Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

To order the Planning Commission Patterson Planning Commission meeting regular planning planning commission meeting of 07/24/2025, and thank you all for being here. I'd like you to rise for a pledge, and maybe, Brian, you can lead us.

Okay. Ready? Pledge?

Ready? Pledge.

To the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, under one God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. I'm a

little slow tonight. I know. On purpose. Good boy. Thank you all. Okay. I guess we are now up to the nomination and election of chairperson and vice chairperson. I wish we had our fifth member here. Is there staff? Do we know of our fifth member joining us? We will wait a minute if so. I'd rather have everybody here. All right.

We can table that item until the end.

Let's table it until the end. Would our rather whole commission present if we could. Okay. We don't have some staff to do a roll call. But who do we have here? We have got four of our five commissioners present, and we do have a quorum.

So let's maybe just go down the line here. Commissioner Lenhappen is present.

Yep. Here.

Vice chair Bendix is present. Here. Commissioner Michael Sedu is present. Present. And chairman West is present.

Present. Okay. Thank you, sir.

Okay. Thought for a second. I've been seeing them.

Thank you.

Okay.

I don't make the polls in the

paper. Alright.

You don't even give us

Last minute paperwork. We need to put a copy of this, I think, out here someplace as well. Are some conditions of approval that are connected with a hearing in Hawaii.

Oh, my goodness.

We just had not received. Thank you. Okay. We'd like to now hear from the public on anything that is not on tonight's agenda. If it's on the agenda, hold that hold that thought. If it isn't, and if it has something to do with what we do here in planning, we'd welcome anyone to come to the podium. Give us your name for the record and tell us what you're thinking. Anybody?

I was just telling my daughter not to.

Okay. Do we have any are we Zooming? Any Zoomers? Is our Zoom Zoom master around?

Apologies, Chairman. We are on Zoom, and we do have one person that looks like they'd like to speak. Francine, if you'd like to unmute yourself, you can go ahead and speak.

Okay. Go ahead. You said we have someone, right?

Francine. Francine, go ahead.

Francine is Zooming, I assume.

Okay, it doesn't look like they have anything to say.

Okay, so we're not leaving anybody out? Okay. Statement of conflict by commissioners. We have three hearings scheduled, which we may continue a couple, but do anyone have any conflict on any of those items? Commissioner? None. None. I don't either, so there's no conflicts. Okay. We do have the minutes of January 26 to review and approve. I assume everyone got those minutes and reviewed them. Does anyone have anything different that you want those minutes to say?

Move approval of the minutes.

Okay. Second. Motion and a second. Let's call the roll.

Commissioner Sadu?

Aye.

Commissioner Appland?

Aye.

Vice Chairman Bendix? Aye. Chairman West?

Aye. Okay. So ordered. Alright. First of our three public hearings is Architectural and Site Plan Review twenty four-four, and that's the West Commerce Park. And we are being told this was continued from June 26, and staff is recommending continuing this item to a future meeting. Is that what I understand? Is that correct, where we are?

Yes, that's correct. We are conducting additional traffic review to analyze some of the circulation dynamics of the proposed project. Those analyses are being prepared now. We felt it would be wise to not rush that and bring it hopefully to the next Planning Commission meeting in August.

Okay. We have to open

Mike?

Oh, we have to open up the

We will. But I'm waiting for questions for Brian here. Anybody? No. Okay. Alright. So you're you're reviewing trafficking. You're working with the developers, and everybody's cool with this. Okay. We do have to open the public hearing. It was advertised, so we will open this public hearing and we will take input tonight. And again, we will take input, of course, when we do have So I'm going to open the public hearing for now. Would anyone like to address this item at this time? Anybody? Zooming, the Zoom world? Anybody?

I see no one online at this time.

Hearing no one. Thank you, sir. Okay. Then I guess we would entertain a motion to continue this item. Is it to a future meeting or do you want a date, Brian?

It would be to the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission.

I make a motion to approve, to extend the existing, site review 2404 West Commerce Park to a to the next scheduled Planning Commission meeting.

And that would be August 14.

Good wording, man. I like that. I like that. You just extended it. You didn't start a new one. Good job. Okay. We need a second.

I'll second.

Got a second. Sadhu. Okay. Let's call the roll.

Commissioner Sadhu. Aye. Commissioner Apland. Aye. Vice Chairman Bendix. Aye. Chairman West.

Aye. Okay. Our next public hearing is the Baldwin Ranch South tentative subdivision map 02/2002. And this item is also apparently will be continued to August 14. Is that correct, right?

That's correct.

And do we need again to open the public hearing? So we will again we will be making a motion momentarily, I presume, to move this to August 15. I'm going to open the public hearing now and allow anyone to want to speak to that who would like to. Anybody? Zooming? Come on up. Come on to the mic. Just give us your name for the record and tell us what you're thinking.

How are you guys? My name is Mark O'Hanan. I'm actually if anybody has been on TikTok for the past couple weeks, I have had a couple videos go viral about the new developments. What I normally do, this is my first time attending your guys' meetings, but normally what I do is I watch your guys' lives or I watch the videos posted after the fact online. I live in the Baldwin Ranch community, and I know we're going to move this to speak about it at a later date. But currently, who is the developer for that community over there? I know Lennar. We have Land Sea Homes in that area, but do we already know who the developer is for that expansion? We got that in there.

So we have the property owner and the applicant information. They're they're technically the the current developer. They are not likely to be the ones that end up developing the property ultimately because the same developers have typically sold off what they've received approvals for to a homebuilder. So we don't know which homebuilder that would be at this time.

Okay, perfect. And then one last question, and again, part of my ignorance, this is all pretty new to me, But we we it states a 161 medium density residential lots. Do we know exactly what that looks like or what if we could define medium density?

So I'd be happy to provide you with the draft subdivision map that we have, the latest version. It's public information. And the only caveat is that between now and the meeting, there could be some very slight changes to it. But the subdivision that's been laid out for that thus far is is very far along to the point where we thought we could have it go tonight. But for other reasons, we needed to continue it.

But I'm happy to share that subdivision map with with you, with any member of the public, and you're welcome to contact me at the the planning division of the community development department. And and I have a business card handy. I probably only have a couple if

Good. Yeah.

Yeah. I'll collect it after the meeting.

Get that before you go.

Yeah. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you, Marco.

So Marco, before you go Yeah. Yes, just to review, sometimes the builders, the home builders are different than the developers.

Yes. I'm learning that now.

Yes. See a different name, and that's and that's the way it generally works.

Okay.

And they're they're both experts at what they do, and they're little different different things. The other thing is, yes, the public will see that map. Absolutely, that's a map. That subdivision map is part of this whole thing. It's very We do have very clear definitions of what medium density is, and the staff makes all those maps fit those definitions. So review those carefully, and I think you'll get the answers to what you need.

Great. Think you guys answered a lot of questions for

us Thank right now. You for currently, being

we have about 10 people in the live on TikTok right now watching us. So nobody might be in Zoom, but we have a couple other residents in the room too. So thank you guys so much. Appreciate it.

Thank you for being interested, man. This is your town. Okay. I assume you didn't tell us if you were from Patterson, but if hope so. You. Okay. All I'm going close the public hearing, and I'll see if there's someone else. Anybody else? I hope I close the other public hearing.

You did.

If not, shame on me.

Yeah. I make a motion that we continue the Baldwin Ranch South tentative subdivision map 24 dash o 2 to a meeting of the Planning Commission on August 14.

Is there a second?

Second. Thank you.

Call the roll.

Commissioner Sadhu. Aye. Commissioner Apland. Aye. Vice Chairman Bendix. Aye. Chairman West.

Aye. Okay. So ordered. Okay. We have one more public hearing and this one we actually

Will do.

Can actually do something with. The Villages Of Patterson Olive Avenue Tentative Subdivision map 02/2001. And I'll turn this over to Brian.

Thank you, Chairman West. Happy to present to you this evening our newest subdivision. This one will be occurring out in the villages of Patterson master plan area, and I've prepared a very brief PowerPoint presentation for the commission to have and review. And so, we're gonna open that up, and I'll walk you right through it. Great.

So this one is referred to as VOP Olive Avenue, tentative subdivision map, and I'll be presenting it myself this evening. The applicant is Skip Spearing. The property owner is a development company, Terra Firma Entitlement Company, and Ramos Investments Commercial Development. And the project is a new subdivision of 162 single family residential lots, medium density, that is on 36.3 acres of land. There's also going to be one remainder lot, which would entail future multifamily and commercial development.

And then finally, there would also be a significant feature that is a Central Paseo pathway along with streets and a utility infrastructure. The project site is located along the North Side Of Olive Avenue in North Patterson between Sycamore and North First Street. So on the slide, you can see the yellow arrow pointing to the midpoint of the 36 acre site. There is a PID irrigation canal that runs along the North Northwest corner of the site, sort of clips the corner off. And there's an existing single family kind of rural residential farmstead type facility along Olive Avenue near the center of the bottom portion of the development.

And as you can see on the slide, this represents a continuation of the existing residential development pattern that has been building out in North Patterson for several years now. So this is a slide that shows the planned land uses of the villages of Patterson as contained within the villages of master villages of Patterson master plan. There this goes all the way down to Walnut Avenue, and there's also a small parcel just to the south of Walnut, which I didn't feel needed to be on this particular slide. So we could stay kinda zoomed in.

Show us where we are on there.

So where we are? I'm glad you asked, because here we are. So the project site is highlighted in red, and it comprises the central quadrant of the overall development area. If I go back a slide, the circle area represents the village core area, really one of the prominent land use patterns of the master plan area. And we have a project that was approved and is under development to the Southeast.

And we have more projects coming to the Southwest of Olive and Hartley, which is basically the the two middle streets. Olive is the middle corridor that runs left to right, west to east. The central roadway in the middle of the master plan area is Hartley Street, which runs from, you know, bottom, which is south, north towards the top. And both of those streets intersect in the Red Village core area. So again, the proposed development we're considering this evening is the project site, which makes up this northwest quadrant of that village core area.

The village core area is only a small portion of the development site. The majority, the vast majority of the land area in this project site is zoned medium density residential. And but hopefully this gives you a good perspective of the scale as well as the location and proximity of the development site as a part of the greater VOP master plan area. So zooming in further into the actual project site, this is the proposed subdivision layout, and it entails the 162 single family dwellings. The remainder lot comprised the multifamily component along with the commercial component at the immediate corner of Olive And Hartley rounds out the subdivision.

We asked the developer to also show, even though it's not on their property, we also wanted to show that future development on the Northwest side of the PID Canal, which clips that upper left hand corner of the development. We wanted to see and show and illustrate that it can be developed in a manner that is cohesive with this development. This development taking the lead in the planning and subdividing of this area, and that's how it would ultimately be developed. It could change should that developer landowner to the north want to do something different. But we at least know that as part of this development, we're not locking that property into a box that they can't reasonably develop.

So that's why we're showing the northwest corner of this site being conceptually planned. Prominent feature of this subdivision is the Paseo, which is there's not a colored rendering at this point. There's been no park planning yet. It's premature for that. But the Paseo, you can see, comes off of the curve in the roadway that's leading from the central portion of the south part of the project as it heads north, it curves to the right and ends up at Hartley Street.

Well, in the middle of that curve, you can see the widened and darkened area that would be the location of the Paseo, which would measure up to 50 feet in width, consistent with the master plan. There are places where it necks down as it needs, where we come up to some street corners and so forth. But the intent of this Paseo is to enable residents that live within this community as well as neighborhoods that are under construction and to be constructed to the South, the West, the East, and the Southeast would all be able to travel through the commercial area, their multifamily residential area, northwesterly into the Paseo, and ultimately up to the northwestern corner of this entire exhibit where they could then cross English Oak Avenue, which leads to a four and a half approximate sized new park that would be developed ultimately. Of course, the Paseo heading southeast leads to other parks already built out in the subdivision area, and so it it represents a significant pedestrian friendly component of the master plan. So with that, it's important to note also that so far, each of the corners of Olive Avenue and Hartley Street, which intersect there at the bottom right corner of this image, you'll notice that is the prominent main roundabout that's called for within the VOP master plan.

This is not a standard kind of city roundabout like we see around downtown. It's it's over a 100 feet in diameter on the inside of the roadway. It'll be large enough to accommodate, passive park type uses and prominent recognizable features that add a level of distinction and prominence and visual significance to the overall village core area of VOP. As a condition of project approval, this development will begin the land planning for that roundabout. It will also dedicate their fair share portion of property that they own, which is a quarter, 25% of that future roundabout.

So this development, coupled with the development to the Southeast, are making significant strides towards making that central core piece of VOP a reality. And just as a side note, we have also received interest from developers to the immediate south of this development to develop that portion in the near future as well. They, of course, still need to go through the planning process, and there's a ways to go. But they also want to maintain the same urban village core component and design as called for in the master plan. And they would provide their portion of the future roundabout as well.

So the pieces of the roundabout are divided really into four pieces. They're coming together. They're not all available yet. They're all under private ownership still, but they're being they're they're they're being dedicated. They're being planned, and they are now on their way to becoming a reality.

It's not gonna happen overnight. There's there's our future hoops to go through, but it's fantastic to see that they're coming forward. So continuing with the presentation. Some specifics about the actual subdivision include that the lot sizes would range between 4,500 to 5,400 square feet, which we consider the typical lot sizes. And these are consistent with what's being built in that area currently.

The typical widths of those lots would range from 45 to 52 feet and be 100 feet in-depth. And then there are several of those lots that do exceed those widths and depths. And in fact, there are 25 lots that exceed the typical lot size, and those 25 lots reach up to 9,093 square feet in area. And corner lots are generally larger because they have an enhanced side yard so that we can have landscaping, And some of those have masonry walls that we want to have screened and softened with the landscaping. So those necessitate and warrant wider lot size. And the map has been designed to reflect that.

Brian, what is the size of corner lots? What number do we use?

They range from approximately, oh goodness, I don't have a zoom lens, but they are approximately 50 to 62 feet. There are some that are much larger than others, but generally, at a minimum, they're five feet wider than the standard lots.

So they're 5,000 square feet or more.

Or more, yeah. There are a couple that are I see one here that's 4,700, and it's because the immediate corners are clipped to allow for the radius of the streets. So there's one, and there may be as many as three that have that clipping. But hopefully that answers your question. To touch on some of the unique contributions that this subdivision will make to the master plan area include that the Paseo, which I touched on already, will be approximately 50 feet wide, and it will traverse through the neighborhood.

This is only one of four developments in the entire VOP area that has the obligation of constructing planning, designing, and constructing a portion of that Paseo. This is one quarter of the Paseo. The other three quarters are on three other developments. Additionally, this development is obligated to contribute to the initial design of the Olive Avenue and Hartley Street roundabout, as I also just discussed a moment ago. Additionally, this development, as a condition of approval, is required to contribute to the design and planning of the Regional Park And Storm Basin facility, which is to the east of the development.

I'm gonna go back a bit to the master plan. If you look at the screen, on the right side of the rightmost side of the screen, you see this olive green 40 acre area that is the location of the future master storm basin for this region as well as the future soccer and sports complex that will serve the entire city. Even though several developments have gone before this one, this is the development that's been charged with this very significant off-site planning and design effort. Additionally, this development will contribute to additional roadway landscape medians, which hopefully by now all of you have seen those medians that are in place along Hartley I'm sorry, along Sycamore and along the newest ones are along Olive Avenue. And this project will contribute additional landscape median roadways to further build out according to the master plan and the ambiance of the master plan that it provides.

Finally, this development is making a significant contribution towards building out the downtown and village core with commercial space. That's something that we reached consensus with the developer early on that the city considers that commercial space. Even though it's not a big area, we consider that commercial corner to be important to provide basic commercial services and opportunities that can support that immediate residential area. So they don't necessarily have to drive halfway across town to First Street or what have you. They need to get a gallon of

milk

or stick of butter. Hopefully, they can go to a market right there in that immediate area. There's no guarantee of that. But if we don't ensure that commercial spaces are actually planned for, the types of commercial services that the community and neighborhood may need won't have a chance to show up out there. Fortunately, the developer was agreeable and shared our vision, the vision of the master plan to bring some commercial to that location, to this location.

So let's talk a bit more about parks. Also, a part of the early discussions that we had with the development team when they came in. They were seeking to understand what their obligations and what components of the master plan that they would be responsible for. And we talked about the different types of infrastructure. We talked about the different types of parks and open spaces.

We talked about the different types of land uses. As far as obligations, we spent some time discussing what's coming, what's been planned for the villages of master plan in terms of parks, what's been approved thus far, and what is still on the table that needs to be brought forth. I'm going to go back again to talk a bit more about the park locations. So, again, this is the project site in red. And the green areas represent the park locations as contemplated within the master plan.

So early on in the process, we mentioned to the developer that really the only park open space component that applies to their parcel is the Paseo. Not all pieces of property out there are obligated to build up a neighborhood park. Those were preplanned and approved prior. The the project site with the Paseo provides for an opportunity to provide the open spaces and the passive recreation facilities that are called for also in the master plan. Every neighborhood in the master plan can have a pocket park, much, much smaller than a neighborhood park.

And they are important. And they add a lot to every neighborhood, and we encourage developments to bring those forward. The developer building out the Paseo is essentially the same as a series of several pocket parks in a linear form. And so as we get into ultimate stages, should this map be approved and we get into ultimate stages of detailed land planning for the public amenities, the streets, the sidewalks, and these open spaces, we will be looking for opportunities for these passive facilities, fountains, shade, park benches, gathering areas, and things like that that the master plan called for. There will be several 100 feet of opportunities for those Paseos.

The see here. Oh, finally, that covers the the the presentation of the subdivision. City staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommends to the City Council approval of this subdivision map Twenty-two Thousand 501, which consists of 162 single family lots and remainder parcels, subject to findings and conditions of approval contained within the staff report. And so I'd like to draw your attention to those at this time. The findings are a part of the staff report, and the conditions of approval were placed before you at the beginning of the meeting.

The conditions of approval are generally standard type conditions requiring fair share of construction of roadways and infrastructure, open spaces, that the project comply with standard city standards, state regulations, that they obtain their permits, their necessary storm water and water quality review and permits. They have conditions for securing, contributing towards the potential future purchase of groundwater to supplement future water sources for potable water. And there are, in all, a few pages of conditions of approval. They center around, like I said, typical standard construction methods, hours of construction, indemnification to hold the city harmless in the event of any legal challenges, and many procedures that we needed to have memorialized like we do with with most all subdivisions. With that, I am happy to answer any questions.

And additionally, the applicant is here this evening to answer questions as well. And with that, I conclude my presentation.

CHAIRMAN Thank you, Brian. Questions for our staff, Commissioner?

CHAIRMAN Yes.

CHAIRMAN You must have something.

CHAIRMAN Go ahead. Go ahead.

CHAIRMAN Let's start over here. Go ahead. Come on. CHAIRMAN

I just wanted to know, what's the street with the places comparison to Walker Ranch? I'm talking about, like, the interior street street interior streets versus, I think, believe, Pirates And Gardens. What's the street width compared? Because right now, it says 42. What's it in Walker Ranch? Do know at the top of your mind? Just kinda curious because my only There's

yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah. The I don't know the street widths for Walker Ranch. I okay. I believe that they're going to be similar.

Similar to 40.

With that said, though, in terms of the local streets that where the homes front

Mhmm.

There are some larger roadways. Of course, Olive Avenue, of course, Hartley, those are wider.

Yep.

Street G is also wider. Street G has a a much wider right of way as well. And so that's the one that, for sure, is going to be larger than the residential streets within Walker Ranch.

Sounds good. Thank you.

Yeah. You.

Yeah. Me. Okay. So it was about three hours ago. I had a conversation with John Ramos on the phone, and he is not part of this application. Ramos Investments is not part of this application. So you need you need to reach out to John.

Yeah. I'll let the applicant explain the name of the entity that was listed on the development application. I can't speak for that. The applicant can.

Alright. And the other thing is, just out of curiosity, these streets are alphabetically placed in here. Is that because we don't have names for the streets yet?

Yes, sir. That's correct. We will ask for the street names to be provided assuming and in the event that the subdivision is approved. It's actually quite a task to come up with street names.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's really tough.

And so why spend that energy

unless Oh, there's my name is Jeff. MR.

Right. There you go. All kinds of names to do that. All right. Questions?

MR. No. No more.

MR. Okay. I had a couple. And we may have to refer these over to the applicant. There was a kind of a breezeway exit up on the Southeast corner. Can you pull our map?

MR. Yes, sir.

Okay.

Up on the very far upper right hand corner, there's a little kind of breezeway getting you out of the subdivision by foot. There is not one down on the South West. Is there a reason that, a, it wasn't there? Or could one be included? Should one be included? I liked it when I saw it. I didn't see it anywhere else.

Mr. Yeah. We looked at the surrounding uses for the Southwest and did not feel that it was a necessary feature like it would be on the North Side. So that's based on well, for one, the development to the South has not been planned. It's only been conceptually presented to staff. There's no application. There's no public information available yet. But the planning that's occurred thus far is for senior housing. And that would be a it's not a park. That would be a so far, the entire development to the south, at least, is residential.

They would have I don't want to speak to the design yet because it's conceptual, and I don't want to prejudice the commission or the public yet without it even being formally submitted. And that could change. The intent is for that to be senior housing. And there's been no plans for the west side of this development to be developed yet either. But what I can do is back up a bit. The main thing is that the difference between that Southwest what? What? What? Let's back up. Oh, no. Uh-oh. What did do?

Now you did it.

Here we go.

K. Pointer. So the main difference between this corner here versus the Northwest and the Northeast is at the Northeast, we have a public park. At I'm sorry. The Northwest. At the Northeast, we have another public type facility over here. There's no park, no public facility in this location, and that was our rationale. You looked into we would have that opening.

Alright. You looked into that. Okay. Yes, I just noticed that one was there and not the other.

It's a good question.

And my other concern is with the amount of parks that are actually on this site. And I understand that this is part of a pattern in some parks, but this really needs to, on its own, be able to justify if nothing else comes around it for a while. The people who live here need to have a place to have open space. Do we know I I I can see a place where you could put a little bit more green in here And I think make this thing get closer to providing its own amount of park if you just went to the Quimby Act, for example, and talked. And when you come down, show me the circle again.

Show the next blow up one. Okay. The red circle there. Show me the subdivision map. Okay. Down there where the

I'm sorry.

You had

a map. Had a wrong button. Right there. Okay. Where the curved street comes and the one from the north comes in, Lot Number 9, right there, right below where you are, go south, right there.

If that and maybe something else were made green to open into that commercial and to give a literal more than a little narrow 40 or 50 foot wide thing, but something where somebody could actually play a game of tag or something, I'd feel a whole lot better about this site having enough green on it if there was a little more green. And that's the place that, to me, would be logical. Because it may be years before that one up north ever gets built. And a whole generation of kids could grow up and move and never have their park. So I'm I I think we need to push for parks in every subdivision, and I'm I will ask the applicants in a moment if if there's some consideration of maybe getting a little more green in this thing.

So I know you made a great effort to look into the parks for me, and I appreciate that. That's going be one of my questions, concerns a little bit here. Okay, any other questions for our staff before we get going on public?

The TRD Canal up on the top left, is that going to be underground? Or is that going to be Eventually,

it would be undergrounded when development of the property to the north where it's at is proposed and builds out. This development, we looked at that. The applicant has talked with PID. And the idea is to, of course, have the canal rerouted ultimately around the actual future corner of the urban development. This this applicant and owner do not control the property where the canal would ultimately be relocated to. And fortunately, that other property is significant enough to where it would be an easy improvement that they could absorb into their development to the Northwest.

So at this point, it's an open canal?

It's open currently, and it'll remain that way in the event this subdivision would be approved. But when that future area to the Northwest does get approved and developed eventually, it would then become undergrounded.

Okay. Good question. Thank you. Any other questions?

Yeah. Quick question.

Appreciate it.

Street H the intersection of Street H and Street B, is that supposed to be a roundabout, or is that just the way it's designed?

Street A and Street D?

Street A the intersect yeah. The Street A And D and then Street H and Street B. Are those roundabouts?

Or No. Okay. No. The only roundabout is the one at the main intersection of Hartley And Olive Avenue.

Okay. Sounds good.

Thank you. Yep.

CHAIRMAN BERNANKE. What else you got, guys? All right. We can get let's open the public hearing and hear from our applicants possibly.

STEWART:

My name is Stipster. I represent the BMC Enterprises. The application was originally made under the owners before the BMC took title.

Stay close to your mic. Here you go. Here you go. Thank you.

Sorry about that.

Cool. Thank you.

Anyway, the application was originally made before BMC actually took title to the property. So that's why it will be BMC Enterprises LLC as the applicant and the owner of the property going forward.

So that name is there now, but is erasing the Right. Reimas

It's there now. It's recorded.

Does that answer your question?

Thank thank you for that.

No. No problem.

Good. What else can you tell us about your project?

Not a lot. Brian's already done a lot. Yeah. I wanna thank Brian and and Fernando for all their work and what they do with staff to come up with the conditions. All 150

There's 42 of them.

43 of them.

Yeah. 44.

I'm getting too old to read all those things, but that's all right.

Okay. And I have to ask every applicant if they understand those conditions and agree to them because you're subject to them.

I fully understand that, and yes, we do agree to them.

There are lot

of them. We've talked quite a bit with Brian and Fernando about those conditions. The key thing that I think Brian brought up is the off-site park. And I understand your concern of timing, which because this is no longer one developer in this huge project, it's going to take time to bring it together. And if you look at the smaller lots where the sale goes through, you're going to see one area that is green, right next to the one you were talking about online.

Yeah, I saw that one, that one lot right there, nine, ten or whatever it is.

What I will say that we will try to do is expand that to a slightly wider situation to where it could be more useful. But that is probably the best place in the whole subdivision for any private park area. Oh, yes. As you said.

And that lot right next to it, if it were added to that, would just open that whole residential onto your second part of that and give you a big enough area for somebody to go have a picnic or whatever people do, would you would you would you have a problem with just including that one more lot in there?

Probably not. I probably wouldn't have a problem with that. You Yes. I think we can do that. Biggest thing That right now

would, for your time period until you build it out, that would really give people a nice little green shot and then an entry to something. And it would make this, think, a little nicer.

The radius is going to change possibly with that corner coming around there. And so we have a site distance, as you saw in the conditions. Some of them were marked in red.

That

does affect the salability of the units. So that we should be able to figure out something to

Something in there.

Make that much wider and more useful.

If you could. And I think that would be a real nice blessing. You do have a weird corner there, and you're having to deal with a weird corner and then something coming in from another angle. And bless you for dealing with it.

Well, it's something we do have to deal with.

But when

we were working with the elements of the master plan where the core was supposed to be higher density, that's where these smaller lots started. And then, of course, the apartments, multifamily in the middle there, that'll be where the below market and everything else is. So we're trying to think ahead and have worked out with Brian on how we can accomplish that.

Well, little area is gonna be a challenge and it'll be a chance to really make something very cool. It'll be a challenge because you got some weird angles and weird weird parcels there, but I think that could be a really nice beginning for that circle. So I'm glad we're getting into this, taking a bite out of this circle.

Chairman, there's a couple of things I think are helpful for me to elaborate on since we're talking about that location. One is the applicant just touched on the fact that they will need to ultimately should the subdivision be approved. The on the inside curve of street, staff was concerned about visibility

Yeah.

And what to do about, you know, cars backing out, children playing out there. The street does meet the minimum radius requirements according to our roadway street standards. But I felt that we needed to go a bit further beyond that to ensure as much safety as we could. And so we settled with creating a condition of approval that the applicant has agreed to, which requires that the front yards of lots seven through twelve be red curbed. So they're not gonna be able to park on the street in that location.

And the reason is if there were cars there, it's you know, as as cars are traveling north, it's gonna be hard to see around Yeah. The edge as we all know. Coming from the other direction, the opposite direction, it's easy. It's it's a blessing. There's there's extra visibility. But coming from the south and heading north and then ultimately to the east, you just can't kinda see what's around the corner. And to have cars in the street on the side of the curb also, that's too much. So we said, nope. Let's red curb it. Let's condition that so that there's no parking so we can ensure the maximum visibility coupled with the front yards that we can provide.

And so that was part of the rationale. And the last thing I'll say on this topic is that, ultimately, when plans come in for the multifamily component, there will be an opportunity to piggyback some of their open space adjacent to this open space in here. And so we can grow that even further. It's a good spot because the multifamily is a lot more people as well. And to have a place within the heart of this neighborhood to recreate would be a positive thing.

Good. What else do you have to add to it? Any I'm good.

You are.

And commissioners, is there any questions for our applicant while we got him still?

Yeah. I had a question on the multifamily residential and commercial. Are you planning to put any sort of electric vehicle charging infrastructure?

Put in what?

Electric vehicle charging infrastructure for, like, Teslas and, you know, all electric vehicles.

They're pretty common everywhere you go. Yes, that eventually will be in there. Okay. Thanks. I can't imagine it wouldn't. So, let's assume that there will be.

All right. Other questions for our applicant? No. Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Appreciate your time. Yep. Okay. Who else would like to speak to this? Come to the mic or come on up.

Hey, guys again. So one of my, so if I'm not mistaken, if we went up up more, what would you say, east from Olive Avenue, then we start hitting those KB homes right there as well. Right? This one is a little bit more towards the railroad track if we look at the master plan?

That's right. So the KB would be back this direction.

Correct. Correct. Yeah. And so I mean, 100% support the adding or expanding the park area because even in the most recent KB development I think it might be Sycamore II or Acacia II development by KB Homes there's not even a park in that area, too. That is taking over one of the corners of the developments or part of the master plan as well. And then, you know, in reality, when we look at the master plan, I believe you said 40 acre sports complex, that's a ways away. I can't imagine that's going to get started anytime soon either. Won't be shooting a video about that one. There's snakes out there and things. But as far as going west on Olive Avenue, is that road I haven't been out there in some time.

And when I mean it some time, it may be a month or so. Has that road been repaired? That road is narrowly it's very narrow and narrowly it's barely a road, to be honest.

You're about First

Street? He's referring to all of

the All of that eventually goes into Ivy, with 33 dividing it.

So Olive Avenue is getting rebuilt as these new subdivisions come along.

Okay.

So with this subdivision, they will be improving their portion of Olive Avenue, and they will be extending landscape median along Olive Avenue. And then additionally, as the future developments west of this build out, they too well, and to the east on this side, the north side. They too will build it out.

So

other than that, the repairs have been limited to just repairing potholes.

Yeah. Yeah. It's much more than potholes. I would just ask, your guys' support, that any developer in that area contribute to developing that area all the way down to 33. I could only imagine the commuters coming from the Bay Area or out that way are normally going to take forgive me what the I think it's Frank Cox Road to end up eventually coming over here.

The most ideal would then to be to turn on to Olive Avenue right over the railroad tracks. I can only imagine if we don't expand that, just the increased accidents that are going to happen in that area, especially since there's no lights, there's maybe a stop sign, you know? So just something to keep in mind for future thoughts, because right now, even with this community here and the communities that are there and that are gonna be developing, super condensed, especially with this multifamily development as well. Those are just my 2¢ right there. That's about it.

And Marco, for the record, Anne, give us your name again for the record.

I'm sorry, Marco, Marco Almada. Okay, thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.

Who else would like to speak to this? Okay, Zoomers, it's your turn.

Anyone online would like to speak

Anyone can raise your hand.

Who would like to address this? Now is your big moment.

I see nobody with their hand up.

Hearing none, does anyone else have anything to add to this discussion? If not, I will close the public hearing, and we can take this under consideration. Gentlemen, what's your pleasure?

There are seven findings and unwritten 44 conditions and additional four conditions from other responsible agencies. I'm not sure how we can deal with that.

That's a good question, Brian. Are those recommendations or are those conditions?

Those are conditions. So the comment letters are many things are just comments for the applicant developer to be aware of, and there are some specific items that the developer will need to achieve as well. We we get out of that. We say, thank you, agency. Developer, here are their comments. Make sure you address their comments. And in so doing, we can continue moving your development along in the event it's approved.

But aren't most of those addressed in your conditions?

No. No. These are a different this is a different layer of

Developer, read carefully. Read everything they give you. Okay.

Move approval of tentative subdivision map 20 with seven findings and 144 conditions and then additional for conditions from other responsible agencies. Does that address it?

That's good. Yep. All right.

That works out good.

Yeah. Okay. I need a second. Thank you.

All right. Motion and a second. The Commissioner hard, No. Alright. Let's

go Sadhu. Aye. Commissioner Appland. Aye. Vice chairman Bendix. Aye. Chairman West.

Aye. Okay. Thank you.

This item will now move to the city council. I think it's going to be tentatively scheduled for August 19.

Good luck with that. Get your take a bite out of that circle, Matt. Okay. Do we have any items from staff that need to be brought up?

No other items at this time.

Have postponed the nomination. Nomination of chairperson

Thank you for reminding me. See, that's why you need to find a new guy.

I think when someone doesn't show up, they usually get nominated for chair, isn't that?

That's usually what happens. Well, we were waiting for our fifth. We never got our fifth. I will then go back to the third item on our agenda, and I'm sorry, guys, to hold you out here. I will now open nominations for chairman of this commission for this year, whatever time period we're in.

Two years, I guess. Two year commitment. No.

We're going year at a time, boys.

Okay. I nominate Mr. West for chairman.

All right. Other nominations?

Nobody else is nominated.

Everybody ducks under the table. All right. And then we'll close the nominations, and we will call for a vote.

Is that it?

All in yeah. Okay. Go ahead and call if we read it the way you normally do.

Commissioner Sadhu? Aye. Commissioner Applin? Aye. Vice chairman Bendix? Aye. Chairman West?

Aye. You guys trust me. All right. We also need a vice chairman. And I will open the nominations for a vice chairman.

Nominate Chairman Bendix.

I like that idea. And I will also take other nominations. No. Nothing? All right. We have one nomination. Let's go ahead and vote on it.

Commissioner Sadhu? Aye. Commissioner Apland? Commission Chairman West? Aye. Vice Chairman Bendix?

Aye. You Okay. For reminding So ordered. We now are back in order, and we're back to business. And it looks like we have a big meeting coming up next. A lot happening. Good job, you guys. Patterson is on the move. We're doing the right things. I think we're doing it the way we need to. A little mistake or two along the way, but we're on track. Thank you all. I'm going to adjourn this meeting.