City Council - Regular Meeting

If everyone please will stand, we will call this city council meeting to order. We'll wait for Mr. Mickey. At this time, we'll have a moment of silence. Thank you. I will ask Miss Ham if she would lead us the pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you and good evening to each one of you and welcome to Georgetown for our city council meeting for Monday, February 23rd, 2026. We are here to conduct business for the city of Georgetown. If you'll come to the microphone to speak, be sure to pronounce your name for the record and also uh be able to uh have an opportunity to talk to the council. At this time, Madame Clerk, roll call.

Mrs. Wilkins Brent here. Mr. Chris here. Mrs. Ham present. Mr. Hampton. Mr. Minky present. Mrs. Lesie Mitchell here. Mrs. Tingles here. Mr. Stein here. Mayor, if I could before we get started, um I move to place on tonight's meeting agenda after public comments and before mayor's comments an event application for the Fourth of July parade. All right. So, we will put it right under public comments in that spot there. I'll move it in that spot.

Yeah. Before I do that, made a motion and a second. Thank you. Uh, are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor for this addition to be added to the agenda signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. It will be added and we'll add it right uh behind public comments as to your events. All right. Thank you. Um, item number three, approval of the minutes for February the 9th, uh, 2026 city council meeting. At this time, I will entertain a motion. So, move.

Motion made by Miss Ham. Do I have a second? Second. Everybody at the same time. Okay. I'm gonna give it to Miss Sames. Miss SS. uh was uh second. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of this motion signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Item four is the receipt of the check registry. Uh if you have received the council, please raise your hand. Let the record reflect that all who's present received it. Mayor.

Yes. Quick question on on the check register. Um I noticed uh there was a visa payment for $29,000 and I noticed I know in December we had a was about 20,000 but then other months it's a very small amount. So I'm just curious, you know. Okay, Stacy those and Okay. What are they used for?

Uh yes, they're often used for travel, for registration, for conferences. Um, also up until this point, our Microsoft licensing, which is a few thousand dollars a month in and of itself, is also required to be paid by visa. Uh, so depending on the activity of whether they're traveling for conferences and things, it can fluctuate from month to month. Um, we maintain uh two of those at the city hall location and police department has one and fire department has one. Um, so that's what we have right now. They all feed into the same account, but those are where the cards are held. I think our limit is around 50,000, but it can fluctuate monthtomonth. And then sometimes if there's a purchase they need to make that is only online, they'll use it for that. But most of the time, registration, travel, Microsoft are the bulk of bulk of that. Okay.

But I can obviously get the breakdown on those. Yeah. Thank you.

All right. Item number five, public comments. Uh, at this time, public comments. A reminder that when you come, please uh intro put your name or say your name, excuse me, for record. You will have four minutes in which to speak to the council to address any concern. Madame clerk will will time you at the end of and when it gets close to three minutes. She will then let you know that three minutes has elapsed. You will then have one more minute. Then at that time, at the end of four minutes, we ask you that you will take your seat so we may continue on with conducting business here for the city of Georgetown. First, uh uh Mr. Combmes, I'm going to wait on you because you're the event thing for the 4th of July. Uh Mr. Dan Hullman, Dan Hullman, Georgetown. And uh my topic tonight was about uh park process about parks. And so uh one topic on the agenda tonight is um about the a Royal Spring Park and the cabins there. Um so let's talk about that real quick. So there's a sewer project, this large sewer project that's been pl that's been talked about for years as needed and currently it goes down north and south water street. For decades the sewer has run down Water Street and that's probably that's the best place for sewers it seems. um for I'm you know I'm not an engineer so we like it might be someone could ask Chase where is the best place for sewers. You want them to be on streets that are paved and they can support heavy equipment so that you bring your equipment into the manholes and you can m maintain and access the sewer manholes. Uh now sometimes you might need to run it through a grassy space but that's usually not the best option. Uh so in this case there was a decision made and this was kind of more than a year ago and the city council wasn't included on this decision like I don't think that most of you knew about any I

don't know if any of you knew about this a year ago when they decided this. So uh and then other stakeholders so it was decided to take the the sewer off of Water Street and to put it through Royal Springs Park like right through the middle of the back part right through the middle of the Milton Leech cabin. Um and the question is why did they decide to do that? Uh so the only they've stated that would be less disruptive for the businesses on water street. So is that even true in this day and age? Uh there's underground there's like horizontal directional drilling. There's underground trenchless methods. Uh then then one question is do they even ask? So I I've submitted a list of questions related to this by the way and I emailed these and these are also on the Georgetown KY water complaints Facebook page. They're posted there and there's a diagram on the back. Um, I sent all of you of the of the sewer routing that shows exactly where it goes, which is slightly different than you all were shown in November 10th meeting when Chase came and presented this project to you and had you approve the $6 million of funding that this this diagram was not shown to you all. It was an abstract diagram that did not that ran more along the edge of the park. And then it was stated there would be disruptions to the park, but it wasn't stated that cabins, you know, that any significant disruptions. and and nobody did ask a question that day, but so here's some questions. It's never too late to ask. Um, okay. So, so basically, yeah, why why are we doing this? They the only public thing they've said is it's easier on the businesses. If I were a business on Water Street, I would not I would absolutely want Water Street to be dug up and done right for the next 200 years and to not have the park disrupted, which is the reason the businesses are there. They're there because of the historic Royal Spring Water Street area. They can handle a few weeks of a maybe a couple months, whatever it is, of street disruption. That's a question. If I were a business, I'd be like, "Yes, please disrupt the street." I don't know what they'd say or if anyone even asked them. Um,

right. So, that's one of the qu. So, then related. So, that hopefully these questions can be asked. Then, Sanja, you're on the Friends of the Park. I would like if you could answer these questions that would be great. You don't have to agree with them, Mr. Homeman. But I'm sorry. searching for a direct direct.

It would be great if the mayor would sponsor questions that citizens have. I would assume the people's mayor would sponsor questions that the people had, but you you don't uh so related to other parks, uh we we seem to we need to people in this town advocating for parks. The parks and wreck seems to possibly be more on the wreck end of things, which is good, but we need some parks uh attention, too. So, this the legacy trail is a big thing that we just have not talked about for three years. It's supposed to come through Georgetown. Uh, and so I'll wrap this up. You all have this million dollars of money that we're talking about. You'll give it back to the people through taxes or possibly give it back through a capital project. Uh, if this gets voted down on the giving it back to the people through tax re refund, you all should identify a million-doll project that you want to do.

Thank you, Mr. Powman. Thank you. All right. any other that failed to get on the register to sign up for public comments. If not, we're moving on to the next one item which was add on to that was the Fourth of July uh parade uh event. Mr. Tom Combmes is here to talk about that.

Thank you, Mayor Jenkins and council members. So, my name is Tom Combmes. I'm with the Kuanas Club of Scott County and I'm here to request through an application uh uh to allow us to again once again for the 13th year conduct the July 4th parade on Saturday, July 4th. It involved aligning up the parade a military and college streets uh closing Main Street at 11:00 a.m. Uh along the route, there are a couple specified areas where we put up barricades, including at uh Courthouse Square. Uh once again, the American Legion has requested that area to set up uh for displays and so forth uh that day. They also have free hot dogs for the uh crowd that day. But uh uh again it's also requesting for police support uh throughout the parade. Electrical hookup approximately in front of five is where we set this little place where we have the embassy booth and everything but that is my my request. Any questions at this time council and you heard the request do I have a motion?

Motion motion made by Miss SS. Do I have a second? Mr. Chris second. Are there further questions and or comments? Just one question, mayor. Um, all the paperwork that has to go through to Tracy, is that all been done? Yes. Okay. Application. I don't have your insurance. Was attached. Okay. I'll get that to you. Okay. All right. Any other questions? And you will get that to them? Yes. Okay. Uh, any other questions or comments? All those in favor of this motion signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay.

Let the record reflect that it pass. Okay. Thank you. All right. Before we get to Merrick's comments, uh I'm going to move a couple other agenda items up. Uh I'm going to move uh item number eight up, which is Republic service. Since we have Todd here from Republic, he's going to give us an update on that. So Todd,

thank you, mayor, and good evening. Evening, council. Good to see everybody again. Uh again, Todd Prair with public services. I'm the manager of municipal sales. Uh Tim regrets not being here. His flight got delayed. They were on a GMC, whatever those GMs do. So, um they had their annual meeting out in Phoenix. So, anyhow, uh first thing we'll get into is some stats. Uh total cart service 231,568. That includes trash and recycling. This is for quarter 4, I'm sorry, October through December. All right. Uh total calls received 3,850. So a little over almost 2% of people have called in for some sort of call, right? Um most everybody's concerned about is the concern calls. 348 are concern calls. Um, out of those concern calls, you got same day worry calls that we've talked about before. People think that maybe they've been missed or maybe they have been missed, whatever the case is, but they're calling in saying they've been missed. Um, not out calls, that's when the driver comes up to an address and he calls it in and says, "Container's not out at 123 Main Street." All right. Um, and out of all those concern calls, we narrowed down to there was probably actually about 117 missed services for 3 months. So 05%. So not too shabby. Um, compared to where we started out few years ago, right? Um, bulk item calls still real heavy. Um, almost 2,000 bulk items. Um, but we're getting them right. Um, any questions on the stats before we move through? Yes, ma'am.

Um, yeah, we've improved quite a bit. So, thank you. Um, I'm just curious, how do you like give me a definition of why we miss being able to pick up? As as much as I hate to say it, most of the time it's usually there's a a subd driver out here and maybe he's going down the road one way and there's like a a one-way street this way and he forgets a circle back to come back around to it. It's just just not used to the area typically. So, it's usually driver error.

Yes. Yeah. Human error. Correct. Yep. Absolutely. And there's sometimes where, you know, we'll we'll um Gina will email uh in the mayor's office, you know, this street's been blocked. You know, we'll try to come back at the end of the day. Doesn't happen. Whether it's tree service, landscaping, or they're just doing work on the street, that was an attempt to go back at the end of the day. Absolutely. and on those roads. Um, Councilwoman, we actually will come back the next day even if they don't call in because we know that street was blocked. So, that's our our regular guidelines there. Yeah. So, Todd, when of the 117, are any of those duplicates, you know, where they they've missed before?

That is a good question. Tim actually just sent this to me because he planned on being here, so I did not really he was on the plane and didn't really ask him any questions. So, could be could be. Yes, sir. Um, it may be a question, I guess, possibly for Tim, but how do the numbers roughly compare to previous quarters? Is it is everything still improving in your estimation?

Oh, I I think you can ask everybody that's been up on that side right there. It's it's been a a continuous improvement. Now, granted, there was a big jump at one point from things were struggling. We got a lot better. But now it's a it's a slow improvement because it's just I mean these stats are pretty good, right? I mean you can look up there and and they're pretty good stats. You're going to have human error, right? It's still human drivers. We're not autonomous, right? So still going to have the human error sometimes, but I mean me in my position, I'm very happy with these numbers. Now granted, when there's one miss, is there room for improvement? Absolutely. Always room for improvement, but I think these numbers are very good.

Great. And with the subd drivers, I I sort of it sort of sounds like you're not getting as many of those anymore. Is that one of those things? So, it's we have So, at the time, we you know, we would have like the three regular drivers out here and then we'd have one pop in and out. It was kind of like a rotating door. We've had the same four drivers out here for quite some time now. And actually, I'm going to introduce one of them on the on the screen at the end here. Just not I got a little stat about him, too. Okay.

He likes what he does. So, And and to answer your question, from when we started to where we are now, we are leaps and bounds ahead. Um because you know the the service is getting better. Uh the call numbers are going down. So um you know, is it perfect? No. Um you know, there's still a lot of people that'd like for the city of Georgetown to be in it, but it's just not feasible for us to to do that. So with these numbers they are remarkably uh improving. So

So sorry Todd, one more. So with the the technology things that you put into place, do you have any stats on how many people that are actually utilizing those to stay up to date or to communicate and those kinds? I'll see if we can find some stats on that, Kim. I don't know. I don't know if they can do that or not because I think that's a great that's a great countermeasure to be able to to provide additional communication routes, right? Uh and

some of those worry calls of you know, hey, he's just delayed because of whatever. And and I do know, and I'm glad you brought that up, Kim, because I know that I put it out when the weather started hitting everything. But for anybody that has signed up before and is not getting notifications now, they rebooted the system and we're kind of running a different way. Please go back into the system just to make sure you're still checkmarked on how you want to receive notifications, whether that's text, email, or phone call. Next slide. The winter impact. I know Tim lied to y'all last year and said we weren't participating again. Um, but we got blindsided. However, we do feel like it went a lot better this year than it did last year. We kind of got ahead of it with notifications prior instead of day of um pretty instructive on how we were going to do things and what we were going to pick up. Picking up extras. Some people had problems. didn't think we were getting their extras, but they had actually set it back down into the snow to where it froze and we weren't going to pick a bag up, you know, that was frozen and then we got trash everywhere. Um, but we have got everybody cleaned up that had stuff out. Um, but it was challenging. Um, a lot of in the in the commercial areas, and I don't blame them because they got a tough job, too. And not so much the city folks, but the private snow plow guys, they always throw that snow in front of the trash always. And we just can't get to it. So, um, if you ever think about it, remind your business owners, please find another location for that so we can get the garbage out. Next slide. Here's your guy, James Willard. Uh, his daddy's been with us for a long time. um 30 years. Actually, James been with us about three. He actually went through the system we like to promote. So, Republic Services actually has a school at tech uh technician school and a

driver school down in Texas. So, we will hire an apprentice, driver, technician, send them down to school, pay them, put them up room and board, and then they come out and basically can pick where they want to go as long as an opening. Obviously, James wanted to come back here. Thank goodness. Um he's done a great job. Um, he loves interacting with the kids. And this picture, this is actually him giving a and I can't read it from here, but he's actually given a present, a birthday present to one of the kids on Can't read the name of the street. There you go. So, um, and it's a a model truck of one of our garbage trucks. So, that is James, and he's one of your permanent drivers. And that's really all I got tonight, mayor.

All right. Any questions? I just want to say thank you for coming and keeping us up to date. Absolutely. You know, it helps us in the community um to be able to talk to people and you know, whenever someone's missed, it is a big problem to them, but um the communication that y'all gave during the um I know you had to change some things at the end, but um I appreciate knowing what was happening and being able to share that to help people. I'm glad it was helpful. I really do. Thank you guys. Good to see y'all again.

Mayor, as I told him while he was sitting over there, this is the first time since I've been back on council that they've been here that I haven't been the one giving them the hard time. So, the complaints have gone way down.

All right. Thank you. We're going to also move up another item uh out on the agenda. We're going to go with 12A. Uh so if you look on 12A which is talking about the municipal order for the city hall change order number 18. Uh they are here today to talk about that and give us some information on that. So So we want to and we'll let y'all come up and go from there. Good evening everybody. Elizabeth Hunt, Florida Sergeant. I think you guys know me well enough by now. Got paid with Kodell here.

Um, cut you off.

Oh, no, you're fine. Um, so tonight we have change order 18 to present to you all which, um, I believe you were given a heads up about some of it at the last council meeting. We have some additional information this evening. Um this change order includes the added shoring and steel that was needed for the um structural stabilization in the mayor's office. Uh it also included some uh modifications to one of the steel beams in the rear stair tower. We have uh some mechanical louver work that needs to be sort of reworked um to make sure that is not in a window opening but rather in the the wall itself. We have an allowance in here for some adjustments to window trim casing. That is sort of a max not to exceed. So once that work is complete, there could be a chance for some of that allowance to come back um to the city. There is um some additional structural repairs for the mezzanine that was found after the abatement done to the mezzanine in the mayor's office um and some associated repairs with that. And um then unfortunately after the costs were presented to you all before we ran into a small issue in the alley. Um I feel like it's forever an issue with the alley over there every time we dig and find something. We started the excavation for the um water line for the fire department connection and um found a gas man in the middle of the alley which had actually been located per Columbia gas under the sidewalk on the other side of the alley. It turns out there are two mains that run through there and we did not have any indication that it was there prior to getting started. As a result of that,

the excavation um can be done, but it has to be done differently. And I can let Kate explain that um probably better than I can. Um but that has had a a significant added cost than what we had planned on with this change order originally.

Just just to piggyback off of Elizabeth, um we'll be utilizing a back truck. So, we'll take an excavator, get the first layer asphalt off, and then the back truck will suck everything out. So, we have some clearances that we have to stay away from the gas line. We can't be within 12 inches. So, we're actually going to have to go 12 inches deeper than we originally planned. Um, the cost you're seeing is on a per day basis. Um, this is allocated for two weeks. So, if we get done earlier, we expect a credit coming back. Um, we'll know more once they mobilize. Mayor, may I ask a question? Yes.

Um, with what you're doing in the alleyway, there's a small business o over there. I'm a small business owner and I've had state come through in front of my business and literally shut me down and about take my customers away from me during that time and it's very hard. Is there anything that you can do for them during this time to get people to their business to protect their business to help them out because it's been closed for a long time now for them. has been and um we can work through I I can look at it in further extents. Honestly, I until the ditch is done and dug and close back up, I I can't guarantee anything. Um

can you not change it? So, at least for people to be able to walk because my husband and I went through and we were walking through there and the way it's the it's set up, if you're going to walk through there, you're walking into that hoe. Can you pull it over so you can walk on that side? We can. Yeah, we can shove the barricades over a little bit just to kind of filter traffic more towards the business on the opposite side of the street. And what kind of timetable do you think so that you can have that open back up? Have that done tomorrow. Okay. As far as getting traffic back as far as vehicle traffic down the street, it's going to be once we get the vac backing done and the ditch closed back up. And what you're what do you estimate your timetable for that is

allocate? It's there's two weeks allocated per the change order. Um, we're obviously hoping for a little bit less duration on that. Um, I'll know more Thursday once they mobilize. Um, if I can get back with Devon and she can circle back to you all. Okay. I have a question. My naity I'm sure we'll show. But nevertheless, I have a question. Um, before we have anything done in our yard, we we call and we find out where all of the gas lines are. Yes. And so I'm just wondering how this was missed. We've we've called in no less than 10 locates and not want to pick this line up.

So, at the beginning of the project, we had everybody come in and locate it. Um, locate everything that that was needed. Um, prior to digging, prior to starting this FDC excavation, we had Columbia gas, correct me if I'm wrong, had them come back out and locate it again where and it was spray painted over on the sidewalk. They all they had in their system was that gas mane. They did not have the one in the center located on their stop. So, they did not locate it when we called them out, however many times we called them out to locate. So, do they assume any liability for this? They I mean, they missed it.

We're looking into that at the city level. Um, we've gotten the information we need from the design and construction teams and we're we're researching whether there's any recourse there, any other conversations to have direct with Colombia. So, Okay. Thank you. This seems like a really bad mistake, especially if you can because are they both live? They are. They're both um 6 inch active gas mains. Wow. Okay. Thanks.

Is there anything that I believe that is that is it? There were some um electrical trades off tradeoffs where we added a few things and we got some credits. it ended up being um a a small credit back, but it was, you know, pretty much a wash for those items. But that is everything that is is included in this change order. Again, there are two items with the window trim casing and um the the additional FDC excavation that have the potent those are maxed not to exceed. So, there's a potential for credits to be coming back to the city. All right. Any other questions? Unless the change order

is is that is that correct? 108,48061 cents. That is correct. Okay, Mr. Chris, you have a question. Yeah. Um, what is the new projected finish date of the whole project? So, oh, thank you. The that is the other thing wrapped up in this change order is the time extension. Um, we were concerned with the cost, but time is also very critical. The new contracted uh substantial completion date is March 4th, which is next week, with final completion following at the end of the month. Okay.

Elizabeth, is this am I right? Is this the last change order? This is of the work that we know about. Um, this is what we have to present. Like I said, there may be some credits coming back. There may be some things with project closeout. So, we can't guarantee we will not be in front of you again. We just don't know exactly what that will entail um until we get through the next probably two to three weeks and know kind of what we have creditwise coming back. Okay. Any other questions? All right, council. You've heard the request here at this time. We'll entertain a motion. Motion made.

Motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? Second. Second made by Miss Hamrich. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of this motion for the change order number 18 signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Nay. Thank you. At the record. Yes. Devin.

Sorry. Council, in front of you, you also have an updated sheet on the financials, the breakdown of the total project costs that Stacy presented at the last meeting. Um, so that's been updated to reflect the true change order 18 value as opposed to the estimate that we previously had prior to the gas line issue and and other outstanding adjustments. So if you have any questions on that, I will defer to to Stacy of course, but you all have that in front of you so you can still see where our running uh number is in terms of project contingency, including all the FFN type projects we've done um tangental to the Kodell contract. So just wanted to draw attention to that.

Yeah, thanks. So I do have a question on that. I'm I'm confused. So, you've got the next to the last number shows estimated contingency after change over 18 of Yes. 254,000. Yes. But then it says remaining contingency estimate of 16,000.

What it is with the construction contract, they have to track those change orders as they come through. We obviously did a lot of additional items that we said would be coming out of the contingency. So things like our audiovisisual and security, we transferred some money for that. We've got the asphalt that we're going to do on our own. So at the end of the day, um at least as far as the numbers that we've been given to date, um the 16,000 is truly after all of those extra things that takes into account the asphalt that we know we need to do on our own at the end. So essentially, we're using some of that contingency. You'll see right now over on the right hand side, the original GMP contract was 12,499566 and our current contingency balance of 254,000 that we don't at as of today anticipate paying to Kodell. So our estimated construction cost would come in at 12.2. So, we're using some of that contingency to help cover some of those other costs that have come up with audiovisisual security, the asphalt that will need to be done. Um, using some of that remaining contingency to cover some of those rather than additional transfers from the general fund. So, um, it was the best way for me to illustrate to show you all, but because you can see at the top what we've actually transferred in

cash and expecting anticipating from the historic tax credits. So, so we have 16,000 plus for FFN for any additional FFN that beyond what you've already approved the the $55,000 that you all approved previously is accounted for in here. And that included what? I'm sorry, I don't remember. The essential furniture order that you all approved at a that was already accounted for. So, is that where is that in this list? It's in the project cost list. If you'll see the furniture order essentials 55,811. You all previously approved a municipal order for that. Okay.

Find your essentials right there.

So the only thing in that project cost that you all have not um had to technically approve or been brought to you yet is the parking lot asphalt. We had an estimate of 85,000 for the actual parking lot portion. Uh, if you'll recall, I believe Devon has mentioned previously when the county did the pavilion project, they did not go ahead and do the asphalt work associated with that. They had an $18,000 credit on that project. So, the county has $18,453 that'll be contributed towards the asphalt as well. So, uh, those that's the only thing really left that we've not already received council authorization to do. Um, our unit price contracts for concrete and asphalt and paving are out to bid right now. So, once those unit price contracts are done, uh, and approved by council, then we would be able to move forward with repaving the parking lot.

All right, other questions? Okay. All right. Thank you, Stacy.

Yes. Now, we'll go back to the original agenda on Maris comments. First of all, uh item 6A, the 2026 cola for elected officials. And I got Megan here, and Megan's going to come up and talk a little bit about that. So, in 2012 or 2011 and 2012, um the council passed some ordinances that said that once the DLG released the cost of living um increases for elected officials each year that we would automatically adjust per that amount. um and that was to be unless council decided to um change those ordinances, repeal those ordinances and um change them. So, what we've been doing since then is just increasing that amount um as they come up. So, in as a result, we have gotten about a 42% increase to the wage of city council members. It's gone from roughly 10,000 and some change in 2013 to up to over 15,000 now here in 2026. So, um, what we have now is the DLG's letter stating this is what the COLA will be and we are prepared to go ahead and automatically adjust that unless council has any objections to that here tonight. One of the reasons the council did this in the past was because it was an automatic and uh actually the public was never informed of it being automatic and the the races would come and then it would be like oh well how' this happen and then actually when I was mayor I did not take the raise the council did not take the raise for a couple years because we couldn't give the employees the raise so there was no reason for us to take the raise. We couldn't give the employees a raise. And at that point in

time, I got a push back on that saying that by law, we had to, but we don't really have to. But this is just that was started to be done just for transparency sake so that the public knew what was coming along and then if we have a bad year or something comes up, then this will be an opportunity to say, "Oh, we'll hold it at the same same level." So that's the historical part behind that. And just to add to that, since 2013 when those ordinance was ordinances were passed, every year I go ahead and and compile the data and put the information in front of council so that you have it prior to the raise being enacted. And should you have concerns about it, should you think it's going to be a year where you might not be able to offer um the full employee gamut um a raise, then at that point you could say, "We'd like to um change this ordinance."

All right. You're welcome. Okay. Any other questions? All right. Item B is executive order uh uh for the uh recommendation by the mayor for the Scott County Joint Code Enforcement Board appointment is Miss Christy Dunaway. Uh you have received her her resume and also her application which is on for you all. Uh at this time uh I would entertain a motion to accept this recommendation.

Motion made by Miss Sames. Do I have a second? Second made by Miss Brent. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of this uh executive order for the local governments of Scott County joint code enforcement board appointment of Miss Christy Dunaway signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay.

Thank you. Item 6C. council, you have you received uh an email from uh from Devon and about the uh the next item uh and we got them here tonight. Uh Mr. May is here with his group and also asked John to come in to talk about the process of how this works. Uh you know, we were approached uh I was approached by uh Mr. May's group uh along with with Judge Covetan and Senator Nun and as you can see this is a a a industrial uh in the northe over Yes. Yes. Mr. Chris.

Mr. Mayor, if I may, I need to recuse myself from this uh due to a potential conflict of interest involving my immediate family. So, I'll step away and join you guys after a while. Okay. Thank you. Okay.

Thank you for letting me know that. Okay. Mr. Chris. All right. Like I said that, so he approached us on actually uh seeing if we would partner on actually the infrastructural part of that or actual road improvements for that particular area. uh this is a project where we don't have a a real other than Toyota manufacturing we don't have really prime industrial area and I and correct me if I'm wrong um I think Holden is here is that we don't have I think this is one of those locations where for prime uh uh I I1 industrial that we can be done so basically what I'm understand is this. We we have a a choice here as council to look at, you know, what's best for the public. And it is my job to bring opportunities to this council that is for the public good and is also looking at possibly for future revenue streams that we need to look at. This this is bought will be bought to this couch because it's a budget item because you might be talking about actually taking money or using money. So, I want to make sure you understand that too. But tonight, we're looking at actual a possibility of support for this particular project. I for one think this is a great opportunity for us. I fully support this and I get I got them here today to answer questions. So, Mr. May, if you all would come up a little bit,

if you want to come up, Mr. May or Jack and also uh and questions on that um and also John talked about the process, but and and just a little bit to talk a little bit about that. So, council makes a recommendation here on what we want to support this. It would then have to be taken to uh fiscal court and then from there it's then taken to the Senate to uh Senator Nun and and go from there and then when all those pieces are put together it comes back to us once we find out as to how everything is working and then from there we get an opportunity to actually uh if we don't to see if we want to further negotiate or further be a part of this uh ask. So, uh, are there questions of, uh, that this council for Mr. May or Jack?

So, tonight as council, we are either showing support or not so that you could move forward with some kind of uh, city um, support. Um, but we would not be appropriating any funds as yet. It would come back to us. But if we're interested in pursuing this, that's what we are saying now. Uh, or Debbie, are we assuming that we would further them?

So, just kind of circling back a little bit to to the beginning. So, you know, I couple of these documents were included in the council packet as well. So May Group is developing the property about 160 acres I1 property um north of the business park north of Toyota. Um and so they're they're in the process they have an approved preliminary development plan which is which was included for you all as well. And there are conditions of approval with that plan that were also shared with you all. So, as a condition, as with many developments, there are often off-site off-site improvements that are required in order to make sure that the development does not unduly burden uh the public safety and other factors in addition to other public infrastructure improvements that developers often are are responsible for bearing. I won't speak to to their other obligations and their on-site and off-site improvements, but the public roadway improvements that are being required for the development, those are the impetus for this request. So, Deloplane Road, Anderson Road, and um I'm blanking. Industry Road, excuse me. So, those three roadways as a part of this are being required to be upgraded in order to support the the development. So the ask is and this is included in the letter you all received and it's included in the packet but the ask is essentially will the will the state city and county come to the table to help make public infrastructure improvements public is being the operative word obviously in order to make this project a reality and make it viable. I won't speak to that part but as I noted in the email there are a couple of paths that the council can take. the council can express support for the project and a submitt to to the senate through Matt Nun who has invited that that request. Um he has indicated that he will be able to more strongly lobby for it with local support through the city and county. So that's another component of the conversation. Obviously this request came to the mayor for the city and it's important that the council have the opportunity to consider the request and discuss it and discuss its merit and make that decision as opposed to that happening in a vacuum at the mayor's office. So that's why we're here talking about it tonight. Um, but like I

mentioned, the the options are um I mean three options. Do nothing um pass a resolution in support of of submitting a request to the state for funding through the budget process or submit that ask to to the state with local investment as well. I know the county intends to discuss this at their meeting on Thursday and have the same conversation. Um, Judge Cington has indicated that he will recommend uh financial support from the county uh from the fiscal court. So, I don't know if I covered covered the bases there, but I just wanted to dial back. That's the kind of the reason we're here and the different options to talk about. Um did invite Jake and CJ to be here because they know better than than we the economic impact to their project and the logistics of their project and the other investments they've made both off-site and on-site. And so figured those are questions you all would have. Um like I said, they're best suited to answer those, but wanted to kind of lay the groundwork there.

Could I ask Deon a question while she's still up? Yeah. Um, so the city coun or the uh fiscal court meets on Thursday, correct? And am I right that this needs to be finalized one way or the other by Friday?

Yes. So what needs to be submitted through this uh the Senate uh appropriations and revenue portal is that request to Senator Nun to essentially sponsor it. So it won't be it's not like a grant application. It's essentially a a request for him to sponsor it in order for it to get into the conversation at ANR. Um, so you know that's that's due by Friday for just their legislative schedule. Um, and so to to the mayor's point how he talked about kind of just like the different bites at the apple, this I guess it would be akin to a grant application where we we pledge the funds up front um to support the application, but ultimately the council has multiple checkpoints to allocate the funds or not. Um, ultimately you have to accept any appropriation um but also budget. if you all elect to support it financially, you all would have to include that either via budget amendment or in the upcoming budget. So those are kind of the checkpoints where you have decision uh decisions to make, but um Friday is the date that that that kind of project overview and and ask has to be submitted. And so to tonight we are not required to say how much just that we would be a part.

You're not required to do anything. Um ultimately completely if we want I'm sorry

completely. Um no the only the only messaging there is that um you know Senator Nun has not been shy that his advocacy is going to be simpler and stronger if if he has you know pento paper local support in addition as opposed to just asking for that to be a contribution of the the larger Commonwealth taxpayers. Well, I know that one of the reasons why I did not give support to the regional park was location. Um, and I think that this is a much better location um for industrialization from a a planning and zoning standpoint. Um, so I would like for us to continue to find spaces in the in and and this is in Georgetown. Um, And so the revenues would be coming to Georgetown. Um it's not in Scott County. Correct me if I'm wrong. Um it's been annexed into Georgetown. So I think this is um an exciting possibility to get some occupational taxes and some jobs. Um uh it says the possibility of 2.2 2 million square feet of industrial space and 1100 jobs and uh the average wage would potentially be uh 64,800 and some change. So those are exciting numbers to me. Um, I hope that we can take some action and I hope that the state will be able to have Senator Nun's um, advocacy and take it to heart and give us some money for this as well as and I hope the fiscal court will look kindly upon it too.

Mayor, if I may. Yeah. Uh since we're we're talking about Deloplane, I haven't been down Anderson for a while, but uh Deloplane, we talked about that I don't know last year. I brought that up how bad that road was and we were having complaints on the road because it is a great cut through

for Toyota traffic and all. So, you know, whether we help CJ, Mr. May or not, uh that road is going to have to have our attention regardless. It's going to have to have our attention. I'll have to drive down Anderson and take a look at it. But it and it is our road. It belongs to us. So, um I actually I support the the idea of moving forward and let uh Senator Nun have our support in and getting it done and see what we can do because Deloplane's our road and it's not the best road to put that much more traffic on it right now. So, we're going to have to do something one way or the other with it. Mayor.

Yes. Um I've got a question for Holden if I could and then a comment. Okay, Holden. So Holden, so one of the conditions, you know, of the approval of the preliminary development plan, you know, had this what appears to be a a more significant external road and even roads that are not necessarily adjacent to the property. So, you know, this seems to be something that's above and beyond the norm of what we have seen in the past. Is that true? I would just say anytime you're developing a 100 acres for an industrial use, that's not the norm.

Uh and so, yes, the traffic study that the applicant submitted and staff reviewed uh took into consideration a number of intersections and number of roads. And so yes, uh this is very likely to be the scale of development that would impact not just the immediate vicinity but those areas around it.

Yeah, thank you. That that that's kind of what I was seeing and and throughout the process because I've I've actually followed this, you know, in a lot of the other developments just to make sure that we're understanding what are all the conditions and things like that. The the one thing I think that's maybe different about this particular project than most projects, you know, and it's not just Toyota, but some of our other manufacturing uh companies that have gotten incentives through the various types of economic development incentives. Those are established programs that you do X Y and Z and at this time and so there's a there's a process and and then it comes to the local in a very similar way of you know are you in support of this and then you work out the details and you kind of know what the final numbers are uh based on getting them here. Uh this one's a little bit different because we're well into the process, but now we have these additional costs that are coming in to to make this a successful project. So again, I'm I'm in support of this as well. I think one of the things that we ought to look at between whatever you know now and this project or now and the next project because there will be others uh because this would set a precedent uh you know if you recall we we've already had a citizen come um uh David Wilson uh who came and made a very analogous request uh to us as well. And so you know I think we need a process for this public private partnership type activity so that it's very well defined and we have something on which to judge you

know what are those economic benefits the return on investment for us not only for the individual that's making this process or making this project but also for the general welfare and safety of our citizens uh there you You know, again, I think this is something we ought to be looking at. Um, I would like to look at it from a a much bigger perspective because, as uh Karen mentioned earlier, Old Deloplane is a area that needs to have that, but there are other ways for us to address that through the state road plan and things like that to put it through that process to truly develop that and make it the right thing. If I can agree to with Kim, I really believe as if if the project does what we're saying it's going to do uh with helping with the roads, the city since city and county will partnership with it. Uh I hope I think you'll be able to get some grant money with it too, just like we did with the business park. There was a lot of the roadway that went into the business park that we didn't have the money for and the state gave us some grant money to help that. So, I think we're we're all working together like that and it's an economic development for the state as well as for us locally that maybe the state will get involved with with us to make it easier, but that will come later. Not not tonight's discussion really.

All right. Any other comments want to make? So, I think the next thing is to find out how we want to do this. you know, do we want to show the letter with a proposal to support this? We're also looking at uh proposal to look at we're going to possibly look at some funding along with that. And what was the third one? Deon, remind me. What's the third one? Do nothing. That's easy.

Do nothing. So, we can do nothing. Let us support just send it to Mr. none uh and without it or with support and say we also will be looking at um doing financial out I would say and I'm speak for the council but I would say at this point since it's an early stage what he wants is a letter of support from the council so I would just do a letter of support because we won't really know the details what the financial will involved or not involved so just give a letter of support for the project that he's doing for to help the economic of our community or something you know the 5 million is the is the end point. Yeah. I just want to repeat one thing from earlier. So so it's

it'll be a resolution regardless as the the legislative action. But ultimately what we're doing it's not it's not Mr. Nun's project. It's an application from the city uh in partnership with the county to ask for state a state appropriation. So you all can you all can do a resolution that says this is a great project. We're asking you for x million or you can do a resolution that says this is a great project. we're asking you for x million dollars and we are willing to contribute subject to budget and subject to all those things x amount and then you would expect the county to mirror that. So um and so it would be nice if the state gave four million and the county and the city would be able to come up with a million collectively.

Yeah, but I I don't know that we can put structures on that. So that we're support keep it simple. Yeah. So it's what it it says here that uh the one of the options is a resolution permitting local funds to pair with potential state funds. Yeah. And stop county fiscal court funds. It doesn't say the amounts or anything like that. Would that be sufficient?

Well, I'm going to ask a question. So, we could simply say that we want to ask the state to give $4 million and then hopefully that we could say we'll give 500,000. Could that is that possible to to put that way? Uh Devin, can you help me with that?

You all can format the resolution however you want it. We've got it. We've got it ready to manipulate in any way. Ultimately, like that is the policy call of whether you're going to contribute funds. I'm just transparently uh from my conversations with Mayor Jenkins, Judge Cington and and Senator Nun, Senator Nun has not been shy that he will advocate harder for this if he feels that it is a partnership and he has that commitment from the county and city. So that doesn't mean that you need that. We can submit the ask regardless, but if you as a council want to make that commitment, he he has expressed that he would like to see that on the front end so he can lobby his peers. That is that is just

how he has framed it. So what I'm Excuse me. So what I'm hearing you saying that it will it will be in our best interest if we have some type of financial part in that just so he knows how much money that we're willing to put up. That that's the way I that's the way I'm looking at this, you know, but he he can advocate better if he knows that, hey, city's going to give $500,000 or whatever. So, mayor, I I've done a number of these on the manufacturing side, and the trend has is all over the map right now when it comes to these kinds of public private uh local, state partnerships. The the percentages are all over all over the map. I I would I would make a motion for the resolution to authorize uh our support in conjunction with the county and the state to help support this this ask and that that we are willing to entertain the conversation around a public private partnership uh with the parties uh to to further this project if the state is one of those partners u in in this endeavor. So if if there is an appropriation uh that we would negotiate to be part of that process,

that's the way I saw it was um I understood it as they're looking for us to work to agree to all participate. Um and that it's too early to know how much what that would look like. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Thank you. I was actually trying to second. All right. So, Mr. Minky's motion on here. Motion's made by Mr. Minky. Can you say it again? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Good. Can you explain that again? Thank you. I'll attempt I'll attempt to

um that that basically we would authorize the mayor in a resolution to support this activity of a partnership between the state and county government and to help facilitate this public private partnership of activity and that we would work based on the state having part of the appropriation in this process. All right, we got that. Now, you have a second. I second. Thank you. Second made by Mr. Brent. Now, uh any other questions or comments? I have a comment.

I I would like to see this be successful and so I want to make sure that if we don't put any numbers on it that it will not be successful. So, that's my only hesitation. I agree with this motion, but I want to make sure that we have the best motion to go forward to have this go forward because I think the roads are all going to need to be I think we have opportunities to do that through other grant funding as well. Um, I just don't want to flush this on the front end if we're not doing our due diligence now with the way that uh, Senator Nun needs for it to be. And I don't have an answer for that. I I'm I'm looking for guidance here. Um, Willow, um, I hear what you're saying as well, but you know, the truth of the matter is that we haven't had time to really even think about or look at the budget and see what we could

contribute for some guidance and and so I don't I don't think I talked to him at the um legislative breakfast

and I don't think I I don't want to speak for him because and he's not here, but Um I don't think that they were looking for a number. I think they were looking for participation and leadership and the and the fact that you know he when he goes to ask he knows that there is going to be buy in and skin in the game from the city council and the fiscal court. And then we'll hash out the details on the, you know, he can go forth and ask for tell him what the project costs and get what he can and then we come back and and see what that looks like. And mayor, you told me that John is here. Yeah. Would it be okay if he Yes. John

gave a perspective here. I'm just trying to get as much of a perspective as I can. Yeah.

John Cooper. I'm the managing partner of Capital Consultants and we do this kind of work for a living. Um, we've got about six of these going on in Kentucky right now and all of them are requiring local commitment. Um, what's going to happen with this general assembly is they're going to be there's going to be a surplus expenditure plan and it's not as big as the one in two years ago, but it they are going to have one. But they're doing something a little different. They're doing a transportation uh expenditure plan which is outside the six-year road plan which is something new. This is what the house has brought up to do. So I think your I think your motion is is on par. I think as long as you express support and and are willing to consider uh financial support in your future budget and that's the way that I would that's the way that I would word it. But I will say this that the one kicker on this is state has to participate.

Okay. or or I mean and they're the largest participant of it. I would say to to to uh Councilman Sames's comment and it's really important. That road needs to be worked on. It needs to be worked on and I think this is a good start to get it to where it needs to be. If you just want my personal opinion, we have a lot of traffic that comes out of Toyota that comes from other places and I think eventually that whole piece that whole quarter needs to be done and it needs to be done for safety reasons also for traffic flow. So, I think your motion is is quite in order and I think you're you're going to be coming back to look at this again in the future, but you won't know until we'll know about the state portion of that money. Uh, April the April the 15th. That's when the when the general assembly adjourns sign then you'll know at which point in time that that money might be entered into whether it's in the first year of the banium or the second year of the banium and then you'll have an opportunity then to take a look at it. So, I think your I think his mo I think uh Councilman Minky's motion was in order

from just from a procedural standpoint. We Hang on second. All right. Um it's in order, but do we need to add that it's provided the state does participate? Um I thought I thought that I think that was part of part of this motion. It certainly ought to be a part of your motion. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. The only the only hesitation have of putting a number in there is I'm not a good poker player. So if if you lowball it, then shame on us. If you highball it and it kills it, shame on us, right?

So that's why I'm trying to maintain as much flexibility in there as possible and rely on Senator Nun to, you know, go to bat for us and get what he can get. um because we know that we will have a return on investment regardless of what that number is and and it just will allow for future development in that corridor as well going to the west. So yes, ma'am. Uh from a drafting perspective, you could probably consider an amount up to if you wanted to. I know that's doesn't fall in line, but just from a drafting perspective, if that was important,

um, you still have flexibility for a number that is less than,

but I just want to capture trying to stay. Um, so kind of the the takeaway of what you've said, subject to local approval and upon award of funding, if any, from the Kentucky General Assembly, the city council may consider in local matching funds to assist with the necessary public improvements. Um, and it would be to the city-owned or city maintained portions of those roads with our local dollars. Is that the spirit of what you're So may consider an amount to be set in the future or how do you want to word that? Yeah. That we would negotiate. If I can have a few minutes to write.

Yes. Okay. Go right ahead.

Yeah. The mayor, the other thing that I would just circle back on that has been touched on it's this is because this is something new. uh this is I think it's really really important that we all are looking at this the right way so that when it does come back and there is a request and you know we have the wherewithal to be able to support this from a budget perspective that we don't not support it um because I think that would And the the opposite signal that we want to the business community, not just here, but across the country and potentially around the world of no, maybe we don't do everything we say we do. Like I said, you know, it it is very important that when we get opportunity to do what we think is good for this community and that we will enhance this community, whether it be re revenue streams or whatever, it is our job to make sure that we we we look at those and we if it gets a great return on investment, which is going to be for years to come, I think that's something that we as a council should look at and and and and support because I think that's what they expect out of us for that. All right, I'll let her continue on. So, anybody else got any other questions or comments? Nobody else want anything to say? Okay. Again, I think it's it's it's really uh uh a opportunity that we we need really need to to show ourselves that we need to be taking the lead on this. Uh

because since we have a second, I will ask a question of Mr. May if it's okay. Sure. Um I was looking at the economic impact and it looks to be quite significant, but there was one um question that I had. It said that 1 176.5 million over the analysis period. Do you do you know what the analysis period is? That will be over a 30 year period. 30 year. Okay.

And that number it's it it's subject to change but it's subject to change upward because what we're projecting there Jake and you can help me. This is a better numbers guy than me. Okay. It's my understanding that we are projecting just warehouse distribution jobs. If they're manufacturing jobs that come in, they're going to pay a higher uh labor rate. Therefore, the payroll taxes and so forth would change going forward. Did I state that correctly?

That's right. And we we intentionally um modeled that as conservative as possible so that we don't, you know, overpromise and underdel. um when you look at all the assumptions that are baked into that, you know, primarily the employment density and salary, uh we think that the project will support a number significantly higher than that. Thank you.

And just just one other thing, we purchased this property over three years ago. We paid $6 million for it. And the reason we did is because we recognized that there was no real industrial property of any significance in Scott County. So, we said we're going to try to make this thing work. So, after we purchased it, what we've gotten into is in the very beginning the streams. Now, do you do you disrupt those streams or do you work around the streams? If we disrupt the streams and build this property completely out, we can get 2.2 million square feet on there, most plus or minus. If we work around the streams, we would get about onethird of that. So onethird of the size of the project would also cut the the economic impact to one/ird. So that if we cut it then we we could potentially reduce the number of road improvements because there would be less traffic. But based upon the model that we have today, our traffic engineer who's Palmer Engineering, they've done work for Toyota. They they designed this interchange, the new interchange 127. And uh so they're one of the best traffic engineers. We just say tell us how this needs to be done for the safety of the passing motorist as well as the trucks entering and exiting this property. We don't want stacking problems. You're coming out. We don't want bottlenecks. So we've designed it in a way that we have gaining access over to industry road which will require some improvements. That's a county road. And then we're going to have access improved much improved on Deloplane. Deloplane will be widened 40 feet.

Okay. Now this is the first section of del plane. Uh and I think that from that point del plane could you could add sections to it as you go further toward highway 62. And then whenever highway 62 is maybe built out or something you can connect from that end. But it's just it's too far to carry all those improvements in our budget. It just it won't work. So So because of these stream exorbitant stream uh fees that we have to pay to the core of engineers, uh we don't have the ability to fund off-site improvements. So it's a budget thing for us. But and if I looked at it from your standpoint, I think I would say, you know, this is an investment. no different than our investment. You're investing funds. You're investing uh in your community. And also just one other thing, if if if uh tenants want to come here, they need property that's shovel ready. And we're already through this core. I mean, it took us almost three years to get through there. We're through the study for Indiana bats, archaeological, all this stuff. There's been a lot of heavy lifting, a lot of expenses incurred since we purchased that property. So, we're trying to get it to the point where it is shovel ready. We've had to turn away several tenants because we weren't ready. Now, we're we think we we are ready on site. It's just the offsite that needs to be dealt with. And it won't come all at once, I don't think. I mean, we're not that lucky. It'll come over time. And uh we have some pretty significant interest in buildings of the you know two to 300,000 square foot range right now. So

we're committed to it. Obviously we purchased it. So so anyway, any other questions for us? Thank you, Mr. May. Appreciate it. Thank you, Jack. There's uh one other question. Um if you go forward with submitting this request, um what is the dollar amount that you would authorize the mayor to go up to? from the state on the form if you wanted to support a specific dollar amount. I don't know that we want to put a dollar not for the city. If you were going to Okay. So, you don't want any dollar amount at all? Even for the state, I think we'd tie their hand in our hand if we did. Go ahead.

I think we have to list the dollar amount that we're requesting as a budget appropriation from them. Um, ultimately the profile of the project is $5 million. um what's been submitted is the roadway improvements and then the intersection improvement. So when we submit it through that portal, we submit the project description, but also we're going to have to articulate what we're asking the state to appropriate. So um I think just what she's asking is, you know, knowing that you all want to negotiate additional um local partnership with the city, county, and the state. Ultimately, we do kind of have to put pen to paper in terms of what we're asking the state to appropriate. And so now I'm hearing that we actually should put a number of what we expect the state to to or to Senator Nun to lobby the state to get. Is that what I'm hearing you say?

It's it's literally a request for him to sponsor a budget appropriation. So um we do have to up to $5 million since that's what it costs. That's what it costs. Yes. That's what the estimate the estimate is on the project. Right. Is that how I mean we're we're just like you said this is new and we're trying to get the right language. So up to is that what the language would be that No, we could say I think we could say up to f we could say for for us are we talking about our our our end of

we're asking what were we're asking the state to appropriate. So, if if it's a total $5 million and you all are wanting to open-ended articulate that the budget is five the estimated budget is $5 million and that um you know there'll be the resolution that we can submit with it but but ultimately there has to I think be an ask of the the state so that he he knows what he's lobbying his peers to to get to. So we've been asking the state let's say for $4 million is that what about what you know for their Yeah. So we could ask the state like for instance $4 million that they will put up $4 million and then and we we could do

Can we ask John to tell us how that usually works? Y yeah and that mean Yeah. Do they bid back then? Depends on how you write it. Yeah. It's up to you. The budget process is a fluid process. Let me first let me say there's there's you know this project if this project is a $5 million project uh the state's going to pick up the largest portion of that to make that project work. I think that uh you're you're you're to you're for the record besides support is when you do your budget

once the money's been appropriated by the appropriations and revenue committee and you actually know what you have to work with. So, he will uh Senator Nun is gonna is going to lobby for as much as he can get. Okay. Uh I I can I can tell you that most of these require most of these projects are requiring some local support.

And that's both in the way of support and the way of dollars as well. And uh but this fluid this budget process is fluid until it ends. And so we won't know that until April the 15th. I think that I think if you wanted to put a a a dollar number on it that you were comfortable saying you were willing to go up to but we the only thing is we don't know exactly yet how much he will or will not get out of the out of the state budget. Right. So you could possibly doing be doing yourself in my opinion a disservice to show your hand in this early right if and let him go. Let's let let him let him go see what he can get and then you know it's going to have to be mostly state money in order to make the project work anyway.

Right. But I do believe you will end up having to put right some dollars into it. But what you're saying is for for the resolution we're doing, we don't put the amount in. But Devin seems to be saying the opposite that we put I think we're saying the same thing in a way. You need to you need to be willing to show financial support with a dollar amount. I don't think I don't know. I I don't I don't think you do, but I'll be willing to stand corrected. Well, I think what you're saying is that we request the full amount. Yes. You articulate as $5 million project and you're asking for support and that city and county are willing to come to the table to supplement understanding what the state has. So, what I'm hearing is up to the full amount request support

pledge. Yeah. This the state we'd ask for up to the full amount. So, in essence, we could say we're asking the state for $5 million. Correct. And then up to five up to It's up to up to $5 million. That's the way you sense. Yeah. Up to $5 million. And then then from there, whatever they allocate, then we have to look at at filling the spots. Mayor, I make a motion that we end the discussion and move to a vote. Okay. Second. All right. Motion is made to end the discussion and then go to a vote. Are there any other questions or comments? I'd like to hear the motion, please. The resolution. I mean the resolution.

All righty. Bear with me. Okay. All right. So, based on that's that's a completely different motion. This motion is just end discussion. Okay. Motion on end discussion. So So the motion is made to end the discussion and it was properly second. Are there any questions or comments? All those in favor of that motion signify by saying I. Those opposed say nay. Now she want to read the uh resolution. Okay. Okay. This is including the up to five up to 5 million. Y.

Okay. Um, so a resolution of the city of Georgetown expressing support for the off-site public infrastructure improvements to um wish we hadn't ended the discussion, but to city- owned and or maintained roads relating to the legacy run commerce park project expressing support for a Senate appropriations and revenue requests to obtain up to $5 million in state funding with assistance from the office of Kentucky State Senator Matt Nun, considering the future appropriation of local matching funds and authorizing the mayor to submit any necessary necessary forms or documents related to such request. Whereas May Commercial Group, Inc. has received preliminary development plan approval with conditions from the Georgetown Scott County Planning Commission for the Legacy Run Commerce Park, 160acre Industrial Park to be located at 892 Old Dela Plane Road. And whereas the proposed Legacy Run Commerce Park is expected to create more than 1100 jobs and generate approximately $176 million in projected state and local tax revenue. And whereas the projected cost of off-site public infrastructure improvements to Deloplane Road, Industry Road, and Anderson Road required for this project is approximately $5 million. And whereas May Commercial Group, Inc. is requesting state and local funding assistance to help complete the off-site public infrastructure improvements to Deliplane Road, Industry Road, and Anderson Road as required by prelim preliminary development, the preliminary development plan for the legacy run commerce park project. And whereas state funding may be available through a Kentucky General Assembly budget appropriation. And whereas the Georgetown City Council and Scott County Fiscal Court have been asked to support a 2026 Senate appropriations or revenue request through Kentucky State Senator Matt Nun's office for funding to develop the required off-site public infrastructure improvements. And whereas the Georgetown City Council wishes to support economic development and job creation efforts, prioritize public safety and traffic mitigation, and improve off-site public

infrastructure for future growth associated with the legacy run commerce park in city limits. And whereas subject to local approval and upon award of funding, if any, from the Kentucky General Assembly, the Georgetown City Council may consider appropriating local matching funds via a future budget amendment and an amount to be determined. based on said potential state funding to assist with the necessary public improvements to the city-owned and or citymained portions of Dela Plane Road, Industry Road, and Anderson Road. And whereas local matching funds, if any, to support the development of the required off-site public infrastructure improvements referenced herein will need to be approved by the Georgetown City Council pursuant to municipal order number 14-006 and obligated via future budget amendment. Now therefore, be it resolved by the city of Georgetown that the city of Georgetown is hereby authorized to submit a Senate appropriations and revenue requests to the office of Kentucky State Senator Matt Nun for sponsorship to help fund the development of off-site public infrastructure improvements to Delplane Road, Industry Road, and Anderson Road as required by the preliminary development plan for the Legacy Run Commerce Park project. The estimated total project cost is $5 million with state funding requested in an amount up to $5 million with the balance to with the balance to sorry with potential local matching funds from Scott County fiscal court subject to the fiscal court's approval and the city upon award of state funding if any from the Kentucky General Assembly um provided or sorry Any future matching funds must be approved by the Georgetown City Council pursuant to municipal order 14-006 and appropriated via future budget amendment. City council approval shall be required before the acceptance of state funds. Notwithstanding the forgoing lo local matching funds, if

any, approved by the Georgetown City Council shall be restricted to support the development of off-site improvements to the public roads and rideways owned and maintained and/or maintained by the city of Georgetown. The mayor of the city is hereby authorized and directed to sign any and all necessary documents on behalf of the city of Georgetown and the Georgetown city clerk is hereby authorized and directed to certify there too. Amen. All right. Thank you, Emily. So, you all heard the resolution here. So, at this time, I will ask for a motion which you had just done earlier, right? That that's the resolution. So, is there a second to his motion? I second.

Second to that motion. Then sign the second. Okay. Sorry. All right. Long confession. All right. Are there any questions and or comments? No. We're ready to vote. We're ready to vote. Okay. All right. All those in favor of this resolution signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay.

All right. Let the record reflect that this has passed. Moving right on to item C. Uh item E, the city council re uh revenue forecasting exercise. This forecast here is actually uh what what what um what Stacy sends out as a like a you know gives you an opportunity council to kind of put your hand at try to put you know as based on the budget information she gives and see if you're pretty good at kind of matching up with that. So this little exercise that you have uh you know just make sure you do that. Oh,

she um asleep. I'm sorry, we forgot you was out there.

All right. So, that being said, uh m Mr. Chris, we are we are looking at item number uh uh 6E, city council uh revenue forecasting exercise. That's where uh Stacy sent it out to this again is a exercise to kind of the budget process, how the budget's made and kind of get your kind of get your intake on what this is. So, like I said, you get that taken care of, send to Stacy and and if you have any questions about that, you can see you can email Stacy. All right. Item 6F, um the Royal Spring Park cabins. This came about as you know as um as the project uh for the serial project that's going on uh with Georgetown Municipal Water Sewer Service on uh replacing the muchneeded uh sewer lines down there. uh when this originally came out uh and looking at this when it originally came out uh had conversation with with me and others and and following that process uh did not realize that you know you know those cabins means a lot to a lot of people. So, and again, I want to make sure that uh you know, get council input on this because this is a council decision on what we do with those cabins. We have several options to do here. Uh, one option would be that we could uh possibly and and Chase, if you would come and make sure I'm I'm stating this correctly, is that one option is to do is that uh we originally go as planned

Or another option is to actually do a change order and actually reroute it. And the only cabinet really talking about is the leech one because the other one which is the one that's falling in the by the KU building, that one is not in the way of what what he's trying to do. Correct.

But the leech one is. So bypassing it and then taking it down. uh and that way that both of the cabinets are still in play. But again though, you got one of the cabinets which is the far end which is in uh needs a repair. And if you're talking about moving them things, you know, they'll probably one of them probably come apart. There is a uh agency that has asked about the farend one, the one that was donated to us. Only if if that's moved will it be intact. And again, this has to be a council action because it has to be surplus to that agency if we're going to do that or otherwise we do nothing to either one and leave it as is. So that's where we are with that. So again, I'll bring this to council here and uh and get some some for your discussion and where would you all like to see go from there. Mayor,

personally, I don't know how much this change order is, but I think I'd rather see them as is, left alone, not moved, and and move the line around them because it looks like I was looking at the that she was on the back of what Dan gave us, and it looks like you could take it over just a little bit and miss that miss that cabin and then we don't have the controversy. We don't have the discussion and the cabins are still there. So, personally, like I said, I don't know what the change order would be to do that, but I would rather just leave them as they are.

So, when we were evaluating our our sewer route, our alignment, um, believe me, we'd rather not touch We'd rather not be in the cabin moving business or touching them. I I um you get really tight between um the buildings on Water Street all the way to the water from east side to the west side. There's utilities all over the place, buried utilities. Um, so when you looking when you're looking at the park, um, when we're coming up, we could go under the cabin, which is what we elected to do by moving it, putting our sewer, and then moving it back because that's on a modern CMU base is set there. It's set well. you you don't look at you don't realize that because the dry stack rock around it. It looks very nice, but it's it's on a a foundation that we could uh we could support uh with steel beams, move that, install our sewer, and then um go back and that's uh what's in the contract. However, and that was there because working to the east of that cabin, you get into that slope, and I figured that that was going to be very uh tricky from a constructibility standpoint. We've talked with our contractor He says that he would rather contend with the slope rather than the cabin. So, he is going to issue us probably this week um or next week a change order that will add a few manholes to get around the east side of the cabin. We'll be working in that slope between the cabin. Then it slopes up to the back part of that sidewalk. Uh he thinks he can adjust his trench boxes so he can work safely. We won't have any slope stability issues. Um that's his preference right now as well. So, between what's budgeted for moving the cabin and then for what will be two additional manholes and um whatever else, I think there's like a a a stone uh apron there that we'll have to move and put back. Uh I really don't know

that this is going to be a significant change order. Um that's anything that uh it might not even be to an amount that I'll even have to bring it back here uh for your approval if it's under 10,000. But I think between the the budgeted amount of moving that north cabin and then working around it again with the contractor saying he'd rather contend with the slope and the buried utilities. Um I was thinking from the standpoint I' I'd probably rather move, but with his level of comfort in moving into that slope, I think that's the ideal solution that I think will ease everybody's mind a little bit. Uh we we certainly recognize uh the significance of those cabins here. So, um, and again, we can do whatever needs to be done with either one of them. Um, but as of right now, if if he submits this change order and we think it looks good, we we're not going to touch either one of them.

Okay. That that would be great. Yes, that would be our I I think I speak as the council. I think everybody would rather leave them there untouched as they are and let you work around them. So, it sounds good. So, is somebody going to make a motion for me to do that? Yeah, second. Okay. So motion is made that we we do the change order to where the cabins are not the motion's made to to work around the cabins not to disturb the cab. Leave the cabin as is. Mhm. Do we okay do we need an action at this point without without the change order? I mean not really. I guess not. I thought we may I won't I won't make a decision on anything till we've talked and and we know how to

motion that we are in favor of Okay. opinion of not touching either cabin and going slow. Okay. Yes. So, so, so now we have a motion made and probably second. Uh, I'll just just a comment. Okay. Comment

ju just for for clarification. You know, I know there's been a lot of conversation about the other options and things like that. So, because of and and again, this is more from an engineering standpoint. Because of the elevations of these pipes, doing it in the park makes so much more sense. Otherwise, if you're in the street, you're going to have to go down so deep to be able to get that that it it makes it very difficult from a safety perspective. That is correct. Um you you're talking an additional 10 plus feet of depth on the sewer between where we are in the park versus um up in the roadway uh near the intersection of Main Street and Water Street.

Yeah. If not more. Yeah. So, so just so folks have some concept, it it's like night and day difference here in terms of from a safety perspective and from an engineering standpoint of making it usable uh and make it flow. So, all right. So, good question. Thank you. Uh all going to say that motion. By saying I. Those opposed say nay.

Thank you. All right. Coup I know it's been long. A couple of things I want to bring your attention. Um the downtown sidewalk work is is is about ready to get started with that. Uh we did send out Lori Saunders sent out some information to the uh business people to let them know and I think once we get that schedule as to as to the working schedule of it, they will let them know there will be some disruption but shouldn't be a lot. They're gonna try to, if I'm uh Ed, if I'm correct with this, they're gonna try to maintain lease a a way the the pathway they pedestrian can still get up and in and bound uh through uh downtown Georgetown, but there might be some situation or times where people want to park there cannot park there because they're actually working in that particular area of the sidewalk. Okay. So, that will be coming like in a little bit in a little phases with that. And uh a reminder council that this Thursday, which is February the 26th, 2026, at 4:30, we're going to have a work session on the um long-term water supply update. Okay.

Yes, sir. Just just a quick comment. Um, unfortunately I'm not able to make that meeting, but I was in attendance when uh Chase provided that same report to the waterboard. Right. So, my apologies for not being able to be there. All right. Thursday. All right. Now, we can move on to council reports number seven, public works.

All members were present. on February 18th and u we've approved the minutes. Um we did a wintertorm debrief and road salt update. Um uh Todd, would you get your microphone? Oh, sorry.

Thank you. Um, Chief Breuan reported that uh, one of the reasons that our roads were in better shape than a lot of places, we wound up with approximately 793 hours of overtime, and that did not count uh, Chief Bruin or or Frank Chisley. Uh, we did have some help for two days from the county road department. Uh, one was in Canewood, number two was in Court Square. Um, we wound up using approximately 1,500 tons of salt. And Chief, if I get something wrong, correct me, but um, we have 550 tons delivered. We have 800 tons in the barn, and he has ordered another 700 tons. And he See,

ordered 700 tons. Ordered 700 tons. Um, we don't have but about 150 tons of hand, right? Okay. Hoping the barn will hold about 800 tons, right? I was trying to write quick.

So, um, so we've, you know, we've got 700. They have not delivered it yet, but he calls them about daily. U wondering where it's at. Um the new salt bid will come out uh April 1st. Uh and we're hoping for lower prices on salt, but don't expect it. So, we're also going to try and restock our supply. We have a um half of the salt barn at the county park that bel that we use for storage uh that we're going to work on filling it back up so we have uh plenty in in reserve. Um the they are sending out the pothole truck daily. Um so if you have anybody contacts you with complaints on potholes on city streets, not on state streets on city streets, but he did uh say that they would fill in some if if if they had to. But uh that is uh contact public works and let them they get it on the list

or mayor or the mayor's office. Yes. Sorry about that, sir. Yeah.

Um next up was um Eddie High Totower and uh projects that were needed update. Um the clubhouse drive bridge project is in the design phase and it is with the state at this time. Um the old Oxford road bridge project is going out for proposals to hire an engineer for that project. Uh of course the mayor just gave an update on the sidewalk project. um several storm water projects in the Indian Hills area that they're going to be be working on. Uh head walls, cleaning out storm pipes, getting those up to date and uh so they can handle the water that is going through. So, um the Marshall Park bathrooms project is finished with the exception, I think, of the

gutters.

Gutters. Yes, sir. And then um the main street tap grant which is the sidewalks going out west main street is with the uh plans are with the state for review. And then um with uh it was mentioned in the update for the um city hall that the bids will be going out for asphalt, rock, and paving. And I think there was one more. Um Eddie's got a couple of presentations coming up in um probably going to be in March uh that he will be giving. So um and they are storm water is one and

uh traffic traffic traffic calming was the other and we adjourned. Okay. Thank you. Just quick question Todd. So in in the the snow removal portion. Any mechanical issues that that need to be considered for budgets and things like that? Uh luckily, no. We we do have, you know, we do have to work on them. Sure. And keep them up. Everything's up and running. We did have one uh of the older trucks, the 2002 Chevy Tandem. The plow broke on it. was $5,000 to weld it, but

that happens. Yeah. But that was the biggest issue we had. Uh other than that, knock on wood, everything's running right now and and working. Okay, great. Thanks for thanks for doing that debrief. Okay, let's see. Next, we have finance.

Okay, we had a special finance committee meeting on the uh Thursday, February 12th. And the reason that it was moved, Greg uh was having surgery that day and he said to let everyone know that he's doing fine. He's sorry to miss tonight. So um so all members were present. The minutes were approved from the previous meeting. Um we began by talking about the mid um the midyear budget amendment which you all saw at the last council meeting. And just to make sure that none of us had any questions there, which we did not, um we had um an update on the cola from the state and um which you've already heard about tonight. The next thing that we talked about was the CR CS employment contribution rate increases that we got word about and um um finance director Clark outlined the summary of employee contribution changes and she said that those would be um be handled by human resources um that they would be um talking about how to inform the departments correct um and that um we would we would need to know more about that for budgeting. Uh we also talked about staffing needs for the upcoming budget which um we the mayor and finance director um the staffing additions included nine firefighters um to staff the new station. Number four, conversion of a part-time code enforcement administrative assistant from uh to full-time status and an assistant finance director. Hiring assistant finance director would um assist with daily accounting tasks and enable the director to focus on project management, financial oversight, and strategic planning. Um and they're working on a

job description for that right now. Let's see. Um we did talk about uh onboarding of city council and other members. Um and um we are talking about whether finance, human resources, where would that where would that land? Where would that sit or would it would be would it be some kind of joint um thing so that when we when new people come in that they get onboarded and they know exactly what to expect and um that is something that is being worked on right now. So it's good timing to talk about it. um capital projects um included fire station number four remains a top priority. Uh the RFQ has been issued and will be evaluated by scoring committee. Um let's see and um we expect that to be to the council on March 9th. Um let's see the engine based on lead times an engine must be ordered by the end of fiscal year 2027. So it will need to be included in this upcoming budget. Um, we talked about the uh swimming pool as well and um, Drew Beckett and our grants administrator are working on advertising for an RFQ right now. Um, we talked a little bit about police department and dispatch expansion and right now we are looking at the design cost for both projects to be included in the upcoming budget. Let's see. We also asked about the corner of Broadway and Clayton, noting that the storm drainage ditch needs repair before a park can be developed. Um, Lesby Mitchell inquired about the Broadway storm water project funds that

have been in the budget and carried over for the past several years and CEO Golden provided that the easement acquisition process is ongoing for this project. Um, finance director Clark mentioned the cemetery expansion is another project that needs to be carried forward in the budget for for and has been for several years and we still haven't found the right land fit but working on that. Um, it was also brought up that some constituents had mentioned the building of a parking garage and that that will be something that we would think about for the upcoming um, budget as well. And CEO Golden stated that the Lanes Run business park phase is nearing completion with the city council expressing interest in local economic development opportunities and investment in future city county projects should remain on the radar for future consideration. Um almost to the end. We had um a report on the city hall renovation project which you have already seen tonight and voted on. Um we have we talked about the agency appropriations policy amendment and we uh we looked at that and it will be before you shortly. You've seen it in your packet. Um and we talked about uh the central bank CD and um we are waiting on a proposal which will come to to the council in March of how to invest $500,000 with them and there was no general discussion and we journed at 9:14.

Okay. Thank you. Uh item number nine, planning and zoning and zoning ordinance. I don't really have anything

I don't really have anything for you tonight, mayor, but one thing I would like for the council um John made the comment that the uh state goes on till April the 14th. I really would like for us to get a resolution to the state on uh what Kim brought to the committee about home rule uh and allowing us more home rules. So, um, with our committee here, maybe just through some emails, maybe touching base with Emily that maybe she could draw us up a resolution um that we could the council could take a look at to do that. So, the time's kind of run time's kind of running out, so we really need to put that on maybe the agenda to see if we can do that. If the council's agreeable with that,

I'll get that assigned or task to that to us. Okay, if I can just add a comment, this portion of the agenda, you all do have some like items just hanging out there on this topic and one of those was talking about planning the meeting with the planning commission, that sort of thing. So, this is a standing item that was added and so the committee has finished its portion. So, I just wanted to clarify like this topic, it's not necessarily a report out every time. Just trying to make sure we have that dedicated space for you all to keep that going. Yeah. Yeah. Mayor, I I think basically we should be at the point

that we need to set a meeting and develop the process for the council and the planning commission to come back together with this information that you've had some time to digest and think on u so that we move this forward because you know we're just treading water right now. So we need to move forward. Yeah. So I and I would suggest that we Yeah. So get a date on the

So we can I can go ahead and put that down to uh get a task outside staff to look at a get us a date where we can meet with uh planning zoning to actually start this process with that. Okay. All right. Item number 10, which is item uh 10A, 202526 budget amendment ordinance sponsors Greg Hampton and Tammy Lesby Mitchell. Just hear if you have any additional questions.

You are you are she went over this uh in detail last week and ask questions. So, if there's no other questions to be asked, I'll ask Madame Clerk to read the budget amendment.

An ordinance amending the annual budget ordinance for fiscal year July 1, 2025 through June 30, 2026. Summary general fund. Prior year revenues are increased by $882,389. Intergovernmental revenues are increased by $3,850. Lease proceeds are increased by $1,448,85. General government expenses are increased by $47,500. Affordable housing expenses are increased by $41,750. Information technology expenses are increased by $51,900. City clerk expenses are increased by $9,475. Police expenses are increased by $134,992. Fire expenses are increased by $125,000. City engineer expenses are increased by 135,000. Community service expenses are increased by $26,250 and our local expenses are increased by $58,622. Transfers to other funds are increased by $255,750. Capital expenses are increased by $1,448,85. Grant fund state grant revenue is increased by 1,577,456. Federal grant revenue is increased by $12,596. Police expenses are increased by $3,528. Community service expenses are increased by $1,676. $1,676,524. Environmental services fund transfer from other funds are increased by $135,500. Storm water expenses are increased by $135,500. Cemetery fund. Intergovernmental revenue is increased by $2,250. Transfers from other funds are increased by $2,250. Cemetery expenses are increased by $4,500. Capital projects fund transfer from other funds are increased by $118,000.

Capital expenses are increased by $118,000. All ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict with this ordinance are hereby repealed. This ordinance shall take effect after its passage and publication according to law. The full text of this ordinance is available for examination in the city clerk's office, 629 North Broadway, Georgetown, Kentucky 40324 or at www.jortownky.gov. Publicly introduced and read for the first time February 9th, 2026. Publicly read the second time February 23rd, 2026. Thank you, Madam Clerk. At this time, I will entertain a motion. Motion, mayor. Motion made by Mitch Mitchell. Do I have a second to that motion?

Second. Second by Miss Hamrick. Are there further questions and or comments? At this time, Madame Clerk, roll call. Mrs. Wilkins, Brent? Yes. Mr. Chris? Yes. Mrs. Hamburg? Yes. Mr. Mickey? Yes. Mrs. Lesby Mitchell? Yes, Mrs. Tingle Saints. Yes, Mr. Stone. Yes. Thank you. Item B, amendment to the personal ordinance. Sponsors Kim Minky and Karen Tingle Sames. Madame Clerk,

an ordinance amending section 2-60 of the code of ordinances regarding personnel. Summary. One amends exhibit B of section 2-60 subsection C of the code of ordinances to create two positions of safety officer at grade 109 and one position of open records clerk at grade 108 within the Georgetown Police Department. Two provides for repeal of inconsistent ordinances severability of provisions and effective date upon passage and publication. Full tax. This ordinance is available for examination the city clerk's office 629 North Broadway Georgetown Kentucky 40324 or at www.jeorgetownky.gov introduced and publicly read for the first time February 9th 2026. Publicly read the second time February 23rd 2026.

Thank you madame clerk. At this time I will entertain a motion. Motion motion made by Mr. Minky. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Miss SS. Are there further questions and or comments? Mayor, if I could, um, and I know we discussed this at the last council meeting. Thought there was two safety officers. This only says one safety officer. Oh, I'm sorry. I misread it. I apologize. I apologize. It It does say two safety officers. Yeah, it is. My mistake. I said sometimes. My mistake. No, sometime because the way it was written, it looked like Yeah. So, I apologize. No worries. That means that you showing your age. Okay, let's move on. All right,

I'm 12 and I admit it. Thank you. Okay. Had to have a little humor now. So, no further questions or comments. All those in favor? Oh, madam clerk, roll call, please. Thank you. Mr. Stone, yes. Mrs. Tingles, yes. Mrs. Lesby Mitchell, yes. Mr. Minky, yes. Mrs. Hamrick, yes. Mr. Crisp, yes. Mrs. Wilkins, yes.

Thank you. Item C, the insurance premium tax rate change ordinance sponsors Karen Tingle Sames and Todd Stone. Madame Clerk, an ordinance amending section 36-93 of the Georgetown Code of Ordinances to change the insurance premium tax rate from 8% to 7% effective July 1, 2026. Whereas the city of Georgetown's tax revenue is largely derived from an advalor property taxes, occupational license taxes on wages and net profits and insurance premium taxes. And whereas the city received a significant increase in net profits tax revenue collected during fiscal year 2025 that led to an unexpected surplus at the end of the year which increased the city's fund balance. And whereas members of the Georgetown City Council are exploring various ways to spend or invest these surplus funds. hand. Whereas in light of this surplus, this legislation has been proposed to reduce the insurance premium tax rate to be imposed during the period of July 1, 2026 through June 30, 2027 from 8% to 7% as a means to offer one-time relief to city taxpayers without making permanent changes to the tax structure. And whereas KRS 91A.080 080 provides that the Georgetown City Council may change the license fee or tax known as an insurance premium tax imposed by the city of Georgetown upon insurance companies for the privilege of engaging in the insurance business within city limits. And whereas the city must send the commissioner of insurance a copy of any changes to its insurance premium tax rates by March 23rd of each year to be effective the following July 1. And whereas effective July 1, 2026, the Georgetown City Council finds it in the best interest of the community to temporarily reduce the insurance premium tax rate from 8% to 7% for the period of July 1, 2026 through June 30, 2027 unless extended by a future act of the

Georgetown City Council in accordance with KRS 91A.080 subsection one. Now therefore, be it ordained by the city of Georgetown, Kentucky. Section one, section 36-93 of the city of the code of ordinances city of Georgetown, Kentucky is hereby amended as follows. Section 36-93 fees. A the license be imposed upon each insurance company which issues life insurance policies on the lives of persons residing within the corporate limits of the city shall be 7% of the first year's premium actually collected within each calendar quarter by reason of the issuance of such policies. B. The license fee imposed upon each insurance company which issues any insurance policy which is not a life insurance policy shall be 7% of the premiums actually collected within each calendar quarter by reason of the in issuance of such policies on risk located within the corporate limits of the city on those classes of businesses which such company is authorized to transact lest all premiums return to policyh holders. C. No license fee or tax imposed under this section shall apply to premiums. One, received on policies of group health insurance provided for state employees under KRS 18A.225.2 two received on policies ensuring the employees against the liability for personal injuries to their employees or the death of their employees caused thereby under the provisions of KRS chapter 342 received on health insurance policies is issued to individuals. Four received on policies issued through Kentucky access created in KRS chapter 304 subtitle 17B. Five, received on policies for high deductible health plans as defined in 26 USC 223 subsection C2.

Six received on multi-state surplus lines defined as non-admitted insurance as provided in title five subtitle B the non-admitted and reinsurance reform act of 2010 of the DoddFrank Wall Street reform and consumer protection act publication L number 111-203 seven pay to insurance companies or surplus lines brokers by nonprofit self- insurance groups or self-insurance entities whose membership consists of school districts or eight paid to insurance companies or surplus lines brokers by nonprofit self- insurance groups or self- insurance entities whose memberships consist of cities, counties, charter county governments, urban county governments, consolidated local governments, unified local governments, school districts, or any other political subdivisions of the Commonwealth. D. No license fee or tax imposed under this section shall apply to premium paid to insurers of municipal bonds, leases, or other debt instruments issued by or on behalf of a city, county, charter company, government, urban, county government, consolidated local government, special district, nonprofit corporation, or other political subdivision of the Commonwealth. However, this exemption shall not apply if the bonds, leases, or other debt instruments are issued for profit or on behalf of for-profit or private organizations. Section two, the 7% insurance premium tax rate to be imposed and collected under this ordinance is intended to be for the period of July 1, 2026 through June 30, 2027, unless extended by an act of the Georgetown City Council in accordance with KRS 911A.080 08 subsection 1. Section three. If any section, subsection, paragraph, sentence, clause, phrase, or portion of this ordinance is declared illegal or unconstitutional, otherwise invalid, such declaration shall not affect the

remaining portion thereof. Section four, all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict with this ordinance are hereby repealed. Section five, this ordinance shall be in active pursuant to KRS83A.060, 060 published pursuant to KRS chapter 424 and become effective on July 1, 2026. Pursuant to KRS 91A 080 subsection 1, a copy of this ordinance shall be filed with the commissioner of insurance at least 100 days prior to the effective date of July 1, 2026. Public introduced and read the first time February 9th, 2026. Pauler read the second time February 23rd, 2026.

Thank you, Madame Clerk. Okay. Now, at this time, I will entertain a motion. Motion made by Miss Sains.

Second made by Mr. Stone. Are there question and or comments? Yes, sir. Yeah, Mr. Mayor. Um, I don't know about you guys, I got a surprising amount of feedback about this particular um, you know, item mainly from small business people in the community. And one of the things that they were asking and wanted me to ask you guys too, um, if this was, uh, if this is a t or if this is a, you know, basically a tax benefit via insurance premium being lowered a little bit for everyone in the community based off um, net profits that were taxes from businesses. Um the a lot of the small business people that reached out to me wondered why they weren't receiving the majority of the benefits since it was their overpaying essentially. You know, that's not a proper word for that, but they wanted to see why that wasn't happening. Now, when I pressed them for that, they also said quite a few of them said they wanted to just see it in the general fund. They didn't even really want that back, but they thought it was unusual that their extra taxes were not coming back to them directly. And they thought it was an unusual correlation to tie that together where business taxes are staying in the general fund and not directly benefiting business owners. Uh but again, they didn't they didn't press to get any of that back or ask for it back and they seem to like everything in the general fund. But what are your thoughts about that? Did you what do you think on that?

Well, one thing I'm going to tell you that you know uh if they if the net profit pays more than what he or she's supposed to be paying, they can reminate by going through the revenue commission and get those back. They have two options there. Option number one is they overpay they can simply ask for a credit for the next year. Otherwise they can get it back. I know that because they come to us all the time for that. If they overpay and they said I want it back or they want to credit it forward.

Okay. Well, one one thing to uh say to to that is yes, on the 1% it's going to a little bit it's going to go back to everybody, but with uh businesses paying into net profits, which I had paid net profits last year, um it is a business, it is a business tax, but with you have a business, you're paying more insurance than the average person is. So, they're going to get because they're a business, they're going to get a little bit more back than what the average is because I did what uh Tammy said. So I looked at what for just home and just auto that kind of stuff is probably going to be 50 or so. But then if you take my business tax which I paid into the net profits then that's substantially more and all the businesses have to have insurance that the general public doesn't have to have. So they'll get a little bit of that back through the savings there. But

yeah, I I just the way we say things and terminology matters. Uh so this was not an overpayment of a tax. It was a payment of a tax that businesses for lots of economic reasons had more profits and so they were taxed at the appropriate rate unless they mis calculated or whatever and there are remedies as the mayor has said but this was a tax that was collected that was due. Uh what the discrepancy is was it was higher than estimated which net profits are very difficult to predict and when the economics of a business are such where they're not reinvesting in their companies which reduces their profit

uh because they're reinvesting in their companies to grow and expand and do those good things. So it it wasn't an overpayment. So I think it's important for everybody to understand that. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that came at the last meeting just because you you had made that comment that it was a business tax came through a business tax. So that might have been where some of the confusion confusion is. But if you have a business, you're going to get back a little bit more than the general person will because you're paying more taxes or paying more insurance because you have to have it. In general, they were just concerned about the correlation between here you have business payments and then spreading it out with a insurance premium tax reduction. That was really it. So go ahead.

Um I asked at the last meeting that I receive as much input as the um citizens wanted to offer. I had 13 people contact me. uh one was just wanting to have a more wholesome conversation about it and landed uh after talking about it with let's leave it where it is in the general stream. The other 12 were actually very adamant that they don't want it lowered because they're um of the realization that the revenue stream might be needed to um be there every year for the fire station personnel as well as the swimming pool. If you started if when they started talking about the capital projects that we have mentioned in the past, they were much more inclined to keep this revenue stream. Um because in effect that is giving back to them.

Well again um thank you for comments. Anybody else got comments? I just want to say that you know one of the things that we are provided for is service of people and I am foremost like to give thanks back to people and when we can but if I can do it in a way of services I think it's more beneficial in a long term than in a short term. So that being said, uh is there any other comments and or questions? We've had a motion and probably second. We've had discussion and now we need to vote. Madame clerk, if you will do the roll call.

Mrs. Hamburg, no. Mr. Crisp, no. Mrs. Welcome Sprint. No. Mr. Minky, no. Mrs. Lesby Mitchell, no. Mrs. Tinkle Saints, yes. Mr. Stone, yes. Okay.

Let the record reflect that it it it uh failed at a five to two. Thank you. Item number 11, which is a long list of things here, and we're ready to go. Here we got first off item A. We'll do this individually. So um or just the individual items. So I think we better you'll treat it the same way you do every meeting. Okay. Y let's do with item A, customer service update.

Great. Hi. Yes. My name is Cararissa Garland. I'm the communications director at Georgetown Municipal Water and Sewer Service. Um, as you know, it's a fairly new role, but I've spent most of my time in the background learning everything there is to know about water and wastewater. And honestly, I could talk about it for hours, but I will not bore you tonight. Um, I am here to talk about anformational update on customer usage and data tracking and kind of where we are in that process. Um, the the data that I'm about to present, just so you know, is kind of data that's outside of our system capabilities. So, our customer service team is manually tracking all of this stuff to just kind of get a better insight into like where the utility stands as a whole. So, I will jump right into January of 2026. This is when we began tracking all this data manually. Um, we had 69 leak checks performed total in January. 39 of those were customer initiated. So, they saw their bill, thought maybe their usage was elevated, called us and requested us to come out and do a leak check. 30 of those were GMWSS initiated. So I think Chase talked back in November about kind of those thresholds where we are initiating our leak checks. Um so we have 30 of those ourselves. Out of those 11 showed continuous flow which is what as GMWSS we consider a leak. So at the meter we have to see continuous flow for it to be positive on a leak check. Um, just a caveat to that, just because we're not seeing continuous flow at the meter does not mean that there's not a problem within the home. There's conditional leaks and there are intermittent leaks that are very hard to detect at one um, spot in time. Um, so the next slide is residential usage categories. So we're trying to come up with ways that we can kind of track where the utility stands and where our usage stands uh, monthtomonth. And so this shows where all of our residents

are and then it also shows the prior month. So the goal here is to be able to see if we have any crazy jumps into each category or if it kind of stays the same throughout the year. Um and then going into the next slide, the national residential leak context. So, the EPA puts out an estimate of 10% of homes you waste um 90 plus gallons of water a day. Um applied proportionally to our 15,483 water customers. That equals approximately 1,548 homes, which is what the EPA would estimate we would have that um water waste to be. So our January investigations was 69 accounts um with the caveat of these are accounts that we are either seeing identifying ourselves or the customers are calling us and asking us to look into. So there may be accounts out there that are not on this data. But moving forward, we're working really hard to encourage all of our customers to reach out to us because as soon as they make the phone call to our office, it will be tracked in our spreadsheet and so we can get a really good understanding of any usage concerns. Um, so 69 out of 15,483 equals approximately 045% of accounts versus that 10% that we would expect nationally. So, the most common residential leak is a toilet flapper failure. Sure, everyone's tired of hearing us talk about toilets, but this is the number one reason that we have um usage spikes so high and they are actually very difficult to identify. Um so, the rubber flappers deteriorate over time and they can waste up to 200 gallons per day, six to 10,000 gallons, and sometimes in extreme cases even more. Um, this is

also the easiest thing for our customers to to look at um when they're trying to identify usage issue. The best and I would argue the only way to check your toilets is doing a toilet dye test. So adding dye to the back of the tank, waiting 15, 30 minutes, seeing if any of that dye is seeping into the bowl, and that's how we can identify. Um, sometimes even longer. Sometimes toilets can run and you only hear it cycle once an hour. Um, and a lot of that happens in the background. it's hard to actually recognize that there's an issue there until it becomes a big issue and we have a very big usage jump. Um, so they are often silent and unnoticed. So, moving into our leak checks. So, when we have a leak check, we send one of our employees out to the meter and they ensure that all of the water appliances are turned off within the home and then they observe the water meter for a short amount of time. And so really they're just looking for we have different meter meters in our system but overall the numbers will climb or something will spin on the meter to be be able to identify if there's water moving through it. Um so if there's water flowing the meter will register it and they will count that as a leak. If there's no mo movement that means that no water is flowing through the meter at that time. So a negative leak check means no continuous flow during the inspection. But like I said earlier, that does not rule out intermittent plumbing issues. Um, and even beyond toilets, like we have pressure release valves on our hot water heaters and a lot of things that we really would not consider. Um, washing machines can leak on only under pressure and only in use. And so the investigation it's very important to pursue very thoroughly to try and find um the cause of your usage. So, the next slide, we actually have a video demonstration from one of our employees that does our leak checks. Um,

it's kind of a long one, but you'll see he stands there for quite a while and is observing no usage on that meter. Eventually, he so happens to catch um a running toilet, and we did verify with the customer that that's what he was seeing. Um, so it just kind of shows how easy it is to miss something like an intermittent toilet leak. Um, some toilets, like I said, can cycle or move very slowly and so they're undetectable and are leak check, but really they're maybe filling up every 15, 30, 45 minutes. Uh, we can just move on to the next slide. So, the water meters, um, I think this is important and not many people understand. They operate like an odometer on a car. So, our our water meters do not reset back down to zero, um, every month. So, it's a cumulative total. So, we're taking your current reading, subtracting out your prior month's reading, and that's how we're getting your current usage. Um, that's actually important because it's almost a second layer of security when we're doing our billing system. So, it has the number that we read for this month has to jive with the number from last month. And if it doesn't, especially if it were to somehow move backwards or something like that, our system on the dashboard, we can see those accounts flagged and we can kind of address those issues there. Um, another thing about water meters is that they must water must physically pass through the meter um to be recorded and I think that's an important caveat there. Move the next slide. So accuracy and calibration are kind of two questions that we do get a lot. So from the factory, our water meters are plus or minus 1.5% accuracy. Um that is in accordance with AWWA standards. They are a mechanical device. So water passes through, turns that wheel, and then it

registers on the top of the meter. Um there is no field calibration in our meters. There's not anything that we have to go out and adjust. They come like that from the factory. Um, the only thing that I will say is that our water meters, if they were to be less accurate, they would be slowing down. So, water would be able to seep through the meter and we would actually be under recording how much water a household is using rather than over recording. Um, which has been some of the questions in the past. We also have a meter reading truck. Um, and with that, it's actually very simple technology. We use radio meters. So, our employee drives all of our residential accounts and the only thing that in there that needs to be like kept up to date is a laptop which is kept which is updated periodically. Um, besides that, there's nothing else within that system to calibrate either. um when our meter reader is driving around, if for some reason there is a failure, in very rare cases, he will see it pop up on the computer and we'll go out to our meters and open the lid and physically record the reading right there. Um so tracking moving forward, monthly leak check totals will be reported as I showed today. We also are starting to um record high usage outcomes. So this is a lot of work on our customer service team but think something that we think is necessary and will provide a lot of value but um so say somebody calls in with high usage and eventually they find out that it's a toilet leak. We'll have hopefully how many people had a toilet leak and how many were actually resolved. And so you can see it was a toilet leak or an irrigation leak and then how many are maybe left unknown at that point. Um, and then we will also have the usage category compare comp comparisons for month overmonth. And we're looking into

see if if there's a better way to kind of chart those so you can see any major trends in um in our utility usage. And I believe that kind of wraps us up. Do you guys have any questions for me? I have a question. Sure. So, are you saying all these customers that have come to the water company not satisfied with their bill, it's it's a a toilet leak?

I'm not saying that it's a toilet leak. I'm saying nationally it is most commonly a toilet leak. Um especially when we're getting a negative leak check because toilets don't run all the time. So, but like I said earlier, there are and I have um I've been working on a graphic that kind of explains all of the rare things that you wouldn't think to check, but there are actually quite a bit of appliances that can cause we call it water waste. So, there's leaks that are continuous and then there's water waste, which is unintentional use of the water.

So, the unresolved category, what happens then? um there's an affidavit process that they can go in and and that comes to the board and they can decide from there how to move forward. But there are ch situations where you say well the board decides that okay you know we need to make an adjustment you all make those adjustments to those and resolve that.

Yeah. So the affidavit is essentially an application for an adjustment outside of our policy. So, and even with even with affidavit, not every affidavit that comes through is an unknown cause. Um, toilet leaks, for example, are technically outside of our policy for adjustment. And so, if if it was a large leak, they'll come in through an affidavit requesting that adjustment. Correct me if I'm wrong. U I believe I think at one time I think was it 30 some people came and did an affidavit. They have to really go down and do an affidavit. That's correct. And I think that from that 30 I think was it 28 had theirs resolved. Am I close on the figures? Come close to that Chase.

Yes sir. As uh as Chris mentioned um a lot of these things specific um what you just said actually how many affidavit were filed to be presented to either customer service staff, myself or the board of commissioners. That's something that we're man manually tracking and we're going to try to start finding that. That's what we've we've heard from council members that we need to hear those numbers. Um I forget whether that was December data or that was after my presentation. So it was either December or January, but for one month we had 30 affidavit and I think we resolved 28 of them. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Um I would say um Cararissa, thank you. That's good information. Of course

and I I do think um the outcome tracking is important. I know it's a lot of tedious work, but um you know, we need to know there were just like what Chase said, if there were 30 that came in and there were 28 that were resolved, that will help us. Yes, it's it's a it's important and um probably you get better as time goes. you saw earlier tonight um the the people from the trash collection came in and um it was crazy at the beginning and now it's you know it's what you reported it's half a percent of of the total customers and um you know there's always going to be when you when you have that many clients there going to be problems

sure but um a reasonable amount we can accept and so thank you for this and hope hopefully we'll be having something like this every quarter. Is that what we're planning? Yeah, we track it every month. But

I think what what Carissa is presenting on this is going to become part of our monthly uh operations report to the board. And I think that we can present this uh Carissa can come and present this to you uh whatever frequency you like, but we we are going to have some time to um figure out what to track, how best to track it, and then hopefully use that data to help attack this problem. And if um I'm going to touch on something related to our approval schedule with uh our new board meeting schedule. If for now, for the foreseeable future, Carissa needs to come and update the council on this monthly, we can do that. And then hopefully um as as we see trends and we're able to to remedy this um this situation better, maybe we back that out to quarterly. It's whatever the council wants to see. But some of this data we're just starting to track. I think it's important to note that um we both said it it might be um the I guess sophistication of the billing software may be uh I guess overestimated in its capability at times that we can just select a bunch of filters and pull this data out.

We really don't have a system that that's possible. Uh so this does involve filtering through a lot of raw data which we can do. It's just picking what's most efficient. What do you as elected officials, as decision makers, need to see? Let us find a way to to work that into the the monthly work schedule to pull that out and then we can present it. Appreciate it. Chase, if we can, can we get this presentation sent to us? Absolutely. Thank you, sir. And I appreciate these efforts. It helps a lot and um increased transparency. So, thank you. You're welcome,

Mr. Mickey. Clarice, again, thank you for this. That that's great. you know, in as you go through problem solving, you know, trying to figure out what's going on to to justify numbers, you know, to to basically make sure that they are true. I know for a long time we were seeing a lot of houses that were in certain neighborhoods that were having problems between the meter and the house. Mhm.

So in in your uh 69 areas, is is that one of the categories that you're seeing is problems maybe not in the house but to the house but after the meter which is still unfortunately the homeowner's responsibility, right? Yeah. This is this is all inclusive. So that anything in their service line past the meter would be included in that 69 number. Yeah. And typically those are continuous leaks,

right? So the uh you know I think maybe in something future you know just like you described the toilet and the meter itself that may be something worth publicizing out to the general public of what to look for in that period or that space between the meter and the house so that they too can identify potential leaks there of you know really green grass or you know there's a number of them out there. there's a process that they can follow to test. They can shut off their water and look at their meter and see if it's running and that kind of helps deduce where the leak is. But yeah, yeah, we can publish those. We can put that on our new website as well.

Uh Carissa, thank you so much. Thank you, Mary.

All right. Uh now, let's go in order. Uh uh 11D Toyota Frankfurt Toyota for $39,959. This must be for a new car. Let me uh if I could just start out uh just a housekeeping item. I'll point out our board of commissioners um they have chosen to change our regular meeting schedule which is why this uh agenda looks a little different from you all because we're meeting once a month. So uh that's the third Tuesday. And so I will say the majority if not all of our business coming before the council should hit on your all second meeting. I won't say that we won't ever have something come up on your first meeting, but um that's going to be kind of that won't be the norm. So um you see a number of items for us tonight, but that's that's going to become the norm. That's how we were uh for a long period of time from at least before when I started to uh up to a few years ago when we started meeting twice monthly. So, um, that that being said, to try to expedite expedite or do this very efficiently, I will just point out that items B, C, and D on your agenda, those are purchase orders for the vehicles that you approved at the last council meeting. There's nothing different there. Uh, all the numbers are the same. Sometimes just through the processing, I will get to the new business item in order to get that onto a board agenda before I get the purchase order with it. Uh, I don't really I haven't tracked down the nexus of making sure we have a new business item and an associated purchase order that I need to have both. But out of an abundance of caution, I'm bringing you the purchase order. But these are the exact se three same vehicles that you approved at the last meeting. It's just the paperwork to go with it. If mayor, if you would like, and if if the it's okay, I'm happy to present these three as as one action to the council.

Okay. And that would be items uh B, C, and D. Is that correct? Yes, sir. All right. So, uh so items number B, C, and D. B being uh Frankfurt Toyota for $39,559. Uh C is Freedom Dodge for $43,731 and B from Bob Hook Chevrolet for $69,822. At this time, I would entertain a motion to accept all three of those as one. I'll make a motion. Motion made by Miss Brent. Do I have a second? Second.

Second made by Mr. Minky. Are there further questions and comments? All those in favor of this motion signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Let the record reflect that those have passed. Item D E, excuse me, is uh Desotech for $55,535.

This is our carbon uh change out at wastewater plant number two. We budget for two change outs per year. We have two vessels. We change out one, then we change out the other. This is a annual um annual budgeted item. This is a bid chemical. We do this as part of our uh annual unit price contract. and the carbon. It's uh our our way of helping us pass our biom monitoring. It helps us with removal of heavy metals and phosphorus from the waist stream. All right, you have heard the request. Do I have a motion? Motion, mayor. Motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? Second.

Second by Miss Ham. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of the motion uh for Deslettech for $55,535 signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Item F is for Hatch Company for $12,85.

We're back at wastewater plant number two. This is um the annual maintenance cost of our uh phosphorus removal or phosfax monitoring equipment. This is what we need to monitor uh our phosphorus limit. That's part of our discharge permit at the plant. It's budgeted and um it's a with that equipment is a sole source vendor, but this is annual maintenance contract. Anything that's going wrong, we can call uh we call the the vendor and um they come and service the equipment. Motion mayor. Motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? Second.

Second by Mr. Minky. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of Hatch Company for $12,85 signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Uh G Buchanan Contracting Incorporated for $11,395.

This is one of our active construction contracts. This is related to our pump station upgrade our pump station number 20 upgrade. So, council approved this construction contract back in July of last year. Um, we're upgrading a pump station in Force Main that served the Stone Crest subdivision. And just for um as a reminder, we have uh a developer that's paying one-third the cost of this uh project based on benefit that the development will receive. So, this is not uh all of our cost. However, this change order is our our cost. This will not be uh split between a third uh to the developer and two/3s to us. But just to explain when a contractor commenced work started uh installing the new force man associated with this project in the vicinity of the first Baptist church that's uh has road frontage on US 25. We discovered that there was a waterline loop. Even though this is a sewer project, there was a water line that was supposed to loop around that church. When we dug in, we determined it never did. So, um, this was put in, I think, back before 2006 and we uncovered it and we've got right now with the ground open, contractor on site, we can correct this issue by installing 30 ft of 8 in water line. So, we recommend we take care of this right now and uh add this as a change order to Buchanan's contract.

You have heard the request. I have a motion. A motion. Motion made by Miss Brent. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Miss Mitchell. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of Buchanan Contracting Incorporated for $11,395 signify by saying I. I. Those oppos say nay. Item H, uh, WTP, uh, Clear Well cleaning for 12,000.

This is a little different. Normally, I bring you a vendor with a purchase order. As you can see, this is no vendor right now. This is uh what we're asking for is a blanket purchase order. It will be a cost not to exceed $12,000. Um and this is for inspection and cleaning of our wet well. That's our underground water basin. That's where the water is stored at the water plant after it's gone through treatment before it goes out into the distribution system. So, currently we are doing uh two other maintenance operations at the plant. We're sand blasting and painting our clarifier and then we're also dredging the influent channels uh adjacent to Royal Spring. Uh we're dredging those out. And since we're um doing those two maintenance operations right now, we're purchasing 100% of our water and the water treatment plant is shut down. Well, we want to maint uh sorry, maximize uh our maintenance operations while plants shut down. We don't want to have to shut it down again because there's a cost of purchasing that water. And so we'd like to add another um maintenance operation to get this wet well uh or clear well inspected. And so right now I'm doing this concurrently. I'm getting quotes back from contractors. I believe that's going to come in under $12,000. But, uh, instead of waiting for those to those quotes to come in, then take it to the board, then take it to city council, uh, should should I it be over $10,000, uh, what I'm going to do is I'm going to miss my window of opportunity to get that done. So, what I'd like to have is just a blanket purchase order. I will do the proper procurement to get quotes and we will go with the lowest responsive uh, contractor that can do this inspection and this cleaning for us uh, if it is under $12,000. But we think if we get this approval tonight that we can get this work done uh before we put the water plant back into service.

You have heard the request. Do I have a motion? Motion. Motion made by Mr. Minky. Do I have a second? Second.

Second made by Mr. Chris. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of WTP Clearwell Cleaning for $12,000 signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Item I, Lovo Incorporated for $29,950. So, this is a purchase order for an upgrade of our activated carbon control system at plant number two. We're back to plant two again. And this control system, it allows us to monitor the flow, the water flow through our pressurized carbon vessels where the contaminants are absorbed by the carbon. Um, this is a budgeted item uh within our plant 2 budget. It's a maintenance item with LOO providing the best bid for the the project. At this time, I will request a motion.

Motion, Mayor. Motion made by Miss Hamry. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Miss Mitchell. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of the of the motion for Lovo Incorporated for $29,950 signify by saying I. Those opposed say nay. Item J KM specialy pumps and systems $12,360.

So during um part of our wastewater treatment plant number one upgrade and expansion, our uh head house or influent pump station that's on the south side of the stream. So that's where we receive um the flow from most of the southern portion of the city uh wastewater flow at the plant. Um we have had to rent standby pumps uh to keep on site in in the case that the um influent pumps that we have there, they can uh if they don't keep up with the flow or if they go down because they're very old, we're replacing them. Um, we've had these standby pumps just as a precaution for months on end, much to the chagrin of myself and our board of commissioners, but we think that it's necessary to have them there so we avoid um potential spills of bypasses of waste water. Um, these pumps can keep up with any flow rate that comes in. So, um, normally our monthly rental is is uh goes to the board, but it's under the $10,000 threshold. So, it's the one that you don't generally see. However, in um late January, early February, in addition to the monthly rental, uh we had with inclement weather, we had one of the pumps completely freeze and seize up, and then we had some trash come in and get hung up in the suction line in the impeller. So, we had uh an additional roughly $3,000 on top of the normal monthly usage. So, that kicks it up to where I need to bring that to you all for your uh consideration in the amount of $12,360, but we're um hopeful that we alleviate ourselves of this monthly expense in the very near future.

Right. I motion mayor. Motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? Second be by Miss Brent. Are there further questions or comments? Yes, sir. Just just one, mayor. So, given this long-term rental, um, where's the cost break? I'm sorry. Where's the cost break to purchase to have as standby versus rental?

I I I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head. I know that the new pumps were part of the uh it's a brand new pump station that'll have we'll have on the south side of the Elhorn. Um whether or not I I don't I don't know that we could have even sourced the pumps even if we' done the the calculation. Should we have just replace those pumps versus rented? I think we were having problems sourcing those pumps. So um we looked at just felt like this was um with the standby pumps being modern pumps compared to what we had. uh we just felt like for the time being it was better to invest in the uh monthly expense just for reliability and then even if we'd been able to service those existing pumps anytime they go down we're still going to be having standby pumps brought in.

Yeah. So I get what you're what you're going after and that's something that we would definitely need to look at. But on this particular we just felt like all the benefit was uh even though it's a monthly expense that I hate paying and the board hates paying as well. Um, this was just something we we had to have. Okay. Any other questions or comments? All right. All those in favor of the motion for KM Specialty Pumps and System for 12, $360, signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay.

Um, item K, Low Vo incorporated again for $17,200. Okay, here we're replacing a variable frequency drive at wastewater plant one. I'll tell you, give you the preview that this one drives me insane, but I still feel like it's the right choice. Um, this was an equipment purchase made for the upgrade and expansion. This is a VFD. Um, it's part of many pieces of equipment that we purchased well in advance of the installation date. Um, we pre- purchased this in order to avoid the escalations that we saw on every piece of equipment through COVID after CO due to the supply chain issues. So, outside of the way we would normally do a project, we preppurched as much equipment as we could knowing we were going to run into warranty issues. We knew that we went into that eyes wide open. Um, so despite proper storage and handling of the VFD, when we finally got it installed, it won't start up. Having inspected by two different vendors, we can't uh get it field repaired. They recommended we just need to get a new VFD. Called a vendor said, "Hey, yes, this is well outside of its warranty by um over a year, but help us out." They said, "Sorry, our warranty is our warranty. You you made this choice." Um, so this is something that we've got to replace. Drives me crazy. But, um, I still think as we've talked to our contractor by avoiding what I think is, um, hundreds of thousands, if not more than a million dollars in price escalations by pre- purchasing equipment. I think we've overall saved money. This one drives me crazy, but I will say with all of the equipment we pre- purchased, this is the only piece of equipment that we've had problems with so far. So, we do have to uh purchase a new one. It's a

tough pill for me to swallow, but um we've got to have it. And I still stand by the um unorthodox style that we've had to adopt to get through this project. All right. I motion motion by Mr. Minky. Is a second? Second. Second by Miss Mitchell. Any further comments? All right. All those in favor of Low Vo Incorporated for 17,200 signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay uh 11 L Judy Construction Incorporated with 19,250.

Okay. We're we're kind of hitting a few here on the wastewater plant, but um this something else that as we've been through startup and we're operating the new infrastructure um piece by piece each day um getting more flow uh we realize that on our tertiary filter structure where we have a grading walkway over a flow channel. There are times if all of the pumps that feed that channel kick on in their highest uh with their most amount of horsepower, that water level can shoot up and I won't say it turns into a fountain, but it does come up to that great level. Um that's not normal operation, but it's not something that we want to see at all. So, we talked to the contractor and he thinks he can put these uh flow diversion plates in. We think they're necessary. Uh this will be a change order cost of 19,250. Um just one of those things that you we was not seen in the design portion, but um we're seeing it now. Only when all the pumps kick on at the maximum horsepower, that's when it's an issue. But um we think now's the time before everything's in operation. Let's get this taken care of and add these deflector plates.

Entertain a motion. Motion by Mr. Stone. You know, it's a second. Second. All right. Let's see. I'll give it to Mr. Chris now. Mr. Chris second that motion. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. Those opposed say nay. Item number uh 11m duty construction for 20 $229,832.19. I don't have a lot to say here. This is our monthly pay request. This is for uh work completed in January of this year on the project.

Motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? I'll second. Second by Miss Brent. Are there further questions in or comments? All those in favor of the motion for Judy Construction Incorporated for $229,832.19 signify by saying I. I those opposed say nay. In uh Institute form uh technologies LLC for 383 $3,000.

Okay. This is a budgeted capital expense for uh from our sewer uh collections department's budget. This is their annual budget for sewer and uh manhole rehab via uh cured in place pipe and uh manhole lining. So, just for a refresher, CIP, cure in place, uh, cure in place pipe. It's where we build a new sewer inside of the existing sewer. Um, so we normally do these as individual purchase orders related to a specific segment of pipe or specific set of manholes. We're going to try something a little bit different, see if it's more efficient for our staff. This year we're going to just uh create one purchase order that covers our annual budget and then our collections and engineering staff they can determine the optimal sewers and manholes that are uh uh candidates for this uh rehabilitation and then they will bill against this one purchase order instead of doing uh a list what usually amounts to about 30 purchase orders. So, um, we'd like to go ahead and try it this year to see if it's more efficient just to do this in, um, one pass at a blanket, uh, purchase order for insitu form. This is budgeted and it is bid prices.

All right. Motion made motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Mr. Minky. Are there further questions and or comments? I may have to hold up because Mr. Stone is out. I want to go in. You still have a cor. Okay, let's go ahead then. Enough. All right. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. I. All those opposed say nay.

All right. I was going to give him his chance, but he's not. So, let's move on to item O. Um, McCain Brothers Excavating LLC for 1 million 211. Is that right? 1,211,70.35.

Okay, last one. Um, let me take you back to February of 2025. Uh, city council approved a design contract for the Ederlane waterline project. And so, uh, just as history, we have state funding for improvements to our drinking water distribution network. Uh, and that's on the southern part of the city and county. and the project that larger effort with the funding attached to it. That's called the Southside uh water storage tank and distribution system upgrades. That's a comprehensive uh big-time project, large magnitude project that's going to uh increase our water storage as well as our level of service across the what we hope is the southern half of the city and county. Um that project is major piece of our capital improvements program and it is included in our rate model. Um so uh while we've not gone into details on where we are in that at many points um you've heard me talk about that when related to our rate structure before. Um, so prior to last February when that uh uh when that design for this this Ederlane project was uh approved, the Bluegrass Baptist Church approached us about um pulling out and expediting a smaller portion of that larger project. So, um, we could get that done quicker and that would be more in align in alignment with their project for, uh, potentially a new church, uh, in the vicinity of Iron Works Road close to US 25. Um, the church actually partnered with us and they paid all of the additional expenses associated with the bidding and administering construction on two projects instead of one. So, I mean, we were going to do this as part of the major project either way, but the only really additional cost was two sets of

bid documents. Um, we're we're doing two construction administration meetings per month instead of one. So, the church said if if you all are willing to do that to expedite this one small park that's going to help our project, we'll pay that. So, um try to be a good neighbor there. And we we we drew up an agreement. We did that. So, now we've completed design on the smaller piece that the the church needs help with, and that's called uh the Ederlane waterline connection and upgrades. And what that's going to do is it's going to connect deadend water lines between um on Edder Eder Lane between I think the northern point is just behind um Georgetown Senior Living. That's a dead-end water line on the back of that property and then down to Iron Works Road where we have another dead-end line. And so we can connect those two dead ends with this sewer project and uh we will be able to increase our level of service, get that done. Um that's going to help the church with their project should they move forward. But uh we got that bid. We received eight bids with the low bidder being McCain Brothers and our engineer checked their references. feels very uh confident that they can complete the work. We've not worked with them before, but they were the low bidder. The hardest part about this project is the directional drill that will go under um Canun Creek and we did check. McCain has a good drilling subcontractor that has worked with us a number of times and and knows what our expectations are. We've not ever had a problem there. So, um we've got funding for this project. It fits within the budget of the larger project. We've had partnership with the church. Uh so we're comfortable moving forward with this as a standalone project. Um and seeking your your approval.

You have heard the request, but I have a motion. Motion. Motion made by Miss Ham. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Miss Mitchell. Are there further questions and or comments? All in favor of the motion for McCain Brothers Excavating LLC for 1,211, $70.35. Signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council. Uh, thank you, Chase. All right. Next on the will be the uh 12B municipal order for nonprofit uh funding policy amendment.

Casey,

we have been talking about this for the past couple of months in finance committee and finally got to a draft that everyone was I believe agreeable to. Uh the initial um trigger behind this was considering additional requests that may come in through the year because the policy was restrictive in only allowing requests that come in during the initial budget cycle. Um we've had a couple nonprofits throughout the year that initially thought they were going to have a loss of state or federal funding that would affect some of their nutrition or food programs. Um thankfully those got resolved because the state and federal funding ended up coming back, but we wanted to have something in place that could address that. So um on the first page, uh in the policy paragraph, you'll see an additional statement added. Uh the policy allows for up to $400,000. This year, we only budgeted exactly what the mayor allocated, which was 322,000. Going forward, the consideration would be um to budget the full 400,000. The mayor would then choose to allocate in the initial round somewhere between 300 350,000, which would leave a contingency that could be used for some of these additional requests that come in throughout the year. Uh under the application process, just changed a couple of dates. The policy was very specific to when we had released applications last year, which was later than usual because we were still working on the policy. So this is just to allow us to not have to change the date in the policy every year. Uh you will see sections uh the last item under applications funding process and reporting uh addressing some agencies with multiple uh doing business as names or programs. U we have a couple of examples this year. Bluegrass Community Action Partnership uh they have lots of programs they run. Senior citizens is one of them. uh and a few others. So,

just clarifying that they should submit one application, but section four of the application would be submit be completed for each individual program. Um so, that's just one example of those. And last but not least, section five on the last page is covering those additional requests that may come in throughout the year. uh you will see that it allows for additional requests by currently funded agencies and new agencies. For uh currently funded agencies, it limits the additional request to 10% of their original allocation or I'm sorry, it does not limit their application, but any additional requests that exceed 10% of their current allocation would require council approval. And for new agencies, um, anything in excess of 10,000 would require council approval. So if a small request comes through for $3,000 and the mayor still has remaining budget, he would it would be at his uh pleasure to fund that if it comes in mid year, but anything larger than 10,000 would require council approval. So, and again just clarifying that nothing in this policy policy should prohibit if there's an uh local emergency, natural disaster, whatever it may be that would be handled outside of this policy.

All right. Any questions? And just, you know, I've been involved in this from the get-go and and really what what we did was for instance this year, I think that I have these numbers right, we had budgeted $400,000. Well, the policy allows for 400. We only budgeted 322.

There you go. And so we had, you know, we had wiggle room for a reason. And, you know, in our minds, we were kind of thinking, you know, there's if something comes up, but we didn't have a provision to to take care of that if it did come up. And so when when things like the bluegrass ride came up and we wanted to give a little bit of money to offset that dollar that they're charging, we didn't have a mechanism in place to do that. even though we didn't use the full amount that we normally that we h that we have budgeted maybe in the past. And so this just opens up a way to do that as things come up during the year. And it it also prohibits us from doing anything if it's if it's something big, it's going to come before the council. So anything over $10,000 would come before the council.

Yeah. Uh the one thing that I would ask is having having done this before in other ways anytime you have an open-ended invitation, you know, to be able to accept the the the request anytime, it tends to cause problems down the road. So, I would suggest I I like the approach and being able to have a second kind of second bite at the apple, you know, with whatever funds are are left, but having a a second designated time for application and and approval so that you don't get this in this bidding war of well, this agency, you know, got theirs in first and maybe consumed the balance and so there's a really other great idea that needs funds and then they're they're out of luck because they came in after the fact. So, you know, being able to set some standard of first round, second round, that way everybody knows what it is.

Well, and here here's the thing I would say about that. I hear what you're saying, but um there are some safety nets in place because if you got money in the first round, right, they don't necessarily know that um they have to come back with a valid reason for wanting more. Sure.

And that's always been the mayor recommends and um we put in place that if you came in, the deadline to get in with the budget is no different than it ever was. However, for emergency situations or unusual situations, you can come back and ask, but you you know, it's still the mayor's discretion to say, you know, we already been through this once with you and you know, uh maybe you had didn't anticipate this and we can do it or maybe not. I think the things are in place. I think if we bo what we're trying not to do is completely box ourselves in in case something comes up at a weird time like let's say this bluegrass rides thing came in in one day after the second round was over then we're tied up again until the next year and it just gives us some nimleness some flexibility and we have to use judgment anyway we're we are using judgment when people request it's not automatic and um so I I think I think um it's okay as is. I hear what you're saying, but I don't think there's going to be a I would be surprised if there was a bidding war, but maybe I don't know the nonprofits well enough.

If there's money out there and folks need it, they're going to be asking. Well, you could put if if Kim wanted to do that, you could put in the date. If you want to put the date in there, you put just like we we in Jan first of January go back to look at our budget again and reflect back on our budget. So that would be six months. you'd be at a six months period for anything that you're doing. It'd be at a six month period. So, if Kim wants to amend it, I I won't I'll give you a second to amend it and put a date in there like January, January 1st, 5th, whatever. What What are you putting a date in to do

to get the information to the mayor's office to make the decision? Because at that point in time, he's looking he's looking back at our budget. We're looking back at our budget to see how the budget did for the remainder of the year. what we've got or we don't have. And then that way that can be a reflection then too that they look, oh, this nonprofit needs some help. We've got the money, we can help them. If we don't have the money, we can't help them. So, it's I I just think it keeps it kind of balance for the mayor to do what he needs to do, checking the budget and keeping up with the budget. Yeah.

And and I would say again, the reason for that part of it is so that you can be nimble and quick to react when a situation comes up. It in this situation, this one small situation, it would have been nice to be able to do something on it when the weather was the coldest. And here we are six weeks later after we found out and we still haven't been able to move forward on helping the dollar offset. And so if you put another date thing that's tied to a date, I think we have enough discretion. I think I trust the mayor's discretion there. And um we we haven't changed anything about the original request which is when most of the money is given out and it gives all the people the flexibility to come back and the mayor would have to say yes or no and you know if it's if it's a amount that's over 10,000 we would have to say yes or no.

That's correct. And the thing about it is that you know and the idea behind that is somebody previously who mismanaged you know coming back to do that. That's why it's on on on me and to look at and say, "Okay, you've been here before, you know, from what I see because they have to turn records in all the time to to Karen and so we know what they're doing with their money and if we feel like they're Mitch manager, you know, they coming back not going to do any good with us. So, you know, I don't know if we really need a date, you know, I I think that we can just go from there. If if if we get a situation where we have to look at that again, we can do that. We I mean we have a date that didn't change. Yes. It it didn't change at all.

I think they were talking about a second date. I know. And I just think that's uh it's it's undoing what was intended that to put another date on. So, but I think there's a motion on hand. Correct. Did you make a motion? Okay. I I raised it because I it's a workflow issue

because what will happen, mark my words, if there's money out there, then you're going to start getting applications here and there and you have to, you know, I would think we we'd be obligated then to review those applications and make a decision based on some schedule. But let me just say there's not money out there because we we can we can budget up to $400,000 and we did not do that. We budgeted $322,000 which is what we use. So there's not money out there. It would require the mayor don't it it would be easy to say it's not in the budget if that what it's not like there's a extra pot of money.

Right. But the way I read this, and maybe I misread it, but you have the ability to do up to 400,000. You chose not to this year, but I think the intention behind this was that you would have that 400,000 and you give out whatever you deemed appropriate. And if there was a reserve, then there would be that reserve left in the budget to be able to allocate. So not having to come back to council, right, to allocate more money because you never allocated all the 400,000.

That that was my interpretation of in in theory. That's right. But it's not 400,000 is not in the budget,

right? for this year, but for next year, we were and just to toward clarification on why the conversation started. Like Tammy said in finance committee, there were two very specific requests. Uh not just bluegrass rides, we know that one, but there was again when federal funding and state funding were in question. They came from u two of our nonprofits that serve meals to senior citizens or uh one of our profit or nonprofits that provides food uh for income, you know, based. They had sent requests to the city and county um in anticipation of a cut in federal or state funding and obviously we were not able to consider those. Thankfully, those got worked out. But that's that's what initially started the conversation was those nonprofits um not planned, but unanticipated reductions in other funding sources causing them to come back. I think the language that Kim's talking about on the first page under policy is the new language that it talks about you can incent not to exceed 400,000 but then it says such allocation may include a contingency fund to support the additional requests. Um that's the money that he's talking about. So this year

there was no contingency fund next year or future years talking about looking ahead you all can create the contingency fund with the balance of that $400,000 essentially. So I just want to clarify that's on page one under policy is what and then just as it comes up we have this policy to put it in which is what which is what we did this time we have added $25,000 that was in the budget amendment that was approved to this line item for anything that may come up between now and June 30th. Obviously, that money will expire June 30th, but uh and there'll be the the new allocation, but Okay. All right. Any other discussion on that?

All right. So, I think uh motion mayor, there you go. So, I'm looking for myself. I don't think we had a motion yet. Motion made by Miss Mitchell. Do I have a second? Second. Second made by Miss Hamrich. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of the municipal order for non uh nonprofit agency funding policy amendment signify by saying I. I. Those opposed say nay.

Item 13, office of affordable housing and homelessness prevention municipal order for the 2025 emergency solutions grant agreement. Candace.

All right. I um yes am here for the grant agreement but I'm also passing around um Kim asked for some further breakdown on the numbers for the ESG grant that I brought last time. Um so I gave some a few demographic breakdowns there. Um if you have any questions you can ask but pretty straightforward. I don't need to read it to you. Um, and then I also have possibly answers for Willow as far as the coordinated entry waiting list. Um, our Bluegrass region um has a waiting list of 289 individuals waiting for services. Um, and then the family list has 63 um, family units on it. um youth, unaccompanied youth, so uh 18 and under but without an adult has three and veterans have three. Um and then there's an additional list called the engaged list and um they are folks who are working to get put on one of those four lists. They just haven't turned in maybe all their paperwork or haven't done that last meeting with a case manager. So they're kind of like on deck, I guess, if that makes sense. I don't know if that helps you. Okay.

Yes. If you could write those down for us. Yeah. Yeah. That way we can look at them. I can email to you. Yeah. If you send those to me, I'll we'll get it out to them. Yeah. Thank you. And then any questions about what I passed out. Good. All right. I need a a motion. Motion made. Motion made by Miss Mitchell, second by Mr. Crisp. Are there further questions and or comments? All those in favor of the uh municipal order for the 2025 emergency solutions grant agreement signify by saying I.

I. Those opposed say nay. Okay. C 14. Council discussion. Any old business? Mayor, I've got a few u and this this may fall under what Todd was talking about earlier under his committee report, but one of the things that we had been talking about uh were all of the strong storm water projects that we have and that we've initiated or we've started but we haven't finished. You know, what the status of those are and why. Um, and I don't know if that's part of what that's the presentation. That's the presentation coming up.

Okay, great. And when that's the next meeting? Well, it'll be sometime in March. In March. Yeah. Okay. Okay. The uh the the second one I have was under code enforcement. We had those presentations and one of the things that we talked about not only with code enforcement but also with connecting back to the housing activity uh that we're doing is you know having that listing of all the open cases of blighted and banded properties and kind of where we are with all of those because there appear to be a number of those cases that have gone on for

long time um you know so open cases status you know any alternatives and then potential next steps. Uh then the third one um under the housing and historical significant properties you know I think it's we need to make sure that we're getting those updated and that we have that on an overlay because again if we're going to start working on housing we've got to have this data to be able to help put it together. So, um, you know, listing all of our city properties as well as, you know, vacant properties so that we've got that that we can build in.

So, that's what I've got. Okay. Request for under old business.

Okay. I will assign staff to look at get that for you. Next, uh, under new business, uh, one thing I want to bring up the new business. Um, and I'm sure if you don't didn't know, of course, the uh a long time uh uh person of this community who has really helped shape this community, Boss Tiffford, passed away. Uh, but um, and Todd had actually asked me earlier about this and I told him that we want to do a proclamation. I've already talked to Mr. Tilford buried his son about that and uh I'm going to get staff to work on that. Once he gives me that information uh we hope to have a opportune time to bring uh uh Mr. Tford family up to where we can present that uh proclamation to them. So that will be coming uh sometime in the near future once we get that information. I want to make sure we got that out.

Mayor, can I add something to that? Bias was Bias and I served on council together. Both of us came on at the same same time and uh if it w had not been for Bias Tilford, we would have never gotten the learning center up over in a Boston at the time Ed Davis Learning Center. Is there any way that we could put a small dedicated plaque? I mean, I think his his name's on there u that he was a part of it, but could we not put a memorial plaque over at Ed Davis or in in the learning center because that was so important to him and he's the one that drove that home and got us involved in it and it was always with him. It was always about the kids over there. Education, education, education, learning. And so I I believe with all my soul that that would never have happened if it hadn't been for Mr. Tilford and his love for the area.

Okay. We will I will look into that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Any other new business? Just one question, Mayor. Uh, thank you for distributing the uh information about the new Scott County Conservation District

uh request to put a u a new a district in place. Is are we submitting any comments collectively or is that individually? And the second part of that is whether or not we've reached out to PNZ, confirmed with PNZ, and I I know Chase and I talked about it earlier um to make sure that everybody is kind of on the same page and and if there's any impacts that we can identify those um just for the record. So

can't speak to the second part of that. We've never really considered that. Um, I know we've looked into the process and been able to get pretty limited information through the through the conservation office. Um, but ultimately we you all can submit as a body feedback. Um, but also they just I think the statute just requires that that it be submitted to the city for consideration. So, it's seems like a pretty informal process, but you want more information on kind of how that's done. To my knowledge, the city has never provided comments. Um, so we've just taken the process of submitting the the report that was provided to us to the council. And so if they're individual council comments or if you all as a body feel strongly about about one um for any reason, we can we can look into that.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to just make the notation the uh I'm I'm all for the a community being able to maintain their farms and things like that and use every process that they have available to them. The one of the provisions that's in there though is and particularly because of where this one is located on US 25 road frontage that it also has a prohibition if there were interest in putting uh utility water and sewer line across that uh anywhere even if it's I guess next to the road that they don't have to entertain that uh doesn't mean they can't ask, but you know that that's could be very significant depending on what the comp plan says and in terms of future growth and those kinds of things so that folks are aware

of those restrictions that are potentially now on that property that you know something different would have to happen there. So I'm just raising that because again this is one of those things that everybody needs to know what all the you know all the all the players and stakeholders in this all need to know what the rules are so that if if this goes through then that needs to be built into the planning process. Yeah. If the council's interested happy to happy to pull those parties together and get comments from the respective agencies that could be impacted and and provide that to y'all.

Okay. Thank you. Kim, under the statute, um it does say that whenever there's a proposed district, the notice is sent to the fiscal the fiscal court and the the planning body. So, they receive that notice and then there's a separate notice that sent to the city where that's located. So, it does sound like there has been some notice sent out or should have been. Yeah. Um they're just individual. Yeah. Individually distributed, right? Yeah. Uh, and the one that I was really wondering was like in this case Chase with GMWSS and I guess Kentucky American and and Bluegrass Water. Um, you whether or not they were included in that distribution or not. So,

okay. All right. Any other new business? All right. Item number 15 is council comments. Uh, Mr. Chris, I'll start with you. I have nothing tonight. Miss Sains, just a quick one. When um Chase when we when he starts working down in Royal Springs Park, that one cabin that you were talking about, which one? Leech or the far end one? The far in one. Okay. Which is in kind of bad shape. It's a little bit unsecure for the public. Uh could we possibly see about trying to get someone in there to fix that cabin up so it's more secure for

Well, that's that's something that we can look at is possible uh funding or first thing we got to look at and have looking at having somebody look at it to see do that. Yeah. So if that's council's uh desire, we can we can look into that and see get a kind of get an analysis what is the shape of those cabins. Great. Can I say something to her comment? Um Amelia Cloud called me today and said that um the arts and cultural people in that particular cabin, they stored a lot of stuff in there and it may still be in there. Okay. There may be some um tall uh some full urban barrels

in there. They're they're like the ones that we had. I shouldn't say that out loud. They might break in. They won't be there tomorrow. But no, she said they're they're the ones they're the remains of the ones that they cut in half and used on Main Street and that if we're going in there to do to do work on them to not just at this point she didn't know whether we were going to raise them or or keep them. And so she just wanted to make sure somebody knew that there is stuff in there before we did anything with them. Okay. So,

all right. Well, okay. So, we'll we'll look into that or uh I don't have an answer to that because I'm afraid I'll say something and get myself in trouble. So, I'm gonna move on. I'm gonna move on fast. It's not full. That's it. Is that Thank you, Mayor Kim. I'm good. Thank you. U good meeting and I appreciate the increased data collection with the water company. So, thank you very much for all those efforts. Miss Brent, Miss Mitchell, last not least.

Thank you, sir. Uh we do have I do have a couple things. You know uh little short time ago we lost Bobby Conrad who was a member of public works but we also lost another former member uh not only lost Bias Tilford but we lost John Wright who was a long longtime director over recycle center and um worked for public works for quite a while. So uh need to keep his family in prayers. They're going to have a memorial service I believe this coming weekend at the Wayman Baptist or Wayman Chapel over on chambers. So that's all I have. All right. If there's no other business to be bought for this council, this council meeting is ajourned.