Town Board - Regular Meeting

clock. So we would like to get this meeting underway. And I'd like to first before we start the meeting, let you know that we have exits directly in front of us all the way out to the left door and to the right hand door in case there's an emergency, please silence all cell phones. And so we don't have any distractions on this as well. Okay, I would like to right now welcome to the meeting by starting the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Moment of silence, not only for ones who have come before us, but for people who perished in the 9-11 massacre here in the United States. We'd like a moment of silence for all involved.

Thank you.

Welcome to our regular board meeting, Wednesday, September 9. Glad to have you here, all the people who are also watching at home. First thing I want to talk about, we had an internet issue today that prevented us from being able to do timely things of minutes and so on and so forth that kind of disappeared on us. And we were given information that we had a problem. We contacted our tech people, and I believe we have the whole thing fixed. Everything's good. So we're hoping, knock on wood, that we don't have any more glitches tonight, because last time we had some YouTube problems. So hopefully we will not have those problems tonight. All right. We're going to start out the meeting by public input. And what we'd like you to do is come up. You have three minutes to speak. Identify yourself, where you're from. And please keep it within three minutes, and we'll go from there. All right? So I'm going to approach the bench, Deus, one at a time. And we'll have a public agenda meeting information.

It's on. OK. Christine Scolet of the 8842 New Country Drive. Good evening. Tonight, as a member of the Recreation and Parks Commission, in support of establishing seasonal operating hours for Williams Park, 6 a.m. to 8 p.m., Memorial Day through Columbus Day. This board voted down our prior request in April 2026, and over the summer, it made the case for why we're back before you tonight asking for your reconsideration of this matter. Our commission has heard directly about the increase in after hours activity at the park, people staying well past the time that the parks department staff leave for the day. That activity has led to more than 20 calls to law enforcement over the summer, along with repeated complaints from neighboring residents about trespassing and loud music at night. And it also left us with extra cleanup for the park staff to take care of each morning. Having defined hours allows park staff to maintain and secure the park properly. It also gives staff, visitors, as well as law enforcement a clear, consistent, enforceable expectation of when the park is open. 20-plus calls to law enforcement in a single season is a clear signal that the current approach is not working. As a commissioner, I'm asking the board to reconsider and adopt this policy tonight. I believe this is a reasonable step that protects the park and the people around it without taking anything away from the public's ability to enjoy it. Thank you very much.

And thank you. OK. Whoever would like to come up next to speak about an item agenda or just something to speak about, go right ahead.

I have 3 letters here. We have complaints that we had this year from neighboring residents. They were not able to be here at the meeting, so I have 3 letters from residents that I'd like to read. So Dear town board members, my name is Phil Bova and I reside at 7025 Lakeshore Road for the past four years. I am ready to express my growing concern regarding the nuisance, safety, and quality of life issues associated with Williams Beach, particularly during the late evening hours. i understand and appreciate that williams beach is a community resource intended to be enjoyed by residents and visitors my concern is not with the park itself or with the many people who visit it responsibly unfortunately there have been repeated occasions when activity at or associated with the park has resulted in excessive loud music disturbances and fights littering and situations requiring police response Another recurring issue is the amount of trash left behind by some park visitors, including empty beer cans and other debris. These conditions are frustrating for nearby residents and detract from both the park and the surrounding residential neighborhood. Of even greater concern is the traffic and speed associated with vehicles traveling to and from the park. Those of us living on Lakeshore Road regularly see vehicles traveling well above the posted speed limit. In many instances, vehicles that pass our homes at excessive speeds while heading toward the park appear to be going directly to Williams Beach. Just last evening, I experienced another concerning example. When I arrived home at approximately 10.30, a vehicle leaving the park sped past our homes on Lakeshore Road, what appeared to be a very high rate of speed. Rather than slowing down as it continued along the residential roadway, the vehicle continued to accelerate as it traveled in the direction of Lakeshore Country Club. At that hour, this type of driving presents as unnecessary and potentially serious danger for residents, pedestrians, other motorists, and anyone entering or exiting their driveways. When the traffic concerns are considered together with the late evening loud music fights litter alcohol related debris and police calls, I believe it's reasonable for the town to reconsider whether the current operating hours at Williams Beach are appropriate for a park located in close proximity to a residential neighborhood. I respectfully request that the town board consider establishing an earlier closing time for the Williams Beach, particularly during the evening hours. I also ask the town to consider increased enforcement in the park's closing time, noise and alcohol regulations, littering rules, and posted speed limit on the Lakeshore Road during periods of heavier park activity. The goal is not to unnecessarily restrict responsible use of Williams Beach. Rather, I believe the reasonable operating hours and appropriate enforcement could allow the public to continue to enjoy the park while reducing the late night activity that has negatively affected the safety and quality of life for those who live nearby. After living here for four years and observing these issues repeatedly, I believe the reasonable changes are warranted. I respectfully ask the town board to review the situation and consider steps that will better balance public access to Williams Beach with the safety and peaceful enjoyment of the surrounding neighborhood. Thank you for your time and consideration. I would be happy to discuss any concerns further or provide additional information regarding what I have personally observed. Sincerely, Paul Bova, 7025 Lakeshore Road. Am I fine to continue?

Yes, we'll count each one of those as separate entities.

Do a short one here. My name is Gonal Yoskel. I live across the street at Williams Park, 7030 Lakeshore Road. I have been here more than 10 years. I'm ready to ask for help with an ongoing issue at the park. People and groups of kids frequently staying at the park after hours, yelling, screaming, and I'm scared to open my windows to look out. Could you please clarify the park hours? And if there can be someone monitoring the park after hours, where there are large groups of kids and even adults gathering late at night, my concern is my safety and the peace of the neighborhood. I would appreciate it if the town could look into the situation and take appropriate action for after hours. Maybe you can have some kind of gate that closes the parking lot. Thank you. Ganul Yuxgal. Sorry, not not sure the name. One last one. Dear town board members, I'm ready to share a few recommendations regarding William F. Memorial Park. Before I address those recommendations, however, I want to begin by recognizing what an incredible resource this park has become for our community. My family is fortunate to live right next to the park, and over the years it has become a very special part of our lives. We have reached the park We have watched the park continue to grow and improve, and it truly offers something for people of all ages. The splash pad is incredible. The new playground is wonderful, and the beautiful sandy beach with its shallow sandy bottom swimming area gives young children a safe and inviting place to play, explore, and enjoy the lake. The long dock is another favorite gathering place for people to fish, sit by the water, and simply enjoy the lake. It holds a particularly special place in my heart because it's where my daughter learned to walk. Joseph F. William Memorial Park has also become much more than its physical amenities. The Thursday night summer concert series, complete with food trucks, ice cream trucks, kayak and canoe events, toddler programs, free library, traveling library, all make it truly a community gathering place. Its value certainly does not end when summer does directly across the street. The approximate one mile trail through Marie's Woods provides another wonderful recreational opportunity. While the trail can admittedly get a little buggy and wet during the warmer months and winter, it becomes a fantastic snowshoe trail. Last year I was there with my daughter, and we learned how to snowshoe. These may sound like small moments, but to our family, they are magical memories. I know we are not the only family making memories like these here at William F. Memorial Park. It is truly a treasure to have in our community, and my recommendations come from the desire to protect that treasure and make it even better. Winter restroom facilities. My first recommendation is to provide some type of restroom facility during the winter months. I completely understand why the permanent bathrooms may need to be closed and winterized to prevent freezing and damage. However, the park continues to receive significant use throughout the winter, particularly from ice first men who park their trucks and trailers across from the lake. Parking area is also used by people accessing Marie's Woods for the winter recreation. Last winter, there were no permanent restrooms available and no portable toilets provided. Unfortunately, on two separate occasions, while my daughter and I were walking through the parking lot to snowshoe with our very curious puppy along for the adventure, we encountered people relieving themselves in the parking lot. I'll spare you the details, but I think everyone can understand why it's not an ideal situation for the park visitor and neighboring residents or the individuals who find themselves without a restroom option. If the permanent facilities cannot reasonably remain open during the winter, I would respectfully ask the town to consider providing one or more seasonal portable toilets while the park and the lake continue to receive winter use. It seems like relatively simple solution for a very real sanitation problem. establishing park hours and protecting the park after hours my second recommendation is for the town to establish reasonable posted operating hours for joseph f memorial park and consider restricting vehicle access to the park parking lot after closing currently the park does not appear to have defined opening and closing hours as a result vehicles can enter and remain in the park parking lot at all hours of the night living next to the park we unfortunately have front row seats to some of the activity that occurs during the late night hours We have witnessed suspected drug activity, fireworks, dirt bikes being ridden through the park, including in across the splash pad in the children's playground, and other inappropriate after-hour use. My concern is not simply about the inconvenience of living next to a public park. We love this park. We love seeing families enjoy the beach, children playing on the playground, people gathering for concerts, fishermen heading out to the lake, and neighbors enjoying everything this place has to offer. My concern is about protecting it. The town and our community have invested a great deal into making Joseph F. William Memorial Park what it is today. The playground, splash pad, beach, dock, grounds, and community programming represent the investment that deserves to be protected. Damage caused by vehicles, vandalism, and other inappropriate late night activity could result in costly repairs, and even more importantly, diminish a space that so many families enjoy. Establishing posted park hours would create a clear expectation for appropriate use and provide a clear basis for addressing people who remain in the park after closing. I would also encourage the town to explore whether the parking lot could be physically closed to vehicles during those hours through a gate or another reasonable measure. The goal is not to make Joseph F. William Memorial Park less accessible. The goal is to protect it so it can remain accessible, beautiful, and welcoming for generations to come. We are incredibly grateful to have this park as our neighbor. My daughter learned to walk at the dock. She played on the beach, explores a lake, enjoys a playground in the splash bag, attended community events, and learned how to snowshoe across the street at Marie's Woods. Those memories our family will carry with us for the rest of our lives. And I want future families to have the opportunity to make the same kind of memories. For this reason, I respectfully ask the town to consider two relatively straightforward improvements, providing seasonal restroom facilities during the winter months and establishing reasonable park operating hours, including consideration of restricting parking lot access after closing. Joseph F. William Memorial Park is one of our community's treasures. I hope we can continue not only to improve it, but also protect everything that makes it such a special place. Thank you for your time, your consideration, and your continued investment

the town has made in this wonderful community resource respectfully kristin boylan gives her phone number and her residence 7008 lakeshore road cesaro 13039 okay thank you for those three responses uh read by uh jessica sillier we have anybody else who would like to have any additional comments before we commence the rest of the meeting all right well thank you very much for all of your comments Counselor McCulloch.

Hiring Jesse R. Miller, Step 5 police officer. Moved to adoption resolution to hire Jesse R. Miller as full-time Step 5 police officer at a starting pay rate of $84,982 per year, effective September 13th. 2026 budget code zero zero two dash three one two zero dash zero one zero zero dash zero zero zero second thank you uh discussion the board okay i'll move uh all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carries now can i get a proper pronunciation of the last name here I was close. Thank you. I don't want to botch it. Hiring Jane DeBegin, full-time recruit police officer. Moved the adoption resolution to hire Jane DeBegin as full-time recruit police officer at a starting pay rate of $61,130 per year, effective September 14th, 2026. Budget code 002-3120-0100-000. Second. Do we have any board comments on this as well?

Okay, I'm going to call for a voice vote. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted. And I'm assuming we're going to have some pictures and things handed out, right? All right.

We hired him as a part-time police officer. He came to us from New Jersey, so he had a New Jersey certification. And we're just wrapping up 225 hours of New York State certifications. So that's why I'm transitioning into the full-time position that was making my mom retiree. Jane comes to us as a police recruit. Her mother works at Onondaga County Civil Service, always been a great help to me. And she's also went to CNS High School right up toward Glebe her senior year when she went to prep school with Blancott. So then she continued her education down in the Maryland area, if I remember correctly. And we're lucky enough that it is so competitive right now, hiring a police officer, that she chose the town of Cicero to come back home and work for us. So Jane, if you and your mom and dad want to come up for your swing in. Staying right there, and mom on one side, dad on the other. All right, raise your right hand. Checking off people's way. I state your name, do solemnly swear.

I, Jane DeBegian, do solemnly swear.

That I'll support the Constitution of the United States.

That I'll support the Constitution of the United States.

In the Constitution of the state of New York.

In the Constitution of the state of New York.

All laws of New York State.

All laws of New York State. In the town of Cicero. In the town of Cicero.

And the rules and regulations.

and the rules of regulation of the town of Cicero Police Department, I will faithfully discharge the duties of police officer for the town of Cicero Police Department according to the best of my ability and with the highest level of integrity. Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Perfect. We'll stop.

We'll let them all clear out. It's always a great day to add new people to the fold, especially in this day and age when getting officers to commit to any position anywhere is very difficult. And Chief Latino has done a bang up job in getting the people in here. Sometimes he just makes it out of thin air. So we appreciate all that he does. Okay, let's move to ask for the adoption of a resolution approving abstract number 34 of 2026 dated 826 2026 abstract number 35 of 2026 dated 9 to 2026 Second, thank you board comments on the abstracts anything that you have looked Counselor party of course is not voting it will be voting on all abstracts with the exception of those pertain national grid Is that still the policy?

Yeah, we'll be voting on the abstracts with the exception of national good business.

OK. Any discussion on the abstracts? Anything that we need to talk about? OK. Closed discussion. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? The motion carries.

We're going to open the public hearing right now.

Okay. I'm going to move to waive the reading of the legal notice, which has been posted and advertised at the proper time. So can we have a second on that?

Second.

Okay. A voice vote on waiving that. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion is adopted. I'm going to open the hearing at 621 p.m. Okay. Would anybody like to speak for or against the used to regulate electric bikes, motorized scooters, so on and so forth. We're going to talk about that. And we're going to move into the Seeker, right? Move right into the Seeker. Yeah, I opened it up. I'm sorry, I've opened it up. Do I have a second to open it up? It's 621?

Second.

OK, thank you. Any board comments about opening this? OK. All right. At this point, put a motion for? OK. So we did a motion. So no one's come up to talk about it. So Chief was going to talk about this, but he's out there. So he's not able to.

So shall we bring him back in?

I think we might want to. I think, yes. Yeah. Let's see. Could you go out and ask Chief to? It's his time to talk about this. Is he coming? All right, chief, we've opened up the public hearing about the, uh, Motorized vehicles, so electric bikes, motorized scooters, and motorized mobility devices within the town of Cicero in response to serious safety concerns raised by town residents. And we'd like you to speak on that. Thank you.

Sure. Maybe six months ago, back in the spring, the town board brought up the idea of a local law to address the problem that we're having with e-bikes, not just e-bikes, but off-road vehicles here in the town of Cicero, and to be quite honest, throughout New York State and other places around the country. So when I told the town board what I would do is I would reach out to the New York State Association of Chiefs of Police and I requested from multiple jurisdictions from around New York State looking for model local laws regarding this. I harvested all that information. Suffolk County and some agencies down there probably had the best, but I also took some local ones like Baldensville, Geddes, Salve, and I drafted up, and again, I was just drafting this, a local law for e-bikes and for off-road vehicles that I thought would best fit the town of Cicero. I provided it to the board, and you guys had it for quite some time now. I'll review it, and... I believe it was sent to the attorney. And I know you guys have some discussion on fines and things like that, but that is not my issue. That is a town board issue to come up with what you feel would be fair fines. And... As many of you probably either see on social media or you physically see around town, we do have a problem with e-bikes and off-road vehicles here in the town of Cicero along with everywhere else. And we've been addressing them throughout the summer. I have a couple police officers that are assigned to it. They've been doing a great job with it. They actually spend up to 30 minutes talking to these... I'll be honest with you, most of them are kids. Talking with the kids, building relationships with them. So part of this local law also is we don't go out and target these e-bikes or off-road vehicles. If they draw our attention, like driving reckless or doing things, we'll stop them. And we're a strong believer in education. So we use education, and if education doesn't work, we use enforcement. So the local laws would just be another tool to assist us to make our roadways, our visitors, our residents, and our kids safer in Cicero.

Thank you. I've received complaints all the time at town hall as well as home. I get people calling me at home and texting me about this all the time. What are we going to do about it? And I say the same thing every single time. We're working on it. We've drafted some laws, and we're trying to get this into effect. This is not a problem that exists only in Cicero. You go anywhere, and you're going to see this. It's run rampant. But we're trying to get some enforcement with some teeth so that our authorities can enforce this and get people off the roads. Because I don't want to see somebody die on our roads. I really don't. That would pain me. And I know it would pain this board if we saw some young people killed for being on those things. So Wes, did you want to talk about the park place to ride there? OK.

Wesley Sweetman, Canteen. So I think that you said it beautifully that education is very much a part of what has to happen in order to prevent these types of things because laws are great, but there has to be a marriage between enforcement and prevention. So first I want to state that the Friends of the Canteen received a grant for public safety and is willing to work with the Cicero Youth Bureau, the police, to create some type of public safety outreach regarding e-bikes and education. So if that is something that you're open to and the town is open to, that would be a collaboration that they are very much willing to do. Um, with that being said, uh, the other thing is providing safe alternatives. Uh, and I've been doing some research into this. And 1 of the things that is available is the trails program grant, which is codified in the federal law. Uh, and every year it opens up, uh, this go around. It was for nonprofits exclusively. come twenty twenty seven it's going to be open for municipalities uh... so that is an option that we can pursue uh... and what that would do is we would work with the community to figure out where a trail a public trail could be To be accessed in part by, uh, civilians and pedestrians as well as motors motored vehicles. Uh, and it would have to be percentage wise, uh, and the commission would work with us on that the trails commission. So. If that is something that the town decides that they would like to pursue, that is an option that I, on behalf of the sister youth bureau and parks and rec department would be willing to pursue. So. That's what I have from that. I have been speaking with the young people of the community as my job directly intersects with a vast majority of the young people who. engage in e-bikes and electric motorcycles so a lot of parents have no idea what it is that they're actually buying their kids and they think that it's a cool toy but a lot of young people that i've spoken to said that there's not really they really like having the the dirt bikes and stuff but there's no place for them to use them i grew up in the middle of nowhere so like we were able to go take our dirt bikes out in the backyard. But here in Cicero, unless you live out in the sticks, there's not really much for you to do. And some of the young people that I've spoken to said that the only location for them to really access anything like this is on the other side of the lake. And they said that that's not something that they can do obviously as they are confined to this community. So there are lots of different avenues that this would open up as well as creating specific locations to access the trails like specific roads, but again that's for a different time I just wanted to make sure that the town and the board was aware of that so.

Thank you, Wes. Also, Chief has pointed out, we've had this discussion before, that there's going to be education through the police force. They're going to have clinics and seminars and so on to teach these kids responsible rules of the road. So it's not just going to be enforcement. It's going to be enforcement slash education as well. Okay, do I have anybody else who wants to speak out for or against this? Please come up, identify yourself.

Hi, everybody. I'm Susan Greedom, 8315 Cody's Corners in the Pastures. We don't have sidewalks. And I have always enjoyed bicycling for many, many years and have done long bike treks. And one of the things you learn is how to pass somebody properly. And what I have observed over the last year traveling down the west coast of Florida, up the east coast of Florida, the Carolinas, spent the winter down there and have seen a lot of activity on e-bikes. Burlington, Vermont has a wonderful bike trail that's well marked with lanes. Up there, I saw that people were very respectful. In Florida, that was not the case. You might be walking on a pedestrian or bike path, and somebody comes whizzing by you on an e-bike and has no idea of even giving you an idea that they're coming, so you feel like you're going to get run over. Marathon, Florida, I saw a lot of that, so... guess a little bit of my concern and I didn't study the proposal all that much that if e-bikes are on the road you're limited to 30 miles an hour and the rules of the road and on a sidewalk it was 20 and Okay, okay. So 30 miles an hour is really fast. I know when I'm in the pastures and I'm going 25, some people look at me like I'm speeding. So I... I'm concerned about the proliferation of them and not seeing a lot of helmets. I worked 35 years in health care at Upstate, and head injuries are a huge concern. So I think this is a good step to address it. And in the future, we might think of if we could have designated health side paths on some of the roads that are for two-wheeled vehicles and I'd also like to compliment Oswego has a nice trail along the river where they have a like a sport bike park And that was pretty well attended. And it didn't seem like there was a lot of craziness going on there. And that's a good way for a lot of young people to use up their energy.

Thank you. Okay, anybody else up to speak on this for against, please come up, identify yourself.

Good evening. Nicole Capsello, 6290 Wrights Hotel Course. I think I have a question more for the Chief. The law, New York State law, states that anyone under the age of 16 is not supposed to be operating these vehicles. Correct. The majority of people operating these vehicles are under the age of 16. Correct. Is there a plan to enforce that? Because, I mean... We have in our neighborhood, which scares the life out of me, toddlers at times, five-year-olds riding these things through our streets. And I don't know that education is really going to help keep them safe at this point.

Well, education actually has worked somewhat because we have been noticing more folks wearing helmets now that we've spoken to. But the ones who want to continue to... drive recklessly or not use education as a enhancement to not get in trouble. And if they're under 16, we're going to start holding parents accountable.

Okay.

It's going to be plain as day and they could be subject to a, in danger and a welfare of a child.

Okay. Thank you.

All right. Do we have anyone else in the crowd who would like to speak on this? Please come up, identify yourself.

Good evening. My name is Kudik Abrams. I'm at 1683 McKinley Road. Very much for regulation of the e-bikes and essentially non-cars on roads, whether it be UTVs, ATVs, dirt bikes. It'll be, I think, prudent to implement a registration system. So if somebody is out on a bike, they should, on an e-bike or what have you, there's always a serial number. to them and to register that with the specific age. So they're required to, so that way we know whose property this is and who it belongs to, but also a way of tracking for issues. I've seen many a time, especially down 31 by fast track where it meets 81. I saw somebody doing a wheelie right through it, red light, and obviously living on McKinley, there's a lot of new TVs, and there is a trail there, so most of them go there, but it is way too often that I see non-registered vehicles on the road, especially late at night. Additionally, like I said, would the registration allow to know who it belongs to and cite accordingly to the proper people? Thank you.

Thank you. We have anybody else who would like to speak for or against before we solicit board comments and move on? All right. Board comments, please. Anybody have anything to say on this? Okay. In that case, I will close the hearing at 636.

All right secret move for the adoption of a resolution to declare the new local on number 2 of 2026 to be a type 2 action for secret purposes, no further action is required.

I will second. All in favor say aye aye opposed abstentions motion is adopted.

Move for the adoption of a resolution to approve the regulation for the use of electric bicycles, motorized scooters, and other motorized mobility devices within the town of Cicero in response to serious safety concerns raised by town residents to be known as local law number two of 2026.

I will second that as well. Okay, we've had our discussion time, so call for a voice vote. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted. I'm going to move to waive the reading of the legal notice, which has been posted and advertised at the proper time. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted. This is the second part of our public hearing to regulate the operation of off-road vehicles, dirt bikes, and standard golf carts. I'm going to open that at 637. Excuse me. Okay. The hearing is open. Would anybody like to speak for and against? This is the partner to the first law, which just expands it beyond two other classes of vehicles. Anybody want to speak for or against that? Or do we cover it from before? Okay. In that case, board comments? Anything on this board? Okay. We will close the hearing at 6.38 p.m. And we've got the seeker. Is that you? Who's the seeker? Well, I guess I'll read it. Move for the adoption of a resolution to declare the new local law number three of 2026 to be a type two action for seeker purpose. No further action is required. Do I have a second? Second. Okay. Voice vote. All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted. all right here we go move for the adoption of a resolution to approve deny the regulation of the operation of off-road approve the operation of off-road vehicles dirt bikes and standard golf carts within the town of cicero to be known as local law number three of 2026 second thank you uh we've had our discussion so um would you like more discussion yeah right ahead um

This is the problem where it is on the off-road vehicles. There's state laws already in place. We need to enforce those, but we all know it's difficult to enforce them because you can't pursue anybody in this world because if you do and they tip over, get hurt, whatever, then the town becomes liable. I've talked to the chief on another situation pertaining to this that I would like to have further discussion with stricter laws as far as if they try to evade the police or run from the police, that we have something in place that's a little more stricter, you know, put a little pressure on them to stop because it's going to be expensive if they do get caught and they do decide to run from the police. But one of the questions I do have on here with the golf carts, we have golf courses in the town of Cicero, and I think we've got to get some language in there if this is going to get passed because they do cross the roadway, and I believe it states they have to have a helmet on in a golf cart. So if we're going to put some restriction on is how are we going to regulate the golf courses? I just would like to clarify that, that I just was reading it before I came here tonight and thought about that one, but.

Okay. Well, you don't really need a helmet on a golf cart. That might have just been an error in local law. And as far as if you're talking about the golf courses, we do get complaints about Lake Shore Country Club, not cutting across the street, but driving down the road from residents up there. And that's why we included golf carts.

All right, thank you. Do we have any other discussion? This is up for a motion, and we'll be up for a vote. Any other discussion?

Do we make an amendment to eliminate the helmets from, would you be in agreeance to that?

OK. Can we do that? Do we have to motion second through that, or do we just make the part? OK.

If you so choose, you could include it in your motion to amend it to omit the requirement of helmets on golf carts.

Okay. All right. So I'm going to make a motion to amend what we're going to vote on to eliminate the use of helmets on golf carts in the town of Cicero. Do I have a second? Second. Okay. Any discussion on that? It seems reasonable. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. That carries. Now, we have the original motion itself, so we're going to have to vote on that as well, as amended, I should say. So all in favor of the motion, say aye.

Aye.

Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted. Move for the adoption of a resolution to approve a regular town board meeting to be held on Monday, November 16th, 2026, at 6 o'clock p.m., Cicero Town Hall, 8236 Brewerton Road, Cicero, New York, 13039. Do I have a second? Thank you. All right. Obviously, we have to have a meeting in November. The clerk, Castleman, went over a bunch of dates. We looked at a bunch of things. And she came up with some dates. And we looked at it together. It looks as though the 16th of November, that Monday, looks to be about the best day. We'd rather not have it on a Friday. We're going to try to avoid the Thanksgiving week as well. But we do need a board meeting. So we're thinking the 16th, Monday. There's not a lot of dates available, unfortunately, in this town hall. So we have to go with what we have. So any other discussion on this? Okay. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Set a public hearing date for the continuation of public hearing to consider a proposal or proposed local law regarding a temporary moratorium prohibiting any zone changes or special permit applications related to the establishment of large-scale data centers. Move the adoption of resolution. to set Monday, November 16th, 2026, for the continuation of a public hearing to consider a proposed local law regarding temporary moratorium prohibiting any zone changes or special permit applications related to the establishment of large-scale data centers, artificial intelligence, AI computing facilities, cryptocurrency mining operations, and similar high-intensity computing uses and complexes in the town of Cicero, to be known as Local Law No. 4-2026.

Do we have a second?

Second.

Okay. Discussion on this? Setting the public hearing? Okay.

Sorry.

Okay. This is not a public hearing, sir. I'm sorry. We kind of got, unfortunately, you can come to the public hearing on the 16th. We'd certainly invite you to that.

That's the attorney. Cause the public hearing is still open. So is it still open for this? Cause it's continuation. And then we're just going to continue to the next meeting.

come on the 16th this motion is to set a public hearing correct and so it's not a public hearing so the motions on the on the table the last thing we closed we never closed the public we never closed it we kept it open yeah but you didn't advertise it for tonight okay correct so are we voting on this or we have to vote on all right okay

Voting on setting a public hearing.

The continuation of the public hearing.

The continuation of the public hearing, right.

Yeah.

All right. So on November 16th, so we have a second discussion. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Police appropriate revenue budget code for reserves move for the adoption of the resolution to appropriate $3,825 from revenue budget code 002-0000-1520-0001 additional detailed revenue to budget code 002-3120- 0220-0001 Vehicle Replacement Reserve for reimbursement for fuel and maintenance from Petillo Van Agro.

I will second. Do we have any discussion on this?

Yeah, we've had a similar resolution a couple other times. And in those cases, we were moving the money that we had collected to the repair expense line in the budget, which I had said, since it was extra revenue, I really would like to see us hang on to it for a rainy day kind of thing. So this is exactly what I was looking for. We're kind of putting away towards replacement vehicles down the road. So I'm pleased with this change and will definitely support this.

Great. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Set a bid date for the Cicero Police Department plowing, salting, clearing sidewalks. Move for the adoption of a resolution to re-solicit bids for plowing, salting, clearing sidewalks for the Cicero Police Department located at 6200 State Route 31, Cicero, NY 130. 039. Sealed bids clearly labeled Cicero Police Department plowing, salting, clearing sidewalks bid on the outside of the envelope. Must be received at the Cicero Town Clerk's Office, 8236 Brewerton Road, Cicero, New York 13039 by Thursday, September 17th, 2026 at 10 a.m. to be opened in public.

Second. Do we have any discussion on this? Okay. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Crack-filling driveways on newly paved roads. Move for the adoption of resolution to approve suit coat on on company contract number 5902 in the amount of $15,000. Budget code 003511245400000. I will second.

Do we have discussion on this?

Um, the only discussion I have on this and it kind of applies to the other ones as well. Um, just we had been working on getting the description of the budget codes with these kinds of things. So we know what budget line it is rather than just a code number. So just to ask again for the future, I'm not going to ask anybody to come up with them right now because they're complicated. But if we could get those in the future just to know where they're hitting.

That one's capital paving. I know that one.

Oh, hey. Thank you.

Any other discussion?

Just for clarification, that's the Onondaga County contract.

Yes. Yes, it is. Anything else? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion is adopted.

Move for the adoption of a resolution to approve Syracuse Retreaters Onondaga County contract number 5892 in the amount of $15,000, budget code 00351304350000. Do we have a second?

Second. A discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion is adopted.

Move for the adoption of a resolution to approve Cook brothers in the amount of $9,000 budget code 0, 0, 3, 5, 1, 3, 0, 4, 3, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0. The other quote was Tracy road equipment, $11,211 94 cents. I will second.

Do we have any discussion on this?

The resolution doesn't say what it's for exactly.

Okay.

Okay, thank you. Technical stuff. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Move for the adoption of a resolution to approve steel sales and company New York State contract number PC70694 in the amount of $15,000, budget code 0035110455400000. Do we have a second? Second. Okay, discussion on this.

Again, what is this? It's not in the verbiage.

It says it right at the beginning of it. It's for the ADN fight.

Okay. Yeah, I just wanted it to be in the record that way. Thank you.

Any other discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion carries.

Move to adopt resolution to hire Rafael Marino for the position of motor equipment operator apprentice at an hourly rate of $29.87 with a start date on or about September 24th, 2026. Budget code, highway summer wages, 003511001000. I will second. Do we have any discussion on this, gentlemen?

Just a question. I see that budget code is for highway summer wages, which September 24th seems kind of odd. Should that money be moved to a budget mod, or is it OK just to come out of that line?

There's another budget line that they use for the winter. OK, so. We switch over the budget code late October-ish.

OK. All right. Thank you. All right. Any other discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Move to adopt a resolution to hire Luke Tuller.

Tuller.

Tuller. For the position of Motor Equipment Operator Apprentice at an hourly rate of $29.87 with a start date on or about September 24, 2026, budget code Highway Summer Wages 00351100100000.

I will second. Any discussion on Luke Tuller? Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Move for the adoption of a resolution granting an option for an easement agreement and actual easement agreement if exercised between the Town of Cicero and National Grid. National Grid is improving the service lines as part of the Clay to Tar Hill and Black River transmission project. and is requesting a power easement from the town of Cicero across the side of town property identified as tax map number 063.000116.-01-19.3 and shown on accompanying map. The compensation offered for the initial opening agreement is $1,000 with payment of an additional $2,015 if the option is exercised according to the terms. This resolution also authorizes the supervisor to execute the documents necessary to complete the transaction. will second um i'm assuming counselor uh yes party you'll be i will be excusing yourself from this okay uh any other discussion on this is just uh something that we i don't think the accompanying map was posted with the board stuff online so i don't know that i've seen the accompanying map can somebody just tell me where this tax map is oh

Because there was a map that was within those. It wasn't the official tax map. OK. You know, I apologize because I just look at it online. Yeah, I didn't. OK. Yeah, I didn't know, you know, go on to the Onondaga County site. But this property, for those who aren't aware, it's just south of Guy Young Road. It's a landlocked property that apparently was donated to the town. I don't know, within the last 20 years, maybe, with the hope maybe some day that parks could do something, but the only access to it is through the National Grid easement. So we had been in talks with National Grid about us doing the trail and all that, and then had gotten pretty far, and then they're upgrading the line, so everything's on hold until their line is upgraded.

Okay, thank you. All right, thank you. Additional discussion on this? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstention? Motion is adopted.

Whereas there is no debt in any of the town's 34 water districts and eight hydrant districts, and whereas consolidation of these districts into one district within the town would provide many benefits to include billing equity, simplification of tax bill preparations, providing a viable financial process for infrastructure improvements, and eliminating the need to create a new water district for new development not located in an existing water district, and whereas the town solicited a proposal from Harris Beach Mirtha Attorneys at Law for legal services to assist with the consolidation estimated to be approximately $30,000, therefore be it resolved that the town approves the August 20th, 2026 proposal for legal services from Harris Beach Mirtha Attorneys at Law and to establish the Water District Consolidation Budget Code Budget code 001-8310-4000-0000. And to appropriate general fund balance in the amount of $30,000, budget code 001-8310-4000-0000. Water district consolidation. I will second. Thank you. Kate, would you like to speak to this a little bit?

Well, this is something we've been talking about for a couple of years, and Trey and I were hoping to get this done. There's just so many reasons, but they go through a lot with billing. Anytime a developer comes in, if they're not located in a water district, they have to go through this whole rigmarole of establishing a water district. It just makes sense to consolidate. And then came the infrastructure issues that we were all made aware of recently. it's a really specialized type of practice, you know, so Robert Germain had recommended what attorney we could use because it's not run of the mill stuff working with these municipal districts. So anyways, Harris Beach Martha was they responded and we're excited to finally maybe make this happen. So

This has been coming for a long time from what I understand. It's something that has been necessary.

Yeah. So finally, we bit the bullet and went for it. And the timing was good because we had the board's attention.

All right. Water is an issue. So all right. Any other discussion on this on the board?

As geeky and ridiculous as it may sound, I am absolutely excited about this. This is fantastic. I've talked to Trey about this. I've talked to you. It's just it's a beautiful thing. And so I'm so glad that this is finally before us.

It's certainly an exciting issue. So all right. Any other discussion from the board? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, abstentions? Motion is adopted.

Parks and Recreation resolution establishing seasonal operational hours for Joseph F. William Memorial Park, whereas the town board of the town of Cicero recognizes the need to establish consistent seasonal operational hours for Joseph F. William Memorial Park, and whereas establishing designated operational hours will provide clear expectations for residents, and park users while allowing the town to effectively manage staffing maintenance security and park operations now therefore be it resolved that the town board the town of cicero hereby establishes seasonal operation hours for joseph f william memorial park from 6 a.m to 8 p.m seven days a week memorial day through columbus day and the be it further resolved that the Parks and Recreation Department shall be responsible for implementing and communicating these seasonal operational hours, including appropriate signage and public notification. Can somebody read the proposed?

No, you don't have to read that. I will second this, and let's have some discussion from the board as well as hearing from the Parks and Recreation Department themselves. We've already heard earlier from some town residents, so we want to continue this out. So, Tony, would you like to speak to this a little bit?

yeah we've we've seen things we we approached it early on about setting these hours um i know that the town board didn't want to do a local law so we've reached out to other municipalities on what they're doing and they said to set operational hours through a policy through the town um board approval uh obviously what we're doing now is not working the signage that we have is not working um We have a lot of outside residents coming and visiting. We have a lot of visitors, which is a good problem to have, but we need to manage those visitors and people coming to our park. The only thing comparable to what we have is Onondaga Park up at Oneida Shores. They have the same things that we have, beachfront and splash pad. And then you go down the street a little bit further, they have Verona State Park, which they have beachfront and water park. And they have operational hours. They set times and they allow people in and people out. We're the same thing on the same beachfront and all that. So we want to make sure we're doing the thing. The only difference between them and us is we're free. So people are coming to visit us and people are coming to see what we have, which we have great amenities. We have great resources. And we just want to basically keep those open. on the forefront and say, hey, thank you for visiting, but it's time to leave now, and we're going to set those hours and tell people when they can come and when they need to leave.

Great. Chief, this is also going to help with enforcement as well, right?

to be honest with you, whether it's 6 AM to 8 PM or sunset to sunrise, we're going to do the same job. We're going to come when we're called. The hours seem reasonable to me. I don't have a problem with them. It will help us. I don't really think it makes a difference. But I do want to make a comment, though, that we did work with the Parks Department and the Parks Director this summer in July and August when we were having those problems. And I have been in communication with them about next summer, specifically July and August, to hopefully have some additional police there. Because not only does it act as a deterrent, immediately address the problems when they arise there. We also use it as a community policing tool to interact with the residents or visitors, no matter where they're from, and their kids. And it worked well this summer, and hopefully we can do it again next year. We can work it out with the Parks Department. This portion of the board meeting, it really doesn't matter to us. We're going to go and do our job, whether it's sunrise or sunset or 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. I know the last time we talked about this, some people brought up 5 a.m. if they're walking their dog. You don't have to worry about the police pulling in and giving you a hard time at 5 a.m. or 4.30 in the middle of July when the sun might be up. We don't do that. We're not going to do that if you're out enjoying the parks at 5 o'clock in the morning. So it could work either way.

Thank you. We've dealt with this problem quite a bit. Jessica, did you want to say something else? Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Yes, please. Yeah.

I have worked at the park for almost four years now. I have worked in the summertime. I do live the closest, right? I frequent the park because I'm a resident. I live on Lakeshore Road. My kids took swim lessons there. We grew up, we did concerts long before I worked there. I've been going there. It's an awesome park, but I will say going there at nighttime, the staff that goes there, we hire people that are 16, 17, 18. If we can get a college kid that's here in the summer, that's great. With the people that we hire, a lot of times with the clientele or just the volume, if there's three or 400 people there, I'm going to ride down there and make sure staff is okay, things are running smoothly, parking's okay. You know, sometimes with new staff, they don't know whether, is this an issue to call the police? Is this, you know, is this just normal and really busy time. So I will frequent down there and just check out the park I ride by right I have family that lives between my house and the park so I'll drive by it frequently. One of the problems that we have is, you know, at nighttime 730 eight o'clock it's still light out. We have people just coming in. full charcoal grill in tow ready to have a fire like and it's eight o'clock you know and sometimes we're finding that there's a language barrier so we've done signs we have signs in three different languages we've tried to do that right all my all the staff has google translate so that we can approach people and talk to them um and let them know what the expectations are but i don't think a lot of people understand what dawn means so like if the park closes at dawn that's kind of hard to explain to somebody that may not speak English, or that's not their first language. So we are finding that that's a problem. And, too, like we want to be respectful. A lot of the neighbors come and walk their dogs, and they're there with their children, and they come to our window. My window sits by everybody, and they'll do the wave, and we come outside and talk to the neighbors. at nighttime at eight o'clock at night, there's a lot of people that would like to just kind of have it quieter. You know, they've listened to it all day long. The splash pads going off, kids are screaming, right? We've got music, we've got barbecues. So it would be really nice to have just a common respect and a compromise and a courtesy to be able to shut down the park. And the police did a great job this summer. We had, they worked great. I believe there's a great, when the police are there, the presence is awesome. You know, but they're not there all the time. They can't be there all the time. So having it set at an eight o'clock PM closing time is just a nice expectation for our staff to say, nope, I'm sorry, the park is closing, right? We can make announcements saying the park is closing, the bathrooms are closing. and we have that expectation. We have signs up. There's an expectation there. Our neighbors know it's going to be quiet from 8, 9 o'clock on, right? And we have a new fence. The fence is a little longer than it used to be. We can do other things once we set park hours. It's also, with the younger staff that we have, we don't have adults. Right. So I have to make sure I pair up. Right. So I'm not having one young person close at night. It can be intimidating if you have 100 people there and you're asking people, you know, park is closing and you're just you're there by yourself. So it does. It would be. just make more sense i think if we had park hours it would help with the closing it would help with trash it would help our neighbors i've been seeing it for three years it's a wonderful thing the splash pad is great the playground's great but we definitely attract hundreds and hundreds of people i mean i've been there there's 400 people at that park and it's crazy and you're like there's you know parking all along lakeshore road we have overflow the overflow parking is packed um so just a little bit of hey, this is not a free for all, right? We do that. We call the police. They respond quickly. They were down there. That is awesome. But just having expectations and stewarding the property well that we have.

I think this is a reasonable request. I guess I'm like on... i'm unsure of why we're spending so much time on it i had never had an issue with it to begin with i don't think there's that much of a difference i think the concern for me is like i think there's like false expectations that this is going to fix all the problems we're having so that's my biggest thing is that a lot of the problems that we're mentioning right now i don't think are going to be fixed with adding these hours i have zero problems with adding these hours and if you think that it's going to make a big difference great like i'm fine with that It's taking a step in that direction, right?

Is it going to fix everything? No, but we're taking those steps to try to fix the problems. If we don't do nothing, continue to do what we're doing now, that's the issue.

To me, I'm wondering why we're spending so much time on it. I am totally fine with changing the hours. I guess I'm just like, why are we spending so much time?

Well, here's the thing. We've talked to our neighbors. We've talked to our commission is all for it. And our department is full behind this.

Yeah.

Right. So we're everybody around that area is trying to push for these hours. And it's at a standstill.

Yeah, I'm fine with changing these hours. I guess for me, I think that there's more that probably needs to be done. It's a very small park. And that's part of the problem with Cicero is that we don't have enough public access to the beach in general. So that's a problem we're not going to fix with the hours. So for me, I just want to say, totally fine with these hours changed. I don't think it's going to fix everything. So that's kind of my stance on it.

I agree with Tony that this is a step in the direction we need to go, not a fix, but a step, and that's what we need here. So any other discussion from the board?

Yeah. I think we should take a different approach at it because I'm looking at the clock right now. It's, what, 7 after 7. I'm looking outside. It's going to be dark pretty soon. So by taking these hours at this time of the year, going to 8 o'clock, we're actually going to extend it. and we're gonna give them more time than what we currently have, I think there's a lot of problems that are going on with the park that we could address. I think we gotta do something different with the staffing. We've gotta really enforce the zero policy. So if one of our staff at the park asks an individual, you know, to please refrain from doing something that's not allowed here at the park, and they don't, Okay, we'll give them the courtesy. Then you ask them again if they refuse. Now if we have to call the police department, the conversation that should be with the police department, you know, hey, officer, I've asked them twice. They haven't complied. I'm asking you to have them removed. We shouldn't rely on the police department to say, hey, can you please stop that? Because for the staff to gain respect and have the ability to enforce the policies within the park, you've got to be able to enforce them yourself. And by having the police come do it, you're never going to gain that respect. So I think what we should do is we should step back from this. We've got till next year, all winter long, let's put together, let's put a team together. I'll be willing to be on the team and be part of it and work with you guys. Let's come up with a policy, like a plan forward, and let's fix this. Because I think there's a way to fix it. And as Councilor Hogan said, the hours aren't going to fix it. I've traveled to many, many parks. And they're either sunrise to sunset or dusk to dawn. I think if you go sunrise to sunset, everybody here tonight and in the audience watching has a cell phone or has a TV, newspaper, whatever. You can see the actual time for sunrise to sunset. Dusk to dawn, yes, I agree, you can put it out there. But if we had sunrise to sunset right now, the park would be closed.

You know, think with all due respect, the people who are fighting for these hours have more involvement with the parks than what we do. So if this is one little ask that we can give them, all I'm saying is let's not set the expectation. So this is just a small policy change that kind of gives them what they're asking for. I mean, they have more involvement than we do. So if they think it's gonna be a step in the right direction, I'm okay with that. But I like your idea of let's fix some other things with the policy going forward. But

And we can do that. This has been a multiple ask. This has not just been one simple ask. This has been, okay, we'll try it your way and see how it goes. And it's not working.

Currently, you're looking to extend the hour. Sorry, no.

We're not.

To 8 o'clock, it will extend the hour.

Sunset is 720 tonight, so you'd be closed.

It's just Columbus Day. It'll go to a certain period of time.

i think if you want to amend this to sunrise to sunset instead of dust to dawn i would support that but i'm not going to support till eight o'clock at night because from now till whatever the date is you have on here we are going to extend the hours of the park okay um do we have any other discussion we have a current question we have to vote on so go ahead

I think Chief gave us the answer. I think we should work with the police department and the parks department, somehow find funding to have a police officer there. I think that would really help. this issue overall. So if you're going to go from point A to point C, why go to B? Just go to C. That's my point. So during the budget process, I think we need to, as a board, think about making sure that we can have a police officer there during the high traffic hours and close.

Okay, any other discussion on this before we call for a... Can we amend it to go to Labor Day?

Can we switch it from Columbus State to Labor Day?

That would be, we'd have to vote on the amendment and then vote. Okay, so it looks as though we...

I still have comments, so I don't know. Go ahead. So again, I'm surprised that this is coming back because I don't understand, you know, the comment was made, well, we tried it your way. This would not have made any difference over this summer. I don't see. Of the 20 complaints, I'm assuming those are incident reports or are they resident complaints or whatever that was cited? Call us to the point. Okay. How many of them occurred after 8 p.m.?

The majority.

Everyone that was sent to us was during the day. I know some were passed along. I didn't see anything that was in the evening. Okay, well, four o'clock. How many are after eight? Yeah, go ahead. So again, I think that doing this is basically pointless. The police have already said this changes nothing from their ability to enforce the law. I see this as just a scapegoat for not taking other steps that should be taken. The staffing model needs to be looked at. You should not have minors closing by themselves at night. There should be a staff person that is of age, that is capable of holding their own, that's being scheduled. Again, that's a funding issue. I think the board and I would support something like that. But it won't change anything. And I would rather focus on these other steps rather than trying to say, well, yep, the summer was bad because the board didn't approve our hours. I find that doesn't hold water.

It's just trying to fix it. We're trying to make the appropriate steps in trying to fix the problem.

Why didn't the staffing model change? Why wasn't that the move?

We never changed the staffing model.

Right. Why didn't we say, you know what? Because I'm reading here, it's unsafe for these kids to be here at night monitoring this with the conditions. Why wasn't that addressed?

Why wasn't somebody... We can't find the staff to do the job.

So why weren't you there?

Around the clock, you want me to... I'm just saying, somebody... I can if I can flex my hours.

But if safety is the concern and this board's going to be accused of not monitoring the safety of these kids, I think that's a finger to point. That's not...

the hours that's you know what we've got to move we got to adapt the police department adapted and we have and and did a great job that was a good solution well we tried that and we and and it's it's working but it's not working to every time we talk to an officer they're all in agreement of getting people out of the park at a certain time so that's all we're trying to do is move people along and say the park is officially closed operational hours are done thank you for coming

You can do that now. Getting dark.

We need your approval to move people out. To set these hours.

To set these hours, but you already have a set of hours that are changeable with the sunrise and sunset, but yes. Yeah.

That can be 9.30, 9.40, 9.00.

Well, that's another thing. Maybe staff needs to be scheduled until 9 p.m. then during those hours so the park is accessible to people rather than people leaving earlier. So we're talking about 8 o'clock at night, we're going to kick everybody out of a park that still has an hour and a half of good daylight where our residents could be enjoying it?

No, we don't think it's our residents that are enjoying it. That's what we're saying is we have a lot of outside visitors coming to our park.

And there's nothing we can do to change that, and they're welcome to come to our park. After 8 p.m.? So the question that I have is, will the hours prevent the alcohol from coming? Will it stop the littering? Will it stop the fights? Will it stop the smoking? Will the hours stop all that stuff?

It will help because we'll have eyes and ears in the park helping assist that.

Why can't the eyes and ears be there now?

that are coming there at seven o'clock at night part of the problem so you have people arriving at seven seven thirty eight o'clock so that's the portion that would be helpful to say hey the park is closed you need to move along and then of course the enforcement right the police go by at 10 o'clock at night 11 they stop anyways so it'd be beneficial for us to be able to say the park is closed at instead of saying today at sunrise which is 9 27.

What I would recommend, someone had mentioned this earlier, is a gate would be a good idea. I like that. Well, if it's sunset, someone watches you start to shut the gate and you're going to lock it, they're probably going to move their car to get out of there or at least start to pack up. And then if someone shows up after sunset, now, sure, they may park across the street, but they're going to have a physical barrier, right, which would give us more justification if we have to go in there and ticket them for trespass because not only did they go over a fence or under a fence, you know, there was no open section of that park. that they went into, so I would highly recommend some type of gate system, at least for that one parking area. Wouldn't you put two gates then? You could do a swing gate. A gate on both sides? Sure, we'll get some quotes, but that would help.

We talked to our park staff when they were talking about putting a chain across the main north side entrance, the closest parking lot to the waterfront, put a chain across that. So at 8 o'clock when we go to leave and we say the park is closed, we would chain that off with cones and put signage out front saying that the park is closed and the beach is closed.

The only thing would change is if you happen to have, you know, someone riding a bike or an e-bike and they decide to cut it or they hit that, there might be some liability there. So when you have a physical gate, I would invest a little extra money, put a physical gate up.

Okay. I think we have pretty much made this, the discussion of this into different directions. And we do have a motion on the floor that I would like to get to. So I'm going to call now for a voice vote on this motion.

So amendment to labor day.

Well, let's, okay. So let's do the Labor Day part first. If everybody's in agreement, let's amend this and take, I'd like to have a motion to amend this from Memorial Day through Labor Day, not Columbus Day. Do I have a second? Thank you. Any other discussion on this Labor Day? We're talking about that issue.

Yeah, since it's discussion on that now, I mean, I don't support the concept overall, so I won't support amending it to a different date.

Thank you. Again, I would like to get together as a group and discuss a plan forward so next year when we hit the ground running with the park open, we have a plan to make it better.

Okay, we're voting now on the Labor Day. We have to vote on this and then we can move forward on that. So all in favor of amending this to the Memorial Day through Labor Day, say aye. Aye, anybody? Aye has two ayes. Opposed? Nay.

Nay.

Nay. Three nays. OK, so that motion is now taken off. So it's now original motion, Memorial Day through Columbus Day. So we're going to now call for a vote for the original motion. I'll call for a roll call vote for this particular issue. Go ahead.

Councilor Hogan? Yes. Councilor Daniel?

Nay.

Councilor Pardee?

Nay.

Councilor Beccalo?

As stated before, it's budget time. We can fix this with having police at the park. So I'm an no.

Supervisor Santucci? Yes.

Motion does not carry.

Set bid date for cemetery mowing. Move for the adoption of resolution to set a bid date for December 4th, 2026 at 11 a.m. Cicero Town Hall, 8236 Brewerton Road, Cicero, New York, 13039 to solicit bids for the cemetery mowing for three years, 2027 through 2029. Second. Okay. Discussion on this?

All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? We also missed the Parks and Recreation Commission member.

Oh, good catch. Motion to approve Zach Petrie to the Parks and Recreation Commission term to end December 31st, 2026. Second.

Discussion? All in favor say aye.

Aye. Opposed? Motion is adopted. Town's Tree for Holiday Tree Lighting. Move the adoption resolution to approve the supervisor to sign the contract with Aspinall Tree Nursery for $5,000 for the purchase and planting of a 20-foot northern spruce tree to be used for the town's holiday tree lighting. Budget code 001-7110-4700-0000. Tree Quotes. The Parks Department. has reached out to four companies. Only one would plant the tree and guarantee it for two years.

I will second. Let's have a discussion on this to give a large tree. I know Parks Department has worked very diligently on this, trying to come up. They've had several proposals, and this is the new iteration of this. And I support it. I think our town needs to have that kind of presence for the holidays. So I would definitely be in favor. Any other discussion on this?

I'm glad that we've gone this way to the real tree, and I appreciate all your efforts on it. And I did look at all the proposals, and I know this one is a little bit higher, but I think it's a better option because they're planning it and they're giving us a guarantee where the other ones, you know, we plan it and there's no guarantee. And sometimes pine trees, depending on the conditions, don't like to... take root and survive. So I think this is good. There has been some, you know, the placement's going to be one of the biggest things. You know, looking at the future expansion, if there's going to be any expansion in that intersection, where do we place the tree? You know, so that's something we got to think about.

And Tony Berkshaws promised me that he will stand there with a watering can for as long as it takes to make sure that thing takes roots. Any other discussion?

Yeah, I'm glad we made this move as well. Thank you for all the work you put into this, Tony, to identify this vendor and come up with the best deal for the town. I think this is great, so thank you. Wonderful. Any other discussion?

All in favor, say aye.

Aye. Opposed? The motion carries. Motion to approve the purchase of a 7x18 tilt bed trailer for small and heavier equipment from Syracuse Trailer and Power Sports in the amount of $9,097.70, budget code 001-7110-0220-0000. Quotes Tritrank Corp. $13,795. And then Sourcewell did not have the size tilt trailer.

Do I have a second? Second. Okay. Any discussion on this tilt bed trailer? Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Motion is adopted. Okay, that is the rest of our regular agenda now we're going to have public input from any speakers you'll have up to three minutes, if you do so choose please identify yourself and anything you'd like to say if not we'll we'll move on and close the meeting. Okay, seeing no one is here to say anything. Do we have any board comments or anything that we need to put on or Mr supervisor?

I did Steve's not here, but just reiterating what was mentioned 2 weeks ago. Again, two weeks go by. We have no update on our town codes update. I think the board should consider going, at least looking, to another vendor. This has been years. That's just my opinion.

Completely agree.

Right. We did have a talk with the consultant that was doing it and said, hey, listen, you're really putting us in a position. We need to get this done. You know, we need, I said, you're making us look bad. But anyways, I pushed for could we wrap up everything by the end of the year. So their argument is always, you know, their initial proposal was to do the entire codes update. And we have been, you know, certain things come up as a special thing so they've been forwarding, doing one code at a time. Right now, it's on the small, it's on the Airbnbs. So I had suggested to him, I said, well, let's just wrap it all in and get it all done by the end of the year. And he said, well, we're there with the Airbnbs, so let's advance that one. And they'll look at, he would not commit to finishing it by the end of the year. But we did put the pressure on, so the Airbnb one's gonna be advanced. and then they were going to also look at the one you were interested in, kind of the mother-in-law thing, and then the whole code has to come at the same time because every time we break out one, it's a lot more time-consuming because it's public hearing, separate law, all these things. So we kind of sidetracked them, but yes, they've been pretty silent over the summer.

I appreciate that. Who instituted the... Airbnb. Who was involved in that?

I think it probably happened two years, two or three years ago.

It was supposed to happen during the actual... I can ask. It was supposed to be... A topic that was brought up during the actual comprehensive plan. Was that ever discussed in the comprehensive plan process?

I'm not sure. Did they talk about that? I just remember there was a public hearing. They were going to the town. There were complaints against Airbnbs. This was probably three or four years ago that town was just going to forbid them. And then people came out of the woodwork.

We learned that there was no decision.

It was decided during the board said, okay, maybe we should step back.

Yes, and it was going into the codes, so the codes update was within the comprehensive plan. Well, the comprehensive plan, so the way you affect your comprehensive plan is updating the code. So you can have this great plan, but if you don't update the codes, nobody's got to follow it.

If I recall being on the committee for the comprehensive planning committee or whatever, It was discussed, but we didn't do anything in the comprehensive plan. We pushed it to codes that there was going to be laws and codes set up.

I think the vehicle is a code rather than in the comprehensive plan. So that was, okay, now that we have this great plan, we need to update our codes so the laws come in and when development comes in, it follows what the plan is. So this whole zoning map will...

be altered a little bit you know and and we're pushing them on that we need the new zoning map you know comprehensive it was basically just to to set the future of what the town's vision is for zoning aspects and and not for codes or laws or anything to that aspect right

But to your point, no, we did stop it.

I knew that three years ago.

Yeah. Well, we... That's how it was... We all thought that this codes update was going to be completed a year ago. So you're... Yes. So... Yeah. Okay. So we're there. But we know where you got to push them.

Thank you. Who's working on, it's them and there's a codes committee?

Well, there is a codes committee that reviews some of them for the technicality. They're the people that have the, actually the planning board engineer, the zoning board, and he's an engineer, the planning board chairman. Um, along with Steve and I sit in and, you know, um, that kind of reviews it and has the discussion, but they're the Colliers is the subject matter expert. One of the problems is Katie, who is awesome. She's on maternity leave for the second time, you know, through this process. And she was really the go getter, um, doer. So, um, so that's affected us a little bit.

As long as the public's comments were taken into effect for this, then I'm all for the result. Right. That's that's right. That's what I mainly care about. I just wanted that. I wanted that because there's there's, you know, debate on both sides of the issue. Right. And not everyone's going to get what they want. I get that. I just want to make sure that it's it's representative of the people that currently live here. Right.

yeah and you'll have the airbnb i think by the next meeting it might they'll probably set the public hearing for the airbnb one and then then everybody that will probably be a very active discussion on both sides you know but there's it's go in codes committee and then they want to send it to the board for your all comments and then set the public hearing so yeah

it and the public will weigh in believe me they will weigh in it's always a hot topic yeah and as the board i mean that's a as uh supervisor just said that's a hot topic so as a board i think it'd be sooner we could get that in our hands before the meeting so we can really dig into it and read it and understand it and then we can get our questions asked because this is something that's going to be you know require a lot of thought tomorrow again i don't have them in front of me but this isn't to outright

Not allow them, right?

No, no, no. All right.

No, this is that the public to hear that, right?

You set parameters. All right. Any other discussion before we make a motion to adjourn?

I did have one more. I know we said we're going to get the, on the agenda today and it missed for the honoring of all the past elected officials in the tennis distro. So if you can get that on the agenda for our next meeting, that'd be awesome.

Just make sure you send that to.

It already, everyone has it.

Clerk.

Everyone's had it for a month.

Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll go back and dig that up and we'll put that on. Okay. Anything else we want to discuss? Do I have a motion to adjourn? Go ahead.

We are getting into September and budget talks. So I just want to let you know that when it comes to budget time that I'm available to start discussing those budgets.

As I am I, if you could pick up the phone and call me on my cell or text me. The chief has been awesome about updating us and telling us exactly what he needs and why and going line by line, calling each of us. It's much easier to understand and have less questions and it moves quicker. And it's easier to say, okay, yes, because I understand why you need that. We are not getting that from all of the departments. And I think it would be very helpful. So thank you. Sorry to butt in. I was basically agreeing with you.

Any other discussion before we close? Okay. Do I have a motion to adjourn?

Yeah.

All in favor of adjourning, say aye. Aye. Opposed, abstention. Motions adopted. 731.