California Identification Remote Access Network - Regular Meeting

We'll start our meeting at 10.04. And thank you for all the printed materials, because I totally forgot mine on the printer.

And I don't have my glasses, so sorry.

OK. Can we do the roll call, please?

We've got Mark.

Thank you.

Kathy. Here for the last time.

Oh, you're going to miss us. Oh, I am. I miss you. Just adjusting to the changes.

It takes a while. Shelly? Here. Patty? Here. Heather? Here. How are you, Heather?

Can you hear me? Yes. Can you hear us? I can hear you guys. I'm just still trying to figure out the video.

Oh, okay. Oh, she's on this first five.

Are you in a different office? No, I'm in the same office, but a different assistant setting it up for me. So we're just still figuring it out. Okay. I will promote you to panelists. Thank you.

Okay. Stephanie?

Here.

Misha? Kelly. Are you Kelly too? Kelly K. That's me. Shannon. Here. Alan.

Here.

And Kelly N. Here. All right. We have a quorum.

Thanks all for being here. Okay. So let's adopt it.

Move for the adoption.

Thank you, ladies. Okay, and we need a roll call vote on that.

A motion to approve the consent calendar. Mark?

Yes.

Kathy? Yes. Shelly? Yes. Patty? Yes. Heather? Heather? We'll get back to Heather. Stephanie? Yes. Kelly Kaye? Yes, I. Shannon? Yes. Alan?

Yes.

And Kelly N. Yes. Okay. Heather? Oh, there you are.

Yeah, when you promoted me, it just, it takes time to reload. I say, yeah.

Okay. Motion approved. Oh, Amisha's here.

Okay.

Did everybody have a chance to review the minutes? Can I get a motion to your privilege?

Make a motion to review the minutes that's written. Second.

Okay. Mark? Yes.

Kathy? I'm staying. I was not here.

Shelly? Yes. Patty?

Yes.

Heather? Yes. Stephanie? Yes. Misha. Kelly Kay.

Yes.

Shannon. Yes. Alan.

Yeah.

And Kelly Ent. I wasn't here. Motion approved.

Thank you. Moving on to open forum.

It forms an opportunity for members of the public to address the council on subject matter that is not on their meeting agenda and within their jurisdiction. Public comments during open forum are limited to three minutes per person. The council chair may limit public comment during open forum.

And we have no members of the public here or online. I'm kidding.

Okay, thank you. All right, so the community services report out, please.

Good morning. So you have the report before you. I'll just highlight a couple of things, and then I wanted to add something that wasn't in here. Community services block grant, we're just closing out the 25 contract and starting to more fully spend the 26 contract. So we often have overlapping CSBG funds. But the good news is the state did receive funding from the federal government and then was able to release more to us and increase our authorization for CSBG. So that's great news. Those are always kind of moments where you take a deep breath and just hope everything goes as it should, that the funding keeps flowing. So we're happy that that is in place. Senior of the Year, what a lovely event that the Commission on Aging does and sponsors and just put a what is the phrase, a bug in your ear? Is that the right phrase for next year? To be thinking of seniors in El Dorado County that you might want to nominate for Senior of the Year. It's really a wonderful opportunity. This year there were five nominees, I believe, and the winner, John Marchant, is 95 years old and has been volunteering with the Sheriff's Office. And um, just a lovely event goes before the board of supervisors and each nominee is a nice little bio, um, given, uh, said about them. And then the winner is announced. The chair announces it with a drum roll. John was surprised. He didn't even know why he was coming over that day. So he was just delighted to have won. And I don't know, I don't think people could see it because of the cameras, but he was looking, I was right in front of him, just a huge smile on his face. So it was really quite lovely. Um, and then a great reception afterwards. So Keep that in mind for next year, because you guys are well in touch with your communities and folks in there. And if there's a senior doing great things for people of El Dorado County, and maybe they're not known throughout the county, it might be a very quiet service that they're doing. So just think of that. That's wonderful. We have data in here for senior nutrition, older adult day services. Our older adult day services, the club, this is our site for adults who need supervision during the day, most because of dementia or dementia related illnesses, diseases. The fees are increasing on July 1st. Yes, this was approved by the board a year ago. There'll be a fee increase phased in over the course of a number of years. So July 1st, the fees do go up. And so we're just now getting noticing out to our participants, letting them know that as of July 1st, the daily rates are increasing. And then the admission fee, there's a one-time fee that will go up as well. Do you have the figures? I can pull them up. I'm just curious. Yeah, I can. If you give me a second, I can do that. I wanted to mention one other thing about the club. At the end of April, in a budget presentation that the Chief Administrative Office presented to the Board of Supervisors, there was a board item looking at reducing general fund expenses for a couple of senior services programs. The reason for this is because of the impact of federal legislation, HR1, on our mandatory programs and increased costs for the counties. We have to balance our budgets. We have to look for general fund savings. And the board item was advising staff to look into outsourcing, the possibility of outsourcing our senior legal services program and to seeing if there are other entities in the county that could provide services for senior daycare. So that is where we can-

I think a lot of seniors use that.

They're wonderful programs. We are the only county in the state of California that provides, only AAA, the only area agency on aging that provides a senior daycare program. It's not a mandated program. It's wonderful, obviously, that the county has been able to do this, but we have to look at funding cuts in order to continue to provide mandatory services and mandatory services for very low income people, including low income seniors. And so that's what the board item is. And so, you know, you may hear more about that as the year goes on. I should add this, this is for fiscal year 2728. So we will on July 1st be starting fiscal year 2627. So this is not going into effect this summer. This is because If we do do this, there's a whole long process that would have to happen. And so it takes time. So staff is working on this now for senior legal and senior daycare. So and we'll see what comes of it. But I did want to mention that. And oh, and then one other thing I wanted to mention about senior services is we have been understaffed. We had a retiree and then we had someone get promoted elsewhere in the county. And so our information and assistance and our supportive services in our senior services program, we were pretty understaffed. We had one staff member keeping us going, but we have hired a new program coordinator. She's been without us for about a month. And so we're really looking forward to kind of, you know, a more robust program there again. And then we also have a part-time program assistant who splits time with LIHEAP, our HEAP program and our family caregiver support program. So we're getting our senior services side of the shop staffed back up. And when you provide services, staffing is key. So we're really happy to have those in place. I am not, let me stop for a second if there are any questions and then I'll see if I can find this as we're talking, but anyone have questions for me? I wanted to ask just for clarification.

So the fact that a third party might be coming in for the senior day care and the legal, sorry, thank you. That doesn't mean that we, are we in danger of losing it or we're just not going to manage it possibly anymore and someone else might?

Senior services, I'm sorry, senior legal is a mandated program that we are required to provide as the AAA. El Dorado County is the Area Agency on Aging for El Dorado County. And as such, we are required to provide senior legal services. What we provide in county, we are the only county, the only AAA that has in-house attorneys providing those services. And so the majority of other AAAs in the state contract out. In one case, they have some pro bono attorneys, but we are the only AAA in the state that has in-house attorneys. So we would continue, we will continue to provide senior legal services, but we provide, we put a lot of county general funds into the program far beyond what we are required for. So senior legal services is the federal funding and then the county needs to put in a 10% match and we put in way beyond a 10% match. And so again, when we are talking about budget cuts, those are gonna be looking at discretionary funds. And while senior legal is a mandatory program, we are not required to put the amount of general funds into it that we do. And so senior legal, What we are doing is we are working on a request for proposals to see if there are providers that would want to contract with the county to provide those services. And then that was the direction of the board and to look into that. No, nothing has been decided. This will go back to the board to look at the information that we have. Yeah. And then, you know, and we'll see if anyone responds to an RFP and, you know, kind of figure out.

And probably to see, measure whether contracting would be cheaper.

Exactly. And what does that mean? Exactly.

And then the adult daycare.

And the adult daycare, we would no longer be, the county would no longer be, if we went that direction, again, this is all direction to staff to explore cost savings. we would not be providing adult daycare as the county, and not contracting help.

Okay, question. Senior legal services, is there, because you do match more than 10%, are those services being utilized within this county? Oh, yeah. It's completely going over the line, okay.

Yeah, so for seniors, Fiscal year 26, 27 senior legal services is budgeted at $800,000. We are required to spend around $80,000. So it's a very, it's a big amount of money that the county has been putting into senior legal services, which is wonderful. And the services provided are, are fantastic and our seniors love it. And they provide, you know, I've, Don't quote me, but I think it was 3,000 documents or so prepared in the last calendar year, maybe fiscal year, for seniors. So wills and trusts, maybe doing advocacy with a landlord. Educational workshops, too. Yeah, they do educational workshops. So it's a very robust program that we are providing. Okay, I have the increased fees. Okay. So right now, the daily rate is $80. And as of July 1, it goes up to $105. And then there are discounts if you come increased number of days. So I won't go through those. But then the enrollment application fee currently is $144. That's one time. And as of July 1, that goes up to just shy of $250, $247.04. And this was approved by the board a year and a half ago, a year and a smidge ago, because it's an expensive program to operate and the daily fees had not been increased in a very long time. But it was phased in to give families time to adjust. And the rate is still below kind of, probably what you would have to pay if you went out for for-profit businesses, for a for-profit.

So would that mean that we couldn't have one in the same space, even with a third-party vendor, or would it have to be sustainable as far as financially?

All of that is to be determined. This was just the last time. It's helped her a lot. This board item was just at the end of April, so we're just starting now staff work on it. And it's for... We're a year out the fiscal year. So a year from July is where we would be potentially looking for a change in services.

So that's it for me, unless there are other questions. Thank you. Oh, I had a question.

Who is the new program coordinator for important services? Yes, her name is Denise Ramos. And she's been with us about a month.

Super happy to have her on board.

And then our new program assistant is named Eric Louie. And he's been with the county for a while, and worked in senior services for a bit. And so now back at Spring Street with us and working in LIHEAP and Family Caregiver Support Program. Thank you.

OK, let's move on. Yeah, I mean, there's more in the report, but I think I can leave it at that. Okay, committee reports. Membership committee? Did you skip over the EARS report? Oh, I'm sorry.

I thought that all the reports were done.

I didn't mean to skip over you. Amy, do you want to say anything about EARS or FFF? I can. So our 20, like as Lynette mentioned, our 2025 Community Services Block Grant contract has Ended effective April 30th, including our discretionary funding. So these reports show you our expenditures for the 25 contracts, which is 100% for both discretionary and regular DSPG. And the blue one, or actually you guys probably have lack of money. Off-saving measures, yes. The 26... contract report is a little bit different, but it has the dark blocks across the top line. That's our 26 contract and our expenditures are currently just over 19% of the total contracts amount. And as Lynette mentioned, we received the increased spending authority. The contract is for the full $330,000 for the year, but our expenditure limit is a little bit less until we receive the final okay for full expenditure. And that is all I had to say. Okay. And was there anything with the CSBG financial management model for FMM?

That was the $26,000.

Thank you.

Sorry to skip over you.

You're good.

Okay. Now we'll move on to membership committee, please.

Okay. Nothing really. So we had an application last month. I don't know. I mean, you never know. No. Yeah. So hopefully, but I don't know. Maybe we'll still hear back.

Um,

But so we're still down a low income sector.

And I had a little bit of interest in our last fire safe council. And when I did the defensible space assessors training, there was a couple of people from El Dorado County that said they were interested too. So I gave them our information. I gave them a little card they gave us last time and referred them to the website. So hopefully we'll get some more DNA. Got to cast a big white net out there. So many people are so overwhelmed and they're wearing like 50 hats and trying to juggle like 20 plates in the air. So I know about that.

Okay, great. Membership committee. Thank you. And how about the outreach committee?

So we did the kids expo. It was very successful and We were able to acquire 239 individual responses from the community across 15 different categories. So top priority, given that it was a kids expo, expectedly is the request for youth programs and activities, which was approximately about 35% of the responses. Second priority was housing and homelessness. at about 14%. And third priority was childcare services at 8%.

So yeah, we're pretty good.

We did have a winner. They were very grateful. So they got the raffle prize of $100 Dave and Buster's card. The kids had tons of prizes. It was a very popular booth for the kids. Yay. Very successful. Yes.

Thank you for that. Yeah, thank you guys for doing that. Cool.

Great.

How about the Ad Hoc Annual Report Committee?

Just a reminder, that was Misha, Kelly, and Shannon. I think they were part of that one. So we just added it to keep it fresh because that is coming up in September, the annual report. Besides Misha and I, who else was it? Shannon. Yeah. Through the email, it was just us.

That's what I thought. Yeah. That's why I was a little confused. Right.

And I wanted to follow up in regards to past reports to see. I couldn't find anything online. Maybe I'm just not directed in the right direction. Okay. But to kind of gather to see what has been done in the past and, you know.

And there's a template.

Okay.

So I wasn't sure if Rebecca had sent that out to you, but every year the board clerk's office puts together a template for the committees to present on. So I can send that to the three of you. That would be great. Yep. Thank you. And that comes from the BOS? Yes. Okay. Thank you.

OK. Anything else for committees or any other comments?

We have one thing to report out as of currently.

OK. I don't know if this started. Maybe it's already on there. Do we need to add that to the agenda, the request for an ad hoc? It's on here. OK, beautiful. Thank you.

Cool.

Okay, so let's move on to the action and discussion items.

We've got our 2026 CAC goals. Review, discuss, and make recommendations for it. That's the first action item.

Would anyone like to start that?

Well, you did want me to read the Resource Fair. And we're, I think, going to schedule the, maybe we'll look at the NAMI. So that reaching out.

NAMI is Jan's place. Okay.

Let's get that.

So would that be... That would go under the two... visit at least two community organizations. But that would probably count as kind of a double thing.

And there is a sheet that we have typed up and copied for us in our packet, too, for those of you that didn't know that.

We've had a couple of speakers. We have bylaws. I think we've done that quite a bit. Those will come back.

Those are on. Yeah, we're still working on those.

I'm not sure about the last one.

Be more involved in suggestions to HHSA regarding discretionary funds.

Develop a list map of service gaps community members face when trying to reach resources. What does he say? Be more cohesive communication.

Oh, OK. Is that part of our resource QR code? Does that include that information? What's that? It says create a more cohesive communication among agencies and resources. So collaboration, I guess that would be the next one.

Well, you guys, really, that kind of falls under what you did.

Yeah, but this kind of sounds like more between the agencies. Yeah. Yeah, so.

Well, definitely that resource list would help. You know, if anyone's confused and needs to find a resource, Yeah.

I mean, we could set out emails, letting them know what we do and our resources that we've put together for each one of these agencies. That might be something to start the discussion.

So I'm thinking, maybe this is the wrong way, but I'm thinking like law enforcement, like I know our police department that they're given information that they, you know, have any kind of problems or anything. Sure, the Sheriff's Department has the same thing, but they, you know, have a list of where folks can go. Resources.

Yeah, yeah.

Our animal service, a lot of the servers carry information in their trucks, so actually, if there was anything else you wanted to, you know, provide, because they'll be in people's homes, and they see a lot of need.

Right, and like, we just had our fire safe event in Placerville, and we had different booths that The animal services were there, and there was a lot of representation of services available.

So it sounds to me that they already know of our resources available, so maybe we should target organizations that don't?

I don't know who else we could contact.

In the papers that were written at kids fair for suggestions and stuff like that. Was there like a compilation of like what your themes were? Yes, yes.

I had a whole, well, I can barely see it on here, but I can, it's kind of blurry.

You grew up in everything?

I'm just saying.

You don't know that?

Yeah, so like top priority was the youth program, housing and homelessness, other needs. which I have an entire list of everything. Childcare services, healthcare access, employment workforce, parks and rec spaces, infrastructure and maintenance, so mostly like roads and education and tutoring, family and community support services, food security, mental health and behavior, safety and legal services, affordability. And then finally, with one person, transportation. Yes.

That's a great question.

Yeah, we're doing a good job with transportation. I mean, it's still an issue for outlaying areas, especially for seniors that weren't at this event, because we have to take in consideration the targeted audience that's involved.

families so the problem is because i was on transit committee for everyone who was on city council and it's so expensive and and not enough people utilize it so to keep it it just yeah it's a period a money issue again but so i i don't know any other thing other than maybe if it's allowed like a volunteer

You know, because seniors got together in Central Middleton County and were doing that, but I think it was more for like veterans and disabled folks.

So our Veterans Affairs Commission, they fund through TOT grants, they fund a number of organizations that part of what they're doing is providing transportation specifically to veterans. We have, you know, we do some senior shuttle work out of the senior shuttle.

For the folks, though, that aren't veterans, if we could, you know, maybe find some kind of program for them, you know. Yeah.

One of the things we did with the discretionary funds this year was buy bus passes for unhoused folks. I don't remember the amount. Was it $750?

But you were talking about the folks that are out in the outlying. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Oh, yeah. There was some kind of a, you know, like you're talking about, like the beds out.

There have been programs in the past in regards to that, where it was like once or twice a month, they would go out to the library and pick people up and take them into town. Oh, is that right? So who was that through? That was through the transit.

Oh, through transit?

Yeah, that was through transit. I believe it was. Let me follow up. Don't quote me on that. It might have been through Info and Assist.

Maybe they're writing it as, you know, a chain good grant or something, you know, financially.

Yeah, I think they decreased that or suspended it. Probably wasn't used enough. Exactly, exactly.

And it's no surprise that with your numbers, and especially with... the demographics that were at the kids' expo, the transportation would probably be, because the kids are still relying on probably their parents or their loved ones or whatever. It was only the parents that were involved in that. Oh, okay. Well, I'm interested in the service gaps and all the other stuff, all the other essential stuff, you know, and how we can maybe come up with ideas to fill some of those, even if it's just, we all put our heads together, which we do anyways for resource sharing, you know, like what, you've heard about what you know works, or you, any of us, right, and maybe that might be a good thing for us to explore in another meeting or something, or split off, I don't know, an ad hoc committee could do that, but yeah, because there's some other stuff.

Go ahead. Yeah, I'd like to piggyback on your remarks about working with the Sheriff's Department. They have a homeless outreach team. Have they ever talked to you about what they do, and For me, for everyone. And the numbers of people that they encountered.

Yes.

Because if you haven't heard from them, I think it's a very...

I've seen the individual, one of the sheriffs that patrolled this area. He patrolled over by Brew Road. And I have a phone number. Maybe I can have him come in.

That would be awesome. He will go to like

the El Dorado County Department of Human Services and, you know, check out people there, make sure that they're okay, make sure that they're safe, that they have everything that they need. And then he will sometimes pick them up and take them to the resource that they need to go at, like the navigation center over there and stuff like that. So I'll reach out to him. And did you say he's with the Sheriff's Department?

He's one of our security guards. He's not a gun carrier.

Oh, well, there was one deputy. Oh, okay, because that's one to my understanding to what I communicated. But there is, they do also have the individual program.

Yeah, the navigation centers are great. Yeah, the POT is under a new name, and I'm not going to remember what it is now.

It's HEAT. It's HEAT, yeah.

That one was an enforcement team. Because it's thought out. Because a lot of what they do is handing out expectations.

They shift the focus a little bit, but they're still out there doing the job.

I believe you would have been seeing our security team. There's three security guards.

That's the sheriff's guard. They're part of the sheriff's guard. They're security officers versus deputies.

Correct. Okay, this person told me that they were part of the homeless outreach team.

That could very well be. Certainly. Yeah, very well could be.

I remember, too, when it used to be, it seemed like we heard more about them than we're hearing now, so I don't know. which they had to cut services. I don't know.

But I think it would be great if we had someone here to talk. Well, you've had questions about housing before that I could not answer well. So you may actually want to have someone from our HHSA's housing and homeless team come and talk to you because they work with the outreach.

I mean, they do outreach and have social workers and staff. And this is...

the county's housing and homeless program. Housing and homeless.

And they're now part of behavioral health.

So they were in community services and have just transitioned to behavioral health, but still within the Health and Human Services Agency. And I can reach out to my colleague, Jennifer, if you would like to do that.

And they're not calling it homeless anymore, right? It's unhoused. It's unhoused. It's our housing and homeless unit.

Did the county conduct a point in time. Is there any outcome from that? Any figures?

I don't have it at my fingertips, but yes. But that would be something, too, that maybe you would want them to come and talk about the pit.

I'd be interested in hearing. If I could get her contacted for a letter, that would be really great. To see about outsourcing to other counties and stuff like that, because I do support some individuals that are on health and then I just know a lot of other people in the community because I do work in mental health. So we do have, you know, like at the adult residential facility that we have looking for resources and stuff like that. And it's just good to have that because I have a resource or a resource book at my agency, but it would be nice to have that and then further that to the other individuals that I know in the community.

So I just want to remind you what I do. I am the outreach coordinator for vulnerable populations with Marshall Hospital. So I have a, I'm also a board member of the Tahoe Coalition for the Homeless. So I have a direct relationship with all of these people that you guys are talking about. And if you have somebody that needs resources, feel free to reach out to me and I'm willing to contact them. Typically the first steps with homelessness is you want to go through what we call the front door, which is our coordinated entry system. where they receive an intake and evaluate what their needs are. And then Tahoe Coalition, who is our coordinated entry program, they send people where they need to go. And then housing and homelessness, of course, I always recommend people go to Health and Human Services and apply for services and then get them connected to housing and homelessness as well.

Do you guys also outsource to other counties like Sacramento County if they're wanting to relocate?

Do we outsource? No, that's kind of unethical.

Yeah, we don't do that. Yeah, we don't send people to Sacramento.

If they voluntarily want to go to Sacramento, then that's on them, but we don't send them to Sacramento.

Okay, moving on. Our next point of business is we shall elect a chair and a vice chair. for a one-year term beginning July 1st, 2026 and ending on June 30th, 2027. How do we start that? First we ask for nominations? Sounds good. Okay, I wasn't sure. Okay, so do we have nominations for chair and vice chair? Would someone like to nominate?

I just think that you, like, I recognize the fact that you've done such a phenomenal job. and your knowledge, your expertise, and your involvement in the community would be incredibly beneficial to this council. And so I recognize that somebody that puts in the work is able to put in 120%. So I mean, I would like to nominate you if we could do that.

Thank you. Will you accept that nomination, Cheyenne?

I will under the pretense that I learned more exactly what the church had.

I was just going to say how much work is involved. And Kelly could probably share how much time she spends. But I agree. You seem to have all the resources. Everything we're talking about is part of your job. So it might be a little bit easier, actually.

to have somebody in your... And there's some training videos and resources we could share too. Yeah.

And I was going to say, I think as staff, we'll want to kind of help on board whoever the new chair is. Okay. Well, I second if she looks up.

I would also say Kelly as well because she's been here for so long. I'm termed out. I can't do it anymore.

Can you be vice chair?

I think I can be vice chair, but I can't nominate Kelly for vice chair.

Yeah.

We can nominate whoever, and then they can accept it or not, even though we can take a vote on it. I think that's the appropriate way to do it.

And this is absolutely nothing against Kelly, but I'm thinking maybe for future reference, we might want to think about somebody else to learn the ropes. Yeah, absolutely. Because you've done a great job. Thank you.

It has been my baby, but I'm not taking anything personal. It seems like you're on every that's out there i don't know how you handle it all but anyway i'm just thinking i just think but i think you'd be a great asset and i'm glad that you'd accept the nomination and i i'm all for you too so there's my endorsement okay thank you yeah um well i how many hours do you put Well, and that's the thing about this. So I have to tell you that my being chair for the last couple of years has been totally different than the fellow before me and the woman before that and the guy before her, because it really depends on what you want to put into it. There is no prescribed amount of time. I mean, the meetings are important. I want to say, and you've been here since you've been here. It's so important to me to hand the torch over because There has been an issue, obviously, before with taking seriously the responsibilities and being here. And that's the biggest thing. And not just being here, but being an active participant, which you have more than been since you've been here. And I'm so proud of you. And I'm just so many things about you. I think you're a great asset to our council. And I feel completely comfortable and at ease doing whatever I can for the transition. But I have to say, So each person that is elected chair or vice chair, for that matter, has obviously their own things that they're down about, right? Interested in stuff. For me, essentially, mine has changed since the Frisbee Flats, Caldor Fire, actually. It's very much changed. And it's changed since I lost my daughter. And it's changed since I've been a student. So I've been like continually kind of Kelly Chameleon, you know, in all these iterations of myself. But... I have to say, we have such a, I'm getting goosebumps as I'm saying it because I really believe it. We have such a dynamic group of people right now on our council. And it just, it not only warms my heart and it excites me with, oh, the places we will go. You know what I mean? But I think there's a synchronicity about us too and a willingness that I just think is so essential. And what I know you and I don't know you really well, but I have had several dealings with you now and stuff. And I just, I think that you'd be great for that. And in keeping the momentum going and engagement. And not only that, but because you are, you know, not just the board member with the Tahoe Coalition, but also because you hold a really important job in the community with a huge employer and a huge, you know, asset to our community. I just, I think that we're going to go in a great new direction with you at the helm. And so I'm excited for that. As far as time goes, I can't really tell you. Sometimes it feels like two hours in a month, which I know it's a lot more than that, but sometimes it does feel like negligible. And other times it feels like I don't have enough time in a day to do all the different things and wear the different masks. but it really is what you make it. It is. I mean, there's as far as even in bylaws and stuff, because I've had a chance to look at those really closely lately and just familiarize myself with stuff because, you know, it's very different how we're run today. And at this moment, anybody that's been around here for a while could tell you that it's, it's very different how it's run right now versus how it has been in the past. And I'm not about, I'm never about like regrets, right? I try to live my life without regrets and just knowing that I make the best decision that I can at the time with the information I have. And I've used that in my life and parenting every little situation I can come to. And I think as long as you're just open to listen to other people's viewpoints, which I have experienced that from you, you are, you're a very fair individual and you're also very dedicated to what you do and to our community. And I think that's awesome. So I just I think however many hours you can eke out with your already full plate. I know you have a full plate. And I mean, you know, hey, let's get on teams or whatever, you know, we're going to work it out. And I love that about you. So I have no doubt that, you know, whether you put in 10 hours or 100 hours, which I'm sure it wouldn't be that much. And you can be as involved or not or delicate. Delegatory at work, because I think I just made that up right now. As delegated as you'd want to be, you know, to all the rest of us. And I love that you're on board with, like, the ad hocs and stuff. And, hey, this is a problem and issue that needs to be dealt with. So let's break up and put our heads together. And, you know, I love that.

And Shannon, as chair, they're staff here to support you, too.

Yeah. And this is the biggest thing, too, because, I mean, like, Rebecca – And I love you for a long time. And I'm getting to know you two ladies and stuff. But all you have to do is ask. I mean, sometimes you don't even have to ask. You just have to, like, say something or make a comment, and the help's there. And it's not just with staff. It's with the rest of us, too. It's very supportive. And I think that you'll be great. I do. I do.

So, yeah. So I think a roll call, though.

Let me ask you a quick question. Do we have the vice chair as well, or are we doing those two separately?

We didn't really land on that. And then maybe we'll do vice chair second.

OK. So the motion is for Shannon to be the chair for next year. Or is it effective immediately?

Effective the July meeting. July meeting. Because we're dark, isn't she? Correct.

I got a little time. Mark. Yes. Kathy. Yes. Shelley. Yes. Yes. Heather. Yes. Stephanie.

Yeah.

Okay. Misha. Yeah. Kelly. Kelly. Which one? Oh, sorry, Kelly. I'm not used to that. Kelly K. Shannon. And then Alan.

Yes.

And Kelly N. Yes. Approved. Unanimous. Congratulations, Shannon.

Thank you. OK, so we still need to vote on a vice chair because Misha and my terms are both up with this meeting.

So I can't nominate you for vice chair then because you serve three terms of chair?

Well, that's what I was thinking. Or you can nominate anybody else. Vice chair is completely independent of chair and the terms. So this would be a new term for me if elected, and it would be for a year. I accept the nomination if you're nominating.

I would like to still. Yeah, I would also like to second Mark's.

Thank you for the vice chair.

I'd like to. I'd like to too.

Other any other nominations?

Anybody else want to do it? Misha, do you want to? Oh, yeah, you have to.

I have so much on my plate right now that it would be neglectful to consider being a vice chair. It doesn't mean that I'm still involved because I still love to be here and I'm grateful to be here. However, I think it would be responsible to hand and toss that to somebody else so that it can be, you know, there can be more work, there can be more care.

And you know, that's a good point because I was actually thinking of Shannon when I would think who would want to do this, but I thought that Aaron would be a great vice chair.

But I, it's always a good time to nominate.

I mean, I don't, he's been my right hand guy in several times or because the staff or like, I mean, Mark actually, but you guys can't take that on. Right. Or could you be a vice chair still?

I'm sure I could, but unlike her, I got a loaded plate. Yeah.

No, I get that. Yeah.

So, again, I'm thinking that maybe we should put somebody else in training. You know, you're so qualified. I don't know about that.

Well, thank you. But somebody has to want to do it. Oh, absolutely. Do we have any other nominations? Would anybody else like to drive vice chair? Because you don't have to necessarily be, you know, an old long in the tooth member like some of us are. You could be new and, you know, start a whole new.

Any other nominations for vice chair?

Okay, so we have a first for Kelly K for Mark and a second for Misha.

Is there anyone in Tahoe that we should think about?

Heather, would you like to be a vice chair? No, city council is plenty. Okay. Okay.

And I don't know who else we have. I probably wouldn't be right to nominate because he's somebody that's not.

Yeah. Ready for the vote? Mark? Yes.

Kathy? Yes. Shelly? Yes. Patty? Yes. Heather? Yes. Stephanie? Yes. Aaron? Yes.

Misha.

Yes. Kelly K. Yes. Shannon. Yes. Alan.

Yes.

And Kelly N. Yes.

Motion approved. Thank you all for your support.

Always.

All right. We'll move on to the next action item, number seven. I've got my glasses on. They're sitting on my head. I forgot. Okay. So The Community Action Agency will discuss the formation of an ad hoc committee to review the community needs assessment, develop ideas to address the needs and or gaps in service, and provide suggestions for the development of a CSBG discretionary work plan should funding be made available. And we did already kind of talk about that. But are we going to do something on that?

We didn't make any formal action. And Shannon had reached out and said there was some interest there. And so we've agendized it so you can make a formal action and form that ad hoc. OK. Would someone like to make that motion to form that? I'll make the motion to form that. Bless you. Bless you, Steph.

We can do a roll call vote on it.

Do you want to identify who will be part of that ad hoc committee?

Is that necessary right now, or do we just know that we have one and then we assign it? I think you need to have them. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Because I imagine some people might want to think about it. Well, it was on the last month, too. Okay. And no one volunteered, so. Okay. So now that I'm not chair anymore, I would like to volunteer for that.

Can I volunteer?

Of course. We'd love to have you. Okay. And Shannon, you're part of it already. And then anybody, any other members? Patty, great.

I think quorum would be. Okay.

So yeah. We're so good. Yeah. Okay. Yep.

Okay, so we'll have Shannon. Misha, did you say you wanted to?

I don't know if I have.

No, she didn't say no.

Okay. As much as I would really like to, I have to. No, I understand.

That's Alan, Kelly, Shannon, and Patty.

Yeah. How much time do you guys do just to do that?

It's usually like once a month or something like that.

And we usually do things by team.

So you're going to still do that. And I just want to make a note about the discretionary funding. The state recently shared that they're going to be changing how we do our work plan for discretionary. So normally they tell us the funding amount and then we fill out a work plan once we receive notification of the funding. They are now going to be asking that we have a work plan put together before funding. Because we don't know what the funding will be, or how much it will be, or if we're going to even get it. But they want us to plan.

Is that more of a substantiation thing, like to see where the stuff will be going discretionary-wise?

They used to do it before they just started allocating. I think that makes sense. Yeah, it does.

Especially when you have one pie to go so many ways.

Yeah, this committee will be really integral in developing that. Great. OK. And again, discretionary, it's not a guarantee.

Right.

And we don't know the amount. We have to present a real robust . We need all this.

OK. All right. So I think we have enough people. It's under the quorum level. So that's five of us, I think. Can we take a vote on it? Yes.

OK. Mark? Yes. Kathy? Yes. Jelly? Yes. Patty? Yes. Heather. Yes. Stephanie. Yeah. Misha. Yes. Kelly K. Yes. Shannon. Yes. Alan.

Yes.

And Kelly N. Yes. Motion approved.

And, you know, I think that might be something that Aaron might want to help on, too, because he's one of his favorites.

Yeah. When's our first meeting? She probably needs to look at her schedule.

You're out of time.

Can you let us know, Shannon, what that is for you?

If you could send me an email of all of the people's...

I think what I'll do, because I think it would be great to have staff also involved because we'll be helping kind of identify, you know, with what might work, what might not work. I'll send out or Yasmin will an email to all of the members on the ad hoc to start figuring out times and dates for meeting and then we'll schedule. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you for helping us with that. Okay. Next order of business item number eight, the Community Action Council will receive a report on the CalCAPA advocacy. Dan, I believe that was Alan. with a great printout, a handout. Thank you for that.

Thank you. Do you all have this?

Yeah.

And this?

Yep. No.

I think I do.

Are they in here? Yes, they're in here. Oh, they're black and white. They're black and white.

Now, most of this report are from these two documents. But in addition to that, I provide information from NASCSP, the National Association for State Community Services Programs on weatherization and LAHEAP. And then I also have another profile just for California on LAHEAP. That's the information that's under this program right here. So what I want to convey to you is that this was a very successful program on the 14th. It was part of a two-day program where the first day was meeting and discussing about how to be an advocate for your program. Now, I'm a professional lobbyist. from my previous background. So I know what that's all about. And if you need any information about how to lobby your local representative, I can help you with that. We had some excellent speakers from the state legislature, both on the assembly side and on the Senate side. They came with some exceptionally good comments about poverty in California, and what they are trying to accomplish. And I think perhaps the most interesting person was Senator Jerry McNary from Senate District 5. Don't ask me where that is, but I think it's Alameda County.

Oh, I thought it was Central California, but you might be right.

He's carrying a bill to create an office of nonprofit empowerment. And what that is, is that there's no offices in the entire state government that caters to the needs of nonprofit organizations. And he's hoping to get a six member staff in the capital to assist any of the nonprofits that are out there with their needs. particularly with funding, state funding or any other kind of funding. What I thought was really interesting is when I approached them about the fact that just a day before Governor Newsom had announced that he wanted to cut the business registration tax, which is an annual $800 tax in half to $400. And I suggested to Senator McNary that let's do that for nonprofits because they too have to pay that $800 every year. And he said he would certainly consider it since in fact that Governor Newsom's idea has to come through the state legislature. So anyway, overall, it was very, very successful. And I've attended almost all of these legislative days for the last six or eight years. And each year they get better and better and better. So hats off to the staff for being able to organize that. And incidentally.

So have you seen results of these days? Have you seen positive results? Oh, yeah. That's what I'm wondering.

Oh, yeah. They pay off. Absolutely. Okay. You know, probably the number one supporter for community action is your own state senator here. She was one of our guest speakers two years ago. And she is out of Head Start. I mean, she's a headstart mother and she's originally from Sonoma County. So she knows the community action organization in Sonoma County. So she's a big supporter of ours, believe it or not.

I do believe it. She's very, I see her.

Anyway, that's very important. I think this would be a good time to suggest that At a future meeting, we invite the executive director of CalCAPA, his name is David Knight, to be one of our guest speakers at one of our meetings, because he can give you a better overall picture of what's going on in California than I can. And if that's acceptable to you, let me know what you'd like to hear from him. And I'll contact him and invite him over.

That would be wonderful. So it looks like we might have two speakers lined up between you and Misha. Speakers. Yes, speakers. You were going to reach out.

You were going to reach out to them.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Okay.

I was like, wait a minute.

Kelly, I'm thinking we need to give Alan her microphone. We have our next year's calendar prepared that he can present the days.

I think he received it with the intro material. You have our meeting calendar, right? We sent that to you.

Would you resend that, please? Because I can't find it in all my stuff.

OK, no problem. Thank you.

Thank you for attending. Thank you for the report. Thank you for the handouts. Nothing like hitting the ground running as a brand new member. Thank you.

I hear that all the time.

I know. We love it. Thank you very much. I look forward to working with you. When would you like these speakers to possibly be in? Do you want to create some kind of a deadline or an ETA for that?

Well, I was thinking if we could have our first one at our July meeting, that would be awesome. One of the three. So that would either be, I know we were talking about, I don't want to keep saying field trip. Is that what we're calling it? Phil Tanami? Okay, well, you know. An off-site meeting. An off-site meeting. Okay, thank you. I knew there was something to that.

And we're talking about that for our July meeting.

July. Okay, so maybe we could do, depending on, I mean, I imagine both of those other people might be really busy. So why don't we give them an option of like August, September, October? Let's just say. Well, that's why I suggested that Alan have a calendar so that. Oh, September. No meeting in August. Oh, right. August for dark. So September, October, November.

No, September, October, December. Oh, September. Thank you. September, November 23rd, October 28th, October, December. That's right. OK. Thank you, Yasmeen, for reminding us about that.

OK. So yeah, I mean, we ultimately could have our site visit, our off-site meeting, right? And then three speakers set up before the end of the year. So I have a couple people I've been working on, too.

So I'd just like to say, if you would like presenters to come, that's great. But let us know so we can make sure we get it on the agenda.

We won't have any conflicts or anything like that. We'll have to have at least like a 60-day notice or whatever.

Is it a 60-day or how many days prior to it? Because I know that the drafts and the final has got to be printed out. It's 72 hours. So our agenda, because our meetings are on Wednesday, our agenda deadline is Friday. Okay. But I would ask a little bit earlier than that, though. Not the Friday before would be preferable.

Okay. So for anybody that needs to know, just to reiterate, September, October, December meeting. we're looking for guest speakers to fill. Three guest speakers to fill. That would be neat if we could have a guest speaker at each meeting.

I'd like that.

And I bet you would, too. You know, there's a lot of other information on here that Alan didn't talk about that talks about bills.

Make sure you look at it. There's also QR codes for the legislation, which is very timely considering we have an election next week in November. So yeah. OK. Thank you again, Ellen. We appreciate your time.

Can I say one thing about the advocacy? I think you all know this. But if you are going to be weighing in on any of these pieces of legislation, you're doing that as an individual, not as the council. So just be mindful of that.

Yep.

An involved, engaged citizen. Okay, great. So let's move on to, um, let's move on to the update by members. And I do have, I just wanted to remind everybody about our firewise day. It's going to be on Saturday, July 18th at two 30 until probably about seven. Um, and the Taylor property, which is off of, cause I don't have the address offhand, but it's off of Cosumnes mine, which is off of, um, Grizzly Flats wrote in Grizzly Flats. And we would really appreciate your support. I would, as a council member and now former chair, this is our only fundraiser of the year. And to be honest with you, for the first three years, because we just started having it again last year. So for the first four years after the Caldor fire, we didn't have this. And because of the nonprofit status, we're not able to do our online fundraising. silent auctions or any of the other stuff that we used to do to bring in money or any of our baskets we cannot do any of that anymore so yeah so this firewise day which we do to get a discount to be community firewise in our community that's already been ravaged as you all know we do this and it helps us with the next year and going forward a lot of educational stuff so we'll have tables out we have Cal Fire that'll be there I'm hoping to get George and Mark out there because they have been integral in our rebuilding what's been done in Grizzly Flats, and we would really like to have them and their families there. But also, there will be a couple little raffles, on-site raffles, and we're having a great barbecue. The guy that barbecues is, like, phenomenal, and it's only, it's very, I think it's like $10, and you get a full plate, and plus there's cake and drinks and all kinds of stuff. Great chance to meet neighbors, great chance to network and interact with everybody and see me. I'll be co-emceeing with Mark. So, yeah, I'd really love it if you guys could make an attempt to stop by at some point. Saturday, July 18th, and we'll start about 2.30 in the afternoon. I think it starts at like 3, but if you want to get a good seat, because seating is limited and it's even more limited for the shady spots. So and it was really hot last time we did it in August. Yeah, we do have a couple of pop ups. But last time the wind was so bad that one of them went into our chairs truck and caused extensive damage. So now we have like the water and the cement boulder down or things, you know, whatever they're called the anchors. But yeah, it's really windy up there on the Taylor property.

So and we'll have music.

Well, it'll be a great time. We do have a flyer. Last I heard, he was tweaking it, but I'll check again today and get that out to everybody. Yeah. So thank you. Okay. Any other council members' updates or announcements?

I've got one.

Okay, Alan, go ahead.

Just up the road in South Lake Tahoe at Margaritaville is the next annual conference of CalCAPA. It's August. I'm sorry. October 27th through the 28th. And I would recommend that you all go because I'm the one. So put it on your calendar and probably you'll get an announcement in your email at some point.

Is that South Lake Tahoe, Alan?

South Lake Tahoe. Okay.

I was going to be up there that weekend for my birthday anyways. Awesome. I didn't know they had a margarita, but I haven't been there for a while.

Yeah.

October 27th through the 28th.

Oh, I know.

Okay. I think there's a concert we're trying to see on that weekend too. So we'll have a full packed weekend. All right. Okay, any other announcements or anything for the wedding?

So, wedding trains coming to Platteville. Yeah, wedding trains. June 10th, and we're going to honor Davy Dockweiser. It's Saturday.

It's either the 6th or the 13th.

It's the 6th. Thank you. I stayed there again.

Weather train? Wagon. Wagon.

Wagon. Anybody that doesn't know, there is an awesome page that, I can't think of the gal's name that runs it or does it, but she has this page on Facebook. And all things wagon train and history and stuff are on there. A lot of great info.

And I don't know why they're starting early, except that I did hear they're having a lot of booths and stuff, like 9.30, 10. And then when the wagon train comes in, it's going to stop. um for maybe 20 minutes or so but um davy dock is posthumously going to lead it in his wagon and he'll be at the end and we're going to have a memorial coming up at the end oh that's right i'd like to bring up the end of the break so um we're going to have a memorial an hour is set aside for a memorial to davy dock so it's going to be something different and special yeah coming through downtown and all of that stuff too okay yeah And it's going to be, it's going to be a great day.

I wanted to ask you so that I can like be mindful and maybe take some participants. You're at Pollock Pines, aren't you? Oh, are you?

Well, for some reason I was thinking, anyway. Oh, okay. Yeah. So parking, it's all over the whole town. It's unbelievable, but.

Cool.

You might have .

There's vendors there, and there's food and stuff. Oh, yeah. Thanks for that, Connie. Thank you. Any other members have any other announcements or information sharing or proposed activities they'd like to talk about? Mark, do you have anything?

Not at the moment. I mean, we're doing more with Title 25. We got a dozen more people confirmed for homes built through HomeAid.

Yay.

And we're looking for another 600,000 to do the last seven.

Okay. And I did want to ask you, what determines whose houses are going to get re... Oh, this is really easy.

If you survived the Caldor fire and you do not have a home, you still own the property where the home was. Oh, okay. I mean, they're not requiring that you have septic in the ground and everything. but the idea is that you would have a lot of that stuff there already because the fire didn't burn that. Right. And so that would be part of the cost saving.

Oh, I see.

Okay. And really it's a loan, so the county's not gifting any money to anybody for these homes. HomeAid has put money on themselves, but the county's portion of it is a loan that has stipulations.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, it may have to be paid back.

Very strange when I hear, but is it like 700 or 800 square feet?

Yeah, the homes are 750 square feet. They're small, not tiny homes.

So in one of our Firewise meetings, Mark Egbert was talking about how, and I don't know if it pertains to that or not, but I'm just curious about this. about how they're having difficulty. They're being condemned for not doing clearance and stuff like that. And so they were saying they have had a terrible time trying to reach out to the owners of the properties to get permission. They can't get access because they cannot get access.

It's going to be hard for me to explain without getting political. There's a political element to this. In other words, There are some people that have, like, for example, we had Team Rubicon come in, and all they were there was volunteering to drop dead trees, chainsaw dead trees, that's what they were doing. And there were some members of the community that came out and said, don't sign up with this group. And we're not sure why, but that same group that was kind of naysaying is the reason why RCD is having so much trouble. And out of that, there are some people in the county that believe those trees are worth money. And so some people are holding on to their trees, thinking that they're worth money.

And it's false information, again, Facebook and all that.

And dangerous to the rest of us out there in the community. Yeah, yeah. Especially with all the fallen trees. It's so sad. I mean, yeah. The money's only right now.

It's very difficult to hear if everyone's talking at the same time.

I'm sorry. Yeah, so what we're doing in the District 2 office is we're trying to inform people more about what they do. Great.

Good.

ROEs and stuff.

We can't force anybody.

No. And a lot of people out in Grizzly, what other people don't understand is that, so there are three and four generation people that were living out there that lost everything, actually. There's people that haven't been on their property in like 30, 40 years, whatever. They're just, you know, it's paid off or it was passed down through legacy, you know, through other generations, through their family or whatever. And they have no idea.

As a matter of fact, we were talking to two people that had no idea about the Caldor fire in Grizzly Flats at all.

And I mean, for some of us, you know, especially the ones of us that evacuated or lost everything, that was like everything we've been thinking about ever since, right? But there's so many different things. Again, we've got the same people that don't even know about. Mark, how about the community center? What's going on with that?

Is that still a... You mean the... The South County Alliance? Yeah. We have not heard anything from South County Alliance about it. Really? Yeah.

So what about funding or anything else like that? Nothing's going on right now?

Yeah, not anything about it. Okay. We're actually kind of removed from that effort.

Oh, you are?

Yeah. For whatever reason, when they decided to do that effort, they didn't need our help with it. That's just what we were told.

I did not know that. Okay. Thank you. That's okay.

I mean, you know, we're here to help. Okay. It really is all about politics.

Okay, y'all. Yeah, I don't like politics. Sorry.

Is there anybody else that has any announcements or information? Shannon?

I have a quick thing. The MAST meeting, Multidisciplinary Adult Service Team meeting, this month in June, they will be having Adult Protective Services, the Upper Room, Housing El Dorado, as well as the HEAT team, They are all doing presentations. So it would be a good idea if one of us could go. I know I can definitely go, but I can't represent CAC. However, this might be an opportunity for us at some point to do our own. presentation when we feel we're ready and we have permission uh to announce what we do to try to bridge that gap between all of the different resources because this is a major say it again it's the mast m-a-s-t multi-disciplinary adult service team and it's presented um by adult protective services and what date uh june 3rd at it starts at 9 a.m

And where is that, Sherry?

It's at the Health and Human Services office.

So on Brewer Road?

Yes. And I can send you, they also do it via Zoom as well, if you can't make it in person. And I could forward you the . They do request an RSVP because seating is limited. Right.

Awesome. Thank you. Anybody else have anything?

One thing here.

Ellen?

It's a thank you to Amy. She politely received me the other day at our meeting with terrific and productive. So now I know all about you.

And she directed food and shirt to the resources online and on the webpage because there are some good ones. Resources on our El Dorado County page. And I think there's even like a YouTube video or something. So there's more resources out there too that Amy has helped with or shared or knows about. that I've found out recently.

I did also want to just say thank you because I know I knew when I was very quiet for the meeting, I didn't volunteer for anything, but similar to Misha, I kind of just wanted to see the amount of time so that if I'm putting anything, if I'm putting myself in the ring for anything, I want to make sure I can commit to it. So that made sure I learned my way.

I appreciate your thoughtfulness, honesty, and boundaries. Okay, well, I'm going to go ahead and adjourn the meeting. It's 1121. And thank you, everybody. Remember, we are dark next month, and we'll see you again in Chelsea.