Planning and Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, January 21, 2026
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Planning and Zoning Commission
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Planning And Zoning Commission
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Temple, TX
Meeting Date
January 21, 2026

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145 sections (from 354 segments)

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0:21 – 1:090

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don't think he's started. I was Check on YouTube.

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Nobody touch anything. No, no, they fixed it. I promise they do.

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4:10 – 4:540

All right. Good evening. Um, we are at our 5:30 and I will now call the January 20th 2026 Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting to uh to order. Uh, Mr. John Atkinson, can you please call roll, please? Good evening. Welcome to the January 20th, 2026 planning and zoning open session meeting. Commissioners. All right. Good evening. Um, we are at our 5:30 and I will now call the January 20th 2026 planning and zoning commission regular meeting to Mr. Morales. Order. Uh, Mr. Johnson, can you please call roll, please? Commissioner Ag Commissioner Smith present.

4:53 – 5:310

Vice Chair Jerasic presum six commissioners in attendance. Mr. Atinson, do we have problem with the recording? It's replay. If anybody has their uh phone open or something of that nature that's replaying the live stream.

5:34 – 6:170

Yeah, it does sound like it's coming through the speakers. I don't think so. We're going to pause for just a minute, folks. Okay. Um, tonight we're going to have Commissioner Ag, who will lead us in our invocation and Commissioner Langino will lead us in our pledge. that I don't hear anything.

6:150

I'm not hearing it now. Let's start off with if you'll all rise and please join me in prayer.

6:28 – 7:110

Father God, we thank you so much for everything that you provide us. God, we thank you for this community and these people that have chosen to spend their time coming to you. get involved in their city. God, we appreciate all that you do in this area and we appreciate the uh the good things that you bring to us, God. Tonight, we ask for discernment. We ask that our hearts are open to your will. God, be in this place and be with us. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen.

7:08 – 7:280

I pledge allegiance to the of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [snorts]

7:24 – 9:220

All right. Thank you. And let me real quick explain again if some of you weren't in uh here a few minutes ago. Um tonight um we're going to hear a couple of items. And I think most of you are here that I have on the sheets are for love where you build and that will be a case and then once you hear the case presented then we will open it up for p we'll open it up for public comment and that is the point where we would ask you to come up and uh state any comments that you have and you'll hear me read these rules in just a few minutes but you see a a clock up in the top right hand corner. It's a threeminut time clock just so everyone that wants to talk um we would like to if you can respectfully you know keep your uh comments down to three minutes. If you've heard somebody state your case already and we call your name out if you have signed up on the signin sheets and you feel like your case has been stated and heard then you can choose to u recuse at that point and say your your your comments have been heard. Um, we're going to try to do this in an orderly fashion. One of the processes that we go through now is that we're the commission is just going to do some procedural things from our last meeting and then coming into the agenda tonight. So, we'll go through these things pretty quickly and then um we'll get started off with the um the uh agenda items for tonight. So, with that said um we will now confirm the meeting agenda items. Is there any question commissioners from the meeting agenda items? Okay, if there's no objection um we'll move on with a unanimous consent to that and then um again this is a point where I will ask for public comments. This is a normal procedural thing. If there's

9:20 – 10:060

anybody here from the public that would like to talk about something other than a case that is being presented tonight, this would be the time for you to come forward if there's any other issue that you would like to talk about other than that. Okay, seeing none, we'll move on there and then we'll move on to our consent items. Uh on the consent agenda, we item number four, the January 5th planning and zoning meeting minutes. If there's no objections, I'll entertain a motion. Commissioners. Okay. Um, I have a motion by Commissioner Morales and a second by Commissioner Ag. Can we call for a vote?

10:05 – 10:220

Commissioner Morales. I, [clears throat] I, Commissioner Smith. I vice chair. I chairs I unanimous. Motion carries.

10:20 – 10:590

And now we'll move on to our items for this evening. Um item number 5 FY26-1- ND hold a public hearing to discuss and recommend action on amendment to ordinance 2020-5061 city of temple comprehensive plan 2020 to amend the future thorough affair plan staff has requested to table this item there's no objections to this I will entertain a motion Second.

10:57 – 11:180

Okay. I have a motion by Commissioner Morales and a second by Commissioner Smith. And John, can we have a vote? Commissioner Morales. I Commissioner Ag. Commissioner Smith. I vice chair.

11:15 – 11:590

I unanimous motion carries. Okay. All right, we'll move on to item number 6, FY26-7-PLT. Consider and take action on the final plat of Meadow Lake phase 1, a 54.810 acre, 197 lot, 9b block, 7Track residential subdivision situated in the Maximo Mareno survey abstract number 14, City of Temple, Bell County, Texas. addressed as [clears throat] 7246 Old Highway 95. Case will be presented by Cheryl Mackel.

11:57 – 13:560

All right. Thank you. Um, chair roads. Uh, the planning commission has final approval authority for this plat. This shows the location of the property. It's in the vicinity of FM 93, um, Spur 93 and Old Highway 95. Um, the second slide is a zoomed in view of the aerial shot showing the the property is primarily undeveloped. there is residence at the the corner, the north east corner. So this is 197 lots. It's a mixeduse development. Um 162 of the lots are proposed for detached single family homes. 35 are proposed for town home lots. And this is in accordance with the plan the plan development ordinance that was approved in February 2024. Plants also generally consistent with the preliminary plan that was approved in 2025. Um in the upper corner here you can see the uh basically the u preliminary plat and the zoning as well as phase one is delineated with the the red line. Um again the color codes for the zoning single family 3 is the shown in purple. The town home lots are shown in yellow. Um the area here at the corner that was proposed for multif family 2 and general retail. In this phase it's actually um comprises several uh tracks for different uses. Um eight tracks are proposed. Tracks A, B, C and D um shown in the green area. Those are essentially common area with um some parking and drainage uses. And then uh tracks E, H, and F are shown in blue. Those are um proposed for drainage tracks. And then track G here at the corner, the bottom area is for future rideway to provide access to property to the south. So there is a CIP project in this area for the future elementary school which um uh abuts this property shown in the blue right there. It includes roadway improvements which are shown in red. That includes the extension of um this road that would provide access to the property to phase one. That's Meadow Crest Parkway. Um it also includes uh sewer line improvements which are shown

13:55 – 15:520

in the green and then waterline improvements which are shown in blue. So again, Metorest Parkway um is part of the CIP project. It's a four-lane divot roadway. It runs along the um eastern edge of this phase. Access to the phase this phase of development is dependent on this roadway. So um this is a conditional approval that we're recommending for this plat. Approval is conditioned on completion and dedication of Metorest Parkway and acceptance of this roadway by the city. Uh other streets in this phase are basically constructed as local streets except for Prairie Sage Drive which will be constructed as a collector street. Regarding the entrance requirements for 197 dwelling units, this is satisfied with one alternate design entrance which is a wider entrance here at Prairie Sage Drive and Meadow Crest Parkway and one standard design entrance which is um shown in green with Summerfield Drive and again Meadow Crest Parkway. And that's consistent with what was approved with the preliminary at the bottom. And street projections, we already mentioned uh track G will provide access to property to the south. Regarding sidewalks and trails, um again, Meadow Crest Parkway is a divided boulevard. Um an 8ft sidewalk will be provided on one side and a 5ft sidewalk on the other with 9 and 1/2 ft planting strip between the sidewalk and the curb for trees. And again, this is in accordance with the PD ordinance. Um also uh with the PD ordinance, a sixoot sidewalk is required on three sides of the TISD property and that'll be provided when the property um is developed by TISD. On the Parkland dedication fee, the dedication requirement is 1 acre for 133 dwelling units. For the whole preliminary plat, there's 432 dwelling units uh which would require 3.2 acre dedication. The applicant is requesting to pay the fee in L of the land dedication. And since the land dedication exceeds three acres because it would be 3.2 The planning commission must determine if fee payment is appropriate and this

15:50 – 17:470

would have to be basically reviewed with each phase. Um so basically staff is supported uh supportive of the uh fee payment uh for these three reasons. Basically easements are on this side. Again there's a 250 foot wide encore ement 100 foot wide um atmas easement. So area that's suitable for parkland development is limited. The South Temple Park located or shown here in this exhibit is approximately one mile away. Um and we feel that this would be an ideal spot to use the funds that would benefit this area in general. And the applicant is providing um almost 7 and a half acres of common area which again would be the tracks ABC and D shown in the in the green. So payment for phase one would total 44 $444,325. Um, regarding the utilities, again, there's water and sement sewer improvements with the CIP project. A 12-in water line and a 15-inch sewer line will be extended. The applicant will connect to these lines and extend six and 8 inch water lines and sewer lines throughout the subdivision. And fire hydrants will be provided as required by the fire code. There are three detention pro uh detention ponds proposed. Those are in the the tracks E, H, and F, which are shown in blue. The applicant is requesting that the city um own and maintain these tracks. This does require city council approval and Council did act on it last week at their meeting. They did approve um the acceptance of those tracks for ownership and maintenance. Um it is in the Temple ISD and the PLA was determined to be administratively complete on January the 9th. So we recommend approval against conditional approval of the final plat and payment of the park fees in le of land dedication um subject to the following conditions that construction and dedication of Meadowrest Parkway um be completed and accepted by the city uh in order to meet the res. subdivision entrance access design standards as required under the UBC. And with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

17:45 – 18:160

All right. Thank you, Cheryl. Commissioners, any questions or comments for this? Yeah. So, you said that the council's already approved um the taken ownership of the drainage, right? uh ditches or drainage easements or whatever it is. How? So, how does that approval work? Yeah. Why didn't it why didn't it come here first and then there? What's

18:13 – 18:540

So, we recently changed in uh December our land acquisition policy. And so, anything of this size they now have to approve that the city will accept it. Um so, that is going to council separate from the plat. Got so it still is contingent on approval of the plat but city council has approved that they would accept it as part of this plan. So I don't need to ask do we have people in place to be able to mow all that? No, you don't need to ask. We've already then I won't ask if we have enough people to public works. So appreciate it.

18:51 – 19:340

And Cheryl on the CIP portion, you know, is is that underway now or when I mean, obviously before they start scratching dirt on this, the CIP, some of that, the roadways and stuff like that, it's going to have to be addressed. I know the project is underway. I don't know if they've broken ground on the actual construction, but it has definitely been under design. BJ, you probably know better than me. BJ can answer it. All right. Good evening. BJ Little with Turley Associates. Um so we are actually contracted early is contracted to complete the CIP project also.

19:29 – 20:140

Um the plans are 99% complete. We're just waiting on some tech stock items up along F93 spur to be completed and then the plans will be approved and then it's it's whenever it's in the budgeting I think funded for this year to to go to construction I believe. I'm not for sure on that. So what's going to happen at that 93 intersection as far as You know, you always hear the accident. Yeah. Per per the CIP plan, there it there's not a warranted signal at this time at that intersection. However, at uh old 95 and 93, you can see the the second red circle over there to the east. Right. There will be a signal installed at that intersection with this project, which will slow things down,

20:13 – 20:520

which will slow things down. And that one's actually the more dangerous intersection. I think there's lots of accidents and whatnot that happen there. So, um, that will be a part of the overall project. Last question for you, VJ, is TISD, when is that on their radar to start to build that? I think the the last demographic that they got, it's it's pushed out a little bit. I don't think they're in quite as much of a hurry as they had anticipated. Um, I think I believe with the bond that just passed, there was funding in that bond for them to begin the design on it. So they I believe they've uh contracted with a architect and they're working on the design for that school, but I believe it's still a couple years out.

20:49 – 21:260

And you might not know this, but and I know TD has nothing to do with what we're doing here tonight, but has the boundaries changed, you know, for kids to be able to go to Academy ISD? Is it No, well, I mean, I I can't speak to if they've changed, but I know that um this whole project is TISD. And there's kind of almost on the image, you can see kind of where the image fades. It's there's kind of a line there. and this whole phase and then probably I don't know thousand foot south is all TISD and then it turns into academy district was on in academy for a while. Yeah, it's the the school district lines are on in that area. Okay, for now.

21:25 – 22:400

Yeah, for sure. And I do have one question. Um Cheryl, what was if y'all go to the last slide because I I just want to make sure we understand. So construction and dedication. Okay. Well, okay. So, Meadow Crest Parkway, I want to make sure and this I'm going to tell you what the developers are going to request here. construction of merest Parkway is going to take 18 to 24 months and that may not start for another 6 to 12 months. I think that the dedication of the rideway which uh Jacob Andis with City of Temple and the legal department is working on acquiring that rideway from the developer. They've already gone through the whole process. We've provided all of the documents necessary for them to obtain that rideway. Once that rideway is in place, I mean obviously we cannot constru start construction on this project before we have a road in place. However, we could be doing those simultaneously and so having to wait for construction to be completed of me Parkway. Is that what you were intended that to be done? I don't know that that's what we had thought. I know that that they don't want to wait two years for that to be done before they can even begin construction or before this plot will even be approved

22:39 – 23:200

or recorded I guess. I mean it can be approved conditionally tonight but if it can't be reported for two years into the bills does he normally record before yes I mean flat work is usually done first we always record as soon as completed we go record the plat and and if we would have had that rightway in this plat we could have went recorded that plat tomorrow so I think all that's needed is the rightway to be in place to which is okay I'd be fine with amending that um to dedication of Meadow Crest Parkway.

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Okay. So, Cheryl, do you have the verbiage there or so? I don't need to have one of these commissioners repeat that. Yeah. So, you'll just say um I if you're in favor, you'll say uh we we approve with conditions as recommended by staff, but we amend the condition to only be the dedication of Meadow Crest Parkway.

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And that should get us where we need to be. Yeah. I I had one more question. Sorry, BJ. don't want to put you on the spot, but on the park land and and and paying the fee instead, are there the potential of parks throughout other phases? Is there I mean, and this is really, I guess, a question for the city as well, but deferring these fees to, you know, to a different phase as far as putting a park in or

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Well, I we so we worked with uh Chuck Ram and the park department assistant park director. We have so the these tracks, the one that you see, that's a B. It's a long It's 200 foot wide. It has a overhead power line in it. Now, the other track that is C, it also cuts this property. It has a Atmas gas line in it. And so, you can't really do any improvements within these tracks. Encore isn't going to let you put anything underneath their power lines. And Atmas doesn't want you placing anything over their gas lines or within their ement. So, um the the plan was is could we have done parkland? We didn't. We chose not to on this one. We wanted to pay the park fees and talking with uh Mr. Ram, that was a preference of his. He he was fine with that. The paying of park fees because he wanted those funds to improve other parks in the area. So

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to which park, whatever. South Temple Park is where the funds would go to for improvements. So they will go to the nearest park to this. They have to spend it. They have rules on how they have to spend the funds and that's the park that's been identified where they would spend those funds. Upgrade of equipment. [clears throat]

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Yeah. Thank you. Um, see, this does not require public hearing. So, commissioners, any other questions or comments? Otherwise, I'll entertain a motion. And in your motion, you'll want to mention the dedication of Meadow Press Parkway. Is that right away? Is that what you want to say? Yeah. Yeah. I can be up here for the motion, too. Just

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that's fine. I I move to accept FY26-7-PT as presented with the omission of construction and only dedication of Metacress Parkway. Okay, perfect. Perfect. I have a motion from Commissioner Smith. Do I have a second? Commissioner from Commissioner AG. Can we call for a vote? Commissioner Morales. I ag. Unanimous. Motion carries.

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Thank you, Cheryl. All right, we're moving on to the public hearing. Um item number seven, love where you build. hold a public hearing to discuss and recommend action on amendment to the United United [clears throat] unified sorry cannot talk development code article six to a new section for the love where you build overlays consisting of neighbor neighborhood conservation one NC1 neighborhood conservation 2 NC2 and neighborhood conservation 3 NC3 overlay zoning districts and consider recommending the plan to city council for adoption. The case will be presented by Christina Strickland.

27:07 – 29:070

Good evening, commissioners and members of the public. So, this is before you tonight and it'll go to city council first reading on February 19th and city council final or second reading on March 5th. This is before you tonight for the love where you build program that is comprised of our neighborhood conservation overlays and city approved plan sets. So just to kind of go over through the agenda of what some topics that we'll cover tonight for the presentation is really the introduction, the history based zoning versus a zoning overlay, uh neighborhood conservation overlay and its applicability, our process, our standards, and then our city approved plan sets. So this is a little bit different than our normal PNC um resoning request that you get just because the type of resoning that it is. So I do just want to um right [clears throat] up front for members of the public that are here. Please note that what this program means for what it mean what it does not do is it does not take away property rights. You're able to use the way your property the way that you use your property today. You're able to continue to use it today, tomorrow, and in the near future. It doesn't take away any of how you use your property today. It's not retroactive. It doesn't mean that if this program is adopted that you have to go back and make any of these changes to your property. This is for new development and for if you want to make any changes to your property. That's when these um standards are applicable. So, it doesn't take away anybody's homes. It does not create an HOA and it does not charge any fines or fees. Uh what this program does do, what it can mean for property owners, for builders and developers, is it really allows more flexibility on your current parcels. So that can mean site improvements such as relaxed standards. So, if you always wanted a big front porch and under our current rule book, which is our UDC or unified development code, under our current rule

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book, you're not able, you may not be able to build that front porch because of our front yard setbacks or our rules. Under the level you build program, these NC overlays, it allows more flexibility. So, you may actually be able to build in that front yard setback where under the current current rule book, you're not allowed to. So, it allows for more flexibility. improvement for things like front porches, building additions, um just more site development. You can take up a little bit more of your parcel than what you can under our current rule book. So, increased lot coverage. There's opportunities for accessory dwelling units. Um just another word for that is mother-in-law suites. Those can be separate additions. They can be connected to the primary residence. Um and then it really the main focal point of this program is for infill development. So, just to kind of give a little bit of history and background, Love Where You Build is born out of Love Where You Live. Love Where You Live is a neighborhood planning initiative that the city has undertaken and identified 24 key neighborhood planning districts within the city of Temple. Uh, Love Where You Build has been identified in 14 of those 24 uh neighborhood planning districts. And the purpose of neighborhood planning is really to work alongside residents um in each neighborhood to identify neighborhood concerns, values, visions, and goals. And really just to understand what do you like about your neighborhood, what don't you like, what could be improved, what could be better, what did we do right, maybe what wasn't done right, and how we can improve upon that, and just uh collect the neighborhood as a whole. Um, another element of neighborhood planning is to help develop long range planning goals and initiatives in your neighborhood. And that can be things like increased connectivity. So things like sidewalks or for instance the love where you build program. What we noticed when we went out to all of these neighborhood planning districts is that

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there is a lot of vacant parcels within the city of Temple, but there's also a missing middle housing. So your standard threebedroom, two bathroom, twocar garage doesn't fit every stage of life. And we noticed that people need different housing than maybe what's available right now. So the lower you build program was intended to kind of fill that gap. So base zoning. So a lot of you what's brought you all out here this evening is those legal notices that you received in the mail. and we definitely understand the concern that can come with those. But I just kind of want to give a little bit of background and history of what is base zoning versus what is an overlay and how it's important for you to know what's applicable and what's not applicable. So base zoning, if you will, is the the rules that are on the land right now. The entire city of Temple is made up of base zoning. It's things like where residential can go, where industrial can go, where commercial can go. The rules are already there of saying what can go where and what land uses are allowed by right under base zoning. Um so that's things like if you wanted to know if you can have a open up a neighborhood coffee shop in your area. You would identify your base zoning and go to our map and then you would go to our rule book or our UDC and understand okay I'm in general retail maybe I can have a coffee shop or I'm single family one zoning maybe I I can't have a coffee shop in in the single family one base zoning district. So that's just the rule book and the breakdown of what base zoning is what's allowed where and what those land uses are. This on the screen is a map of the city of Temple and the color codes for base zoning. Just to kind of draw your attention because it's very busy. There's a lot of shapes, but whenever you come and talk to a planner, this is what we look at. So purple is your light industrial, your purple is your

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industrial, green is your agricultural land, red is your commercial, and kind of your yellows and browns, that's your residential development, and then blue is really for that employment area, kind of where the hospital is. So this is base zoning. So, all of these areas have already been identified and colorcoded of what can go where and what's allowed where. So, what is a zoning overlay? A zoning overlay is what's being presented to the planning and zoning commission this evening for recommendation to city council and what will ultimately be recommended for adoption for the city council to vote on. Zoning overlay is like an extra set of guidelines on top of the base zoning. Um, this can be used um in a variety of ways for different cities. They all really kind of use it in a variety of ways, but it's intended really to protect special features um or help guide development in a specific way. For example, it's used to protect historic buildings, natural resources, or even encourage mixeduse neighborhoods. So, a property will still have to follow the rules of the base zoning, but the overlay just adds additional standards or even exceptions um on that base zoning. Uh for instance, we already have a historic district overlay and then an I35 uh overlay and these just help add additional things like screening and sign height requirements. So, it's just an additional set of standards on top of base zoning. So, the neighborhood conservation overlay adds standards for things like landscaping, parking, overall site design, and it also allows for certain exceptions. So lover you build isn't deciding what uses are allowed where. It's saying if these uses go here when this area is developed. It needs to meet these different site organization standards like parking, landscaping, access. That's what we're

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looking to achieve. So you can think of this as kind of a tailor fit for zoning rules to help fit the specific needs of the areas that lower you build is in. So this is a map of the 14 neighborhood planning districts that Love You Build is applicable in, but it's not applicable everywhere. So, while the primary focus of Love You Build is infill development, infield development isn't appropriate in every area of those neighborhood planning districts. So, we've identified the neighborhood conservation overlay one, two, and three, which is yellow, orange, and pink. Um, and kind of colorcoded them in specific areas or not just neighborhood or not where infill development is appropriate, but also maybe where people are wanting to increase their homes or add additions or have carports that aren't allowed by right or accessory dwelling units that are not allowed by right right now. So, that's kind of the importance of this map and just understanding what is applicable where. So, there is a QR code here. You're always welcome to go to our website um and plug in your address and see what your base zoning is. So, you can already the rule is right now and then what neighborhood conservation overlay you're in. So if you want to add an addition to your home or you have a vacant lot that you've always wanted to build on, now you can go in and kind of see what's applicable to you. So zoning overlay and in um just to kind of go over some zoning overlay and infill development. I've mentioned those things a couple of times this evening, but just to break it down, infill development is really just to make use of vacant lots. So, we have a lot of vacant lots in the city of Temple and right now because of our current rule book, it doesn't alend themselves to being developed. Um, so the purpose of this program is to try to encourage those lots to be developed. We all know

36:49 – 38:480

that vacant lots can lead to things like comp code compliance issues, illegal dumping, unhoused encampments, and overall depreciation. So, by providing infill development, we're trying to provide more onto the area and with our city approved plan sets uh it'll also help provide quality obtainable housing. That's another goal of lower you build um is that quality obtainable housing that that doesn't fit every um you know kind of all the products that may be available today. So this is really to allow residents, builders and developers to just do a little bit more with less um while maintaining the character and integrity of the neighborhood which is intended to encourage infill development. So, a lot of these areas, they're mature, they're already developed, they have a character, they have a style. So, the city approved plan sets were designed with that character and architecture in mind. So, that way these homes can, if a city- approved plan set is used, they're able to just fit seamlessly within the character of the neighborhood. And they're really intended to work for everyone. Um, you know, you've got your starter families, you've got your very young families, you've got people who just cohabitate. We've got a lot of traveling doctors and traveling nurses, teachers, um, older residents that just the traditional single family home doesn't fit their need or their stage of life. So, that's what these uh, 24 city approved plan sets have been designed to try to achieve is to fill that missing middle housing. They are free of charge. And then we also have additional grant opportunities available just to try to help encourage that infill development. So some neighborhood conservation overlay one, two, and three highlights. Some big takeaways from these um different NC overlays and kind of what they mean. So you can think of them in

38:44 – 40:420

the sense of density and density is how much um of an area you occupy with people. So NC1 is really for your uh traditional single family neighborhoods and it's primarily intended for your detached single family homes. Uh one takeaway from property owner benefits is you can take up up to 55% of the lot instead of the standard 50 that you can do right now. And also we're allowing accessory dwelling units by right. So that way if the site can fit an accessory dwelling unit, um if the site can lend itself to an ADU, whether it's attached or detached, it would be allowed by right. Right now, under our current rule book, no accessory dwelling units are allowed within the city of Temple by right. You are required to come through uh the planning department and reszone the property to get an accessory dwelling unit, which is a two-month process. It has to go to the planning and zoning commission and then also city council for adoption. So, we're just trying to help area residents make it a little bit easier um not to have to go through that government red tape, if you will. NC2 is designed for uh really kind of that middle road of of density. And you can think of that as it can be single family homes. It can be things like duplexes or cottage court developments um or even adaptive reuse. We're really looking to encourage that that alley access and alley if it's available. Um, and then property owner benefits are also, of course, that accessory dwelling unit structures like carports and uh taking up to 65% of the lot instead of the the 50% that's allowed. NC3 is the highest density. Now, when I'm talking about density, the density isn't appropriate everywhere, and we were very intentional with our density

40:38 – 42:380

color coding. So NC3 is really along your major roadways. So when you think of major roadways, you can think of things like Avenue M or Avenue H. Those are are larger roadways. Um and with NC3, we're really looking at active street corridors. So roads with a lot of traffic, but that have the potential for um walkability, sidewalks, so they can connect area residents that may live along those areas to additional retail or neighborhood services. So people who maybe don't have a vehicle um they they have more access because they're in a higher density area. Um and NC3 really lends itself to like neighborhood scale apartments. When I think of apartments, I'm thinking of a 100 or a 400 unit complex. That's not what this is. This is neighborhood scale. So that's more of like your 8 to 10 unit um apartment. So it's much smaller. It can fit within the fabric of these neighborhoods. There's not a lot of So, and because this is infill, we're trying to make sure that it's not this really large production. And with NC3, you can actually take up to 80% of that lot coverage. I do want to point out with each NC overlay, and even though there's differences, they all come with the same standards and the same requirements. You have to adhere to the parking, um, the landscaping, and the site organization. So, we've kind of taken on the slogan of If it fits, it ships. If it doesn't fit, it can't be built. That's a very, very big important takeaway here. While we're trying to encourage infill development, if it can't fit on the site or if infrastructure isn't available like water or access, um just because it's colorcoded as a NC1, two or three doesn't mean that all of a sudden all these things are going to start going up because they still have to be able to fit within the site uh respectively and

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appropriately. So, I felt that it was really important to kind of showcase this for everybody. There's a lot kind of going on on the screen. So, just to kind of break it down, on the left hand side is a snapshot of our base zoning. And what you'll see is we have a large area that's kind of in a light brown that's called 2F, two family. What's allowed by right into family? Remember, base zoning is the current rule. It's the current allowance right now. Um, so what that means is that if there's a vacant lot, a duplex can be built today, right now under our current rule book. So even though this area is a predominantly single family detached area, um, if there's a vacant lot, because of its current base zoning, a duplex can be built. Our current rule book does not have a set of standards. It's just a duplex can be built. But the NC overlay, um, 2 overlay. What that does is it puts a set of protections, if you will, it puts a set of standards on top of that two family based zoning. So even if a duplex is allowed to be built by right now, it has to adhere to the standards in the lever you build document and those standards are parking, access, site organization, landscaping. Um, so I do feel like it's important to note that this is a snapshot of the exact same area. This is the Jackson Park neighborhood planning district. So the two of that may be familiar. It's also a budding Jackson Park. So while this area is predominantly single family because of its zoning, those duplexes are allowed by, right? But the NC2 just allows for um a little bit more standards because again we want any kind of infill that goes in here to be respectful of the built environment, the character of the area that already exists. It's also important to note that remember base zoning is the rule. So if you're zoned SF1 or single family one,

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single family 2, or single family 3, which are only for single family detached homes, so you know, kind of your standard traditional home, duplexes are not allowed in those base zonings anyway. The NC2 doesn't make that an allowable feature. If the base zoning is SF1, two, or three, duplexes are not permitted regardless of the neighborhood conservation overlay uh color coding. Just felt like that was important to uh state for everybody. So, while this is about a 70 some odd page document, if anybody wants to take on a little bit of light reading, um it's very picturecoded. A picture is worth a thousand words. We as planners, we code all day, every day. We understand it. But this program is not just for planners or for builders or developers. It's for everyday citizens to be able to come into us and say, "I have a vacant lot and I want to build on it." Um, so we have created a quick reference guide, if you will. So, you can find what NC overlay you're in and just come to this quick reference guide book and see what's permitted and what's allowed in that NC overlay. It also kind of showcases the character that we're looking to see in these neighborhood conservation overlays as these are more appropriate and in line with the current built environment. So, lot development standards. I talked a little bit earlier about how you can do a little bit more with less and each neighborhood conservation overlay has additional flexibilities. Um, so this is appropriate and applicable if you're wanting to build an addition onto the side of the home or have a front porch, an accessory dwelling unit. But this is really also important if there is land that does lend itself to being subdivided, it has to follow these dimensional standards. So regardless of

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the base zoning, if you were able, for example, the mixeduse base zoning district, it allows you to subdivide those lots into very very very small small lots. The neighborhood conservation overlays are on top of the mixed use. So if you go to subdivide a a parcel, you now have to adhere to these dimensional standards regardless of what the mixeduse dimensional standards are. The intention there is to try to make that lot um a little bit more accountable for things like parking and access. uh but also the city approved plan sets are able to fit seamlessly within these uh dimensional standards as well. Uh so I talked a little bit about uh flexibility for everybody. You know, you can do a little bit more with your property and what that means for the everyday citizen if you already have a structure on your home or you already have a home on your lot. Uh so the accessory dwelling units, those can be attached or detached. So they can be standalone away from your home or they can connect to your to the home. Um we also in the planning department we have had an influx of carport requests and those are not allowed in our front yard setbacks by right. So, what's been happening is we have either had to bring a a zoning case forward, which is not the necessarily the right um approach for that, but we've have been having to take a lot of these carports to the zoning board of adjustments for a reduction in the front yard setback to allow these carports. What the love you build program or these NC overlays will do is just add that flexibility in these areas so everyday citizens are not having to come through that legal process. It can be cumbersome and confusing and overwhelming at the very least on top of having to pull a permit.

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Um we've noticed that not everybody knows they have to pull a permit. So then code enforcement gets involved and it just it can be a lot for the everyday citizen. So, we added in those carport standards and flexibility in the NC overlays to help just allow that by right. Again, it's just really important if the site and the infrastructure allows that that's where these developments can go. So, not every site is going to lend itself to to this flexibility, but the majority of them will. So, we wanted to kind of showcase here. This is just a rendering of kind of site design. a block of a row of homes. And this is how single family homes and two family homes can fit in seamlessly side by side to each other. And they all um have that single family character look and feel. So you've got the parking on the side or in the rear or taking um you know it could take access from an alley. And as you can see on this rendering, the the point of this is it's conflict reducing. So you don't have all those conflict points. driveways. You also don't have a sea of parking when you look down the street. When we're in these older, already developed neighborhoods, you don't have that. You don't have a sea of parking because that's not how these areas were built. That's not how they were designed. What um what we may see right now under our current rule book is that, you know, the whole front of the home can be taken up by a parking space and you look down the street and you just see a sea of cars and it's it's odd. it's mismatched and these areas um really have great front yards. They have an ability to have parking on the side or parking in the the rear of the property and we're trying to encourage, you know, more people to go out on their front porches. You get more eyes on the street um and then you get more eyes on sidewalks,

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etc. Things like that. So, this is just a rendering of how single family and two family can just work um seamlessly with each other. And then this is just a little bit higher density of NC2 and NC3. Just showcasing how alley access can be taken advantage of um in the event that there is an alley. And this just shows again town homes and duplexes. And the big key takeaway is that all the parking is in the rear of the property. So again, it just really encourages that front street engagement that we see in those older already developed neighborhoods right now. So when we talk about infill, you know, you might look down a street and you can see home, home, vacant lot, home, home. That's infill development. That vacant lot would be that infill development. This is a a rendering of one of our city approved plan sets that you can see just fits seamlessly right into the character of the neighborhood. It looks like it's always been there and it looks like it belongs. And um that's just really important to showcase that that's the purpose of this program and what it's been developed to to try to achieve is to make use of that vacant lot so it doesn't lend itself to a code compliance issue. Uh so when we talk about process pulling a permit for the everyday citizen can be cumbersome. You know people who pull permits all the time. It's it's just something that you do. Uh but we really wanted to try to encourage that infill development for the moms and pops in the area if you will. Um so we tried to kind of clean up that process and make it an expedited process. smoother, easier, and quicker for um anybody who wants to build in the level you build area or use our city approved plan set. The city approved plan sets are highly encouraged. [clears throat] They are not required, but they are highly encouraged in these NC overlays. So, when we talk about standards, let's talk about landscaping just for a moment. Under our current rule book,

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landscaping is not required in residential development. Period. builders and developers do it because it's a little tricky to sell a home without it. But our current rule book does not require it. Because this is infill development into these mature already developed neighborhoods, we wanted to be cognizant of that and require landscaping. A lot of people have put in time, effort, energy, and money into their landscaping. Trees, bushes, people take pride in their home. So infill development should be no different than that. Um there should be trees and shrubs and bushes and landscaping that is required in these areas. So this is one of those standards, if you will, that we're requiring if new development is done. So landscaping requirements only get um triggered if it's new development. So, there's been some concern about height um specifically in some of our NC overlays and we we we knew um that we needed to do something about our height. So, we did develop height looming standards. Really, what that means is that for every story that a structure goes above one story, an additional two feet of sideyard setback is required. So, if they go up, they have to go over and that's really to protect and screen the the abuing story resident from, you know, windows or things peering into somebody's backyard. And that's regardless of if it's residential or non-residential. So, the city approved plan sets, we do have 24 different city approved plan sets and they are all of different varieties. We have single family homes, we have duplexes, accessory dwelling units, uh live work units, multiplexes, town homes, and kind of every shape and size in between. Um, but really just to

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kind of showcase this one, this is one of our single family detached dwelling units. They can sometimes come in a onebedroom, a two-bedroom, or even a threebedroom because again, we're trying to be cognizant of every stage of life. But these are small. They're intended to fit on some of the smaller lots that are within these areas. So again, remember some of these lots don't really lend themselves to different types of development um and it may not fit some of the products that are available out there today. So we developed these with those smaller lots in mind. So [snorts] we have single family, we have some accessory dwelling unit um opportunities. Um and then like I mentioned earlier, we we have a variety of city approved plan sets. But just kind of to reiterate again, I know that the legal notices can very much be very concerning, but just please know a big key takeaway is that this program does not take away anybody or any property owners rights. They're able to use their property um today, tomorrow as they use it today, and for the foreseeable future. This program and its standards are only applicable in the event that there's new development or if somebody's adding an addition or redeveloping their property. Um it doesn't any homes. We're not creating any HOAs. We're not charging fees or fines. Um really again, this is just to try to allow some more flexibility to area residents, builders, and developers to make use of the the many vacant parcels that we have in the city of Temple, especially in these 14 neighborhood planning districts. Um, we have done a lot of public engagement over the last several months. Um, just to try to assist our citizens and residents to let them know kind of what Love You Build is, what they can anticipate, and what what they can expect. Uh, we held a public engagement meeting on November 18th in the evening. Um, and then we held another one on December 1st, kind of middle of the day,

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just in case anybody couldn't make it in the evening. Um, we didn't have a large amount of attendance from those two. Even though we we did try to really push those engagement efforts. Um we did things like sending out mailers, we did door-todoor hangers, um posted yard signs, had social media posts posted on Next Door. Um we even reached out to our neighborhood coalition which is part of our neighborhood planning process to try to engage um you know their um area residents and letting them know that what lever you build was what it is and what it means. Um we did also host a public meeting after the legal notices were mailed out on January 13th from 6:00 to 8 that was widely attended. Um so thank you to everybody who did come out. That was really nice to see the public really engage and and come out for the presentation. So for process and steps uh we are now here uh before you this evening but we started off with a draft document of love where you build. We met with our internal departments a variety of times for hours on end just to kind of unpack and and really understand what this program meant, its applicability, what was important to know from all departments within the city of Temple. It's not just planning but public works, police department, you know, fire, a lot of people were there to put in that input and put in that effort and and engagement into this document. So, a lot of people have been invested in this in this um product thus far. And then we went out to some stakeholder uh group presentations. We uh hosted some open houses. And now we are here uh before you this evening for a recommendation to city council and then this will ultimately move on to city council. So just to kind of get into some of this um we for public notification 10,132 legal notices were mailed out to

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property owners within a 200 foot notification boundary. To date 272 uh responses have been received. We are getting more and those will be updated as we progress to city council. But so far we have received 30 responses in agreement and 242 responses in disagreement. This notice was posted in the publish I'm sorry posted in the temple daily telegram on January 9th in accordance with state law and local ordinance. Staff's recommendation is to recommend approval of the amendment to the unified development code article 6 to add a new section for the where you build overlays consisting of neighborhood conservation one and C1, neighborhood conservation 2 and C2, and neighborhood conservation 3 and C3 overlay zoning districts and consider recommending the plan to city council for adoption. And I'm happy to answer any questions should you have any.

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Thank you, Christina. All right. Uh let me then we go to after the presenter uh provides us the information on the case then what we do is the uh commission talks between ourselves and as you listen and then we'll open it up for a public hearing in just a minute. So let me make a couple of comments uh for just a second. Um some of you might not know me from Adam. I understand that. I've lived in Temple my entire life with the exception of about five to seven years when I was in the corporate world. Um I understand, you know, definitely concerns and we want to hear those concerns and make sure that we're making them known. One of the things that if you've lived here a long time, which I'm assuming a lot of you have, you're seeing Temple and this whole entire area go through a massive growth. and they're, you know, like it or not, and some of us not, but it is where we're at. People from Austin, Georgetown are selling their homes, moving down this way or from the other direction. And Temple is going to continue to grow. And some of those things are great, some of those things are hard. Um, I'm sure I'm looking at the police out here, I think they're a lot busier today than they were 15 or 20 years ago. And a lot of things have changed. And one of the things that I think um Christina and you know all the PNC staff uh Erin um and and the city manager's office, one of the big goals is to making sure that we have things in place. So therefore, when we do continue to grow, we don't make a bigger problem than we might have now. Not saying we do, but we're constantly working to make this city better. And let me say all of these commissioners up here, this is a volunteer job. Number one. Number two, we're here because we

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love this city and we've been a part of this city anywhere from few years to 55, 60 years, maybe more. At the end of the day, we're here to recommend to city council um going forward what the next step is. We want to hear your concerns. It was As Christina mentioned on January the 13th uh at the train depot, I was amazed at I was there for both of those presentations. We had to split the presentation up and do it twice. Christina and her team did because there were so many in attendance and so that was a great thing to see everybody involved. I think once the public notice or the thing that you got in the mail, a lot of those things are required by law to let you know. And so sometimes it can be misconceived or mis construed about what it was meant. All of this is meant and I think the commissioners and I'm let them talk if they have any comments. All of this was, you know, sent out in the legal and correct way. But at no time, and I'm just going to re, you know, make sure everybody understands, this is not to take away your current property rights. It's not to take away your homes or change anything at your home. It's to help you improve on your home and its value. If one day you decide to sell or if you decide to do something else with your house and you might, you know, want to look at a carport or a mother-in-law house, um, and if it fits on your lot and it can work, then the city, it it opens up the door for the city to be able to approve those things more. And, um, correct me if I'm wrong on anything, please. Um, and you know, there's not going to be any HOA fees or anything like that. You hear a bunch of subdivisions that have HOAs and there's plenty in the city of Temple with all the growth that we've

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had. Those have certain HOA rules and there's that's totally different from what maybe where you live today. And that's not what this is trying to create. What it's trying to create is some standards to say we want to make this city look better as we continue to grow because we are not going to slow down the growth. Folks, I'm sorry. that is what your goal is, it's not going to happen. Um, and you know, it's people people enjoy the smaller town communities and you know, I look at I'm for an example Georgetown. Georgetown, it is amazing how Georgetown has grown and Georgetown almost seems like it's a part of Austin. And I'm not going to tell you that that won't happen in Temple eventually. It's gonna There's good things that come with it. You know, I don't want to say five McDonald's, but I'll say, you know, three Chick-fil-As, uh, you know, if you haven't heard, we're getting a u thing Cheddar's restaurant is being built right now. Lots of things going on and some are good, some are not, and I get that. And but I wanted to make sure that everybody realizes that all of this is done with the intent of making this city better. And I commend Christina and Belinda and a lot of the city staff uh that have worked very hard on this uh program to make sure that we are set up for the future of what's going to be happening in Temple whether we want it to or not because Temple is going to grow. And I know there's a lot of concerns with city streets and uh you know roadway improvements. All of those things are a consistent thing that the city's working on. I can guarantee you um I don't mind saying I live on Kegley Road, you know, the racetrack of you know and it's been shut down for a

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little over two and a half years and I'm not excited about it opening back up. It's been kind of nice where I can get to my house without a lot of craziness, but it's going to open back up and it will become a speedway again. And I hope my friends here in blue will help stop that a little bit. But it's part of growth and um and it's happening and um exciting, but it's also tough. And I get that. And so I'm gonna That was a little long. I'm sorry, but commissioners, any comments toward Miss Strickland's uh presentation? I I do have a question. Christina, could you go back to those those renderings? I was looking for it on my side, but I can't I can't seem to to see it. That one?

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No, the Yes, those back back. Another one. Sure. That one. I can hardly hear. Let me switch over. It's the the single family house that you've got in there. It notes that front garages should be less than one-third of the front building facade. Is that is that something that's now included with this?

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So, yes. So, we do want um garages if there is front parking that it it takes up less than um 40 well I think it's less than 50% of the front uh face and parking should be behind the front build wall. So, this is actually a rendering from one of our neighborhood planning uh documents that fits love where you build. It doesn't fit it maybe 100%, but it was really just intended to visualize and conceptualize what um a model block could look like with single family homes and duplexes neighboring side by side. Um really also to kind of show that parking and how it can be achieved without being a parking taking up the entire front facade of the the home.

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Sure. So, just to make sure that I'm I'm on the same page. So, once if this overlay goes into place, somebody submits permits for, you know, standard three-bedroom, two bath house with a twocar garage, that design must incorporate a garage that takes up less than 50%. And is it is there a footage requirement behind the front build wall or is it just behind? Be a foot, be five foot, doesn't matter as long as it's behind. Um, all parking is to be at least 10 feet behind the front build wall. All parking to be at least 10 foot behind front. Okay, good. Once again, if you have a home that is more than one/3 now, that doesn't affect you. It doesn't affect your current home.

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Great. Thank you, chair. None of this is retroactive. This is just going forward.

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Okay, commissioners. Any other comments or questions before we open it up? Um, I've lived in Temple almost all my life. I live right there in Midtown, older neighborhood. I haven't moved in over 50 years. So, we're talking about neighbors and older homes and and and looking at the area. And I'm just I'm excited about the opportunity that we can have some flexibility to upgrade those neighborhoods and our neighbors uh if we if we so choose. Um, it gives us it's not restricting us as as it has before. So, I think um looking at this is I'm excited about the opportunity for a lot of our neighbors that uh that live in the area that maybe want to to add on to have their mother-in-law live there. In fact, one of the houses across the street that I that live in the neighborhood, they have a mother-in-law apartment right across the street. So, that was way back when and now we're able to do it again if that's something that people in the neighborhood would like to have or to add on a carport. Um it's it's nice to see the neighbors with the sidewalks and being able to know your neighbor neighbors without all the cars in front of you anymore. So there just a lot of options that this gives us. Uh it doesn't demand it doesn't take away. In fact, they're just really flexible. So I want to commend the city for uh giving us that opportunity to look at what we can do as a neighbor and to kind of upgrade our own neighborhood and and make it home again. Thank you, Commissioner.

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All right, commissioners. Anything else? All right, so and now what I'm going to do, I'm going to This case requires a public hearing. We'll now open up the public hearing. Um, if you wish to speak on this case, please come to the podium. State your name and address, your full name and address. Uh, for the record, please keep your comments to three minutes. And as I told you earlier, we're going to have a threem minute timer. And since the the amount of crowd that we have, I'm I will have to keep you to about three minutes. And um and please uh understand that we want to make sure your voices are heard. Now, there were some signup sheets outside before we started. So, what I'm going to do now, out of respect for those that did sign up, um if you didn't sign up, it doesn't mean we're not going to let you talk. We're still going to ask you, but I'm going to go through this list. And if you are here and would would like to speak again, please come to the podium and state your name and address for the record. Uh, the first one I have on the record is Brad Williams, Kathy Woods.

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Yes, if you can please come to the front.

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My name is Kathy Woods. I live at 214 South 21st here in Temple. And my concern was with this mailing. One of my concerns is the mailing says that you are being mailed this uh because you live with two within 200 feet of the proposed change. Well, I don't just live within 200 feet. I live in. So the the mailing is misleading because if I what I read it, it makes it sound like I live adjacent to I don't live in it. I live, you know, it makes it sound like I live 200 feet of it. And that's not the case. I live in it. The other another thing I had an issue with, and I haven't gotten an example yet, is the state law requires that you have to put in there that you may lose the uh ability to use your property the way you're using it. Now, no one has been able to give, they just tell me the state law requires we have to put that in there. No one will give me an example of, you know, what that could look like, what would cause that, why did they why did the state require you to put that in there? There's got to be a reason. What could uh trigger the ability of losing the use of your property the way you're using it now? Nobody will tell me an example of it. Uh uh they said twice in the presentation that this is for the near future. If this is the for the near future, what is the long plan? What's the long game? We we live in an area where there are a lot of houses in disrepair and and we would like to see the property developed and you know, but we don't want to just see all rentals go in there. And right right now, we'll have 12 rentals go in to one

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single family home. So, it's lopsided and and it it seems like this is making it easier for developers to come in, grab the property, and turn it all into rentals. And I I don't want to see that happen to our property. I don't want to see that happen to the single family areas. Another problem I have is ours is single family. It's colored yellow on your map. Across the street, it's colored yellow. It's single family. But on the overlay across the street from us, right in front of us, the overlay goes to NC3. So that means are they going to go across the street from us where we all have single families and build an apartment complex across the street from us? NC3 would allow that. I don't want to see that happen. So I don't can't think of anything else. That's just off the top of my head. The things that I was you want to see the property developed. And I know there's a lot of houses and properties that are in bad condition and people have to be kind of some people have to be kind of pushed to do something about these properties that are in bad condition. So,

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well, and let me say it again, we're not pushing anybody to change what they currently have. Now, if there is something that is out of compliance code, then that's on uh our compliance department and we've got to work on that. If you call in a comment to our compliance department, we've got to be better at following up with that. I don't want to see though that you this the city comes in and condemns a bunch of properties and uh then they come in and tear them down and put a lean against them and then the developers all come in and put in a bunch of rentals everywhere. Correct.

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I don't want to have that happen. I want to see people to be able to build houses and the residential areas stay residential and you know some a mix I can understand. But, you know, I don't want to see a all rentals and just, you know, a very small amount of uh single family, you know, homes. Okay. Thank you, Christina or Kyle. I want to get y'all to address those couple of comments because that might make some other folks realize.

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Yes. The specific wording that's being referred to about the you may lose your uh right to use the property as it's currently used is in the local government code section 211.006. It's required to be all caps bold 14point font those exact words. What I believe it means because I'm not the legislature I don't know exactly what they mean so I can only surmise is as as she discussed in the case of redevelopment for example you are tearing your house down want to rebuild something different that would be the only case where you might lose the ability to use it if it didn't fit the base zoning as it was currently then the use isn't going to be allowed when you're redeveloping, but that base zone is already there. So, it's already in in that case would be illegally non-conforming use. Um, or if it didn't meet the setback standards, you might not be able to build it exactly where it was, exactly in the same footprint,

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right? But, but you would still be able to use with this program. The setbacks are actually more lenient, are they not? I mean, so pretty much, you know, when you worry about,

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you know, am I going to be able to do what, you know, is it going to mess with what I already have? No. The the code that's already there is more strict than the code that's coming in. So, um, it it shouldn't affect you in a negative way. uh except as you said um you know the possibility of a developer coming in or or even just a builder saying hey I'm I'm going to develop these three lots and they're going to be rental properties. I don't know that there's anything you can do about that even now. It's just with this uh with this in play that those those requirements that are already in place become a little more lenient um for It's but it's also gonna it

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it's also going to make it much easier for the young couple who can't afford to go buy in an HOA where they cost2 $300,000 to to find a lot in a in a nice great place with great neighbors to come and build a home and actually have plans set aside uh to say, "Hey, here's some options for you." Um, it it kind of brings that that into play as well. So, thank you. And I only say that because I have a I have a daughter and a son-in-law with a baby on the way and and I I think, man, this would be great for them. You know, I want them to have neighbors like you. So,

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so, and then really just to add on top of that, so the city of Temple cannot and does not control home ownership versus rentals. We're not encouraging rentals, if you will. We are encouraging love where you build is residential infill development but residential infill development may not all be single family development. It doesn't fit everybody's needs and it doesn't fit everybody's stage of life. We don't have a control over if a developer comes across the street and buys those parcels and they develop it to the code. What we do have some control over though is setting some standards and putting some standards in place. And that is what this program is intended to do. Remember, right now our current rule book doesn't have these standards. So, if you're if the base zoning across the street allows a a commercial development or a multipplex development or any kind of other what may be perceived as an undesirable development, that's still allowed by right. We're just saying, okay, if you're going to build it and you're going to put this here, you have to put it here within these standards. Now, you have standards. So, while it may encourage other builders or other developers, it discourage some as well that maybe it doesn't fit their product style. So, it it's kind of a that is our long range plan is we are trying to look at all of our neighborhood planning districts and um take everything into account that we've heard through those neighborhood planning efforts and build and cultivate a program that is cognizant and respective to those built environments because as chair Rhodess mentioned earlier development is coming and we are very very well aware of that. I'm a long range planner. That's that's my outlook. So, we want to put things into place that when it does come, it comes in a way that is more respectful to the the already built environment. Um, and I know this is a public hearing, so I'm going to

1:19:25 – 1:19:500

if the site lends itself to it, but it doesn't mean that it's going to happen. Remember, NC overlays. This doesn't this doesn't happen unless it can actually fit and unless there's somebody who wants to build that NC3 is still appropriate for single family detached homes as well. It's just allowing more flexibility because these are on major major thorough affairs or

1:19:48 – 1:20:150

so what I'm what I'm also doing is I'm making a note on by your name for [clears throat] Christina to be able to give you a call and look at the overlay off of South 21st and what's adjacent to you to see if that we could, you know, look at that and just make sure and she could kind of clarify that a little bit more. Yes, sir. Okay.

1:20:22 – 1:22:190

My name is William B. Woods. I live at 214 South 21st Street and we do have a drainage issue over there. I noticed you while ago you talking to a developer about drainage and if that drainage is kept clean and all, we have no issue. But lately it's been equipment's broke down. that's been broke down for two years, three years. The I've never heard of a uh animals building uh dams in the drainage that we have. But that's what they keep saying. I've heard every excuse why they can't clean that drainage out. I've been working with them and working with them and working with them. Uh that is a vital drainage for that whole area. HB, the high school, all that area that water drains down there. I had to get the federal government to come in here and tell the railroad to clean it out on the pipes. The drainage ditch is not clean. They mowed it and it's fell in. It's odor from it rotten. And they won't clean it out. You always have an excuse. It's too wet. It's this. It's that. All you need is a back hole, a big back hole. But that's too expensive according to them. And who are you calling when you're calling, sir?

1:22:16 – 1:22:440

I'm talking to the drainage people. And then I had to go to uh the uh Oh, okay. Well, one thing I will tell you for Christina will call you and your wife and um and talk about the NC3 issue. Also, she will make sure to bring that up. Erin, correct me if I'm wrong. She'll make sure to bring up the drainage issue. One last thing,

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okay? these buildings of these new homes and stuff. I've noticed that they're trying to close them down between the buildings. I'm an old firefighter. That's dangerous. Especially twotory. You can't get a ladder in there, get enough deal to where you can handle that line up there without it blowing back on you. It's dangerous to the people living in that home. It's dangerous to the firefighters. I have worked those kind of places on 8th Street years and years and years ago back in the 60s and they're all gone today, but they fought a bunch of fires over there. That's my last comment. I'd like to see somebody do something about the drainage, especially before they do any building.

1:23:32 – 1:24:010

Okay. Thank you. And thank you, sir. I appreciate it. All right. And now we're going to move to Jesse Hall. If you are still here and would like to speak, please come forward. Or do you need a mic? You're good. Okay. The next one is Shirley McGranderson or Granderson. Okay. Thank you.

1:23:58 – 1:24:350

Thank you, ma'am. Regina Sel, please come forward. State your name and address for the record. And just to let everybody in the audience know, in the event that you have any additional questions or concerns that are not related to the love where you build topic, we do have some TTX connect cards where you can reach out to additional if you have questions or concerns not related to this. So, sorry sir, please.

1:24:33 – 1:25:530

Okay. I'm JC Hill. I live in 1914 South 11. I have been here in Temple over 50 years. I come from Rosebud and I think this is a great city to live in. My my wife is Regina Soell. We have different names, but we are married. And I just want to say if this pass then we can go ahead and add on to our house. Can we can we add a room onto our house? Can I tear down my old shed and build a new shed there? I mean that that's going to be very dependent on your lot, but this overlay lends itself to making that easier for you to do. So, there's certain lot coverage requirements that the city currently has, which Christina, they're 50% currently. And if you are, depending on which overlay you're in, so if you're in an NC1 overlay, which if it's a single family house, more than likely that's what you're in, it would give you an additional 5% of lot coverage that you would be able to use. So, this overlay would very much lend itself to you being able to either add onto your home or tear down your old shed and put up a new one. Yes, sir.

1:25:50 – 1:26:160

Okay. That's all that's all I wanted to know. Okay, great. Thank you, sir. All right. Um, moving on to the next Hey, real real quick. Sorry, Commissioner. Can you um speak a little bit just kind of based on that, how this program will help with the permitting process as well? Is that

1:26:14 – 1:26:570

Sure. So, the permitting process right now um that we've improved and and expedited, if you will, is pretty specific to the city approved plan sets. Um we we have a really great permitting team um in the building division in planning and development. The the staff is exceptional at helping anybody who wants to pull a permit on working through that process. Um it's all a kind of an online process which can be, you know, new and cumbersome if you've never done it, but that the staff there is is absolutely great. But the expedited process, if you will, is really uh specific to city approved plan sets. Um, yes, sorry.

1:26:54 – 1:28:540

Okay. The next one on the list is Mike Larson. If you're still here and have comments, please come forward. I'm Michael. I live at 3709 Hoppy Trail Temple and uh the item on the u whether or not you may lose your property. That was one of my concerns and that's been covered. Um another another one I had was we used to live on uh West Thompson Avenue and we had a house there that was falling apart. We were getting ready to sell. Uh, I I notified code compliance, but I didn't I didn't uh create an account. So, when I did, it went in as an anonymous, but I gave them my information so they could contact me, but I never got contacted. So, I went to my city council rep, Jessica Walker. She contacted code compliance, and it was in reference to this house that really should have been demoed before I asked. Um it's 412 West Thompson. The house is uh well at that time that the code compliance said we'll come back, we can mow, but there was a a tree that was rotting. They said they couldn't do clean up for the branches or anything. So it was still an eyes sore in the neighborhood. Eventually it got we moved. It's been knocked down. Now what I'm hearing neighbors, old neighbors there is the house being built looks like it's oversized for the lot. So that's just something I wanted to to put

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in was it just from the street looking at the house being it's under construction right now. Uh it looks too big for the lot and it's just the house. There's no carport, no garage that I can see. Um that was on that one. Um, the other item I wanted to ask about was uh that building for Temple College and uh the workforce and visual visual arts on Avenue U and uh 31st Street on that corner and I'm sure it's not new, but that old bus stop, I don't know if there's any way to get that thing fixed or paved. It's It's right there across from from the hospital on uh Scott and White on that corner and it's where that uh it's where this uh it's where this that new building went up for Temple College.

1:29:54 – 1:30:330

Okay. And can you I mean if somebody I have pictures of it and I can leave them with you if you can give them to Miss Strickland there and um it's not her department but she'll get it. Mr. Deckman, he can make sure to follow up with code compliance and find out what's going on. Yeah, that'd be great. And then I wrote down the 412 West Thompson Street. Yeah, it would be just something to look at. Okay. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Presentation. That was very helpful. Thank you. Thank you. All right. The next one on the list is Joe Munoz. If you are still here and would like to make comments, please come forward.

1:30:34 – 1:32:330

There you go. My name is, [clears throat] excuse me, my name is Joe Munos. I live at 109 South 49th Street here in Temple. I've been around Temple. I guess I started coming around here in 64 and uh got married in ' 65 and we've been here since except for the time I spent in the Navy. I guess the biggest concern was when it hits you. It's just like uh a patient going to a doctor and the doctor's going to tell that patient you had cancer. Well, it always it always should require two people to go. Somebody a good friend of yours, relative, husband, wife, or whatever because the patient doesn't hear anything but cancer. And that being said, you have to have someone there that's really listening. And I guess what hit me, what brought me to saying this is that it says what this gentleman was trying to explain, but I really didn't get a thorough explanation. The city of Temple is holding a mir that will determine whether you may lose the right to continue using your property for its current use. Please read this notice carefully, which I have. still doesn't bring anything up. This young lady here, you have said it yourself, it has nothing to do with taking the rights that I have on that property right now. So, yes, it's like we're eating cancer here to me. It's not explanatory. Okay. And that that's what I'm getting at. So, supposedly where I live and I have two houses, one right across the street from each other. My daughter lives in one. very fortunate to get and I understand what you're going through.

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Uh does it mean that I have nothing to worry about? I can continue living in my home that I've been since 74

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and nothing's going to happen. I understand the the things that they're bringing up, you know, as far as making uh excuse me, making it more easily or accessible to get permits and to allow a person. Hey, I love that. I deal with permits down here. Fantastic people down there. Also want to compliment the city for finally getting some roads fixed because we've been beautifying Temple and that's a hell of a deal to to beautify the outskirts of Temple to bring people in here as we spoke and then let them drive through some streets that they got to get the front end alignment fixed before too long. I mean, seriously,

1:33:23 – 1:33:390

why bring them in here if we're not taking care of our infrastructure because that's only going to do is modify and beautify this great town of Temple. And I love Tim. Thank you, sir.

1:33:37 – 1:34:260

Well, I definitely your comments are heard and it it's sad that the attorney actually knows the section, the everything and 14 font and all of that, but we'll we'll let him say that. But as we said and Christina, I don't know, you know, if we can make one of the comments that I know the letter was confusing and I read it and it it definitely was confusing and unfortunately the state of Texas says we have to say things in a certain way, but as uh as we stated, there is nothing that's going to affect where you are at currently today and what you're doing. And so that's and as far as making the roads better, that is I'm glad you you made the comment that you've seen some improvement with that. I'm going to say and look her in the eye and look at Aaron Smith and say continue to work on that because we've got

1:34:25 – 1:34:380

I see it. I I can actually see streets being repaved and all that. It's it's great. I love it. Great. Thank you for those comments.

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If I may, um we're largely just an advisory panel. We recommend action, but we're not city council. We're not taking any action here. Um, and I would ask Kyle, if you could, could you get an interpretation from legislation and maybe present that at the next city council so it would be more clear because it is very intimidating to receive, you know, some some legal jargon and I don't know how to interpret it. I'm not an attorney. Um, so could you get an interpretation from legislation and present that to the public at city council? Uh yeah, I I believe I'll be at the city council for this as uh as will the city attorney and uh so we can definitely explain that at that time probably during the presentation.

1:35:190

Sounds good.

1:35:340

That that just means that your base zoning is Um, so

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very very misleading ladies. I'm retired now. I' got time. bigger reasons. I agree. Thank you for that. You sound like the right kind of person to get involved.

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All right. The next one on the list is Marietta Kendros. I believe that's what I'm reading. Kindred. Okay, thank you ma'am for coming. Uh, the next one is Jose Soliss. Still here and would like to speak. Seeing none. And then let me go to the next page. Robert Sherwood, you're still here. Please come forward. [clears throat] My name is Robert Sherwood. I live at I own property in the city of Temple at 901 East Garfield. And like everybody has said, you see the big bold font at the bottom that's so-called required by law, but that's the only thing people see. Can't you just make it a little smaller and big? Well, and another thing, you send out 10,000 letters to people and you have a spot that'll only hold like 300. That's not very good planning on your part. And if your house burns down, let's just say the house burns down, do you have to build to what they want or can you build it back the way it was before it burned down? Yeah.

1:38:02 – 1:39:080

So, we have right now the rule in our UDC that in the event that a structure is no longer used the way that it's used or if it is um burn like if it burns down or if it's demolished, it has to conform to the current zoning rules. That's already a law in our you or a rule in our unified development code. Level you build is no different. So, anytime that you're in a a base zoning, any kind of an overlay, you are required to adhere to those standards, whether it's new development or redevelopment. So, in the event that a structure is uh burnt down, it would be required to conform to the new standards. That would mean setbacks, um site organization standards, etc. You don't have to use a city approved plan set. You can, but you're not required to. But you would be required to um adhere to those those standards and setbacks. And in reality, these are all infill development areas. And this infill development overlay is comparable to what you already see and have in these neighborhoods as it is. Please go ahead.

1:39:05 – 1:39:500

So, god forbid you did lose your structure in a fire, you would have more flexibility with this plan than without it. Understood. But if the insurance company says your house is worth $80,000 and the city says you have to build one that's $150,000. Yeah. But I mean, I'm just saying it could happen. I mean, it's just it just boggles my mind the way I don't want Temple to turn into North Austin. Yeah. Well, I mean, everything's coming this way. You already said that people are coming from Austin and Round Rock and Georgetown and they're going to turn this place into a little Austin and we don't want that.

1:39:49 – 1:40:260

That's why we're putting these things in in place to make that where there's the limitations. But also I I will say, you know, if your house was when you purchased at Garfield, it was worth $80,000. I guarantee you today your value is going to be much higher than that. And so all of these plans that the 24 plans, there would be one that would fit your needs. I mean, but then you'd have to redo all the concrete work. You'd have to redo all the septic, all the water lines. Everything will have to be nothing's grandfathered in anymore. You got to update everything to

1:40:24 – 1:41:040

It wouldn't be grandfathered in anyway. So the U the UDC as it is um no matter what your house is right now, if it were to burn, it would have to fall within the UDC for you to rebuild it. The UDC, right? These this set is more flexible than the UDC's. So it would it would give you more options as far as how you'd want to build it. It's not going to restrict you. It's actually giving you more options. You would actually have less as the UDC is now. If your house burns, you still have to rebuild it within the UDC now already, no matter what. That's I just want to be clear.

1:41:02 – 1:41:460

Okay. And another issue that I have, it seems like Far East Temple has no code enforcement. I know there's cars that are sitting in people's driveway that I'm sitting there three, four, five months, even years, and nobody's doing anything in Far East Temple to clean that up. I mean, you want people to live here, but if they go out East Adams going towards Satan or wherever out that way, they see cars that are sitting there for months and years and code enforcement doesn't seem to do anything in East Temple like they do Central Temple, West Temple, South Temple, you know, the all the Flucy neighborhoods.

1:41:44 – 1:42:290

Have you have you turned those in via TTX Connect? I haven't. So, unfortunately, I didn't know we had to do that. law enforcement guy drives down the road and sees cars that have been sitting there for months and years not running, not registered, not and even in backyards. So, unfortunately, code enforcement is is reactive and not proactive. So, they are swamped as it is. They have more cases than I could ever care to imagine. So, unless somebody makes a complaint, they do not actively police anything at this time. Christina is going to give you a card for U. You got one. You got one. If they answer the phone. Oh, that's an app. So, it's an app. You can put in your

1:42:26 – 1:43:000

You can put in your information ticket. This um primarily for I would recommend reach out to code enforcement and you can address you can address those concerns. I don't know if I talked to you or not. On West Adams, I had homeless people So let's if you don't mind if you would like to speak. Yeah. So then then again, what was I gonna say? I got confused.

1:43:02 – 1:43:340

I I own a property. I own several properties in Temple. And I really can't sell them for what they're worth because people come in and say, "Well, that house is only 1500 square feet and it's D and I mean what I paid for him doesn't matter. What I want for it because I own it is but if I have to rebuild it to what you want it what they want it to be

1:43:31 – 1:44:140

and we're not see I understand but just the biggest problem was the boldfaced statement at the bottom of the page and then when you call that phone number nobody answers the phone during the day. I got the letter in the mail called the phone number. Nobody answered the phone. Well, definitely the u the a few issues that the officer gave you his card. I appreciate you doing that and we will follow up with those. Erin, can you come forward? Can you answer like for the whole dascese like anything your thoughts on code enforcement? Is that under your department or

1:44:12 – 1:45:000

uh No, it's not. But of course, I work with multiple departments citywide and they part of a big part of our neighborhood planning team. Um so um and as Christina has these cards, our TTX connect I would highly recommend. I have done it. I'm a citizen of Temple. I have utilized it as a citizen. They don't know who I am. They're incredibly responsive. Um that is a good way to um let them know if you have any complaints, whether it's your garbage service or street repair condition or code enforcement type issue. But um as um Commissioner Lo said, I And unfortunately because of the size of our city and the number of cases that they have, they are a little bit more reactive and and but they are very responsive and I assure you they will look into it right away if you submit that.

1:44:58 – 1:45:370

So if somebody needs a card, Christina has those and um also I can car guarantee you that Erin will make that comment to the person that is in charge of that department. It is a reactive thing, but we'll continue to work on that um because we want to make things better and so the more you speak up, the more we hear and the better things will get and be. All right, thanks. Thank you. Um, next one on the list is Karen Win.

1:45:31 – 1:46:560

Okay, thank you. Uh, Anna Mendoza, you're still here and would like to speak. Seeing none, um Joanne Dudley, please come forward. State your name and address for the [clears throat] Hi, my name is Joan. Sorry, my name is Joan Dudley. I live at 1309 East Central. Uh my house abuts um the old Emerson Elementary uh schoolyard which is uh one of the fields that is uh on the block for getting uh redeveloped and I've gone to a number of the meetings and I get um told different things each time I go to a meeting which is totally confusing. Um, in the meeting I went to the other night, you said NC1 was one and two bedrooms. Now you're saying it's just a single family home. So it could be three and four bedrooms also or just one and two.

1:46:540

Neighborhood conservation overlay. Okay.

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Okay. because that was confusing because on East Central it's three and four bedrooms and I was like if you're putting one and two against three and four bedrooms you're down you're you're decreasing our property values and another thing is is looking at the map the way you're putting the you're putting the houses really close in those lots [clears throat] now Temple is prone to to droughts Texas is prone to droughts Um, you have Wilson Park that has a big forest. East Central is all trees. Um, East um, Avenue C is all trees. If we light up our pit to barbecue or my neighbor lights up his pit to barbecue, here comes fire department. Are you barbecuing or is there a fire? Um, if you if the if East Central lights up there, East Avenue C lights up their barbecue pit, they do the same thing. How are you with the houses so close? I'm pretty sure you're going to have the the the wooden fences in between each house. How are you going to avoid having any LA fire here? You know, one fire and one house going house to house and everything like that. Well, I I don't you know, in your current I'm looking at your address right now, looking at your home. You know, I understand what you're saying about the the if things were to redevelop and they would bring them closer together.

1:48:44 – 1:49:160

I I don't think, you know, unless you're planning to rebuild, you know, and knock your house down, I I don't think you're going to have that issue. But when you go to current neighborhoods today, new neighborhoods that have HOAs and stuff, I wonder the same thing. I live on 15 acres and I wonder how, you know, the houses that I They have more room. Sure. They're not next to each other. They're not They're not touching each other. And what you're talking about is really close, right?

1:49:14 – 1:49:520

So So lot lot sizes are just recommendations. I I'm well aware of the lot that you're speaking of behind you. I'm not sure if it's been transferred to TRC yet or if TISD still owns it, but that that would be up to the developer. The city's going to have a base set of guidelines and that's what this is part of and that is going to estab establish lot sizes but no design plans in the houses are established by that. That will be up to the developer. Okay. We have a drainage ditch a man-made drainage ditch behind our house that we've been maintaining. Okay. Is that going to stay?

1:49:50 – 1:50:340

I would imagine so. if it's currently being used for the drainage on all those properties on the the south side of East Central, whatever developer decides to do something with that old TISD lot is is going to have to ensure appropriate drainage. And when it goes through the platting process with the with the planning department, that is one of the the main things that they ensure is that proper drainage is established. Okay? Because I've been getting different different things. So, you don't need it because they're going to do the drainage on the lot. Oh, you're g we're gonna build it in. Uh I've I mean every meeting I've gone to has been a Yeah. And the planning department does a great job of that. That is that is one of their highlights that they make sure that they hit those drainage points because

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the aerial view. If if if somebody does buy that big lot, then they would be required to make sure the drainage is correct. Yeah. It's actually federal law. It's called an SWPP, a storm water prevention plan. and the federal government requires them to assess that and it has to be signed off from professionals that the government says is a professional in that. So it's a whole big thing. So you can't develop that size land without doing that

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because everybody on on our street is like what are you guys doing? Nobody's because all the meetings we go to is oh we're going to do this. No, no, you're not going to do this. No. It's like our heads are spinning. We're like are we going to are we going to stay or we going to what you know we don't want to sell our house we've made that note so thank you for that comment okay uh the next one on the list is Arthur T Lewis

1:51:42 – 1:53:200

God bless everyone Arthur Lewis, 710 Bucker Hill Drive. Just want to say it's awesome that we get a chance to participate and uh thank all of y'all for making this happen, you know, cuz progress is going to take place. I already know it. I might not be in agreement with all of it, but I already know it. And and I say that um because back in 1999 had a residence uh constructed and um across from us, you know, those of us that lived there, it was an older neighborhood. It was a open lot, open field and it was zoned uh commercial. Well, in a matter of 10 years, uh next thing we know, it was all filled in with duplexes. And of course, property value up to that time was increasing, but once those duplexes got over there, maybe $8,000 drop, you know. So to me, a home is an investment, you know. So hopefully, you know, whatever is taking place, you know, would increase, you know, people's spending power, buying power. This was not afforded to me at the time that was taking place uh back there in uh 2010. No city hall, no anything. Next thing we know this thing's going up. Didn't have a chance to address to anybody about it. Uh eminent domain, do that apply at all? And anything that we're discussing here, imminent domain, you mentioned something about the federal um someone's getting involved. You know, it's a federal, you know, so imminent domain do not have nothing to do with this year.

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No, she was she brought up the possibility of a future development. Okay. And that was storm water prevention. And that's federal uh federal related.

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Amen. Um other than that, you know, my personal concern would be the congestion that it's going to be here regardless. It's already here and the traffic, you know, and so we have to see how God works that out because it's going to happen. Um Corporal Glover, if you don't mind, can I speak to you before we leave today? And Miss Strickland, if you don't mind, can I just have a quick word with you before we leave today? Thank you. All right, thank you. Um, that has got everyone call. Yes, that got everyone on the list, but um, we still there are several others here. If you have a comment, please come forward. State your name and address for the record. Neil Neil Diaz, can you hear me?

1:54:19 – 1:55:020

Yes, sir. 11:15 West Avenue. I Temple, Texas 76504 uh real estate broker and uh sounds like a lot of questions I've heard today I've heard from a lot of people in my network friends um from this this uh mail out. Um, but regarding Well, I vote on the um Officer, could you officer, could you pull them out in the hallway?

1:54:58 – 1:56:560

I vote on the um interpretation for the general public. I think that's very important. That's been made a point here today. Um and I think the development sounds excellent. I heard someone with a concern about um or bringing up East Temple. Uh I manage a property on North 12. Regarding that, I do feel that with the progress and wonderful development plans here that uh there are just some coding concerns and concerns in general and it's great to move forward, but I think uh another a vote on that topic is if the city could do anything to uh look in deeper to um I guess more um beautifification if that's for example be behind 515 North12 there's an alleyway there's a lot of uh empty lots and and I've seen and I managed the property right there so I've seen homeless camps I've seen just and even the homes in the area I think uh if you want to move forward excellent but I think there's some things that have just been going on for a long time that could use some attention positive attention. Um, and anyway, that's uh that was just a concern and u I appreciate all the work and all the efforts you all are doing. Again, I think the development sounds wonderful. I just think some things are getting overlooked while there's progress ahead. Um, and I especially applaud you all. Like I said, I've heard a lot of questions that you've all answered. eminent domain. Um, property values

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going down. And I'll I'll tell you all, don't worry. The city's never going to lower your property. Your property value will not be lowered in their eyes. Always fight your property taxes. All right. Thanks. Thank you, sir. Welled. All right, sir. Next one up. Hey, good evening everyone. My name is DJ. Uh, I'm a developer. We acquired a land in about 20 acres of land in 220 North 36th Street. What's your address sir? 220 North 36th Street. Okay.

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So, uh we few years ago and we got some kind of pre preapprovals for about 70s to last a few years ago and uh since then market has tanked and there's no builder to come forward and do any development there. land is sitting the same as like what it has been for the past like many many years. Uh but uh since we got a pre-approval or whatever the you know uh process our taxes went up like three times. So without doing any changes to the land property tax went up by like you know almost three times. I don't know mean there's any any way to remediate that. Um but anyway this is a good u um flexibility at least it's giving more flexibility for people who want to do their what what they want to do with their lands uh with some kind of frameworks and like you know things in place. Thank you for the additional flexibility that we might get. So right now I see like you know my land is zoned as earlier it used to be and now I see NC2. So I mean like I'm sure the way I understand zoning are not single family [clears throat] or single family are not permitted by right and they are noted with this program So many process from NC it's not by default we can assume that since classified as MC2 now we

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cannot get all the well is over city to none of that.

1:59:47 – 2:00:160

Christina, y'all, we're almost out of time for your comment. So, sir, if if right after the meeting, if you'll um get with Christina, she can answer any more questions that you have to that. And property taxes are a huge issue with everybody, unfortunately. And you know, we can't do anything with that via the city, but that's a county thing, but appraisal district.

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Thank you, sir, for your comments. Let's bring the next gentleman up. Please come forward, sir.

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J, my name is J. McBride. I live at 6703 Old W Lane. Uh to be fair, I do not live in any of these districts. I'm just a concerned citizen. Uh initially I came here not really in favor of what these are bringing to the city. Um but the presentation I wasn't able to make the 13th presentation but this presentation definitely definitely changed my mind on it but I still have some questions. Uh so Miss Strickland so initially you said that the infill is going to be the only thing that's going to trigger uh the new NC standard such as access landscaping parking etc. Right? So if somebody were to add a carport add an ADU that doesn't standards standards allow more things,

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right? But it it could require them to bring in additional landscaping if they don't have it already. No. So, sorry. So, landscaping is only

2:01:45 – 2:02:330

Okay, that's that was the question I wanted to that was a big that was a major question. So for some people, I used to sit on this P&Z committee, so I kind of understand a little bit more than what's going on sometimes. Um, next thing is that the NC3. So the the the lady had a concern with NC3 being like right across the street. Um, I don't know if we can pull up the slide that has like where NC3 is kind of designated to. Is it designated to like the major Mr. Deman? I don't know the terms for it but like Avenue M, Avenue H, Third Street, those specific and 25th Street. Are those where those are highly concentrated at?

2:02:28 – 2:02:550

Yes. So NC3 is along your major classificity devel. already. Okay.

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Yeah. I've never I never learn all the way through. So, appreciate that. [laughter] Uh has NC3 [clears throat] taken into consideration, especially when they're near uh I guess NC2, NC1 more residential space. has it taken into consideration inf current infrastructure in recommending these new NC3 potential overlays as far as water line and sewer line is concerned when adding higher density. Yes. So NC3 and when it comes to infrastructure roads and utilities cannot be

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and I'm gonna ask these next three questions so I can stay within my 41 Uh, what is the max estimated number of units on any projected N3 possible lot development that you guys have estimated? Uh, who controls the sidewalks in these neighborhoods? If a homeowner does any changes to their home, carport ADU, does that fall on the homeowner or is that still city responsibility? So, sidewalk.

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Okay. So, somebody wants to add a carport. Are they going to be required to fix this eyewalk at the same time if it's like business if and then taps? Uh were there builders specifically local that you guys work with that homeowners can go to to make this process smoother if they choose to do an infill? And the last question is this is all sorry. Um [snorts] this is all for affordable housing. So, what analysis was done to help provide actual affordable housing? Because again, the city doesn't control rent prices, doesn't control who owns and who rents, but how is this how is this going to get us to more affordable housing other than the fact that some of these lots are fairly cheap.

2:05:06 – 2:06:240

Starting with the affordable housing, this program is intended to address quality obtainable housing. We are not looking entering kind of into the affordability aspect. That's all market driven. Um we are looking at paying homage to these already developed areas and providing quality obtainable housing. Um as far as the sidewalks go, sidewalks um some sidewalks are required to be maintained by the city and some sidewalks depending on where they're located are the property owners um responsibility to manage, maintain, repair, replace, etc. Um as far as a We have it to where a carport can't go so close to the the property line so that it does not interfere with the sidewalk. In the event that somebody wants to tear up the sidewalk in front of their home and it's there, it has to be per our current rules, it has to be repaired or replaced back in its um current alignment and requirement. Um the city does have a myriad of opinions of pro probable costs for sidewalk increases, upgrades, throughout our neighborhood planning districts. Um, just to kind of address that walkability and pedestrian connectors. And I don't remember what your first question was, so I'm sorry.

2:06:22 – 2:07:070

It's Yeah, it's 30. Oh, and then Oh, what? It's 30 units an acre max and NC3. Okay. So, um, that means that if there is a parcel that 30 units, 30. Yeah. So, if there is an acre that I mean, if there is a lot that is an acre, then it can have up to 30 units on it. Again, if the parking can be addressed, if the landscaping can be addressed, if these site organizational requirements can be adhered to, then it can go up that tall, that high, that wide, etc. Um, if it can't fit on the lot, whether it be due to the site organization standards or the utilities, the infrastructure, etc., [clears throat] then that is not the right product for that area.

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Did I answer all your questions? Wonderful. Thank you, Christina. Sir, you're up.

2:07:15 – 2:09:040

Yes. Uh, my name's Abel Ramos and I live at uh 709 North 12th Street, Temple, Texas. But the property I want to talk about is at 703 North 12th Street, which is connected right to the property of Leo. Okay, this 703 property I want to know about if it'll give me the with this which I like the idea this overlay flexibility stuff if it'll give me the flexibility to where I was told I could I could put a a mobile unit for storage like ConX box but then they said that I'd have to put a privacy fence now with this uh by putting up this this storage unit, it would be it would be a mobile unit. It wouldn't be a it wouldn't be a stationary unit. You know, I would decide to still have to get that unit out of there, you know, to get the whole property. Now, thing is uh for us to put this unit on the other side, there's a there's a 100 foot communication center tower right behind me. They have no privacy fence or nothing. And beyond that is that old cardboard manufacturing plant that burnt down. That's not working. Now, why do they want me to put landscaping and beautify my property where I want to place this conduct box where all these other all these people just on the other side of my fence is nothing but a nice one. Okay.

2:09:02 – 2:09:450

So th this is meant to be to be proactive, not retroactive. So all of that stuff has been in place. The cardboard manufacturers been there for years. The the city's not going back and asking them. I'm not I don't care less what they do without building anything. I'm just said I've been told that I if I wanted to put this if I want to put a conx box there for storage, I'd have to uh go landscaping around that box. I'd have to put up a privacy fence and all this where all the other the other businesses or that the communications building or tower they don't they don't have that.

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So if they if they made a change to that communications tower if they decided they wanted to put a conx box for whatever they needed on that property then that requirement would also be in place for them. So this is something moving forward that everybody that wants to to make these changes is going to be required to beautify. So we're we're trying to gather everything together and push it forward to to make people follow these standard. This give me this give me the flexibility to be able to put a mobile unit instead of a stationary unit. you know, in other words, build a garage or just put a

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again, we've got to we've got to start somewhere. And if that tower was to make some kind of changes or the old carport, somebody was to buy that lot, you know, there would be some rules in place for that person and you living at 709, but you also own 703, you've got a pretty big lot. I'm looking at it now

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and the size on the right, not the houses. You you mentioned building a permanent structure like if you wanted to do like an accessory dwelling unit or like a garage apartment, something like that, this this overlay would help you be able to do that. So you could you could make a permanent structure instead of bringing in a ConX box for storage. So if you wanted to do a twocar garage below with an apartment upstairs, then that that is now a possibility with these overlays. So would I have to replot or I don't I don't believe so. Not with the overlay in place. specific.

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Great. Sir, all right. Some great questions. Uh, is there anybody else um here that has not spoken tonight that would like to speak on your property or any concerns? Seeing none, I am going

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Okay. Thank you, sir. All right. Um, I think that I'm going to now officially close the public hearing. Commissioners, any other comments or questions? Seeing none, I will ask for what?

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I do have one question. Yes. Well, what is this presented as? Because it's not like FYI or it's just it's an amendment to the unified development code. So, it'll go forward as an actual amendment. I was going to ask Alec, how do you motion of that? item number. So, so it is a text amendment to the development code. That's why it doesn't have a case number 145 or anything like that or just then I move to uh approve regular agenda item seven as presented. I'll second.

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All right. I have a motion by Commissioner Smith and a second by Commissioner Longo. Can we call for vote, please? I I

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motion carries. Thank you. Um, any other questions or comments, commissioners? With that, I will conclude the meeting and thank you, Miss Strickland, again for your hard work. Thank you, Commissioners. Appreciate your time. [cough] [clears throat] Much fun.

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