Calcasieu Parish Planning and Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

I would like to welcome the audience to the September 15, 2026 Parish Planning and Zoning Board Meeting. Would you all please stand while Coach Williams says the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance.

Dear God, again we come thanking thee for another blessed day, blessed opportunity. Thank you for life, health, and strength. Forgive us our sins and our shortcomings and make us fit to serve. We thank you for your suffering, dying, shedding blood for the mission of our sins. In your words, you said, let us not be anxious for anything, but hang out. I request of you, and I request tonight, that you bless this board, bless this staff, bless those who come seeking our help. Let the Holy Spirit guide and lead us, that we might do that which is pleasing thy sight. Yes, we ask this in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Amen.

Ms. Stephanie, would you please call the roll?

Ms. Latricia Cobb? Here. Ms. Julia Dickerson? Here. Mr. Keith DeBrock?

Here.

Ms. Janelle Hyatt? Here. Mr. Art Little?

Here.

Mr. Jake Porsche?

Here.

Mr. Kirk Smith is absent. Mr. Carl Vincent?

Here.

Mr. LaSalle Williams? Here. Vice Chair Deanna Winey? Here. Chair Sharon Galicia? Here. You have a quorum.

This is an 11-member board. It will take a majority of those members present to grant or deny any request heard tonight. The chair will refrain from voting unless the vote might affect the outcome. The meeting will be conducted with me reading the request from the agenda. The planning staff will give a presentation and report their recommendations. If the applicant would like to add to the staff's presentation or if someone from the audience has comments, please come to the microphone and state your name and address and the nature of your request. All persons wishing to speak other than the applicants need to fill out a blue Request to Appear form located in the back of this room. The form must be given to a staff member prior to the reading of the agenda item. As required by this board's bylaws, in all cases, the proponents will be limited to 10 minutes. Opponents will be granted 10 minutes as well, with each speaker allowed no more than three minutes. I recommend that a spokesperson be selected if there is a large group wanting to speak on the same agenda item. If four more speaker request forms are submitted, the time allowed for individual speakers will be limited based upon the number of forms submitted. The chair has the right to limit speakers who present redundant information or personal attacks. In unique situations, the chair may extend or the board may vote to extend the time allotted for speakers. After discussion, the board will vote on each request. I will announce the decision of the board after the vote. The exception cases are final tonight. The rezoning cases will go before the police jury for final action on Thursday, September 17, 2026. This meeting is being filmed by the Calgary Parish Government Channel and can be viewed on Wednesday and Thursday following the meeting. For additional run dates, check the website at www.calgary.gov, Channel 5 in Lake Charles, Sulphur, Mosswulf, Westlake, Benton, De Quincey, and Gillis, Channel 99 in Carlos, and Grand Lake. Please leave the turnoff or silence all electronic devices. Take appropriate action to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of August 18, 2026, Planning and Zoning Meeting.

I will entertain a motion for approval. So moved.

Second. Mr. Little and Ms. Hyatt. All right. Board members, you have any questions or comments? We have no opposition. All in favor, state aye. Aye. Any opposed, state nay. Motion passes. 6A, take appropriate action on the following application, 2623 Timber Lane in Ward 3, to allow a bed and breakfast home. Applicant Wayne Thompson, Jr., EX 07260017. I will entertain a motion for approval with conditions.

So moved.

Second. Who did it?

I'm sorry.

Ms. Dickerson and Ms. Hyatt. All right. Ms. Tan? This property is in Lake Charles on Timber Lane. The applicant is requesting a zoning exception to allow an existing single-family residential home to continue operating as a bed and breakfast. Because minimal impacts are to be expected, the staff recommends the request be granted with the following conditions. that the development adhere to the site plan on file, the Division of Planning and Development, provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plan in light of technical or engineering considerations discovered during development, that an occupational license must be obtained through the Office of Division of Planning and Development, that no commercial events such as concerts, weddings, block parties, or other large events are permitted, that the occupancy is limited in the maximum of two persons per bedroom plus two additional persons, that all parking must be facilitated on site, that an on-premise sign cannot exceed two square feet, and that the use of the dwelling for the living purposes and does not change the character thereof and have exterior evidence of a bed and breakfast.

Thank you, Ms. Tan. If the applicant is present and would like to speak, please come to the podium at this time and please state your name and address for the record.

Hi, I'm here on behalf of Mr. Thompson. He's my dad, and I kind of manage while he's out of town. He's currently out of the country, so I'm kind of coming in on his behalf. Okay. But kind of gave me some things. Name and address. Madison Thompson, and it's 846 Andrew Mohawk Road. Thank you. So the main thing that he was getting at for this is we're kind of in a different situation than some areas. We're not really under a housing shortage or anything like that. Like he mentioned specifically like Hawaii, you can't really find any homes. Around here it's not really an issue. and the selling market's just not great so it's a really good opportunity for people who do have secondary homes or something like this to kind of offset costs because we did i lived here with him for a little while and he's lived he lived here for many years and then in addition for our larger groups like people who have big families are coming in to visit the casino something like that and they have more than just two to three people Average hotels are around $400 a night, especially the nicer ones closer to the area like this place is. This is a good opportunity for that. We have a lot of sporting families come in and a lot of times a hotel is just not ideal for that situation. So like travel ball, things like that. And then he also just kind of wanted to mention our neighbors have a really good relationship with us with this. We don't have complaints. We are very strict. Parties, anything noisy is prohibited. We follow all the rules that are customary for the area that it's in. And we have especially like our next door neighbor, Ms. Trish Thibodeau, we've talked to her and she said she's had really great conversations and got to know some friends there. but those are our main points to it so far we've not really had any issue and it's off airbnb now unfortunately with this we've been kind of waiting and hoping but um but yeah just it's opportunity to support some tourism here because i always want people to come visit us okay thank you any board members any questions oh yes so the house has previously been on airbnb you've been renting it that way Yes, that was where I think Airbnb and possibly also Vrbo, we had it there until we found out about this situation.

For the staff under the current zoning, that is allowed?

Under the current zoning, no. They're here for the exception to allow.

Okay. So not just for bed and breakfast, but even renting it on Airbnb?

Well, Airbnb and Vrbo are companies that you rent through.

Right.

Bed and breakfast is the terminology in the ordinance under the definition. Okay.

Okay, thank you. We do have one blue card. Mary Reinecke, is that how to say it correctly? All right, come on up and then state your name and address when you get to the microphone, please.

Not a problem. Mary Renette, 2701 Timber Lane, Lake Charles. I live next door to this residence. It has been rented out for the last five years. There are times when there are up to 10 cars in the driveway, boats in the roadside. There are not just one or two people per bedroom. There are more people than that at this facility. And like I said, they've rented this house out for five years without a permit. My concern is safety. I live by myself. Trish lives by herself. There's another lady across the street that lives by herself. We have no idea who's coming and going out of that house. And they not only rent the house, there's another smaller, I guess, workshop area, whatever. It was... parlayed out also to be rented. So there's actually two properties on that property that are being rented. So mine is a safety concern. I don't know of anybody sitting in here who would like to change neighbors every day. I've lived in this neighborhood since 1990. And there's very low turnover. So that is my main concern. Thank you. Board members, any questions?

OK. Ms. Thompson, would you come back up for a minute? Thank you, Ms. Thank you. That's it? Yes, ma'am. Some of our board members have a question for you. Sure.

I want to address with Ms. Thompson? No, Ms. Rennick. I hope I pronounced that correctly.

Do y'all not hear me? I don't.

You can hear me? So can you explain to us what the opposition said about the two properties, the two of this other space? I guess that's located, I'm taking, to the rear of the property or something. Can you explain that?

It was originally actually we had kind of designed it for us to stay in at one point whenever I was a teenager. But it's just basically a building that we've put in a few things for. It's just kind of it's on the property and in addition to it, but it's not exactly it's not rented separately or anything like that. It's just part of the property. It's like a larger shop kind of that's been fitted with a bathroom and things like that for we use it kind of as a mother-in-law suite, I guess is the best way to describe it. But it's just It's in addition to the property because it's there, but it's not like two people can rent out of two different spots, I guess, if that makes any sense.

So it has a bed and a bathroom, and what else does it have in there? Does it have a kitchen facility or...?

Kind of. It's like we keep a fridge in there and it's got like a countertop. But once my husband and I weren't there whenever, like I said, teenager age, it was mostly just kind of we just kind of left it there afterwards.

So what's in there now? So there's a bed in there? Yes. Okay. And is it some type of kitchen, kitchenette, just the refrigerator?

The refrigerator and like a counter and a sink.

A stove? No. Okay. How far apart are you from your neighbor, the neighbor that spoke?

She's behind that part, so, I mean, there's privacy fence and then over, I would say, like, you'd have to look at the property side. She's on, I think, the side with the trees right there, and that picture would describe it. And then you can see the shop shed in the back. There's a shed on one side and then the kind of, um smaller garage because it's got like a big garage door kind of set up to it so it's like a addition to it so typically how many people do you have because you said that you were helping your father rent it out so typically how many people do you have at one time usually it's like a one household family so mom dad two kids most of the time it's families i would say about that we really don't allow big giant groups it's more of Like a couple or a couple with their children. And how long have you been renting it? I can't tell you when he originally started. Five years might be accurate. That was before I was handling it. Whenever he was in town more often. I mean, we moved out of it in 2021, I believe. Short time after the hurricane where I no longer lived there. And then I started managing it more recently since he's been out.

Okay.

OK, thank you. Thanks.

Any other question for the staff? Just looking here in the recent zoning request in the immediate area, I don't see if any other request or anything that we've approved in this area that would change the character of the single family are one. And I guess I asked the question Airbnb, I was just wanting to know how long she's been operating outside of compliance of zoning. So five years, is that what? We had a applicant. Yeah, you have to ask that. Applicant, please come back.

Oh, can you come back up, Ms. Thompson? Sorry.

I think she did say that. I asked that, and she said that she- Five years. Roughly five years.

Y'all been operating as a bed and breakfast or-

I'm not entirely sure when he started. Like I said, it would have been sometimes. I mean, we lived there during the hurricane and within about a year after that. So I'm unsure exactly when that started. I know there's a lot of people that did it and didn't know that it was. We were not aware that it was an issue, I guess is the best way to put it. I have a lot of friends, family in the Calcasieu Lake Charles area that do this and just were not aware that it was allowed.

Yeah, I know it's.

Because it's kind of a, you know, we're like, oh, well, it's not a bed and breakfast. We thought it was a different category, if that makes sense.

Okay. That's all for you.

Ms. Whining, I think I have another question.

I was going to say, just for more clarification, how long have you been operating it for your father? About six months, just kind of starting.

Okay.

So only, but we stopped as soon as this started, so really not working any guests at this point. Okay. Thank you.

I just, general comments, I understand the neighbor's concern. This is an exception that really could or will change the character of the R1 zoning. And I think it's important because this would be the first one in this area that would set the precedent for a transient habitation. I try to look at it. I'm sure the applicant has best of intentions, a little bit of experience with it. They can click that there's four people coming, and when it turns into a party. So I just feel like it would change, again, the character of the area. And then I have a hard time of telling one person yes, and then the next person no. So the next applicant that would come, the neighbor, I would want to tell them yes if we told them yes, the first person. So I just have concerns. Thank you.

Any other questions or comments from the board?

All right. Ms. Stephanie, roll call vote, please. Ms. Cobb? No. Ms. Dickerson? No. Mr. DeBrock?

No.

Ms. Hyatt? No. Mr. Little?

No.

Mr. Porsche?

No.

Mr. Vincent? No. Mr. Williams? No. Ms. Whiney? No. Nine against. Motion fails. All right.

6B, take appropriate action on the following application, 2148 Rebel Loop in Ward 1 to allow a borrow pit. Applicant Warren Vandiver, edX, EX08260019. I will entertain a motion for approval with condition.

Second.

All right, Ms. Cobb and Mr. Dubrock.

Ms. Todd? This property is in Moss Bluff on Rebel Loop. The applicant is requesting a zoning exception to allow a borrow pit 1.1 acres. Approximately 75% of the dirt will be excavated offsite, while the remaining material will remain on the property for future house pad and site grading. Because minimal impacts are to be expected, the staff recommends the request be granted with the following conditions. that the development adhere to the site plan on file with the Division of Planning and Development, provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plan, considering technical or engineering considerations discovered during development, that the development shall be in accordance with Section 26.122.1.H.4 of the Parish Code of Ordinances, and that any deviation exceeding the submitted application will require another review by the Division of Engineering.

Thank you, Ms. Tahn. If the applicant is present and would like to speak, please come to the podium at this time and please state your name and address for the record.

Warren Vandiver, 1931 North Gabriel Square, Lake Charles, Louisiana, 70611. All right. Appreciate the opportunity to explain. I think a lot of this whole objections to this pit were just miscommunications between me and the other homeowners in the subdivision. And it allowed me an opportunity to get educated a little more on how this process works. Because if I were to bring dirt into my property, wouldn't have been a borrow pit permit, wouldn't have been any issues, same amount of traffic on the road. However, in order to excavate dirt off the property, it's a big ordeal. I had to spend four months with the energy company for the High Line to even get the plan approved by them because you have to adhere to right-of-way access and things like that. Me and Energy sat down and drew up the plans and elevation certificates and things to dig the pit so I could have a pond. I didn't know anything about digging a pond before this research, so I started researching how deep do I have to dig it to keep it clear so alligator grass and what not doesn't grow. And you hit water, sand, so that it keeps the pond clear. So I did that, filed for the permit for that exact. Four months go by with to get the letter of no objection from energy and their biggest concerns where I was not allowed to raise the elevation of the High Line area because of the concerns with the High Line height difference from the ground to the the safety concern between the ground and the electrical lines easy day so I can use maybe 300 loads of dirt on the rest of my property to do my house pad, but there's still going to be an excess of roughly 600 loads of dirt that have to be brought off the site. Initially, the phase three of the subdivision is still under development. I was hoping to get it moved over to there with the owner of that property. But before we got the letter of no objection bag, he said there's really not enough dirt on there to make it worth, you know, his time as a commercial business to set up and move the dirt off. There's not enough dirt coming off there. So I was back to square one. I found another individual in the subdivision who wants the dirt for their property. So it's literally just going to dig my pond, my pad, and then their property with the dirt. Never thought it would cause any kind of, you know, uproar that happened with the HOA and everything. But I'm kind of glad that it did. It let me do some research and find out exactly what goes into it. And I'm grateful that there's people in the subdivision who care about what's going on in their subdivision where I plan to live. Really, there's not too much more about that. I did everything by the book. I didn't know what I had to do, so I came up to the parish, got the list of what I had to take care of, the letter of no objection was first, and then all the permitting process and everything. And that took four to five months. And then I said, well, I want to file the permit once school's back in so that if the traffic is during the day moving it around, the kids are not there, they're at school, and it's going to cause as least amount of disturbance in the neighborhood as possible. So that's what we did. And I don't know very many people in the subdivision, maybe two or three, so I didn't go door-to-door knocking and saying, hey, this is the plan. But I did know that they were putting a sign in the front yard to notify everybody in the subdivision and that they could contact me there afterwards. I'm sure there's some people here that are going to object to it. I would love to have this conversation over a cup of coffee rather than here in the – the parish appeal um but i think a lot of it was um miscommunication on me either explaining better what the uh what we're building or misunderstanding um but yeah that's where we're at i'm really don't have much more to say on that but that's that's essentially what we're doing to clarify it's going from your house to a neighbor's house and that's it all 600 loads if that um i we went and walked the site and roughly to improve where the house pad is going to go it should take about 300 loads don't know exactly how many loads are going to come out but it's going to be less than a thousand so i assumed you know six to seven hundred loads off site because i can't raise the elevation of the the high line any and i don't want mounds of dirt all around my house pad that are doing nothing um so that's essentially what was applied for board members any questions for applicant yet Not yet.

Thank you, Mr. Vandiver. All right, we have several blue cards. Are you going to time these?

Three minutes each.

You got it? Okay, we have five total. Okay, Donnie Northcutt, if you would like to speak. Just please state your name and address for the record when you come up. Okay, three minutes.

Donnie Northcutt, we haven't built in the subdivision yet, but we do have a lot on 2067 Rebel Loop. I think the main concern was the part where the dirt would be brought to a neighbor's was not made clear, but the concern is the open-endedness of the permit. This is a one-acre permit. What would stop it from being appealed at the end of the one-acre pit to be a three-acre pit? What would stop it from being a one-year permit to maybe to be extended? So the long-term impacts of if it is approved, then what are the long-term impacts? What could we expect as neighbors as to what it could turn into?

Okay. Thank you.

All right.

All right, Ms. Karen Northcutt. And again, if you wouldn't mind, state your name and address. Let me get to the microphone.

I'm Karen Northcutt, and we are building at 2067 Rebel Loop. We're just getting started on it. My main thing was, okay, he said a pond, putting a pond on there. But I looked up before I came, and Webster defines a borrow pit in comparison to a pond. An excavated area where material has been dug for use as fuel at another location. And I'm fine with someone digging a pond to put their house pad, to do their house pad on their property. My concern is the roads, the dump trucks in and out, if it's going to be going, if it's going to be sold and brought somewhere else. I wasn't aware before tonight that it's just going to another, that location and another lot in the subdivision. mapping is with this definition of a borough p and that it has to be that you have to have special approval for it uh... is do we know for sure that's the case and if it ends up getting sold and going to the net neighboring subdivision or things like that happen Is that okay? I mean, he can say that it's just going to those two places, but if it's, oh, well, we have extra dirt, so I'm going to start selling it to go over here, and we've got trucks going back and forth. How do we know that's going to be the case? Do y'all oversee that or what?

That's a question for the staff.

But no, we don't.

We are not going to be out there every day overseeing this, I can promise you.

I kind of figured that. I kind of figured that was your answer. But anyway, so that's just one of my concerns, is that truly what it's going to be. I just don't want it to become...

It's a borrow pit because under the parish definition, not Webster, it's removing the dirt off the site. And so... To another location. It could be anywhere. To an old site.

Right, right. Yeah. Any location. Exactly. So therefore...

Unless there is a condition placed on... The moving of the dirt on a certain parish road or something like that, we're not going to limit where that dirt goes.

Right. And how many trucks it takes to on the road.

They make an application.

Okay.

And on the application, they have to put, you know, the number of trips per day and the number of loads that are going to, you know, they have to put all that.

Okay.

In the application.

And who oversees that?

I'm sorry?

And who oversees that?

Well, the application is submitted and we permit it based on the application that's submitted. And now if they go beyond that and we get a complaint, we have to investigate. We have to investigate that to figure out whether or not they're not complying with that. And then we would enforce it.

Right.

Okay.

Okay. Got you. Yeah.

So that's how it works.

Right. All right. Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Dan Thomas, if you'd like to come to the podium.

Dan Thomas, 2143 Rebel Loop, directly across from this lot. My concern is the same as Herb Ellis' voice. I need to know if there's an opening date and a closing date. this could go on for years you're going to dig a one acre pond 30 feet deep do you have calculations on how much dirt that is somebody does i'm not an engineer but i know somebody does and i like to know if this is a never-ending story there's a dirt pit on north perkins road probably two miles from this location been open for years How long is this one going to be open? So you're saying you're going to count the dirt loads? I don't believe that. I don't believe anybody in here is going to set out there and count the number of trucks that run back and forth on our subdivision roads. I don't believe you're going to count those. So I'd like to know. Do you do, I know somebody, there's a mathematical formula where somebody can investigate and tell me approximately how many truckloads of dirt is going to come out of a one acre pond 30 feet deep. Do you have that number?

Mr. Crane.

I'm sure the dirt contractor and our engineering department would calculate that too.

i know you can if somebody can somebody in our neighborhood did it and they said not 300 or 600 truckloads they said more like 3 000 truckloads that would tear those roads up again i don't know those numbers but i'd like and i have zero problems with him digging and digging at and putting on his lot i have zero problems with him putting some in our neighborhood what i don't like is the fact that you're not going to tell me when there's start and stop date, and you're not going to tell me how many truckloads are going to come out of there. And if it comes out right in front of my house, I have a big problem with that. So, and there's rules in the subdivision. There's an HOH that says you cannot use any lot in the high side of our subdivision to run a business out of. Are you telling me that our rules don't mean anything? Are you saying the HOH has no authority in this?

The HOA is completely separate than the Planning and Zoning Board. So we make decisions based on land use, but your HOA, if they have a problem with it, they deal with that completely separately. We can't enforce your HOA rules.

One of our members called up here and spoke to one of your board members, and they basically told them that our HOH had no, basically had no say in this.

That's incorrect.

So if that's the truth or not truth...

I'm going to let you take that, Mr. Craig.

Does that mean I can start a pig farm in the next lot beside him? Is that what you're telling me? My rules don't mean anything, so I can buy the lot next to him and start a farm?

No, you're responsible for enforcing its own rules. The parish does not enforce you.

Okay. Are you saying that our HOH needs to come after him? And, again, I have no problem with him doing what he's going to do to build his house. Zero worries about that. My concern is the never-ending story here. I'd like to know a start date and a stop date.

That's all on the application, though. When he starts and when he has to stop, that's all in there.

And it's part of the ordinance.

It's part of the ordinance, yes.

That's your time, Mr. Thompson.

I still say there's a dirt pit less than two miles away. It's been running five, six years that I know of, probably not longer. I have no desire to have my house right across the street from a dirt pit.

Thank you.

Mr. Porsche, do you have something you want to address now before our next one comes up?

Yeah. Let me hear the last blue card.

OK. Sean Connor, if you would like to come to the podium.

Good afternoon. My name is Sean Connor, 2114 Rebel Loop. I am to the, well, I don't know, the right of ways east and west. But if you look, on the or if you look on the left hand side that's that's my residence i have two lots there outside of the restrictions i understand you guys you don't want to hear about the restrictions but the one concern that i have is that lot 35 is also part of the army corps engineer permitting process i have two lots that are just to the left of what the highlighted lot is and it's actually got has a It's a lower elevation, so has the parish looked at anything as far as berms or anything like that to prevent stormwater from intruding to down lower elevations or anything like that?

Mr. Crane?

I don't know if that's been looked at at this point, but they do have to submit a drainage plan that our engineering department will review.

Okay. I mean, you're going to hear other concerns, but my main concern is I don't have water back there except for when it rains, and Indian Bayou is just south of that. Just making sure that if I'd had a pond back there, I wouldn't have bought it, right? So as long as there's no impact, that's my main concern. There's no impact for whatever is going on that we actually put protections up and stormwater drainage.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Conner.

Have one more?

Okay. Delton Ritchie, if you would like to come to the podium. State your name and address for the record. And as a side note, is today your birthday? Because that's the date you put on here, was the year you were born. So I'm assuming today's your birthday.

Yeah. Well, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Delton Ritchie, 2795 Coffee Farms Road in Moss Bluff, same neighborhood. I'm really here just to voice some information to educate our neighbors in the neighborhood. First of all, I have almost a two-acre pond behind my house that's 14 feet deep, and I got a hole in it that's 32 feet deep. I couldn't even move one cubic yard of dirt off of that property where I built my house. I took every load of dirt that came out of the Catholic Youth Center on Bozo Road and put on that property. I am a dirt contractor. Some of you know me in here. But anyway, the dirt that he's gonna dig out of a 1.1 acre pond, I did it based on one acre, one square acre is 208.71 by 208.71. In the state of Louisiana, you have to have a nine foot slope in there for a rescue if an animal comes out of there. That's not a parish ordinance or anything like that. That's ruled by the state for rescue, okay? So this guy is not, I don't know where they came up with their numbers, but you're going to only get 43 560 cubic yards of dirt out of this pond okay we're talking a 1.1 acre pond so he's not going to have enough dirt to keep a pit open for years running okay i don't i can go on here and stand here for 30 minutes and talk about all this stuff if you divide that 17,738 cubic yards. He's only, by 27, you're going to have 656 loads of dirt out of there is what he's going to take out of this pond. Where they got their numbers from, I have no clue. And there's people in here that know the formula for this, and you can calculate how much dirt comes out of this ground. It's loose field. It increases 15% to 30% when it's loose field dirt to go in the back of a dump truck. So, okay. Anyway, if there's any concern about trucks, traffic, thing like that, every house in that place had dump trucks coming in and out of that from the front of that neighborhood all the way to the back. So if they're concerned about trucks, when they finished with the dirt, they brought concrete trucks, pump trucks, lumber trucks. You name it, it all the way down to the end of the closing where they brought furniture trucks in there, port-a-potty trucks in and out of there, vacuuming once a week. So the concern of all this, they're raising opposition for this. I don't understand where they're going with this. As far as the elevation of that, I'm going out there. I did not take my laser there. But he can't go any higher with the dirt. So he can't build a berm any higher than the highest elevation on that property. All he can do is block off one side. And if you take the overflow out of this pond, I have one in mind. It's a 16-inch pipe. That's as much water can be released out of that pond at a time. If there's any water that's through rainwater that comes up and fills that pond up, it's not going to be any additional water that overflows and hits the ground right now other than absorption. You understand where I'm going with this?

Thank you, Mr. Ritchie. Mr. Porsche?

I'm glad I let Mr. Ritchie talk first because, I mean, I'm just going to echo.

Yeah, you answered a lot of questions.

It's being presented like there's this infinite amount of dirt that can just go on for 20 years, and that's not the case. There's a finite amount of dirt that's going to come out of this place. The thing I... Me, as property ownership rights and think he wants this big of a pond, but he doesn't want his house to be 20 feet up in the air, I get that too. So I think a reasonable thing is for us to consider the three years. Is that a reasonable time? I feel like it's a little excessive for this application. So that's my only question is talk to the applicant and say, hey, what's a reasonable time? Because I don't want it dragging out It's a finite amount of dirt, but we can put another thing that says, hey, I think two years in the course of construction of the home, the pad, the whole thing, for all this to be closed out within two years. But I'd like to talk to the applicant and see if that would be reasonable.

Thank you, Mr. Richard. Can I respond to that?

You can, absolutely.

As a dirt contractor, I'm probably going to be the one to do it. You're not going to move three quarters of a million dollars worth of equipment in there and drag this out for two years. You're going to get in and out of there, weather permitting, three to five days, and you're going to be gone. You can't let that equipment sit. It doesn't make me any money when it's sitting there.

Right.

So the time frame on this, weather permitting, a guy's, whoever, a dirt contractor is going to go in and be in and out of there and just as quick as he possibly can. So where they fathom this idea of this is an ongoing for years, it's not going to happen.

And in all fairness to the neighbors, it is because sometimes sitting on here for 15 years, I've extended borrow pits and extended borrow pits and extended borrow pits. And so I understand this application, this size, it's going to be get in, get out. I get that.

And the terminology borrow pit comes from, no one probably relates to it in this room, is the definition of a borrow pit. Everybody's driven down the interstate. When you go over the overpass, you know where that dirt came from? Look to your left and right. There's a dirt water pond on each side. That's a borrow pit. That's where that came from. That's where that name was established from.

Thank you, Mr. Ritchie.

You're welcome.

Mr. Vander, would you come back up, please? Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Porsche.

As far as the time, your estimated time, you already have a buyer for your dirt, correct? Your neighbor, all right? You plan that you're going to do your pad simultaneously pulling out the dirt. You have your contractor lined up. What is a reasonable time frame from start to finish, dump truck, everything done, and you're looking at your pond, your house pad, Your neighbor has his dirt. Mr. Richie's done.

According to Mr. Richie, who we talked to, this is a three to five day process, right? The reason the application says three years is when we filed for it, I didn't have a contractor lined up, didn't know when I was going to do it, and I didn't want to have to reapply for it all once it got started, if it got started after three years. There was no intention of... leaving it open and running a dirt pit for three years. And then the concern with, hey, what if I want to make more than one acre pond? What if I want to make a three acre pond? Well, I don't even have three acres back there. I've got one acre of dirt to dig, right? So that's what the permit called for. And I just put the longest you could have the application open was for three years. And I didn't know when we were going to start, but I didn't have no intention of pulling dirt out of it for three years straight. So do you still not know when you're starting? Is that still an open date? I mean, we're here right now. So I don't know if it's going to get approved or not. So I don't have a start date.

OK. If you're approved this evening, or you plan to start, from now, what is a reasonable time that you would feel comfortable with? Is it two years?

Oh, absolutely. It would be sometime in the coming months. The only thing that's going to hold me up right now is the Florida gas line just called me last week, and they're about to dig up my property to run a new gas line, and I'm not going to do all the dirt work for them to tear it up. I'll wait until they're done.

So two years, but probably one year would maybe be a little tight?

It depends on how long the Florida gas line takes and how long it's going to take.

Okay, so two years.

Yeah, and we can edit that application in two years. It's no problem.

You would be comfortable with an admiss stipulation to change from three years to two years? As a staff, would that be a reasonable request for us to amend the motion? Does the staff have any concerns with doing that?

We give three years because people, you don't know what's going to happen.

I agree.

And so over these years, the reason we have this ordinance like we have it, and keep in mind, this was an administrative review. So anything under five acres of land, we can review that as an administrative. And because we had the opposition, it got pushed to this board. And so typically, we are approving these types of things all the time.

All the time, right.

These are not uncommon.

Agreed.

And so we have a bullet list of conditions in the ordinance already that these folks have to comply with. You know, whatever that might be, time frame, you know, whatever.

Yep.

And so... The three years is put on there because over the years, we've seen that, hey, some people need more time than other people. And we don't want to have to keep coming back before this board to keep asking for an extension if they need more time. But it's up to y'all. You can change that.

It just feels like three years is normally what we have approved for a borrow pick, correct? And it could be 100 acres or 50 acres. Just being this size in this situation with this much opposition, I'm just trying to see what would be reasonable to say, hey, it's a finite amount of dirt. Let's cap it at two years. Or I'm open for discussions. I'm not, I mean, I want to hear from my board members here.

But I mean, if he starts it in 18 months, he's still not going to spend six months doing that. There's no financial feasibility.

Okay, I'd like to make a motion to amend the time frame from three years to a two-year time frame for this project. for this applicant.

Do we have a second? Second. Ms. Whiney seconded the motion. All in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed? Motion passes.

So what was the motion, I'm sorry?

Moved from a three-year time frame to a two-year.

Okay.

And I got a second.

So somebody made a motion to do that. I made the motion. And Ms. Whiney seconded it. Ms. Whiney seconded it. Voted on.

Now you're going to need to make a new motion to approve with amendments.

Okay.

Can I just make a comment, just one comment? Sure. So your two years starts from approval of today. Correct. So I want to make sure you're clear with that. Okay.

Can I? I just have a question just for clarification. So if the gentleman, let's say, just has 600 loads of dirt, and he uses 300 for his house pad, and he has 300 loads, and let's say that other guy only takes 200 loads, I mean, to get that off his land, could he not just get rid of that? That's what you're asking for. I just want to make sure that we're clear, because I don't want to handicap him in any way. That's why I didn't... I would want it off my property. You know, if I'm not able to...

make any stipulations where it limits him to this one neighbor because things change, things happen. I just wanted to try to help the neighbors to know, you know, hey, it's two years, finite amount of dirt, like that's it.

I agree. Thank you.

Can I get a motion to approve with amendments? Yes.

I'll make a motion that we approve it with the changes.

Thank you, Mr. Dubrock. Second? Now second it. Ms. Dickerson second it? OK. Do we need to take a roll call vote? Sure. All right. Ms. Stephanie, would you roll call vote? Ms. Dickerson?

Oh, I'm sorry. Coach has a question. If we put the stipulation on him for two years and something happens, weather conditions and all that, and he needs more time than that, would he have to come back before the voting?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

All right, Ms. Stephanie, roll call vote.

Ms. Dickerson? Yes. Mr. Dubrock? Yes. Ms. Hyatt? Yes. Mr. Little?

Yes.

Mr. Porsche? Yes. Mr. Vincent? Yes. Mr. Williams? Yes. Ms. Whiney? Yes. Ms. Cobb? Yes. All in favor, 9-4.

Motion passes. All right. Thank you. Thank you. all right rezoning 7a take appropriate action on the following application 2000 block of pugil road and ward 8 to rezone from light commercial c1 to light industrial i1 to allow a contractor shop and storage yard applicant k k commercial properties llc rz07260009 i will entertain a motion for approval with conditions Ms. Cobb made the motion. And three people. No, Ms. Hyatt seconded the motion. Ms. Tan.

This property is on Puget Road in the Blue Settlement. The applicant is requesting to rezone the property from light commercial to light industrial to allow a contractor shop and storage yard. The applicant intends to lease the property to construction contractors, equipment service companies, building supply businesses, or other similar uses. Because the proposed zoning is consistent with the character of the area, the staff recommends the request be granted with the following conditions. That the development adhere to the site plan on file. The Division of Planning and Development provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plan in light of technical or engineering considerations discovered during development. that all exterior lighting must be oriented inward toward the development and the light source cannot be visible to the adjacent properties, that permitting is subject to the approval from Louisiana Department of Health and Sanitation, that a runoff management plan will be required unless appropriate waiver is granted by the Division of Engineering, that screening must be provided in accordance with Section 2650 of the Parish Code of Ordinances prior to final electrical approval, that the building must have a facade that is non-metal, i.e., brick, stucco, hardy border vinyl, that permitting is subject to approval of the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development, that all signs must be low-profile monument signs, that all storage must be within a six-foot enclosed privacy fence, and that lounges are prohibited.

Thank you, Ms. Tan. If the applicant is present and would like to speak, please come to the podium at this time and please state your name and address for the record.

matt langley 2121 charlesborough road i bought the commercial property with the intentions to do a rental property and then did it did all the permitting and they told me i needed to have it rezoned to light industrial okay any questions from the board thank you sir thank you

All right. We don't have any blue cards, so all in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. All right. 7B, take appropriate action on the following application, 2540 Miller Avenue in Ward 4, to rezone from single-family residential to light commercial to allow a convenience store and professional offices. Applicant Alan Seale, edX, RZ07260010. I will entertain a motion for approval with conditions.

So moved.

coach williams made it and miss hyatt seconded it miss tom this property is on miller avenue in westlake the applicant is requesting to rezone the property from single family residential to light commercial to allow a convenience store and professional offices the applicant intends to renovate the interior to sell snacks soda and candy etc also the applicant will construct newly designated professional offices within the building Because the commercial use is limited, the staff recommends the request be granted with the following conditions. That the development adhere to the site plan on file, the Division of Planning and Development, provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plan in light of technical or engineering considerations discovered during development. That the uses are limited to a convenience store and professional offices only. That approval from Louisiana State Farm Marshal must be obtained prior to the issuance of a development permit. that a traffic impact analysis may be required unless the appropriate waiver is granted by the Division of Engineering, that all exterior lighting must be oriented inward towards the development and the light source cannot be visible to adjacent properties, And the following conditions must be obtained prior to the issuance of an occupational license, that a development permit must be obtained from the Division of Planning and Development, that screening must be provided in accordance with Section 2650, screening fences as per the Parish Code of Ordinances, that the driveways must adhere to Section 2648, driveway access regulations, and that the parking and loading must adhere to Section 2649, minimum parking and loading requirements.

Thank you, Ms. Tan. If the applicant is present and would like to speak, please come to the podium at this time, and please state your name and address for the record. Applicant's not here? OK. Oh, I didn't see you moving. Sorry about that.

Do I have to speak?

You do not.

Oh, OK. The way you made it seem, I thought. Well, I was surprised. Most of the time, applicant's here. I'm sorry.

I just didn't see it.

No, ma'am. I have no objections. I think we're OK.

Okay. Any questions by the board? I need a motion. All right, Ms. Dickerson. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right, motion passes. 7C, take appropriate action on the following application, 7896 Nelson Road and Ward 3 to rezone from manufactured home park, RMHP to recreational vehicle park, RVP to allow the recreational vehicle park four spaces. Applicant Preston Richard, edX, RZ07260012. I will entertain a motion for approval with conditions. Ms. Cobb, Ms. Hyatt, Ms. Todd.

This property is on Nelson Road in South Lake Charles. The applicant is requesting to rezone the property to a recreational vehicle park to allow four spaces. The property is an extension to the existing KMP RV park, which will provide the four additional RV spaces. Because the proposed zoning is consistent with the character of the area, the staff recommends the request be granted with the following conditions. that the development adhere to the site plan on file of the Division of Planning and Development, provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plan in light of technical or engineering considerations discovered during development, that all exterior lighting must be oriented inward toward the development and the light source cannot be visible to adjacent properties, and that a runoff management plan will be required unless appropriate waiver is granted by the Division of Engineering.

Thank you, Ms. Tan. If the applicant is present and would like to speak, please come to the podium at this time and please state your name and address for the record.

Hello. Good evening. Preston Richard. My residence is now 7636 Nelson Road. The area we were wanting to put the four RV spots on was formerly our residence, which was destroyed during the hurricanes in 20. So we've since had that demolished and hauled away. But we want to put four RV spots in there, and it will be set up as our other one. Everything's on concrete, parking, and the trailer spots. you know had opposition from neighbors who didn't know anything when we first opened that and and now we're all friends because uh... they use it when they need it but uh... what we i'd say we have the neatest parking lake trails it's well groomed everything and uh... people really like it but i would ask for it to be accepted thank you thank you sir any questions board members any questions no i it is very well kept up and it was done very well

Right, we have no blue card, so all in favor. Any opposed? Motion passes. All right. 7D. Take appropriate action on the following application. 5300 block of Highway 27 South and Ward 4. Commit ordinance number 7011, RZ 1017, 0034. Stipulation number 1, which states that the development adhere to the site plan on file with the Division of Planning and Development, provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plans in light of technical or engineering considerations, discovered during development, to allow a revised site plan, to remove stipulation number five, which states that permitting is subject to approval of the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development, and to remove stipulation number six, which states that the hours of operation be from daylight to dusk. Applicants Stephen and Pamela Carnahan Living Trust, RZ 08260013. I will entertain a motion for approval with conditions. Mr. Little, Ms. Hyatt, Ms. Ton.

This property is on Highway 27 South in Corliss. In 2017, this property was rezoned to light industrial. The applicant is requesting to allow a revised site plan and to remove the two stipulations. The applicant intends to sell the property to Corliss Fire Department, which proposes to construct a new facility on this site. The proposed facility will also provide additional space for training and firefighter operations. Because the development is consistent with the character of the area, the staff recommends the request be granted with the condition that the development adhere to the site plan on file with the Division of Planning and Development, provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plans in light of technical or engineering considerations discovered during development.

Thank you, Ms. Ton. If the applicant is present and would like to speak, please come to the podium at this time and please state your name and address for the record.

Justin Babineau, 1235 East Napoleon Street. Super excited to present this to you guys. I think the rezoning isn't simply about developing a piece of property, but about making a way for the fire department that will serve, protect, and support our community for years to come. This is the kind of project that represents real investment into our community Our city and more importantly the safety of our citizens I'm proud to have a very small piece as I represent as a real estate agent for this small development. So We're hoping for an approval on these amendments. So thank you.

Thank you Board members any questions?

uh comments uh speaking with some of the board members at the fire uh the fire district along with the fire chief they have been looking for properties to build a new fire station from the one they've been leasing for the last 30 or 40 years they had three other properties that would fit their needs but the the property owners were not interested in it this property come about and with this being Rezoned, it will open up something like the gentleman said. It's going to open up Corliss and put something out front so the citizens know what's happening in Corliss.

can i make one more comment yes sir so one of the things you know it's going to open up um different access than what they currently have where they're currently located they're kind of back off the beaten path this is going to give them a lot more exposure of course given the the fire department a beautiful place to um you know serve the community so super excited about it thank you mr babner thank you there are no blue cards so all in favor Aye.

Any opposed? Motion passes. All right. 7E, sounds a little familiar. Take appropriate action on the following application, 7874 Nelson Road in Ward 3 to amend ordinance number 7325, RZ05200164, stipulation number 1, which states that the development adhere to the site plan on file with the vision of planning and development provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plans in light of technical engineering considerations discovered during the general development to allow a revised site plan to rezone from general commercial to recreational vehicle park, RRVP to allow a recreational vehicle park for spaces, applicant KMP properties, LLC, RZ08260014. I will entertain a motion for approval with conditions.

Approved.

Mr. Little? Ms. Hyatt seconded it.

Ms. Tan? So this property zoning case goes along with Mr. Reshore's previous case that he just had on Nelson Road. This property was zoned general commercial. He's requesting it to be rezoned to recreational vehicle park to allow four additional spaces. Because the proposed zoning is consistent with the character of the area, the staff recommends the request be granted with the following conditions. That the development adhere to the site plan on file with the Division of Planning and Development, provided that the director or designee may authorize adjustments to the site plan in light of technical or engineering considerations discovered during development, that all exterior lighting must be oriented inward toward the development and the light source cannot be visible to adjacent properties, and that a runoff management plan will be required unless appropriate waiver is granted by the Division of Engineering.

Thank you, Ms. Tan. If the applicant is present and would like to speak, please come to the podium at this time and please state your name and address for the record.

Preston Reshard, 7636 Nelson Road. Yes, and like she said, we had zoned this commercial. We were going to put some storage buildings in there. And after the hurricane, we changed our mind. It would have been cost prohibitive to get up to the elevation we needed to make it feasible. So now we're asking to get it zoned for RVs. Of course, we're an RV park, and we'll do the same as all the other spots. And one last thing I would like to just advise everybody has nothing to do with this. Saturday at the Shriners, there's a men wear pink deal for breast cancer. We're going to have a band there, chicken cook-off. The entertainment's free.

All right.

If you want to eat, it's $20. All right. Thank you, Mr. Richard. Thank you.

Good morning. There you go.

Board members, any questions or comments? All right. We have no blue cards, so all in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. All right. The next item on the agenda is to devise that the police jury took the following action on August 20, 2026, with reference to the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Board from the August 18, 2026 meeting. Scotty Tuchet, Ed Ux, Planning and Zoning, recommended approval, police jury approved. Citgo Patrolling Corporation, Planning and Zoning, recommended approval, police jury approved. The next item on the agenda is to advise that the next regularly scheduled planning and zoning meeting will be held on Tuesday, October 13, 2026. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Second. Second. Did you get that, Ms. Stephanie? Ms. Cobb first and Ms. Dickerson second.