City Council - Regular Meeting

Seeing we have a quorum, I will call to order the city of Kyma City Council and Kyma Public Facilities Corporation regular council meeting at on 04/15/2026 at 4PM. The first thing on the agenda are our pledges. Next on the agenda is a moment of silence. Okay. And next would be the invitation to address council and West Tipton is first on the list.

Council. Thank you all for the work you do. I know you do a lot of work that goes underappreciated and everything. Can everybody hear me all right? Okay. I have some slides here. This first one showing the the formerly planned dog park. If you'll scroll down a little bit where it's or up. I mean, I'm sorry. Up more. Up more. See where it says Kyma Dog Park there? That's on that strip of land behind the the post office, and and everybody's aware, I think, the post office in Dairy Queen. The city is, I feel, purposely leaving that land landlocked. No one's acknowledging that there's a public road between the bank and the Patron Building, and that's kinda leaving my friend mister Dunn here at landlocked too.

He's authorized me to speak on y'all's behalf today. I mean, on his behalf today too, so I'm hoping I can have his three minutes. If you'll scroll on down to the next picture, please. This shows the subject area. Go back up. That's the public open street between the Bank of Patron there. There's no tax account on it. If you click on it, nothing comes up. You can see cars parked in the public right of way for the bank. The public right of way extends all the way down to the backyard of the home on Fay, making that home a very valuable property with one forty six access from their backyard.

Stands to be sacrificed, though, if we don't stop what the city's got planned with Kyma hardware. That neighbor to then we're we're then And es to our properties, not Kyma Hardware's property, is leased out to Kyma Hardware. If y'all can do this to us, y'all can take those waterfronts away from people in executive session that the streets dead end on, and those people are gonna wake up one day, and they're trespassing that they go on the dead end street that's always been open. I've been told I'm trespassing if I go on the Old Dog Park Parky Park area. I don't appreciate that.

Anyways, I'm getting a little worked up. If you'll scroll down again, please. So go ahead and go on down to the survey. That wasn't the final survey. So this isn't a science survey, but I was able to take a picture of this from somebody surveying on either Kyma hardware's behalf or the city's behalf.

Over there on the left, it shows on this survey that that road between the bank and Patron is not open. Me and mister Dong, and I think the general population would argue that road is clearly open. Any surveyor that would say that road is not open, I question their ethics. The street over there by the post office, that's a closed street. I'd like mister three minutes, please. That's okay.

Okay.

Okay. Thank you. That street is shown as a closed street. I've asked the surveyor that I've seen out there, hey. Properly do your survey and notate these as open and use, possible prescriptive easements. Whatever you can see they are notated because what the city is doing is leaving itself landlocked on purpose, I fear, so y'all can claim an easement across our property and try to take it. And the city councilman told me a long time ago, all your property is good for is access to our property. And and I said, well, I'd like to buy y'all's property. Oh, no. We we wanna lease your property and our property to some people in Vegas.

I'm not interested in that. Well, we have serious concerns. Our properties drain under this property. It goes down to a huge ditch by the post office. All our drainage was taken away from TxDOT, and I begged the city to get involved, and I didn't get any help. I had to fight tooth and nail to get that little pipe put under the sidewalk on our property and my driveway back in. They robbed him of his driveway, leaving him landlocked. They were gonna leave me landlocked too. And we question, is this some grander plan of the city to try to who knows? Why is the city refusing to a street that they own?

On older deeds, it's called Nameless Street. It's not called unopened right away. It's not called closed. Does the city I've asked the city in emails, Y'all have anything saying it was ever officially closed? I've ignored. Told this is a legal matter. You know? I'm here to let y'all know. I'm aware, and I feel like there's some conniving going on to try to take our property, and I don't appreciate it. Open the streets and officially recognize them as open.

It's it's enough is enough. And me and mister Dong were really upset. We weren't given an opportunity to lease land that connects to our property before somebody else would be given that opportunity in closed session. We still don't even know what it leased for. We were never given the opportunity to bid on it or to argue and prove that, hey, city.

Y'all don't have any business leasing that out. We're claiming a prescriptive easement for access over that. Well, we realized we're at your bit of parking back there and a little bit of access and y'all still do what you want, great. We think it should stay an open green space park, especially after it was planned for that. And if there's any way to stop the deal y'all done with Kyma hardware and backtrack it, please do. Thank you.

Shalia, do you wanna speak? Yes. I do. Okay.

Thank you again for letting me speak. I got tied up. I just wanna let you know that lemonade day in Galveston County will be on the same day as election day, March 2 and I'm inviting all residents to participate especially their children. I've signed up with the organization that's promoting Lemonade Day, and it's a combination of Galveston, Mainland, and Galveston Island and Mainland. It's an opportunity for youth to find out little bit about entrepreneurship.

There's all kinds of goodies for them, and it culminates actually in a celebration at Slitterbahn. So all the kids that sign up will be invited to the celebration at Slitterbahn. So I will make myself available online as well as I will be going to all of the city parks to promote it, and I will sign them up. And if they'd like, I will in fact, I will I'll bring their t shirts, their entrepreneur pack to their home. So if you don't mind, I'd like to just put my poster in the camera.

I support youth entrepreneurs. And if you think about your own experience, I'm sure at some point in time, you had a lemonade stand, or either your neighbor or some other relative that age had a lemonade stand. It's how we teach our youth business. So I'd like to promote that. And again, I'm be will be available at all of the city parks to promote it as well as sign kids up.

And just so everyone is aware, I will not be in any HOA area. So the city park is a city park, and I will sign them up, and there's no cost to the youth to participate. So thank you for your time. Next

on the agenda are proclamations, presentations, and awards. And we have a proclamation for public works tonight.

Thank you, mayor. Uh-huh. Thank you, councilman. Thank you for having us here. My name is Manuel Trejo. I'm the senior safety and loss control consultant for the Texas Municipal League in our government in Roosevelt. We're based out of Austin. We've been working with this group for the past over the past two years. Excellent group. We're thrilled to extend our heartfelt congratulations to the city of Kyma for successfully completing all five badges of the Road Ready program.

This noteworthy achievement is a testament to the collaboration efforts and dedication of your team. Working on a near roadways creates a potential for catastrophic encounters with other vehicles where the extent of damage or injury is not necessarily related to fault. The Road Ready initiative was specifically designed to ensure all staff are aware of these potential hazards and exposures. We suffer more struck by events from vehicles on the roadway, and what we're coming to find throughout the members our member base, over 2,800 members that are associated with the risk pool, we suffer at least one fate one roadway fatality a year. So we appreciate the city of Kemah taking this on and taking the pledge.

The city of Kemah Public Works and Parks Department has exemplified a proactive approach successfully completing major activities associated with the road ready process. Given a certificate on from us to you all to to hang. He's got one at the office as well, so, hopefully, it's on full display. We have roughly around 300 local government entities participating in this process. I'm happy to to say that Kima is in the top 20.

And that yeah. So it's growing. We started this about five years ago, and we're we're we're super excited that everyone's on board with this for life safety. We just look forward to continued partnership, and we thank you for having us. And enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you.

Appreciate it. Yes, sir.

If I may.

Yes. I I just wanna say on behalf of the public works department, I wanna thank Manny and miss Liana because she's always, you know, bringing the safety aspect to us and any training that she comes across, she's always sending it to us. So I just wanna put that on the record, you know, that she is quite good at helping us with that. Thank you.

Uh-huh. Congratulations to all of you. Next on the agenda is presentation and overview of text my gov communication platform. I believe this was put on here though by Patty and she is not with us tonight. We have a presenter. Oh, you do? Okay.

City of Keymar, information on the boardwalk. We're also using a widget on the website to promote the service. It is on the local website as well as the Discover Kyma website. Residents and visitors alike could use

Any questions or comments? You are? Okay. Cool. And should we report those to you?

Yes, ma'am. Okay.

Okay. Well, we'll move on. On the agenda, mayor's comments are next. We had a meeting last week. I don't have a lot to say other than thank you all for coming out tonight. We did have a KCDC meeting last night and had a new member sworn in, Megan Salsado. So we welcome her to KCDC. And we also have a new employee, Devin DePascal. I said it right. And we're not sure what all of Devin's gonna do exactly, but Patty is no longer with us, and he's going to take over some of those duties and also assist Cesar with some economic development duties. That's about all I have. Council man Saldanha, would you like to have a comment?

Welcome, Devin. Glad you're here. I know actually I've been around Devin quite a bit. He's an excellent addition. That's it.

Councilman Wallace?

The sidewalk is going in Evergreen. And it's I want to thank everybody that had anything to do with that. Of course it's not poured yet but it's gonna make a difference. And I appreciate it. And I know the sales had a lot to do with that. So thank you.

Councilman Meisinger.

No comments from me.

Councilman Oliver.

Nothing from me this week.

And Councilman brought us.

I just wanna congratulate Lieutenant Torres and Oscar with public words for ten years of service with chemo. We did have a whole breakfast for him this week and ten years a long time around here. I do appreciate it. I think I've been through four city managers and four city secretaries in five years. And then also wanna thank Nola and Jerry for all their work on the fee schedule. We're trying to have it back to you all by July. We just had our second meeting today and proceeding forward with caution and we're gonna try to make sure it's completely right before we bring it back. Hopefully the first meeting of July is where our goal is so that we can implement before the budget. So just so everybody knows. That's all I have.

Any other comments? One thing I should have maybe mentioned, we had another business open this well, a soft opening yesterday, Skinny Rita's down at on Bradford. And they have it's Mexican food, but they have a lot of gluten free, you know, type things. So you have to go and visit them and check it out. Caesar, next is the city administrator's report.

Can you hear me?

Highlights. For our midyear report, we've collected 59% of our revenue we we projected to receive this year. Our sales tax is up 2.7% over last year. Permits and licenses are up right now because of the Dakota and Home 2s project. Our grant revenue is low at the moment, but we're about to do the reimbursement process for the Lone Star and Body Armor grants.

It's about $160,000 Total expenditures are at 47.5 percent of what we budgeted. So in the spotlight, so we joined the Gulf Coast Transits program. We added two PD admin vehicles, moving the chief's vehicle to the patrol units. 13 portable radios for our officers, which came with grant funds. Body armor for our officers, which was with grant funds, our new mowing equipment for public works, video magistrate for the court, communications.

We got the art of soccer ball that will be debuted for the FIFA World Cup. Is it World Cup World? Yeah. We're advertising on the transit buses. So some of them are highlights that we've done so far this year.

Well, thank you. Do they have any questions?

And if anyone wants a deeper dive, just let me know and I'll be happy to walk out through every line.

Comments. We'll move on to the consent agenda ten a to approve the minutes of the four one twenty twenty six city council regular meeting.

So moved. So

we have a motion by councilman Darren Broadus, a second by councilman Lee Wallace. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. 11 a, consideration and possible action to review and appoint position six of the Kyma Community Development Corporation, KCDC.

I hate to report, but no one showed up to interview last night. So we're gonna put it back out to the general public and make a swing in it. Okay.

11 b, consideration and possible action to approve an amendment for resolution twenty twenty six dash zero seven for new body worn cameras for the police department authorizing the city administrator to apply for and enter into a grant agreement with the Texas office of the governor for the fiscal year 2027 criminal justice grant program enlisting the finance director for the city of Pima.

Make a motion

to approve

resolution 2026 dash o seven. We

have a motion by councilman Darren Broadus, a second by councilman Doug Meisinger. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries also unanimously. 11 c, consideration and possible action to approve resolution twenty twenty six dash eighteen, a resolution of the city council of the city Of Kyma, Texas designating application for grant application submission and signatory rights for contractual documents pertaining to the 2027 city of Kyma SB two two four catalytic converter grant program.

Make a motion to approve resolution two zero two six dash one eight.

We have a motion by councilman Darren Broadus. Do we have a second? Second. We have a second by council Lee Wallace. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Consideration and possible action to approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash o two and ordinance amending chapter six, amusements and entertainments by adding article four, gaming sites and gaming machines, providing a severability clause, providing a penalty clause, providing a savings clause, providing providing for publication and providing an effective date. This would be the second of two readings.

Guess my question would be to Dustin and did we get this resolved in a fashion that was comfortable with the board

work? Yeah.

Make a motion to approve ordinance two zero two six dash zero two.

We have a motion by councilman Darren Broadus. Do have a second?

I'll second.

We have a second by councilman Doug Meisinger. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

11 e, consideration of possible action to approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash zero three, an ordinance by the city of Counts by the city council of the city of Pima, Texas, amending the code of ordinances titled 15 entitled traffic and vehicles, article I I I LII entitled parking division two entitled minimum parking requirements section 98 dash 78 and providing for publication and an effective date.

Motion to table and put this on here but not like this. This is not how I wanted this done and I'm tired of my phone blowing up for it. So motion to table. Second.

Would you like to table to another meeting or

Table to once I'm

gone. Okay. This is this is table. Is

there a difference?

Okay. We have a motion to table. Do we have a second? Second. We have a second by councilman Lee Wallace. All those in favor? Okay. That is table. Consider 11 f consideration and possible action to approve ordinance twenty twenty six dash zero four. An ordinance of the city of Kyma, Texas amending chapter 50 city of Kyma's code of ordinances entitled health and sanitation to update and clarify various sections providing for codification and an effective date, and this would be the first of two

seen anything like it in any other city. We essentially just shadow banned them and made it almost impossible for anybody to have them except for one person. And I just wanted to kinda go back to something a little more reasonable and where we were before. And that's all that is.

This doesn't have any, edits in it then?

Yeah. It's got residential property from 200 to 50.

Oh, they usually mark them in a different color.

I mean, I think section one needs to be approved, I think, right, Caesar, because of the new state law. Because now you can carry a state permit. Mhmm. Yes. Lot of cities cannot require a permit anymore for food trucks. I think it's just one catch all for the state. So, I mean, we're gonna have to make some sort of modifications. I think we currently, by our feed schedule, have a permit for food trucks. But that's not, by state law that's changed.

Yes. So this the ordinance that you have, it does put us in line with the state's new rules that will be coming out.

I think it was one three five seven eight nine. I mean, I didn't see any problems with them. I I'm just not gonna go back to the lynching mob for 50 feet because I was here when that happened, and I appreciate you making one last swing at it. But I don't wanna be part of that part of it again because I don't know what's gonna happen.

Is there is there a distance you'd be more comfortable with? It just because it just seemed like when we because several of us went through this process. It started off 50, and I think it went 75, then it went a 100, then it went 200, and then it went, oh, wait a 200 property line to property line. All of it done to just the way this was done is, well, wait. You could still fit one there. We gotta extend it to this. Oh, you can still have one there. We gotta extend it to this. And it basically extended out to where you just can't have one. And the buyer was just banned.

I mean the hype behind this is just kind of silly. He's banned if you don't want it. It's silly. I've never understood why this town would look down on good sales tax but we did on this one. And look what the state's about to unleash in July, think there's gonna be an influx of food trucks when they come to the market. I think if we kind of open the pathway a little early, have the opportunity to get some of the more desirable. And so because I think everybody come July 1 is gonna start looking to put these things in different places, and we're such a standoffish. And they're all around us. Everybody has them. I don't know why we are just saying no.

We're too we're we're too good for that. And I say that as a dude that owns a restaurant. I mean, I'm I'm totally cool with having food trucks around. That has bothered me the least. I mean, there's a if there's a a distance that you're more comfortable from a residence, I'm I'm fine.

I also didn't like that ordinance when we passed it. I remember everything that happened going up to it. I thought it was little more details myself. But do we collect sales tax from food trucks? Right?

We don't have any to collect. There's one.

There's one. For me to pull it up on the sales tax report, they have to report over a certain dollar amount and I would have to know the food truck's name and the owner to see if they're even bringing enough money to make the

We like vendors we can see it because I mean they come in they go so we're just putting in a fee and getting $5 for I think it's $5. Correct me if I'm wrong, Cesar, but I think we did some sort of fee where it was just built into their booth rental, and then we get a check for how many vendors show up. If we get the sales tax rate, but if we don't, we don't have to go chase it down because there's not enough money there for we don't have enough staff to

to manage it. $12.80 per unit

per per occurrence. Occurrence?

Yeah. Because I will start there. Do we collect enough money to matter? Otherwise, why are we subjecting ourselves to a bunch of people in here mad or calculating sales tax, I think, one, if we are great. Two, I I don't have a problem with the 50 feet, but also don't think there should be a food truck, you know, at at, you know, raider and gift. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, maybe you should box it in just in the ir own. Get sense idea. Like I said, when this wind affected.

Well, I think that's Tom's future goal of the linear park is to That would be great. Power in and have it accessible to food trucks underneath the bridge, which would be

That'd a great idea.

Away from far enough away from our residents that Yeah. You know, match this. So I know we've had conversations with LJ to make sure that there was enough power and enough resources for us to accomplish that goal. And even like cook offs, I think we're even looking at some other things because that's kind of the plan is to have cook offs down there and actually talk to some cook off teams and actually I've actually gone to a vet and just kinda talk to them about what would bring you somewhere. What what what are you looking for so it's more convenient for you and you're not gonna drag it all with you? If you're drag 50 gallons of water, it's a pain. So so there was we're getting some feedback on that as well trying to learn from other people's mistakes. So, hopefully, we'll have an area that would be conducive, and those people would like to come

to Yeah. Just to make it easier. Because I remember on the last one, we had it stipulated that even if they did find a a place, a corner that they could put it into, it had to be removed from from the property at 2AM and couldn't return until 5AM. Yeah. It was just like, come on. This is Close. Making it just unnecessarily difficult for anybody to do this.

Yeah. I also like and and I like where you're with that, Aaron, because I don't wanna I also don't want somebody shoehorning a food truck somewhere like what happened before. Mhmm. You know? And and it just I think there's some holes in this, but I do like what you're saying. I like having

I mean, before I wanted to

he's kinda sandwiched between that yellow house and Mhmm. And old gentleman, Steve, is his name. And I mean, mean, spot for a woman. Honestly, it's kinda not funny, but you can have it inside his own property. You can walk in there. You can I just I I don't necessarily like the look of having a food truck all all the way down 146? So that's what I'm saying. Like, I think I think you got I think there's some work to do on that. I agree with you. I think the big numbers was ridiculous to begin with. So we're gonna work on this.

Do want me to Sounds Sounds like it.

I I got my plate full. I'm not working on this one.

You just told us you're working on it. You just told the whole story about how you're working on it.

Well, I'm working on linear park. Yes.

It's good.

So that's that's $20.32. I'm making what's something done before? Think a lot

of different names. Brought us to work on this.

It would so easy for me to second that because I thought I wanted

to Well, we we still gotta work on this because we gotta change some of our rules and regulations to meet state statutes. So I would say table to the next meeting, and let's at least get that part right. And then we can look at the other part and maybe we can do some some tape measure. I don't know. I know a little bit. But I would just table it to the next one because there is some things we need to fix. I'm like, section one needs to be approved. Section three needs to be approved just to get us in compliance with state law that's currently going on. So so I wouldn't completely shy away from it, but two and four, we really need to look at.

I'll make a motion on the table till next meeting.

Do we have a second? Second. So we have a motion by councilman Isaac Saldanha and a second by councilman Darren Bratis. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

Mayor, I apologize. If I'm not in the room, I can't have eye

I believe 11 f would go to legal for making sure we're in compliance with new state laws, or or have you already done that?

That's done.

That's already done. Just, yeah, sections two and four, what exactly?

Section four, we're making the changes from two to fifty and two hundred and fifty. The rest of it I think is already there. It's just a matter of, I mean, there's one typo in here. I mean, I just highlighted it.

So I wrote down section so section two and four of what he working on.

Is that correct? He said e table until he was gone. So unless somebody brings it back up, he's gone in my eyes. But Yep. F, I mean

Mine too.

Mine too. Leave on Sundays. I I

can't challenge. I took an ad hoc debt to a part.

Oh, you took a brownie on there.

There's no residence underneath the bridge.

Not official residence. School. So Caroline. Yeah. It's not it's not 200 feet.

Well, I don't understand.

What do you need to have to be a designated part? Do you have that do you have that water? Do have the power? A lot of us

have generators. No. I don't. We're just trying to make it if if we're we're gonna gonna make that part accessible on more weekends, we need to make sure it's easy because your big guys do have all the stuff. But if you wanna attract more folks, you're gonna have to cater to them a little bit so they have the services they need.

TBD. I mean, if we table if we change it to table 11 f to the second meeting in May, I will definitely take ownership of it. But I just I can't for the next meeting because I won't be here.

I will amend my my motion to table it to May second meeting in May. Second.

All those in favor? Aye. Aye. And we have one council member that stepped out, but that doesn't make any difference.

I'll take it. What we do?

Okay. What about eleven e? We're tabling that into that meeting as well.

Was that indefinite? We're tabling that. That's why it brings it back up. Yeah.

Yeah. That's indefinite. Moving on. 11 g, consideration of fee waiver for the use of the Kyma Community Center by Walmart on Friday, June 12.

Under normal circumstances, I would say leave the cleaning fee in there, but they're such a huge contributor.

I agree.

That I'll make a motion to agree to waive their

fees. Second.

We have a motion by councilman Isaac Saldanha and a second by councilman Lee Wallace. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. 11 h, consideration and possible action to address the sidewalks in Kyma Oaks that need repair.

Well, I'll just say this. I when this first came up, I I hadn't I hadn't been to Kyma Oaks in a while. And I drove over there, and I took probably 25 pictures on my phone of just absolute, I mean, real, real problematic issues with the sidewalks over there. I do think that this is the thing that we need to do. This honestly is the reason I drove from Dallas to come to this meeting was to vote on this.

Know, people can say whatever, but but the motion I wanna make on this, and it's been brought to my attention that some of the problems may have been caused by WCAD 12. If that's the case, then they need to be responsible for any mess that they have made. But the motion I would like to make on this is to instruct Caesar to go out for bid on repairing the sidewalks in Kyma Oaks and look into what was caused by the water district, what was not, what's their problem is theirs, what's our problem is ours. And I think this should be put on the next budget cycle for you guys to look at and make a project for those to be repaired out of the next budget.

I happen to agree with you, Doug. Well, you and I did a ride over there then I It rode by

was

so bad I wouldn't pick him up. It's

an accident waiting to happen. My boy had some I'm not aware of. But know for a fact that a sidewalk can definitely trip you because that's happened to me. Not that I'm not clumsy or anything, but I agree with you, Doug.

I'm happy to hear that. I did a whole bunch of research on this and I can go into the boring details of what I found out. I read Carl's letter. I understand what he's saying. I also understand what the class says and when I went out there and physically measured. I also understand that it's a they they're connected to public walkways, and it's the only walking means to get to a public park. The only entrance into the public park. Yeah. That's all I needed to hear. Mean, this would be and I agree with Doug.

Whatever the water district needs to pick, they can pick it. Yep. And whatever's left over, which is and I'm not saying maybe it's not one more than one but it's like, nobody said you had go in and spend, you know, a $100 to fix it. If it if they break it up in in phases so that we can digest it and do that. Yep. I think we should

Only the only thing I'm gonna yeah. I researched this till I'm blue in the face, actually. But, I mean, this was declared in KCBC back in 2003 as a project on June 5. The state law changed on house bill twenty nine twelve on June 20, two weeks afterwards. But the work actually wasn't done by KCDC until 2012 where Olson Greg and Greg said that it was grandfathered in by KCDC because they'd already designated it as a project, which this could not be a KCDC project at this point.

There's no economic benefit to this. So, I mean, I've dug all the way through this. But 85% of the cities in the state of Texas, that right away belongs to the homeowner. You can go back and research all of that. There are situations like League City that's doing

and

it sounds like a big number, $750,000 a year, but when you really dive into the numbers, their budget's $529,000,000. So they're doing less than five miles a year, big fixing of 696 miles of sidewalks they have in Lake City currently. So they're doing less than 1%. So if you equate that back to our budget, you're talking less than $10,000 a year, which is not gonna make a dent in this. And the only other thing I would suggest is for our staff's sake and staying out of the political mix is we grant the money to the HOA and let them decide which projects are the most important so our staff's not getting run over by people complaining, why did Joe's get them foreheads or whatever the case might be, get that let that stay in the neighborhood.

I mean, not us having to manage that. Because you know that's gonna happen. I mean,

why did Well, only that just and I read this, and this is just basically saying that I mean, this once again, city didn't take something that was dedicated. That's a story I've heard a dozen times already just now. Heard it today. HOA doesn't own

it. I can tell you

the HOA later. HOA is not own. It was never designated the the development It actually

says in their

They did not It dedicated to the HOA. They they dedicated they they listed open space. They listed, I think, the pond. They did not list the the right of way. They did not they they dedicated the the way.

HOA. And they're saying, if it was HOA, then there would be a sidewalk. There's not an HOA at the park. There's not one at the detention pond. It's only on property lines.

The intention was the residents to take care of it because you take Lake City, then you got Galveston that's doing they supply the labor, people supply the supplies, and there's all kinds of things being tried. And Galveston, I talked to him, there's a three year wait on the $50.50 type deal, I guess you wanna call it that, labor and parts or, you know, concrete. So I mean, I don't know that we take a 100 I mean, and I think we also maybe get Caesar look for grant funding because I know the port's doing it under actually sidewalks in neighborhoods through grant funding. So, I mean, that is a possibility. I mean, we helped the HOA because we saw some HOAs at the GOL that were getting funding for projects.

So I mean, I think we look at all avenues. I'm not I'm not completely opposed to it. I just I think we're taking on liability of I mean, there's my best guess are 71,280 square foot of concrete, 3.5 miles roughly inside that neighborhood. I mean, I'm guessing it to be somewhere between 900 to $1,200,000 if you were to take it out and replace it. So I mean, in essence, you're be taking on a huge liability that has and two times, it's had zero backup in it. I mean, there's nothing justifying it.

Are we talking about doing the all sidewalks or just

the I'm just saying period. I think it's just If you start doing that, then you're taking that liability that, you know, if it comes to that point where you have to do it, then are we responsible?

By the way, I 100% agree with you about the backup. There's supposed to be a backup. I will say that I've done this a lot in my career. I would say it every time I'm here, but I've been doing this a long time. And I've been involved in these developments and I know how they go. You know? And so I I am without a doubt, sure, that doesn't bother the HOA. So given the HOA money to me, it just it doesn't make sense. But I like your idea of going for rent buying, go buy rent I mean, nobody said that we have to dig in our pockets today and pay for this. I could pick a lot of reasons why we shouldn't. Mhmm. And and if if if the motion is go to budget cycle and find grant money and and do all that Then

start going out for bid.

I'm all for it. You know, go out for

motion on bid was put it out for bid and then come up with a plan at the end of once we get three bids on what this even looks like because I've seen two different maps of repairs where they need to be in a conflict each other. So, I

mean Yeah.

We need a master map of what actually needs to be done. Is it less than two inches? If your tree actually did the concrete, is that our responsibility? Your tree in your front yard actually messed up the sidewalk? That's just something that I can't answer that question I'm asking, guess. But did WSAC 12 have something to do with it? Did Frontier have something to do with it when they went in there and did their lines? I mean there's a lot of variables here that we don't know. We just know it's messed up and I get that part coming through it as well.

It's kind of like there's a storm and your neighbor's tree falls onto your house. So how are you gonna come up with that number?

I would do it like a road review. That's what I I think

that's

question.

You using, walkability grant. So I mean, there's I mean, even Home Depot might participate in this. They're reading all this stuff. I mean, so there's a lot of different things we need to look at. So I mean and maybe they'll HOA does try to get some grants from their side as we work on as well. So I mean, it's not I don't think it's just one-sided.

Correct. I still don't know how you get the get unless unless I'm business on them, I still don't know how you get the actual what it's gonna cost somebody to be prepared without sending somebody out to do it.

That's what I'm saying. Pay somebody to go out and do a master deal. Mean, estimate it because you know the estimated cost. I mean, we can add 1015% to it because we're not doing it for six months just to cover ourselves for budgeting. And do diligence. Mean, you're gonna add something. It might go down, hopefully it won't.

Alright. So what does that look like? How how does Doug amend that one?

Doug doesn't. Just I don't have the energy for this. Make another one.

So that one fails for lack of

a second. That would complicate everything a little.

Somebody else may do it. Can't I'll make an attempt at this.

There you

go. I'll make a motion to obtain a map of repairs and budget for the sidewalks in Kemah Oaks by a third party decided by Caesar? Is that good? Is that good enough?

You want it by a certain date though? I don't know what the suggestion is. Get it done. Can we get the numbers by June or July?

June or July for budget.

Budgets. Mean, so by the June?

By the

Okay.

We have a motion by councilman Isaac Saldanha. We have a second by councilman Doug Meisinger. All those in favor?

Aye. Aye.

Any opposed? Motion carries. We do not have an item for executive session. Do not believe. Does anyone have any comments or questions? Seeing and hearing none, I will adjourn the meeting at 04:54.