Board of Zoning Appeals - Regular Meeting

to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call, please. Patrick, here. Thomas, here. Cynthia Hasso here Hill here present. We have a quorum.

A we have a request from the staff to table the minutes of October 28th 2025 December 2nd 2025 and January 27th 2026 until the March 31st meeting. Do we have a motion? I have a motion. Second. We have a motion, a second. Roll call vote, please. Yes. Thomas, yes. Yes. Yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays. Motion pass.

We'll move into old business Z-26-03. Petition of Ray Dream Kaza, Inc. for a developmental variance regarding title section 330 for a to allow a reduction in the minimum width and lot area requirement to build a single family home located at 2461 New York Avenue in R1U urban single family residential district in the city of Hammond Lake County, Indiana. Have all requirements been met? Yes, they have. We have a petitioner here. Hello.

We have someone. Hello. Would you like to state your name and sign in, please? Uh, Lupe Ambrose here. Do I sign it over here?

Over there. Then we'll have you state your name and address.

Uh my personal address or the one that I'm petitioning. Um what's the preference? I have your corporate address is fine. Okay. Okay. Uh, Reyes Dreamcas, Inc. and 1313 165th Street, Hammond, Indiana 46320. Okay, you need to state your name for the record. Oh, Lupe Ambrosio. Okay. Okay. I I'm sorry. I'm talking really fast. It's a little a little hard to hear sometimes over here. Okay. Sorry. Would you like to tell us what you plan on doing?

Yes. So, um we're planning to build a single family one-story home. We're asking um for um our deficient lot that is 37t 6 in. I know the regular um the standard is 40. Um we are asking um to be able to reduce the size in order to build this home. Um, there are about, let me see, there's 23 parcels that are already near this one that are also deficient. And I feel like they would just, you know, it would fit right in with the rest of them. This house is a three-bedroom, two bath with a crawl space. Um, we already built this home in another part of Hammond. It's on 244 Condent Street. Um, this one would have a raised crawl space so that it can look similar to the houses nearby. Um, trying to think what else. I know the minimum lot area is 4,800 ft. This one would be 4,687 square feet. So, it's not far off. You guys have any questions? Anyone have questions?

I don't. All right. Staff members have any comments they would like to make at this time? Okay. Um, so in uh your site plan, you looked at the front yard setback? Yes. And um what I'm seeing here in the report is it's 17 ft. Um and that is somewhat similar to the adjacent houses. Is that correct? Yes, it's similar to the adjacent houses and we would also build a parking pad instead of a um garage because that's what the adjacent houses have as well. Okay. Um and I and the pad on the alley, correct? Yes. So, no driveway.

No garage and no driveway. No. Yep. Okay. And then um as far as the design, I know you said that you uh are doing the same design as you did on Condid Street. And then you looked at the um adjacent houses on New York Avenue and um um you looked at trying to be somewhat compatible with those. Yeah. I want them to be cousins, not sisters, but you know, not be an eyesore an eyesore to the street. It's an A-frame side um home, roof home um which some of those are adjacent there um on that block.

And then um there there's a Have you had discussions with the adjacent neighbor regarding the encroachment of the gravel on the property? Yes, I've already uh spoken to them. Um they said that they had also put a bid in for the lot. We had bid them, but uh they're looking forward to us building the home. Okay. And are they going to remove the gravel? Um they said once we were ready to break ground that we could touch base again and see if we were going to remove it or if he was going to remove it before we broke ground. We just didn't know when we were going to break ground because we knew we had to come to right this meeting. Do you know if the gravel is on the same side as where you're going to put the parking pad?

I believe not. I believe it's on the other side. Okay. Yeah. The gravel would be it's closer to their fence. So, no, it would be on the other side. Okay.

All right. Members have any questions at this time? I don't. Okay. We will move to public expression. Anyone in the public like to speak in regard to Z-2603? Anyone in the public? Anyone online? Mr. Novak, do we have anyone online?

Yeah, you know, I see a Samsung phone. If if you want to speak, I believe it's star six on your phone to unmute or else press the um little microphone button that should be in the bottom left or or top left corner. But yeah, if you want to speak, you have to unmute.

No, I don't want to speak. Okay. did not want to speak on this one. Okay. Anyone else in the public? Anyone else in the public? Hearing none, we will close this period of public comments or expressions. Um, board members have any comments at this time? I don't. Okay. Hearing none, we will move to the staff report. Mr. app. Are you getting it tonight?

Yeah, there was a four-page staff report submitted. I'll read the recommendation. Staff has reviewed the petitioner's request to recommends that the BCA grant the developmental variance should the board feel the petitioner has met the standard subject to the following uh two conditions. One, technical review and final approval of all final building and site plans by city staff. Two, inclusion of an elevated crawl space or basement. So, finished floor grade elevated. Um then follows a one-page proposed findings effect. Okay. You wanted to still make number two in there since she mentioned the crawl space. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we'll leave it in there just uh make sure it's official. Okay. You're checking that out.

We We trust her though. Okay. We also have proposed findings of FAP. Any comments, questions, additions, deletions? I don't.

Okay. Hearing none. Do we have a motion to accept the staff report and the findings of fact into the record? I'll make the motion to accept the standards and condition and the staff report as findings of effect. All right, I'll second. We have a motion, a second. Could we have a roll call vote? I'm sorry, did you say with the conditions? Yeah. Yes. Okay, also we have a motion and second. Could we have a roll call vote? Cynthia Hassel, yes. Faulner, yes. Roger,

yes. Thomas Casmier, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass. Hey, do we have a motion in regard to the developmental variance for Z-2603? Motion to approve.

Okay, I'll second. We have a motion and a second. Roll call vote. Cynthia Hassel. Yes. Dan Faulner. Yes. Roger. Yes. Thomas, yes. Yes. Five eyes. Zensions motion pass. Okay, good luck. Thank you. Appreciate you guys.

All right, the next item on the agenda is Z-2604 for old business. And we have a request from the petitioner to table Z-26-04. Do we have such a motion? Wait, could you just confirm for the record that you're requesting the case to be tabled? Yes. U Lupe Ambrosio, um 131365th Street, Hammond, Indiana, 46320. And we're requesting to table it for 90 days. Okay. Okay. For for 90 days. 90 days. Okay. Right.

And then know if you're ready at that time, maybe even we can also do the Wallace Road. Yes. Okay. Do we have a motion? corrective motion for this as far as a 90day extension. I'll make a motion table for the 90day Okay, we have a second. Second 26. Oh my gosh, you skipped over. We do it. Okay. The May 26th meeting. that might have is that the one we might make a correction to. Okay.

Though we will notify her if that is. Yes, we were we raised a subject at the last meeting that we were going to staff was requesting that that meeting be changed, the date of that meeting be changed. So we have not made that decision as to when it's being changed, but that will be done in March. We can do it now. At the end of the we get through the cases, we can discuss it now. because we had decided at that time when we was going to make the decision we were wait until March to make that decision. I that's fine. You can do it now. We I think everybody not literally now but at tonight's meeting

you can make that decision. So we can then advise the the petitioner um so she could plan for it. I mean I think that would be prudent at this point in time since she's asked for a 90-day tableling. Could we just call her so she doesn't have I'll be I'll be here. I'll be in and out or No, we we'll let you know. Yeah. I mean, okay. No, that's Yeah, because the question was, you know, it's Memorial Day, so do we want to have it the day after Memorial Day or do we want to have it a week later or, you know? Yeah, we're more than likely it's going to be this staff request is going to be for the week, the Tuesday, first Tuesday of June. Okay. But that's for later discussion.

Yeah. I would also just like to clarify that I made a motion My motion was to Okay, I accidentally read we are tableabling 04. Correct. You read the new business. Okay. All right. Just wanted to thank you. So, okay. Noted for the record. Clarification. And do we have a second to that clarification? Second. We have a second to the clarification. So, we have a roll call vote in regard to Z-26-04. Cynthia, yes. Dan Faulner, yes. Roger. Yes.

Thomas, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. 5 motion pass. All right. Thank you.

Okay. Thanks. We will move to new business. And for new business, we have Z-25-22 Corin A petition of a storage dev Hammond LLC for approval of a conditional use regarding title section 11.10 10 PNS 2 boat storage/d dry dock facility and title section 11.11 PN 2 any use similar to permitted uses and title section 11.10 10 for recreational vehicle Penins RV storage facility at 3518 Sheffield Avenue in I1 I1 like Industrial District in the city of Hammond Lake County, Indiana. And we will also have the same present able to have the presentation for Z-25-22 PMs B petition of a storage dev Hammond LLC for approval of a developmental variance regarding title section 11.31 PN B pens one for a reduction of a side yard setback from 10 ft to 26 ft for a canopy covered recreational vehicle or Barn's RV parking area at 3518 Sheffield Avenue in a I1 light industrial district in the city of Hammond Lake County, Indiana. also presented G-25-22 PNC petition of storage dev Hammond LLC for approval of a developmental variance

regarding title section 11.40 40 for a reduction of the 13th Street yard front yard jar setback from 40 ft to 38.33 ft for a canopy covered recreational vehicle Prince's RV parking area at 3518 Sheffield Avenue in I1 light industrial district in the city of Hammond Lake County, Indiana. We will allow the petitioner to present information on all three and they will be voted on separately. Okay. Would you like to sign in and tell us who you are? Excellent. Yes.

Did you I'm sorry. Did you ask the staff for notifications? Oh, there notifications in for all three of these. Yes, I have. Thank you. Sorry for the in

Oh, no. Certainly. Uh good evening. Uh Scott Yani appearing on behalf of Storage Deeb Hammond LLC. Thank you for uh the time this evening. Um as you heard there are three petitions right now and I'm sorry to say also happy to say that we have five more that come behind but we're going to do these in two tranches. I'm going to try to keep it moving. So if you need me to move along or slow down, hand gestures are welcome. Um I have with me tonight Amit meet Patel and so this is Amit's project uh and I see Mr. Kowinsky has joined us and he's very familiar with the project as well. Just to give you an idea uh we're before you folks for the first time tonight uh but in July uh we were before redevelopment commission uh and had a submission of meets project at that time. Uh we passed that hurdle and then we were before the plan commission uh and that was in October and uh at that time we had to get the ground ready so to speak and had a subdivision that was approved um putting this all uh on a single lot and uh and we also addressed a zoning issue at that time uh changing a zoning designation. So, there's a lot of work that has gone into getting us to this point. This is a big project that AMET uh is proposing to you this evening. Uh it's gone through a lot of scrutiny. I I'll say we're on 21 acres and as you saw heard from one of the uh petitions, we're looking to what was that reduction from uh 40 feet to 38.33 feet. So there's been a lot of engineering, I'll say, to kind of refine the points here, but I think we're at a point now, uh, where if you all decide that, um, that these that this

conditional use and these developmental variants are, uh, pass your scrutiny, uh, that this project can now, uh, begin to take forward. So without further ado, uh, this is at 3518 Sheffield Avenue. Uh this is in north planning district 2 uh and is now designated as an I-1 light industrial district. We did have a C4 lot at one point, but that has now been all all changed so that it were all in I1 um after the uh plan commission approved and uh thereafter the city council. um if you're somewhat familiar with that area. So, um I referenced Sheffield Avenue, our cross street is 136th Street on the South border. Um and then also there is on our um kind of a on our I'll call it northern border is the Indiana Harbor Belt Railroad. There are tracks that run across there and then and I call that's kind of north and west and then to the what I'll call maybe the north and east uh the the um I guess it's the United States owns a boundary road where they gave gain access to a property uh to the west. Um, as I mentioned, this was a project approved by uh Hammond Redevelopment Commission last year. And one of those approval uh uh conditions uh is one of the matters you'll consider later tonight, and that's building material, but I'll let you know that that was considered at that time. What AMET would like to do is a project that will encompass boat and RV storage. Um, we'll also have a climate control storage, but that's going to be kind of

the second part of our presentation. But this is all on this 21 acres. This is a a big project, if you will, and kind of confining us to the boat and RV storage component. Um, this is going to be where boats and RVs can be uh protected from the elements. And one of the ways that they'll gain that protection is through canopies that are solar collectors. So there will be solar collector panel roofs um where where these vehicles can park and uh and uh they can store these vehicles and and the boats in those locations. Um and then there'll be an active uh solar generator as well. Uh the facility will also offer amenities such as uh clean and wash out bay, dump station, a very nice lounge for uh families to gather. It's kind of a in between space while people are attending to their RVs, getting them washed, getting them prepared, uh packed, etc. Uh and then there will also be an open recreational area and a dog park. This entire facility is designed to be very familyfriendly. uh where people will bring their boats or RVs and they will store them there and then pick them up before trips and then return them oftent times. Um also the project and this is kind of the second part it will have a threetory climate controlled uh storage facility. Uh the canopy parking will uh give room for 311 parking stalls for the RVs. There will be enclosed storage for the RVs and boats. The wash bay I mentioned the dump station. Um and then of course a big

part of this is a solar panel canopies. um that is resulting is requiring a big investment from AMIT. But this is a pretty interesting project and I think uh if you see as we go through some of the renderings and elevations uh that this is really well uh designed and I think uh and you'll like how this reflects upon the community moving forward. Uh this is a significant investment. Uh it's about a $20 million project. Uh if we go forward, this will uh lead to our estimate of about a 100 construction jobs associated with development. Uh and then there will be full and part-time jobs associated uh with this business uh moving forward. Uh we think that uh that the addition will help elevate the tax base. This is going to be a a considerable improvement. this land um it has been basically I I looked at maps going back to the 30s because we had to look at a lot of aspects of uh of this property what what might be done and that's about the first that you start to see the satellite image maps and there's been no development on this property except for at some point there was some sort of weather slag was was dumped there um but um the the property itself has been unusable because largely due to its environmental condition. So that kind of gets us to a next next step um is this has been en environmentally distressed property. However, for this use and what we have contemplated uh it meets all the parameters and I will tell you that Mr. Novak was very actively engaged uh in obtaining uh test results. Uh we've had a full battery of

tests uh conducted on this site. Um there were things you know that's it's it's an area that has attracted some attention for the wrong reasons over the years. Um but they have to the satisfaction of all after significant lab tests uh that Ron and his staff have reviewed uh we have determined that this in fact is safe to move forward and that is the report of the experts that have been engaged and uh Mr. Novak, as you'll see in the staff report, supports those findings. And I do know that uh one when I spoke to way back at the very beginning, I spoke to soon after a meet came to me, that's where we started with was started with was Mr. Novak because we knew that was our first our first uh kind of barrier we had to figure out if we could pass and how what kind of testing and a lot of consideration was given uh to what kind of testing and uh in Ron's particular knowledge you know the first set of bids I think told us that we could go get samples by doing uh you know putting a shovel in the ground and Ron said yeah sure if you want to break your shovel because you're going to need, you know, this to get through that slag that's out there. And so, he's been very involved in this project. And I know from speaking to Ron at the very outset, he wanted to make sure that Mr. Cowinsky was uh fully briefed uh going forward. Uh and he assured me that he would uh keep him updated as well. And I know that me talked to Mr. Kowinsky throughout because this is important to the surrounding community. Um the request that we have first is for the conditional use. Um and that relates to the RV storage. Um we don't have a particular item um in

our in our list of unit uses under I-1 and section 11 uh.10 and 11.11. But we have in 11.112 it permits approval for any use similar to permitted uses in 11.10 and um you know through Mr. Poland and Mr. Novak Tom kind of helping us work through this uh determined that our proposed use for the RV and boat storage is at least similar to boat storage in a dry dock facility. It's not precisely the same, but it's shares attributes. And so our petition before you this evening is for a conditional use permit um under under that uh designation. Um so whenever we have a conditional use uh request, I've got to show you establish a set of criteria. I'm not going to belabor this too much. I'll just kind of go through them at a high level. If you have specific questions, we can address them. But I need to show you that it's not going to be injurious to the public health, safety, morals, and general welfare of the community. I can tell you that little of that has come out in the presentation thus far. Um that um this has been a fully vetted project and we've presented a lot of aspects of this. I will also point out that uh a meat is a uh um is familiar with um a safe and successful operation of a business of this nature. Not quite this because this has got some variables to it but of a similar business and is uh uh and is going to be very adherent. His customers are going to be subject to a uh well-defined safety regimen. Uh access to this site is very controlled uh at a number of points through gates

uh that close and can only be accessed uh in a certain manner. These buildings cannot be accessed except by uh codes and keypads. Uh these gates it's got an interesting gate system of how it will close. But this is designed to be a secure facility. Uh it's going to be fully fenced um and it's got valuable property on there that he needs to protect. Also in line with this we are going to have storage right so but there's going to be a set of conditions um that we will be required to uh record a covenant as part of this process about certain things that we can't store there for example environmentally challenging or flammable um uh material of a certain nature of a certain size and there will be a condition and it's similar to the sorts of covenants that we filed in the past for storage type uses Um we have to also show that the surrounding area will not be affected in a substantially adverse manner. Um through this process I've had uh discussion with our uh there is a gas station there. It's a Luke uh gas station. I've talked to their folks because they were real interested about what's going to happen and and they're very excited by this project. It's going to bring a lot of uh lot of improvement to the area. And when you see the uh material that uh that AMET intends to use, how this is going to be laid out, we're going to be retaining a lot of water that we need to for um um just by the army core requirements and other um uh detention and retention. This is going to be a very it's going to be an very aesthetically pleasing project and it's going to bring uh some life to an area of the community that hasn't experienced before other than people throwing stuff on that uh that we don't want littering the ground. Um so we're

going to bring a uh kind of a dormant area uh into uh into a vi kind of introduce some vitality but also the use that meet is uh proposing here although there is storage of vehicles and boats and such he has relatively few visitors every day. So we're not this is not a use that overburdens uh the roads with traffic. Um, I know he'd given me the numbers and he'll be able to cite them for you if you'd like more detail on any of this, but it's not a highintensive use. These are relatively few visits. They come at relatively spread out. Um, and it's not the sort of thing that's going to overburden the surrounding community or be a nuisance to neighbors and doesn't produce noise. There's all uh types of things that uh that we might worry about about a retail or some other commercial activity that really won't be present uh with what he proposes because these vehicles or boats are stored for lengthy periods. Um we are not going to adversely affect the um density of the adjacent area either in the this type of use. This is relatively unmet use or some Mr. Novak was very detailed in his examination finding all the places where boats were stored and so forth. They're relatively few and and not of this type or nature. Um we are addressing we're not being uh environmentally harmful. In fact, we're helping a a land that has been distressed over a period of time. Uh we're not going to adversely impact any historic or architectural resources. Uh we do comply with the amended North Hammond redevelopment plan. Um and we had a specific um you know finding by

the uh redevelopment commission that we do meet and in fact um we really uh further the goals of the plan for this area. Um we are not going to other than the uh the matters we're going to ask you about tonight on developmental variances. we're otherwise in compliance with the zoning ordinance. Uh and this is not a residential development, so we're not subject to criteria number nine. So, those are the criteria for a conditional use uh request. We think we meet all of those and then some, but we'll be happy to answer any questions. Um I'm going to at least just briefly mention the two development uh developmental variances that are companions. uh that is that we have a sideyard that is a sideyard requirement is 10 ft. We're asking for 2.16 feet and then you think oh boy that's kind of close to the sideyard isn't it? These are for our canopies that are what is it 11 feet in the air give or take? 14 14 I'm sorry about 14 ft in the air and in the area of the gas station but where it is it's a you know it it doesn't intrude at all on their space um and I think when you see drawings on the site plan uh you'll see that this is not problematic and they have not had any issue with this as well uh where it's laid out uh and then also on 136th Street um we are closer than the 40 foot setback line. We are at 38.33 ft. And that was just looking at the parameters of the property. We had to get that extra just due to the layout uh with the neighboring gas station and uh allowing for water detention and fencing. We just

had to shave it by a little bit in that area. Um I'll go over the criteria a little bit more for the other when we get to developmental variances and uh spoken a lot on these first three petitions. Uh so unless there are any questions I think I'll uh turn it over from here. Board members have any? I don't I have a question. Uh one of the amenities with a dump station. Do you care to elaborate exactly what that is and it's Sure. Amid, can you maybe speak to some of these and you might be good when we're talking operation. Speaker, could you sign in and state your name and address, please?

I'll make sure he does before he goes. How about that? Let him talk. We like to know who he is. Patel uh 12821 Division Street and that's Blue Island, Illinois 60406. Um the dump station is essentially used to um take out the sewage from the RVs and the boats. Uh they can be a pipe connection where they connect the underground tank that would hold it and then we would have a septic company come out uh depending on the depending on the level to uh to take it out.

Okay. Um I have a question. You had mentioned as far as the environmental testing in a couple places you put that they will cap any existing contamination and prevent further mitigation of contaminants. What do you mean by how you cap that if you find anything or discover anything?

So one of the ways you and I meet you'll certainly add to this. One of the ways you cap is add um whether it be paving, whether it be building, but you're preventing human interaction essentially with the ground. For example, this property could not be used for residential development just due to the nature of the soil. Um the capping refers to um protections so that um that you don't come into contact with the soil at least where the humans will be. It's like as far as in buildings where you have asbestos then you put the tile on it or something like that to prevent it from entering the environment. It

it's more of an example of leadbased paint where you put a is it the elastic mic coating on leadbased paint that that encapsulates it and so therefore it's not fryable and did not it's really more of an example. It's more and so it's also the cap is also related to the fact that uh prevents groundwater from seeping through the the crevices in the slag which I don't know how many crevices there are in slag but but seeping through that and then taking the um chemicals into the water table and then into the wetlands and all that kind of stuff. So, it's a way of of capping a hat, a shield, a barrier that that deals with all sorts of things. So, so it does not affect that soil in any way.

Any other questions? No. Staff have any comments? Yeah. Okay. So, um I think you alluded to it um Mr. any that the um it's came out of the resoning is that there is the commitment document that is uh limiting the number of I1 uses that were be available to this property and um you know so obviously we haven't gotten that taken care of and approved of at that stage. So we um are attaching that into part of this approval that that is addressed.

You are correct. Yes. and we've agreed and we stipulate that that uh will be a condition of any approval and that we will then work on the finetuning of that document.

Yeah. And for the board's edification that's there's two separate commitment or slashcovenant documents. One specific to the reasonzoning that I just referred to and the other one that we'll discuss later when we get to the self- storage side of it. That's one dealing with what can be stored in the self- storage building or what can't be stored in the self- storage building. So just understand there's two documents that are rel relative to this case. Um and then I getting back to the sideyard. This is just for clarity. Um it the reduction is down to 2.16 feet. Is that I'm trying to remember is that the edge of the canopy in essence? Yes.

To the in the air transfer to the ground. It's from the edge of the canopy to get to the 2.16. Yeah. I didn't describe that very well when I was but the ground will be the regular or will affect no no just just it it just pretend that the canopy is sitting on the ground. Okay. And therefore the edge of the canopy is 2.16 feet from the property. It's just that it's an aerial situation because you want to park a vehicle. the edge of the canopy then in essence becomes that's where the edge of the vehicle can be parked

and the the change in the dimensions is due to the size of the canopy to cover the RVs or both. I would answer your question that typically if you would have a building it would be 10 feet back and so therefore even though you have a camp canopy that has no walls you treat it as if it was building and that normally would be a 10 foot back. So now we're saying it could be at 2.16. Okay.

So you could park for example a vehicle right? you wouldn't be intruding on a setback line, but because as Brian indicated, you draw a line down as though a building existed, that's the purpose for the setback here. And these canopies at this place position in the in the site are basically for RVs or they also include the boat. RVs, right? Yeah. Yes. Where are the boats in the section? The you mean underneath the canopy or No, we're because basically you're requesting the Bose be stored there also. Correct. Correct.

Okay. Are they on this? Are they with this group that we're talking about A, B, and C are underneath the canopies? No. Where on the property? Are you asking whether you segregate where boats or because basically there's not much mention of boats in the report? I guess she's asking do you segregate the boats and RVs or are the boats going to be allowed to park in this area as well? They could be they could be allowed to park in the same. Okay. So you allow integration between boats and RVs. Yes. They live happily together. Maybe the RVs are pulling the boat. Right. So there's no

Okay. Well, you the staff report had very little mention of boat though. I was just wondering. I know. Well, because recreational vehicle technically, right, can count. Yeah. Can count as a boat. Okay.

And my last question for clarity is that you know going back to this concept of the cap being on the property and that you there are detention basins. So you are capturing the water surface water in the detention basins and therefore and those detention basins are adjacent to the wetlands and I'm trying to remember if there is um will the water from the detention basins go into the wetlands. I think the overflow does

the over I I I'm trying to remember what it was because I just want everybody to understand that when you have any type of detention flowing into a wetland, you're going to have to clean the water. You're going to have to have all of the solids and oils separated out. So, as long as that is part of the the plans, and I believe they are, um I just want that noted for the record that um the Clean Water Act protections are going to be in place. Okay. Did you want to make that a condition or anything? I I don't think it's necessary to be added to condition. I just want it noted as the record in the minutes.

And I don't know that we if you look at my called it on the letter, the supporting letter that I had on page 16. Not that you need to dig it out right now, but there is an illustration of this 2.16 ft with an overlay of the gas station. So, you can see that it's they don't have building near there. There's they've kind of got their own setback and some parking and it's about 80 feet. Yeah. From the gas station. Yeah. They're not putting this in vicinity to their building, I guess, is what I'm trying to point out here. Okay. But if you look on page 16, you can see the aerial get an idea.

Staff has no further questions or comments. Thank you, Mr. Y. Okay. Thank you. Took a while. All right. No questions. We will open this period

for Z-25-22 paren A for the rec conditional use for the recre recreational vehicle storage facility and Z-25-22 rings B for the developmental variance for the sideyard setback under 10 ft to the I1 area and Z25-22 parc developmental variance regard to parking lot setback under 40 ft in I1 area. Okay. So for all three of these cases.

Okay. Your opening public comment. Public comment. Okay. That's why we're reading all three of them at the same time. All right. Anyone in the public? Anyone online? Anyone here to come forward for this period of public comment? Anyone for public comment? Oh, we see one. Would you like to come forward? I almost closed. Good evening. State your name and address, please. Councilman Mark Kellwinsky Johnson Avenue Hammond Indiana I'm sorry Hammond Indiana

yes okay just checking

as you're deliberating today uh over my 22 years in office a number of projects have been proposed for that acreage this is by far the most uh appealing of all the projects that have come forward. A number of things that uh I consider when uh looking at these projects is one the flow of traffic, number of vehicles coming. Uh, Boy Scout Road, 136th Street, uh, has about 6,000 cars per 24-h hour period that comes through from Indiana to Illinois and then back again. And I'm clear that boats come into the water in early summer, they come back to the facility, most of them, to have uh, storage in the fall. I don't see a lot of issues with traffic because of this uh uh development. Also, um same holds true for RV vehicles. I think that we're not going to have any issues with vehicle traffic. That's going to be anything we can't handle. Uh the other item that I want to stress is that uh I work very closely with Ron Novak on all the projects that come to the first district. I've been the chair for the environmental committee for the city council for the past 22 years. And uh the district is very sensitive to industry and new development that comes in because for a number of decades nobody will keep an eye on that. Uh we

have been doing that and Mr. Patel has exceeded the requirements that were asked of him by Ron Novak in testing of the soil. Uh so I want to thank him for that for going over and above what was required and uh I feel comfortable about uh where we stand protecting the environment as well as how we're going to cap and about the runoff not the runoff but maintaining the wetlands. Glad to see that we're going to continue to have our two wetlands in that 21 acres. And I also took, as is customary for me, uh the developer, Mr. Patel, on a tour to show him how we do things in the first district. Uh we tend to ask for a little more than the requirements uh regarding green space, lighting, etc. And I was assured that by Mr. Patel that he also wants his development to look good because it's going to be important for him to attract business and high rollers with big boats and big RVs to want to come to a place that looks appealing and well-kept. Uh so I'm clear that he's going to do even more than is requested by requirements. I'm really happy about this potential for this project. I think it's good timing. Uh and there is a need for the kind of boat storage that he's bringing. Uh the region and Chicago land just really doesn't have much in the way of uh storage with canopy and enclosed

storage that you can drive into as well. Uh so I'm excited about this. There may be a little bit of hurdles to go through as we go along, but I'm sure that after all my meetings with Mr. Patel that he's willing to do the right things regarding what the city and the neighborhood is looking for. Thank you. Thank you.

I'm sure you will keep in contact with them if this is this is approved. Just for the record, if you're a city official, you'd have to live in the city. Well, I know you, but you had to say your address. So, though I'm being obnoxious, what can I say? I can be, too. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Anyone else? Then we will close the period of public comments. Board members have any comments at this time? I don't. Okay. We will take Z-25-22 par A for the conditional use for the recreational vehicle storage facility. Could we have the staff report bee? I will take care of that. Sorry, Mr. Poland.

All right. Um, it's been talked about that the first the first question is for the conditional use and this is as described related to the fact that this is based on the language of the zoning ordinance that the RV portion uh RV and boat is similar to the boat storage and um the dock storage. So staff has reviewed the petitioner's request and recommends that the BCA grant the conditional use per determining that the RV storage is similar to boat storage. Should the board feel the petitioner has met the standards subject to one approval of the two developmental variances under case the BZA cases Z22B and C and all their conditions of approval. Two, the installation and maintenance of appropriate driving and parking surface for all areas of the facility. Three, conservation of the two delineated wetlands of seven and a half point plus or minus acres. Three, recordation of the commitment document regarding the limitation of certain permitted and conditional I1 uses as required under the resoning. And five, compliance with the Hammond city code chapters 94, 97, 98, 101, 132, 150, and 160. and in particular sections enforcing litter, junk and the harboring of a public use nuisance as to maintain a sanitary, safe and aesthetically pleasing property.

All right, we have a recommendations for proposed findings of fact. Any members have any questions, comments, additions, deletions at this time? I don't.

So hearing none. Good. We have a motion to accept the staff report and with the conditions that the staff is proposing and the findings of fact into the record. Um Madam Chairman, I want to also state for the record that in the findings of fact um that the the indication is that eight of the criteria are met and number nine does not apply. So, can we have a motion that all standards have been met for Z-25-22 PNGs AR 1 through eight and nine is approval provides reasonable accommodation pursuant to section 24 53. three and accept the staff report and their recommendations as well as the proposed findings of fact into the record.

I'll make the motion we approve the standards and conditions as findings effect. I'll second. Do we have a motion to approve all that into the record? We have a roll call vote. Cynthia, yes. Faulner, yes. Roger, yes. Thomas Casmir, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass.

Okay. One step down. Now we will go to Z-25-22 Pangs B, which is a developmental variance for the side jar setback under 10 ft in I1. Any questions or comments or shall we move right to the staff report?

Do we have a motion? Point of order. Um, the secretary has asked a question. Did you Was there a second motion? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Vote on approving it. Yeah. So, we have to have the second motion that approves a conditional use with the conditions. Didn't you? No. Do we have a motion to approve? Do we have a motion and a second?

I'll second. Okay. Not done yet. Okay. Roll call vote. Cynthia Hasso. Yes. Dan Faulner. Yes. Roger Brock. Yes. Miss Casmier, yes. Kathleen Peele, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass.

Okay. Then we'll move to D-25-22 Burns B for the developmental variance for the sideyard setback under 10 ft in I1. Okay. Yeah, there was a four-page staff report submitted. Um, skipping to the recommendation. Excuse me. Staff has reviewed the petitioner's request, it recommends that the BCA grant developmental variance. Should the board feel the petitioner has met the standards subject to the following condition one, approval of the conditional use case Z2522 parenthes and the developmental variance case Z2522 par and all other conditions of approval. Uh this is followed by one page finding proposed findings of fact and this is in regards to the 2.16 foot setback in lie of 10 ft. All right, we have proposed findings of FAP. Any questions, additions, deletions?

I don't. Hearing none. Do we have a motion to accept the that staff report and the findings of fact and that the standards have been met and include in the staff report the recommendations from the staff. I'll make a motion to approve the standards and conditions set forth in staff report. Second and are we approving the findings of factory? Yes. Okay. Okay. We have a motion and a second.

So Paul vote yes. Dan Faulner yes. Roger. Yes. Thomas yes. Kathleen Hill. Yes. Five eyes. Zero nays. Zero extensions. Motion pass. Okay, I think we might have to backtrack a little bit too because we've approved the staff report and we've approved findings of staff but we did not approve either one of them yet. Did we? That's all been approved. Okay. I thought we just prove the findings are passed.

Right. You're at the stage of the second motion. Okay. All right. So, now we need to have a motion to accept or deny Z dash 25-22 parame. I'll make a motion to approve development22.

A second. We have a motion, a second roll call vote. Cynthia Hassel, yes. Faulner, yes. Roger, yes. Thomas Casmir, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero abstensions. Motion pass. Okay. And now we'll move to Z-25-22 paren C for developmental variance for parking lot setback under 40 ft in I1. You ready for the staff report?

So in this case again another four-page staff report. I'll skip to recommendation. Staff has reviewed the petitioner's request and recommends that the BCA grant the developmental variance. Should the award feel the petitioner has met the standards subject to the following condition. One, approval of the conditional use case Z2522 prince A and the developmental variance case Z-25-22 prince B and all other conditions of approval followed by one page proposed findings effect any questions comments deletions additions for the proposed findings effect for Z-25-22 PNC See,

I don't. Okay. Do we have a motion that Z-25-22 parenthesy has met all the standards and accept the staff report and and also their recommendation and the findings of fact into the record. I'll make the motion to approve all the standards and conditions in the staff report as findings of fact. Okay. Um, point of order. Um, you're she she states four things in the request and then you state two. Okay. When you verbalize it. Okay. So, the intent is she's correct in the tent of asking the four things. Okay. So, just make sure the motion reflects that.

That's clarification. four things. Okay, it's that that Z Well, let make sure I'm right. Z-25-22 parc has met all the standards for the developmental varian that we are also accepting the staff report into the record with their recommendations and we're accepting the findings of fact into the record. That sounds good. I'll make that motion. All four of them, I think so. Oh, thank you. So, Roger, your motion is so moved. Yes. Thank you. Okay.

We have a motion and a second.

Roll call vote. Cynthia Hasso, yes. And Faulner, yes. Roger, yes. Thomas Casm, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion passed. All right. I'm sure we're all looking forward to the next group. We need one more. Wait, wait. Now we need to pass. Oh, we have to pass it though. Okay, we have a motion to approve, deny. I got to find out which one it is. D-25-22 for MC.

Yes. and everything else. Yeah, I messed up. We have We have a city council person sitting here looking at our Okay, we have that motion. Do we have a second? We have a motion and a second. Could we have a roll call vote? Cynthia Hassel, yes. And Faulner, yes. Roger Fry, yes. Thomas Casmir, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes.

Five eyes, zero nay, zero extensions. Motion pass. Okay. Have all noification requirements have been met for all the other. Yes, they have. One, two, three, five of them. Okay. So, so we're going to read all these into the record. You have to read them all.

I will read them all into the record. Okay, we have Z-25-23 Pangs A, a developmental varian selfservice storage facility larger than 3 acres at 3518 Sheffield Avenue. We have D-25-23 Paren PeninsB developmental variance height over 15 ft and one story for selfservice storage facility at 3518 Sheffield Avenue. We also have Z-25-23 PNC developmental variant building footprint over 10,000 square ft for a selfservice storage facility at 3518 Sheffield Avenue G-25-23 PND developmental varian deviation from mason masonary instruction for selfservice storage facility at 3518 Sheffield Avenue and D-25-23E, a developmental varian sign greater than 120 fair square feet in I1 3518 Sheffield Avenue. And all of these are located in Hammond, Indiana. Can we have the petitioner for come forward and state his name and address?

Certainly. Scott Yaney again and uh address is still the same as I reported and I'll just continue. Um everything that I said before, we'll just kind of drop cut and paste and drop that in right now. And now we're talking about the climate controlled storage aspect of this project. Uh and there are five developmental variances that we are seeking and they will be all at one time and taken separately. Yes.

So we'll do these five at least as part of this part of the presentation. Um there are to get kind of orient you. There are two uh three-story buildings and they are uh joined together by a covered drive aisle. So, I'll get to the specific requests that we're making here tonight, but if you look on the uh on the site plan that we've given, uh those buildings are on kind of the northwest corner of the building, I'll call it, kind of to the back of the property away from Sheffield Avenue and uh and also away from 135th, kind of on the other end of the property, if you will, up near the railroad. road tracks and where the US has an access drive. So th that's essentially kind of where we're talking about uh and the petitions that we need uh to advance to you this night tonight. Um the ordinance requires that we can't occupy more than three acres and we're seeking approval for 4.64 acres. um it's a little difficult uh you know we we have to include wetlands in that area um or at least as part of our computations and what we include uh we worked with Mr. Poland uh and Mr. Novak and also uh Don Tanga who was involved in this process uh to try to delineate what was that footprint and I'll get to that in a moment. Um then the next uh developmental variance um the ordinance says we can't go more than or we have a maximum height rather of 15 ft. Uh we're seeking to exceed

that by 25 ft to go to 38 feet. Um and you know as I indicated from the orientation we think we're we're not intruding on anyone where we are by going that extra footage. uh and uh Mr. Patel has determined that he needs that economically for this project. Uh the next petition is that um the ordinance contemplates a maximum uh size of 10,000 square feet uh per building. Uh we are exceeding that uh by let's see here is that 31,000 and 38,000 give or take square foot footprint. So we are exceeding that 10,000 square foot limitation kind of for the same rationale I just cited. Uh the ordinance requires uh masonry construction. Uh when we were before redevelopment uh commission uh we were the requirement for was for onethird masonry. We exceed one-third masonry coverage here but I'll get to that as we go through. And then the last one uh is we are seeking to exceed the 120 square foot uh gross sign area limitation. Uh and just due to the size of this property and where this signage is set back from uh Sheffield, we are seeking a total of 191.5 square feet. And some of that also includes directional signage to get people through this uh uh this property which also is we know has the uh RV and uh boat storage attributes. Um so the criteria for developmental variance uh is we need to for all of these we need

to show you that the approval is not injurious to the public health, safety, morals and general welfare of the community. uh the use and value of the area adjacent to the property um will not be affected in a substantially adverse manner and strict application of the terms of the zoning ordinance uh will result in practical difficulty. So we have three criteria rather than the nine for the uh conditional use. Um but uh so I won't go into too much detail on this but I do want to at least give you some overview. It may help you here in considering these if you have the supporting letter that I advanced. I'll can at least point you to some illustrations. That's the 26 page letter. If you have it in your material uh but you'll see some photos in there and I may just reference those as we're kind of popping through some of these issues if you want to kind of follow along. Um, first of all, this is a very, if you look at page five and you'll at least this is an artist's rendering, but just to at least give you some idea of what uh what this project will look like from various vantage points. Um, I think you you're going to get a sense this is a kind of almost a in some way not maybe pastoral is not the right word, but it's a very welcoming um project in terms of how it's laid out with green space and how the canopies kind of augment the surrounding area. Uh and then we locate our storage buildings back to the back. So we're not inundated by uh building uh for much of our property here. And then if you look at page six, you'll see the overall and I granted it's small here, but we have extracts if you need anything larger. We have the overall site plan that kind of gives you the orientation. Um, and you'll see, as I mentioned, it's kind of

looks like the top of a triangle almost is where these storage uh buildings are located, but the north extent of the property and then to the west, but we kind of have unique shaped property. And then if you look at the bottom, you'll start to get a sense of the elevation of the property. And then carrying on to uh uh page seven, you'll also see the building elevations. So that'll give you an idea. Uh and then as you move forward to uh well at the bottom of page seven, you'll see one of the signs. It says our storage uh that's on the building. I just it it kind of gives you a sense I think that we're uh within um although we're requesting what seems like a lot of signage proportionally, it's it's uh proportional to the building uh and it's simply designed to help show people where this is. It's uh definitely not excessive from a visual uh kind of sensory uh kind of a approach. Uh what the signage looks like. You'll see then on page top of page eight the single R and then you'll see a couple of ground signs and that's the extent of our signage. So although we have a lot of square feet, um this is rather modest signage I think for this type of project just due to the size of it. Um as I said, for each one of these criteria, we need to show you that we fit um within the three criteria. Um and we don't we already did the sideyard. So for item it's zoned in. There we go. Building

acreage. Um so we are looking for um 4.64 acres instead of three. And if you look on the on the letter, if you can go to, and I'm gonna try to just address this once, although I tried not to repeat the same drawing throughout, but if you look on the bottom of page 23, you will see um the area that we have designated for the climate controlled storage building. And you'll see that contains the access drive to get to the RV. So we've tried to designate what we thought was reasonable to include within the climate controlled storage although aspects of this go to both projects. So when we go to consider that footprint and uh Mr. that was primarily uh Mr. Tanga and I think Brian at that time trying to delineate what was reasonable. They decided that this where the red cross-hatching appears in that letter that would be the acreage. So that acreage exceeds 3 acres. So that's the first uh item that we're asking you to consider. Um the next item um is that uh we have a maximum of 15 ft in height. Uh but we are seeking um and also we have a single story limitation. Um as indicated we are looking to go to 38 ft. So exceed that by 23 ft. That's because we have three-story buildings. Um won't pose any safety issues. Uh and we are putting these kind of as I've described it at the back of the property so it doesn't obstruct anything. Um the next item is that we are allowed a maximum size of

10,000 square ft. In many of areas of the city that would definitely be appropriate. Not to say it's not appropriate anywhere, but in this area, just due to the size of this project and the magnitude, uh, giving us the extra square footage of 74,700 square ft. Um, due to the scope, we think makes sense. It doesn't pose any safety risk. Uh, the building material doesn't pose a safety risk. We I'll get to that just a little bit more later. the signage we think what's uh I've included on the bottom of page 15 just a reference to the wayfinding signs for the exit and the entrance areas that's designated to promote safety so we don't think we have any issues there. Uh moving on we have to show you that it won't substantially uh ad we won't have a substantial adverse impact on the neighboring properties. Um and just just for point of reference that 16 we considered that illustration of the gas station for the other petition that we've already considered but that will just going forward you'll kind of have a sense of where they are on the corner and uh we think overall we are enhancing their property and nothing that we're proposing will be a detraction at all and as I say I've talked to their attorney I've talked to Mr. Collins, who's, you know, the principal. Uh, they like this project and they've been tuned in throughout. Um, and other than that, we really don't have direct neighbors other than, as Mr. Kowinsky said, the larger community and I think, um, his words speak for themselves, but I seems like there's a favorable response. Um the I don't think any of the the the either the acreage or the height poses any concern to the surrounding neighbors

particularly where we're located. Uh similar the building square footage. I think that that's also the case. um the building material that's of concern certainly to neighbors, but we think the type and nature of this construction that we've hopefully given you an idea of uh through some of these illustrations, uh this is going to be a class A facility throughout. As uh Mr. Kowinsky did a really nice job pointing out, we're seeking to uh attract people to put very valuable possessions here and so uh Mr. Patel has to present in the manner that will make those folks feel welcome and that they have a uh a good uh home away from from home for their uh you know substantial uh vehicles and uh uh that in which they've invested a lot of time and money. Um so we think that uh the building material doesn't uh detract from the area. Uh likewise the signage I think it is very tasteful. rather although it's this the uh the amount exceeds our ordinance for this type of building this type of how far back it's set um I think it's well within the scope it won't pose any issues and we have um on the map here shown you where you will see those uh where those um AB and AB C and D on the in the kind of the on page 19 where these signs are located. So you can see the biggest sign, the R storage is located uh kind of toward that back on that back building. Uh and then the monument sign is right in front low monument sign and along Sheffield. Uh and then we have the building with the R which is where the

lounge is located. Uh and also the attendant for the facility. Um, that's where you see the R, which is D, and then C is that's the exit sign directing people out to 36th Street. So, we don't think that that detracts at all from the surrounding community. And then finally, we have to show you the criteria that um that we've done our best basically to meet the terms of the zoning ordinance. Uh but strict application would result in difficulties and basically would result in us not being able to do this project. Um and as those issues, I've kind of touched on those already. Certainly with the building acreage, this is a unique setting. Um and and you can really get a an a good overview on page 23 of the wetlands that uh we needed to work around and comprehend here uh and where everything could be cited. Um we think that the acreage does make sense for this type of project. Um as I pointed out, putting the the buildings, the storage buildings in the northwest corner makes sense. The size of the building I think makes good sense. um on the building material. We're not all masonry, but I think just due to the size of this project, where it's located, this is going to be a very tastefully uh and aesthetically crafted project with high-end materials. Uh we think that the variance here uh is is makes sense and the the redevelopment commission agreed at least when they had the opportunity to consider this issue. Uh and then finally, uh we think that the building signage is proportional and makes good sense for this project. So that is an overview of the five developmental variance petitions that

we're seeking this evening. Happy to answer any specific questions, but uh also know we've been here for a while and I apologize for the length of time. So thank you. Any questions? I don't. I have a question. Yes. Will the storage units only be used by people who will have the RVs and boats there or will it be open to the public too? It will be open to the public. Um, and so the the flow of traffic is to it goes kind of either you go either branch if you will. Did I say that correctly? Close enough.

Okay. Then you might want to make a comment since you've talked about the neighborhood and how happy they are or how pleased with that development. What about the security? I don't think that's been mentioned. Oh, do you want to speak about the security attributes? I know that you've been asked, Mr. But I just want to make sure it is in the record.

So, we'll be having cameras. Um, and then there's believe there's three gates. Uh each of the gates will have like a access. So once they pass the lounge or the attendant building, if they don't have proper credentials, if they have not rented a unit, they won't be able to go past the first gate. Um if they have an RV or boat storage, there'll be a second gate. So that separates the store self storage customers from the RV and the boat users. So we're segregating the traffic and their access and then there'll be lighting. All the canopy will be lit. Uh the building will be also lit and then uh we'll be using cameras.

All right. Thank you. All right. Any other questions? I don't.

Okay. We will open this for the period of public comments. version. He won in the audience and he won online and he won on the in the audience. Anyone online? Anyone in the audience? Anyone online? We will close the period of public comment. We will start with D-25-23 paren A for the developmental variance for selfservice storage facility larger than 3 acres. Any questions for the staff or shall we move right into the staff report?

I don't. Okay, we have the staff report.

Okay. and Z2523A fundamental variance case. This is a four-page staff report. I'll jump to the recommendation. Some of these conditions will seem to be repeated from the original case we did tonight, but that's um because you know, one was handling RVs, one was self-service. We wanted to make sure that it was covered in both in case one passed and the other didn't. But so anyway, recommendation staff has reviewed the petitioner's request and recommends that the BCA grant the developmental variance should the board feel the petitioners met the standards subject to the following conditions. One, approval of the three developmental variances under BCA case number Z23, B, C, and D and all other conditions of approval. Two, installation and maintenance of appropriate driving and parking surface for all areas of facility. Three, conservation of the two delineated wetland areas, 7 and a half acres more or less. Four, recordation of commitment document regarding the limitation of storage of certain materials and categories of items and of certain patron activities on site. Five, compliance with Hammond City Code, chapters 94, 97, 98, 101, 132, 150, 160. and in particular sections enforcing litter, junk, and the harboring of a public nuisance as to maintain a sanitary, safe, and aesthetically pleasing property. Um, following this is a one-page proposed findings of facts in this case regarding a self-service storage facility larger than 3 acres. Thank you.

Staff have any comments, questions, additions, deletions for the proposed findings of fact. All right. Do we have a motion to adopt the findings of fact and that the petitioner has met all the standards for the developmental variance and the staff report also includes the recommendations from the staff

conditions and the conditions. All right. So moved. Do we have a second? I'll second. Roll call vote. Cynthia, yes. Dan Faulner, yes. Yes. Thomas, yes. Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass.

Okay. Do we have a motion in regard to D-25-23 per day for the developmental variance for the south story facility larger than 3 acres? We have a second. Second roll call vote. Cynthia Hasso, yes. Faulner, yes. Roger, yes. Thomas, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero abstensions. Motion pass.

All right, we'll move on to Z-25-23. Penins B the developmental variance for the height over 15 feet in a high one story for selfservice storage facility. Okay, ready for the staff report?

Yes, same as before. Four-page staff report. Um we'll skip over the analysis and all that and we'll get to the recommendation. Staff has reviewed the petitioner's request and recommends that the BCA grant the developmental variance should the board feel the petitioner has met the standards subject to the following condition. Approval of the three developmental variances under case numbers Z-25-23 A C and D and all other conditions of approval followed by one page proposed findings effect. Again, this is in regards to the height over 15 feet and height over one story for self-service storage facility. All right. Any additions or deletions for the proposed findings of

no. Okay. Do we have a motion that petitioner has met all the standards required and to accept the staff report and their recommendations and the proposed bindings to fact into the record? So moved. Do we have a second? Second. Motion and a second. Could we have a roll call vote? Cynthia Hassel, yes. Dan Faulner, yes. Roger, yes. Thomas Casmir, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass.

Now, do we have a motion to approve or deny the developmental variance for D-25-23 B? I'll make the motion to approve variance D-25-23B subject to the standard conditions set forth staff. I'll second. We have a motion and a second because we have a roll call vote. Cynthia Hasso, yes. Faulner, yes. Roger. Yes. Thomas Casmir, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass.

All right. believe we are ready to move to Z-25- 23 PN C for the developmental variance for the building footprint over 10,000 square ft for a selfservice storage facility.

Yes. And once again, a four-page staff report includes analysis comparing it to the 10 other known self-service storage facilities in the city of Hammond. But uh moving beyond that on the page three the recommendation staff has reviewed the petitioner's request and recommends that the BCA grant the developmental variance should the board feel the petitioner has met the standards is subject to the following condition. Approval of the three developmental variances under BZA case numbers Z-25-23A B and D and all other conditions of approval. This is followed by a one-page proposed findings of facts.

All right. We also have proposed findings of fact. Any addition, deletion? No. No. All right. Do we have a motion to approve that this petitioner has met all standards for the developmental variance and approve the staff report with their conditions and also the findings of fact. So move we have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Roll call vote. Cynthia Hassau. Yes. Faulner. Yes. Yes. Thomas. Yes. Kathleen Hill.

Yes. Five eyes. Zero. Zero extension. Motion pass. All right. We are moving into Z-25-23 Parend D. We need Did we didn't pass this? No, we need to get one more in there. Okay. We need a motion to approve. Yes. Okay. Do we have such a motion to approve? I'll make the motion to approve.

Okay. I think it's two. Okay. C. Yes. Okay. We have a second. We have a motion. A second. Roll call vote. Cynthia Hassel. Yes. Dan Faulner. Yes. Roger. Yes. Thomas. Yes. Kathleen Hill. Yes. zero naysensions. Motion pass.

And now we have Z-25-23 par for the de developmental variant um deviation from mason masonary construction for self-s serve selfservice storage facility. Ready for the staff report?

Yes, thank you. Again, a four-page staff report. Um on page three, the staff recommendation reads, "Staff has reviewed the petitioner's requests and recommends that the BCA grant the developmental variance. Should the board feel the petitioner has met these standards subject to the following condition. Approval of the three developmental variants under PZA case number numbers Z25 23A, B and um C and all other conditions of approval. It's followed by a one-page proposed findings of facts um which gets an analysis of the fire and life safety impacts and those kinds of things. J I think we're all questioning. You said A, B, and C. Our packet says A, B, and D.

Yeah. And we were on to the masonry, right? Yes. What's that? So, I will say we we should and I did correct that verb. So, it should say A, B, and C. If we're talking about case D, I apologize. Okay. You will have to amend that. Could I swear I caught all those? I'm sorry. All right. Okay. Any other questions or comments for the proposed findings of fact?

So, do we have a motion to approve that the petitioner has met all standards for the developmental variance and approve the staff report with their including the conditions presented and the findings of fact into the record. So moved. We have a motion and a second roll call vote. No, we didn't have a second. I'll second. There we go. Can you get the first and second? You okay? All right. Roll call vote. Cynthia Hassel. Yes. Pam Faulner. Yes. Roger. Yes. Thomas, yes. Kathleen Hill,

yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass. Now, do we have a motion in regard to approve or deny uh the developmental variance for Z-25-23 friends for D? I'll make a motion to approve Z-25-23D subject. I'll second. We have a motion and a second. Roll call vote. Cynthia Hasso, yes. Faulner, yes. Dr. Brock, yes. Thomas yes Kathleen Hill yes five I zero nay zero extensions motion pass

now we will move to Z-25-23 parents E for developmental variance for the sign greater than 120 square ft in I1 would we have a staff report

I will do it so one of the comments that I kind of want to make for thatification of the board. Um, one of the things about signage is is becoming really challenging in interpreting how we approve signage based on um, not too far long ago a Supreme Court ruling about uh, you cannot judge a sign based on its content. So when we start using the terms of directional signs, traffic signs, information signs, and other other adjectives, um those imply you've read it and you know what it says. So, our regulation, even though our ordinance is still a little out ofd to this point, um, one of the things that we evaluated on these signage is that we have sign regulations for self- storage and then we have the sign regulations for industrial zone properties. And it's in the staff report, but we went through and identified all the signs that have been presented to us. And we've identified that only one of them needed a variant. So all the others are approved signs and the approval of this is based on the I1 regulations of one sign cannot be greater than 120 square ft. So I just wanted to make sure that was clear in the record of what the actual action is necessary for the board. That being said, um the staff has reviewed the petitioner's request and recommends that the BCA grant the developmental variant should the board feel the petitioner has met the standards subject to the conditions. Approval of the four developmental variance cases Z23 A, B, C, and D and the recreational

vehicle storage condition use case Z2522A including all their conditions of approval. Just an off-handed comment just to note those the signs app are that they've been presented to us are not just self- storage signs they are also R RV location signs. Okay. Uh the particular sign in question is a self- storage sign. So condition number two the sign face of the wall sign subject to the petition shall be no greater than 200 square feet. They asked for 191.5 so we rounded it up. Three, the wall sign subject of the position will never contain any moving or flashing components nor programmable message displays as defined in title section 1.5 O and title section 21.26 of the zoning ordinance. Okay, on the same page, right, we have proposed findings of fact. Any additions, deletions, comments?

No. No. All right. Do we have a motion that the petitioner has met all the requirements for the developmental variance and to accept this also accept the staff report with their conditions and recommendations and the findings of fact into the record? So moved. Motion. Do we have a second? Second. We have a motion and a second. Roll call vote. Cynthia Hassel. Yes. Stan Faulner. Yes. Dr. Yes. Thomas, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero extensions. Motion pass.

Do we have a motion to approve or deny the developmental variance for Z-25-23 Penins E? I'll make a motion to approve subject to set. And we have a motion and a second. Roll call vote. Cynthia, yes. Yes. Roger. Yes. Thomas, yes. Kathleen Hill, yes. Five eyes, zero nays, zero absence. Motion pass. When's construction start? August or September?

September. So, you're not going to be ready for this voting seat. You won't be Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you guys. Um, yeah, we we're anticipating August, September before the season kind of ends for concrete work, but we have u still got to go through a design phase in engineering. So, all right. And permitting. Good luck and welcome. Welcome to that. Thank you, community. Thank you. Appreciate very much everyone. Yeah. Thank you. It went faster than I thought, right? Oh, I mean

what it could have been. Okay. All right. Commissioner comments. I think we have a lady there sitting in the audience waiting for a date. Yeah, I feel bad. So, are you calling staff comments or any comments from the commission? I don't. Do they have a proposed recommendation for a date? Uh, that would be under staff. Okay. All right, staff comments.

Okay, so um as we just said, we have to discuss rescheduling the uh May 26 meeting. Um staff is suggesting that it is uh rescheduled for June 2nd. That's the following Tuesday. Is is that reasonable for everybody at this point? And I'm just assuming we'll have two June meetings if necessary. that potentially that is that's a potential consequence of that. Well, you'll just have a you'll June 2nd would be fine. You'll just have a bigger check that month.

All I know is I know what I'm doing Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. And I have no idea what I'm doing June. Then you'll be here. Yeah, I'm fine with June second. Roll call. No, it's fine. Yes, we do need to have a roll call on that. Actually, we have to have a technically have to have a motion first. Motion to change the May date from Tuesday, May 26th to Tuesday, June 2nd, 2026. I move to change the meeting from May 25th to June 2nd. May 26. May 26 to June 2nd. Sorry. And we have a motion and a second. Roll call vote. Roger.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Faulner. Yes. Pass. Okay. Thank you for waiting for the date. Yes. All right. Public comments. Um Tom, do we have anything ready for the next meeting? I'll be honest. You know, I I don't know if there's anything. I mean, we may not have a meeting next month. We're in the deadline. The deadline's now. So, oh, so apparently we don't have any. Well, you know, unfortunately, we already know what you people do. We we we sometimes give them a few extra days. Oh, but um

I know what that's like. We will let you know. Um Shannon, just make a note when we come up with a decision as to if there is something on the agenda, we'll give you a heads up rather than, you know, sooner rather than the week before. Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate it. It's not me, by the way. Yeah, right. We're done. Staff comments are done.

Okay. What do we have next? Put my agenda away. Okay, we have through public comment. No one in the public. Motion to adjourn. I make a motion to second.