reconsider.

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Here's the issue is that in order to remove a couple rows of pavers, I would have to tear up a lot of the work that's done, landscape lighting, gravel, stainless steel borders to keep grass from coming in. It's not like I can just come in and remove a couple rows. And I understand your concern, but, again, I don't see that concern specifically in our area.

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Yeah. Thank you. Any questions, mister Frito? No. I think you covered it. Mister Pitts?

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No, I think you answered my question. You're saying that there are stationary vehicles inside of the garage currently that's primarily parked like majority 100% of the time?

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Permanently. Not permanently,

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but semi

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permanently. I think I'm good, Mr.

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Chairman. I'm a question.

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Sir, with respect and I appreciate the good faith. I appreciate everything's built of code. Everything you've done is above board. Your materials, your neighbors are here to support you. Everything's fine. You've got seven cars, a couple cars in the driveway that leaves five outside. If they're Okay with it, I'm Okay with it. But my question is this Beautiful home, Pembroke Lakes, all this work. Why not the permit? Why not go to the city before you did anything? You're an intelligent man. Why didn't you pull a permit?

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Well, because, to be honest with you, while I may seem intelligent or look intelligent, I was under the impression I I did all of that work myself, believe it or not. And my neighbors can attest to that too. Even down to building the structure for that canopy, I do stainless steel for a living. I wasn't I thought if I just did

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it myself, it wasn't a house. You don't get there by being ignorant. You live in the city of Pembroke Pines. You're a sharp man. I applaud what you said. I love the way you talk. I don't know why you're gunshot. You did better than everybody. Woah. Okay? And I appreciate the people you brought here. I may not be your forte, but you jumped right in. But I gotta tell you the truth. You're a successful man. You got a beautiful home. I applaud you. But all you had to do all you had to do was roll down and get a permit. Any adult could comprehend that. Now you're over 75% over, and we have to try to help you, and we're your neighbor. We wanna work with you. And he's giving you the hint going, go talk to mister Christian over there. Maybe you could work something out. And I know you have this this electricity you gotta pull up, and you got all these things you gotta pull up. And, sir, with all due humility, there was nothing permitted. That electricity electrical guy did look at that.

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And I mean, in all this good faith and everything's up to code, but the city doesn't know that. I believe you 1000% that everything's perfect. A man of your character wouldn't do anything any less. But the reality is, in the city of Pembroke Pines, you gotta pull a permit. And you got a lot of stuff here. You got eight items. And I understand one or two may be redundant, but the rest of them, you gotta pull permits. Now you live on the back of the water. Now I don't think there could be any flooding. You live on a canal. The water goes in the canal. So how could it puddle up in front of your house? But the biggest thing we're concerned with on this board is this thing called percolation. They drilled it into me when I first came on this board. That is when the water comes down,

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it has

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to have a place to go. We live in South Florida. That's the most important thing in the world. We can't get flooded out. The property damage, flood insurance. Just recently, the governor says everybody has to have flood. Even if you don't live in a flood zone, you gotta have flood. Everybody's got flood insurance now. So that's what everybody's concerned about. So when we keep asking you, we're worried about the water. We're worried about the water. That is our primary position. Now the only thing I'm gonna beg you, I'm gonna implore you, I'm gonna plead you, maybe you wanna table this, and maybe you wanna go talk to him and work something out that you can live with. Because if we vote on this, it might not be satisfactory to you because it's an awful lot to ask. So, I mean but what is easy to do is to talk to the city and come to a meeting of the minds and come back here and we'll work with you.

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I promise. We're here for our neighbors. We're not here we don't represent the city. We represent the citizens. So whatever you wanna do, if you wanna go forth with the vote, we're there.

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But if I

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I appreciate the scolding. I probably just

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That isn't a scolding. I'm on your side. I'm on your team. I want you to win, but I don't see how. Yeah. I want you to win.

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I I just don't see that that anything that I remove to satisfy the board

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Not us. Him. The city of Pembroke Pines. We're here trying to make this happen for you, to work with you, to make you win. We are your neighbor. We're here for you. We're not here against you. We're here to represent you. We are the buffer between the city and the citizen, but you gotta give us something to work with. And that's what I'm imploring you, sir, Because this is I'm gonna tell you personally. I'll give you this is a lot to ask. It really is. But what is it? If you could figure out a way somehow to come together with the city, you're not gonna have a problem with us because we're gonna applaud you for working with us. But if you want to do the vote, you go right ahead. But I'm telling you, it's an uphill thing.

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Your choice. One out of eight, sir. One out of eight. Mister attorney? No other question. No questions. Mr. Christians, there's no cost for him to make a reconsideration like a Pardon.

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Can you repeat that, please?

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There's no cost for him to meet with staff to reconsider.

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There's nothing for me to discuss further. We have been dealing with this situation for over three years. There's nothing else for me to recommend or suggest or do anything else. I have my encouragement is to anybody to follow the code, that we'll have a code, that we'll hear. There's nothing else for me to say or to provide an opinion. What I can say, Mr. Ruiz has been cooperated with me to allow us to get into the property and document the existing beautiful conditions related to the material. But unfortunately, it's excessive, and that's what we hear. There's nothing else for me to say. It's up to the board.

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If we decide to table this for my future revisit with the understanding that probably advertisement fees and others will have to be satisfied. That's all that I'm going to say.

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And also, anyone from the audience have anything to add or to say in? Come on. Come in and sign your name in. State your name and that. Sir, please remain.

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Good evening. Do you need my address? Timothy Neal, 11910 Northwest 23rd Street, Pembroke Pines, 33026. My house backs up to his across the lake. As we've discussed, it's beautifully maintained. It's not an island. It's probably like the prettiest property around. I'm a retired firefighter. The structure in the front, from my opinion in being in the recovery of multiple hurricanes is not a windstorm issue. It's a canvas or fabric cover.

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Also, was there in 1999. We had Hurricane Irene, 17 inches of rain. All our streets were dry. We've had a street flooding issue. Even as it was alluded to that now everybody has to pay flood insurance from twenty five, twenty six years in that neighborhood, streets have never flooded. They've had a few puddles on them and it goes away in a day. I would like to support Mr. Ruiz in his request.

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We're all supporting our neighbors as Mr. Said. But as we have one home to start, others take up the same scenario. And that's where we have engineers, city engineers, to calculate drainage because our pipes are just so much to allow for retention of water. And but I hope you once again a chance to reconsider with staff, ZBR o o six to be considered. Thank you. 75% front line coverage.

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Sure, I can reconsider.

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You can table that and come back with a workable solution. Like you said, you did the work yourself. Give it a month. You did the work yourself. So it's, like I said, we have to abide by we can offer rules, but then we cannot go against certain regulations and building code. Governed by the South Florida Building Codes. And they keep increasing the wind load every year. It's not a wind load issue, but the drainage. If you've ever driven down Pines Boulevard on four day rain, the first lane of that road is underwater. The sidewalk is underwater. The swell is full.

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I haven't witnessed it myself, but again, that's not

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I experience it all the time. It's not case

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our particular area. Yeah. Okay.

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And like I said, once again, when one home does it, other homeowners may do the same. And we have a catastrophe. And it starts here with this board giving leniency. We lean in many ways.

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Understood. So do you want me to do that now, or is this something we table and come back to?

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Just that one. I'm being I'm speaking out of turn, but I think that we kinda over our history here together, we know which one would would give us an issue. ZVR six, would you consider tabling that one and meeting with staff and working out a reasonable solution to be within the guidelines that's acceptable to this board and to the building department? Okay? Thank you. Good. Thank you. Attend the motion for ZVR2026Dash005.

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Sir, I make the motion, for ZVR2026005 to approve it under one five five point three zero one one c.

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I second.

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The motion is second for CVR 2026Dash005. Roll call, madam clerk.

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Member Appendondolas? Yes. Vice chair Brito?

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Member Pitts? Yes. Member Turner?

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Chairman Kroll? Yes. Motion passes.

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ZBR2026Dash007. Mister chairman,

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I make a motion to approve it under 155.301Dash1DashCFor ZVR20260007.

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I second.

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Good motion and second for ZVR2026Dash007. Roll call, madam clerk.

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I'm sorry. I was confused.

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We're gonna table zero zero six.

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Okay. And who seconded?

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I seconded.

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Thank you. Member Evan Donvalo? Yes. Vice chair Burrito?

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Member Schritz? Yes. Member Turner? Yes. Chairman Crawl? Yes. Motion passes.

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ZBR2026Dash008.

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Mister chairman, I make a motion for approval of ZBR 2026Dash0008 under one five five point three zero one one c.

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I second.

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Motion is second. Madam Clerk.

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Member Amendotolo? Yes. Vice chair Brito? Yes. Member Pitts? Yes. Member Turner?

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Yes. Chairman Kroll?

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Yes. Motion passes.

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ZBR2026Dash009. Go ahead.

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I I motion to approve ZBR26 2026009 underneath section one one One c. Oh, one c.

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Gotcha. Yeah.

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I second.

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The motion is second. Roll call, madam clerk.

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Member Turner?

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Member Admiral? Yes. Vice Chabrito?

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Yes. Member Tritz?

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Yes. Chairman Frost?

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Yes. ZBR2020.

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Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve ZBR twenty twenty six-ten to allow 4.6 along the segment of the western side of the property under section 155.3011 subsection C.

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I second. Motion

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is second. Madam Clerk.

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Member Pitts? Yes. Vice chair Burrito.

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Member Abbedondo. Yes. Member Turner.

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Chair McCrawl. Yes. Motion passes.

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ZBR two zero two six dash zero zero one one.

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Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve ZBR 20 26Dash0011 to allow 1.1 setback along the segment of the western side of the property line under section one five five point three zero one variance one subsection c. I second.

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Motion and second. Roll call, madam clerk.

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Member Pitts? Yes. Vice chair Brito? Yes. Member Avondondolo? Yes. Member Turner? Yes. Chair McCraw?

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Yes. Motion passes. We didn't have a chance to discuss the reasoning to allow two trees as opposed to having three at a minimum.

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I make a motion.

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I believe that's a misunderstanding. When you read out in the beginning, there was a permit, a tree removal permit issued in February and I guess they looked at an aerial, and there's like a small magnolia tree that was there. And we took that out and put in the three palm trees, but there was never a shade tree or a canopy tree on the property.

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So you have three trees?

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I have three palm trees at the front and a bunch of bushes and podocarpus. There's plenty

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of landscape. Can we see the front of the home again?

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Looks like a forest.

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Okay. So, Mr. Zamora, is this still an issue? Because he has three palm trees there, and that is the minimum.

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Yeah, well, there's a technicality. A palm tree technically is not a tree, right, because it doesn't have the value in terms of cannabis. But we're not discussing this issue. We're discussing the amount.

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Can I make a motion? The amount? Yes. So you have three trees.

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So I have three palm trees, but the zoning department looks at three palm trees as equal to one canopy tree. But I never had a canopy tree. There was never a canopy tree on the property. There's aerials from a few years back, and what was there was a small magnolia. And we took that out and put in three, adult palm trees.

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Yes. Actually, this, the Roos family share a record from back in the day, 2003, that was issued, but at the same time when the pool was done. I'm not clear. I couldn't really confirm whether the required material was put back in the process. Apparently not. But that was

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Yeah. It was all handwritten, verbal and all that kind of stuff.

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I've got

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a copy of it here if you'd like to see it. And

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actually, the applicant or the owner at that time

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Looks like CP

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Smith Park. Frank Sardella, he did the improvements to the property, such as the pool, the insulated roof structure, the increase in size over the last six years, and obviously, the whole apartment for defense as well. So what I'm saying is that the city granted a permit to remove the trees, but apparently never were replaced. I'm not certain whether they were required to be replaced. But I don't mind the property at that time. We're through the process.

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There's a bunch of handwritten notes on the permit. Nothing really

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So the variants requested will clear up the issue regardless of the Of anything else. Correct.

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question, Mr.

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Chair. Have a question. Mr. Pitts has a question.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Maybe it's for Christian. I have a question in regards to the variance request listed here. It says to allow two trees and maybe for the homeowner. Are you looking to remove a tree? Because it No, says two

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no, no. Is this an error that you're seeing? By cleaning the property and the requirements of the code. But there's no additional planting that's going to be taking place if that is your question.

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So is the variance written in the report accurate to say two trees?

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Correct. Because the value equates what exists in there equates to two

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trees. You made a statement earlier about palm trees not being

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They do have a different value. They don't have the same value in terms of canopy. And that's what we're looking at. The city, our city is a tree, USA City tree. So therefore, it has specific standards related to amount of landscape type of trees in the single family residence, commercial, industrial, so forth and on.

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Wow. I see the trees. I see the shrubbery and so forth.

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So there's no vote? We can't vote

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on this? We need to vote

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I make a motion. Can I make a motion? No.

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Go ahead, Mr. Chairman. Go ahead. I'm

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ready. You need a motion?

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I can make a motion.

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Is your lot larger than 8,000 square feet? Well, yes.

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Yeah, it's 9,000 some odd.

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Oh, wow. Look at this. Mean, there's a tree. Three trees make one canopy.

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That's what I learned.

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It's more so the value. So

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if he needs two more trees, that means

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And nine shrubs. And shrubs. You have you have If

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you all approve the variance, he won't have an issue with what If we approve this,

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he has no issue. Correct?

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Correct.

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And this all dies. Correct?

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Correct. Mister chairman? Motion was ZVR2026Dash0012.

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Chairman, I make a motion

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for approval of ZVR2026 over 0012

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slowing down my boo boo. Yeah.

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Under 155.3011C. I need a second.

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I second. Oh. The motion is second, madam clerk. Roll call.

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Member Evan Duntalo? Yes. Vice Chair Burrito? Yes. Member Pitts? Yes. Was a yes. Member Turner? Yes. Chairman Crawl?

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Yes. Motion passes. Okay. Mr. Ruiz, you received quite a bit today.

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You still need to do the other one.

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Just quickly, I'm not clear six. If So you can provide clarification for the record. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? All right. So ZBR2020Dash006. What is the decision to the board in regards to that petition?

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Yeah. Miss Ruth is gonna table that and meet with you to

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When would you like to table it for?

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In two months. Next one.

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No. In two months, there will be no meeting. Next available meeting will

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be Three months. Three months is fine.

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So you believe for the first meeting in August? Sounds good. Yes. Yes. Could

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we not come to

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a resolution August to work this out with the city.

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Could we not come to a resolution today? I mean, hate to push my load.

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Once again, sir? Said, I could we not

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come to a resolution today? I hate to push my load.

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Once again Mr. Rolus, read the room. Do your best. Okay. Meet with Steph. Come back in three months. They give you a chance to make some modifications. He knows the guidelines, which we have to stick with him. Thank you.

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So we just need to put that onto the record and motion the table until the August meeting just so it's clear.

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A 100%. So if the board would proceed that way, or they're certain, then it is my understanding. Do we have to advertise? Or we don't have to advertise in order to help the residents. So they have to pay for it.

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What date is the meeting?

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It will be August. What is the August?

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Hold on a second.

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The sixth.

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Yeah. It will be the sixth.

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August 6.

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So that's the determination before that

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So the motion will be the table the table ZVR two thousand twenty six zero zero six to 08/06/2026 That's it.

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2026 zero six zero zero zero.

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Pitts. Mr. Pitts. At

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06:30PM, City Commission Chambers.

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Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to table ZBR twenty twenty six dash zero zero zero six to the 08/06/2026 meeting of the Board of Adjustments in the City Of Pembroke Pines chambers. I second.

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Motion and second. Roll call. Madam Clerk.

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Member Pitts?

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Chair vice chair Burrito? Yes. Member Evan Douglas? Yes. Member Turner? Yes. Chairman Kroll?

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Yes. Motion passes. Mister Roost, you have a good time to work with Citi and work with this. Congratulations on resolving some issues. It's almost three hour three years in in the making. Okay? Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. And good part. You have your neighbors here to help

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Thank you

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you, Thank you. Appreciate it.

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Lisa and Coca Cola for everybody. Okay? And Will Barrows. No more cars. Alright?

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Thank you all for your attendance tonight. Thank you. Ma'am, you have a question? Come on, come on, come on, on up. You got to read your name in.

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Whatever it is. It was the chairman. It's his name.

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up. Please, on up. Come on up. Do you

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have a question? Sure. Just push him out

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of the way. Say your name.

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Say your Say your name. Come on officially.

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Here we go. Starting off.

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Your name and address, please.

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I'm Diane Neal. I'm at 11910 Northwest 23rd Street, Pembroke Pines, 33026. I also live across the street. I do I understand that seven of the variances have been approved, but that one

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We're tailing that one to reconsider. For the drainage. Right. For the front of the home with the circular driveway because when it we have certain guidelines. The maximum is now 40%. He's at 75%. And if we allow every home to start increasing he has seven cars. That's a little unusual. And we have to take into consideration the fact that every homeowner does it. We have a problem and flooding.

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Okay. On the subject of flooding, because you were discussing pavers, that there's a lot of pavers, does it take into account that they're not solid pavers? There's a lot of rock Yeah. Where there is drainage

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We take consideration. Over the

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and the sides.

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We take consideration.

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Okay. I just thought

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The old rule

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that was just

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The old rule was 35%. We encouraged staff to increase it to 40%. But to go to 75% is a little excessive.

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Oh, okay.

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And for everybody here, please, any work you're gonna do in your home, please get permits. Come on. Come on. Come to the front.

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Come down. We

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have all the business.

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I know. I know. But I want to

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make see, he's got plenty of help

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to move the pavement.

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Mr. Chair, we have a business to conduct Right.

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But I'm going to give you a chance because

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We're enlightening a community. And I want them to know that all work, as Victor said, must be permitted.

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Can you hear me now?

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State your name.

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My name is Laura. Laura Ernesto Cruz. We live right across from them, which means their garage is right across from my garage, Okay? There's never been any floating, not in the street, not anywhere. They take care of the landscaping very well. Their house is one of the most beautiful in the street, period. They do have a lot of cars, but they don't park it just everywhere where it is disturbing the rest of the neighbors. They park it where they're supposed to park it inside their garage, and it's normally closed. They have cars where they take it out and put it back. But normally, they're always very well taken, and they don't disturb the community at all.

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They never park on the street. They're parking their pavers in their spaces. And they keep up with the cleaning outside very beautifully. She even have orchids on those beautiful palm trees, which they say they're not really trees. But they do are palm trees. And they are trees. And the reason why I'm talking about this is because I Ma'am, removed Sorry.

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We've had the public discussion on this already.

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No. The reason why I say this is

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You had the opportunity when he asked for the public to come up to say these things. You should have came up

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asking Man, he won. Come on.

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But what I'm saying is All I'm

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saying The hearing the hearing is over.

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I know. I'm not adding anything to you guys. I'm but I know you guys are great, and you guys have

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to everything. We have we have other business, so thank you all for your attendance.

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Man, he won.

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He won. And he's going to win number eight, probably. He's winning. Don't ruin that. Protect the win. Thank you for your time. Thanks. Protect the win, lady. Thank you.

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All right.

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Thank you. Good night, everyone. You're All safe

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Good night, everyone. Good night. Thanks for coming. Thank you for being here. Thank you so

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much. Thanks, everyone. Okay.

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Thanks for

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not throwing anything.

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Christian? Let's deal with the report here.

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Yes, yes.

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We have before us the twenty twenty five dash twenty twenty six draft annual report to the city commission, which

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Obviously, this is the work product that was brought up as a draft last meeting. It was sent to you today, worked with the chair. So what rests in front of you is version one draft and version two draft. Version one draft includes some historical recommendations that the board has transmitted and has been brought on carry on. However, really, it's up to you to decide whether you want to include, remove some of those recommendations, or simply make no recommendation.

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And the recommendation that you said we may want to consider removing are underlying?

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On the version Number five. One the version one, there's some remarks done by the board in the past. One of them, but more specifically item number five, it talks about some actuary regulations that the board back in the day wanted to include in our city code. But due to some of the state laws that preempt the HOA, obviously, they're not viable anymore. So that's my understanding, at least I'm on the wrong side. Maybe counsel can You're

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good. Yep.

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Could you

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so he's basically said there's there's things that prevent the city from creating laws that are more burdensome. So it's gonna be hard to do that. And also, there's some changes to the HOA laws in the state by the legislature. I'm not sure if that's been signed into law yet, but I know it's still on the table to be signed. So we're still not there yet.

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I think the items on the report are the items that have actually come through you all, And the recommendation for new changes to the code is what Christian was speaking to. We we have to be very careful. The city had changes, and I'm not sure if you were working on any of that stuff, Christian, where we had to remove a lot of them that, clarified things because it was could be perceived as more burdensome based on the state law that we have now. The old Senate Bill 100

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Yeah, 100%, 180. It's been worked on. The last amendment to the code was done in 2024.

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So Go ahead, Chris. I'm sorry.

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So that's the best that I can correlate. Thanks for your support, Quentin. Like I said, our hands are somewhat tied regarding additional regulations that will create a burden on the restrooms. I

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haven't and just for purposes of the board, I haven't heard you all, besides the issue we just talked about with the lot coverage being increased. And I don't think you wanted to have that further increase based on, you know, the past year. I don't I haven't heard any additional recommendations that you guys were, hoping to have. We like to keep

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it that 40% and just on a case by case basis.

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Are we just voting on which submission from version one or version two?

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Pretty much. I think the case information is accurate, which is all the ZVRs that you've had over the last year so that the commission can see it in a longer form so that you can present the report to them saying this is the work that we've done over the past year. At this time, we're not recommending any code changes. Correct. Okay. Now

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I'm not certain if you would like to do that or maybe you want to discuss in the future. Right.

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That's that's that's the question. But it's it's gonna be hard to do more restrictive code changes and I and I haven't heard from y'all to do anything more relaxed through cold anymore. More relaxed. Looking at number five,

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the board recommends that homeowners association rules and regulations governing our Western developments be adopted via city ordinance to apply to our eastern areas of the city, not governed by a mandatory HOA. That includes parking of commercial vehicles, boats, trailers, mobile homes, campers, erection of temporary structures, prohibition of clothesline, drying, radio and TV antenna, etcetera.

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So that part is probably gonna be difficult even if you recommend it. And just because you recommend it, obviously, it doesn't mean it's gonna happen because it has to be reviewed. But if that's something you still feel, that's fine to have in the report but it's going to be difficult basically.

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I'd rather not restrict anyone because the eastern portion, that's an older section of Pembroke Pines, and they have smaller lots, smaller circular driveways, smaller everything.

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So Christian can take that part out for you.

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Yeah, yeah. Just want to make sure that you're Okay, that we can remove that if that's your decision. Like I said, brought up to commission, stays on the book. Nothing really has been discussed. We want to put it in front of you for your decision.

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Because some families still do clothesline drying. And they do have boats and campers in the side yard. And that's something we don't want

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There's to issues happening with regards to some of that. Right? Especially in the Eastern side.

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So are we to now this is for the June. Do we have to vote tonight?

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You have to vote tonight, or we can transmit this report to the clerk to be included in June 4 second board meeting.

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Number five is something that we're trying to say that the western portion

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Yeah, can of he'll remove that at your request.

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I just want you to understand. We're it's basically saying the western portion of Plymouth is more restrictive, no votes and so forth. But the eastern side, we want them to comply with it.

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You mean the West wants to be with the

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East? Well,

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we want to keep the East so just just so what's there now was prior discussions from the board, prior to this current sitting board and prior to some of the changes in the law. That was something the things that was discussed back then. Doesn't mean you have to agree with it right now. What are we voting on?

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I am so at a loss. I'm so sorry. I don't understand any Please forgive me.

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Okay. Can

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I explain? Please try. So as you know, in June, the city commission has all the advisory boards give their annual reports. That's what you're voting on right now. Part of the prior annual reports that this board used to produce had a clause that said, we want the East and the West to have the same provision. What the chairman is saying, he doesn't want to include that anymore.

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That's correct. I I see, mister chairman.

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So now we're telling you're gonna tell Christian to remove that before that report's filed with the city's clerk. Correct.

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Yeah. That would be great. Yeah.

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Okay. Imagine people in the East Side can have boats and campers and clotheslines. And that's not

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They're going to keep with it. Not going to work in the West Side. But the West Side, they live in these homeowner established communities. They know what they're buying when

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they get in there. But the East Side is grandfather lived from 1960.

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Yeah. Well they don't have a home ownership.

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So is the rest Okay with you all? Yes. Yes. Okay.

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I guess. Do we have to vote or just

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Yeah, you should vote just so it's clear.

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Right. Vote, understood. Make a clear motion so I can go ahead and remove that section.

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So the motion would be to approve the draft with removal of that particular number

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What if I want number two? You

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want number two? What is number two with the east You and the like number two? Oh, I don't. What's the difference between version one and version two?

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One has no recommendations. And then one has five recommendations.

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I just want to make

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no recommendations. You want to make no recommendations.

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Well, that's what we send it to so you can take a look at it, read it, understand it, and decide What what would include you like or not?

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No, he wants the one that has no additional recommendations. That's something that you're able to do, obviously. Because the recommendations you may not want now or you may not agree with.

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Just keep in mind that some of these regulations is to maintain the The adjustment board. City aspect of our city. They're little by little, they disappear. Partially, this board is contributing to some of that by approving all the various requests. I just want to make that clear because that falls on you.

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No recommendations, no adjustment board.

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Is that true?

1:21:572

That's not true.

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It looks right.

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Yeah. It is like I think you get illusioned. That's what he just said.

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No. He didn't.

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I like say

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it like that?

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What did he say? That it could be maybe you know, I'm gonna read between

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the Let's look at Christian.

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Christian doesn't have that

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authority. DELL:

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I know he didn't say that. He was just communicating his opinion. I understand that. Can we

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only please talk

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my please, edit we're trying to conduct business. I appreciate the respect that I deserve. So you what I'm saying is that it's up to you to make a recommendation to be included on the report. Also, I'm reminding you that you are leaders that assist the city and the commission maintain the aesthetic qualities of the city. In the last report that we put together, basically, the board approves everything. That's a concern of me and the staff. But it's your decision. That's all I got to say.

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You're upset.

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Okay. What about

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we put a motion to accept one through four and remove five that puts the West the same roads.

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Please. Mr. Turner, go ahead.

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So motion to move forward for recommendations one through four to be approved and removing, recommendation number five.

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Under version one. Under version one.

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Under version one. Oh, yeah. Version one. Second.

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Second. The motion and second, Madam Clerk. Okay,

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thank you.

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just going do it off a voice vote?

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We'll go with version one removing.

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Do you want our roll call or voice vote?

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Roll call or voice vote?

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Roll call, please.

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Okay. Member Turner? Yes. Member Pitts? No. Member Avondondolo? Yes. Member Brito? Yes. Chairman Kroll?

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Okay. Passes four to one.

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Is that it?

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Thank We've to do the absences, and then we'll be done.

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Secretary? Is that version one, the moving five?

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Yes. Thank you. Absent vote. Mr. Chair, I'd like to recommend the excuse of Ace America. Second. Motion is seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passed. Any further business of Mr. Zamora? Now, in this report, when I present it, do we hand a copy to the commissioners or just come out and read it?

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No, you will have to come in as the board chair and provide a report.

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Okay. All right.

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They'll have a copy of it because

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Provided it. Once I make the change, there's a formality. I will send it through you all to make sure that that's what they want. So if the chair responds, I will submit that to the clerk. You will transmit to the clerk in June. Correct. That's board night. One more thing. There's no May meeting. So next meeting will be June 3.

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June 3. And the commission meeting is when?

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Same place, same period. June 3 and the commission meeting. Then you will have board night. So board night, I think, is I'm not certain with the So

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we're meeting June 3.

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commission meeting?

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In a row.

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Yeah. Like last night. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Any further any further discussion tonight? Meeting is adjourned at 07:48.

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