Planning and Zoning Board & Local Planning Agency - public_hearing

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Yes, you're welcome. Let's pray. Dear Heavenly Father God, we are so grateful that we are allowed to be here tonight. Thank you for your divine protection all day long and thanks to you we are safe here. And God, tonight, as we enter this meeting, we ask for your divine understanding and unity. And we thank you, Lord, for your divine wisdom. And God, we give you all the honor for what you do within this ministry. We pray that you bless them individually. Bless their families. Protect them in Jesus' name. And God, as County, our children went back to school and Lord, we pray for blessings and protection for every school in Brevard County. God, we call upon the blood of Jesus over them. That you protect them throughout the year. Hoe ze ook naar school gaan, of ze nu met de bus gaan lopen, of door hun moeder, vader of grootmoeder naar school worden gebracht. God, bescherm hen en zorg dat ze zich dit jaar concentreren. God, help hen om aandachtig te zijn in de klas. Zegen de leraren, God, met goddelijke wijsheid. Help hen, Heer, om diegenen te helpen die net dat beetje extra hulp nodig hebben. Geef hen dat inzicht, God. En wij danken u daarvoor. Of course, bless the superintendent and his staff. And we thank you for your leadership and guidance to help us through this year. And God, of course, may bless our police officers and firefighters and our mayor and council members. Protect them. Lord, while they do their work to keep us safe. And we give you the honor as a whole, as a county, for the blessing of this county, God. And yes, the United States of America, we pray as a whole. Bring our troops home safely and we thank you for what you do in all of us. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.

Amen, thank you, so appropriate. School traffic controllers are part of the budget we vote on today. So school prayer is very appropriate. Okay. EHM, today's hall. Commissioner Pritchett leads us in prayer and food. I swear allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all. Okay, we're almost there. This agenda. Mr. Chairman, may I make a motion to appoint Commissioner Goodson to participate in the telephone meeting?

I support the proposal.

Okay, there is a motion and a second one to stand up for commissar Boetson on the phone. All those in favor say yes. Yes, okay. Yes, the motion is taken unanimously. Okay, that comes out perfectly. It is 5 o'clock in the afternoon, so we can start. EHM, the public hearing begins with D1, agenda.D1. Jim, go ahead. Good, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Agenda.d1 concerns the reading of the current total tax rate for the part of the budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027 that is covered by incongruous tax. I now request the Budget Bureau to read the current total tax rate for the fiscal year 2026-2027. The current total tax rate for the budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027 is 4.7492. The current total tax rate represents an increase of 6.3%. ten opzichten van het teruggedraaide totale tarief van 4,4753. Het voorlopige totale belastingtarief vertegenwoordigt een stijging van 5,75% ten opzichte van het huidige totale belastingtarief voor het fiscale jaar 2025-2026 van 4,4909. Commissars, as approved by the Council on 21 July 2026, have set the current tax rates on the tariffs required to finance the Council's priorities, including the animal care centre, road improvements, prison infrastructure and other facilities of the county. In addition, the tax rates have been set to ease the impact of the new obligatory spending and at the same time ensure that the reserves are sufficiently filled. Agenda point D2. The Council will listen to comments from the public and then discuss the tax rates and the corresponding income. And agenda point D3. Okay, fine. There is no vote at the moment. Our next item is agenda item D2. Good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Item D2 offers the public the opportunity to comment on the resumption of the county's current budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027. Before we start the meeting, I would like to ask the Budget Office to read the resumption of the current budget. The budget for fiscal year 2026-2027 amounts to $2,425,838,420. This budget represents a decline of $161,915,446 compared to the current budget for fiscal year 2025-2026 of $2,587,753,866. Mijn heer de voorzitter, we zijn nu klaar om het publiek de gelegenheid te geven commentaar te leveren op de herziene voorlopige begroting voor het fiscale jaar 2026-2027. Oké, oké, onze eerste inspraak is van Richard Heffelfinger.

Good evening, Rick Heffelfinger, 2000 Juniper Drive, District 1. I would like to make one last appeal to try to cover the costs for our citizens. I am of the opinion that the introduction of animal husbandry is not an urgent necessity or emergency situation, and I would like to request the administration to deduct the designated $5 million from the increase in the proposed tax deduction for the general fund. The reason I say it's not urgent is that it concerns animal care. There is currently one, but it is 30 years old. I realize that, but I don't see it as an urgent necessity or an emergency situation. I also agree that animal care, just a moment. Look, we had a meeting on, geez, when was that again? Where we had a budget adjustment, a budget adjustment for the third quarter. And then it was determined that you actually had savings on the general fund, or rather, increases as a result of interest rates. And you used them for a number of things that were noted as urgent during the workshop. There was also an extra increase of almost 5 million dollars for the 410 fund of the Sheriff, MSTU. And that is added to the proposed budget. It turns out that he now has a surplus of almost $8 million. And it turns out that only about half of it has been added. So there is almost part of the financing for the animal welfare in the MS-TU fund that is not issued this year. I think that if it is an urgent need and an emergency situation... And since the animal welfare falls under the responsibility of the sheriff, he could still assign that money. You could achieve both things and lower the costs for the taxpayer in the general fund. And that's what I would like to see happen, a motion to cut that $ 5 million and then maybe an recommendation to the sheriff. I don't know who assigns his budget, how those decisions are made. I know you're giving it to him, but I would like to see him say that this is a priority or crucial for him, since it falls under his responsibility and that he uses part of the money he has for it. Dank u wel.

Dank u wel. Dalton Simpson, onze volgende spreker.

Hey, hoe gaat het met jullie vanavond? Mijn naam is Dalton Simpson en ik ben hier om met jullie te praten over de honkbalvelden van Stradley in Cocoa. Onlangs heb ik een aantal foto's en andere informatie ontvangen over de grasmat, de overstromingen en de honkbalvelden. Ik geloof dat het honkbalseizoen, als het nog niet begonnen is, binnenkort van start gaat. Door de hevige regenval is er nu veel wateroverlast en is de grasmat beschadigd. See that you, and I just started here, have an agreement with Cocoa, but they are responsible for the infrastructure and you for the maintenance of the fields, the irrigation and the like. Goedenavond, mijn naam is Dalton Simpson en ik ben hier vanavond om te praten over de overstromingen en de huidige situatie op de honkbalvelden van Stradley. Dit gaat over meer dan alleen nat gras of een veld dat er slecht uitziet. Dit gaat over een openbare voorziening die onze kinderen, gezinnen, coaches en de gemeenschap veilig zouden moeten kunnen gebruiken. Als deze velden onder water staan, kunnen ze niet goed onderhouden worden. Trainingen en wedstrijden worden erdoor beïnvloed, de velden raken in verval en het levert veiligheidsproblemen op voor de kinderen die ze gebruiken. Wat ik vanavond aan de gemeente vraag is simpel. We hebben antwoorden nodig. Sorry, I'm a little nervous. It's going well, EHM.

While you're trying to find your way. Yes, yes, EHM, maybe. I've seen photos of Stradley and it's a mess and it's a danger to public safety. I'm suffering from those children. Jim, you too? EHM, Mr. Simpson, I haven't read it yet, but I saw part of an e-mail and an e-mail exchange in which it said that our park administrators and the municipality of Kokoa have worked together on a number of problems. There was talk of floods, the railing was locked on the railing and that gentleman there... Where is he? Ian Bolden, if you want to talk to him now that you're done talking, he can give you an update on the situation.

I have seen his name too. And I also saw that you have lost a lot of money to that financing in recent years. So, this is the point. I played honkball there. My mother too. My child is still young. I see a lot of people talking about it, but that's only on the internet. I wanted to show them that this is the place where you should be and where you should be if you want to see changes. So, thank you for giving me that time, but I found my place. If you want me to quit.

Go ahead. So, not, my apologies. No, it's fine. So, here it is. This is the end. EHM EHM, what the cause of the damage to the terrain is also, I ask the municipality to investigate the problem and give the municipality a clear answer. Our children deserve a safe and playable basketball field. The coaches and parents who voluntarily invest, earn better, and the taxpayers deserve to know that our parks and recreation facilities are maintained well. I'm not here tonight just to complain. I am here because I want to help to get something for each other. So I ask the municipality to identify the responsible department of the apartment complex, what you have just done, inspect the flooding and drainage conditions in Stradley Park and present the municipality with a concrete plan and time scheme for solving the problem. Many people in the municipality give to these fields and we keep an eye on the situation. We just want Stradley to become a safe and usable basketball field for our children. And before I close, I would like to say Rest in peace, Coach Keith Gordon. His impact on these children and this basketball community must not be forgotten. Thank you. Thank you for your presence and I know that I share your concern. I know that the committee above is also concerned about that. Thank you. Yes, in that district and everything we can do. I understand your pain personally. I have experienced the same with my children. We had muddy fields in Fiera and look now. We had muddy fields in Merritt Island. They have improved. So yes, this is important for these children. I appreciate that you are here and that it brings our attention. And as I said, I remember that there was a time that Cocoa Lily no longer participated in the Lily World series. You know, they have produced a lot of good things. So thank you. I appreciate everyone. Yes, haha, there we end. Yes, thank you. Okay, I think that's all our points for day 2.

Yes.

Okay, we'll continue with Ul. There is no vote at the moment. We continue with agenda point D3. Okay, commissarissen, point D3 is recommended. It is recommended that the Council of County Commissioners discuss the tax rates for the fiscal year 2026-2027 and determine in advance. This part reflects the tax rates that were approved by the administration in July 2026. The general tax rate for the County Fund is currently determined on the critical need rate of 3.0942. For the approval of this rate, a qualified majority is required, according to the maximum rate of the county and the state legislation. In addition, all tax rates above the return rate now require at least a qualified majority as a result of recent legislation relating to unlawful tax. Possible changes in the tax rates under this part, sorry, let me repeat that. Possible changes in the tax rates under this part will be calculated again and made known under part D4. Okay, we have one more map. Uh, jee jee. Good afternoon, dear commissars, county manager, and of course I must not forget the county's lawyer. My name is J.J. Woolsey. I am not only a personnel representative of the Coastal Florida PBA, but also a proudly retired member of the Brevard County Sheriff's Office, where I served as a help sheriff with retirement after 32 years of service. On behalf of the Coastal Florida PBA and the hundreds of members we represent, including a few hundreds of the Brevard County Sheriff's Office, we are proud to stand before you tonight. As representatives of the Sheriff's Office's collective negotiation unit, we have had the pleasure of being able to represent an extraordinary group of men and women who work hard every day to keep this county safe. We consider ourselves very happy with the exceptional leadership of our commissars, county manager and sheriff, who consider public safety as a top priority. Brevard County is a unique county to manage. We understand that, but thanks to the fantastic relationships we have all built up, your support, your leadership and your trust in us mean a lot to us. And we can't thank you enough for making Brevard the safest county in Florida. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And I think that's our last vote. And now the board has to vote on the temporarily set military tariffs for the fiscal year 2026-2027. Is there a motion to approve? Is there a second? Second. Second. Discussion? Debate? Alle die voor zijn, zeggen ja. Ja. Tegen? Nee. Aangenomen, 4 tot 1, met commissaris Velten die tegenstemt. Ik hoorde hem. Dat was een ja, toch commissaris Boetson? Meneer, dat was een ja. Ja, dank u. Okay, EHM, following agenda.d4. Jim, okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Agenda.d4, based on the approved changes in the tax rates that are approved at agenda.d3, I now ask the budget department to read the revised total tax rates in the notary. The total return rate for the fiscal year 2026-2027 is 4.4753. The total current tax rate for the fiscal year 2026-2027 is 4.7492. The total current tax rate is 6.12% higher than the total return rate. Okay, are there any suggestions? There are no proposals for this point and no voting is needed at this moment. We will continue with agenda point D5. Good, thank you, Mr. Chairman. In accordance with the provisions of Brevard County, I request approval of the fiscal year 2026-2027 for the following instances. a. Waste management. b. Department of Seawater Transport. c. Fire, not at Valorem Heffing. d. Melbourne Tilman Water Control District. Okay, a vote in the administration is required to approve the regulations for these districts and programs.

A motion to approve.

There is a motion to approve for waste management, groundwater supply, fire and Melbourne-Tillman. Is there a second? Second. Motion supported. Discussion? Debate? All in favor say yes. Yes. Yes. Against? Unanimously accepted. Okay, we continue with D6. Utilities. Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is considered that the management of the Barefoot Bay Water and Sewer District approves a resolution in which the budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027 is set. Therefore, an agreement is needed in the management to approve the budget resolution for the Barefoot Bay Water and Sewer District. Motion in order.

I want to submit a motion to approve.

A motion to approve. Approval. Second. All in favor say yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Thank you. We will now proceed with agenda point 7. D7. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the basis of the action taken during this public hearing, I now request the Budget Bureau to read the current budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027. Chairman and Board of the County Commissioners, the current budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027 amounts to $2,425,838,420. This budget represents a decrease of $161,915,446, or 6.26% less than the current budget for the fiscal year 2025-2026 of $2,587,753,866. Mr. Chairman, request for preliminary approval of a resolution to determine the budget of Brevard County for the fiscal year 2026-2027. Motion to approve. Is there a second?

Second.

Motion to approve the resolution concerning the budget for the fiscal year 2026-2027. All in favor? Yes. Yes. Yes. Against? No. The budget is adopted with 4 to 1 votes, with Commissioner Velten voting against. This concludes the hearing on the current budget. Now we continue with the administrative reports. Sir, we have D8. I want to ask for the resolution on the rates of D8 for utility provisions in Barefoot Bay. Okay, good. I have to get it here in advance. Hey, Mr. Chairman, we have 85, 80. Yes, yes, for one or other reason my agenda is not in place. Done, we are ready for it. EHM, good evening. Point D8 concerns the approval of the change in the tariff resolution for barefoot bay services and the establishment of the barefoot bay water and sewage district. EHM, this is the public hearing. We have made the announcement and we ask the council for instructions on the change in the tariff resolution. Okay, we have three speakers. The first is Sidney James.

Good evening, commissars. I want to say that there is a reason why the other five wastewater purification installations in Brevard County are integrated into the system of the entire county. There is a reason why there has never been a decision made to remove one or to separate them all. I don't know the reasons. But it just feels. I must return to that matter of honesty and equality. I know that the commissar's letters have been received. That's because all of you are equal members of the management of the Barefoot, Beewolter and Soer district. It's not up to Commissioner Atkinson. The person who talked about floodwaters in Honkbalvelde, that's one district. All commissars agree that they don't want flooded Honkbalvelde, even if it's not in your district. We have no good reason to save your commissars and voters money by integrating us earlier. Or you, Mr. Altman, Mr. Veltner or Mr. Goodman. We are responsible for a reduction of the tariffs from 5.15% to 2025 without further tariff increases until 2030. We have read the tariff analysis and agree with it. So we urge you to vote yes. We also ask you to consider dropping our district and integrating it into the district's broad system. We are happy that you voted to drop our district and integrate it into the district's broad system. We only ask you to reconsider this and we will probably continue to ask you to do this sooner, so that we get a meaningful tariff reduction. I would like to ask a question that I would like to answer tonight. De heer Fontanelle zei tijdens de vergadering van 4 augustus dat ons nutsbedrijf niet voldoet aan de eisen van het DEP . We willen graag weten of dat klopt en zo ja, op welke manier. En of er boetes worden betaald vanwege dit feit. Ik wil ook graag aan ieder van u vragen. why you are a representative of integration in the provincial system as soon as the obligations have been paid off, but not earlier, and why you do not want to give us the opportunity to continue to pay off our obligations. Thank you.

Okay, we will note those questions and discuss them afterwards. The next one is Hannah Wilander.

Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission. I am here also to support the reduction of our tariffs for 2026 to the tariff of 2025 with 5.15%. And also, uh, wait a minute. I am used to this and I would have to get this information out of my head by now. And no further tariff increases, as already stated, and we really appreciate that. The most important reason why we are so busy here is that many people with a low income live in our community, including pensioners with a fixed income. They have it difficult and our economy is currently in a bad state. That is also our mission. We want to see what we can do to help them. We are very happy that you are going to close our water purification installation. But there must be a way in which it is advantageous for the entire county and the customers of the Barefoot Bay Water Sewer District to integrate us earlier. We are going to work on that, because we have overloaded Commissioner Atkinson with data and we will continue to investigate this. But looking at the figures and how they connect to each other, how it would be advantageous for both parties without extra costs arising for them, is important for us, and I know it is important for you as well. So, let's take a look, and then the obligation debt, of course we stay tied to that and we understand that that is our obligation and that we will pay it. So if there is a possibility to integrate earlier than the end of 2029, for example on January 1, 2030, we would appreciate it if you continue to work on it and investigate it further. It is important, very important, and the only one, and that we would consider the obligation debt as a separate post. We have decided not to pay. Absolutely. So, thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it very much and please vote yes.

Thank you very much. Thank you. John Requa.

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Here is a copy of what I have given to Mrs. Atkinson and there are more than 500 copies of petitions for which we are concerned. I also agree that we want to be integrated as soon as possible and we are grateful for the construction and the return that we would like to see. What I do understand is the dilemma that you have with your voters. And this is what I would say to them, because you will have to say something. I would say to them that you inherited what your ancestors did. And that was wrong. And for a few dollars a month, what it will cost your voters, it would be a huge relief for the people of Barefoot Bay to correct that mistake. That is what I would say. And I want to continue on this. I want to spend some more time on these last few sentences. I am retired as a federal police officer. And during my time as a police officer, a few agents came in one day and told me about a situation during an internal training. It was very bad. So bad even that the army did not want to intervene. Vanwege het ernstige risico op lichamelijk letsel en mogelijk zelfs de dood. Ik heb het incident beschreven en via de juiste kanalen doorgestuurd. Niet lang daarna kreeg ik om half vijf ochtends bezoek. Ik werkte nachtdienst voor mijn kapitein. Als een kapitein je om half vijf ochtends komt opzoeken, is dat geen goed teken. Hij vertelde me dat... He believed that I had done the right thing and that it probably saved lives. But the chef had sent him a photo of me to ask for on his dartboard and said that it was good that I had already received a promotion, because otherwise I would not have seen it. Okay. I had to follow the right procedures and defend my business, which I also did. I applied an alternative solution to them, which they now use. That decision cost me thousands of dollars during my retirement, because I was never promoted after that. And to this day, now that I have been retired for eight years, I am convinced that I have made the right decision. There are consequences associated with doing something good. And those consequences have damaged my retirement, but it was the right thing to do. I would do it again. So I understand that the decisions you make have consequences for your voters. I wanted to share that story with you so you know I understand.

Thank you for sharing that with us. That's all. Mr. Atkinson.

If there is no discussion in the board, I would like to submit a motion to approve. I support the motion.

There is a motion to approve and what we approve is that the Council of County Commissioners approved the tariff resolution for the utilities of Barefoot Bay, which includes the Barefoot Bay Water and River District. This resolution lowers the tariff and maintains the lowered tariff until December 31, 2029. Okay, is the motion supported? All in favor say yes. Yes. Ja. Tegen. Nee. Unaniem aangenomen. Dank u. Oké, dank u. Goed. Okay, I think that's all. Do we have anything else? Let's go to the administrative reports. County Manager. I don't have a report. Thank you. County Attorney. No new report, Mr. Chairman. District 1.

I have shared an agenda item with the commissioners. I would like to ask the employees to come back with information. A possible local petrol tax or something like that. They could ask the employees to watch this in future meetings. A lot depends on the question whether we will do this if it becomes a user exemption next year. Taxes need to be changed or lowered if more money comes in to cost roads and infrastructure. So if you are willing, I would like to make a motion to ask the employees to collect some information for us. Okay.

I accept the motion, but I have a question. When I'm ready for it, we're ready for it. Okay, okay.

My question is how exactly this fits, because I don't know. How does this influence people who drive electric cars on our roads? It doesn't. So what do we do about it? Does anyone have any ideas?

May I say one thing? Sorry, Mr. Chairman. Yes, go ahead. When gasoline oxides were introduced, it was an easy matter because the owner of the pump also had the tax in it. Okay? That has changed drastically and if you increase these kinds of things, you get an increasingly large share in a shrinking market. So you don't really take the problem, because cars are becoming, and that is positive, more and more efficient. There are more electric cars. There are more hybrids. There is everything, like car shares. There are all kinds of other possibilities. So it is absolutely no solution for the long term. You will continue, I mean, the Ministry of Transport of Florida and the federal government. look at something else, because they know that the income from the gasoline oxides will continue to fall. So, I will not vote for that, but I do want to let you know that that is the problem with the gasoline oxides.

I think that if we just get some data, the employees will let us bring the figures and the amounts. I will no longer be there when you make calculations next time. I have experienced this. It is difficult. It is that, or you will soon have to lower the wages of many people. So I would rather try to find a way to do this, because we cannot continue to tax our citizens as we do now. It is getting more and more difficult. And people find it very difficult to pay their bills. And it's not just about taxes. It's about everything. Pindakaas went from $3.78 to a little more than $7, and that's just bizarre. Anyway, I thought this was something to keep an eye on for you in the future. That's why I would like the employees to come back and collect some data for us. We have a motion and a second one.

The commissars are different. May I say something about the timeline for this? Because depending on the direction the administration wants to take, this may be important for you. There are two ways to release the petrol-accents that are not currently being held here. The first is through a referendum during the general elections. The deadline for 2026 for this is in August. So no referendum this year and we are two years away from a next referendum date. A qualified majority of the council, a majority plus one vote, would be able to introduce the gasoline actions. To introduce those actions on 1 January 2027, the council would have to do that on 1 October this year. We only have one regular meeting and that is next week. So, to let something happen in 2027, the meeting next week is the only opportunity for that. If we only talk about the planning for the future, and if an implementation date of 1 January 2028 is acceptable, then we have no time pressure. I don't want to confront you later with a lot of information and say, but if we hadn't told you this earlier, it would have been too late to do anything about it. So I wanted to share that timeline with you. I have done this before, but... You are still short here, commissioner.

Can a new administration, after receiving the data, still look at it, for example in December?

They can still look at it in December, but they can't do anything before January 1, 2028. Okay, good.

Do you have a question? So if we got the information now, would it be outdated or useless later? Or would it still be relevant?

I assume that it would still be relevant. The older the information, the less relevant it is naturally, but if we look at it for a reasonable time, we would. We can still do it and put it on the list later, or... On the list for the general elections of 2028, which means that it could be in force in 2029, or with a qualified majority of votes before October next year, the administration could decide that it would be in force on January 1, 2028. But the next meeting is literally the only possibility if you want something for next year.

So this could be something, if amendment 3 is adopted, it would later give you some opportunities to vote on it, so it's just an idea.

It could be, and I think it's sensible that we could have put it on the list this year. There is already a lot on the ballot this year and we are afraid that we will overcharge it. So let's take a look at it. The solution for electric cars could be a service discount that everyone pays. You could put that discount on the electricity bill and cover a part of the costs for road improvements that flow from the use of electric cars.

Is that possible with the registration of the car?

No.

I have no idea. I'm just thinking about it.

If you leave your car and you pay a compensation for the electricity and that money goes to the roads, then electric motorists pay more than their fair share.

Is that something that the employees could also look at?

Yes, may I say something about that? For people who drive in a petrol car, you would double the taxes. EHM, there is no way for an electricity company to just say, we are going to charge people who charge their car in the garage extra costs. I'm not trying to make it difficult, I'm just saying that they would pay more for electricity, so it would cover part of the costs. If they don't charge their car, they might charge less. If you use less electricity, what is the effect? You could say the same thing about the petrol tank, I drive less or I drive in a more economical car, I pay less petrol tank, but it does help a bit. It's not perfect. But if you leave your car in the garage, you use more electricity in any case. And if you pay through the electricity bill, that would cover the effect.

But what if there was a fixed amount in the registration of an electric car?

Then that would be possible. That would probably demand a law on the state level. I think it would be a bill. Well, that's a good discussion we can have. It could be, and the state has looked at it in a few sessions of the parliament. It has been worked on before, but it has never received much support. But 30 years ago they didn't have an impact on new cars that were registered in the state. And the judge didn't turn back with the words, that's not allowed. You can't let a new owner pay for the registration of his vehicle than someone who already lives here. My vague memory of 30 years ago is that that was the case. That would be logical. Yes, so I just don't see how that works.

I don't know enough about electric cars of the old generation, but they have to ask for a kind of permission. Because I know that they charge electric cars at Target and so on. Is there a way to ask for a separate compensation for that?

I think the tax service will say something about it, but I think that when you charge something, You may use your credit card to pay the owner, just like you would pay at a gas station. Oh.

The registration costs of $ 295, which you were talking about, were deducted because they created two separate categories of taxpayers. Okay.

So, by the judge or by the legislator?

By the judge.

By the judge.

Je zat in het parlement toen het werd aangenomen. Ik denk van niet. Nou ja, misschien was je er wel toen het werd afgeschaft.

Ja.

Dus dat was het. Het creëerde twee aparte categorieën belastingbetalers, maar je moest ook oppassen voor dubbele belasting.

Ms. Callen, is there something that electric car owners, sorry, I really don't know much about here, should do differently to get a sort of LAT tariff in public places, as far as you know?

No, we at the traffic safety department and motor vehicles do not register what type of electricity the car consumes. So a whole lot of legislation should be adopted for that. Okay.

But if we had a local service discount or tax that would be raised on electricity, that would cover part of the costs, because users of electric cars will consume more electricity. And a

I think of the tourists who come here and have to stop somewhere to charge. So that's what I think, instead of it only coming down to the inhabitants here, that everyone who drives through the area pays for it.

That's why I thought that the gas tax would be part of the gas station. The gas stations in the municipality would then, or if they have an electricity bill, yes, yes.

I think that if we look at the numbers that come in, this July next year hopefully will provide some lighting. And hopefully we can't raise the taxes next year and cover the costs, but amendment 3 looks quite discouraging, so... I'm not going to talk about that.

Okay. Now, Mr. Chairman, may I? Again, I don't want to make it difficult, but if you leave an electric car with solar energy, you don't have to pay taxes on it. That's right, exactly, and good for you, if you use solar energy, then I have given you all a solar panel to show that this is possible. Fortunately, no one has to pay you anything to charge your phone or whatever, but you don't get anything for charging your electric car with solar energy.

That's not much, I can't share that. In recent years, the legislative authority has not shown any need to increase the tariffs. So I don't see how they would be responsible for that.

They did need to, because they increased the tariffs for us, the provinces and local governments.

But not the tariffs that are directly related to them. And those tariffs are

Ja. Ja.

Goed. Als u geen andere vragen hebt, ga ik weer zitten. Dat hoeft.

Niet.

Ik wil daar niet staan.

Oké. Goed. Nou, we hebben veel te bespreken tijdens de volgende begrotingsworkshops. Ik denk dat de commissie tot nu toe echt fantastisch werk heeft geleverd. En we hebben nog één begrotingsvoorzitting, hopelijk verloopt die goed. En u, Jim, ik zie je. Yes, yes, Mr. Chairman, a few more questions before you vote. When do you want to return the taxes? Uh, that's right, but we'll look at what some states are doing. I vaguely remember that some states have a registration permit. We can give you the information in any case. I want to point out the, and I will probably say it wrong, tax on public utilities. I believe that that is the correct name. It is being introduced. Every city introduces that tax, but the province doesn't. So, you know, and I don't know if you can use it for the general funds. Some cities may already use it for road improvements or improvements to public transport. What was my third remark? Oh, and you and they were in favor of me. I have to tell you something else. That tax is absolutely correct, because I bought a car and paid the impact tax and got it back later. H.M. About 36 years ago, or whenever it was. So yes. Okay, there is a second motion. Any discussion? Allen for, say yes. Yes. Against? No. Uh, accepted.

Can you repeat that, Commissioner Goodson?

Commissioner Goodson, we did not hear you. My apologies, what? Can you repeat that motion?

Yes, Commissioner Goodson. I would like to ask the employees to come back with the data next week so that we can review it and maybe make a decision about the local petrol tax. Okay, Commissioner.

I voted for it and I vote again for it. Okay, thank you. So that's a vote of 4 to 1 with Commissioner Velpner who opposed it. Okay, next. Commissioner Boetson of District 2, do you have a report? Not at all, Mr. Commissioner Atkinson, District 3. No report. Commissioner 4, Mr. Veltner. I understand that today is the president's birthday. Oh, is that right? Yes, I think we all have to sing happy birthday. Oh, that would be great. Thank you. I have already been ashamed of this before. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

Congratulations, dear fans. Congratulations on your birthday.

Thank you, that's a beautiful sign. I appreciate it. It's amazing.

Full openness about my age. 71 today.

Wow, yes. 71. I am grateful that I can be here and I am grateful to all of you that you are here today. And I have no report. And I think that's all. The meeting is closed. Thank you very much. The opinions expressed by members of the public during an open interview do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the Council of County Commissioners of Brevard County, Florida, Space Coast Government Television or the program sponsor, and are exclusively those of the speaker. The Council of County Commissioners of Brevard County, Florida, Space Coast Government Television and the program sponsor hereby expressly reject all responsibility or appeal to difficult or meaningful statements by members of the public during such an interview. HM.