Zoning & Planning - Special Meeting

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU ALOHA GOOD AFTERNOON. 1:37 CALL MEET EON BUDGET MAC E'O BACK TO ORDER. WE WILL CONTINUE ON PAGE 8 OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET. PROPOSED AMENDMENTS CD2 WORKSHEETS. STARTING OIJ U PAGE 8 THROUGH 16, PUBLIC SAFETY TO HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I GO NOT SEE ACTING CHIEF THANKU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US. I'M NOT THIEWR IF YOU HEARD, ASKING DEPARTMENTS TO GIVE DR., ABOUT A 3 MINUTE OVER VIEW AND MEMBERS CAN ASK QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THAT. ALOHA. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAJOR HIRONAKA,.

Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON. BUDGET CHAIR. OKAMOTO. CHAIR WATERS. AND REST OF THE COUNCIL. I AM RYAN HIRONAKA MARRIAGE OF HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT MAJOR. FINANCE DIVISION. SO IF REVIEW, OF THE AMENDMENTS, PROPOSED FOR CD2, DEPARTMENT BLEEFS ADDRESS MAJOR CONCERN WES HAVE THE AMENDMENTS THAT WENT INTO CD1. BELIEVES AND WE WILL IF IT GOES IN THIS FORUM, DEPARTMENT WILL WORK WITH THE BUDGET THAT IS OUTLINED AS FOR THE CD2. WITH THAT, I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MAJOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER PINE.

Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU SO MUCH. JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, WHO RAW WE ACTUALLY HAVE AGREEMENT HERE AND I DID MEET WITH CHIEF AVANALL OF YOUR CONCERN. HERE TO HELP SUPPORT W WANT YOU GUYS TO SUCCEED. TALKED YOU LOT OF NEEDED THING CHANGES INNED DEPARTMENT IS NOT AGAINST THOSE CHANGES. IT'S JUST HOW WE WORK THROUGH IT. I DID AGREE THAT COME JULY, WE'LL HAVE A RESOLUTION SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN REGULARLY UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON HOW THE FUNDS WERE EXPENDED TO EXECUTE THE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES FROM THE VACANCY TASK FORCE. SO I JUST THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR BEING FORTHRIGHT WITH ME AND HEARING MY THOUGHTS OSBORNE WELL. WORKING WITH ME TO MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE I THINK ALL YOU HAVE US WANT THE SAME GOAL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU CHAIR.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU CHAIR. WITH REGARD TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE VARIOUS BONUS PROGRAMS THAT ARE HERE, IT'S STRUCTURED AT 1,000 UPON RECRUITS SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF ACADEMY AND 1,000 UPON COMPLETION OF ONE YEAR OF SERVICE. GIVEN THAT THE BUDGET IS FOR ONE YEAR, WOULD THAT SECOND THOUSAND DOLLARS NEED TO BE ENCUMBERED BY JULY 30 OF 2027? OR ARE WE NOW EXPECTING US TO HAVE TO FUND THE SECOND ININSTALLMENT IN THE FY '28 BUDGET? Testifier: LIKELY HAVE TO BE FUNDED IN THE FUTURE YEARS. WHEN THE BENCHMARK IS IN. Chair Okimoto: Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: AT THAT GOT IT.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO.

Councilmember Cordero: THANTHANK YOU CHAIR. HI MAJOR. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND CD2. FOR HPD. I DO THINK THAT WE CAN LOOK TO MAKE FURTHER APPROPRIATIONS IN SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY POLICING. KNOW WE'VE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS INCLUDING WITH YOUR OTHER MARILYNS IN YOUR DIVISION TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN NEEDED SUPPORT COMMUNITY POLICING I KNOW IT'S NOT IN THE ACCEPTED AMENDMENTS BUT I DO, NOTE THAT OUR COMMUNITY POLICING THEY'RE USED BEYOND COMMUNITY POLICING. USED FOR ENFORCEMENT. TRAFFIC, SPECIAL EVENTS AND WHATEVER YOU NEED THEM. BUT ESPECIALLY WHERE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE. ON ENFORCEMENT AND SPECIAL EVENTS ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS. THEY ALSO ARE FOCUSED ON DIRECT CONTACT WITH OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD MAKE DIRECT RECOMMENDATION EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AND MAKES MAKES THIS YEAR CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THAT DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY IS WHAT CONTINUES TO STRONG PARTNERSHIP THAT HPD HAS AND PERSPECTIVE OF HPD. THAT HPD HAS. TO THE GREATER COMMUNITY. AND ESPECIALLY IN PLACE LIKE KALIHI, HAS CONTINUED TO GROW AND FTE BETTER. GUARANTEED BETTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. DECADE AFTER GENDER EQUITY DECADE EVEN WITH A DECADE. $280,000 FOR ALM THE 8 PATROL DISTRICTS WOULD GO TO BETTERING. WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE. REGARDING WPT IN GENERAL.

Chair Okimoto: NOT IN GENERAL AT THIS TIME. APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION THIS COUNCIL PUTS INTO OUR INPUT. REGARDING THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED WHEN THEY WERE PROPOSED.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO WANT TO THANK YOU THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA, AND HER OFFICE. INOUYE YOU GUYS WORKED REALLY CLOSELY AND, YOU MET WITH MY OFFICE AS WELL. TRIED TO REALLY HARD TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S POINT OF VIEW. AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I THANKFUL FOR THE COLLABORATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT GASHING US AND THANK FACE MASK AGAIN MUSIC TO MY AREAS SAY THANK YOU, WE WORK WITH YOU GUY ANDING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS PRESENTED TO US. WITH REGARDS TO THE CPT, TALKED ABOUT THIS. THE I DO APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO PUTTING THAT IN. ALSO VERY SPECIAL PART OF DISTRICT IN MY AREA AS WILL. BUT I WANT THE TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T CUT FUNDING FOR THAT. ALTHOUGH TALKING WITH YOU GUYS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE KEPT FUNDING IN PLACE BUT ALSO BE MINDFUL. TY TO NOT ACCEPT EXTENDED OR AMENDMENTS TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT BUT I DO CONCUR WITH COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO THAT THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR IT COMMUNITY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WORKING WITH US. ANY FOLLOW-UP? TOO TUPOLA U U.

Councilmember Tupola: PUSH THROUGH NEW C NEWCOMBE CHAN CHIEF CLONES.CHOSEN. SOME OF THE PORTIONS WHAT WCT ESM DOSE 89 DAY CONTRACT HIRES POSED TO FULL-TIME PA PATROL OFFICE BE IN THAT ROLE SO THERE IS A GOOD USE OF MONEY BUT THAT BEER LEAVING OUR PATROL OFFICE FOR ACTUALLY REASONED REEPIDEMIOLOGY SPIRIT OF GOD TO CASE. I WOULD AGREE CPTEL HONOULIULI PART OF COMMUNITY. EXAMPLE PENT THOSE FUNDS IS STHAIG HOPE WE CAN LOOK INTO NEXT YEAR FOR THE BUDGET I DO SUPPORT THEM AND THANK THEM ALL THEY DO. THANK YOU CHAIR ARER.

Chair Okimoto: COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. EL FURTHER DISCUSSION? MEMBERS? THANK YOU MAJOR HEIR NATASHA A, CHAIR ACCEPTS AMENDMENTS TO HAPPENED LISTED ON PAGE THE 8 THROUGH 16. HPD. HAVE DISCUSSION ITEM ON THAT PART.

Councilmember Cordero: I'M SORRY. DISCUSSION ON ACCEPTANCE. I DO WANT TO NOTE, I DO RECOGNIZES MAJOR HIRONAKA IMAGED CD1, THAT THE THEY ARE LOOKING TO HOPEFULLY LEAPTS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO $20 MILLION, BUT NO WE DO I DO HAVE NET THAT HPD DID LAPSE $20,283,055 TO $78 FI 78, 2025. I THINK THAT 280, $238,000 DEDICATED TO OUR COMMUNITY LISTING WOULDN'T TAKE AWAY FROM SUCH A BIG LAPSES. WHETHER THEY LAPSE A MILLION OR $500,000. OR EVEN $100,000. SO I WANTED TO NOTE THAT. AND ALSO, CONTINUE TO KEEP WATCHING HOW MUCH THEY LAPSE. BUT WE KEEP ALLOWING HPD TO BE EGREGIOUS WITH THEIR LAPSES IN COMPARISON LIKE 20 OF OUR CITY AGENCIES ANKLE FIT WITHIN THOSE LAPSES. SO I WANTED TO NOTE THAT. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? BEFORE I MOVE ON PAST HPD. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU MAJOR HIRONAKA. AGAIN CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO HPD AS LISTED PAGES 8 THROUGH 16. MOVING TO TOP OF PANIOLO 17. DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I BELIEVE I SEE WITH US DIRECTOR RANDALL COLLINS. OLELO AND GOOD AFTERNOON. DIRECTOR COLLINS.

Testifier: ALOHA. THANK YOU FOR HAVING MASON HO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY. I KNOW THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT, THAT WE'VE ADDED 300,000 FOR THE FLOOD MITIGATION MONITORING ACTIVITIES SYSTEM. AND THAT IS I THINK AWE YOU WILL TO KNOW, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT PARTICULAR INITIATIVE AND WANT TO SHOW THAT COME TO FRUITION. THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT KNOWING THAT I'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED MILLION DOLLARS TO THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT THROUGH THE URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE AND ALSO, KNOWING THAT THAT KIND OF CHANGE HAS IMPACTS ON THE OTHER CITY AGENCIES, WITH ALSO A FOCUS ON UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR DISASTER PROVISIONAL FUND WHICH IS VERY CRITICAL FOR US TO CONDUCT EMERGENCY OPERATIONS ESPECIALLY IN THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY THAT WE MAY HAVE, WHICH IF WE REINSTITUTE THAT, THAT HAS NO IMPACT ON ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENT. WE CAN STILL USE THE MONEY FOR THE SNROOD MITIGATION PROJECT AND THEN, I WOULD STILL THAT YOU FLOOD. ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA'S, PROPOSAL TO ADD A FIVE POSITIONS ON TOP OF THE 8 THAT IS ALREADY COMING. THOSE POSITIONS ARE INCREDIBLY VITAL AS WE LEARNED IN THE KONA LOW STORMS. MY STAFF IS SO LIMITED WHAT WE CAN DO ESPECIALLY IN BACK-TO-BACK OPERATIONS. THAT GO ON. FOR IN TO CASE, ALMOST 2 MONTHS OR MORE. GETTING THOSE ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS ARE HIRED ON MY PRIORITY LIST, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE LA LARGER CAPACITY WHAT WE DO AT DEM. SO I WARM-UPS THAT, I WOULD JUST WITH THAT, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU MAKE

THOSE PARTICULAR CHANGE AND THANK YOU ALWAYS FOR THE SUPPORT TO DEM. Chair Waters: THANK YOU DIRECTOR COLLINS. MEMBERS WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA.

Councilmember Kia'aina: THANK YOU. THANK YOU DIRECTORRER COLLINS. CHAIR, I TOLD YOU THAT I WOULD BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE PAROLE PROPOSALS FOR INCREASED POSITIONS. MULTIPLE PROPOSALS WANTED TO CLARIFY MOVE BEYOND TODAY AND WORK TOWARDS FD-1, OF WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING AT, WITH REGARD TO MY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, FOR FIVE POSITION, ME WERE FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONTINUITY PROGRAM COORDINATOR YOU ARE. HAZARD MITIGATION PLANNER AND PROJECT MANAGER. PREPAREDNESS SPECIALIST, LOGISTICS SPECIALIST AND PERSONNEL CLERK. I WOULD SAY AND I TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT KNOWING THAT THEY HAD WANTED MORE THAN THAT. BUT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT DESPITE THE BUDGETARY CONSTRAINT THAT WE ALL FIND OURSELVES IN, THAT I WORKED IN TANDEM AND PRIORITIZED, THE POSITIONS, IN CONSULTATION WITH THE DIRECTOR AS WELL AS THE MANAGING DIRECTOR'S OFFICE, AND BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES, IF EVER THERE WAS A TIME TO STRENGTHEN THE CAPACITY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES, THE TIME IS NOW. IT IS NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE CHIANCAING NATURAL ENVIRONMENT DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE. WE ARE SEEING BASED ON THE KONA LOW,, THAT THINGS ARE COMING MORE FREQUENTLY. BUT IT'S ALSO THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT THAT IS CHANGING WITH REGARD TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. AND I'M TALKING BEYOND THIS ADMINISTRATION. BIPARTISAN EFFORTS I BELIEVE TO LOOK AT STRENGTHENING CAPACITY OF LOCAL AND OUR STATE GOVERNMENTS. SO I DON'T WANT TO WAIT AROUND. THIS IS NOT A, SMALL DEPARTMENT. SO I DON'T WANT TO BE WAITING AROUND. LIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THE ADDITIONAL A. AIDE. TIME TO DO IS NOW.

BECAUSE WHAT IS GOING TO DO HAPPEN IS THERE'S GOING TO BE RELEGATION OF FUNDING DOWN TO THE CITY AND STATE AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO IMPLEMENT. SO I DO NOT LOOK AT IT AS JUST STAFFING THE DEPARTMENT. TO DO JUSTICE JOB ITS JOCK LOOKG AT AFTER PUBLIC SAFETY FOR RESIDENTS OF OAHU. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: IT FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I HAVE DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UPS IF THAT'S OKAY DIRECTOR. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. I KNOW THAT ALL OF CUSS SAY PUBLIC SAFETY UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO US. WE DID MEET PRIOR TO THE INITIAL FEDERAL BUDGET HEARING. AND YOU DID SHARE THAT POINT YOU SHARED PREVIOUS HEARINGS, PREVIOUSLY, TO THIS, THAT ADMINISTRATION HAD GIVEN YOU 8 POSITION. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA, HAS ASKED DPORT FIVE. CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE FROM MY FORUNDERSTANDING 12 TO 15. 12 FULL-TIME AND 3 CONTRACT. Testifier: 15 FULL-TIME FUNDED POSITIONS AND. Chair Okimoto: THREE OF THEM UNDER CONTRACT. Testifier: YES.

Chair Okimoto: OKAY. SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WITH THE 8 YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING YOU WERE HAPPY WITH THAT. WHEN WE MET. YOU WERE REALLY GRATEFUL. UNLIKE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT MET WITH ME, YOURS WAS THE ONE ADDED POSITION. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. DIRECTION? Testifier: YES, MA'AM. Chair Okimoto: OKAY. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA ENT SYMPTOMS. BUT IN THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE ADDING SIT ENT THES. THOSE POSITION RESPONSIBILITIES, DO THOSE POSITIONS ONLINE WITH OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA HAS ASKEDDING ASK, WHAT WERE THOSE POSITION FOR, THOSE EIGHT?

Testifier: THOSE POSITIONS ARE LARGELY YOU ALSO PLANNING AND OPERATIONS AND LOGISTICS POSITION AS WELL. THERE IS THE INFORMATION SPECIALIST THAT WOULD SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH. AND COMMUNITY EFFORTS OR SOCIAL MEDIA. AND SUPPORTS ARE MOBILITY HUB YOU PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AS WELL. AND SO YES, THEY ARE ALIGNED BECAUSE WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS WE HAD A AS YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GO EVEN BIGGER. SO WE ALREADY HAD A PRIORITY LIST AND WITH THE LESSONS LEARNED KONA LOW AND KNOWING HOW STRETCHED THE 15 PEOPLE GOT, OWN ADDING IN THE D8, LOOKING AT EVEN WHAT WE BROUGHT IN A WITH SOUTH CAROLINA, AND NEW YORK AND SO FORTH, WE SAW THE VERY BIG NEED OF HAVING EVEN MORE PEOPLE. AND SO THAT IS WHERE COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA CAME IN TO PLAY.

Chair Okimoto: UNDERSTANDING. SO JUST RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE 12, 15, ADDING 8 LOOK A 50% INCREASE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW ADD ANOTHER FIVE. DOUBLING YOUR OFFICE. QUESTIONS EARLIER ABOUT THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT. IN THE BUDGET THERE WAS NOTHING IN OPERATING TO HAVE MATERIALS OR RESOURCES FOR THAT. YOU THINK JUST STILL, I'M STILLEL UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE SCOPE AND E SEQUENCE OF THE DIRECTION YOU'RE TAKE THE DEPARTMENT. STORMS HERE. I MEAN, I GREW UP HERE IN THE ISLAND. HURRICANES GROWING UP. I'M NOT SAYING THAT KONA LOW IS SHOULD BE TAKEN LIGHT LIMIT HOWEVER, PREVIOUS DEPARTMENTS HAVE FUNCTIONED WITH STORAGES AND NATURAL DISASTERS IN THIS STATE. PRIOR TO CURRENT LEADERSHIP. WITH FEWER OR THE SAME AMOUNT OF STAFF. I DID NOT INITIALLY HAD TAKEN OUT THE 8 THAT THE MAYOR HAD ALLOWED. PUT IT BACK IN. ABOUT YOU AND I STAND BY THE FACT THAT I THINK WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE AI. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA SENTIMENT TLE. GETTING 50% IN INCREASE IN STAFF AND DID I WILL IS YOU U STILL DON'T KNOW IF THOSE FUNCTIONS ARE OVERLAPPING FROM THE EXAMPLE FROM A TIME-OFF WOULD BE DOING I PAUSE. PLANNING LOGISTICS, IF SOME OF THOSE ARE EFFORT AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME AVENUE EXTRA FIVE THAT YOU'RE ADDING ON, OR BEING PROPOSED TO BE ADD ON, THAT IS WHERE I QUESTION AND A PAUSE. LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD WORK OUT. YOU KNOW, T THAT IS JUST MY MONEY. OTHERS CAN OPINE. IF THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS RELATING TO THIS ISSUE.

Testifier: I WITH LIKE TO RESPOND. I UNDERSTAND OUR DEPARTMENT HAS WITHIN RELATIVELY UMG U UP CHANGED OVER DECADES EVEN. AND UNCHANGED NUMBER ONE I THINK THAT IS LITTLE CONCERNING ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING NATIONALLY AND WHAT THE SECOND TAKES ON THE STATE AND THE LOCAL JURISDICTION. EXPECTATIONS THAT DO AMONG MANAGEMENT VERSUS WHAT FEMA IS DOING. SECONDLY YOU THIS WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT STORMS ARE BECOMING MORE OFTEN AND MORE SEVERE. THAN IN THE PAST. WE LOOK AT CLIMATE CHANGE FOR THAT, AND SO THAT IS ANOTHER REASON BUT ALSO, THE EVOLVING WORLD OF AMONG MANAGEMENT IS WHAT IS MOBILITY HUB POLICE COMMISSION PECK STATION AND PUBLIC STEAK TAKES AS HAD A INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST 2 HE CAN DECADEMENT EXPECTATION, IN MY CAREER TIME ALONEMENT AND SO TRYING TO MEET THE PUBLIC EXPECTATION OF WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE OUT OF DEM. IS ALSO CONSIDERATION BUT MOVE THAN ANYTHING, WE HAVE TO RIGHT SIZE FOR RISK. AND WE ARE NOT, WE DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF BASED ON THE ISOLATION AND IT'S RISK THAT WE HAVE HERE.

Chair Okimoto: MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN FUTURE CONVERSATION BECAUSE GINNY DON'T KNOW IF THE SCOPE OF DEM IS SOS TO DO BE ROA RESPONDING TO EVERYTHING THAT WAY YOU WERE THINKING IT IS. HISTORICALLY. WE HAVE BETTER TECHNOLOGY NOW. MAYBE DIFFERENT TYPES OF STORMS THAN THERE WERE 30 TO 50 YEARS AGO. TECHNOLOGY, AND OTHER RESOURCE. MAYBE THAT CONVERSATION WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA,. Testifier: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Councilmember Tupola: EXCITED TO SEE THE DIVERSION THE 8 HOW THAT HELPS US. THIS WEEK WE HEARD DPP THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HOSTED THE I GUESS THE REBUILD EVENT ON WAIALUA. VERY IMPRESSED BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS YOUR DEPARTMENT. BUT I DO THINK THAT PERFECTLY POISED TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILDING AGENCY WITHIN THE CITY. I DO THINK THAT ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT YOU I HAD TOGETHER WAS ABOUT GETTING OTHER AGENCIES OR COMPANIES ON BOARD. THAT WE CAN DEPLOY IN THE EVENT OF THE AMONG. ANDEMERGENCY NOT NECESSARILY KEP THEM ON FULL-TIME STAFF. MANY STATES ARE DOING AS A CONTINGENT. I FOUND OUT RECENTLY THAT E&V THIS WHOLE TIME HAD A CONTINGENCY CONTRACT WHERE WHEN EMERGENCIES HAPPEN, THEY HAVE A CONTINGENCY CONTRACTOR THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING ANNUALLY ACTUALLY, WE NEVER ACTIVATED THAT CONTRACT UNTIL THIS YEAR. HAD THAT CONTRACT 20 YEARS OF PAYING MEMBER ETHICS COMMISSION THIS YEAR HAD SUCH A HUGE AMOUNT OF TRASH THEY HAD HANDLE, ACTIVATE THE CONTRACTOR. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DEM SHOULD ALSO BE DOING. SO WHERE ARE YOU ABLE TO GET ANY OF THOSE COMPANIES ON BOARD FILED AS LIKE QUALIFIED LICENSE CONTRACTORS CITY CAN WORK WITH SO WE CAN CALL ON THEM TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE OUR NUMBERS WITHOUT HAVING A P WAIL POSITIONS? ANNUAL POSITION?

Testifier: NO. WE DON'T HAVE THAT CONTRACT IN PLACE. OR ANY SIMILAR TYPE OF CONTRACT IN PLACE. CERTAINLY STILL ARE TO SCOPE THAT OUT. AND THAT BEING SAID, SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE EMERGENTEL EXIGENT RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE JUST LIKE THE DEBRIS CONTRACT THAT YOU MENTION, TOOK A COUPLE OF DAYS TO REALLY TURN ON AND GET MOVING. SAME A IS TRUE FOR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF CONTRACTORS. ALSO, IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE FRAMEWORK. I NEED THE STAFF TO HAVE THE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE JUST LIKE DRCTSE DIRECTOR BABCOCK HAD A FRAMEWORK IN PALATIAL WITH THE OTHER CONTRACT. SO THAT WHEN WE NEED TO TURN IT ON, WE CAN DO SO. ALSO DISADVANTAGE WITH THAT. NOT ONLY WITH LARGE CONTRACT BUT WITH FEMA COMING IN, NOW, AFTER WE GOT THING PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT FRAMEWORK TO TURN ON ALL THE RECOVERY PIECES AND SO FORTH. AND WE WEREN'T REALLY READY FOR THAT. WE DON'T HAVE A RECOVERY PERSON AND THAT'S ONE OF THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO ADD. SO HAVING SOMEBODY REALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT IS GOING TO COME IN, AFTER WE GET A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION, WHAT DOES RECOVERY LOOK LIKE, EVEN OUTSIDE OF FEMA, AS BRIEFED OTHER DAY, U.S. HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, I'M SORRY, GRANTS, U.S.D.A. GRANTS,EL SBA GRANTS A LOT MORE THAN GOES ON TO RECOVERY. THAN JUST THE FEMA STUFF. WE DIDN'T HAVE A FRAMEWORK IN PLACE. KNOWING THAT WHEN WE HAD PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION, IT'S TO GO LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST. WITH PAST FEDERAL ADMINISTRATIONS.

Councilmember Tupola: ENCOURAGE YOU TO PURSUE THOSE CONTRACTS. EMERGENCY ONES CONTINGENCY PEOPLE 2 TAKES IT GET THEM OUT. WENT THROUGH WHOLE MONTH. GOT THEM OUT 2 DAYS HAD EXTRA EQUIPMENT WE DIDN'T HAVE, HINTS CARS TRUCKS, DOE EMPLOYMENT. HOUSES ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE, IT WOULD BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS THAN WE WE HAD NOW. IN ADDITION TO THE FRAMEWORK, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN GET THAT THOSE OTHER PARTS GOING BECAUSE I THOUGH FOR MANY DEPARTMENTS AND STATES, THAT IS CRUCIAL. IN TIMES THAT THEY CANNOT LITERALLY EMPLOY THAT MANY PEOPLE YEAR-ROUND. AND EMERGENCIES THEY CALL ON THEM. THAT IS MAY WHAT CONTRACTS ARE FOR. Chair Okimoto: THANK Y YOU.

Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU. DIRECTOR COLLINS. FIVE AN ADDITIONAL POSITIONS WILL COST HOW MUCH? Testifier: I DON'T HAVE THAT TOTAL IN FRONT OF ME. I'M CURIOUS IF COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA MAY HAVE THAT. KIA'AINA WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? Councilmember Waters: FIVE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS WILL COST HOW MUCH? Councilmember Kia'aina: TOTAL POSITIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN $328,776. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK FIND THAN MAUI IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD IT. THAT'S YOU WILL ALL THAT FIND THAT MONEY. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. THAT WILL.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. EARLIER THIS WEEK, I ASKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CURRENT VACANCY AND DELAWARE IDENTIFY THAT DEM CURRENTLY HAS FIVE. CIVIL SERVICE VACANCIES. DO WE HAVE ANY ASSESSMENT POSITION VACANCIES RIGHT NOW? ANY EXEMPT WE HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR VACANCY THAT IS USUALLY FUNDED WITH OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANT. UNFILLED RIGHT NOW. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: IN THE RISER RESPONSE, HERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TECHNICIAN POSITIONS WHICH IS BUNT FIVE CIVIL SERVICE VACANCIES, IS ONE.

PENDING REORGANIZATION IMPLIES THAT YOU'RE UNDERGOING REORGANIZATION PROCESS. SO IF WE WERE GIVE YOU FIVE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, ALICE BEEN PROPOSED BY COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA, WHICH I STRONGLY SUPPORTMENT, WHAT WOULD BE THE TIME LINE FOR THIS REORGANIZATION I FEEL LIKE WE OFTEN SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOING THIS AND TIME IS OF ESSENCE.

Testifier: ABSOLUTELY. FRUSTRATING WE WILL HAVE TO DO ANOTHER REORG. WITH ADDITIONAL STAFFING. AND SO THAT WILL TAKE ABOUT THREE MONTHS. AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE TWO THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS. SO WE'RE AT BEST, I THINK FLYING, ADDITIONAL FOUR MONTHS. AND BEFORE WE ACTUALLY WOULD BE ABLE TO O BRING ONEL MOST OF THOSE FOLKS. THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ALSO STATE THAT DUI BELIEVE OF BELIEVEEL AT LEAST WHEN I SUBMITTED THE REQUEST, WE CHANGED THE AMOUNTS KNOWING THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HIRE ON JULY 1.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: OKAY. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND. WE PROPOSE NUMBERS FOR THESE ADDITIONAL FIVE. POS. I WANTED TO ASK POSITION. ASK ABOUT THE ON GOING RECRU RECRUITMENT, FOR LOGISTICS SECTION CHIEF AS WELL AS PLANS SIX CHIEF. RISER RESPONSE MENTIONED THAT YOU EXPECT TO HAVE THEM ON BOARD BY JUNE 30. ARE YOU STILL CONFIDENT IN THAT TIMELINE? Testifier: YES. BOTH OF THOSE WE HAVE ALREADY PUT OUT AND RECEIVED THE APPLICATIONS BACK. AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE PLANNING ON SCHEDULING THE INTERVIEW STARTING NEXT WEEK.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: GOOD TO HEAR. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. NOTE THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE FIVE CIVIL SERVICE VACANCIES AS WELL AS ONE CONTRACT POSITION VACANCIES, WE'RE THE STARTING FROM BEHIND AND THIS IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE STARTING FROM BEHIND. SO WE REALLY WANT TO CATCH UP QUICK. SO THANK YOU. KIA'AINA.

Councilmember Kia'aina: LAST COMMENT. COUPLE OF WE FORGOT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. CLEAR RECENT STORMS. AND OTHER EVENTS, COMMUNITY PLAYS A CRITICAL COAL. AND I NEED NOT TELL EVERYBODY THAT ENTER ROLE. OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN CLAMERING TO BUILD EVEN CAPACITY WITHIN THEIR OWN ORGANIZATION. AND A THEY CIRCULATING THERE ON THE FRONT LINES HELPING WITH THESE STORMS. AND SO I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A ROBUST TEAM AT THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH REGARD TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO THAT WE DON'T FISCAL PTS PHOS FACE SAME CRITICISM ALL FRONT LINES AND EVERYBODY CAME. PART OF REASON IS JUST ACTUAL MANPOWER. SECOND, I WANT TO JUST PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE ROLE THEY PLAYED, WHICH MAY BE UNDER PLAYED, RIGHT WE ONLY THINK OF THEM EMINEM THIS CASE OF DISASTER. BUT PREPARED NOSE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND YESTERDAY, WE HAD PRODUCTIVES INFORMATIONAL BRIEFING ON FIRE MITIGATION STRATEGIES. AND ALTHOUGH WE HAD HFD AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THERE, THERE WAS A DIRECTOR COLLINS CAME IN AND ACTUALLY CLARIFIED TO US ONGOING MITIGATION STRATEGY THAT IS GOING ON OR FIRE STRATEGY WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION, SO I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET ANY SLEEP. RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE OF LACK OF MANPOWER. I WILL STOP BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M VERY FRUGAL IN GENERAL, WITH MY BUDGETARY REQUEST. I DID NOT PUT A SINGLE DOLLAR INTO THE CIP BUDGET. EVERYTHING WAS IN THE OPERATING AND FOR ME, IT WASN'T JUST MY DISTRICT IT'S, SMALL MITIGATION MATTERS. EVERYTHING ELSE HAD TO DO WITH MY KULEANA ZONING CHAIR AND CERTAIN IRU ISSUES THAT I PERCEIVE. NOTWITHSTANDING ALL OF THE CUTS THAT WE WERE LOOK AT OF THAT WASHED ME PUTTING THEM IN. THAT WARRANTED.

I DON'T PUT IN MY REQUEST LIGHTLY. THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. I DID TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EVERYBODY'S I THINK EVERYBODY WAS TRYING TO MINDFUL SO JUST TO BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR BEING FRUGALLY MINDED WALES. CHAIR WATERS. AS WELL. WATERS THAWJT I'M GOING TO DO MY BEANS TO FIND ADDITIONAL $328,000. BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT, DREUCTD ER COLLINS, YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE IF THING GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIRE FOR AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS. DOES THAT MEAN REDUCE THE 328 BY FOUR MONTHS? OR MAYBE UP CORPORATE HALF IS THIS. Testifier: THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE. I THINK WE ALREADY ADJUSTED FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.

Councilmember Waters: ACTUALLY DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT? Testifier: 328 IS PER YEAR. YES. FUTURE YEARS. IT WOULD BE MORE. Councilmember Waters: OKAY. THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU CHAIR WATERS. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, CHAIR LAST QUESTION. ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. THEN I WAS GOING TO YOU CAN MAY RECOMMENDATION. THAT SINCE IT TWO TAKE UP TO FOUR MONTHS, IF WE DON'T DO THE FIVE POSITIONS,ER THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHAT IF WE DO THOSE 90 DAY TRT CO CONTRACTS TP YOU FILL THAT CAPACITY AND ALSO, DO YOU HAVE SPACE/PHYSICAL CAPACITY WITHIN THE DEM AREA TO HOUSE EVERYBODY?

Testifier: QUESTION DO HAVE SOME EXTRA SPACE. SPACE IS GOING TO START BECOMING A FACTOR. AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD POSITIONS. I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH HPD. AND HELPING US OUT AND SUPPORTING US WITH POTENTIAL SPACE IN THEIR OFFICE SPACES AND I HAVEN'T EVEN YET YOU BEGUN TO SCOUR THEST ARE OF THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING OR OTHER PLACES AS WELL. Chair Okimoto: SPHA THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH DIRECTOR COLLINS. Testifier: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto:

Chair Waters: CHAIR ACCEPTS AMENDMENT TO DEM LISTED ON PAGE 17. BACK TO TOP OF PAIN IS AND BOTTOM OF PAGE 25. PAGE 18. FOR PAVER AND UTILITIES AN OTHER ENTERPRISES. DEPARTMENT SERVICE. I DO SEE WITH US DIRECTOR ROGER MORTGAGE FROM ARE DTS. ALOHA GOOD AFTERNOON DIRECTOR MORTON. Testifier: ROGER MORTON.

Testifier: ALOHA CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. ROGER MORTON. DIRECTOR OF TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. YOU ON PAGE FIRST PAGE, WHERE $10,000 REDUCTION. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE COMMENT ON THAT. ACCEPTABLE TO US. ON PAGE 25, THERE WERE TWO CHANGES. ONE WAS IN ADDITION OF MONEY FOR SPEED ANN HE ENFORCEMENT AROUND SCHOOLS. YOU RESPECTFULLY I THINK WE HAVE, OTHER SPENT FUNDING THAT WE COULD USE FOR THAT PURPOSE. WE HAVE $500,000 THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO GET FROM THE STATE OF HAWAII. WE THINK WE GOT PRETTY GOOD CHANCE OF GETTING THAT FUNDING. SO RESPECTFULLY, LIKE TO DECLINE THAT INCREASE. EN THAT SAME LINE, THERE WAS A REDUCTION, IN OUR CURRENT EXPENSES, OF ABOUT $116,000. THAT IS MONEY THAT WE WOULD USE TO PAY OUR DUES TO THE WTMA. AND RESPECTFULLY, WE ASKED THAT THAT BE RESTORED.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR MORTON. MEMBERS ANY QUESTION OR DISCUSSIONEL COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. EL. Councilmember Kia'aina: NG THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. FOR THE YOUR COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THE SPEED HUMPS. BY THE SCHOOLS. LAST YEAR, $5,800,000 WAS APPROPRIATED. SO WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? BECAUSE PART OF THE REASON THAT FUNDING IS BEING PUT IN, IS BECAUSE WE WANTED ALL ON OAHU. RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU GUYS YOU SENT LETTERS TO ALL OF US PRIORITIZING THE SCHOOLS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO BE PUTTING UP THE SIGNS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

Testifier: WELL, BOTH I MEAN, PUTTING UP THE SIGNS WILL COST US WON'T BE DONE IN 2 YEARS. BUT WE ARE IN DESIGN FOR THAT FIRST YEAR MONEY. Councilmember Kia'aina: OKAY. UTILIZED. AND SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE $150,000? U I THINK THAT TOUGH BUDGET YEAR. HONESTLY. AND WE THINK THAT WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE. THAT WON'T IMPACT THE CITY BUDGET. Councilmember Kia'aina: THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. MEMBERS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FOR DTS? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THANK YOU DIRECTOR MORTON. CHAIR ARE WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENT IT'S TO DTS AS LISTED ON PAGES 18 AND PAGE 25. ON PAGE 21, FOR HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT OF USING HOUSING AND LAND MANAGEMENT I SEE DEPUTY DIRECTOREL CATHERIN TASCHNER WITH US. ALOHA GOOD AFTERNOON DEPUTY DIRECTOR. U HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. BUDGET CHAIR OKIMOTO MEMBERS CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOURTH TIME AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS. ON THE BILL 2 2. DHHL REQUEST REFERRAL OF THIS PLANNING APPROPRIATION FOR THE PEARLRIDGE SITE AND OPERATING BUDGET. TO BE CLEARED, DHHL DOES NOT OPPOSE HOUSING AT THIS SOIT SITE. AT THIS TIME, APPROPRIATION COULD CARRY A FED COMPLIANCE RISK. AND COULD GENERAL AIR DYES FEMED FUNDING RECEIPT BY THE DEPARTMENT OFFER TRANSPORTATION SERVICE. JEOPARDIZE R DTS IS HERE SO I CAN ALLOW THEM TO, PROVIDE MORE DETAILS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDER ACTIVE FEDERAL PROCIEWCT BY DTS FOR MOBILITY HOUSE BILL. PROCUREMENT. ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW HAS BEEN COMPLETE WILLED OR EMINENTLY GOING TO COMPLETED. FUNDING INDEPENDENT PLANNING PROCESS SAME PARCEL. RIGHT NOW. SEPARATE DEPARTMENT CREATES A DOCUMENT RECORD THAT FEDERAL OVERSIGHT AGENCIES CAN AND DO SCRUTINIZE. IF THAT PLANNING OWE DEUCES SITE CONFLICTS APPROVED HUB SCOPE, RISK REOPENING ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE AND JEOPARDIZING RECEIPT OF FEDERAL FUNDS. AT THIS TIME, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST DEFERRAL OF THAT. THE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DEPUTY DIRECTOR. MAYS QUESTIONS FOR DHLM? Councilmember Tupola: HI. ALOHA. JUST STALKED ABOUT THIS YET. IN OUR HEARING. TALKED ABOUT THIS. UNFORTUNATELY YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO D&B BE THERE, QUESTION THAT WE HAD WAS IN REGARDS TO, EXACTLY WHAT PARCELS YOU GUYS ARE PURSUING WHAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING MONEY TOWARD AND PRESENTATION ALLUDED TO THAT BEING VERY ADVANTAGEOUS PLACE TO PUT HOUSING. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S GOING TO BE MOBILITY HUB. THAT WOULD BE INCLUDING HOUSING OR NOT? Testifier: I CAN DEFER TO DTS. PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE SCOPE. YOU BY UNDERSTAND IT COULD BE ACCOMMODATE HOUSE IN THE FUTURE. BUT FEDERAL PROCUREMENT IS WHAT EXACTLY?

Testifier: RELATED TO A MOBILITY HUB. YOU THINK ALM ENVIRONMENTAL SCOPINGS THAT THEY DID CURRENTLY RETAIL THE TO MOBILITY HUB. EXPANDING IT BEYOND THAT AT THIS TIME, COULD RISK REOPENING THAT AND HAVING TO TWO BACK IN THAT PROCESS. I THINK MONEY IS SET ASIDE FOR US TO KIND OF FEASIBILITY STUDY IT OUT AND DETERMINE THAT. IS THAT NOT GOING TO BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO GET AHEAD ON THAT? Testifier: IT CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN COORDINATE ON. BUT CREATING SEPARATE ZONE SCOPE, DTS MIGHT BE BEST FOR YOU TO RESPOND TO. CREATING SEPARATE SCOPE COULD REOPEN WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE. ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK NOR THAT.

Chair Okimoto: DIRECTOR MORTON? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US DEPUTY DIRECTOR. MY NAME IS HONG LEE. WITH DTS. DEPUTY DIRECTOR. I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, FEDERAL AID PROJECT,EL AT PEARLRIDGE, RAIL STATION. LOCATION. LOCKING INTO A PUTTING BUS STOPS, TRANSIT CENTER, AND A LONG WAYS, CHARTER, WE TAIL END OF THAT FEDERAL REVEAL PROCESS, BECAUSE OF FUNDING 80% OF FUNDING IS FROM U.S. D.O.T., WHATEVER WE DO WE HAVE FOR COMPLY WITH U.S. D.O.T.'S ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. RULES AND REGULATIONS. SO I THINK THIS PROPOSAL IS GOOD. BUT I THINK PROBABLY AT LEAST TIME, WE WOULD NOT ACCEPT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THIS EFFORT.

Chair Waters: THANK YOU CHAIR. Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU CHAIR. ING HI DEPUTY DIRECTOR LEE. WONDERING CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY NOW. OR CURRENTLY. RIGHT? AND DTS HAS OVERSIGHT OVER THAT PROPERTY? Testifier: YES. I BELIEVE SO. AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR, WHEN WE HAVE OUR MOBILITY HUB AND EVEN PARK AND RIDE, ARE WE SEEKING TO MAKE THESE MOBILITY HUBS OR PARK AND RIDES MULTIUSE ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE RIGHT BY A RAIL STATION. Chair Okimoto:

Testifier: YES. THAT IS A GOAL. WE BELIEVE IN ADDITION TO THE BUS, CONNECTION, TO THE RAIL, WE ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS WALKING, BIKING, TO THE STATION, WE ACTUALLY RUN THROUGH ALL DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES COUPLE YEARS AGO. LOOKING INTO WHAT WOULD BE BEST CONNECTION THAT IS POSSIBLE TO THE RAIL. Chair Okimoto: I UNDERSTAND.

Councilmember Cordero: WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN A DID ITION TO WITH THE MOBILITIES HUB. SO I MEAN, WOULD THINK OF THIS LANGUAGE WHETHER IT BE PLANNING, DESIGNING, HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN BETTER HOW IT WOULD PROHIBIT THE FEDERAL GRANTS FROM BEING ACCEPTED OR GIVEN TO THE CITY? OR DTS?

Testifier: SO ONE WHEN WE DO STUDY LIKE THIS, FROM MOBILITY HUB, WE ACTUALLY NOT LOOKING AT THE SITE ITSELF. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA. PRESENT OUR BEST CASE TO THE U.S. D.O.T., ONE WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES WEAR GOING FOREST TO GOING TO BE, AT THIS STAGE BECAUSE TIME UG OF PROJECT, WE EITHER TAIL END FOR THE FINANCIAL ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE, WE WOULD LARGE INCREASES NOT GO BACK TO THEM TELL THEM, BY THE WAY, TELL THEM. CHANGE OUR MIND. WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. IN THE PLA PLAN. THAT WOULD REALLY PULL UNNECESSARY DELAY TO THE FEDERAL AID PROJECT IMMINENT PARAPLEGIC, THESE PROJECT IS NOT ONLY THE PLANNING STAGE, WE ALSO SECURE DESIGN, MONEY FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, FOLLOWING CONSTRUCTION MONEYS ALREADY BEING PROGRAMMED. ARE AT THIS STAGE, WE BELIEVE IS THE BEST, WE STAY ON COURSE.

Councilmember Cordero: CONSTRUCTION MONEY ALREADY BEEN PROGRAMMED. BUT TO GET TO MIXED USE WITHIN A MOBILITY HUB, I MEAN, IF WE END UP PLANNING FOR THIS, O OR PUTTING THIS IN THE FUTURE BUDGET, MAYBE NEXT YEAR, OR TWO YEARS, JUST ADD MAYBE TEN OR 15 YEARS TO DOLING OUT MIXED USE PROJECT LIKE THIS. RIGHT? SO HOW CAN WE DO THIS AT THE SAME TIME? TOGETHER?

Testifier: DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT. IDEA. YOU THO YOU KNOW, ALONG THE PROCESS WE ALWAYS BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. LOOKING INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES WE ENHANCE O.E.R. AREA INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY THAT CALLS IN OFFICES, BUT TIMING OF RIGHT NOW, WHERE WE RIGHT NOW EX-ABILITY WOULD GO BACK TO THE FEDERAL PROGRAM TELL THEM, WE THINK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. THAT WE WILL NOT UNDER US DOWN THE ROAD. TO EITHER ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO THIS TO DECIDE.

Councilmember Cordero: IF WE DO SKEP SEP THIS INTO THE BUDGET, WHAT WOULD IT LOOKS LIKE TELLING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OH, THIS IS HOW THE PROJECT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE HE FOCUS STILL INITIALLY IS MOBILITY HUB. RIGHT? NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT. RUTTED? SO HOW TWO CHANGE THE APPLICATION?

Testifier: THERE IS ESTABLISHED STRUCTURE WHO WOULD MAKE CHANGES WE WOULD START WITH STATE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. YOU CALLED STICK. SUCTION YEAR PLAN. WORK WITHOUT WITH U.S. D.O.T. AND H D.O.T. SIX YEAR PLAN. WINDOWS ALLOW US TO GO BACK TO PLANMENT RIGHT NOW, THAT WINDOW IS CLOSED. SO EVERY YEAR, WE HAVE TWO OR THREE WINDOWS WE CAN GO BACK TO SEE THEM DO NEED TO MAKE CHANGES. CORD WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT. ADOPTION OF THAT MAYBE SIX MONTHS AGO MAYBE. BUT JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD DO THAT BOTH FEDERALLY AND WITH LOCAL FUNDS AS WELL. IN SUPPORT OF IT. I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS SUPPORTING ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT CITY OWNS. SO I KNOW WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE HOPEFULLY WE CAN DISCUSS THIS FURTHER. BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ON THE SAME PAGE ON BUILDING UP THIS PROPERTY. EL YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS. EL CANDIDATES SAY THE SAME ABOUT OTHER SIT STATE US. BUT THANK YOU. AGENCY.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. THEIR WATERS,. Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU. DEPUTY DIRECTOR BASED OAR WHY R ON YOUR MANY IT, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING HOUSING EXON THIS PROPERTY, AND A FUERTES DATE,ER DON'T YOU THISTY WOULD BE PRUDENT TO DO THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT PROSPECT? THAT IS ALL WE'RE ASKING.

Testifier: YEAH, I WAS ONCE WAY PAST FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS. EL THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE FORMBY US. THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO AT ONCE TO THE DESIGN PHASE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE TIME WE CAN LOOK AT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WE CAN LOOK INTO THER FEASIBILITY. MAYBE ADDING ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO THIS SITE LET YOU KNOW. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WAY DTS WORKED WAS OUR DPP T.O.D. DIVISION, CLOSELY. HAS BEEN EXPLORED ALL DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO TALK TO SOME DEVELOPERS SUCH AS I DON'T WANT TO MENTION THE NAME. TALKED TO SEVERAL DEVELOPERS. FEEDBACK WE GOT IS K KIND OF LIKE WARM RESPONSE. LUKE WATERMAN. PART OF REASON IS THAT TIME, RAIL WAS STILL NOT OPERATIONAL. HAVE SEEN CONSTRUCTION, SCHEDULE IS STILL DOUBTFUL. I BELIEVE NOW, WE GO OUT I THINK FEEDBACK COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT. SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY. RAIL ALREADY CONSTRUCTION ALREADY HAPPENING YOU SHALL U URBAN CORE AREA. I THINK THAT TIMING IS PROBABLY WE SHOULD GO OUT TO REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN. LOOK AT THE MARKET INTEREST. FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

Chair Okimoto: Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU THEIR WATERS. COUNCILMEMBER TAM. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR BEING HERE. JUST TO REPEAT. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT PROVIDING THE MOBILITY HUB FUNDING OR WHICH WE'RE APPLYING?

Testifier: SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE ACTUALLY DTS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE. ING WE COMPETING, EVERY YEAR, WE HAVE THE FORM LAL GRANT, FORMAL GRANT A TSUNEYOSHIED TO US. WE ALSO LOOKING INVOLVED DIFFERENT, DISCRETIONAL DURANT. I BELIEVE FOR THIS PROGRAM, GRANT. YOU PLANNING DESIGN CONSTRUCTION, SO ALL FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES. WE TRIED TO TAKE IT DRF TAKE WHATEVER AVAILABLE TO US.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: WITH REGARD TO THE IDEA NOW BASED ON DISCUSSION, THAT ALL THE WE WANT IS TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY RIGHT NOW, MILLION DOLLARS IS PROPOSED. CLEARLY MILLION DOLLARS IS A LOT OF MONEY TO STEAD STUDY FIEBILITYD SOME KIND OF STRUCTURE HERE. MORE REFINED ESTIMATE WHAT WITH WOULD BE ACTUALLY JUST STUDY THIS?

Testifier: YEAH. MILLION DOLLARS A LOT OF MONEY. WE ACTUALLY THINKING WHEN THE MARKET IS READY, REALLY POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM MARKET EX-WE WANT TO USE THEM CITY MONEY AS A LI ALLE LEVERAGE BRIM MORE FEDERAL DOLLARS. ALWAYS LIKE THE 80/20 SPLIT. USUALLY, EVERY TWO DOLLARS WE SPENT SPEND, BRING IN EIGHT DOLLARS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE FORMULA FOR US GOING FORWARD AS WELL. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I'M WITH YOU HERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE UNDERTAKE THIS PLANNING ON OWE URBAN DEVELOPMENT ONION OMAR. VERY SPENCER.

OUR OWN. VERY EXPENSIVE RELATIVE IT CITY DOLLAR EXPENSIVE. VERSUS WATTING UNTIL THERE IS, FEDERAL PROGRAMS MONEY MAY BE MONEYS FROM HUD OR OTHER AGENCIES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. WORRY ABOUT US EMBARKING ONG THIS ON OUR OWN ESPECIALLY IF THE MARKET IS NOT THERE TO ACCEPT, THIS SORT OF THE PROJECT. Testifier: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. Vice Chair Dos Santos TAM MEMBERS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTION? DEPUTY DIRECTOR, COULD YOU REPEAT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL APPLICATION OR PROCESS. WAITING FOR THAT. WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO GET THAT REPORT OR THE RESULTS OF THAT? STUDY? Testifier: CROSSING OUR FINGERS HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

Chair Okimoto: OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, OR QUESTIONS, THE CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS TO HLM, LISTED ON PAGE 21. MEMBERS WE'RE NOW BOTTOM OF 1. PAGE 22, TOP OF PAGE 23. FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITIES SERVICES. WE HAVE WITH US DIPTY DIRECTOR LOS BANOS. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.

Testifier: ALOHA CHAIR. COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS. COUNCIL CHAIR VICE CHAIR TUPOLA. DEPUTY DIRECTOR. DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. APPRECIATIONER APPRECIATES THE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL. APPRECIATES TURNED SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL. MOST OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET HAVE LARGELY BEEN RESTORED IN I HAVE FEW COMMENTS IN TERMS OF IMPACT. FIRST ONE BOTTOM OF PAGE 1, 1, $2 MILLION, PCS APPRECIATES SENTIMENT. WE HAVE TO GO, RESPECTFULLY, DECLINE IN SUPPORT OF RESTORATION OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES. OTHER CITY PROGRAMS. I THINK IT'S SETTLEMENT SENTIMENT IS GREAT. SOMETHING THAT INDUSTRY COULD USE. BUT THERE IS GOING INTO THIS, WE HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE ON LGT BUDGET AND I THINK OUR CURRENT FUNDING LEVEL IS ADEQUATE. MOVING TO TOP OF PAGE 22. TECHNICAL AMENDMENT HERE, $16.3 MILLION IS ACTUALLYEL FEDERAL STATE FUNDING NOT MY GENERAL FUNDING. MILLION DOLLARS EARMARKED HERE FOR KUPUNA FEEDING PROGRAM. DOESN'T EXIST. MY GENERAL FUBBEDDING ALLOCATION ALL ACTUALLY ABOUT $120,000. MILLION DOLLARS WOULDN'T BE FUNCTIONAL. FUNDINGING WHEN I WILL SHARE IS IN THEER $16.3 MILLION, IDENTIFIED HERE, $2.3 MILLION IS ALREADY BY PROGRAM. BY FEDERAL AND STATE CONTRACT. EARMARKED FOR NOT OTHER MARKED PROGRAMMED FOR FEEDING PROGRAM. SO WITHIN THE $16.3 MILLION, $2.3 MILLION IS KUPUNA FEELING PROGRAMS. BUT I DO NOT HAVE THAT MILLION DOLLARS TO BEGIN TO PROGRAM PLANNING ZONING $120,000 THERE. ALTHOUGH THAT 11,000 TOP OF PAGE 22, CYNTHIA THIELEN SMALL. OF THAT $120,000, I HAVE FOR GENERAL FUNDS,ER $89,000 GOES TOWARDS AGE FRIEND WILL YOU

CITY PROGRAM. CONNECTION WITH A AARP AND WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION. REALLY RUN PRETTY LEAN HERE. IN TERMS OF GENERAL FUNDING. RESTORATION OF THAT. I ALSO HAVE SIMILAR SWAGS WITH COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE DPI VISION. SITUATION. DIVISION. PAGE 22, $104 MILLION ACTUALLY IF ELD FUNDS. MY HUD MON HOUSING AND URBAN HUD BY AND LARGE YOUPROGRAM. SHOULD BE FEDERAL PROGRAM. FUND. $6,000 QUEN, P SMALL, -- 16,000. JEB FUNDS FOR THIS PROGRAM, LEVERAGING IS $104 MILLION, LEVERAGING OF $9,000. CITY PORTION OF IT. AT LEAST SELF-THOUSAND DOLLARS LOOKING TO MODIFY OUR LOAN PROGRAM KONA LOW PROGRAM. OUR HOME, WE REHAB PROGRAM. LOAN PROGRAM. SORRY. HOME LOAN REHAB PROGRAM. SO WE COULD USE THAT EXTRA MONEY HAVING THAT RESTORATIVE, LONG WAY HELPING RECOVERY EFFORTS. OTHER LOAN PROGRAMS OUT THERE. TRYING TO RE-ESTABLISH THAT PROGRAM. TO SOME KIND OF GAP PROGRAM FOR THE FOLKS. NOT BE QUALIFYING FOR FEMA ASSISTANCE OR SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION A STANCE. THAT'S AVAILABLE CURRENTLY. FINALLY, PAGE 23, $1 MILLION REDUCTION, TO THE COMMUNITY BASED DEVELOPMENT DIVISION FOR US, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT KIND OF BIG FOR US. I UNDERSTAND HOW THE WE LOOKING AT LEAPTSES IN PRIOR YEARS. THIS YEAR I LAPSES. I WILL POINT FACT THAT WE DID TAP INTO THE HOMELESS PROVISO THIS YEAR. WE ARE LOOKING TO MAXIMIZE ALL OF OUR FUNDS THIS YEAR. WE WILL NEED THOSE FUNDING O NEXT YEAR AND ASK FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION FOR RESTORATION. I WILL SHAY THAT CURRENTLY, THERE IS A SENATE BILL 2803 IN CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW,

APPROPRIATION WE ARE AT RISK OF EXISTING PROGRAMS, $8 MILLION FOR THE STATE'S NOT GOING TO FUND THIS. I DO ANTICIPATE LIKELY MING IN THOSE FUNDING. THAT FUNDING NEXT YEAR. I THINK SENATE BILL 2803 WAS WAS DEFERRED 5:00 P.M. TODAY. STILL HAVING TIME FOR ME. OTHERWISE, OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DEPUTY DIRECTOR P MEMBERS THEY QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA?

Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPHES PHYSICALITY. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF YOUR DEPARTMENT FUNDS ARE NOT NIGHLY GENERAL FUNDED SO I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE BUDGET CHAIR TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THESE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP. SPECIFICALLY WANT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE KUPUNA FEEDING. SO I GOT TEXTED FROM MY COMMUNITY. AS YOU KNOW. ELEPAIO WAIANAE COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH CENTER ACTIVELY FEEDS KUPUNA OFF FUNDS YOU GUYS PROVIDE TO THEM. SO BASED ON OF WHAT YOU SAWED IN THE SELF-MILLION, $2.3 MILLION IS ALREADY SET ASIDE FOR THIS. CAN I CONFIDENTLY REASSURE MY COMMUNITY THAT SOME OF THAT FUNDING IS STILL COMING TO US, AND THAT IS THE STILL EXISTS?

Testifier: ELEPAIO STRONG PARTNERS OF YOU. DEFINITELY ARE RECEIVING PORTION OF THAT FUNDING AND FEEDING. WHEN WE DID OUR PUBLIC SAFETY POWER SHUT OFF PROGRAM, I GOT AWE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EDUCATION ABOUT THE FOOD INSECURITY IN YOUR DISTRICT FUNDING COULD HELP IN ANY FUNDING COULD HELP YOUR COMMIT COMMUNITY FOOD SECURITY ISSUES. THEY DO RECEIVE QUITE A BIT OF THAT 2.3 AM R $4 MILLION. RIGHT EYE REPORT FOR YOU NUMBER OF CLIENTS WE HAVE. HELPFUL FOR YOUR PURPOSES. Chair Okimoto: I DON'T REALLY NEED CLIENTS. Vice Chair Nishimoto: WANT A REASSURE THEM CURRENT LEVEL THEY'RE SERVING IS CURRENT LEVEL WE SUPPORT THEM AT. BASED ONEN THIS BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEVEL IS. GOING TO MOUNTAIN.

Testifier: YES.ER TUPOLA THANK YOU. I WAS GO IT SPEAK ON THAT BECAUSE I DID GET TEXT ABOUT THIS. IF THE MONEY IS THERE AND BEING MAINTAINED, I THINK WE GOT TO STICK WITH THAT. SO THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR BUDGET IT LEAN. BUT I THINK THAT CAN FEMME THEM BECAUSE BIG DEAL FOR MY COMMUNITY. THOSE FUNDS ARE READILY ACCESS BEING. THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. I DO APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENT DEPUTY DIRECTOR YOU STATING. I THINK IT'S VERY MINDFUL OF YOU. TO SAY WE'RE FUNDING IS NEEDED AND WHERE IT'S NO. WHERE YOU CAN SHARE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS MUCH I APPRECIATE THAT. HONESTY OF THAT AREA. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER WEYER.

Councilmember Kia'aina: I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH ME ON INCREASING THE FUNDING FORMBY GRANTS IN AID. YOU KNOW FOR. CD1 HAD, YOU NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MY COLLEAGUES. I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS WILL BE IMPACT BY THIS. BECAUSE IT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL 16 ORGANIZATIONS GRANT FUNDING ON ARMING. $150,000 ON AVERAGE. DIVERSITY. JUST NAMED FOUR. WOULD INCLUDE BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS HAWAII, PARTNERS OF DEVELOPMENT FOUNDATION, WHICH AS YOU SAW IN THE NEWS,EL TUTU AND ME PROGRAM IS BEING CUT BECAUSE THE ATTACKS ON NATIVE HAWAIIAN EDUCATION PROGRAMS. THE KEY PROJECTS WHICH IS PIVOTAL FOR BOTH COKA'ALAUPOKO AND KUALOA. KUALOA. RIGHT? KO'OLAU LOA. I'M SORRY. AND AS WELL AS LEGAL CLINIC. WE HEARD A LOT OF ADVOCATES THIS MORNING TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR IMMIGRATION SERVICES. CHAIR, YOU KNOW, IN DISCUSSING THIS PREVIOUSLY, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A LIMITED CAPACITY. DDC FOR THIS. I WILL BE WORKING TOWARDS FD-1 WHICH WOULD DCS, LOOK TO PROVIDE $6,324 FOR PLANNER HAD POSITION TO HELP IMPLEMENTATION. PLANNER 4. REMINDER, VERY FEW PROGRAMS WITHIN THE CITY PROVIDES DIRECT FUNDING FOR OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. JUST AS WE ARE FACING CUTS, OUR NONPROFIT COMMUNITIES ARE FACING CUTS. AND THERE'S VERY FEW AVENUES TO MAKE UP FOR THAT. FOR ME, THIS IS A SMALL WAY IN WHICH CITY CAN PROVIDE. I WANT TO THE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. I SAID COUPLE QUESTIONS. TOTALLY SHARE THOSE SENTIMENTS WE JUST SHARED BIN KURISUING CAPACITY. FOR INCREASING. FUNDS TO NONPROFIT. YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT, OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. VERY IMPORTANT MISSION. CLOSEST CITY GETS TO HUMAN SERVICES. FIRST, HOW MUCH OF THAT $2.3 MILLION GENERAL FUNDS? Testifier: $2.3 MILLION ALL FEDERAL AND STATE DOLLARS. Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: CORRECT. WEYER WAR WE DON'T P CURRENTLY EXPEND ANY GENERAL FUNDS FOR FOOD ACCESS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAMMING FOR KUPUNA PROGRAMSING?

Testifier: NO. AS INNED DAY-TO-DAD BUDGET PRETTY LEAN, $30,000 TRYING TO LEVERAGE ACCESS $16.3 MILLION. OF FEDERAL STATE DOLLARS. Chair Dos SANTOS Tam: VERY LEAN OTHER COUNTIES TO. DO VERY LEAN. EVEN THOUGH OTHER COUNTIES WITH MUCH SMALLER BUDGETS IT INSURE THAT THERE SENIORS DON'T GO HUNGRY. WE DO NOT. RIGHT? THAT IS SOMETHING HONOLULU DOESN'T DO. Testifier: TONES YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER WEYER I HAVE SEEN SUPPLEMENTAL AGAIN FUNDS YOU IN KAUAI AND HAWAII ISLAND. WAHIAWA WITH MAUI DOING INFO INBRIEFING. Testifier: RIGHT. INFO. Councilmember Weyer: WHAT FROM US FREIGHTS ME IS ONE THING FRUSTRATES.

TIME ARE TOUGH. AND THEY'RE LIEN. AND WE GOT TOWN U BALANCE OUR BULLYING THAT'S TRUE BUDGET BALANCE OUR BUDGET. DON'T GET UP AND TELL THE COMMUNITY EVERYBODY IS OKAY. I'M SURE WE ALL READ THE TESTIMONY. INCLUDING IT'S PRESENTATION BY THE FOOD BANK IN APPLESEED. RIGHT? THEEL OVER, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER NOT EATING EVERY DIRE SKIPPING MEALS. AND THEN, KNOWING THAT THOUSAND OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FALLING OFF OF ACCESS BECAUSE OF CHANGES IN ELIGIBILITY. AND THE SPECIFIC TESTIMONY BY NONPROFITS ACKNOWLEDGING THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE FEDERAL FUNDS WE'RE RECEIVING. IT'S ABOUT THE GAPS THAT EXIST. ADD FACTS THAT PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY GOING HUNGRY IN OUR COMMUNITY CURMTDLY GOING HUNGRY. THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE GOING UP. RIGHT? SO I RESPECT EVERYONE AND DIFFERENCES WE ARE OWL ALL HAVE DIFFERENT VALUE AN DIFFERENT POSITIONS. BUT P WHAT CONCERNS ME IS TO HEAR NARRATIVE THAT EVERYTHING IS OKAY. WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING HUNGRY. WHEN YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S ENOUGH. BECAUSE THE NONPROFITS SERVED THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT. AND SO HEAR YOU TURNING DOWN OR SAYING WE DON'T NEED THOSE FUNDS TO FEED OUR KUPUNA. THAT ARE GOING TO GO HUNGRY U AGAIN, TOUGH TIMES. BALANCING PRIORITIES. BUT IT'S JUST YOU THO MY FEAR IS I DON'T GET TH THE SENSE OF URGENCY AND A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS. PREFLEBLGHT SEVERITY OF WHAT OUR FAMILIES ARE EXPERIENCING. REFLECT. LIKE, I MEAN I KNOW WE'RE BALANCING. BUTEL THIS IS LEGIT. DOLLARS TO FOOD. IN KUPUNA'S MOUTHS. WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE IT. SO I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO DIMINISH IT. OR ACT LIKE, WE'RE PUTTING

FUNDING TOWARDS IT. AND SOME OTHER PRIORITIES ARE MORE IMPORTANT. TO IS ZUCKERBERG E'O ISN'T DISTRICT SPECIFIC. ISLANDWIDE. WOULD BE AVAILABLE THIS ISN'T DISTRICT. OTHER COUNTIES MAKING FUNDS AVAILABILITY AND IT WOULD BE US PUTTING SKIN IN THE GAME TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU CHAIR. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM.

Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: AT THAT NG THANK YOU. I'LL START BY MAKING ONE NOTE ABOUT THE GA, NOTE THAT'S AMOUNT IN GVMENTD I AUW ORIGINAL PROPOSED BUDGET. GVMENTD IA COMMISSION, RECOMMENDED THE USES OF THAT. GI A.I. ALLOCATION VARY DRAWS VARIOUS NONPROFIT US. 800 THOU GAP REELED BETWEEN ADD URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND ALLY EDUCATION. GO TOWARDS THE JUNE COUNCIL MEETING, GOING TO BE WORKING ON ALLOCATE. FINDING WAYS FOR THAT HE ROA MAGNUM $800,000 TO BE USED. BECAUSE I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE, ARE THAT AS EVERYBODY OF THIS GIA MONEY SHOULD BE GOING OUT IT AS POSSIBLE. I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT WITH REGARD TO KUPUNA FEET FEEDING,-FEEDING. THE THERE ARE SOME OTHER AGENCIES THAT WORK ON THIS. WE HAVE PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT DOES PEOPLE'S OPEN MARKET UNDERSTAND TRYING TO RETHINK HOW THAT WORKS. AS WELL AS O.E.R. DOING FOOD, ACCESS, RAIL STATION. BUT P IF WE'RE GOING TO IT CUT O.E.R. THAT GOES AWAY. SO DCS THEN BECOMES ONLY VENUE FOR FOOD ACCESS. SO I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS ARE INTERCONNECTED.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. TUPOLA ALOHA. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON SEPARATE ITEM THAT MAY BE IN HEREMENT AND AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE, AND YOU HAVE VAST KNOWLEDGE OF IT I WANTED TO DO SEE IF YOU HAD THIS SO I WAS CONTACT RECENTLY, BY ONE OF OUR MALAMA MOBILE. ACTUALLY PART OF KAPALANA. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAD SOME FUNDING BUT LOOKING FOR MORE BECAUSE THEY LOST SOME FEDERAL DOLLARS AND ARE ABOUT TO CLOSE IN SEPTEMBER. IS THERE ANY CURRENT FUNDING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AT THAT COULD HELP THEM I BELIEVE THEIR GAP IS ABOUT $450,000. MIGHT HAVE JUST RECENTLY LAST WEEK GOT $100,000. CONNECTED THEM TO A FEW OTHER ENTCYTIES TO HELP THEM OUT. ENTITIES. DO WE HAVE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS IN THESE LINE ITEMS THAT COULD HELP WITH THAT? ,.

Testifier: DID HE DEEPING PEDEPENDING VENDORS. STATE AND DIRECTS ELIGIBLE TO TAKE FEDERAL DOLLARS. STATE REQUIREMENT FROM REGULAR SMALL NONPROFIT TO RECALL FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS NEEDED, SINGLE AUDITS, ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, RECORDKEEPING REQUIREMENTS. INVOLVED. BUT MOST OF THINGS LARGELY STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDED, WE DO OUR OTHER FUNDING QUITE A BIT OF RESTRICTIONS AND REQUIREMENTS. BACK OFFICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE. THEY WOULD ABLE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF OUR UPCOMING SOLICITATIONS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR GRANT PROGRAM. BUT OTHERWISE, IN TERMS OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS LARGELY LIMITED TO OUR GRANTS IN AID PROGRAM. TUPOLA YOU'RE SAYING FOR SPECIFIC NEED. IT WOULD BE GIA RELATED AS OPPOSED TO IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN INSERTED, THAT WE ACTUALLY ASSIST WITH THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? DOES SOUND LUKE MOST OF OUR STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS WHAT YOU GUYS ALOE CAUGHT FOR THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAM. IS THAT.

Testifier: CORRECT. 80% OF MY BUDGET ISEL OR I'M SORRY, 70% OF MY BUDGET IS STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS. OTHER 10% IS TIA PROGRAM.

Chair Okimoto: TOMB CIRCLE BACK I THINK THAT I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY FUND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS IN MY COMMUNITY. FROMERING ELDERLY PROGRAMS YMCA TO ELEPAIO COMMUNITY KNEE FEEDING MPLED HANDFUL THINGS I GOT TO MY COMMUNITY AND YOU GUYS ORGANIZE IT. PAID FOR IT. SPECIFICALLY RESOURCE FAIR WE HAD ON SATURDAY. ELDERS AFFAIRS DIVISION PAID FOR THAT ONE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID THAT WE DON'T NEED MORE I THINK WE COULD ALWAYS USE MORE. AND YOU THINK THAT IS WHAT MY COMMUNITY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF. A LOT HELP THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. JUST DON'T WANT THE CITY TO NOT DO WHAT THEY CURRENTLY BEEN DOING. SO I NUI SELFIESTY OF WHAT YOU SAID WAS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN. AND IS YOUR POSITION THAT THE MILLION DOLLARS BEING ADDED IS IT NECESSARY BECAUSE YOU HAVE FUNDING AND YOU FEEL LIKE THE 2.3 MILLION STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT NEEDS TO TO BE. OR YOU BLEB THAT LEVERAGING MORE GENERAL FUNDS WOULD BE HELPFUL?

Testifier: CLARIFY, MY POSITION, YOU'RE CORRECT. I'M NOT DISCOUNTING FOOD INSECURITY. THAT IS VALUABLE THING. REACTING TO WHAT'S IN HERE. PROVISO. REACTING. MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE CURRENT EXPENSES, IDENTIFIED GENERAL FUNDS, IS MONEY I DON'T HAVE. A INDICATED WHAT'S THAT THAT ACCOUNT, IS $120,000. SO IT'S NOT I CAN'T EVEN GET TO THE MILLION DOLLARS.

Councilmember Tupola: UNDERSTOODISM WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. EDWARD BEEN HUGE PROPONENT YOU'LL THE ANGST WE NEEDED TO COMMUNITY. PROPONENT. ALMOST EVERY ASK CAN GIVE YOU GUYS, TRIED SCROUNGE UP SOME TIME YOU HAVE FUNDS HELPOUS UMPLET THANK YOU VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO MORE KINGS ON THIS. BUT THANK YOU FOR CLEAR FINDING WHAT IS THERE AND WHAT CAN BE DONE. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. CHAIR WATERS. Councilmember Weyer: ONE QUESTION. DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTRY. YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT THE $2 MILLION? ADDED FOR THE GRANTS IN AID? I MEAN, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT. I WANTED TO CLARIFY. IS THAT CORRECT.

Chair Waters: YOU TESTIFYING AGAINST THIS 2 MILLION? NONPROFITS IN OUR --

Testifier: FOR THE QUESTION. THERE IS NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. $2 MILLION OR $10 MILLION, $100 MILLION, I THINK OUR NMPLET GO COMMUNITY WOULD ABSORB THAT ALL AND PROVIDE PHENOMENAL JOCK IN ADMINISTRATING IT. MAKAPUU THOSE MAKAPUU THOSE PROGRAM. WITH RESPECT TO MAINTAINING BALANCED BUDGET AND BALANCED PERSPECTIVE, ACROSS WHOLE CITY AND AIR PROGRAMSER THAT IS MY POSITION IN TERMS OF YOU KIND THAT INTEREST OF FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU CHAIR WARING'S. MEMBERS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? FOR DEPUTY DIRECTOR? DEPUTY DIRECTOR ANYTHING ELSE WOPPED TO ADD? Testifier: NO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SORE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. THANK YOU. SUPPORT OF.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. YOU AND WAD TO ADD. MEMBERS, FOR DCF CHAIR REP ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO DCS. AS LISTED ON PAGE 21. 22 AND 23. MEMBERS ALSO, ON PAGE 21, I WILL BE ACCEPTING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. TO THE OFFICE OF GRANTS MANAGEMENT ACTIVITY. WHICH ADDS 1.00 FTE AND APPROPRIATES OF $66,324 OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR SALARIES. AND ADDING PROVIEWS OWE TO READ, AT LEAST $66,324 OUT OF SAL ARE YOUS SHALL BE A APPROPRIATED FOR A PLANNER 4 TO SUPPORT THE CONTRACTING AND ADMINISTRATION OF GRANTS FUNDING. MEMBERS ALSO, ON PAGE 27, SECOND PROPOSED AMENDMENT, OKAY,EL REGARDING THE FIRST PROPOSAL PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT I JUST STATED FOR PAGE 21, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION? THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINEN OF PAGE 231. THAT IS FOR CHUN-JEN. PAGE IT 21. CORRECT. PAGE 21.

Councilmember Kia'aina: APPRECIATE IT.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. AT THIS TIME. CHAIR ACCEPTS AMENDMENTS. WE'LL NOW PROCEED ON TO PAGE 23. AND 24. CULTURE RECREATION DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. WE DO HAVE WITH US FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR LAURA THIELEN. GOOD AFTERNOON BUDGET CHAIR. AND COUNCILMEMBERS. LAURA THIELEN ON BEHALF OF DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. SO OUR DEPARTMENT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO PROPOSED AMENDMENTS IN THE BUDGET FOR THE PAGE 23, THERE IS A PROPOSED RELATIVELY SMALL REDUCTIONS IN THE CURRENT EXPENSES FOR ADMINISTRATION URBAN FORESTRY,ER AND ON THE TOP OF PAGE 24, MAINTENANCE SUPPORT SERVICES. YOU KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION TBL LAPSING. AND WHAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT IN THE CURRENT EXPENSES, FOR A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS, INCLUDING URBAN FORESTRY, A LOT OF THAT IS WATER AND ELECTRICAL. TREE TRIPPING, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, YOU GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT TREES AND WE HAVE TO TRIP THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND TREE TRIPPING FISCAL YEAR '25, ENTIRE LEANS OF THE $11 MILLION CURRENT EXPENSES FOR DIVISION URBAN FORESTRY $64,000. UTILIZE THE CONTRACTS ENDS EXTENSIVE LIMIT IT WOULD IMPACTS THEIR ON RUSSIANS. MS S PROPOSED $140,000 REDUCTION ON THE CURRENT EXPENSES FOR MSS IS YOU FOLKS

KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY EFFICIENT MASTER CONTRACT AND GETTING JOBS OUT. AND FISCAL YEAR ' 24. TOTAL LAPSE WAS 82,000. AND FISCAL YEAR '25, OUT OF THE $12 MILLION BUDGET, IT TOTAL LAPSE IS $280,000. SO WE'RE ASKING TO 10 KEEP CURRENT EXPENSES AND BE RESTORED ON ADMINISTRATION EVEN THOUGH IT'S RELATIVELY LOW, ADMINISTRATION HANDLED A LOT OF LONG RANGE PLANNING AND SO WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THE ASSET MANAGEMENT, ROOFING, AND THE CLIMATE CHANGE PLANS AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT. ON THE PAGE 24, REDUCTIONS ARE DEALING MOSTLY ARE WITH REACTION SERVICE AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE. AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO OUR FIXED COSTS, ON CURRENT EXPENSES, THE AT THE PRESENT TIME OVERALL IS SPENDING WE'RE APPROACHING ABOUT $10 MILLION A YEAR IN WATER. WE'RE APPROACHING $6 MILLION A UHERO FOR ELECTRICAL. WE'RE APPROACHING $2 MILLION A YEAR FOR SEWERS. AND FOR THE SECURITY CONTRACTS, WE'RE ABOUT $4.5 MILLION A YEAR. WHEN YOU GET INTO THINGS LIKE TOILET PAPER, TOILETS AND THOSE TYPE OF SUPPLIES, THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO. SO EVEN THOUGH THOSE CURRENT EXPENSES ITEMS LOOK FAIRLY LARGE, YOU ABOUT 71% OF THEM ARE FOR THOSE TYPES OF UTILITIES FIXED COSTS. THAT ARE NONDISCRETIONARY. AND SO THESE REDUCTIONS IN RECREATION AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTING BECAUSE I CAN DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS ON YOU E'O MAINTENANCE SUED, SMALL EQUIPMENT. AND SUPPLIES FOR BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE PARK AREAS AND FOR THE RECREATION IT'S TENDS TO BE SUPPLIES FOR THE EVENTS, MAY DAY, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO THE BUDGET HEARING TODAY YOU FOLKS MISSED. SUMMER FUN PROGRAM AND THEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF CLASSES THAT WE DO. AND THEN LASTLY, THANK YOU FOR

NOT REDUCING THE SALARIES FOR ADMINISTRATION URBAN FOREST REPLENISHMENT MMPLET SS I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SALARY REDUCTION -- MMPLET SSA FOR RECREATION SERVICE. MSS AND THEN ALSO FOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE. AS YOU MAY RECALL, DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION WAS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS WHERE THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN THE ALLOCATION FOR I DON'T KNOW IF I'M USING TERMINOLOGY RIGHT, FOR SALARIES BEFORE 5%, AND SO WITH THIS CUMULATIVE AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION, IT IS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE I'M A LULL CONCERNED. WE DO HAVE A VACANCY RATE. WE ARE FILLING ABOUT 125 POSITIONS A YEAR. OUR VACANCY RIGHT NOW IS IN THE TEENS. WE STILL DO HAVE PEOPLE LEAVING BECAUSE IT IS EMPLOYEE MARKET. BUT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BE FILLING POSITIONS, CONSTANTLY WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE THE REVENUE FOR IT. AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE STOP FILLING WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO LEAVE AND THEN STATE R START TILLING WE WITH US HAVE TO BE CONSTANTLY FILLING, RECRUITING AND SO, WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR RECONSIDERATION ON THAT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK ANY QUESTIONS.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS QUESTIONS? CHAIR WATERS.

Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU CHAIR. ER THANK YOU DIRECTOR THIELEN. REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND I HAVE TO SAY, YOUR DEPARTMENT PROBABLY HAS BEEN THE BEST OWL OF YOU ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AS FAR AS, TRYING TO COUNCIL PRIORITIES. SO APPRECIATE THAT. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY, GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS LATELY. ABOUT PPR CLOSING DOWN BASEBALL FIELDS AFTER THE RAIN. THINK ENTIRE SECOND HALF OF THE ILH BASEBALL SEASON WAS CANCELED. NOT WITH STANDARD DEVIATIONING THAT, GOOD NEWS THAT I WANT TO REPORT TO YOU, ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE PLEASE INTEREST NOT CUTS. SO IF AND WHEN YOU GO THROUGH ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WAS APPROPRIATED, TO DP ARE THE YOU E'O R, YOU CAN LUC URBAN DEVELOPMENT ALWAYS COME BACK DH. E'O P RVMENT ALWAYS COME BACK BAY AND ASK THE PARKS CHAIR AND/OR BUDGET CHAIR, TO ALLOCATE THE MONEY FROM THIS PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT EXTRA STUFF STEP BUT IT'S GONE. IT'S STILL THERE. SO WORK WITH US. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

Testifier: THANK YOU CHAIR WATERS. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK FROM THE I THINK FROM THE CELTS WHERE YOU SIT. LOGIC MAINS CENTS. FROM THE SEATS WHERE THE OPERATING DEPARTMENT SITS, IT IS DEATH BY ANOTHER OF THE THOUSAND PAPER CUTS. THE LEVEL OF PROCESS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH, NORTHBOUND TO EXPEND FUNDS, AND IN ORDER TO. HAVE PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD TO EITHER HIRE OR TO PURCHASE ITEMS OR TO CAN GO THROUGH A CONTRACT. WE CANNOT START THAT PROCESS UNTIL THE R UNLESS WE SHOW THAT MONDAY IS IN OUR BUDGET. HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND GET THAT PERMISSION FIRST IN ORDER TO ADD IT IN INTO THE BUDGET. BUT THAT IS ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER PERMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. IT BECOMES UB TENABLE. FACING A SITUATION HRA*RGS YEAR WITH NUMBER OF ETHICS LAPSE ON OUR EQUIPMENT BUDGET. GOT OUR PAPERWORK IN FOR THE EQUIPMENT EARLY IN NOVEMBER. CHANNEL CHALLENGE IS PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO MANAGE PURCHASES FOR SO MANY DEPARTMENTS. ER PUT THINGS O YOU OUT TO BID TAKES TIME GET BATEDS BUILDING BACK IN. BIDS MAY BE HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU THOUGHT. HAVING TO CUT CERTAIN PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD EVERYTHING. SO WHAT DO YOU GIVE UP? AND THEN WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH THE LEFT OVER MONEY THAT IS NOT, IT IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT SMALL ASTRONOMICAL TO RUN THROUGH THE PROCESSES THAT THE DEPARTMENT CVS FOR RUN THROUGH, IN ORDER TO EXTEND THE MONEY. SO TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER ON, IS IT MAKES DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING THINGS DONE NOT GETTING THINGS DONE. NO SUBMITTED LAYER IS UNREASONABLE. IT IS THE CUMULATIVE, LAYERS

OF PERMISSION THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT IS CREATING THE PROBLEM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THE BASIC OPERATIONAL WORK. THAT IS WHY THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ASKING TO PLEASE NOT TAKE MONEY AND PUT IT INTO A PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT. THIS COUNCIL MEETS ONCE A MONTH. COME ON IF NOR A RESOLUTION TO GET APPROVAL, THAT IS GOING TO SLOW US DOWN BY ABOUT 30 DAYS. FOR A LOT OF THINGS. WHEN YOU'RE RUSHING TOWARD THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF THE FISCAL KA YEAR, TO GET THINGS DONE. MORE MONEY IS GOING TO LAPSE. NOT LESS.

Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THAT. BECAUSE YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE TO ACTUALLY SAY THAT OUT LOUD. AND I CAN'T SAY FIRST ONE. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT GOT TO JUMP THROUGH SO MANY HOOPS PROBABLY BFS BFS. NOT HERE ON THE COUNCIL. WE EVERY TIME WE GET TRANSFER OF FUNDS, I IMMEDIATELY REFER IT AND COUNCIL BUDGET CHAIR HEARSE IT. AND I DON'T THINK WE EVER DENIED ONE. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE LAYERS. SELF-IMPOSED BY THE ADMINISTRATION. NOT THE CITY COUNCIL.

Testifier: I THINK A LOT OF THE RED TAPE IS ACTUALLY IMPOSED UNDER THE STATE LAWS. SO THE PROCUREMENT LAWS ARE INCREDIBLY COMPLEX. AND WHAT THEY REQUIRE. BE GONE IN ORDER TO EXPEND MONEY. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS COUNCIL OR WITH BFS. IT'S IMPOSED BY STATE LAW. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE UTILIZING FEDERAL MONEY FOR CONTRACTING, THE REQUIREMENTS THERE ARE IMPOSED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO A LOT OF IT SMALL U SMALL ASTRONOMICAL NOT SOMETHING WE CONTROL. AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY EFFICIENT WHEN WE HAVE COME IN TO REQUEST ROA TO REOL ALLOCATE MONEY. OUR DEPARTMENT DID THIS RECENTLY FOR THE ELECTRIC BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROCESSING THAT QUICK. THE STILL IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY HAPPENS ONCE A MONTH. AND SO THAT THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO SLOW DOWN AND I THINK WE'LL RESULT IN MORE LAPSING RATHER THAN LESS.

Councilmember Waters: FISCAL YEAR 2025, LOOKS LIKE D PR LAMBED 12 MILLION. DIRE DIRE 12,319,006.82 AMOUNTS TO 10% OF YOUR END TOUR BUDGET. SO LAKE LIKES LOOK YOU GOT MONEY WITHIN YOUR BUDGET. JUST PROBABLY NEED TO MORPHING AROUND TO FULFILL THESE NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE. MOVING IT AROUND.

Testifier: OUR LAPSES WERE PRIMARILY IN THE SALARY. SO WE'VE TAKEN A% CUT IN THE SALARY. WE WILL NOT SEE THOSE TYPES OF LAPSES -- 5%, FISCAL YEAR '27 BECAUSE OF THAT REDUCTION. AND AS POINTED UTTERLY YEAR WE ARE LAPSING VERY LITTLE MONEY IN THE CURRENT EXPENSES. THE ONE LARGEST GROUP WHERE WE DID LAPSE IN CURRENT EXPENSES LAST YEAR, WAS OUR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE. WE WENT BACK AND TOOK A LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND THERE WAS CERTAIN ALLOY EDUCATION OF FUNDS IN GROUNDS MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD BE BETTER IN MAINTENANCE SUPPORT SERVICE, SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FISCAL YEAR '27 BUDGET PROPOSAL, IS WE SHIFERLTED THOSE MONIES OVER. AND WE ANTICIPATE YOU WILL NOT SEE THOSE TYPES OF LAPSES AGAIN. IN FISCAL YEAR ' 2-6Z. SO WE ARE MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU DO HAVE VERY HARD JOB UNTIL HOW TO ALE O EDUCATE MONEY BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPENDING EVERY PENNY. IN PARKS ON MAKING THEM SAFE AND SECURE FOR PEOPLE.

Chair Okimoto: FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS? O CHAIR ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO D PR LISTED ON PAGES 23 AND 24. PAGE 25 DEPARTMENT OF ENTERPRISE SERVICE. I DO BELIEVE I SEE WITH US DIRECTOR DITA HOLLIFIELD. GOOD AFTERNOON DIRECTOR.

Testifier:ER GAMPLET. ERR CHAIR OKIMOTO. DITA DIRECTOR OF ENERPRISE SERVICE THE GREAT TO SEE YOU CHAIR WATERS. AS WELL. I'M HEAR TOD TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE. FOR $614,000 FOR THE HONOLULU ZOO. APOLOGIES, FOR MY VOICE. THIS MORNING. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW CURRENT EXPENSES FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF EXHIBITS ANIMAL PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, AN FURTHEREL COMPLY WITH REQUIREMENTS BUT THE AZAEL ALLOCATION PART. INTEREST OF THE 3 MINUTES THAT I'VE BEEN A LOT THE TODAY, I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF DO SOME BROAD STROKES BUT I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS FOR ANY SPECIFICS FOR ANY OF THE LINE ITEMS. WE ARE GOING TO BE LEAD UNITED AGO ASSISTANCE AT THE ELEPHANT EXHIBIT AT THE HIPPO EXHIBIT. WE NEED SOME FUNDING AT THE PRIMATE ISLAND AND SIDE MANAGE. AT THE SUN BEAR EXHIBITOR, TO MODIFY TO INCLUDE BIT WRONGS AND THEN, WE HAVING SOME MAJOR ELECTRICIAN ISSUES. WE NOT REALLY HAD CONSISTENT ELECTRICITY SINCE DECEMBER AFTER HEAVY RAINS, KONA LOWS UNCOVERED EVEN MORE ISSUES. SO WHICH ARE THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO HOUSE AND TTAKE CARE OF THE OTHER 9 24 ANIMALS. THAT WE OVERSEE EVERY SINGLE DAY. HONOLULU ZOO. AND WE APPRECIATE AND IN A ASSISTANCE THAT YOU CAN GIVE US AT THIS TIME.

Chair Cordero: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. MEMBERS QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DIRECTOR? CHAIR WATERS. Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S DIRECTOR. THROUGH THE MAYOR. WERE YOU SERIOUS ABOUT IF HE GETTING PANDAS TO THE HONOLULU WEST OAHU? Testifier: OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. PER PANDA? HONOLULU ZOO.

Testifier: SO, CURRENT NEGOTIATION PRICES FOR PAN DCCA FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO TAKE SOME PANDA CLASSES -- UPON PANDA IN THERE AND AND ATLANTA ZOO, ARE JUST WELCOMING TO TWO NEW PANDAS. FELL LIKE I'VE GOT LATEST GREATEST NEWS ON ALL OF THAT. SO IT REQUIREMENT CURRENTLY, THAT'S NOT NEGOTIATE CIAL, IS SUPPOSED TO BE TEN YEAR, LICENSE. YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE TWO PANDAS. AND THEN IT'S MILLION DOLLARS PER PANDA PER YEAR. HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO DEPENDING ON THE MARKET THAT THE PANDAS ARE GOING TO BE LICENSED TO. FOR LESSER COSTS. ALSO LTS GOES ALONG WITH THAT, SINCE YOU'RE DOING, ASKING, REQUIRED TO HAVE YOUR OWN PANDA VETERINARIAN, ALSO BE NEEDING BAMBOO FARM AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. VERY SERIOUS INVESTMENT. BUT IT'S VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY ECONOMICALLY. HONOLULU ZOO CURRENTLY RIGHT RIT NOW, TAKES ANYTHING BETWEEN 40 AND 60%. FROM THE TOURISTS MARKET. SO THAT IS REALLY BIG PIECE OF THE REVENUE GENERATING. SO WHAT WE HAVE OTHER IDEAS TOO. WE ARE LOOKING TO KOALAS AND KANGAROOS AND SOME OTHER DIFFERENT ANIMALS TO BRING OUT COLLECTION. UP TO THE AZ STANDARDS AND MAKE IT VERY EXCITING. AND HARD TO MISS WHEN YOU COME TO HONOLULU TO VISIT.

Chair Okimoto: OKAY. SO NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR PANDAS. BUT WHEN YOU'RE COMPETING FOR FUNDS, WHAT IS IT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TODAY? Testifier: $614,000. Councilmember Waters: OKAY. I MEAN, THAT IS MONEY FOR PAN PANDCCA. WHAT WE GOT TO DECIDE. NOT TODAY I GUESS. PANDARS NOT ASKING FOR MONEY TO PANDAS TODAY. THANK YOU APPRECIATE AT THAT. Testifier: THANK YOU. CHAIR WATERS. PUPU U. Councilmember Tupola: YOUR REQUEST WHAT YOU REQUESTED? Testifier: YES. Councilmember Tupola: OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOOD WITH EVERYTHING ELSE ON HERE?

Testifier: YES. THANK YOU SOISM. LIKE WE'VE BEEN VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. AND FINITE. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER FUNDING FORCES AS WELL. THINGS WE NEED ELECTORAL COMPLETE THE ADZ. ACCREDITATION PROCESS. Chair Okimoto: THANK Y YOU. Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA.

Councilmember Kia'aina: THANK YOU. THANK YOU DIRECTOR. EASY FOR OFFENSIVELY TO US GET EXCITED ABOUT PANDAS. OF COURSE. BUT I NEED TO TELL YOU THAT I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE COSTS OF THE PANDAS. BUT THE MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO COST MORE THAN THE PAN DCCA. IT'S DID NOT WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT CLIMATE. AND AS A RESULT, THE ENVIRONMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE ACCOMMODATED FOR THEM. AND THEN THAT WILL GO TO THE WELFARE. YOU KNOW, AND THEIR WELL-BEING. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK HARD AT WHETHER OR NOT THAT MOVES FORWARD. BECAUSE WE WOULD HATE FOR ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS MAKING AT THE ZOO. TO GO BACKWARDS BECAUSE ALL OF THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PANEL PANDAS. I THINK THAT KOALAS AN KANGAROOS ARE FANTASTIC IDEA. AND SO GIBB PLENTY OF KOALAS. OKAY? THANK YOU. GET PLENTY.

Testifier: VERY FAIR. I APPRECIATE YOUR SEPTEMBER 11 IMMINENT FOR SURE. SENTIMENT FOR SURE. Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU. JUST FOLLOW APUNA THAT. KOALA KANGAROO BE SUBSTANTIALLY LESS MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF? Testifier: ESSENTIALLY. YES. Councilmember Weyer: GOOD TO HEAR. THANK YOU. Testifier: TRYING TO DREAM BIG. Councilmember Weyer: ININNOVATIVE GREAT IDEA. Chair Okimoto: FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION FOREL DES? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DIRECTOR HOLLIFIELD. Testifier: THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CHAIR BE ACCEPTING BRIAN MIYAMOTO TO IT DES LISTED ON PAGE 25. SENDING AMENDMENTS. OBJECT PAGES 26 AND 27, OTHER MISCELLANEOUS AND TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS. I HAVE ON MY AGENDA, DIRECTOR ANDY KAWANO, I THINK I SAW DO YOU IS HE DIRECTOR ANDREW KAWANO OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR HERE ALSO. FASTED DIRECTOR KAWANO.

Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON. BUDGET CHAIR, GOOD AFTERNOON. OKAY MOST OWAKUMI, AND COKE OKAMOTO COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. IT'S BEEN A LONGAKIT MEETING. I THINK MANAGING DIRECTOR. COVERED HIS CONCERNS ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE PROVISIONALS. I THINK TRANSFERS OBVIOUSLY WILL GET FINALIZED AS BUDGETS ARE FINALIZED. SO I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS IF ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. MISS LINNAEUS SECTION OF THE BUDGET. MISCELLANEOUS. Chair Okimoto: QUESTIONS, I SEE COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU CHAIR. QUESTION ABOUT THE PROPOSED REDUCTION FOR PROVISIONS FOR ENERGY COSTS. REDUCTION OF $4.1 MILLION. HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT SIT OPERATIONS GIVEN WHERE OIL PRAISE PRICES ARE, GIVEN HECO IS PROPOSED HE PROPOSING TO RAISE ELECTRICIAN TRIRATE ASSETS. ELECTRICITY RATES,.

Testifier: I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND A LOT OF IT IS BECAUSE UNCERTAINTY GOING FORWARD. HAVE YOU THAT WAR BETWEEN ISRAEL, U.S. AND RON. WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO GO. IRON ARNDT, H HORMUZ STRAIGHT CONTINUES TO BE CLOSED FOR WEEKS UPON WEEKS. YOU HAVE OIL SUPPLIES THROUGH THE THE WORLD THAT LILIHA DWINDLE. AND IT'S GOING TO DRIVE PRIES PRY PRIESING UMPLE DWIND MANY HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON OIL PATROL ULU @PROBINGING WE DO. SUPPLIES POWER. PRODUCTS EVERYTHING. SO I AM CONCERNED. I WILL JUST LEAVE IT. IF YOU ASK ME FOR A NUMBER THAT WE NEED I DON'T KNOW. TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER DOWN, BASED ON DATA THAT WE HAD, BEFORE THE WAR. I THINK MAY RESULT CHALLENGES NEXT YEAR. WE'LL SEE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. MEMBERS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KAWANO? SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. EL OR DISCUSSION. THE CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS LISTED ON PAGES 2-6Z AND 27. MEMBERS ALSO ON PAGE 27. SECOND PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE NEW PROVISION FOR OPERATIONS AND EMERGENCY RECOVERY ACTIVITY WHICH APPROPRIATES $41,000,000.137539 OUT OF CURRENT EXPENSES, I WILL BE INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION BY $369,476, AMOUNT THAT WAS REDUCE THE FROM THE ROYAL MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY THIS THIS MORNING AND AMOUNT THAT WAS INCREASED IN THE OFFICE OF GRANTS MANAGEMENT ACTIVITY. THIS AFTERNOON. THE NEW APPROPRIATION AMOUNT WILL BE $41,000,000.507015. ANY QUESTIONSEL OR DISCUSSION? 14 MILLION. SEEING NONE OF THE AMENDMENTS LISTED, ON EDGHILL PAS 28 THROUGH 31. EXCLUDING FIRST AMENDMENT, ON THE TOP OF PAGE 28. ARE THE CUSS MOTHER YOU AMENDMENTS MADE CUSTOMARY BALANCES PURPOSES AND ARE ACCEPTED BY THE CHAIR. MOVING BACK TO PAGE 18. PREVICE HES. ATTACHED WORKSHEET PAGES 30 THROUGH 37. PROVISOS, I DO HAVE AGAIN DIRECTOR ANDREW KAWANO HERE WITH US. MEMBERS PRESENTS IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. TO THE PROVISOS. WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR HERE WITH US AT THIS TIME. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I ONE QUESTION. NUMBER OF THESE ESTIMATES INCLUDING THE ESTIMATED GET REVENUE T.A.T. REVENUE, ET CETERA, BASED IN EXPWROAKSES FROM LAST YEAR. WHO DO WE ANTICIPATE GETTING UPDATED NUMBERS ONEL EXPECTED RECEIPTS FROM THESE SORT SORES. I WORRY SOURCES. WORRY GOING BACK TO UNCERTAINTY IN THE WORLD, THAT OUR T.A.T. REVENUE MAY NOT BE WHAT IT IS TODAY. WITH PRICE OF EVERYTHING GOING UP, I IRON CREU, G.E.T. REVENUES MAY ALSO END UP GOING DOWN AS A RESULT OF DECREASES CONSUMER SPENDING. WHICH TRACK OUR RECEIPTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO AS WE CLOSE THE QUARTER I WOULD SAY, WITHIN TWO TO THREE WEEKS, WE HAVE PRETTY SOLID NUMBERS. ON WHAT WE RECEIVED. BUT THERE ARE REAL PROPERTY TAXES FOR INSTANCE, THERE ARE PAYMENTS THAT KIND OF TRICKLE INEL NUMBER OF MONTHS AFTER YEAR END. FROM TIME TO TIME. SO WE CAN GETTY THINK MATERIAL TOTALS OF RECEIPTS, ACTUAL BASIS. IF YOU SEND US A REQUEST FOR THE INFORMATION, ARISER WHICH CAN GET INFORMATION TO YOU. WE CAN GET. COUNCILMEMBERMENT TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. THINK OTHER DISCUSSIONS FOR DIRECTOR KAWANO AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU DIRECTOR KAWANO. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ON THE PROVISOS CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTINGER AMENDMENTS TO THE PROVISOS LOCATE ON THE TOP OF PAGE 18. A A MUCH TAXED PAGES 32 THROUGH 37. ATTACHED AS PAGES. MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. FOR BILL 23, II 2. FURTHER DISCUSSION? BILL 22. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO.

Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE BUDGET TEAM. I DO WANT TO NOTE AS WITH WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION, MORE DISCUSSIONS AND MONEY BEING SOUGHT. BEING I DO WANT TO BRING UP AGAIN, HPD HAS LAPSED $44 MILLION XY AND Z STATE TO DO THEM BACK IN FY '24. THEN 22 MILLION AGAIN, IN IT FY '25. THEY MAYBE DUE 2 MILLION WHO KNOWS? EL ANOTHER TRANSFER OF FUNDS PROBABLY ANTICIPATE WHOLE MILLION MORE FROM HPD AGAIN. SO I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHILE WE ARE NICKEL AND DIMING A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THAT WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW HPD TO JUST GO BAN ON AND ON. WITH THEIR LAPSES. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. DMIEWM. Councilmember Tupola: I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND THEN SOME QUESTIONS DO THE QUESTIONS FIRST. SO YOU MENTIONED SOME RESTORATION OF DFM, MAINS. TUCK TAKE ME TO THE ONE YOU JUST SAID. 365. Testifier: PAGE 27. $369,476. THAT WILL GO INTO THE PROVISION INTO YOU TOOK THIS ONE FROM DMP DFM. Chair Okimoto: DFM WAS ON PAGE 18. Councilmember Tupola: I'M ON 18. THIS WAS FROM ROAD MAINTENANCE ACTIVITY. EL TUPOLA YOU SEE IT. THAT'S THE ONE THAT WENT FROM 20 TO 10.

Chair Okimoto: CORRECT. Councilmember Tupola: THAT AMOUNT IS WENT R WHAT WENT OVER THERE. Chair Okimoto: CORRECT. TUPOLA I HAD SEA THAT THE $2 MILLION FOR THE GIA WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT ONE? PAGE 21. YES. ACTUALLY, THAT STAYED WE ADDED YOU FACTORED THAT IN TO THE 41. CORRECT. THAT DIDN'T CHANGE. THERE WAS A -- ADDED AMENDMENT TO ADD ONE FTE FOR THE GRANTS MANAGEMENT POSITION.

Councilmember Tupola: PAGE IT 1. 2 MILLION STAYED AND THEN THERE WAS ADDITION OF-FTE 66,424. OKAY. SO AT THAT WASN'T ON THAT PAGE WE ADA ADDED THAT. THAT WASN'T? VERBAL. EL TUPOLA PAGE 22 FOR THE ELDERLY AFFAIRS LEAVING IN THE 1 MILLION FOR THE KUPUNA. Chair Okimoto: CURRENTLY STAYS IN. TOMB U TUPOLA MAUI QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THAT. BECAUSE MY QUESTION. CURRENT EXPENSES HAVE ELDERLY AFFAIRS. Chair Okimoto: FIGURE THAT OUT LATER.

Councilmember Tupola: I THINK ACCOUNT ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE THAT IN THERE. 120,000. WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER. PAGE 27, THE AMOUNT THAT YOU CAME UP WITH, 41,577, $15 RESULT OF THOSE CHANGES. Chair Okimoto: 41,507,015. YES. AFTER THE CHANGES WITH THE 369,000. Councilmember Tupola: LINE ITEM PROVISION FOR OPERATIONS AND EMERGENCY RECOVERY, NOW HAS NEW NUMBER. Chair Okimoto: CORRECT.

Councilmember Tupola: THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. COMMENT. I GUESS FEW COMMENTS. ONE, IS I DO THINK THAT THERE IS NOT AS MANY DIVISIONSES UTILIZING THE 890, 90 CONTRACT HIRE. SHARE A WHAT THAT IS. 80, 90, FOR YEARS AND YEARS, HPD WAS ASKED TO DO SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICE. ANSWER WAS NO. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICE. NO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICE. FINALLY, WHICH WORK WITH DHR CUT CONTRACTS. SO THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE PENSIONS, TONIGHT INCLUDE OVER TIME. LITERALLY JUST LIKE HOURLY WAGE THAT YOU GET FOR BEING A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. SO I WANT TO SAY, SOMEWHERE AROUND 80 FOR 90,000, THEY WORK FULL-TIME. AND GO TO THE SCHOOLS. AND THAT IS WAS SOMETHING THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT TAXPAYOR US TO DO. BUT HPD HAS TONS OF CONTRACTS THAT CUT THAT WAY. THEY COULD CUT SCHOOL SUPPORT SYSTEMS. BESIDES SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICE. CUT FUNDS FOR PRESENCE PRESENTING AT NO HOPE AND DOPE. DARE PROGRAM. AGAINST DRUGS. COULD DO SIGN-WAVING. AND NOT PAY FULL-TIME OFFICE TO SIGN-WAVEING. DO CONTRACTS FOR THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE HPD TO DO MORE OF THAT. I KNOW CHIEF DOCTOR ABOUT 14 I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 128 OR 14 POSITIONS. BUT THEY COULD LITERALLY CONTRACT OUT A LOT. I MEAN, EVEN RIGHT NOW, DOING FOR HONU, PAYING OFFICE OVER TOMB. SO THAT ARE PAYING THEM VERY HIGH WAGES TO BASICALLY DO WHAT A SECURITY JOB COULD DO. BUT WE'RE ALSO PAYING PENSIONS AND PAYING SALARIES, SO WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT ALL THE POSITIONS WITHIN HPD THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY FILL. AND LIKE COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO SAID, THEY HAVE MILLIONS THAT THEY'RE LAPSING. THEY COULD FILL THESE POSITIONS. RIGHT AWAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN AROUND TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SAY, WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED. THEY COULD FILL IT. RIGHT UBE. HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HELPINGMENT ESPECIALLY THEY JOBS THAT DON'T REQUIRE ACTUAL LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND OR DON'T REQUIRE PAPERWORK OR

INVESTIGATIONS. HE WANTS TO SAY THAT ALSO, APPLIES TO DEM. DEM IS ASKING FOR POSITIONS. I THINK HAVING FEW MORE POSITIONS THAT HE CAN KIND OF DHR PROCESS IS TOUGH. THINK IF YOU PULLS THOSE POSITIONS THROUGH, HE CAN EASILY GET CONTRACT POSITION UP AND THOSE CONTRACTS POSITIONS COULD MOVE RAPIDLY. AND IF IT WORKS WELL, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT PUTTING THEM INTO FTEs. ANOTHER THING FOR DFM REALLY NEEDS TO CONSIDERED, SAY IT AGAIN, THESE EMERGENCY AGENCIES HAVE TO HAVE EMERGENCY CONTRACTS. I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT E AND V HAD EMERGENCY REFUSE CONTRACT. WE'VE NENE USED FOR 20 YEARS. NEVER US. WITHOUT THAT CONTRACT NEVER BEEN ABE OF ABLE TO HANDLE AMOUNT OF TRASH WITH THE STORMMENT THANK GOODNESS THEY THIS HAD A BACKUP. WE FEED SAME THING FOR DFM IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCYEL. 50 MORE WORKERS. IT WAS CRAWSES YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE WORKING OUT THERE. CRAZY. I WANT TO MAKE MENTION MENGES THAT PROBABLY THINGS WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY THAT REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN USED. IF WE USE THOSE WE CAN GET TO THE SAME WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH. I HOPE WE CAN DO THINGS DIFFERENT THIS TIME. BECAUSE NALOXONE A WAY TO GET TO THOSE GOALS AB WE SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION. SUPPORT ALL THE DIVISIONS. WE WANT TO BE A AS FISCALLY PRUDENT AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU SO MUCH. FURTHER DISCUSSION? Councilmember Tulba: VETTEDDING WITH RESERVATIONS. Chair Cordero: VOTING WITH RESERVATIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA.

Councilmember Kia'aina: JUST IN FLOP U FOLLOW-UP TO BOTH THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE MANAGING DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS THE CORPORATION COUNSEL, AND INOUYE WE ALL RECEIVED OF THE EMAIL, HAVING RAISING CONCERNS, ABOUT HE SEPARATION OF POWERS, HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT IN ARE QUESTION GOING BE ADDRESSING THAT PRIOR TO THE FD-1? Chair Waters: YOU MEAN TODAY?

Councilmember Kia'aina: WE WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING. NO. YOU GUESS I KNOW WHAT OBJECTIVE IS TODAY. BUT BEFORE THE FD-1 MOVES, IS IT OUR INTENT TO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS HAPPEN. SENDING THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO. Chair Okimoto: CORRECT. Councilmember Kia'aina: ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS IN ANY FASHION? Chair Okimoto: WHICH WILL HAVE TOMENT CORRECT. Councilmember Kia'aina: WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE AGAIN, I'M NOT WE'RE RECEIVING ALL OF THIS. WE'RE ALL DIGESTING EVERYTHING AND I KNOW YOUR OBJECTIVE IS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. Chair Okimoto: THREED TO BE MINDFUL. DOESN'T WANT TO HOLD IT MORNING. MY OFFICE AND I WERE WORKING WITH O DRVMENT. CS TRIED TO PRESENT IT TO THE ADMINISTRATION. OCS AS YOU GUYS AS OF YESTERDAY AND TODAY.

Vice Chair Nishimoto: WITH REGARD TO THE CONCERNS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSED AND YOU CONTEMPLATED PRIOR TO MOVING. I NEED TO MAKE SURE. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU.

Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. NOT VOTING MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE PROPOSAL TO EFFECTIVELY CREATE A COUNCIL SLUSH FUND 41.5 MODEL. WE ALLOW BASED ON HOW WELL WE THINK OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE DOING. IN DOING THEIR JOB. I THINK THERE IS A HUGE SLOPRY SLOPE IN POLITICIZING THEIR WORK. MAKING SURE THAT IT END UP MAKING THEM SP END TIMEKEEPING US HAPPY. RATHER THAN DOING THE WORK OF PEOPLE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING INTO THIS EYES WIDE OPEN. UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCE OF THAT CASSANDRA BENNETT-BAGORIO COULD BE. E'O -- COULD BE. INFRIEWDING A LOT HOW OUR CIVIL VEARNTS ARE OPERATING AND SERVANTS. VERY CONCERNED, ABOUT JUST LUMPING IT INTO THIS SPLOSH U SPLOSH FUND WE WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER VIA RESOLUTION. SLUSH JMPLET IN THE ANALYSIS AND WHEREINING FROM CORPORATION COUNSEL, PLAY NOT FOLLOW THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE CHARTER DIRECTED ALL OF OUR FUNDS NEED TO BE DRIKD VIA ORDINANCE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. FURTHER DISCUSSION? CHAIR WATERS. EL WEYER SUGGEST U SLUSH FUNDS SUGGESTIONS THAT WE COULD APPROPRIATE IT FOR WHATEVER WE WANT. THAT'S SIMPLY NOT THE CAUGHT. U U CA CASE CASE HAVE TO COME THROUGH RESOLUTION PRESUMABLY. EL INTRODUCED BY THE ADMINISTRATION. ASKING FOR THE USE OF THIS MONEY. SO IT'S NOT A SLUSH FUND. IT'S AGAIN, NOT A CUT EITHER. SET AS SIDE MONEY IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. AND/OR FOR OPERATIONS. IN LIGHT OF WHAT JUST MAP HAPPENED WITH KONA STORMS ONE ADD TWO. AND WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING, NOT ONLY HERE IN HAWAII, BUTEL CONTINENT AS WELL. BUT THESE STORMS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND SEEMS AS THOUGH ADMINISTRATION ABLE TO ABSORB WHAT WE HEARD $30 MILLION. IN THIS YEAR AS BUDGET. WHICH TILLS ME THAT THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE WITHIN THE BUDGET AND IT SETS IT ASIDE, ALSO COULD BE LOOKED AT FOR FISCAL STABILITY. ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT OUR BOND RATING. SO PUTTING MONEY ASIDE, FOR RAINY DAY, I THINK IT'S JUST PRUDENT THING TO DO. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU CHAIR WATERS. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ER LIKE TO CL TO CLOSE WITH COUNCILMEMBER DONAHUE COMMENTS. MAKING VERY DIFFICULT BUT NECESSARY DECISION. REGARDING THE FIRECRACKERS '27 BULLYING. EL CENTRAL TO DISCUSSION FISCAL YEAR. EVERY TAXPAYOR DOLLAR IS MET WITH TRANSPARENCY ACCOUNTABILITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY RESULTS. THE RECENT AUDIT OF THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC REREVITALIZATION REPORT 26-02 MADE IT CLEAR THAT'S CURRENT STRUCTURE OF THE O.E.R. IS NOT MEETING STANDARD OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE. WHEN OFFICE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2020 GIVEN CLEAR MANDATE TO STRENGTHEN OUR ECONOMY THROUGH AGRICULTURE, TECHNOLOGY, AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. FIVE YEARS LOTTER AUDITOR FINDS THAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE ON ONLY THREE OF THE 8 CORE RESPONSIBILITIES. LISTED IN CHARTER SECTION 6 6-109. TESTIMONY CLAIM THAT IS REDUCING O.E.R. BUDGET FORCES US INTO A REACTIVE STATS RESPECTFULLY, AUDIT SHOWS REORGANIZING,ER HAS BEEN REACTIVE FROM DAY ONE. O.E.R., DESPITE BEING CREATED THE IN 2020, SUBSTANTIAL PROGRAM ACTIVITY DIDN'T EVEN BEGIN UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 2023. THAT ISN'T BEING PROACTIVE. THAT IS BEING THREE YEARS BEHIND AND FOCUSING ONLY ON CHARTER SECTION 6-1099A. WE HEARD TODAY A LOT ABOUT VOLATILITY AND PROACTIVE SHIELD OFFICE OF ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION PROVIDES OAHU. BUT IF WE LOOK PAST THE BUSSES WARTED AND ACTUAL JANUARY 2026 CITY ATE B YARDS RIGHT E'O REALITIERER LESS POLISH YOD. TOLD RATHER CRITICAL BRIDGE. AUDIT FOR FOUND OH. RVMENT SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED 3 OF 8 DATE DUTIES MANDATED BY CHARTER RESOLUTION CREATED IT. ANY OTHER SECTOR MEETING 40% OF CORE MICRONESIAN WILL REORGANIZATION. FEDERAL GRANTS TESTIMONY SUGGESTS, THAT WITHOUT THESE

20 PARTIAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN E'O E'O POSITIONS GRANT PERCENT DISAPPEARS. 2023 IT O.E.R. CARROT OUT DEDICATE TEAM TO FIND AND WRITE GRANTS BECAUSE INTERNAL STAFF WASN'T GETTING IT DONE. FINALLY TO THE CONCERN THAT THE BURDEN WILL FALL ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THOSE DEPARTMENTS LIKE DCS AND BFS ARE ALREADY CARRYING WEIGHT. THEY ARE THE ONES DOING THE IT HTECHNICAL ACCOUNTING FOR THE $324 MILLION IN SPENDING THAT THE AUDIT ITS LABEL THE TOUGH TO REVENUE BOND HE RECONCILE. WE ARE NOT GUTTING OFFICERS WE ARE PERFORMING A LONG OVERDUE FISCAL RIGHT SIZING. CANNOT CONTINUE TO FUND AND AMBASSADORS AND CONNECTORS WHILE 60% OF OUR CHOORTDER MANDATED WORK REMAINS YOU EVER UNTOUCH. CHARTER. OFFICE OF McCULLY RIEFLG, IS CURRENTLY SUFFERING FIRST LADY TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF MISSION CREAM. REVITALIZATION. SEEING DEPARTMENTSHIP I HAD THROUGH LEGAL MANDATES TO BECOME A SECONDARY SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY. WHILE NOBLE IN ITS CAUSE, NOT AUTHORIZED BY THE CHARTER, BASED ON THE DID I REMEMBERS TESTIMONY TODAY, WE CAN SEE THAT MISSION CREAM IS TAKING PLACE CURRENT LIMIT THIS IS NOT JUST MY PANELA. BUT LAW. -- CREEP, CHARTER 6-109 H-1 EXPLICIT. MANDATES THAT THIS OFFICE IN COORDINATION WITH COMMISSION PREPARE AND UPDATE STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CITY. NOT A SUGGESTION. MANDATED DUTY. TIME TO PRIORITIZE PERFORMANCE OVER POTENTIAL. REDUCING O.E.R. BUDGET BY $1.4 MILLION AND STREAMLINING STAFFING, WE ARE NOT ABANDONING THE GOAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. RATHER WE ARE UPHOLDING INTEGRITY OF OUREL ADMINISTRATIVE SYSTEMS. WE CHOOSING TO PRIORITIZE PROGRAMS WITH PROOFEN OUTTOM COMES AND REDIRECTING THESE RESOURCES CRITICAL NEEDS IN OUR RUSS DENTS FEEL EVERY DAY. AND RESIDENTS. INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. FINALLY RESPONDING TO STATEMENT MADE EARLIER THIS MORNING. ARE NEW PROPOSED PROVISIONAL ACCOUNT WILL BE LESS TRANSPARENT IS FAR FROM

TRUTHFUL. THE NEW PROVISIONAL WOULD CONTAIN ABOUT 10% OF THE 489 MILLION LAPSED DOLLARS. LAST YEAR. WOULD MAKE ADMINISTRATION JUSTIFIED TRANSFERS BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT. HOW CAN THE ADMINISTRATION ACCUSE THE COUNCIL OF NOT BEING TRANSPARENT WHEN DEPARTMENTS DINE-IN TO TRANSFER SALARY SAVINGS TO COVER FOR UNBUDGETTED CURRENT EXISTENCES AND EQUIPMENT? OUR DUTY IS TO SYSTEMS TRIGGER AND PUBLIC'S TRUST. THE REDUCTION ENSURE WE ARE FUNDING AND EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT NOT JUST GROWING IT FOR GROWTH SAKE. MAHALO. MEMBERS, SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CHAIR RECOMMEND THAT BILL 22, 2026 CD1 BE AMENDED TO CD2 THAT CAREN E ISSUE COPY RATES CHANGE DESCRIBED DURING THE DISCUSSION TODAY MAKE ANY CONFORMING MISCELLANEOUS TECHNICAL AND NONSUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENTS. INCORPORATES ANY CHANGES TO TRANSFER BETWEEN FUNDS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO BALANCE REVENUES AND PROVES FOR EACH FUND. APPROPRIATIONS. NOTING RESERVATIONS TO THE AMENDED CD2, COUNCILMEMBER TULBA IS THAT CORRECT?

Testifier: FURTHER DISCUSSION OR OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS? SEEING NONE. BILL HAS BEEN AMENDED TO A CD2. CHAIR THEN RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 22, 2026, CD2, BE REPORTS THE OUT PASSAGE THIRD READING. NOTING RESERVATIONS OF COUNCILMEMBER TULBA FURTHER OBJECTIONS OR IT RESERVATIONS? HEARING NO, MA'AM E'O NONE SO ORDERED. HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. THANK YOU AM I. MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. BILL 23. APPROVING CIVIL P KA TAIL BUDGET AND PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2026. TO JUNE 30, 2027. CAPITAL BUCAP) CAPITAL BUDGET. PRESIDENT FIRST WITH IN-PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY NOT COUNCIL CHAMBER. CLERK ANY IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM? SO HE.

Council Clerk: CHAIR, WITH RUN E'O ONE STANDING BY.

Chair Okimoto: ONLINE MY HERE. MATT CARRIES. IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR BEING PATIENT. E I WOULD SAD I SAD MORGAN. PASTED THIS GOOD AFTERNOON. JAMES CAMPBELL COMPANY FOR THE RECORD. I WILL SAY. STANDING HERE TODAY ON BEHALF JAMES CAMPBELL COMPANY. AND IT STRONG SUPPORT OF IT CD1 E'O MUCH BILL 23. INCLUDING THE DELETION OF PROJECTS 201-0046. RELATING TO LAND ACQUISITION FOR NEW LANDFILL MAKAPUU HEAVE A HILLS. ADDITIONALLY, STANDING IN SUPPORT OF PROPOSED CD2 AMENDMENT ADDRESSING COUNCIL COMMUNICATION 98. WHICH DELETES PROJECT 201-7046 RELATING TO EXPANSION OF WAIMANALO GULCH. FORD ERROR, JAMES CAMPBELL COMPANY HAS BEEN STEWARD AND LANDOWNER OF THE LAND COLLOQUIALLY CALLED MAKAPUU HE WAS A HILLS 140 YEARS. WE BLEB SO DOES AS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN OVER 0 R 60 YEARS. WITH BELIEVE. PEST NEEDED TO HOUSE LEEBLG AIL FAMILIES. LANE CLOSURE AIL FAMILIES. ZONED 4200 HAWAIIAN HOMES. LOCAL FAMILIES. FOR THOSE REASONS,ER 4200 HOMES. EXCUSE ME, TOGETHER WITH RECENT MEDIA REPORTS, WE WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY. TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT. FOR OUR COUNCILMEMBERS. FOR THIS CD1 COUNCIL PASSED. AND SHARE UNAMBIGUOUS OPPOSITION TO ACQUISITION FOR MININGFUL PURPOSE WAS THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR TESTIFIER? COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU SO MUCH. FOR SURVEYING ALL DAY. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. I DO THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU STATED WHAT'S NOT VERY PROMINENT IN THE DISCUSSION LAST WEEK. THAT THAT LAST U LAND IS ZONED FOR HOUSING. IS THAT CORRECT? Testifier: YES. COUNCILMEMBER. Councilmember Tupola: LOTS OF HOUSING. DISCUSSIONS HERE AT THE COUNCIL. AND IT'S HARD SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE HOUSING HERE WE HAVE LAND THAT IS ZONED FOR HOUSING. AND THE CITY IS PROPOSING OR WAS PROPOSING TO HAVE BEEN LANDFILL. WAS THERE ANY PRIORITY DISCUSSIONS WITH CAMPBELL LAND COMPANY AND CITY ADMINISTRATION?

Testifier: WITH RESPECT TO ACQUISITION FOR LANDFILL PURPOSES, I WOULD SAY LESS OF A DISCUSSION. THAT WOULD KIND OF MISCHARACTERIZE KIND OF COMMUNICATIONS WEB HAD OF THERE WERE NOTICES THAT THIS MIGHT HAPPEN. BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THERE WAS A ACTIVE DISCUSSION. ER.

Councilmember Tupola: ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, UNFORTUNATE ONLY PLACE THAT I ACTUALLY SAW THE PRESENTATION, OF THE EXPANSION. NEVER SEEN IT IN THAT NIGHT. I ASKED IF THERE WASN'T FUNDS WOULD THEY STILL BE ABLE TO PURSUE EMINENT DOMAIN AND THEY SAID NO. SO I THINK CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, IF WE CONTINUE ALONG THIS PATH, WE CAN POSSIBLY OPEN UP DISCUSSION WITH THEM. THINK AS OF RIGHT NOW, NO FUNDING, THERE IS NO NEED NOR THE DISCUSSION. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT. I KNOW THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S A HUGE CONCERN. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS STANDING LAST WEEK AND TIF TESTIFYING COMING BACK HERE AGAIN TODAY. WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT YOU GUYS DID NOT CONCEDE TO SELLING LAND. YOU DO NOT AGREE TO SELLING LAND. YOU HAVE NOT EVER INDICATED THAT YOU WANTED LAND TO BE LANDFILL. IS THAT CORRECT?

Testifier: YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SO TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE OPPOSED TO ONE WE'RE NOT SELLING IT P AND TWO WE'RE OPPOSED TO A IN A TESTAMENT TO CONDEMN THE LAND. FOR THIS PURPOSE. Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE. Testifier: NOT A PROBABLY LEFT. THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: ANYONE ELSE HERE IN PERSON WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? ON BILL 23. REMOTE TESTIFIERS. I DO HAVE A LIST IN FRONT OF ME READ THROUGH THEM AND IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED GEORGE TANABE. TIRE ONLINE. Council Clerk: CHAIR, NOT LOGGED ON.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU WILLA TANABE. Council Clerk: CHAIR, TESTIFIER NOT LOGGED ON. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MADAME CLERK. NAOMI TAKAI. Council Clerk: CHAIR, NOT LOGGED ON. Chair Okimoto: OKAY. CAITLAND BRITAIN. Council Clerk: CHAIR, NOT LOOKED ON. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU U LOGGED ON. Chair Okimoto: KEN WOMEN'S U WILLIAMS. Council Clerk: CHAIR, TESTIFIER NOT LOLG ON. Chair Okimoto: SWEETY NELSON. Council Clerk: CHAIR, YES. TESTIFIER ONLINE LINE.

Chair Okimoto: ALOHA AND GOOD AFTERNOON. MISS NELSON. ALOHA HE CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY I KNOW. I WANT TO KEEP THIS SHORT. I DID ALREADY SUBMIT WRITTEN TESTIMONIES BUT I JUST US WANTED TO BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT SOME OF ECONOMIC IMPACTS. OF AIL SOCIAL GATHERING THE WITH LANDFILL. PROPOSED MAKAPUU EAST SHORES A HILLS. SWEETY NELSON DIRECTOR DESTINATION MARKETING HERE ON BEHALF OF KO OLINA OHANA OUR RE-EARTH SOS COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND 10,000 EMPLOYEES. MANY OF WHOM LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT BILL 23 CD1. WHICH REMOVES THE PROPOSED $30 MILLION APPROPRIATION TO ACQUIRE THE MAKAPUU EAST SHORES A HILLS PROPERTY. FOR LANDFILL EXAMPLE PACs. KO OLINA WAS EXPANSION. ENVISIONED MASTER PLAN RESORT COMMUNITY. DESIGNED TO GENERATE LONGTERM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. AND STABILITY. FOR WEST OAHU. THAT VISION HAS BEEN REALIZED THROUGH WORLD CLASS' ET CETERA. ENJOY HIGH OCCUPANCIES YEAR ROUND. INCLUDING GLOBAL MEETING DISNEY RESORT, MARRIOTT VACATION CLUB TOP PERFORMERING PROPERTY, OAHU FIRST SPORTS SEE ON FOUR SEASONS RESORTED. GOLF ARENA SIX RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. CAN I CONTINUE?

Chair Okimoto: PLEASE PROCEED.

Testifier: THIS IS RECALL SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS. SPILL AHEAD. AS A CORNERSTONE KAPOLEI CITY MASTER PLAN, KO OLINA REMAINED DEEPLY COMMITTED TO UPLIFTING WEST OAHU AND EWA COMMUNITIES. IN 20EL 20 ALONEMENT KO OLINA GENERATE THE $2.5 BILLION ANNUAL WILL I ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR IS THE IT ATE STAWED SUPPORTED MORE THAN 5300 PERMANENT JOBS. WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENTER, THAT ANNUAL I PACT IS PROIT GECKED TO REACH $9.5 BILLION. THESE REVENUES INCLUDING PROPERTY TAXES, G.E.T. AND T.A.T., DIRECTORY SUPPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION. HEALTH CARE. SOCIAL SERVICE. PUBLIC SAFETY. INFRASTRUCTURE. AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS ACROSS OAHU. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE EXPANSION OF THE WAIMANALO GULCH SANITARY LANDFILL. TO A IS GENTLEMAN ENT MAKAPUU EAST SHORES A HILLS PROPERTYINGS. EN IN SHORT. LANDFILL TALENTS SUBSTANTIAL ECONOMIC BENEFITS GENERATED BY KO OLINA. CURRENTLY IN THE FUTURE. DIMINISH APPEAL OAHU'S MOST SUCCESSFUL TRAVEL DESTINATION. OFFERS POTENTIAL INVESTORS, HOTEL BRANDS, OWNERS AN VISITORS.

Chair Okimoto: IF YOU COULD WRAP UP YOUR TESTIMONY. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL, I'M WRAPING UP DECADES PLACE DIGS R DISPROPORTIONATE ISLAND EIGHT WEST SIDE. RESPECTFULLY URGE CITY TO PRORE SUE ALTERNATIVES PROTECT COMMUNITIES AIR SHAD FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. SHARED FUTURE. Chair Okimoto: QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NO QUESTIONS, NEXT TESTIFIER THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT IMPT SEE YOU ONLINE. ALOHA GOOD AFTERNOON. IF YOU COULD UNMUTE. EL PROCEED. STATE GLAWRM FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

Testifier: I'M WITH THE HALAWA WAIALUA HISTORICAL SOCIETY. THE MAYOR WAS BEHIND SAVING ONE OF THE OLD BILLINGS THAT WERE WE'RE IN NOW. THE ORIGINAL SUGGEST SUGAR BILL OFFICE BUILDING ABANDON FOR 30 YEARS. AND IT HAS NOW BEEN PURCHASED PAY KA CUE GROUP GOING TO SAVE IT. CACAO. NEXT BUILT WE GO HAVE THREE IN TOWN NEED SAVING. NEXT ONE IS HONGWANJI. 1902 ESTABLISHED, ONE OF THE EARLIEST HANUKKAH WOGS IN THE STATE. AND HAS PERSISTED IN TODAY. COMMUNITY ACTIVE CENTER. AND RESOURCE FOR THE SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOW 1.6-ACRE SITE. THAT THE CONGREGATION HAS AGED OUT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE UP FOR SALE UNLESS SOMETHING IS DONE WITH IT. WE NEED TO ADAPT I HAVELY REUSE THE CURRENT SITE, EXCELLENT BEAUTIFUL TEMPLE. WITH UNUSUALLY ATTRACT ISSUE ARTWORK INSIDE. AND GOT A FULL PARSE AN AJ NEEDS I AM PROWVMENTS. COMMUNITY HALL AND DOWN BELOW AND KITCHEN. IMPROVEMENTS OUTDOOR TOILETS FOR THE BUN DANCES GOOD 1.6 ARAKAWA 1POINT-ACRE SITE. NEVER FLOODED MAYOR INTERESTED SEEING TO DID WE IT HAVE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WAS BURNED DOWN IN 2003. WENT INTO HOUSING. AND THIS SITE IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF PLANT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE MILL CAMP. FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING AND PRY, SR OF THE RESERVE RETIREES HOUSING FOR THE SUGAR COMPANY AS ALWAYS HONORED. SO RIGHT IN THE CENTER, OF THIS UPCOMING DEVELOPMENT, IS THIS SITE. COULD BE REPURPOSED AND USED AS HISTORICAL SITE. COMMUNITY CENTER, AND MAYOR'S BEHIND IT. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IT GETS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NO QUESTION, NEXT TESTIFIER I SEE ONLINE IS NADINE. TAKAI. DAY. ALOHA GOOD AFTERNOON.

Testifier: ALOHA. I'M TALKING IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET ITEM. REGARDING THE IMPROVEMENTS. K-MART TAKAI VETERAN MEMORIAL AQUATIC CENTER. NADINE AT THAT CAT DAY FORMALLY NADINE TAKAI SISTER THE LATE CONGRESSMAN K MARK TAKAI. CURRENTLY SERVING CHAIRPERSON OF WORLD AQUATICS MASTERS AND DEDICATED THE IT ADVOCATE OF AQUATICS FOR ALL. SWIMMING SAFES LIVES. SUPPORTING THIS MEASURE IS NOT SIMPLY INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE O, IT IS COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY. LANIKAI I SAWED BEFORE, HAWAII RANKED SECOND IN THE NATION. TO CHILDHOOD DROWNING. TO IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. STUDIES SHOW NORMAL SWIMMING LESSONS REDUCE DROWNING AMONG CHILDREN. BY 88%. V MAC IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT MULTIGENERATIONAL PROGRAM NLTD EXPAND ACCESS TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND MAYOR CAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION MULTITUDE STUDIES THAT SUPPORT AQUATIC EXERCISES TO REDUCE ANXIETY DEPRESSION AND IMPROVEMENTS MENTAL HEALTH AND COMBAT OBESITY. THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST SAFETY, HEALTH COMMUNITIEN GEANL ENRICHMENT ENGAGEMENT ECONOMIC GROWTHEL ALL THROUGH ONE PROJECT. SO I RESPECTEL STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE IN IF I EVER FAVOR OF THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MISS DAY. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NO, MA'AM THE NEXT I HAVE MARCY REEFS TESTIFIER NOT LOGGED ON.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE KEVIN NAKAMURA. s OAHU IMA GOOD AFTERNOON U MEMBERS BUDGET COMMITTEE. KEVIN NAKAMURA HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF V MAC FUNDING IN BILL 23, 26. MILL LILIUOKALANI YOU RESIDENT. VETERAN, AND PROUD PARENT OF STUDENT ATHLETE. TRAINED AND COMPETED AT THE MACC FOR OVER A DECADE. MILILANI RESIDENT. SPEND A LOT OF TIME V MAC WHAT STAND USE OUT TO ME MOST ISN'T JUST A TRAINING OR EVEN FACILITY ITSELF. RATHER THE COMMUNITY BRINGS TOGETHER. ON NEW GIVEN DAY YOU'LL SEE KEIKI, KUPUNA, COMPETITIVE SWIMMERS, WATER POLO, DIVING, FIRE RESCUE TEAMS AND EVEN OER OLYMPIC ATHLETES. ALL SHARING AN BENEFITS FOR THIS SAME SPECIAL PLACE. TRULY IS THE OAHU AND HAWAII'S PREMIERE AQUATICS CENTER. HEAVY USE TAKES ITS ATOLL AND BULK HEAD SEEKS HE HAD LIFE SPAN IN THE STARTING BLOCKS AREEL WARN. NOT JUST COSMETIC ISSUE. DIRECTLY AFFECT SAFETY OPERATIONS AND ATHLETE PERFORMANCE. WITH THIS FUNDING, AND RIGHT IMPROVEMENTS V MAC HAS POTENTIAL TO A TRACT AND HOST LARGER REASONABLE ONLD AND NATIONAL LANDFILLS IDENTITY FRAUDS BRINGING OPPORTUNITY HOME TO HAWAII SUPPORTING LOCAL FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES IN THE PROCESS. EREL VETERAN, ESPECIALLY MEANINGFUL TO ME THAT FACILITY BEARING CONGRESSMAN AT THAT CUE'S NAME ONE THAT HONORS ALL VETERANS. NATIVE HAWAIIANED WITH THE CARE, AND RESPECT DESERVES. MAHALO FOR COWER CONSIDERATION HAPPY LEI DAY.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU QUOR R R FOUR YOUR SERVICE MR. IKEANAKA MOTHER A SAY TO YOU A PREVIOUS TESTIFIER. DAUGHTER WAS HAS BEEN USER OF THE POOL HIGH SCHOOL. MILILANI. USES IT. SHE WAS AVID USE YOU EVER THE POOL AS WELL THANK YOU. USER OF POOL. NEXT MR. PETER ANDREW. I SEE MR. ANDREW ONLINE. THANK YOU.

Testifier:EL CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OLD SOME. EL FOR THE V MAC. ON ISLAND. I ACTUALLY COACH TEAM OF OLYMPIANS AT THE V MOCA. MOST INCREDIBLE FACILITY. WHY WE CHOSEN TO COME AOWL HERE. HAWAII IS SO AWESOME THAT AWESOME. STAFF THEY DO THE MOST INCREDIBLE JOBEL, WATER IS CLEAR, THAT OBVIOUSLY TAKES A LOT TO UP KEEP. I KNOW FOR US, AND WATER CANNONS, WE SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT HOW DO YOU COOL THE WATER. WHEN YOU WENT INMENT PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES TO COME OUT, WATER GETS HOT, THE KIND OFEL -- TRAIN. THEY HAD WHAT DO THEY CALL IT, VANDALISM THROUGH THE SUMMER AND PEOPLE JUMPED FENCE AND NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THE V MAC. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY FOR US TRAINED AWE YOU ALL OVER THE WORLD AND THIS POOL IS REALLY SPECIAL. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. ANDREW. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TESTIFIER? SEEING NONE. ANYONE ELSE ONLINE LIKE TO TESTIFIER ON BILL 23? Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO FURTHER IN PERSON OR REMOTE TESTIFIERS. WE'LL NOW PROCEED WITH ADMINISTRATION I BELIEVE DIRECTOR KAWANO HERE? DIRECTOR KAWANO DID YOU WANT TO SAY GIVE ANY REMARKS BEFORE WE GO INTO THE DIDN'T WORK SHEETS? DIDN'T WORK SHEETS? DEPARTMENTS WORKSHEETS ANDREW KAWANO BFS BFS HERE FOR QUESTIONS WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR PUTTING IN SOME OF THE WE'VE HAD A JUSTMENTS AND SOME ADDS TO THIS CIP. ADJUSTMENTS AND WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE APPRECIATE THEY'RE IN THERE NOW. WE'RE HE WE'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SO WE'LL STAND BY. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. KAWANO. MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR AT THIS TIME IN IF NOT WE'LL PROCEED WHEN YOU THINK DDC UP NEXT ON OUR WORKSHEETS. MEMBERS NOW BEGIN REVIEW OF CIP BUDGET ON PAGES 1 THROUGH R5. AND PAGES 99 THROUGH 1 GENERAL GOVERNMENT PUBLIC SAFETY HIGHWAYS AND STRESS AND ANXIETY AND CULTURE RECREATION DEPARTMENT OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. ON PAGE 3, ISLANDWIDE RESILIENT EMERGENCY SHELTER INITIATIVE WILL BE MOVED. FROM DEM TO D DC AND ON PAGE 4, EMERGENCY AND ROUTINE STREET RESURFACING PALOLO WILL BE RETITLE AND MOVED FROM AGAIN DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE TO DEPARTMENT OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. WITH US WE DO HAVE TREBLGHTER HAKU MILLES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. DIRECTOR GAVMENT. MISSES DEPARTMENT DEAN EUR DESIGN EURP DESIGNED AN COIN INSTRUCTION. HAPPY TO DISCUSS EACH OF THOSE. OVERALL, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. JUST WANTED TO KIND OF ARER, REITERATE THAT WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION. ON PRIORITIES. WORK VERY CLOSELY PLEASE WITH OUR CLIENT AGENCIES OWNER, AND OPERATORS. OF THESE CITY FACILITIES. AND A INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT WE PROVIDE NECESSARY SUPPORT TO THE ADMINISTRATION. AS WE WORK THROUGH THOSE PRIORITIES. IF WE WHO CAN MOVE APPRECIATE THE 1.5 MILLION FOR THE STREAM STUDY DMAWR COUNCILMEMBER WEYER DISCUSS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE ARMY CORPS. ERR TRANSITIONING FROM THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE WORK THROUGH CAP PROGRAM, AND TRANSITIONING TO A GI PROGRAM.

THAT IS WHY WE REQUESTED IT AND WHY THAT'S IN IN THERE HAPPY TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR MILLES. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR OF DDC? THANK YOU. Testifier: THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO DDC AS LISTED ON PAGES IS THROUGH 5 AND PAGES 9 THROUGH 11. MOVING BACK TO PAGE 1. ON THE TOP OF PAGE , GIN GOVERNMENT HUMAN SERVICES DPP OF HOUSE AND LAND MANAGEMENT. GENERAL GOVERNMENT. INOUYE DIRECTOR KEVIN AUGER IS NOT HERE. DEPUTY DIRECTOR HERE EARLIER I DON'T SEE. SOMEBODY HERE FROM DHLM. OKAY END PRINTING DISCUSSION. ON DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND LAND MANAGEMENT. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS TO DHLM LISTED ON PAGE 1. AND PAGE 9. CHAIR, PAGE 1, WHICH ONE IS DHLM?

Councilmember Tupola: I SEE. IT WAS THE. Chair Okimoto: JAMES. QUEEN THEATER. PAGE 1 AND YOU SAID PAGE 9. Chair Okimoto: CORRECT.

OKAY. GOT IT. GO BACK TO DISCUSS. AFFORDABLE HOUSING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. TOP MUCH PAGE THE. NO SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR PAGE 99. OR IS THIS IWILEI? TRYING TO LOOK AT. DO-O DOES IT HAVE SPECIFIC LOCATION. ON HERE. ADMINISTRATIVE ASK. THAT ONE IS THE 80 MILLION, RIGHT? ER 80 MILLION. I HAD A PROPOSED TO TAKE OUT 200,000 BUT IT IS 8 MILLION. THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR THIS. I DON'T SEE. ADMINISTRATIVE ASK. NOBODY HERE IS FROM THE DEPARTMENT. UNLESS THEY WALK IN. OKAY. OKAY. I GUESS MAYBE AT AN DIFFERENT TIME WE CAN ASK WHERE SPECIFICALLY THAT IS GOING TO GO. THANK YOU CHAIR.

THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR DEPARTMENT OF HOUSE AND LAND MANAGEMENT? OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. THE CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO LIST IT'S PAGE 1 AND PAGE THE 9. THANK YOU FOR GOING BACK AND FORTH. KEEP DPP DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER. BACK TO PAGE 2. PUBLIC SAFETY. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IT SERVICES.

I SAW WE DO HAVE DIRECTOR ROGER MORTON FROM DTS. GOOD AFTERNOON DIRECTOR MORTON. FORT SHAFTER FLAPS CHAIR. MEMBERS. ROGER MORTON DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. TWO PROGRAMS OF OURS ARE INCLUDED IN HERE. ONE IS INSTALLATION OF TRACK ENGINEERING DEVICES VARIOUS LOCATION. TRACK ENGINEERING. TYPICALLY LOCALLY FUNDED PROGRAM -- TRAFFIC) LOTS OF SPEED CONTROL TYPE OF, THINGS. PRIMARILY IN THIS ONE, FAIRLY SMALL CAPITAL TYPISM PROIVMENTS. TYPE IMPROVEMENTS. IN THIS, PARTICULAR ONE, I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE PRY PROA RACE OWE GOING ON TO SORTED OF INNED KA IT WHAT I ONE US. PROVISO. WE'LL ACCEPT THAT WE DON'T LIKE PROVISO IN THAT WAY BUT WHILE, DO WHAT WE CANMENT HAVE A COMPLICATE THE PROGRAM WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT SOURCES OF MONEY. THIS IS NO AT I MONEY ISSUE. THIS IS JUST ADDING THAT. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES. FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BARE R VARIOUS LOCATIONS, ITEM, PARDON ME. FIRST ONE IS $100,000 AD. RESPECTEDFULLY I THINK WE WOULD DECLINE THAT. IF WE COULD. BUT ON THE SECOND ONE, IT WAS AS I WAS SAWING, ADDED TRAFFIC SIGNALS VARIOUS LOCATIONS. WE THINK WE HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDING. AS IS. IN THAT ONE. PRIMARILY, WE USE FEDERAL FUNDS FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MEMBERS QUESTIONS FOR DTS DIRECTOR? OKAY. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR MORTON. SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. FOR DTS. CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS TO DTS LISTED ON PAGE 2. MOVING TO PAGE 6. HIGHWAYS AND STREETS. DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE. DIRECTOR ALBANO HERE OR SOMEBODY FROMEL REPRESENTATIVE FROM DM DFM? SEL.

Testifier: NO. OKAY. MEMBERS WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENTS TO DFM'S DEPARTMENT? CIP? NO. OKAY. CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO DFM LISTED ON PAGE 6. ON PAGE 7, SANITATION DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. I DID SEE WITH US DIRECTOR ROGER BABCOCK. ALOHA GOOD AFTERNOON DIRECTOR BABCOCK.

Testifier: GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIR, BOARDMEMBERS. COUNCILMEMBERS. ORIGINAL BABCOCK, DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. ROROGER BABCOCK. THERE ARE COUPLE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED ALREADY. THAT I NEED WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT. AND THAT HAS TO WITH WAIMANALO GULCH SANITARY LANDFILL. AS WE ALL KNOW, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. FOR THE CITY'S LANDFILL. WE ARE CURRENT PERMIT SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO CLOSE IN MARCH, OF 2028. AND NO LONGER ACCEPT WASTE AT THAT FACILITY. SO WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN. TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S ESSENTIAL FOR HEALTH AND SANITATION OF THE OUR MILLION RESIDENTS ON THIS ISLAND. SO WE DO NEED TO HAVE FUNDING RESTORED BOTH FOR 30 MILLION FOR PURCHASE OF LAND, KNOWN AS MAKAIWA HILLS, AS WELL AS MONEY HERE ON PAGE 7. FOR THE EXPANSION. WE WILL RUN OUT SPACE AT WAIMANALO BUNCH IN 2031. OR SOONER. AND WE WILL NEED TIME TO OPEN A NEW LANDFILL. THE PIM WILL BE HEARD HATER THIS MONTH. AND PLANNING AND ZONING ON THE 21ST. WE SHOW TIMELINE IN THAT PIM. TO OPEN A NEW LANDFILL BY 2033. THE ALREADY A GAP BETWEEN WHEN WE RAN RUM OUT OF SPAS AND AT THE CURRENT LANDFILL AND WHEN WE COULD POSSIBLY OPEN A NEW

LANDFILL. DELAYING THE PROCESS OF BEGINNING TO TAKE POSITIVE STEPS FORWARD. TO OBTAIN NEW LANDFILL SITE. AMEN MEANING EVERYBODY PRINTING LAND, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OTHER STEPS THAT ARE INVOLVED AND THAT IS THE FIRST STEP THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. POTENTIALLY DELAYING THAT BY A YEAR, TO LAYS EVERYTHING. BY A YEAR. DELAYS EVERYTHING BY A YEAR OR MORE. ER THE SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS PLAN. TO MOVE FORWARD. IT FOR THE NEXT LANDFILL. AS WE'VE SAWED, CURRENTLY, THERE ARE NO OTHER LEGAL OPTIONS FOR THE LOCATION OF THE NEXT LANDFILL. ON THE ISLAND. THAT ARE NOT FEDERAL LANDS. OTHER THAN MAKAIWA HILLS. THAT IS THE CURRENT SITUATION. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BEGIN THIS NEXT STEM. OF MOVING FORWARD. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I BROUGHT THIS ALONG. AND IN HONOR OF CHAIR WATERS. BROUGHT SOME RECENTLY TO ANOTHER MEETING. IT IS ABOUT THIS EVERYBODY HAS THESE. YOU KNOW, YOU FILL THEM UP. AND WE PICK THEN UP. AND SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN. TO THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF IT. 2200 TONS A DAY. YOU SEEN PICTURES. WHAT LOOK LIKELIHOOD LIKE LOOKED LIKE AT CORP FROM DISASTER DEBRIS. JUST ABOUT ONE DAY WORTH OF WHAT WE TAKE CARE OF. EVERY DAY. OF THE YEAR.

SO WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT. UTILIZE SIDE IF I MAKE THIS THING STAY HERE. I'LL SEE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU DIRECTOR BABCOCK WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA.

Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU. FOR HE CAN HERE. NORTH AFRICA THANK YOU TO MY COUNCILMEMBERS SUPPORTING, THE DELETION OF ACQUISITION OF LAND. CAUSING QUITE A BIT OF A COST IN MY COMMUNITY. A CAIN OSBORNE WELL AWARE IT WAS GOING FOR CAUSE THIS. WE KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, CHAOS AND, AND WITH ALL THE YEARS THAT PASSED BY, THE PHRASE WAS SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND OVER AGAIN. IT WILL THEY EVER EVER NEVER BE WEST SIDE AND HERE WITH ARE. RESPECTFULLY, THE PATH THAT ARE PAVED WAS PAID BY THE ADMINISTRATION. NOT BY THE DOWN COUNCIL AS FAR AS YOUR EFFORTS TO GET THE LAND FILL SITED. I'M INTO THE SIDE R SAYING IT'S EASY. I DON'T WANT TO DOWNPLAY THAT. I WILL SAY THAT CUP A HE KAPOLEI NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD FIRST TIME EVER SAW A PRESENTATION OF WHAT EXPANSION WOULD LOOK LIKE. OR WHERE YOU GUYS PROPOSING IT, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED WAS WHERE IS THE TECHNICAL REPORT THAT VERIFIES THAT THIS IS THE ONLY LOCATION AND WHY THIS WAS THE BEST PATH TO TWO. BECAUSE IF THERE WAS OTHER LOCATIONS, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WAIPIO PE PENINSULA WE HEARD IN THE NEWS WAS BEING NEGOTIATE THE THROUGH THE NAVY, OR MAYBE WAHIAWA, THIS IS STILL THE ABILITY TO CANCEL LEGISLATURE TO AMEND ACT 73 BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO TECHNICAL REPORTS. SUBMITTED AS TO WHERE IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO LOOK AT THE AMENDMENTS. SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE DID THAT. BECAUSE ALL THE STATE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES AT THE MEETING. SAYING WE WERE NEVER ASKED TO AMEND THE ACT. BUT THEN IN THE STATE OF CITY, THE MAYOR SAID, THAT THEY'RE PLEADING FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW YOU GUYS FOR UNTIE YOUR HARPEDS SO EITHER WE ARE OR AREN'T PROPOSING TO AMEND ACT 73. UNFEW YOUR HAND. FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN SAWED, BUT NO TECH NEW CAL REPORT HAS

BEEN SUBMITTED TO THEM SUGGESTINGEL XY DISMPLET AMENDMENT IT'S NEED TO BE DONE AT WHICH POINT THEY WOULD HAVE THRIB RATE SENATE AND HOUSE WOULD HAVE DELIBERATE ON ANY POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS. LET ME JUST, PAUSE THERE AND LET YOU ANSWER ONE, ARE THERE ANY EFFORTS TO AMEND THE ACT AND HAVE HAS IT ADMINISTRATION TAKEN THOSE STEPS?

Testifier: SO THE LEGISLATURE KNOWS AND WE'VE TOLD THEM, THAT THEY COULD MANDATE OR RESCIND ACT 73 OR ACTED 255. WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO TELL THEM. HOW. OR WHEN. OR ANYTHING. IT'S SIMPLE. ACT 250 5* 5 ELIMINATED WAHIAWA SITE. WHERE WE HAD SAID WE AND I UP INTEND TO PUT THE NEXT LANDFILL. IF YOU RESCIND THAT LAW, -- 255, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT WE'LL PUT IT THERE. WE MADE THAT CLEAR. WE HAVE PUBLISH AND STUDIES ON WEBSITE. TECHNICAL REPORT. THAT SAYS WHAT WITH O HAPPEN IF ACT 73 WAS RESCINDED OR AMENDED. OKAY. GOOD TO KNOW. CLEAR. DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ANY INSTRUCTIONS. JUST RESCIND. AND WE'LL PUT IT THERE.

THERE WAS A FORMULA LETTER SENT OUT TO THE LEGISLATURE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANY. OR IS THERE A SPECIFIC LEGISLATURE THAT WAS ASKED TOEN I I INTRODUCE? NOT THAT YOU KNOW. DIDN'T SENT A LETTER REQUESTING ANYTHING. WE HAVE SAID THAT THE LEGISLATION PASSED HAS ELIMINATE IT'S THE SITES WE HAVE CHOSEN AND THAT IF THE LEGISLATION WAS CHANGED, WE WOULD GO BACK TO WHERE WE SAID WE WANTED TO GO.

Councilmember Tupola: OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THIS OUT HERE. ALL OF THE LEGISLATORS THAT WERE IN THE MEETING LAST WEEK SPECIFICALLY SAID GO AHEAD AND ASK EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO BE DONE, NONE. LEGISLATORS IN ANY AREA WERE ASKED. NONE OF THEM. NOT TRYING TO PARTICULAR, JUST TRYING TO SAY IF WE'RE NOT SPECIFIC, IF NOT HAVE NOT GIVEN A BILL TO SOMEONE AND SAID, PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS, ON OUR BEHALF, IT'S WHAT THE CITY HAS TO BE MANY TIMES, HERE LEGISLATION. PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ON OUR BEHALF. THAT IS IT THE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. SECONDLY, THIS ADMINISTRATION WENT FORWARD TO ASK FOR EXTENSION OF THE PERMIT AT ONE R WAIMANALO GULCH. IS THAT CORRECT? TO THE LAND LAND USE COMMISSIO.

Testifier: NO. NOT YET. SO CURRENTLY, THE ONLY EXTENSION WE ASKED FOR WAS TO NAME THE NEXT LANDFILL WHICH HAD DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 31. 2022. WHICH ASKED FOR TWO YEAR EXTENSION OF THAT. TO DECEMBER OF 2025 U 24. THAT WAS GRANTED AND IN DECEMBER OF 2024, WE DID FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS AND IDENTIFY THE NEXT LANDFILL. AS ONE NEAR WAHIAWA. THE OTHER DEADLINE THAT IS IN THE CURRENT PERMIT, IS MARCH 2028 FOR CLOSURE. WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR A EXTENSION OF THAT YET. THAT WILL BE NECESSARY. BUT WHICH WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET AN EXTENSION UNLESS WE HAVE A PLAN THEY WILL NOT GIVE US UNDIFFICULTY EXTENSION. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CONCRETE VIABLE PLAN FOR WAIL WE'RE GOING TO DO BEFORE WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPEAR. OTHERWISE, THEY WILL NOT GIVE US ANYTHING. EL A TUPOLA FOR CLARIFIES LAST WEEK IN THE MEETING YOU SAID THERE WAS NO TECHNICAL PLAN GENERATED HOW MAKAPUU HE WAS A HILLS WAS CHOSEN. IS THAT CORRECT?

Testifier: MAKAIWA HILLS HAS BEEN R EVALUATED IN THE PAST, AS A SITE. ONCE IDENTIFIED A AS TOP CHOICE THAT ONE POINT, 20 PLUS YEARS AGO. AND SO IT WAS ALWAYS A AVAILABLE SITE. IT'S ON ALL THE PREVIOUS REPORTS. IN THERE. TUPOLA NO TECH REPORT AS OF RECENT?

Testifier: NOTHING RECENTLY. SO BECAUSE THE INTENTION WAS NOT TO P PUT IT THERE, THE INTENTION WAS TO PUT DID NOT ON THE WEST SIDE, SO THE CHOICES WERE TO PUT IT IN WAHIAWA. ALSO TRIED TO PUT IT ON THE WAIPIO PENCE INLA. THOSE TWO SITES WERE MADE UNAVAILABLE. PENINSULA AND WHEN THE WAHIAWA SITE, WAS IDENTIFIED, AS THE CHOICE, IT SHOWED PATH, THREE PART PATHWAY FIRST,EL MAKAIWA HILLS, SORE U FIRST, WAHIAWA, SECOND, POTENTIALLY ANOTHER SITE. IF ACT 73 WAS AMENDED. AND THEN IF NONE OF THAT AND A HAVE TO SAY ON THE WEST SIDE. TUPOLA TEAHUPO'O NO EFFECT REPORT AS OF RAYA SENT FOR MAKAPUU HE WAS A HILLS. NO TECHNICAL REPORT, MAKAPUU HE WAS A HILLS NOT ON THE LIST THEY WERE CONSIDERING. ONE THAT THEY SUGGESTED NO SITES.

Testifier: ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. EL IT WAS ONE THAT WE ASKED OUR LANDFILL ADVISORY COMMIT TO EVALUATE. BECAUSE THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS TASKED WITH LOOKING AT SITES ONLY SITES THAT WERE NOT ON THE WEST SIDE. THAT'S CORRECT.

Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU THANK YOU BUDGET CHAIR FOR ALLOWING ME THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING. THANK YOU DIRECTOR BABCOCK FOR COMING TOO THE MEETING. I DO HIGHLY ENCOURAGE ADMINISTRATION TO PURSUE THE CORRECT STIPS WITH THE LEGISLATURE NOT ASSUME GIVER YOU A BILL TO SOME LEGISLATOR, ASK THEM TO INTREE DOS IT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU TWICE WANT. UNREDUCE IT. FULL RAYA SENDING ANY BILL IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. RESENATEING. VERY ARTICULATED PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE LAW. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO REPEAL THE WHOLE LAW. IF THAT'S THE CASE, TECHNICAL REPORT SUGGESTING WHICH IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE MEETING KAPAA QUARRY WHEREVER IT IS, NEED TO BE SPECIFICITY GIVEN BECAUSE THINK WON'T REPEAL THE WHOLE LAW. THEY'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY TRY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN. BUT IF WAS SAID THAT NOT THE WEST SIDE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, AND I FOR NOT APPROVE OUR SUPPORT ANY FUNDING OF ACQUISITION OF LAND THERE, TO GO BACK ON WHAT WAS THE SAID TO THE PEOPLE, IT JUST CAN'T HAPPEN. THIS WILL CREATE CHAOS IN MY COMMUNITY. AND IT WILL NEVER INNED. SO I DO SUGGEST TO THIS COUNCIL TO THIS BODY YOU WE HEAVILY PURSUE THE SOLUTIONS TOWARD ACQUIRING PROPERTY NEXT HPOWER. EXPANDINGELEL RECYCLING FACILITY, TO ELONGATE LIFE OF OUR BURNER, TO TRY TO RFP OUT THE MATERIALS THAT COME OUT OF HPOWER, SO WE DO NOT NEED LANDFILL DEPEND DINE-INCY OR YOU GUYS PURSUE ACT 73 AMENDMENTS. DEPENDCY, ONLY PACTS FORWARD. SERIOUS ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE PATH IT'S THANK YOU DIRECTOR. THANK YOU CHAIR.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. MEMBERS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? FOR DIRECTOR BABCOCK? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION SERPINGS AMENDMENTS TO LERVEL E&V ON PAG. DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY SERVICES. HAVE I ON MY LIST DIRECTOR ANTON KRUCKY. DEPUTY DIRECTORRER BLAWNS WAS HERE EARLIER I DON'T SEE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT. SEEING NO LONG BEACH STATE R REPRESENTATIVE MEMBERS IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON DCS -- IT LAS BANOS) OKAY. SEE NOTHING DISCUSSION. CHAIR WILL BE ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS TO DCS LISTED ON PAGE 8. PAGE 11 PROVISOS. WORKSHEETS PAGES 12 THROUGH 16, I BELIEVE WE HAVE DIRECTOR KAWANO HERE. DID YOU WANT TO GIVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PROVISOS? URNTLE NL I ANDREW KAWANO DIRECTOR BFS BFS. I DON'T HAVE COMMENT IT'S. I WILL HANG AROUND FOR QUESTIONINGS. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR KAWANO? SEEING NO QUESTIONS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION CHAIR WILL SHALL ACCEPTING AMENDMENT TO THE PROVICE A LOCATED ON BOTTOM PAGE 11. ATTACHED TO AS PAGES 12 THROUGH 16. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON BILL 23? 2026? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THIS CONCLUDES DISCUSSION URBAN DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION ON BILL. EL CD1, CHAIR RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 23, 2026, CD1 BE AMEND TO A CD2. THAT INCORPORATES CHANGES DESCRIBED DURING THE DISCUSSION TODAY. AND MAKES ANY CON FORUMMING TECHNICAL MISCELLANEOUS NONSUBSTANTIVE AGREEMENTS AMENDMENTS THAT MAY BE NECESSARY. CON FORUMMING. FURTHER DISCUSSION? CONFORMING. ANY OBJECTIONS? RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE. BILL HAS BEEN AMEND TO A CD2. CHAIR THEN RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 23, 2026, CD2, BE REPORT ODD PASSAGE THIRD READING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS RESERVATIONS? HEARING KNOWLEDGE THE SO ORDERED. THANK YOU MEMBERS. HARLINGEN NO. JND ITEM NUMBER 3. BILL 26, 2026. APPROVING HONOLULU AUTHORITY FOR RAPID TRANSPORTATION OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 20 2-6Z, TO JUNE 30, 2027. BEFORE WE BRING UP ADMINISTRATION, PROCEED FIRST WITH IN-PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY PERSON TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM?

Testifier: THAT ARE R THERE ARE NONE. Chair Okimoto: PROCEEDING NOW WITH REMOTE TESTIMONY. CLERK ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM? Testifier: NONE.

THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER TESTIMONY, I DO HAVE ON MY AGENDA,ER OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FROM HART OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR O'KEEFE. OKAY. ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY. MEMBERS WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CHAIR RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 26, 2026, BE REPORTED OUT PASSAGE THIRD READING. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS. RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. BILL 27, 2026. AFTER PROINGER HONOLULU AUTHORITY FOR RAPID TRANSPORTATION CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2026 TO JUNE 30, 2027. BEFORE WE BRING UP ADMINISTRATION. IN PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. CLERK ANY IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM?

Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. PROCEEDING WITH REMOTE TESTIMONY. ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM. Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU I DON'T SEE ANYBODY HERE. MEMBERS WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. THE CHAIR RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 27, 2026, BE REPORTED OUT PASSAGE ON THIRD READING. ANY DISCUSSION? OBJECTIONS? RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. BILL 24, 2026, AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE AND SALE OF GENERAL BOND OBLIGATIONS GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AND BOND AUNTIES TAKES NOTES CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU IN MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT EQUAL TO AGGREGATE OF AMOUNT APPROPRIATED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET ORDINANCE OF SAID CITY & COUNTY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30, 2027, AND SPECIFIED IN SET ORDINANCE TO BE FINANCED FROM THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE OF SUCH BONDS AND TO BE EKED PENNED FROM THE GENERAL IMPROVEMENT BOND FUND. OHA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT BOND FUND, SOLID WASTE IMPROVEMENT BOND FUND, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SPECIAL FUND, OR TAXABLE GENERAL IMPROVEMENT BOND FUND. BEFORE WE BRING UP THE INSTALLATION, WE'LL PROCEED FIRST WITH IN-PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. CLERK ANY IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM?

Chair Okimoto: THERE ARE NORTHERN REMOTE TESTIMONY. ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM? Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. WITH US TODAY WE HAVE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION DIRECTOR ANDY KAWANO FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF BFS BFS. ALOHA GOOD AFTERNOON. DIRECTOR KAWANO. BFS BFS. Testifier: ONES DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES. HONORABLE COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR, ALLOWING US TO ASK FOR YOUR THE AUTHORITY TO SELL BONDS. THIS YEAR. I HAVE NO COMMENTS NO QUESTIONS BUT WE'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS IF ANY. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? FOR DIRECTOR KAWANO? SEEING NONE. MEMBERS WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CHAIR RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 24, 2026 BE REPORTED OUT PASSAGE THIRD READING. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. JND ITEM NUMBER 6. BILL 28, 2026. CD1. AFTER PROBING LEGISLATIVE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YOU'RE JULY 1, 2026 TO JUNE 30, 2027. BEFORE WHICH BRING UP ADMINISTRATION, WE WILL WOULD LIKE TO FIRST PROCEED WITH IN-PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. CLERK ANY IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM? Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. PROCEEDING NOW WITH REMOTE TESTIMONY. CLERK ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM? Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU. SEEING NO TESTIMONY. MEMBERS WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CHAIR RECOMMEND THAT IS BILL 2028, 2026 CD1 BE REPORTED OUT PASSAGE THIRD READING. ANY DISCUSSION IT, ANY OBJECTIONS? ANY RESERVATIONS IS THIS HEARING NONE SORBED. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER P. RESOLUTION 6-62. 7 DETERMINING IT THE RESPECTIVE TAX RATES AT WHICH REAL PROPERTY AND VARIOUS GREN HE GENERAL CLASSES IN CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU SHALL BE TAXED FOR 1 240UDZ OF ASSESSED VALUE FOR THE FISCAL KA YEAR JULY 1, 2026 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2027. TAXED VALUE. BEFORE I BRING UP ADMINISTRATION PROCEED FIRST ABOUT R WITH IN-PERSON ORAL TESTIMONY THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER. ANY IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM.

Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU PROCEEDING THOU WITH REMOTE TESTIMONY. ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS FOR THIS ITEM. Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. Chair Okimoto: WELCOME AGAIN TO THE PODIUM MUCH HERE WITH US DIRECTOR ANDREW KAWANO FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES. Testifier: ANDREW KAWANO AGAIN. DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND FISCAL SERVICES. I HAVE NO COMMENT. OR CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THE BILL. THANK YOU.

Chair Okimoto: THANK YOU MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU DIRECTOR KAWANO. MEMBERS WE ARE IN DISCUSSION. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CHAIR RECOMMEND THAT RESOLUTION 26-62 BE REPORTED OUT FOR ADOPTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ANY OBJECTIONS? OR READ? HEARING NONE. SO ORDERED. MEMBERS BRING US TO THE END OF THE OUR AGENDA TODAY. MAHALO EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING. AND FOR YOUR INPUT. PARTICIPATION IN TO DO TODAY'S MEETING THANK FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT OMPLET C SMPLETD. ALL OF YOUR OFFICES PUT INTO GETTING THUS FAR ABOUT THE CD2 OF BUDGET. OCS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OR BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

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