Town Council - Regular Meeting

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Yeah. Good evening. Uh, tonight is Monday, uh, September 22nd. We're at 39 circle for a regular town council meeting. If everybody arise and stand for the pledge of allegiance and the invocation, please. Giance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Pastor Neil God, we just want to thank you for allowing us to be here one more time. We thank you for your grace, your love, and your kindness. We ask you God to bless, move by your spirit tonight as we conduct town business. We thank you God for allowing us to wake up the right mind this morning. God the the gift you gave us this morning is called opportunity. Opportunity is something we can work with today. We just want to thank you for all you've done. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. You can be seated. Well council hopefully you've had a chance to look at the agenda. There's no deletions or addition. I'd entertain a motion to accept. So moved. Thank you. Pen will have a second. Second.

Thank you Tony. All in favor signify by saying I. I opposed. So carried. Council members, hopefully you've had a chance to look at the September 8th town council minutes in your packet. If there's no deletions or additions, I'd entertain a motion to accept. So move. Thank you, Eric. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Christine. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. So carried. Council members comments. We start with Ward one tonight. No comment. Thank you everyone for being here. Thank you, Christine. Ward two. It's grateful to be here tonight and thank you guys for coming tonight. Thank you. W two, Tony. Ward three, I just want to thank everybody for coming out this evening. Thank you, Eric. Ward four,

it's good seeing everyone this evening. Want to wish Mary Rogers a 100th birthday today. She was married to the late Clifton Rogers, which died in the line of duty of the Georgetown Fire Department, but she was 100 years old. So, the fire department unloaded the station and we just rode by her house and she had about 40 people out there. So, it was pretty nice. Nice. Thank you. Thank you, Daniel. I don't have anything. Moving on. Great fund committee fiscal year 2025 award recommendations. Jean,

members of council, item number seven on the agenda this evening is the fiscal item number six is the great fund committee fiscal year 2025 award recommendations. The fiscal year 2025 great fund committee held meetings on June 24th, 2025, July 17, 2025, August 18th, 2025, and September 4th, 2025. At the July 18th, 2025 meeting, presentations were made by each organization requesting funding from the great fund. This allowed the question allowed for questioning by committee members and discussion of each request. The committee met on September 4th, 2025 to discuss each request and based on this discussion, we are pleased to make the following award recommendations. First set is fiscical year 2025 appropriations. organization. The first organization is Asha Animal Welfare requesting $5,000. Recommendation award 2500. Clothing our kids requested donation or requested amount was 2,000 recommendation $6,452. Easter Seals requested $5,000. Recommendation is $5,000. Everlasting Hope Ministries requested $10,000. The committee recommends 6,000. First State Community Action Agency asked for 6,000. The committee recommends 6,000. Georgetown Public Library re requested 15,000. The committee recommends 15,000. Historic Georgetown Association requested 10,000. The committee recommends 5,000. La Asparansza requested 10,000. The committee recommends 10,000. Sussex Post number eight American Legion requested 3500. The committee recommends 5,000. The total amount requested was $66,500. The total amount that was available for distribution was $60,952. There is an attachment in your packet that uh is a detailed schedule

summarizing the above recommendations. The second um recommendation is excess funds allocation. The committee recommends the award of $75,000 towards the Parsons Lane trail head parking area project. And the third recommendation is suggested code revisions. The committee recommends based on this year's process, the following modifications to the existing town code, section 98-6.2b funding, applications that are received after the published deadline shall not be considered. And second, applications that fail to attend and present their application at the and request shall be disqualified from the granting cycle. Special thanks to committee members Adam Bachowski, Linda Dennis who was our chair, Renee Hickman, John Peterson, and Angela Townsen. Pleasure of the mayor and council on those three items.

Council members, any questions of Jean? Uh, no questions of Jean. So, I just want to thank everyone who served and thank you Adam on my behalf uh as as selected uh and all of those who were appointed for your time and uh Miss Dennis for once again uh joining up and clarifying or assisting to clarify further uh the great fund. We've come a long way. Thank you. Thank you, Christine. Tony, anything? Yes. Thank you, Eric. All the work you're doing. No, we need to make a motion on this. Daniel, anything? Thank you. Make a motion. Yeah, I make a motion that we um we receive the recommendations and move forward as proposed.

We have a motion. Do I have a second? On all three. I'm sorry. On all three. Christine second. All in favor? Second by saying I. I. Opposed. Let's do roll call. Ward one. I. W two. I. W three. I. W four. I. And I'm an I. 50. Thank you very much. Uh uh I hope people realize where that money comes from. where we get that money, where we gain that money from, that's from building permits that are issued by the town for the growth of the town. With every house, we put money aside for this and it's important that we continue that growth or that money is going to dry up. So, it's important that we continue to grow as a Georgetown. Moving on, circle advisory committee. Gene.

Okay. Members of council, item number seven on the agenda this evening is a circle advisory committee report recommendations and proposed circle monument and memorial policy. I'm presenting this evening on behalf of the chair of the committee, Mr. Mark Rogers. Uh some background, the committee was formed in um August of uh 2024. The initial focus of that time was safety, traffic um enforcement on the circle, education, traffic calming, and protection for the circle. The committee did meet a total of seven times. We had four meetings in 2024 and then we had an additional three meetings in 2025. So, some initial recommendations that came out of the first set was to replace all of our one-way signs that are at the entrances to the circle with chevron arrows. Um, that is complete. The um install roundabout ahead and 15 mile per hour signs as you approach from the four intersections uh mostly East Market Street, South Bedford, that is complete. Install roundabout ahead 15 mile per hour sign and a blinking light on West Market Street. That is complete. Uh install roundabout ahead 15 mile per hour sign and a speed flashing or speed feedback sign which would flash red and uh blue lights if you were exceeding the speed limit. That's in process. Install a new street light and that was at the North Bedford Street entrance to the circle. That's in process. and retain the services of the harbor group landscape architect and that was to master plan the monuments and crash protection that is complete. A proposed circle monument policy uh the committee recommends that only two monuments be um placed back on the circle. The first one is patrolman Chad Spicer's monument and the second one is Chief Harvey Greg's monument. It does outline a review and approval process for other types of monuments, in this case called memorials, to go onto the circle. And those memorials would be limited to one of four types. It would be a brass plaque, a paver or marker, a pa or brick, or a memorial bench. There's

illustrations of each of the four of those on the slide. Uh proposed code revisions. We'd like to see chapter 157, peace and good order. Specifically, articles 1 and two, section 157-1, sleeping on the circle prohibited, as well as article 2, section 157-3, sleeping in parks, changing it from 11:00 p.m. in the evening to 7:00 a.m. So, that is now going to be set at sunset to sunrise. Uh, the third one was to um promote and propose crash perimeter crash protection. This would complement the existing circle infrastructure. It would be focused on the four entry points which is where the vehicles have been entering the circle. It would be use of a traffic guard ballard. There's a sample of those. That is not the exact model that will be installed and that the design would be done by the town engineer. Uh what this shows is the circle as it's laid out today. Uh the two round circles is where we would relocate the uh Chad Spicer monument from the North Bedford Street intersection to in front of the planter and the Harvey Greg from the West Market Street entrance into the area by one of the other planters. Both will then have a view of the fountain when you're looking at the monument. They would be placed on a brick foundation. And then the last piece is at the box at the bottom is um the ballard protection for each of the entrances. and looking at all of the accidents, we never had anyone crash in from the area that does not have ballards, so it would be limited to those areas. I would like to thank um the members of the public who participated, Mary Lou Barry, Jane Hington, Charlie Ksky, Mark Rogers, Rick Thomas, Dennis Winsored, and the town staff, myself, Laura Given from finance, and chief home from the police department. That's all I have, sir.

Thank you, Jean. Council members, any questions, comments? Nope. Motion to accept. Motion to accept the policy. The recommendations and the recommendations. So moved. Thank you, Pan. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Christine. All in favor signify by saying I. Opposed. Roll call. Ward one. I. W two. I. W three. I. W four. I. And I'm an I. 5. Thank you very much, council. Moving on. Vehicle acquisition. Gene. Hey members, council. Item number eight on the agenda this evening is two vehicle acquisitions. The first one is for the wastewater department. The I'm going to I'm going to excuse myself from that. Okay.

The town solicited bids for a new wastewater department vehicle. This was approved as part of the fiscal year 2026 budget. Responses to the solicitation were as follows. First A Chevrolet, a 2026 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 four-wheel drive crew cab 147inch work truck, $47,359.90. Enterprise Fleet Management. A 2025 Ford F-150 XL 4x4 Super Crew cab. 6.5 or 6.5 foot box. 157in wheelbase $50,936. Enterprise Fleet Management 2026 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 work truck 4x4 crew cab 5.75 ft box 147.4 4 inch wheelbase, $48,93. Enterprise Fleet Management 2026 Ram 1500 Tradesman 4x4 crew cab 144.5 in wheelbase $50,193. Herrick Fleet Services 2025 Ford F-150 Super Crew four-wheel drive 157in wheelbase and a 6.5 ft bed, $49,445. Pricing was evaluated by the finance staff. the wastewater superintendent and myself. It is our recommendation that the award be made to First State Chevrolet in an amount not to exceed $47,359.90 for a 2026 Chevrolet Silverado. President of the mayor and council.

Council, any comments? No comment. With that, I'd entertain a motion. I'll make a motion. We go ahead. Um, all right. Eric, make the motion. Christine, you second it. Yes. Thank you. All in favor signify by saying I. I. the Silverado 1500 from Yep. I got a hit on myself. So, uh, okay. Can we share the Silverado? Is that what he's saying? Yeah. All right. With with that, let's do roll call. Ward one, I. W two. I. W three. I. And W four has left the room because of uh his business association with First State. And I sustain from voting at this time, but it is a 301 reading. So for state Chevy gets it.

Okay. Thank you. Come back Eric. Another vehicle. He's on not on that one though, is he? Should be out on all of them.

All right. Next one is a uh vehicle acquisition for victim services. The town solicited bids for new victim services vehicle using budget savings realized due to additional grant funding. The responses to the solicitation are as follows. Enterprise fleet management for a 2025 Chrysler Pacifica $46,85511. Herrick Fleet Services 2025 Toyota Sienna $39,916 and Pohanka Kia 2025 Kia Carnival $39,38. Pricing was evaluated by the finance staff, the chief of police and myself. It is our recommendation based on the vehicle availability that the award be made to Herrick Fleet Services at an amount not to exceed $39,916 for the 2025 Toyota Sienna. Pleasure of the mayor and councel.

Any questions, comments? Council? No. Entertain a motion to move forward with the purchase of 2020 2025 Toyota Sienna for uh from Henrik Herrick Fleet. I got that messed up. Hurt Fleet Services. Yeah. I'll make the motion that we purchase the 2025 Toyota Sienna from Herrich. Thank you, Eric. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Tony. All in favor signal by saying I. I I opposed. Roll call. W one. Hi. W two. I. W three. I. W four. I. And I'm an I 50. Thank you very much council. Moving forward resolution 20250.

Okay. Members, council item number 9A on the agenda is resolution 2025-05. This deals with the outdoor recreation parks and trail grant application. This is a resolution to acknowledge the submitt of the outdoor recreation parks and trails 2025 park grant application. Whereas the town of Georgetown continues to plan and develop recreational opportunities for residents and visitors. And whereas the town of Georgetown has land along Parson's Lane which it desires to be developed as a trail head parking area for the Georgetown to Lewis Trail. And whereas the town of Georgetown has filed an ORPT grant pre-application with the Delaware Division of Parks and Recreation for construction of the trail head parking area and has been authorized to submit a formal application in the amount of $100,000. And the town has funds from the fiscal year 2025 community reinvestment fund, prior OPT awards, legislative community transportation funds, and the Georgetown recreation education arts and trust fund to support the effort. And whereas the town of Georgetown designated Eugene Savorick Junior Town Manager to manage the project and coordinate OPT program requirements for reporting and reimbursement. And whereas the town understands that these improvements funded through the OPT grant program will remain in outdoor recreation uses in perpetuity. Now therefore, be it resolved by the town council of the town of Georgetown that the application for OPT grant funding for the Parsons Lane trail head parking area is authorized and the town of Georgetown so shall abide by all requirements of the OPT grant program for reimbursements and stewardship responsibilities resolved by the town council the town of Georgetown on the 22nd day of September 2025. Pleasure of the mayor and councel.

Thank you Jean. questions. Council, no questions. I do have a comment. Thank you for pursuing all of those grants. I are they all um they have our leeway with them or are they all due to be spent at the same time? Is there a chance that we may those may fall out? Do we may lose any granting? Yeah. Not that it's a lot of money. Um the bulk of it already been um put in the bank or is in the process of being authorized. Thank you. Thank to our legislators. Thanks to a lot of sources. Thank you for submitting those requests. You're welcome.

Okay. With that, uh I'd entertain a motion for uh to accept resolution 2025 outdoor recreation park and trail. I make the motion that we uh accept the 2025 proposal for the trail head Parson's Lane Trey Trey Parsons Lane Bicycle Trail. Second. Thank you. All right. There's Christine with a motion. Eric with a second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Roll call. Ward one. I. W two. I. W three. I. W four. I. And I'm an I. 50. Thank you very much. Council. Moving forward. Departmental reports. Town manager Jean Gene Deorn.

All right. Members of council couple items. Uh first update on the Sussex County Family Court Facility. Uh most of the general trades are now in punch list items. This includes flooring, windows, mechanical, electric painting, the casework, uh sprinkler is doing punch list items in the garage, and the elevator is currently doing the um testing and inspection. Sussex County um inspections that have been completed to date include Denre, the electrical inspection, the plumbing. They're in the process of completing the Dell DOT inspection, the elevators inspection, and the office of state fire marshall. and uh have pending after all of those other outside agencies are completed will be the town of Georgetown for certificate of occupancy pump station rehabilitation the um meadows and three bells are complete in process is the health unit and the big park this is um a picture on the right hand side of the new control panel at the um health unit and then a picture into the wet well uh project updates to Parson Lane trail head and parking area we did request community transportation funds, $50,000 from Senator Petty John, $50,000 from Representative Jones Gilner. We uh did submit a 2025 outdoor park outdoor recreation, parks, and trails grant application for $100,000. Uh the bids are due on October the 1st, 11:00 a.m. and we anticipate the project being awarded at the October 13th town council meeting. Uh project update on the salt barn. Uh the wall framing is currently underway. Um, as you can see, the um, ceette cement wall portion has already been poured and was reported previously. And general items, the America 25, America 250 committee will meet tomorrow here at town hall 3:30. Delaware League of Local Governments will meet Thursday the 25th in Dover. Sussex County Association of Towns will meet October 1st, hosted by the city of Seafford. Supportive housing issues committee will meet Thursday, October the 2nd here at town hall. and the Sussex County

Association of Town Steering Committee will be on Friday, October the 3rd at First State Community Action Agency. And the general assembly did have an extraordinary session today for approval of a uh new department head, the um Department of Veteran Affairs and um nomination reappointments. Pleasure of the mayor and council. If you have any questions, council comments, questions, Jean?

None. Okay, moving on. Chief of Police Ralph Home. Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh I have some good news to you uh for you to this evening for uh the state of affairs at the Georgetown Police Department. any stats related to this presentation will be uh covering May 26 through September 14th of this year. Uh first bit of good news is uh you'll notice on our uh organizational chart here, we have some uh is getting very busy and that's a good thing. Uh so uh the green uh officers you see over here, the two just graduated uh Friday evening from the Dover Municipal Police Academy, Sean Armstrong and Jamal Powell. Uh they came in today for their first day and uh we'll get them out and about to see everybody and I'll invite them to a council meeting as well. Uh the other green spot is a officer that we've hired. Uh he's a four-year veteran of the Milford Police Department and uh he's here this evening. I'd like to introduce uh Bradley Dryen. Uh and so uh his uniforms have already been uh ordered. Uh they're supposed to be getting delivered and he'll start October 6th. The large or orange block in the center there uh it used to have five names. Uh we sent five people to the Delaware State Police Academy that started September 14th. Uh and one of them uh quit after day three. I'm proud to say that the other four uh after on during the weekend we had contact with them and they're all excited and uh there's no intent to uh quit. Uh so we'll see how

that goes. if they all graduate uh and with the addition of Bradley here uh we'll be at our full 25 aotment for the Georgetown Police Department which is something we haven't been able to do in all the years I've been here is get fully staffed. So uh very excited about that. So as you see in the recruitment we've hired the five candidates there we received 264 applications during that period uh from the previous academy to to date uh we narrowed it down to the five one that quit uh we hired Bradley and then the next do police academy if we have any other uh people that quit or we need to fill any additional positions will start January 2026 so we have some time uh all-star talent has been a very strategic IC partner uh with join Delaware. So to date uh when we went active with them, we've had 560 applications to the town of Georgetown Police Department. And of course as they they apply, but they have to uh certify their personal history questionnaires. And so that number is significantly smaller. But the bottom line is we're getting exposure to a lot more people and that is having positive impacts on our hiring. We also do Facebook, Instagram, and Indeed. Uh I will say and I want to thank the council for this as well that uh the council getting into an agreement with the FOP uh on our new starting salary was uh very very wellreceived to get us competitive and uh I think a lot of the people that I offered jobs to to include uh Bradley had had a lot to do with that number. So thank you very much for that and that was very instrumental in in getting some additional um interest.

So these numbers are quite a bit bigger than previous uh um presentations because it's four months instead of the normal two months. But uh basically as you see the incidents uh we're we're 50 less than we were the same period in 2024. uh two robberies in both in both years, one arrest in 24, none uh and 25. Um and one of those is uh the the robbery was unfounded. We couldn't prove that it happened or it didn't happen. Uh and the other one was uh it was a stranger. Uh we couldn't identify him. 127 assaults. I just want to say again, uh that's not people getting beat up in the streets. Uh an assault can be a threat. It can be a pushing and shoving match, those kind of things. So, they're not it's not as serious as all that, but we've been making a good number of arrests in those 27 burglaries during this period n with 19 arrest and we've uh removed 100 fugitives from the street. Uh crashes, uh we're going up in crashes. Um 231 crashes. We issued 101 tickets, uh which is about 44%. So, we've moved up uh enforcement uh some percentage points. Had 45 personal injury accidents, 186 property damage are non-reportable. Zero fatalities in this reporting period, and 51 hidden runs. That's 51 out of the 231, not in addition to. And a hit and run is uh could be a somebody hit a parked car in the in the night and left, or it could be someone had a crash out on the street during rush hour and they and they ran from the scene. So, calls for service uh you'll see that in uh 2024 we were 100 more calls for service during this reporting period.

However, uh year to date uh as of as of September 14th, we're actually 800 calls for service uh more than we were the previous year. So, uh, we're busy and, uh, and it's going to it's going to really take a load off our officers to have fully staffed and can spread that out over the whole uh, the whole crew instead of uh, just small shifts. I want to talk about our our Georgetown Police Accountability Committee. It's uh something that was required by uh House Bill 206 and the purpose of the the pack is to provide advice uh to departments on policy, training and issues relating to and affecting the department and the communities served by the department. Um so I want to thank the members. Uh Jerry Hammond is the chair, Jane Hington is the vice chair, Kevin Andrade, Jessica Clark, Thurman Hopkins from Purdue, Jose Barrera, and Sunonny Gani are serving on the committee. Um in addition to meeting on a quarterly basis, they are required within the first year to to receive 20 hours of training um to get a better understanding of what we do so they can uh provide uh better input. And that training could be anything from actual training classes, courses, uh it can be ride alongs with us, um virtual training, uh I plan to take them over to Seafford who has a virtual training uh apparatus and let them do some real world decision- making in real time uh without having to risk them their safety. So, uh, it should be fun for them and they're they're all excited about we had our first meeting and, uh, it was it was mostly informative. Uh, so

there really wasn't a whole bunch of directing policy and and training, but um, those will go out. I will I will put those both on our web page and, uh, we'll get them on the town's web pages as well, uh, when we have our next meetings. And like I said, it'll be quarterly. Uh this was just if I had any questions about the victim services vehicle. Um so that was already passed so we don't need to do that and I'll entertain any questions. Council, any questions? I got one. What's the difference between a robbery and a burglary?

So a robbery is when a person confronts another person and steals something that belongs to them. A burglary is when they go into the house, a house, and steal something. And that doesn't mean that anybody has to be in the house uh when they do that. Okay. Never knew. Tony, Christina, anything? No. Congratulations, Brady. Really? I want to thank you for coming aboard with us. Uh uh be safe out there. It this is a great community. I think you'll fall in love once you get started. And uh we appreciate you uh dedicating your service to the town of Georgetown.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Chief, one question on the uh assaults. are are they unknown people that have assaulted them? Is that's why there there's so many that's unsolved? So So there's a number of different classifications that uh contribute to that. So if we have somebody that was assaulted

uh and they don't know who the person was uh and we can't find video and there's no nothing really followed up uh that would be something that wouldn't end an arrest. Uh the other uh the other thing is if they don't cooperate. So we get the victim doesn't cooperate. Correct. We get it gets reported to us through a third person. We make contact with the alleged victim and they refuse to cooperate in the investigation or they refuse to press charges on the other person.

Uh so and again those assaults, it's not all fights where somebody gets injured and goes to the hospital. That can just be a pushing and shoving. That can be uh assaults fall under the threats, terroristic threatening, that kind of stuff. So, uh, so all those things contribute to I just thought with that many it it the the defendant or suspect is mostly known in assault cases and I I was just wondering why there was so many, but you're right. Victims don't want to uh help and assist, so you can't do much with it then. So, thank you. Thank you, council. Everybody okay with that? Well, thank you. Have a good evening.

Moving on uh to public comment. Now is the time to hear from our public. Uh we welcome your comments which are very important to us. Note that all comments are limited to three minutes. As a reminder, please go to the podium to comment. Please give us your name, address, and address your remarks to the chair. Note that you will not be entering into dialogue at this time. The purpose of this agenda item is for you, the public, to inform us, the council, about your views. Mic is open at this time. Hello, I'm Lisha Krippens, 20006 Dun's room, Georgetown, Delaware. We can closer to the mic.

Okay, sure. Sorry. Yes. Um, I just wanted to see if there's because of a commercial um the Oxford House, is it any kind of way they could participate if um and tell about who they are and what they do? The reason my concern is because I met so many people that understand about rules but when because they're there for treatment or try to get back on their feet. the time span is very short where they can lose their housing and that puts more homeless or back to addictions and it would be really nice to see how it's being ran the information but because it's a business inside inside of the town. It makes a difference to that business being here with a populated of a lot of people that's not from the area. So, there something y'all could consider and think about so that we can try to help those that's trying to help themselves.

Yeah. Thank you. Just I'm not supposed to comment, but I am. We've formed in a committee to look into these groups to see what we can do because it'd be nice to know if somebody gets kicked out of one of the houses. We were uh notified who they are so we can either get them back to where they've come from or keep them off the streets. So, we are looking at doing some things to correct that problem. Okay. Okay. Thank you, hun. Yes. Anybody else? Mo.

Good evening. My name is Gary Morris. I live in Lincoln, 1698 Statenville Road. Uh, however, I am the commander of the American Legion Post here in Georgetown. So, I'd like to first off thank you for the great bond donations coming to us our way. American Legion Post has been here for 99 years. We've served the country and the nation. We've been up and down been times when we've been spit on, times we've been slapped on the back. All been good from time to time, but we learned. We work our way. I'm a little disappointed. I'm hoping you guys can tell us. Uh the World War I monument that we raised about $10,000 for put on that circle, it's gone. Uh we haven't heard lately, as far as I know, what the status of any kind of replacement is going to be or where it may go. I'm a little disappointed that it couldn't have been grandfathered into the situation with the circle with the uh police officers, but be that as it may, it's over with now. Uh you guys had to fight that battle twice. So, we'd like to at least get some kind of idea of how that uh World War I monument is going to be replaced and get that back to us. We'd appreciate it.

Thank you, sir. We're working on it. Anybody else at this time? Shelley Wise, Old Park Avenue. I'm happy about the uh circle. No more sleeping in the circle. Is that going to that's going to come through? Okay. Um glad about that. Um I'm not trying to come up here and talk bad about serving like I want to know what we can do about the shepherd's office. How we can stop that, please? What can we do to get together to do that? because riding around now um and seeing that what's going on. I mean, I know you started the pallet village was soda to help to help people, but to me all of a sudden now we have we have more homeless. I don't know how many are out. I would love to know the exact number that are out there. Um, but it's unbelievable out at the vet veterans administration. They're sleeping out there, library, you know, you name it. There's there's somebody there now. Trash riding through town now. It's like, uh, let me just stop and urinate wherever I want. We saw that actually down the street from your house the other night. Um, but I think we need to get together, figure out, we know bad stuff's going on up there. It might have been started for the right reason, but it's not turned that way. Now we're suffering in the town for it. That's how I That's how I feel. I'm not coming up to try to cause trouble. And yes, I don't want people hungry. I've said that before. But people got to learn, you know, to stand up if they're just going to stand there and keep taking. And they can. I mean, waw wa. They're told now they're stealing in there all the time. And they told my brother saw him the other night taking stuff. They're going to the bathroom, need it, and he comes out and they go, "We're told not to do anything. So, why not come here? I'm going to get food. I'm going to get a bike. I'm get a scooter, electric bike, sleeping bag, tents. Anything you want, you're going to get it." So, we've got to I mean, I want to dialogue. Somebody sit me down and help me because I'm getting text messages and phone calls. I go in stores

and I get people coming up to me. I'm not exaggerating. It's the truth. And I I you know, something's got to be done. So, can we do something about that? I mean, this is ridiculous. That's what we're hoping that committee does with your husband on that committee. Well, I hope somebody does. And I don't know. So, you can stay on him to make sure he Well, I don't even know why I You know what? I know that sounds good, too, but as long if we keep building houses for everybody, how many more are going to keep coming in, though? I mean, that's that's my opinion on it. That doesn't mean anything. I'm going to go out of line again. I met with a lady today that's in charge of the homeless in Milford,

okay? and they've cleaned their streets simply because they have got the community involved in it to where the community is taking pictures of these people and sending it on so we can document it and form a timeline as to where these people are what time and it gives us what we need to say that they're a criminal nuisance and video the ones you sent me I've got I will send I've got I don't even like social media and I'm doing social media this is what we got to do the communities got we got to have the community's help to get this done. Absolutely. So, it's time. But I think people live in fear. I say, "Why don't you go out? I'm scared to go out." So, we're we're out at 11:00 at night. Yeah. Yeah.

And I know I'm so thankful you're getting more police officers. I I know. And I know their hands are tied. Probably over three minutes, but um I'm I'm tired. All I want is this town to be good. And it's We'll get there, Shel. We'll get there. If I live to see it, I'm still here. You're still young. I'm not 60 years old. Anybody else at this time? If not, I'd entertain a motion to adjourn. Oh, I should cost him. He snuck up there, didn't he?

Uh, Mark Rogers, five Boenberry. First of all, I want to thank the council as well for getting the contract for the Georgetown police officers. As an officer who worked there for almost 21 years, I would say the last six or seven years of my career, the biggest gripe was manpower. Just manpower, overwork. So, Chief, congratulations. That is a great number. Um, and you got a bunch of good officers there. I also want to thank the mayor and the town manager and the council for allowing me to serve on the circle committee. Uh, we had a six or seven of us that came together with a bunch of different uh ideals and u within just a few weeks we all came together on one plan. So, it was it was a great committee to have different thoughts and come together as one. So, thank you for letting me serve on that.

Thank you, Mark. And for those that know Dennis, uh, the guy that was on the committee with you, he had heart surgery or not heart surgery, he had lung surgery today. He had a spot on a lung and, uh, they went in with the the the the arms and removed the spot from his lung. And the doctor seems to think that it's, uh, he's going to be okay. It's not cancer and he's going to be okay. They've done it at 6:00 this morning and he got back home at 11:00 today. So, God is good. God is good. Is that it with everybody? Everybody had their three minutes. Okay. And entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. Thank you. Penial second. Second, Eric. Thank you. All in favor signify by saying I. I.

Opposed. If you oppose, you can stay here the rest of the night. Good evening. Hey, bump. I got Okay. What's that? Went well with me. Yeah.