City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, April 28, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
Location
Moab, UT
Meeting Date
April 28, 2026

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142 sections (from 406 segments)

1:49 – 2:310

would like the green start. All righty. Welcome everybody. Good to see everybody here today. Uh I'm going to call the Moab City Council meeting to order on Tuesday, April 28th, 2026 at 6:02 p.m. And let's see. Miles, will you lead us in this pledge? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

2:28 – 4:270

All right. First up, public comments. I have two folks that have filled out some form the form. if you're interested in speaking tonight, if you could fill out one of these forms and get it to Michael. Uh we'll start with you, Bill. Good evening everybody. So, um my name is Billy and I live on Mil Creek Drive. I feel like I have to start with that part. and and over the past year I've spoken to many of you regarding OV related noise and again I want to thank you for your time and attention to this matter. Um I'm here this evening to kind of hear what the city council, the mayor and the MO administrators are proposing for with respect to speed limits on certain routes in the city of Moab. It's also my understanding that the city of Moab is considering repealing ordinance 2020-15 and and I kind of understand why you're considering it. Um, but I think this ordinance just may need to be updated for point of clarification. So, for example, the use of OV should be for street legal ATVs, but the intent is well researched and well founded in Utah State code. I think in fact it does comport with the motor vehicle codes of Utah. Specifically, if you look at just the Utah code 416A 601, and I'll try to be brief in the future when I refer these numbers, then it would appear that section two of this ordinance prevents MOAB from setting speed limits based on vehicle type. But 601 is subject to other codes. In particular, you know, again, 41,6A, 602, and 603. These state codes allow for municipalities, specific municipalities to determine and set reasonable and safe speed limits for each vehicle on highway and that is defined as a public road or section of highways

4:26 – 6:260

under this jurisdiction under its jurisdiction. So under code 602 for example, municipalities may establish different speed limits for on highway again public road for section of the highway based on time of day, highway construction, vehicle type and weather conditions. So, it's my opinion. Therefore, this gives municipalities the latitude to establish speed limits by time of day and vehicle type. And since speed limits are properly posted in Moab per 602 subsection five or section 5, they are enforceable. You've posted them. That means they are enforcable. Removal of those signs that that makes 15 miles an hour posting for OVs, if you remove them, then then they become uninforcable. So, I don't think that's what you want to undo. A lot of effort's been put into posting those signs. They just need to be enforced. So, now I think reducing overall speed on specific tourist and commercial corridors is prudent for safety and noise. Go ahead. I think 25 or 20 miles an hour is a good idea in certain areas, but avoiding the opportunity to protect residents from street legal ATVs that are not engineered to travel on residential roads is risky. Somebody's going to get injured. So reducing speeds for these types of vehicles is a safety concern and and because speed equals noise, it also will reduce noise, which is really the denominator of this conversation. So now that I know there's there's concern that city MOAB will be sued for enforcing the existing city ores for street legal ATVs, based on the above argument, I think that MOAB would be would survive any legal challenge and I think their current opinion is a bit too conservative. And given the attention this has drawn, I think Moab actually has a higher uh greater liability exposure for not enforcing them in the event somebody's injured. So anyway, you know, the residents of Moab think we're just worth the risk of litigation. Thank you.

6:230

Thanks, Bill. Kaylin, it's nice to see you. Good to see you all.

6:33 – 8:330

I'm Kayn Jones, 900 Kane Creek Boulevard. Well, absolutely. Um, good evening, mayor and council. I'm here to speak in strong support of item 5.1, adoption of ordinance 2026-09, establishing Moab's community clean energy program. This is an exciting moment for our city. For years, Moab has set clear aspirations around sustainability, energy conservation, and climate leadership. Tonight is about turning long-standing goals into measurable action. It shows that our plans are not just words on paper. They are a roadmap we are willing to follow. That matters because across the country, many cities have adopt have adopted ambitious climate targets, but far fewer have been able to put real implementation implementation tools into practice. Utah renewable communities is significant because it creates a practical pathway to cleaner electricity through the existing utility system. It is not just another pledge. It is a mechanism that can deliver results. Just as importantly, this approach is designed with affordability in mind. The program structure spreads costs over time and across a broad base, helping keep impacts manageable for typical rate payers. And the inclusion of provisions for low-income households through protections, exemptions, and targeted support help ensure that the transition to clean energy doesn't leave anyone behind. That balance is critical. Climate action must be durable and durability depends on it being economically workable for the whole community. For Moab, cleaner electricity also helps unlock progress in many other parts of the sustainability plan. As our community electrifies transportation,

8:30 – 9:340

improves building efficiency, installs heat pumps, and reduces fossil fuel use. These gains become even more meaningful when the grid itself is cleaner. Item 5.1 is a force multiplier. It makes future investments work even better. And of course, this comes in the broader context of climate change. We live in a landscape defined by beauty, but also by vulnerability, heat, drought, wildfire risk, drought stress, and their impacts to our economy and homes. Communities our size do not solve climate change alone, but leadership is cumulative. When Moab acts, it has momentum, credibility, and an example other communities can follow. Tonight, Moab has a chance to show that even a small city can take big actions, practical, scalable, and hopeful actions. Thank you for your leadership, and please vote yes on item 5.1. Thank you.

9:31 – 10:130

Thank you, All right. Anybody else want to speak? Okay, we'll move on to department updates. And first, we're going to have Alexi. Um, she's going to be on the agenda a lot this evening. It's always nice to see Alexi in front of us. Uh, first off, we're going to talk about non-motorized trail way. And this is primary, my understanding, is the north side of town. And um it's really about a connection between the city and the county, getting people out of the city into the county trails. So um take it away.

10:09 – 12:080

Yeah, Val's here also. Uh so the this first update uh you may remember adopting the non-motorized trail plan uh last year and back around November at the same time um that was wrapping up we were starting this address the need that was in that plan and also in the unified transportation master plan that we could benefit from more uniform cohesive wayf finding to help people get around town and out of town into areas in the county. Uh these are some examples of the variety of trail signs, uh different styles that we have around town. That's just a few examples. Uh Landmark Design has been working with us uh to create an inventory of all of this signage and okay, there it is. Uh and the different purposes of that signage. So, some of it's course confirmations or decision points, interpretive signage, trail head identifications, uh regulatory or safety signs and um taking that this inventory of 74 existing signs. They've identified them, taken photos of them, and then they've also proposed additional places that we could use them uh and made some recommendations on things that we should keep, replace, remove, etc. So that is one aspect of this uh providing us with some recommendations about where we want signs and then from there uh looking at how to create a cohesive system so we can have a library of signs for the different purposes that we have. All right. So we're down to a working draft on this concept. This is a little smaller than I had imagined it would be, but uh putting together that that

12:05 – 14:050

library of signage. So, starting here in the middle of the top, uh they took some inspiration from our logo and the river happens to look a lot like a trail and created a kind of cohesive sign uh that we could possibly use other places. And our stakeholder group for this included a variety of city and county employees uh to and elected people. Colin was involved in this uh to try to make sure that we had the opportunity for this to transition from let's say being on the Milk Parkway to if you wanted to ride out to Arches or to the bar end trails. So although the the city of Moab could change out to be something else, we could still have this trail sign shape color system that could uh translate to a lot of different purposes. And then we have additionally some safety signs. Uh this I think will be expanded some. Right now it's share the fun, share the path. Uh if you can see there, there's a number of people doing a lot of different things on our trails, which is true. Um, although I don't know about writing a dinosaur. Uh, and the idea is to keep it playful, but also to have a few different versions of this to remind people about different trail etiquette and safety uh, rules that they can follow while they're using the trails. All right. So, from from there, we go to this library of different purposes. uh in the place that I have like right now that's just the different ways that we could express an arrow on a sign. Um the first one is just a straight course confirmation. Then we have these uh coming off this sign kind of arrows um that are more playful and some kind of uh just directional ones that we could stick on the pole. They were just trying to give us a few different options because the committee was discussing that. But everything else here is uh

14:02 – 15:290

looking at a system of signs that can work for different things. So colors can designate different types of uh destinations people might be going to, whether it's a city location, a city park, or maybe more of a recreational destination. Uh then we have things going from like a trail head identification that would have a map to directional signs and course confirmations that might be uh more suited to different types of sites. Um or in areas where we can't even put signs, things that we could just stick on pavements for people to look at and be able to continue with that sign uh and stay on the trails. All of that said, we're still in the process. Uh the the committee has given them a lot of feedback. Right now we're trying to get into more of a final stage of where the first locations for signs could be because this will probably come in in iterations of trying to sign certain directions that people might be taking or pathways they might be on trails. It won't all be at once. Uh but this is a few examples of the kind of locations that these could show up. Uh we've got some funding in this current fiscal year and that'll be the first ones we roll into and then we'll go out from there. So the the yellow areas on the map are priorities for future rollouts of signs and like the first couple rounds. There any questions? Questions?

15:29 – 16:010

Remind us uh there is funding in this current fiscal year and then also in that next year's uh proposed budget. Yeah. Okay. How how is this funded? I guess which which budget is this? CIP. This is CIP. Yeah. CIP currently. There is also an opportunity to apply for a York grant for wayfinding. So currently it's CIP. In the future, we also might find other funding sources. Great.

15:58 – 17:410

Mine's more of a note, but um I really love the design of the new signs um and that we could have They're clean up after your dad.

17:39 – 18:200

They're a hazard on the side. Yep. No, they leave doggy bags after. Just wait till they see that jackaloupe, though. They're gonna Yeah. I know. Yeah. Anything else for Lexi? Well, I guess I I'm interested in hearing from Colin. And I'm also interested in hearing how you guys identified the priority areas or how what what you're thinking about in terms of implementation and language of signs and what this starts to look like like how we're picking different signs in those locations or specifically how I picked those locations.

18:15 – 18:420

Um or both. I guess more so that I I I really like the the package um and the diversity. I think you have four different examples here. Several priority areas identified on the map. Um I guess I'm just kind of broad question about what implementation starts to look like or like how you're starting to decide. Yeah. Fine language.

18:38 – 19:420

Yeah. Uh the priority locations were stakeholder feedback about particular areas that people get confused or get off trail or have trouble continuing on when they would like to. So that was a lot of the reason we picked those different locations. And then um I think what we're hoping to do, and we haven't gotten to this stage yet, but we're hoping to do when we pick those first locations for signs, is to get some pathway that is intact with the signs, as in if you got on the trail here and you got off here, you would have some continuous wayinding and signage on that particular route. Um that said, some people would intersect with one a route that was partially signed if they didn't have the same destination we had intended. Um and then we would develop it from there is trying to come up with different routes that would be entirely um signed in a way that people could follow them. And hopefully as we build out those connections will grow too.

19:40 – 20:260

And that that's what I was going to answer too that these are uh identified as key decision- making points. Um, you know, whether uh, you know, places that that have been either problematic in the past or, you know, just just or areas of of uh, you know, congestion, the things that, you know, we identified as as you know, just just the the greatest uh, need first. You know, it's funny like just today I got I was riding with someone and I got chastised on sections because I was like, "Aren't we turn like aren't we turning here?" And I'm like, "I don't know what to do here. I don't know where it goes, you know, and you know, and I'm like, do do we go here to catch the pathway or we go down Main Street to catch, you know, and so

20:24 – 21:050

I can't keep holding Jason's hand through. I need some signage to help him find his way through. Did I say it was common? It was just I mean, it was he was breaking down. We ended up riding down the wrong way on Main Street. It was just it was a just one one simple sign. But we had this but we actually had this discussion though as we're writing. I'm like I'm like I don't know like what are you what are you supposed to do right here? Like you know and so this like that's one of the key spots on here is is right there. So So the sign has to start out with Jason. Jason. Yeah. Get off your dinosaur and walk across. You just want to personalize the sign.

21:05 – 21:480

Jason notice one of those fig. We should do a similar with Jason on there. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Anything else? Go ahead, Miles. One final Well, a couple final questions. One, I'm assuming that any of the on pavement signs we're going to be doing out of thermoplastic rather than painting. That is the plan right now. And that way they last longer. They they brought up the idea of painting and our stakeholder group or or committee had issues with the the maintenance on it. So, it's looking like what we're going to do is full color and thermoplastic instead of doing a one color painting stencil.

21:44 – 21:550

Makes sense. And do we have the like broad strokes on what a simple sign tree would cost?

21:52 – 22:460

We don't yet. Yeah, we have a few choices that we can make. They put together different options for us. Um, this is like a summary, but essentially there's a few different ways that we could do this. um powder coating signs, layering, sandwiching signs. Um some of them are going to be more dur durable and more expensive and we haven't decided yet which direction we want to go. So we'll probably get a couple of them priced out, but we don't have those yet. And and I will add Miles that uh this this stakeholder group was a really phenomenal group because we had Levi and Cody from Grant uh County Roads and they were both able to you know give a lot of input on on maintenance and and installation of this stuff and uh you know so it was a very uh comprehensive process in terms of all all those details you know with with such a broad it was really cool.

22:44 – 23:230

That sounds excellent. Thermoplastic was top of my mind because I was like, "We're going to spend money on this. Let's spend money on something that's going to last versus having to maintain it frequently." Yep. Yeah. Yeah. The stakeholder groups been great. And also Landmark, I was impressed with how much research they had done on the different colors that would be available on powder coating, on the type of construction. So, we just haven't gotten to the point in this this like process yet. And also, we have to land on some other things to have our final design, like do the arrows poke off of the sign or not. Cool. We're we're almost there, I think.

23:20 – 23:410

Yeah. Great process. Yeah. Yeah. And Alexi, thank you so much for guiding this process. You did a phenomenal job. Yeah. It's been Well, it's been fun. Your concerns. All right. Thank you. Don't go anywhere. Yeah. Here. The next item is water conservation outreach update.

23:40 – 25:380

Okay, I'm going to start this one and Val is going to chime in on some of the process as well because Lisa, Val and I have been working on how this proc like how we will work on water conservation throughout this like summer season. Uh so this is a followup on the conservation update we did at the last meeting with a little more detail on what people can do and how they will know what they should be doing. Uh first is what um the water shortage response plan recommends a variety of actions that are at this stage voluntary but it has these these are just a few examples uh some specific actions that people can take and recommendations about doing it. So these actions range from fix range from fixing leaks uh to actions that would be targeted more at businesses to things that anybody could do in their landscape. Uh and then these actions from the plan are what we're going to recommend people do at this point. And then if we get to a higher stage in there, some of these things would become mandatory. Uh so Val will talk some more about how people will know what they're doing. Yeah. So, what are we actually doing and what's the plan? Um, like Alexi said, we've been working together with Lisa on this. Lisa put together a really great um outlook of what we're thinking through the summer, through the end of September of what we want to be doing, how we get this in front of people. Um, what types of groups we're trying to look at for getting this in front of people. Um, and I can just kind of read through this. Right now, we're already doing this. Lisa released a press release last week. Um, it has some really salient points for individuals, businesses, hotels, things like that. And we've updated our information on the city website. Um, if you just Google City of Moab water conservation, you can find it right up there. Um, we're going

25:36 – 27:350

to be doing one social media post a week with a different tip. Uh, Lisa already got one up last week. I'm in the trenches learning how to make a reel right now. It's uh it's lots of different noise effects and transitions and things and uh yeah. Yeah, we're going to be uh hitting it hard and uh making sure that people know and having a steady beat and getting a drum going on all of this. Um another strategy we are going to pursue is to distribute flyers around town. Uh that's a little bit where this $10,000 that we budgeted towards this goes to. um you know we can physically bring these things around to uh hotels and rentals and businesses as we're kind of talking about in the next point. Um but as all you know as you have uh ran election campaigns uh sending something out to every resident in the city of Moab is well within the $10,000 budget and we're considering looking at that as well. Having something come in the mailbox and having it like kind of be official from the city and letting them know that we're doing that. Um yeah, like I said, we're going to be talking to businesses. I'm already going to be talking to different hotels about um I'm just going to refresh our map outreach and talk to all the stops and hotels. So, I'll already be out there and combining that together with some water conservation talk I think can go a really long way. And just to kind of hit on what you had been hearing uh mayor is that uh you know talking to restaurants about how they're using their water, how talking to hotels about how they're how often they're changing their linens and stuff like that. Um and that's something that I actually heard from the community myself. I was at a plant sale this weekend. Someone came up to me and was like, well, you know, it can't just be individual. We're going to make sure that we're listening to the community and making sure that everybody's in on this. That's a lot of our messaging doing that. We're doing it all together. So, you know, we're going to be doing it. Individuals are going to be doing it. Businesses are going to be doing it. You can kind of look down uh moving into this summer messaging. We're definitely going to be working with the city to provide feedback on how we're doing that type of stuff because, you know, you'll hear complaints about seeing leaky sprinklers and stuff like that. making

27:34 – 29:320

sure when we're moving into the broader summer season that we're paying attention to that type of stuff because we don't want hypocrisy when we're doing this type of stuff. Um and then um I really like the ideas that Lisa came up here with uh for the pledge to reduce outdoor watering um this offering recognition stuff. There's a really cool thing that uh Jackson, Wyoming was doing where they were doing a um trout friendly lawn and you got this little sign in your lawn and it was just this little trout that kind of like kind of signified in the community that like hey I'm doing this, I'm part of this and considering either be it like I mean this it's kind of out there with these signs but maybe just social shout outs, little certificates you can get to offer recognition for this stuff and have it in a public space where it's kind of this like social compact where like oh my neighbor's doing that so maybe I'll do that too. um is an idea that we were thinking about. Again, social media, we're going one to three per week. Um workshops, either us hosting them or there's tons of workshops on this type of stuff and using social media to kind of channel people towards that stuff, continuing that business outreach as um the feedback that the mayor had received, making sure that we're paying attention to the community's needs and what they are talking about. And then um yeah through September toward the end we'll um have some results from this. This will also be done in accordance with our water conservation plan. So we will be concordantly working on what we are going to do to conserve water on a broader basis. Um and that can really tie into what our results were, what our feedback from the community was. And um yeah, on the next slide you can kind of see that some of this stuff is already coming together. Um, Lisa put together this press release and um, you know, both the papers are talking about it. Lisa put up this uh, really great uh, social media post in the top left here on Friday. Um, and we're just going to be continuing this beat. Um, there's an example of one of those webinars on

29:28 – 29:560

there as well and happy to answer any questions you all may have. Questions? Is it when people get their water bills? Um, doesn't it show on there like what they paid or what the meter was last year compared to this year or does it you guys know? I don't not sure. I was just I was just going to say I would really like to know how to read my water bill because I I don't know.

29:55 – 30:350

I don't know if that's like a possibility or something, but it sometimes it's hard to like am I doing better or worse than I am last year? you know, if there's something, you know, I think it'd be great if there was like some sort of each house had its own like um portal that you could look at and see, you know, like, you know, what your water usage was online or something. That's probably not realistic. Um, but even if you got the water meter bill, is there something on there that says like, you know, you used this much water last year, use this much this year, you know, and put a smiley face next to it or, you know, something like that because I think a lot of times people just don't know if they're doing good or doing bad, you know, and stuff. So, or where where they're at within the scale. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do we do a tiered approach?

30:31 – 31:090

We do. That will also be something that we consider more uh when the the rate study comes up. So, right now it's a gentle slope. Um and it could be steeper than it is. So, we do, but we can we probably will evaluate whether we want to do it differently. Yeah. And that that is coming up in that water master plan that we talked about the rate study. And then um we will check with Marcy, get a copy of water bill and see if there's anything that we can do to make that

31:06 – 31:510

right. And I went to a water policy workshop and they that's what they said is you have three tiers. You know, the one tier is just normal users and then when you get to the third tier, it's a huge spike, you know, if you're watering over a certain amount. And that tends to be a huge deterrent because like you said, people don't really know, you know, and so I I just wasn't sure if we do have that tiered approach and how steep it is. I I think you're going to find a recommendation from us that we increase the grade right on that slope. Uh but we need we need to get to that master plan and everything, but that's that's one of the tools that we have in our toolbox that the council can use.

31:46 – 32:460

Go ahead, Miles. Uh, I so love the now I now want a trout friendly lawn sticker to stick in my yard. Um, I think that that kind of like bledge or otherwise sounds great. I think if we make the tier for water payments steeper, one thing that I would consider is building some kind of plan for forgiveness if you have a leak and you're low income. um and making it really obvious on your bill if the city thinks you have a leak because that could become massively expensive for somebody without them being aware of it. So like that first month that you have an you know an exorbitant water bill if you you know meet low income requirements maybe you're get forgiven some of that as long as you address the leak and if you don't address it then it's kind of on you but that's my only concern in that regards because I've seen people uh with crazy water bills because they had a leak that never showed above ground

32:43 – 33:080

yeah and I and I I can't I agree 100% with that what you're saying but I wish there was a way and I I guess going back to just like the technology you know and stuff is you know because you know you may not know you have a water leak for 30 days you know until you get that second build don't don't we already have a mechanism in place where we yeah

33:05 – 33:390

yeah if it's if it's something that was not the fault and was unknown to the customer we have a process that they can go through where we can we can give some relief on that um and yeah we Hope everybody's looking at their their bill every month. Uh because you would find out really quickly or not really quickly. It take a second to see the spike to know that something's wrong. Um so and I think we actually proact when when I think we do. Yeah, we do see

33:36 – 34:080

we don't get very many of these. Um but we have had them and it's I mean we're dealing with water lines that are underground. There's all kinds of things that can happen to them. And we own a lot of these. That's one of our responsibilities, too. And something we're going to hear from the golf course coming up in a couple weeks is something they want to to prevent as well because there's a there's a lot of waste that that comes from broken lines and and usually it's not the day of that you find out. So, something we're working on.

34:06 – 34:480

I think we're doing a pretty good job. I will say for any member of the public that is interested, there are home monitoring systems that are fairly inexpensive that you could install in your home that would use smart technology to determine if you're outside of your average water usage and alert you via like literally text message. Um, so for anyone in the public who's particularly concerned about that, that's out there. Yes, maybe we should include that in some of our outreach stuff, you know, to so if you if you want to as a a resident, as an individual monitor your own water, here's an opport, you know, a way that you could do that. It's also great if you're out of town for a couple months out of the year otherwise that it keeps an eye on things and uh

34:46 – 34:570

can even shut off the water for you if it thinks you have a leak. Any other questions on this outreach? Yes,

34:53 – 35:360

I do. I have a another broad educational I' I've seen a lot of comments on Facebook about how the golf course is using half of the water in the city and you need to go after hotels and um businesses and we shouldn't be going after residents and so I think OB has provided that information to us as recent strategic planning but providing more information about how much water is actually residential use and specifically like outdoor like all of these things that we're encouraging prevention on to to even give people that information of like actually this is a community conversation, community issue. It is an individual thing to evaluate.

35:34 – 36:110

Yeah. Balancing what I was saying earlier with like making sure that we're making sure businesses are doing things but also I like providing concrete percentages to folks to like and that Facebook echo if you will. Yeah. And we will be updating those because I think the numbers right now are something like about 60% of our water is towards some kind of landscape and 16% is to like more of a tourism like hotel purpose. Um however when we update the water conservation plan that is where the numbers come from. Uh we'll also be able to update those numbers.

36:10 – 36:330

Yep. It's something we'll actively be looking into. Uh like I said before, uh that draft is due July 15th and we're planning on having a workshop with you all on June 23rd, so it'll be fairly timely and we'll have brand new numbers to tell Facebook all about. Okay, any other questions?

36:29 – 37:170

Um I just have one and so maybe Levi can help with this. What is the city actually going to do for our water conservation? Well, they're already watering at night. And Levi, yeah, come on and join. And then we also have already installed smart sprinkler systems that are water uh weather responing our city parks. We've installed um smart smart monitors, smart technology to um we can by our we can operate them by our phones. And so we're adjusting the times. We're already we've already taken steps to um hold to say um

37:15 – 37:340

to conserve. Yeah. Watering the parts. Um the times the time of day um and adjusting the sprinklers. There's we've eliminated some sprinklers because it was just overwatering. Um and that that's that's the first step. We have we have more work more to work on.

37:32 – 38:170

Yeah. Our staff is actively looking for leaks as well. and when we hear about a leak, we're fixing them right away. If anyone sees a sprinkler that's shooting straight up in the air, let us know. We'll get right on it. Um the golf course was brought up. One of the things that we've done recently is we're uh we've got a new lease with the golf course that will be on the agenda in two weeks. And uh the golf course is prohibited from using uh water from our system during certain months out of the year. Um they have that's that's one of the conservation measures that we're doing. And then we'll also be working with them, not our golf course, our property, but they're leasing it, working with them and helping them install smart monitors and also do a lot of things that Levi was just talking about.

38:15 – 38:420

Great. Thanks. I think Val's point, you know, we got to set the example. So, I knew you guys were doing something, but I thought it'd be great for the public to know what it was. We can make some cool reels with it, too. Good. That's great. Okay. Anything else for Levi while he's up here? All right, you guys. Thank you. Thank you.

38:38 – 39:290

All right, moving on to consent agenda. We have four items. Public works week proclamation, which I'm going to read. Ratification of a letter of support for the water tank and transit study. This is for Congress and we understand that uh Curtis has included this in the appropriations request for for this year. Um ratification of a letter to Grant County regarding the steam reszone. If you remember, we talked about this last week and so you uh the letter was sent before the commission meeting and it sounds like that that reszone u consideration with the county has been pulled and then consideration and acceptance of fiscal year 2026 third quarter finance report. Um do you have anything you want to mention about that?

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I can just say a couple words really quick if you'd like.

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So the the third quarter looks looks good. Uh we're still strong. We're reporting revenues at 65% and expenses at 50 cents 50%. But um so the important part is the revenues are higher than the expenditures. A lot of transfers have not taken place yet. Those transfers will increase the revenues and increase expenditures. But uh independently revenues and expenditures are are doing really well. Revenues are higher than expenditures. When we're just talking about the um taxes though, the taxes we collect and a lot of these most of these are tourism related. We are tracking ahead of of usual at this time of year at about 81% and that remember is just at the end of March and we're still seeing we're going to see Mar um taxes coming in for the rest of the the fiscal year as well. So, we're at about 81%. So, looking good. You know, nobody can tell the future, but uh it seems like it's been really busy in town. And if that's any indication, which it usually is, uh we're looking forward to some some strong uh uh revenues going forward.

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Any questions on the financials? All right. I'm going to go ahead now and read the uh proclamation for National Public Works Week. And I just like to say, you know, our public works department is probably the strongest face of our community, aside from the police department, but usually, well, I don't even want to say that, but these guys are out there working really hard all the time, and they talk to a lot of people in our community, and they do a lot of they do everything in support and service to our community. So, public works week is a very important week. It's May 17th through the 23rd and it's rooted in service powered by community and that kind of says it all. Whereas public works professionals focus on infrastructure, facility and services that are are of vital importance to sustainable and resilient communities and to public health, high quality of life and well-being of the people of Moab, Utah. And whereas these infrastructure facilities and services could not be provided without the dedicated efforts of public work professionals who are engineers, managers and employees at all level of government and the private sector who are responsible for rebuilding, improving and protecting our nation's transportation, water supply, water treatment and solid waste systems, public buildings and other structures and facilities essential for our citizens. And whereas it is in the interests public interest for the citizens, civic leaders and children in Moab to gain knowledge of and maintain an ongoing interest understanding of the importance of public works and public works programs in their respective communities. Whereas the year 2026 marks the 66th annual National Public's Work Week sponsored by the American Public Works Association. Be it now resolved. I, Joet Langanesees, mayor, do hereby designate the week of May 17th uh through the 23rd, 2026 as the National Public Works Weeks Week. I urge all citizens to join with representatives of

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the American Public Works Association and government agencies and activities, events, and ceremonies designed to pay tribute to our public work professionals, engineers, managers, employees, and to recognize the substantial contributions they make to protecting our national health, safety, and advancing quality of life for all. In witness whereof I have here unto set my hand and caused the seal of the state done at Moab on this day 2026. Is there a seal? Okay. Anyway, thanks Levi and your team and Obie for all the work that you do for our community. Really appreciate it.

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Bet. Okay. Um I will ask for a motion to approve items 4.1 through 4.4 the consent agenda. Where are they? Minutes. Those

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Oh, I'm sorry. I do. That's the approval of the minutes. I Sorry, forgot. I looked at this page and for some reason I thought they were something else. Then we've got public works proclamation ratify of two letters of support or one letter of support and one letter to Grant County consideration acceptance of fiscal year three third quarter finance report approval of the minutes for a April 14th regular meeting and April 17th special joint city and county meeting and approval of the bills against the city of Moab in the amount of $47 $47,22.14. 13 cents.

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I'll have a motion to uh approve the consent agenda. All right. Do I have a second? Motion by Caitlyn, second by Colin. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I.

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All those opposed? Motion passes 5-0. Okay, moving on. Um consideration. Our first item of business, consideration of ordinance 2026-09, an ordinance of city of Moab enacting chapter 9.44 of the Moab Municipal Code Community Clean Energy Program. Alexi, sorry, it was going to take me a second. My computer decided to um have problems this evening. Okay, I've been kicked out of Zoom twice and I'm starting to lose my screen. Uh, okay. Okay. So, after years in the making, uh, the community clean energy program is finally ready for your consideration. Uh, this has been going on since 2019, but we'll get into that. Uh, I'm going to go through a recap of where this has been. Um, then talk a little bit about what it means as far as cost to customers, the lowinccome accommodations, an opt- out option, and the timeline after the program. because up until this point we've been building up to this this uh decision point of whether or not uh the city decides to participate. Uh and then I will be happy to answer any questions. I do want to note that you may have seen this referred to different in different ways over the years. There was a community renewable energy agency Korea for a little while. There was also Utah renewable communities and now there's a community clean energy program. Some of

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this is legislative changes changing from renewable to clean and then also Utah renewable communities is an informal name for this. Uh and then community clean energy program is an official name of what this program would be called after this. Okay. Uh why are we looking at Utah renewable communities? A lot of this is because we volunteered for this uh with a resolution in 2017. We established a renewable energy goal and a reduction goal for emissions at 80% by 2040. Uh that was updated in 2019 for an accelerated goal for 100% renewable electricity. Uh which qualified us for this program. From there in 2021, we approved an interlocal agreement for URC. Uh sustainability and environmental sustainability was a pillar in our MOP tomorrow together vision and strategic action plan. It's in our general plan and also it's in our sustainability plan. So a lot of it's just because it aligns with our adopted goals. Uh there are other reasons too like spreading high-cost infrastructure over more customers makes it more accessible, less expensive for people to get into having renewable electricity on their bills. Uh in this case, Moab's a pretty small place, but there are a lot of other communities that are members of this. So it's making it more accessible for residents here. It also gives people a choice. there is an option for people to just opt out and not participate, but this is something that people would not have access to otherwise. So, it gives people an additional choice if they're looking for renewable energy uh sources. This makes it more accessible and it's the only way this particular option would be accessible to residents and businesses in Moab.

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Uh it's an investment in clean energy. It's good for the health and environment and also Utah is looking for more electricity. Uh the governor has formally said that this is something that we are going to need for the future and part of the Utah renewable communities or the clean energy program is that it will bring more electricity onto the grid. So who are or what are the Utah renewable communities? It's 19 towns and cities, counties, uh, which use about 20% of Utah's electrical load. That's a substantial amount of electricity. It was enabled, like I said, in 2019 by HB4, uh, 411. And then, uh, the goal is to drive the production of clean energy while keeping the program affordable and accessible and to build resources to match that electricity. uh so that the amount of electricity used by the people in the program is the amount that the program is generating. Uh it might take us a little while to get there because this is going to be new electricity if uh for the cities that are participating. Uh but that is the big goal. So those new resources would go on the grid. Rocky Mountain Power, the current utility provider would be picking up the electricity from those and not the specific electron, but essentially that electricity would be used for the load in the participating communities. So far, uh, four communities have already adopted the ordinance and are officially participants and moving forward with this uh, option for their residents. That includes Summit County, Salt Lake City, Immigration Canyon, and Springdale. This week, Moab is considering it, Park City is considering it in Mil Creek, and then a number of other communities are considering it in May. We have until June 2nd to make a decision. Okay, this is essentially explaining uh

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how this would work as in we know how much consumption or we will know once communities decide whether or not they're participating how much consumption from there that tells us how much would need to be generated by the program. Some renewable electricity is already on the Rocky Mountain power grid that would be kept as an existing source for these communities. And from there the idea would be to close the gap uh on conventional resources. So over time this would phase in. This is the timeline. I won't go through everything we've done to get here. I've talked about it a little bit. But along the way, uh the final step that made this possible was the public service commission approved a program that was developed by Moab and the other participating communities. Uh once that was approved, it made this option available to all the communities that were participating to decide whether to adopt the program through this ordinance. Participation uh as outlined by the program that was approved by the public service commission says that people will remain Rocky Mountain customers. They will be automatically enrolled in the program with an option to opt out. that would be free for six billing cycles. Uh and then after that, people could still opt out at any time, but there would be a termination fee of $30. Uh non-residential involves a lot of different kinds of schedules. So those vary by the schedules people are on. Uh people would receive two notices. The first one would be via mail, like posted in their mailbox, and then the second one would be however they usually get their utility bill. So, if you usually get your utility bill by email, your second notice would be by email. Uh, and then there are also some low income customer provisions, which I'll go more

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in depth into, but it the bottom line is that their termination fees would be waved and also if they're participating in qualifying programs, their additional costs per month would be zero. Here is what it would look like for most participants. So if an eligible residential customer, so this would be most people on their home bills, they would have a $3.88 charge in a month. That would be a program participation fee that would go to uh developing new resources that are renewable for people who are participating and also to administering and developing those resources. So whatever cost it takes to um develop those. Um, and then there would be a 12 cent sir charge that would fund the lowinccome program for a total of $4 a month. A lowincome residential customer would see the 388 program participation fee and then there would be a bill credit that would offset that. So the total cost would be zero. There are a few exceptions. Uh almost everybody would be opted into this and you would have to opt out. There are some customers who are on schedule 135 which was uh for solar net metering I believe. um at the very beginning, those people would not be opted in. They're not compatible. So, if for most of them, they will probably choose to stay on schedule 135, but it would be possible if for some reason they wanted to come off of it, they could then participate in the program. But, um that that's among the very few exceptions. People would be able to access the low-inccome credit uh by either being a participant in the HEAT program or the help program. If they are already participants in those programs, this would automatically apply to them. If they are not, then they could if they qualified, they could join one of those programs and that's how they would see

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the bill credit. There's also a number of uh special provisions within the legislation for how people should be notified of this. In addition to those two notifications, we have a low-inccome outreach plan where we contact a lot of different community organizations, provide them with information, offer them an inerson meeting, posters, different ways to try to reach people so they'll know that this program is coming and know how to access the credit if they want it. For non-residential customers, like I said, people are on a lot of different schedules. So, I set this up for what it would look like for a couple of the city buildings on a commercial rate. Uh, the city center, which is a smallish office building that used to be a school, um, it would be about $6.28 more per month. For the IMRACT, which has a pool and a gym and uses a lot more electricity, it would be closer to $156 per month. That is about a 5% increase on the bills for non-residential customers, but it it just depends on their use as to how much that dollar amount would be. Long-term program rates are not expected to increase. In fact, the public service commission specifically said that there's no evidence in the record to say that they would increase and said it's more likely that they would decrease over time. Part of this is because the first couple years there has to be a fund built up in case the program for some reason ended so Rocky Mountain Power doesn't lose money. They also have to build up a fund so they can build these renewable resources. And then after time some of those startup costs would no longer be a factor and it would be more a factor of how much does the electricity cost. And at this point renewables are often less expensive than new uh fossil fuel resources. So what comes next? Uh today uh we can

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consider this or table it for future if um the council prefers. Um from there uh until June 2nd, Moab and other communities have the opportunity to decide whether to adopt the program. Once that happens, uh communities that are participating will begin low-income outreach. and they have from the ordinance adoption and actually before that but it doesn't make sense to do it until we know if we're participating uh to do this one year of uh outreach to different groups uh to make sure people know that this is happening. Um that will preede the actual start of the program um which is expected to finally show up on people's bills closer to the beginning of 2027. uh from the beginning of noticing which was all which will also start before people are build. There will be two billing cycles where customers will receive their notification that this is happening. That will be in addition to any other outreach that we will do. And there will be those two months of fee free opt out before anything appears on the bill. And there will be four more months of the option to opt out without a charge. Uh, one of the things I anticipate being a big issue is, uh, just the communication that this is coming. Uh, even from now, it's several months before this would appear on anyone's bills. The good news is that we do have good partners in this. Uh, so far as a participant or a member of the board of the Utah Renewable Communities, uh, we are also a member of the communication committee. uh on the board. We've had a lot of assistance and help with putting together social media posts, press releases, and getting coverage about this to try to make it more public so more people can get access to the information. Uh okay, so we talked a little bit about

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what this means uh for the city. It means doing some outreach uh that everybody would be opted into the program, residential, non-residential, with only a few exceptions. As a city, uh there are a few things that we have already been responsible for. Contributing funds to pay consultants. Uh we were also an anchor committee, uh aker community member of the Utah renewable communities board. Those things were already done. Entering into a utility agreement that was already approved by city council. Uh from here, the next thing that and the only thing that we are officially responsible for is reimbursing Rocky Mountain Power for the cost of the noticing to the customers. from there uh customers would be paying into the program and the program would become self-supporting. The decision this evening uh is whether to adopt or not adopt the program. If we did adopt, then this would be something that would continue moving and eventually residential customers would see a $4 charge on their bill. But there's a lot of stuff that would happen between now and then. If we chose not to adopt it, then we would leave the Utah Renewable Communities Board and people would continue to receive the reliable service that they're getting from Rocky Mountain Power. Are there any questions?

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Questions or Lexi? So many. Um, so I I do have a couple questions. First of all, so the $4 um where does the $4 go to?

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It goes to Rocky Mountain Power. Uh however, what the Utah Renewable Communities Program has already done is they put out an RFP for new proposals uh for projects. I believe they got something like 16 responses and then they shortlisted to four. They're in conversations about projects to build. So, uh Rocky Mountain Power is our partner in this, but it basically Rocky Mountain Power would be collecting this, but it would be going towards these new renewable energy projects and the administration of them. Okay. Is there anything like down the road where um Rocky Mountain Power customers because it's almost like we're buying stock in futures of you know of the grid you know or or whatever these things are going to um once these things start producing power and stuff. Do is there any discussion that that will then come back to these communities at a different rate or lower rate since we invested into those commun into those you know um

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right renewable energy infrastructure that make sense what I'm saying

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yeah I think for the new projects a lot of this will be costbased since it is chosen by the communities that are participating and we all have uh limits on to what we would let be charged to our residents there's some limits is that like if it would get higher. I so don't anticipate that. But there were discussions through the public service commission application about whether it would be allowed to go lower because like you said things can change and in this case it is I think possible that things could change and it could become lower. Uh there will be annual changes to the rates like there are to kind of all electricity rates. So on an up to I think it's limited at annual basis. There could be adjustments to the rates.

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Would would Rocky Mountain Power um like do like a yearly annual report, you know, maybe like where you know where these funds have gone, you know, what projects they've been doing, you know, so that because I think that'd be important to let people know kind of like, oh, this is what we've been able to do with that email and stuff and or they've met certain, you know, criteria. Yeah. I don't know if Rocky Mountain Power will, but the Utah Renewable Communities Board will continue to exist and is going to continue to work on procurement for building these new projects. So, I think we will have access to that information as a member of the board if we approved it. Okay.

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No, and I and I kind of say I I absolutely support this, you know, and I think that it's it's important to support it. Um, just, you know, like yesterday with my other job, I I got to listen to the governor speak about the Gigawatt project, you know, and stuff. Yeah. And um and it was really interesting listening to him about how um invested Utah um has become in this, you know, and that we have to, you know, going after like solar energy or wind power and stuff um is not like um or nuclear energy for that matter, whatever it is. Um we're not like, you know, sliding these other industries. we're just having more energy arrows in our quiver, you know, and I and I think that as we go through the future that this is really going to make us more energy um independent, you know, um for our residents, you know, as as things start coming up. So, um so I think it's really important that if people in the community are like four bucks is too much and maybe it is or I don't want to buy $4 to go to, you know, a solar farm someplace that they can pull out. There's always that option they can pull out. However, as residents, you know, we're kind of helping to um to secure our future in, you know, in this sector and and in this energy need and stuff. So, I think it's really important for Moab residents um to to understand that and um and understand that, you know, we are working towards a more independent energy future with this.

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So, who else questions?

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I have a few. Um, yeah. I So, it's kind of I think Miles Miles has been the rep on this, but having been the rep the last couple of years, um, it's really exciting. I I do want to give Kayn and the previous council big kudos for signing on to this. Being an acre community, I know that this has been a big thing for Kayn, so I appreciate him coming and speaking to us earlier today. um kind of echoing what you said, I think, um energy independence and kind of diversity of energy sources, especially given kind of all of the recent things about MoB city and our involvement with energy uh development in this area. I think um more and more types are better. And so I'm I'm really excited. Um, I do have to say I think it's shameful for Berkshire Hathway to put this burden on people rather than them as a corporation um in building out these projects that they have money to do. But outside of that and outside of kind of corporate, national, international um things, I think that it's it's really amazing that Utah has kind of led with um you know, Operation Gigawatt and with this um through the years has been really forward thinking on how to work through um energy systems for our communities. So um so yeah, I'm I'm interested and excited to see how it goes. Um and I think I did have a question. Uh one of my questions was do have you heard any updates about of what the projects are that are being evaluated in the RFP process? Uh I don't have a lot of updates on that. What they provided to us even as a board was uh blacked out so we wouldn't know the actual biders. Uh so they provided us essentially with information on like the

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the pricing for them. Uh but we didn't get a lot of information what the actual projects are yet. I think that has to do with uh like the I guess the businesses that are involved in the projects and commercial viability for them. Uh so not yet. Uh but since we are down to a short list, uh my and I anticipate that we'll know pretty soon what the like final options are.

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Anybody else? Miles, do you want to add? Yeah, I'd love to speak in support of this and uh frankly echo a lot of what Caitlyn and Jason said. I have in my short time uh being part of this and and um kind of following this process. Um I'm really looking forward to what it can bring to our community and our state as a whole. Um, I think as Jason pointed out, it's not about sliding or walking away from uh, you know, more conventional energy creation, but it's about diversifying where we're getting our energy from. And in a big way, like I think a lot of us can support it. And I really like the way that this is all structured because it it does allow for lowincome folks to be be a part of the program without feeling the burden. And I mean, the $4 a month feels like a pretty reasonable burden for a lot of our residents. Um, I was happy when I saw that figure and they kind of settled on what this would be that it was not a significant addition to our our utility bills. Um, and then of course the option to opt out if you do not agree with it or if you just, you know, if the $4 really matters. Um, but yeah, I'm looking forward to having this and and being being a community that leads the charge in our energy diversity and independence.

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Anybody else? Um, I think it is really important to support this. Um, this has been part of our goals. When I say our, I mean the city for the better part of a decade. um and it it was part of our um tomorrow together project and and our community supported it. Um I think it would be foolish to have invested this much time, this much energy and outreach to pull a plug on the last minute. And that was a terrible pun, but I think it's really important to support this.

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I'll just say thanks for your work on this, Alexi, and I I agree and I think this program uh is is an improvement on, you know, some of the existing and and possibly suns setting programs like the blue sky program. Um, you know, I always worry about stuff like this where uh, you know, where we we're we're taking the lead and and really um, sort of pushing the development of of cleaner energy sources, you know, and I worry while at the same time, you know, some of the existing uh, not so clean energy sources are being taken up by by some new development like data centers and other things. But I really think to, you know, to to really talk or sorry, walk the walk as a community, uh, investing in this is is absolutely the the right thing to do. And, um, you know, I think the the the the big savings in the end, um, or the big win is is just cleaner air and water. So,

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thank you. Sure. One more. Um, just tying this to the the low-inccome plan with the residential utility assistance program. I guess kind of flagging that as we're we're looking at that one hand feeding the one hand holding the other on on outreach for that. Yeah, definitely. Any other questions for Lexi? I motion. I will happily move. Uh, I move to approve Moab City Council Ordinance 2026-09, an ordinance of the city of Moab enacting chapter 9.44 of the Moab Municipal Code Community Clean Energy Program. Motion by Miles. Second.

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I'll second. Second by Tony. Any further discussion? Miles? No. Thank you to everyone that set us on this path. Thank you to all the staff that did the hard work to put this together. Um, I'm looking forward to this. Ronnie, no. Anybody else? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes 5. All right, Lexi. Thanks. Thanks.

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Uh, item 5.2, consideration of an ordinance 2026-10 imposing a temporary ban on the discharge of fireworks within designated areas of Moab and establishing chapter 8.14.010 of the Moab Municipal Code. And I believe the fire department's here. We'd love to have you guys. TJ Chief, if you don't mind coming up. So, we got the fire chief here. So, if you have any questions for him, it's great to see you. And Michael will get going.

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Okay. So, every year we need to take a look at our fire restrictions based on the current information, the current situation on the ground. And we work with the fire department to do that. Um, see, there we go. So, it's called a temporary BR ban on the discharge of fireworks because we need to look at it every year and we do have the authority from the state to do this. It's well established that working with the fire department that communities can do this and if they don't then the state fire marshall to my understanding will just designate certain areas as high risk. Um so it's this is a great way for us to have a hand in what is what is uh being restricted within our community and this is specific to fireworks. Again um the restrictions are based on the hazardous conditions that exist this year and we were as I said we did work with Mo Valley Fire Department to institute these. The fire the restriction ordinance is meant to protect health, public safety, structures, people. Um that's the reason why we're putting this in and property. So the fire danger, the current find fire danger in 2026, as we all know, there's dry conditions. We have a lot of wildlander urban interface and creek corridors where we can see. Um, urban interface would be, you know, having a house right next to one of these properties. And if the fire spread to one of these interface properties, it could travel up and down the creek and move into other neighborhoods a lot quicker than uh we anybody wants it to. Um, so we have highlighted areas where fireworks will be completely prohibited. Uh we did amend the language on the map to make sure that that was 100% clear and the group all agreed that that was

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the right language, but it is an outright ban in these areas. This is the official map that I'm showing you here today and the official map has been um submitted as part of the ordinance. The uh high-risk areas include, like I said, the creek corridors and any areas where there is any interface with natural areas where there might be a lot of fire fuels. The city of Moab only allows legal fireworks in the areas outside of these restricted areas. Um legal fireworks are defined. uh they're generally the ones that you can buy from somebody who's selling that at a stand in Utah, not Colorado or Idaho or wherever else you might get them, but in Utah. So, this is the map that we're proposing. There's an ordinance that goes with this. It's really straightforward. It is an outright ban in these areas. We're recommending approval of it, and I asked Chief Rer to be here tonight so he could give some comments as well.

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Yeah, I I strongly support this ordinance. uh we've discussed it and legislatively we looked at you know is it a citywide ban and I don't think legislatively we could have done that. So we looked at some historical fires we looked at the code and the hazard hazardous environmental uh conditions echoing what city manager Black said is it's a extremely dry year and historically you guys have all known about the fires that we've had in the creek beds. You guys are lucky to have a really really good fire department um with here

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with some great men and women fighting fires for you. The problem is is when we get into these creek beds, it's hard for us to access them. They become major fires and the draw down is significant. So during the Fourth of July weekend, we stage fire engines up and down the creek corridor. Um but a lot of times we can't catch them quickly. Um and it it really dries down your resources. So, keeping these fires out of the creek beds would be really advantageous to the whole city. And one more thing, uh, our police department also has a copy of this map and they will be enforcing this map that vi there is a violation section in here and it is a serious offense to light out fireworks in these prohibited areas.

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Any questions? Oh, go. Okay. I was just going to ask like some of these areas where um the Moab city kind of overlaps or ends like on like Pack Creek with you know with the county um are there fire restrictions in those areas? You know because like like on the map it shows like Pat Creek you know there's like a gap you know um between the city limit signs. Um I would assume that that inside that gap is also a fire ban within the county or is that the county hasn't done a fire ban yet? Um I I would like to work closely with the county to do the same thing. Okay. But that is probably on the agenda then to to work them on that then. Um

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I would hope so. Yeah. No, I guess Yeah. So, um, my big frustration is I, um, I wish it could be broader, you know, especially when I when, um, you know, when I know like you guys, you know, on like Fourth of July night, you know, you you hear fireworks and fire engines, you know, and just you guys are going 12 different directions, you know, putting things out, and it's um, it seems like you guys are just, I don't know, chasing something that could just be a catastrophe, you know, and you guys are awesome. you guys. I think I appreciate that.

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I think this is a step in the right direction and we discussed this that you know if we did a citywide ban which again legislatively I don't think we could unless we could prove the you know the hazardous environmental conditions throughout the city. Um I think it's a step in the right direction and I think you're going to have people light fireworks off no matter what you do. So we want to make criminals out of people that are lighting them off on the the black top or sidewalks. So, uh, I hear what you're saying. If you notice today, the cotton's flying really bad, so that'll keep me up tonight. Anybody else? I just want to make

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Go ahead. a comment on um there's a I lived down at the end of Bartlett and there was a fire about 15 years ago and our whole neighborhood almost burned down and it wasn't on Fourth of July, it was like the first part of July and your dad was the fire chief at the time and I'll never forget him pulling up into the back of my my house on city property and just shaking his head going and the fire was like it was a windy day, 50 mph winds and he was just he didn't he beside himself and I can't I can't tell you what he said. Yeah. To me, but he he was really really worried. I heard him on the radio

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and that and that fire blew up and luckily the wind shifted and it went away from our neighborhood to another neighborhood. The whole fire department, they left their truck there and they all left because they were in danger and they told us to evacuate and and we didn't. We we got everything ready to go. I know. We had we got we got our bikes and our golf clubs and the animals But um but anyway, I just so much appreciate what you guys do and you know, we've had four fires recently, two up on the mountain, two in town, all human caused and so it's a tough job and really appreciate it. And I wish I was at some fire um at a conference in St. George with the League of Towns and I went to a fire workshop and what surprised me, we had over,00 wildfires in Utah last year. 60% of them were human-caused.

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Yeah. And I don't know what I don't know what we can do to get educate people uh especially this year on just being careful when you're out there. And I think this is a step in that right direction. But definitely is. Yeah. I wish there was more we could do. The state doesn't really offer a whole lot of money to help with that type of education, which was a little surprising. It's all about educating us and how what we can do around our own homes, but how we educate the general public and how they can pres prevent it in the first place. So anyway, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the support. Uh Utah Fire Info is a great place. They do a lot of PR stuff there and I think with the CWDG project and a few of those other projects, we're making our community a lot safer for these big events,

1:18:57 – 1:19:410

right? So, thank you. Thank you. I I live in that neighborhood, too. And you took your golf clubs and your bikes. We took our dogs and cat. I I They were ready. We were ready. We didn't have to leave. And yeah, we we did evacuate. And it was it was a few intense hours before we could go home. That was a big fire. It was a big fire. And it was not caused by children. It was caused by adults and bottle rockets. And well, they were children. They were young kids. I saw them. I'm not giving them breaks. Anyway, they're acting. I just want to know what the benefit is if they were camping. They're caught lighting fireworks in these areas. What's up to a class B with this code? So, yeah, fingers off.

1:19:39 – 1:20:220

And we will share this uh through social media. We'll get the maps out through all of our channels. Make sure people are aware of this and we'll be diligent. Okay. Anything else? I'll ask for a motion. I move to approve ordinance uh 2026-10 imposing a temporary ban on the discharge of fireworks within designated areas of the city of Moab. Motion by Colin. Second. I'll second. Second by Miles. Any further discussion, Colin? None. Miles. Nope. Thanks for all you do. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Anybody else? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. 5. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good evening.

1:20:20 – 1:20:340

Thanks, Chief. Thanks, Chief. All right, our last item of business is item 5.3, consideration of speed limits in certain routes in the city of Moab. And Lex and Levi are going to Are you going to introduce this or they

1:20:33 – 1:22:310

I'm going to actually say something after their presentation. They've they've got the presentation. It's good there. Good evening. Thank you for letting us be here and talk about speed limits. Um jump forward. This is more of a a discussion today and just to present some of the ideas and some of the things we've been working on together as a team. Uh we're going to propose some ideas uh and changes to speed limits and certain routes. Um the background is we've been reviewing city ordinances, case laws, uh legislation, best practices, safety, enforcability. And to give you a little bit more background, the private facial speed limit in Moab, as set by our own city ordinance, is 20 m per hour where there's not a speed sign. Uh there are only very few roads that are above 20 miles per hour and designated as such right now. and we're going to talk about some of those where we've identified um a need to consolidate and make a uh a uniform and enforceable speed limit so that we can we can enforce that against all street legal vehicles in those areas. So the main areas that we wanted to focus on Mil Creek uh specifically from 400 East up to Sa Sand Flats, Fifth West, 400 North, Can Creek, Can Creek, Fourth North, 100 West, Williams, Northeast, although uh that's going to go undergo some major uh redesign. So we're we'll discuss that and evaluate that afterwards. So, uh, some quick background, that's our city limits there. And these are the routes that are not currently 20 miles per hour. These have different speed limits. These are the ones we wanted to talk

1:22:28 – 1:23:390

about making some changes. Some of them are, I think, a little bit more of a no-brainer than others. And so, we wanted to kind of discuss that with you and some of our uh, thought process. 100 West is one of the ones I think is more or less a no-brainer. There are so many crosswalks, pedestrian traffic, businesses there. It's 25 currently. Uh we'd propose to move that to 20 miles per hour. Um additionally, 400 north, especially where it goes through school zones, everything else there as uh is currently 25. We would propose making that 20 as well. Um, Williams Way through that residential area is 25 still. Um, we also would propose that go to 20 miles per hour on Williams. Fifth West, same area from 400 North down to Can Creek and then Cane Creek itself as well. We we are uh recommending 20 miles per hour be considered there. And on Mil Creek Drive, uh, from fourth east specifically up to Sand Flats, we are also going to propose 20 miles per hour for that stretch for all street legal vehicles.

1:23:38 – 1:23:540

Chief, I think we were going to include Cane Creek out to the city limits to the west, right? I Yes, we were. Okay. I think it just didn't get added to the map, but Can Creek to the end of city limit.

1:23:51 – 1:24:380

That that is I mean in a nutshell what we are talking about. So, I'll give you the streets there. And again, this is us making some some suggestions and recommendations based on what we've looked at and what we think is uh appropriate. There are going to be some considerations. For instance, East mentioned there's there's ongoing planning and changes there. So, on these streets, we've identified there are 23 active speed limit signs on these streets. Um, if we do include four at these, there would be 30. uh we do have enough materials on hand to to make these changes. We will have to re replenish our our resource, but

1:24:37 – 1:25:570

questions. No, I was going to say like through like this whole process that's been going on the last few months, I I appreciate how much thought you guys have put into this and trying to, you know, figure out like these streets and I think reducing the speeds on some of these streets is going to be a huge improvement for safety, you know, in these areas. And so, um, yeah, like it blows me away that 100, you know, um, 100 West was 25. Like what? you gotta be kidding, you know, and um you know, so I think that yeah, I really um I I think this is a very logical and makes sense um what you guys come up with. And I would add to that what what really strikes me about this is uh you know I was very much involved in the the uh planning process for the the non-motorized transportation master plan and so many of these identified routes are are consistent with existing active transportation or proposed active transportation infrastructure. Um, and so I I love the idea of reducing automobile speeds and uh, you know, to to to complement those uh, existing infrastructure or uh, potentially developed infrastructure. So, thank you.

1:25:58 – 1:27:260

Yeah. Um, I want to echo a lot of that. I'm I think several of these streets identified, it makes absolute sense to reduce the speed limit. And uh it's it's funny because one of the first things I said when I moved to Moab was just how different a commute was in this town. You know, moving from a big city where I could my commute could be anywhere between 40 minutes and two hours based on traffic. It seems uh silly to be too stressed out. Like I plan on driving every single one of these routes at 25 and 20 miles an hour and figuring out just how many seconds it adds to reduce the speed. Um, but frankly like I I spent a lot of time driving around for my job and I've seen a lot of close calls on the road and every single one of these streets has it is a hot spot for that. And I would only add that you know as we discussed northeast and the change or otherwise I know that sometimes the way government works it takes a long time to proceed with like a full re you know redo project and move that forward and uh particularly the crosswalk um there at the intersection of Mil Creek Drive with uh Daves and Milts and Moss um that I've seen some like screech tires as kids, you know, run out into that into that crosswalk. And I would love to see right around that area be reduced as well in a in a more timely manner than waiting for the full redo.

1:27:25 – 1:27:550

Anybody else? Yeah, I I'm wondering, Levi, on the flashing signs, are we able to just reprogram those or do we have to replace those? Um, we can reprogram them. Okay, that's good to know. Yeah. Okay. So, are you looking for specific yes, no on this or what? What's I'm going to ask for a motion to approve the recommendation. Um, but we have to bring it back as an ordinance. So, we have to update the ordinance. Yeah. And I can explain that.

1:27:53 – 1:28:150

Well, you know, I you know, I was kind of thinking about that. That is a there is a consideration. Um, because we've got these recommendations and they're asking for direction. I would ask that you would move to approve the speed limits and then we'll come back the the recommendations and we'll come back with an ordinance. Yeah. Basically what I was going to say. So,

1:28:13 – 1:29:090

okay. I guess my specific comment looking at these, I think most of these make sense. I guess I'm curious about 500 West that like 500 West and 400 North, especially thinking about roadway design. Um, it doesn't feel congruent with 20 miles an hour, especially that section of 500 West. So, I'm I'm curious why that was specifically included. I I probably would propose pulling those. I think most of the others make sense and and I think even thinking about King Creek Boulevard that used to be 25 people used to drive that. I think with traffic calming I want to be thinking more about that and how to implement that on 500 West 400 North to actually encourage people to drive more slowly within those speed limits. Um but it feels too soon for those two particular streets.

1:29:070

So I can I can speak to 500 West for sure. What was the other street? I'm sorry. North Florida North. Flipping.

1:29:13 – 1:30:370

So, let's start with 500 West. I mean, the reality there is that traffic is a little bit different there than than the rest of 500 West. There's a lot of tourism related traffic in that area. It's an area that there we have several crosswalks. We do have people walking back and forth and there's a there's a lot of activity there. In fact, a lot of our we have a couple parks in that area and we also have um a lot of active transportation going on in that area. I would I agree with you on the design. I think we're a little bit ahead as far as the three E go that I talk about. Um this would be education and then we have enforcement, but the engineering is a little bit behind. I do think that it is appropriate in this situation because of the disproportionate traffic that is related to tourism um for this section to be at 20 miles an hour even though the street still feels like 25 or 30 mph street and fourth north. I would just say the same thing for that, but I would throw in the school into that and also a our biggest city park and uh a lot of other activities going on with a lot of pedestrians. So, that's that's our recommendation. Of course, uh we're happy to discuss and and uh take comment.

1:30:34 – 1:31:180

Yeah, I can speak a little bit to 500 West since I live over there. There's a lot of kids riding their bikes. They're crossing the streets, you know, they're I mean, now with the the BMX track back up and running, people are riding the kids are riding their bikes there all the time. There's a lot of concern about getting across 500 West in particularly to go to school. Um, so I agree with what Michael said. I think that's a it's if you're not there, you don't see it all the time. When you're there, it's a lot of kids on their bikes. There are there are a lot of kids and they're they're little kids, right? They're little kids on strider bikes and um they don't pay attention.

1:31:16 – 1:31:490

They No, they don't. And it it seems like a nice straight easy stretch, but um I I find myself having to slow down more and more and more on that section of 500 West. And um I mean there are on as far as 400 North goes the you mentioned the schools but there are numerous churches on 400 North. Um all the churches are on 400 it seems like.

1:31:48 – 1:32:180

Yeah. I mean certainly by the time you get to the Williams Way intersection on 500 um but that I mean we can even see it's it's mostly agg and creek and a significant hill. So I guess so I guess that that is even kind of my question like I think it makes sense between 500 or 400 and Williams. Um and I guess I can address that also. A lot of the tourism traffic that he's talking about uses that to access the back country.

1:32:16 – 1:32:510

Yeah. So we have, you know, so it's more than a lot. In fact, there's probably more tourism activity than there are people uh driving their cars because most of the kids are on bikes and that's a huge access point to get to the back country for those vehicles for sure. And I think most of them are not going to be driving 20. No, they go going up that hill. Yeah. Going down that hill. that if this is enacted that will be the speed limit for all vehicles,

1:32:49 – 1:33:340

right? I will say I do understand Caitlyn's point just for that small section of 500 um right there where there's a on either side like obviously the slowdown needs to occur at a reasonable amount before where the dirt jumps are because frankly where I've seen the most interaction and where I've you know seen the closest calls is right there. Um, and there's a lot of pedestrian traffic around the Grand Center and the and the hospital that's worthwhile. Um, but there is a stretch where you're just like driving in in front of a couple fields and like minimal driveways. So, if we were going to tweak and tailor, that'd be a consideration in my mind. Um, it's kind of awkward though, Miles. If you go 25

1:33:32 – 1:34:170

20 25 That's a fair point. I was going to bring that up. Is kind of important also. Well, it is. It is. Sorry. There there is a bike lane on that bridge as well. Yeah, that receive a lot of traffic. Well, the consistency is very important actually. I think the the going back and forth is just confusing. And I think for the police officers especially, not confusing for them, but when you're writing a ticket and someone can show a judge, it well, it goes back and forth within a block here, you know, or something like that. It it becomes, I think, a little bit harder to enforce as well. That's that's absolutely fair. and haven't you know my I mean we've seen Eric down there a lot with the speed gun because my understanding is there's been a lot of speeding on 500 West lately.

1:34:16 – 1:34:440

Yeah, we've had a lot of complaints in that area and then the four-way stop at fourth, North and Fifth West, right? We've been stepping up enforcement there and that's why it makes sense from that point forward you do come to a complete stop at a four-way stop and then speed limit changes right there. Well, I guess I'm curious why you didn't because there are a lot of homes that are frontages on and a lot of businesses that are direct access from on that northern part of 500. I

1:34:42 – 1:35:270

think it's just the type of traffic once you once you get to that point. Um our our interpretation is that the traffic well mine anyways is that the traffic is um north of 400 north is more residential. The traffic uh from 400 north south is heavily influenced by tourism related traffic. I think a lot of them are. Yeah. Well, I mean there's there's also no dedicated bike lane on that northern section of 500. So I don't obviously I am having a hard time with this specifically. Um there's no bike on that northern section once you get to that section fourway stop

1:35:27 – 1:36:090

fifth west on fifth but yeah there's like a shoulder but not like a designated right most people aren't riding I mean you know really they're riding their bikes because that goes right onto the highway I I I would agree with you I ride my bike down there a lot and you probably do too and it is like there is no bike lane and people are constantly parked next to the curb you and kind of drives the bike. And so you're constantly going like this, you know, and and it's um sometimes it's hard to be seen, you know, on bikes on that section of the road because it is fairly tight in there once people and almost all those cars are parked along that road.

1:36:06 – 1:36:440

So we are we now maybe talking about reducing that speed, too. Is that that other section there? And I'll just say every argument I made for reducing the speed except for I I do think there's a little bit more different tourism traffic in the two different areas, but all the other arguments I made for reducing the speed from Fort North to Cane Creek are the same arguments somebody else could use for reducing it from Fort North to the highway. So I I we're not definitely not going to resist if that is the direction council wants to go. Yeah, I like that. Any other questions?

1:36:44 – 1:37:280

No, I just I guess I'm throwing up want to suggest that as we So, a motion to approve or recommend date the recommendation and add five all the way 5 West the entire 5 West. I also want to throw a shameless plug. I just think about this the worst section street in town. I think from from Mil Creek to the bowling alley because it's so slow. What is that? Is that like 30 right there or something? It's 25. Oh my good. Is it 25? 25. So now we're going to drop down to 20. No, not in that section. Not

1:37:25 – 1:38:080

that was 25. It just goes to the creek to the bridge to that first bridge and then from there it's 2530 the rest. But it's brutal from like that bridge to, you know, the cinema court or just kind like holy cow. Yeah. But but I'm not gonna touch. And we probably should have highlighted the rest of Mil Creek actually as blue or green or whatever color that is because that is over over 20 miles an hour. Yeah. 25 and then 30. Yeah. I also will say I know we're ending it at the bridge, but it would make a lot more sense to me to end it at the stop, you know, like I mean we're we're talking about 30 yards of street and if you you know like it yeah it just makes sense to me to end it at the stop sign.

1:38:06 – 1:38:170

That's that consistency piece you were talking about. Oh yeah, but we we thought we'd help people slow down before the stop sign. So

1:38:14 – 1:38:590

um and I I'm sorry we're complicating this because I I really like the work that's that's gone into this. Um, just to emphasize Jason's point, um, you know, one one complaint that we hear so often and and it's something that I'm guilty of too is that, uh, people cutting off, trying to avoid coming down Main Street, 191, and cutting Fifth West. And I think lowering speed limits uh will make those residents very happy in that block that's currently blue or those that those multiple blocks that are currently blue and potentially deter people from trying to save time by cutting through residential area um to avoid downtown.

1:38:56 – 1:39:400

What's that? Oh, well clearly pretty opposed to increasing. But I think it should be consistent because I think there's a lot of traffic. I mean, I I've biked out to Lions Park on 500 West today. That's Yeah. Yeah. And I I do think cars on my shoulder make a strong point, too, because the bicyclist coming in and out of traffic makes Yeah. And it's it's a section of road too where somebody on a bike hit a deer or somebody or a deer hit a bike, you know, it's it's it's a it's a complicated transportation environment in there with cars parked in the street and deer running across in a residential area. So

1:39:38 – 1:40:220

yeah. So we're making it consistent against what you're sorry. Well, I guess I mean I have to ask the question then of like with 400 east then are we going to revisit changing that to 20 when we get the road redesign? Yes, I I firmly believe that that would be appropriate at at the time we do the redesign and hopefully the reddesign will look a lot like Can Creek because there is an element of slowing Can Creek slows you down. It does. It does and and the traffic is definitely noticeable. So, we ready for a motion then? Yep. You want me to make one? Yeah.

1:40:19 – 1:40:580

Um, I'll make a motion to approve um the recommended speed limits um the event presented while also including the north end of 500 West to also be reduced to 20 miles per hour. What about Mil Creek from the stop sign? And Mill Creek from the stop sign to the bridge making that 25. I can second that. All right. Motion by just Jason Jason, second by Colin. Any further or any further discussion? Jason, I want to get beat up. No, not for me. Colin, none. Uh, anybody else?

1:40:57 – 1:41:300

I would just like to echo depending on how long that redesign is going to take. I think that intersection at Dave's and right there needs some attention. Right. Remember, there will be an ordinance with this in the ordinance. Certainly. Okay. Anybody else? All those in favor say I. I. All those opposed say nay. Motion ticket is broken. Motion passes 5. So there's your there's your goals. We'll look to that ordinance. What? Next meeting.

1:41:28 – 1:42:130

It it might not be next meeting. It might be the meeting after that. Actually, we've got a really packed meeting. The next meeting we will um we'll talk more about that that crosswalk because no nobody liked those temporary bullouts but people don't like running them over either and they do they could slow people down so I like them. Did you? Okay, there's two of us. I I like them as well. I've been towing big trailers around them. I didn't hate them. We'll chat we'll chat some more. All right, so moving on. Thanks guys. Um, yeah, we do not have a close session, which is great option. And we're going to just move on to city manager updates.

1:42:11 – 1:43:070

Oh, all righty. So, we've got a couple of um updates for you. First, I wanted to address the street lights really quick. I know there's been some comments about uh the uh shielding and taking some time getting the shielding and things like that. Uh we're working with Rocky Mountain Power on on this and Rocky Mountain Power still owns these most of these street lights and all the ones that are being shielded anyways and and we're we are definitely working towards trying to get them to get down here and put those shields in. And we are definitely working diligently. Alexi, as you saw tonight, is doing a lot of stuff, but this is one of the priorities is is working on these these street lights. And I just wanted to say that publicly that that um we are still pushing for that. We just have a third party that we are kind of at the will of.

1:43:03 – 1:44:570

Thank you for saying that. Yeah. Um I have a couple other things. I want to thank the the police and all first responders. The fire department left already, but our police department for all the work that they did this weekend keeping everybody safe. I observed them several times. I know there was a lot of highway patrol in town as well, but I believe it was our department that organized everything that was happening and keeping everybody safe and I think they do an exceptional job doing that. So, thank you very much to you guys. Uh we have an event coming up on May 8th um from 5 to 8:00 p.m. at Swany Park. It's the arts and a market. Uh remember we talked in strategic planning about staff tableabling at these these events. We are going to be tableabling at these event this event and we will be talking about water conservation and other items but we will have a static display on water conservation and we'll talk to anybody about anything related to city government. Uh so we'd be happy to talk to anybody who comes up and wants to talk to us. I did want to mention that uh you've heard when we were going through the budget that we were doing an I uh RFP for IT services, a request for proposal for IT services and summer was heading that up and today that closed and we got more than 20 responses 21 responses which uh is amazing. Uh, so we are we're going to be working summer's going to be pulling ma the major load here, but we're going to be looking at a lot of different IT providers to see if we can provide better services to staff, the council, and the community as well through through our products. And that was it for me.

1:44:54 – 1:46:530

Okay. Thank you. Um, council reports, we'll start with you, Caitlyn. starting with me. Okay. Um after our last meeting on the 15th, I had a uh housing task force city subcommittee meeting um where we mostly talked about the um housing dashboard review. um got a little bit of an update about what the county subcommittee is doing. Um I think the task force just generally across all of these is trying really hard to bring us all together on city, county, communitywide um housing conversations. So, um that was probably a general theme of that. Um also on the 15th, I had a semi-in with the mayor since we didn't have our check-in in March. um getting caught up on all the things. Um obviously on the 17th we had our joint meeting. Um and then last the 22nd to the 24th um was at the midyear midway conference league conference with the mayor and Michael and um some of the sessions that I went to went to a session about um homelessness response with the new director of OS Tyler Clancy. um hearing about how homelessness fits into the strategic plan, housing strategic plan at the state. Um pushing a little advocacy for um kind of rural homeless service concerns about how this new response is funneling more and more money up to urban and shelter cities and kind of potentially taking away some emergency response funds that we use down here.

1:46:50 – 1:47:570

um attended a conversation about public private housing um projects um specifically focusing on one project that is in the Draper area. Um just pretty interesting I think. And then kind of finally I also spoke on a panel about a kind of different version of public private partnerships um in Washington city and Ephraim. I think that there's a lot of especially rural cities, but cities across the state that are coming up with really creative solutions to um provide equity, use deed restrictions, and get some of that money back when the homes sell later. Um so, it's really cool to see all the innovation um and the number of partners and agencies that are stepping in for that. Um, and then today I went to the ATAP trails celebration with Governor Cox. That's it for me. Thank you. Colin, you want to go?

1:47:52 – 1:49:130

Sure. Uh, 15th I had the most recent uh wayfinding uh stakeholder group and um you all saw the the great work that that's been coming out of that process. Really excited about that. also at a solid waste meeting um that evening. The the big subject of discussion at solid waste at all of our meetings now is uh and this is something that that I I think a lot of us don't think about, but with all of the building that's happening in town, uh our construction and demolition landfill, Moab landfill is filling up extremely fast. Um and it's uh without some really creative uh interventions, it is it is destined to be closing sooner than later. And so um the the Sway District is working really hard to to try to prolong that and extend the life of that. But uh you know certainly the you know their their operations are are the the wake of progress is a a phrase I heard. Um and on the 17th we had our joint meeting. Not much to say because we weren't allowed to talk in that um No, that's not true. We chose

1:49:10 – 1:49:250

the 20th. See, nobody's here for this, so you can just say anything. 5,000 people watching right now. Yeah. Three people. 3,000.

1:49:23 – 1:50:240

Yeah. And we love all three of you. Yeah. Thanks for being here with us to the end. Uh on the 20th I had a really uh wonderful meeting with Steuart Moab just discussing you know and um common goals between the the city and Steuart Moab and and maybe some some uh future projects that that I would be bringing to all of your attention. Um but that was really fascinating. on the 21st I met with um the mayor and miles a robust discussion and on today on the 28th I also participate participated in the uh in DOT's trails program um in the completion of what's been referred to as the gap uh on Highway 128. So, you know, and as all of you know that uh this is really near and dear to me and I think that this is a uh something I'm so proud of Utah for for really investing in in active transportation and just health and well-being of of the Utah communities. So, that's it for me.

1:50:22 – 1:51:000

Did you ride a bike? I rode a bike. I had to chaperone Jason out there so he didn't get lost. The trails were You go next, Jason. All right. Um I don't tend for um I also attended the joint city county staff meeting um county council meeting um was great um 420 I met with the mayor and um about some things um and then on um what I think everybody else talk you forget what's that

1:50:58 – 1:51:180

you 420 we got to pull it back together here. I'm sorry. I started this Lizzy still in the room. Um

1:51:15 – 1:51:460

Oh, you guys on 427. Um the mayor and I met with um Natalie Randall and Lacy Shamay just to talk about tourism in the area and they were kind of asking what they could do to help us and we're kind of asking what um kind of trying to get a pulse on tourism here and and kind of shared some things that they're doing in the future and stuff which um um got some puppets coming. So anyway, that was about what I got. The vultures

1:51:44 – 1:52:220

the vultures puppet vultures are coming. They had some pretty neat things that they're talking about. with that you should be seeing later on this summer. Um and then today I also attended the um the you know the trail ribbon cutting startup construction um ceremony which was really good. It was I was really impressed with how many um people were there and how many locals come to it and um and um as well as the support we had from the state for that section of trail. So was great. That's all that's all I have. Thanks, Miles.

1:52:19 – 1:54:190

Okay. Uh, I've got a bunch of things, so I will try to be brief. Um, on the 15th, Moab Area Watershed Partnership. Um, I feel like I get to be our doom and gloom guy because I'm on all the waterboards. Uh, so doom and gloom. Um, for the most part it was uh just a bunch of alphabet soup organizations getting together and talking about this is a rough year and we have low snowpack and this is how we're going to deal with it. Um, one of the things that uh we ran through a bunch of the uh legislature bills that had anything to do with water and odds and ends, nothing really stood out for us in the city other than um the Nature Conservancy will be hosting a uh stream management workshop. And I think there might be a lot of insight into how we can uh work on Mil Creek and Pat Creek as it goes through the city to maintain a healthy like biological ecosystem with the creek as well as make sure that it's uh with prepared to withstand the flooding that may occur. Um but it was good to go to that board. It only it meets very infrequently. So it was uh nice to see everybody and kind of like get to know things. they had some questions about the work that we were doing uh in Mil Creek and they were all uh very supportive of what we were doing in order to you know deal with the creek as opposed to the city. Um our city Moab area housing task force Caitlyn covered most of that. I think we're still looking forward to some kind of presentation here for council. Um and that's kind of the big one. Um POSU nothing significant. Um for the most part uh their units are full andor filling back up. They finished a bunch of work over at the Virginia and are, you know, getting people back into the units they were working on. Um, some of the discussion with hosu is just how some of the new state legislature is affecting uh the self-help builds and they're currently fairly insulated from it. Um, but they're as as time goes on, they're not going to have the uh land that's already purchased to provide these self self-help builds and it's

1:54:17 – 1:54:580

going to make it more difficult to qualify for the state grant funding and everything and the federal grant funding. um GISA. Uh so this wasn't up for this meeting, but um a variety of things going down at GWISA, but the things that uh the one that really applies to the city, which we've kind of spoken about to some degree already, is uh the the potential for upgrading a contract for that cemetery well, and I know that's already on everyone's uh in their upcoming meets. Yeah, I'm gonna meet with them tomorrow, but excellent. And then the the agreement will follow.

1:54:56 – 1:56:040

Yeah. So, you guys know what's going on for that. Um, essentially, they have had historical use of this well to provide water for the U. Moab Irrigation Company, and the contract is well and expired. So, we need to, if we're going to continue providing that, we need to update the contract appropriately. Um otherwise from Gwissa they are uh finalizing some things that things that might affect people in the city which is um if you use the hydrants for any reason um they are updating their policy around how that is metered and how that is used. Um so if you're in the city here doing projects or whatever and you use the hydrants know that there is an update with that. Um, Ken's Lake is still technically on the rise, although everyone is well aware that that is mostly because things are melting too early and not because we're, you know, doing well by any means. Um, so GISA was on the 16th. Um, on the 17th joint meeting, uh, I also was told to keep my trap shut. Um,

1:56:060

I didn't. Uh it was no I told him

1:56:09 – 1:57:020

it was it was really cool to see everybody come together. I was really glad to be a part of that. Um it's yeah I was very pleased with how that went. Um meeting with mayor and Colin we discussed a variety of things on the 21st and then uh last Wednesday I had my first Wednesday at the Citizens Police Academy. Um yeah I'm really looking forward to the program. That was kind of an intro day so we got to meet a few of the sergeants and we got to kind of meet each other. I will say it is an amazingly diverse group of people who've chosen to be part of that and I'm actually like quite excited about that. Everything from uh some high school students who are interested in criminal justice or or law um to like people from all walks in the community and uh so I'm really curious to see how that goes. And tomorrow I have my next uh my next session and we're doing traffic stops. So um

1:57:01 – 1:57:200

we were told to be there at 6 so we could watch you get tased. Is that not somebody did get tased? I heard it was so Yeah. Um James got fake tased. Um Oh, three weeks. Oh, okay. So, you got some Got T.

1:57:18 – 1:57:550

Um yeah. Well, we you know, we got to Everybody had to be prepared for the the realities of the Citizens Academy. Um but I'm really looking forward to it. It seems like a great group of people and uh I'm yeah, I'm excited to see more of that. And then of course today I also attended the uh trails um and the filling the gap event and it was good to see the governor down here talking about the state spending money on our community and how important the the visitation to our community is to the entire state and uh I like like to like to hear it like to see it. And that's it. Hey Miles,

1:57:52 – 1:58:320

Miles or Caitlyn. Uh, what what are the waiting lists looking for current looking like currently for a lot of the houseu projects and other projects? I just think that's an important baseline as all these apartments are coming online. Let's see. Um, I know that for self-help I believe both host and CR usually have about 200. Okay. Yeah. Um, but that's kind of rolling. I think they usually go through probably at least 50 people that they call to get a group of like half a dozen. Okay.

1:58:29 – 1:59:010

Um, so it's partially people just not qualified at that time but want to stay on the list or not interested in that particular build or Got it. And what about like the the subsidized housing? Well, yeah. So, for most of the subsidized housing, they're they try to maintain lists of around 30 to 50 people. Okay. Um, and that's like pretty much at any given time, even if they don't have vacancies. And that's just because of the difficulty of application and making sure they can find someone who can actually fill that unit.

1:58:58 – 1:59:430

Um, so to some degree, they're they maintain that list. So they're not hundreds and hundreds of people long um because they're they weed out people who would not qualify or otherwise. And then they take their strongest applicants and kind of hang on to them until something's available. Um, so they they fluctuate and I did not take a note in the last meeting of like they they do report exactly how many people are on the waiting list for each different development and I did not take that note. Um, but I know that recently like the Virginia had three vacancies because they were doing updates to them after longtime turnovers and those have now all been filled. Okay. So they're Yeah, they definitely stay full and there are definitely still people looking for that type of housing. Tony,

1:59:41 – 2:00:040

I was kind of out of commission last week. I was out of town for a while. Um, I did attend the joint city county meeting on the 17th and my meeting with the mayor kind of got hijacked some way or another. So, that was really all I did.

1:59:59 – 2:01:590

Okay. Thank you. Um, for me, I attended U. Margaret Mackey's 100th birthday party at the Grand Center, and I have a certificate I'm going to bring to her this week, celebrating her 100th birthday. Great lit gal. She's lived here since 1952. She's from Netherlands. She was involved in World War II. Amazing stories. Um, so anyway, that was great to be able to do that. And, um, joint city county meeting, um, where everybody was well behaved. It was really good to see that. you know, great discussions on umptra economic development and water conservation. Attended the St. George, Utah League of Cities and Towns. Um, I talked about the fire. I also attended a two water workshops. One of them was on water policy and Jean Shakraftoft. He is the chairman of the negotiations for the Colorado River Compact. And then also Bri Brian Steed who's over the great salt lake but also involved in the water issues around the state in the Colorado River. And I just and then today even the governor said that there's just no water rights left in the state of Utah. And both of these Jean and Shakro specifically said just to be very clear there's no more water rights available off the Colorado River in the state of Utah. And I'd love to share with you guys, and I will when we meet, what I learned about the Colorado River Compact that I never knew. I've talked to a couple of you guys about it, but it's pretty fascinating as to why we're in this position today. And I don't want to spend a lot of time going on that, but when we meet, I'll I'll share that with you. Um Brian Ste brought up the same thing. There's, you know, the C Utah gets 23% of half of the or what's remaining from the lower basin states and that's it. And we've used every drop. And so there just is no more there's not going to be any more water coming out of Colorado River for Utah and the governor said the same thing today. Um, if you guys heard

2:01:57 – 2:03:570

him speak, that's what he said. But anyway, fascinating. I mean, water is really fascinating. We're in a really interesting volatile time with water right now in the state of Utah in the whole West. So, it was really interesting. I also met with I also had a workshop with Kelsey Bird. You guys probably don't remember her. She was Mitt Romneyy's chief of staff. She's now over um the Olympics. She's their government relations person. And so it was really Kaitlin, you got to meet with her. She's a really really great gal and um she's was given a presentation on 2034 and you know my whole thing is we need Moab's going to be a part of this somehow. Everybody knows that. Um, everybody knows like so who was saying today about uh, you know, I went to Switzerland and everybody in Switzerland knew Moab, you know, and and I think, you know, people are going to come here from all over the world. They're going to want to come here and they're going to think it's just down down the road. So, we got to start working on how we can we can help with the visitation into the state and get those people down here during the Olympics. Uh, let's see. He met with Natalie Randall and uh Lacy Shamway with Jason and we've got some secrets. Um everybody will find out about tonight, right? Uh so anyway, pretty cool stuff coming to Moab in the next couple of months. Um and then oh is that the uh month the Moab Taylor steering committee meeting today? Uh really good information from that. It looks like all the subplots and outside of the pile plots are going to be removed from the site by next summer. Um and then they're going to start working on the cover for the disposal cells out at Crescent Junction. So, you know, hopefully it they're thinking by the end of 28 um the site will probably be ready for closure. It's always been 29. I anticipate it'll probably be 29. But a lot of good stuff going out there.

2:03:55 – 2:04:360

It's those guys have been kind of a part of the Moab family for a long time. Um, and then lastly was at the trail gap uh event today. Had some really good conversations with the governor my mostly about energy. Um, and I also had good conversation with uh his his government affairs Mike Mau and uh we'll be talking again soon I'm sure. So um that's it from me. Do we have anything else? I'll ask for a motion to adjourn. Motion by Col, second by Miles. All in favor? I I

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