City Council - Regular Meeting

All right. Nobody. All right. We will close the public hearing at 6:16 p.m. All right. Council mayor, just so we have clarification. That was for Morgan Farms. Yes. No. One, the first one on the agenda. The presentation was I'll go through morning side.

Morningside was priced simultaneously. Um all the things I indicated earlier are also reflected on the Morningside bid pricing with one exception. This is a smaller financing. It's $3,873,000. And as a result being slightly smaller, these are sold to in institutional funds. They generally like to buy in uh large denominations. The FMS when they sold this um they have uh they we can sell to accredited investors or they can sell to uh institutional funds. Um to to institutional funds usually give better pricing than the accredited investors, the high net worth individual to make it attractive to them. They actually u put only two term bonds in together. And so uh the net result is uh the pricing and comparison uh to the MMD is similar but with the term bomb structure just being slightly smaller had a slightly higher interest rate. Um again when I mean slightly higher five basis points well the previous transaction was sold at a spread of 139 basis points. This was sold at 144. Um uh if you look at page three um in this project uh the $3,873,000 will result in the developer receiving $3,80,000 um for the project fund to build the or be reimbursed for the public infrastructure. They'll again f fully fund the debt service reserve fund and some capitalized interest pay the cost of issuance involved and and um in this transaction um again it's smaller and the actual costs are a little bit higher where the bond project deposit the bond fund deposit will generate about $3 million. The developer will have to add another $2 million uh to fund the $5 million of eligible infrastructure. Um the annual PNI on this parcel will be actually slightly less than on the other

project of two million $2,179. Um and and if you look at uh page four, what's took place here is interesting is that these have um a slightly higher projected home buildout value. Um but uniquely um when you apply the assessment tax equivalent assessment rate chosen by the developer which is slightly less the homeowners pay almost the exact same amount within $20 of each other. In this case they'll pay $2,81 annually. You'll have a assessment leave of approximately $31,234. this project um at at build out um there's two phases, but a full buildout will have uh generate about $300,000 to the city. Again, there's no tourist money funded. They'll pay full taxes as residents of the city. Um again, this one actually benefited by working with the other transaction. They are able to go to um investors with both transactions. being smaller generally um institutional investors wouldn't be interested in the size but the combined sale to both of them made both of them work pretty well. Uh one of our partners is at another um major North Texas city um on another project that has um is a well-known city and and their pricings um were about the same as this. So we think this was very efficient priced um for a community that enter that's kind of entering into the public improvement district project finance and the size of these projects. And also I want to say um that again uh the goal here as your financial advisor is three things to work with your lawyers to make sure this is um the most um current best practices in bond structure to protect the city. two uh to make sure that it complies

with the development agreement you have. No more no less. Exactly. Complies and three that um that's efficient for the developer. So the homeowners uh have an efficient project funded by the developer and we think it accomplished all those goals and we'd recommend approval of this too. So that just to be clear that one there was Morgan Farms. Yeah. Oh, that one was more signed. Sorry, I got them. First one's was Morgan Farms. The second one's Morning Side. But the 4.3 to be clear is for Morning Side. Can you repeat that, sir? I said the 4.3 item is for morning side. Yeah.

So, just I'm just side. I just mentioned it.

Making that clarification for council and everybody here. Any questions on that one? Council for Morgan Farms. No, thank you. All right. 4.3. So, council, any discussion, questions? I guess the only thing we do is just go for it and go for hopefully it works out like we think it was going to way back when. All right, we need a motion. U motion to approve the ordinance um authorizing the issuance of Wait, was that the wrong one? No, mine four.

Yeah, 4.3. Motion to approve the ordinance accepting improving a services and assessment plan and the assessment role for the area number one of the Josephine improvement district number one. Is this a roll call vote too when we're done or um um I apologize. I was reading something. Um this is for the assessment, correct? Yes. 4.3. And I apologize, Mayor. Um the notes that I gave you, um I think I misnumbered them, so I apologize. That little slip belt was mine. Uh it's correct on everyone else's.

Yeah. So this is Yeah. Sorry about that. It's all right. And is this a roll call? Do we have a second? I'll second. It is roll call. Okay. Can we do a roll call, please? Yes, I'm getting my attorney. April and yes,

she raised her hand. She I don't get a vote. No, I know. We need a Yes. Yes. He has verbal. Yes. Okay. She's asking for verbal JW. Yes. Alex Esquavel. Yes. Dr. Pam Sardo is absent. Gary Chapel. Yes. So motion passes. All right. Out of 4.4. Now, this one is Morgan Farms. This is labeled correctly. Correct, Lisa?

Lisa, we need to do the bond ordinance. There's a second a second motion. So, then I make a motion to approve Josephine Pit one a number one bond ordinance version two. Um, this is the 4.5 million. Yeah. 13A, Lisa. It's under 4.3. Yeah, it's it's 20 2026 4-13- A, right? Yeah, I'll second.

Have a second. Roll call vote. I made the motion. April Arand. Yes. Jane Rageway, yes. Alex Escell, yes. Gary Chapel, yes.

All right. Motion passes. All right. So, now we're ready for the next. This is the Morgan Farms. All right. So, we're going to open a public hearing 6:25 p.m. and take comment or testimony on the proposed levy of the assessment property located with the improvement area number one of the Morgan Farms Public Improvement District pursuant to chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code. We have anybody who would like to come up and speak? If not, we will close a public hearing at 6:26 p.m. I'll open the floor for any discussion. Council, if not, we are looking for a motion for the service and assessment plan. I'll make an uh motion to uh accept and approve the 2026-14-13-B the acceptance ordinance Josephine Morgan Farms PID version two.

I'll second. Roll call, please. April Arand, yes. Jane Rididgeway, yes. Alex Esquil, yes. Gary Chapel, yes. All right, motion passes. All right. Now, we need a motion for this uh service and assessment plan. I'll make a motion to approve 2026-14-13- C Morgan Farms PID 1 alpha number one bond ordinance version one. The bond bond. Yes. I'm sorry I said service again. I got the motion right though, right? Yes, you did. Okay, I'll second.

We have a second. Roll call, please. April Arand, yes. Jane Rididgeway, yes. Alex Espel, yes. Gary Chapel, yes. Our motion passes. You go ahead. If I may, may I just want to say thank you all so much. Uh I know we been a lot. It's been a long road to get here. It's been I think six months, a lot of meetings. So, I just thank you for your patience. Thanks to staff for all the hard work and long hours they did just reviewing all this stuff. and I really hopeful that these will be great projects for the community. Just thank you for all for your patience and going along with all this for all the work you've done. Thank you. It's been longer than six months for some of us. Yeah, for sure.

Years. Yes. Thank you for the partnership.

All right, we'll give y'all time to Sorry. All right. Item 4.5. This is the uh ordinance amending the 2025 2026 budget. Melissa.

Yes. Hopefully you guys have all had a chance to review the packet. Um this year's midyear adjustment. I kept it nice and simple. Um you'll notice that right now the admin revenue or not admin sorry general fund revenue is sitting at 74% for the total year. There are many lines that we have exceeded the actual budget which is exactly how I design it. I am always super conservative on revenue. Um, so the adjustment is adding in 1.5 million of revenue that has already been collected above the budget and in turn also a $1.4 million budget adjustment expenditures. And what that represents is just establishing the police and fire department building. It's a rollover adjustment from items that did not get completed in last year's budget. They were in last year's budget, but at the time of the budget creation, it was June, July, and didn't get done in time to come out of that budget. And so, are there any questions on it?

Questions, council? Thank you. Thank you. I'll make a motion to approve ordinance number 26 uh 2026-14-13D midyear budget adjust amendment. I'll second voting signs in favor. All in favor? Item 4.6. This is the monthly planning report from the city planner Miguel.

All right, mayor, members of the city council, Miguel and Klan for the record. Um, this was a relatively quiet month. Um, but a lot has happened in the last week. Um, not a lot of activity in terms of development review. We have two active site plans for commercial development. Uh we will have construction expected to begin in May for the Exxon Sonic gas station at FM6 and Barry. Um no plat activity expected. There was actually no meeting for the PNZ this month. Uh we will uh look at zoning text amendments to remove the gas stations as a permitted use. That's finalizing something that got started almost 6 months ago. And uh a separate item later would be on the food truck regulations for areas outside of our city park. Um the UDC draft is expected to be received by us on Wednesday. We'll have about a week or so to review it and we'll collaborate with the city attorney and the consultant team to make sure you have ample time to review it before it goes out into the public comment period as discussed during the workshop. Um the fee schedule update project with UT Dallas is expected to conclude uh later this month. Uh I've seen some of the preliminary work and I think we're going to get some really good numbers out of that. Um and then the faculty will take over that and then by end of summer you'll have the presentation with the formal recommendations and an ordinance for adoption. Um here's an item on the EPS policy lab later on the agenda. Um, we did go to the rail district meeting to discuss a prospective development south of High Meadow, the large triangle-shaped parcel. Um, we will probably come back to you all in May with a briefing about that. I don't want to get too much into that detail, but we will need council direction on some of these items. Um, regardless of what

happens in that development, we we as staff need to have a policy kind of guidance from council know how to uh deal with these situations as they continue to arise. Is it commercial or is it residential? Um, it would be a mixeduse development. there's very high level no details and and that's something that um I think staff and the developer need to sit down to see what they actually are going to do before we can bring forward a a workshop item in hopefully in May. It was located where? Um it is north of FM6 and south of High Meadow. So it's a large triangle-shaped parcel. It's about 100 some acres. Yeah.

So, um, understand that that's outside the city limits in the ETJ. So, right now there's no zoning jurisdiction over it. So, uh, if the developer decides to annex into the city, then the city would be able to have a development agreement and a ordinance like zoning PD ordinance to control zoning. But, um, I anticipate that will have to be negotiated as to what they want to do. Um, but mixed use wouldn't include commercial, would it? Yeah, it would.

Yeah. I mean the the developer has thrown out a couple things in preliminary uh discussions uh primarily retail with u a mix of single family and and multif family but again this is highly conceptual. We don't know the mix the actual mix counts etc. It's just very conceptual. What they wanted to do was they needed to know how many rail crossings they could get before they go into the design phase and and really that was to know for future development whether this project happens or not how many crossings could be supported there. So could we support huh we would support the crossings

not necessarily. So the discussion is how many crossings could actually be built in that space. There were questions from the rail district about who would be responsible for long-term maintenance. So, so the official agreements would probably be between the city and the railroad, but there could be um would likely be reimbursement, you know, on from the developer to the city for anything that was due. We're just we're not that far along yet. Yeah, we we'll come back to this.

Okay. Um parks- wise, um I expect some items to come up in May regarding the farmers market, the grant program. Um I think that's anything I can bring up right now. Unless you have any questions, we can move forward on the um Exxon Sonic. Yes. and um the one pending down FM6. Are those the con is the construction gonna still be done by Kimley Horner or will we go to the new engineer on that?

Um Dunaway is taking over the um inspection services for that one. Okay. Well, well, city staff, we have a city construction inspector. He'll be overseeing that supported by uh Jacob. Jacob is already reached out to the developer to schedule the pre-construction meeting. So, planning, public works, and engineering will be at this meeting. There'll be both of those. Mhm. Okay. Any other questions? Any other questions for Miguel? We need a motion to approve the planning report. I'll make a motion to approve the planning report. We have a second.

I'll second. Voting signs in favor. We're all in favor. All right. 4.7. This is uh consider the adoption of the food truck pilot program rules and regulations in the food truck pilot program license and user agreement for implement implementation at the designated food truck pad area within the city park.

Mayor, members of the city council, so this is for our pad that's here down the street. uh we collaborated with our new city attorney to develop the agreement and the policies and regulations. There was an error in the attachments and um the second attachment that's the license and use agreement has an exhibit A which contains the revised version of the rules and regulations. So when this if there is an approval motion, we ask that you adopt the food truck pilot program license and use agreement with exhibit A as as presented. Um and really what this does is ensures that there is fairness in the process. It sets the schedule. It sets an estimated fee. Um and ensures that the city is protected from any liability. Um, the way that our attorney crafted this structure is to allow for us to revisit the terms of the agreements as needs go, you know, uh, change. If we realize 3 months from now that we might need to change some of the regulations, we can go back and adjust, make those adjustments as needed. Um, we anticipate that if this is approved, we can start operations probably as soon as next month.

Council, any questions for Miguel or the city attorney? Yes. Um, I have a few, but do you want to go first or you want me to go first? Okay. Um, I have a question about the hours block. Yes. Um, why are we starting at 10:00 or 11 on the first block? So, those were based on feedback we received from uh vendors. We put out a survey and we asked for like what were the times that y'all would be interested in selling. So based on the feedback, those were like the two blocks that were the most consistent in terms of schedule,

which is great, but if we have someone that wants to do coffee or donuts or something along those lines, they can't operate. Well, you know, if if it comes to that point, um, again, we could make an adjustment to those policies and regulations. However, none of the vendors that have expressed an interest, I'm not I'm not worried about the vendors that have. I'm talking about the future vendors that don't that haven't expressed interest because they didn't know to. Well, because I'm looking at it as I would expect that I mean we got Twilight Coffee just up the road now, right? So, I would think we would see folks wanting to do that. So, I think we need to adjust the hours for sure. Okay.

Let's say it does get to that point. What's going to be the process for the vendor like to to schedule? So, we're going to create a scheduling module online. It's going to be relatively automated. Um, we'll create slots based on uh uh space that's available and then these vendors will have the opportunity to reserve in advance. So, if it's outside, let's say the a vendor wants to show up at 8:00, but our hours dictate outside those blocks that outlined in our policy. What kind of process is is it going to have to go before council and it's going to take a month? Right now, the structured Yeah. I mean, staff staff doesn't really have a lot of easy.

You also have to remember this is not going to be a park it and leave it site, too. So, right. Um it's going to be I'm sure that's going to play a factor in it as far as they're not going to park their trailers there and just leave them. There's a provision for there. There was a provision based on feedback from from from you all to to allow for overnight parking in some instances. Um there were very few people who actually from the vendors who said they would do that, but we still left it open in case we have somebody who wants to be there longer term. Um if if we need to go back and adjust this, we can. I mean, we're not I I mean, I I would like to see that the first block start at like 5:30 in the morning. Personally, okay.

And then I don't understand the gap. The gap was actually at the request of some vendors for allowing 45 minutes to take down and then for the next one to take about takes about 45 minutes to get up and running. But if you rent block one and block two of that day and you you don't have to worry about the gap. No, they wouldn't have to. You don't have to break down, leave an hour and a half and come back because that's not that's not how that's not how it's written. That's not the way it reads.

I don't know that I can actually vote on this particular item because I am in the process of buying a food truck and I have done mass research on that before I opted into this and I don't I don't know where these time slots and where these numbers come from because I have done a lot of research and we have just here that visits Magnolia now. We have coffee shops, we have doughnut trucks, and we have waffle trucks. That those are all like we're going to want those before we go to work for the day. We're not going to want those at 10 or 11:00. And then also like my food truck is a novelty truck. It is not like a regular food truck. And so like it not starting until 5:30 in the afternoon, that would be a huge deficit for my personal not that I I don't know that I'm going to rent a spot here at the I mean we may just do festivals. I don't know what all we will do, but ever given the opportunity to rent here at the city like a 530 for a novelty truck. That's I need like after school I want to like mom picks up the kids after school and they've had a great week at school and they want to swing by my truck and get a snack. That's like this cuts me completely out. And I know there's other vendors like myself. So I would want like full day rental, not not hit and miss. the times that are on here and then the price that's on here. Like I have checked a whole bunch of places locally and if you divide um whole month rentals uh place right up the street is $25 a day basically is what they do rent the whole day and it provides power, water and sewer. And then there's a place over

off of 66 that's $20 a day and it provides power, water, and sewer. Okay. So, what hours would y'all feel comfortable allowing? I would do all day. And if it's like a coffee or breakfast thing, I would want them to be able to hit the pad by 5:30 to be open for business by 6 o' I say you rent it and you rent it for the day. So, a full day block, 24-hour period.

Yeah. And if they only want to stay half of the day, say that they have something they want to do now, but then they have a a game to go to or a festival to go set up or whatever, then they're welcome to leave. But I would say for the whole day, I think it'd be a lot easier on whoever's keeping up with it, too. It's going to be um less work. Okay. So, especially if it's automated. Well, the other thing, too, is if if they only want to if they just do the breakfast thing, they're going to be gone by lunchtime. Yeah. A little after. So, two o'clock is your typical slowdown in any restaurant. That would make more sense to break it around two. I think we all agree on that one. Yeah. One day, do you rent it for the day?

Okay. Correct. And then if you leave early, you leave early. So, next If you come late, you come late. Yeah. That's up to you. You come whenever you want. If you don't, you're paying the same fee regardless. Yeah. And and I'm I'm the fee itself. I I agree. I mean, if if people are paying $20 and they're getting all the services and we're not providing anything, that is for a whole month. That is for a whole month. Could you break it down for an entire month? Um what are the thoughts of doing more of a cleaning deposit or a deposit that's, you know, as long as they don't damage anything or go down those paths or charge something minimal?

I mean, we're comfortable with any fee. I mean, we're we're not like you mentioned, we're not providing much of a service. So, you're saying the fee over there, though, that's they're basically getting a break for renting it the entire month. But they're also getting water, sewer, power, electric, which is huge. Yeah. But where's Also, you got to remember the location, too, though. Like, is it a prime location like here where there's a lot of foot traffic? Is this a prime location? Oh, it is off the highway.

It is. I'm saying with the with the foot traffic with the park and the 50 people that we come up here and play basketball, there's a lot of people up here on a nice night. So, I guarantee if you park a food truck out here, you going to guess you're going to get some you're going to get some people. So, I think I mean I think yourself or anybody sets up, you're going to pay for that spot because that's all I'm asking. Is it is it a good location? Yeah. My only fear is we get nobody to do it because of the fee. I I really I wanted this to be as successful as possible, right? So, let me let me backtrack. Try the fee at this rate and then if that doesn't work out, but she's

you said that we could redo that at any time, right? So, if we did it for 60 days, I mean, we can make the terms of this agreement 2 months. Um, I will say that that fee was was also included in the survey and all the vendors expressed comfort paying that fee for. How many vendors did you have respond?

12 to and most of them were local that are that I know are operate around here. So, I felt comfortable adding that fee in those blocks. So, be you know and and I I understand the the concern about the gap on the scheduling but some of the food trucks said like I go to different place sometimes even in the same day, right? So, um, if the intent of this program is to activate the park and have a constant flurry of activity, I worry that if we do a one like a full day block and it gets reserved by one person, but they're only here, say, in the mornings or they only come here in the evenings, but that might become a challenge. But if you like, let's we can try out the full day block and if we realize that it's being left empty for significant amounts of time, then we can revisit that. I think I think this Miguel, there's a couple of things that I think this would be good if we had the full day block option.

Okay. And then we also have the half day, but I think it needs to be like 5:30 to 2 and then from 2 to midnight or something along those lines, right? So, change the block if you could be comfortable changing the having two blocks, but just changing the times. Okay. I mean, or or do the whole day thing, right? The whole day option because I think that accomplishes both things from what the vendors are telling you, right? Mhm. How many spots do we have if the pad was completely full? Well, that's that's going to depend on the uh size of the trailer and length of the trailers or truck. I say three to four that come in. We were going to start with four. We're going to start with four just to be comfortable. If we need if it could fit more, we could, but I think four was going to be a good baseline.

Okay. So, now what we could do is we could do two slots that are full day slots and then two slots that have the half day option. Yeah. If that works, we can we can work to restructure that and and line up the spots and we can add the exhibit here highlighting which spots are going to be that way so there's no conflicts. That way people also know, you know, where are you going to be and so forth. Um I do like the idea of either adding a deposit or lowering the fee. I think I think $50 a day is is a lot. So I agree with that. So 25 a day total and 1250 per block if they do have day or just do 10 a block or 20 for the day.

Okay, that's that's fine. I'm in council. I mean I'm just one voice. I agree with that. I don't really have a basis to go off of that. So the deposits are too much. Okay. Yeah, I can to refund the deposit. Yeah. Yeah. So just up front, we can do 10 per block or 20 per day, whichever they want to do. Okay. Okay. 10 per block, 20 per day. And what about the So like 5:30 to 2 and then 2:30 to 10 or something like that. Well, yeah. When's when's quiet hours? Is it 10:00? Where's the police chief? Park closes at 11, right? 10 or 11.

Okay. Got his attention. When is the bathrooms locked? Supposed to close at 11:00, I think. What are the park hours on the website? Or what are our park hours? I believe it's 11. Okay. 11. Yeah. So, okay.

If if if you'd prefer, allow me the time to talk to the vendors cuz there was a big concern in the gap. At first, I had a 30-minute gap and they said, "No, that's that's too little. moved it to 45. Some vendors even said, "No, even then that's we left the 90 minutes just to allow for clean up and things like that. But if you allow me, I can go back and talk to the interested vendors and come up with a new block schedule and I can talk to them one by one and say, "Here's what we have and we can come back." It's only going to affect the two of the slots, not all four. Yeah. If we do two all day and two half day. I mean, so the people that want a longer block the full day. Yeah.

Or they could just rent both blocks, right? Yeah. Okay. I I don't think that that's going to be a big deal. I think people that are taking it for the the half a day, they're going to get out quick, right? Yeah. So 5:30 to 2 and 2:45 to 10. Huh? So, like 5:30 in the morning. Yes. Yes. 5:30 to 2 and Okay. Well, and they'll have to figure it out. I mean, we'll let the vendors sort it out and they will figure it out. Okay. And that'll be daily uh every day. Like, we won't worry about weekday or weekend. We'll just leave it like that.

Um there will be a gap though. Like, if the farmers market does come on, we're we're going to have to maybe adjust those weekends. Yeah. Yeah. Adjust. So, that that was my other question. And when your city does their farmers market, they have their food trucks set up around town so that the farmers market is bringing in the customers, but then they've done a little shopping and now they're hungry and so they're immediately going to all the food trucks around. That's how Roy City has their No. And we that's that's what I'm saying. We'll have protections for the food trucks to stay there independent of the farmers market. So running coinciding together if if it comes to that. I thought you were saying you were going to block it out where they couldn't come those days.

No, the only time there will be a blockout will be also just for special events like the 4th of July because that's just something completely different. Christmas in the park. Yeah, Christmas in the park like the major events. Okay. Um were there any other concerns you had? Um

no other concerns probably. Okay. you're still comfortable with the overnight storage if if they rent for a particular period. If it becomes a problem, we'll come back to you and let you know like this is too much. Yeah. My whole thing is do we have a penalty clause or something that's really in there about um if if the house if the area is just being trashed out by the by certain vendors? There is a uh yeah, they won't let them they won't let them. They won't let them but how how are we enforcing it, I guess, is the question. You don't let them rebook it. Well, that's true, but if they're leaving the park, I mean, and it's causing parks the parks department's having to go back and clean up.

I mean, I'm sure we'll have a case by case and something will be in there. It will be handled, you know, internally. But, uh, all the ones I've talked to said, "We'll bring our own trash can for the foreseeable future." And, um, if it comes to the point where the city, if it's such a success and the city can make the investment in more furniture and trash cans and things like that, I mean, well, they're going to I mean, they're going to it's going to be popping, especially when that splash pad opens. And I hope so. That park is full of people. I'm telling you, during the day and then at night, in the afternoons, that park has traffic. Okay. Well, we'll make the adjustments. If you think of anything else in the interim, please reach out and I'll work with our attorney to get this fixed.

So, y'all bring it back to the next. Can Can we make a motion to approve with the amendments? Yeah, you could. We just have to verify the the amendments. I guess we can just say the amendments as stated, the two time blocks and then two time blocks and $1020. Yeah. Am I allowed to vote on this considering I have a future or should I sustain? That's I didn't understand. You're saying you just thought about getting a big truck in the future. No, it'll be this week. It'll be this week. I will own my fireworks as you

this week. Okay. Thank you. All right. All right. So, I'll make a motion to approve the ordinance with the um two blocks of full-time, two blocks of part-time, the part-time blocks being charged at $10 a block, and then the full times being charged at $20 a block, the hour starting at 5:30 going to 2, and then 2:30 to 11 for the second block. I'll second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Motion passes. Um, April. Oh, you substain. Oh, I thought you raised your hand.

I did not. I don't have any internet. Just FYI. So, back to the paper board. Okay. Item 4.8. This is a consider approval of a temporary building permit under chapter 14A of the code of ordinances for a modular classroom build building located on the First Baptist Church campus.

Mayor, members of the city council, um this item is uh rather unique. It's a unique situation. Um the the modular building was installed about a month ago. Uh there was confusion amongst the church and the staff as to the purpose and nature of this building. Um there was really not sufficient time to address it before the building went in. So um after discussions with our building official, our staff, um we determined that the best course of action is to bring before you a temporary building permit request for that building to be placed on the site for a period of 18 months. And then the ordinance allows for renewals every 18 months. That way council can determine, you know, whether that building really constitutes a true temporary structure or a permanent accessory structure. So the way it's set up, there's no solid foundation. You know, it's not no connections. So it's right now I can I can't treat it or classified as an accessory structure. So, we're kind of um finding an option that I think protects both the city and the church um with this temporary um permit. I mean, they could end up building an expansion and not no longer need this building down the road, but we just want to make sure that it's on the record that there's been some sort of approval because we as staff cannot grant the temporary permit approval. Um, the representatives from the church are here. They they sent the letter in support and it's attached to the report. They're here to answer any questions that you may have. They don't intend it being a permanent structure. I guess it just like overgrowth or something.

Yeah. Come on. I'm just curious. Is that why y'all like y'all didn't want to go like the permanent structure? It's just like temporary for overgrowth or

Yes. I mean what it was is uh we weren't financially prepared to go on the route of a of a a new building or structure like that. We would we would like to say that we are uh but this actually fulfilled uh the purpose of uh you know continuing what our to meet our needs really in a in a temporary type basis. uh our our endgame goal or our end goal would be to uh potentially uh build uh you know across our street to the west uh on that property there. But at this point uh the revenue is not there uh while we're experiencing the growth. It's just it's just not there. But our our prayer was initially was always to be able to accommodate uh that new growth similar to the new growth that y'all have been receiving. and uh a Baptist church in Iraq wall have found we found out about this structure they were using the same need this they they fulfilled their needs they're building the church and this had to go away well found about it came our direction

thank you sorry if I gave you more than you need no that's perfect so this will uh if approved will satisfy the church's needs as well for moving forward for Well, for short term, yeah, we believe that this will allow the city also to ensure right that if it's, you know, 18 months from now and then another 18 months, well, at that point, whoever's in council can decide whether to keep it going or not, leaves it out of staff's hands. But we believe this is a the best course of action for everybody, including the church.

Was this all has it been just has it been checked for code for electrical and stuff like that? So, the the permits, you know, the electrical installations, I don't know, Patty, if they've been inspected already or not. They haven't, cuz building official wanted to wait for council action before moving forward, but they will meet all of the requirements for a temporary structure. How'd you come up with 18 months? That is actually the the way the ordinance is currently written that it goes to 18 months.

Can Can I ask a question on this? I I went through and I looked at that, but it also said extensions may be granted by the city council. Can we just grant an extension maybe go 5 years? I mean, considering how long it takes us to get anything done in the city with finances and I know right now with it's just to come back in another 18 months, I think we would have to change the ordinance, wouldn't we? Well, and it says extensions may be granted by city council and it's kind of silent on but I don't think it's bearing on 18 months or I believe that yeah let me

I mean to me it could be open-ended with that. That's why I brought up the question. Yeah, that was my same question. And do we have to have a plat do they have to do another plat? Because there is a plat out there. I went and looked. I mean it's one of the older ones and I was I saw that a building cannot be issued on unplatted land but the land is platted the the the land the the property they want to make it the the the property as shown in the uh appraisal district let me just double check I mean it's it's one of the older pls but I did look it up.

Regardless, we could approve it for tonight. It could be brought back and I'm just trying to save later. If it's not in the ordinance, we could or we could we would have to change the ordinance or it's going to have to be done every 18 months, but we could address the ordinance at the next council meeting. The other thing is this this Okay, this what 24.2 2 construction yards, fields, and offices, other temporary buildings is where I was looking at. She said 24.2. Quite frankly, I didn't even see it out there, Clay. I I don't understand.

I didn't even see the building when I drove by. I had to really look. It looks really good. I don't know why my internet's not just won't work. It just went off.

Yours was not working too. That's Is yours not working? It's working. It's just doing like Mine did that off and on. I I got it here. Got to love technology. Someday technical.

So I think 18 months because it's the not to exceed language that not to exceed 18 months and then it can be extended. Okay. So, 18 months, not to exceed Okay. So, we they would come back to council after 18 months. And I mean, I do recommend that they come back to council before that time. That's what I want. It expires on this date, but we're going to continue to come back a little early and get it extended. Yes. Okay. I like that. But it can only be extended at 18 months at a time or at that point, can it be extended longer? if you change the ordinance. If we change the ordinance. Okay. But if we can get But for tonight, I think

Yeah. No, I don't disagree. I'm just thinking with schools and everything else that are going to come up that the portable buildings are a thing, right? Yeah. And I went to that meeting and that could be they don't get it done. Yeah. Ellis is going to have the same problem. So that's that's I'm looking at the other problems. That's right. Those would be considered more like permanent accessory structures in in the sense that they would require like an engineered foundation, water hookups, things like that. This is a special situation that's not similar to that. And at the same time, this also what's what the per the process you're going through right now would avoid the church having to go through the site plan process, right?

So, this this process is the simplest. Now, if it becomes a more buildings and things like that, then that would trigger a site plan with engineering review and things like that. All right. Okay. Good. All right. We need a motion. I'll make a motion to approve a temporary building permit under chapter 14A of the code of ordinance for a modular classroom uh building located on the First Baptist Church campus. Second. All right, we have a second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Motion passes. Okay, next item 4.9. That's also mine, right?

We'll give you time to leave.

Um, okay. So, uh, this is a followup to to UTD's, uh, policy lab, uh, project where they could answer policy related questions for the city at no charge over the summer. I do know that, uh, last month there had been a a question of whether they can complete some economic development analysis. Um, and um, Dr. love uh mentioned that that might fall outside the expertise of these policybased students. So um he did provide uh some of the questions that and that he's already advertised for. So um this was more food for thought to kind of help refine what the final research questions would be before we bring them back to you in May for final approval. um to address the economic development uh portion uh I did reach out to UTD's economic development team and their business school. So they have a institute of real estate who has offered to do a baseline uh grocery focused uh uh market analysis for us at the end of April for free. and then their uh institute of retail research that they have at UTD would work on the fall on a full-blown uh market and demographic analysis to answer all of the concerns that were put forward by the council at the last meeting also free of charge. So if it is in the council's interest, I could let UTD's economic development team know that we would be okay with those two projects as a separate item and then we can u tell Dr. love, you know, hey, we want to focus on a different policy or governance issue for for this other project. So,

okay, the EPS, yes, is not the economic and development and real estate. They're two separate things. Yes. To me, that's what we need more than some of the other things that I saw listed. I think it was in the planning report. I think there was Yes. Yeah. It was just a baseline.

Yeah. So, uh, the the response from UTD about the April project in the fall happened very late last week. So, I it was after the agenda had been published. So, that's why I'm following up. Um, the question here is, you know, what now that we know the economic development team at UTD can do all the other things. What do we want this particular group to focus on? I'm only interested in economic development and the real estate and the okay the market analysis personally. I mean, we've got um I mean, we've got consultants on the other things that we have, I think.

Well, the the idea behind this project was to address some of the like policy questions that we would want to, you know, prepare in advance of the legislative session. And I think Lisa and I had brainstormed some some ideas uh particularly when it comes to you know muds or versus pits or you know addressing what what the differences could be and implications for city policy and finances down like long-term finances. Um there are also some GIS projects that they can work on for us or with the public safety teams. I mean that there's a lot of possibilities but the school focus is more on you know governance and and criminology policy rather than economic devel right right now I I would like to see our retail be worked on more than anything

well and we can't just focus on one thing though so I'm open to I mean if if we're talking long range 40 years for the college doing it that's fine I guess giving us But basically a free assessment and service too. So this one would be free. I thought economic development is free. Both projects policy and uh uh real estate and and um marketing would both be um I personally think it's good to get the students involved and see real world things. So I'm good with both programs. Okay. Um,

and this is just a directional item. There's no action. So, from from this list, are there any particular ones that you would want to focus on for Dr. Love's project? If you need your GIS, my computer's broke, so I can't see the list. GIS. I restarted it, but it's still not working.

And and again, those were recommendations. What is uh how many are they looking for a number of projects or what? One to two, maybe two max questions. Um but but you know it's it's a long it's a three-month project based on at research finding. So government and policy and then economic development and planning. That would be two for them. But that's a different department. That'll be a different project. So just scratch. So that'll be one one for each. Are we looking for two? Just one or two as a whole from these.

Sorry. So when we're looking at the thing that says economic development and planning that are all four of those things underneath there one category those are some of the policy questions that could be answered but that can be taken out because we'll have a whole other group answering all of those. So so we just ask that out. So then okay like you know so they're looking for two one to two and and again we can refine these in May just finalize them but but I think

one or two they want to start narrowing down from this list start narrowing down towards two. So if you want to focus on maybe just one category. So what's the list? What is the list? That's what you have. What is the list that you're referring to? Show me here. Yeah. What are you referring to? These bullet points. Yes. So, every bullet point is and we need to have how many? Just one or two.

Two to three for now to refine and then you can final finalize the questions in May. But we want to narrow down from all of these bullet points to maybe three to to further refine the questions and then we bring them back in May. So under governance and policies, policies and options for um mud reform I think is a very hot topic for the city. Um we can talk about that when we get to the um legislative agenda. Um so I'll be looking for your blessing to speak to legislators about

So if we're doing it that there then we don't we don't need to concentrate on that with the college. Why don't we go ahead and go to that item and then agenda if we want to? Yeah. I mean, we could table this item. What are we talking about? No, we're just trying to narrow the list down, right? So, if we think the government policy pieces are going to be done at a later time, then we don't need the college in that. We're trying to get the We had a consultant for the police department already. We did that one. Yeah. We're overthinking it. I think so, too.

What is staff's recommendation? What did y'all think? Well, you know, that some of the ideas that had been preliminarily discussed are going to be addressed through the agenda. Mhm.

Um I I do think that some of the more latent challenges that there might not be enough data on is for example the public safety challenges that the chief was having right in terms of cost of service and also the uh enforcement challenges right that the municipal police departments have when contracted by special districts. So um there because most of the research that we have found and and UT Austin is about to finish a study on on muds in Georgetown uh focuses too much on like the finance implications and but but I think there is very little research on the criminal or the public safety aspect of mud developments and given that this is a school his he's a professor of criminology the head of the criminology department. I think that that may be

then that should be the direction a better course of action. That's the direction then, right? Maybe I disagree. I mean, I guess my question is if they come in and they do a study on that, like we still can't change the laws on how the police can work in the mud. So, then did we just waste our time doing this study? Well, it's it's not because I I I think that just adds a fuel to Yes. like they could identify things that we might not know about that could help us, but at the same time, their recommendations are things we could add to our legislative agenda to show Austin, hey, look, we may have found a solution that could work for everybody

and they could implement it. Like that's that's the goal of this is to identify best practices, if there are any, and what are the things that might need to change at the state level to solve the problems that municipalities like ours are having because we're not have the gap, right? Yeah. I mean, and and there's cities south of us now, like in the San Antonio area that are starting to experience these pressures because muds are so new to them down there. So, it's it's starting to creep further south. And these questions are being asked statewide, but nobody's really trying to find an answer other than just, well, we you know, we don't know. We don't know what to do. So, if they did that one, then you'd need what? one more bullet point or uh

or would that cover it? I think we can cover that and then we can bring up a final scope of work in May.

Okay. All right. Next item 410. Review the draft of the planning and zoning commission application form and provide direction to staff. Uh, mayor, we we um have several vacancies on the commission, so we're just trying to finalize a a new format for our application. Um, this is just the word version. We were we're going to create an electronic form also for ease, but but the content is not going to change from what you're seeing here right now. So, um, I had sent it out for review. I did get some feedback and questions from some of your colleagues. Um those comments I think have been addressed. Um I did make a a revision or two so you're seeing the latest version. But um we can publish this as soon as tomorrow uh so that we can fill vacancies by next month. And and the intent with the expanded application is to give you and the PNZ when they do their interviews more context as to what their thoughts are on the land use issues that they're going to be facing in that role. Trying to get back to the correct agenda. My internet's working.

Yeah, I think before I got on the PNZ, it would have been eye opening to see something like this. Yeah. What? It would have been eye opening to see something like this before saying, "Yeah, I'll do it." And and we plan on having a more robust onboarding process for these new commissioners. um especially focusing on land use law and and also APA training memberships for them to be able to attend some regional trainings here in the DFW area. Yeah. Council, is there any questions? My only concern is this going to scare too many people away? I don't think so. You don't think so?

Uh we've we've had already four people ask when are the applications dropping because they're very interested and I explain all of these things to them ahead of time. Just stay. Are you sure? Yeah. All right. Is council good with this? Yep. If we are, we entertain a motion. I make a motion to approve the new application for the planning and zoning commission. I'll second.

Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Motion passes. 411. Consider the adoption of an ordinance amendment to chapter 4, article 4.03, 03 sale of alcoholic beverages repealing existing regulations and adopting a comprehensive new article 4.03 establishing updated definitions permitting procedures, distance requirements, reporting obligations and enforcement provisions.

Um mayor, members of the council, this um ordinance was brought forth at the request of um a couple of your colleagues. It is based on a neighboring community's uh existing ordinance and this is in anticipation of a potential um election to allow the sale of mixed beverages in the city limits in addition to what we already have. So um some key components is just to allow for updated and expanded definitions that align with state law. Um starting a structure permitting process because we really don't have none and it just piggybacks on the states but it includes a zoning certification. And that's and that's typical for cities. Um there are um some provisions to allow for temporary sales at city sponsored events. So if for any reason council decides to start selling alcohol like not council but the city or having a vendor that that allows us

be selling it. Okay. No. Yeah. Sorry. Forgive me. Yeah. I'm not I'm not Yeah. I'm not getting into that business. Um something new here that that uh I think was of high interest to the council is uh the quarterly reporting requirements. So um there will be uh re uh audits I guess to to ensure that they comply with that 50/50 rule. So um I know that was something that was heavily important for the council. Yes, I actually didn't see that anywhere in the ordinance. There is a section I read it a couple of times and I did not see that. It's a section titled records. It's towards the very end. It's 4.03. 9

and it's a quarterly reporting during the first year and then it becomes annual. No, I didn't see anything that said like the amount of food versus alcohol. So that's going to be just double check.

Yeah, the affidavit shall include the sales of non-alcoholic items and alcoholic beverages. It's towards towards the end of that. It doesn't have a percentage in there of saying what's what, right? So that is we just defer to state law at that point. Okay. And state law is 50/50. Mhm. If the license requirement is for restaurants, it's it's the 50/50. So we just make sure that it's consistent with those state rules. How does that apply to food trucks? Does it apply to food trucks? Uh food

So with SP 108 that passed just this last year, there are going to be some changes. So, for example, um with regards to the fees in there, we have in there that it says unless exempt by the state. Um so, certain changes went into effect where if they qualify as a restaurant, they're going to be exempt from additional fees for local permitting for alcohol. Um, and under a separate but um I guess joint type of legislation um that also uh went into effect, there are going to be certain food trucks if they hold their certain certifications from the state that they would qualify as a food establishment that would also fall underneath those rules. um in those circumstances once they have that full state certification um they're not starting July 1 July 31st I think um they will not be a they will also have to be permitted by the city but the city will still be able to apply zoning regulations and the distance regulations

yeah for for health permits and that's going to be on my next agenda item no I I was just curious can the distance does it have to be 300 ft or can it be greater than that if we'd want it to be the council So, can at at the I don't know if anybody was interested in that, but 300 is awful close to a school or a daycare. Yeah. That's what typical, but I think that y'all could go greater than that. I mean, I I just thought I'd I don't think you can go below. I believe it's the minimum, but I think the city can enact it further.

Yeah. I was just kind of taking on my properties a little. I thought you couldn't go greater than 500 or something. You can't um And I'll let the attorney research. Um by the time you go the way it says you have to measure the feet, that 300 can be it's from door to door in a diagonal line. It doesn't have to be a straight line. I mean it could yeah I mean it's based on our school locations it's highly unlikely we would have right now that would

yeah we would have a conflict now now now there now here is the question though like if you have an existing establishment and somebody comes in does that they're vested right the estab the alcoholic beverage establishment gets vested so you know What about homeschool? I'm just throwing it out. No, it doesn't count. They don't count. It I saw that in the ordinance. Okay. He said he can extend it up to a,000 for schools. Okay.

If if the school requests it or something like that, I think the schools have to be notified. Yeah. They just have to be notified that we can still do it. No, we can move it to 1,000 ft. They don't have to be notified. We can move it to 1,000 ft. We don't have anything now. So, now would be the best time to do that. 1,000 ft is still not that far. It's not that far to keep them apart from each other. So he could also write it to for a variance of I believe. So just take it to a thousand. I think a th00and would be nice.

I don't have a problem. Now before I don't even think that the school now it it it's 1,000 ft before you actually even get into town. Give me one moment. I'm trying to think where the school is over here going to 1777. That still would be farther. It's pretty far out there. What if they decide to put for some reason down the other way? I don't think that would that would not pertain to the school in the mud cuz they're not even in our city limit. Doesn't matter now. The only one they're worried about is the one that's down over here, right? Or over there. One of those. Yeah. But if they try to put one across the street, that is more than 300 ft. Yeah. But I would I would think a thousand feet would be better.

I do too. just to keep it away from and ultimately in the end it's probably not going to matter because we're not going to have a commercial within that school. It's all residential over there. The probability of them being able to do it is low. So I don't see a problem putting it there. So the section that does allow it to go up to a thousand feet says it the governing body would first need to receive a request from the um from the school district. Okay. From the board of trustees. So we can't it's the same for a private school their board.

So you have to set it at 300 and then if the school district or a private school comes to you and says hey we want it to be extended then you can. Okay. But to set the 10,00 foot baseline right now I I don't so we can't even if we don't have an ordinance we can't do that you can't change 300 it would contradict you have to set it at 300 it has to be requested that's the state law community community would have community the community board would have so is there any other things on this item so keeping us from moving forward do we need to do anything special with the planning and zoning no this as far as fixing anything.

We'll bring back some zoning regulations, but we need to have the alcohol approved by the voters before we put anything in the zoning ordinance. So, we'll work on that. Um, and the election, I believe, is before the next meeting. So, we may have something kind of ready to go, but you all may want to look at it for a month before you actually approve it. We can't put it on books before we So, basically, the only thing we're doing with this ordinance is getting compliant with state law. Okay. This is we already have. Oh, but this is for hard liquor, not like beer and stuff at alcohol. So, we already have some. Yeah, this is just getting Yeah. Yeah. This is All right. We're looking for a motion.

Um I make a motion to approve CA-26001, an ordinance amending the alcohol um I'll second. All right, we have a second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Motion carries. All right. 4.12 staff briefing on proposed food truck zoning regulations to allow existing food trucks to operate within the city outside of the Josephine food truck pad.

Mayor and members of the city council, um, as you know, there's two food trucks currently operating down the street here at the corner of Sebastian and FM6. Um and when that situation came up, we we expressed to the uh residents that or the business owners that our code did not expressly allow that land use, right? So um they are there provisionally at their risk and they acknowledge that at any point, you know, they could be removed because there is no zoning law that formally allows them to be there. And us being a general law city, if some if a land use is not written as allowed, it's disallowed. And that's independent of what staff feels about any specific land use. So to protect everybody, we uh are uh letting you know we plan to bring forward some regulations to the zoning code to allow uh define food trucks as a use, establish zoning districts where they can be allowed, and then establish a permitting process. and whether you want that to be, you know, through u an SUP and require site plans. Those are the guidance that I kind of need from from y'all right now. Um I think the SUP process would probably not include a site plan requirement because these tend to be, you know, very rudimentary uses, right? But as long as there's some baseline provisions that allow for some sort of control, hygiene, and things like that. Um, this is independent from the the Food Trunk Freedom Act that was recently adopted by the legislature that only controls health permits, but everything else that's that the city can control, we can. So that would include also hours of operation or noise or things like that. So, as we work to uh adopt this and we might bring this as soon as next month, uh we would like to know what are your like key concerns from council that you would like

addressed here. How how big do they plan on letting that place expand with as many trucks? Well, that's we don't have any plans at the moment then. That's the thing like we want to we have any foresight on what they have said. So, if if Well, initially there's two. I mean I I I I don't think they want to have more. Is it commercial or is it private? The that the I talked to someone today who mentioned um they might want to have three there. Okay. So So and that's the point like we would establish regulations that set a x amount per square footage or something. Yeah. Like x amount per square feet. Yeah. I mean we could do that. So but it's commercial property. Yes.

Okay.

It's commercially sold property. We have in the ordinance flea market which covers food establishment which food trucks are food establishment and so um I don't have it with me. I had it on my computer at the house but that is in there flea market sounds a little but I mean I read it. It says food establishment. I looked that up and then I think it's Texas code 25. I saw it over here on the vendor thing from planning and zoning that they did in 22 that said that food trucks were find it. I think we might be doing yes 25 Texas administrative code. I think the word food establishment includes roadside food vendors, mobile parks, stationary mobile food vendors, mobile food vendor push carts, blah blah blah. When we started as a council a few years ago with trying to establish the food truck park within downtown, we wanted to be able to kind of control where it was. But, you know, one of

zoning and then it came to council. Yeah. The one of the biggest things that that we didn't have anybody that was willing to give up commercial property to start one cuz I think the city didn't want to get into the food truck business, right? Um, but now that we're down that path and we've got it and we wanted to get it going is great. I personally love the fact that they're out there. I do too. You know, and the the property is going to be taken by the state sooner or later. I mean, it's like it's almost like we go through the the whole thing and then it's going to be gone anyway. I just like the fact that it's showing there's interest in in businesses in Josephine and we're bringing food into Josephine. Amen.

And I think this is a great step forward for the city and it's a good first step for the city. staff's just looking for some parameters. Yeah. So, what what we're trying to avoid is a proliferation where like there's one every like 200 feet on on a random road. That's where I was going. It's independent of this existing site like So, if anybody has a food truck over in Jabberry or shows up over here on the parking lot in Fountain View anymore, that's not going to be allowed. These people are used to those. The food trucks are where people are getting them now.

No, we we want to formally allow them to continue to do these things and protect them to protect their right to continue doing these things. We're trying to establish zones, right? So, I I'm I mean, anything that we're doing for retail to bring businesses and because at the end of the day, we're hoping that they build a building. We're hoping they these people will build a building. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we want to support them. We just want to make sure we have the legal framework to support those for that. I'm not I'm not debating that. I I think this is a good What are you asking us for? Uh what are your like red flags? Like what are the things that you say don't don't I don't want them in the middle of a subdivision. Okay. So I'm I'm looking at

I don't want 30 on a lot. But if the HOA wants to have a food truck at, we'll we'll establish we'll establish an exception for open spaces in subdivisions. Yeah. If it's if it's land owners, they have commercial property and they're not doing anything with it. I think it's a special use permit like you were saying. We we have them come in and do a special use permit for their lot. Kind of like what they're doing up the street now. They come in and and do it. Special use permits. I remember when we did the snow cone machine and that that was a public hearing that we had to have on those. Yeah. Cuz it was actually in her property. Yeah. Well, that was the insurance before that. Yeah. Yeah. And we just didn't have anything, right?

Yeah. I mean, the SUP process allows the council to control how they proliferate or not and you know, special provisions and conditions that you might impose that you say, "Hey, this is a lot bigger in scope than what you know, say is happening on this corner." Then so if me I decide I want 10 food trucks on my property I just come in and say I want to be zoned that well if you're looking a special use permit and you just establish some parameters I mean my I'm just using me as an example but I know we have lots of commercial property out there maybe somebody wants to do that with

so um my question like um fountain view for instance has that little parking lot out in front and I've seen several people set up out there. Is that something that we could zone that as Yeah, we'll carve that out. It's got parking. Yeah, we we'll carve out say like for for HOAs that commonly do this, we'll carve out provisions to protect that to continue to happen. The the challenge becomes and and this is where I think I'm trying to avoid because I drive through Princeton every day and there's probably like 20 out there now. Yeah.

And uh some of these don't have no facilities and at some point you start having concerns about grease traps or drain like like water sewer service things like that. So those are some of the provisions that I think we might need to establish. It's not meant that stopping them from operating just make sure that they don't go out of control because as you go through Princeton I mean it's it's starting to become an issue because uh they're just proliferating everywhere. But isn't that taking place with this bill that you were talking about? Well, this is this is if somebody doesn't want to work with the city on this pad, they're going to go out there somewhere else. So, we just got to make sure that there's fair. So, what do you need from us to move forward with this item?

Just guidance. And it sounds like the number of of trucks per per square footage is a concern, the special provisions for HOAs. Like, our neighborhood doesn't have an HOA. Our neighborhood doesn't have a green space. Our neighborhood doesn't have anything. So, would our neighborhood not qualify for something like that? What if like we've had your residents have the food trucks come out before? We have had residents have food trucks come out and they did wonderful going to happen. I'll brainstorm some ideas. Okay. But we'll make sure that's protected. I think each of those subdivisions have to has to have some sort of protection. But we don't want a food truck in every driveway, right? No,

that's that's we'll come up. So, we'll have a sprinkler in every house to use the water. We're excited to have them today, but like the concern is, you know, if you we start getting it'll be here in a couple. Yeah. You have 20 in a neighborhood. Oh, and then noise. Some have music sometimes and if they're like right by a neighborhood, you got to be careful with those things. So, all right. That we're good. Thank you. All right.

Next item 4.13. This is a monthly engineering report from Dunaway. Oh, sorry. All right. Good evening, Mayor Council. Uh, Jacob Dewi with Dunway. Also brought Jonathan Smith. We actually have a handful of items that are back to back to back. So, the first thing up is the engineering status report. So, on development review, as Miguel kind of mentioned a little bit earlier in his report, it's been um somewhat of a a little bit of a lighter month. Um we are kind of stepping in and helping take on the 610 East Cook Street project. So, really kind of get caught up on all the plan reviews, all the status of everything, correspondence with the developer. Um there's also the executive session with that 380 economic development agreement that'll be coming up a little bit later in council. So, just kind of getting caught up with them and making sure we can understand what needs to be done to get them to the final finish line with all their paperwork. Um, also I don't have it written on here. I meant to include it was as Miguel mentioned the uh the Sonic reached out to them earlier today to get a pre-construction meeting set up sometime in early May. Kind of looking at that first week right now depending on how schedules fall so that way they can get started on uh their construction for it. move into the engineering design and projects and just various stages of construction. Um we actually have the north wastewater treatment plant another line item coming up here on the agenda for one of the ch change orders. So we'll talk about at that time on the North Texas meter vault project. Um I think I mentioned last time I was here that that project was actually supposed to be wrapped up back in March, but we ran into some issues getting power to the site. They actually needed us to establish a 911 address for it,

which was a little bit challenging kind of based on its location. So, we finally have that. Um, got a work order with Encore to get them out there to get to it. So, we're just pushing on them to get that wrapped up ideally here pretty quickly and get that project completed and turned on. Um, we've got the um the Milt Street and Cat Street repair. That's a bid opening that we had last week. We have that as agenda item coming up a little bit and then that rolls into the Milton Street gravity sewer line improvement project which we will be closing out pretty soon here with all the paperwork and documents. And then we have one final agenda item on the ground storage tech improvements and I'll talk about that one when we get to it. Any questions on anything not on the next agenda item?

Yeah, nothing on the agenda that's we're facing address. I have one question. Yes, ma'am. I went back and I reviewed the February 28th meeting and you said something about there was an amendment with TCEQ and I wanted to know what that was. So, are you talking about for the wastewater plan? I I don't know. I believe we were talking wastewater at the time and then you said something about and we have that amendment with TCEQ and I'm like what was the amendment? And I went back and I tried to look and find stuff and I couldn't find it. So, sure. I thought I'd ask you.

Um, so you have a lot of different items at TCQ right now. You've got two discharge permit. One of them is a renewal for the Magnolia wastewater plant, right? You know, you renew those every so often. Um, you have a new permit request in TCQ right now for the North Wastewater treatment plant. And I know from y'all's permits and other permits that they are just absolutely behind on everything right now. So everything is with it's it's in their courts right now. Nothing with amendment. I just wondered why you said the word amendment. That's what caught my attention. I can't think of anything right now that is an amendment. Okay. 1.38 on that video. You can watch and maybe it'll spark your memory. I'll do that. Yeah. Let me make sure. I'm not thinking. But I can't. There's a lot of times I don't.

You think of anything that's an amendment? Okay. We'll check. Okay. I'll check into that. Any other questions for the Make a motion to approve the engineering report uh for April 7th. I'll second. We have a second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Motion carries. All right. Next item. 4.14. This is the to award a bid for the Milton Cattle Street Rehabilitation Project.

Yeah. So, we're going to pass out. Um, like I mentioned, we we did a bid opening on April 9th, which was last Thursday for this project. Um, I know we've talked about this project um probably starting back in February where what was ultimately decided is to change order out the existing roadway repair that was within that sewer line project. And then there was some kind of an expansion, if you want to call it that, to do a little bit more roadway work. Um, picking up where the school left off with their sewer line. And so that's ultimately what what we ended up kind of packaging together as one project and going out for bids. So we had 10 biders for the project. Um, the lowest bidder was Acre Ankor Contracting from Sulfur Springs in the amount of $236,530. Uh, we've worked with Ankor Contracting. they've actually worked on projects within the city of Josephine. I know

Garrett's got a good report with them. Um and so the number that kind of coincides with this is we are working on a change order with um port excavating for roadway repair and that number that we're going to be looking to apply to this project is $256,000. So we're actually within what we're considering budget right now. There's a little bit of contingency if something comes up, but we're looking to fully segue that roadway repair project out of Horton Excavating um and recommend awarding anchor contracting this project and have them commence their work on that.

So on the Horton, that's not the just that's not the concrete driveway. There was there's more up here on the original the concrete drive. Yeah, there was a concrete drive in here for 57,500. So, the road part here is going to I didn't notice any road part in the original contract

with Ankor. I'm sorry, with Horton. So, with Horton, um, they're the ones that were the contractor for the sewer line replacement, that 12-in sewer line replacement, and their contract with the city had more of a generic line item that mentioned roadway repair. And so, I think it it was a total of like 300 something thousand. Um, they're getting credited for some just for returning the road to a drivable condition. And so what we've identified to change order out the rest of it and close theirs is that $256,000 non-American. So what So that's a different contract than the water. Yes. Yes.

Okay. What projects has the anchor done in Josephine? They did the uh TCBG Mil Street project on the west end of Milton Street. They did that with the drainage ditch improvements. Okay. A couple years ago. Um I don't have they done any They haven't done any roadway projects. So they did that very first iteration of Built Street. We all had TXDBG money to do it.

Okay. And then they've also um we we worked with them separately. The city of Farmersville also a roadway repair project for very similar kind of residential streets, stuff like that. So perfect. They've got very good experience. Uh we have no problem. I know who they are. I just I don't I didn't recall them doing the asphalt down there.

So 236, we're getting 256. So we have 20,000 for change order if needed. Yes, sir. Council, any other questions? If not, I looking for a motion to award the recommended contractor.

I make a motion to approve uh Ankor Construction LLC the contract for it's 415, right? One for Oh, for the Milton Cattle Street rehabilitation project. I'll second. Sorry. One or the other. Let's go again. Y'all were tied. I'll second.

Okay. Voting signs in favor. All in favor? Motion carries. And when do we think the when are we going to you're going to award the bid and what are we looking on start date on project idea? I checked with uh Chuck with Ankor. Um pending contracts and bonds getting in. Um he's estimating he can get started end of May, start of June. And what is their time frame on completion? 25 over 30 days. Are we going to put that in the contract or? Yes, sir. All right.

That's all I got on that. And now we got an inspector on site. So, next item. This is the 4.15 discussed considering act to approve a change order number three for the north wastewater treatment plant project in the amount of 1 million59,33 for sludge handling modifications. I think that number is a little Lisa said it was there's a net amount there's a net amount

that's different. It's $466,156. So, um, yeah. So, the number is a little deceiving. The the action item is for the change order mallet in that $1 million. But, um, and I think y'all have probably kind of remembered this. We've been having discussions on staff preference switching to a belt press versus the screw press item. And so, the reduction to take out the screw press from the plant is in the $500,000 ballpark. Do you have the it's I think I have it roughly five. I don't have that number actually. Yeah,

it's the difference that so the total net increase for so decrease was 592 from number that one. Did I not Total price for the screw price. What's the difference of this 1 million and that 450? So the total price increase is $454,196.85. So that would be what the city would be looking to pay for that bell press change.

Can you say that again? So if you take in consideration that change order number one is it not 466 when you look at change order one and two together which oh go ahead 466 15685 I calculated it okay the way that I was looking at it because change order number one is a is a different item purely comparing the screw press to the belt press the net increase was $454,19685 cents. I was just trying to figure out where to run the contract from original to here. Yeah, which was that 466,000.

So, just the two key points. Can you state those again for the record is odor and efficiency?

Yeah, and I mean Garrett can feel free to weigh in. I know he's been doing a lot of research on his own, but in general the staff's feeling is that, you know, this the screw press um as we kind of mentioned, it's a it's a slow automated process and what it leads itself to is just it it takes a little bit longer to process that bulk amount of sludge that's built up over time. And so they've had to have staff continuously kind of monitor it, keep up with it, and that leads to those large um rolloff dumpsters sitting out there for, you know, days at a time. And so with the belt press, the intention is for it to operate quicker in its sludge processing. Um moves at a lot more rapid pace. And so what staff is able to do is watch it in that time frame. And the intent is that it would not be an overnight intention and monitoring. And once that rolloff dumpster is completed, you know, within that day time frame, it can be taken immediately to the weight to the to the treatment facilities and deposited over there. So, helps control the odor by not keeping it around for such long periods of time. And I know the staff looks favorably on more uh condensed timeline

and have um plants to observe that have belt press versus Mhm. Yep. They um one agreeable. Correct. Correct. That's the same. I believe that's the same one that y'all are looking for here. The city of Farmersville has a belt press. Um a little bit older model. Uh Greenville has one as well too. And that's the one that we've observed. I'm sorry. the screw conveyor system. What did we have in place of the screw conveyor system that we're adding? We're adding the belt press. We're removing the screw adding the conveyor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're removing the screw press.

We're not actually doing nothing. We're trying to do a change order prior to completion. This says conveyor, but there's a screw press and a screw conveyor. So, we're adding a screw conveyor. I think that's what she said. And the belt press. from the press to the dump to the dumpster. Which one are you looking at? It's on this page with the 1,59,000 where it says like so that replaces that triple drop shoot system that you would have had with the screw press. Okay.

And this is recommended to be um so what it does it takes it the the sludge from the belt press and transfers over to the to the dumpster. Initially what you had was the triple drop shootute conveyor system which was a completely different system that caught everything from the screw press and took it to the dumpster. So that's what it's a swap different and we've already discussed all this account. So I just wanted them to make some key points and bring it up.

Well the key point also is we're getting a credit for this 86,000. We're doing away with the sledge holding tank. So we don't need a sledgeholding tank anymore. We're not going to come back and say we need a bigger sledge holding tank and we're going to have we're not going to have to have any more money because here's my question. Back in 2022, we did the 5 million to start the sewer thing and then we've had changes and changes and we're up to give or take if you take out the 10 million for the public safety building maybe 17 million. We've spent 8400 or 8,470,000 already. We had the 5 million, we had the 10 million bond, now we have this other bond. I just don't want to spend any more money for somebody saying, "Oh, now we've got to go."

A lot of those are increases, too, with the market. We had,

you know, it it's 750 7.5 is what we started with, and that's what we settled for when we did the public safety building. We brought it down from the 1 million, which is what we said we were going to need for the future. And it I was looking at it and it says the 7.5 is going to maybe serve, if we're lucky, 28 2,800 homes. So, are we going to come back in another year or less and say we need more? the the deal with the you talking about sewer plants. I mean, they're they're expandable and you you expand them as needed, but this one here is to do how many gallons?

The 7.5 or so. It's 750,000. 750,000. 700.75 million gallons. Yeah. 750,000 gallons of treatment capacity. That original bond amount that was about 5 million um that was for a design that we did first and then we decided I guess with input from staff the SB was better to an SB. No more lagoon do SBR and then there was a delay in the project which also yeah cost

consider yeah we it's it's been a long lot of changes and decisions. The very first iteration of the plant was a 500,000 extended aation system and then the staff requested um can we match SPR which is what we currently have so that way we're operating similar style treatment techniques and then there was an increase on top of that from a 500,000 to a 750,000. So the very first iteration yeah was a lot smaller and a lot relatively cheap. But the first one was unrealistic. That would have been a terrible decision to extend the the ponds. Correct. The odor would have been couldn't be any worse than this. Crazy. So maybe this will take care of it.

I just don't want us to have to come back and you know. Okay. Council say we can't do any questions or discussion commercial. That's my thing. This item. All right. All right, I'll make a motion to approve change order number three for the North Waste Water Treatment Plant in the amount of 1 million 59, $33 for the sludge handling modifications. It's actually an increase. Do we need to put the amount of $466,000 in the motion? We we can show it as a net. Okay. All right. Do I have a second? Second.

Voting signs in favor. Voting signs oppose. I'm going to abstain.

Okay. Motion carries. Next item 4.16. All right. Oh, sorry. Go. This is the uh direction provide direction to staff to proceed with design and preparation of the bid documents for the ground storage project which will be funded using previously acquired bond funds and capital recovery fees.

Yes. So I know this is also another item we've been talking about for quite a while. Um, you know, we we brought you guys some updated numbers at the workshop session and then there was kind of input from council, you know, to maybe explore some other options. And we actually had another bigger discussion uh with Garrett and staff on what do we absolutely need right now? What is staff's um desire for this next capital improvement project of the city? And so what we what we ultimately decided on is the installation of a 1 milliongal ground storage tank at pump station site number two. So at that point we looked at what is the most cost effective version of that ground storage tank look like. So and I know we've talked about differences between ground storage tanks whether they're above ground whether they're buried. And so right now you'll have a buried concrete ground storage tank which tends itself to be a little bit more expensive just in general uh concrete versus steel and also burying it. So, we provided you with a cost for another 1 milliongalon buried ground storage tank, which that by itself does not require um improvements on existing pumps, changing those out to make sure you can fill the tanks. Doesn't really require anything more than actually just burying and installing that ground storage tank. And the other option is the above ground one. which would be a welded steel has a little bit cheaper upfront costs. But after we were able to do a little bit more research, um the way that pump station number one is set up would be y'all would still pump from that pump station and fill the buried one, but

then you'd have to put in what we're calling a transfer pump installation where you then fill the above ground one because the pumps at pump station site number one can't fill that unless you do pump station replacements at pump station number one. the way that the pumps operate on a curve, their uh their head values, they don't work out very well. And so really to put it simply, what we found is that these two these two options are actually pretty comparable in cost once you take into account the actual transfer pump and the electrical and controls needed to install them. Cuz what you don't want to do is not be able to fill that above ground one at the same pace that you're, you know, distributing it out into your city. So, you need some pretty hefty pumps right there. Um, and I think in talking with Garrett, what what we would like to recommend, what we would like to see is probably moving forward with option number one, which is just another buried underground storage tank. There's no improvements needed at pump station site number one. There's no extra pumps or electrical controls needed at pump station site number two. And this gets you guys right here at the actual kind of city limits about a million and a half gallons worth of ground storage. And so that buys y'all a significant amount of time. Um especially as some of the other projects will come up with the developers and some elevated storage tank. This gets y'all really through the next several years if anything on storage and kind of keeping up with demand.

Wasn't the purpose of doing the above ground though to move it at a later date? I'm not going to do that. So, we're not going to do that. That that concept has its own challenges because you kind of are starting over from scratch at wherever you decide to move it. And keeping this pump station site number two where it's at gives y'all better direct control of pressure and volume into your city. Okay? Cuz if you relocate it further, that never needs to go offline. That's a bad that'd be a bad decision to have all that infrastructure over there and then kill it. That's option two right there. This is two up here, right? Yeah. Number two is what we call your closest.

So the the other concept that we discussed was combining them. You almost would have killed both of them and tried to put them in the middle. Mhm. And that you would have been starting over from scratch. Both infrastructure would have been replaced and attempted to be moved if it could. Um, to kill one, you got to kill them. You got to redo it all. It's It's enough. Yeah, I think in an ideal world that would have worked out, but that's that's incredibly difficult to maintain. Underground is the correct way to go.

That's our That's our preference for this improvement for where it's located, for what y'all kind of have as y'all's operational setup. The um less maintenance on the back end. Mhm. It's saves you, you know, pump or anything upgraded here in the future. That's we're going to get with y'all will eventually look at more pumps, but you won't have to replace them immediately with a ground storage tank project. How much time does this buy us?

In terms of um capacity, years. I mean, I'm thinking you probably would actually look more into doing your own elevated tank in like five to seven years or maybe longer depending on how rapidly maybe some of the other Dr. Horton developments grow out cuz they're planning to do a 500,000. Mhm. Hopefully this summer they'll get started on it. Yeah, that's going to be a big and yeah, that'll last on top of that another five

and then the amount of I mean regardless of what any papers say on engineering the with this online the amount of ground storage is a lot of water for Josephine. That's I mean you're talking you could be blowing water lines out of the ground like I mean this is tremendous amount of water. Sure. So I foresee 10, you know, 10 12 years before we even think about our own.

And then if you have developers coming in line, that's where them talks come in and you say, "Hey, you can come to town, but you're going to put us a water tower up. It's not only going to serve you, but it's going to fulfill our needs for 10 years the same way that we've done with Dear Horton." So if you do it right and you make those negotiations correct from the beginning, make them understand when they come to town, you're paying the city. You just wait for the deed to come. So when we had this discussion before though, didn't they say in a couple years we were going to take one of these offline? That was what their original plan was. Yeah. So now we're going to keep both of them.

Correct. Yes, ma'am. And it's not because she was saying that we only had a couple years that this was going to buy us. Yeah. And so you're right. So there was a number thrown out like around 2029 would be kind of a next ground storage. But that was under the plan of abandoning both stations and kind of starting over. So you would be starting you would be doing I think that plan though honestly I'm not I think erase that plan from your mind because that plan is it was not a good that's why we decided to look into expanding the one so that we wouldn't have to upgrade the second one and then cut it off.

Go ahead. We h we have to maintain pump station number one because North Texas cannot push it any further than that. That is why last council meeting we proposed purchasing adjacent land. Is that the one that we were going to cut off that they were saying? That was what they were trying to do. They were going to cut off number one. I thought they were going to cut off number two. They were trying but that was not at the recommendation of okay us. So okay. So we're going to keep both. Yes. And this is going to last approximately how long? It it's varies depending on your growth, but I mean you you wouldn't be looking at a ground storage tank for maybe 5 to 10 years.

Yeah, you're going to be more in the lines of looking on a an elevated storage tank. It just depends on the growth. I mean, you can't really predict. It's you can go off a number of homes, but um it's growth. I mean, how fast are you going to grow? The growth has slowed down tremendously. So it has

um you could say 10 years and then it could explode and you may need something in five, but then you may not need it for 20. So but I think if you're going to do the infrastructure for the elevated, you know, it has to happen. It's just a matter of which one. I would not go adjacent to what you have the inground storage. It's less maintenance. overall durability and aesthetic. It It does look better. And we got room on the property to do it.

With this one, we've allowed We had $3.1 million in the bonds for water. And so this is going to be more than that. So, do we pay for that with our water? We we have money from developer contributions. Okay. Just want to make sure we're not going to do another bond. No, no, no bonds at this time. I'm good. This is fully funded. It out there, you know. I will. Okay. I'm good.

Council, any other questions? So, I think the only thing that we just is if y'all are okay with the 1 million gallon buried, we'll we'd like to go forward with design and getting if that advert advertised and bids and we'll bring that back to you guys in a couple months with some numbers to ideally award at that time if everything checks out and get started with it. Our intent would be that this would be complete or close to complete by summer of next year. Okay. These developers, have they have they come yet? or we think they're coming. I just want to be clear on you said developer funds would do the rest of it. We have funds. Okay, they're there. Yes, ma'am.

Thank you. Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Next item is 4.17. This is the Kimley Horn and Associates. Is anybody here? there. No, there's a brief report in your package. Um due to the change in engineer, they are down to about three items. Uh one is Greenville. Mhm. Which is expected. It's had a few bumps. It's um not expected to be complete until the fall. There's only three items.

Yes. I had it in front of me a moment ago. Thank you. Um the public safety building flood study. This is after after the building. So, they did um a look at it before and then they have to file I guess the final um elevations with FEMA and yes, and Jacob might be able to or um Gary the one might be tell you a little bit more, but they're looking at just making sure that they have the asbuilt information filed. So, they've been working on that. It shouldn't take long. Um and then unified development code that's ongoing and you were at the workshop recently when we talked about that. So that'll go on for a few how many more months? Late August.

Late August. Are we still on track for the May 4th joint session? Yes. The question I had I didn't think we had to do a flood study on that when I thought when we first did that they said that we didn't need a flood. They built it up. So we have to file what was actually Okay. So, even though there wasn't a pre flood study except for the 2009 one that we have since they built it up, we do this one. Is that what I'm They did do a little bit of a study. It wasn't extensive. What do you call that original? Was it a Clomar and Lomar? Did they do a clo I didn't think they did one

I think to start with and then they have to file what actually was built kind of like we do with the bad example but the plats. So, we do you know we file the plats after the infrastructure is in place. So that whatever is filed is actually what's on the ground. And this is about the elevations. Okay. Then I missed the part when they did the the Clomar or the Lomar because I didn't see it wasn't as extensive as they thought it was going to be originally. So originally they thought it was going to be a lot more and then it ended up being a better situation. Well, I thought we had the discussion when we bought the property it was going to have to have a flood study. Maybe that was where they said no, they weren't going to need it, but then they did. But that's good. I'm glad they're getting

All right. Is there any questions on the Kimley Horn engineering report? We entertain a motion. I make a motion to approve the 2026413 KH engineering status report. I'll second

voting signs in favor. All in favor? Motion passes. All right. For 18. This is discussed. Consider an act to approve a res a resolution adopting an initial legis legislative agenda for the interm period following a Texas legislator's 89th regular session and in preparation for the 90th legislation session authorizing limited representation and policy advocacy activities consistent with the adopted legislative agenda.

Uh yes. So we brought this to you I believe at the last meeting um but we were missing a couple of people. Um, also the last one was was specific to that Reset Texas uh coalition. They've been slow to get started. Um, and I don't know exactly what the next step is on that. So, I broadened the language and the resolution. I brought it back to you. Um, but this uh is about we are between the 89th and the 90th legislative sessions. Um, but during this time it's not inactive. There's going to be interim hearings on lots of different topics. MUDs being one of them. It's a hot topic right now. Um, we've been we've known that for a long time, but now other people have really caught on. Um, so the House intermes were in your packet. The Senate charges were just released, so they're not in your packet, but those said about the committees that are going to take place, and there's going to be hearings. I just want Josephine to be able to tell our story because you've got a great one to tell. Um, we've done some we've had some great successes with our developers and then we've identified a lot of places where there are holes or loopholes or things that are missing or things that need to be changed so that we can work with our mud developers um better. I I think truly we have identified some things that the developers themselves were actually be relieved to see. Um, and I've got a little bit of a list. So, uh, one is the county authority to establish child safety zones. So, cities can establish child safety zones, counties cannot, and we've got MUDs with schools located within the neighborhoods. So, you know, the 200 uh 2,000 foot for I guess home rule cities can do and the 1,000 foot that general law cities can do for um registered sex offender distance from from schools and places where children gather. Counties can't imple, they don't have the authority. So, one would be to get a bill that allows them to do that and or the muds. Um, so I think that would just

is just a safety thing. Um, the other one, and this is kind of a long shot, I think, but I think the state may take a look at it, and that's creating a new department. For the sake of just what to call it for now, I called it the department of special district oversight. I think there's enough muds in other special water districts out there that we'd be better served um if TCQ stuck to environmental and there was another agency that looked at the overall creation process and um regulation process and the finances and things like that. So TCQ was originally meant to be an environmental agency, not not oversight of how detailed these muds get and how complicated they get. Um so that that was one that I'd like to see changed. Another one is the one-time service integration fees. Uh this is where we did have success. We were able to negotiate cost participation uh for our public safety building and we've had great success negotiating other things, but the law doesn't specifically say that um they always have to pay their fair share. So a lot of cities have had trouble um and counties too have had trouble getting their fair share of in infrastructure, whether that's public safety infrastructure. Yes. Or um roads or sometimes utilities, whatever they're needed. Um it doesn't always work out the way it worked out well here. So I think this is where we can kind of show um how it could be. Uh the other part of that is expansion of um municipal ordinances beyond city limits by my mutual agreement.

Um so that we can if they want to, they could adopt um our city ordinances. we could actually enforce them. And the other flip side of that is court jurisdiction extending that court jurisdiction to do the same because if you have one, you don't have the other, it doesn't really work so well. Um, another one, this is a loophole that I found out this year that I didn't know existed, and that's um, you know, that they we have a a new law as of the last term that um, property owners can withdraw by petition. and we put a couple of things in place including our MDD and our industrial districts uh to prevent that. There is a loophole and this is how Greenwood Mud got out of our ETJ. If that you if you lie in two ETJs, you get to choose. A MUD gets to choose. So they're going to go with the one with the least restrictions. Um so we lost Greenwood that way. So, um I've got a proposed one that uh would actually if if you have an established MDD and or industrial district that that doesn't apply. Um the other one is we have a lot of trouble when the as as we've seen when the mud changes from developer run to um citizen run and while or resident run while the residents mean well and everybody's got really great intentions um there's not a lot of training there and there's not a lot of understanding about how the muds actually work there's I think some mis uh understandings about what can be negotiated or renegotiated versus those original agreements that were in place for a long time. So, it's hard to look at a a development and you you kind of put these things in place and then you think it's going to be a 20-year deal or a 30-year deal very long term and all of a sudden people want to change the rules up. So, we just think there needs to be a lot of there needs to be a transition plan in in place or that's what I think. Um the next one is really hard and I really don't know what

the answer is but this is about the single voter elections that take place. It really makes a mockery out of elections, but almost every mud um or special water type of district, they will plant a voter in the middle of an acreage somewhere with a temporary structure and that one voter becomes the only voter in an election. In the case out here, they were also the same voter was also the early voting clerk. And it's just amazing. I actually filed um with Secretary of State's office and made some complaints. And what I got back was a letter that said, well, there were irregularities. It didn't rise to the level of criminal activity, but there was voting out of vehicles. Um, there was no voting where they said there was going to be voting. There was no utilities hooked up to and and not that it would have made a difference anyway because it was a single voter kind of thing,

but they didn't even try to carry out what the rules were. So, I don't exactly know what the answer to that is. Um, I've got a couple of ideas that maybe can start some talk on it, but that definitely needs to be talked about. I don't think you're going to get um there was I think the and I try to stay out of the politic part of it, but I think the Colin County GOP talked about a uh in their platform that they were approving um talked about having a percentage a number of residents related to the amount of acreage. So, and I don't have the number in front of me, but you know, if it's 100 acres, maybe you have to have so many residents um that are lying within reside within for a period of time that would vote on this. The thing with that is I think it might backfire on them one because those people won't be there later. So, it's not really going to have it's not really going to matter. So, what we're worried about here is the in voter and the surrounding um subdivisions or the surrounding service providers that it kind of gets stuck with them. So, I don't know what the response on that one is. I have some ideas on how to fix some of the others, but that one is going to be an ongoing conversation, but it needs to be talked about. The other one is uh governmental representation on mud and special district boards. And this is not what I think would be nice is if there was a non- voting um uh participant from say city Josephine or if it was an ESD provider um that would sit on the board at least for a period of time. um so that all parties know what's going on because we don't always and although I do try to look up the um the mud district's meetings and kind of keep tabs on what's on their agenda. Uh the meetings are held uh in Dallas at noon on a weekday and it's a half day adventure to get there, go to the meeting, sit there and then come back. So it's not always very convenient. But if we could appoint, say we had a, you know, council and and one

of you was appointed or you could appoint one a staff member. Um, and we had somebody that was just kind of dedicated to communicate with them and then they could talk about, you know, did you know that this is happening in the city because it might affect you here, this is happening in the mud and it might affect you here. It might kind of head off a couple of, you know, some big big issues that we've had here recently. So I actually have um Does council have any questions or I have bill summaries and I have sample bills and I'm meeting with one of our representatives on Wednesday. And what this would allow me to do is kind of give a blessing for me to go talk about those things.

Um, but I kept the language very broad because we know from whatever is talked about in the very very beginning, it will morph and change a hundred times before it actually gets to a floor for a vote anywhere if it does make it. But this would allow us to advocate um on behalf of Josephine. So, I'm not real comfortable going out and talking about things unless I I kind of have your your backing. Um, and we did this similar thing uh last session for TML question. I have I have I have a question about

the um I'm find it here. policy organizations. Who are they and who are the non There was something in here about nonprofit. There's some So, there's a lot of advocacies out there. Um I'd I would like to know who those are before we did I don't mind doing it writing this without those. I don't want to see Coats and Rose involved in any of this.

Okay. So, what we did last time was we talked about a specific coalition. So, I've removed specific names. Um, particularly that one has just been a little slow to get off the ground, but this would mean um Texas Paw Policy Foundation. There's uh North North Texas Commission. There's there's a dozen or more um advocacy groups. TL can be an advocate for cities as well. So, if any of those takes up one of these, it would be us maybe joining forces with them. I don't know who they are right now. I don't know exactly who's, you know, who's going to support what, but as it develops over a period of time, um, even though the next session won't talk start till January, they're having all these discussions that are starting now. So now the platforms are kind of created for the individual parties and they're starting up with their legislators and they're starting those discussions. I just want Josephine to get in on the beginning of those discussions because if we bring them to them next October, November, they start filing bills in November for the session that starts in January and it's too late. So, I just want us to be able to have a have a conversation and um we can refine this as it goes along. So, that's why I didn't put any particular names in there because I don't know who's going to support what at this point.

So, I can bring what you just read is I didn't see this allows me to have a conversation. Okay. Basically giving her now wait a minute a chance to I'm finished asking my question. what you just read off, I didn't find it in this document. Correct. Or am I missing something totally different? No, I just left it broad. So if for instance, but you were speaking in more specifics.

We we talked in a lot more specifics at the last meeting. So I took out all the very specific language and I just put in broad language. Um there could be a you know any number of um associations or um groups that decide to support or not these things as they develop over a period of time. So legislators may have their own ideas. I've got some of mine, but they're going to be, you know, lots and lots of ideas and they'll change and they'll morph and some will grow together and get more defined. Some may get tossed out the window because the developer would never support it. and we would like to get some of the developers on board with supporting these as well.

I wouldn't mind getting involved in this. I did you had authorized representatives and I didn't know if that was somebody outside of city staff in here. So it would allow any of us um well I think I put myself and I put council in here

and that would allow us to approach um other things that I think we have um we need to have a say in is just you know every every session we lose more local control as far as you know but zoning matters um you know we can't annex anymore unless it's voluntary and that happens rarely um so we just don't want to see uh last year there was a lot of really threatening um legislation and we got out of it because we were a smaller city and some of those bills get bracketed into cities with larger populations. So, we got a little bit lucky, but I think some of those are going to come back and one of those was you couldn't turn down zoning. Um, it was less than some god-awful number like 35 homes per acre or something that you couldn't deny it

like lot size 3,500 square feet minimum lot size. There there were other bills

that would mandate cities to allow multif family and commercial zoning. Uh there's legislation on on the granny flats being allowed by right regardless of a city zoning ordinance. So those are types of issues that will come up, right? And these interim sessions is when you start forming those opinions and lobbies and I'm going to throw in APA, the the the Texas chapter of planning association as one of the groups where maybe Lisa can also collaborate to address those land use issues. But um there there is there is likely going to be even more uh legislation that limits even smaller cities like like us from controlling how we develop.

I think it was a narrow escape last year on there. There were some very very narrow ones. I mean there was one also about building permits going through a third party. Like you just show up and like oh I got my inspector to sign off on my plans and you have to approve my building plans. you know, those are real threats. The um accessory structures in the backyards that would entirely change our infrastructure needs. So, you know, we um we look at what we need per single family unit. We didn't design our infrastructure for I think we had enough information council to make a motion one way or the other. So, ready to move forward. I only have one quick question. Go ahead. I'm assuming we're going to get kind some kind of updates or monthly reports on this.

Yes, I'd be happy to do that. I can add that to um every agenda if you like and I can put a short report in uh just like you have the other reports. I could put it on consent so you can read it or I can talk about it

if there's any forward movement movement on anything or if there is a specific bill that I I think that we should go down and talk about. Um if we have time I I I would bring that to you, you know, for your support. So then I'd like to make a motion to approve the resolution adopting the initial legislation agenda for the interim period following the Texas legislation 89 regular session in preparation for the 90th 90th legislative session authorizing limit represent representation and the policy advocacy activities and consent with the adoption of legislative agenda with consent agenda updates moving forward.

Thank you. I'll second. We have a second. Voting signs in favor. Voting signs oppose. Did you vote? I raised me hand. Oh, you were in favor. Were you in favor or opposed? I didn't I didn't see. I said in favor. Okay. All in favor. That's all I wanted to know. So I could If you're going to let me if you're going to let me go do it. I'm going say yay or nay from now on and then everybody will say yay and nay and I we won't be able to know who said what.

What? All right. 4.19. This is discussed considering act to approve an ordinance amending the subdivision regulations exhibit 10A section 5.4 street names and signs. it. Uh, so this is bring being brought back to you from what we discussed previously and all this is is implementing what council has um wanted us to approve. So this is the actual ordinance. So basically all this is is um English alphabet being used for street names and just numerals, you know, and numbers 0 through nine.

So I'm good with that. But the wording of section B, it says all new street names must be English alphabet and the word and. I think that actually should be or um following the either a numeric format or a single letter format because the way it reads now and and I'll defer to the lawyer, but the way that I'm interpreting this right now is that we can only have first street, second street, third street or a street, B Street, C Street. There's there's no there's no other way to do that based upon the way that that and statement is in there. So, it should be the English alphabet and or the following. Yeah. Okay. We can do that. I think that's I think you're right. Okay.

Yeah, I missed that. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. I that's I think that's what we talked about at the last one. That was going to be an old statement there. Okay. If you want to um move with that change, we could do that. Okay. That that's the only thing that I saw in there. You making a motion? I am, but I just lost my screen. I make a motion to approve the street naming ordinance with the change in section B um to read. And this is where I don't have the line anymore because it's not coming up. There you go. There it is. Um, all new street names must use the English alphabet or follow either the numeric formats or single letter formats.

I'll second. Have a second. Voting signs in favor. All in favor. 4.20. discuss and provide direction to staff regarding a possible purchase of Microsoft Office 365 from April through October for city council members. I make a motion to forget this because I was the one who asked for it and I think that's an astronomical price.

Any other I can I can keep doing what I'm doing. It's fine. So I make a motion to No motion needed. Anything? No motion. No motion needed. Council that for for that many license that's awfully expensive. That'll help with the million dollar. All right. Compare. We will recess into a um executive session at 8:30 p.m. pursuant to section 551 071

to council will consult with the city attorney regarding legal consideration for chapter 380 economic development agreement between Josephine and AB Petroleum. Also regarding municipal utility district public safety fees. Please.

Let me know when you're ready. You go over there. All right. We will adjourn the executive session at 9:02 p.m. and reconvene the regular meeting. Um from the executive session the 8.2. Do we have a motion for the motion? No. Great. I'll second.

Nothing signs in favor. All in favor? All right. And then other than that, there was nothing else from the needed a motion. So, wait a minute. Do we have something else? We have 8.3. Okay. Does any council members have anything for consideration to be placed on a future agenda?

I want to entertain the second amendment of Riverfield where we can get the baseball field and after the 500th house, which I believe may have been done already, and get that park going if possible. We're we're actively working with them, but I'll be happy to put an update on there for I'd like an update on that because I've had two citizens ask where we're going to get a baseball park. It's coming. And I saw that in there and I thought, great. So, you're good with an update? Do you want agenda or just an update? Well, wouldn't it be

put it on the agenda? an agenda for an update for everybody and citizens can see it if they want to see it in that transparency. We need a motion. I would like to see it on the agenda. I make a motion that we can put that on the agenda. There you go. All in favor? Is anyone else? I make a motion to adjurnn. I second that. Second. Voting signs in favor. Meetings adjourned.