Municipal Council - Regular Meeting

jazz dance contest in the back. Um, we are going to start our meeting today with the pledge of allegiance. Melissa, would you lead us in the pledge today? Sure. Can I put you on the spot? Yeah. All right. You got it. All right. Everyone, please stand.

Which is working. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Melissa. We now move to acceptance of the amendments and approval of the agenda for this evening or any discussion about either of them. I will move to accept the minutes and the agenda. I have a second. We have a motion, a second. All in favor, please say I.

I. Any opposed?

We have an agenda for the evening. Our 2026 regular meeting schedule are the 1st and third Tuesdays at 5:30 p.m. And our next meeting will be May 19th. Um, we'll now move to the questions and comments for the mayor and the council from anyone in the audience. Uh, this is the time that you have to, uh, approach the microphone, take 3 minutes or less, and you are welcome to bring any questions, concerns, or comments you have for us or the mayor. Um, please keep your comments at three minutes, state your name and your city of residence, and I will open the microphone. Hello, Josh from Auto from Logan. First off, the music in here. I think we need to replace it. Maybe like some rage against the machine. Get get this this house pumping. So, here we go. Um, anyway, I was here. Um, I don't know if you guys are paying attention to what happened Monday, man. Eruption. Total eruption um in Boxeler County. Crazy. It's it and it's it's really sad because um the local government is really not able to do anything and and um you know the commissioners were basically forced to to have Bob Sellers was basically forced to have to take this this deal with this company and um anyway before I watched that I've been doing a little research into how our government got to this to this point of where um um oh shoot I totally forgot the word um where capitalism has basically overpowered our governments and a friend of mine sent me a thing which is um

online called the POW the the POW documents from 1971. They were done by a um a corporate attorney who was um he was an advocate for um uh for the tobacco industry back in 1971. Later on after publishing these and it only went out to a few people back then. After publishing these, he was appointed to the uh to the Supreme Court and um under Nixon, you know, I'm not a crook Nixon. So um if you have not read these the PAL documents or dossier or whatever suggest you read them because this is how corporate America has managed to take over the will of people in our government in our local government in our state government in our federal government. It's how corp Yeah. How corporate America is so powerful. Why we experiencing everything that's happening now all so that they can make you know insane profits. Um let's see. Um his his documents were called the attack on America free enterprise system. Basically, I I kind of see it as like almost like a a weird thing of uh libertarianism. Um, you know, the free markets, but what he did is he weaponized that to make it so that yeah, the will of the people was subverted by it. So, um, Lewis Powell 1971 documents. Thank you.

Thank you, Josh. judge Johnson and I'm from Logan and I want to say that with all of the construction projects that are going on right now, I appreciate that you are a city council that invests in and appreciates maintaining our city instead of letting it get derelct. And I know that's difficult considering you're looking at a property tax increase, but the price of everything is gone up. And I appreciate that. I feel like I can trust that each of you will examine all of the evidence that you guys have and make a good decision. Um, I know that it's been difficult getting around in the valley with all of the traffic problems, but I appreciate that you guys made sure that you hired a company that puts out cones and signage for all the change traffic patterns and that you've uh responsibly done the best I feel like you could to try and um provide good trails, good safe roads, and the intersection being redone on Second East, things like that. on the pipeline project of which I know is a big thing. I appreciate that you guys put the time into doing research and being good stewards for our community.

So, thank you. Thank you, Linda. Thanks, Linda. I think I have a better opinion, I mean, attitude when I see traffic codes than I currently have because I do not have that point of view. You need to share that. You can ask my wife. I definitely say things

the the cost of the cost of maintenance is considerably less than the cost of fixing a disaster after it's happened. So So last week I got to go out with the water crews and actually work with the teams that are cleaning the sewers and then they actually run robotic cameras down through the sewers and like inspect the lines to make sure the grout's good and where there's infiltration from roots and stuff. It was fascinating. You think about I'm going out with the sewer crews at 4 in the morning and I'm like I don't know if this is a great idea but it was actually really fascinating and the work that goes into it and the technology that they use. I I was actually enthralled for an hour and a half. I just thought it was like the coolest thing. So

it was amazing. Yeah, it's so much better when you see towns that have been let go for a long enough time and that they really show that and then people don't want to move to it because it has underlying infrastructure problems and then you end up with disasters. Thank you for paying attention and staying on. I thought I was going to go down in the sewer with a shovel and a you know a hard hat and and it was cool what they were. It was really cool. I've got pictures. It's going in the next newsletter. Thanks, Linda. It's like a coloscopy for the city. Did you know every two to three mark every two to three years they go through every single sewer line.

Every two to three years. I was actually kind of blown away. I didn't realize for the minutes. Are there are there any more public comments before we Sorry, Mark. That was a great It was a great experience. I would encourage all of you to go play with the sewer crews one day. Seeing no one, we will close our public comment section and and I will turn the time to Mark, Mayor Anderson for mayor staff reports. Already I will I will keep it to myself.

So I love Thank you. So, I just want to thank the citizens of Logan and the city council and our dedicated city departments for their collaboration in establishing the balanced budget for fiscal year 2027. I'm going to apologize in advance. I have a lot to go over and some of it we absolutely have to do verbatim and some I can kind of add lib a little bit with, but I'll try to keep it at a minimum. Budgeting is the art of prioritizing limited resources. While we may not have every resource we desire, we are committed to maximizing the impact of every dollar that we do have. In our general fund, which supports essential services like police, fire, public works, and parks, we continue to utilize a target-based budgeting. This collaborative approach provides departments the flexibility to address their most critical needs while remaining strictly aligned with the strategic objectives set by the mayor and by the city council. While we remain hopeful that current local and national economic uncertainties will stabilize, we are projecting that sales tax revenue, our general fund's most significant revenue source, will remain relatively flat for fiscal year 2027. To balance this volatility, we rely on property tax as a vital stabilizing force. It is important to clarify a common misconception. Property tax revenues do not automatically rise alongside increases to property values. Unless the city adjusts the levy through the truth and taxation process, the total revenue from existing taxpayers remains flat. We believe that small incremental adjustments are better policy than implementing large disruptive rate corrections. Therefore, we are proposing a 3% increase to the property tax levy. This modest adjustment is specifically earmarked for two very critical needs. One, public safety. We're funding one additional police officer position and two, for infrastructure covering the rising costs

of citywide street lighting. Strengthening essential um to maintain the high level of service our residents expect. This budget proposes strategic additions to our workforce police department. As mentioned above, we will propose funding one police officer position through a property tax increase. Fire department, we propose adding a full-time administrative support position for fire prevention for repurposing existing part-time wages and adding modest new funding. We will improve the efficiency of our inspection and safety programs. 911 dispatch, we propose adding two full-time dispatchers. This investment will ensure adequate coverage during peak call volumes and reduce the heavy burden of mandatory overtime on our current staff. Sewer treatment. We propose a new wastewater treatment superintendent to oversee the operations and maintenance of our treatment plant. This role is essential for supervising maintenance crews, coordinating complex repairs, and ensuring the long-term reliability of our utility infrastructure. And as I found out last week, the sewer flows 24/7, 365 days a week.

A year. A year. Sorry. Yes. Thank you. That's a long week. A week. Yeah, it's a lot of weeks. But it never stops, you know. So, it's this is such an important role.

Our employees are the backbone of Logan City. To retain the talent necessary to run a leading municipality, we must remain competitive. We proposed an average 3% pay for performance increase alongside targeted market adjustments of approximately 2% to ensure our pay scales remain fair and competitive. This year, our insurance premiums increased by 10 and a half%. While the rising cost of health care remains a national challenge, the city continues to cover 100% of our health care premiums for our employees. This represents a significant benefit for our staff, particularly for those at the lower end of the pay scale, and reinforces our commitment to their well-being. This budget is a roadmap for a resilient Logan. It prioritizes public safety, maintains our infrastructure, and invests in the people who serve our community every day. I look forward to our continued work together to finalize this plan for the upcoming fiscal year. And we'll be going through the budgeting process all of this month. I know you are super excited about it. So,

I like spreadsheets.

Yeah. Yeah. I've got I've got more. So, uh the mayor intends to present a tentative budget that includes a property tax rate increase as outlined in the property tax impact schedule which reads, "The city of Logan is considering levying a property tax rate that exceeds the certified tax rate. The fiscal year 2027 proposed budget includes a property tax rate increase as follows. The approximate dollar amount of additional ad valorum tax revenue that would be generated for the city of Logan is $185,700. The approximate percentage increase in tax revenue for the city of Logan is 3.12%. The approximate percentage increase to the amount of property tax paid in total, not just the city of Logan, on an average residence is 37%. The approximate percentage increase to the amount of property tax paid in total, not just the city of Logan, on an average commercial property is.37%. The additional property tax dollars are proposed to be used as follows. For non-dep departmental fund, additional street lighting utility expenses of 54,614 and operational impact. non-EP departmental will be able to pay the full cost of calculated street lighting utility fees to the electric department. Police department fund a police officer one position for $131,86. Operational impact. The police department will be able to fund one additional position otherwise would have to be eliminated for a total of $185,700. The schedule that was just read will be available on the back table during the meeting on the finance department website and in the council packet for this meeting.

And it is on that back table right now if anybody wants a copy or needs a copy. Okay, very good. Thanks, Rich. If the city proceeds with the proposed tax increase, Logan City will notice the public and hold a public hearing tentatively planned for Tuesday, August 11th, 2026 at 6:00 p.m. That was a lot, but that's all of it. So, yeah, we didn't do that for fun. Yeah. No, that is sounded like fun. Yes,

I'm sure the public loved it. Those were all new requirements for going through truth and taxation. So that is why all those statements were made. They're all statutoily required. And on top of that, I'm required to send in a video of the mayor making that statement as evidence that they were made. So it's lots of fun. Can you give it like a cool intro and outro then? Yeah, we really can't. And there's no walk. Can I ask a question? Oh, I was going to say what what point do we ask questions or is that better served during the budget sessions on the intermediate intermediate Tuesdays? Yeah.

Yeah, probably that's the best place, but you can ask them anytime at your meeting. So, if you have questions, I'm Yeah. Yeah. Um I'm I'm open to a couple questions. So, yeah, I I understand from the mayor that he's adding quite a few positions. What are we cutting? Because we haven't had any more money other than this intended increase. So, those increases are in various funds. The 911 obviously is funded by the 91 911 charges to all the other cities. Yeah. So, those two positions are in that fund, right?

The sewer treatment is funded through the utilities. So really the general fund what we're talking about is the police officer position that would be funded by property tax. The fire department position that was that is funded by um additional funds that they've been allocated through the target targeted base or target based budgeting philosophy and they're cutting part-time funds. So that's consolidating some positions. Yeah. And then the last one was was there three? Maybe they're just two. That was just the two.

So, as far as what's being cut, I think as we look through the budget and as departments make presentations, every year they have to prioritize because we just don't have enough funding. But I don't know of a big item that is being eliminated off the top of my head. What was said was that we were going to fund a police officer position, otherwise it would have to be eliminated. How can you how can you fund something that doesn't exist and then say you're going to eliminate it? We just wouldn't have it. So this is the so this is that statutory language that's required. Okay.

So what we are required to do is say the department for which the property tax increase is proposed, what it would be used for and the operational impact if that property tax increase is not passed. And so that is what that is the kind of the technicality that we are meeting. We are saying uh that the property tax increase would pay for a police officer position. If the property tax increase is not passed that position is not able to be funded. Okay. That's what that's intended to say. I mean it awkward. My last question. Yeah. But

um within the within the confines of the budget, what happened to the airport money that we don't don't pay anymore? Nothing specific other than it went for all general fund items. So I didn't we just eliminated it from the expenditure side of the equation, calculated all the revenues, calculated all the expenses. So it was allocated to the departments proportionally. It was It was And that was wasn't that about 100,000? Yeah. 100,000. Exactly.

Yeah. So without that, the budget would be $100,000 less and departments proportionally would receive $100,000 less. Whatever that turns out to be 50,000 to the So do we know how that proportion was allocated? I do. I can provide that to you if you'd like. That would be great. I would appreciate that. I would like to see that. Can you give a little more explanation on the lighting that's going to happen? because that seems like a weird place to me to be putting extra funding instead of increasing wages or something like that to keep police force on or

so the general fund pays for all things general government police fire public works parks and wreck community development and for things like this in here the lighting in this building the electric utilities all those types of things and we to pay for general transportation infrastructure, roads and streets, sidewalks, curbs, gutter, uh bike paths, all those fun types of things are all paid by the general fund and street lighting. So that's part of general fund expenses. Even though we have an electric department, we still pay them for the cost of providing street lighting. Other cities pay Utah Power. They have no choice. Here we pay Logan City Power. We don't individually meter all of those streets or sorry all those street lights. We do meter some because they're newer. Most of them are just wired into our system and they're not metered individually. Instead, what we do is we do a study that estimates the cost of maintaining all those street lights because our electric department does that for us. mean that estimates the cost of all of that all the KWHs that are used throughout the year and then we pay that to the electric department separately rather than paying it monthly um and metering it having it show up on the utility bill. It just shows up as a an accounting mechanism for making sure we're paying our utility costs for the city of

So where is it being I mean it has it's it's been me being metered somewhere. It is not metered. There's no meter. They just get free power. No, the street lights turn on when they're supposed to and they turn off when they're supposed to. There's no meter metering it. It's just wired directly into our electrical infrastructure. So, tell me if I have a street up. Sorry, you may have in all of your remarks read this before.

I know. the 54,000 is that for based on the study and the metering anticipated additional needs or cost associated with um are there additional lights that we like I guess a year-over-year comparison of that lighting line item that we are paying in our general fund and then back to the lighting electric is that an increase this coming year and that's why there's a request and then if there is an increase is what is do we know where that increase is coming from?

Uh yes. So we update this study periodically. We don't do it every year because it's rather uh entailed but we do it probably every 3 to four years we'll update the study. So part of the increase is due to the rate increases over the last four years. The other part of the rate increase is due to street lights that we either did not identify during the previous study that we do in conjunction with the electric farm. By the way, they were able to identify more individual street lights than they had identified before. And so there was an increase in number plus all of the new development that happened over the last four years and additional street lights that have been added. All of that uh came into it as well. Our previous study was $216,000. That was what we were estimating and it was actually previous to that because we we do increase it year-over-year just based on rate increases. We don't do a full-blown study.

Got it. But it is now I don't have my exact number but it's around like 290 I believe is the new number. And when was the last time it was done? I don't have the exact date. Okay. But it was four or five years ago. Okay. So every four to five years we do a study. Yeah. We we do incrementally raise that annually because we know there's an increase in cost relative to overall cost and this is the difference between four years ago and now based on development additional lighting and that gap knowing more information.

Now there are new managers that are involved in the electric department that my staff interacted with. The last person who did the study in my department is no longer there. So the new people may have uh added to the difference. I did send them back twice and three times and make sure because I didn't like that it increased that much. I wanted to make sure it was correct, but I I didn't like that it increase that much. It's almost a 25% I mean it's a 25%. Yeah, it's pretty our citizens are saying too.

Exactly. or maybe at another time it'd be worthwhile understanding better too like are we using the best you know um technology that we can that's affordable for lighting that we're again separate conversation but I mean I want a number like this so let's do it when you see a number like this it's worth going what's you know what are we using can we do better better lighting energy efficiency Yes, we've done a better job going over the last several years, but yes, we can certainly do better there, too. Yeah. Any more questions for

I will say not all cities account for this this way that have electric departments. Some of them don't necessarily pay for it, but that's wrong. Just the cost and the state auditor's office has told us that is wrong. And so that's why we pay for it. Got it. Any other questions for Rich? It's a lot. It's not increase. It's a lot. I didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah. Have some more time.

Part of the increase though was we are we were consolidating. We did discover we we had a whole we were doing this like three different ways. Part of it was being metered, part was not being metered. So we took everything that was being metered and shoved it into this study. So part of that that could be 10 15,000. So it is part of it part of the increase. Okay. lighting that was individually metered previously and paid for in various places. Huh? It made total sense to me. So, what we have No, you just said we didn't meter it and now you say part of it.

Actually, I didn't and we can go back to the record. I did say some of it has been metered and it has been done different ways, but it is I heard that too. We some of the newer subdivisions, some of those did come with meters because developers put in. But no, I I did make it very clear some of these things have been metered in the past. I just wanted to say some of it was metered in the past and paid out of a separate account has been rolled into this study. So that does account for part of the increase. So what happened to the money that we were paying the other part out of? I could go look. I believe we decreased those budgets accordingly.

So, did you need more than 50,000 then? I'm sorry. Because well, if you decrease those budgets, you had that money to apply to this combined group. Yes. The increase is like 80,000. The increase we're asking for through profit tax is 54. Okay. And being my first budget process on council, um I want to make sure I don't take too much time with questions tonight and understand um we will have some other opportunities to ask other questions to every every department. Okay.

Yeah. Every department. I know that we're the whole I just want like what should be sort of shared tonight or discussed versus Yeah, we we'll go through each department each individually. That's what those extra I know that. Yeah. And I'm just thinking about the overall there are things that are helpful I think for people to understand and for clarification relative to and in our first budget meeting you'll have an opportunity to ask Rich some of those questions and at the end you'll get to ask him more questions if you want.

Well things that we don't have to discuss tonight that I'm thinking about that we can share. I think it's just good for citizens to hear and to make sure I understand it correctly are you know when we look at our property tax overall our Logan city is I think about 12% of the overall property tax that we are paying right and so um that's something for people to understand um and then also as I had asked you last year when the bud budget because I was trying to understand you know come to better understand our budget is um uh reviewing and I you put together a good list last year of comparison of um property tax rates of our municipality versus other cities of somewhat comparable size around the state of Utah which I think is really useful information um so that you can see how we line up um and we do quite well um

we're very low yeah and so it's I think those are just some component components that are important in the con in the larger context of an increase in addition to the perennial issue that I I never feel like I can wrap my head around that we are always going to face which is the cost of healthcare um and and how much that impacts overall baseline budget. So, those are just some things that I think are good to potentially um share out or discuss further, but I'll stop there. Can I make one other I apologize. I know this is too long. Yes, but this one's important for Yes, you can.

So, that whole uh property tax impact schedule where we have detailed out what we wanted to pass the property tax increase for. If council wants to change or decrease that, that's great. We have to we would have to do this noticing again prior to June 13th, just so we're aware. If we wanted to increase it, we definitely have to renotice this and reput it on our agenda. It's it's new and so I'm not 100% certain exactly how this is supposed to proceed, but as I read that law, if council wanted to change what the mayor has proposed,

you have 5 weeks to do it. Yeah. We we would have to do this again differently. Whereas a couple years ago when that happened, it was we proposed two or three budgets and then we approved the one in Yeah. Now, I think we we'd still have to notice the higher number. like you can't notice this number and then raise it. You can notice this number and decrease it and that's fine and that's still perfectly fine. But if we want to substantially change this, we probably have to notice it and do it again. Yeah. Just so you're aware. If you don't or like say if you want to decrease it, that's totally okay. Just not. Yeah. So, so essentially they're telling us we have to vote on it before we vote on it. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

The mayor had to throw out his cards long before you know, we had an opportunity to discuss it as a city. But I mean, if we discuss it, we decide we want to change it, we have to go through the whole process and say, "Okay, now it's three." And then if we had something happen between then and when we have the hearing, the hearing is we've already agreed on it. And you have a public hearing and the public hearing is just for show. They they've basically handcuffed us to do it a certain way and that's the way public's not going to like

I mean you can you can still lower it after the public hearing us. You just can't and I think it's highly unlikely the public is going to come to us and request that we double whatever rate is proposed. Highly unlikely. So I think it's an I think not awkward because we could still adjust based on how she was saying we have already voted on it as a council. We've already approved it and so really could we lower it after public comment? Mhm. Yes. Even though we've already voted on it. I mean, we haven't officially voted on it, but you just said if we lowered it, we'd have to read notice it and do the whole thing.

Sorry, I I may have misspoke. If we increase it, we have to. If we substantially change it, we probably should. If we lower it, we don't have to lower it. What's the difference between raising it and substantially changing it? Probably percentage. Yeah. I Well, it's really the items that you identify here. like if you were changing and saying um we're not gonna fund a police officer, we're gonna fund a firefighter or I'm not trying to I'm not starting to fight here. Those are dangerous words. If you were doing that, can we find the guy that does both?

I I you may we may have to redo this part just because Well, I'm not even sure. The the problem is this law was passed under the mayor or the council manager form of government, not the strong mayor council form of government. So there's some problems in here. But I would think what we'd have to do if council want to go another direction. We need to redo this. Yeah. Yeah. We have to decide which direction we want to go before. Let's talk about it at our budget meeting. So, so how does that routine? Yeah.

What you don't understand is this has become so complicated that Rich's head has almost exploded the last 3 weeks. And I'm not joking. Like, it is so complex. And that's why a lot of the stuff that I had to read might seem a little archaic and difficult wording, but it is exactly the way that it has to be for us to get this done. So, my apologies that it is confusing and difficult. It has been unbelievably difficult for us to put this together. Yeah, we'll talk next week. Yep. Come to the budget here. Moving on, we're going to go to council business and I'm going to give Jeie a moment to give us an update on planning commission. It'll be quick. They can planning commission.

Perfect. Uh I love that. Moving on to our next item. Uh we have council announcements. Um we're going to try to keep this short. Does anyone have anything I do that they need to share about the the EIS? Uh, yep.

Okay. Um Paul uh texted me today just to remind me that um the Logan River waters shed project which everyone is fairly familiar with um has come to the point where the draft environmental impact statement is will be published and available for public comment on this coming Friday, May 8th through June June 22nd. If you have any interest in what I commonly refer to as the PL566 project, but I found out that there's more than one that has that number. So, it's the Logan River Watershed Project with Crockett Avenue Irrigation Company. Um, if you please go to the um Oh, what would be the website?

NRCS. NRC. Thank you. It's the NRCS website where it will be published. You can read it and make comment there. All comments are collected. There will also be a public meeting on the evening of May 20th from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at Logan High School. So, if you would care to share your thoughts, um we would all appreciate having them. I sit on the water district board as well, so um we'll hear all about them. That's it.

I have two very short ones. Uh we had a website redesign committee and we should have a new website soon. It's getting better. It's looking great. Um and I recently met with community development uh about our wetland code that we had a lot of fun with a few months ago. Uh and that's making progress as well and hopefully we'll see that back here soon. So those have been my big things last week. Anything else? I'm going to give a big one just because I wasn't here at the last meeting, but at our parks and rec advisory board meeting, Ed gave a report about the new Spring Creek trail that was completed this lovely winter that we had. They were able to pave it and everything. It's out by Trapper Park.

I don't know the best way to describe it, but it's a trail that goes off instead of going to Trapper Park west and you go between the springs and the trailer park and there's a trail that goes down. It goes down to a spring. There's a nice loop. It's a really nice trail. I've been on it a few times already and I'm really liking it. So, I say go check it out. It's a nice connection to our river trail and a great addition to our city.

Thank you. Um, quickly from me, I um, Melissa went as well to the hydro plant tour, um, and learned about the history of that and how it's a reliable city-owned source of energy um, and how it operates. So, that was really educational and cool to see. I also met our fire chief to learn more about um there was some questions around uh the role of um the city with fire prevention being adjacent to um national forest. So I wanted to kind of learn more about what role we play in that. Um, and we're having some conversations about how to also let um our neighborhood chairs uh be more informed about things like um we always talk about water wise plants, but they're also um I think they call them firewise plants um for lack of better, but thinking about plants and um things you can do um to um be mindful, especially if you're in some of those perimeter areas. So that's it for me.

Thank you. We'll move on to our last council business item. Uh and this is just an announcement for our budget workshops this month. Those will be May 12th and May 26th at 5:30 p.m. here in the council chambers. So if you want to come go over uh the very thick city budget with us, um we would love to see you here next week uh at 5:30. Um we will move on to our action items and our first one is resolution 2609. Uh and this is uh continued from last two weeks ago. I say last week, two weeks ago, but it's our general plan update. And Russ, thank you.

Good evening, council. All nine of the discussed changes um at our last meeting were made to the final draft and included in the packet. Those changes included the future land use plan amendment for the fourth north corridor and the south highway 89 Lrand Street area. Uh I can go over anything that you would like. I have a PowerPoint prepared if we need it. Um but that's my report. I'm happy to answer any questions.

It's been a good process. So I don't have any further questions. cuz I called you today to ask the only ones I had. Not happening. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to do something. This I say this is not a public hearing cuz we held that two weeks ago and it is an action item. I'm going to move that we approve resolution 26-09. I'd love to as amended. What? after 17 months. Jeie's smiling about that. She is. She's so happy. I read every

Do we want to have further do we want to have further discussion before we call a vote? Any further comments, thoughts? Thank you guys. I I'll just say thank you then. You got your staff has put in so much dang time on this. Yeah, I know I've read it a bunch, but I'm pretty sure you've read it 10 times more than I have. So, thank you for all your hard work and effort and it's been a lot. So, and I think change in the middle and what and a regime change towards the end. Yeah. No, there's too many changes. I'm going to Arizona. Mike's fault. Yeah. Yeah. But thank you. So,

you're welcome. It was a collective effort. All the departments participated. Yeah. It takes a team to write something like that for sure. With that, uh, we will call a vote on resolution 26-09. All those in favor of approving our general plan, please say I. I. I. Any opposed? Our motion passes. Resolution 26-09. We have a general plan. New general plan. Woohoo. Katie seconded. Yes. Katie seconded. Yes. We have uh we have general plan. We have direction for the next 5 years. It's done. 20 with an update. The next five. With an update. Now we get to work on changing the ordinances to match the general plan. Yeah, lots of work to be done now.

Um, our next item is resolution 26-12 with Russ Aena and this is our parks and wreck and golf course and cemetery and field use fees. Russ. Yes. You give us a short synopsis on what we discussed two weeks ago.

Sure. Um, thank you council. Um, two weeks ago, um, I presented to you, uh, three exhibits, uh, proposing to increase, um, uh, certain fees in the parks recreation department. Those included, um, the Logan River golf course, um, uh, the, uh, uh, selected field use fees for the in the parks area, and cemetery fees. Um we took comment from you. Um there was a recommendation to um um uh retitle uh the large group use um area. Um and so we've done that for exhibit B and I'm here tonight to answer any further question. I know that there is a public hearing for that. I'll try to answer any question questions that uh you or the public may have. Any questions for Russ before we open up to the public comments? Okay. Thank you, Russ. This is a public hearing, so anyone in the audience who has comments or questions on resolution 26-12 is welcome to come to the microphone, state your name and city of residence, and please take three minutes or less. And the time is now yours. Seeing no one, we will close the public hearing and bring it back to the council for further discussion or a motion. I listened to a podcast about cemeteries this week while the council's thinking um about what happens to cemeteries when they run out of money and go out of business. It was a very interesting podcast while I mowed my lawn.

My wife was not interested in hearing the update when I got inside. So, sorry you guys all got it. He didn't really get You listen to a podcast about when cemeteries go out of business. Yes, I did. You need another job. It nicely lined up with an agenda item. It did. That's good. I move we approve resolution 26-12. I second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed? Resolution 26-12 passes. We have to keep our cemetery in business. Yes, we do. I'll uh Thank you.

See you soon. Thank you, Russ. Uh our next item is resolution 26-13. This is another public hearing, and I'll let Rich run us through the list of budget adjustments here. We went through it last week in detail, but to review, request to appropriate 589,920 toward phase two of the bank stabilization project on the Logan River. Request to appropriate 21,000 for for a fire department grant for wild land shelters. Request to appropriate $340 of donated funds toward youth council expenses. Request to appropriate 100,000 risk management reserves towards center street safety ballards. Request to appropriate 2.435 million. Uh transfer of general fund reserves to the capital projects fund to accommodate changes in the general fund reserve calculation. This is an estimate. We don't know what the figure is. We'll find out at the end of the year.

The final count is is taken. I'm assuming at that point we'll see another budget adjustment to balance this out. Uh probably. Yes. Yeah. Unless you're really good at estimating. It'll just go to Yeah. Stay tuned. Request appropriate 88,222 state alcohol enforcement funds. We receive these each year from the state for the sale of liquor. Uh this is our allocation to uh for law enforcement, DUI shifts, those types of things. Has that money gone down or up over the years? Seems like it's gone down just a bit because you hear all these reports that people are drinking less these days. I'm assuming that results in less money.

This is a little bit more than than previous years. It's because we're active. We try to to really force the alcohol like some of the other jurisdictions. So sometime we've had 65,000. Now it's up to 88,000. Okay. Next year be right back down to 60. So, do they reimburse you for your overtime shifts or do they give you money based on your activity or do they I don't when you said we're really active. Yeah. I didn't know what that meant.

If we're talking about the alcohol grant, we get the money in advance. We pass it through council and then we draw from that for any alcohol enforcement that we do. It also allows us to buy some camera equip equipment for the vehicles if our bodies to to capture the evidence of alcohol and or drug but the amount doesn't how is the amount calculated by the state do you know that will be a question for the state I just know that when we're very active if possible the more you do the more you get is essentially what we're kind of looking at there oh no exactly how it's calculated

okay but you do know that that's how you're getting it is the more you do the more you get that would be a part of it I think part of it is also population and a few other factors go into it as well yeah okay that was my question overall sales sorry that was a tangent to interrupt you rich thank you for humoring me

he was 20827 for police overtime shifts those are those relatively normal In the course of business, a request appropriates 47,126. As the chief said, sometimes we appropriate these for specific items. Uh alcohol enforcement reserves toward lighting systems for patrol vehicles. It's an allowable expense. Uh 50,240 for golf course expenses associated with running a longer golf season. And lastly, 13,000 EMS grant for emergency preparedness. We've received about the same amount for the past several years. Any questions for Rich besides those that I interrupted him with uh before we open up a public hearing? Okay, this is a public hearing. Anyone who wishes to comment or has questions on resolution 26-13 is welcome to come to the microphone. Please state your name and city of residence and take three minutes or less. Nobody ever makes eye contact with me when I

Linda will Linda will come make comment. Thank you, Linda. Hi, I'm Linda Johnson from Logan. Very solid last name. What? You have a very solid last name. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um I was not able to come to the last council meeting and uh wanted more clarification on what the center street safety ballards because I am not familiar with that and I travel center street every single day. You won't see them. Yeah. That's what's cool about them. They're ballards that I don't somewhat on the gaps, but they're um removable ballards so that when we have

they're retractable retractable even. We wish we could afford the retractable ones, but we can't. Are they not retractable? They're not. I was like, they're manually retractable. So, they're for safety when center closed down for events like pumpkin festival. So, it's specifically between center and made on center street rather than putting up the concrete barriers. These will be permanent installations then removable, but you can put them in the street to stop cars and a car can't go through them. Easier to put out than the than the concrete. We put concrete barriers out right now. We just put cones, don't we?

A little bit more. It's a safety cars. Yeah, but we don't actually have concrete to increase safety during events overall. And they will be removable and stored somewhere else then. Correct. In the gutter. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure we'll store them somewhere. I don't know where. Yeah, they will be stored in the public works building obviously. They have a big building with Okay. And are they replacing something that exists then or this is just a new purchase? And will they be used anywhere else other than this small stretch like for melted? They have to have a thing in this in the pavement. And yeah,

that helps to add to the sturdiness of them. Yeah, that help they like, you know, it's like you they bolt in or something because it because that laced off a car so that then the main reason for this purchase is for increased safety overall. Will it save them city money down the line or what was the impetus I guess was behind wanting to change over

that? The impetus is when we have big events and there's more than a handful on Center Street, we have to have a large police presence there just in case we have somebody that decides to drive through the event. This will prevent that from happening in the first place. So, it's just going to make all of our events downtown a lot uh less likely to have injuries if somebody decides. So, this is then ultimately to prevent something that has maybe happened other places in the United States that or could be a tragedy or whatever. Yeah, correct. Okay. Yeah, cuz I mean I take my kids to those events and I love those events, but I just wasn't sure. So, that block specifically, these are

Yeah. permanent cement structures and then there will be something that goes over it that will be stored elsewhere when an event is not Paul do you want to describe what we're installing do you have other questions Linda before I bring him up I think that was the biggest one where I was like I don't even know what this is the last one we're going to send some more information out about it too so there's no that's great I just wanted to know the reason and specifically what it was and if it would have a broader use let's see if there's any public comment if that's okay, Paul. And then I'm guessing there's not five people looking at me. Anyone else have questions or comments? Okay, go.

We'll close the public hearing. Paul, will you come answer that question for us? Thank you. Sorry. I just wanted to make sure that there were more questions. We got them all at once. Absolutely. I think your explanations hit all the points. Very chaotic. I followed them all. Uh, correct. It's a a security ballard, which is just a George has a picture. Yeah. Oh, there we go. Oh,

a secure structure to hopefully stop an accidental or intentional vehicle or anything else into an area. They have a sleeve that is mounted in the ground. Um that has a lid on it so that the way the actual baller can be installed and taken out quickly. We'll have a traffic control trailer they are stored in. So when we when we're set up for an event, it' be done quickly as opposed to trying to block things with an ambulance or a fire truck or a which cost anything else. Yeah. Um what were the other questions I was going to answer? I think you got it. Yeah. Thank you.

If if we had one person run into one of our emergency vehicles there, it would cost more than $100,000 that the bollocks will cost one time. So these will be much less expensive to replace. Any other questions for Rich or thoughts or comments or a motion? I have a motion to approve if I need my glasses cuz I can't see the resolution 2613. Resolution 2613. I'll second.

Any further comments, questions, or concerns before we vote? All those in favor of approving resolution 26-13, please say I. I. Any opposed? Resolution 26-13 passes. And that concludes our action items and public hearings for the night. We'll move on to our workshop items. And our first one is another resolution and budget adjustment. And I will toss it back over to Rich for us to grill him a few more times tonight. It's a good month for that. I'm going to skip the first one. I'll come back to that. But request appropriate 10,000. Wait, what's this first one then?

Oh, sorry. No, it's a really small one, but I'm going to skip it. 10,000 for the fire department for uh wildland deployment equipment. Uh 52,73 for 911 reserves towards Spillman software subscription subscription costs. Filman kind of changed how they did things. Christiey's here to speak to the details if you want to know, but they kind of changed how they're doing things. It's going to cost us a little bit more in the current year and then ongoing we should be okay. Uh and that's from 901 reserves where we have uh have this available request appropriate 14,392 police department grant by the state of Utah for alcohol and drugfree uh committee funds for police equipment. Oh, and then back to the first one. Thank you.

A request to appropriate 6 million of class C reserves toward eligible costs associated with public works campus project. As you'll know in previous council meetings, we've appropriated 54 million toward this project. That's a lot of money. But it's a big project. It houses all of the city's equipment. Our entire ability to respond not necessarily from public safety, but from public works and parks and wreck, electric currently, as well as as others and occasionally other pieces of equipment as well. It houses all of that. So, the quest is is to appropriate $6 million from class C that would help build parts that pertain to transportation, including salt and equipment storage and those types of things. It is an allowable cost, but it does bring the total project up to 60 million. Project creep happens. This one has creeped up. We do think we're at a place where we are very hopeful. We've we've identified all of the costs and at this point things would have to be eliminated before we'll come back to those.

Well, we identified that potential in the original budget. So, thank you. I but I want to make sure I didn't misspe. There are a couple more elements to this project that if it made sense, we would bring back to council like solar capacity on top of buildings. It wouldn't be necessarily run by a city, but instead it would be a solar project of the electric fund. Therefore, if they deem it viable, we may come back to council. I just want to make sure you know that I'm not saying we're never coming back ever. Ever for this project, but I really hope it is less.

Can you ever say never? Never say never. No. Any questions for Rich? just so that they know that we we did meet in groups of two because we can't meet in greater larger groups and had a review of this and got to ask a lot of questions. So, we don't have a lot of more questions to ask, right? So, you guys all met without me. Yeah, we did. Yeah. How dare you? You didn't get called in. Well, you and I were in the meeting. I know. I was like meeting with you. We met about them. That's really

about I was by myself. So, as it should. Uh, thank you, Rich. We'll move on to resolution 26-14. Um, and we have uh Assistant Chief Lacroy here to fill in for Chief Thompson about and and he's I was like, this says just Chief Thompson here. Chief's way of family. We'll excuse him for family things and yes, happy to have you.

Well, thank you. Robert Lqual, the operations chief for Logan Fire. I'm here to discuss the resolution for um zoning out areas um to restrict areas for fireworks. This is the same map we've had for the several the past few years. You guys should see it in your packet already, the map that's been zoned out. Um the plan is to increase social media for fireworks this year. Sometime in the middle of June, we'll start um our social media campaign for restricting fireworks and the dangers of fireworks, especially in the climate of the decreased snow pack and uh low moistures, severe drought. Um you know, we're anticipating a busy fire season this year. Um so here to answer any questions on that.

Are you anticipating that the state might I don't think so. The state the state only the state likes to sell fireworks, you know, for for revenue, but uh we can only restrict areas. We can't prohibit the sale. So, we can just prohibit the lighting of they can buy all you can buy them all. Put them in Wyoming and burn their state down. Can't them. You haven't been here in years past. I don't think my neighborhood commits me to ask this question every year.

And you get every year you get the same answer. And every year I'm probably going to get the same answer. Uh I live just west of 10th west at like 700ish south 600 southish west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west west of woodruff basically. Uh and my neighborhood is always complaining that they're not allowed to shoot out fireworks um west of 10th west and they always ask can we reconsider that? No. Have we consider the question I got asked this year was have we considered like allowing ground only out there? No. Because you know how once you open the door, right? I mean, then they'll there'll be aerials. Last year, I think we we've

we came across a couple of in the restricted areas too of people lighting. So, especially, am I allowed to make comments off the record? I love sleeping at night and so I'm fine with the restrictions, but I have a strong neighborhood preference of, "Hey, Mike, will you fix this for us?" And I say I will ask. Yes. I think they all go to Woodfield Elementary parking lot. They do. I'll go to Wood Elementary Park. She They're all in my neighborhood. Yeah. And she walk by her and I go to sleep. You get to enjoy the think the state will. No, I don't think so. Okay. That's crazy to me. That is crazy. It might be. I mean, you will see, you know, when the 4th of July comes around, but uh I I don't anticipate. Depends on what the weather does.

Are you anticipating more fireworks this year with it being the 250th? Maybe. I'm just I'm worried about the fire season to be honest with you. This is my 34th year. I am retiring June 5th. You are June 5th. Yeah. Congrat. So, uh thank you. So, what you're saying? I know. I know. So, I'm Yes. Um so, anyway, so but uh and I came I did 29 years in California before coming to to Logan. And so, you're going to do two retirements and you just barely got here. And I don't know about that, but I know before fire season. It's uh it's going to be a crazy shooting fireworks to retire after fires. I know. That's what they're trying to do. That's why I'm smiling. I know.

So, are you going to be shooting out fireworks instead of No, I'm just kidding. You've been fortunate. Thank you. Any other questions for assistant chief lack? All right. Thank you guys. Thank you. Okay. We will have an action item on that in two weeks. Other considerations before we adjourn. Okay. Well, we will see you all next week for a budget hearing. So exciting. I knew you'd get to you'd like that after. Yeah. If you guys push us along, thank all your questions.