Historic Preservation Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

I call the 03/04/2026 meeting of the Historic Preservation Advisory Board to order at 05:33. Board Okay. Introductions. My name is Carrie Gregory, and I'm the co chair

of the board.

I'm Loretta Weiss. I'm a member.

Liz Martino, I'm a member.

Theresa Callah, I'm the council liaison, Michelle.

Danielle Valdez, I am the planning manager and the board liaison.

Excellent. Thank you

all for making the time tonight. Okay. So first on the docket is our approval of today's agenda. So I'm looking for a motion to approve today's agenda.

I'll so move. We have a second. Second. All those in favor, raise your hand and

say aye. Aye. All right. Today's agenda is approved. Any discussion?

Yeah. No.

Okay. Did note, Danielle, that that duplication is still occurring on when the public comments on items that are not otherwise included in the agenda. It's under A and under D.

Oh.

It should be only on D. Okay. That It's the auto population of Granicus. We'll have to change that with the county manager's office. It seems to just be a reoccurring.

Okay. So it should just be under Yeah. Thank you. Okay.

All right.

Well, we didn't make any changes, so no reapproval. All right. Review and approve of the meeting minutes. Making a motion to approve the meeting minutes of our last meeting on 02/04/2026.

Well, since there's not

a lot

there, I guess

let me just approve them.

You have a second.

I second it.

All right. All those in favor, aye or raise your hand. Aye. All right. The minutes of the 02/04/2026 meeting are approved. Any discussion on the minutes?

I'm going to bring up a point that is probably reiterative and possibly unwelcome. But it's just I was so looking forward to catching up. And I forgot that we don't keep the notes in the minutes anymore. They're recorded. They're recorded. And that's what I was wondering. So I should have gone to meeting. I listened to the meeting. I listened to the meeting. Exactly. Okay. And those are I can find those easily on our historical site. I think I've seen them before. My bad. I It's Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry. I was like, wait a minute. I don't know what happened.

Any other discussion on the minutes? Okay. No changes or no re approval required. Public comment. Do we have anybody online?

There is no one on. Okay.

Well, then we'll get right down to business. So our single item on today's agenda is historic preservation month participation plan. If I remember correctly, we kind of spitballed some ideas last time about what we could do.

Was it May?

It is May. Okay. And I guess because of our small your last meeting is next meeting. Is that

correct? Well, I would like to clarify. I

believe it was And your last meeting?

I don't think there's been one set.

But as soon as they

find another person, I think.

Okay. All right.

Then I look to you both to help me with ideas and come up with a plan, even if you may not be all

right. But do we know? I mean, I guess I can just

ask We don't know. The department report, she'll cover the vacancy filling efforts.

So the plan.

Yeah. So I think

so please.

So it's May. It's historic preservation month. May 9 is the arts and crafts festival fair that's around the Romero Cabin Correct. Lodge. Last year, we did have a table that we shared there with Bandelier, Manhattan Project National Historic Park, and the History Museum. I was not there, but I I just heard that it went pretty well. What did did you feel like it was Okay?

Would you recommend doing it again? Was it a good way to get out our message and do some outreach?

Yeah. Maybe more centrally located.

I mean,

the fair is where the fair is. And that table's so people would come over to look at the cabin.

And then, Okay.

But you didn't get much there's not much traffic. Have to want to go there. Okay. So my one It wasn't on the main. No. It wasn't one of the tables

that you would meander by.

Okay. You know? Like, if you were interested in the Romero Cabin, you would walk over there. But most of those people took the tour of the Romero Cabin.

Okay.

And so we certainly had conversations, but they were in the single digits as opposed to the double digits. When I was there, I was there half Was a

it the historical society that organized that table last Yes.

So last year, Todd is the one who pulled out a table. I office is right there.

I just pulled out it. Okay. Well, I mean, if someone talks to Todd

and we're going to do it

again, you might just run by him the possibility of being a little more centrally located. Just a little bit more towards where the art is. Either that or

we need

a man in a balloon outfit to get people to go over there, because nobody went over there.

It is an art fair. I

can chat with Brandi a little bit and just see how she feels about having us or have something artsy near our table. For example, I have a large, this wide, that tall

loom. Oh, wow. We

It's could just set the loom a community loom. It's been set up at peak before.

It

could just be beside the table. It's not what we're talking about, really. But it might Attention grabber.

It is art. And as you recall last year, we had a white table. It's history. And we didn't have the brochure.

We didn't

have the brochure So it wasn't all that enticing to walk over there. It was a long table with me and Todd standing there.

Well, I can reach out to Todd. And I can reach out to Jonathan Creel or National see if they're going to do something collaborative again.

Or do they have anything that would draw people over? So sometimes the national park has had displays or

things that draw people. Well, tour brought people. So most of the people we talked to were there for the tour. And so we talked to them before or after the tour. In itself So So the historical site

was giving tours of the Romero Cabin. And you were at their table.

Georgia was given tours. And so we would get kind of a few And people that

for Manhattan Project, was it the National Park people or the Lab People?

Do you

know the different

I didn't know. I do. And I They weren't either.

I believe it was the National

Park.

They weren't there when I was there. Or if

they were, they were Friends, I think.

Okay. Gotcha. Is that Georgia? No. Okay. So I

wondered over to look at the fencing around the And it was it's probably about at least 80% complete.

That's Oh, I haven't seen it.

Wondering if it's going to be done by then, and or if you want to do some kind of a ribbon cutting or something that might attract some people over the week. Yeah.

Yeah. Looks great.

Is it pretty?

Yeah. I think it looks really good. A very good advisement.

Oh, that's great. Does.

Oh, I can't wait to see it.

Something that could be worked out maybe with community services or something like that. It was just a thought. It's in that immediate area. We could put up a big sign saying

Come see the

Rose Garden Fence Grand Opening.

Or I

don't know, Fenced Rose Garden Grand Opening.

The person who did a lot of the work for that was the roses. Yes.

You have to look The gardening thugs? Yeah.

I have to look back in the minutes.

Well, it's going to

be hard because

works nice to do, even if it's not during the arts and crafts fair sometime in May.

Yeah. I like that idea very much. But

in general, the idea is great to share a table, share a discussion, interact with people.

There was something else, and I cannot get my internet to work.

I had the Arts and Crafts Fair. We talked about doing another proclamation. I don't know how well that went over.

The council likes to

do them, like I'm not

We do them all the time. We don't mind.

I So think a

lot of the counselors like doing the follow-up.

And do we have the new brochure to I don't know. The new brochure?

The brochure

that we revised last year but too late to use for the historic preservation.

Yeah, that's the same one you guys have now, The one that

We have them.

Patrick has them.

I don't have them. Only have, like, this many. I don't have a lot.

Are they new? They're the new

Patrick may have them.

Who has the box?

I think Patrick has box. Something tangible. Yes. You're interacting. You're giving something. It's better.

The other thing is that

it kind of comes

under my report. But I can't pull up what I need. But maybe you will remember, Danielle. So we met with people doing the

Oh, yes. Survey. They

mentioned wanting to possibly have a lecture in May. I hooked them up with Todd and

Yeah, they've been talking to Todd and Kristen.

J. Robert Oppenheimer Committee and some other people.

Is this the homes letters?

No. Is the drug master plan.

Oh, contractor.

But my feeling they wanted to do it in May. My feeling is, I don't think it's going to happen in May because I don't see any movement on that. But it might happen eventually. Even if it doesn't occur during historic preservation month, I think it would be a useful thing. The idea is that they wanted to bring in an expert who would talk about historic preservation for the community.

And then at the same time have some tables and some handouts or posters, something explaining what they're doing, explaining what is going on. I think that's really valuable in Los Alamos because people want to know what's going on. So I thought it was a great idea.

I don't know if it'll happen in May.

Yeah, had the same feeling because I talked to It's a great idea.

It's a great idea.

Okay. So that's on the list too.

Possibly, with a question mark.

Yes. And that's the historic

master plan. Contractor. Contractor. Yeah.

So it'd be partnering with them in a sense. We're supporting them at this public meeting they want to have. Yeah. We also talked about a farmer's market.

That would be much like the arts and beer

arts and crafts.

And so it's my understanding that council has goes to one a month, the farmer's market?

I don't know when they start up. They start

in May. They start in May? Yes.

I don't have them on my calendar. I will mention that the first council meeting is May 5. Oh, I do have them. So there's one on April 21. I mean, May 21, sorry.

Okay.

Farmers market. May 21? Yeah. There may be one so we only do the booth once a month. That's perfect. And I'm scheduled for that one. That's That's on

a Friday? You're scheduled Friday?

It's a Thursday. Thursday.

May? Twenty first. May 1.

Well, that's during his

Oh, it's perfect. Exactly. Yeah. I would like to join you there.

Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah.

It's kind of the same

So you do nine to eleven

normally. Okay.

Something tangible. We're actually going to do eleven. There was some discussion of promoting the homesteading signage. Don't know how to see that. I don't see what that is. It was just an idea. I'm not sure how to flesh it out.

You know, maybe touching base with Leslie.

But she came or they did a

She came and did a presentation and talked to us about the new signs. She's pretty creative. She may have an idea.

But the slides are going forward. I just want to train that through email.

If she thinks they're ready in May and she wants to use that as an opportunity, that could even be part of the process.

Yeah, we can put whatever we want in it.

If she's ready, she could be part of the arts and crafts fair.

Do you want to reach out to her?

I'll reach out to Leslie.

Okay. For both. And just Do you have

a copy of last year's proclamation?

Oh, yes.

Yeah. It's a lot easier just to tweak it.

Yeah. Yes.

Yeah, I think I did most of the editing, and then I was at the meeting.

It might be good to also reach out to Todd

Oh, yes.

About the historic proclamation. I mean, it would be fun if

we could do something fun,

like could they have someone dressed in each era or something like that at the proclamation would be kind of cool? I know they have in the archives not in the main collection, but in the education collection, things like a ranch school garb. It's not actual ranch school costume made. But their archive people right now are pretty creative, too. So maybe if we just reach out and say, hey, can the archives think about what if there's something or maybe bring a big picture of some gets a Historic thing.

Whole white table that nobody thought to come over to see if you have somebody in garb.

Yeah. And they may have more things to see because of the Oppenheimer house renovation. Okay.

Todd Yeah. Himself didn't have any sort of goodies or visuals.

If he reaches out to his staff this year, though, they have new people on their staff.

They could do something. Think they've got some good ideas.

I will reach out to Todd, unless you wanted to, Liz

No, you can.

About a table at the Spring Arts and Crafts Fair, see if he's interested in doing that and see if he'd like to participate in the proclamation.

Well, and I mean, up to you. It seems like the farmer's market table and the arts and crafts table are literally identical. Oh, really? Well, no. I mean, you should do both. Because whatever you gather up and do for one, you can just deploy for the next one. That's what I'm saying.

Two for one. That's on my list. Lots of things on

the list. Or what you are saying about having something at the table. Another thing to ask Todd is, do they have things in the archive, educational material, that we could borrow for the table, like an old map or a picture of some of our historic places, sites?

Anything besides nothing. Yes.

You saying anything is better than nothing? I just

had to talk to you because I didn't have anything to point to. Good on you for pulling that off. Okay. I like where we're going. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. So map I like maps. Love I maps.

I think it's fun to have an old map and have people find where your house is on this map. Like, where would it be? Because some of the roads aren't even there. Or sometimes they can find their house on there if their house was built. I think old maps are really fun. Oh, me too. We can certainly make a copy of one

of them.

Yeah. Okay.

And then I had a note here that said Leslie photo. And I have no idea what that means. Photo. Maybe that was the photo a week in the paper. Me add that to Leslie about that. Okay.

Photo for paper.

Because we had kind of talked about a scavenger hunt, and that sounded like a lot of energy Yeah. That I didn't have time for. But then we said, well, maybe we just promote some goal Places. Place.

Or something. One in the paper. Okay. So photo for paper. And then

Just in May. Homestead tour.

Just in May. Yeah. Yes. And that photo for the paper could go right with the homestead tour. Like, she could do those together if

she wanted to kind of

Agreed. I

think we got good ideas.

Yeah. And I think reasonable. The reason for our schedules and for the amount of people we have. So just to go through real quickly and recap, we're looking at doing another table at the Spring Arts and Crafts Fair. I'm going to reach out to Todd, talk to him about if

they're going to

have a table, if we can participate, if we can pull out things from the archives because we need a draw centrally located. And then we need consider the rose garden fencing. I think it might be better when it's done. So maybe find me out from Danielle when they plan to put the gates in and finish. Can't wait to see.

It looks so good. Really like it. So pleased.

It's not like it doesn't, like, stand out. No. But if you look at it, it looks nice.

Yeah. And

it's and it looks a lot

It's called enough. Chicken wire.

And I'll tell you,

oh my god, all that chicken wire was crazy.

Who knows to the garden club?

They did. Did all the research.

He came

to us with products and said, which of these two would you like?

And he picked one.

Oh, Okay. Great.

So they did all the heavy lifting on that one. I wasn't sure how that transpired. They deserve some credit

for that.

They do. So if they were there to be honored at a perseverance opening, I love that idea. That's fabulous.

So what do I check-in with the work? Who's doing the actual work?

I would just ask Corey to find out who's been doing it. I think it's probably being done by staff. But who's CSD?

In the meantime,

I'll

reach out to the woman who gave us presentation. And just let her know that we'd like to do this and kind of plant the seed with her. And then she has some ideas. Anyway, that's a very good idea. Okay. And then back to the table. Get the brochures from Patrick. Keep an eye on the contractor schedule. And whether they do it in May or not, be a part of their meeting

at Fuller Lodge when they inform the public about what they're doing.

Booth at the Farmers Market with council on May 21. I'm on that. Liz is gonna call Leslie about the homesteading signs. It may be

a little bit weak. I'm gonna

revisit the proclamation and talk talk to Todd and see if they want to participate.

Does Leslie, by any chance, have any old pictures of the high school? Because graduation is usually a thing. It's interesting to put something in the paper, an archived photo of the original school or something.

I will talk about it here because you brought it up. But I have heard that the high school is going to put in a big new case. And they are working with the Historical Society for some historical photos and information about Duane Smith. And that all is going to be happening.

Not at the end of the year?

No, I don't.

Not before the end of the Okay.

So it

might be something later.

So you might be pulling pictures and stuff.

Yeah. That's a great idea.

Even in the fall, whenever they install that

Yeah. Some kind of ribbon cutting or something. Yeah.

But it could be one of the photos per week since it's Yes.

Exactly. Yeah. That's what she was suggesting because of the graduation.

Draw a little bit more interest in

the Yeah.

That's a great idea. All right. That is all that I had on this topic. I think the next steps I've got some assignments here. I'll probably put together a one pager just so I can track everything.

Rewrite notes. And

Danielle, I'd like to put this as a topic on our next meeting agenda, please. What is that topic? Historic preservation month participation plan.

So reporting back from these

Yes.

I'll come with something a little more formalized than my notebook. And we can check back in on how all of the plans are going and figure out what efforts we need. Because next month will be the month before, and we'll need to finalize.

I'll reach out to Leslie right away.

Yeah, me too.

And Todd Okay. Send whatever I hear.

Yeah. If you and I can do a little bit of back work so by the time we get to the April meeting, we've got a tentative plan, that would be fabulous. Fabulous. Is there anything on this that you wanted to do?

Or We

accept volunteers. Yeah.

Yeah. No. I mean, when the time comes in May Okay. Fabulous. I'll do I'll do what it

is. Okay. Assumed. Yeah.

Oh, lovely.

Okay. All right. Then we have no Nothing to approve. So we're going to move on to commission director and communications department report, Danielle.

I have nothing to report. No updates. Can you give

us a status update on the vacancy?

Oh, certainly. The vacancies, we have one vacancy. We have three terming at the April. You, Loretta, and member of Three that are here. Yeah.

All three of Well, we're terming. You're terming.

Must have heard your name.

We've been talking about you.

Oh, really?

Oh, sorry. Well, hello. I'll get back. We're supposed to call you. Oh, really? We're up

interviews for

hopefully next week. I'm still waiting on schedules. So we have three interviews to set up, including yours and two others. And then those three will be taking the three new terms. Okay. So we'll still have one vacancy because that vacancy is short term. So we would either lose someone in September and they would need to reapply. So we're trying to work out how we fill Patrick Morgan's vacancy for a few months. It's dependent on my legal guidance. Okay.

So the three of us are Terming and Patrick Cruz. It's until September. September. Okay. All right. Just trying

to get that. So then that would be

next meeting is the April.

Yes. So next meeting is April 1. It's your last meeting. And then the next meeting will be made and meeting new members. Okay.

Is there any new information from the visit that the master contractor

They're doing their discovery research, and they're doing their research. So I meet with them biweekly, but there's nothing to report.

I'd like to thank you for putting them in contact with us. It was a really good conversation. Good. I'm glad you're Yeah, I really did. I enjoyed talking to him and getting his ideas and perspectives. And I've learned a lot about what they are doing. So thank you so much for

talking with them. Todd, thank you so much for touring.

Absolutely. Problem. Glad you reached out

to Kristen.

We're going

to go ahead and get through this section, Todd, and then I will circle back. If there was anything Oh, no. You're just attending.

I'm just attending. I'm absolutely just Okay. Seeing what's going on.

Okay. I do have it on my list to call you. So perhaps after this meeting, we can just stay and chat a little bit.

I do. I have actually another thing. Have a big big quarter ten.

Okay. Then I'll call you and look.

That'd be great.

Okay. Awesome.

Chair's report. I have nothing to report. We had well, guess I do have some report, but I haven't done anything. We established two potential or two subcommittees in the work plan. That was last meeting. I have not had a chance, and we haven't had an opportunity to figure out who's going to be on what committee. And with the current state of our vacancies, that's a little challenging. So I will try to make some progress on my own, on at least the committee to address the CLG and the need for cultural resources contractors so that when we do get new members, I might have a better plan as to what the tasks are. I haven't even figured that out yet. So that Can is I ask Yes, please.

Do you want those to be subcommittees, or are you

thinking working groups? Subcommittees have to I don't know the difference, actually.

Yeah. So the subcommittees have to have agenda. It has to be the same formality as this group. Working group is something that you can just assign, you as the chair. And typically, you have a sub quorum of members on that working group. And members of either staff or the public or something to focus on a specific issue. And they then will do the research and whatever, all the legwork, and bring back a recommendation to the full board. So

we I see now that our response says working groups.

Yeah, Okay.

And that's the homesteaders.

Yes, when we get to subcommittee reports, we don't ever have any. Okay.

Yeah, you could change that to working groups.

I like that idea.

So one of the working groups is the CLG proposal, etcetera. And what's the other working group that you

We identified a community outreach working group.

Oh, nice. Yeah. Okay. Good. The

reason we wanted to make it a working group is so that they can report.

Every month. Yeah. That makes sense.

It doesn't get

lost. Yeah. Right? So hopefully, the new

board members will be interested in participating in those things. Right. Thank Thank you for the information. Council liaisons report. There she's up.

So a few things. Let's see. I think you may already know that the work plans were approved at last night's council meeting. Excellent. The working group that was put together by the council to review the work plans is recommending that we have the liaison kind of coordinate review, or just put on the agenda a review on a periodic basis, like quarterly.

I don't think that message has gotten out, but that came up at the meeting last night. It's just some folks don't ever go back and look at their work plans after they submit them. So it's just a way to go back and look at those and keep them up to date. Also, that working group is planning to tweak the template. I don't know if they got feedback from you all or not.

But they must have gotten some feedback on the template for the work plans. And they're going to do some tweaking of that either this summer or fall. We did have a joint meeting with the Los Alamos Public School Board. It was mostly to talk about North Mesa development and what they want to do up there. We're basically in a wait and see wait to hear from them what they decide.

We also have a charter working group out of the council to look at possible charter changes. So this came out of the feedback we got from the boards and commissions on mostly term limits, but it was also the makeups of the boards as well. There was some discussion last fall at one of the luncheons. And generally speaking, what folks what the boards that responded said was, we'd like to be able to have to let people serve a third term with discretion of counsel. That was generally what most folks said they would like.

Planning and zoning actually said we'd be open to extending the length of our terms, even though they're already three years. It takes a while for them to really understand what's going on in planning and zoning. So we met today with Alvin to discuss what changes we might want to make and how we would go about it. And then we're supposed to present to the full council on April 7. So we're not sure where we're going go with term limits.

There are a couple options that we might look at. So that'll be open to discussion on April 7. And then it has to go it has to do a resolution, and it has to go for a vote. So it'll have to be on the ballot this fall if we really want

to Oh, make these a vote. A vote vote.

Charter changes. That's why we're kind of going, do we really want to make this change or

do want

And I think the one that certainly we want to pursue is the term limits. Right now it says you're limited to two terms. Board of Public Utilities is addressed separately, but everybody else is limited to two terms. Two consecutive. Yeah. Two consecutive. And then you have to lay off for it doesn't really get into this detail, but then I think you have to be off for a year before you come back. So those are I mean, there wasn't a whole lot of other stuff. But I'll answer any questions that you all might have. If there's anything that you've heard of come up.

Sure. Appreciate the update. Yep. Subcommittee reports that we touched on that. We don't have any official subcommittees. So we'll discuss the working groups, again, kind of waiting for new membership. Is there anyone who participated in another board or commission meeting?

I thought that's a subcommittee. Or that's called liaison.

She's our council liaison.

But She's our department. Yeah. We had the liaisons

to Other boards. Yes. Which I am.

Right. But

missed the last two because I was out of the city. Art. The art, yeah, which, you know, they do a lot of things.

Yes.

I've been keeping up with it.

Yeah.

But the thing that had the most impact on us was the homesteaders. Right. That was a working group of the eight people. Right. And I think you guys are up to date on that. Yeah.

They attended our last meeting and talked about their ideas. And I think we landed that we would collaborate when they decided on the art. Leslie's putting together they're reducing the number of signs. So she's taking all the text and trying to reduce it to the number of signs that they want.

But they're still having them in different places?

Only four. Only four. Yeah. I think they started with 17 or 14, and now they're down to four.

Oh, that's a big change. Yeah. So They just want them to do that? Or

didn't feel like the driving tour was very popular. Those driving tour brochures, Leslie said the number she goes through is

really small.

So Less than 50. And she goes through thousands of the other ones. No. Was it garnering the interest?

That's a data point I didn't know,

though. Yeah.

That's important. Yeah.

Okay.

But still, then put their effort into the four that

Yeah. So I think Leslie as the county staff is going to work closely with the Arts and Public Places Board and the Historic Preservation Advisory Board when she starts thinking about the final text, the final photos, and the final locations.

And one of the considerations let me say consideration is to have a piece of artwork at each

Yeah. That's the part that I think the APP is still interested in.

I think that that will be part of the discussion.

Do you think they'll put out a little call? I mean, they'll put out a call for either a statue or some sort of something in keeping with the homesteader message. Okay, cool. But yeah, I think having members go to other board meetings is very useful. I found that to be really useful to me. And hopefully, when I was there, the reports back are useful. When we get the new board sitting, I would

And the other one, I think, that was useful, I can't remember. But it was whoever does the trails and stuff. Is it Parks and Rec?

Parks and Rec.

I went to a couple of those.

Yeah, if you can I think it's good for the, especially for a new board member, going to another board was really useful for me? Accelerates the learning process. You know what I mean? Because you're seeing another board works and relax and publishes things. So I encourage that. All

right. We're on to our next meeting, future agenda. So our next meeting is 04/01/2026. And are there any items that the board would like to see on the agenda? Currently, we only have the historic preservation month participation plan, which is a lot because it is the month before. And so is there any other topics that

have We need an update on the Rose Garden when they're finishing. Bob, do you know when they're finishing?

Not today.

Update on that.

I feel like that can be

an email update. So I'll just send that as an email update once That I have the

would be lovely.

Planned and not waiting until April 1 to have the information.

Right. Yes. I would appreciate that very much.

And an update on the view people? Yes.

That comes under her

department report. Do need us to help everybody? No. It's the It's only you guys.

But it's Patrick as the chair

and her as the department and counseling co pays.

Trying to keep it consistent, especially if you have multiple. Yes.

Any other items for the agenda?

A lot for the preservation.

We do. But if you do think of anything, feel free to reach out to Danielle before the agenda gets developed, and she'll add that on. So Okay. I need to put

you in the meeting. You have a second? Yes. I need a second. Okay. Alright. All those in favor. Meeting is adjourned. Oh, that was So