Planning Board - Regular Meeting

muted. Yes. I want to say hello to everybody. Thank you all for coming. Okay, you ready? December. Um, can I ask you how do we know when that's on or not? It's on there. But how do you know? I know.

Over here, but that might just be the power. Yeah. Was it Was it on when you were not here? No. Okay. Good evening. Good evening. Welcome to our December 9th, 2025 planning board meeting, which is the last planning board meeting for the year of 2025. Okay. Can I get a motion to open the planning the uh public hearing for Wait a minute.

I know. We want to get out of here. We will uh open the public hearing for 70-72 North Fifth Street. Okay. I make motion and I'll second it. All in favor? Okay. 7-72 um North Fifth Street. Are you here?

Good evening. Uh Charlie Gotley from the law firm also made land use council applicant. uh new face to the project, but I believe we're here for a fairly simple two lot subdivision. Um the planning board has already issued Oh, I already got heads shaken. Uh planning for already issued a negative declaration. The zoning board of appeals has already granted all the area variances. From what I understand, one remaining issue came up from a member of the public, the neighbor, uh, wondering where the sewer line was because it crosses her lot and the two lots, right? She's not here to rep, but we we put it off until today because she was supposed to be back.

We have some developments. Um, well, we just got at 5:00 today, be uploading to collab and we know that we got a revised plat that shows the sewer line. Okay. Okay. So, I don't want to hand that around. Um, and the neighbor has retained Crystal Ryan's counsel. Yeah, we got a we got uh property for that. Is that a I sent it to you guys. So, I've been in touch with Crystal. Yes. Um, and we are going to create a maintenance and access easement for that. You're looking at Yep. So we expect that would be a condition of the approval that prior to signing the flat. We have to enter into that maintenance and access agreements.

You know if for example on our two lots if the sewer line breaks we have to fix it within a reasonable amount of time likely immediately it's a sewer issue. Um same thing with burn line and so forth and so on and talks about costs. Um and that's being negotiated between the neighbors. Okay. Any questions from the planning board? No. Someone's reading. Any questions from the public? How about the public online? Oh, we don't have that. We don't have that ability. We don't have that ability. They only could see it. We can't say no. That's Yeah, it was noticed that by any um Okay. So, any questions for the planning board?

So, making a condition. So, we're going to make a condition of approval. the easement that you're going to give her and the conditions thereof at the maintenance agreement. Yep. Yeah. It'll be a it'll be one document. It'll be a access and maintenance easement that will be signed by both parties and we'll record it in uh Columbia County's office. All right. We do have a resolution.

Okay. So, let's Okay, so I I have one typed up way in advance. Um but this was I haven't I apologize. I just got this. Can we all just quickly go the board asked for this and I also want to be clear so sorry to speak for the board but can someone please go through this for me and the board can just like go through the lines and they're connected to yeah I think I just go through it quickly make sure your engineer brings it in sense sure just to run it quickly hold Where are we here? Who's the engineer on this?

So, it's uh Ostrafeld is Oh, so he's not here. Okay. So, but you could do it, right? Okay. Yeah. I wear many hats. Okay. Um the the mission was to to draw out the utility lines. So, we can see where the utility lines in old city like Hudson utility lines are usually all over the place. So, you can see here they added the sewer line. So, the sewer line comes off of Prospect Street. Wait, which way? Always pull it this way. Yeah. So if you're on pro upside down. Oh, you're upside down. You're upside down. Oh, that's why I have a head. Okay. So upside down.

So if you come off Cross Pros Street where the sewer line is, it goes across both the newly subdivided lots and then it pucks right into their house. Is this the line? Nope. It's the one that has the S on it. The sewer line goes street cutsc it goes into the middle of the street. So it runs the sewer main is in the middle of the street and then cuts off and it goes right down to the front yard.

Just to clarify the only thing you're sharing with I can't is it 68 is the sewer. The water line cuts before it and their water line comes from the other side. Is that correct? Their line comes off of Pit Street or her line. Our lines come from Prospect. So do you do share the same sewer because it cuts under their Okay. But where are you showing that her line comes in from? You don't know the water. Yeah. You're just saying that it does. Right. How about a sewer line? Where does it come from? Oh, it cuts all the way across to her. Wow. It goes through both houses and then hers. And then hers.

I don't see the under. Are you sure it doesn't underch? It goes under the Is that the little U right here? Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's the little U. Okay. So, it stops at her house. Yeah. Well, it goes into her house. You think they're all same? One at a time. So, so if you have a claw so he can start And then it potentially could back up into prop before the connections are made.

So a clog would happen before it actually leaves the house. So that would if the line itself in the front yard is backed up, that would affect all three depending on where it is. Yeah. So how like if that if that happens, who's the response to me? That's what we're That's what we're going to set forth. That's what the cleaner is for. Okay. But I mean essentially because any backup's going to affect everyone. So it's going to be here probably likely a third third houses are like this. Sorry. Nice to know.

Do all three homes share the same lateral connection? That's what I believe we're depicting. Sewer comes in. Sewer comes in. Sewer comes in. Yes.

Oh, you I guess this lateral connection ends. houses very interested in this one housekeepid. off.

What's that? Should be six inches. It was a single service for 1,000 has been upsized and support as far as I know. I saw the house. I guess my question. Do you have recommendations for the board or do you think it's by continuous? It's existing. It's not how I would recommend doing a new service.

What is the Christian? What did you say about the piping? I couldn't hear because they were talking something about that it should be in this is probably four. If it's a single service to a single house, typical size is about 4 in. When you start combining more homes. Mhm. It should be upsized to a 6 in. Okay. Um, so that's why I was curious, is it a 6 in or is it a 4 in? Um, because if it was originally for just one house, your problem was put in just as a 4 in. It's 4 in. Um, but Walter said it's a 6 in. So, and there's no proof of where her water is coming in. Where's their water coming in? That's the one about the prospect.

Is that this one? It's the line of W's W. Oh, I see. I see it. And that all goes to one house, right? There's two water. Oh, I see another one. Oh, I see. Amazing.

So what is the plan?

So we'll enter into the ease of agreement. So as far as protection go if that line ever breaks, cracks, gets plugged up, um it has to be remediated and there'll be time frames when you have to react. You have to notify notify her on our property. on her property. She's got it going by us. Who's responsible for it? Um, so that's what we have to negotiate with parties. It's probably likely going to be uh, you know, a third, a third, a third depending because you have to set up for a series of events depending on where it breaks, right? And no one should be able to prevent access to the property

using private agreement that the pling board will not enforce. So even the conditional I'm not going to review it or whoever the you know probably whoever the attorneys in the private office be reviewing it just because it's private between entities. So really what you're looking for is to ensure that proof of recordation that they have this agreement but the terms will be up to the buyers of the property and don't forget we're we're fixing an existing problem. So right now that's how it's operating and there's no easement agreement in place. So so I have a question. So how do you write that up? Do you write that a condition of just that the parties will will negotiate the uh

Oh, what I have is proof of recordation of an access and management easement for all shared utilities. I can tweak the writing. It's a live document, but and all that's saying is I that a proof of the like that you reported an easement. The terms of the agreement is up to them because this is not city property. It's their property. Um and I mean if you know if the neighbors want to make it one-sided, they can. And yeah, the reason and then you want proof recordation rather than just the easement because you want to make sure they're recorded so it's legally binding. Just just one quick question. So the number of houses the units in each are they single family? Yeah. Yeah. So it's you'll have one single family resident on each spot.

And how many bedrooms? Both three bedrooms. 70 is a twobedroom. 72 is a threebedroom and what is her and what is her I don't know I'm just saying because I was thinking pro proportionately you can do you can do a third to third a third but if one property is increasingly larger than the other or uses more so like prorated right yeah that might be more but that would be amongst them to deal with I'm not I'm not the one in my firm that writes the easements we have a transactional attorneys that do that but I'm quite positives. We have templates on obviously.

Yeah. As long as there's equity. Oh, yeah. You're not trying to force the so that if Mrs. X had to fix the line that runs all the way back to Prospect Street by herself, she'll get out seven, right? The shares equally with the three owners. I think a third is equal because the houses are the same width and they're on equal side. So, right. But that doesn't but that doesn't denote the actual sewer usage of Water think we can find out if you want. Yeah. Have a bathroom. Just remember this is an existing condition.

Well, I understand. I'm just I I think it's just taking into account the lady came to us. She had existing problems. She wanted more time and we're going to make it conditional that you're going to make it equitable agreement. We don't want to screw the lady and say you're gonna say, you know, you're going to have a, you know, take it or leave it kind of. It should be an equitable. Oh, yeah. The I was emailing with Crystal Hines, her attorney, today. She said attorney, send it over to me. I'll look at it and then we'll just go back and forth. See, when she was here last month, she's by herself, but now she's taken attorney, Crystal Hines. So, and she wrote a um a letter today to me which has sent to the attorneys um that she's representing the woman and me the woman who be here today. So,

I just want to make sure your lawyers and her her as a lawyer for the for um what's her name? Miss I actually don't know her name for 68. For 68 the attorney for 68 will negotiate with the attorneys for 70-72. Yeah. So, and like I said that she's represent Teresa said she's represented by council and it's not a thing agreement that you can enforce. So, just so Right. So, Rex, we don't have any an ability to read into the agreement. Yeah. So, I'm sorry. They were talking. So, we don't have any ability to read into the agreement or have language so that say that the agreement will be at the

No, I think I mean because what's equitable, right? I mean, I think for you're assuming like it's up to the owners of the property, but might not be able to play. That's that's, you know, and I feel that if she had an attorney, let the attorney do that. That's not our That's the attorney job paying to have that done.

So, I did not print because it wasn't We I didn't know this plan came in. I was driving when this came in. Um so I can read it to you and then you can vote on it just so you have a resolution otherwise there's no other items record. Okay so uh resolution grant and final plat approval whereas the applicant Galvan initiatives foundation has applied to approval to subdivide approximately 435T parcel and a few residential parcels at a property located at 7072 North Street in Hudson tax parcel 1145-27. Whereas on September 17, 2025, the applicant was granted the following variances by the Hudson ZBA of appeals. Um, one relief from 7.5 requirement on the north side of lot one, relief from 7.5 requirement on the south side of yard setback on lot two, a reduced lot size of 1950 ft, a reduced lot size on lot two of 285 square ft. Whereas the project is depicted on a subdivision plat entitled 7072 north fit in Foundation prepared by Vincent Osfield dated March 11th last revised December 6, 2025. Whereas the applicant has submitted a SEIF dated June 11th pursuant to SER. Whereas on July 8th the planning board classified the project as enlisted and declared his intent to service late agency. Whereas on October whereas on August 27th, the planning board serving as a JC coordinated a review and adopted a determination of significance and negative declaration and permanent that the project as proposed would not result in any significant adverse impacts in the draft environmental impact statement would not need to be prepared and whereas a duly noted public hearing of the project was held November 12th, 2025 to December 9th, 2025 during which all who wish to speak for now. shall therefore be it resolved by the planning board. Um hereby grants preliminary and final plat approval for the project as shown on the subdivision plat. Hold on as hold on as shown on the I have to change this as shown in the final plat. I made

uh key terms and authorizes the chairperson or her authorized me to sign the final plat um after compliance with the following conditions. One payment with fees and escrow. to proof of recordation of an access and management easement for all share utilities and do you want any other conditions or if that's sufficient? Did you put all um escrow? Yes. Number one, payment of all fees and escrow. Okay. And the fact that they have to come back to get their plan stamp. Yeah. So, in order for them to get their plan stamp, you're going to have to have a proof of they of a recorded fees, but so it has to be signed by both and recorded by the county.

Okay. I make a motion that be adopted resolution. And I second it. All in favor? I. Any oppose? Okay. So, we'll have that resolution to you probably to not tomorrow. Okay. Thank you so much. Oh, wait a minute. Hold it. Send me. Okay. Now, I have a resolution for them to replenish their escort. We have Okay. Um, I have resolution in here for 70-72 North Street to replace the escro. Right now, they're uh I mean, even after this, are you going to have to do any more? No.

So, we're uh the the um escro committee has um suggested $1,000 that comes to escro. Right now they they have 3,300 and a little bit more work needs to be done to make 4,000. They don't have the other 77. They have 53. Oh, they have $532. And we're asking for spend $1,000. You think that's enough? Yeah. Okay.

Very little. Okay. So, can I speak? Oh, right. Okay. So, so Jean is right now. They don't There's a bill coming in for $338 from Yeah. That's why I asked for a,000. Yeah. But then they only have $194 left. Yes. 1100 will be okay. Yeah. No, I don't have any more work on this. It's done. So, can I get a motion to approve the resolution for $1,000 for 70-72 North Street? 1,001. Uh, a,000. Yes. Make a motion.

Okay. No, I did. I second. Okay. Who said it? You did. No. Oh, you Jean, you made the motion, right? and Brandon. Okay. All in favor? I post. Okay. Now, guys, we have Can we get the $1,000 sign tomorrow? I don't pay that. You need the You need their um easement. Anyway, we'll get to you $1,000 as soon as we can. Like, what's that?

Like right now? because they don't know what's happening. I need a pen. Anybody has an extra point here? You can use Okay, so the resolution has passed. Thank you. All right. Okay. So, um, now did we close here? Can we close the public? We haven't even done that yet. Oh, shoot. We forgot to close the public prior to approving them. Oh, jeez.

We haven't closed it yet. So, close it. Yeah, we should have done it before. I'm sorry. It's my Christmas break. Okay. So, we can close it now, right? Yes, just close. Can I get a motion to close the public hearing on 70-72? That's not on my notes. Just gave you Jean. Okay. All in favor?

Oops. All right. Night is so loose. You're not paying attention. Okay. Good. Okay. Can I get a motion to open the public hearing for 724-726 Columbia Street? Motion team. All in favor? Good evening. But before we start,

I want to just go by their request. back in August, August, I think the 27th, I can't remember the exact date, but in August, we gave um 724-726, which is appearing on the escrow sheet 726 um a resolution to was it to establish?

No, it was replenish for 25,00 $25,000. Now, at the time we gave that, they had already owned $4,000 from the information Gina and I got. And now they're requesting if it can be reduced to 10. So, since we have made a recommendation, we're bringing it to the board. So, you guys want to reduce it to 10 and I get a motion to reduce the escro from 720 Ford 726 to 10,000. What's the balance? Uh, their balance, Jean, is $5353. 4,000 that paid. They must have paid it.

They only owe they owe us like 600 and they owe them not much either. It's under and what's what's the work for that? There's not going to tell you what is it doing is the escort person. There was $5,000 delivered today. Oh, yes. And $5,000 was delivered today. The receipt it over Yeah, they sent it. I sent it to you in the last the last hour. I sent it to you to get real bad. I'm not kidding. I was about to close everything and come over here and I saw it. But my question uh of the consultants is how many how much rot you have left?

I'm like I mean the besides writing a resolution, there's no legal percentages. I haven't reviewed the latest set of plans right now. 726 Colombia at a beginning balance on December 3rd. $53.25. Tonight's meeting there's going to be two bills 156 and 5375 leaving a minus of 15650. Okay. And they just said they dropped off 5,000. Yes.

And and and how much? and they want to be they want to be able to reduce it from a $25 le a $25,000 request to a $10,000 replenish request. So, they paid five today, they'll have to pay another five and that'll be $10,000. Is that adequate to cover? Yeah. Um, you could always reduce it and then if we get through the review and they need more money, we could always increase it again at that point. Oh, that sounds fine with that then. Yeah. All right. So, we're going to reduce it. All right. Um, can I get a motion to reduce the escro for 724 726 to $10,000? I make a motion.

I make a motion to reduce it to from what 15 from 25,000 to 10,000. All in favor? Any oppos? Okay. Now, you guys know that you can get your money back. Okay. We don't keep it. I was taught to never expect money back. Well, if you want to give it to the city. No, I think there's a but um you can request it once you get the plug from us, you request it. And I think there was also, you know, there are there are legal standards that apply to escro accounts. Yeah.

It's not just uh an open checkbook to request to make sure there's enough buffer. There has to be set standards. So before this last request, we've already supplied $15,000 of escrow that's been burned through. another 25 on top of that without any true explanation of why is it that that $25,000 would have to be reached. Right? We're at the end of this process. I think done a lot of engineering review, a lot of parking review, a lot of sewer review, sewer extension permit review. So really, and what we're going to tell you today is some good news that we're on the right track. I think it would bring us to a close. Let's see. Remember we gave you that in August and at the time we gave you that $25,000 repunish. We were already $4,000 in the whole from July, July, June. So that's where we got 25 from. So at that time, we didn't know how much review you had. Now we're in December and you're saying, "Hey, you know, we didn't go through it." So, and to put it into perspective, I've done a lot of very large million square foot Amazon distribution center and a $25,000 escrow charge, a one-time fee for even a project of that size would be absurd. Um, and we're not even building anything here,

right? We're re revitalizing. You could have said that at the time we hosted but I think also right you know I think Randall was getting to the point and was asking questions like are we close to the final assessment of everything so that makes more sense that we reduce the amount so you know and we don't like coming back. We want to make it so that we don't but like you said it was your third Yeah. Okay. So we move on from that. Um and now you ready to

Yeah. I'm ready. Um, so to refresh everyone's memory because we haven't been here in a while, 724 726 Columbia Street. It's the vacant portion of the building next to Return Brewery and it's proposed to be a theater assembly hall and eating and drinking establishment. So, uh, the plan is to renovate the existing interior building. No outside structures are being built, just utilizing the existing structure. It'll be approximately 4,925 square ft of theater space, 2,825 square ft of restrooms, kitchen, office, and utility rooms, and 2100 square ft of our proposed bar lounge space. Um, well, I think it was in July actually, we went back and forth of how do we deal with Long Alley? if you could

pull up. Initially, our plan was to do a land swap with Guang Island with the city council. And didn't you get that permission? Yeah. So, now um the end of August, August 19th, the city council did a negative declaration. They did the land swap and now all we have to do is the closing, but we have to wait for this board's uh lot line adjustment approval. Did you pull up the site plan? Uh was going to finish that off cuz they Yeah. So the way that is the this city I was part of it and they stop. So the way Long alley goes straight

but over time people have to turn at the end of Long Island. Exactly. They turn onto Galvin proper instead of going straight on the city property. So we have traded lands with the city so that now when you turn that city in the straight somewhere and this also fixes another planning board concern because

if we had it coming straight with a new curb cut our main entrance was right there. So the worry was that people would walk out right yeah rightfully so. So now we have this area will now be cityowned. There's an existing curb cut here. Cars will come in. going to pull out if they have to or garbage trucks, whatever it may be. There's a set of ballards here. This is still now the main entrance and almost like a little pocket park. And we we said go one way. Which way is it coming out to Columbia? Okay, good. One way, isn't it? No, it's both ways. That's crazy. It is. Well, I don't know if it's both ways both ways. But for the cities making it one way because they're the only ones that have that power.

Oh, right. It's the city. So, so we have um Crawford Associates had talked with Rob Harry at Department of Public Works. Okay. And he I believe looked at everything. Josh, correct me if I'm wrong, and didn't see any problem. Okay. One way. Does that have to be approved by the police commissioner as well? That I don't know. Involved with the traffic. I'm not sure, but the city would have to put signage to make it a oneway. Like they're not they don't have the ability to put signage. Traced on that. And why and why did they want a oneway going into um Green Street, going out to Green Street rather than going in and over to uh who would that be? Uh

six. No, that's you're coming in on Seventh Street behind the convenience store. You're going to hook a right and come out on the Columbia Street. It's supposed to be from Seventh Street straight out to the corner of Green and Columbia. Yeah, they're chang they're changing that now. Well, they're changing it to what? To this. So So we're the alley right of way. You can just see where my fingers are going. Yeah.

Was like that. Now that's not even legal because now you have to have a 90 degree intersection. You can't come in. that would kill like half the people coming out of there, right? So, a long time ago they switched it de facto. So, all we're trying to do is I guess record the fact that this is pretty much how the traffic my only question is the proposed one way. Is it going to be like when you come down the street and you make a right onto to that or do you make a left? I I have to be honest and say I haven't been part of the oneway discussion. No, it's okay. The one way is Seventh Street. When you go into Seventh Street, you make the left into it and come out on Columbia.

The alley is two ways, right? Correct. You reduce it. And so we're basically, if you will, the only part of the alley we're changing is right here further. And then so we're hooking it a little closer this way. So we're No, I get that. I get that. But that but that's a city question anyway. Which way? Exactly. So we're not We can't say one way this way, one way the other way. Well, well, you could Put your two cents into as to whether you want the one way coming from Columbia to 7th or from seventh to Columbia. Well, they said 7. Have you driven that alley? Oh, I've been there. Okay. I think that the place to the garbage truck.

Oh, don't come through it at all. It's a little bumpy to put on the pavement. Yeah. The whole thing. We're not going all the way down. We also don't own Oh, so the alley is a public road. It's not their property. So like the city maintains the alley, the city maintains the paving. Um so there maybe they go a little but you know projects new projects that's coming in. There's no issue when when they give the city a little bit. There's no problem with that. In other words, if they want to pave the city road with the DPW saying, "Okay, there's no problem with that to use their money to do that. give back something. We're giving

Some of us have put our own sewer lines in. That's right. So, you know, when we ask for things, we ask we want to protect our city. If you can do it with your money, trust me, one way or the other that that's what we want to get and that's between yours and we can put a note on. I just think that it should be going the other way. be coming out not under to the major road but to the to the No, that's a Okay, I I want to say you know why I kind of disagree because that seventh street is a one-way street and it's a smaller street and it's got parking on both sides where Columbia Street is a much wider street. It gives them more chance to see what's coming than that seventh street. I think it's busy. Well,

it's also a lot busier though. Yeah, that's Columbia. No, I would say Columbia right there. So you think you should turn in also? I don't really know. I can see your perspective cuz you're thinking about being able to see, right? Being able to see and wait and watch the car. So it gets very busy right there. Say we people standing before you asking for your permission to have control over this, but we do not have control over. So So we'll let you be the W basic. There's also a dumpster on one of the neighboring properties that the only way you're going to be able to get to it is if you're coming from um the railroads to get into it.

So that's that they got to work that out. What enclosures facing that direction? Oh yeah, we made that happen when they had their planes. Oh, did you? Yeah, that was the uh brewery that we turned Yeah. using a gas station. And maybe it's the gas station. The dumpster is just Oh, it is the gas station. Yeah. Right now it's scary to be illegal and not to find urban space. So here we are. This is going to be one of the better things we do than sphere. I think they fix the little right off the big square.

And and so and we we talked about exits and you agree. Yes. out the back, right? So that's all I I think unless you have engineering issues, I thought we were all kind of Yes, I have not reviewed the plan the latest fun because that's where we're still in the quiet top. They're 5,000 for that. Yeah,

but but because we I was just questioning the the just the exiting of the people and so you're going to are you going to allow them to use multiple doors? So we all come out. We have to. But your point was you'd like to encourage it and we agreed. This is the principal theater exit here because it's a large capacity exit directly out. This is return room. Perfect. Right. Good for the business plan. This is the secondary exit here also off of that. And then of course we do have this plaza which leads to a sidewalk. So I think these are now thanks to this situation very

okay. So um any question any more questions from the planning board? Any questions from the public that's here? This is for 724-726 Columbia. What do they call it? The foundry. They call it the foundry. Sorry. So, um, what more do we have to do with this, Kristen? You have to review it. I have to do the latest review and once those comments, you know, as long as they address those, the board can approve them.

You guys, you know, we did do a lot of stuff with this one before they went to to public hearing, which was good. So, do you guys really there's no there's if we approve it without Christian looking at it, which I do not recommend because drainage in my understanding is an issue for this project. I'm speaking for him, so correct me if I'm wrong. Drainage is a concern. Um I wish like from legal's perspective there's no reason you can't but but we can close the public hearing

you. Yeah. So my suggestion is um to close the public hearing and in the new year you know hopefully the board will just approve it with a list of engineering conditions if needed. Um yeah I'll just highlight for Christian's benefit in the boards we also did submit vehicle turning movement plans. Yes we did. Um as that was requested. That's also kind of a super element. The good thing about this project, a lot of work was done before that came to public hearing, which is what we was aiming for all last year with a lot of the project. I'm a fan of that. So, it doesn't stay in public hearing for months and years.

Let me tell you, the only thing about closing the public hearing and the I don't know, you know, going into the new year, you know, who's going to it sounds like certain people are leaving the board terms are up and I don't know who's coming back. So, you know, there will be new board members. That's the only bad side, only downside of closing the public hearing, which I think the board's totally fine to do, but there is going to be catch up in the new year for the new board members, which is fine. I mean, it's up to the board. But that's the only downside. But in terms of whether it's ready, I think if you had a letter, I would approve it tonight. You just don't have it. So, you're just going to have to wait till I will close it, I think. Okay. Can I get a motion to close the public hearing for 7:24-726? Okay. Commando J.

All in favor? Any oppose? We could close. Thank you. Everyone will review your start. Get back to you and you got until December 31st with me. But if does the board have another meeting or no? Okay. Is that Do you want I was going to say I don't want one. I I want to say Mary and don't forget to ask five. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Okay. Now we got 519 Columbia Street. Good evening. Um, this is just for a building news change abuse by Henry. Yeah. Yeah. Um so we are here for 519 Columbia Street. Uh we had submitted uh um our response u back from was that ago where we

correct? So, we had a meeting after our last uh planning board meeting uh with with the uh city attorney and uh Christian and we talked through a uh talk through the outstanding items that were questionable. Uh we have submitted our response uh through the uh plan board portal and we also submitted the uh written waiver that was requested for the uh loading birth. We've updated the EIF. We've checked off all those boxes. Um and I know Christian had just uh submitted uh his response which was that he had no other engineering concerns. So, um I guess I will open it back up to the board to see what

now. Did every um Christian gave us this letter today. Did everybody I sent it out to every it was in me and CL address all the outstanding engineering comments. Um the loading birth I actually think they have it in the back. I think that area it's close. It's Yeah, it's on the borderline if it's not there. Yeah, I put in your resolution which up to the board, but your resolution does approve me because it's pre-existing. So, I don't know why you wouldn't like you can't force him to make more space if he doesn't have it because it's pre-existing, right? I'm looking for where you upload those drawings. Yes. I haven't seen that. There's also renderings of the building elevations.

They've been uploading stuff for the last two weeks. Yes. Every time you know the plug came in, it was 519. 519. If you drive the building, the awnings are up already. Yeah. And we had voted last month not to do a public hearing on Correct. So, um, this is the report that you sent in today. Yes. There we go. What work did you do on it? is did you approve it or yes it doesn't say that you approve it on the bottom of it does it say based on BL's review of the record documents has no further engineering comments

correct please feel free to contact our office that mean that means everything's addressed okay you you addressed it correct and you have no problems with it correct so you want to see everybody anybody else want to see it I sent it to it was he uploaded Okay. So, um, any more questions from the planning board about 519?

Yeah, you. So, I handed out the resolution for everyone. It's in front of you. It should be yours. Okay. And I handed you as well. Can you read the resolution? Yeah. Hold on one second. I understand. Hello.

But everyone should have got it. Oh, you can come back. Okay. Ready. All right. Resolution granting sitement approval. Whereas Kevin Kevin Engineering has applied for site approval for a change of use of a 5306 foot warehouse for retail use. uh whereas the project is depict where the project is located at lot number 1145-168 more commonly known as 519 Columbia Street in the central commercial district whereas pursuant to 32414 of the zoning law retail stores and banks are permitted in the central commercial district and whereas the project is depicted on a site plan entitled 517 519 Columbia Street prepared by complimented architecture dated November 2625 sheets A001 through A004 A201 in 2025 11:25 lighting spec sheet. So both those sheets, it didn't have a special name in the lighting sheet. Whereas the applicant has submitted a short environmental assessment form dated October 3rd. Whereas on October 4th, the planning board classified the project as an unless action, declared its intent to service in the agency. Whereas the planning board has reviewed the EAP and all available information concerning potential impacts and found the project uh planning board has sufficient information for based on determination of significance. where the planning board has considered the criteria contained in six NYCR 17.7 and thoroughly analyzed all relevant areas of environmental concern and whereas the project was referred to the Columbia County Planning Board pursuant to section 339M of the municipal law which responded on October 21st 2025 that the project was a matter of local concern and whereas by email November 26 2025 the applicant requested a loading birth waiver pursuant to 203 of the zoning law um Whereas no survey has been submitted by the applicant and therefore the planning board does not authorize or endorse any existing encroachments. And whereas all signage must be in compliance with chapter 244 of the city Hudson code and may require a sign permit from the sector. And whereas prior to the issuance of a building permit the for the project, the applicant must demonstrate compliance

with these conditions set forth as evidenced by the endorsement of the chair of her authorized designate the site plan. Now therefore be it resolved, the planning board hereby adopts a negative declaration in terminating that the project as proposed will not result in any significant environmental adverse environmental impacts and that a draft environmental impact statement will not be prepared. Be a further result of planning board hereby grants the loaning birth waiver request pursuant to section 32520B3 of the zoning code. That's a mistake. Yeah, you said 25. It's three. Yeah, I'm adding that change please. So what is it? What's it's 32520B3 back off of me? I apologize. 325-23 and I will update this in the put the three in there. Y

and I'll just change that or she said that um be a further resolve that the planning board chair by grants final approval of the site plan set and authorizes the chair over a designate to sign the site plan after compliance with the following conditions. Payment of all freeze of escar and the escro is what $5,000

um a revision of the site plan set to include a dumpster enclosure to the satisfaction of the pling board engineer. confirmation of the plate board engineer that the applicant has obtained a sewer extension permit from the city of Hudson and approval of the sewer connection as part of the city's speedy permit by DEC. Um Hudson historical preservation commission approval of all exterior changes. This is in it's my understanding this is in the historical district based on the email from Craig. If that's wrong just show us but that's why it's on there. Revision of the site plan set to the satisfaction of the planning board engineer as I follow clarification of proposed water treatment between the building and prison alley. Label sidewalk dimensions and proposed materials for the sidewalk. Provide what? They're labelled. They're lab. Okay, I'll take that out.

And the dumpster enclosure be so dumpster closure if they're proposing um garbage cans like residential. That's why I didn't see it. Okay, I'm going to pick that up. Okay, this is why I just took Christian's letter and was I figured he told me to cut it as we went. Number two was cut. The whole dumpster two was cut. Two was cut because it's been met. Okay. Okay. Number two, Mr. I think it's okay to put it. Actually, no one put something. I think you should put it that way. They can't put a dumpster. Okay. Um, what do you want me to put? Um, a condition that no dumpster is being proposed. That no dumpster is allowed on the site.

Can I have another plan? This is great. Um, okay. Hold on. So it will read revision of the site plan set. So this going to be a condition. Which one? Number one to So I'm revising number two. Okay. Revising number two. Set. Not revising the site plan. You're just saying that no to include a note to say to include a note to state um no dumpster is being proposed. No dumpsters allowed.

No dumpsters allowed. um addition of a dumpster enclosure like a mobile fire set in it. Dumpster and that's for the back where the alley is. Yes, they do have an invitation but I think that's where they completely call me. Okay, so I want to read this just so because I think there's some confusion. Okay.

B so B and further resolve the approval of the plan set and authorize the chair author Disney to sign a site after finds of the following conditions. So one stays the same payment is being escrow. Two is going to now say revision of the site plan set to include a note to state no dumpsters um allowed um addition of a dumpster enclosure will will require site plan amendment. It's a tight space. So that's I understand that's why I think has that concern. It's very tight screening so you don't have just dumpsters. Yeah. Otherwise, otherwise they're going to have the ability because that's not a significant change, but if you put it as a condition, it is a significant change. Otherwise, the building inspector will have, you know, they have that decision rather than the word. Um,

and then the the city requires the speedies three, so that has to stay. Four, obviously, if he could prove it's not in the HPC, that's fine. But I think it is. Five. So, we're going to get rid of B clarification. The proposed water treatment is still staying, but B label, they did label the sidewalks, so that's all fine. C, provide details on new concrete, sire, and they're there. Okay, so C is going to be deleted. And so B, correct? B and C. Correct. So add I didn't see the addition of the spot elevations. Did you see it? They didn't do spot elevation. So you have to start. Okay. So they put some notes on there for 3%. Is that submission? All right. Sander said submission. So get rid of D. A

is going to B is going to. So B, C and D. And then E. Do you want a turning diagram or you done? They're you're not putting a dumpster. So they can pull the hands up. So the I did not realize. I thought you were still doing the dumpster. I still left. So B, C, D, and E are all gone. Show me. Show me. So only I think I have a question. So yeah, sorry the engineer didn't get a chance to look at this, but I'd rather be thorough. So and that's so um any questions then the applicants

the uh HBC uh comment or whether we're in the overlay or not is that who do we because I think it's it's my belief that we're not that. So if Craig all you have to do to get this approved if besides you know the others the sewer I we confer with D you're going to do the sewer. So um but for Craig just email him saying hey I believe we got a comment that this may be in the historical is it does this require it and if he says no good and then you just show the email it's forwarded to the board. Okay.

And then and like I said I apologize if it's not I have an email saying it extends all the way up Colombia but then I have an email that says it doesn't. So I can't tell so it's a little confusing. I'd rather email Craig and get Craig has the final pass and I'll forward that or I'll put that upload that to the web. You'll see that I I don't think it's both sides but both's

there's a comment that this is in the district from someone so I'm being safe. I'm not 100% sure but it's very easy to verify. We just didn't have the time and who knew this. And then the other question I had was about the speedies thing and is that something that we were going to be able to make as a needs to be addressed before the building permit. Was that something that we could do a great job last week? Okay. So if the as long as the engineer agrees to it prior to a building permit yeah it's out of here at least and then Okay. Okay. So what we're going to do then is sorry guys. All right. We got to change this one more time.

Replace B. So okay. So, it's going to read the same as it's just going to have 1 4 5a and then three is going to be a condition of building permit. So, it's going to say be it further resolve. Be it further resolved and you will get a copy of this.

Yep. Hold on. I'm rewriting it. Be it further resolved. Um uh the planning um uh be it further resolves. Uh, the planning board hereby requires the planning board hereby requires three confirmation of the planning board engineer that the applicant has obtained a sewer extension permit from the city of Hudson and approval of the sewer protection as part of the city's speeding permit prior to the issuance of a building permit. And I can read this all again for you to keep it clear. Okay, perfect.

If you'd like. Yes. Okay. just read the bottom part that you changed. Is that okay, Dad? Yeah. I just Sorry to It's all over, but this was, you know, trying to get things done for the new year. Okay. So, one stays the same. So, one staying the same, paying fees and escrow. Two is going to be revision of the site plan set to include a note to state no dumpster allowed addition of a dumpster enclosure will require a site plan amendment. Three is gone. Four, Hudson Historical Preservation Commission approval of all exterior changes. That'll stay. Yeah, that'll stay unless someone unless you all don't think it's in there and I'm wrong. In which case, we don't know because I don't think it's on Columbia on both sides, but I don't know.

Yeah, my email was confusing. It was not clear to me based on the email. So, um and then Okay. And then five is just going to be revision of the site plan set to include to the satisfaction of the engineer that clarification the proposed water surface treatment between the building and prison alley. And then be it further resolved that the pling board hereby requires prior um requires confirmation by the planning board engineer that the applicant has obtained a sewer extension permit from the city and approval of the sewer connection as part of the city speeding board by DEC prior to the issuance of a building permit. Yes. Okay. And that they have to come back and stand get their plan. Well, that's always a priority. No, put it in there because a lot of people don't know. Well, we've put it as a Okay, good. Cuz a lot of the applicants are not.

So, yeah. So the way that will work is like you said, you'll be able to come get your plan stamp, but until you pull the building permit, you're going to have to work with the city engineer to make sure that you get the DEC extension. And the reason for it is I believe your flows increased because of the change of use. Your retail has an additional increase. Yeah. I Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Because uh confusion is with the resolutions being the total approval. It's not. The resolutions is approved where now you just get your condition right then you come back and get your stamps then you supposed to go to the building the code enforcer for the building permit and there's a little confusion with that. So if we get

these items addressed we get the plans stamped by you and then you take those stamp plans to the code for and we use those when we file for and then he gives you a building permit when we file for the permit. We don't file for the permit for Yeah. four months. We hang on to those plans till we file for them. Yes. They don't they don't expire in the city of Hudson. So you get the plan stamped in that then I mean I don't know what the lag time is and for it was really slow for the speedies program for a while but I think they've since they sp a little bit. I talked with someone at the BC about this briefly and we've got some things moving about that. Okay. Yeah. There shouldn't be a problem. Okay. So, um, a motion to approve this resolution as, uh, directed. And

um, I make the motion to approve this resolution as amended and directed. Okay. And I'll second that. Okay. I will say all in favor. I oppose you. I will send you. Okay. You'll send that. Does that get uploaded to the Yeah. So I'll I have to type these changes and then I'll send them to her and then she can get it to I will get them all uploaded and you'll get a copy of it. Where is it in the resolution say that the change of use is approved? It's the

So So the way it works and that's a good question. So the change of use required site plan. So the change of use isn't necessarily what's being approved. It's the site plan was triggered by the change of use. So yeah, this says your site's approved. Gotcha. Thank you. Okay, you finished. Public documents. There's nothing what says. So the document are site plan. Remember if they were already a retail use, they actually wouldn't need site plan available. The only reason they have a forge forward and it's a change of use which under your code requires a site plan. But if this was already retail, they wouldn't leave a site plan.

So now they could have any business. tomorrow they wanted to make something that the that the city of declares retail. You don't have to come back for the night again. All right. That's great. Wonderful. Now we're going to go through um eso. Thanks for being a good resolution. You send me all of Yes. I send you all that. Okay. Now, Jean, you have we have some we have some resolutions here to replenish Estro because um

okay, we want to end this year with a on a good note that a few of you will still be here. So, we have a resolution for um the boulevards which is 117, 119, and 121 Fairview Avenue and two and four Parkwood who has already been in front of us. They've had a public hand. It's been closed and we are asking them to only $1,000. 10,000. Oh, that's 10. Good. That's what they have their balance, but they Oh, oh, they're not dumb, too. I don't even have And I don't think I can hear

they have a balance. 433. They're not done. So, okay. So, we're asking that they require the escro in the amount of $10,000. Can I get a motion to approve this resolution to approach escrow for the boulevards is what we call it. Okay. Second. A second. Okay. Um, all in favor?

Any oppose? Okay. These pens are not writing. Anybody got a pen that writes? No, mine was writing. I gave you. Okay, that's number one. Okay, the next resolution is requiring um 21 North 6th Street, which is the Hudson Monica. That's that church on the corner of six in uh six in six in Columbia. Six.

Yeah. To replenish their escro for $1,000. They owe the uh attorneys and um they've already been approved for them. I think their plans. No, they haven't been stamped. The only condition,

right? The the resolution has been approved, but the plans have not been sent. And this is what I'm saying. A a lot of our applicants are getting lost with this. They're thinking that they have the resolution, that's it. So they some of them not responding to our resolutions. They're not coming back. So um I'm just leaving this on the record that 21 North 6th Street plans have not been stamped. They have not um addressed their conditions on their resolution and they have to replenish and we're asking them to $1,000. Can I get a,000?

1550. $315. Is that enough? Now we have a balance of $315. Yeah. A thousand. I only have a bill of $400. They're done. I just don't I haven't been paid. You're still coming on. Yes. Okay. Can I get a motion to um accept this resolution? Yes. Jean. Yes. So I went through I went through our bills and I talked to Christian when I drafted these like what we have to what's outstanding. Yes. So the amount was something I used the billing to determine. Good. Okay. The next resolution.

Oh. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay. The next the next resolution. We're going to miss that cough. Help me. That's some cough. Every time we do it, it makes me I wish she was gone. Okay. Um the next um one is 601 Union Street and we have given them resolutions that I don't think they've answered to engineering outstanding. They haven't easement outstanding. They have a lot of outstanding right and this is not the first one we've given them but they're not responding. They are going to ADI, right?

They're going to but I they're in process there. Well, actually they're in consideration. So, they want money from IA and will can they use that money to can they use that money to replenish the escro? So, the city is the county is bringing the city back. I don't think I don't think they broke several but I want to make sure that that's there because if they're going to IDA to get money, they already owe us 10, you know, quite a bit in escrow. I think Yeah. So, that money should not be used for escrow. I'm trying to No, no, I agree. I agree. But, but somebody should just contact the plan again.

Okay. Right now, their balance is in the red on $1125. Does nobody call them? We write we we upload it on their page and they should be looking at that because they don't have ST. It's your bill. Can you said you can't both I could reach out to Andy potentially they don't pay us. I know but still to say you know if it's outstanding with the city upon going I'll reach out to Andy and he could talk to his client and let him know that it's outstanding. I still know I've already talked to Chris. She's telling me she's going to get me the um she keeps telling me she's going to get me the uh easement for the sidewalk and she hasn't given it to me. Yeah, but they owe escrow. You won't you

Well, I'm aware. I told her that as well that they have been given it and they owe money. But right, so this is another we have we didn't did we approve this? No, we approved the resolution that we haven't stamped their plan. No, this is another where the resolution is approved, but the stamps have not been planned. So, it's not finalized, but they're not responding.

So, these are things that we must pass on to you guys to make sure they don't get by. Okay. You're saying that it's uploaded at the website. Is the secretary following up by sending them a letter? If it's they might not be looking at the website. So if a letter was sent to them by US mail, they got it. They know it.

Okay, that's something we can um say, right? You know that the secretary sent all of these people. Okay. All right. So, yeah, that's enough. So, can I get a resolution to approve uh to accept this resolution? Okay, I'll get a res motion to approve this resolution for 601 Music Street to pay $10,000 in the escrow. Haley, can I get a motion? Second. I need a second. Okay. All in favor? I I

Any oppose? Okay. Okay. We're going to do that next. Okay. The next one is is 10-12 Warren Street. That's the hotel. Okay. Uh we approved their resolution and the plan still have to be uh stamped and they still got a ways to go with Christian. So here's a resolution to I I need an easy and their balance is their balance is $8725us meaning oh mean okay they all okay

and and I need the ease vend for the um as well and this is a resolution for them to escrow at $10,000 okay um so can I get a motion to accept this resolution a motion. A second. All okay. $10,000. All approved. I Any opposed? Well, how much work is left again? How much work is left? There's some minor engineering comments review

$10,000. Yeah, they can get the money back. And they owe it money from, you know, see the thing is they can get the money back. Then you don't we don't have a escro clerk here. We are doing this ourselves. So if we make the escro big enough, we don't have to keep coming back. Yeah. So you know we have to this is the the cost of doing business. They owe us $600 before this bill before our next bill. And this is the cost of doing business. They all understand this, right?

I should start running a bail bonds from like operations. I didn't do anything. Okay. Now, um Jean just thought of something. Um can we get a a um a motion to ask the secretary to send a letter by mail to each of these applicants that owe us money. That's outstanding. Certified name. Yeah. Okay. So, Jean, you you Okay. Who's second? I second. All in favor? Any oppose? Okay. So, I have to write that down.

Okay. That she should send a letter and she's on today, so she'll see it at the end to send a letter to each one of them notifying them of the Osc. And I'll reinforce this by sending her email and CCing everybody of who we're talking about. Okay. All right. That's good. Okay, Chief. You have any minutes to

minutes? Bills for tonight. RCP dated December 5th, 2025 5,638.14. Bill number two born and one more time. I like how he said dated December 9th, 2025 10,000 $797.50. That's it.

A motion a motion to a motion to approve my job. A motion to approve the bills. Motion. All in favor? Any opposed? And approve of these bills are the bills that the escro pays. Okay. And then for the escrow balances, Paluso who's done both bills, they're minus $6,59.84. They gave they paid 15,000 today. Yeah. Yeah. I had a resolution and then we started to play fee. They paid they paid which the resolution was for 15,

right? And they paid the 15,000 today. Uh 724 726 Columbia Street. Just as for just absolutely no uh Hudson Hotel Annex 1416 North Fourth Street. They haven't set their escro yet. They haven't heard. Yeah, we gave them initial escro of what 25 was 25 they just started. Yeah. 405 Columbia Street

601. And these are some of the these these applicants will be some of the applicants we're going to send out secretary to send out what we say certified mail. So before those Galvan projects the two that were named will be on the next agenda in the new year they need to pay before they reach their ne before they're on again the Hudson Hotel Annex and um 405 will need to pay their escrow. Okay. Right. Your official reviews have been done. Did we act upon that returning the escro list?

Oh, okay. Let's do this. Okay. I wrote a memorandum to have some of the escros returned. People have never asked for them, but I went through the list because it's the end of the year and try to clear up some of the escrow. And right now, we got three of 309- 311 State Street. They've already been stamped and everything. Um, I I don't say they're balanced because even though the clerk may give me a balance, it's it's up to them whatever is in there. Right. Okay. 7 Dock Street, long time gone.

Um, 726 Columbia Street, the Return Brewery, that's already open and running. Um, 241 Warren Street, that was the hotel. Remember the eight room hotel? We had an issue with them not having anyone there a long time ago. Yeah. Um the IDA project which is on North Second Street done uh 60 Front Street which is a recent approval but they've got their stamp and everything so they go uh 255-259 Union Street I don't know that was I think that was before my time.

Okay. And then 26 Street which was also a hotel. Okay. that I'm asking to have their escros approval. So you should make a motion and list the ones. So make a motion to release the following projects. State the projects. Release the following projects. Essor and just read them again or I guess or the ones that were said. But well, can I just make a motion to release the escar for the projects just listed by the chair? Yeah, that's fine.

Okay. And I sent this memorandum to the clerk uh to the treasur's office and our secretary. And the treasur office wants separate memorandums for each which the secretary has been already instructed to do from the one memorandum. So I make a motion. So I make the motion s that the secretary do. Uh okay. So that's good. So um can I get a minutes? No, no, no. Don't want to vote it. So, oh, you made a motion to say the motion out loud cuz I

made I made a motion to uh return the escrow unused escrow portions of the uh properties and projects that um the chairman just listed. Okay. Second. All in favor? Any oppose? Okay. Now, you're on the minutes. Minutes. Okay. Can I get Did everybody see the minutes for um November 12th and November 18th? Yes. November 12th and November 18th. Yes. Anybody any questions? Just one type of graph. Okay.

November 12th uh public hearing down here. Just got the wrong date. That's fine. Okay. So we we're asking that the minutes be amended to show a correction for the public hearing for um 772 to December 9th. It was this the ethn. So Linda should so Linda should revise the minutes for for November 12th to revise the 7072 to include the proper public hearing date of today which was December 9th. This is she sent this out as a draft. Yeah. So, it's a draft. So, you just you're telling her to revise it, right? I'm just telling her. She's on Zoom. So, I'm just clarify.

So, it's to to approve the revised minutes, right? Okay. All right. So, can I get a motion to approve the uh minutes as revised? I may make a motion to approve the minutes as revis. All in favor? Any oppose? Okay. Can I get a motion to adjurnn? I make that motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. Oh, nobody second. All in favor? Any oppose? I do. No.

Take care everyone. It's too early. Way too early. Where'd you get it? You can stay. instead