City Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, September 22, 2025
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Government Body
City Council
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City Council
Location
Flint, MI
Meeting Date
September 22, 2025

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16:40 – 17:150

behave worse than out of control teenagers and there is something extremely disturbing about that. Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk. Next speaker is Beverly Bes Levy. if you would like.

17:11 – 17:300

Okay. Uh this was in reference to the Cameron versus Delaney case as listed on your agenda. Um we're seeking uh to provide additional information that's exempt from state and federal law under attorney client privilege.

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Thank you. So, we do have um a sixth council member that will be joining us momentarily. We just have to wait for him to enter. So, I what I do not want to do is start public comment and then try and go back. So, I do want to wait for Mr. Feifer to enter the chambers. We do have both Mr. Feifer and Miss Johnson entering the chambers. And so, um, as Miss Johnson enters the chambers, Attorney Curley, will you please once again, um, go into what the close session you requested is about. Pursuant to the Open Meetings Act, um in order to go into close session for trial and or settlement uh authority, uh the city clerk, um I'm sorry, the city

19:24 – 19:430

attorney needs authorization from council with six votes. And this is in reference to the Cameron versus Delaney case that the city um is a defendant in.

19:48 – 20:050

Thank you, Councilwoman Priestley. I make a motion to go into close session. Thank you. Is there support for Councilwoman Priestley's motion to go into close session? Moved and properly supported. Supported by the Councilman in the first ward. Roll call. Madame Clerk,

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Mr. Alamine, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter is not in. Miss Burns, yes. Miss Mich, yes. Mr. Feifer, yes. Mr. Mr. Jared is not in. The vote is seven yes, zero no. The vote is seven yes, zero no. The time is now 4:37 p.m. Um, Monday, September 22nd. We will go into close session.

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[Music] Mr. Alamine, present. Dr. Lewis, present. Miss Johnson, present. Miss Priestley, present. Miss Winfrey Carter, present. Miss Burns, present. Miss Michette, present. Mr. Feifer, Mr. Jared is not in. You have eight members present.

44:28 – 45:330

We have eight members present. I'm going to read the uh disorderly the disorderly person city code subsection one more time. Any person that persists in disrupting this meeting will be in violation of the Flint City Code section 31-10 disorderly conduct, assault and battery and disorderly persons and will be subject to arrest for a misdemeanor. Any person who prevents the peaceful and orderly conduct of any meeting will be given one warning. If they persist in disrupting the meeting, that individual will be subject to arrest. Violators will be removed from the meetings. You are subject to council rules. It is now time for public speaking, excuse me, public comment. Members of the public who wish to address the city council or its committees must register before the meeting begins. A box will be placed at the entrance to the council chambers for collection of registrations. No additional speakers or slips will be accepted after the meeting begins. Members of the public shall have no more than three minutes per speaker doing public comment with only one speaking opportunity per speaker. First public speaker, Madame Clerk.

45:35 – 47:330

The first speaker is RL Mitchell. Wow, it's working. Hello, my name is RL Mitchell. I live at 759 East Blendon Avenue. I was born in Georgia, 1951, August 15th. come to Flynn in 1955 and uh and to to the rep to all the people's uh Flint talking about Democrat and Republican. Other day other day they talk about uh the seven ward. Uh I was over there on East Street last week and uh the people's coming to Flint taking over all these businesses. They asked me why come I walk by their house every day and she there's a lady she invited me on the porch. She said," She called my name, "Rel Mitchell. How are you doing?" I said, "I'm hungry." She said, "You you really is? Come on up. Come on up. Have a seat right here." No wonder God told me to cook two hamburgers. I'm going to go in the house and get you one. But she had a big 150 lb big siren sheep dog in the window, licking out his tongue, wagging his tail. I said, "I'm going to come in." I said, "No." I said, "What?" He bites Mitchell. I said, "He won't bite. He won't bite me. He wagging his tail." But anyway, she says some good news about Candace Mash. She had like she was asking me what's going on with this neighborhood. But I said, "Do you know your council lady?" Then she mentioned Mich. Yeah. She came to another meeting. So that's So I hope you get the presidency tonight. But Tanya Burns might beat you out like salemate. But in a because Tanya Barn ain't no joke. and and the vice president uh miss the fifth one might beat you

47:30 – 48:160

out. Got that? But another thing about uh this police brutality in Flint and and the re we really get our money but you go to the close session don't want the people to know what's going on. They already fired 15 judges in the United States. I hope they don't fire none of one working on our cases in in Flint where we can get our money because when two of them is suicidal and they they grinding their teeth they got head headaches to me the dentist told stolen one of them got because he was grinding his teeth getting mad at the President Trump kicking ass because he going Trump ain't no joke no joke

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how many more minutes I got lady 32 seconds make them count yeah like I Mr. Sack, keep on doing what you're doing, whatever you're doing. Talk to the neighbors talking about they're going to give you She took a video of me. She and she published it and it went, "Why?" She said, "Now, Mr. I can't lie you in the port inside because it's against the law. She got a hospital women's making babies." And I said, "Don't you know Miss Town right there across the street?" I mean, she said, "Yeah, she like she don't know who Mr. But getting away boys and girl in in a and heck come the knife war coming in late. Johnny come late. Johnny come maring home again. Black nights. Thank you. Next speaker, madame clerk.

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The next speaker is Zo Lynch. Hello, my name is Zo Lynch. I represent NAMI, the National Alliance on Mental Illness today and I'd like to invite the community to a couple of events. The first one is going to be happening this Saturday at the Church Without Walls. It's at 6202 Dupant Street. It'll be uh this Saturday, the 27th, from 2 to 6. We'll have a DJ, so music, food. It'll be a onem uh walk, and we'll also have bounce houses and games for the children. So, everybody's welcome to come. Uh donations are welcome, however, they're not mandatory. Uh the second is going to be on October the 15th at the Flint Farmers Market. Uh from 6:30 from six o'clock until 8:30, we're going to have a focus group. We'll have Dennis Russell is going to be our feature speaker. We'll have a panel of uh of various um uh speakers uh that are resources throughout the community and I'll tell you in in a couple weeks exactly who they'll they'll be and we'll have uh beverages and we'll also have um I guess that's it. Anyway, you're all welcome to come. Uh there's there's no charge to the public and we're hoping for a big crowd. So, it's going to be 6:30 or 6 o'clock to 8:30 at the Flint Farmers Market in the Ramsdale room on October the 15th. Thank you.

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Thank you,

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speaker. Madame Clerk, the next speaker is Stanley Wood. She was a fairy. So, good evening, council. I'm going to just check touch on one subject right now, and it's mainly addressing the city clerk. Obviously, the state of Michigan Michigan came down with their uh response to your request to the uh Leon Alamine's first ward residency and that you have to take care of this is basically what their answer was. Keep in mind that's not a dis uh discretionary duty. It's a legal obligation of the city clerk's office. The charter makes it clear about the residency requirement and must be enforced and failure to do so undermines the integrity of our local government. Um, today I sent out a letter to you certified mail, so I'll know that you received it or at least I know the mail room received it. Um, I asked two months ago to have you guys look into that and I know you forwarded information from several people on to the state. Um, and the state came back with their answers. So, I'm formally asking you uh in this letter that I sent that if the investigation is not com not started with results in 30 days, I'm going to have no choice but to file a writ of mandamus in the Jennese County Court, the seventh district court. This writ would compel you as the clerk to perform your nondiscretionary

52:37 – 53:590

duties that are required by law. Um, I didn't think I'd have time left, but let's talk about the rubber stamping that was talked about last week. Uh, and why people think this. And one of the reasons I I wrote down three reasons why some people think it. Um, here's an example. Whiti Whitigan coming into council for the hurly board without going through any other steps. He just came right to council on that. Uh what about items that just keep coming to special affairs without ever going to a committee? What's the purpose of the committee? I thought that was to discuss thing and then either move it to council or move it to special affairs if more information is needed. and then bringing things back when they failed already, but bringing them back when you have five votes. That way you can get that stuff passed. Deina, back to you. Um, I appreciate you. I know you're trying to do your work. I know you said you're independent. You're not on any team. Uh, you're fair and impartial. And it's kind of time to to show that, you know, you're going to ruffle some feathers in what you do and you're going to set the example because I can tell you right now if the only requirement is to show a driver's license.

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Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk. Next public speaker. Madame clerk.

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The next speaker is James Moore. James Moore, second ward. Um, been in a long time, been out a short time, but I'm back. Um, it looks like all nine seats is filled. Um, I'm I was reading that thing out there and it was saying that the same president is still president and the same vice president is still vice president. And I just wanted to make a suggestion. Maybe if y'all just took um being the president once a week or whenever you meet twice a month, maybe to be a little bit more fairness and uh the people of the city of Flint could see that y'all really are working together, you know. um they watch us fight down here and all kind of stuff. Let's be able to show them that we can cooperate and work together to get something done. So, I'd like to see the president, the vice president moved around. Have a good day.

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Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk. The next speaker is Arthur Woodson. [Applause] How you doing? Let me uh start off by asking uh I guess I should ask or should I make a statement uh for the full council meeting since I have nine council people up here? Uh shouldn't council start off by voting for a president and vice president?

55:50 – 57:150

Yeah. because uh y'all don't supposed to be having council meetings without the new president, which was supposed to been voted in back in November, I think. So, shouldn't it start off with uh voting for president and vice president? Uh uh Joel Arnold going to be speaking about something that both of us was thinking about and he was already working on it about planning commission and green zone uh in on the master plan since President Trump didn't done away with uh the green zone or green dollars. The north side and east side can't get any dollars because it's designated as a green zone. So, shouldn't you all be voting to lift the green zone from north side and east side and coming up with something so that the north side can get development dollars on your uh agenda for full city council. Uh you have some appointments and one of those uh couple of the appointments are compensation. Mayor Neilie ran in 20 what 19 saying that he was going to give the salary back that Mayor Weaver was getting but he doubled down. He got a raise.

57:11 – 58:370

He's putting people on this comp compensation board that is real close to him and his family that will be yes for raising a raise, giving him a raise, but they won't give y'all any. So, uh, the Democrats cannot speak ill of President Trump or the Republicans, man, because they do the same thing. They put people in position that's loyal to them and not loyal to the people or the job uh that they supposed to be working for the people. They are yes people. And and we have issues with that. The majority of the people that he's putting on these boards are people that bows down and kiss the ring. I said majority, not all, but the majority. Uh, Councilwoman uh Johnson, you are just now getting on the council. And I hope and pray that when uh they come up with uh drinking wa drinking water loans, asking you all to vote on it, that you don't just vote on it, that you really do due diligence because the people in the city of Flint should not have to pay for anything that the state broke, which is our water manes, our service lines, and all other things. Thank you.

58:35 – 1:00:330

Thank you. Next public speaker. Madame clerk delay. Stephanie, say something over a new attitude about the boss. Second The next speaker is Karma Lewis. Good evening, council. My name is Karma Lewis and I am a resident of the second ward as well as president of Flint Neighborhoods United. Like many others that have come in tonight, I'm asking this body to take up the housing resid read readiness zoning reform at the next

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legislative committee meeting. It is important that we make it easier to build homes in our neighborhoods. And for our neighbors to have meaningful opportunities to become homeowners. Unfortunately, some of the rules that no longer make sense and need to be adjusted. These reforms would make it possible to build a home on a single lot in green neighborhoods, for instance, making it much or less expensive for someone to acquire land to invest in some of our most disinvested neighborhoods. I strongly encourage the council to take up these reforms passed by the planning commission back in February. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk.

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The next speaker is Joel Arnold. Good evening, city council. Uh my name is Joel Arnold. I'm a Flint resident. Uh and I'm here much like Karma before me. Um just asking uh this body to take up a set of zoning revisions that were passed um actually by the planning commission back in February um kind of titled the housing readiness zoning reform. So, uh, you know, kind of across our city, I think we know it's gotten more and more expensive to buy a house or to rent a house. And a lot of times before this body, there are, you know, proposals to spend a lot of money to try and fix this or subsidies on projects, which often are really important, right? But there's also a lot of things we can do at no cost to just kind of get out of our own way. Um, and sometimes that's things like reforming setbacks, reforming minimum lot sizes, sort of in the weeds stuff that we don't think about every day until you're trying to build that house or until you're trying to put that addition uh on your property. And so, um, you know, these were done through a lot of thoughtfulness with the city staff. They actually had received a grant from MISTA of about $50,000 to study what were the big barriers to building homes in our city. They spent a lot of time to put together a set of zoning reforms that were passed without actually any dissenting votes on the planning commission uh this past February. And all that we're asking now is through whatever process is needed uh to get those items on the council agenda. Um so I know they'd have to go through the legislative committee and before a regular council committee. Um just because it's one of those things that our city can do for zero dollars that'll make it easier to build homes. Uh and like like Mr. Woodson said, especially to build homes on the north side and on the east side where sometimes our our minimum lot sizes that you need to build a house can sometimes actually be bigger than the lot itself of a normal city lot. So, uh, reforming zoning and land use laws is never done. Uh, you know, we'll endlessly be doing this, but I encourage this council to take up these reforms. Um, and, uh, we'll be happy as well to share, uh, they're all on the city website and all

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their redlinined kind of glory if you want to read through exactly what they are. So, thank you so much for your time tonight. Um there's some others of us here who are here to speak to the same effect. Um but thank you so much. Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk.

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The next speaker is Sarah Houston. [Applause] Good afternoon, council. My name is Sarah Houston, resident of the six ward. Access to communication is a right, not an issue to be discussed. Last meeting, it was said that Detroit coun city council requires a 40 hour 48 hour notice. That is no longer true. They provide interpreters at every council meeting without request. Also, MK Community College provides interpreters without request for their board meetings. Jennese County Board of Commissioners provide interpreters without request for their meetings. The bud budget should not be an issue when we have board members itching to give $300,000 to other endeavors, understanding that the $300 is for replenishing a food desert. But you are starving your deaf citizens of vital information every time a press conference is held, a resolution gets passed and where ARPA res our ARPA resources are so that that they are just entitled to where they can find them. Every time the city puts on an event, the deaf are the last to know because they are among the least thought about. The city of Flint is home to the state school for the deaf and never thinks to include them in the very things their money pays taxes for. That is shameful. I ask that you think of them in all we do as a city. I ask that you be in compliance with the Michigan Deaf Persons Interpreter Act and provide their God-given right to language access. Equal access requiring a request is not equal. you had a request a year ago and they're still waiting. I would ask that you guys stop putting it off. I do know somebody reached out

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to communication access center. I thank you whoever that was uh for inquiring. So you should have some numbers coming your way. Um it shouldn't be a budget issue. It should be a line item just like that hundred,000 for the uh office budget supplies. It should be just as the same thing put out for access, language access for the people that you serve. I ask you again, please stop putting it off. Stop making people wait. It doesn't matter if they come or they don't. They should be able to decide at 3:30 p.m. they want to be here at 4:30, just like everybody else in here does. It's called equal access under the law. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk. [Applause]

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The next speaker is Tanya Jones. Good evening. My name is Tanya Jones. I'm here because merely the close friend John Cole received 20 to 40 years today. I don't feel like I don't feel like that was enough. I feel like he should have got life without parole. He was passing out AIDS like it was candy to young boys, not girls, boys. My son was part of his case. My son is autistic and he has full-blown sequel. I will ask everybody, would you pray for all the victims, not just the one victim today because he d he got eight of his charges dropped. So I need that everyone to know to pray for all of them because it's a lifetime thing you have to deal with. And my son is missing again behind this. He feel like, oh, just because he talked to the under sheriff or whatever, they stalking him and they're going to kill him or whatever, but I'm his mother and nothing's going to happen to him. God got him. I'mma ask Miss Tanya Burns because I'm not going to get an answer from nobody else. I would like to know because my son is a part of the opi crisis. He's on meth and he's supposed to be on his medicine for cle cell but obviously he's self-medicating. So first of all, where's the opium plan? Second, 30% of the opioid dollars go to something other than the opiate pre prevention and intervention. What has the city of Flint been using the millions of dollars they receive for the opioid settlement funds?

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I'm just asking these questions because I need to know. I'm advocating for my son, but what about the people that don't have nobody to advocate for them? Why is the mayor using the opioid fund millions of dollars for his own personal stash for like campaigning for his personal writings for giving away money to organizations at his own free will? All I can say is I'm tired. I got a towel on my head because guess what? I was conditioning my hair, but I'm tired. So I just want to just be the voice for I'm not going nowhere. No matter what God called my son home, guess what? I'm not going nowhere because my son opened my eyes to this is what's going on in Flint. So, Miss Tanya Burns, I'm asking you. Usually, when it's all done and over with y'all, I'll move on. Um, she got her head down, but she went to church with my son at Ebeneia. So, I feel like churches, y'all talking about concerned churches, concerned pastors, why they ain't reached out and said, "Tanya, how can I help?" That's what church is about. That's what I grew up. That's why I don't go to churches around here cuz I'm hurt and I don't know what to do. But Miss Mashett, she don't need to be president because it start outside of this council. It's like having a kid. I don't know if you got kids, but it's about outside. I'm a mama. I'm a concerned mother. My son is 31 years old. But all all my kids, I got a 34 year old, a 31 31 year old, and a 29 year old. They still my babies. And we all child of God. But it's not about when you in church. He was he was he was on choir. He was doing everything. He was doing everything. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, Madame Clerk.

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God bless you.

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The next speaker is Mari Copeny. [Applause] Every single week, council members show up in this chamber improve their attitude and behaviors are way worse than actual juveniles. Last week, we witnessed as the council president bullied both other council members and residents of the community. It's almost as if she forgot she works for the residents and the council person from the fourth w thought it was appropriate to remove her shoe, lean back in her chair and lift her dirty nasty barefoot for the whole entire chamber to see. And when the youth expressed how immature those actions were, she laughed about it. So please don't ever attempt to tell the actual children to stay in a child's place. When you got up there and showed everyone your foot like you were auditioning for Featfinder. PS, nobody would buy it, by the way. Now, now, now that now that we are past the childish repulsive behavior of our elected officials, let's move on. Early this morning on Welsh, an 11-year-old child was shot while he slept in bed. Also, also injured was a 18-year-old. Not even a week before that, a young mother was also shot in a driveby on Copman where 14 shots were fired into her home where she lives with her one-year-old child. We need to make sure police resources are used to try to prevent these types of shootings from happening as opposed to being wasted on another task force to enforce luring. In fact, I would really like it if we can focus more on resources into community policing, proactive policing, and positive interactions. I will also suggest they receive some conflict resolution so they aren't being aggressive and abusive towards civilians. Kids deserve to grow up in a community knowing they can get tucked into bed at night and not be shot where they dream at night. And I know you guys vote for a new president. Please don't vote in chaos again.

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Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk.

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The next speaker is Madison Oric. Hello, city council. My name is Madison Quig. I'm now a proud new resident of the ninth ward. I know you see me. I see you. I'm very excited for my new house. But I'm speaking on something today that's very dear to me. Um, and that it affects me and it affects my neighbors and I'm someone who has no barriers when it comes to finding housing. Also, sorry if I cry if anyone who's seen me do public comment. I get emotional because this stuff affects people that I care about. Um, and it took me two months trying to find an affordable place to live. And I don't think that's something that people should have to face when just wanting to live somewhere that they love, somewhere they feel safe. And so that's why I'm here to speak about um again, sorry. Um, I'm here tonight with others asking that the council place on its agenda the housing read housing readiness zoning reforms passed over seven months ago by the planning commission. In many Flint neighborhoods, we have quirky rules that make it challenging to build new homes. From some minimum lot size rules that are bigger than the lots, we even have setback rules that make it very hard to fit a house on a lot. These reforms address these issues, cost the city zero dollars, and make it easier to build, especially in areas zoned green neighborhood and traditional neighborhood. Um, so that's typically about the north side and east side like has been mentioned before. Um, and please work to get these reforms on the legislative committee agenda and thank you for helping to make the city more affordable. I really hope that you guys do consider and get this on there soon because when I was um desperate trying to find housing, people were saying, "Have you looked in Graham Blink? Have you looked in Davidson?" And no, because I love my city and I want to stay here and I know other people feel the same way, but they can't stay here if there's nowhere affordable to live. So, thank

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you guys so much for your time. Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk. The next speaker is Claire McClinton.

1:14:29 – 1:16:250

Good afternoon, council. We have so many challenges that we face and um if we draw on our history, the history of Flint, the history of the workingclass people that made this city thrive through the labor movement, the fair housing movement, all done by the grassroots people. No, no superstar came in and did this for us. We did it for ourselves. And we also had a provision for, as I say, open housing. Uh there were people on the line and so on and so forth. And again, I'm going to reiterate those movements left a legacy for us to pay it forward for a more perfect union, as they say. And we have to ask ourselves when council people are assaulting residents, even when we had the emergency manager, when we were living under dictatorship here in the city of Flint. Even then, we didn't have residents arrested for trying to speak. And so again, and we going to keep on asking, from where did you all come from? Because you're not carrying out the legacy

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that was laid out for us. We've got a reputation to uphold. We're the leaders

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in social justice. equity and economic justice. And where from whence do you come? You're not picking up those banners again. When we had three or four emergency managers, even they didn't come in here and sick the police on residents. So, you need to get it together. But one Oh. Oh wow. Thank you for the seconds. Uh we need to find out get to the bottom of the remaining opera funds. There is a movement of foot is slow but sure that people are going to get their water settlement money. Did y'all hear what I said? I said it's slow but sure and coming soon. People will be getting their water settlement money. And there you go.

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Thank you. Next public speaker, madame clerk.

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The next speaker is Chad Schlloer. Good evening, city council. My name is Chad Slosher. I'm a resident of the sixth ward and a homeowner in the city of Flint. And I also uh want to be sure that other Fluent residents have the same opportunities that I have had. Unfortunately, being a homeowner can be challenging and expensive, something we all know all too well. While many of the solutions to our housing crisis are very expensive, there are some reforms that we can tackle at no cost. The housing read readiness zoning reforms are one such reform effort. By making some simple changes to our zoning law to unlock more single family homes and duplexes in our city, these changes will make it easier for Flint residents to invest in their own neighborhoods and build their own homes in more affordable ways. I strongly encourage the council to take up this agenda item at your next legislative committee meeting and pass these reforms. Thank you for your leadership and the work you do for our city. Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk.

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The next speaker is David Peachy, [Applause] fourth residents. I'm just here to ask the same old questions. How much money is in the ARPA fund? And one of my big questions is there was $400,000 given out for nine wards. I would like to know each one of you to tell me how much you got for your ward because I understand one ward right in front of me here, the fifth ward got a $100,000. That would be 25% of that 400,000. I'd like to know why it wasn't divided up equally among nine boards because they're all in bad shape. Some are better than others. But these are things that we care about. We need to be answered.

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That's right. my neighborhood. I appreciate Judy, I'm not going to put you down, but I you got to stop being with the mayor. Every time I turn on TV, there you are. They're not in our ward. I've never seen in our ward on TV, but you spent too much time with Neie. He's getting his way. Th This is just ridiculous. That's about all I think that's all I want to say. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk. The next speaker is Derek Dorman.

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Uh hello council. My name is Derek Dorman. I'm a resident of the fifth ward. Um I want to thank council for taking many steps over the last several years to reform zoning laws in our city. It has truly had a big impact. Unfortunately, the work is never fully done as there are always changes needed to make it even easier to build quality, affordable homes in Flint. That's why tonight I'm asking council to take up the housing readiness zoning reforms. These reforms tackle simple things like setbacks, lotsize minimums, and more that will make it easier to build homes, especially in green neighborhoods. If we want to provide meaningful opportunities for home ownership in Flynn, then we need to make it easier for folks to build a home of their own. These reforms move us closer in that direction and I ask that it be added to the next legislative committee agenda. Thank you for your time and have a wonderful evening. Thank you. Next public speaker, Madame Clerk.

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The final speaker for this meeting is Beverly Big Levy. [Applause] My name is Beverly Big Levy. I want to talk about you guys still think it's okay that Leon stays in that seat when that lady on Cole Carpenter Road got killed by her boyfriend. Domestic violence. You guys still think that's okay? That's not okay. And then he killed himself.

1:22:03 – 1:22:320

It's time for you guys to wake up. innocent until proven guilty. That girl was innocent. She didn't have to ask. She didn't have her life. She don't want her life to go with three babies. If you guys think it's okay that this person that don't live in the first ward,

1:22:29 – 1:23:010

that don't live in the first ward. He's on Sherman in Mount Morris Township. He don't live in our city. Why is he still on this on this in the seat? Deina, I know they probably done threatened you. They probably done harass you and everything else. But if they fire you, put in a lawsuit on them. Amen.

1:22:58 – 1:23:390

Cuz it's time out for us to sit around here. He shouldn't be bidding on anything in that seat. nothing. He beat his girlfriend up, bruised her, and you guys say innocent until proven guilty. How much innocent that she needs to do? She got bruises all over her body. And this not the first time, the second time, the third time. And like I say, Judy, if it was your cat that got choked, got beaten, you told us you cut his balls off,

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but you want him to stay in that seat. Candace, you don't have any kids, so it doesn't matter to you because like I said, your dad had 190 count rate. So, it's normal. If you guys think this is normal, you better wake up. You better wake up. And training starts at home. Liddell, you need to train before you try to chastise us grown folks. Try training some at your house. And I say that by virtue because I seen it with my own eyes.

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Lean, you getting what you got. But if the mayor mean you any good, tell him to get you some reading classes cuz your reading is horrible. You read like my third grade. My third grader. And everybody everybody heard you read. Everybody heard you read. Have a great

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Thank you. Oh, you said that was the final public speaker. Seeing as how that is the final public speaker, it is now time for council response. Council members may respond once to all public speakers only after all public speakers have spoken. An individual council members response shall be limited to two minutes. Is there anyone who would like the floor during council response? Madam Chair,

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councilwoman in the fourth ward. want to thank you for everyone who came and addressed concerns regarding the community and what we can do as a city council. Um, housing has become a particular um thing close to my heart because of all of the vacant homes and the burned out homes and all of the um people in my ward who are living in as squatters in landbank homes as well as privately owned homes. I have every conference that I attend to that has a home um ownership, home developing, anything related to home ownership piece. I attend that and um I will take a good look at the proposal when it comes forward. I am looking for alternative financing sources. I know that Joel that's a big thing with Joel Joel and I have spoken on this a couple of times. Um, and I found I heard a very good Friday at the Michigan Municipal League. Um, Miss Johnson and I attended a a workshop on um pre-approved plans for homes and how the cities that have done that in this and the state have developed that so that people who want to buy a piece parcel of property and put a home on it, they can put these plans on and they're already approved and gone through the planning process. So, there's lots of information out there that we're learning and we're bringing back to the city and discussing with department heads and I um I'm looking forward to reading the proposal because I have not read it because I didn't know that was there. Thank you for that information.

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Are you yielding the floor? Is there anyone else who wishes to speak during council response? Madam Chair, councilwoman in the sixth ward.

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Thank you. Um, I want to say thank you to everyone that showed up today and I want to say thank you to Six Ward, Sarah and Chad representing. I love that. And to that whole back roll where I kind of got caught up in um, uh, Karma, Joel, um, and, uh, Chad, Derek, I don't know where he went. And to the young lady, congratulations on your new home. It is something to be proud of because you love where you live and that's a wonderful thing that is. But I don't have karma if you can get with me. I don't have the uh the readiness. I do believe access to housing. Um it is is important because we have got a lot of apartments. I like to see homeowners we can get some equity and so if you can get that one of you in that role. Uh Joel, you're really good at it. So I don't Thanks. So we're good. I I do want to say to the family of the young lady, I'm going to say her name. Princess Williams was killed a week ago for domestic violence. She was held in a park all day with a gun where he told her he was going to kill her and her three children. Then he told her he would keep the two-month-old alive. He took he said you can die here or you can die at home. There was a standoff. Domestic violence. We have to take it serious. He killed her. She has a she left behind a two-month-old baby because people she didn't know where to go. There was nobody helping her. But when you help people, we get people who threaten you, who ride by your parents' house, your other relatives house. We get that. But I want to say to Kiki Martin, her mother, Miss Jackson, thank you for keep showing up because in the absence of your daughter's voice, your voice is being heard. That domestic violence, we're understanding. We're representing. It won't be tolerated.

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Abuse against any man or woman. We have to speak out. Stop domestic violence. Thank you, Miss Jackson, for showing up. Thank you. Is there anybody else who wishes to speak during council response? Councilwoman in the second ward.

1:29:11 – 1:31:090

Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, and to our guest in the back, um, Joel as well as Chad. I'm definitely on board um, for housing, new housing in the city. And I don't know if you all remember, but I brought the Naka program here when we did that u seminar at McCree. And unfortunately, we had people from all over the state come and little representation from the city of Flint. And Naka is spelled NACA. And what do they do? They prepare you for firsttime home ownership. So when you find a structure that you want to reside in, they offer the free um basically like no closing cost and you get a a big percentage rate lower than the going rate. So, it is a program that literally walks you through every single process and it's funded by the banks and also they have a program where they're starting to drop modular homes on vacant lots. So, again, that is definitely a a big push of mine seeing, you know, our homeless population. And a lot of people think the homeless means that you're on the street. But if you're sitting sleeping on your grandma's couch, you know, you're your auntie's in your auntie's basement, you know, that can um make you homeless as well. So, we want to make sure that we get affordable housing here. So, I'm totally on board. I also want to highlight the great things that happened in the second w this weekend. We were able to name our field um at Haskells after the late great Glenn Kelly. and we had a great showing and we also was able to give the International Academy of Flynn a new home to play their home games. So, we're looking forward to the new attention that will be um highlighted and spotlighted over there in the second ward. And also, as you all saw the sign that said that a ice skating rink is coming, we want to make sure that we hear from you. What do you all want to see at Haskells? What do you all want to see in your neighborhood? And also I

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want to continue to encourage the residents to come out to the second w community conversations. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak during council response? Seeing how there is no one else who wishes to speak during council response, I will go ahead and take my time. Um the only thing that I have uh is for both the city attorney and the city clerk, more soul city clerk. Um the housing readiness reform. Can we see where that is and make sure that um we have all the information needed to bring that resolution to committee on Wednesday?

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Thank you. Um and that is all I will do with my time. Seeing as how I am the last speaker, it is now time for the consent agenda. What is the pleasure of the body? Madam Chair, councilwoman in the fourth ward. I make a motion to send the consent agenda to council. There's been a motion by the councilwoman in the fourth ward to send the consent agenda to council. Is there support? Support. Moved and properly supported by the councilman in the first ward. Are there separations, madam chair? Councilwoman in the sixth ward. Um 2550303. Okay. Mhm. Um

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can you do 262 just cuz we got to fix it? Yeah. Add that one too. And that's uh all I have. All righty. Are there any more separations? Yes, madame chair. Councilwoman in the fifth ward. Um, I would like to separate 2550323 3250 326

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25318 25319 25320 20 25321 and 25322. All right. As well as the add-ons 2550324. [Music] Hold on one second. Is it not? It's communications on the council agenda.

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Oh, okay. That's good. Um to Well, we do have an add-on. The sweeper. So, this isn't an add-on that Council Yeah, Councilwoman Burns separated this already. Okay. Yeah, I see it. I just separated that. It's 2550326. It was already separated, but thank you. Yes, ma'am. All righty.

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All right. Um, are there any more separations? S councilman in the ninth ward. Go ahead. Hit us with that complete separation. That's what we're doing. Complete separation. Awesome. Moving on to resolution 25303-t, establishment for the special police unit, enforcement of loitering and other nuisance ordinances. Um, what is the pleasure of the body? Madam Chair, councilman in the first ward. I'd like to move 2550303 SLT to council. There is a motion on the floor to move this resolution to council. Is there support? Madam chair.

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Moved and properly supported by the council woman in the fourth ward. Is there discussion in the first round? Councilwoman Burns, you separated. Go ahead. Thank you. Um, Madam Chair, Chief Green, I saw him hit the elevator. Is there someone in the back? Is the chief still present? Okay. Okay. So, I don't see him. So, go ahead.

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Oh, well, that was one of my question because I think that when we look at this, one of my concerns are it's uh redundant and we're duplicating. Um we already have I think some of the things that came into we talked about the mayor. It was a task force I believe to be created. The mayor has a blue ribbon task force that was created I believe in 2020. Um in addition to that loitering we already have or lording on uh ordinances and resolutions that are in effect um that what we need is enforcement. We have loering signs which are put on municipalities I mean not on municipalities businesses uh such as party stores clubs and if you ask they will um you just have to inquire with the police department uh get with the chief and they send an officer out to post it so if someone comes on your property it gives the city permission uh to um to arrest and then there's other loitering that's already so I felt this was redundant uh it was duplicating And then in addition they also have the program the green light program where many of the businesses have you see the green light they have cameras that the live feed goes directly to the intel center. So this was not what this was to me I it felt it was redundant. Um if you read the ordinance books what we have is an enforcement problem. We continue to lose officers because of the rate of pay. Uh we look at Michigan the state um University of Michigan, you got like a $15 um top out wage as opposed to Flint. We need to improve that gap. And so that is the the issue is enforcement. I don't think we need another uh ordinance that we don't have the capability of enforcing and putting that burden upon our police department. Especially when we talk about we just had shootings. We had shootings on Kman. Um, we had and I

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didn't even hear about the shooting because I've been at court all day about the young child that was shot in the bed today. Um, this morning I I I haven't had access to the news and TV. And so I just think at this time I don't want us just to be making ordinances to look like we being we're doing busy work. you know, we need enforcement of the ones that are there because I've worked with many of the businesses in my ward and some other ones where, you know, make sure you get that sign because they won't arrest if that sign's not there. And then there's other ordinances that people are lording around and curfews that we just need enforcement. We need enforcement. We also need parents to start parenting their children. We need that. I mean, parents can't just let your kids go out, cause and have it. So, there are some other issues that we have with within this and this to me is a duplicate, but I yield my time. I would like to see if um someone could call Chief Green. Uh Mr. Taylor,

1:38:05 – 1:38:390

I'm laughing because you said I yielded. I know I did, didn't I? If Mr. Taylor could please contact because I've got some questions how Chief Green would feel. Is this something that he needs? would this put more pressure on the police department? Um if he could come back cuz his was the first resolution. I now yield the floor. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else in the first round of discussion? Madam Chair. Um Councilman in the eighth w I would like to um express eighth ward. Oh, I'm sorry. So, um,

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yeah, I would like to hear from Chief Green on this as well, even though, um, I don't, and I don't think I'm going to support this just for the simple fact of is we have so many other pressing issues in the city, like why don't we start a special unit for shootings? Um, that seems to be more of a pressing issue. Uh, the last time that we put a special unit that the chief was in charge of was a neighborhood service officers in the blight department and drive around the city and see how good that's going. Um, blight is crazy. Y

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so we want to start another unit that the chief is in charge of

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but yet we don't we can't handle the capacity and the of the crimes that we have now and yet we want to zero in on certain violations of things instead of covering everything. So Miss Burns is right. We have an enforcement problem. We need more police. And I and I would like to hear from the chief like if this enforcement task is is going to be implemented, does that mean he's pulling in he's pulling police off the street during certain high peak times to handle this? we hiring people like I'd like to know the whole logistics of this to because to me that we have so many more pressing issues in in the police and the crime of this city that um if we don't start attacking it from the top down and and stop the the shootings like we're going to arrest somebody from for Lloyd ing, but you go down the street and you do a driveby and we can't find those people.

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Like it doesn't it doesn't make sense to me. And I think that um this is a distraction to for the real problem. And I'm not willing to sign on to to take uh police off the street that may be working on uh major crimes to enforce these laws that uh should be enforced. But you know, we have to work with what we have. And it doesn't make any sense that we're going to start a special task force for loitering and other nuisance ordinances when we can't even stop crime, major crime. And Madame Chair, through you to the city attorney. the city attorney. This the language on this um

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it says we are gonna petition separated separated this the chief for the city of Flint Police Department but it says the special unit shall be organized. So are we are we ordering him or are we petitioning him to start this uh through the chair? um you would be petitioning the police chief to do such. He is under the uh purview of the administration. Yes.

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So is the language this unit shall be organized? Is that inappropriate? Well, if your if your resolution passes and you petition him and it is uh voted on that it would be agreed upon um in in effect within the 30 days as per the resolution. Okay. Um, so yeah, I'd like to hear the chief even though I um I think his leadership is uh less than less than stellar. I I'm not going to uh put another thing under him that allow him to fail. So no. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Thank you. Is there anybody else in the first round of discussion? Madam Chair, Councilman in the first ward, I would like to express my full support for this resolution. And I had an opportunity to speak with the uh chief over the weekend who has expressed his full support of this resolution which is focused on enforcement enforcing the the um already ordinances and things that

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can we please pause the time. I would remind everyone in the chambers council included let's silence our cell phones. Thank you. Please start his time. I also would just like to add that the um task force will be one such an example with this task force will not only be the Flint police, it'll also require retired police officers, NS NSO officers and peer recovery coaches and youth, the community to be fully involved and engaged in enforcing this this the ordinances and things that they will be tackling. And with that, I'll yield. Is there anyone else in the first run of discussion?

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Yes, Madam Chair. Councilwoman in the fifth ward, you have the floor.

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Thank you. Um I I don't understand how the um NSOs are going to be working on this to help with this um task force and they can't even do their jobs as far as taking care of the blight in the um in the um community. So, how would they be able to deal with this? Um, and I have to agree with Councilwoman Burns and Councilman Feifer. This here does not address the root causes of what's going on in our community. And therefore, I will not be supporting this. I would like to hear from the um chief as far as this um resolution. I hell we need a special police unit um to deal with the gangs in the city. How about that?

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Thank you, Madam Chair. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak in the first round of discussion? Madame Chair, councilwoman in the second ward. Thank you. Um, so, um, just to my colleague in the fifth ward, we do have a gang task force and I I would think that that I think that she would know that being on council. She's she's yelling out during my time. Councilwoman Winfrey Carter, please stop yelling out. Go ahead.

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So, if she know that we need another one, I encourage her to form a relationship to get these things spearheaded and initiated. See, this is how we get positive change going. If we think something is deficient as elective representatives for our ward and also our city, it's up to us to engage with the proper personnel to make this happen. So, if we're a little lack in the gang area, how about you find out how they're lack, why they lack, and get on and get into it. You know, just like Kenneth Machet and I did with the fire safety initiative. However, um going back to this specific ordinance, it's very important. Um because this is important to the residents. Residents, they're talking about loitering. They don't feel safe when they go to certain establishments. This is what the residents said is a problem. And so, thank you, Councilman Elamine, for taking this on. I know it's been um a long time in the making. And um and just understanding the fact that, you know, loitering is a problem. It makes people not feel safe going to these businesses, you know. So getting all hands on deck and according to this resolution, this is not an ordinance. I want to say it again. This is an resolution, not an ordinance. And this is an this is a resolution to do all things necessary to engage this task force. So for my colleagues to shoot it down, I would like to encourage them to help build it up. What is lacking? What is deficient? what needs to happen so we can make this a good resolution so we can engage our residents in a positive way so we can listen to their concerns so we can solve their concerns. You know, I I've seen a lot of criticism but no activism. And so I want to again encourage my colleagues, let's not say what we won't vote for. Let's talk about how we can make this better and how we can make this happen.

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I know that conversation was had with the chief and he said that he was in support of this and so for that that is one of the reasons why I am in support. Not only is it a good idea, not only is it innovative, but the but the chief is on board. So I stand in support of this resolution. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the first round of discussion? Seeing as how there's no one else in the first round of discussion with anyone like the floor in the second round of discussion. Madam Chair, Councilwoman Burns.

1:48:02 – 1:49:240

Thank you. I want to be clear. The gang t Flint does not have its own specialized. It joins with others. Since 2020, I have asked for a comprehensive public safety plan with the specialized splint gang task force. And I've talked to chief about this as late as two weeks ago. It has to be specific. We have the biggest gang problem, the biggest one, and we have to have one that is just solely for Flint, but we don't have the um staffing. We just don't have it. And so when they're doing other things, the tactical unit or it used to be the the CAT team, whatever the name of that one was, we have to prioritize. So before I'mma worry about um loitering, gunshots, gun violence, children being shot in their beds, um drivebys, where's the opioid plan? The opioid plan should be a part of the specialized uh the comprehensive public safety plan. And so this is where Chief Green needs to be. We would be putting a burden. And I didn't hear Chief Chief Green was like, I need more people. He said that. So I don't know where he said that he got because I know they are stretched and these gentlemen back here should be out there.

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Thank you.

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They actually they actually work a special task force but they're here and so we put the pressure that they're in here. We do not have enough. So we may have something that sounds good for loitering but I mean we had 10 children shot last year. Those were the fatal fatally shot. That doesn't include the number of people who were shot. And so when we look at this and we're we're prioritizing loitering. He doesn't have the staff. And so do we put a burden that he shall it must be implemented. I'm not going to give him and he's not here. He's not here because clearly we're getting three different conversations from the first ward, second ward to the sixth ward because my conversation has been consistent. It has not changed as I work with families. I work with Michigan State Police and cooperative with Chief Green when it comes to public safety will be going to always will be. But prioritizing I just don't think that we have we have them here now which shows us we don't have enough officers because they are in tactical gear in our council chambers when they they don't want to be here. They want to be out there getting some some bad guys bad guys with felonies. They want to get those people who've been charged with domestic violence up off the street. They want to get the felons and the criminals who keep reaffending off the street. That's what they want to do.

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Not loitering. I give the floor. Councilman Feifer, you have the floor. Thank you. Um, this this resolution is a dist is a solid distraction. And if the chief was in char was in favor of this, he doesn't need a resolution from us, right? So why isn't it already being handled now?

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So you're mean to tell me, well, we never handled loitering and everything else because the council didn't pass a resolution saying it was a priority. Like, so it makes absolutely no sense. They're going to go out and going to tackle crime when they see it. To me, it's it's disappointing. Do Do we have to pass a resolution to say that we want a a a gunshot uh task force? No. Because it it doesn't make sense. They're going to go out and in and address the crime as they see it. To me, this is just nonsense. If the chief was in if he was in favor of this and he was like, "Oh, yeah, that's a good idea." he doesn't need this resolution. Like the attorney said that he's under the pre or under the uh the mayor in the administration. So this is complete garbage and a distraction. And you know, if anything, if anything, we need more police. And why isn't he before us and saying, "Okay, I need uh I want to hire 10 more police officers because I need to get our tactical team in our specialized unit out of this room for this meeting. And I need five officers because I want to tackle uh loitering or whatever else. And I need five more detectives for crime." when he hasn't been before us and asked for more money in years for hiring, but now he's in favor of this. So, he's got extra police officers. How does he have extra police officers? It doesn't make any sense. If he had extra police officers, we would have a retired gentleman back there as the as the

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council officer and not uh officers in full tactical. Now, I 100% will call out bad cops when I see them. I have disagreements with them everywhere else. But the police in the city of Flint need to be out doing their job, what they want to do, and taking care of the crime and the the big crime. to me and unless the the chief comes before us and says, "I've got five volunteers of of retired police officers and I need this funding and I want to tackle this because if we tackle this, then that leads to uh you know, small or less crime. If we tackle loitering, then do that." But he's not.

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Thank you. Anybody else in the second round of discussion? Yes, madam chair. Councilwoman in the fifth ward. Um, Madame Chair, through you to clerk Danahghue. Clerk Danahghue, where did this resolution um come from? Who who sent this resolution up? Did Chief Green send this up? The resolution was sent to me from the city attorney's office and it was at the request of the first ward councilman.

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Oh. So the first word councilman is [Music] So the first word councilman sent this resolution um he put this resolution on the floor. That's interesting. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you. Anybody else in the second round of discussion? Madam Chair, Councilwoman in the second ward.

1:55:24 – 1:55:490

Thank you. I wholeheartedly agree with my colleagues in the sixth and the eighth ward. The officers don't want to be here. The officers should not be here. I am totally on board. However, the officers are here because of rowdy behavior of audience members. When you have people brandishing weapons,

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please pause her time. I'm going to ask that the audience please refrain from yelling out. Thank you. Go ahead and start her time when we have people brandishing weapons in the council chambers. Hand gone handguns being drawn during the meeting. People running up to the desk with and approaching of violent me excuse me, council members in a violent fashion. when we have things like um excuse me um we need pause our time. Yes. So um I believe that was Carol Macintosh yelling out insurrectionist. So our point of order what is your point of order? She has to have decorum calling people insurrectionist.

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That's actually not what she said. Your point of order is invalid. She said I believe that is her yelling out insurrectionist. She didn't call her one. She said what she yelled out. Continue. All right. So, Miss Macintosh, please stop yelling out her. Go ahead. That wasn't me. That wasn't her. All right. My apologies. Yeah, it was. Whoever's in that corner, stop yelling out. Yeah.

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And so, the point is, we don't want them here. We want them on the streets solving big crime. But when you have chaos and we're making national news for the chaos that people are condoning and saying this is what it looks like democracy looks like in our chambers when people throughout the city are saying I'm scared to come here because of the foolery that takes place. We need those gentlemen back here to make sure that we're safe. when we have people consistently violating the rules charter as well as council as well as Roberts as we try to enforce them because this is a legislative chambers we need those officers here to enforce safety to enforce order unfortunately with um again the corner madam chair please pause the time I'm going to ask that you all over in that corner stop yelling out.

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Go ahead.

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Thank you. And so I mean that's our point. That's why we have officers here. So when people that are grown can't maintain themselves, we call them to order and we put them out. And so that is what we unfortunately have to do when we can just be speaking exclusively to this resolution to move forward. But going back to this, I hear again our colleagues talk about what we need, what needs to happen. We need a comprehensive safety plan first. That'll be great. Now, if you see when we found out that we needed a comprehensive plan for council chambers, immediately we got on that, made that happen. If we're serious about having these things come to fruition, we will work with all parties. We will work with all parties to make it happen. Let's stop demanding what needs to happen per se and let's get the ball rolling for information.

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Please pause her time. Thank you. What is your request? Thank you, Madam Chair. Does the speaker know I am working with uh Chief Green with that for your information? So, that is an improper request because that's not going to help you with your next vote. Go ahead.

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Okay. Well, I definitely appreciate that information. So, when you and Chief Ring bring that up, I'll definitely support that when it happens. But what did happen was the councilman in the first ward, he worked with them too on this ordinance right here. So I'm going to support that, especially since he did it first. So I'm looking forward to supporting what you bring. And tonight, I'm going to support what Councilman Elamine bring. And so as our defeated first candidate walks out the door, I just want to say that I support you, Councilman Elamine, on this um resolution. Thank you.

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Well, she lives in the first war. Is there anyone else who would like to speak during the second round of discussion? Is there anyone else who would like to speak during the second round of discussion? Seeing as how there is no one else who would like to speak during the second round of discussion, I will go ahead and take some time. Um so basically this resolution, this is an enforcement resolution. Um it literally says establishment for special police unit enforcement of loitering and other um nuisance ordinances. One of the things that we often see when people loiter that it does end up um in other altercations that it can end in gun violence. A lot of the time um during uh COVID and sometime thereafter we often find that there were a lot of violent instances that occurred due to people loitering. I know that Chief Green is in fact in favor of this resolution. I believe he came to council today to speak to this resolution and him being in favor of the resolution. Um I believe this resolution was crafted um working with the chief, having conversation with the chief and the chief being aware of what would be asked of and required from several different um branches in his department. And so I am going to support it because the chief is in support of it. Worked on it as well. And again, this is a resolution speaking to enforcement. Roll call, madame clerk, for the uh vote to send resolution 2550303-t, which is the establishment of a special police unit enforcement of loitering and other nuisances nuisance ordinances to council.

2:01:24 – 2:01:500

Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Murphy Carter, no. Miss Burns, no. Miss Mashette, yes. Mr. Feifer, no. Mr. Jarrett, no. Mr. Alamine, yes. The vote is five, yes, four no.

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The vote is 5, 4. Resolution 2550303-t which is the establishment special police unit enforcement of loitering and other nuisance ordinances has been sent to council. Moving on to resolution 25317-t which is the charitable gaming license for crimes stopppers of Flint and Jennese County. What is the pleasure of the body? Madam Chair, councilwoman in the second ward.

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I move to send this resolution to council. There's a motion to send this resolution to council made by the councilwoman in the second ward. Is there support? Moved and properly supported by the councilman in the first ward. Um f first round of discussion. Councilman in the ninth ward. You separated. Would you like the floor? Uh yeah, madam chair. Is there someone from Crimestoppers or that organization speak to this? Is there someone present to speak to this? Madame clerk, are you able to speak to this? Uh, no. This request was just sent to me. Um, so I'm not Okay. I don't have anyone from the organization.

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In part, I'm also wondering why this did bypass committee um and just comes directly to special affairs. So, um, as it is presented, I'm sorry. Please. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Madam Clerk. Um, do you Mr. Jared? I do know that they have an event coming up at the end of this week and I believe that they have gone through the process um with the Michigan Lottery, but this was the last step and I I don't think they realized they had to have that before the event, but I believe it's for an event that's scheduled for this Friday, I believe. So, it is in special affairs because it is due this Friday,

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correct?

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Thank you. Go ahead, Councilman in Ninth Ward. So am I to understand through you uh chair to the clerk am I to understand they did not know the process is that what is that what you are communicating? I believe that they this just speaking briefly like I said to the person that requested it that going through the part with the Michigan Lottery Commission that they didn't realize that this um local um the local resolution had to be done before the event. So I think that they believe that what they had already done their request is still in the process with Michigan lottery but this has to be done in conjunction with that.

2:04:32 – 2:04:560

And do you know uh madame clerk if there was a request that someone come and speak to uh the the event and such that they are looking to put forth that I do not know. I just spoke briefly to that person when I before I drafted the resolution.

2:04:52 – 2:05:380

Okay. Um, like I say, my my my concern and questions, yes, stem from the fact that a resolution bypassing committee and showing up actually the same day that the the resolution is written is is concerning to me and something otherwise that I um on principle would push would and will push back against. Um, so I I'm at this point I'm going to yield the remainder of my time.

2:05:35 – 2:06:060

Thank you. Anybody else in the first round of discussion? Councilman in the eighth ward. Um, through you to the clerk. Madame clerk, what uh what exactly are they doing like a 50/50 or is like how are they what is the actual thing that they are doing that they need that request this?

2:06:02 – 2:06:280

Just one moment. Can we pause this time just while I look up the

2:06:24 – 2:07:150

the email that was sent to me? Okay. The the information that was sent to me, it doesn't say specifically. It just says a raffle or a bingo raffle or bingo license.

2:07:16 – 2:07:390

Thank you, Madam Cler. I yield. Thank you. Anybody else in the first round of discussion? Anybody in the second round of discussion? Councilwoman Winardo, you have the floor in the second round of discussion. I was trying to get you for the first round of Right. The sentence was already done, but you do have the floor now.

2:07:35 – 2:09:330

Yeah. Um, I I do have to agree with the council person in the ninth ward, uh, Councilman Jared, as far as things showing up on the, um, special affairs agenda and we did not go over the um, resolution in committees. However, I believe that when organizations come to us, because I don't even understand why why they need to come to us because basically really all they're doing is maybe um selling raffle tickets or something like that. Um, I will I will say that I will go ahead and um vote for this, but there are some other items on this agenda that I feel like we need to discuss in committees. We cannot continue to circumvent the process. things are um special affairs is not a a a dumping ground for resolutions. We we got resolutions. We have appointments on here. We we got resol a resolution for office supplies for uh uh street sweepers that we didn't even discuss in um committees. So, I will not be supporting those um resolutions to move to council. I just I just can't. We need to we need to stop circumventing the process as far as um everything goes to committees first and then um and then if we need further

2:09:31 – 2:09:530

information, then we'll send it to special affairs. That's what special affairs is designed for. So, um, thank you, Madam Chair. I just needed to put that on the table. Thank you. Is there anybody else in the second round of discussion, Madam Chair? If I could just add for the record. Go ahead, Madam Clerk.

2:09:52 – 2:10:340

I just want to make sure that council understands. Um, you know, obviously you want it to come to committees, but these charitable gaming license resolutions when they come before council, what the council is doing is recognizing the organization is operating in the city as a nonprofit. You are not approving the license or anything, the the approving them for the raffle or anything like that. You're just saying that this organization is a nonprofit that operates within the city of Flint and it's just a formality that the state requires for them to get a license from the state. Yeah, it's the law. Go ahead, councilwoman in the second ward.

2:10:31 – 2:11:530

Thank you so much and thank you so much, Madam Clerk. Um, that was a big point of what I wanted to make. Um, first I want to say though that this is committee. This is a committee for us to discuss things. So this is a committee. This isn't council. Special affairs the committee before council. So this is a place where we come and we can also bring on resolutions. How do we know? Because our colleagues brought up the resolution to suspend confident during committee. So it didn't go through government op legislative anything like that. It came straight to special affairs. So now I will not stop it because it's true. And so what we will do is we're going to go and say that we believe everything should go through the Wednesday committees, stand on it, and do just that. But as of right now, this is a process that this body has used and our colleagues has used as well. Going back to what the city clerk said, it's the law. The law said that we must do that. So being on this body since 2021, I saw several of these come before us. No, we're not approving their fundraiser, but we're doing our portion, so they may be approved by the state. Um, you anyone I mean,

2:11:52 – 2:12:370

councilwoman, please. Thank you. Just anyway, so we want to make sure that we're in compliance with the law. We want to make sure that we are doing things um in accordance. So I would just like to um I would like to implore my colleagues to less stay focused. Thank you madam chair councilwoman in the sixth board. Thank you um through you to the city clerk. Um city clerk. So this is time sensitive. That's correct. Pardon me. That's correct. Okay. And you said what was when did they they have an event coming up when? Friday.

2:12:34 – 2:13:060

Oh, and today so four days. Correct. Okay. So, this is time since then. Some of these things are not and we our rules do speak to that. Um I think that when we talk about one of the things that we talked about which was tone and civility in at the conference and the tone really sets the meeting and how the chambers are

2:13:02 – 2:13:580

and we need to be conscious of the tone that is used. So uh with this uh Crimestoppers does some great work. Crimestoppers. There's some absolutely great work. Um I don't know why this was held up. Um we do need to start like some of these other ones that are appointments are I don't think those are timesensitive at all. But I I think that um some of us need to do a lot more reading so that we have some understanding. But this one because crime stoppers with Julie Lopez, you know, she has and I think the last time I talked to her, it was like 150 that were from Flint with unsolved homicides, which is huge. That That's a lot. So, I will be uh supporting this. I yield the floor. Thank you.

2:13:55 – 2:14:370

Thank you. Anybody else in the second round of discussion? Seeing as how there's no one else, this is the roll call vote to send resolution 2550317-t charitable gaming license crimes stopppers of Flint and Jennese County to council. Roll call. Madame Clerk, Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter, yes. Miss Burns, yes. Miss Mich, yes. Mr. Feifer, yes. Mr. Jarrett, no. Mr. Alamine, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. The vote is 8 yes, one no.

2:14:32 – 2:15:030

The vote is 8 yes, one no. Resolution 2550317-t charitable gaming licensed crimes stopppers Flint in Jese County has been sent to council. Moving on to resolution 2550323-T, which is the Office Depot office supplies fiscal year 2025. What is the pleasure of the body? Madame Chair, councilwoman in the fourth ward. Motion to send to councel.

2:15:00 – 2:15:180

There's been a motion to send to council by the council woman in the fourth ward. Is there support? Moved and properly supported by the councilman in the first ward. Uh Councilwoman Winfrey Carter, you separated it. You have the floor.

2:15:14 – 2:16:480

Yes, Madame Chair. All I want to say is that um I will not support moving this to council because this did not go through um committees. I would think that um we have a deadline and the deadline is the Thursday before committee committee meetings and I would think that the administration would get all resolutions in on time. Um, and like I said, special affairs is designed to get any um information that we need to further um help us make our decision to move the resolution to council. Special affairs is not a dumping ground to just dump resolutions there and they have not they have not gone through the process of being vetted. So I will not I will not be voting um to send this to council. If we can send it back to um committee then I would um do so. But um I yield the floor for my other colleagues. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the first round of discussion?

2:16:47 – 2:17:320

Madam Chair, councilwoman in the sixth award to you to Clyde Edwards. Mr. Edwards, would you please join us at the lect turn? So I don't need Lauren. I believe her supervisor asked her to come as well, but I didn't. It's fine. I'm permitting her to come. It's not your time. It's fine. He's bringing her with you. She might have the question. She might have the answer. Point of order. I get to choose who I have come. That's not how this works. People approach the leg term based on the chair, not a back and forth. Excuse me. No, it's my time. What are you talking about? You don't get to keep taking the floor. I didn't take the floor. You called a point of order and I'm ruling you out of order.

2:17:30 – 2:18:030

Excuse me. Thank you. It's the clock is ticking. Nope. Pause the time. So, but we're not going to keep doing because you do this every week. When you don't like a ruling, you sit and you want to argue and go back and forth with the chair. The rules state that the chair can say who comes to the leg turn. Her supervisor asked her to come as well. She doesn't need to be greeted with an attitude from you when her supervisor asked her to do something. Obviously, if he told her to come, she has an answer as well. What is your point? My point of order is you can't take the floor. 12th.

2:18:01 – 2:18:340

I'm not taking the point. I'm not taking the floor. You called a point of order. I told you why your point of order was out of order. I need point of order. I told you why your point of order was out of order. What's your point of order, Miss Priestley? Our council rules say that the the chair can rule on orders and as well as during the discussion take control of that. So, she is out of order. We do supersede. Our council rules supersede Robert's rules. She is out of order. She's been told she's out of order. Anyways, are are you done?

2:18:40 – 2:19:180

Right one, baby. Right one. As I was stating, her supervisor asked her to come to the leg turn with him. And so, if her supervisor asked her to come, she doesn't need to be met with rudeness from counsel as she's trying to do her job. And so, Mr. Edwards, if you need her at the leg turn, she is free to join you at the leg turn because that is what the chair is ruling. Lauren, please join him at the leg turn. Please, please proceed with her time. Uh, Mr. Edwards, you can go have a seat. I'm done. Thank you.

2:19:16 – 2:19:360

All right. Is there anybody else in the first round of discussion? Is there She's yielded the floor. Is there anybody else in the first round of discussion? Councilman in the eighth ward. Did you need them? Mr. Edwards, Lauren, um Mr. Mr. Feifer would like to speak with you. Thank you. Go ahead.

2:19:37 – 2:20:180

So, um I I don't have a problem with this order or with this resolution. I guess let me let me take that back. I have a small problem and that's the last paragraph where it says the purchasing division has the discretion to spend an additional amount of no more than 10% of the annual requested amount um for Office Depot. I don't know that I've ever seen that before where

2:20:19 – 2:20:410

we've authorized um it sir that's fine RL RL please stop yelling out did we go over last year Miss Rowley did we go over any spending last year

2:20:39 – 2:21:200

generally no last year we did not because collectively a lot of departments come in under with supplies so we can balance that out. Um but in the time being if a specific department went over by $100, right, we don't want to depend on the other departments to come in under by the end of the year to do the contingency. But since 2022, we have asked for an additional percentage there. But we it's just a cushion just in case sometimes at the end of the year before we shut those PO off POS off someone needs paper whatnot to get them from June till September.

2:21:17 – 2:22:010

Are the all of these dollar amounts the exact of what was budgeted? You mean like per that particular GL number? Yes. Um these are just it it depends. It's a supply account. So it's not necessarily an office supply account. It would be that division. Say that again. It would be their supply account. So not necessarily their specific. It depends on what department has how many general ledger numbers they have. This is for supplies, not necessarily office supply GL, if that makes sense. So supplies could mean

2:21:59 – 2:22:410

Can you define exactly what this would be purchasing? is just paper, paper clips, pens, anything you can like a general office supply, toner, expo markers, paper, binders, staplers, that general. So, not necessarily, no office equipment, nothing like that, right? This is just consumables. Sometimes it's like like Clyde said like a printer maybe, but we have the Xerox count uh account too for like the larger size copy machines. But if someone has like a smaller printer and just to re re um you've had this extra 10% since 2022,

2:22:39 – 2:23:240

we had a it this was in FY22 and FY23 we did a 5% and then since 24 and 25 we did 10. Granted, we never dipped into that 10 at that point. It's just, to be completely honest, an easy number to put in as a percentage for math purposes. Off the top of your head, do you know what we spent last year on on Last year? You approved 103550, but we did come in under that. I would have to do the math because there's so many different open purchase orders for that. Every single GL number you have here is a different purchase order. So that some of them had 80 left and 10 left and a 100 left. So I would have to look at that completely.

2:23:22 – 2:23:590

So even though we increased 5% overall in the resolution dollar value, you still need an additional 10%. Well, it just it base what they need each year, what each department needs each year. Like in FY24, the total was 134,000 citywide. So this is actually less than it was back even in FY22 was $112,850. So uh in the last 45 seconds, do you know why the fire department uses the most amount of paper?

2:23:57 – 2:24:330

Because they wanted a particular type like these chairs came from Office Depot and I believe they wanted like a conference table or something for a particular office. So they budgeted in for that to be utilized at Office Depot. Okay. Um Okay, I yield. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anybody else in the first round of discussion? Anybody in the second round of discussion? Chair. Councilwoman Burns, you have the floor.

2:24:32 – 2:25:580

Thank you. So, I want to state because it states rule 28.6. It says council members may request doesn't say the chair. Council members may request from the presiding chair the opportunity to ask questions of staff or others during debate or any other agenda item. Any such questions in responses shall count against the council members allowed time. It doesn't state that the chair gets to have someone stand up there. It doesn't do it. It doesn't even state that the administrator or the city staff. It doesn't state that. That's not what rule 28.6 states. My question was simply Mr. Edwards for you was that um these are is there a reason why we're getting this this at this time and this is actually so for to create transparency this is all the departments because I don't think a lot of people know that um the clerk's office the police department uh parks uh my question these are all so at $ 110,000 this is every department Um every department so department supplies CD community CDBG office $7,000 is that under is Mr. Smith here. Is that um the planning? Who's in that office?

2:25:59 – 2:26:400

Which office? I'm sorry. I didn't the supplies for CED CDBG office. Is that the one where um Oh, that's part of Yeah, that's part of planning and development. Who's who's in Who's over that department now? Is that vacant? The the director's position is Yes. It's currently vacant. The director and deputy director. Do we have a deputy director? We have a we we have an interim or acting deputy director. That's Rod Slaughter. Oh, so we have we have an acting deputy director for that department. That's correct. No, not for the department for just this position that was held by that's on here category. All right.

2:26:38 – 2:27:130

Okay. And then I have one other question. The it was on here for ARPA, I believe. Was it the ARPA that was on here? Waterfleet clerks. Thank you. Please. No, I I don't see that. Yeah, I don't see. I was looking at something else. Okay. And so is this time sensitive? It was an oversight. Um Oh, okay.

2:27:11 – 2:27:540

Yeah. If you look on the if you look at the staff reviews, some of the staff reviews were completed prior to the last council meeting. So, it was just an oversight in terms of its submission. So, when recognized by the administration that it was oversight, we worked to try to get it on this. Yes. To try to get We're going to get the emails to everybody out of toner this year. I'm sorry. Thank you. Anybody else in the second round of discussion? Councilwoman in the second ward, you have the floor. Thank you. Um, thank you. Um, yeah, I don't need you. Yes. So, thank you so much for coming and for your service.

2:27:51 – 2:28:360

Um, so just want to bring a little clarity um to the council rule as we move forward. According to rule 27.6, Six, it states that only the presiding officer may call an individual up to the podium or lectern to answer any questions. Other council members will have to petition the presiding officer to make this request. So what that rule states is that the other council members again direct quote would have to petition the presiding officer to make a request. So we are too as members of this body to make a request to the person chairing the meeting. 27.4 which is the 27.4 is the rule but yeah the rule

2:28:34 – 2:29:120

okay well thank well thank not a problem but it's in there 27.4 I'll take it so I'll go ahead pause our time so the rule you're referring to is 27.4 for inner rules and it says exactly what you said. Only the chair may call an individual up to speak or answer questions. Other council members must petition the presiding officer to make this request. Um just add a little razledazzle. 28.1 says every council member and every person granted the privilege of speaking to the city council or on any matter she'll address all remarks to the chair. So I get what you're saying where you're going with that. The rule was the rule. It's fine if people want to read other rules, but the rule is still the rule. The rule is the rule. Whether

2:29:10 – 2:29:550

go ahead and start Yeah. Thank you so much. So, um, according to mine, I have mine was updated what on tw February 2023. So, I'll make sure to get the updated version from the clerk, but as we hold them up, Miss Burns, you make sure that you follow those. Thank you. You make sure you do, too. All righty. So, Miss Burns, you do not have the floor. So this is the roll call vote for resolution 2550323-t which is office depot office supplies fiscal year 2025 to send to council. Roll call. Madame clerk. Miss Priestley. Yes. Miss Winfrey Carter. No. Miss Burns. Yes. Miss Mashette. Yes.

2:29:54 – 2:30:390

Mr. Feifer. Yes. Mr. Jarrett. No. Mr. Alamine. Yes, Dr. Lewis. Yes, Miss Johnson. Yes. Vote is five yes, two no. I'm sorry, seven yes, two no. The vote is 7 yes to no. Resolution 2550323-t which is the office depot office supplies fiscal year 2025 has been sent to council. Uh we're moving on to resolution 2550326-T which is the contract for best equipment company. Um, madame clerk, if you could please go ahead and just read the corrected u what the corrected resolution for this, please.

2:30:36 – 2:31:450

So, you should have in front of you a a new resolution. Um, so basically the administration is uh instead of purchasing three street sweepers and one leaf, they are instead purchasing one street sweeper and one leaf back. So you can amend the original resolution to the version that you have in front of you. It pretty much reads the same outside of the dollar amounts um and the number obviously for the street sweepers. Also, I sent um as a supplemental information um to all of you by email the sales proposal. Um, so they this resolution did have another sales proposal and again it reads the same pretty much as the other one except for it only lists the one uh street sweeper. So I do have a copy of that proposal if any of you want to see that. So yeah, I'm asking you to amend it to this version and that should uh suffice.

2:31:44 – 2:32:290

Madam Chair, councilwoman in the fourth ward. Um I guess first thing we have to do is um mo make a motion to send to council 2550326 and then amend it. So okay there's a motion to send resolution 2550326-T to council. Is there support? Moved and properly supported by the councilman in the first ward. Councilwoman in the fourth ward. Go ahead. Madam chair. Go ahead. I make a motion to amend 2550326 to the um the dollar amount of $917,14 as on the resolution before us and make that the point one.

2:32:27 – 2:32:540

Is there support? It's been mo moved and properly supported. Is there wait is there more language that needs to be changed because right now she just changed the dollar amount without changing I said to the to the one that has that amount the right but I think we need to change the equipment amount too. I I thought I said to the what is on before us. You just said the dollar amount. So you wanted what do you want to do? Go ahead.

2:32:51 – 2:33:230

Oh the resolution the the intent of the motion was to amend this the one before in our hands to appoint one. Was it already read out loud for the record by the clerk? I just want to make sure it was already read out loud for the record. It was okay. So, it was already read out loud. So, your motion is to um do 2550326.1 to the new amended to the wording that was read out live by the city clerk. Correct. Correct. Okay. Is there support?

2:33:21 – 2:34:060

Moved and properly supported by the councilman in the first ward. Roll call, madame clerk. This is the V vote to amend it to 0.1. Miss Winfrey Carter, no. Miss Burns, no. Miss Mash, yes. Mr. Feifer, yes. Mr. Jarrett, yes. Mr. Alamine, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Brie, yes. The vote is seven yes. Two no. Seven. Yes. Two no. So it has been amended to the 0.1. Moving on to resolution 25503 to6.1. What is the pleasure of the body? Madam chair.

2:34:05 – 2:34:500

Councilwoman Priestley. Motion to send it to council. There's been a motion to send this resolution to council. By councilwoman Priestley. Is there support? Moved and properly supported by councilman in the first ward. Is there discussion in the first round of discussion? Is there discussion in the second round of discussion? Roll call. Madame clerk for resolution 2550326.1. Miss Burns, no. Miss, yes. Mr. Feifer, yes. Mr. Jarrett, no. Mr. Alamine, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Brie, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter,

2:34:49 – 2:35:320

no. The vote is six yes, three no. The vote is 6 yes, three no. Resolution 2550326-T, which is the contract for best equipment, is being sent to council. Moving on to appointment um 2550318-T, which is the appointment to the local officer compensation commission. Um Casey Lester, what is the pleasure of the body? Madam Chair, Councilwoman Priestley. Send to councel. There's been a motion to send to council. Is there support? moved and properly supported by the councilman in the first ward. Is there discussion? Um, Councilwoman Winfrey Carter, go ahead. You have the floor.

2:35:29 – 2:36:110

Thank you, Madam Chair. And I'm just going to say this for all of the appointments. I will not be voting on any of the appointments. I believe that all appointments should go through committee. This is not an emergency for these appointments. Um, and that's what I'm going to say for each of the appointments. It's not that I don't want these people in these seats. However, I think we should not circumvent the process of committees. Thank you.

2:36:09 – 2:36:510

Thank you. Is there anyone else in the first round of discussion? Councilman in the eighth ward. Um, through you to the clerk. Madam clerk, is there a uh local officer compensation meeting scheduled anytime soon? No, I will be scheduling the meeting once the body is um once the members have been appointed. Right now we have three members whose terms have expired. Okay, these three and there is um it is time sensitive. These appointments need to be made before October 1st because they have to meet this year, right? Yes. Okay.

2:36:49 – 2:37:150

And so once um the body has been constituted, I will be scheduling that meeting. She literally asked why they were here. Thank you. Anybody else in the first round of discussion? Madam Chair, Councilwoman Priestley. Um through you to the to the clerk. Did you say that these appointments have to be made by October 1st? Yes, that's correct. Thank you. That's not fair. She didn't know that.

2:37:13 – 2:37:520

Anybody else in the first round of discussion? Anybody in the second round of discussion? Seeing as how there's no one else in the second round of discussion, this is the roll call vote for appointment 2550318- which is the appointment to the local office compensation committee. Uh Casey Lester, roll call. Madame clerk. Miss Michette. Yes. Mr. Piper, yes. Mr. Jarrett, no. Mr. Mr. Alamine, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter, no. Miss Burns, yes.

2:37:49 – 2:38:250

The vote is seven yes, two no. The vote is seven yes, two no. Um, appointment 2550318-t has been moved to council. Moving on to appointment uh 2550319-T, which is the appointment to the local officer compensation commission. Sharon P. Reeves. What is the pleasure of the body? Madam Chair, Councilwoman in the six. I want to take all of these. We can just group them in one. They're all going to be the same. Was it 2532? So 25319 25320. That is correct.

2:38:21 – 2:39:030

Okay. Um there is a motion on the floor to send 25319 and 25320-t which so 319 is the appointment to the local officer compensation commission of Sharon P. Reeves. 2550320 is the appointment to the local officer compensation commission. Asa Zakaro um to council. Is there a second? It's been moved and properly supported by the council woman in the fourth ward. Um councilwoman Winfrey Carter, you did separate them. Do you have a discussion? No, you're good. Is there any discussion in the first round? Madam Chair, Councilwoman in the sixth award.

2:39:01 – 2:39:360

Um madam shoot to madam clerk. Is there a reason why we are getting these so late? They have a meeting. It's time sensitive. And is there a reason why we're getting them so late? I can't speak to that. Um, these are mayoral appointments and these are all the mayor's appointments, correct? Correct. Yeah. And um, yeah. So, I can't really speak to that. Is there anyone I'm sorry.

2:39:35 – 2:40:120

I I yield the floor. Is there anyone else in the first round of discussion? Anyone in the second round of discussion? Seeing as how there's no one in the second round of discussion, this is the roll call vote to send appointments 2550319 and 25320 to council. Roll call. Madame Clerk. Mr. Feifer? Yes. Mr. Jarrett? No. Mr. Alamine? Yes. Dr. Lewis? Yes. Miss Johnson? Yes. Miss Priestley? Yes. Miss Winfrey Carter? No. Miss Burns, yes. Miss McH, yes. The vote is seven yes, two no.

2:40:10 – 2:40:510

The vote is seven yes, two no. Resolutions 25, excuse me, appointments 2550319-T and 2550320-D have been sent to council. Moving on to appointment 2550321-T, which is the reappoint to the Hurley board of hospital managers, Marcia L. Wesley. What is the pleasure of the body? Madame Chair, councilwoman in the fifth ward. Um, thank you, Madam Chair. Also, with with the fact that I just I just Oh, I'm sorry. I just needed a motion to like send counselor first. Yeah. Yep.

2:40:49 – 2:41:120

Well, Madam Chair, I can make the motion to send it to council. However, I'm making that motion um just so that we can go into discussion. Got it. Is there is there support? support moved and properly supported by the council woman in the fourth ward. Councilwoman Wic Carter, you have the floor.

2:41:08 – 2:42:330

Okay, Madame Chair, um although I will not be voting on the two um reappointments for the Hurly board tonight because I think that everything should go through committee. Um, I also would like a list um for the Hurley board through Madame Chair, through you to clerk um Donahghue. I think we need a list um for the Hurly board of all the appointments um who live in the city who do not live in the city you know because that board is um designed whereas it has you know how so many um hospital um doctors or and or workers. So, we need a list as far as um what should be how many people should serve and how many should serve as as city residents, how many um physicians should should be on the um committee and all of that. If we can get that. Thank you, Madam Chair. I yield.

2:42:31 – 2:43:160

Okay. Is there anybody else in the first round of discussion? Yes. Dennis, excuse me, Councilman Feifer, you have the floor. Um, the next two resolutions for Hurly Board. Um, at this time, I will not be supporting uh for the simple fact of it's been a long precedent of mine that I won't support if they don't have uh resumes. And even though that they've been approved and they're reappoints and uh our predecessors approved them, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have oversight and review their qualifications. So, at this time, uh I'm not ready to support uh this resolution nor the second one. So, I'm just putting that on the record now. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else in the first round of discussion?

2:43:150

Madam Chair,

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councilwoman in the sixth ward, you have the floor. Thank you to you to the city clerk. Um these probably aren't time sensitive because we have people serving who are in limbo and um through um so these two are already serving. We know that people can be in limbo forever for this board. This board is not we don't we do not appoint anyone to this board. This is not our board that we can appoint anyone to. Um and these two are not timesensitive. And madam chair, where did you get these? I mean madam you me to the clerk. When did you get these?

2:44:08 – 2:44:530

Um these came from the administration. When did you get them? Um I'd have to check, but I think it was sometime Thursday. It was before the deadline. It was before the meeting deadline. Okay. We haven't been accepting any items after the meeting deadline and we don't have um prior even their resumes and they're not here today. Um I don't like to pull the resumes from previous resolutions only because there could be some changes since so they didn't give a updated one. No, that whatever you what you have is what I received. So is it customary that uh when people are apply to boards that we do get a resume?

2:44:51 – 2:45:350

Um most often because that's what you have asked for with the and has it been customary through the years and the precedence has been set that they are either here or here and have a resume um per council's request generally. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anybody else in the first round of discussion? Anybody in the second round of discussion? Councilman in the eighth ward. So, um, the councilman in the ninth ward just pointed out that this says reappoint, but it says replacing Thomas James. So, um, can be both. Madame chair, through you to the clerk.

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Is this a reappoint or is this replacing Thomas James? Um, again, this is how it was presented to me. I just noticed that in the title. I don't see it mentioned anywhere in um in the uh resolution. And um Miss Wesley has been on the board since 2020. So, it's entirely possible that that was the original from her original term. I don't know.

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Oh, that's actual resolution. I saw that in there. Um, I mean, is the title resolution? So, is Thomas James not a member on the board? She probably copied it from the old resolution. She didn't do it. She got from the No. Oh, maybe they copy. I'm looking at the board. Thank you. I um Okay. So, Madame Clerk, you stated that she has been on the board.

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Yes. Um Miss Wesley has been on the Hurley board since 2020. You said 2020, correct? So, she would not be replacing whoever this Mr. James person is. I believe so. I think that's just a typo. Is there something that we need to do to this resolution? Um because the body does not mention that at all. Mhm. Um at this time, you can approve it and then we would just um administratively just take that off because it's not in the result at all. All right. So you said to um if this is approved that that it just can be removed administratively. Correct.

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Okay. Is there anyone else in the second round of discussion? Madame chair. Councilwoman in the second ward. Thank you. So um because this is mayorial appointments and he's charged to appoint the people to this body, I'm going to go ahead and support that. And also I also want to just encourage other colleagues. Um well first I want to say madame clerk um could you please through you? There we go. Excuse me madam chair. Um to the clerk

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I would like to um to get a report of all boards. So um not just the hurly board but all of our boards because I I'm quite certain that we have a lot of vacancies including the human relations commission. Um we have just a lot of vacancies. So, if you could add all of the boards to that so we all can fill those important seats, uh, I'll definitely appreciate that. So, we know where we stand. Um, because as we see that the mayor is responsible for these appointments, we have some appointments, too. So, we want to make sure that um that we are again doing our part as the mayor does his. Thank you.

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Is that you yielding? Okay. Is there anybody else in the second round of discussion? Seeing as how there's no one else in the second round of discussion, this is the roll call vote to send appointment321-T, which is the reappointment to the Hurly Board of Hospital Managers, Marcia L. Wesley, to council. Roll call. Madame Clerk. Mr. Jarrett? No. Mr. Alaming? Yes. Dr. Lewis? Yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter, no. Miss Burns, no. Miss Mashette, yes. Mr. Feifer,

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no. The vote is five yes, four no. Vote is five yes, four no. Uh, appointment 2550321-T, which is a reappointment to the Hurly Board of Hospital Managers, Marsha L Wesley, has been sent to council. Moving on to resolution um which is our final resolution is appointment 2550322-T which is the reappointment to the Hurley board of hospital managers Jesse Collins. What is the pleasure of the body? Madam Chair, councilwoman in the fourth ward. Motion to send to council. There's been a motion to send to councel by the councilwoman in the fourth ward. Is there support?

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Moved and properly supported by the councilman in the first ward. Is there discussion in the first round? Councilwoman Murphy Carter. Madame Chair, um like I said before, I will not vote on um sending any appointments to council because they did not go through committees first. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else in the uh first round of discussion? Councilman in the eighth ward.

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So once again, I won't be supporting this because there's no resume. Um, and I will not put my vote and I, you know, we have oversight and we have the checks and balances and I will not put a yes vote behind someone I know nothing about. So, uh, I'm a no on this one. Thank you. Thank you. Is there any more discussion in the first round? Is there any discussion in the second round? Seeing as how there's no discussion in the second round, this is the roll call vote to send resolution 2550322-T, which is the reappointment to the Hurly Board of Hospital Managers, Jesse Collins, to council. Roll call, Madame Clerk. Mr. Alamine, yes.

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Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter, no. Miss Burns, no. Miss Mash, yes. Mr. Mr. Feifer, no. Mr. Jarrett, no. The vote is 5 yes, four no. The vote is 5 yes, 0 no. Resolution 2550322-T, which is the reappointment of the Hurley Board of Hospital. I'm sorry, what was that? Can Can you restate the count, please? Five yes, four no. Okay, thank God.

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Yep. Resolution 2550322-T, which is the reappointment to the Hurley Board of Hospital Managers, Jesse Collins, has been sent to council. It is now time for the special order of discussion item. There's a motion to adjurnn. Is there support? He withdrew. He withdrew it. He already withdrew it.

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There's a special order discussion item special order council member report out for the Michigan Municipal League. Uh the MML convention 2025, the 30 minute special order to allow the following council members 5 minutes each to discuss or provide reports concerning the 2025 Michigan Municipal League conference. This is just a report out on um what how training dollars were spent, how taxpayers dollars were spent, and how council who all went to training, what they did during training. Councilwoman um Johnson, you have five minutes if you so choose. Well, civility in your community, should we agree or disagree? During this conversation section, I gained a deeper understanding of how civility, ethics, and strong leadership.

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Oh. Oh. Can you pull your mic closer to your face, please? They can't hear it. [Music]

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Civility in your community, should we agree to disagree? During this convention section, I gain a deeper understanding of how civility, ethics, and strong leadership are established to encourage a respectful and effective working environment in local government. I learned how incivility can damage public trust, increase stress amongst officials, and hinder the council ability to function effectively. Moving forward, I plan to engage with my colleagues through active listening, respectful dialogue, even during disagreements and share commitment to serve our community with integrity by modeling professionalism and mutual respect. I a I aim to encourage us to love thy neighbor as we love thyself and help strengthen the overall effectiveness of Flint Community City Councilman.

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Thank you, Councilwoman Johnson. Councilwoman Priestley, you have the floor.

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Thank you. Um, so the theme for this year's con convention was grassroots. Basically, every Every session that I attended except for the budgeting one which I moderated was about the grassroots starting and developing and working through issues. The especially interesting was the final closing um session where people were talking about how in a community there was a lack of benches for people to sit and so they develop some guy built benches and they raised money and it just grew and the city never moved a single bench. They saw a need they filled it. They didn't ask permission they did it. Hint hint hint. Um, also I found it very interesting um the housing with the pre-approved plans uh for um single family homes as well as duplexes in Jackson and what was the other one? Do you remember what other city it was? Lean

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Lan and I think

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Kamazoo. Kalamazoo and how they went through and had went through everything and actually Kalamazoo actually had um lots that they could sell at a reduced cost. Also, they reduced the cost for um for hookups to the water and and stuff like that to enable the price to be more affordable to newer residents. Um, it was an honor to be chosen as a moderator for the budgeting. It's a shame that um I was the only one there, but um from from our council, but it was good information and it wasn't about how to read a budget. It was how to prepare a budget and I found that fascinating. Thank you.

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Thank you, Councilwoman Winfrey Carter. You have five minutes.

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Thank you. Um, I want to say that the Michigan Melissa League um convention, it was it was it was a good convention. Every time I go to that convention, I um I learned something new. However, we we have not in the past reported out um here at council. So, I'm I'm trying to understand why are we reporting out now? I mean, I think that there should have been a report when Councilwoman um Lewis and Councilwoman Mette went to Iowa.

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They used taxpayers money. I think it should have been a report from last year's convention when um I believe Councilwoman Lewis, Councilwoman um Priestley and Councilwoman Musett went to Meno Island to the Michigan Melissa Ballet um convention. There should have been a report. However, I will give my report. Um the sessions focused on practical tools for strengthening Michigan cities with topics ranging from housing and sustainability to technology and economic development. And must I mind you that each council member that um that went to the convention, we could choose whatever sessions that we wanted to go into. So Judy, we did not have to choose the sess session that you moderated. I just want to point that out. Um but one of the um standout um breakout sessions that that I went to that I really enjoyed was the session on civility. Civility in your community. Um and I think um councilwoman in the third ward she pointed out some key points. So I will not you know point those out again. However, I do want to say one of the takeaways was that um the session reinforced it reinforced that elected officials set the tone.

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When leaders model civility, communities are more engaged. Um they're more trusting and and willing to work together. and and the key strategies from this um session. Disagreeing without disrespect. Following parliamentary uh procedure to maintain order, respecting citizen input while keeping meetings productive

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and modeling ethical conduct to set the tone for the entire community. Oh my god.

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The convention also emphasized Michigan's thriving communities framework, a statewide push to link local government action with state level support around core areas uh such as health, housing, infrastructure and arts and culture. In short, the convention reinforced that leadership requires vision, collaboration, and above all, civility. Without civility, even the best ideas cannot take root.

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Thank you, Madame Chair.

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Councilwoman Burns, you have the floor. Um, thank you. Um, and you said it very well. I do want to echo that. I do one thing, but I will say that out of the civility and bridging new gaps or making communication um being there, I was able to have um a good conversation with um Councilwoman Lean Johnson, and I appreciated um having that conversation with you. Um and it it was it was it was good. Um so we we talked it was ethics and civility. Ethics and civility. And literally um there was so much the tone um how to run effective meetings. The presiding officer. Your tone sets the tone of the meetings. And we know that our meetings have been a problem. um influences the perception of the council and of your city. And what I learned is a lot of people actually watch our meetings

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a lot. And um I was I was really surprised and it's almost like a a line drawn. Um and it's like a line drawn and and I was really, you know, it would have been it's kind of like winning the lot with the power ball if we could have come back with something else to work with. But we you can see we came back the same way that you know we win, right? And that's unfortunate because there was so much the art and how projects brought things together. They had a tall tin man where the community said, you know, we're going to set aside all of our differences and come together to work to come together and and yeah, look, and I'm talking and she's talking. This is just disrespectful. Yeah. It's that you're fine. Yeah.

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Yeah. And so, and so when we go to these conferences, we have to find something that we can come back better as and to improve and listening to the people who watch our council meetings and learning from what they see because their vision is different. They don't deal with the issues that Flint deals with and people think that Flint is fixed and it's not. uh people have this perception that we can drink from the water and we from the tap and we can't. And so when we have these issues and people understanding and people saying you know what um don't give up the disrespect that you get from the the president and the vice president don't give up and the people this was yeah this was a lot this was a lot and then even during the breakout session our interim president asked the question that I you know get paid for my podcast and I don't never took a dime never took took a dime and at at a at at a at a meeting that we were there to learn and grow something from. They had just spoke about um ethics and what's ethical and that you should not be um profiting from your seat or voting on your own resolutions and they said that was unethical and this was a part of it at the beginning because the seminar was in principles of conduct. Um, proper conduct, keeping promises, being dependable, building a solid reputation, participating and being available, demonstrating patience, showing empathy, holding on to ethical principles under

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stress, listening attentively, studying thoroughly, keeping integrity intact, over overcoming discouragement. And there were so many things and one thing Grand Rapids is a um you feel safe in that city and you feel safe and it's clean having a clean city and even like the night life for the young people, you know, they they are they living their best lives. They can the cafes and restaurants are open. It's a safe city. But we have to be mindful of our conduct. And as we see here tonight, we did not we we went there to learn and to bring back one which was a part of the civility is to show empathy and have patience. We did not get the tools that we really needed. We did not. And so I want to say to the art projects, they have some wonderful art projects. And we had the murals. There's over 300 murals with Joe Shapani that have been uh around Flint and they have done some beautiful projects and working together. I like to see us do that. Thank you, Council President Dr. Liddell Lewis. You have the floor.

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Thank you so much. So, um and it definitely was a privilege to be able to attend. you know the um the first thing is that um you know it's a great opportunity that the citizens know what we learned on their dime. So this session is I mean greatly appreciated. Um in addition to just want to say this for clarity you know we also spoke on it what we did in Iowa. We spoke on the fact that we went there and gave a presentation about um the the WA water lab being the first um certified only certified community water lab in the city of Flint and also um its impact in the second ward in which it resides. And so through that we made a lot of contacts and connections um that we still use so we can help other communities prepare and also engage so they can have a great water lab as well. Um, so that was what we learned in Iowa. Just getting a little backtrack since people don't remember. And then the other piece was when we went to Meno Island, not only did we come back with report, we came back with grant dollars. And so we're so happy that we were able and afforded the opportunity to go back again because I know at first our colleagues were recommending that we withdraw the training dollars and forego them. And I know other colleagues were not utilizing these funds. And so I was so happy to see colleagues take advantage. So such as Councilwoman Burns, Councilwoman Winfrey Carter, um Priestley, uh myself, as well as our newly elected third ward council woman LeShan Johnson. So, it was great seeing you there as well and the fact that you pressed to go, you know, so it was great seeing you there and and seeing you interact with um individuals, you know, that are in this seat and your willingness to learn. All right, so going back to this. So, um I I noticed the mirror mirror on the wall. That was a great presentation cuz like councilwoman Burns said, it spoke to

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what we have going on right now. We are ahead of the curve in a lot of ways. So, you know, Flint, we may have our challenges, but at the same time, we also are we're doing a lot of things right. So, yes, um Mr. Joe Shapani, he left a rich legacy of murals, and I know Sanger Branch, I believe, she's also involved and engaged in that space. And but but we also bring in many other peoples to help create these murals that we see on Martin Luther King, that we see on Sagenov Street. So, these are great pieces of work and a lot of them are done by local artists. So that was a great thing. The other thing um that I saw was I was also at the at the session that dealt with um civility in your community. Should we disagree um should we agree to disagree? And the great part about that is it emphasized the fact that we can disagree but it doesn't mean that we have to disconnect. oftentimes when someone don't agree with someone they take it as a form of now you're becoming my enemy but no we're just sharing other points of view and so they were saying that the MML that they receive a lot of things such as they hearing that um questions such as you know what to do about council members um who are just rude and abusive you know what to do when our audiences at our meetings are horribly disruptive and frequently downright rude what do we do what do we do so they were offering a safe place to give us this viable feedback. And so one of the things that I was able to do, I was able to reach out to the colleagues in the room and to ask them about ethics and one of the ethical concerns that we have here. And so since Council Burns brought it up, you know, we're talking about, you know, being able to have to monetize um from our elected seats. I wanted to

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know if that was happening in other areas and unfortunately they had no clue what I was talking about. They were really shocked. So, we're the first in that as well. But the good part is I'm looking forward to continuing to work with the Michigan Municipal League to work on ethics policy so we can make sure that we're standing in the front of that and that we are doing everything above board because one thing that they said was very paramount and it was this. Just because it is your right does not make it right. And so we want to make sure that we're operating in the best interests of the residents from our elected seats. So thank you so much Councilwoman Michelle Madame Chair for this opportunity.

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Thank you. And the last person to take their five minutes to discuss um the conference that would be myself. I'm going to go ahead and take some time. I do want to reiterate something very important that uh Councilwoman Lewis said is that anytime that we have gone to a conference, we have come back and we have reported out what we've done during those trainings. Uh and so this is not anything unique. Um this is just us having an opportunity as council members who went somewhere on taxpayer dollars because we hear so often if you're going to these trainings, we need to hear what you've done at these trainings. So, this is us letting you know what occurred while we were at training. One of the sessions that I went to was the creative storm water management. The reason that that session was important for me to go to is because um during the fall season, one of the things that we deal with a lot here in the city of Flint is the backup of our sewer. And the reason we have that issue is because one, you have people who are raking leaves or they're dropping trash or whatever the case may be. um it causes a backup in our storm water management. I am a part of a group in which um the city of Flint uh sewer department is a part of that group as well as the Flint River watershed is also a part of that group and we are basically looking at a way to um do some storm water management making sure people know to clean their dra clean the grates and make sure that we are not adding um more polluting items to the grates so that we're not having backups. of water flow during um the heavier rainy seasons. And so I had an opportunity to take a tour while I was in Grand Rapids and they're doing some amazing amazing work around storm water management. They're also doing a lot of really good work around uh the green

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space. They have a um energy company that was there since uh 1880 something on their oldest side in 199 the top of the 1900s on their quote unquote newer side. but they've been able to retrofit that so that they're able to um lower their carbon emissions and put out more good green energy. And so I think that's something that we would we should be able to replicate in Flint is to retrofit some of our older buildings so that we are not polluting um our air because we already know we've dealt with it certain pollutants already. And so I had a great time on that tour. also had an opportunity to visit the river that they had there and hear about the flood that occurred and why they now make sure that their river flows in a way that um it doesn't cause a huge flood because they had a huge flood issue a couple of years back. I also had an opportunity to go to the thriving communities for a thriving Michigan and again that was something else that was also focused on infrastructure. One of the things that we know is that infrastructure around the country is very old. It's aging. It's antiquated and it needs to be changed. It causes a lot of um environmental issues which causes a lot of health issues and impacts us in negative ways. Uh we see things like poisonings and cancer happening because of the way in infrastructurally a lot of things are set up. And so I had an opportunity to go and learn a little bit more about how we could better improve our aging infrastructure in the city of Flint. And so I'm really excited to uh build those connections and have those conversations. One of the things that's being pushed for right now that I know a lot of Flint residents will be very happy to hear is that there is a push for funding to go toward neighborhood roads. Right now there's a lot of funding that only goes towards main streets. So, we see a lot of main

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streets and they're being taken care of. The potholes are being handled, but what often does not get addressed are the neighborhood roads. We have a lot of uh streets in our neighborhoods where a lot of patchwork is happening. So, we have it where it's like the gray asphalt, then you have like the black asphalt or you have the cookie crumbles or you just have um the other pavement crumbles that um happens a lot. And so to hear that there is a push to have funding for neighborhood roads is a good thing for Flint because excuse me neighborhood streets because in the city of Flint we have a lot of streets that do need to be taken care of. We have a lot of streets where the curb stops are not accessible. And so with that funding that may come down the pipeline for the state. That gives us an opportunity to improve the the roads in our neighborhoods as well as make our ex our neighborhoods more accessible for people who are in wheelchairs, for people who are um who are pushing strollers around um for some of our residents who are just a bit older and those curves are a little bit higher to reach. And so there's a lot of great news happening infrastructure-wise in the state of Michigan. and I'm I'm going to make sure that the city of Flint uh gets in on the dollars that we are owed from that. So that is my time. I do want to thank all of my colleagues at this time for saving for sharing with us. First of all, I've already said that's my time. I am now speaking as a chair. RL please. As I was saying, I want to thank my colleagues who attended the conference for taking this time to share. I want to thank my colleagues who um did not have an opportunity to attend the conference with us this time for your patience as we report out. I will now entertain a motion for adjournment.

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Madam Chair, councilwoman in the second ward. Motion to adjurnn. There's been a motion to adjurnn by the councilwoman in the second ward. Is there support? Moved and supported by the councilman in the first ward. Roll call. Madame secretary.

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Dr. Lewis. Yes. Miss Johnson. Yes. Miss Priestley. Yes. Miss Winfrey Carter. Yes. Miss Burns. Yes. Miss Machet. Yes. Mr. Feifer, Mr. Jared is not in. Mr. Alamine,

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the vote is 8 yes, zero no. The vote is 8 yes, zero no. It is now 7:33 p.m. This special affairs committee meeting is adjourned. [Applause] [Music] What Eminem? [Music] I do want to note um madam secretary that the timer should be going and that uh residents should be if they have not already filled out a speaker slip because you don't have to twice. So if you've already filled out one and checked the box, this is now the time to fill out a speaker slip for council if you have not already. You're on camera. There you go. Remember [Music]

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what happened? If it don't fit, you must quit. He's still quit.

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I didn't know this camera. is watching. [Music] against [Music] They gave

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I have this question. I put it on my face. Hey, after you hit like shoot. Okay, if um if I could have council members take their seat and we'll get ready to start the council meeting. marijuana.

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[Music] It is 7:42 p.m. And I am calling this special I mean sorry this uh city council meeting to order in accordance with Flint City Charter section 3-201 for the purpose of electing a city council president. Before that we will start with a roll call. Mr. Alamine Dr. Lewis present. Miss Johnson present. Miss Priestley present. Miss Winfrey Carter

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present. Miss Burns present. Miss Mashhat present. Mr. Feifer present. Mr. Jarrett present.

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You have nine members present. So for the organization of the city council, Um, the first rounds of votes will go toward the council president. And so the city council shall elect from his members a presiding officer who shall be known as the president of the city council. Right now we will be starting with where we left off last meeting. Um, the last meeting there was a vote was in June and that was round I'm sorry actually the last time you actually voted would have been in March. So we will start with round 735

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and we will be starting for this purpose with Mr. Feifer and what you will do is when I call your name you will state the name of the individual who you wish to elect as your council president. So we'll start with Mr. Feifer Winfrey Carter [Music] Mr. Jarrett Winfrey Carter Mr. Alamine Dr. Lewis Dr. Lewis Miss Johnson Dr. Liddell Lewis, Miss Priestley,

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Liddell Lewis, Miss Winfrey Carter, Winfrey Carter, Winfrey Carter. Didn't say you yet. Miss Burns has stated Miss Winfrey Carter. And Miss Mich, Dr. Liddell Lewis. So round 735, we have four votes for Jerry Winford Carter and five votes for Dr. Lewis.

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So, um, Dr. Lewis has been elected as the city council president. Um, I'm going to turn the uh meeting over now to the president-elect, who can officially call this meeting to order. And then we will continue with the organization of council and vote for a council vice president. They make shirts. Thank you. The time is now 7:47 and as the uh clerk said, this meeting is being called to order. So now we will move on to the calling of the organization of city council for the council vice president. So madame clerk, go ahead.

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Okay. The city council shall elect from its members an officer who shall be known as the vice president of the council. And the same as with the president. When I call your name, you will state the name of the person who you wish to elect as the vice president of the council. And we will be starting with round number one. And Mr. Elamine, Dr. Lewis Candace Mashhat Miss Johnson Candace Mashette Miss Priestley Candace Mashette Miss Winfrey Carter

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Jonathan Jared Miss Burns Dennis Fifer Miss Michelle Mr. Feifer Tony Burns Mr. Jarrett Tanya Burns. So that is that is five votes for Miss Mush, one vote for Mr. Jarrett,

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one vote for Mr. Feifer, and two votes for Miss Burns. So with that, Miss Mashad has been elected as your vice president of the council. Thank you, madam clerk. All right. So next on the agenda, it speaks to the president-ele of the city council may appoint committee officers, finance, legislative, and government operations. So Miss Priestley, would you like to continue in your role as finance chair? Yes, please. All right. Thank you. And Miss Mashhat, are you interested in continuing with your role as legislative chair as well as government operations chair? Yes. Thank you.

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All right. Thank you. All right, Madam Chair. We have you, Madam Clerk. So, we have selected the um appropriate committee officers to proceed. And so, now as the official president of this body once again, I would like to go ahead and get started. It's okay. But Mr. Wood, that's your first warning. So, let's continue to bull.

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So, I I want to make sure um that we have it in line before we read the pledge of allegiance. So, you will hear it twice. The reading of the disorderly person city code subsection. Any person that persists in disrupting this meeting will be in violation of the Flint City Code section 3110 disorderly conduct of sudden battery and disorderly person and will be subject to arrest for a misdemeanor. Any person who prevents the peaceful and orderly conduct of any meeting will be given one warning. If they persist in disrupting the meeting, that individual will be subject to arrest. Violators will be removed from the meeting. So now we're going to jump back up to the pledge of allegiance. So um Mr. Jared, would you please lead us in the pledge of

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allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Now it's time for the prayer of blessing. But before we get into the prayer of the blessing, we would like to honor anyone that may have transitioned. So does anyone have anyone they would like to honor? Madam Chair, go ahead.

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Miss Edith Spencer. I do want to take this time to recognize um her in her passing and a prayer for her family at this time. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else? Madame Chair, go ahead, Miss Burns. Thank you. Uh, Princess Williams, who lost her life to domestic violence as they did not take seriously her abuser. She lost her life to domestic violence a week ago. Thank you. Yes. Anyone else? Madam Chair, Madam Chair,

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go ahead. um like to um ask for prayer in support of the Edward Evans family. I'm sorry. Um Trent Evans who was also a an employee of the city. But pray for that family in particular because in the last no more than 18 months uh there have been several members of that family lost. Wow. So if you'd remember them in prayer. Madam chair. Go ahead. Miss Priestley.

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Yes. I'd like to remember Charlie Kirk, please. All right. All right. Anyone else?

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All right. So, seeing that there is no one else, I would I would like to honor um the memory of Mr. Lenel Sanders. Mr. Lenel Sanders. Okay. So, we will have the moment of silence starting now. All right. Thank you. So, now it's time for the prayer of the blessing. Council Michelle, would you please lead us in the prayer of the blessing? And ma'am, excuse me. That's your warning. Not all prayers are good. Let's go ahead and go.

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Go ahead. Somebody's phone is going off.

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And we would like to make sure that the audience is familiar with the our rule that says silence yours. cellular phones. Thank you. Go ahead, Councilwoman. Fall minds are cleared. Heavenly Father God, we come to you just first and foremost thanking you for this day and time. Thank you for your grace, your mercy, your love, and your favor. We thank you that you're clearing the throat of those who are having a hard time right now, Lord God, because we know no one would be purposely disrespecting you during this time. We thank you Lord God for safe travels both here and to our respective journeys home. We ask that you would be with all of the families who are experiencing loss right now who have experienced loss for some time. Lord God, we ask that you would touch their mind, hearts, and souls and give them comfort. We ask now, Lord God, that you would bless this council as we move forward that we would do things to edify and uplift your community. Lord God, we thank you in advance for your grace and your mercy of all in this room. Lord God, in Jesus name we pray. Amen.

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Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you. So, I want to um circle back again to the regional disorderly um city person subsection. Any person that persist in disrupting this meeting will be in violation of city code subsection going all the way down because you heard before. If you persist in disrupting this meeting, you um will receive a warning and you may be subject to arrest. Violators shall be removed from this meeting. So, now it's time for a request for agenda changes or additions. Any request for agenda changes? Madam Chair,

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go ahead, Madam Clerk. Um so we do have an add-on resolution um as discussed in the um close session resolution approving settlement authority in the Cameron versus City of Flint at all Jennese County Circuit Court case and you should have that resolution in front of you. So um we would like to bring that as a add-on also um as was um sent to you. Thank you.

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Um, as supplemental information for today's agenda on your council agenda under appointments to the uh ethis and accountability board, Miss Latrice Davis, you should also have a copy of her resume.

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Okay. Thank Thank you, Madam Clerk. All right. So, we will call um this add-on one. And that will be add it. Okay. All right. So, seeing that that is the only um add-on um the the chair will order that without objection. And so now it is time. Madam chair, go ahead. Um, due to the there was supposed to be one. There was a request.

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Okay. Oh, okay. So, yep. So, this will be added without objection and we will put it as the first resolution. All right. So, now it's time for the public comment. So, the first public speaker, madame clerk,

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the first speaker is Ariel Ariel Mitchell. [Applause] Today is the first day of fall. And you peoples that on this council done broke up the cameras talking about the revolution would not be televised last week. And now you got them all fixed up right now and talking about a moment of silence for anybody that died. Well, here's like this. I say for the record my friend Charlie Chapman a moment of silence. Thank you very much that y'all you invite him to you people invite him to the college to speak like Billy Graham and like they invited my pastor Roger Elton on court highway and nothing happened to him when he when they invited my invited him on the campus to preach but you had to do it to Charlie Chapman. I mean I and stuff like that and you think he getting away with it and I mentioned we ain't had no recorders to to take me last week and I was talking and my shack tried to cut me off. It was freedom of speech and I says I think I said some words like this guy talking about doodoo that's kid talk. I said no I've been said that tonight because people's you you're making grown people look like kids in this neighborhood. Kids use bigger words than grown peoples. And that's and when the preachers start speaking one word, they talking about it was a threat to everybody on the campus and they pop hopped up and and popped them with them pop gun. Every last one of them got pop guns, but they they ain't used them yet.

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They don't know who to shoot yet. But they shot the wrong person when they did that junk and shooting an arm preacher. You know the preacher ain't got no no no no no no weapon on him and you going to try to walk up to him and piss so scared to walk up all you do pistol whoop him but you was coward to shoot him in the ground talking about I guess who did it I don't know if they caught him yet or her who popped him this so-called generation and like another thing Mr. Jack, your friend over on old East Street invited me in the house, but I applause through that junk. She got 150 lb puppy in there, a boy dog, but she won't let me in the house.

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You got it got all black women's in there, a baby program. She said, "The Lord told me to cook two hamburgers. I went invited me in and you were her name is uh Lesie. I want you to say a word to her. And she said, "Study your Bible, Mr. Mitchell." I said, "I don't want the master to say, I never knew you. Depart from me." She She said, "Oh, you know that scripture, huh?" I said, "That's what I remember when I went." She said, "Let me in the kingdom of heaven." But she wanted him to let me in the house puppy in there like Mr. Mitchell. Priestly with him. Somebody want to hang your Mr. Mitchell. Cut you up on something.

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Mr. Mitchell, that's your first warning. So, Mr. Mr. Mitchell, as you laugh, that is your first warning. Thank you. Next speaker, Madame Clerk. The next speaker is Zo Lynch. It's hard to follow you, Arrow.

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Hi, my name is Z Lynch. I am here to um uh invite the public to a couple of uh outings in the next couple weeks. Um the first one is going to be this Saturday at the Church Without Walls at 6202 Dupant. It's uh going to be a um I care walk. It's a fundraiser for NAMI, the National Alliance for Mental Illness. And uh we're gonna have uh DJ, food, games for the kids along with bounce houses and um it's it's just going to be a a good time. So, I hope that everybody that uh is in within hearing range can can come and we look forward to seeing you. The second one is uh going to be uh at the farmers market in the Ramsale room. It will be from Oh, I'm sorry. The um the I Care walk is uh from 2 to 6 on Saturday. And then um the uh um uh October the 15th at the farmers market in the Ramsdale room will be a focus group. It's going to be from 6:00 to 8:30 at night. Our feature speaker is going to be Danis Russell of Jennese Health System. We'll have several other um speakers that will be sitting on a panel. We're going to be discussing the um uh uh perceived needs here in Jennese County and the resources that are available. We'll have many resources that will be speaking about their mission and uh we'll also be asking for ideas from the audience and how they want their next focus group to be presented, what kind of topics. So, we will have snacks and everybody's invited to that one as well. Please come see us October the 15th from 6:00 to 8:30 at the farmers market. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker, Madam Clerk.

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Next speaker is Stanley Wood. [Applause]

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All right. I'd like to take a moment of silence for common sense. All right, let's get started. Uh, first I want to say that for the behavior of the crowd out here, I pretty much blame the president and the vice president for that and their decor. It's everything from bullying. It's things like calling a point of order for somebody not being gerine and then you go on about not being gerine about the person not being gerine. It could be Germaine Tito, whatever as council man Maize would say.

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Um, Councilwoman uh Johnson, I know you said you weren't a Neilie's girl. I get that. U, you are their fifth vote. I noticed that when you are here, um, you don't really do nothing but vote. You don't talk about anything, nothing like that. It's probably a pretty good gig making 20 plus thousand dollars just to say yes. Well, only to say yes because there will never be a no. Um, let's talk a little bit about ethics. We want to point out Councilwoman in the sixth ward about her podcast, which I guarantee you she's not getting getting any money from it. I know because I've donated to it and I know it goes strictly to Jay, but yet we can have another council person that takes bribery and we'll vote on what Ashley Capital needs.

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So, I'll give you an example. I went I was elected as a board member to a board uh that plans on doing some stuff here around Flint uh among other cities. And I went to Chicago pay for it out of my own pocket. Well, at the board meeting, they were like, "Well, we need to uh, you know, have a give Stanley Wood a reimbursement." And so, they had a uh the whole sheet of finances and people separated things and I wasn't going to vote on myself. I was going to abstain because it's not right for me to vote on something that's going to benefit myself. that has happened here in the first ward, the second ward. It was the third ward when Quincy was here, although I don't know where that lawnmower went. Um, last thing is you all need to respect our time. You guys know every single meeting what time it starts. We never know when it's going to end, but you know what time it starts. That's all part of your attendance. Whether you're here or you're late, that's attendance.

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Thank you. That's the bottom line. All right. All right. That's your second warning. Have a good evening. You're welcome. So, next speaker, Madam Clerk. [Music] [Applause] Okay. So, do we have Mr. Wood on record calling the chair uh the cword? Just want to make sure that we're clear as we talk about derogatory statements towards um women. Thank you. You have a great day. Next speaker, Madam Clerk. Next speaker is James Moore.

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James Moore, born and raised here in Flint, Michigan. Just reflecting back on some of the past, you know, uh, a couple years ago, we voted, uh, well, we supported $65 million going into houses being tore down. I hear earlier from the first meeting. Now, we can't build a house because it ain't enough of land to put it on. When are we going to live up to what we do? You know, well, maybe you don't understand what I'm saying. Let's bring back Auto World and let's see if it make two years when before it only made one. When do we be responsible for the people's money? You know, we do some crazy stuff. And Eric, he used to say, "You guys are the ones who hold the purse strings to the administration." That's the mayor's office downstairs. We need some accountability and the people of the city of Flint really needs to start paying attention to what you guys are doing with our money. I spent all last year listening the money go out the door. People coming up. Half of them didn't even know what they was asking for and and was literally getting it and a few of them didn't. We got to do a better job with the people's money because you know what? Next year all of y'all is up for election. [Applause] All right. Next speaker, Madam Clerk.

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Next speaker is Arthur Woodson. Not here. Karma Lewis. Yeah, she's not here as well. Joel Arnold.

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Joel is not here. Sarah Houston. [Applause] Sarah Houston, six word resident, long life resident of Flint, Michigan. Um, nobody responded to anything I had to say about accessibility on the first round. So, I guess y'all just don't give a damn. That's my take on it because nobody had nothing to say about that. too busy wanting to pick at each other and all of that stuff. Miss Liddell, I'm going to speak to you and I hope that you would look at me because out of respect cuz you know that's what you're supposed to do. But no, cuz you're mad because I don't agree with you anymore. I that's how I feel because you'd ignore me in the way you talk. Last week I saw you in elevator and I had to say how are you doing for you to speak to me? I'm not your enemy, sweetheart, but wrong is wrong and right is right. Why are you so negative about the people that you serve? You talk about Flint residents like they a piece of crap on the bottom of your feet. You just sat there today talking about some Flint residents don't never come. Like nobody's going to like you if you don't relate to them. You don't like us. So why would we why would they like you?

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Like your attitude sucks. Mushette, your attitude is horrible. Y'all guys talked about this civility thing that you guys went to, but yet you want to spend your five minutes talking stuff back to Miss Burns because you didn't like what she said or talking back to them because you don't like what she said. This is ridiculous. You guys are here to serve the people whether you like us or you don't. I will tell you like I told a fellow interpreter or a striving interpreter of mine that who oh they don't like me. The the deaf community doesn't like me. I can't interpret. How can you serve? How can you be afraid or don't like the people you chose to serve?

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I can't be afraid of de people if I want to be an interpreter and sign in front of them. You can't be disliking us because you don't like what we say. You're here to serve the people.

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If the if if if Chief Green is so on board with this stuff, why didn't he stick around to say so? That's a problem. Y'all kind of like reminded me of the federal administration right now. How everybody over here is all on one team and want to do all you know I hope you want to be civil. You sounded very very genuine when you said that with about civility. I would like to see that not just follow the leader on this board. I would like people to have minds of their own on this board. It's not about being whoever's friend. It's about doing what is right for the people. And if we are complaining, then listen to us. Stop cutting us off. Stop limiting us. Stop abusing our time. I have to be here all this late. I should have been at home eating dinner. But it's so important for me to say something. But you guys make it so hard. Our time is only 3 minutes. You get five minutes. You get to [ __ ] your five minutes. And I have to hurry up and say it real real quick because you're about to call me off in three, two, one, and I can't even finish a sentence.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Madame Clerk. And and as as you call the um next speaker, Madam Clerk, just want to make sure that we emphasize in the rules that it says we have a total of three minutes for every resident and it's against council rules to go over that. Just so just want to make sure. So, thank you, Miss Sarah. You have a great day. All right. Next speaker, Madame Clerk. Next speaker is Tanya Jones. ma'am. Ma'am, ma'am, you are B. Ma'am, that is your warning.

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That's fine. Ma'am, that's your second warning. Ma'am, would you please exit the chambers? Ma'am, you're disrupting the meeting according to our dis person city code subsection. Thank you so much for exiting the chambers and following the rules. You have a great evening. Next speaker, Miss Tanya. Miss Tanya Jones. Good evening again. Thank you. I can't make this up. I would like to give a moment of silence to the best and Edwards family due to the fact it was a mother and daughter that overdosed. So both of them, Candace Machet overdosed, both parents, both daughter, mother and daughter over overdosed. One funeral was last week, the other one was this week to a family. So yes, I am passionate about opium crisis other than my son. So and another thing is clearly I'm making history just seeing this. You know, Neilie gets what he want. He got his five rubber stamps. I'm learning about the rubber stamps and everything just passed through. So I'm witnessing that and it's I guess it's a beautiful thing for him. Okay. So this basically is Neie's circus. He uses the people to get what he want just like John Cole just like he used John Cole. I can talk about it cuz I lived it. He used his people to get what he want. Pass the money what he want. Long as they get what he want. Just like um Lean your house with that waiting list. It takes a long time to get on that waiting list. I ain't got nothing done. But if you put your if you put your name, it's it takes a long time to get your roof, your siding, your doors, everything. You get yours your whole remodel through the city of Flint and it's messed up

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because there's people out here that really I see people in Liddell Liddell Lewis Ward that needs their roof fixed. This is I see this in Judy Ward, the opium crisis. But I'mma come for you later. I promise you that, Judy. I got something just bubbling for you, baby. Like a crock pot. Another thing I'm not going nowhere and I want to tell you everybody, you know what I'm saying? There's nine here. It's the first time me ever seen nine people here. Candace Mette, you a demon. I can say you're a demon because I've went to your church. You are a demon. You are a walking demon.

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And God see everything. That's the thing. God see everything. And if you can live with it, hey, you know what? Who know who we're going to answer to the end? Is God. So be blessed. and I'm blessed no matter what. Have a good night. Love y'all. [Applause] Next speaker, Madame Clerk.

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Next speaker is Mari Copeny Madison Oric. Oh, I'm sorry. Didn't want to speak. Next speaker is Claire McClinton. [Applause] I wanted to finish my statement last time and ran out of time, but um in waves, not all at once, but in waves, people are beginning to get their water settlement money. And I wanted to let the public know to go to flintwater settlement.com. There's a lot of uh uh information there. But I also wanted to say does anybody know or care how much money is left or set aside of the opera funds? We know the opera funds has been sent to general funds $40 million, but then they designate within the general fund opera money. Does anyone know or care how much money is left in that portion of the general fund that's designated as ARPA money? asking for a friend. Asking for a lot of friends that's been up here asking this question time after time.

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And some of us has been beating the drum for more money for home rehab and and reconstruction. get the tarps off the roof from day one when you all you all held a public meeting at Ha wasn't it at Hasselbreak over on the north end the first meeting this council had about how to use ARPA money that was raised then community hollered then for home repair and rehabilitation But who got money right out the gate? Land bank to tear down homes, they got money. They got some of the first money, ARPA money.

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But those of us that's been hollering and beating the drum for home rehab and rehabilitation, we asked for a set amount. We said, "Well, you gave uh Habitat, I mean, not Habitat, but the uh land bank uh 16 million. Give rehabilitation 16 million." Duh. So, can anyone tell us or do anybody care? And this is another thing that's very aggravating. When people come up here, you all do not answer their questions. You don't even say you going to look into it or nothing. Just like we ain't nothing but we the people got the last word.

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All right. Next speaker, madam clerk. Next speaker is Chad Slureer. Yeah, Chad's not here. David Peachy. Mr. Peachy, he's not here as well. Derek Dorman not here.

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Beverly Bigs leaving. My name is Beverly Big Levy. Lean, good job. Good job. You're the most rubberous stamp there is. You will put Liddell back in and Candace back in. And you done seen this going on all year round, but they the mayor told you to do your job. sucker. That's what you were, a sucker. All you need now is a lollipop. It's sad. Truly sad. Leon, we'll see you tomorrow at 12. Cuz I just want to know what that judge going to say to you. All the dirt you done. And guess what, Lei? I won my case today with you. That was the good thing about it. You know, you wasn't going to show up cuz you know you was going to go to jail for lying. You the biggest biggest forehead lie I seen in a long time. It's time out. But you go you going to get yours. Your day coming. Your day coming. It's bad. But you think it's funny, but the last laugh gonna be on who? You.

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Jerry, Tanya, Jonathan, Dennis, hold your head up cuz you know what? There's some things coming down the line. And it's sad to say that you see that little girl had on an orange jumpsuit. She wore it for a reason. Little boy had on police outfit. They wore it for a reason. It's only a matter of time. And it's sad.

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This is sad. And then you you want to say what y'all did on a trip. That was a laugh. The the biggest joke there is. That was a laugh. Cuz you ain't learned nothing. Anytime you follow the leader, the leader going to lead you to hell. Have a good day. [Applause] [Music] All right. Next speaker, Madam Clerk.

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Next speaker is I can't tell. Vivian Vian Sanders. Last name Sanders. [Applause] Hi everybody. My name is Va Sanders. I live at 1314 Crawford Street with I see nine peoples on the board. Uh which one is Athetherton? Um Athetherton Roy and Fenton. That's you. I tried to call you over and over. I couldn't reach you. I went to the mayor's office. I couldn't get in there. They don't You didn't answer the phone. We had that city poop back up. Doodoo. Nobody came out. I'm I'm 78 years old. I haven't had heat since February. The last of February. I came back down here. The Mexican lady, I don't know her name, but I know her nationality. She said, "That happened last year." I said, "That's a lie. That happened this year." But what I want, what I want, I had to buy a furnace. Was nothing wrong with the furnace that I had. I'm on social security retirement. Every time I go somewhere to get some help, you get too much money. They they they said there was money for us to do our basement and stuff. I haven't heard they didn't they they went to my steps. They saw all that poop in my basement and that's where they went

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and I haven't heard from nobody since. Could I get your number or whatever to talk to you? Uh the city attorney

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who I'm not to I'm not to be mean. This is my first time here. I never seen nothing like this before. I don't conduct myself like this. I don't talk about nobody like this. All I want is help with my stuff and the neighborhood. It's the no whole neighborhood. I don't know whether you know about it. You knew about it. You did. Okay. Okay. All right then. If I could get your number and stuff. Okay. Thank you all for listening to me. [Applause]

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Thank you. Um, next speaker, Madam Clerk.

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The final speaker for this meeting is Miss Jackson. [Applause] Good evening. My name is Janz Jackson. I am Kiki's mother. I want to say my heart goes out to the young lady who got killed in domestic violence. Um, that could have been my daughter. That could have been my baby at the hands of Wayne Leon Wilson. Council, wake up. Wake up. Y'all seen it when he came down for the Muslim lady.

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Y'all heard the recordings. Y'all seen a video of him with the Draco. I've been waiting on you to come to my house with the drill. Um, this is not New Jack City. And that demon from hell right there, he's not even Neo Brown. Wayne Leon Wilson. Let's get dirty now. When you shot up Kiki House 2014 down in Rollingwood, you and uh Dwayne Robertson, Silver and Paula, y'all killed the uh Chihuahua next door. 2018 23 Father's Day 10:21 when you called me saying you didn't put your hands on Kiki when you pulled the gun out on her. February the 17th, 2023 when your son and my grandson was wrestling and your son got a mark on him and you punched him. Y'all talking about uh safe. We got a demon right here sitting on the board. He can't even look at me. And then then you want to turn around and get photos of my kids showing them to people. Baby, your hands is full cuz you got me now. And for you to tell people um be your eyes and ears, you better watch your back, baby. Cuz I I mean that on everything. My kids are my everything. I don't know nothing about none of y'all, but my kids are everything. And that means going to hell, jail, prison. I would do that.

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Now, Leon, you can keep your raggly up there being who you are. And by the way, why don't you get a job? SSI, you up here getting this grant money from everybody. talking about you a single dad having my daughter live with your butt since 2014. Like I said, this ain't New Jack City. You ain't Neo Brown. You a demon from hell and you going to deal with me, baby. All right, Madame Chair, is there any more speakers? That was the last speaker.

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All right, thank you. So, now we're moving on to council comment. Do we have any council members that would like to comment? Go ahead, Miss Priestley.

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You know, um hearing about the um mother and daughter, son who died together Odine. Um having family members who have been addicted to opioids. My nephew has told me that his mother is the one who addict got him started on opioids. They're both clean. My sister's been clean for 34 years. She gave me permission to say that to say that she is clean and I do not have never mentioned that it was a sister of mine who was an opioid addicted person but she got her son addicted. He's clean as well. It can happen but it's it's it's it's a shame that it is those who are addicted get others addicted because they say, "Oh, it's going to feel good." not talking about the destruction that it happens to their family and um I is it is something that I am deeply concerned about. I also have I want to celebrate that my one of my nieces has now celebrated one year as of um Friday of cleaning from opioid addiction. One year. And I'm proud of her. It's not easy. It's not easy. And I just wanted to let you know that I do have empathy and I do understand and I have gone through this with a family member. Thank you.

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All right. Um, anyone else would like to comment during council response?

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Go ahead, Miss Burns. I I know that Miss Sarah Houston is not here, but I do believe that and I'm in agreement that they should not have to schedule like we have to if you're showing up. I want to go to city council. It should not have to be a two-day um let people know because people don't often know and they don't have equal access. They just do not. And that is something I spoke with the clerk about and hopefully um we have to look at budgets. Uh we were not here last week but they are entitled to equal access especially when we have the Michigan School for the Deaf that has been here for what 100 years over a hundred years. And so we should be doing better as a mun a municipality making sure we have those accommodations for them. That's just a fact. We should be um setting the tone was what and I'm going to probably use this every week. The tone of the meeting is set by our chairs and it's I don't think much was learned. I just don't, you know, I do not. And going to a a meeting obviously because our our issues are much deeper. But I'm going to say this. Um, Miss Janess shows up Jackson for her daughter Kiki, as she should as a mother, and she's worried about her mother. Tomorrow she goes to court, Judge Vicky Beahill in uh 67th District Court, and she's asking for the community to support her. Her daughter is scared for her life. She's scared. She went from victim to survivor and she's scared and she wants

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the public's support. Judge Vicky Beill, 12:00 67th District Court on Sagenol Street.

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All right. Thank you so much. Anyone else would like to speak during council response? Anyone else? Alrighty. Well, seeing that we have no one else, um, I will go ahead and be the last person to speak. Um, I definitely am excited that we can finally move forward as a body, especially having our third war seat filled, which has been vacant for over 300 plus days. So so excited today to see the um third ward compliment representing the third ward. Happy to see the great things that you're doing. You are definitely picking up where council member Murphy left off and and um and that's a good thing. And so what we want to make sure want to make sure that everyone is aware of the um grand opening that's going to take place very soon regarding the um the vets homeless facility right there on the corner. Um and Quincy he fought so hard for that and we want to make sure that we are there showing our support as well as the support of the third war council woman. It is the Sacred Heart Veteran Village ribbon cutting and open house. It'll take place Monday, October the 20th from 3 to 5:00 p.m. So, we're looking forward to seeing um council members there as well as the community, the third ward residents because this is something great that's being built right there on the north side. So, we want to continue to see the north side grow and build and we can't do it without the support of the residents. So, I heard someone did speak and say that the residents don't like me. Um I don't think that's true. Um I'm happy to report after several recalls I attempts I am still here and the fact that um I thank my colleagues for entrusting me with the responsibility to lead the body again as we stand on the city's business. It's not about being a rubber stamp, but it's

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about getting the job done for the people. So I really do appreciate the fact that I am able and I am entrusted to do that. So, with that being said, we're going to get on with the business of the city and thank you so much for inviting the body as well as the rest of the residents um to the event. All right. So, we are at the consent agenda. So, what's the pleasure of the body? Make a motion. Go ahead. Council of seven ward agenda. All right. A motion to approve the consent agenda. Any support? Supported by the council of the first ward. Any separations? Yes, Madame Chair. All right. Go ahead, Miss Winfrey Carter.

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Um, let me see. I would like to separate 2550318 2550319 25320. Um, hold on. Hold on. Miss Winfrey Carter. All of those appointments. Hold on one second. Page six. All right. All right. So, you said all the appointments. Yes, except um all of the appointments from special affairs. So I'll say 2550318 2550319. Mhm. 255032031

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253 22 as well as um let me see I have some other ones. 2550323 323 the office Depot supplies. Got it. And 25326. All righty. the street I believe

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and 25303 303 Okay. All righty. Well, seeing that those things items are separated, these are the items that will move on um to for approval. We have Oh, and we're also including the presentation of minutes as well with any corrections. Oh, Madame Chair. Um,

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anyone else? That's it for me, Madam Chair. Go ahead, Miss B. Uh, I would like to separate add-on number one.

4:20:41 – 4:21:290

All right. Add-on number one. All righty. Well, seeing that that is all well a lot of items, we will highlight the ones that are up for approval. So, we're looking at page number six. So, we we will send 25504 for approval. 2530 0 2550301 2550317 [Music] and that'll be all for the consent agenda. So roll call. Madame clerk.

4:21:26 – 4:21:420

Madam chair, I just want to state for the record that 2550 326 is a 0.1. It it hasn't been acknowledged. You you said 326 is a 0.1. Correct. It was amended in special. All right. Thank you so much.

4:21:45 – 4:22:300

The consent agenda consists of 25317 2531 2530 0 25304 Okay. Pardon? Right. I I stated that. Go ahead. A roll call. Madam clerk. Mr. Alaming. Yes. Dr. Lewis. Yes. Miss Johnson? Yes. Miss Priestley? Yes. Miss Winfrey Carter?

4:22:30 – 4:23:150

Yes. Miss Burns? Yes. Miss Michelle? Yes. Mr. Feifer is not in. Mr. Jarrett, no. Vote is seven yes, one no. The vote is seven yes, one no. The consent agenda passes. So now we're um on to what's the pleasure of the body? We're the separate the add-on was added at the top. Is that the first one? Yes. Okay, madame chair. Go ahead. Um, I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution approving settlement authority in the Cameron V city of Flint. All right. Is there any support? Support, madam chair. Oh, hold on. Supported by comment the first word. Go ahead.

4:23:13 – 4:23:580

I'd like to call the question. All righty. So, being a call for the question supported by the councilman in the first ward. This is a roll call vote for the calling of the question. Roll call. Madame clerk. I'm sorry, madam chair. I didn't get who uh seconded that call the question motion. Um so Councilman Michette made the motion and then Councilman Elamine he supported. Okay. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter, no. Miss Burns, no. Miss Mhat? Yes. Mr. Feifer is not in. Mr. Jarrett, no. Mr. Alamine, yes. The vote is five yes, three no.

4:23:56 – 4:24:100

Vote is five yes, three no. Call for the question passes. So I'm going on to the roll call vote for resolution number one. Roll call. Madam clerk. Miss Johnson.

4:24:14 – 4:24:470

Miss Johnson. Yes. She gonna turn on my Miss Priestley. Yes. Miss Winfrey Carter. No. Miss Burns. No. Miss Michelle. Yes, Mr. Fifer. This is to approve add-on number one. No, Mr. Jarrett. I abstain. Mr. Alamine, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Vote is five yes, three no one abstension.

4:24:46 – 4:25:240

All right, the vote is five yes, three no one abstension. So, Mr. Jared, I see that we didn't hear. So, what was your rationale for abstaining? your personal conflict according to charter. The reason I abstained is because I did not receive the information. I was not part of the Okay. So I I I don't I'm not informed enough on the on the issue. Okay. So we know that according to the attorney which stated that it had to be a personal conflict in order for abstension. So just please make note. So we're going to go ahead and move on to the next resolution. Madam Chair, go ahead. Councilwoman,

4:25:21 – 4:25:560

I make a motion to approve resolutions 2550318, 25319, 2550320, 25321, 2550322. All right. Is a resolution to approve resolutions 2550318, 2550319, 25320, 25321, and 2532. Any support? Madam Chair. All right. Yes, I call the question. All right. Calling of the question. and supported by the council in the first ward. Roll call, madam clerk, to call the question.

4:26:02 – 4:26:230

Miss Priestley. Yes. Waste no time with this. I'll be um Madam um excuse me, Miss Burns, as you you can please exit silently. Let's not disturb the roll call vote. Go ahead, man. Thank you. All right. Go ahead. Madam cler.

4:26:35 – 4:27:190

Okay. Miss Winfrey Carter is not in. Miss Burns is not in. Miss Mhat. Yes. Mr. Feifer is not in. Mr. Jared is not in. Mr. Alamine. Yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Vote is five yes, zero no. The vote is five yes, zero no um for the call for the question. So now we're on to the roll call vote to approve the affformentioned resolutions. Roll call. Madam clerk. Miss Winfrey Carter is not in. Miss Burns is not in. Miss Mashad,

4:27:18 – 4:28:000

yes. Mr. Feifer is not in. Mr. Jared is not in. Mr. Alamy, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Vote is 5 yes, zero no. The vote is 5 yes, zero no. Appointments 25318, 25319, 25320, 25321, and 25322 have now been approved. So um what's the plan of the body for the remainder of the resolution seeing that the separators are have left the meeting make two oh wait a minute so go ahead madam uh Judy Priestley for floor I make a motion to approve the rest of the agenda.

4:27:58 – 4:28:430

All right the motion on the floor to approve the rest of the agenda which is resolution 255030350323 and 2550326 supported by the council of the first board as stated. Um, roll call. I want any discussion, gang. Any discussion first round? What about second round? Yeah, I think we already did that in special affairs. So, roll call, madam clerk, madam chair. Yeah, go ahead. Just for the record again, three26 is the the 0.1 version. Oh, my fault. To 2550 326.1. Thank you so much for the correction. Roll call. Madam Cler, Miss Burns is not in. Miss Mash, yes.

4:28:40 – 4:29:230

Mr. Mr. Feifer is not in. Mr. Jared is not in. Mr. Alamine, yes. Dr. Lewis, yes. Miss Johnson, yes. Miss Priestley, yes. Miss Winfrey Carter is not in. The vote is five yes, zero no. The vote is five yes, zero no. So resolutions 255030350323 and 25326.1 have been approved. Have been a motion to adjourn by the new vice president standing and supported by the councilman in the first war. Supported. All right. Roll call. Madam clerk. Miss Michelle.

4:29:20 – 4:30:010

Oh, excuse me. Yes. Mr. Fifer is absent. Mr. Jared is absent. Mr. Olam. Yes. Dr. Lewis. Yes. Miss Johnson? Yes. Miss Priestley? Yes, Carter is absent. Miss Burns is absent. Vote is 5 yes, zero no. The vote is 5 yes, zero no. The time is 8:46. And this official city council meeting with brand new leadership. Well, I'll say continuing leadership. Calls it to German. Congratulations, Madam President. President

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