City Plan Commission and/or Board of Zoning Appeals - Regular Meeting

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All right. Well, you're about to be on recorded ready. Call the Rome city plan commission 15 2016 at 6:31 p.m. Joe Bertels Kurt Klein Brent Lighter Steven Cole Kelly Morris Lebrer I'm here and Bart here

we have a quorum agenda There you go. There's not enough is a motion to keep retain what we have since we're the only ones that show up.

Look at him. He's supporting you. Yeah, change it. Okay. Did we get a second on that?

You're brave. I guess the name is about you the owner. I am. you have the floor so you can stand that wherever you come.

Um, yes, I recently purchased the property 900 and Sour Drive at 7.4 four acres that I wanted to break into uh pullbar lots, keep the front two out on 900 as 2 acres a piece for uh residential house if we were to sell and put two residential houses there. Is that two acres? Yep, they're each two acres. Um, you should have a drawing that just came from from Josh this morning.

No, I just get approval to break that up. Give the people on drive a chance for put full barns across from their property. So lot three, four, five, and six will be full bar. Um four, five, and six. Lot three, the full barn would actually drive up in the woods more spot there. Yes. Yes, ma'am. Be up in the woods.

Yes. And then probably and then maybe a pull barn inside too.

Yeah. And I do have verbal commitments to to purchase on from the neighbors there on Hilltop. So they don't have to be a full acre because it's a accessory lot only. Well, if they're not putting sewer in it, I think under sink

10,000 square feet with sewer says without sewer, it's two. So, we might need a variance on that. But if we approve accessory lots, I don't know. How's that work, Dustin? smaller. Yeah, might have to just run through the variance along with the subdivision, right? Yeah, it says two acres. There's no sewer because it's not showing and it didn't say anything about sewer connection. So I'm assuming

will there be no water in these? Well, put a well in and then the ones that are here that are buying on it would be connected to their property basically.

I'm not understanding what you're saying, Jeff. So these guys here that already own That would be buying the bonds. Um it would be an extension of their own. So that you mean they'll be tied together commitment to combine them once they're purchased. Yeah, we can do that. But she was talking about water. So yeah, I know everybody tied together then too.

But if you don't have anywhere for the water to go I I don't know. I mean, I haven't really looked into it, but I would say that that's a force man possibly running through there because it runs through over to

Norine and everybody has grinders where it pumps up into the forest vein. So, if they're going to connect in, they'd have to have a station of some sort to connect into the force vein. So if that then it should probably be designed within the subdivision as to how that sewer is going to be connected because you don't want

six individual people coming in saying I want to connect a sewer and no plans on how to do that with talking to Joe or Josh and those would be if they were to build that he made those two acres, right? But that that's creates an issue also because if it's within the city limits of the town, which it is, then it has to be connected to sewer or you have to ask for a variance because that is in the city limits. That's Indiana.

Yeah, that's the other issue too. If it's within so many feet of the sewer line, then they have to connect in know how close it is through there. Because there isn't a line that runs on 900 and there isn't a line that runs on sour runs down

the course main goes. So, I mean that's something an engineer would have to look at to see how they can connect it in and if they would I mean they're going to need a station at a minimum. If you do a lift station, you could put everybody into the lift or each individual place could have their own grinder, but that all would have to be designed. by the engineer.

And then I gave everybody copies of these kind of shows where that line would be in relationship to where the woods is. And this kind of shows the topography of the lots. So, um drainage could be issue depending on how much they take off of there. And there is one low spot that probably needs to be preserved on lot three because it's probably an existing area that

Yeah. takes takes water. Yeah. Right.

That's already It's already there. Do you have locations of where you would want the driveways to go? Because we'd probably want to know that.

Well, three you said would be on sours, so that would be fine. Think everybody's here other than Mark from lap six. They're here.

Then you're you're talking about making these accessory only lots. So, are you planning on doing any kind of restrictions on those buildings? size and then five for variance because I know a few few of them wanted bigger than what said ordinances 30 by 40. They were going to look on, you know, adding a little bit to that to upsize them, but they would still fall within standard size with the lot having setbacks and that they will still fit inside the lot if they

What about exterior building exteriors? You're going to try to do a restriction on that right there.

Have security lights but motion motion control security lights. Big street lights out there. Light pollution. you know, no storage, you know, one one outside or one trailer, whatever outside the barn that we built. No, no rental property. No business operation. Trailer, whatever. living. No living.

Yeah. Then each barn could be responsible for their own sewer septic. They can't do septic on it, but they were tapped if we're going to get sewer. Only one item can be stored outside the barn at any given time. wooded lots going their barn side bus 15% max the wooded lots which would be 34 and six clear enough wood to put the barn plus 15% and I'd operate a business out of the barn, not rent the barn for, you know, somebody other than their use. No living spaces. Um, we wouldn't, the only one that would have the only that would have a county road cut in for a driveway be lot one because they couldn't get into it any other way. Lock two would come in Sour Drive. lot three would come with sour drive as well. Um color would probably be color match whatever their houses. No outside animals no chickens, goats, horses, none of that. No no high intensity lights. the low voltage exterior for security and motion lights and drainage that's got enough fall in that property especially coming out the woods. It all either drains down to that low spot in lot that you saw or it drains to the

front side of lot two at the very front that low spot would remain as a catch in the front. Yeah. And that that's all all s. So we have the seven years we've been there, I've never once seen water. But you're not. No. Gosh, no. I like the wood.

Yeah. The only way you play mode out is I had to sell it all off as one and then someone probably wanted to build up on top of that. restrooms or they want that.

I mean, if they want restrooms, then we have to have some kind of a design on sewer. And then because there lots denoted as accessory lots on here, we don't allow restrooms. So we're setting ourselves up for variances right there. We don't allow except by variance. So I mean it can be done. I'm just letting you know what

to get it split. They didn't display all but the buyers have to know that they can't have restrooms currently unless they not a variance and they're restricted to a 30 by 40 building unless they get a variance because that's what the code says and I don't see anything wrong with the way it's designed. So

yeah, you put a lot of thought into it. Yeah, I'm glad to hear that. No, because it's just a sketch plan. That'll be at the next meeting. That'll be the hearing of meeting. He just didn't want to go through the process of hiring a surveyor and then find out that we didn't like what you know.

So, everybody okay with the design that he's got here so far? I mean, it could change a little driveway on there or Yeah. or at least we need to know where it's at so that it can't be changed.

One name I talked at the county said that shouldn't be a problem at all. No, that one's it was lot two that might have had an issue. back. 5 to where that would be offset from the trailer park that

you don't have any other questions. on that. Well, I guess the one question I would have is before I get it all surveyed and have Josh is how do I get approval before I pay all that? Well, we can't give you approval because this isn't a public hearing, right? So, all we can say is that the design you presented looks good. So, I mean, it's meeting all of you know, question

that would be next month if we get the plan stuff that you hadn't considered. Yeah, I'll redesign or do something differently because of what they're saying or not. So, and only because this is my first time doing this. You did a fine job for the first time. So February 15th we open to the public have a different a drawing with driveways on it.

What do I need for the February 15th? It'll be the 19th. But in order to make that meeting, I need the plat by the 19th, which I don't know if Josh turned that around that quick. 19th of this month

and notified to the neighbors. She has to notify all the neighbors. I'll call Josh. Yeah. I don't know that. If not there has to be less like Monday. Where the hell is No, we'll be here. We don't get it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And then sewer, if you're planning on if these people are wanting sewer, there's going to have to be some kind of a sewer design. Um, I don't know has to necessarily be on the preliminary plat, but we'd like to know kind of where it would be located. And if you were going to be doing grinders or lifts, the final design on that would come at um the secondary plat. I don't have any old business or miss. No miscellaneous business. Next meeting February 19th, 6:30 p.m. Well, we have other plans for the next one.

I have a subdivision already. Make a motion we adjourn this meeting. Thank you.

Yeah. out in the back field. We were Oh, shoot. Put those agendas out. Well, I guess there's gems here.

I already tell you my Yeah, New York for like nine months. Yeah, it took a couple years before

I was Yes, I need to have a I don't think the uh recorder's working as far as it's blank. Look,

it was before I put the live stream. So, it's it's still recording because I'm not going to shut it off and then turn it back on for the seven.

This needs to be You do? Well, some people don't keep them. And well, I mean, this has some information for you on what site buildings are.

Well, if you have the other one go, you might they might have to share. I never know what I do. You know, almost a month when I do the stuff before we have the meeting.

Really don't know why that's out here because it doesn't do anything. the mouse trying to get it to work and it doesn't work. So, princess first. couple. Um, yeah, I got to leave by two. No, 1:45 tomorrow. 9. Okay.

That way I can hear

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Just close the door. They allang6. Thursday, January 15, 2026. Kelly Morris, Barb Chapman, Chris Co. here. Gers, hi there. Tom Clifton

right here. We have everyone. Good way to start the year. Next on the agenda is read. Make a motion that I under new business 20261. Oh, we need to do election search first. It's on the new one because I forgot it. I mean, I saw the planning commission and just assume that it was on RSP. It was just a You're correct. It is overbody.

Uh I make the motion that we maintain. That's right. Already made the motion already got the second. All right. Under new business 20261.

All right. You have the floor. We stand up. Sit down. I also have Kyle Pers who's gonna be my builder from Parmes. So basically, um, as you can see from what's on the screen, we want to take our existing garage, which is 24 by 20

and we want to just replace that structure. But along with that, we want to add a second floor to allow me to store seasonal lawn equipment, decorations, and furniture. Uh there'll be a lift installed in the garage and what that does and provides a safer way for me to do that as I'm getting older. Lifting that stuff into a pickup truck and taking it down. That is just a huge chance for injury. Last year I had my snow thrower fall on me out of the back of the truck. I'm like, "All right, we need a new solution." So, the idea was to put a second story on the existing well, it have to be a new garage so that I can put my things up there and use that lift instead of trying to hoist it up myself. It'll be a lot safer. We need a variance for the height because I want it to be tall enough so I don't hit my head. That's another chance for injury.

And as we a little more senior in here, bumping your head like that can be kind of a big deal. So by having the variance for the height, it also creates a safer place to lift. It's also better to prevent back injuries. If you're hunched over in a small loft trying to pick up 100 200 lb, it's really easy to hurt your back. So that's the first. So then along with that, because it has a second floor, we'll need stairs to access the second floor. And that's the reason we're requesting 36 additional inches on the back of the structure to uh hold the staircase that'll allow us to stairs. The staircase will be inside the building.

We want it inside the building because it'll work better. It'll be much more aesthetic just to look at inside the building. 36 in Yeah, where I put those little dash lines just right on the back. So that would still allow room uh to the property line. So maybe snow or rain overruns the gutters, it'll fall.

Okay. So excuse my negligence if I could read well um because I was looking couldn't find it. What is the the current height the your garage where it is at right now just for reference sake? Um I I don't know that for sure. It's got a 412 roof and it's got an 8 foot ceiling. So I'm not sure what the height would be to the peak that it's currently at. It's probably right around 13 feet probably. We're going to be 21t three by the time that the from the concrete to the roof. because I was trying to trying to get a good feel for okay how much additional feet on what's already there basically 8 ft for that second story

is there water no just electrical. Is that an ad that you have? We have partial. So, yeah. Then next to me on that side is a rental property.

So, we have lot 26. And then you can see where that thick black line is. That's partial 27. From the thin black line to the dark black line. There you can see the partial lock the building 12 in over air and 27 I don't know all block 27 block 27 as well.

Yeah, we just have that small portion of lot 27. That's what we mean by parcel lot. We don't own the whole lot. We own like the west 11 ft of lot 27. I'm not quite sure. It's it's included in what's the dark black line was originally built I think 1960. We've been there since 1986.

So the siding and the roof and everything the materials will exactly match the existing residential structure. So on the street it'll look like it's just one building. Can you do it this way instead of going into the next property because you got some different numbers on what was submitted. So we got some problems already on the other side. What's over there where that 1140 is on the what side? That's where their house is. No, the house is over here. Okay.

Yeah. Originally, we had considered building a shed in the back, but because that's waterfront, I thought it would look kind of ugly. Yeah. Um and we didn't want to do that. It would block the line of sight for anybody who wanted to look down the channel at the lake. I didn't want that either. Plus, there's a grade on the back, which as Kyle knows is really hard to work with that landlock, so even getting materials to the back. It would be difficult. And the sewer line runs through that yard, so we have to deal with that as well. So, we're like,

yeah, the better thing to do would just build up on the garage. Yeah, obviously we have that three foot. So once again I ask instead of going towards lot 27 can you come like where 1140 is so tight barely it would block our front door

it would lock the front door if we went out the other way toward um you mean the front door on your house? Yeah the front door of my house is right at the edge of the garage. So if I put the garage out three feet that way, block the entrance to our house, which then creates, you know, an emergency and other safety. Yeah. So we don't want to we don't want to obstruct the entrance. probably because they're going closer. Well, I mean, I don't know how they're going closer because I had if you take three feet off of 5 and 1/2 ft, you get 2 and 1/2 ft, but he's saying one and a half foot.

What do you mean after the roof? You're counting the We're not counting the overhang when we do this, but the overhang has to be on his property. It cannot overhang onto the neighbor's property.

2132 on here. Yeah, it was advertised as 21.

Okay. Well, I don't know. Is that within the 10% there? Is that what we're gonna go with? See, the issue is it's already been advertised as so. I mean I mean if it's it's an inch and a foot are two very different things I think but you know if it was a foot off I anxiety but an inch you probably wouldn't be able to actually tell and measure figure I don't know if the asbuilt's going to get that specific

are we asking for an as well I'm to say like it it if it was checked like no probably not because even if like I'm going set that but like I would say technically speaking it should have been advertised 213 if that's what it is but it might sink an inch be right where it's at the Somebody's here. I don't see any.

We heard from any one person return that side of this diagram. I say that number and I don't know his last name. Yeah, Jurgen sent his in

Larry Layman. So this building what's right across the street is a garage from there is parking and another twotory garage. So I think the nice thing about doing it this way is it doesn't obstruct anybody's line of sight

where somebody only an inch. So I'm not that concerned. Somebody might have said I'm okay with that at 212, but if I don't need to question

Yeah, just pretty important project for us and allow us to stay in our home for a lot longer. We just love it. I mean, we've been there since ' 86. And so, we want to stay there as long as we can. We just have to realize we're not as young as we used to be when we got here. Aging's wonderful.

Yeah. I'd make a motion then that we approve variance 2026 the 01 um assuming that perhaps uh foundation might sink in. I second that.

Then you'll have to come in and get the this next one.

Yes, I did.

What? is not like send. Oh, well, we could open the door. See, but I don't know why they're still out there.

Go to the bar's open. Good. Thank you very much.

15 84.

Standard height. That answers that question. Awesome. Mhm. Give me back his um Oh, no. I think I made those. Those are copies. I don't need Let me get those set up here.

They're little helmers from me. Yes. Like, oh, what did I do? Oh,

whenever I show up to a conference, I might have something.

You part in the painting. You already know. That's right. Active engaged secretary active engaged member.

We can move on to the varants 20 the building on the lot of variance. the building in there pretty so building still larger but we change the way the rideway system. So that doesn't count as a service. So standards do require concrete. Range remains the same. Each side is the basin in the back. in a gutter to the north side.

What's that cy? 16. It has 5'8 and a/4 inch to the ridge. header,

the top of header for the garage doors 10. It says What's the width of the e

16? out of the plane.

What's on the back here? If you look at the back there, that green line The original sign little square structure. Can't go smaller any smaller than 46. because of having you know pon I don't know if you back to come up to 18 I don't know what it is but I know you back in Yeah. What is the what is the average width of your average? saying

the wall 8 to 10. Pontoons are typically 8 to 10 ft wide. 8 to 10. Many are 8 to 8 and 12.

8. Many are That' be eight. Eight cuz they're at seven. clearly we're in the area where I don't know so much about space and yeah long enough and So what what is the size of the building that you get?

Just too big. You got a certain size lot and too many toys which everybody has too many toys put on.

Oh yeah. All right. I don't know what he's doing. He can. He just doesn't want to. Well, I mean, seriously, he can do it.

He's trying to get everything out of space for him inside. That's what obviously is something that and you guys are stuck in the building.

Oh, no. No. Yeah, you can make it. You can tell them, "Well, we'll prove it if it's this size." But because it's less than what was advertised, can't go bigger than what was or what was advertised or

he has come down some, but it's not enough. Yeah, Mr. G is person at 73 to be the length or less. Pretty smart guy brought it down to 72. So that's got the coverage issue too last too much coverage and now I'm drained. Yeah.

Yes. That was the demonstrator's main issue last time was the water runoff and drainage issues because it already has too much water back there, right?

Well, it's a swale. His water will stay on his spot and your water will stay on yours. So should should help that if you burn and swell the edges.

Those those numbers on those boxes are what surround correct? or no those this one here that's the address the new one I gave you that is the the yes that is the correct

while while it is definitely not And then once again, you have the drainage on each different lot too,

right? Lots really narrow. I just like that he was looking to find that middle ground. It was already getting

uh I don't know. It might say Yeah, see it's on there. It's just underneath. that size.

I mean, I'd like it to be uh not as long Yeah, the width takes the fact that you come in with a lot coverage doing a permanent service and all that. That's all good to the young guy off. 35% less piece. So I mean clearly the driveway comp

the width is the width isn't a big deal for me. You're okay with it? I'm I'm okay with the pointy thing because where everything else considerations move a little bit further away drainage issue that looks like that's been addressed. So for me my stick was I said my stick was on so so Madam BCA president, if you're giving me the look, fine. No, I don't think we're

I got no more questions and no more discussion. Uh, so I mean,

I'd rather see it come down to 24. You got three.

So can we make the motion provisional on it coming down to 24? I think I think they we have to vote on it as is or they have to agree to reduce it and then we can vote on that amended request. uh make the motion that we uh well I mean are we going to see yeah see if they wanted to get 24 helps the drainage size

it changes the calculation pretty less permanent. So if they reduce to 24 ft that would pass. Yes. That's what you're saying. That's what we're saying. I mean, yeah, I guess that's what he wants and he doesn't want to go to 24, but I'm pretty sure that's what you guys he can make it work

because if if they vote on it as is and it gets turned down, they got to wait one year to come back unless there's a substantial that would be up to substantial change. So

just to give you all the angles. Yeah, I Yeah, he goes to get it approved, but he would like to see it bigger, but he's one of those guys that he's going to have to deal with. giving you the opportunity

like that's that's the request to amend theirs to motion that we still still center the change from 26 by 72 We have a second. There'll be some paperwork you'll have to sign. We're gonna miss you guys. They're never gonna build another project here.

Excellentation. No, because those the calculations you did before were No, no, it's fine. I don't need I don't need more work.

Correct. I actually think I gave you the wrong one of these, Dustin. Oh, okay. Well, I didn't change the data. No, that's fine.

Okay. I finally left the post office to get And then my daughter wants to take her around the lake and to see the buffalo going down Lion's Drive and coming up for it

and going by and seeing the bison and then she wants to see the horses down by wayside. So then we my daughter then we come down and drive down around the north side of the lake and then we hit the bed and we drive by your guys place. Hey Chris, if you're if you're here and not somewhere else are they? We got the one here. Oh the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just I guess we should bring that stuff in. I should be able to pick up. Is that right? Yeah, if you want to email that and then I can have Jenny work.

Maybe it'll be ready. Yeah, we'll probably need to know the price, the amount of the building cost to do it. So, if you want to email that, too. At least three is concerned that one of the horses is okay. She barely gets excited after wearing the blanket. Let daddies are wearing her coats. Can you grab those?

Glad to get rid of all his paperwork. Like the the large alpha male, my daughter. his what do you think the boss is bored out of his mind? Oh, she's allig

it might but they don't they haven't been stopped. They are literally I can't even get a good and they can't lay down any is convinced that I don't think they care about the boss standing by. But what does she think of the baby?

Those are she calls him baby brother and baby sister. She's not she don't stay little for very long. So this after a few months she suddenly like clicked oh baby brother sister daddy where did they go like teenage brother

makes sense but Hey, I'm not All right. I have to refuse myself.

I kind of wonder as hostile. Are you ready?

I'm ready. what we want to do. So the base would basically take the same stone base of this still keep a 16 in area for someone to put their plants in there and then decide who's basically We still stay the same. They are sides. Yeah. The top part that we could put on special. Um, someone has to put on screen. Slide it up. Slide it in. It would not say Silvin Plaza all the time. I suppose I could if she kept that smaller across the top and then scroll.

So that part would be changed. Yes. Like if somebody was gonna have a special then

kind of like what Kelly or Lee has this sign do on occas

I don't know how to do it. Jenny does. Oh, you didn't. Jenny does it. light up inside each doesn't have to be bigger than than the requirements because the requirements are too You know, it's something no matter which way, which direction people come.

When we did that, noticeable, it was in 2011. It needs upgraded for sure. And the typical acrylics even my building.

So it could be smaller if they had less tenants, but got to make payments. Each one of these

believe it works out. That's what I was going to ask. So that's that's pretty

history. We've been here 41 years. So I've been here 79. Yes. Nice. We know. It wasn't even

Did you notify the neighbor? notified everybody and I got three of the returns but no one made any comments. So, Miss Patrick who lives on the back side and then Mike Edwards on that side and then um again corner You made us all of this stuff

just so you could see what they're were looking at doing and have an idea of where the sign would be in relationship to the building. Do you have five render?

Promise.

Yeah. And a city sewer can handle five five units. Okay. Yeah. Sure. I make motion approve 2026-4 as presented.

One in favor. That's the cheapest part. I'm sure. I know kitchen would be here because we didn't let him have as big a son as he

lets big I mean for all of the profuckle that variance hearing everything. I imagine something a whole lot bigger and a whole lot more ice bothering me.

The lights at the library give off more light. Yeah, I didn't mind any of those lights. The lights that he has on his building. Luckily, he doesn't turn those on. Well, I told him he they couldn't be turned on after hours. Those lights have to be shut off. They're too bright. They're too bright. They're too bright. And And when you're coming up on nine, it's almost blinding.

I've seen you see the rope, dude. Oh,

700 700 whatever that is. Oh, st three. I wasn't supposed to worry about my dog. Okay.

He's an 80 pound idiot. But she's his idiot. So there. Yeah. All right. We need a motion. No. No. We got a couple items here. Did you get anything from Did you get means to talk to Mr. I emailed Mr. Krueger? Yeah. Rob, I emailed Rob today. It finally sprung back into my head. So, he was going to reach out. Well, I emailed Rob and that Dana Carlson that were both representing him to see what the deal was with getting the the uh inspection on the bathroom to make sure it's gone.

Well, they got they got to call. He he dropped the check off, but he never scheduled the inspection for the bathroom in the garage, which they weren't supposed to have. So I said to Dustin, I go, you know, how much more money are we going to waste on attorneys talking to each other about him doing the taking the bathroom out? Well, suppose supposedly was out, right? So why can't we just get in there? have that. So, I I reached out to his attorney and he said he would let me know what's going on. I I looked the last email I got from Rob about there was something else to be done.

They did that on the outside. Was that the house? They moved the stuff from the the Well, there was something else that a plumber needed to do. I don't know. Oh, in the back. Well, I'm not sure. Something needed to be done before they could get there. I don't. So, he's trying to get Well, but that was back in October. January. January. Oh, that's been going on for a year. Yeah, that started in January. That's just with the attorney.

No, J. He came in for his first variance in his second variance in January for the for the chimney. But he start it started like with the first variance on the house was like 2024 I think and that's when he told us he well I just won't do the chimney and then there was Jim here. All right. And I don't have any updates other than we have the court hearing on April as far as we know. Oh why? because it's right in the middle of spring break.

That's why the other the other attorneys they asked me today. They So, did you tell them they could move it forward instead of they Well, the court said that because that's the end of like the I don't know. We have this briefing schedule. I have to prepare a brief about our So, so we spend I am tickled that I I'm gonna I'm gonna try to keep it under like two pages just to really irritate our offense. I mean, that's pretty easy. They're going to submit like an 80 page brief. I can already see on the wall. Well, sure. Because they're getting paid for it

and you're not going to get paid for an 80page brief. I can tell you that right now. Dustin. So, hey Dustin, just by virtue of sitting on this this panel right here because I would like to be in the know on the documentation for this one. I would love to see if you like to check my grammar. Would you like to check my grammar?

Well, actually, no. Call it ridiculous. I would love to see that when you're done. be my editor if you want me to. But more like when they're my students are rolling their eyes and those 15 about, hey, you never know when you're going to have to write about X, Y, or Z. This is a perfect example. Hey, prominent local attorney I know had to write this up for just you should just have that as a writing prompt for them. Our arbidos just see what your kids. Yeah. Have them research it. Hey Dustin, what did you call? They asked for a what? They asked to continue that hearing because they're unavailable. And then they asked for an extra week to submit their brief because their brief was supposed to be due tomorrow

and they said they were too busy and they need an extra week. I told them I don't care because that means I get another week to raise. Well, I would just say they're probably not scoring any points right now. I was hoping to just skip Greece. Let's just have an argument. I only need 10 minutes tops. Part of that will be how he feels about home. Correct. Thinking he's feeling pretty good. All that said, it makes me sad because I seriously had it written on the calendar because it's Monday of spring break.

You're going to be helping and you could have been there. I was like, I get to see all the interwork. This is gonna be awesome. I don't know if we'll make a decision eventually, but anyway, I totally do want to reach our our provider, right? See, look at that. Good luck, Elsa. I usually like I usually like scribble out all my stuff and then I have one of the girls, the one of my two assistants have

read it for grammar, please. Next meeting, February 19th. Oh, it comes in the house. Not that one. Good night.

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so I don't understand the guy subdivision. This will be my fifth time I've met with him. And why did he take Why didn't he take notes? Why is he? So now he's coming in at nine o'clock tomorrow to talk about what we talked about tonight. I'm like, what in the hell? Josh Lash knows how to do him. He doesn't want to pay for the sewers, the design of the sewers, and I don't want to have another subdivision done that doesn't have [ __ ] designed

because it's not my job to figure out how people can get up in the sewer. It's his job because he So not like I twitch newly or is that just coming with everything else? So it's coming with my condolences

spearheading the NPC you guys campaign. Well, I got sucked into that because Dave Abbott called me about it. Then Dave was wanting he was collecting stuff and I go, "Yeah, well Dave, I don't think you want to put your private email out on Facebook for people to send stuff to you." So that's how I got sucked. I think Sarah's already called yet. Ours usually it's on our radar to put us on your

Well, you'll get you'll get different answers from them. So, some might be helpful and try to help you. Others will tell you that you can't complaint over the phone and have mail a letter to this person. I I was an actual snail mail personal. Do you remember this was the mail never makes it? This was back in the 2010s. This was

it was that famous moment that made it on the news was like the New York mayor's race. There was that one black guy who his only campaign platform was the rent is too damn high. Like I guarantee if you go to YouTube and search now there's still videos of it. feel like somebody could utilities and would probably do better than anybody else. Right. I don't screw that in New York. I was supposed to be doing

Well, this was an interesting evening. Well, at least people start