Planning and Zoning - Regular Meeting

Zoning Administrator is President Patrick. I'll ask each board member to introduce themselves and tell what district they represent. Starting with Guy. Guy stands for District 3.

Cynthia Fortson, District 5.

John Bradley, District 1 and Vice Chair. William Mitchell, District 2.

William Smith, District 4.

Melissa Payne, Zoning Administrator 1.

And my name is Kanoa Scott and I'm the Chair of the Florida Zoning. First of all, let's give you a little update. I made a report to the Board of Commissioners last night on our recommendations from our May 19th meeting. Everything was approved except for one, and that was the rezone for the variance for the bond that was being built on Lucky Jones Road, we voted to deny and the Board of Commissioners reversed our decision and voted to approve. Everything else was, they took our recommendation. Okay, starting with our, I might ask for approval in a minute. I think most of you got it on email or whatever or for our May 5th, 2026 regular meeting and our minutes of the May 19th, 2026 public hearing. I'd like a motion to approve. I have a motion to approve.

Second.

I have a second. Any questions, comments, or corrections? Not yet? No. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Yes. Yes. All right. These amendments of May 5th and the amendments of May 19th are approved. At this time, we will go into our new business discussion of zoning applications for June 16, 2026 public hearing. And I'll turn it over to Melissa.

All right, so first we have Stanley and Lynn Farm are requesting to rezone their 8.88 acres from A1 to AR to allow a second home to be placed on the property as an accessory dwelling unit for a child. The property is located at 231 Farm, Dudley Road in Bowman on that 90 parcel 22C in District 4. So the farms are just wanting to rezone this property. They're wanting to build a new home for themselves. and the existing home will eventually be the ABU for one of their children. The rezone is consistent in the rural conservation area, and the rezone will bring the property into conformity.

All right, any questions about this first rezone request, or any comments? Is that age limit going down that driveway?

It's actually their road frontage. It was a flag lot originally. Like that little bit of road frontage. It has like a light drive road in, but they actually use the area that's actually associated with the property. So like this little part here, they actually have a driveway that goes down this river.

They probably had that for a long time.

I think it was from 98. was when it was originally split out.

Okay, so the dotted line, it goes out into, so it's showing it going over the pipeline. Mm-hmm. And then coming in.

Yeah, since then, they actually use where it's at on the property.

Any further questions or comments? All right, number two.

Alright, so we have Matt Stratton, applicant for his brother Weston Stratton, is requesting to rezone his 13.86 acres from A2 to AR to allow a 4 acre portion to be split out and retained and to give his brother the remaining 9.86 acres. The property is located at 2009 River Road in Carlton on that 109 parcel 501A in District 4. So what originally started with this property was Mr. Matt gave the property to Weston to build a home, and now they're just cutting out the home site, and it's just gonna be Weston's, I mean, yes, Weston's, and the rest is gonna go back to Mr. Matt. That's a little confusing. Let's see, it is consistent with rule conservation, It's going to have to have a 30-foot easement to get to the four-acre tract. And the remaining 9.86 will have ample road frontage.

This has to be rezoned to, the entire thing has to be rezoned to AR if approved.

Yes, sir.

If you cut off four acres, it makes less than 10.

You got it. Yes, sir.

And that is an easement, you said that have a 30 foot easement?

Yes sir, down here on this side where the yellow is, there'll be a 30 foot easement to Mr. Weston's four acre tract.

All right, what about the one in the back? How'd they get back to that?

There's 30 foot down the side property line at the back here.

You talking about the 9.87 acres?

You said there's what vector? If you look on the outside of the green, there's 30 foot in between that property line and that property line for the town.

So they put it right in that one square out to four right in the middle.

Because that's where the home was built.

They're going to put like a dirt road or something? Are they going to?

You know, I'm not sure. I know Mr. Stratton. off to where that cursor is right here. He already, Mr. Matt already has a home here, so he'll acquire this.

I'm not sure if his future plan is just to combine it or have it or... Yeah, because if he has it, wouldn't that be four acres off of that road? I mean, four lots? Oh, no, no, we have three because that one has a one-row punch. Okay, I'm sorry. You're fine.

Any further questions? There's an existing mobile home on the property?

Yes, sir.

Where is it?

It's right there where the cursor is, right here in the middle for the four acres.

When I say mobile home, you're talking about on the four acres. Yes. I thought it was on the other acres. No.

The home's going to be on the four acres because that's west.

So is there a home on the other acres? No.

Nothing.

When you said he's to build a house, or it's already built,

It's already built. There's already a mobile home there, and then there's a pole barn on the property.

So there's a mobile home, a house, and a pole barn?

From what I understand, it's just a mobile home and a pole barn. He originally gifted it to his brother to build a home. Okay. So now he's just wanting to split out the four-acre portion for Mr. Weston to retain and the rest for him to gift his brother back. Okay.

So the house we're talking about is a mobile home, basically? Yes, sir.

And it's on the four acres.

First, on the narrative, it says the property contains a blank number of acres, a mobile home, and a house under construction. Okay, let's see what she said. I like questions. A lot of stuff on the four acres. Okay.

Remember, are you attending the planning and zoning meeting or are you wanting to attend the high school meeting? The high school meeting. Okay, this is the wrong place. I'm sorry. You're all right.

Well, I asked at the front and they said something.

He didn't know. Tell them where it says here.

You know where the high school is? Yes. And the building next to it where you have the learning center or the middle school? Yes. Yes, that's right. I apologize.

No, you're more than welcome to stay. We have nothing to hide here as well. We just want to make sure you're in the right place. I do appreciate it. Thank you.

So it looks like in Tracy's email, it does say the pole barn is being converted into a home.

And that was over red flag on the wood. I thought it was in the trailer.

Well the trailer was on the...

So you'd have two residences on one foyer unless he's gonna live in there and build that house and move that trailer after he's got it built.

Okay, so in her email, it just says the reason for the placement of the four-acre tract is there is a house under construction, which is the pole barn being converted into a home, that has to be on the four-acre tract, and the mobile home is close to the road, and he doesn't want that to be part of the four-acre tract. So I'm so sorry. There will be one home on the four acres and then a mobile home on the 9.87. Okay. It'll be a home.

Is the larger section close to the road?

Yes. Yes, sir.

So there's a mobile home on the 9.7 acre? Yes. No, it's front.

It's kind of weirdly misshapen. So you're saying these two lots are together?

Georgia flat area right down the backside of that right there going to get a 30 for you but actually yeah it's amazing to join together that's gonna be a role in the four-acre parcel it's really saying that yeah that nobody at all

I K this or I know it's low yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

because it's on this front track. Excuse me, sir? Sir? He's mine. Oh, okay. He is in the right place then, okay.

Oh, I didn't say that. Okay, any further questions on this one? Yeah, go ahead. Okay.

Well, she can answer, I can't. Well, maybe. Okay. We'll try.

okay this is meant to go to the four acres yes ma'am this acre and this acre this is all one acre yes okay this to get to this one you have to make a roll through here yes okay now does this one have a road front yes okay that's what we're saying does this one have a road front but you said if they

yeah no the bottom that you're pointing to there would be um i think highway 72 okay no this is not connected this is a separate person so if they didn't have anything green down here yeah so it does have both and then the one to the side is this one up here okay so yeah so i'd say that would have been okay But it's good, it's got roof frame on both sides.

So both of those got roof frame on both sides of that. Yes. Combined with two, what looks like two different anchors with all one.

Yes. That's really confusing.

Yeah, I know.

But we're working through it.

All right. All right? We'll get it all straightened out in a minute. One clear on that one?

Yes.

All right, that's number, let's see, where are we at? We're on number three. Number three.

Okay. Sandy Flint, applicant for Robert Flint, is requesting the rebunk of 45.7 acres from A1 to A2 to allow the property to be divided into four tracts consisting of two 10-acre and two 12.75-acre tracts for family members. The property is located at 121 Jottam Down Road in Danielsville on Map 11, Parcel 103 in District 1. Okay, the Mr. Flint purchased this property to cut out four tracks so that all his siblings can live together. There was a correction to the site plan that Ms. Tracy received, so it is still going to be two 10-acre tracks, but there's going to be one 12.26-acre and one 13.63-acre track. The three of the four tracks will have ample road frontage, but the largest track containing 13.63 acres will require an easement, and it is consistent in the rural conservation.

So which one requires the easement? Four. Yes. Number four?

Yes, sir. And then you'll see it on the site plan, kind of in the middle, in between two and three, there's the 30-foot easement.

Yes, okay, gotcha.

Track one will be off of 98, Allen Road, so that's that road frontage. Two and three, off of Jotting Down, and the other one, East, 34 East. Questions on this one?

No.

Good. All right, number four.

Denise Keisler, applicant for the Lynn Church of State, is requesting to rezone a 5.67 acre portion from A1 to AR to split and sell and to rezone the remaining 10.29 acres from A1 to A2 to bring property into compliance with zoning regulations as a stand-on tract to sell. The property is located at 499 Double Branch Road in Danielsville. on map 55 parcel 79 in district two. Ms. Keensler's mother recently passed away and she is wanting to cut out Ms. Church's existing home and the 5.67 acres to sell. She's also selling the remaining 10.29 acres to an adjoining property owner, not to be confined but as a stand-alone tract. Let's see. Both are consistent with the rule of conservation The 5.67-acre track has ample road frontage, but the 10.29-acre will require a 30-foot easement.

The 10.29, does it help road frontage?

No, sir. It'll be accessed by the easement.

Well, no.

So two of them will have to be accessed by usages?

Yes, sir. The one in the middle that's already cut out and then the 10.29.

So which way is it? The one that, you talking about this one this way, the place with Shannon Marsden? Yes. That one's got an extension all the way to the road. Thank you.

So that's not an easement for the time. Yep.

Thank you.

So where is the easement going? Down there? This one. Right along there?

Yes.

Yes ma'am.

It's going to come down this outer line and then turn to go this way to get to the 10 acres. And Lee just pointed it out, the one in the middle here actually has right frontage a little sliver down the side here that touches the road.

Yeah, but how wide is it? I'm not sure because it was cut out previously. Both of them are that one, sir? Yep. So...

You all know that our commissioners don't like easements.

This is an easement with a right angle in it. This is not a straight shot with the way this easement is circling around the back of the road frontage. minutes is that I probably did it down there with that side to keep it away from this driveway in the house on this side.

You can't call this a flag lot.

Well that one is a flag lot. So if you have a little skinny or 30 foot piece of land going to your property you don't have to have the 120

So if it was already a platted reg frameage, it wouldn't apply, but if you're doing it now, it'd have to have 150 feet, or a variance. For the reg frameage. So that one in the middle was already cut out previously?

Yeah, okay. But if they were gonna create it, it would. Yeah. Okay.

It'd have to be done as an easement, or have the minimum reg frameage.

All right, any further questions on this one? And we'll find out more, I'm sure, at our public hearing. I'm sure you'll have more questions by that time. Any further questions? All right, number five.

Okay, number five is James and Karina Catlett are requesting to rezone their five acres from A1 to I to allow the operation of a machining, metal fabrication, and assembly business Custom Automation Systems on the property. The property is located at 0 Highway 106 South and Hole on Map 31, Parcel 702 in District 3. And currently it's a vacant lot. He owns a business called Sensible Automation Solutions LLC that he currently operates out of Alpharetta. He's willing to move that business to this track if the industrial result is approved. He owns three adjoining five acre tracts and he resides on one of the tracts. There's a letter of intent in your packet. He describes the nature of the business as light industrial with low impact with only two to four employees operating on standard business hours. Customers will not be coming onto the property and then there will be minimum truck traffic or minimal truck traffic. The building size is approximately 6,000 square feet. The property has ample road frontage. It is inconsistent with the South Madison comprehensive plan. The character area does emphasize on residential and business growth, but not industrial. If resumed to industrial, the following requirements will apply. The engineered site plan, stormwater management, parking area requirements, paved driveway and apron, approval from GDOT, and landscaping at right of way. She also has a side note on here that says, Mike said the board might want to consider placing a light industrial condition on the re-home similar to the IDCA as a recommendation.

Okay. This falls under our business, so why does he have to go?

I think originally, since it would be fabricating, put it into industrial, and that's why they settled on that. Because it's, correct me if I'm wrong, CNC machine?

Because he's making something. Yeah. He's not just selling something, he's making something.

Correct.

But the thing that stands out to me is, when I just point this out to the group, it's not consistent with our complex.

Although there's some industrial across the road. and there's a storage unit just around the corner.

It's right near, it's right close to the school in Hamlet's EMT station. Turn the part right across the road.

So it's, oh, this is not 106. Yeah, it's 106.

So Jim, I went out and I met with James called His idea there, and I think you're quite right, it's not going to be heavy industrial. It's very light industrial and sort of on the border, if not business. And I think when I went out to meet with him, he had just told me that he'd spoken to Tracy and who had a call in to Mike, our attorney, to suggest that this is the way we want to go, potentially go, is business and not industrial, which sounds like smoke and heavy something, and this is not that at all, according to Mr. Catholic, who's sitting out there at the moment.

Yeah, well, I appreciate him coming to listen to our discussion with the time he'll be able to present to us his plan on the 16th at our public hearing. One of the things that we just rezoned some stuff last night or recommended the commissioners pass it to change to make an industrial along with business. But that was consistent with the comp plan. This is inconsistent with the comp plan. So I don't know if it makes a whole lot of difference. I think if you're producing something, it's considered industrial. But I'm not sure it can't be business.

Because at the meeting last night, I think this is a similar kind of animal. I realize it's not with the comp plan, but it's very similar that he's, you know, it's not heavy and it's not industrial as we all think of it. Correct.

Well, I think we opened a can of worms and if they don't really define industrial this light industrial versus business we're going to have a lot of it coming up it has to get they have to define I mean really define what they're talking about and I think Mike produced a list of what was light industrial and much more there's much more definition to to

very open industrial or business definition.

This document that I just passed around that I got defines what we recommended as light industrial, which says, and all of you already know it, but it says the use of property are restricted to light industrial meaning such uses support flex, space, warehouse, distribution, light manufacturing, storage, and service commercial development of low to mid-scale intensity. Light industrial uses must be operated so that the noise, odor, dust, and glare of such operations are primarily confined within an enclosed building. In addition, the property may be put to any of the permitted uses. The permitted uses, there's every four of them and all those are bids. Let me hear from you.

I wish Mike were here because there has been a lot of discussion. I don't know if you've gotten in on the email thread or not. There's been a lot of discussion between Tracy, Mike. I got copied on part of it because I inquire originally about industrial just didn't fit in this area, and due to the fact that under the definition of business, it says it's intended for commercial development, all businesses, none of that, within completely enclosed buildings, except for . Anyway, to make a long story short, I felt like maybe this use fit business instead of industrial. And Tracy asked Mike about that and what his final decision on that, I'm not sure. So that would be very reluctant to go much further. To me, if we can consider this business, business fits in the area.

There are other businesses in the area.

There's not other industrial across the road is on a three, it's not industrial.

And it also fits, if it's on business, it also fits in the comprehensive plan. And that's been one of our big issues all year long, does it fit the comprehensive plan, because that's what they got all of the citizens that wanted to attend to put this frame together. Some of it I disagree with, but that's what we got.

Well, it might be on 16, but... If it says that it can be considered business, you know, then we might want to, you know, say business and deal with it that way.

We're not voting on it tonight, so, you know, I mean, we still have time to ask questions.

And if it can be considered business, I did go ahead and ask the question, if that is the case, does Mr. Kelly need to go through the motions of applying for business instead of industrial like he it sounded industrial and the answer to that was no that we can we can recommend or we can make the motion that it be less intense you can't go more intensive you can go less intensive so it could be being business here at the table instead of him having to go through the motions bill we had didn't we have this on 29 he was producing

He wanted to go industrial, but he wanted to produce something, and we... That was the block plant? Yeah, I think so.

That one had environmental factors, dust, noise, whatever, and there was a residential right next door, which was the issue. This one, everything's contained in the building. There are no environmental exposures or anything, which... tends to make it more business.

Yeah, that's why I'm saying this fits more under business.

Instead of getting all worked up about it, I would strongly recommend let's discuss it with Mike.

I would too, but we have a second thing now that we didn't have up until last night. We do have a difference between industrial and light industrial. So we have other things that we can consider. Before, when we talked about industry, all of us fell in one category. Whether it was light or large, it didn't make any difference. You know, you have smoke stack big as this building. It was still industrial. Or you could have something where you're making gadgets like smaller than a cell phone. It was still industry, you know. So that's something we can think about Like I said, Mike will be on the 16th, and we can consider more of what our recommendation might be. All right. Any further questions or comments before we move on?

You'll be back for the public hearing, I'm assuming.

Yes, sir.

I would hope so.

Okay. Mr. Smith, you got any comments? No.

I'm done, Justin. Okay.

All right. Anything? Any others? All right, number six.

Albaran and Paula Rodriguez are requesting to rezone a 1.507 acre portion from A2 to R1 to split and gift their son and to rezone the remaining 6.493 acres from A2 to AR to retain and to bring the property into compliance with zoning regulations. The property is located at 2451 Hardman Morris Road in Culver On that 59 parcel 96K in District 5. Let's see. They have eight acres with their home and they're wanting to get the son 1.507 acres for a home site and they'll retain the 6.493 with their home. There's ample road frontage for both tracks. And the R1 and the AR zone is consistent with the South Madison character area.

Okay. Questions?

Looking at the plan on the right side, it looks like this new parcel, this new 1.5 is kind of splitting. but there's a pool on the left and some other outbuildings and then on the right there's a mobile home and a two-story wood frame house.

So there's already two homes on the farm.

I'm just, I'm sitting at home on the plant itself. It's this two-story wood frame on the slab. And then I'm assuming that other one is a mobile home.

She's only got one row, but it's just the one home. Yeah, it looks like QPublic is just showing one home. But I see what you're talking about, to the bottom right there?

Yeah. If you don't know, we can figure that out. Okay.

Any further questions?

Yes, temporal furniture.

There's a lot of buildings on this property. So, what are they, houses?

They're just like a storage building. Storage. Yes ma'am. It shows that there's multiple outbuildings on the property.

More questions? All right. No further questions.

All right. Number seven, John Vickery, is requesting to rezone his 4.79 acres from A2 to R1 slash AR. He's requesting to rezone a 3.62 acre portion from A2 to R1 for a stand-alone track. And he's requesting to rezone the remaining 1.17 acres from A2 to AR to combine with this joining AR zone property, 4573, for a total of 4.83 acres. The property is located at 1273 Jack Sharp Road in Colbert on that 45, parcel 76 in District 5. This rezone and the next two rezones are all contingent upon each other. Mr. Vinkery owns two adjacent tracts of land and his granddaughter Kelly owns an adjoining property. The overall purpose is to add acreage to his adjoining property where his daughter lives to give her some desired acreage for her garden spot. He's also adding some acreage to his granddaughter's property that contains an existing barn that she wanted added to her property. Road frontage for the 3.62 acre tract is ample. But the 1.17 acre portion being combined is served by an existing easement. Both the R1 and AR zones are consistent with the comp plan of South Mass. So there's a lot of moving parts.

Yes, there is.

Ms. Tracy did do a separate one. I got it pulled up showing all of them, number seven, eight, nine, that might make it a little

A little bit better. We don't have that one. No.

This road off of Jack Sharp Road called Vickery Lane?

Mm-hmm.

Is that a private road?

It is.

And how many, with what they're wanting to do here, how many parcels does it serve?

It currently serves three. And it'll stay three.

Really?

Yes. So the 1.7 that we're talking about now with a 3.62 and the 1.7 is the first rezone. The 3.62 will keep the row frontage. On the second rezone, the 1.7 is gonna go into the other green. And now we're getting ahead of the horse here. And then eventually that .54 for the barn will come into the granddaughter's tract over here.

What about the two tracts back there that have the X's through them. Do those use that?

They do.

Is that in addition to the three?

No, that is the three. Yes, sir. So, it's the two X's plus the one in the middle that's green there.

So, that one goes with that.

Say that again, I'm sorry. Yeah, no, that one does.

So, the two X's back there, they go with what?

That private drive. They're part of the three parcels accessed by the same private drive.

But he doesn't own that?

He does not. They're other family members, but they're not his. Oh. Now, where was the garden? That's the 1.7 in the back there. That's what his daughter wants. Oh, she's going to just add that to hers for a garden. Yes, ma'am. And that's going to be result number eight.

I'm getting a little ahead of us, but it's easier to show it all at once. Now, where's the one he wanted to sell this to all at once?

So that's his to retain. He's not selling anything. He's just moving lot lines, basically. Yes, ma'am. So it makes it easier. This was originally one tract. He's keeping this, giving this to his daughter. And then she is going to give this barn to the granddaughter. So they're just kind of swapping around. Yes, ma'am.

So right now, he owns all of it?

He owns two. And the one in blue is the granddaughter. And she is application number nine. Would you like me to go ahead and read eight and nine since we're talking about them all together?

Well, it looks like to me seven and eight goes together and nine goes by itself.

Yes.

Because it's two different property owners. Could y'all correct me if I'm wrong? Y'all see there's all three in one or just... Yeah. I mean, it makes a whole lot of difference, I guess, but. We'll decide that at our business meeting, I guess we'll vote on all three at once, so. Two of them at once, but the way I see it, seven and eight go together and nine is separate.

I will say a portion of eight, the .54 would be what we get rezoned to R1 to combine, so I guess if it didn't get approved, then nine wouldn't need to be rezoned.

Does that make sense?

Makes sense.

But anyway, you can read them all.

Yes, sir. So number eight, John Vickrey is requesting to rezone a .54 acre portion of his property from AR to R1 to combine with his granddaughter's adjoining property, 4572, to allow an existing barn to be added to her property. The remaining acreage will remain in the AR zone. The property is located at 188 Vickery Lane in Colbert on map 45, parcel 73 in district five. Let's see, Ms. Tracy did say that she made an error on the narrative. The property contains 4.20 acres, Mr. Vickery's daughter's home and barn. I'm not sure if it was the acres that she might have had wrong in the narrative. And it is consistent with South Madison and it will be accessed in the existing 33. Number nine is Curtis and Kelly Daniel are requesting to rezone their 2.70 acres from A2 to R1 to allow a 0.54 acre portion from adjoining property 4573 with an existing barn to be combined into the property for a total of 3.24 acres and to bring the property into compliance with zoning regulations. The property is located at 1339 Jack Sharp Road in Culver on map 45 parcel 72 in district five. and Ms. Haley Daniel is Mr. Vickery's granddaughter. Her property has ample road frontage and it's consistent with South Madison with all the ones.

All right, any more questions on this one? None? Okay. All right, anything else that needs to come before us tonight? Anything else that needs to come before us tonight? If not, I'm gonna take a motion to adjourn. I'd like a motion to adjourn. Thank you folks for coming. The public hearing will be on