Shoreline Regional Park Community - Regular Meeting

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All righty. I call this August 19th, 2026 meeting of the City of Mountain View's Performing Arts Committee to order at 616 p.m. This meeting is being conducted with a virtual component. Anyone wishing to address the committee virtually may join the meeting online at http://mountainview.zoom.us slash j slash 82884578889 or by dialing 669-900-9128. and entering webinar ID 828-8457-8889. When the chair announces the item on which you wish to speak, put the raise hand feature in Zoom or dial nine on your phone. When the chair calls your name to provide public comment, if you are participating via phone, please press R6 to unmute yourself. Please staff do the roll call.

Of course. Chairperson Donahue? Here. Vice Chair Fenham? Here. Committee Member Bargois? Here. Committee Member Crum? Committee Member Garcia?

Moving along to minutes approval. 3.1 minutes approval recommendation approved the June 24th, 2026. Reforming Arts Committee meeting minutes. The minutes are attached. Do we have any additions or comments on the minutes?

For some reason, I can't find my notes from the previous meeting.

I'm sorry, we cleaned the mounts. Oh, okay.

All right.

We should have left them on. Let's make the last one.

I only, HAB-Masyn Moyer- I don't know either, but my recollection or item five one in our prior meeting is that the motion was actually HAB-Masyn Moyer- As amended because we made changes. HAB-Masyn Moyer- The work plans.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- You can bind. HAB-Masyn Moyer- There was yeah we did.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Work plan. HAB-Masyn Moyer- And As amended.

To be forwarded to the as amended is missing. Something.

Don't recall that felt like we had a restated a few times to get the word. So I think that might be the On the one. Yes, because because David had an idea of how you wanted to collect things under kind of community development and then Yeah, we separate it.

We have them as separate items like 123 and we made it like to a to be right.

But my recollection is we had to rephrase the motion. It wasn't as simple as as amended, as I said, as amended to something. Like we worked on the word and the promotion a little bit as a meeting before we got what we liked. But that's, so I'm not sure that fully even adding the word element fully captures that, but I would have to go back and listen to the book. I'm saying they don't think this is the most that we made.

Okay. Do you want me to listen to the recording? You can change it.

Yes, please. If I'm wrong, I think we had quite a bit of discussion on that.

No, I did. But then I know we did. But then I think we agreed to the changes. And then we made a motion. But I'll read. I'll listen to the recording.

It's not a big deal. My recommendation would be as amended so that it was a little more deep to the motion.

Well, I have. Let's see what I have. Good news is I still kept the motion. Awesome.

I just, I mean, I just would want the last one to. Yeah, that's the most accurate way we do it.

So I don't. Okay.

So there's a motion to do we put this on next month's agenda.

Yeah.

So we're tabling the approval of nine months. Okay. Okay, so we're handling 3.1. So let's move along to item four, oral communications from the public. This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address the committee on any matter not on the agenda. Speakers are limited to three minutes. State law prohibits the committee from acting on non-agenda items. Do we have any members of the public? No. Okay, moving on to five, new business, 5.1, review and approve resident company questions. Recommendation, the committee will review and approve resident company questions.

Attachments, draft resident company questions. Thank you.

Would you like me to read them for the public and we can go section by section? Section by section is awesome. Thank you. Okay.

So first is programming. Question one is, are there any current or upcoming changes in programming direction that you would like to share with the committee? What recent advances have your programs achieved and what setbacks did you encounter? What structural changes are you implementing to evolve your programming and enhance audience engagement?

I had a thought on number one. In programming direction, should we include education or outreach? Instead of just focusing on programming direction, should we also ask about outreach?

Can you just cover... and collaboration.

It's true. I made these notes at home as I was reading through it.

I'm afraid I finished the whole thing. Alrighty, thank you.

But I did have a thought as well, just on the intro. When we talked about this a little bit before, I think the last set of resident company presentations, one of the some of the feedback I recall hearing from the committee is some people did the things out of order in their presentations. I don't know if that would just be like an attachment of like someone from Mountain View City saying, Please do an order. They're jumping around for, I can't remember which company. Makes it hard to follow. Made it hard to follow. Like, oh, suddenly they're talking about financial, but now we're back to programming. And so kind of where it makes, and I think also with the please answer questions, as they apply, makes it sound like you can give questions. And is that our intent that they can ask questions? Or do we want them to answer questions? all the questions for the best of your ability.

Yes, that would be good. It's to be fair to other participants, right?

And they would say, this doesn't apply. Question 1B doesn't apply, or something of some sort. But that would be, when I read that intro, it sounds like, I know we're not, not trying to ask people to be perfect, but it kind of like, maybe you don't feel like you don't have a good answer and you could also just stay with the question. Maybe.

Well, I think part of the reason that this is the way it is, which I mean, we're free to change is that the, there's a big differences between the resident companies that we have. And so. the teen theater company is a small operation. Maybe this doesn't all apply to them. But I like your point that as they apply also sort of gives tacit approval to skip things they don't want to answer, right? So how else could we frame that?

So if I'm hearing this correctly, It's more about we would like things in order, and we would like you to address each question, even if it doesn't apply to you. So, like, if you're the smaller company and, I don't know. It's not applicable. It's not applicable to us, but you're acknowledging the question.

Please acknowledge every question, but let us know if it doesn't apply. And if it doesn't apply, that's okay, but don't just skip it. Like it's hard.

So like in these, for example, the programming, I feel like number three could be phrased as what structural changes, if any, are you implementing to involve your program? Because it's like, well, what if I'm not making any structural changes? It kind of feels like you're expecting that. So maybe the ones that are, you know, maybe not applying, we can add like some kind of, If any, or as applicable. Because like for something like number one, are there current or upcoming changes? That's a generic question. Everybody's going to have that. What recent advances or setbacks did you have? Some of them will be. Yes, I agree with what you said, Teresa, that we're trying to get them to do it in order. to do all of them as much as possible.

Well, also in some form of writing. Yeah, if it's speaking, how can we possibly take notes on all these things, right?

I think there was one or two where it took turns kind of speaking. There was in PowerPoint, but there's also a lot of it's like, sneaking into the questions. It's a little balancing on all the descriptive with what we're asking, but also making sure that we're able to follow them and make them work. So I want to say, it has to be a PowerPoint. It has to have this. But maybe acknowledging if you are not answering the question because it doesn't apply, because then we know it's not omission by accident. It's omission on purpose. They may say, exactly, we're not giving money in structural changes right now. It doesn't apply. But if they just don't answer, does it mean they forgot? Like, we're going to get back to it?

Okay. Okay, so that raises the question that if it's in writing, do they have to submit it so that it's attached to the agenda, or can they just do that during this?

No, they can do that during the agenda and the next part of the meeting.

Great.

And by writing, you mean, like, Just so we have something here, or you want everything written in writing?

What do you think?

Well, what do you think? Because you said you wanted it in writing.

Everything is good, so they can be bricked. Otherwise, you don't want them.

Who didn't give it in writing? I thought everybody was giving us stuff.

No, I mean, this came up because this was maybe three years ago, somebody just came in and talked rapidly for about an hour.

And so the questions came up. Because it was like, I was like, I'm not going through this again.

I don't remember what was said.

We need to have questions. Even last year, another company skipped around. So it was like, oh, did we cover? Wait, where?

I see. I see. Okay.

Yeah, I like that idea of in order. Because you're right. And I, you know.

So can I make a suggestion? Yes. As far as like the, I'm going to say this should be like an opening paragraph or opening sentence, couple sentences. And I can draft sentences and say, please answer all the questions. If they do not apply, say they do not apply in order to the rest of your ability. In writing? Yeah. Okay. Okay. This is our expectation. And then you guys will go through the questions, but I don't think we need to . And then we can dig in. A couple sentences that this says, here's your directions. So basically, what I got is we want them in order. Don't skip. We need to acknowledge each question. If it doesn't apply, that's OK. Just say it doesn't apply. And to the best of our ability.

And I'll make that sound better than just blabber it out.

That sounds good. Even that sounds good.

Okay, so like on point number two, I was thinking of adding this sentence, what did you learn from advances and setbacks? So people aren't afraid to say that they had a setback if it was a learning opportunity. Because nothing ever really goes perfectly the way you planned anyway, right?

So what recent advances have your programs achieved and what setbacks did you encounter?

And then follow that with what did you learn from your setback?

They can talk about both.

And then we have, what structural changes, if any, are you implementing to involve your programming and enhance it? So marketing, please share the key metrics and demographics of your current audience. How has this changed in the last five years? What specific strategies are you using to attract a more diverse or younger audience? Are there particular initiatives or campaigns that have been successful or that you're excited about the outcomes? Which social media platforms do you use and how would you rank them in terms of effectiveness for creating awareness? Are there any platforms you find particularly successful in engaging your audience?

Well, okay, so on number one, I was thinking about one presentation where just the demographics were given, but there were no numbers. So there weren't percentage of people between this age and people, you know, blue, you know, so the audience mix, it wasn't her because everybody's got all these different age groups, right? So, so key meant what did and the demographics and what is the percentage breakdown? How would you phrase that?

some people may not have that but i would say like okay like because you know like i know you've been sitting on me doesn't always have it because avenue or didn't said don't answer the question right i never answer it correctly i'm a 22 year old

So I have please share the key metrics and approximate, that's what it was, an approximate percentage breakdown of your demographics of your audience.

They may not collect that information, it may be, but you know if you go, oh, we have a bunch of, we used to call them white hairs, or we have a bunch of, oh, we target teens primarily, so 80% teen. That would be helpful for us. We don't need to know 81.2% teens. Or at least for me, I feel like just knowing rough counts where they have it.

Got it. On number two, RNG have a concern about infestation. There's no shortage. I think the issue is not finding, yeah. You don't need to throw that in their face, right?

But, I mean, I think this is an issue in all performing practices to get enough audiences. Yeah, all around.

Yeah, I think that the question is trying to find out what new audiences are they trying to draw in.

So diverse and, you know.

And younger is important.

I mean, to educate. So longevity, right?

Yeah, like a 65-year-old program that I performed with 20 years, shot recently. Audiences were shrinking. They weren't getting in younger audiences.

Continuity.

Anything else for marketing? Organization. Have any changes occurred in your staffing or leadership, and how have these changes impacted your organization? Have these changes brought about any significant shifts in strategy, culture, or operational efficiency? Do any of your board members work or reside in Mountain View?

All right, let's see.

Just a small ism. That one was a dot after it said, Well, I, yeah. There's one period, it's like one parentheses.

Oh, yes.

Well, we know who to send things to first. Collaboration. What communities do you believe you are serving and do you feel you are effectively reaching them? How are you measuring the impact? Are there specific metrics or tools you use to determine success? Could you list the programs you offer such as educational, community engagement, or outreach initiatives? When and where are these held? How many of these programs have been delivered in Mountain View, and how do you assess their impact on the community? What other benefits do you believe your organization brings to the Mountain View community? Number three, how are you collaborating with the Mountain View community? If you're not currently engaged in partnerships, are you interested in developing collaborations in Mountain View?

Well, I actually really like all these questions. The only thing is I don't understand. It's like, um, or I'm unclear of is for 3A that they say, Hey, we're not, um, currently engaged. Uh, yeah, we are interested. What are we going to do? What do we do with that information?

Yeah.

Like, do we have something where we can say, work with our community services division or, um, what are we going to do with that?

How about this? How will you develop these partnerships?

I think that's probably more useful than it kind of sounds like.

It sounds like we're offering something up and I'm not sure what we have to offer.

If you're not currently engaged in partnerships, how would you develop these partnerships or something?

How are you considering developing these partnerships? Okay. Something, it just, it sounds like we're like, Well, great. Let's introduce you to the city councils doing this big outreach program. If there were something, that'd be cool, but I don't think we have that.

So what do we want to change it to?

If you're not currently engaged in partnerships, how would you consider developing collaborations?

Carol, you had some words for me on that.

How would you develop these partnerships if you're not currently interested within use?

What ideas do you have to develop collaborations and not view?

How are you currently engaged in partnerships that are considering them? How would you develop It's a lot of words.

Well, let's assume they are considering them. We're assuming we want that. So if you're not currently engaged in partnerships, I mean, do we want to ask them what they need from us to help?

When I'm rereading this, it's like, what is our goal of asking this question? How are you collaborating with the Mountain View community. So then if you're not currently engaged in partnerships, I think what I kind of, what I say when I, if you read the lemonade, then it's like, if you're not currently engaged in partnerships, I think the question is, why not? Well, I think more of like the direct question that we're trying to ask, but that's not what we said.

This started with the idea of do they have, do companies have business partners? And now it's collaborating with the Mountain View community, which is vague, which they can say, well, we're doing education there. But this was more about seeing if they're performing here, are they also investing in community, you know, with restaurants to have a discount if you show your ticket or things like that.

That's what it's geared at. I don't get that from that question now, but that makes more sense because I'm thinking, how are you collaborating in the Mountain View community? Well, they're here performing. Right. They're collaborating with the staff from the Performing Arts Center. You know, like otherwise there'd be some problems if they wouldn't, they would do things unsafely or something. So they're collaborating. So that's not what we want to know. They're collaborating. What are they doing to build roots and encourage people from the community to come to their events?

Do we want to be more specific in that how are you collaborating with the downtown?

How we develop in partnership just because business sense in the question itself. Say that again, Irene? IU couldn't develop in partnership with its business sponsors.

I think it's helpful to add in the word business because I had no idea that that was the intent of this question.

This has been my mantra for at least three years. Do you have any business partnerships? Do you have any Mountain View residents on your board? I'm kind of actually surprised. I forgot that this happened last year. With discussions, a lot of stuff goes on and everything. I don't know how it got switched over to this, but it didn't, that's fine. But that's what I'm interested in knowing about.

So what we really want to ask, how are you currently developing partnerships with Mountain View businesses? Yes. Okay.

So what we want. So we're changing, how are you collaborating with the Mountain View community to be, how are you currently developing partnerships with Because we've already asked about collaboration.

You know, it would be nice if it's downtown, but I don't think that that's a requirement. No, I'm with you.

So if not, should we ask, are you planning to?

How are you planning to?

So we're just assuming that they should.

Yes. Okay. I'm going to say yes.

Ask what the question was again. How are you developing?

How are you currently developing partnerships with Mountain View businesses? And A is if not, how are you planning to? So there's an assumption that you should be. Yes.

I'm just making sure. For my own self, I would expect different levels. For the all student-run organization, it might be, you know, there are flyers up in coffee shops or whatever. But we're talking to the managers and we're getting out and it can be very simple. It can be very simple.

Do you want to Do you want to use those examples? I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. Do we want to use those examples, like parentheses?

Oh, like to prompt them? Yeah.

I would like to hear what they have to say before.

Yeah. I think an open-ended question will give them the freedom to answer it how they wish. And they might say things we hadn't thought to ask about. That's what the whole point of these questions are. Find out.

So we're good with that one?

Yep.

Financial. How do you determine your current break-even point and what methods do you use to ensure your revenue direct your expenses? What strategies do you use to ensure your overhead spending is effectively supporting your mission? Were there any unanticipated expenses this year? How do you manage unexpected expenses, emergency fund, endowment, et cetera?

And did we ask for like a graph or something for this one specifically, or is that kind of now accepted in our?

We don't ask for a graph, but I ask them when I do the staff reporting to remember basically like what's your gross, what's your net, what's your expenses, and that's in the staff report that is in front of the presentation from the group. So you get an overall that basically says this is what they did last year, this is where they're at this year.

So the first one is ensure your revenues match your expenses. Maybe your revenues exceed your expenses. Because break-even point is clearer. Because you don't want your revenues to exceed your expenses.

Oh, true. Oh, well, that's already used to ensure your revenues exceed your expenses or at least match.

Match or exceed your expenses.

Match or exceed.

That makes sense.

We're not saying they can't have a cushion for next year.

Two questions later we're saying, where is your cushion? Yeah.

I don't know why I wrote down donors. I mean, we don't need to ask him directly about that.

Any other changes on the strategic planning? What aspects of your strategic planning would you like to highlight for the committee? Are there any particular goals or initiatives you're excited about or perhaps challenges you're addressing?

I feel like that question is very clear and open-ended enough that we're not telling them what they should be doing.

I agree.

Okay. So staff will clean this up. We'll do a little opening, a couple sentences to make that nice. And we have a change to number two under programming, number three, number one on marketing. We have a clerical area will fix and on number three under cooperation and then change to number one on financial and then it'll come back to the next meeting and we'll ask a motion to okay um well you know we're kind of a little um without the july meeting because we need to be well kind of depend i'm reaching out to the resident companies right now but we usually schedule one in september

That's what I thought. October and one in November. Did we motion to approve this with these changes right now? Okay. I look for a motion to approve the present resident company annual presentation questions with the notes changes that we had actually suggested.

I second that motion. Valerie? Okay, Valerie. So thank you. And all in favor, raise your hands. I pass this unanimously. Now we're on to attendance. Alrighty. Oh, that's my favorite part. 5.2, fiscal year 2025, final attendance recommendation. Performing Arts Manager Teresa Yvonne will provide update on fiscal year 2025-26. Attendance.

Yes, so I gave you the whole packet. You guys have seen these before quarterly, but I gave you the fiscal year. Obviously, we haven't seen this one yet. August of last year. But this was quarter one, which is July, August, September of 25.

Smoot and Contemporary Bonnet is very popular. I haven't seen it.

Smoot does very well with us. So as you can tell, July, August, September were a little light. I mean, August and July and August are always light for us. And then the next one is October, November, December. As you can see, we pick up considerably. And that's when we had little women on the main stage, and we had driving in the second stage, which they're worse. They're always separated out of the bottom.

In January, February, March,

Silicon Valley dance community. As you can see, Joe Long's stand-up community. I think I'm missing one there. This might be coming back. We had Hershey Felder here. He does very well. So it's for four weeks. We have 13,000 women coming.

wow and then oh the other purchase all the corrections that was a one-off one thing yeah that was that was a guesswork yeah um and then april may june closing out so obviously may is very busy for us um

Pocket Opera, City of Ballet, Elks Beach Theater, they did both. And then the City of Mountain View Shakespeare on Tour. The bottom there, that was the library. Who's under the show? Vanessa? Just above six. Oh, Shakespeare on Tour, that's the library they came from.

Oh, cool, yeah.

The Don Quixote, oh, the first one? Yeah, the first one was you. But this really shows how popular she was. Yes, there's a lot of dance in this ballet. So in ballet, it's really long this time.

Well, their biggest one is always their holiday production.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's still sold a lot of tickets.

Yeah, the percentage is much, much lower than their previous.

Yeah, their December one.

Well, it's like every production that does a night record, too. Yeah. Snow cleaning would go really well. And then the other ones are lighter attended. I'm surprised on Q4 that come from away, there's only 70 of them in the house.

Well, how long was the run?

30 performances.

So, OK, some are going to be packed.

They had a bunch of weekday ones, too.

They sit for three weeks, and they go Tuesday through Sunday.

Yeah.

So then our final is our total numbers of everything. Grand total for the year by order. So number of tickets sold, 74,152. Number of folks attended, 281,369. That's everything. And my favorite part of the bottom is our ancillary spending. You know, obviously, quarter two, we do really well because that includes the holidays. But our ancillary spending for this facility for the year is $2,933,000. Roundup, that's $34,000. Yes. Last year, we were at just about $2 million.

Wow. And this lady, can you state the importance? What was that? Q3, Q4, study attendance.

Yes. Because Q4 also includes May. So our biggest months are December and May. We do not have a minute anywhere to spare.

So it's like December is...

My running joke is we operate from December 1 to December 26, and we somehow cram six weeks worth of shows in this. Both stages are humming.

We load them in and load them up. It's really like, it really is like. I don't know, I just have to go back, but.

The number of attendees for Q1.

Are you looking at that? There's something weird here. You're right.

Show air. I don't know what show air is. Show air? Show air is the ticketing.

Oh, okay. I think, oh, you know what happened? Okay. This is the tickets sold amount. Somehow the attended got the same number. So that's not right.

Oh, that's the amount, yeah.

That's the ticket sold. So that's wrong.

I was like, somehow, I was like, how did we, how did we do that? Some more attending than we sold because there's comps. Order two is correct.

When the people attended can't be 281,000. No. Yeah, I'm like, that's not right.

I know when I was looking, I was like, okay, because we got 8,500. And then when we have, yeah, so that's somehow the tickets go up there. That's because up there with the 211,000, that's quarter one is off.

That's right through that hole. So we really only have.

That's going to throw off my answer.

I was all excited. crossing. So.

That's on quarter one. That's 4580 attendance.

So then I go over here. Oh, it's Q3 also to be sold. I haven't gotten there yet.

One, two, three, I think. Now with 8500 people sold and 12,000 people attended.

No, that's, you got 12,000 comps. I've got 24,535. So if you add those, so basically the tickets sold is 21,718, but you've got comps added. So that's not, you know, you add the comps in, that's 24,500. Quarter one was wrong.

Quarter two books. Quarter three books. All right, that's on that.

Because normally, your number of tickets sold is higher than the number attended, right? Because not everyone attends who buys tickets.

So you got to add the comps in. Right, but that's not what's on this page. No, the final is off. But even I think there was one production that gave a lot of comps.

The one that I'm looking at is on the total for Q3 at the bottom.

622 comps for Q3.

But 623 comps plus 8,500 doesn't equal 12,000. Plus 595 comps from

12, 18, 12, 18 cops. It's like quarter three is showing numbers.

I'm looking at the 623 plus 595 is 12, 18.

So, but if we said tickets sold in 574, and then we're just adding that

12-18 to it.

Yeah, that 12-18 is...

It's 22-936. What? The attended. If you do the tickets sold and the comps attended, they're still... My attended is off. Yes. Yeah.

2-3, you were talking about show wear? Yes.

2-3, show wear.

And what should the number be?

I have to go back. So just disregard this, guys.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay, so what's great about is it conversion fee or something under show where what's that column.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Convenience convenience be. HAB-Masyn Moyer- In the facility you speak. HAB-Masyn Moyer- So I will bring this up my. HAB-Masyn Moyer- That would be like.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- yeah that would be a lot, I was all excited I thought we were like fabulous. HAB-Masyn Moyer- All right.

That's okay. We're still fabulous.

We are fabulous. I appreciate you.

It's still good. We're not so fabulous right now.

The raw numbers are still quite impressive from the production, but I'm really happy to see the productions have numbers that seem to be up on average. Yeah, across the board. And we have more new clients, too. We just have a I'll go read for it, then I can put it in. Kind of tells the story. Next one.

So there are, I've noticed just in the schedule, a lot of new companies in second stage, and some of them are foreign language productions.

We'll get more and more.

That is awesome. And to add to that, it was... Is it Young Moon? He's coming next month. Went on sale at one o'clock in the afternoon and was sold out. Oh, wow. So what does he do?

He's a vegan.

Wow. They reach out to us.

I mean, it has a lot to do, we've had multiple different types of comedians in second stage and on main stage. And, you know, they just have a network. And so, you know, then we get something. But that was impressive. Even I was impressed.

It's like, yeah, like, but they basically, one of our box office people talk to, you know, production guys.

she's like okay how do we do this yeah and they have all these um a korean language and asian language um you know networks and um you know social media and they basically advertised it for like two weeks that they go on sale and there's three different venues so we're in one venue and there's two others and these are the dates and we go on sale at one o'clock on this date it's cool and like An hour later, Sean came up an hour later. Wow.

That's fantastic.

And that's the main stage.

Yeah, this main stage? That's awesome. Main stage. One hour.

Literally, it's some big gig.

Well, but these people, you know, a lot of people need a place to perform.

Right.

And so having those dates available It's pretty key. It's awesome. I'm sorry.

My records.

It's like it broke the internet.

It's like you're not going to find your server. That's really cool. That's impressive. It was very impressive. I haven't asked, are there any members of the public who want to comment on what's on? No. Discussing. Okay. Just us.

Just checking.

I'll be flipping these pages around. All righty. Okay. So I think Thank you very much, Teresa, for that report. I believe we're ready to move on to 5.3, Form Ad Hoc Committee for Make Music Day. Recommendation, the commission will form an Ad Hoc Committee for Make Music Day. Are we a commission now? Thanks for the promotion.

The person that was helping us with the agenda runs a commission. So for one day, you are. All righty. Ah, this is going to get fun.

Where's your gavel, Carol? I don't know if it's a commission. I should have a gavel.

You have a gavel. Where do you have it? I know it's there. Oh.

Okay. I'm due today. I was late. Or just exactly on time.

So can I ask, like, how does an ad hoc, how does an ad hoc community for this work? Like, they would be two people working with you to talk to the make music people. Yes.

Because on our work plan, basically, we said we would explore it. So we just need to, like, find out more information and, like, how is this going to work and, you know. What could we do? What's reasonable? Do we want to do this? And then find out all that information and bring it back to the whole committee to say, okay, this is what this would look like. This is what we would be taking on or not.

I volunteered to be on the ad hoc committee. Okay. I nominate myself. You volunteer. I volunteer. Okay. Okay.

You need someone that can Work into next year.

Are you turning out? I'm turning out in December.

For real? Yeah. For real? No, for real.

I don't, you know, I don't want to overstay my welcome. I've already stretched it as far as I can. So, I mean, I'd be happy to be on the committee, but then they have to come up with somebody else.

For the ad hoc committee?

Okay.

All right.

I think we can do that where you start and then when your term ends. Okay. Well, that's novel. And maybe you'll be done before then.

Well, that's true. I did have a conversation with somebody in San Jose about this. I didn't really learn a whole lot, but anyway.

How long would the ad hoc committee be going on for until like the June event, if we were to do the event? Or would it just be like committee meeting up to deciding whether or not we're doing it. Yeah, so we would decide by December. Maybe. Okay, maybe not.

You should have information by December.

We should definitely, yeah. We should be at a decision-making point.

Well, then, you know, then there would probably, I don't know, be another ad hoc committee for implementing the thing.

Yeah, I mean, if it gets approved by the committee, then yeah, there would need to be a different role.

Well, I would like, Valerie here, I would like to move to a point, number of Arjois and Donahue to the ad hoc committee for exploring Make Me Think Day. And if the exploration goes past the end of Chair Donahue's time, then Member Crone on the committee. That's my motion.

I'll second that.

Thank you, Carol.

All in favor. Aye.

Okay.

You know, So the tour at the Lesher Center. Oh, sorry, Chair.

Okay, all right. Moving on to 6.06. Committee staff announcements, updates, requests, and committee reports. No action will be taken on questions raised by the committee at this time.

So just an update. The tour of the Lesher Center in Walnut Creek will be September 12th. I will be reaching out to all of you once I connect with you. the folks at the Lesher to give you more details on time, when we'll leave here, arrival, and about how long.

I'm good.

Oh, it is on a Saturday. Yes.

Saturday at the Mountain View Arts. Yes. Oh. Oh.

Gosh, yeah, I didn't volunteer this year. A friend of mine volunteered, and he told me all the morning shifts were taken, and it can be easily hot. Oh, yeah. And it's a five-hour shift. So anyway, do we have any other reports? Do we have anything else?

The 30th anniversary? not at this time you'll get more can you tell us about the stage oh you want to hear about the deck so um i should i should pull up photos so um the deck the floor of the main stage is being replaced they started um last monday last monday it's like oh my gosh it's been a blur so they started last monday they tore the floor all up and now they're installing the new floor

We did Friday, and then we'll be painting. So we'll have a brand new piece.

Whoa. What material is it?

Well, it's plywood with masonite. But the sprung, you know, like, it's not a gymnasium floor. It's not like a real spring. Right. But we have cushions, and those cushions were like.

Okay. They were like down to nothing. Yeah. Big but thin.

And it was one little square. So now, and now the squares are big, and there's four of them. It's actually working.

When do we get to go dance on it? As soon as it's pink.

Okay. So that's been just a project.

That's huge. It's big. It's going to be dry in the days after.

Yeah, it'll only take it a day.

When's the next production coming in to the main stage?

Um... Well, the city manager's update is.

Okay.

And then other and on other news, the dumpsters out back, which is such a lovely thing to talk about, but. Yeah, I was wondering.

Yeah.

So basically what's happening is that where the Old Wolf Fargo building that is getting engaged and the developer is going to develop that property. Well, our city hall dumpsters sit on that property. So we have to redo our dumpsters out in the back so that we can. So we will be breaking ground actually next Friday at the back of the building. my project but at the back of the building to have a whole new dumpster bins and land gates and where like where the driveway is yeah when you go into the loading dock yeah yeah there's dumpsters there right so that'll all be redone to accommodate the double amount of dumpsters well not double but two more oh two more okay and and to be honest those those those um gates on the dumpsters are really old and heavy and

Yeah. Okay.

So we'll have new dumpsters too.

Do you have any information about what's going into the old Wells Fargo site?

I do not have all that information. It could be exciting for us. It could be something fun.

But I do understand that it's reconstruction.

It's reconstruction. They're going to keep the building?

No, no, no. It's wood construction. It's not going to be one of these...

I don't want to say it's rich.

I don't have enough information, but it's supposed to be.

Oh, it's inside it. But I haven't seen those. I haven't got some of them as your plans.

Thank you for that. You get all the fun jams. Well, I was a little bit in one of those.

You did the plans, and I went... What a bitch. You're so stupid. So that is funny. What a bitch.

I went out with the measuring tape to make sure.

Is it going to hurt people being able to load in?

No, they're going to accommodate us. So we've worked out a schedule. So like the fence will go up. And then obviously when I have like Smewn and they bring their 48 foot truck in, the fence will go back and out of the way. So there's days that they're not going to be able to load in or load out.

And then you want to do a schedule of when I have useful long have all the way through July. It's you'll get it in the down here.

I was hoping to have an extra copies to take after chair Donahue's thing of just carrying around and giving them out to people.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Maybe I'll grab some extras from you on September 12. And we'll have a bunch.

Do we get an internal sneak peek to see all of these? Like kind of how you give us this financial report of like... Oh, um, no one's ever asked for that.

Do you want me to, do you want me to do like a quarterly? Because we have people that sneak in. You want to do, um, like I can bring you like the next three months?

I mean, I think that might be interesting, because I know we've been talking about how we want to see a more variety of stuff. So rather than just seeing it after the fact, like, I'm wondering if like in the future at this meeting, we can see the whole year at a glance. And then at the beginning of the quarter, we see what's on that quarter, or is that too much?

Let me think about it. Um, it's, it's not too much. What I am going to tell you is that there are going to be some shows that you'll know the client, but you won't know the show.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine too. I mean, just kind of getting a snapshot glance of like, okay, you know, so-and-so is here these weeks. Yeah. So that's, yeah.

So that's not, that's a non-issue.

So I have a question. When will the work? I haven't looked at the website. But sometimes there's a delay in getting the work plan posted online. On PAC's work plan. I mean, it's probably too soon for that, but. I'm not sure it's going to cancel.

Okay.

We have to get it done and then it goes to them and say approval.

Well, that's usually useful in recruiting. Yes.

Why would they need to start recruiting early in December?

They'll open up applications in September. They interview traditionally in October, I mean November, but they did it earlier last year. So, you know.

I'm feeling intemperate with it. He said, I'm back here. But I haven't. So my position was on. It's not a year. So if I want to reapply, I have to go. Right.

Yeah, you'd have to reapply.

Yeah, that was the end of December. I see.

Well, I think David is terming out. But he's not terming out, terming out. I mean, expired. It's the end of the first term for him. Sorry. This is his first term.

It's only his first term? That term is two years? More.

More.

Somehow, Donahue's on year 12.

That's because I'm irreplaceable. It's true.

You're on your year 12 or 12th term.

I haven't lived in Mount Butte that long. We won't let you serve more than three.

Okay.

Usually it's not more.

No, I could reapply after two years off, but I don't see that happening. So, can we confirm that we will have a forum on September 16th? I will not be there. Good to know.

You will? Okay.

Yes, I am.

Okay. Pardon me?

Exactly. So, we have confirmed a forum.

I will be in On the east coast of where? Indiana. Indiana and Queensland.

Are you from the states?

Okay. Nice. Okay.

The dates are usually public with our work plan for the whole year, like when we meet and when we don't meet. Okay.

I haven't written any of these dates in my calendar.

It's the third Wednesday of the month, except for July and December.

Alrighty, so I do think it's time for me to adjourn the Performing Arts Committee meeting of August 18th, 2026 at 722 p.m. Thank you.

Your gavel noise, come on. Did you say except December? Except December and July.