Municipal Council - Regular Meeting

I'd like to call to order the Norristown Municipality Council meeting of Wednesday, August 5th.

And I have a moment of silence and pledge of allegiance.

Madam Secretary, roll call, please.

Natalie Colson, Madeira Robinson, William McCoy, Jasmine Griffin, David McMahon, Dustin Queenan, Rashad Bates.

Here. Council, do I have a motion to approve the minutes from July 21st of 2026 work session and the minutes from July 23 special meeting? All in favor? Aye. Thank you. Executive session, we have executive session on personnel matters and information. And we'll move on to announcements.

A Spanish interpreter device, we have Jess back there. And I don't have anything for today. Is anybody else?

Councilman, oh good, Councilman McMahon.

Just a reminder, tomorrow evening will be my next town hall. It'll be at 6.30. We'll be at the First Presbyterian Church on the corner of DeKalb and Airy Streets. We'll be using the side entrance across from the juror parking lot, which will be free to park in after 6 o'clock. The main topic for the evening will be community participation and how to get committees and how we can support other work in this town if we want to have farmers markets and community gardens, how the municipality might assist in all that. Thank you. Thank you.

And then Councilman McCoy.

Yes, this Sunday, August 9th at 8 p.m., I'm doing a run-through town with Councilman Will McCoy. We're starting at the Municipal Steps at 8 p.m. If the weather permits, we'll just be running around District 2. Less than a 30-minute run. If you can make it, please come out. Thank you.

Councilman, any other announcements? Okay. Madam Secretary, we have public comments?

I have no public comments.

No public comments? Okay. All right, we'll move on to presentations. We'll hold off on that for now. We'll go with the fire. Resolution 26-64, request for municipal council to authorize the purchase of a rescue boat trailer.

Good evening, Municipal Council. Before you this evening for consideration is resolution number 2664. It's a request of Municipal Council to authorize the purchase of a rescue boat trailer. This would replace a existing trailer you have that's 14 years old and is now creating, it's been creating safety issues for our folks to deploy along with we've been losing some equipment off the trailer as we're telling it behind. So we're requesting a new boat trailer. It is part of our approved 2026 CIP plan. The vendor is a CoStar's vendor, and it is under budget.

Council, do you have any questions or comments?

What type of trailer is it? Because you said you're losing stuff off of it.

It's a boat trailer. It holds two of our inflatable boats. On the front of it, it holds our boat motors. boat motors are falling off the trailer, as we're telling it.

Is it made of wood or metal?

It's metal. Okay.

That's not repairable or anything like that?

It's repairable, but I don't know how to repair it, right? The way that motors are fastened onto the tongue of the trailer, it is, we have to use rope to lasso the

Okay, because how much, the new trailer is?

$28,905.90.

All right, and do we have a cost to repair it?

I have no idea.

Okay.

In addition, you know, it's a safety issue. So we've had firefighters fall off the boat trailer at the Riverfront Park. There's no, you know.

Is it because of the same reason that stuff has fallen off?

It's seen better days, right? It's just, it's 14 years old. Right, I got that.

I'm talking about, you're saying things are falling off. Is it because of the same problem, or is it?

I think it might have been a design issue that we've been living with, right? But it's... It's part of replacement and out with the old and with the new, right? It has limitations. This existing boat trailer has no lighting. The new boat trailer will have lighting on it so we can operate in no light environments. The trailer we have is essentially just a double deck boat trailer that we have to manually lower Using firefighters to lower this boat from the top tier down to the ground. So there's always a risk of injury doesn't have any mechanical Ways of doing it that the boat is the boat trailers just has seen better days. I

And Co-Stars, why are we using Co-Stars? Did we check different places ourself or you just went straight to Co-Stars?

So we went out and inspected out. The lowest bid was a Co-Stars vendor, which happens to be out of Maryland. We did get three price quotes for this boat trailer. The lowest one is the one that's a Co-Stars vendor.

All right. And just for me, did you supply accounts with the different bids or?

No, I did not.

Okay.

That's enough for me. Council, any other questions or comments? Councilwoman Robinson.

Just to verify, Chief, this is currently approved under your 2026 capital improvement plan, is that correct?

It is.

And I'm sorry, I didn't catch the last part. You went to CoStar directly or did they bid out for this?

I'm sorry?

For COSTARS, you went to them directly, or?

So COSTARS is a state low-bid purchasing program that allows us to purchase products through that low-bid purchasing program.

Thank you. I was just wondering, because I see it noted that it would be under budget utilizing COSTARS. So I didn't know if there was also a reference point for what that budget difference might be.

So the budget, I believe, for the boat trailer was $30,000, I believe. So we're slightly under the budgeted amount for the boat trailer.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Kathy. CIP is a wish list. It's something we may budget for if we choose to do it. It's not that we already put the money there and this is what we're going to purchase. It's just so we budget just in case we do want to purchase those. It's more of a wish list. We didn't approve everything on it. We just made sure the money was available.

Right.

Okay.

all right thank you council any other questions comments all right seeing none do i have a motion to pass resolution 26-64 request for municipal council to authorize the purchase of a rescue boat trailer second madam secretary

Natalie Colson. Aye. Jasmine Griffin. Aye. William McCoy.

Aye.

David McMahon. Aye. Nadira Robinson. Aye. Dustin Queenan.

No.

Rashad Bates. Aye. Motion passes.

Thank you.

Thank you, Municipal Council.

Thank you, Chief. Finance. Resolution 26-67, request Council to approve a three-year contract with Scenario for their financial modeling software. Excuse me.

Good evening, Council. Tonight's request, Council, to authorize the purchase of their financial modeling system. Scenario had a demonstration to Council in the June 16th meeting. The total three-year cost of the contract is $60,000, $20,000 a year, and I'm asking tonight for approval. Any questions?

Council, any questions or comments?

I have a comment. Well, you gave us a presentation which shows the benefits of that and how it can help us make decisions on the fly. Correct.

I appreciate that. This particular product I like most is when we go forward with these large projects, we hope to go forward, it'll show us the impact to our credit rating. So that was the nicest part of this particular product.

I appreciate that, that you showed us.

Councilman McMahon? Okay, sorry. I thought you were hitting your button there. Council, any other questions or comments? Seeing none, do I have a motion to pass resolution number 26-67, request Council to approve the three-year contract with scenario for the financial modeling software?

So moved.

Second.

Madam Secretary.

Natalie Colson. Aye. Jasmine Griffin. Aye. William McCoy. Aye. David McMahon. Aye. Indira Robinson. Aye. Dustin Queenan. Aye. Rashad Bates. Aye. Commission passes. Thank you.

A request of council to adopt resolution 26-68, 2026-2030 capital improvement plan revision.

Thank you. Due to changing circumstances over the past six months, staff has requested changes to the CIP budget for the 2026 to 2030 time span. Part of these changes are, there's two parts. One is the 2025 carryover. The largest part of that is ARPA. The rest of it is changes which net down to $212,000. So we'll go through that in detail. Oh, and the $212,000 increase also includes $168,000 grant. So all the details are in your detail packet. You have everything, the old CIP with all the projects with the changes. It also has your inventory. And on your desk, you should have the summary of just the changes. So that's what we're gonna go over right now. Please note, this is a budget. You're not approving these purchases. Every purchase will have to come before you to get approval before they're actually purchased. This is a budget. Okay. And also you have three options. You can adopt the changes. You can adopt the changes or you can adopt all these changes or part of the changes or you can table it for additional information. So that will be your choices when we get through all these changes. Okay, the first line you see is the carryovers. It's $2,999,000. Most of that is ARPA carryover. The other changes are just manufacturing delays. The purchase resolutions have already come before you, and it's just not getting paid until 2026. The next line are price changes. Our fleet manager gave us changes to everything we've had on the list, and it's actually a decrease of $116,000. The next section, these are timing changes and cancellations. The police have three on there that they've canceled. The first one was changes because of the parking enforcement, changes there. The police transport vehicle was SWAT. We don't need that anymore because we're part of the county. And the third one was a prisoner transport ban that they're deleting and then want to replace it with something else. And then the last one is the extended cab pickup. Uh, that was needed before we were able to replace it. So we had to dump $7,000 into it to fix it up. So it could be used. So it, it it's given us a few more years. So that's pushed out to the 2020 30 for replacement. And the next section is all the additions. Uh, the first two have already been approved through council, through a resolution. The camera trailers were paid through an LSA grant. The ballistic helmets was more of a safety issue, so they were just approved recently. The next one is the police transport community vehicle. Let's see, they're gonna use this as a pickup truck. They're gonna use it for police response and also for community events. And the cost will be offset by the vehicles they eliminated. Staff is here for any questions if you have anything specific as we go along. Okay.

Okay. The police transport community, so that doesn't exist right now, right? And that's going to cost us $111,000.

Well, they're eliminating, they've been using different types of vehicles. They've been using the parking vehicle, then they're using the transport van, and... now they're gonna use something more useful, a pickup truck that they can use for community events, like last night, or transporting police. I mean, Chief can speak to it more if you like. No, no, no.

Just by way of history, I was not here in 2026 when this CIP was created. After coming on board, I reviewed it with fleet, I reviewed it with my internal staff. Our recommendations were to remove those three vehicles. One was the parking enforcement, slash community relations. I don't necessarily know. I think it was just a PCL parking enforcement. This police transport van, which was our SWAT van, so to speak, and then also a prisoner transport van. The SWAT van we no longer need because we are a part of Central Montgomery SWAT, so we don't have to have that vehicle. The President of Transport and I work in fleet to reevaluate the current van we have. Although it may be old in years, it's very low in mileage. We feel that it's more prudent to just maintain that vehicle and then place that for replacement at a later time. I don't know the exact timeline on that. And then moving back down into what the ask is now is to get that community transport vehicle for the police and our community engagement unit. If you recall, in our 2026 crime plan, we wanted to stand up our own community engagement unit. and it was gonna work independent of patrol and detectives and whatnot, so they have a specified vehicle that we can outfit and equip for all our community engagement needs, and it can work independent of patrol. So what you saw last night, you saw a lot of patrol vehicles, that were detailed to our event, which is great, but when we get our traffic safety unit up, that pickup truck won't be there. Our prisoner transport van would probably be allocated for resources. So what we did is we originally asked for CIP in 2026 with three vehicles. After we reevaluated that situation, we removed two, and we're here before you tonight to ask for that one.

Can you talk me through a little bit more visually what the use of that vehicle looks like? I know you keep saying community events. I'm just having a hard time picturing this pickup truck, how it's used and why it's needed. If you could just walk me through it.

Well, right now, like last night, we needed a pickup truck last night to transport the tables, the water rice, the chairs, the canopies that we use, the giveaways, the locks and everything. That all has to get transported. And a pickup truck is the most convenient way to do that because it hauls a lot of stuff. It's easy to get it in and get it out. Um, so, and last night we did that vis-a-vis our traffic safety truck. Well, we all know traffic safety is an important part of our community and hopefully next year when we get our, well, hopefully this year when we get our traffic safety person, that unit will be deployed to the street doing traffic safety work. Um, if you've seen other municipalities, uh, you do see other municipalities that are doing strong community engagement plans, they'll kind of, put graphics on the truck to make it more approachable, so it doesn't look like a police vehicle. And it just serves as a general utility and purpose vehicle when we have events.

As of currently right now, that vehicle is needed once in a while, specifically to events like last night that just happened annually. But the hope for the department is to have a more consistent presence with this community engagement in a separate department and that would deploy this vehicle more often. Is that?

This vehicle is going to be used daily. Again, we're going to staff that unit with our community service officer. So they're going to have a dedicated vehicle. So once we get the next part of staffing together, there'll be an officer assigned to that. So they're going to have a vehicle to utilize for that. When you need to transport people back and forth, we'll use it for the engagements. We have a bunch of back-to-school events coming up in August. All the community water races that we do throughout the summer. All the events that we're doing for the summer, this will be a standalone vehicle dedicated to that unit.

My last question. I know that this is a change to the capital improvement plan. How soon do you think that you would be wanting to make this actual purchase?

Why not be at the discretion of the council? I mean, we definitely would like to see that program and that vehicle be fully online by January 1st of 2027. Again, staffing is the first thing. We need to get the people. Then we put the people in units, and then we develop the program for the units.

And there's no indication of a timeline just from your end. I only ask because you mentioned these August upcoming events, just trying to get a feel for if you had a thought. You might not have an idea.

So right now, we're going to use our pickup truck. It's a very nice truck, too. People love it. So we're going to use that for the main, because we don't have a dedicated traffic officer. But I view by mid-October that we're going to make assignments to our traffic officer, and we're going to make a permanent assignment to our community engagement unit. And there will be uniformed police officers who are now assigned to that function. Irrespective, they're not gonna be in patrol answering calls for service and then going out and doing community functions. They're gonna be narrowly tailored to do community function and traffic enforcement.

Thank you. I'm cheap. I'm going to be honest. It's not my money, so I'm real cheap with the constituents' money. Are we retrofitting this? Because when I see that $111,000, that's telling me it's not just a truck. We're doing something else with that truck.

And I will tell you, I got that number from Fleet, and I think that we can do better with that number. That's a placeholder in here. Roundabout, I think a pickup truck, an F-150 Ford, police packages. in the neighborhood of 60,000.

Okay, because that's what was throwing me off. Because I'm looking at this like, okay, are we buying a truck and then fully fitting it? Because this was like a police vehicle for the same price as that.

Yeah, it's not going to be a police vehicle. Like I said, that came from, I don't have the due diligence on what that number reflects. That's a placeholder. But again, any approval here tonight only allows us to budget for it, and then we'd have to come back to you with an actual breakdown of what we're spending. so you'll be able to have a second bite at the apple, so to speak. Okay, Chief, you got 50 grand to figure a truck out, figure out for 50 grand, and then we'll, well, hopefully not 50, but we'll go from there.

Go ahead.

But just as a follow-up to that, where does this number come from then?

It came from fleet. So to outfit the truck, let's say we pay 50, 60, let's say we pay 60 for it. I don't have pricing for 2027 right now. And then we equip it with lights and sirens and everything. It's about 20, so now about 80. And then standalone equipment, probably somewhere around 100, I think is where it could come in at. So I think 111 is what we put in there. Yeah, 111. 111.

I'll see if I get it. Do you have to have the F-150, or are you just looking for something with flatbed space? Because there's different types of trucks.

Again, I haven't priced myself.

I know, it's fleet, right? We gotta talk the fleet.

A pickup truck is generally a utility vehicle, and what we get with them, generally, 50 is about the floor of what you're gonna get on anything. Okay. You know, we could perhaps look at another vehicle, but whether or not, in other words, let's say, for example, we look at another maker model. It has to be domestic, from what I understand, as far as purchasing. So then you're left with Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. And in my previous life, Ford usually was the most competitive.

Okay. Well, since you're here, the command vehicle. Oh, any more questions on this, on this one?

Yeah.

Okay. Now, this is just, it's not replacing a vehicle. This is, we just want an addition to, okay.

No, the command vehicle, it was totaled.

Right.

So, we're replacing it.

Okay. Why isn't the insurance covering our full price?

It covered it, but then it had to pay off the loan. It was financed. So we had about $1,000 left over. It was two years old.

We don't have gap insurance.

We had a, we had.

Gap insurance. So gap insurance is basically, yeah, paid a difference.

We had, we paid off the loan. We had what the value of the vehicle is. And then that paid off the loan.

And I'm taking this because we get additional equipment put in there? If it's a police vehicle, that's the value of the car plus the value of the equipment, correct?

Can we reuse the equipment inside?

It sounds like since the value of the car, to replace it, we didn't get the value for the equipment?

To get the vehicle... It, what does it cost? 56,000. We probably got 57,000 from insurance. Okay. But then we had to pay off the loan. So the net, we had to pay off the loan. We didn't own the vehicle. Right.

So basically, okay.

Since it was only two years old, we still owed a lot of money on it.

So basically, we didn't have to pay the loan. We paid that off. We're just restarting the car in a sense. Okay. Okay.

OK, next, keeping in the Public Works building. For years, they've been trying to patch this up. Oh, chief. They've been patching the heating for years, and it's not working. So it's really a health and safety issue. Jane knows this as well. So we're asking for $100,000. We don't know exactly what it's going to cost, but this was an estimate given to us. It's got to be fixed. Any questions on that one? Thank you. The next one is an extended cab pickup fleet vehicle. Fleets never really had a vehicle on their own. They're always boring vehicles. This one is going to have a lift gate. It's going to have stuff for plowing. all the stuff in there, because Robbie has to go out to field repairs, whether it's a dead battery, flat tire, pickup parts, they have to drive back and forth when they have to take a vehicle to service, they have to have two cars back and forth, so he's always scrambling around trying to get a vehicle. so he tends to keep one that he's going to get rid of and just waits until he can get his own vehicle. So just for efficiency purposes, for him to be able to do the field repairs, picking up materials, and also a backup for the plows. He shows up when there's snow emergencies, so this would give him something to go to if one of the plow vehicles break, or if one's out of service, they can use this vehicle. So it's for efficiency purposes. I can try to answer as much as you can. Oh, also in your, there is a, Robbie did have a write-up for the service truck. So there's details in your detailed packet. That is also in there.

Well, once again, I'm cheap. This is not replacement vehicle. This is additional.

No, for years he's been... barring vehicles, especially this past year with the bad snow, especially when there's bad snow.

He does field repairs and things of that nature, correct?

Yeah, flat tires, batteries. He has to get a tire, pick it up, take it out to the vehicle.

So what vehicles has he been borrowing? I'm just curious.

The last one was the 118 he's been using. I think that was replaced the end of 24, the beginning of 25. So it's...

All right, so if he's just running around.

Yeah, and this one is.

Once again, this is where I'm coming at.

2016. It's a 10-year-old vehicle with a lot of miles, and it's rotting. The bed is rotting.

I don't mind placing it. I'm questioning that price again.

It's because it has to play out. It has to lift gate.

But what does he need the lift gate for?

To get tires and equipment. He has, like, pumps and whatever you have to do to lift up a car. All the equipment he has to put on the truck.

And I know the same thing, Kathy, so I apologize because I know you're not doing the physical work.

I'm not a truck person.

But I'm just curious. The vehicles he's been borrowing, did they have a lift gate or he's been managing without a lift gate?

It's been managing without it.

Okay. That's what I mean.

It's not exactly, don't tell Darlene, it's not exactly safe for them to be lifting up tires.

And these for, they're not regular tires I'm taking it. Truck tires. Huh?

Truck tires. I mean, it could be a fire truck. Or they're dump trucks.

I guess the major cost on this is the lift gate.

I don't have a breakdown.

Yeah, because the truck is a truck.

You could put a... Well, the truck with the plow is about $100,000.

New ones are, yeah. We don't have to get a new one.

That's what, about, we paid about $100,000 for a plow, a pickup truck with a plow.

No, I have relatives that have snow plows and things like that. I would love more information on this vehicle and stuff, things of that nature.

We can push this one aside.

Yeah, because I just want to see that, you know, exactly what he's getting and what alternatives are out there.

I have a question as to putting this aside. I mean, when the actual purchase for this comes, we get to look at it again at that time?

Correct.

Is that right?

Yes. I mean, again, this is just a budget. So you can push back on more. We can give you more information before he presents that resolution. We can get you more information. and then when the relation comes in, you'll be happy with the price.

Right, and I'm pretty sure you guys are doing everything correct. I just owe it to my constituents to make sure I have all the information because I'm spending their money. And I know that you're doing that.

Oh, no, no. Now, do you approve him getting a vehicle? We can always, again, just like the police transport, we can approve the budget, but then he'll, I'll just make sure before he brings a resolution, you have all the details and if you can approve it or disapprove it.

So, you know, I guess this is my thing is, I would love to see the whole plan because I feel like I'm, piecemeal and stuff, and I don't see the whole plan. I would love for them to say, hey, this is what we're doing, this is why we're buying this vehicle, and if you were to make me part of that plan, so I could say, oh, that makes sense, or I could give my feedback or have other questions. But if I don't know the plan, I don't know what I'm kind of doing as a council person approving and not approving. I'm a communications type guy.

Well, if that's the plan is to get him a vehicle so he doesn't have to scramble or lift tires by hand.

No, I hear you.

If you approve the budget, we can always, if you approve him getting a vehicle, then we can always do the price later. I mean, you have to approve the purchase.

Right, I understand what you're saying.

Okay. Next one is the asphalt hotbox. It was to be replaced in 2027, but it's no longer hot, it's not working, so we have to replace it sooner than this year instead of, well, we're requesting to replace it this year than last year.

Yes.

Any questions on?

Kathy, can I ask you a question about... I just want to go back to the truck. We don't have that truck currently. Is that what's being said?

Right, he's using a leftover that's not...

Right, so we don't have that truck at all. Right. Okay, it's needed because he's been borrowing other people's trucks. Yes. Okay.

And if they're all out, he's got to wait or have the service bring a tire.

So then we have someone that needs to go and do something that's not having a vehicle. Correct. All right, thank you.

So if we were to set that to the side, that means that we could potentially prolong purchasing it, right?

If it's not on the budget, it wouldn't even be a purchase.

Oh, so it wouldn't even be considered.

So, I mean, yeah, you'll have to try again next year or it'll have to come before you to get a budget change again.

Okay.

So, I mean, again, we can approve it, but you can always... reject the resolution.

Got it, thank you.

But I'll make sure you get all the details. I don't want to bring resolution and have you reject it, so I'll make sure you have all the details prior to that. And email me all the questions and I'll get them all answered. Any more questions on the truck or the cold hot box? Okay. Next is the Ackies Park Sports Field Upgrades. This was initially brought forth to the initial CIP. It's a total project of $500,000. We didn't have everything all together yet, so we put $100,000 in this year and then the rest in next year's. But now Brianna is ready to start. She's got quotes. So it'll be $250,000 this year, $250,000 next year. In your packet, there is, in the detail packet, I don't know who has the detail packet, there's an explanation of everything she's got for that and is here if you have any questions. on the Ackies Park. And this is the soccer, basketball, and baseball fields. Milling, flatting, sodding, and measuring proper field spaces for football and soccer. Also includes upgrades to the basketball courts, including iron fencing around the entire park, and upgraded signage. And again, she would have to come before you with the resolution for the contract. Any questions on access partners?

I don't see any comments or questions. Or any more, I should say. Good? No? All right.

Okay, so the total, as I said before, of the size of 2025 carryover, the net change is $212,000 increase, and $168,000 of that is a grant. The what? The $168,000 of the $212,000 is a grant. Oh, a grant.

OK. I didn't hear what you said. Thank you.

So again, approve everything, approve something with changes, or table for more information.

I just want to reiterate what you said. Basically, we approve it now. It's still got to come before us for us to approve it. Just to make sure that's clear. It's like we're not approving this is exactly what we're spending.

It's not approving the purchase. Correct. It's approving the budget.

Mm-hmm. Council, any more comments or questions? Mm-hmm.

But just keep in mind that once you approve the budget, staff will go through and do the work to get the resolution together and get the quotes and things like that. So if there's anything, you have questions, let me know. And before they do the resolution, I can make sure you get information on time.

All right. Council, do I have a motion to request, excuse me, do I have a motion to adopt resolution 2668 for the 2026 to 2030 capital improvement plan revision?

So moved. Second.

Madam Secretary.

Natalie Colson. Aye. Jasmine Griffin.

Aye.

William McCoy. Aye. David McMahon. Aye. Madeira Robinson. Aye. Justin Queenan. Aye. Rashad Bates. Aye. Motion passes.

Thank you.

Thank you very much, Council.

Thank you, Kathy.

Moving on to police. Resolution 26-54, request council approval to purchase a command vehicle associated with outfitting costs and associated outfitting costs.

Good evening, Mr. President, members of council. Before you under 26-54 is the purchase or what I would say replacement of a command vehicle that we lost earlier this year due to an accident. The vehicle was parked. It was actually struck by a drunk driver and totaled. The reason we haven't seen an issue with that is because we're down a number of officers in the way the department's been structured. A lot of people who are detectives have taken other assignments. That vehicle that we lost was a command vehicle per se, but it was actually the detective command vehicle. So when we get to staffing detectives, someone's gonna be left without a chair. So that's why we need to replace the vehicle to bring us back to where we were. Again, this is not an addition. This is just a replacement of a vehicle that was destroyed as a result of an accident. So my recommendation to members of council is even to approve the purchase of the command vehicle for the replacement of the one that was totaled.

Council, any questions or comments? No questions. Councilman Robinson.

Chief, you were saying that it hadn't come into play just yet because we were down officers. Can you tell me a little bit more about how soon we need this vehicle?

I would like, again, all things being equal, we're talking another resolution one line down that's going to talk about staffing. It hasn't impacted us exactly yet, but we are approaching, based upon a conditional offers that were made recently, the action item under item B for the PD and then our impending hiring from a test we just had. I envision that we will need this vehicle by the end of the year. And if council makes this approval, we still have to go out into the marketplace, get the vehicle, order it if it's not on the lot, And then get it to an outfit or get it equipped. So even if you approve it today Even if we were breakneck speed, we probably wouldn't see this vehicle till late fall early winter Thank you, that was gonna be my next question the timeline of when we would see the vehicle based on a purchase time Thank you for answering. You're welcome.

Is this being purchased for insurance money as well? This is not the same bill going here is it?

The vehicle we just assessed previously in the CIP and this vehicle are one in the same.

Okay.

Thank you. Yes, sir.

Excuse me. Council, any more questions or comments? Seeing none, where are we at here? What's that? Oh, okay. Do I have a motion to pass resolution 26-54 I'll request council approval to purchase a command vehicle and associated outfitting costs Madam secretary Thank you Resolution number 26-69, request for municipal council to approve extending conditional offers of reappointment officer Tyler Wagner, officer Don Thomas, officer Kane Barrett to the Narsan Police Department.

Good evening, Mr. President, members of council, thank you. Yes, this resolution 2669 is a unique resolution. You may recall, those of you who were here on council some time ago, that we went through this process in 2025 for reappointing Officer David Ochoa. What has happened here, just by way of background, We've had officers who've come to Norristown Police Department, they've worked here, and they've moved on to go to other departments where, as we all know, the pastures may look greener, right? Since that has happened, three of those individuals who left us have indicated they want to come back and work in Norristown PD. And I'm going to submit to you tonight that that is a great thing for this organization. Those of you who know, we've had some staffing challenges. Retention is always a big thing. I spoke at a national conference in 2019 in Washington, D.C. where I identified retention as one of the most crucial and critical issues that we deal with because it's become so competitive right now that officers are able to go out into the marketplace and find that dream police job. Well, some officers must have went out and looked for their dream police job, and you know what they say about dreams, right? Nightmares are dreams, too. And they're back. They want to come back here and serve this community. And financially, this makes so much sense because we are recouping the investment we already made in those officers. One of those officers is a four-year veteran. He was here for four years. He left to go to another department. He decided he wanted to come back here. That officer, we invested his initial training, all his FTO, all the after training that we invested in him. We're going to recoup that. So we're recouping a lot of training that we put out. But I also want to go one step further. This is, I believe, an indication of the right direction that Norristown Police Department's moving. I believe this is reaffirming what we're doing here is right. This municipal council has made significant investments in training, investments in equipment, investments in hiring, and those things are seen by officers who are looking for careers in law enforcement. and I think it reflects positively upon this council, this municipality, and the men and women of the Norristown Police Department. To bring three back sends a message that we have turned a corner on staffing, that we are moving forward with reconstituting the ranks of the Norristown Police Department, and I want to thank you for your continued support. Based on that is my high hopes and recommendation that we approve this resolution to reinstate Officer Tyler Wagner, Officer Don Thomas and Officer Cain Barry to the Norristown Police Department.

Council Member McCoy.

Just for clarity for the constituents and the audience, all three officers left this department with good moral standing, right?

Correct. We have discussed this. We have done cursory backgrounds. They will have to complete a full background. When they, if this is approved tonight, they'll go through a background. They're all officers of good standing in their departments. I know their chiefs. As a matter of fact, I talked with one of them on Saturday at our test. And sometimes things just don't align, and they just, you know, sometimes nostalgia plays a role in things, right? And they wanted to come back here. This is where they felt their home was.

uh... to question on so with the process of this when they uh... when they come back here are they going back to the old positions of the new positions for them how does that work for the role of just happens that we have a lot of positions over so they're just there

They're literally, frankly, I think one of the officers will probably try and be back as soon as we give him the green light from his background. All their equipment's here. Their uniforms are here. They know the town. They know the other fellow officers. So they're really just plug and play. We're putting him right back into service to Norristown.

That's great. Council, any other questions or comments? Seeing none, do I have a motion to pass Resolution 26-69, a request for Municipal Council to approve extending conditional offers to reappointment of Officer Tyler Wagner, Officer Don Thomas, and Officer Kane Barry to the Norristown Police Department. Madam Secretary.

Natalie Colson. Aye. Jasmine Griffin. Aye. William McCoy. Aye. David McMahon. Aye. Madeira Robinson.

Aye.

Justin Cleenan. Aye. Rashad Bates. Aye. Commission passes.

Thank you. Thank you very much, members of council.

Thank you. All right, moving on to planning and development. We'll have the presentation for 1400 to 1408 Powell Street development.

Good evening, Council President and other members of Council. The development team for 1400 Powell Street project regret to inform us that they are unfortunately unable to attend tonight's meeting. So I was just informed that today. So we do hope that we can bring this project before Council sometime in September so the developers will be available to present this project for you. Yeah. The next item? Yeah. You're good.

Sorry, presentation for 225 to 235 East Main Street.

Yes. So tonight we are introducing Shawn Frankel and his development team who are the developers of the proposed project at 225 to 235 East Main Street. As we've done with many developers that have come through here, and other prospective developments. The purpose of tonight's presentation is to bring development before you in the early stages of land development process. This will give council an opportunity to ask questions, learn more about the proposal directly from the developers, and provide early feedback as the plans continue to develop. For this project, it includes an initial commercial phase with plans for future mixed use development at the property. Please also keep in mind that this property is located in the TC zoning district, which does not permit single story buildings, which this initial phase is. Because this initial phase is a single story building, the project will need to appear before the zoning hearing board to seek a variance for that. Mr. Frankel will provide additional details regarding the proposed tenant, the phasing plan, and the long-term vision for the site. So at this time, I'll turn the presentation over to Sean Frankel of the Frankel Management Company and his development team.

Quickly introduce ourselves. First of all, thank you guys so much, council presidents and council staff. We appreciate the opportunity to be able to present to you guys. Over the past three years, my partner Sean and Frank, we've invested about $4 million of our own money into Main Street. It's because we really believe in the development potential of Main Street. We believe that we could be long-term, partners with the municipality we were recently awarded an rcap grant my partner sean is just going to walk you through the basics the preliminaries of who we are and what we're looking to build and we would love your support so i'm going to kick it off to my partner sean franklin thank you guys yes sir

President, members of the council, Janie, thank you for your time. I'm very, very grateful. I apologize. I do stutter, so it might take me just a little bit extra. So we believe in Norristown. We have committed over $4 million to start acquiring properties here. This is not something where we're coming here to flip and sell. And I'm going to never come back. This is a long-term hold. We have invested the money over three years ago. Now we have an opportunity to take a vacant, abandoned building and start the first phase of the process, which is to bring a tenant here. Can we look to the next slide? So we have an opportunity to bring Sherman Williams here. to them, we talked about keeping the structure and then just putting Sherman Williams here in talks with the tenant and talks with our contractors. We actually think it's a better opportunity to tear down the structure and build something We want to listen to you. We want to hear your view. We think it's a good addition because it's something new. It's going to show growth. It's going to allow us to have something that is not a rehab. It's something new, and it will also allow us for our experience and the second phase of the construction, which is apartments on top. If you could flip to the next slide. So the second phase of this is after the construction is done, we're going to build on top. Now somebody's going to say, why don't you do all of that in the first phase? We were able to secure a RACP grant and RACP money is only allowed to be used for commercial applications. So after it's done, I can come back and then I can build the apartments here. Our plan is to build up to 20. That will be primarily driven by how many parking spaces we're able to fit on the site. I have been developing for almost 20 years. I understand that I don't live here. I need to be respectful of what you guys want and need, and I know the parking in every development that I ever did is critical. Everyone's like, no, no, I'm happy to have development, but if you put a car in front of my house, oh no, I'm done. So no matter what we propose here, it has to conform to the parking regulations. So in our search for a tenant, we wanted a tenant that was going to have high turnover of cars, but they didn't need a ton of them, like a restaurant. You need a lot of parking for your staff, for your employees. That would never work on this particular site because we would be constricted by the number of parking spots. So we found Sherman Williams. What we like about that and what we think this is a good opportunity municipality is that it's going to bring people from outside Norristown in who are going to shop and spend money here, where, frankly, a lot of people drive to King of Prussia to go spend their money, and that's where their money stays. It's going to stay here. Because we secured a RACP grant, we have to pay prevailing wage. And we are happy to write into an agreement that we will locally source the jobs here. It's not our first project. We own another one, which we If I can prove to you on my first one that I hired local, that the money stayed here, and it built something here, I think I'm going to have an easier time on my second one. And I would prefer to have an easy life. That's my goal. And, Dustin, I've got to tell you, I've heard about you. This was an eye-opening experience tonight. When we negotiate with our subs, I need you to... And here, because I think I'm going to get a much better deal. You're tough. I'm glad. You're looking out for everybody's money. It's good. I want you to look out for mine. So can we go to the next slide? our development process. This is not set in stone. This is a visual representation of what we would like to do and the speed in which we would like to do it. The only thing I do slow is talk. I want to have this thing done in a year. I apologize for making I've just always learned that my stuttering makes everybody nervous, and if you joke about it, it levels the, it drops the level of tension, especially for me and allows me to talk more fluently. So that's why I joke about it. We would like to do this and have this place open within a year. To do that, I'm going to need your help, support, and your input on how to do it, the manner in which to do it, and the protocols that you need us to do. I would prefer if someone is as direct as they can. Janie, you are. You're very direct. This is what you had to do. And we delivered this. I would like to get our building permits submitted to you by January. and then have them approved in February, and then I would like to start construction in March. I think it's gonna take me 120 days of construction, and we can have them open by July of next year. We think that Sherman Williams is a good tenant, if I could go to the next slide. They're a national company. They're a credit tenant. What we don't want, you or me, especially for me, is to spend all this time and money to get a tenant in here, and then the tenant doesn't survive. This is a tenant that's going to stay here. For the municipality, we definitely don't want a turnover in tenants because other tenants are going to say, if they couldn't make it, we couldn't make it. We have a long-term interest in Main Street. I'm tired of going to other Main Streets. I've been to Bristol. I've been to Mannion. I've been to New Hope. There's a Main Street there that thrives. Norristown should thrive, too. And this is the first. He's in it. It's a credit tenant. They're real. They're going to invest some of their own money to outfit their store. They're looking to sign for 25 years. And we think this is a good first start. If we could go to the next slide. This is just a preview of Our other opportunity here, we also own the corner of the Calvin Main where you guys just spent half a billion dollars on a brand new courthouse. What we have been doing over the past, year and a half is talking to local banks who would like to come here. We think it's a great fit. I would love to hear your idea, but this is just a conceptual plan of what we would like to do on our next opportunity. If we think that this can be done in about a year, like slightly over a year to a year and a half, and it would be completed and done. We've already had some preliminary talks with local community banks. I would like to give you an opportunity to ask me questions, and I hope that I can answer all of them.

Thank you. Council, do you have any questions or comments?

I just wanted to confirm. Is the Sherwin-Williams, will that be a retail showroom versus is that what it's?

I apologize. I should have said that. It's going to be a 1,500 square foot retail operation and a 3,500 square foot store room. That's why I'm able to construct it in that. timeframe, they plan to sell to contractors, and we also plan to sell to people like us that are going to go paint their bedroom.

Got it. Okay. Thank you.

Any other comments or questions? Ms. McMahon?

Yeah, I just have kind of a general question. So the advantage of, like, a company like Sherwin-Williams is that they sort of have, like, a quick customer turnover and sort of low employee count. What are other, like, in terms of a plan B for you, I mean, are there other, what other businesses fit that type of footprint that you may have dealt with? Even if we want to explore reaching out to other businesses in the future, with having that kind of turnover in mind for Main Street, it seems like a useful type of business to have there. Do you have a plan B, for example, similar to Sherwin-Williams, if that doesn't work?

So I'm happy to share the info with you from our broker that we hired to look at opportunities. The opportunities that we heard, it was a little bit challenging to find a credit tenant. The tenants that they proposed to us were local mom and pop stores, thrift stores. That was the most common. And as you develop the township, as you develop Main Street, I would hope that you just don't have chain stores. I would hope that as it grows, there's our mom and pop stores. But we have to start somewhere. Thank you, though.

This location of this coffee shop and this bank here, is that the same location as the potential

I apologize. Across the street? Two different ones. The Sherman Williams is a block down from the courthouse on the same side. This location is across the street from the courthouse on the corner of the Calvin Lane.

So is that where currently it's like a... And assurance. Yes. Oh, and then the grand meaning decal will be right across from there. Yes.

Oh, I see. So that's why we think a smaller, smaller mom and pop coffee shop. It's not a Starbucks. It's not a pumpkin donuts. It's like a mom and pop store across the street from a courthouse, I think, is a no brainer. Yes. Back in olden times, I worked at a pizza shop, and I was like, oh, I should open up a shop here, and I should sell slices here. I'm going to make a fortune. I'm not doing that. But I think coffee shop here, but a bank is a great opportunity. There's a lot of services and applications that the courthouse needs a bank for. There's a lot of them. money orders that flow in and out of that courthouse.

Another thing I will say is that I think the coffee shop is a significant addition to Main Street because typically you have to go outside of Norristown in order to have a coffee date, if you will.

So to answer David's question and to yours, the one thing that I'm trying to get is a Not a supermarket because it's not big enough, but like a larger corner store that sold fresh food. It was expressed to me that is a need in the town. And it was also expressed to me that if I could secure that, the town would be able to do that because that's a need that is lacking fresh food and vegetables. Absolutely. I'm trying. Like, it's hard, but that, like, if I could do that, that would be my first because I'm going to be here for a long time. These are not the only two that I'm planning to own. I need it to thrive. Absolutely, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. President, if I may, I would like to chime in. In this corner, the main and DeKalb Street corner, it's still in the town center district.

Yes.

And in the town center district, The minimum stories you can have are two stories. So is it your intention to also have a mixed use? Because density is actually the key to that particular corner. So is it your intention to come back and add apartments as is encouraged in the Town Center District?

Yes.

I just want to make that clear. So if you were to go with this plan, he would still need a variance, meaning he'd have to go to the board, the board would have to agree, and the board can place conditions, and you, council, you can also place conditions on what you want to see, because that's the vision you have for downtown, and that is to have a live, work, and play, and business in the downtown to bring back the vitality. THAT THE DOWNTOWN NEEDS. THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS TO HAVE A 9 TO 5 DOWNTOWN. YOU WANT PEOPLE LIVING DOWNTOWN. YOUR VISION AS THE TOWN CENTER ENCOURAGES MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE THE SAME MIND.

bring in contractors, which can support our businesses, the food restaurants during the day. And I also like Sherman Williams because they have programs to teach you if you want to get into the painting business. Don't make a difference what level you're at. They'll train you in that, which some of our residents can actually participate in and start their own businesses. You have it right there. So Sherman Williams, to me, is twofold. It will help out the food businesses in the area. and whatever future business you bring, clothing, whatever. But also, it also gives our constituents opportunity to learn their trade or hone their skills and become self-employed. And like you said, the two-layer system, the coffee shop, you know, we're, Norristown downtown is developing, it's coming, and that will fit right in. And that's smart because Whenever I had to go to one of those buildings, I had to run to the post office and get a money order, even in this day and age. But also, banking in here, it's part of your pathway to financial freedom. Education-wise or how to use a bank, it would be beneficial to everyone. Were you talking about putting fresh foods in that coffee shop with that or somewhere else?

there's two opportunities. The bank is actually doable and achievable. That's a term that I love. What is doable and achievable? A dream is not a plan. A dream is a dream. This is actually doable and achievable. And in our search for a tenant or a bank tenant, any of the national banks passed. Every single one of them passed. What we did find traction was with community banks who would serve the people of Norristown better than Bank of America.

And education is key. So whoever goes there, if they become a partner in our center, so many different things we could do together. But coffee shops, I mean, that would make downtown more vibrant. Plus, once the Justice Center is done, I mean, I see win-wins all over the place. And if it looks like that, a beautifier downtown as well.

So, although I would love to take all the credit, my team, my partners, Right.

a non-profit for the last seven years with a lot of youth mentorship and job placement. Sherwin-Williams is a great partner for the community. I'm not paying for them to work for them, but they're always willing to write a check or provide resources for when you have initiatives. So I think other non-profits locally, and hence the community, will also benefit from having a national tenant with a core value focus.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Council, any other questions or comments? Okay, Councilman Robinson.

Thank you so much for your presentation. I just was hoping you could speak a little bit to the other developments that you already previously have on Main Street and the $4 million that you already invested. I'd love to hear a little bit more about that success and what some of those properties are and how they're in use today.

We own two, and it's the two that I mentioned. I bought the two of them for a total amount of $4 million. I started out cleaning toilets. I moved nine times from the time I was born until the time I graduated high school. I went to three different high schools. two different states, although people see me as a property developer, I didn't start out this way. And I'm telling you that because I don't think in terms of a year, two years, three years. I'm thinking in terms of 10 to 20 years. What I would like to envision is to eventually build apartment buildings because that's what I do. And I think if you can get all these apartment buildings there, it's a self-feeding ecosystem where the apartments feed the commercial. And if the commercials are thriving, more commercial is going to come, which is going to drive more apartments. If you cross the river, you see the rents that they're charging. You see the commercial that is going there. And they don't have Main Street. It's like two blocks long. Main Street here has everything. And the commercial should come because you have a half a billion dollar courthouse with how many municipal and county employees there? It's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. And I would like to participate in that over the next 10 to 20 years. But I only own two. Yes. All real estate growth is transportation driven. If you look back on it for thousands of years, we only lived within 30 minutes of whatever the center of city was. And as transportation grew, we allowed ourselves to live outside here. Thank you. That train is platinum. It's not gold. It's platinum.

any other questions or comments you know thank you so much for this presentation this is great thank you thank you thank you all right we are going to sean did you want to make a motion in the agenda yes thank you uh council i'd like to make a motion to open the agenda All in favor? We'll have to do a roll call, right? Yeah. Okay, we'll do a roll call, please. Yes.

Natalie Colson?

Aye.

Jasmine Griffin? Aye. William McCoy? Aye. David McMahon? Aye. Madeira Robinson? Aye. Justin Queenan? Aye. Rashad Bates? Aye.

Thank you. Yes, thank you very much. I mean, I know Council's been very interested, specifically Council Member McMahon and others, in the Plymouth Township Zoning Hearing Board application related to a data center. My firm, just to disclose this, represents the Plymouth Zoning Hearing Board, so we cannot represent Norristown in this matter because that would be a conflict of interest. I was asked by President and Council of Command to explore some possible options of sending counsel, meaning legal counsel, on behalf of Norristown to seek party status at the Plymouth Zoning Hearing Board meeting. That is tomorrow night. as well, so it's a little quick that we have to do this. And so party status, as council is familiar with, is they would go before the Plymouth Zoning Hearing Board, say that we have an interest based on our proximity to Plymouth Township for these various factors, and it will be up to Plymouth Township to go ahead and see, Plymouth Zoning Hearing Board, see if they want to grant it or not. If we have party status, Norristown could then you know, oppose the application, support the application, suggest conditions, call witnesses themselves, and all of that matter. So this would just be a preliminary step. I then was asked who could handle this. It's just a short period of time. And it was suggested perhaps our authority solicitor, but unfortunately they have a, I would view they probably have a conflict as well because they are the solicitor upon the township. So I reached out to our zoning hearing board solicitor, Mr. Rob Saraceni, and he said that he I didn't tell him to date, so we'll see as far as we can make it tomorrow night. But I advised him of the that this potentially could happen, and he said he'd be willing to do it. Obviously, he already has a municipal rate charged by the municipality. Don't know what it is, but I'm sure it's reasonable, and would probably be a lot less than if we went out and tried to engage another law firm at this time. So if council was interested in seeking party status before the Plymouth Zoning Hearing Board, I would suggest the council make a motion to authorize Rob Saraceni and or special counsel approved by the municipal administrator to appear before the Plymouth Zoning Hearing Board and seek party status in the data center application. All right, see if there's any public comment on this.

This is the time for public comment if you have a comment about our secret party status. Do I have to have a motion to close the public comment? Oh, I'm so sorry. Go ahead.

I just wanted to make sure that this is just for the one meeting that we are- You're engaging him and I will ask him to report back to Jane on this matter after the meeting. again i'll have to be somewhat out of this because of our relationship to the diploma zoning hearing board but i have a potential email drafted to him right now and i'll also text him to give him a heads up after this meeting uh just because i know it's tomorrow night so there's something out but uh i'll make sure he reports back to jane to keep you updated

Okay, so now next step here is, oh, we're just, oh, so we're all voting now. Okay, cool. So, Madam Secretary, roll call, please.

Natalie Colson. Aye. Jasmine Griffin. Aye. William McCoy. Aye. David McMahon. Aye. Madeira Robinson. Aye. Dustin Queenan. Aye. Rashad Bates. Aye. Motion passes.

Thank you. Thank you, Sean. Moving on to buildings and code compliance. Request to submit a grant application for PEMA brick grant to replace the software reporting system for hazard mitigation.

Keith was called away to an emergency, so I'm filling in for him. Do the best I can. The code department has been looking at a software system for probably a year now, and it's for use the code department, planning, zoning, and also public works. And he found a grant that he would like to apply for to pay for I think 75% of it, and we would pay 25%. So he's requesting permission to submit a grant application. Any questions?

Council, any questions or comments? Seeing none, do I have a motion to request, excuse me, to request to submit a grant application for Pima Brick Grant to replace the software reporting system for hazard mitigation? So moved. Madam Secretary.

Natalie Colson, Jasmine Griffin, William McCoy, David McMahon, Madeira Robinson, Dustin Queenan, Rashad Bates. Motion passes.

Thank you. All right, and request to approve HAARP COAs.

Okay, he's requesting approval. HAARP has already approved these properties. It's 624 West Main Street and 1027 West Main Street.

Council, any questions or comments?

I have a question.

On this side, we're good.

All right. Council, do I have a motion to request to approve the HAARP COAs? So moved.

Second.

Madam Secretary.

Natalie Colson. Aye. Jasmine Griffin. Aye. William McCoy. Aye. David McMahon. Aye. Madeira Robinson. Aye. Dustin Queenan. Aye. Rashad Bates. Aye. Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, Catherine. Moving on to public works. Year eight municipal, sorry, I'll let you come up. Year eight municipal separate storm sewer system permit compliance and building meeting update.

Yes, thank you council. So the municipality of Norristown has an MS4 permit. It is federally mandated by the DEP. So every year we have to come in front of council. What we want to do is just update them on our permit. We need to make sure that we have that on public record. We have meeting minutes so that we can then include that in the annual report that we have to submit. which is due September 30th of this year. So in your packet, there should have been the update. There's a couple things I just wanted to go over. So in June 11th, we had an inspection. The DEP came, they inspected basically the facilities and our permit. And I'm happy to say that they found no violations, so basically it means that we actually comply with our permit, which is a reflection of Public Works doing their job and making sure that we keep in compliance. The next thing I want to discuss, though, and this is the core activities in this permit, which every municipality has to implement. This is what helps us reduce stormwater pollution and increase water quality. So there's six minimum control measures, which they call MCMs. And I just want to do a quick summary. So MCM 1, which is public education and outreach, That's to educate the public. MCM 2, which is public involvement and participation, is to involve the public. Illicit discharge detection and elimination is to find and eliminate discharges. That's the most important part of the permit program. Construction site runoff control, which is MCM4, that's controlling pollution from construction sites, which we do that through the land development review process and our inspections. MCM 5 is the post-construction run of control, which manages the stormwater after the development. And then the last one is MCM 6, which is pollution prevention and municipal good housekeeping, which is where public works come in. They come in and they check inlets, make sure they're clean. I do have just one more item to go over, which is why we're complying with the MS4. And by the way, MS4 is municipal. Wait a second here. Did not have that. So it's a municipal separate storm sewer system. The separate means that it's separate from the sewer system. So basically with those MCMs, what we're doing is basically conducting public education and outreach, organizing public participation activities, Inspecting the MS4 outfalls, which we've completed, we did outfall screenings. We only had to do that once through our cycle period, which is a five-year cycle period. But as you know, we're on year eight. DEP just has not updated the new cycle. So we're waiting for that to happen, and then we'll go to a year one after that. Next thing, review construction projects and coordinate erosion control compliance. Review and inspect post-construction stormwater BMPs. Train staff and perform those good housekeeping activities, which is the street sweeping, inlet cleaning, and municipal facility inspections. And like I said, we have to submit our annual report September 3rd. So we're not asking for Council to make any action. Just here, just to present to make sure that the update satisfies the permit requirements that we have presented and it's reflected in the meeting minutes. So like I said, so we can put that into our annual report due September 30th. So that's all I had, but I'm happy to answer any questions if Council has any.

Thank you. Council, any questions or comments?

Ted, thank you for your update.

I appreciate it. Thank you.

Council, do I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. All in favor? Aye. Council, we have adjourned.