Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

All right. Good evening, folks. Welcome to the March 24th iteration of the Dair Township Board of Supervisors Bimonthly Meeting. Bimonthly, semionthly meeting. Anyway, uh let's start out with the Pledge of Allegiance, please. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Mr. Jackson, will you please do the roll call? Sure. Supervisor Belaluchcci here. Supervisor Curado

here. Supervisor Myers present. Supervisor Ballard here. And supervisor Zmuda I am here. We have five present this evening. Thank you, Mr. Jackson. Okay, that opens up our first period for public comment. Anybody would like to make a uh statement, please step forward. You have three minutes.

Thank you. My name is Janice Regan, address university Manor East, Hershey, Pennsylvania. I'd like to offer an additional comment regarding interactions with federal immigration enforcement. Based on my research and information, I learned from meeting with Derry Township Police, where they answered some questions I had. I appreciate our police departments willingness to meet with folks and answer questions. My goal is not to unduly limit law enforcement, but to support clarity, transparency, and public trust for all residents in law enforcement. Previously, I had suggested an ordinance with limits on masking, but I understand that may not be enforceable under federal law. Instead, a practical step would be to require law enforcement officers operating operating within the township to display official identification when interacting with the public when feasible, as they already do here. This sets clear expectations and helps build confidence in legitimate law enforcement activity. We could also remind residents that they have the right to ask officers, including federal agents, to identify themselves and that the township police can assist in verifying identification when appropriate. Additionally, when federal agencies interact with township facilities or personnel, basic information such as the date, agency, and general activity could be documented. This would not interfere with operations, but would ensure township leadership has accurate information if questions arise from residents. In summary, I'm asking the board to consider ordinances that promote clear identification, reinforces public understanding of rights, and supports transparency. These steps help strengthen trust, reduce confusion, and support effective governance. Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Miss Reed. Anyone else interested in speaking?

Hi, good evening. My name is Sue Kitlin. I live at 968 Carter Cove in South Point. And um my concern is the area on Middletown Road where the Turkey Hill is. There's a red light there, which many times people are going right through it. I've been a resident of South Point for over 30 years. I'm also a former trauma nurse from Hershey Med, so I saw my fair share of traumas through my lifetime, sadness and tragedy. Recently, just last week, I was sitting coming from Turkey Hill to cross the street to go home. My light turned green. The light on Middletown Road was red. I started across and my red Honda and a tractor trailer blew through that light. Had I kept going, I probably wouldn't be here tonight. My light was green. Yes. Before anybody says, I do look both ways before I cross. Absolutely. But I'm a seasoned driver. South Point has many young people, many drivers, and most people utilize that light because of the traffic on Middletown Road. And yes, we have a very strong police presence on Middletown Road, which I greatly appreciate because they keep the speed, people who are speeding, they keep the speeds down, they keep us safe, and for that I am very appreciative. My concern is the amount of people that go through that light, never stop, never slow down. Many people have seen it. I've seen it many times. Last week was an incident that was just way too close.

Not only are there drivers crossing there, there are walkers. There are bicyclists, there are children. I saw kids stay on scooters trying to get across. So yeah, I am looking for is there any way we can have some sort of a and I say I see police presence around and I appreciate them so very much. I really do. Is there any way we can have some kind of a presence there? Some kind of a a camera because like I said, I worked as a trauma nurse more years than I care to say. And you know what? I had so many people that say if I had to do it all over again, tragedy, you don't get doovers. I sat with way too many families. It happens and it happens in a second and people's lives are altered forever. Mine is just one story. And ironically, that night I read out on the Hummelstown Friends site, many people were commenting about seeing also many of these occurrences. So, we're just looking, is there anything can be done? I saw children today crossing on bicycles and I thought, "Oh my goodness. Let's not wait till we have a tragedy there. Thank you for hearing me out."

Okay. Thank you, Miss Gdin. Is there anybody else who wishes to speak? Seeing none, we move on to our our agenda items. First item is our consent calendar. We can approve this as one item or individually. What say you? I'll make a motion that the board accepts the entirety of the consent counters. Are there any questions, concerns? Hearing none. Do I hear a motion? I'll second motion.

Thank you very much. Uh, any further questions? All in favor? I oppose. Hearing none. Motion carries. Consent calendar is approved. Okay, moving on to our first new business, the recognition of the 2025 employee performance award winners. Mr. Jackson, if you'd please.

Thank you. Uh it's truly a privilege to take a few minutes tonight to recognize some outstanding members of our Dair Township team as we celebrate our 2025 employee performance award winners. These employees have gone above and beyond in their roles and have shown a genuine dedication to serving the residents of Dair Township. Their efforts not only strengthen our organization internally, but also directly enhance the quality of life in our community. Tonight, we are proud to recognize and thank these exceptional employees for their contributions in 2025. Their work sets a standard for all of us and reflects the strong serviceoriented spirit that defines Dair Township. At this time, I'm happy to turn it over to the department heads to present their 2025 employee performance award winners. Uh, tonight we'll start with the fire department and then we'll circle back to police and then we'll go in our normal order of departmental reports.

Thank Thank you, Zach. I appreciate that very much. Um, tonight we're going to be honoring Rodney Sunderman, who is unavailable. He's actually in Idaho right now. Um, and uh, Chief Leonard is here to address the board and uh, say a few words about uh, Deputy Chief or former Deputy Chief Rodney Sundan.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Our employee of the year for 2025 is also known as the Richard B. Ruticil firefighter of the year in our department. Rodney Sandman can't be here, so I'm here to receive his award for him and make sure he gets it. Rodney retired from the fire company earlier earlier this year and long before he ca became a member of our department. He already served others in many capacities to include serving the country and the armed forces, working with the Boy Scouts organization in California uh before coming to Hershey and working with and touching the lives of countless young men and women while he worked at Milton Hershey School. When he moved to the community, he joined the Hershey Volunteer Fire Department. It did not take long for Rodney to start climbing the ranks of the officer's position within the department and was instrumental in many phases of our operations to include but certainly not limited to because I'd be here for about five minutes gaining thousands of dollars through his grant writing capability capabilities being on the top responders list year after year keeping our reporting system which is a daunting task up and running and up to date, being a part of the South Central Pennsylvania task force, being a mentor to the young and older members of our department, his dedication to the firerevention program uh that has outreach not only to the schools within our township, but alo also the businesses. In addition to retiring from the fire company, he retired from Milton Hershey School in 2025. He has taken a job in the insurance industry with a company that specializes in writing insurance for fire companies throughout the country. His position within that organization is to train firefighters across this country and a wide range of programs to hopefully ensure their

safety as they serve their respective communities. with knowing his passion for the fire service, he is in the right place and we will it's a he's a he's a void within the department. His presence in the fire department made our department better and made our community better. Members of the fire department very much appreciate you uh having us as part of the employee of the year ser uh ceremonies. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Chief Leonard. I'll set precedence for the rest of us. U police department is uh recognizing Dale Nelson. Dale Nelson, a dedicated and life ser lifelong serving member of the Dair Township Police Department, has been an integral part of our team for an impressive 24 years. Dale I haven't talked to you lately. Is this year the last year or is Dale usually says every year is his last year? But uh he's been with us for 24 years. Uh since joining the department in January of 2002 as a dispatcher, Dale has consistently demonstrated his commitment to excellence and his passion for serving the community. In 2020, Dale took on a new challenge as a member of the records section where he continues to provide exceptional support to the department and the public. Throughout his career, Dale has been a great example of dependability, always striving to do his absolute best for the women and men of Dair Township Police Department. But Dale's dedication goes beyond his official duties. He has a heart for helping others, often going above and beyond to assist residents, businesses, and guests in need of our services. His kindness and compassion have made a noticeable impact on our community. In addition to his outstanding work, Dale has also demonstrated leadership skills, stepping in to help members of our department in their time of need. Another example is his role in organizing the annual Christmas party for the children of the police department employees, bringing joy to

those around him. Dale is a devoted family man to both his personal family and our department family. We are grateful for Dale's tireless efforts, his commitment to excellence, and his selfless dedication to serving others. He is a true asset to the Dair Township Police Department and we are honored to have him receive this recognition.

And for those in attendance, if they could come up front There he is. Congratulations. It gives me great pleasure to introduce Caitlyn Boucher as the employee of the year for the Hershey Public Library. Caitlyn works at the front desk of the library as a seasonal public services assistant. Caitlyn frequently takes on extra small projects we need done. The refrain is always, "Maybe Caitlyn can handle this," and she does. It's always completed quickly and accurately. She assisted with a new reader advisory binder we keep at the front desk and has taken on the task of helping with displays throughout the library. A co-orker said that Caitlyn is fun, caring, and funny. She takes her responsibilities seriously and loves books. Of everyone I spoke with, they agree she's a joy to work with whenever she is scheduled. As anyone who has ever worked in customer service knows, it's often difficult to handle troublesome situations and maintain your calm. But Caitlyn makes uncomfortable situations look effortless. And anyone interacting with her always leaves with a smile. I walked out of the library board meeting last Tuesday to see Caitlyn excitedly

talking with a little girl about the pile of books she was checking out. The joy on both their faces was why I loved seeing Caitlyn at the front desk and why patrons enjoying seeing her there. When asked why Caitlyn was deserving of employee of the year at the Hershey Public Library, her manager, Amanda Ekis, responded with, "Caitlyn always shows up to work with a smile and is passionate and enthusiastic about her work. She can be relied upon to complete projects quickly and thoroughly and is just simply a pleasure to work with. The Hershey Public Library is lucky to have Caitlyn and her dedication and positive energy fuels our work. Thank you. On behalf of the parks and recreation department and our membership coordinator, Megan Beal, I would like to lead you through some history of our 2025 PNR employee of the year, Jan Diangelus. Jandy Angelus has proudly served as a front desk attendant for the Hershey Recreation Center from March 18th, 1992 through March 8th, 2019. Following the cent's revival as the Dair Township Community Center, Jan returned to continue her dedicated service to our community starting on May 12th, 2022 prior to the big grand opening in June. In addition to the front desk role, Jan, her husband Bob, and their highly

skilled team have been karate instructors through D'Angelus Karate at the parks and recreation facilities for many years, impacting skill levels of all ages. Together, they have positively impacted countless individuals through their commitment to discipline, wellness, and personal growth. For nearly 31 years, Jan has consistently demonstrated excellent customer service, exceptional reliability, and integrity above all expectations. Jan possesses remarkable interpersonal skills, enabling her to connect effortlessly with members and calmly deescalate even the most challenging situations brought forth at the front desk. She has made a lasting impression not only on the front desk staff and management team, but on the community as a whole. Jan has become a staple at the front desk for so many years that when she has a well-deserved day off, members frequently ask about her absence. She is a role model for new staff and has a been a great trainer for many years as well. Jan has been a wonderful positive asset to the parks and recreation department and we have been honored to have had an employee like her serving the community all these years. Thank you for your commitment, dedication, strong leadership, work ethic, and customer service skills. Congratulations, Jan, on being the Dair Township Parks and Recreation Employee of the Year for 2025. And thank you for all you have done and continue to do for our department. Congratulations.

Great. Thanks. It's my honor to recognize Marica Weldon as the public works department's 2025 employee performance award recipient. This award gives us a chance to recognize someone whose work often happens behind the scenes, but whose impact is felt by everyone in our organization and throughout the community. Last year, I selected the recipient myself. This year, I wanted the process to reflect something even more meaningful, a true jury of peers. So, we asked our team to vote for the person they felt best exemplified dedication, reliability, and commitment to public service. There was just one challenge. That ballot document would normally be drafted by Marissa. Um, but Marica uh would have never put her name on that ballot. That's simply who she is. She's humble. She believes that the work she does somehow takes a backseat to the hard physical work happening out in the field. But as her co-workers made very clear, that couldn't be further from the truth. Marissa Weldon has been a steady and essential part of this township for many years, serving in multiple departments and roles. In public works, she is the person who keeps everything moving. She's here early. She keeps us organized. She makes sure bills are paid, phones are answered, residents are helped, and even those unexpected walk-ins, whether they're residents or sales calls, are handled with professionalism and patience. She makes sure our payroll is accurate, our records are in order, and that the rest of us can do our jobs effectively because she's already taken care of the little details. And while much of her work happens quietly without recognition, it does not go unnoticed. In fact, when the votes were counted,

Marica received three times as many votes as any other nominee. That says everything you need to know about how much her co-workers value and respect her. Marica may not have been thrilled to win this award, but I think it's safe to say this recognition is very welld deserved. And whether she admits it or not, I hope it means a lot to her. Marica, thank you for everything you do for this department and for Dair Township. We truly couldn't function without you. READY? You speaking on behalf of community development, we have chosen Valerie Wood to be our um performance award winner this year. Val transferred to us a few years ago from uh dispatch and I've met few people that can pick up things as quickly as she does. Over the past year, Valerie has taken on significantly more responsibility, increasing her status as a member of the community development team. Her main new contribution has been assuming stormwater management processing responsibilities uh which has uh which she has approached with dedication and a strong commitment to learning the process thoroughly and quickly. Va has also been issuing building and zoning permits for many years and continues to do so with

accuracy and efficiency. In addition, she attends and prepares the minutes for the zoning hearing board and serves as the primary point of contract contact for all firework permits. She helps the code enforcement um efforts to stay organized and on schedule. Um by taking on these expanded duties uh related to stormwater management responsibilities, she has reduced workload pressures on other staff members and help the department maintain consistent service levels during peak periods. In her interactions with the public, Val provides every individual with the respect that they deserve. She has also developed a strong ability to answer many questions from the public independently, drawing confidently on knowledge she has gained from past inquiries and responses. Valerie has proven herself to be a vital part of the team through her outstanding work ethic, her uncanny ability to learn new things, and her consistent willingness to go above and beyond. She is eager to learn new responsibilities, steps ups with steps up without hesitation and does whatever is needed to ensure the success of the department. We are all proud of her dedication, her contributions and the positive impact she has made. Congratulations, Val. Good job.

Just want to say thank you for all those who received appreciation medals. We couldn't have done it without you. All right, moving on to our next order of business. The request for to close Java Avenue between East Aribba Avenue and East Caracus Avenue for the sixth annual Java Palooa. Chief Warner.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A request was received from Dave Weber asking for permission to hold a block party on Java Avenue. The event is called Java Palooa and Weber has requested Java Avenue between East Aribba Avenue and East Caracus Avenue to be closed to traffic. Actually, West Arriva Avenue, sorry. Um, the festivities will include live bands, food trucks, and activities for adults and children. The date of the block party is June 27th, 2026 from 12:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. Normally, block parties are evaluated by the police department and if deemed acceptable are approved by the department director. Due to the larger nature of this block party and the entire community being invited to it, we thought it appropriate to bring this before the board of supervisors for approval. This has become an annual event and no issues have been reported or observed uh during this event. An onduty community service officer will be available to monitor vehicular and pedestrian traffic in and around the event.

Thank you, Chief Warner. Are there any questions or concerns? Do I have a motion? I move that we request the request to close Jabba Avenue from East Aribba to East Caracus on June 27th from 12 to 10 p.m. for Jaba Palooa is hereby approved. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor? I

opposed hearing none. The motion carries. Next order of business. Consideration of resolution 2026-12 disposi disposition of public records in accordance with township of dairy resolution 319 and the municipal records act of 1968 as amended. Mr. Jackson,

thank you. Per local government commission records retention and disposition schedule, Dair Township is required to keep seven years of financial documentation. Therefore, documents from the finance office and tax association from years 2018 and prior are eligible to be shredded. These include accounts payable and receivable, payroll, bank statements, receipts, bills, collection reports, check stubs, and month-end reports. Additionally, we have personnel records which are required to be retained for five years that are also ready for disposal. If approved this evening, these documents will be shredded at the township shredded event on April 18th.

Okay. Are there any questions or concerns? I hear a motion. I move that the board of supervisors approve resolution 202612, disposition of public records in accordance with the township of dairy resolution 319 and the municipal records act of 68 as amended. Thank you, Miss Ballard. Is there a second? I'll second. Thank you, Mr. Myers. All those in favor? I opposed. Hearing none. Motion carries. Next order of business, proclamation proclaiming April 24th, 2026.

Here, the elected body of the municipality must pass a proclamation establishing a day of Arbor Day observance within the municipality. For 33 years, the township has applied to the National Arbor Day Foundation for Tree City USA status. The ch township has been successful in obtaining this status due in part to the board of supervisors as well as staff's commitment to make every effort to preserve the urban forest and beautify Dair Township. It is my recommendation that the proclamation be adopted by the board of supervisors. Thank you, Mr. Watts. Are there any questions or concerns? Hearing none. Do I hear a motion?

I'll move that the board of supervisors of Dair County proclaim the last Friday in April, that being April 24th, 2026, the the official day for observance of Harbor Day in Derry Township. Thank you, Mr. Push. Do I hear a second? Thank you very much, Miss Ballard. All those in favor? I opposed hearing none. The motion carries. Mr. Chair, one one mo movement before we move on. I just want to let know everyone know that uh Derry Township environmental action team will be planting street trees I believe on the 11th at this point. Uh possibly a rain day will be the weekend after. Uh just if anyone wants to really dive into their Arbor Day celebrations. They'll be out there.

Uh Becky, are you here? Where are you? She's not here. Say if we can post that on She's on the right hand side. Oh, there you are. If we can post that on the newsletter, please. Thank you very much. Okay. Our next order of business, the adoption of decision for conditional use application number 2025-09 as filed by Nick Kelly Properties LLC regarding the property located at 55 Ethel Avenue home.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As was explained at the public hearing held February 24th, 2026, Michael Kelly on behalf of Nick Kelly uh Nick Kelly Properties LLC is proposing to establish a short-term rental at 55 Ethl Avenue. The application and testimony appeared to address the conditions of the conditional use requirements. The attached decision was drafted by Peter Nelson and reviewed by township staff recommending oh I'm sorry the dairy tension planning commission at their meeting of February 3rd 2026 recommended that the conditional use also be granted with conditions those conditions are included in the attached decision. Uh I'm recommending that the decision for conditional use application number 202509 be adopted as written. Are there any questions or concerns with this

hearing? None. Do I hear a motion? I'll make a motion that the decision of conditional use application number 2025-09 is hereby adopted. Thank you, Mr. Curado. Do I hear a second? I'll second. Thank you, Mr. Belalushi. All those in favor? I opposed hearing none. The motion carries. Okay, our next order of business, I think that's what a lot of us here are here for. The preliminary fine final land development plan for Hershey Islamic Center. Uh Mr. Emer,

thank you. This plan was filed by the Hershey Islamic Center. It represents the development of approximately 9.5 acre tract of land fronting on uh Stoddale Road. Uh plat 1391 was tabled by the planning commission on August 6, November 5th, and March 4th. That's 2024 to 2025. Uh the plan was ultimately recommended for approval by the planning commission at their meeting on May 6th of 2025. Uh the plan was last presented to the board of supervisors at their September 9th, 2025. concerns about the proposed school worship center and being utilized at the same time with limited parking which was 95 spaces at the time uh supporting it. The board also of the existing narrow Stoverdale road to serve all three uses. The applicant has since revised the plan to remove the school and multi-purpose center and expanded the parking area to accommodate 128 parking spaces. They are still seeking the waiver request to not widen Stoverdale Road. If the board chooses to grant the road widening waiver request, it should be granted as a deferment. The site is located in our conservation zoning district. The revised proposed use is classified as a worship center, which is a permitted use in that district. Uh plat 1391 now proposes the construction of a single building uh containing approximately 9,580 square ft. Uh the worship center is proposed to accommodate up to 300 persons. The applicant's parking requirement uh cited on the plan are based on the 300 fixed seat worship center which would require 100 parking spaces. It's my understanding however that the worship center will not have fixed seating. I

also understand that the actual portion of the building dedicated to the worship center is 3,000 square feet um of non-fixed seating area which would only require 60 parking spaces by our ordinance. Uh as I mentioned, the plan does now propose 128 which should be ample parking. Additionally, the transportation impact study indicates a 300 seat mosque which would require the 100 parking spaces instead of the 60. Uh the transportation impact study um was originally provided with uh plat 1387 which was with withdrawn. The traffic uh study has been revised. facility is projected now to generate 21 new trips during the work weekday am peak hour which was formerly 233 new trips during the weekday PM peak hour trips and 153 during the Friday peak hour which remains unchanged that is the primary worship hour um the with the proposed change to the building. The total daily count of traffic is estimated to be 270 trips, which was formerly 1,1 trips. Um, the following two items were also removed from the traffic impact study recommendation in the latest version. Um, one was that, uh, as requested by the township, the applicant should coordinate with PENDOT and install advanced left turn phasing vehicle and pedestrian in the former former traffic study that noted that the applicant should provide a fair share contribution to Derry Township toward the construction cost of

the future traffic signal at the intersection of Middletown Road. they were removed from the traffic impact study due to the um rather substantial reduction of of traffic. This project was also presented to the board of supervisors at their March 20 25 meeting for the sole purpose of determining if the board of supervisors wanted a second access point. Uh that access point has added to the plan as a gated um pvious pavement entrance. Public water and sewer facilities uh will be provided. A 12-in water man is proposed to be extended in Stoddale Road from a 16-inch water man um west of the site. Sewer is proposed by connection to the existing sewer main along Stoverdale Road and two additional manholes are to be provided. Uh they are also um running gas service to the to the site. Storm water management is proposed by a collection and conveyance system to detention areas under the parking areas and a bio retention area on the east side of the site with discharges to the unnamed tributary to Sueder Creek. The applicant has asked for some waivers and deferments as part of this plan. They've asked for a waiver from showing meets and bounds on street center lines. The planning commission did recommend that that waiver be granted. They've asked for a waiver regarding street right-of-way dedication. That was done to match the existing dedication that was done when the sheets was put in. It's a one- foot deviation from our standard that was recommended by the planning commission as well. They've asked for waiverss of uh plan scales for showing um the profiles for uh all of

the utilities or water lines or sewer lines to the to the property that those waiverss be granted the cartway width along the north side of Stoverdale Road. And I'll say again that if the board uh decides to to wave the widening with the standard uh declaration of covenants that the township requires for deferments. They've asked for a waiver of cur existing roads and that again is related to Stoverdale Road and there's a recommendation again that those would be included as part of a deferment figuring that if the roads wided it widened it would be curbed. Finally, they've does have a a small stream by it, make it extremely difficult to put sidewalks in. And to the east of this property, there is not much potential for intense development. What the applicant has done in lie of putting the sidewalks along Stoddale Road is they have provided a connect sidewalk through their site down to the sidewalk at the Sheets property. and um they are also offering the fee in lie of dedication for the sidewalk installation. In that case, the planning commission recommended that the waiver be granted. Um if the board is inclined to approve plat 1391, that approval should be conditioned upon the 25 items in my staff comments being satisfactorily addressed, which if desired, I'm happy to summarize. That it.

That's it. Thank you, Mr. Emer. Can we have the applicant up here, please? Good evening, Chad Zimmerman from uh Dwood Engineering. How you doing, Mr. Zimmerman? Not too bad. Good. Good to hear. Are there any questions from the board?

I question. I think I probably Mr. This is the this this plan predates obviously majority of this board. Um and the this plan that's before us tonight is the seventh or eth? That's correct. And and is it safe to say that that this plan that's before us tonight is a shadow of many of the plans that were previously submitted?

There have been many changes of this project over the course of its uh existence with with Derry Township. The project started out of course with the three buildings and a single means of ingress and egress. Um, there was a plan that was submitted that showed a connection to the Sheets property instead of Stoverdale Road. Uh, there was a plan that showed a the emergency access as a grass pave driveway that has since been changed to um porest pavement and of course we are down to one single building and a lot less traffic. So yes, it it has gone through an evolution. Rob.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess my question is the the capacity what the current I guess congregation that will be worshiping at the center uh and kind of capacity for growth that's built into the uh right now there's there's no there's no additional um even capacity in terms of storm water or for the the

the worship center like are you at going to need a larger site in a couple years or like what kind of do you expectation of growth would you imagine? It's uh um permitted for 300 uh people basically to go in and worship at a time. Um that's where it's standing. No, I don't at this stage we do not have any time any any thoughts on on additions you know we're getting through this stage and if we come back in um and say hey we you know they feel there's additional needing then we'll come back in with another plan. But um one of the things they can do and I can let Sah speak to this um not everybody comes there on Friday all at once spread out through the day. So even though there's 300 potentially at one time that could last you know there could be 300 people maybe some people come early in the morning depending on schedules. Um so expansion is probably not on the top of everybody's list right now. Uh but I mean maybe in the future but that's to be to be determined. You're good. You're good. Um, I'm actually Mike and I are two of the last surviving supervisors from the previous board. Um, I find it hard to believe that there's no consideration or thoughts about expanding this down the road.

Honestly, right now there isn't. Okay. be because mainly because the way it was originally planned to us for that lot, it was pretty grandiose and I I think we can agree that there was a little too much there. Um there's a lot of stuff going on. I'm not unhappy about this plan. I'm I'm happier that it it fits better, it flows better, it looks better. So, I'm okay with that. Um, are there other are there are there other purposes for this worship center that are going to be utilized? Uh, education, celebrations, weddings.

My name is Sad AF. I'm one of the board members of the HIC. We do not have any educational plans at this moment. No. No. You're going to have celebrations etc. There this is one. We have two celebrations once a year. That's it. All right. I'm not being I'm not criticizing. I'm just asking. This are religious celebrations that we have twice a year. And that's understand. Um is there going to be adequate lighting in the parking lot? I I don't think the drawings uh the drawings that I saw didn't. There should be a lighting plate on page 27. Must have missed that one.

Oh, at the end or I assume they're downward facing. Yes. Okay. All righty. Thank you. And let's see what I got here. I think that's all the questions I have. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Mr.

I have one more for Chuck. Uh when you're talking about the deferment, I guess what would trigger the I guess the need for them to revisit the the widening just the expansion of the plan, another land development plan being submitted,

another land development plan could trigger it. Um there could be other influences. Uh the adjacent property to the south of this is presently undeveloped. I could see where in the future if that would become developed. Depending on where they would put their driveway, it may make sense to um widen along this frontage. Although I would be hopeful if they put a driveway to the adjacent property that would line up with the entrance to the commercial center. I think those will be the two triggers.

The deferment will be subject to a declaration of covenants that we'll record against the property. And when we draft those, we leave it pretty much wide open. If the township for any reason determines that it's necessary, we'll call the applicant or the property owner to require the widening at that time. utilizing this parcel as supporting center is permissive use under that's correct

is the project paid for by like annual contributions monthly is it a timing situation seems like a good project yeah we are a nonprofit organization so we collect funs on a daily basis. We have online donations, pledges, and this is day in day out kind of thing business for us. Thank you. Thank you. But you're up. Will the Hummelstown facility still be open or will this be a replacement for that one? Well, once we have this that will be closed, vended place. So that will be closed.

Any more questions? You have a comment? Just just a few. Uh, so it's just now a worship center. No more school, no more community center. Correct. Okay. And then I'm just gonna if you could describe because I do remember the board the concern was the the access ways. So if you just want to describe for the one's an emergency access, right? And the other one is the primary.

Maybe just take the board through those quickly because I do remember that being a a conversation when it was first presented. So, if you're looking at the plan, the the driveway entrance on the right, that will be a full movement uh entrance left and right out. So, right there, this is where Chuck pointing. And then if you go to the left of the that is a access drive emergency, it will be gated. A key will be provided to um unnecessary parties. And if let's say the primary entrance becomes blocked during a fire or something of that nature, the secondary entrance will be utilized at a fire truck. All any type of apparat

the building a fire e other emergency. Yeah, we provided I think we have two we have access to both sides. I think there was a potential access quest to go around the building. Um at this at this stage we felt that wasn't necessary. Right. And I if I could I think a lot of the school because the building has to be over 40 feet before we require access to tides. I do have one more quick question.

Does this worship center will it conduct any of this or exclusively worship uh administration in what sense for example I mean is there an office anticipated that would be phone calls things like that send out mail things

we we'll we will have it if we need it but right now we operate as a mosque but we could have a small office just for so we can take calls as you're saying and mail out things but everything right now is electronic everything is online so we hardly operate at this moment even to everything goes through laptops or online social media and stuff so any more questions la last one for me so you are requesting the the fee in lie of for the sidewalk right offering offering offering

I when you when you zoomed in I it dawned on me but there is you're als also proposing the sidewalk connection from I guess the parking lot area to the is it the sheets? Yeah, sidewalk to the bottom corner. Correct. Okay. All right, that's it. Thank you. You sure you're done? You sure? Can I bet on that? All right. Um I'd like to make a motion if I may.

Please, Miss Ballard, make a motion. I would like to move that the waiverss and a deferment are granted from the subdivision and land development ordinance chapter 185 as noted in the explanation section of this agenda item for the preliminary final subdivision plan for the Islamic center plot 1391 specifically regarding number item six in the waiver request. Uh the roadway widening is granted as a deferment as was discussed. Thank you, Miss Ballard. Is there a second? I'll second motion. Thank you, Miss Mr. Myers. All those in favor?

I I opposed hearing none. First motion carries. Uh, I'll make the second motion that the preliminary final subdivision plan for the Hershey Islamic Center Plat 1391 is approved subject to compliance with items 1 through 24 and department recommendation sections of this agenda item. Thank you, Mr. Myers. Do I hear a second? Thank you, Miss Ballard. And all those in favor? I opposed hearing none. The motion carries. Congratulations, folks. Thank you. Thank you very much. Mubarak everyone.

Okay, our next order of business, and as everybody knows, this is always my favorite. Consideration of a fifth time extension for conditional approval of the preliminary final land development and storm water site management plan for Oak Springs Phase 3 building expanse 1227. Mr. Emerch, thank you. Wait a minute. Hold on a sec. Is the Is the applicant here? Yes.

Could you step up? Okay. Go ahead, Chuck. Uh plat 1227 was submitted in uh 2013 under the 1993 zoning ordinance. The subject property is located in the suburban residential zoning district. It contains approximately 2.71 acres. The site is presently improved with two buildings and each containing six townhouse dwelling units, parking areas, including a detached carport structure and the driveway that provides access to the building and parking areas. The project proposes construction of a new residential building containing six additional town home uh dwelling units. Each dwelling unit will contain approximately 1500 square feet of floor area. Burn court will be extended to provide access to the new building. The extension will include space for 12 uh parking uh vehicles and will terminate in a proposed culde-sac. Burnc court will continue to serve as a driveway and will not be proposed for dedication as a public street. This development obviously has a long history. Uh the development was first depicted on an approved subdivision plan subdivision and site plan for the village of Insbrook phase six plat 704A in 1993. Um subsequent revisions uh were submitted and approved under plat 731 in 1995 and plat 855 in 1999. A total of 18 dwelling units were proposed by plat 855, but only the 12 that exist there today were constructed. As a result of a zoning change to the suburban residential classification, the attached single density on the lot was also significantly change. Since the zoning change no

longer permitted town houses, the applicant did file a variance request with the zoning hearing board on April 19th, 2011 to permit construction of the third townhouse building. The hearing board by their decision uh granted the relief for three requests. A special exception for the expansion of a non-conforming use to include the six additional dwelling units. A variance for residential density to be at 6.64 64 dwelling units per acre and a variance for the minimum vegetative coverage to be at 50%. The relief granted is valid so long as this plan has been active. So since 2011 board of supervisors initially initially approved this plan in 2013 condition items being addressed. The board most recently extended um provide an extension request on November 25th, 2025. Again, subject to items being addressed no later than April 15th, which date is closely approaching. Um to date, conditions one and four of the extended approval have been addressed. The applicant has requested a fifth time of fifth time extension until July 14th, 2026. I believe we probably recommended the 90 days. They are so close to the finish line uh to address the outstanding conditions of the November 20 uh 5th, 2025 extended approval. The fifth extension uh proposes no changes to the details of the previously approved plan or the waiverss that were granted. If the board decides to extend the approval of plat 1227, uh the extension should be conditioned upon the items listed in my staff comments. eight items.

Thank you, Mr. Emer. Thank you. You know how I love these things, but it looks like I Stop me if I'm incorrect that we're at fault for some of this. I believe there's two items five and six and O and M agreement. Where are we with that? I believe the uh O andM has been returned to the applicant uh recently. Um there is still Yeah, I think this the performance security agreement is that's his problem, not yours. So we've taken care of our share,

I believe. So no. Okay. I'd seen some interchange um going back and forth. So but we're working on it. Okay. So, and are you going to have any trouble coming up with the performance security? You want Do I need to be sworn in? No. Okay. No. Okay. We already have an agreement with a lender. Okay. Okay. So, how confident are you that you're going to meet the July 14th date? Very confident. Or am I going to see you back here in the end of June? Promise. Promise. You owe me a beer if I see you again. All righty. That's all the questions I have. Anybody else have any questions, concerns?

I have a statement. Pursuant of Pennsylvania's public office and employee ethics laws, I hear I think I have to declare myself to abstain from this because Evans Engineering who did the plan is now been absorbed into RTU. Uh so unfortunately, I don't think I can voice my opinion, although I do want to because I live in this neighborhood. After the meeting, anybody else have any questions or concerns? Uh I may follow up with Chuck. Um, so this was from 2013 before 2011 depending on before then. So it was conditionally approved by the board in 2013. It's a land development and storm water management agreement or storm water management plan.

The on andm agreement has been referenced. Um, do we need to look into a development and financial security agreement? I suspect we unless it's already been prepared and circulated is that was probably before my time. Has anything been we gave it to the lender and now it's going to delay it because if they have to re-review it if you have to review it and then they have to re review it again. I'll take a look at it but I'm not going to I won't try throw. So this is so there's an improvement agreement accounting for the financial security that's going to be posted. Yes. And the O andM agreement is um the form that the township had used in the past, right?

Okay. Okay. No, I will try not to I you don't owe me a beer if you're not if you're here again. I'll make a motion that the approval of the preliminary final land development storm water site management plan for Oak Springs phase 3 bill in an expansion plat 1227 is extended to July 14th 2026 subject to compliance with one items 1 through 8 in the department recommendations section. Thank you Miss Ballard. Is there a second? Second.

Thank you Mr. Curado. Appreciate that. All those in favor? I I opposed hearing none. The motion carries. Thank you, gentlemen. Hopefully I don't have to see you again. Might be for some other Oh, if it's for something else, that's entirely okay. I think I'm going to be here on April 14th. And that's fine, too. To clarify for the record that I did abstain from that. Oh, that's right. So it was four to four to nothing approval

and one extension. Okay. Our last order of business. Uh let's see. Additional waiver requests regarding the preliminary final subdivision plan for Felty Mill Land Company LLC plat 1416. Mr. Emer. Again,

this plan should feel more familiar to the sitting board. Um this plan proposes the subdivision of just about 50 uh 42 acres into six slots. The small slots 1.6 acres and the largest lot is 9.98 acres. The board of supervisors um granted nine waivers and conditionally approved this plan on February 10th, 2026. On February 25th, after having received their letter of conditional approval, uh the applicant requested an additional waiver from the subdivision and land development ordinance in uh conjunction with this plan. They've asked for a waiver of um aquafer and water quality tests. Um the planning commission recommended that the waiver be granted based in large part on support from HRG as noted in the attached uh email from HRG. If the board desires to approve the requested waiver um regarding aquifer and water quality test for the plan, the approval should be conditioned upon the applicant adding the waiver to the list of waiverss and modifications on sheet one of nine of the preliminary plan preliminary final plan and also providing satisfactory water samples uh to the township prior to the issuance of any of the certificate of occupancies for any of the new homes. Thank you, Mr. Emer. Is the applicant here?

Would you like to step up in case we have some questions for you, please? Fox. What's that? John Fox. John, that was a tough name. Can you spell that? No, I got it. I got it. Thank you, Mr. Fox. All right. Does the board have any questions? I actually have a couple of questions. Yeah. Um, the aquafer that we're talking is there an aquifer under the ground underground in this location? Uh we don't think so. You don't think so or you don't know or there isn't? Uh we don't have any evidence of any. We have that we haven't done any testing. That's what we're asking the waiver for. Okay. Well, I see there's approval if you give satisfactory water samples. Yeah. So, and where are you going to do that? I'm sorry.

And if there's no particular place for this water aquifer or wells as you're calling, where would you do this testing? So, uh I'm a land developer, but I'm also a custom home builder. Okay. built. Um I spelled it out for you. Oh yeah. So you did, didn't you?

Yep. Um, so probably over half the homes we build are estatesized homes on estateized lots, which means well and septic. Our standard practice at Fox Built is when we build our homes, aside from anything that we've agreed to with, uh, with N Township, our standard is before a homeowner moves in, um, well is drilled, uh, house is almost finished, plumbing faucets are installed, and we get a water test from the kitchen sink, and we take that out for testing. Um, well, first of all, I should say, um, any of our homes that have wells, we automatically do a, uh, UV light and filter. We just include that in our builds. Um, after, uh, like I said, after the faucets are installed, we get a water sample from the kitchen sink. This is our standard practice as a as a builder. We take that off uh, we we send that out for testing to see if there's anything else in the water, and if there is, then we make those accommodations um, prior to our homeowners moving in. So, we asked for a waiver for the aquifer testing. Uh, one thing that came up at planning commission, right? No, actually, we didn't even it didn't even come out because we we recommended that we would add that we would be providing you providing township prior to issuance of certificate of occupancy. We would issue you a clean water report because we do it anyway. So, we threw that in saying, "Hey, in lie of doing the water test, we're going to even we're even going to show you our clean water uh certificate showing that there is no issue."

And that's for each of the homes. For each of the homes. That's right. Okay. Uh and your water testing takes care of both organics and chemical. That's right. Yeah. That's why we test it before the homeowner moves in. Okay.

So, and like I said, that's our standard practice anyway. Part of our request for the waiver was the fact that these lots were so large. I mean, it's an average of seven acres per lot. Um, when we even reached out to some of our water testing companies, they were surprised that it would have been required for this size because the township, your ordinance has written any subdivision over five lots, which in my opinion that seems a little odd because if you had a 500 acre farm and you subdivided into 500 acre lots, the way your ordinance reads, they need to all get aquaer testing, which seems odd on a 100acre lot. um our water companies don't see much of that request for anything over an acre and our average lot size is seven. So it just seemed to be not necessary and because of our standard practice as a builder anyway, we were saying, "Hey, we'll go above and beyond and show you those claim reports before people even are issued their CO."

Okay, great. Thanks for the explanation, Mr. Fox. I appreciate that. Sure thing. I'm now I'm educated. All right. Are there any other questions or concerns about this? All the lots in Dair Township. Yes sir. Intersection of Felony Mill and Stock Trade. Um so does Fely Mill Land Company LLC own all 41.99 acres? Uh yes. Okay. Yeah. And the plan is to build uh six homes. Yes. Um only 31.6 six are net develop developable papers once you subtract out steep slopes and wetlands

and I don't want to sound too invasive but public's entitled to know I mean what's the plan with the with the uh the barn

um so uh I think I was quoted at the last meeting as saying we would either tear it down or rebuild it um I don't think rebuilding it's in the cards so both that and the existing house as it stands right now. My intent is to tear both down and that lot would be turned into a that's the 1.6 or 1.7 acre lot. Um my intent at this point is to make that a clear building lot. It just doesn't seem feasible to fix up either. If someone came in and had a totally different idea, could that change perhaps? But as it stands right now, that is not my plan. So

I have a question. Uh, so this is an old farm, I'm assuming. I haven't been out to the site, but since there's a barn, I'm assuming there was it was probably at one point a farm. What would happen? Say there was an old old unknown dump site that has, I don't know, ruined the aquafer out there and you got through and you poured that first cup and it came out and it was just just awful and you can't address it. Then what happens then? Well, I don't know. I mean, we're we can't get our CO without a clean water bill. uh clean water certificate. So, um we're going have to figure something out. But I mean, I'm assuming you've never had that's never occurred where you've did the water sample and it's just like grid unusable water.

No, like I said, average lot size is seven acres out there. So, I suppose if that happened, one option would be to redraw a well. So, these uh lots, most of them are seven to 10 acres. Six six to 10 acres, I should say. Okay, that's all I have. All right. Any additional questions? Just uh has HRG does HRG have a position or concern with the waiver?

Uh they do not um they're they are supportive of the waiver based on the the size of the lots. They did um note in their report that they would not support the waiver for water quality testing. And as uh John Fox has testified, he is providing water quality testing. I saw that.

All right. Sounds like that's it. Do I hear a motion? I'll move that the requesting waiver from section 185-39 subdivision and land development ordinance regarding aquifer and water quality test for the preliminary/final subdivision plan for mill land company LLC 5416 is approved with the stipulations that the applicant adds the waiver to the list of requests and modifications on chief one of nine of the preliminary final subdivision plan that satisfactory water samples are provided to the township prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy for any. Thank you, Mr. Pushi. Do I hear a second? Second.

Thank you, Miss Ballard. All those in favor? I opposed hearing none. Motion carries. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yep. Congratulations. That concludes our agenda for the evening, which moves us on to our Let's see here. What do we got next? our board and department head reports. I will start at my left hand side with Mr. Belalushi. What do you got?

Uh good evening. We had a rather lengthy traffic committee meeting this morning. Um the cold weather is delayed Bridge Road. Uh, but I saw them out there today working on curbs and they are finishing curbs and uh, sidewalks and I think the anticipated completion date is by right around the 15th of April, not sooner. Um, there was an issue with regard to a contractor nicking the corner of a small gas line in front of Tikash. I think the public is aware of that. I was concerned about that was addressed immediately. Um and uh we had a lengthy conversation also this morning with Glen Row who is uh the pedestrian bike advisor who participated with the traffic committee meeting this morning was very helpful.

That's it. Thank you, Mr. Bush. Mr. Curado, welcome back from your vacation. Moving to my left, Miss Ballard. Um, we had a library board meeting and uh, I was uh, very impressed. The staff created several updated policies um, including providing for consideration of AI generated novels and books. Something we're going to have to think about. So, thank you for being proactive on that. Thank you, Miss Bard. Mr. Myers, I have nothing to report at this point. That's surprising.

I know. And I have nothing to report because Mr. Belushi did a masterful job in reporting a meeting that I also attended this morning. All right, moving on to our department reports. Chief Warner, you're up to bat. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have nothing further to report tonight. Wow. Miss Jacobine, uh, I want

What's the library got to offer? I wanted to make everyone know um aware that the library will be closed on Saturday, April 4th and we're currently selling tickets for the Friends of the Libraryies um upcoming Kate Quinn author visit. She we'll be welcoming her on April 11th to the Hershey High School for the annual distinguished author visit. Very much looking forward to that. We've sold about 350 tickets so far, so it's going very well. Thank you, Miss Jackine. Miss Walker,

parks and wreck. Uh a reminder that our 40th annual egg hunt will takes place at Shank Park this Saturday, March 28th. It will begin first hunt will begin at 10:00 a.m. Um and I also want to give a shout out to our event sponsors. They really helped make this happen. So the Hershey fire department for delivering the money, the Hershey Company for donating candy, the Leader Center for Active Life for filling approximately 10,000 eggs. Neil FA and Seaside Amusements for donating plush prizes and Hershey Federal Credit Union for providing event uh decorations. So very much looking forward to this and hope to see everyone out um at Shank Park on Saturday. And then if you have free time tomorrow, I encourage you to come out um for ribbon cutting for the AED that's been placed at the outdoor courts at the community center. The ribbon training will be taking place at 11:00 a.m. followed by a CPR demo in the party room of the community center and that's open free to the public. Um, open to come. We just ask that you check in with the front desk when you arrive for the demo.

Okay. I will be there. Thank you, Miss Walker. Mr. Sassman, I have nothing for this evening. Thank you. There weren't any fires or anything going on? They'll have two weeks. Come on.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Watts. What do you got for us? Uh this may be a little premature, but after our transportation meeting this morning, um I did receive some emails uh of a another closure of the Ridge Road underpass, but just temporarily for like two days. I believe it's happening Monday and Tuesday next week. Um it's for the Hershey Lumberyard uh sanitary sewer tie-in. Um, so I think it was originally supposed to start uh two Mondays from now, but I believe it's I believe it's this coming Monday. We'll put something out on e-news um on the township website alerting

residents of that closure, but I know it's been a hot topic. So, little advanced notice there. I believe it's Monday, Tuesday, next week. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Watts. HRG. Mr. Stump. Nothing to report tonight. You never have any. Why you even bother showing up? You have nothing to report. Chuck, what do you got for us? I need to schedule a hearing um for the for the uh text amendment related to um Phoenix Rehab and Health Services. Okay. I'd like to schedule that for Tuesday, May 12th. That's a regular evening at 6:30. May 12th.

May 12th. Well, if we're all going to be here, I'm sure we're going to make it. Is that a 6 or 6:30? Did you say 6:30? 6:30. Sounds fair enough. Is that it? And oh,

if you don't know, David, this is David's last week. I want to publicly thank him for letting me harass him and train him and and uh send him off to a brand new job where he'll have 15 commissioners. I knew Dave I knew Dave was leaving and I didn't know this was the last one. I am I apologize profusely. I had no time to work up one of my famous speeches. So I'll try to write something up and send it to you. He is leaving with you a gift. Mr. Jackson, what do you got for us?

Uh nothing for me other than uh thank you to Dave. Um we know you're going to do great things. So congratulations to you and uh wish you all the best. Yeah, I'd like to echo those comments there. Thanks very much. Thank you. You'll be missed. All right, that ends our uh board and department reports. Is our last session for public comment. If anyone would like to get up and speak, feel free.

Good evening. Brian Proctor, 2011 School Plaza, Hershey, Pennsylvania. So, first I want to talk about plowing on school plaza. I've lived there for about four years. I've been seeing my girl, well, my wife now for six. Um, probably saw plow two times that I've been living there. And I know about secondary roads and primary roads. So, I know all about how that works. Um, if it wouldn't be for Espen Shade, we probably wouldn't be plowed out most of the time because they plow out the school. So, I just want some help. Bruno's my neighbor. He bought the house behind me. So, him and I talk regularly. So, I just want some help. You know, I'm not here to point fingers. I was an elected official for 10 years. So, I get it. I'm not, you know, I'm not here to criticize. Not here to do anything. I know a lot of you guys are new. I talk to Bruno a lot. So, I I get it. You know, I don't have any problem with that. Um, also, uh, East Caracus Avenue.

East. How far east? Well, the Lutheran church, 743 Lutheran Church, Bruno's House, East Caracus Avenue. Okay,

so long story short, I'm just asking like, okay, so they redid the theater. Theat's open now. Come home for work today. That's why I'm here because I'm kind of upset. Come home from work today. I have nowhere to park. Theat's open. Nowhere to park. Everybody that's going to the theater has now parked in our whole neighborhood, but there's open spots in the theater parking lot that they just repaved and made beautiful and everything. I can send it to Bruno. can send it to all you guys because again I talk to Bruno all the time because I'm like so the only thing I'm asking is maybe we can make that permit parking for residents and I'll pay $50 or whatever it takes whatever the cost is to make it permit parking for residents from 5 to 10 weekdays or whatever the case may be. But I can't come home as a taxpayer and we don't rent. We own our home. So, I can't come home as a taxpayer and you guys are possibly going to raise taxes and I can't come home as a taxpayer and there's open spots in that brand new lot and not be able to park. And I get up at 5:45 in the morning and go to work every day. So, I got to move my car because I can't park in the school lot because I want those people who go to work every day to have their parking spot as well. So, I got to get up, move my car, park on the street, and then go back to bed. That's That's not fair. That's not fair. I get we're a tourist town. I want all the tourism. I'm all for it. I am. I get it. But that's not fair. So, the only thing I'm asking, can we work with something? Can we come up with a plan? I don't know who the public works chair is. I'll talk to him. We can talk offline. whatever the case may be. But can we

come up with a plan? Can we work on something? That's all I'm asking. That's all I'm asking. I'm not trying to be hostile. I'm not trying to be confrontational. That's the last thing I'm trying to be. Just make sure we all understand that Chuck knows me. I'm not trying to be that way. Chuck, can you help Mr. Crockett at all? at least give him some information pertaining to this, please. Yeah, there's your first step. Yeah, that's that's fine. Whatever we need to do is whatever we need to do. I I can't say what we do, but I think Mr. Emer would be a good first step.

That's fine. Whatever way you can point me. One other thing, I think that uh Miss Amy, I think we're missing the mark. I said to Mr. Bruno, I went to Camp Hill. They had a they had a great St. Patrick's Day event. They had hundreds of people, maybe even thousands of people over there. I think maybe, you know, you guys redid the square downtown, the uh Veterans Memorial down there. Maybe you guys could have something St. Patrick's Day weekend or something like that and get some food trucks and maybe have, you know, you put a burglar or something like that in there. Maybe, you know, have something like that in there for St. Patrick's Day because I went to the fresh market. A lot of people were dressed up in St. Patrick's gear trying to do a bar crawl and stuff, but there wasn't really much for him to do. So maybe, you know, do something like that. I'm just, you know, saying I'm not Yeah. No, I'm not, you know, I'm not throwing shade or anything, but I'm just saying, you know, but Mr. Garf, your your wife teaches in Stilton.

Yeah. All right. I'm a roller. So good. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. But that's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Crockett for coming and speaking your mind. All right. Anybody else? Seeing none. Motion to adjourn. Seconded. Made and seconded. Meeting's closed. Have a nice evening, folks.