Board of Adjustment - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, August 19, 2026

The Board of Adjustment approved several variances, including a 45-foot freeway sign, an electronic changeable copy sign, a 106-foot telecommunication tower, and a large detached garage. Two cases were continued for further review, and one special exception for a front yard carport was denied.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Adjustment
Meeting Type
Board Of Adjustment
Location
Fort Worth, TX
Meeting Date
August 19, 2026

Transcript

1292 sections

2:09 – 2:25Speaker 29

Good morning. Notice of this meeting has been posted online for at least 72 hours. Staff present today are Denisha London, Emily Reyes, Stacey Jones, Gianna Bridges, Trey Qualls, and Maribel Pena. Chair, will you please call this meeting to order?

2:28 – 6:24Speaker 18

Yes, good morning. This is Whit Wollman, and this meeting of the Board of Adjustment will now come to order. It is the 19th of August, 2026, and I welcome everyone to the Board of Adjustment. This board is a citizen board appointed by the City Council. By state law, a minimum of nine members or alternate members must be present to provide a quorum in order to conduct business. Today we have a quorum with all 11 members present. Today's meeting agenda can be found online at www.fortworthtexas.gov. Speaker registration forms for cases on today's agenda should have been turned in prior to the start of this session. Today's public hearing is being documented by cable television and video conference recording, which will be available on the city's website. To facilitate an orderly meeting, I'm asking everyone in the council chamber to turn off the audible alarms on your electronic devices at this time so we will not be distracted during our meeting. Each case will be called in the sequence listed on the agenda unless otherwise directed by me, the chair. The Board of Adjustment requests that the following rules of procedure be respected. During case introduction, each case will be introduced by the City of Fort Worth Development Services Department. After presenting the facts of the case, the Board of Adjustment members will have the opportunity to question city staff about the case and any applicable laws or regulations that might apply. This portion of the discussion is exclusively between city staff and the board members. During case presentation, as your case is being called, we ask that you move to the front row of the chambers. You will have seven minutes to present the facts of your case and why you believe your application meets the criteria for approval. If more than one person is presenting the case, it is necessary to divide the total seven minutes among all parties so you do not exceed the allotted time. After the applicant has presented their case, I will call for any opposition to come forward. This is their opportunity to express why they believe the variance or special exception should not be approved. The opposition is also allotted a total of seven minutes of time to be shared among all speakers. If opposition is presented to the variance or special exception, the applicant will have an additional three minutes of rebuttal time. The chair may allow a few more seconds in each presentation to ensure a speaker's final point can be made. In 2019, there was a rule change regarding translation cases. When speakers require the services of a translator, all speaker times during those cases will be doubled. After the parties have presented their positions, the board members will then have the opportunity to ask questions of the applicant and any opposition. During this time, all speakers must remember that all dialogue be directed to the Board of Adjustment only. There is no time limit during this period. After the board members have received answers to their questions, I will close the public portion of the hearing. Board members can discuss the case among themselves and city staff to determine whether or not the application meets or does not meet the criteria for approval. After this discussion, I will ask for a motion to approve, deny, or continue the case. City staff will call for a voice vote from each member. If an application is denied, an applicant will have 10 days in which to appeal to a court of appropriate jurisdiction. For more information on this and additional information on any case on today's agenda, you may contact the Board of Adjustment at 817-392-8026 after this meeting. If necessary, a closed executive session may be held with respect to the posted agenda items to enable the Board of Adjustment to receive advice from legal staff. The first order of business is the approval of the minutes from the July 2026 meeting, and we are open for a motion to approve.

6:27Speaker 7

Move approval.

6:29 – 6:40Speaker 18

Thank you, Mr. Riley. Do we have a second? Second. Mr. Garza? Oh, Mr. Whitten. You both point at each other. All right, Mr. Whitten takes it. Second. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

6:41Speaker 29

Yes. Board Member Jim Whitten.

6:43Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza.

6:45Speaker 29

Board Member Michael Johnston.

6:47Speaker 29

Board Member Bob Riley.

6:49Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King. Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman.

6:53Speaker 29

Board Member Jana Herrera. Yes. Board Member Kay Duffy. Yes. Board Member Madison Gutierrez. Yes. Board Member Eric Ortega.

7:03Speaker 29

Board Member Juan Manuel Acosta. Yes. The motion passes.

7:08 – 7:25Speaker 18

Can y'all make sure that this seat over here has his mic turned on, activated? We wanna make sure he can get his vote as well. Test, yup, yes, thank you. Thanks. Okay, those minutes have been approved, correct?

7:26Speaker 18

Okay, let's move on to the next case on the agenda. I think it was BAR26-072.

7:33 – 7:47Speaker 29

Mr. Chair, may I ask if the applicants of this case is present? Jesus and Teresa Ramirez? Mr. Chair, can we move this case to number four?

7:48Speaker 18

Yes, that's great. Let's move to the next agenda item. Continued case BAR26-060.

7:55Speaker 29

Mr. Chair, staff would like to request a continuance for this case.

7:58Speaker 18

Okay, do we need to make a, do we have a roll call vote on that as well?

8:03Speaker 18

So let's, it sounds like we need administratively to continue this case. Can we have a motion and a second to move this case, to continue this case, excuse me?

8:11Speaker 12

I make a motion to move case BAR 26-72 to... Next month's meeting. Next month's meeting. I think it's... Second.

8:21Speaker 29

I just want to be clear. It's BAR-26-060.

8:26Speaker 12

I heard it, yes.

8:28Speaker 29

I'd like to make a motion to move it to next month, please.

8:30Speaker 18

Thank you. Second. Ms. Duffy, second, all right. Motion by Ms. Herrera, second by Ms. Duffy. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

8:37Speaker 29

Board Member Jim Whitten?

8:39Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza? Yes, for Board Member Sergio Garza. Board Member Michael Johnston.

8:45Speaker 29

Board Member Bob Riley.

8:47Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King.

8:49Speaker 29

Board Member Whit Wollman.

8:51Speaker 29

Board Member Jana Herrera. Yes. Board Member Kay Duffy. Yes. Board Member Madison Gutierrez.

8:59Speaker 29

Board Member Eric Ortega.

9:00Speaker 29

Board Member Juan Manuel Acosta.

9:03Speaker 29

The motion passes.

9:05Speaker 18

Okay, great. Let's move to, looks like our new case, moving on to new cases, BAC-26-021. Is that correct?

9:16Speaker 18

Staff, we're ready when you are.

9:17Speaker 29

Uh-oh, looks like we're having, just moving on to the next one.

9:24Speaker 18

Thanks, Ms. Reyes.

9:26 – 11:01Speaker 27

The first item on the agenda is BAC-26-021, located at 1081 and 1021 Oak Grove. The property owner is QT South LLC, with the applicant being Ben Williams. The zoning district is G Intensive Commercial. The applicant is requesting a variance to the requirement that a freeway sign may not exceed the maximum height of 25 feet, and the applicant is requesting the sign to be 45 feet. The subject property is a 14,538-acre corner lot located on the northwestern corner of South Freeway and Oak Grove Road. The subject property has a 2% overall slope from the western property line to the eastern property line, and the property does contain mature trees and is not located within a floodplain. In February of this year there was Board of Adjustments approval to allow ECC. The applicant is coming with the same freeway sign, but this time it's for the height. There is a sign permit currently awaiting client reply, which is pending the outcome of this case. The applicant is requesting a variance to the requirement that a freeway sign may not exceed the maximum height of 25 feet. The proposed freeway sign is located 86 feet from the southern property line, located adjacent to the southeast loop 820 frontage road, and the proposed freeway sign will be 45 feet in height, and the proposal is required to meet all other development regulations. These are the regulations that pertain to this case, and these are the board's actions, and this concludes staff's presentation, and I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

11:01Speaker 18

Thank you, it looks like Miss Duffy has a question.

11:03Speaker 11

Can you just back up to the picture two slides ago? Yeah, so which one is the service road, the bottom one or the one to the?

11:11 – 11:39Speaker 27

Right here. Give me one second. So right down here.

11:44Speaker 11

That's south of 20 or north. No, it must be north.

11:53 – 12:05Speaker 29

Emily, I think the service road is to the right of the sign. And then the highway is to the right of the service road. Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. The road to the south is Oak Grove Road.

12:11Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff?

12:13Speaker 5

I have a question.

12:14Speaker 18

Yeah, please.

12:15Speaker 5

Correct me if I'm wrong, but could this have been handled under an administrative approval?

12:22Speaker 18

That's a good question for staff.

12:24Speaker 29

No, this one, it exceeds the allowable for administrative approval.

12:32Speaker 29

It's one foot, the director can approve a one foot. Alternative. Okay.

12:45Speaker 12

I have a question.

12:46Speaker 18

Please go ahead.

12:47Speaker 12

Ms. Reyes, are there any other signs that are at the height that this applicant is requesting in that area?

12:54Speaker 27

We don't know.

12:57Speaker 12

Is this a newer area or is this an already developed area?

13:02Speaker 27

When I did the site visit, it was pretty developed out there. I didn't see any close other gas stations out there.

13:10Speaker 12

Okay, thank you.

13:11 – 13:43Speaker 28

You're welcome. Commissioners, this is Maribel. So yes, the zoning ordinance does allow an administrative approval of up to 50 feet. However, it depends on the location of the sign. What the ordinance says is if the sign is above a traveling, then no, we cannot administratively approve. If the proposed sign is below the traveling thing is, excuse me, we can do an administrative approval. Thank you, Mayor Bell.

13:44Speaker 11

Say it again.

13:50 – 14:18Speaker 28

So sometimes the freeway, the service road, let's say the service road, a lot of these businesses, their access point is through the service road. So if that service road is below the freeway, then yes, they would need additional height to be seen. But if that service road is at the same level or above the freeway, then no, we would not administratively approve additional height.

14:21Speaker 12

So this service road is below the freeway?

14:26Speaker 28

It would have to be adjacent or above the freeway.

14:31Speaker 12

Okay, thank you.

14:36Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff?

14:42Speaker 7

Maybe this is more of the applicant. How far is the travel lanes? below the elevation of the proposed sign.

14:51Speaker 27

You would have to ask the applicant.

14:53Speaker 7

Okay, thank you.

14:57 – 15:11Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff? Okay, thank you, Ms. Reyes. Is the applicant here? Yes, sir. Please come forward, state your name, address, and the facts about your case, and you have seven minutes.

15:13 – 20:12Speaker 9

Good morning. Good morning. Corey Vaughn, 8700 Freeport Parkway, Irving, Texas 75063. We're here today to ask for variance for an additional 10 feet and staff was correct. The limit is 25 feet max height due to the grade, but you are allowed one foot for in height for every one foot of setback up to 35 feet if you're not below grade of the adjacent highway or travel lane. And so technically, the sign sets back 20 feet. We would be allowed up to 35 feet. And so what we do is called a sign ride to place our high-rise signage for a highway. And great question on how far back is the exits, and I'll get to that. This is a particular case for this site is the curvature of the way I-20 sits. So as you come off the exit, you're above our site at approximately 15 to 20 feet coming down the ramp. And then as you come down the ramp on that 14 acre property, now you're going back up the site. And so if you, thank you. If you look at the curvature this way, the way the site sits, this is a travel center as well. So you have trucks and you want to get the trucks before the Gore point. So if you see on the westbound, the Gore point of the exit is approximately a half a mile or 2,520 feet from the QT site. And as you are approaching the exit, you're essentially sitting on top of the hill and you can't really see the site. And we want our customers to be able to see, especially 18 wheelers or truckers that have enough visibility and time to make a safe, Maneuver to get over to the exit which requires approximately we like six to seven seconds a visibility of the sign before they actually make a maneuver to say hey I can get off and at this site particularly if you missed that exit at 438 We are in the convenience business. They're typically not going to turn around and come back You have to go through a lot to come back to that site to get to get off and so the constraint or the The difficulty with this site is where the placement of that sign is so what we did was a sign ride which is we put a crane on site and we put it in multiple areas and we raise it at different heights and we ride back and forth on the highway to see where we can see it at at seven traveling at 70 miles an hour is what the the traffic is and at 25 feet you can barely see the top of the button and when you're approaching the exit, hitting westbound. Eastbound side is okay. It's a third of a mile from the exit. But the westbound side, when you're coming off, it doesn't have visibility to the pricer. And because of those constraints, we moved the sign several different places. At first, we wanted 65 feet at the rear of the property because it has a 2% slope and it drops off about 20 feet at the rear. And so we decided that... didn't match anything else in the area. So the 45 feet at the front, if we go to the next slide. OK, this gives you a good idea of this is the eastbound headed eastbound. The red bubble is where the actual crane is that we took a picture of. And I apologize. We were moving when we took this picture right in the vehicle. And the sign next to it is for the retail or the pawn shop that's slightly across the street. And the position of the sign is in the manner where it doesn't block their sign or it doesn't cover their sign. And it's in around the same height as their sign. And it's visible before you get to the exit. Okay, this is where it sits on the site or that was the old position of the 65 foot sign at the back. And so instead of making it, trying to ask for 65 feet, we lowered it to 45 feet. because you can see it. Next slide. There we go. This is what we lowered the sign to. We have an eight foot brick base on the bottom. Next slide, please. Old position. Next slide, please. This is the new position of this slide with a 25 foot setback from the right of way. Next slide, please.

20:15Speaker 16

I think I missed one.

20:16 – 20:57Speaker 9

Can you go back like three, four? One more. One more. It's the one with the picture of the exit. Go back one more. One more. One more. Right here. So this is the westbound side. And you see the billboard over on the side. And on the east side, I believe that is. Excuse me, the south side of the site. You see the exit as you're approaching and coming off. The bubble, that's where you can see that sign before with six to eight seconds before you have to get off at the goal point. At this time, thank you for your time, and at this time I'll answer any questions that you have.

20:58Speaker 18

Sure, and you still have a minute and a half if you want to add anything else.

21:04Speaker 9

I'm available for questions.

21:06 – 21:31Speaker 18

Okay, yeah, we'll get to the questions in a second. No more, you're good right now? Okay. Is there anyone else here to speak in support? Got about another minute and a half. Anyone here to speak in opposition? Okay, having seen none, I'm gonna move to board questions for the applicant. Yes, sir, Mr. Garza.

21:31Speaker 8

I just wanna thank you.

21:33Speaker 18

A lot of times- If you would, sir, please come back up. You can speak in the mic, thank you.

21:37 – 21:54Speaker 8

You know, they come at us with elevation and access. And with your photographs, explain it all real clearly for us to understand your intent and your effort. And I want to thank you for that. I have no other questions.

21:54Speaker 18

Thank you. I have one quick question. Mr. Riley, do you have one?

21:58 – 22:14Speaker 18

I was going to ask. It looks like from this picture, the westbound exit is what you're really shooting for in terms of this. You're trying to exit 438 to get to this. This is the actual image, right, of what you're trying to reach? Right. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Riley?

22:15 – 22:29Speaker 7

Previously, I'd asked the question, how much higher is the pad side or whatever from the through lanes, the suppressed. I understand you have some unique topography in there. Yes.

22:29 – 22:48Speaker 9

So when you actually get to the hard corner, it's approximately 15 to 17 feet in height. Below. Yeah, the highway dips down below. And then it rises back up on the other side to where you have the flyovers going to the other highways.

22:49Speaker 7

And could you go back to the eastbound exit, which is the one that you're trying to address?

22:57Speaker 11

The westbound is the one you're most worried about, right?

23:00Speaker 9

Yes, this is the eastbound.

23:01Speaker 7

Eastbound's the one that he's worried about.

23:03 – 23:17Speaker 9

Visibility, right? It's the westbound. The eastbound I was just showing, depicting that you can see it under the bridge as it goes under, but then the westbound, you lose it before you get to the top of the hill.

23:21Speaker 7

So the request is mainly to increase the visibility from east or west? From west, that's correct. And okay, go back to the west.

23:33 – 23:56Speaker 9

Yep, there you go. Now keep in mind, this is sitting on top of the hill as you exit that goal point. Probably should have took a picture going further back east. couple of hundred feet, you're below, and you can't see the top of that exit as you approach.

23:56Speaker 11

So at this point in this picture, we've already missed the exit, right? Because the exit's right there on the right?

24:01Speaker 9

Pretty much. It's sitting on, yes, right on top of the hill. So you're behind the Gore Point.

24:08Speaker 7

Question, did you, since you had the crane out there, did y'all do photos of a 35-foot sign and what is allowed by right, 25-foot?

24:19 – 24:30Speaker 9

Yes, 25 was not visible. The 35 was barely visible, but you wouldn't have been, by our calculations, you wouldn't have been able to see one of the pricers.

24:31Speaker 7

Do you know how tall the retail sign across Oak Grove is, its height?

24:37Speaker 9

We shot it with a range finder, and it's approximately 30 feet.

24:42Speaker 7

Okay, thank you.

24:46 – 25:32Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant? Stafford, could you go back to the overhead view? It looks like there was a curve on I-20. Keep going back, please. I just wanted to ask the applicant, based on, it looks like you have elevation issues with regard to where the site sits up and down also on the freeway, but you also have the curve issue as well. It looks like, is that going westbound, it looks like.

25:33Speaker 9

It's westbound.

25:33Speaker 18

Yeah. And so it looks like you're also trying to, you're trying to get higher to be able to see the visibility much further back with the curve as well of the highway.

25:42Speaker 7

Okay, thank you. Any other questions for the applicant? Could you go back to the slide from the Highland Hills Neighborhood Association?

26:18Speaker 18

Thank you. Any other questions for the applicant?

26:27Speaker 18

Having seen none, I'm going to close the public portion of the hearing. Sir, you can have a seat. We might call you back up for some more questions, but I'll open it up to a discussion among the board and or a motion.

26:39Speaker 11

I'm just gonna say that we don't want trucks making last minute decisions to exit. This is a safety issue and I don't think we're gonna be cluttering up the skyline any more than it already is.

26:50 – 27:03Speaker 7

I have one other question of the applicant, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Sir, if you would come back up, sorry. Does this stretch of Interstate 20 have logo signs? Highway logo signs?

27:03Speaker 9

Trailblazers? Yeah. They do at certain portions of the highway.

27:09Speaker 7

Is there one that would address your all's concern for westbound traffic?

27:14Speaker 9

There's one eastbound. I'm not 100% sure that there's one westbound.

27:23 – 27:41Speaker 10

Yes, sir. Mr. Wooden. I have no problem with this one. I think it does enhance safety. I'll add on to Mr. Garza's comment. The applicant's done his homework. answered most of our questions before we got here. I think this is kind of the way the process is supposed to work. So I have no problem with this variance.

27:42Speaker 18

Thank you. Any other discussion or a motion?

27:46 – 27:57Speaker 10

I'll make a motion. Please. Move that we approve BAC-26-021 as submitted.

27:58 – 28:09Speaker 18

Thank you. I second. Mr. King, Mr. Garza? Who's taking it? You're taking it, Ms. King. Ms. King's second. Staff, could we please form a roll call vote?

28:10 – 28:23Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAC-26-021, motion made by Board Member Jim Whitten and seconded by Board Member Sandra King to approve. Roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten?

28:24Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza?

28:26Speaker 29

Board Member Michael Johnson?

28:28Speaker 29

Board Member Bob Riley?

28:30 – 28:44Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King? Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman? Yes. Board Member Jana Herrera? Yes. Board Member Kay Duffy? Yes. Board Member Madison Gutierrez? Yes. Board Member Eric Ortega? Yes. Board Member Juan Manuel Costa?

28:45Speaker 29

Motion passes.

28:47 – 28:58Speaker 18

All right. Thank you, sir. Congratulations. Your application has been approved. Should you have any questions, please reach out to staff as early as tomorrow. Thank you. All right, staff, are we moving on to the next case?

28:59Speaker 29

Mr. Chair, first may I ask if the applicants of case BAR-26-072 present? That is Jesus and Teresa Ramirez.

29:12Speaker 18

Chair, can we move on to- Yes, I don't see them here, so let's move on to the next case.

29:17Speaker 29

The next case is BAC-26-019. Ms. Reyes, we're ready when you are.

29:23 – 31:44Speaker 27

The property is located at 6013 Retail Way. The property owner is Chisholm Trail Center with the applicant being Sandra Pauline Wright. The zoning district is G Intensive Commercial. The applicant is requesting a special exception for a monument sign with electronic changeable copy in a commercial zoning district located on the southern property line. The subject property is a .9947 acre lot and is located at the southwest lot line adjacent to McPherson Boulevard. The subject property has a .58% overall slope from the southern property line to the northern property line, and the property does not contain mature trees and is not located within a floodplain. There is a sign permit currently awaiting client reply, which is pending the outcome of this case. The applicant is requesting one special exception to allow electronic changeable copy on a monument sign in a commercial zoning district. The zoning ordinance states in section 6.411A, electronic changeable copy signs may be permitted by special exception of the Board of Adjustment and Commercial, Industrial, Mixed Use, and Commercial Facility Zoning District subject to certain conditions. One, the presence of other electronic changeable copy signs in the vicinity. Two, the visibility from residential districts. Three, the street classification of the adjacent roadways. And four, the proximity to scenic areas or corridors. There is one other electronic changeable copy sign near the vicinity. There is multifamily use near the vicinity. McPherson is classified as a commercial connector, and the site is not within a scenic area or corridor. Applicant is requesting a special exception to allow electronic changeable copy on a monument sign in a commercial zoning district. The proposed monument sign that complies with the maximum allowable area. The proposed total sign area is 90 square feet. The advertised area is 52.17 square feet with the ECC portion of the sign at 4.53 square feet and they are requesting 8.68% where a maximum of 25% is allowed. These are the regulations that pertain to this case. These are the board's actions and this concludes staff's presentation and I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

31:45Speaker 18

Thank you very much.

31:46Speaker 17

Questions for staff? Is this a vacant piece of property right now?

31:57 – 32:09Speaker 17

It looks like from the photograph of the proposed sign that it's a Murphy USA, which I understand is a gasoline, retail gasoline facility.

32:12Speaker 17

But it hasn't been built yet?

32:16Speaker 17

You know of any building permit application or anything like that showing an intent to build a gasoline station here?

32:26 – 32:42Speaker 29

Board Member Johnston, the gas station is built on the lot next to this one. This site is within the USA Unified Sign Agreement, so this sign is off-site. However, the gas station is currently under construction. Okay.

32:43Speaker 17

Is there something that shows us where the gasoline station is being constructed?

32:48 – 33:01Speaker 29

It should be in the aerial photo. Yep, there. So where you see the gas awning there to the right side of the screen?

33:02Speaker 11

No, we don't see anything.

33:04Speaker 18

Can you circle that or? On the right-hand picture.

33:27 – 33:42Speaker 29

Yes, Rock Rose and McPherson. So the gas station will be on the corner of Rock Rose and McPherson, and the sign will be to the left of that, to the west of the gas station.

33:45Speaker 17

The proposed sign would be across the street from the gas station?

33:49 – 34:00Speaker 29

Not across the street, but right to the left of it. Emily, can you?

34:00Speaker 17

I'm not seeing anything underneath.

34:01 – 34:23Speaker 29

Can you draw a line to separate the two lots down the middle of this yellow block? And can you draw a circle where the gas station is? And can you draw a triangle where the sign will be? Thank you.

34:24Speaker 18

And then maybe on the right-hand side, kind of the elevation, could you also do the same? So as you're looking straight on, if that's possible, just approximate locations.

34:37Speaker 29

Can you draw a circle around the, yeah, and a triangle where the sign will be? Won't be quite that far, but.

34:45Speaker 18

Yeah, that's the idea. Thank you.

34:46Speaker 11

I have a question.

34:53Speaker 11

This is a Murphy gas station. Is this a, they're building a Walmart here?

34:57Speaker 29

I do not believe there will be a Walmart here. Just a standalone gas station.

35:09 – 35:33Speaker 18

One of the criteria talks about residential, in a residential district, is this Obviously, there's residential behind. Is this close to a residential district? How is that defined, meeting one of those criteria? Does that make sense with regard to how close we are to a residential district? Does it have to be out of a residential district? Does that make sense?

35:37Speaker 29

Language just reads, is it within a vicinity of a residential district? And you can make your consideration based on that.

35:45Speaker 18

So it's vicinity?

35:47Speaker 18

And do you know if there's other residential across the street?

35:51Speaker 29

There is not. It's a commercial development being built right across the street.

35:56Speaker 29

And only the multifamily that's behind.

35:58Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. I just want to make one note. It's visibility of a residential district. Oh, visibility. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for staff?

36:08 – 36:20Speaker 21

I had a question. Please. The four criteria that were met is, that were mentioned, is it correct that you stated those were met? The only thing that's outside is the percentage of the size of the sign?

36:20Speaker 27

No, they're not here for the percentage of the sign. They're here for the ECC portion of it.

36:25Speaker 21

The electronic? Correct. Electronic, okay.

36:28Speaker 29

Emily, can you go to the slide with the criteria?

36:42Speaker 21

Okay, thank you.

36:55Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff? Okay. Thank you, Ms. Reyes. Is the applicant here?

37:06 – 37:17Speaker 18

Yes, please come up. Please come forward. Please state your name, address, and the facts about your case. And you have seven minutes. I haven't started it yet.

37:17 – 38:34Speaker 26

Hi, I'm Sandra Pauling Wright, 809 Greenboro Road, Faith, Texas, 75132. I'm here on behalf of the applicant requesting that we have a price sign on that corner. So this is actually a large development going in and this will be considered one of the multi-tenant signs. And adjacent to our price sign, just to the right of it, we've left a blank for the retailer that's going to be there on that corner next to our lot. We're requesting staff allows us to do scrolling gas price signs. In this case, we're getting away from or Murphy is getting away from using scrolling gas price signs and going to the new upgraded LED price signs. So price signs are considered to be electronic changeable message centers. The only thing that would be changing on this is the actual prices. They don't display any other characters or fast moving, any kind of motion other than just changing their gas prices. Open to any questions you might have.

38:35Speaker 18

You still have plenty of time if there's anything else you need to add.

38:39Speaker 26

I do not care. No, I'm open to any questions.

38:41 – 39:08Speaker 18

Okay. Yeah. We'll get to questions in a minute. Is there anyone else here to speak in support of this case? Is there anyone else? I'm sorry. Is there anyone here to speak in opposition to this case? Okay. Having seen none, I will open it up to questions from the board. Ma'am, I'm sorry to make you walk back up. We might have some questions for you. If you would, please come to the mic. Any questions for the applicant?

39:10Speaker 10

I've got one.

39:10Speaker 18

Yes, sir, please.

39:11Speaker 10

Will the sign face east and west on McPherson? In other words, that's where it's going to be visible.

39:23Speaker 17

This is Johnston. Is there a reason why the sign is not closer to the actual gasoline station?

39:32 – 39:43Speaker 26

Well, it's because it's a larger developed area. This is just one of the signs that was approved by the developer and also making it a multi-tenant.

39:45Speaker 17

When you say multi-tenant, what do you mean?

39:48 – 40:05Speaker 26

So the scene that they showed where they divided the lot, we're on the right. The people on the left will also be on this, excuse me, on this sign. See the blank area, the white area? That will be for them to display their business.

40:06Speaker 17

Okay. Will the white area be electronically changeable?

40:11Speaker 26

No, sir. No, sir. It'll be whatever establishment that goes in that building will go on that base.

40:24 – 40:36Speaker 7

I've got one question. Yes, sir. Mr. Rowland. When you cross, this will be the only entrance into this pad site from McPherson, correct?

40:37Speaker 26

That's correct. Thank you.

40:40Speaker 7

and the property is subject to a unified sign agreement.

40:44Speaker 26

That's correct.

40:45Speaker 7

Thank you. Yes, ma'am.

40:48Speaker 5

I have a question. You indicated that there would be multi-tenants, is that correct?

40:54Speaker 26

That's correct, yes, ma'am.

40:55Speaker 5

Can you say how many?

40:58 – 41:31Speaker 26

Well, on this particular one, there's only going to be one, and that's Murphy USA on the left, and then the other tenant would be on the right. Being a larger developed area, I think Target is the main staple of this, and they will have additional signs of their own around the perimeter of the property. I think there is other establishments on there. I know that Murphy will be on one of those multi-tenants, but it's quite some distance away and will not have gas prices on it.

41:32Speaker 21

Any other questions? Yes, sir. Was there a site plan submitted or available?

41:42 – 42:20Speaker 28

Commissioners, this is Maribel. So currently, this is the Target Retail Center along Chisholm Trail McPherson. They are developing about 13 lots, the majority of them facing McPherson. I am the one reviewing their unified sign agreement at this moment. However, electronic changeable copy, again, is not allowed by right, so they have to come before you for that approval. If they wish to move forward without the ECC, they would be allowed by right. All of these signs contain shared signage, so they do not have to be on the same premise as the business.

42:24 – 42:41Speaker 21

Yes, thank you. Looking at the site plan, so this specific location, is this like an entrance point to the site development, given that it's a split parcel that's gonna be multi-tenant developed? Is that the reason for placing it here? Yes, sir, that's it. Okay, thank you.

42:44 – 43:00Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. Thank you, ma'am. I'm going to close the public portion of this hearing, and we will move to board discussion regarding this case and or a motion. Yes, sir, please.

43:01 – 43:30Speaker 8

I've got a question for our panel here. What about this sign doesn't make it a slam dunk? They qualify for everything else. And by right, they can put the sign where they want to put the sign. They just want us to approve the digital, you know, to make it whether they can change gas prices. To me, this is a slam dunk. And I'm just curious. I'd like to learn your perspective on that.

43:31 – 43:54Speaker 11

Well, I think it's also a slam dunk because, I mean, it's the gas prices. Like, we love those. But it is unique in that it's on a multi-tenant sign. So if something happens to the gas station, it could easily say, you know, the target's selling Coca-Cola for $2 a pack today or something, right? I mean, we approve the sign. We don't get to say what it says on it.

43:58Speaker 7

And I would...

44:00Speaker 11

But they're not going to dig up a gas station and make it go away, right? Gas stations are hard to install. It's going to be there a while.

44:06Speaker 7

And maybe Maribel or someone can explain what a unified sign agreement is.

44:13 – 45:01Speaker 28

So unified sign agreement is, excuse me, it could be a multi-lot, multi-tenant. It could be one lot multi-tenant, but it allows the tenants to be able to advertise on other lots. Normally this is considered off-premise signage and we would not allow it by right. The only way they can advertise off-premise is through a unified sign agreement. So all of these signs have to come in through plan review, and they must meet all the required sign regulations, otherwise they would come before you. So currently, if they came in and they wanted more ECC than what is approved today, they would have to come back before you.

45:03Speaker 7

And the unified sign agreement purpose only, I mean, it's also for multi-tenants, but also it's a reduction of overall signage?

45:11 – 45:36Speaker 28

That is correct. So normally a lot would be allowed by right, one monument sign per lot. Typically in the USA, they will place a larger sign, such as a pylon sign, every other lot or every third lot. But the point of it is multi-tenant, off-premise signage, and a 50% reduction in sign clutter.

45:38 – 46:01Speaker 7

And we would be, this would be for us anyway, because it's electronic, changeable copy, but without a unified sign agreement, this sign would, could be on their lot, and the lot next to it that's not being developed yet, where the sign is proposed, could have its own monument sign.

46:05 – 46:21Speaker 18

Ms. Pena, do you know that if we are approving, are we approving this monument sign as a package? Meaning, are we approving just the left-hand side of this as ECC, or are we approving the entire also right-hand side as ECC?

46:21Speaker 28

You are only approving the electronic changeable copy portion.

46:24Speaker 18

Got it. Thank you.

46:29Speaker 5

I'm in agreement with Mr. Garza's initial statement that this really is a slam dunk.

46:38Speaker 18

Open for a motion or more discussion? Move approval. Motion by Mr. Riley to approve. Second?

46:48Speaker 18

Mr. Garza? Second. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

46:55 – 47:09Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAC-26-019 as requested by the applicant. Motion made by Board Member Bob Riley and seconded by Board Member Sergio Garza. Roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten.

47:10Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza. Yes. Board Member Michael Johnston. Yes. Board Member Bob Riley.

47:15 – 47:34Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King. Yes. Board Member Whit Woldman. Yes. Board Member Janet Herrera. That's a yes for Board Member Janet Herrera. Stacy, can you reset Board Member Herrera's mic? Board Member Kay Duffy? Yes. Board Member Madison Gutierrez?

47:35Speaker 29

Board Member Eric Ortega? Yes. Board Member Juan Manuel Costa?

47:39Speaker 29

The motion passes.

47:41Speaker 18

We need to get Ms. Herrera on the mic. Affirmative.

47:45Speaker 29

I have it for the record. Yes, for Board Member Jennifer Herrera.

47:47 – 48:28Speaker 18

Okay. Ma'am, congratulations. Your application has been approved. Should you have any questions for staff, please reach out as early as tomorrow. Thank you. The reason why we keep coming back to be the first case on the agenda is it's a translation case. Are the applicants here? Is it Jesus and Teresa Ramirez? Okay, so board, we're gonna ask, the translator can only be here for another 10 minutes. So we wanna take action on this board, on this particular case. We can continue to next meeting. We can take other action on this, but we kinda need to move it along on the agenda.

48:29Speaker 19

Is there any discussion?

48:34Speaker 29

Can you reset Ms. Herrera's mic? She's in seat 12.

48:39Speaker 12

There we go. I suggest we move it to next month.

48:44Speaker 18

Mr. Qualls, do we need to call it? Can we go ahead and continue it? Okay. There's a motion by Ms. Herrera. I'll let you make the motion.

48:54Speaker 12

I'd like to make a motion to move BAR26-072, correct? Yes, correct. To next month's meeting.

49:03Speaker 7

Second. Second.

49:04Speaker 18

Second by Mr. Riley, a motion made by Ms. Herrera. Staff, if you would please perform a roll call vote on the continuance for that case.

49:13Speaker 29

Yes, roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten?

49:17Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza?

49:19Speaker 29

Board Member Michael Johnston?

49:20Speaker 29

Board Member Bob Riley?

49:22Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King? Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman?

49:26Speaker 29

Board Member Jana Herrera?

49:28Speaker 29

Board Member Kay Duffy? Yes. Board Member Madison Gutierrez?

49:33Speaker 29

Board Member Eric Ortega?

49:35Speaker 29

Board Member Juan Manuel Acosta?

49:37Speaker 29

The motion passes. This case is continued to the September meeting.

49:42Speaker 18

Thank you very much for being here. We appreciate you. Okay, we are moving on to BAC-26-022. Is that correct?

49:52Speaker 7

No. Which one we just got through doing?

49:57Speaker 29

That is correct.

49:58 – 50:12Speaker 18

Yeah, BAC-26-022. Lydia? Yeah. We're ready, and you are. Thank you, Ms. Reyes.

50:12 – 52:57Speaker 27

The next case is BAC-26-022, located at 197 Barnwood Drive, also known as 150 Wood Barnwood slash 14100 John D. Road. The property owner is SBA Towers XLLC, and the applicant is Sterling Macy, and the property is zoned I, light industrial. The applicant is requesting a variance to the maximum height allowed for telecommunications tower in a light industrial zoning district to permit a 106-foot tall telecommution tower that exceeds the maximum allowed. The maximum allowed height by the zoning district is 75 feet. They have prior Board of Adjustments approval, which allowed 95 feet, and they are coming back to the board to allow 106 feet. The subject property is a 10,119 square foot property located in the north of Barnwood Road and east of John Day Road. The property contains several mature trees, no presence of floodplain, and the project specific area is relatively flat. There is currently a 94 foot tall telecommunications tower located in the proposed project area. As stated earlier, there was prior Board of Adjustments approval to allow a telecommunication tower to exceed to the maximum height allowed in 2020. The zoning ordinance section 9.101 defines a telecommunication tower as a facility including self-supporting latest towers, guide towers or monopole towers, but not including stealth telecommunication towers designed to support one or more antennas and to contain ancillary facilities designed and used for the purpose of transmitting, receiving and relaying voice data and other similar signals to or form various wireless communication devices. The applicant is requesting a variance to allow a telecommunication tower to exceed the maximum permitted height. The subject property is zoned I, Light Industrial District, which permits telecommunication towers with a maximum height of 75 feet. The Board of Adjustment previously approved a variance for a 95 foot telecommunication tower in 2020, and that tower is proposed to have a height of 106 feet, which exceeds the previously approved Board of Adjustments by 11 feet. The proposed tower would be located approximately 1,000 feet from the adjacent residential district to the southwest across John Day Road, and the proposed location complies with the applicable setback requirements. And if the variance request is approved, the applicant will be required to meet all other development standards and regulations. These are the regulations that pertain to this case, and these are the board's actions, and this concludes staff's presentations, and I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

52:58 – 53:11Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Questions for staff? I have one, Ms. Reyes. Do you know, are they gonna take down the current tower and rebuild an entirely new tower, or will they extend?

53:12Speaker 27

I'm gonna refer to the applicant on that because they reached out on Friday with a different design, but from my understanding, they're gonna build on it.

53:22Speaker 18

So probably take down, I will ask, but take down the current and rebuild new, okay. Any other questions for staff?

53:36 – 53:54Speaker 8

Okay. I have a question. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. In the picture, where it's the barn wood picture with the satellite, there's power lines about the same height as the tower, correct? Pretty close to that tower?

53:55Speaker 27

Pretty close, yes.

54:00 – 54:22Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff? Okay, thank you very much. Is the applicant here? Yes, ma'am, thank you. Please come forward, state your name, address, and facts about the case, and you have seven minutes.

54:23 – 55:22Speaker 4

Hi, I'm Janice Manley. 303 Traveler Street, Hickory Creek, Texas, 75065. On behalf of SBA Towers, we are actually just going to extend the present tower. We're not going to take it down. We're just going to add another 10-foot section to put Verizon on it. Right now, we have AT&T and T-Mobile on the tower, and Verizon is looking to add their antennas so that they can serve their customers in the area. The only change that was made over that she mentioned that was made on Friday was just different antennas that are going on the tower. Instead of six larger antennas, they're going to go with six smaller antennas and three large antennas. It's basically upgrading their technology.

55:24Speaker 18

That's great. And you still have six minutes, so you have plenty of time if there's anything else you need to add.

55:28Speaker 4

No, that's pretty much it.

55:29 – 55:50Speaker 18

Okay. Is there anyone else here to speak in support of this case? Is there anyone here to speak in opposition? Okay, having seen none, I'm going to close the public portion of the hearing. Actually, let me open it up to questions from staff, or from the board, excuse me. Ms. Herrera, please go ahead.

55:50 – 56:11Speaker 12

Hi, I have a question. So when this company came originally, was there not the anticipation of other suppliers coming? So now it's Verizon, and then are you going to come back in a couple years for T-Mobile or something else and just keep growing it?

56:12Speaker 4

No, T-Mobile's already there.

56:14Speaker 12

So is there anybody else to add to the tower?

56:17Speaker 4

No, there aren't any other major carriers. It's Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile. That's it.

56:24Speaker 3

Okay, thank you. I have a question.

56:26 – 56:39Speaker 5

Please. I didn't see it in the information that we were given, but are you able to say from a technological standpoint, like why this is necessary?

56:40 – 57:13Speaker 4

Because Verizon doesn't have any, they don't have a presence here, so they can't service their customers. So if you have Verizon service on your phone, and you're right here at this tower, you're not gonna have service. Your phone, you may have like one line or one dot because if Verizon doesn't have antennas on this tower and you have a Verizon phone, then you don't have service.

57:13Speaker 5

So this is the only tower in this area?

57:16 – 57:35Speaker 4

It's the only tower, yeah, this area is pretty big. There's not a lot around it right now. I think it's still being developed, the whole area. But there's not another tower close to this one that Verizon is on. Question.

57:35Speaker 10

Have you submitted a rendering of the updated? Do we have that? We can see what it's going to look like.

57:42Speaker 29

Yes, we'll pull it in just a second.

57:47 – 58:22Speaker 18

And I have a question about the construction side of it too. Is it, is it just, I'm sure crane adding 10 feet, 15 feet, whatever to, to make those two on top of that pole. Okay. Do we know if this is the latest updated from Friday? Yeah. Okay. This is. You confirm that.

58:22Speaker 14

Okay, thanks.

58:59Speaker 12

I have a question for the applicant.

59:02Speaker 18

Let me, Mr. Whitten, did this answer your question? Is this what you're?

59:04Speaker 10

Well, there seemed like a recall last night looking, there was a picture or, you know, rendering of what it will actually look like, not a diagram, but what the.

59:12Speaker 18

More of an elevation, like a.

59:13Speaker 10

Tower would look like with the extension on it.

59:15Speaker 18

Staff, do we have anything?

59:16Speaker 4

No, I don't think we have a photo sim showing what the tower will look like after the, we just have the drawing.

59:23Speaker 18

This is the closest, okay.

59:29Speaker 10

I thought I saw one because it actually looked better than the existing tower.

59:34Speaker 18

Yeah, okay. I have a question of staff. Let me, oh sorry, let me go to Ms. Rivera real quick.

59:39Speaker 12

Ma'am, could you tell us what's around in this vicinity of where the tower is? Is there a residential nearby?

59:49Speaker 4

There is, but it's not really close. I don't know exactly how far away it is.

59:55Speaker 12

I think in the packet, I'm reading now my notes, about a thousand square feet. Does that sound right?

1:00:05 – 1:00:29Speaker 11

so can i tag on to your question so what is really close to that on songbird lane there is manufactured housing that's been there at least 30 or 40 years so how is that zoned that manufactured housing neighborhood right there staff you know or miss pena because that's that's really close

1:00:40Speaker 29

Just give us one second to confirm.

1:00:43 – 1:00:54Speaker 11

Thank you. Can I ask another question while you're looking things up? Sure. So this is pretty close to the runway at Alliance. Did we have to clear this through that or is it not tall enough to worry about that?

1:00:55Speaker 4

No, we get clearance for FAA. That's one of the first things we do.

1:01:07Speaker 8

It seems to be on the industrial side of the railroad tracks, between two railroad tracks.

1:01:12Speaker 11

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I'm guessing that manufactured housing has been rezoned to something. It might be light industrial when those houses go away. I don't know.

1:01:25 – 1:01:56Speaker 29

It's just taking my map a little minute to load but manufacture housing is outside of the typical zoning for has its own zoning district image in this case. i'm not showing i'm not sure what the zoning district of the manufacturer housing is but it's not in a category with residential districts. I think we're having some difficulties with our GIS map at the moment.

1:01:56 – 1:02:09Speaker 17

Okay. Yes, sir, please. Yeah, this is Johnston. First of all, from looking at the photographs of the existing tower, it does not look like there's any obstruction to these antennas.

1:02:09Speaker 23

Am I looking at that correctly?

1:02:12Speaker 17

Is there a reason why the Verizon antennas could not be put below the other two existing ones?

1:02:20Speaker 4

They couldn't get the amount of coverage if it was lower as they can when it's higher.

1:02:28Speaker 17

Well, but as I understand what you're saying, they certainly could put the Verizon antennas below. It would be less coverage than the other two on top.

1:02:39Speaker 4

It would be less coverage for Verizon.

1:02:42Speaker 17

For Verizon. That's what I'm trying to say.

1:02:48Speaker 17

But at least there would be coverage to some extent. Has there been any testing of that that you know of?

1:02:55 – 1:03:32Speaker 4

Yeah, we went to RF, the RF engineer at Verizon, and gave them the opportunity to choose the lower rad, the rad center, which is below, I don't know who's, I can't remember, T-Mobile's at the bottom so far. They would have to be at like a 65 foot, center line, and they couldn't, they couldn't cover what they needed to cover. They would have had to, if they went to 65, they would have to look, either look for or build another tower closer to where they need more coverage.

1:03:32 – 1:04:03Speaker 17

As I understand it, and I might be wrong, there's been sort of a, either a, a formal or informal policy in the city of Fort Worth to try to place these antennas on existing structures. I've seen them on top of power lines, other towers and so forth. Are there any other towers close to this height in the vicinity that you know of? Not that I know of, no. We do know that there's electric lines close. We saw those in the photographs.

1:04:04Speaker 4

Yes, there are electric lines, yes.

1:04:15Speaker 18

Thank you. I'm going to come back to Mr. Riley one second. Ms. Duffy, did you have any other questions about zoning or anything?

1:04:24 – 1:04:53Speaker 11

I mean, not necessarily, I feel like the people in those manufactured houses aren't necessarily gonna notice a big difference in 11 feet, but if it is zoned A5 or something, it might be something we would take into account. Right now, last time I drove through that neighborhood, it's like manufactured housing on a couple acres, maybe even as much as five acres each, and they've been there a long time, so I'm guessing they might be zoned in as light industrial at this point.

1:04:55Speaker 18

We can wait for that map if it's still coming up. Mr. Riley.

1:04:58 – 1:05:16Speaker 7

I have a question of staff, probably Mayor Bell. The I industrial zoning, which is the underlying zoning, allows 55-foot maximum, but it also allows up to a 75-foot cell tower. Is that correct?

1:05:17Speaker 28

Yes, that is correct.

1:05:19Speaker 7

And right next to it is K heavy industrial. Okay. which I believe has a building height of 120 feet?

1:05:25Speaker 28

That is correct.

1:05:27Speaker 7

How tall could a cell tower be in that district?

1:05:34Speaker 7

And if it was J, 120 same?

1:05:38 – 1:06:00Speaker 28

120. So there's K zoning to the north of the cell tower? to the west across John Day Road, there is some A5, but it is about, probably about 1,200, 1,300 feet away from property line to property line.

1:06:03Speaker 11

So you're saying there's a parcel in between that zoning you just told us and the one we're looking at?

1:06:10Speaker 18

Yes, sir, Mr. Garza.

1:06:11 – 1:07:26Speaker 8

Okay, so this cell tower is part of a cell system. We were told last time it can't be moved. It has to be where it's at now. So they want 11 feet. It's pretty much in a railroad yard. It's not near residences. The last one was in the middle of a high school. Remember? And this one, technology changes in about 10 years. This whole cell system may be obsolete, but between now and then for the next 10 years, if someone makes a 911 call and they're on Verizon, I mean, we have to consider what they're doing is definitely for profit, but it's also for safety. And it's kind of where we're going to. You know, the technology, it's getting a lot more people there in Haslett, it's growing, and we want to give them the option to have that cell tower coverage. For me, this is pretty simple. You know, 11 feet is, I have no problems with giving them what they need at this time. And if they come back in about five years and need another 11 feet, I'll probably give them that too. Because technology is, that's what they need. There's no other reason they would want to build something in the middle of nowhere. They have their reasons, and I consider it a safety issue.

1:07:28Speaker 18

Yeah, and I would just remind, I appreciate what you said, but we're in the portion of the meeting where we're questioning the applicant. We will have more discussion, and I'm glad you said what you did.

1:07:37Speaker 8

No, the reason that I say the cell tower cannot be moved is why, because it's part of the cell system.

1:07:45Speaker 8

That's all. Thank you. Sorry about that.

1:07:48 – 1:08:07Speaker 18

No, you're fine. You're great. Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Stay close because we might have more questions for your discussion. I'm going to close the public portion of the hearing and let's open it up to questions from the board, or excuse me, discussion from the board, please.

1:08:08 – 1:08:23Speaker 10

I tend to agree. I mean, the alternative to adding 11 feet to this tower is another tower, which I think is far less objectionable to add 11 feet to this tower at this location than to go find another tower somewhere else. So it

1:08:28 – 1:09:33Speaker 17

This is Johnston. I understand that, and I understand the practicalities. But when you go back to the standard of what we can do in terms of a variance, the standard is whether there is some unique feature of the property not caused by the landowner that requires a variance of the zoning ordinance. So right now... The zoning ordinance is 75 feet, but there's been an agreement to extend that to 95 feet. So we're looking at 95 feet. My question is, what is there about this property that caused a hardship? And there's no obstruction around the tower. The Verizon antennas could be located below the existing antennas. Yes, there would be less than optimal coverage. but is that a unique feature of the property not caused by the landowner? I'm having a hard time seeing it.

1:09:35 – 1:10:43Speaker 10

I think it might not be a unique feature of the property. It's a unique feature of what we're talking about, cell tower coverage. It's a unique feature of the property. We're talking about a structure here. We're talking about the service that's offered from this tower. I mean, the way I look at it, you know, you can't just go around dropping a cell tower wherever you want to. That's a whole different process. And again, from my perspective, I'd rather have something else hanging on the cell, another antenna hanging on the cell tower, even if it has to go up at 10 feet. In this particular location, I mean, it's been pointed out, the high-voltage transmission lines nearby, railroad line, to me, this is kind of where we want them, as opposed to... one that Mr. Garza mentioned, the one that I had to recuse myself from because it was in the middle of a school campus. And this, to me, is far preferable than, say, one in the middle of some school campus, say, at Eagle Mountain Saginaw or whatever, Northwest ISD, whatever district that's in. So that's why I would support this one.

1:10:44 – 1:11:11Speaker 17

And I understand my friend... Brother Whitten. And if we were the city council, I'd be voting for this thing instantly. But we don't have the power to change the ordinance, except when there is a finding of a unique circumstance on the property not caused by the landowner that creates a hardship. That's our standard. That's what we can work under. So anyway.

1:11:13 – 1:11:27Speaker 11

I think what you're calling for is a needed change to the zoning code, which I think that as a body, we have several suggestions, and that would be definitely one of them. If technology has evolved, the zoning code needs to as well.

1:11:30 – 1:12:05Speaker 7

I'll be personally, Ms. Riley, I'll be personally supportive of this. I see the other alternative is put another 95-foot pole next to this one. and now I have two poles instead of one. And it's in the middle of an industrial area. It could be rezoned to K or J and they'd be allowed by right. We wouldn't even be needing this special exception. So I know that's a lot of ifs, but I think this is a perfect location for it.

1:12:05Speaker 18

Please go ahead.

1:12:07 – 1:12:50Speaker 5

I don't have a problem with the tower. I'm stuck at Verizon being the company saying this is what we want and this is what we're going to get. There are other communications companies that are using this tower. How did Verizon get to say we want the top tier? Could not other companies, T-Mobile or whomever say, or AT&T say, we want the top tier. So I'm seeing it more of an issue of having a larger segment of the population more than anything else. That's just where I'm stuck.

1:12:52Speaker 8

I have a question.

1:12:54Speaker 18

Please go ahead. Ma'am, if you would, please come back up. Thank you.

1:13:00 – 1:13:12Speaker 8

My question is how often do you find yourself wanting to expand any cell provider into any part of the country? Is that quite common nowadays?

1:13:14Speaker 4

How often? I'm sorry.

1:13:15Speaker 8

Let's say that we expand between here and Oklahoma.

1:13:21 – 1:13:35Speaker 4

I'm currently working in the Texas and Oklahoma market. I have Verizon. I have 48. So 48 separate sites that they want to go on our tower.

1:13:35Speaker 8

And it's not just Verizon. It's maybe AT&T.

1:13:38 – 1:13:51Speaker 4

For me, I work for SBA, and I'm working on a Verizon project for SBA. So if Verizon wants to go on an SBA tower in a certain location like this one, they come to me.

1:13:52Speaker 8

It's quite a common operation then.

1:13:54 – 1:14:29Speaker 4

Yeah. Okay, thank you. And the reason, it's not that Verizon wants to have the top tier, it's the fact that the only way they can service their customers is if they're at a higher RAD. They would have taken the... 75 feet if it had been available. They would have taken the 85 feet if it were available. But neither one of those are available because T-Mobile and AT&T are there. So they have to go to the next level up in order to put their antennas there to service their customers.

1:14:32Speaker 18

Thank you. Ms. Herrera, please. Did you have a question for the applicant?

1:14:39 – 1:15:07Speaker 12

I have a question, ma'am. So do the cellular companies pay for their spot on a rad on a tower? Yes. So what happens with the other two that are already there? Can they come back and be disgruntled because now Verizon has the top rad? Does they... So if someone goes above them, do they have more of a radius versus the others?

1:15:08 – 1:15:34Speaker 4

No, they all get 10 feet of vertical space. AT&T gets 10 feet, T-Mobile gets 10 feet, Verizon gets 10 feet. And whatever antennas or radios they want to put inside that 10 feet, as long as they're within that 10 feet, they're fine. They can't go above or below that 10 feet because then they would interfere with the other carrier and we won't let them do that.

1:15:34Speaker 18

Are you asking about position and just efficiency in terms of, would AT&T or T-Mobile come back and say, well, I want to be on top?

1:15:41 – 1:15:52Speaker 4

That's what I'm asking. No. If AT&T or T-Mobile want to improve their service, they'll just change out their antennas.

1:15:53Speaker 12

So why couldn't Verizon be that bottom rad? I mean, they're claiming to you that they need to be the top.

1:16:01 – 1:16:29Speaker 4

But there's nothing. 65 feet is just, it's not going to cover the coverage area that they need to cover. And like we said, they would have to either build another tower or find another tower close by to go on. And it's, to me or to us, it's just smarter just to add another 10 feet so they can go there instead of going out and trying to find a space to build another tower.

1:16:29Speaker 12

And you've not provided in any of the documents to show us a radius of what Verizon could be.

1:16:36Speaker 4

No, I don't have their propagation maps. I didn't know I needed those. I'm sorry. Thank you.

1:16:42 – 1:17:08Speaker 21

I have a question. So it sounds like what you're saying is whether it's T-Mobile, AT&T, or Verizon, below 75 feet, no one would build their tower. So it's not about this under 75 feet. It's more about none of this technology would go in, and if they can't go up above this 95 feet, in essence, the solution would be another tower, and it would probably be at 75 feet.

1:17:10Speaker 4

At least, if not higher. Right.

1:17:12 – 1:17:32Speaker 17

Yeah. This is Johnston. Are there engineering studies from Verizon or anyone else in the telecommunications industry that shows what the coverage would be at, let's say, the bottom tier versus what it would be at the top tier?

1:17:33Speaker 4

I can request a propagation map to show what it would be at 65 feet instead of the 95 feet.

1:17:42 – 1:18:03Speaker 17

And what you have told us is I believe what you believe, and that is that you believe there would be less coverage if Verizon put their antennas below. But you don't know of any studies or engineering reports that support that. Am I correct in that?

1:18:03 – 1:18:14Speaker 4

No, I just know that when we went to the RF engineer and told him that they could go at 65, they said no, that wouldn't work for their coverage area, for what they needed to cover.

1:18:14Speaker 17

And I appreciate you letting me know that. Thank you.

1:18:19 – 1:18:36Speaker 18

We're still in the board discussion phase. We can obviously ask questions to the applicant, but... Board discussion? We're still under board discussion, sure. Maybe you can sit down. We might call you back up again, but you can sit down. Thank you. So discussion or motion, still on the board, discussion or motion phase?

1:18:37 – 1:19:42Speaker 11

I have something to say. So Mr. Johnson is exactly right, the way the zoning ordinance is written, there's no hardship necessarily here. However, lots of people are moving into this area, lots of businesses are moving into this area, and it's, and we would be hard pressed to say how this is gonna hurt any individuals, and a lot more people would be hurt by not having cell phone service. Also, the issue of a cell phone tower recently came back to bite us as a board, and I'm the number one don't let corporations, you know, scare you to death person, but the reality is technology has changed. So I think we need to appeal to whoever it is, the zoning board or whoever, to get this ordinance changed as soon as possible so we don't have this question again. But that's just my, that has nothing to do on today's vote, but.

1:19:42Speaker 17

I would totally agree with you on that.

1:19:45 – 1:20:30Speaker 10

And I've been thinking about this, I'm trying to address Mr. Johnston's concern. Perhaps the unique feature of this property is that we've now heard that below whatever it is, 75 feet, there's no service and because there are already carriers at the next two levels, this is the only place to go if you're going to get service or if they're going to be able to broadcast as far as, that's probably wrong term. So that may be the unique feature of this tower is that everything without extending its height is taken. So it's either extend the height 11 feet, or they go somewhere else and build it. I don't know if that's satisfying. That's a good try. That's all I got.

1:20:30 – 1:21:30Speaker 8

The other thing is whoever owns the service, they buy each other all the time. AT&T buys out T-Mobile. It may happen, but what they're doing is they're increasing the number of antennas. Whoever owns it really doesn't matter. And with the position where they're at, it doesn't really matter. It has to be above 75 feet. So they might have an agreement where the Verizon comes in at 75 and they move the other two up. We don't know that. All I know is they're trying to increase the amount of antennas to give better service. And it's in Italian. Haslet is growing. We all know Haslet. We know it's growing. And we're going to run into this again. So this is the second antenna. We're going to see more of this, and hopefully they'll be able to change some. But between now and then, I don't want to slow down progress. And I don't think it affects us either way. And there's no one else complaining at all about the aesthetics of it. No one said, I don't like the way it looks. I think this is another pretty simple decision to make for us.

1:21:32Speaker 18

And we're still open for a motion or more discussion.

1:21:34 – 1:21:55Speaker 12

I just want to voice my opinion. I can most especially approve this. I know technology is changing. My biggest support of this is because of the location of it, industrial. So if there's any kind of tower where it has to go up, then this would be it. So I can support this.

1:21:58Speaker 8

I'd like to make a motion.

1:21:59Speaker 18

Yes, sir, please.

1:22:01Speaker 8

To approve BAC-26-022 as written. Second.

1:22:06Speaker 18

Thank you. First, a motion by Mr. Garza, second by Mr. Acosta. Thank you. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

1:22:15 – 1:22:28Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAC-26-022 as requested by the applicant. Motion made by Board Member Garza and seconded by Board Member Acosta. Roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten?

1:22:29Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza?

1:22:31Speaker 29

Board Member Michael Johnston?

1:22:33Speaker 29

Board Member Bob Riley?

1:22:35 – 1:22:54Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King? No. Do you want me to come back to you? Board member Whit Wollman? Yes. Board member Jana Herrera? Yes. Board member Kay Duffy? Yes. Board member Madison Gutierrez? No. Board member Eric Ortega?

1:22:55Speaker 29

Board member Juan Manuel Acosta?

1:22:58Speaker 29

Board member Sandra King?

1:23:03Speaker 29

The motion passes.

1:23:07Speaker 18

It was nine to two, correct? Nine to two.

1:23:11 – 1:23:22Speaker 18

Ma'am, congratulations. Your motion has been approved. If you have any questions, please reach out to staff as early as tomorrow. Thank you. I believe we're going to change out. Okay, good.

1:23:25Speaker 18

Thank you, sir. Mr. Ortega, appreciate it. Mr. Whitten, do you need a minute? Okay.

1:23:39Speaker 18

So we're going to move on to the next case, DAR-26-073.

1:23:44 – 1:23:55Speaker 29

I might give a minute for them to get the... Good morning, Chair and members of the board. I would like to introduce our senior planner who joined our team this month. Her name is Gianna Bridges.

1:24:03Speaker 29

When you're ready, Gianna.

1:24:04Speaker 18

Yeah, let's give them one minute. Okay, please go ahead.

1:24:10 – 1:25:48Speaker 13

This is BAR-26-073, and this is the application. For a variance to the two-family B district development standard of minimum required lot area to allow less than the required 5,000 square feet, the minimum required lot area is 5,000 square feet. The requested lot area is 3,562.5 square feet. The address is 1311 North Jones Street, and the owner is Heck, Inc., and the applicant is Victor Cortez. VARIANCE B IS TO THE TWO FAMILY B DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARD OF THE MINIMUM REQUIRED LOT WIDTH TO ALLOW LESS THAN THE REQUIRED 50-FOOT LOT WIDTH TO THE TWO FAMILY B DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE MINIMUM REQUIRED LOT WIDTH IS 50 FEET. THE REQUESTED LOT WIDTH IS 37.5 FEET. The subject property is 3,562.5 square feet, rectangular vacant interior lot located in a redeveloping neighborhood. There are mature trees on the property. No presence of floodplain and is relatively flat. The applicant is requesting two variances in order to construct a single family home. This is the lot history. This is the proposed site plan. These are the elevations. And these are the regulations. And this is the Board of Adjustment action.

1:25:57Speaker 29

Thank you. We're available for any questions you may have.

1:26:00Speaker 18

Thank you. Any questions for staff regarding this case? Please, Ms. Duffy.

1:26:09Speaker 11

Tell me if you need me to ask the applicant instead, but I believe the parcel next door, this is a vacant lot and the parcel next door is also a vacant lot.

1:26:16Speaker 13

I didn't conduct the site visit. Emily, is the parcel next door vacant? If she doesn't remember, you may want to ask the applicant.

1:26:29Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff?

1:26:37Speaker 23

I have one. Please. What year was this plotted?

1:26:39 – 1:26:51Speaker 13

Do you know the year where this was plotted? We'll have to get back with you on that. Okay. Give me just a moment. Yeah.

1:26:57 – 1:27:21Speaker 29

There was potentially a plat for this property long ago and it has since been illegally subdivided. And so today the applicant is coming to request a variance, well two variances to allow the lot to size 37 feet wide and 3,562.5 square feet in area so they can proceed with getting plats.

1:27:22Speaker 21

And what year was it legally subdivided?

1:27:25Speaker 29

We don't have that information, but we'll look in the file to see the original plat for the property.

1:27:31Speaker 18

Yes, thank you. Any other questions for staff?

1:27:40Speaker 17

Is the adjacent property owned by the same property owner?

1:27:48Speaker 13

There may be a question for the applicant.

1:27:59 – 1:28:10Speaker 18

Okay, thank you very much. Is the applicant here? Yes, sir. Please come forward, state your name, address, and the facts about your case, and you have seven minutes.

1:28:10 – 1:30:06Speaker 22

Awesome, thank you, guys. Yes, sir. All right. Good morning, members of the board. My name is Victor Cortez, and I am representing Iraq Inc. for 1311 North Jones. We're here today to request approval for the two variances that have been presented to the board. The property is located in a two-family zoning district, has a total area of approximately 3,500 square feet. We are requesting a variance to allow us to develop a single-family home on this property. The second variance concerns the lot width. The property is 37 and a half feet wide, while the minimum required lot width is 50 feet wide. We are therefore requesting relief from that requirement so that we can develop the property as proposed. The documents and plans provided to the board represent what we are proposing to build and what we intend to use as basis for the future building permit application. And I did submit a couple of documents recently that I believe we may be able to show you guys. So if the variances are approved, we will proceed through the city's permitting process and construct the home in accordance with all applicable city of Fort Worth and state building codes and requirements. I was also asked to provide clarification regarding the driveway widths at the driveway approach. The width is approximately 14 feet and the proposed driveway itself is 16 feet wide. Additionally, the neighboring home to the right has a setback of 20 feet and the property to our left is a vacant lot. Our goal is to develop the property in the way that is consistent with the surrounding neighborhood while complying with all applicable requirements to the greatest extent possible. We believe the requested variance will allow us to make reasonable use of this property while maintaining a safe and appropriate development. We respectfully ask the board to approve the two variances so that we can move forward with the proposed single-family development. And congratulations, Ms. Bridges, on joining the team. Thank you guys for your time. If you have any questions, I am

1:30:07Speaker 18

Yeah, we'll get to questions in a minute. Your documents are up on the screen if you want to address anything or reference those.

1:30:13Speaker 22

Yes, so this shows the driveway widths. They're highlighted.

1:30:20Speaker 18

Can we zoom in on those, Ms. Reyes?

1:30:24Speaker 22

And then this is the floor plan as well. And on another sheet, I have the elevations.

1:30:44 – 1:31:03Speaker 18

Thank you. And you mentioned that you were asked to address the driveway widths? Yes, when I submitted the application.

1:31:04Speaker 22

they were asking me to clarify those.

1:31:05Speaker 18

Staff was, okay.

1:31:06Speaker 22

Not 100% sure the reasoning or whatnot, but.

1:31:11Speaker 18

Yeah, do you know why we did that?

1:31:12 – 1:31:25Speaker 29

There's a requirement that driveways cannot exceed 50% of the front yard coverage, so just getting the dimensions of the driveway allowed us to verify that they didn't need another variance for drive rate coverage.

1:31:25Speaker 18

Okay, you still have plenty of time, too, if there's anything else you wanna address on the elevations or.

1:31:30 – 1:31:49Speaker 22

Okay, and yeah, we could show the board the elevations. should be on the following pages. And this is what we're proposing to build, what we will be doing, and we meet the setback requirements as well.

1:31:54Speaker 18

Yes, sir, you still have plenty of time. If there's anything else you'd add.

1:31:56Speaker 22

I think that's it.

1:31:57 – 1:32:17Speaker 18

Okay, thank you guys. Is there anyone else here to speak in support of this application? All right, having seen none, is there anyone here to speak in opposition? Okay, having seen none, we will now move to board questions for the applicant. Ms. Duffy, sir, if you would please, please come back up.

1:32:18 – 1:32:45Speaker 11

So help me out with the ownership. It appears to me that this address in TAD actually is composed of three parcels, two of them you purchased in May. The total of the three is gonna be a little more than half an acre. The two that you purchased is more than a third of an acre. Why are you choosing to develop separately? They're all addressed as the same address, 1311.

1:32:47 – 1:33:17Speaker 22

So I was requested to submit the application for the lot 21, track two, and that's what I'm looking at now, and that's the application that I submitted for this property. My understanding was that the properties, the two properties weren't wide enough for the original plan was to put two duplexes on each lot. But according to the sizes, we can't do that. So that's why I'm requesting the variance for this property, this one lot that we're working on right now.

1:33:23 – 1:33:40Speaker 11

You could put a duplex on .36 of an acre, right? He owns .36. Does the staff question? Is there a reason you don't wanna do that?

1:33:43Speaker 22

I would have to ask, go back to the owners on this, but I believe they just wanna have more side yard, more property, not really 100% sure.

1:34:01Speaker 8

Any other questions for the applicant? Ms. Duffy, your trepidation is you don't want them to build two separate buildings?

1:34:08 – 1:34:29Speaker 11

So the zoning code says they gotta have a 50-foot build line out front. 37 feet is quite a bit smaller. He's an investor. A duplex is about as good an investment as two single-family homes. I mean, it's different, but he knew what this property was when he bought it.

1:34:31Speaker 8

We do this all the time, though.

1:34:33 – 1:34:46Speaker 8

We do this all the time. We have a shorter property and we come in here and we, you know, we make it. You're saying he doesn't have a hardship because he owns both properties. Is that a hardship?

1:34:50Speaker 11

He knew what the zoning code was when he bought the property.

1:34:54 – 1:35:52Speaker 21

I'll weigh in a little bit. So... A lot of these lots, they're smaller, originally platted, some zoned B, formerly some A5. I've personally purchased some throughout the city myself for single family development and B duplex development. The thing I've run into is if I'm subdividing a lot myself, I've created my own hardship. Now, if it is previously platted at a smaller size, I think that's what we've seen here dozens of times that it's already been smaller to begin with. We don't want to reduce someone's abilities to develop to the max on that specific property. So that was what led some of my questions earlier as to when was the property subdivided, because that will kind of shine light to was the hardship self-imposed or was it just inherited?

1:35:54 – 1:36:31Speaker 8

See, that's my question, is the will to subdivide, is that a hardship or is that a choice? Like if he wants to build two separate properties, are we okay with that or are we just going to, when he falls into the, you know, buying a property that only has 37 1⁄2 feet, as opposed to him creating that 37 and a half feet, what is the difference? I know it's he, the owners decide to build it, but it's still the same situation. Do we decide to not endorse that because he created that situation? That's my question on this council.

1:36:31 – 1:36:54Speaker 11

And my feeling, and I know that it's not always, but my feeling is the zoning code says it's supposed to be a certain size. And if he's, I do think he's, he knew what he bought. And it's not like there's another house on that other property and this is all he's got. He actually owns both of them. He's an investor that wanted to put something there.

1:36:55 – 1:37:14Speaker 28

Commissioners, this is Mirabelle. Based on my GIS map, the lot is platted 50 feet wide. The parcel is smaller than what is right now platted. So he would either have to go through platting or obtain a legal lot of record from platting.

1:37:18Speaker 11

So you're saying whatever plat is there now is null and void and he has to replat it anyway? Correct.

1:37:26 – 1:38:38Speaker 21

And I'm gonna ask some clarifying questions again. So I'm looking at this existing survey. It shows track two labeled lot 21. There's a smaller strip for lot 21. And then track one labeled lot 22. Another thing I've seen consistently is a lot of these smaller strips, it would be two 15 foot wide platted lots, and you would build a duplex right on that lot. Right here, if he owns lot 21 and 22, in essence, the subdivision of it though is an attempt to utilize lot 22 So creating two 30-foot wide lots is much more useful than a individual 50-foot wide lot and then a non-useful, I cannot see what the, is it 37 and a half feet? What is the width of lot 22 by itself?

1:38:41Speaker 22

I'm not 100% sure on here. I don't think we have those measurements.

1:38:46 – 1:39:13Speaker 21

Okay, yeah, it looks like you're splitting 60 feet. Oh, I also see 75 feet. So lot 22 looks like it's 25 feet wide. Yes, that's right on par. So lot 21 looks like it's 50 foot wide. Lot 22 is 25 feet wide. So you have 75 feet total and you're attempting to split so that you can fit two duplexes in this B zoning. Who owns the other half of lot 22?

1:39:16 – 1:39:33Speaker 22

I believe it may be the same owners. Same owner, okay. But on this, I know that we don't meet the requirements to build a duplex under the B zoning or that. Right, it's the 5,000, yeah. So they wouldn't be allowed to build a duplex here.

1:39:35Speaker 11

But you would be able to if you planted the two parcels you own.

1:39:41Speaker 22

It still would not be enough. I think the minimum square footage is 7,000 square feet.

1:39:53Speaker 21

Is it 7,500 or is it 5,000 for B? 5,000. That's what I thought. So I'm under that for the duplex.

1:40:04Speaker 22

So I went to zoning to request information on this and they basically let me know that this was a course that I should take for this property, to build on this property.

1:40:21Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant?

1:40:23Speaker 17

Do we know when the informal subdivision of this property took place?

1:40:29Speaker 22

No, sir. I have no idea.

1:40:32Speaker 18

Staff, have you all been able to track that down?

1:40:36 – 1:40:50Speaker 29

There is a plat in the docket. However, it doesn't have a date. It's a really old plat, I can tell by the look of it, but I'm not able to make out a date of when the property was originally platted.

1:40:52Speaker 21

Is that page 54?

1:40:54Speaker 29

It's page 186 of the docket. This is the meeting docket, not the late correspondence.

1:41:12 – 1:41:25Speaker 17

Okay, I'm a little bit confused, which is my address, but... Is this property currently planted as a 50-foot property?

1:41:26Speaker 21

It appears lot 21 is planted as a 50-foot wide lot currently. Is that correct, applicant?

1:41:37 – 1:42:10Speaker 22

I'm not 100% sure, but that is what it looks like. So based off the site plan here, I have track two and track one. And the track one, track two is 37 and a half feet wide here as far as on this title survey, what I read here. And portion of track one is that portion of 21 that you see here on this site plan.

1:42:24Speaker 21

Okay, thank you, Mr. Cortez. I don't think I have any other questions right now.

1:42:28Speaker 22

Thank you, sir. Thanks.

1:42:30 – 1:42:48Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. Sir, if you would please have a seat. Thank you. I'm going to close the public question of this hearing, and we'll open up to discussion among the board for this case.

1:42:54 – 1:44:05Speaker 21

I'm curious as to some perspectives on this. So we have a 50-foot wide, currently platted lot, currently buildable, as be, as is. However, the applicant is presenting full use of this lot 22. but it would require a illegal subdivision or a replat in order to create two zoned B properties that are then buildable, which would then require site setback reductions. If the applicant already owns, if the applicant's owner still owns the other half of lot 22, I'm having a hard time finding the non-self-imposed hardship, but I'm looking for if there's one there. I like the idea of maximizing the use of a 30-foot lot 22 that's not being used, but what I'm not seeing is how this isn't self-imposed.

1:44:08Speaker 22

We'll be building on lot 21.

1:44:10Speaker 18

One second, sir. Well, this is, so we're in the, this board discussion phase. If anybody, if any, no, you're fine. If any board member has questions for the applicant, we can always call the applicant back up if there's anything we feel like they need to add.

1:44:20Speaker 17

So, but please go ahead.

1:44:25 – 1:45:03Speaker 11

So, yeah, not, not our job to change the zoning code, which is, you know, in the case we just had, right? Um, We overlooked it somewhat because we don't want people without cell service. But in this case, if we overlook the zoning code, we make this one investor richer off two properties that he found out there that he thought he could subdivide. Two parcels on one address. It's been operating as one address.

1:45:06Speaker 8

Is that what this is?

1:45:09Speaker 11

He knew that when he invested in it?

1:45:13 – 1:45:27Speaker 8

We agreed some time ago that the standards of 50 feet at some point would have to be addressed because the city is getting bigger. There's more people and we're going to have to be more accepting into smaller real estate properties.

1:45:27Speaker 11

That's beyond our purview to change the zoning code on what an A5 property is.

1:45:33 – 1:46:26Speaker 8

No, but we do. have variances that we have accepted many, many times in the past that were not self-imposed. That's the only thing different in this case is it's self-imposed. And my question is, are we willing to overlook that, that it's a self-imposed hardship because he wants to make a second house for profit? And if you look at the property, it's been empty for years. Someone finally came in and was going to build a house there, and it's really close to the stockyards. I don't see this as a negative thing. The only thing that my question is, when we run into this again, are we going to... Someone buys other lots. We've seen that before also. They're trying to get the most out of their investment. I don't think that is a crime.

1:46:30Speaker 10

I'm struggling with...

1:46:31 – 1:47:05Speaker 11

Some people that come here are trying to get the most out of investment by building a taller fence or by doing all sorts of things. I don't know. I think in this particular case, I mean, a taller fence later, you could always pull that down. But in this particular case, we're talking about building houses really, really close together when our zoning code does not currently allow for that. A5 is pretty cut and dried what size it is. And unless he has a true hardship, I don't feel like we ought to let him just get away with making more money off his land.

1:47:07Speaker 10

I'm struggling with, and this is a question for staff, the applicant said he was told he could not build a duplex.

1:47:15 – 1:47:28Speaker 18

I kind of have the same question. I mean, we can call him back up too, but he said he went to the zoning somewhere office and they told him. Mr. Whitten, do you want to call him back up? Yeah, would you? Sir, if you would, yeah, come back up.

1:47:28 – 1:47:39Speaker 10

Clarify, were you told and who told you that you could not use this? So what was it you could not use as a duplex?

1:47:39Speaker 22

Basically the, so this property is not, the width of the property doesn't meet the requirements.

1:47:45Speaker 10

Okay, when we say the property, what are we talking about? Just that one lot or?

1:47:49Speaker 22

Yes, that lot.

1:47:51Speaker 10

Well, prior to, I mean, your client owns both lots, correct?

1:48:00 – 1:48:12Speaker 10

And so it's, so your client could not build a duplex on, one duplex on both lots, I guess it would require replat, but is...

1:48:13Speaker 22

Correct. So they told me that we cannot build a duplex on this property that I brought to them.

1:48:21 – 1:48:33Speaker 10

So they... Well, I understand you can't build a duplex on this smaller lot that you're requesting exemption from, but that's why I think some of us are struggling. It's like...

1:48:34Speaker 10

Your client came in and bought... Did your client make them two lots or were they already two lots?

1:48:42Speaker 22

They were already two lots or just like it is here.

1:48:45 – 1:49:04Speaker 21

Yes, two lots. It appears that lot 22 is a separate lot than lot 21. And when combining both of them together, he has a combined 75 feet, which he's then trying to split in half for two useful... lots to maintain a B zoning, but then would both need variances.

1:49:08Speaker 10

So when the next lot, 21 or 22, they'd have to come back and again ask for a variance?

1:49:16 – 1:49:39Speaker 10

To build a house on that lot? Okay. Okay. So is it substantially different that they're going to come back to us and ask for a variance on that second lot to build similar house, or saying, no, you can't do that. You must use one lot to build a duplex or a bigger house or whatever.

1:49:42Speaker 12

So they could use both lots 21 and 22 to build a duplex, which is zone four, correct?

1:49:49Speaker 21

To my knowledge, the zoning allows for a duplex on lot 21 individually. It just makes 22 fully unuseful. Is that correct, staff?

1:49:59Speaker 12

But he's saying that lot 21 is around 3,700-ish square feet.

1:50:09Speaker 21

That would be lot 21, track 2, as proposed in this adjusted survey.

1:50:16 – 1:50:33Speaker 12

Well, the one that's come before us. So that one alone wouldn't be able to have a duplex, but both lots that he bought, 21 and 22, he could. He's just choosing to split the lots, is what I'm understanding, correct?

1:50:35 – 1:50:46Speaker 21

How I'm reading it is, so the survey we see in front of us, you see there's two 21s? That's one lot right now, as is. Is that correct, Mr. Cortez?

1:50:48 – 1:51:02Speaker 22

My understanding is that partial of that lot 21 next to 22, that's track one. And the right side of this where it says 21 track two, that's one lot.

1:51:03Speaker 22

So partial of lot 21 is on track one. Yes.

1:51:11Speaker 11

Can you blow that up?

1:51:21Speaker 22

So again, we did want to build a duplex here, but we were told we could not. So that's why they said, hey, you could do this, request a variance and build on lot 21.

1:51:32 – 1:52:42Speaker 28

So on this survey, what's labeled as 21, whether it's the big piece and the small piece, that is how it is plotted. But he only owns the larger tract that says 21. The small portion, and I know this is going to get really confusing, the smaller tract labeled 21 is owned by the person that it shows on there as 22 as well. So he owns all those three tracts, but... the way it was split years before this person, I don't know when, currently 21, the big portion, that is how it is split. And again, I know it's very confusing, but both lots or both tracts that are labeled 21, that is the way it is platted, currently platted. At one point, the big portion 21, the small portion 21 and 22 could have been owned by two different people because they were subdivided without replatting.

1:52:44Speaker 21

Okay, yes, thank you for that clarity.

1:52:47Speaker 11

So which part does Ricardo Salazar own currently?

1:52:53Speaker 28

He owns all of that property right there.

1:52:55Speaker 18

21 and 22, or are you saying all?

1:52:58Speaker 28

Yes, 21 and 22.

1:53:00Speaker 11

Wait, so which part does Hack Inc. own?

1:53:05Speaker 22

I think Ricardo Salazar is the owner to the right.

1:53:10Speaker 11

You're saying 22?

1:53:10Speaker 22

Of that. Hack Inc. owns 21 and 22, all of that there. What's on this survey?

1:53:20Speaker 11

He owns the little 21 and 22.

1:53:23 – 1:53:48Speaker 28

And then that portion of 22. Correct. However, what makes it even more confusing is that the lot below, or that you can't no longer see, he has a portion of 22 as well. That's the reason 22 is so small. He who?

1:53:50Speaker 22

Ricardo Salazar.

1:53:51Speaker 28

Ricardo Salazar, at the very bottom of that survey, that right there, he owns a portion of that 22.

1:54:01Speaker 11

But not all of it? No.

1:54:04Speaker 22

We own the other half.

1:54:05Speaker 28

This gentleman owes the other portion. Again, they've been subdivided through the years.

1:54:13Speaker 11

But they've been operating as one address, a vacant piece of property. since Mr. Salazar bought it in 2003, right?

1:54:21Speaker 28

Well, when you say operating under TAD, they are under one ownership. That doesn't make it one large lot.

1:54:28Speaker 11

Correct. It's not the same address. All the parcels have one address.

1:54:33Speaker 28

Yes, because he may have chosen to just receive one tax bill.

1:54:37Speaker 21

Yeah, that's a request that you can just send TAD something and say, hey, combine my tax accounts. It's irrelevant to... Fort Worth City zoning?

1:54:53 – 1:55:06Speaker 21

What legal, this might be a question, when, what is it, 1958, if something was illegally subdivided prior to, it holds up its original zoning?

1:55:07Speaker 18

Trey, do you know the?

1:55:08Speaker 6

No, it depends on when the zoning was put in place on the property. It's not necessarily a single date for all zoning.

1:55:21Speaker 7

So the action we're taking today only affects track two? Yes.

1:55:28Speaker 18

So just 21. That's my question too, is we're literally just looking at lot 21.

1:55:33 – 1:55:46Speaker 7

I would feel a lot more comfortable if we were looking at both of them. Because otherwise, I mean, then you could be a, it could be a duplex site with a common wall.

1:55:48Speaker 29

If the board chooses to continue this case, we can work with the applicant to submit a new application for the second lot.

1:55:58 – 1:56:43Speaker 7

I'm leaning toward that. I'm just uncomfortable with us taking action on the new 21 or track two. And then at some subsequent date, someone comes in and needs the same variance or the remainder of 21 and all of 22, which might now be a portion of. 22. The property to the south. So if it's truly a development for duplex or single family, I'd rather be looking at both of them and not painting a future board into a corner that they can't.

1:56:45Speaker 18

Legal, are we just focused on 21 or on this case? Or can we?

1:56:56 – 1:57:16Speaker 6

You could continue the case. The applicant may not be interested in the variance on the 22 portion. You can certainly ask him about that, but you may not be interested in in seeking a variance for that portion, but.

1:57:17Speaker 7

But you bought yours from Ricardo, right?

1:57:23Speaker 22

Not exactly sure who the property was bought from.

1:57:29 – 1:57:44Speaker 22

But that Ricardo Salazar person there owns the property, the other portion that you cannot see here. He owns this area here. Corona owns this. And then we own, again, track two and track one.

1:57:46 – 1:58:09Speaker 10

And apparently, Mr. Saadzar owns part of 22. At least that's what we heard today. Would you have interest in, I mean, I think you can hear what's going on, the struggle we're having. So there's been the suggestion that we continue this. And you're... your client come back with an application so that we're taking care of 21 and 22?

1:58:11 – 1:58:28Speaker 22

Absolutely. I would definitely bring this back to the owner and let him know, but I think that would be something that he would be interested in for sure. If that's an option or getting track two approved and then getting track one approved at a later date or whatever it is that we can do.

1:58:32 – 1:58:58Speaker 10

Well, it's just, I think the way we look at it, or some of us look at it, is that we're going to be back here again regardless. Because even if we approved this today, the owner's going to have to come back later and get something approved for 22. So why not do them all at once? Okay. I think it's easier for the board to grasp or to feel comfortable about doing something. Okay, here's how this is going to be handled.

1:58:59Speaker 18

Yeah, I think you can kind of hear the tone of we're trying to figure it out too. So if you're willing to continue this and go back and work with city staff and talk to the owner and we can look at this again.

1:59:10 – 1:59:28Speaker 7

I've got one other question of staff. Looking at the elevation that he's proposing, you know, this house is going to read as a garage. Is there a regulation that limits the square footage of the face of the building being garage?

1:59:32Speaker 18

You mean street-facing?

1:59:34Speaker 7

Yeah. Zoning?

1:59:38Speaker 22

I know minimum I would need the two-car garage for this.

1:59:44Speaker 7

Okay, there was some discussion years ago about swing garages that could help mitigate that feel and look of a building being a garage.

1:59:55Speaker 18

Right up there, right.

1:59:56Speaker 7

Okay. I'm just curious. Thanks, sir. You can sit down.

2:00:00Speaker 22

Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

2:00:02Speaker 18

So we'll go back to kind of board discussion and or a motion.

2:00:05 – 2:01:34Speaker 21

Yes, sir, please. So looking at TAD, I can see where this larger portion of lot 21, its legal description is lot 21 and north 37 feet, half of 21. So it's clearly stated, that larger track 21 is clearly stated as an individual lot in TAD. And then when I go to the combined 21 and 22 here, south 12 feet, north 25 feet of lot 22. So these are individually separated parcels at the time, which per staff mentioning, they were illegally subdivided at some point. But overall, I think I like the plans that the applicant has brought forth. I think the maximum use of creating two duplexes next to each other is a great plan for this. It creates full use of lot 22. I think I'm in agreement with Mr. Riley on if it came back that both were addressed at the same time, or it was very clear. I think that just makes it very easy that it wasn't self-imposed. They inherited this this way.

2:01:38Speaker 18

Thank you. Any other discussion or a motion?

2:01:44Speaker 11

I'll make a motion to continue and let this gentleman work with staff and get some further detail.

2:01:49Speaker 18

I second. Second by who? John King.

2:01:53Speaker 16

Oh, Ms. King beat you.

2:01:54Speaker 18

Okay, good. Motion by Ms. Duffy and a second by Ms. King. Staff, do we please perform a roll call vote?

2:02:05Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion for case BAR-26-073 to continue this case. Ms. Duffy, did you want to continue it to next month's meeting?

2:02:18Speaker 11

30? 30 days. Next meeting, yes. Next month.

2:02:21Speaker 7

If it's a revised application, it would take 60 days.

2:02:29Speaker 29

Well, due to the proposed plat, if it's the same, then staff can handle doing it with the 30-day continuance.

2:02:40 – 2:02:53Speaker 29

Okay, so we have a motion to continue case BAR-26-073 to next month's meeting. Motion made by Board Member Duffy and second by Board Member King. Roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten?

2:02:54Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza?

2:02:56Speaker 29

Board Member Michael Johnston?

2:02:58Speaker 29

Board member Bob Riley.

2:03:00Speaker 29

Board member Sandra King.

2:03:02Speaker 29

Board member Whit Wollman.

2:03:04Speaker 29

Board member Jana Herrera.

2:03:06Speaker 29

Board member Lucretia Powell.

2:03:08Speaker 29

Board member Kay Duffy. Yes. Board member Madison Gutierrez.

2:03:13Speaker 29

Board member Eric Ortega. I'm sorry. Board member Juan Manuel Acosta.

2:03:17Speaker 29

The motion passes.

2:03:20 – 2:03:36Speaker 18

Okay, sir. So we're going to continue it for the next 30 days to the next meeting. But if you, could you please start working with staff as early as tomorrow, addressing a lot of the questions that we have. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay, let's move to the next case. BAR-26-077. Staff, we're ready when you are.

2:03:47 – 2:06:20Speaker 27

The next item on the agenda is BAR-26-077, located at 808 Oak Grove. The property owner is Norman Allen Cynthia Taff, with the applicant being Matt Kelly. The property is zoned A-5, one family district. The applicant is requesting a variance to the requirement that accessory structures shall not be greater in square footage than the primary structure to allow a detached garage slash shop to exceed the square footage of the primary structure. The maximum allowed square feet allowed is 2,073 square feet and the applicant is requesting 2,400 square feet. The subject property contains a single family home as a primary use and is located on an interior lot in an established neighborhood. The lot is rectangular in shape and was plotted without an alley. The property is relatively flat and contains an approximate average slope of less than 1% and the property is approximately 3.2 acres and contains several mature trees and is not located within a floodplain. The applicant is requesting a residential accessory new permit to install a garage, which is pending the outcome of this case. The applicant is requesting a variance to allow an accessory structure, which is a garage slash shop, to exceed the square footage of the primary structure. Section 5.3002 states accessory structure shall not be greater in square footage than the primary structure. A garage is defined in our city ordinance as a space in a principal building or an accessory building on the same lot used for the shelter or storage for occupant-owned motor vehicles as an accessory use only. The applicant proposes to construct a detached garage measuring 30 feet wide by 80 feet long resulting in a footprint of approximately 2,400 square feet. The proposed structure will have an overall height of 15 feet 9 inches, and according to the site plan submitted, the proposed garage will have a driveway leading up to the garage to be located off of Oak Grove Road. The existing lot coverage is approximately 4.24%, and if the proposed garage is approved, the lot coverage would increase to approximately 5.97%, which remains well below the maximum permitted lot coverage of 50% allowed within the zoning district. If the variance requests are approved, the applicant will be required to meet all other development standards and regulations. These are the regulations that pertain to the case. These are the board's actions and this concludes staff's presentation and I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

2:06:21Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Questions for staff?

2:06:34Speaker 11

Okay, I have a really silly one. Oak Grove Road, this actually comes up as a Burleson address, is that true? That's correct.

2:06:48 – 2:07:17Speaker 18

Any other questions? Okay, thank you, Mr. Reyes. Is the applicant here? Yes, sir, or yes, please come forward, sure. Please come forward, state your name, address, and the facts about your case, and you'll have seven minutes.

2:07:20 – 2:07:43Speaker 20

I think I need seven minutes, but my name's Matt Kelly, Projects 808 East Oak Grove. And basically, my customer's retiring, he has a, shop elsewhere that he's been in business for years. He's accumulated a few classic cars that he wants to move in to the new shop and that's why we need the size of it.

2:07:45Speaker 18

Okay. You still have plenty of time if there's anything else you want to add or if your clients would like to speak as well. Please state your name.

2:07:53 – 2:08:37Speaker 2

Yes, sir. Norman Taft, live at the location 8080 Grove. Yes, folks, trying to close business down. I've been to since 1981. I've got my classic cars and stuff, and I'm just trying to liquidate and get everything cleaned up and build a nice building back there and make it all look nice and all that kind of stuff. Trying to liquidate down and just turn 70 years old and trying to get it all in one spot and clean up and all that kind of stuff and make it look nice. I've been there 30 years. at their address, so just trying to get everything all in one spot. Like a man cave and make it look nice and all that kind of stuff.

2:08:37Speaker 18

Sure, I understand.

2:08:39Speaker 2

Yes, sir. Thank y'all.

2:08:40Speaker 18

Sure, you still have plenty of time if there's anybody else that'd like to speak. Okay, thank you.

2:08:47 – 2:09:15Speaker 18

Yes, sir. Is there anyone else that would like to speak in support of this case? All right, having seen none, anyone that would like to speak in opposition? Okay, also having seen none, I will now open it up to board questions for the applicant. Any questions for? Sure, Ms. Duffy, go ahead.

2:09:16Speaker 11

Is there a neighborhood association, have we had any contact or not?

2:09:20Speaker 18

Staff, do we have any documentation from a neighborhood association or late correspondence?

2:09:25Speaker 29

We did not receive any late correspondence on this case.

2:09:32Speaker 18

Mr. Riley, is your question?

2:09:34 – 2:09:52Speaker 7

Yeah, it's a question of staff. I noticed on the site plan that there's a frame building and two metal buildings, I assume that are existing. Does that go into the total of what's being proposed here?

2:09:54Speaker 29

So staff calculated that as a part of the total lot coverage and this site did not exceed that.

2:10:00Speaker 7

No, I meant for as...

2:10:03 – 2:10:23Speaker 29

For the garage, since it is a garage and the intent is to store owner's own vehicles, the garage is not considered as non-habitable accessory area. So there's not a limit for the garage. It just can't exceed the size of the primary structure. And so the applicant is requesting to do that.

2:10:24Speaker 7

Or you could do another one too.

2:10:28 – 2:10:43Speaker 29

If it is a garage and the intent is to store owner's own vehicles and they don't exceed lock up, no, he cannot do another one. Another garage would further expand the 2,400 square feet.

2:10:43Speaker 7

So the frame building and the two metal buildings are not part of anything other than lock coverage.

2:10:53Speaker 29

That's correct.

2:10:54Speaker 7

He could put more metal buildings out here.

2:10:59 – 2:11:13Speaker 29

Until he, if it's a non-habitable accessory structure, there is a limit. I think for the lot his size, there's like 2%. So as long as he doesn't exceed the 2% area allowed for non-habitable accessory structures.

2:11:14 – 2:11:39Speaker 5

Thank you. I have a question for the applicant. Can you clarify what will go into the garage? Cars. I understand that. But when the owner mentioned liquidate, what is he liquidating? And clarify that whole statement.

2:11:41Speaker 2

Yes, ma'am. No, I'm cleaning up my place I'm coming from. I'm moving out of a 5,000 square foot building that I've had since the 80s.

2:11:50Speaker 5

So are you taking the cars from there, bringing them to the new place?

2:11:54Speaker 2

Yes, ma'am, 55 cars, 55 Chevys, pick all my old cars that are running cars, tagged and running cars.

2:12:00Speaker 5

And are they your cars?

2:12:02Speaker 2

Yes, ma'am. Okay. I've got 10 cars.

2:12:04Speaker 5

Okay, so when you said liquidate, so are you trying to get rid of the inventory now to bring?

2:12:11Speaker 2

No, ma'am, I'm liquidating stuff at my prior shop, cleaning up.

2:12:17Speaker 5

Not the cars.

2:12:18 – 2:12:29Speaker 2

No, ma'am, not the cars. No, they're all running cars and stuff. I go to car shows and all that kind of stuff. They're all, you know, tagged and run some running cars. They expected everything.

2:12:29Speaker 5

Okay. I was just confused about whether when you say liquidate, I'm thinking contents or the cars.

2:12:37 – 2:12:48Speaker 2

No, I'm liquidating. I'm sorry. I'm liquidating contents of where I'm coming from. Okay. From 81, you know what I'm saying? Cleaning up and everything like that. Yes, ma'am.

2:12:49Speaker 5

Getting rid of junk.

2:12:52Speaker 2

An automotive shop, you know what I'm saying?

2:12:58Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant?

2:13:03 – 2:13:28Speaker 11

So... In order to get rid of 325 square feet approximately, the building that you have on there currently is a 30 by 80. So you would either have to make it, it looks like about seven and a half feet shorter, or maybe, what did I just calculate? Six feet skinnier.

2:13:28 – 2:14:05Speaker 2

Yes, ma'am. The building kit that I bought is 30 by 60, 30 by 80s, 30 by 100s. So we went with the 30 by 80. And then by the time I put a room on the north end of it, a little room to go in or whatever, where the windows are, we'll only have a 60 by 30 building then. 20-foot room on one end, 20 by 30. So by the... You know what I'm saying? By the time I'll only have a 30 by 60 building actually inside for cars.

2:14:05Speaker 11

So you're constrained by the sizes that are sold from the metal building company. Yes, ma'am. And so you can't just lose four feet on the side. You're talking 20 feet difference between sizes.

2:14:15 – 2:14:34Speaker 2

It's just the kit they sell. The kit they sell, you know, prefabricated. This is the concrete man for the buildings company. Does the slabs and stuff. Why he's been helping me get through this. Why I'm in front of y'all today.

2:14:38Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant?

2:14:50 – 2:15:03Speaker 18

So if you all would have a seat. Stay close in case we're gonna open up for discussion among the board and I close the public portion, but we might have more questions over here. So I'll open up now for a discussion among the board and or a motion.

2:15:04Speaker 11

I might have a question for staff really quick. Was this like ETJ? Did this just recently become Fort Worth?

2:15:14Speaker 1

Not quite sure.

2:15:15Speaker 29

Give us one second to confirm.

2:15:20Speaker 11

The gentleman, I think, purchased this property in 97. Has it become Fort Worth since he owned it?

2:15:38Speaker 8

While they're looking at that, a second question, does it change anything if he calls the portion where he's going to make his man cave a living area? Would that change anything?

2:15:47 – 2:16:04Speaker 29

It could potentially change. We did ask the applicant for a floor plan of the site to see if it was anything other than area to store vehicles, and they said that it wasn't. So we're just learning that there will be a room, and we don't know the extent of the room.

2:16:05Speaker 8

I have a question for the applicant. Please go ahead.

2:16:08Speaker 18

Sir, if you would come back up.

2:16:10 – 2:16:21Speaker 8

This building that you're installing, sir, I'm Sergio Garza. Yes, sir. The building you're installing, is it going to be a tall building? Will it be able to... No, sir.

2:16:21 – 2:16:32Speaker 2

The walls are 12 foot. The building, I think, to the peak is 15. It's the same as my house. It'll all line up. It looks right with all that.

2:16:32Speaker 8

You have a certain amount of vehicles you need to fit in your garage.

2:16:37Speaker 8

Would you consider... lift and the car under the lift?

2:16:41Speaker 2

I'll probably put a lift on one end of it on the south south end of it yeah where I could park too. Yes sir. Okay.

2:16:48 – 2:17:03Speaker 7

I have another question and it's maybe a hypothetical. If he was to add my math is 300 plus square feet to his main residence he wouldn't be here correct?

2:17:04Speaker 29

That is correct.

2:17:11Speaker 10

Or he could build two 1,200 square foot buildings.

2:17:14Speaker 11

That includes like a covered porch in the backyard?

2:17:19Speaker 8

Or his man cave could be 300 square feet.

2:17:23Speaker 29

So a covered porch does not serve as habitable area, so it would have to be a true addition to the building.

2:17:30Speaker 11

Screened in porch on his house?

2:17:36 – 2:18:03Speaker 29

If the... If the... Potentially, we'll have to look at it. It depends on how the structure is supported by the primary structure. If it's independent on columns, then no, it would not serve as an addition. If it is attached to the main house with ledgers and brackets, whatever building code stuff, then potentially it could serve as an addition to the primary structure.

2:18:09 – 2:18:26Speaker 11

What I feel like is kind of going on here, Sarah, is we're all trying to help you out with your retirement. It seems like you have the means to do a little upgrading out there. Would you like to talk to the city?

2:18:27 – 2:18:43Speaker 29

Ms. Duffy, if I can just stop you for a second. The applicant has come before us today to request a variance that is outlined in BAR-26-077. I would like to request the board to focus on the action that's before us today.

2:18:43Speaker 11

So what I'm asking him is if he's interested in us continuing the case where you can go talk to the city and see if there are other ways that we can help you out.

2:18:54 – 2:19:09Speaker 2

I think we may have already have. My man here has. But I have that enclosed patio that's got heat in there. It's insulated. And more of the square footage of my house to try to get this approved through y'all.

2:19:09Speaker 10

You know, I don't have a problem with this. I mean, it's...

2:19:15Speaker 11

It's not going to hurt his neighbors.

2:19:16 – 2:19:56Speaker 10

Well, it's not going to hurt the neighbors. He could have built two 1,200 square foot buildings and he wouldn't be here, but we'd What's the point of that? I mean, if you look at the aerial, a lot of his neighbors already have buildings, outbuildings as big as their houses, they appear to. Again, I think he's gone through the process and we don't know the answer. I mean, maybe he's owned this property since before Fort Worth had incorporated it. I don't know, but that could be a potential hardship. This didn't exist. This requirement didn't exist when he bought the property. I have no trouble supporting this one.

2:19:56Speaker 8

Neither do I.

2:20:00Speaker 18

Any other discussion or motion? Y'all feel free to sit down. We'll call you back up. Thank you.

2:20:05Speaker 29

Ms. Duffy, to answer your question about the annexation, we were not able to confirm. There are some technical difficulties going on with our maps today.

2:20:21 – 2:20:38Speaker 11

He has almost three and a half acres out there. I think he's probably been planning this as his retirement for a while. I don't think he's gonna hurt his neighbors. On the other hand, it's a strict reading of the zoning code. It doesn't exactly match. So whatever way we can help him, I'm for.

2:20:43Speaker 21

I had a quick question for Mr. Taft again. How much of the space did you say was gonna be like a small little office?

2:20:52 – 2:21:05Speaker 2

I'm debating on whether it's 15 foot down, 30 foot, 15 or 20. I'm not sure until I see with the building up. I don't know if I need that much room. You know what I'm saying? I need 20 foot.

2:21:05Speaker 21

So you're looking at 450 to 600 square feet.

2:21:07 – 2:21:19Speaker 2

It's the room to go sit down in and take a nap in, more or less. But I put my whatnots and stuff like that in there. Thank you. All right. Thank you all.

2:21:23Speaker 10

Any other discussion or motion? Yes, sir, Mr. Whitten. I'll make a motion that we approve BAR-26-077 as submitted.

2:21:31Speaker 18

Thank you, sir. Motion by Mr. Whitten, second by Mr. Garza. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

2:21:39 – 2:21:52Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAR-26-077 as requested by the applicant. Motion made by Board Member Jim Whitten and second by Board Member Sergio Garza. Roll call vote, Board Member Jim Whitten.

2:21:53Speaker 29

Board member Sergio Garza? Yes. Board member Michael Johnston?

2:21:57Speaker 29

Board member Bob Riley?

2:22:01Speaker 29

Board member Sandra King?

2:22:04Speaker 29

Board member Whit Wollman?

2:22:06Speaker 29

Board member Jana Herrera?

2:22:08 – 2:22:20Speaker 29

Board member Lucretia Powell? Yes. Board member Kay Duffy? Yes. Board member Madison Gutierrez? Yes. Board member Juan Manuel Costa? Yes. The motion passes.

2:22:20Speaker 17

Nine to two, correct.

2:22:22Speaker 29

That is correct.

2:22:23Speaker 18

Sir, your application has been approved. Should you have any questions or questions for staff or need anything, please reach out as early as tomorrow.

2:22:30Speaker 2

Thank you, folks. Thank you all, y'all. Thank you.

2:22:35 – 2:22:53Speaker 18

I was going to stop and see if you might need a five-minute break, or do you want to keep going? Keep going? All right, let's keep going. Next case, BAR-26-070. Ms. Reyes, we're ready when you are.

2:22:54 – 2:25:05Speaker 27

The property is located at 1701 Valdeque Lane. The property owner and applicant being Ferreiro Mariam. The property is zoned A-43, one family district. Applicant is requesting a variance to the one family a dash 43 district development standard Requiring a minimum side your setback at 25 feet to allow construction of a detached garage With the shop to encroach into the side your setback along the western property line the applicant is requesting that the setback be 15 feet and The subject property contains a single family home as a primary use and is located on a corner lot in an established neighborhood. The subject property is trapezoid in shape and was plotted with no alley access. The lot contains several mature trees and is not located within a floodplain. The primary structure is approximately 5,116 square feet in size and contains an attached garage. There is a current residential addition permit for a garage, which is pending the outcome of this case. A garage is defined in our city ordinance as a space in a principal building or an accessory building on the same lot used for the shelter or storage of occupant-owned motor vehicles as an accessory use only. The applicant proposes to construct a detached garage measuring approximately 30 feet wide by 50 feet long, resulting in a footprint of approximately 1,500 square feet. The proposed structure, including the shop, will have an overall height of 16 feet, and the proposed garage will have a driveway leading up to the garage to be located off of Valdecailing. The variance request is to allow a detached garage with a shop to be located 15 feet from the western side property line, resulting in an encroachment into the required side yard setback. The proposed garage and shop will result in an overall lot coverage of 10%, increased from approximately 8%. The A-43 district lot has a 30% maximum lot coverage. And if the variance request is approved, the applicant will be required to meet all other development standards and regulations. These are the regulations that pertain to this case. And these are the board's actions. And this concludes staff's presentation. And I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

2:25:06 – 2:25:36Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Questions for staff? Could you go back to the elevations or just the images, like street view images? So it looks like we have some slope and some variation of height in the lot, maybe unique shape in the way the structure's sitting there as well. Do you know if this is the only place they could put it? Did the applicant talk about that? Do you know anything they've looked around?

2:25:36Speaker 27

You would have to ask the applicant.

2:25:38Speaker 18

Okay. And all the concrete coverage, extra driveway, we're really here just looking at the side yard setback. Everything else is covered?

2:25:46Speaker 4

Correct. Okay.

2:25:48Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff? No questions. Staff, you put your mic up.

2:25:57 – 2:26:25Speaker 11

Do we have a site plan on this one? So what we're seeing to the left of the garage in this picture is a little stub of a street, right?

2:26:30Speaker 21

No, it looks like that's to the west of the house adjacent to an abutting property line.

2:26:38Speaker 11

There's no house there, it's a stub.

2:26:41Speaker 21

It's a vacant lot per Google aerial right now.

2:26:51Speaker 27

The street cuts off right next to it. It's like a ditch area.

2:26:59Speaker 11

I guess we can ask the applicant more what it looks like, huh?

2:27:03Speaker 21

Yeah, no questions.

2:27:10 – 2:27:26Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff? Okay. Thank you, Ms. Rice. Is the applicant here? Yes. Please come forward. Please state your name, address, and the facts about your case, and you'll have seven minutes.

2:27:30 – 2:28:37Speaker 1

Good morning, members of the board. My name is Mariam Ferreiro. Our address is 1701 Valdeque Lane, Hazlitt, Texas, 77052. And we're requesting a variance to allow construction of a 3550-foot detached shop. Adjacent to the home the request is based on the unique configuration of the property Which includes an irregular lot shape exists in home placement? curved frontage and setback requirements that leave very little usable building area The shop has been carefully located to minimize the requested variance while remaining outside utility easements and preserving the character of the neighborhood The building will be professionally constructed on a concrete slab using quality materials that complement the home. Our goal is simply to make reasonable use of the property in a manner that is safe, attractive, and respectful to the neighbors.

2:28:40Speaker 18

Thank you. You still have plenty of time if there's anything else you want to add.

2:28:44 – 2:29:17Speaker 23

My name is Derek Law. You guys were asking about the lot next door, screen view to the left. There is a new house with the shop built on that, so it is occupied. And that house and shop does stand at a taller elevation than ours. And those pictures of the house are pretty deceiving. It's not that much of an elevation change from the road up to the house, but the way that that picture shows, it looks... It's probably six feet from the road to the bottom of the foundation of the house. I have a question.

2:29:17Speaker 18

Yeah, one second. We'll get to questions in a minute, but... Yeah, one second. You still have plenty of time. If there's anything else you want to add.

2:29:24Speaker 23

I don't think we have anything else to add. Okay. I'm just trying to build a shop to get out of a storage unit and bring the boat to the shop and project cars, you know.

2:29:34 – 2:29:51Speaker 18

Sure, yeah. Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone else here to speak in support of this case? Okay, seeing none. Anyone here to speak in opposition? Okay, also seeing none. I'll open it up to board questions for the applicant. Yes, sir, Mr. Acosta.

2:29:51Speaker 30

So have you contacted the neighbor immediately to have any approval?

2:29:57Speaker 23

Yes, they were submitted with the paperwork. All of the neighbors in the surrounding area have written off and signed and said they're okay with it.

2:30:09 – 2:31:02Speaker 12

I have a question. Please. So I understand by looking at the layout here of how the home sits on the property. Can you advise why you cannot move that garage back so it can meet the proper setback? You look like you have ample space to extend the driveway further back and maybe curve that i know you can't curve a garage but set it a little differently so that you meet the setback meaning closer to the house or further back into where the the aerobic septic system is well so that you're not asking for a variance so i'm asking what's the challenge of meeting the setback so you don't have to seek the variance then the shop would basically be

2:31:04Speaker 23

sitting right up against the house and where the septic system works, I guess.

2:31:12Speaker 18

You can draw, you can draw with your finger on that screen.

2:31:14Speaker 23

Okay, well which, which area, you meaning setback this way?

2:31:19 – 2:31:40Speaker 12

So right now you're asking, it's for a side setback. So to prevent you from having to have a setback, You have plenty to the eye. Now, I don't know what's in your backyard. That's what my question is. Why can't you move that garage where you don't need to ask for the variance of the setback, side yard setback?

2:31:41Speaker 23

Well, there's an area that has our air conditioners and a propane tank in there.

2:31:46 – 2:32:02Speaker 12

I see that, but bringing the garage back further to the back part of the lot and moving it kind of toward the house, but where it would come back and you're not as close to your AC, your propane, so that way you don't need a variance.

2:32:04Speaker 23

I guess I'm not understanding.

2:32:05Speaker 12

Okay, so if you take your garage and you move it to the back of the lot.

2:32:10Speaker 23

You're meaning where the arrow is pointing south? Closer to the pond?

2:32:18 – 2:32:29Speaker 12

Yes. And that way you have more space to bring it in and you don't need a variance, because you have quite a large backyard.

2:32:29 – 2:32:44Speaker 23

The cost of concrete to move the driveway, so moving the shop back, that means more than $40,000 concrete to move it.

2:32:44Speaker 11

Where is your aerobic septic placed right now in that backyard?

2:32:51Speaker 23

It's pretty much that whole area right there.

2:32:57Speaker 21

That's where the backyard drops off also, about where the word proposed is. Is that accurate? Where do you see the slope starting?

2:33:10 – 2:33:32Speaker 23

It's pretty straight and level to where the aerobic sprinklers are, and then it drops down to the pond. This is the pond down here. So, again, the reason why I was asking for the variance up here is so we're not having to buy so much concrete if we were to move it back.

2:33:38Speaker 7

Any other questions for the applicant? Is there a sanitary sewer available in your neighborhood?

2:33:47 – 2:33:59Speaker 8

Your neighbors all signed, said they were okay with this? Yes, sir. And also, I noticed in the aerial shot, a lot of your neighbors are very similar. Their secondary buildings are also very close to the property lines.

2:33:59Speaker 23

Correct. I wouldn't be the only one, yes.

2:34:04 – 2:34:43Speaker 18

Ms. Herrera, do you have more questions? No. Ms. Duffy? Any other questions for the applicant? No. Okay, thanks, sir. Yeah, please have a seat. We might, we're gonna open up to board discussion, but we might have more questions for you in a minute. I'll close the public portion of the hearing and open it up to board discussion. And I'll say that I don't have a problem with this. I kind of see what their point is, especially with the shape of the lot, the slope, septic field.

2:34:45 – 2:35:04Speaker 7

I agree. mainly due to the hardship of no sanitary sewer in the neighborhood and having to rely on a septic system that couldn't be interfered with. It was moved back further. So I'll be able to support this.

2:35:05 – 2:35:17Speaker 8

And the third factor, as you look on the aerial view, almost every other house has some sort of secondary structure very close to the property lines in that neighborhood and the signatures.

2:35:19 – 2:35:39Speaker 17

I can support this application because of the slope of the property. I think that's a characteristic of the property, and that's what the requirement of variance is, is that you show a characteristic of the property not caused by the property owner, and that's what we have here in my view.

2:35:41Speaker 18

Any other discussion or motion?

2:35:43 – 2:35:57Speaker 12

I can approve this based upon my hesitation was because it was such a big lot and he's stated about where the septic tanks are. So that is a hardship in my opinion. So I'm able to support it. Thank you.

2:35:59Speaker 21

I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve.

2:36:02Speaker 18

Thank you. We have a motion. Do we have a second?

2:36:05Speaker 18

And a second. Motion by Mr. Gutierrez, second by Ms. Herrera. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

2:36:14 – 2:36:27Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAR-26-070. Motion made by Board Member Gutierrez, seconded by Board Member Herrera. Roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten.

2:36:28Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza.

2:36:30Speaker 29

Board Member Michael Johnston.

2:36:32 – 2:36:43Speaker 29

Board Member Bob Riley. Yes. Board Member Sandra King. Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman. Yes. Board Member Jana Herrera. Yes. Board Member Lucretia Powell. Yes. Board Member Kay Duffy.

2:36:44Speaker 29

Board member Madison Gutierrez? Yes. Board member Juan Manuel Acosta? Yes. Motion passes.

2:36:51 – 2:37:07Speaker 18

Thank you. Congratulations. Your application has been approved. Sure. Yes. If you have any questions, please reach out to city staff as early as tomorrow. Sure. Thank you. All right. Let's move to the next case. BAR-26-076. Ms. Reyes, we're ready when you are.

2:37:39 – 2:39:48Speaker 13

This is BAR-26-076. This is a variance to the one-family A-10 district development standard of a minimum 10-foot rear yard setback to allow a non-habitable accessory structure, which will be a detached carport, to encroach into the required rear yard along the southeastern property line. And the applicant is Audra and Kevin Morrison. And the address is 4209 Inman Court. This is the variance request details. The subject property is located in an established residential neighborhood. The 13,939 square foot property has a 4% downward slope from the northern property line to the southern property line and was not platted with alley access. There are several mature trees in the front and rear of the property and there is no presence of regulated floodplain. There are no other environmental constraints. The primary structure was constructed in 1967 according to the TAD records. This is the lot history. These are the elevations. The applicant is requesting a variance to allow construction of a carport measuring 24 feet, 2 inches wide by 25 feet long, 15 feet high that is located within the rear yard setback along the southeastern portion of the lot. The carport is approximately 550 square feet. The applicant is requesting a 5-foot rear yard setback which is deficient from the minimum required rear yard setback by 5 feet. The lot coverage is currently 19.8%, where 40% is allowed. If the carport is approved, it will bring the lot coverage to 23.2%, which is within the allowed coverage. The proposal is required to meet all of the development regulations. These are the variance request regulations here. These are the Board of Adjustment actions. Staff is available for any questions.

2:39:49Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Do we have questions for staff?

2:39:57Speaker 17

Any questions?

2:39:59Speaker 18

Okay. Thank you very much. Is the applicant here? Yes. Please come forward. Please state your names, address, and the facts about your case, and you'll have seven minutes.

2:40:12Speaker 18

Can we pull that mic up closer, too, so we can get you? Yeah, you can move it. Thanks. Waiting for a presentation. I won't start the clock yet.

2:40:39 – 2:46:22Speaker 19

Right there. Right there. Good morning, thank you, yeah. Yeah, please go ahead. Good morning, thank you so much for the time today. My name's Kevin Morrison. This is my wife, Audrey Morrison. We're the homeowners at 4209 Inman Court, Fort Worth, Texas, 76109. And today we're here to request a rear yard building setback for a non-habitable accessory structure, a detached carport. Next slide, please. And so this is the existing subdivision plat for our property. It was platted in 1963. It didn't transfer over, but in the bottom left, the plot 20. You can draw, yeah, you can draw on there. It's going red. Oh, it's not popping up. Yeah, there it is. So that's our property, specific to our subdivision. We're zone 10A, block 79, lot 20 for the Westcliff addition. This is a picture of our home. We just wanted to show you a couple things. There's the colonial style of it. We have a ton of mature trees. And so it's just really characteristic of Overton Park, our neighborhood. Here's our specific property. It was built in 1967. We've actually owned the home since the beginning of 24. The original size was roughly 2,100 square feet. In 25, we did a renovation to close in our existing original garage of the property. At the time, my wife was pregnant with our third kid, second kid, sorry. We have a third kid, too. Sorry, we lose track. But that was a completed renovation in October of 2025. And so, yeah, the garage was in the bottom left of the property. Yep, and it was too small for both of our cars. It was original-style garage, so we couldn't even park in there, both of our vehicles. Just showing you the before and after garage changes. On the left side is the pictures of the garage beforehand. On the right is it closed off, added roughly 500 square feet to our property, and lost parking as a result of it. And so here is the location of the proposed carport. I want to point out a couple things here. On the left is the existing survey. On the right is the site plan for where we're proposing building the carport. A couple of reasons why we chose this location. It's a straight direct run of the existing driveway. that allows side by side parking for both of our vehicles. We do have three kids, as mentioned, and it's a safe place for three children to come in and out of the back door so that they can play without vehicles being there. And it just is a more visually appealing location rather than right out of the back doors of our property where the original garage was. Here's an AI mock-up of what we're trying to build in this style. It matches the style of the home, non-habitable open accessory parking structure. As mentioned, roughly 550 square feet. It's painted wood framing, gable roof, composition shingles. The height of the carport, currently intended around 15 feet, 10 inches. The height of our existing home is 17 feet, 10 and a half inches. The 612 roof pitch matches the existing home. Here are some elevations in the floor plan, just to give you some more detail. Tentative is five columns on the carport. That is not a finalized plan, though, until we get to permitting. And the main reason we're here today is this tree. This tree is located in the back of our property. It's actually one of the reasons we bought It's beautiful, it's huge, it's also 50 years old. So one of the hardships is that we have to push the carport as far back into our property as allowable so that we can maneuver around the tree and ultimately not cut the tree down. And so as part of this process, we discussed with an arborist of what his recommendations would be. That was maintain an eight-foot perimeter around the tree trunk, air spade at the roots of that perimeter to allow extension of the concrete into the yard, And then the tree is healthy and highly advised against cutting it down due to the strong canopy and shade coverage. And so we're obviously in favor of that. That's why we're here today. And just going through the hardship criteria real quickly, not self-created. The tree predates our ownership, and we intend to keep it. It's unique to our property, pushes the proposed carport back into that rear yard building setback. And the mature trees are a feature of Overton Park, and it's in harmony with their plan. And then no effect on public health, very minimal encroachment into the building setback. And then lastly, no injury to adjacent property. We've discussed with all of our neighbors, and they're in support. Yeah, so in summary, that's basically it. 10-foot... Required rear yard setback, we're asking for five. Full neighbor support from everybody adjacent in the area that we've discussed with. So happy to answer any questions or if my wife has something to add.

2:46:23Speaker 18

Yeah, sure, you still got about a minute and a half.

2:46:25Speaker 19

I think we're good.

2:46:26 – 2:46:40Speaker 18

Okay. Great. Anyone else here in support of this case? Anyone here in opposition? Okay. Having seen none, I will open it up to questions from the board.

2:46:42Speaker 29

Of the applicant.

2:46:45 – 2:47:00Speaker 12

I don't have a question. I just want to compliment you on the presentation you put together. Very nicely laid out and explained. So thank you. Thank you. We've never done this before. You did a great job. It clearly shows the hardship. So thank you. We watched other hearings. There you go.

2:47:04Speaker 17

And I did observe your address marker on the front of your house.

2:47:11Speaker 17

I will tell you a little secret. There are people around this ring that went to that university in Waco.

2:47:21Speaker 10

Some that didn't.

2:47:22Speaker 17

Some that didn't. Some guy that wears his lanyard every day. Yeah.

2:47:28 – 2:47:39Speaker 11

So can I ask a quick question? So the dimensions on this carport are 25 feet deep. Is there a reason you need it 25 feet?

2:47:40Speaker 19

I think it's 23. It's 23 deep, sorry, of the actual structure, 24 by 23. Is that what you mean? Sorry.

2:47:48 – 2:48:37Speaker 25

I think the 25 includes the overhang, and correct me if I'm wrong on my verbiage here, but on the roof line where it goes across and it's like, I think it's the soffit is what it's called. So I think that would include that. The reason that we spent a lot of time trying to, we actually wanted to make it as small as we could, but still fit our cars comfortably. Both of our vehicles were measuring approximately 20 feet long. And so then we allowed about a foot and a half on each side for parking management to make sure that it's covered. And then side by side, the width is actually, each vehicle is six and a half feet. And so then we approximated about three feet on each side to allow full opening of vehicle doors in and out. Our children are notorious for opening. If you've parked with children, you know how that goes.

2:48:41Speaker 18

Any other questions from Stephanie?

2:48:43Speaker 7

Any other questions for the office? Yes, sir, Mr. Riley. I just want to make sure the side yard setback for A10 is five feet.

2:48:51 – 2:49:02Speaker 19

I just want to make sure they get everything. That's our understanding. Are you asking us? I'm sorry.

2:49:02Speaker 7

I just want to make sure that they're getting everything they need.

2:49:06Speaker 29

The side yard setback is five feet.

2:49:10Speaker 11

So side yard setback in an A10 is five, but rear yard setback is 10? Yes. And rear yard setback in an A5 is five?

2:49:20Speaker 11

So this property, how did he become an A10? How big is this property? It's not much bigger than an A5.

2:49:28Speaker 12

You know the size on this property?

2:49:29Speaker 19

It's close to half an acre. A little less, 0.4. I think that's a third. It's like 0.33 or something. Sorry, that's why she's here.

2:49:35Speaker 11

0.33? That make sense? It's about 12,000. At what point does an A5 become an A10?

2:49:46 – 2:50:17Speaker 7

At 10,000 square foot minimum for the lot is A10. A7.5 is 7,500. 23 is a half acre. 43 is acre. Yeah, they're properly zoned. I just wanted to make sure that they're getting everything they need in one bite.

2:50:17Speaker 27

Sure. It's a 13,939 square foot lot.

2:50:23 – 2:50:37Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. Y'all go ahead and have a seat. We'll close the public hearing and open it up to discussion among the board.

2:50:39Speaker 12

I have no issues with this because of the hardship of the beautiful, beautiful tree.

2:50:49Speaker 12

So if we're, is there any other discussion? If not, I can make a motion.

2:50:55Speaker 7

Sorry, thought that was a motion. I have to say the, one second.

2:51:01 – 2:51:13Speaker 12

Okay, BAR 26-06, I move to approve. 076. 076. 26-076. Move to approve. Second.

2:51:13Speaker 18

There we go. Thank you, Mr. Herrera. Thank you, Mr. Riley. Second by Mr. Riley. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

2:51:24 – 2:51:36Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAR-26-076. Motion made by Board Member General Herrera, seconded by Board Member Bob Riley. Roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten.

2:51:37 – 2:51:53Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza. Yes. Board Member Michael Johnston. Yes. Board Member Bob Riley. Yes. Board Member Sandra King. Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman. Yes. Board Member Lucretia Powell. Yes. Board Member Kay Duffy. Yes. Board Member Madison Gutierrez.

2:51:54Speaker 29

Board member Jana Herrera? Yes. Board member Juan Manuel Costa?

2:52:01Speaker 29

The motion passes.

2:52:03 – 2:52:20Speaker 18

Congratulations. The application has been approved. Should you have any questions for city staff, please reach out as early as tomorrow. Thank you. All right, let's do one more case and then we will probably break for lunch after this case. So just for planning purposes. Next case is BAR-26-074. Staff, we're ready when you are.

2:52:33 – 2:54:39Speaker 27

The next item on the agenda is BAR-26-074, located at 3705 Slade Boulevard. The property owner is Zulma Cantania, and the applicant is Ivan Alonso. The property is owned A-5, one family district. The applicant is requesting a special exception to allow a carport within the required front yard of a residential dwelling. The subject property is located on an interior street in an established neighborhood containing several mature trees and no presence of a floodplain. The property is approximately 6,650 square feet in area and contains a 5% slope from the eastern property line going towards the western property line. The property was not plotted with alley access. The primary structure was constructed in 1958 and front Slade Boulevard with driveway access provided from the street. The subject property is originally contained in an attached garage. However, permit records indicate that the garage was converted into a bedroom in 2003. This is the lot history for the property. The applicant is requesting a special exception to allow construction of a carport measuring 18 feet wide by 20 feet long and 10 feet high that is located within the required front yard. The carport encroaches into the established front yard by approximately 20 feet, with a setback measuring 15 feet from the front property line to the carport. The location of the carport is intended to provide cover for the existing concrete drive leading to the driveway, and the existing concrete drive measures 23 feet wide, widening to 18 feet by 33 feet long, and extends to the property line from the front wall, and there is one other carport along the block face. The current lot coverage is approximately 29.77%, and the carport will result in a lot coverage of approximately 35.19%, which is well within the 50% maximum allowed by the city ordinance. And if the special exception is approved, the applicant will be required to obtain the proper permits and meet all other development standards.

2:54:39Speaker 18

Could we flip? I think we're on the wrong picture. Wrong. We needed 7-6. Or this is...

2:54:48Speaker 29

I think we just have the wrong label.

2:54:50Speaker 18

Okay. This is the different, this is seven.

2:54:53Speaker 29

Oh, this is . This site plan.

2:54:58 – 2:55:10Speaker 27

Disregard this slide. Okay. These are the regulations that pertain to the case and these are the board's actions and this concludes staff's presentation and I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

2:55:11Speaker 18

Thank you. Questions for staff, please.

2:55:19Speaker 8

Are there any other carports in the neighborhood?

2:55:22Speaker 27

There's one other one. It's not permitted.

2:55:35Speaker 7

Two adjacent lots. One to the north and to the south. Their front yard or their building setback is 20 feet or is that a side yard?

2:55:46Speaker 27

Can you repeat that?

2:55:48 – 2:56:08Speaker 7

If you go back to kind of the, keep going back. Okay, looking at the aerial, the house to the north or to the top, is their front yard on Slade or is it on?

2:56:09Speaker 27

Carrick. Their front yard is to Carrick, I believe. And likewise. I can confirm that.

2:56:18Speaker 27

It's on Lifford.

2:56:21Speaker 7

Okay, so their side yards would be 10?

2:56:37Speaker 7

That's kind of a unique situation in my mind.

2:56:43Speaker 11

I don't remember ever having a projected front yard issue with a carport before. Why are we all of a sudden doing that?

2:56:51Speaker 29

There is not a projected front yard issue with this one. It's just to allow the carport in the front yard, the special exception.

2:56:59Speaker 11

Just a regular carport?

2:57:01Speaker 29

Yes. So this is the actual front yard for this property?

2:57:06 – 2:57:22Speaker 7

I'm just curious, mainly because you really have two houses that abut this that don't have the same requirement as far as building setbacks. I do understand that carports do require special exception.

2:57:29Speaker 18

Any other questions for staff?

2:57:31Speaker 8

Has the carport been built already?

2:57:45 – 2:57:57Speaker 18

Okay. Thank you, Ms. Reyes. Is the applicant here? Yes, please come forward. Thank you. Please state all your names, address, and facts about your case, and you'll have seven minutes.

2:57:59Speaker 16

I'm Ivan, Ivan Alonzo, Sulma Quintanilla, my wife.

2:58:02Speaker 18

Could you stand up a little bit closer to the microphone? Okay. Or you can pull it to your, there you go.

2:58:06 – 2:58:28Speaker 16

All right, Ivan Alonzo, Sulma Quintanilla, my wife. We lived there about 20 years. Recently we had a hailstorm, and as you can see on the document, I had a very extensive claim on both of my vehicles. And I'm sorry, I'm a little nervous.

2:58:30Speaker 18

Are you up late on time?

2:58:32 – 2:59:07Speaker 16

So we're trying to, you know, this is, we're going to stay here forever. We're not going to move anywhere else. We want to stay in this very established neighborhood. And we're going to build adequate carport to make sure very runoff, I don't want any water damage or anything, it's gonna be detached. So it's not gonna be attached to the house, anything. And we would really appreciate if you accept that. Thank you.

2:59:09Speaker 18

You still have plenty of time. Is there anything else you wanna add?

2:59:12 – 2:59:36Speaker 16

Oh, yes. The carport's gonna be, I think, 360 feet square. So I'm gonna make sure there's adequate runoff of it. And I guess the driveway right now is about 800 square feet. So there's plenty of area. So we're not gonna be covering way too much of our lot.

2:59:42Speaker 18

Is there anything else you wanna add?

2:59:44Speaker 16

Okay. No, sir.

2:59:45Speaker 18

Thank you. Is there anyone here to speak in support? Yes, sir. Please come forward. State your name, address.

2:59:56Speaker 17

My name is Carter Gillespie. I live at 3701 Slade Boulevard, just to the north of my neighbors. They're good neighbors. They can do whatever they want.

3:00:07Speaker 18

Thank you. Is there anyone else here to speak in support? Okay. Anything else you want to add? Okay. No, sir.

3:00:17Speaker 7

I have a question to the applicant.

3:00:18Speaker 18

Yeah, one second. Let me do the time in the opposition, then we'll come back to that. Anyone here to speak in opposition to this case?

3:00:26Speaker 18

Having seen none. Yes, sir. Mr. Riley, let's open it up to questions from the board.

3:00:30Speaker 7

No, it's on the elevation that looks like it's a slope going up over to the right of the one that was there.

3:00:38Speaker 18

Can we go back to that street view?

3:00:44 – 3:00:55Speaker 7

Looks like there's a slope going up to the front porch or that vestibule area. Is that necessary for anybody in the house to gain access to the house?

3:00:59Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant?

3:01:02 – 3:01:33Speaker 17

I noticed on your drawing that it shows I think the distance, the measurement between the left side of your house as you're looking at it from the street and your property line is 15 feet. Did I read that correctly? That's correct. Okay. And I'm looking at the photograph of the front of your house. Is that concreted all the way to the backyard or just a portion?

3:01:33Speaker 16

Yes, it is. It's concreted all the way to the back. We had to do that when we had the addition. We had to have sufficient parking for other vehicles.

3:01:42Speaker 17

And the conversion of the existing garage to the bedroom, was that done by you or your previous owner?

3:01:50Speaker 16

Previous owner.

3:01:55Speaker 18

So say that again, you added, you're asking about the concrete on the left-hand side of the driveway on that side? Yes. And that was added, you had to include that as part of the addition or is that what you're?

3:02:05Speaker 16

That's correct. To add on to the back of the house, we had to put sufficient parking. Okay, got it. Thank you. Thank you.

3:02:14Speaker 18

Ms. Duffy, did you have a question? Any other questions for the applicant? Okay.

3:02:21 – 3:02:39Speaker 11

I will put something out there. Just from the picture, it does seem that going around your house to a garage in the backyard is nearly impossible, but looking to the left side of what we're seeing right now, the shape of your yard, there's no way you could build a garage in the backyard or a carport, correct?

3:02:44Speaker 11

That's your hardship, I feel like. You don't need a hardship. This is a special exception. You don't need hardship.

3:02:58 – 3:03:11Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. You can sit down. Stay close. We might call you up in a minute. But I'll close the public portion of the hearing and open it up to discussion amongst the board regarding this case.

3:03:17 – 3:03:34Speaker 11

If we were ever going to grant a special exception for carports, it seems like a perfectly good case. I'll make a motion to approve.

3:03:37Speaker 18

Second. Motion to approve by Ms. Duffy, second by Mr. Acosta. Thank you. Staff, could we please perform a roll call vote?

3:03:47Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAR-26-074, the motion made by Board Member Duffy and second by Board Member Acosta. Roll call vote. Board Member Jim Whitten.

3:03:58Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza. Yes. Board Member Michael Johnston. Yes. Board Member Bob Riley.

3:04:04Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King. Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman.

3:04:08 – 3:04:24Speaker 29

And for the record, that was a yes for Board Member Sandra King. Board Member Jana Herrera. Yes. Board Member Lucretia Powell. Yes. Board Member Kay Duffy? Yes. Board Member Madison Gortyrez? Yes. Board Member Juan Manuel Acosta? Yes. The motion passes.

3:04:25 – 3:04:41Speaker 18

Congratulations, your application has been approved. Should you have any questions for city staff, please reach out as early as tomorrow. Thank you. All right, we have two cases left. So we have number 11, number 12, and the agenda 13 has been administratively withdrawn. So we're gonna break for lunch.

3:04:43Speaker 10

I suggest we just go.

3:04:44 – 3:04:55Speaker 18

Do you want to keep going? The applicants are here. Let's just go through it. You got to take off. We've got one board member who needs to leave. So let's make that change. Do you want to take a five-minute bathroom break and then keep going?

3:04:55Speaker 11

That's a good idea.

3:04:56Speaker 18

Okay, let's do that. So we'll take a five-minute recess, and then we'll come pick right back up.

3:06:04 – 3:08:23Speaker 27

VARIANCE, SPECIAL EXCEPTION A IS TO ALLOW A CARPORT WITHIN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD OF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING. VARIANCE B IS TO THE ONE FAMILY A-7.5 DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARD OF A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK TO ALLOW A NONHABITABLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, A DETACHED CARPORT TO ENCROACH INTO THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. The subject property is located on an interior street in an established neighborhood containing several mature trees in the rear yard and no presence of a floodplain. The property is approximately 8,775 square feet in area and is relatively flat and does not contain alley access. The primary structure was constructed in 1944 and faces onto Camp Bowie with driveway access. There is a permit for a carport which is awaiting client reply which is pending the outcome of this case. The applicant is requesting a special exception to allow a carport measuring 13 feet wide by 45 feet long and eight feet high that is located within the required front yard. The proposed carport is intended to provide covered access over the existing front porch as the existing concrete driveway leading to the street. The existing concrete driveway measures approximately 13 feet and 5 inches in width by 36 feet in length and extends from the front porch to the front property line, and the distance from the front porch to the front property line is approximately 48 feet. The proposed carport is located approximately 3 feet from the front property line. In addition to the special exception, the applicant is requesting a six inch side yard setback, which is deficient from the minimum required side yard setback by four feet, six inches. There are no other front yard carports located along the block face. However, there are five other carports located along the sides of the properties within the block face. The current lot coverage is approximately 16.76%. The car pod will result in a lot coverage of approximately 23.43%, which is well within the 50% maximum allowed by ordinance. If the special exception and variance are approved, the applicant will be required to obtain the proper permits and meet all other development standards. These are the regulations that pertain to this case. And these are the board's actions, and I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

3:08:24 – 3:08:42Speaker 18

Thank you very much. Questions for staff? So the length, and I realize we're having a special exception and a variance, but the length is not a question here.

3:08:43Speaker 18

Okay. Any other questions for staff?

3:08:53Speaker 17

Did I hear you correctly that the front of this car part would be three feet from the street?

3:08:59Speaker 27

That is correct.

3:09:04 – 3:09:16Speaker 11

Okay, I'm going to ask a question. Please. So this is addressed as Camp Bowie, but it's not really Camp Bowie. It's kind of a service road off Camp Bowie, correct? What do we call that kind of street?

3:09:21Speaker 18

Ms. Pena, do you know what that's called? Or how we classify that street?

3:09:29Speaker 28

I do not, but I mean, I would think by the width of it, it would probably just be classified as a residential street.

3:09:37 – 3:09:56Speaker 11

And then Camp Bowie itself is kind of serving almost as a little freeway there. And way across from that, all that is industrial across the street? Or... Heavy commercial or what are they calling that? Camp Bowie Access is what they're calling it.

3:09:56Speaker 21

It's just a bunch of commercial across the street.

3:10:01Speaker 28

It looks like some of it is actually Camp Bowie Design District.

3:10:06Speaker 11

Bowie Design District, so that's a what, a PID or what?

3:10:09Speaker 28

The Camp Bowie Design, it's a form-based code.

3:10:18Speaker 10

It's all commercial across the street.

3:10:19Speaker 28

It is commercial. It looks like it's mixed.

3:10:24 – 3:10:50Speaker 10

And a clarification on Mr. Johnson's question, the end of the garage would be three feet from the property line, but not, it would be more than three feet from the street because the property line is inside the curb. I mean, just look at this aerial, that other aerial picture. Yeah, that one. You can tell it. If the red is where the garage is going to be, that's more than three feet from there.

3:10:51 – 3:11:04Speaker 27

So when staff measured on the driveway through the zoning map, we measured the driveway at 48 feet. And the applicant is proposing a 45-foot carport. So that's how we did the measurements.

3:11:11Speaker 28

And just to make sure, I did check, and that is the Camp Bowie Access Road, and it is classified as a public residential two-way street.

3:11:22 – 3:11:42Speaker 18

Thank you. Any other questions for staff? No questions. Okay. Thank you very much. Is the applicant here? Sir, please come forward, state your name, address, and the facts about your case, and you'll have seven minutes.

3:11:43 – 3:13:10Speaker 15

Thank you. My name is Garrison Kidd. My address is 190 Wrigley Drive in Springtown, Texas, 76082. I am the contractor for this carport on behalf of the Matlocks. What you see here is we're going to be about 16 feet off of the roadway. On the left side is the property line. It's a curb to driveway. And so to have that set back. We're coming off of that curb on the left side, the west side of that driveway to set plates on our anchors for this carport. The 45 feet, so it goes from the beginning of the left side curb of the driveway up to the front left portion of that, what probably at one point could have been a garage, but it's an enclosed structure so that that carport comes right up to the structure for coverage so they can step out without getting rained on per se and access both of their vehicles. And additionally, the reason for the 45-foot length was to be able to park both of their vehicles out of the weather. The recent storms also, like the previous gentleman mentioned, their vehicles fell, incident to those hail storms recently.

3:13:14Speaker 18

Yes, sir. You still have plenty of time if there's anything else you want to add. That's all.

3:13:20Speaker 18

Is there anyone else here to speak in support of this case? Anyone else here to speak in opposition to this case?

3:13:31Speaker 18

I will now open it up to questions from the board of the applicant. Yes, sir.

3:13:35Speaker 30

Mr. Acosta. Based on the property, will there be a possibility to make it double car white or not?

3:13:46 – 3:14:04Speaker 15

It's not set up. You have to be so much of an easement off the water line. And so to add concrete to come into the front yard would be the only option. So they can double stack two vehicles in their existing driveway. And so it just makes the most sense to build on what they have existing.

3:14:10 – 3:14:31Speaker 18

Any other questions? OK. All right. Sir, if you would please have a seat. We might call you back up in a minute. I will close the public portion of this hearing and open it up to discussion among the board regarding this case.

3:14:33Speaker 30

Question two. There are supposed to be two vehicles parked behind the property line or not in this property? It's more of a staff question.

3:14:45 – 3:15:05Speaker 28

So we don't know if that was previously, I mean, I think he stated it used to be a garage just from aerials from 2007. It was already part of the home. The two parking spaces required behind the wall was in 2004. So we really couldn't tell.

3:15:05 – 3:15:26Speaker 29

Emily, I think you confirmed on tab when the home was built. Correct. The house was built before the ordinance was passed. And I don't think there was any reference on TED about there being a garage. Is that true?

3:15:27Speaker 12

That is correct.

3:15:37 – 3:15:54Speaker 11

Page 107 of the presentation. So visually it appears that the side yard setback is the same for the house as it is for this blue carport?

3:15:59Speaker 29

The blue was drawn in by staff just to create a visual representation.

3:16:06Speaker 11

So do we know what the actual setback between the house and the yard is next?

3:16:11Speaker 29

The applicant said that the carport would be right up against the house, so.

3:16:18Speaker 11

But the site, we're looking for a variance on a side yard setback, right? Six inches, yes. But is the, how far is the house from the side yard setback right now?

3:16:29Speaker 29

I am not certain on that. It's not outlined on the site plan.

3:16:35Speaker 10

If you look on that aerial, the house is, I don't know if it's six inches from the side yard, but it's very close.

3:16:41Speaker 11

It's closer than five feet already.

3:16:46Speaker 27

Going back to the parking, the house under conversion took place the same year in 1944.

3:16:59Speaker 29

The applicant may recall this side yard setback of the existing structure.

3:17:04Speaker 18

Sorry, yeah, come back up.

3:17:07 – 3:17:39Speaker 15

It's gonna be less than five feet. So the driveway that has a little concrete run that goes beside it for trash, I would say, because 13 goes just to the outside of the existing driveway. And so if you take, and it goes all the way up to the house, And so we're less than five feet from the core of the house to the neighbor's chain link fence.

3:17:39Speaker 10

If you go to slide 106, that scenario, you can see how close the house is.

3:17:49Speaker 18

Can we flip back one to 106? Slide 106.

3:18:05Speaker 28

The aerial shows about three and a half feet.

3:18:14Speaker 21

I have a question.

3:18:17 – 3:18:36Speaker 21

So looking at Street View, I can see that the, it's like at least three plus houses to the west. They all have a single car port protruding from the house. Have y'all spoken with any of these neighbors if they're in support of something like this? Do they have a letter stating anything?

3:18:37Speaker 15

Yes, sir. The neighbors on the left and right of this address signed in support, and that was on the application submitted. Okay. I'll look for that.

3:18:47 – 3:19:01Speaker 17

Do you know what the distance of the carport would be if the front of it was even with the front of the house? And what the measurement, the depth of the carport would be if it was constructed that way?

3:19:03Speaker 15

It's probably 20 foot less.

3:19:08Speaker 17

So it would be about 25 feet? Yeah.

3:19:15Speaker 10

You could only get one car in it.

3:19:17 – 3:19:32Speaker 17

I understand that, but if, and this is I guess a question for staff, if the carport was even, if the front of the carport was even with the front of the house, would the special exception be needed?

3:19:35Speaker 28

It would not, but the side yard would.

3:19:38Speaker 17

But the side yard would, but the special exception for the carport in the front yard would go away.

3:19:46Speaker 29

Yes, if it's lined up with the front wall of the home, it's not in the front yard.

3:19:56Speaker 18

So we're still in the board discussion phase. Sir, you can sit down if you want to. We'll call you back up if we need to.

3:20:04 – 3:20:18Speaker 12

I want to go back to clarify. So if the carport ended at the front of the front of the house, would they be able to get two cars? Because someone said no. So no.

3:20:20 – 3:20:41Speaker 29

I believe the applicant described that that would give them 20 feet of carport. So 20 feet would not give you space for two cars, tandemly. And the width of the proposed carport is 13 feet wide. And so that would not give you enough space for side by side.

3:20:41Speaker 12

Thank you for clarifying.

3:20:47 – 3:21:11Speaker 11

OK, so this house is not current. This house is not meeting parking behind the building line at this time.

3:21:12Speaker 29

That is correct. The home was constructed prior to the requirement being placed in the ordinance.

3:21:26Speaker 18

I think I'm struggling with just the length of it. I think a single I'd be okay, and I realize they probably have two cars, but just the 45 feet is what I'm struggling with.

3:21:36Speaker 11

Are we in discussion now?

3:21:38 – 3:21:50Speaker 11

Okay, so I would totally agree with you in a normal neighborhood. There's no front yard neighbors here. Is the future land use of this property still residential?

3:22:01 – 3:22:14Speaker 11

Just while I'm talking and then I'll shut up. But in terms of a variance, like all we're talking about are some posts that are going to be. Right, because it's not enclosed. The driveway's already there. It doesn't seem to be bothering the neighbor.

3:22:15Speaker 29

The future land use is single family residential.

3:22:23Speaker 10

And the effective neighbors have approved.

3:22:27Speaker 18

Yeah, to either side, right?

3:22:30Speaker 21

It's both east and west.

3:22:39Speaker 10

I'll make a motion. Go ahead, Mr. Witten. I'll move that we approve BAR-26-075 as submitted.

3:22:48Speaker 18

So we have a motion by Mr. Witten, a second by Ms. Powell, is that right?

3:22:53Speaker 17

And a motion for approval. I would request that these two be separated, please. Or separate votes.

3:23:00Speaker 18

Is that right, Mr. Whitten?

3:23:03Speaker 18

All right. So motion, you want to make a motion on A first?

3:23:06Speaker 10

Yes, I move that BAR-26-075A.

3:23:10Speaker 29

Well, we can make one motion to approve and we can just do the vote separately.

3:23:14Speaker 18

Vote separately. Okay. Staff, you would please perform a roll call vote. We have a motion by Mr. Whitten, a second by Ms. Powell.

3:23:20 – 3:23:34Speaker 29

Yes, we have a motion to approve case BAR-26-075, motion made by Board Member Jim Whitten, seconded by Board Member Lucretia Powell. The vote will be taken separately. Vote for variance A, Board Member Jim Whitten.

3:23:35Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza. Yes. Board Member Michael Johnston.

3:23:41Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King.

3:23:45Speaker 29

Board Member Whit Wollman. This is for the special exception?

3:23:53Speaker 29

Board member Jana Herrera?

3:23:57Speaker 29

Board member Lucretia Powell?

3:24:00Speaker 29

Board member Kay Duffy? Yes. Board member Madison Gutierrez?

3:24:07Speaker 29

Board member Juan Manuel Costa?

3:24:09Speaker 29

Board member Eric Ortega?

3:24:15Speaker 29

The motion to approve special exception fails.

3:24:18Speaker 18

Correct, eight to three, right?

3:24:20Speaker 18

Okay, that's for variance, or sorry, special exception A.

3:24:23Speaker 29

Special exception A.

3:24:26Speaker 18

Okay, let's move to variance, to B, the variance.

3:24:30Speaker 8

There is no carport.

3:24:32 – 3:24:49Speaker 29

So if the property owner decides to reduce the carport to just be behind the front building wall, they may still need the side yard setback. So we'll take a roll call vote on variance B. Board Member Jim Whitten.

3:24:50Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza. Yes. Board Member Michael Johnston.

3:24:55Speaker 29

Board Member Sandra King. Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman. Yes. Board Member Jana Herrera.

3:25:03Speaker 29

Board Member Lucretia Powell.

3:25:05Speaker 29

Board Member Kay Duffy. Yes. Board Member Madison Gutierrez.

3:25:10Speaker 29

Board Member Eric Ortega.

3:25:12Speaker 29

Board Member Juan Manuel Acosta.

3:25:15Speaker 29

Variance B is approved.

3:25:17Speaker 18

So variance B was 10 to 1, correct?

3:25:20Speaker 29

That is correct.

3:25:20 – 3:25:45Speaker 18

Yep. So, sir, the special exception was not granted. That was not approved. However, variance B for the side yard setback was approved. So I would say as early as tomorrow, you can reach out to city staff if you have any questions. Thank you. All right. We are moving on to BAR 26-071. Staff, we're ready when you are.

3:25:46 – 3:30:18Speaker 27

The property is located at 2705 Burchill Road. The property owner and applicants are Rafael and Juanita Juarez. The zoning district is A-5, one family district. The applicant is requesting two special exceptions and three variances. Special exception A is to allow a carport within the required front yard of a residential dwelling. Special exception B is to allow an open design fence up to five feet in height within the required front yard. Variance C is to the maximum fence height to allow a combination of masonry and iron fence with the maximum height of 5 feet 9 inches at its highest point within the required front yard. Variance D is to the maximum column height of 5 feet 6 inches to allow a fence columns masonry up to 7 feet in height within the required front yard. Variance E is to the requirement that driveway coverage for one and two family uses shall not exceed 50% of the front yard as measured between the front property line and the closest location of the structure to allow 98.24% of driveway coverage to the front yard. The subject property is a 9,135 rectangular foot interior lot located along Birch Hill Road in an established neighborhood. The lot was plotted without alley access in 1947. The lot slopes at 2.5% from the highest point on the northeast corner down to the front of the property and is not within a regulated floodplain. The lot does not contain mature trees. The primary structure is approximately 900 square feet in size and does not contain a garage. There is an active code compliance complaint that was issued in September of 2025 for the carport fence and driveway coverage. The applicant is requesting a special exception to allow two existing carports that are located within the required front yard that are attached by a covered patio. The first carport measures 14 feet wide by 16 feet long and 10 feet high. The carport encroaches into the established front yard by approximately 16 feet with the setback measuring eight feet and one half inch from the front property line to the carport. The second carport measures 18 feet wide by 18 feet long, 10 feet in height. The carport encroaches into the established front yard by approximately 23 feet, 10 inches, with a setback measuring eight inches from the front property line to the carport. The location of the carport is intended to provide cover for the existing concrete drive leading to the driveway. The applicant is requesting a special exception to allow an open design fence up to five feet in height within the required front yard. The applicant is requesting a variance to the maximum fence height allowed to allow a combination of masonry and iron fence with the maximum height of five feet nine inches at the highest point within the required front yard. The fence is a combination of masonry and iron design consisting of masonry sections ranging from approximately 2 feet to 2 feet 9 inches in height with wrought iron fencing above. The wrought iron fencing sections range from approximately 3 feet to 3 feet 8 inches bringing the total overall height of 5 feet 8 inches. The applicant is requesting a variance for the maximum column height of 5 feet 6 inches to allow fence columns masonry up to 7 feet in height within the projected front yard along the interior and eastern-western property boundary and on the front property line along Birch Hill Road. The zoning ordinance section 5.305... B2D specifies that the fence designs may include columns to a maximum height of 5 feet 6 inches. The applicant is requesting to allow a fence design that includes columns up to 7 feet in height, which exceeds the maximum allowed height by 1 feet 6 inches. Variance request E is to allow 1,344 square feet of paved surface resulting in a 98.25% driveway coverage in the front yard as measured between the front of the structure and the front property line. The area between the front of the structure and the front property line is 1,368 square feet and the maximum driveway coverage permitted by right is 50% or 684 square feet. If the special exception and variance request are approved, the applicant will be required to meet all other development standards and obtain building permits. These are the regulations that pertain to the case. And these are the board's actions. And this concludes staff's presentation and I'm available to answer any questions the board may have.

3:30:18Speaker 18

Thank you. Questions for the board? Ms. Duffy.

3:30:23 – 3:30:48Speaker 11

Well, this is going to sound like I'm a total pain in the ass, but... So I am noticing in Google Maps that Fort Worth has a 2705 Birch Hill Road and they have one where Birch Hill Road South. Can you pull the mic a little bit closer? So I'm thinking the photo we're looking at is Birch Hill Road South. Both addresses exist in Fort Worth according to Google Maps.

3:30:49Speaker 18

Right, versus just Birch Hill Road.

3:30:52Speaker 11

So is that going to cause us grief?

3:30:58Speaker 18

Legal, do you think that's going to cause us an issue from a notice?

3:31:38 – 3:31:50Speaker 29

Attempting to verify the address within our GIS map, but we are still having some technical difficulties. It is south.

3:31:51Speaker 11

Okay. The photo evidence certainly seems it is south.

3:31:54 – 3:32:43Speaker 29

Okay. So, Trey, are we able to continue to hear this case? We've legal noticed in agendas 2705 Birch Hill Road and not Birch Hill Road south. When I type in 2705 Birch Hill Road in our GIS map, it takes me to the subject property. But the map layers are not working to confirm. Can you pull the legal notice list so we can confirm the address it's surrounding?

3:33:18Speaker 27

We noticed legal correctly.

3:33:22Speaker 18

Was that Ms. Pena?

3:33:24Speaker 18

Emily, thank you. All right, Ms. Duffy, sounds like we're okay.

3:33:32Speaker 11

Did you have more questions?

3:33:36Speaker 29

No, thank you. We'll be sure to pay more attention to that.

3:33:40Speaker 18

Ms. Duffy, did you have more questions? Nope. Any other questions for SAP? Yes, sir.

3:33:44Speaker 17

Yeah, was there any evidence of a building permit taken out on these structures?

3:33:48Speaker 27

There was no building permits for these structures that we found.

3:33:52Speaker 18

Thanks. And you can't tell when these have been constructed?

3:33:57Speaker 27

No, staff was not able to confirm that. We asked the applicant that he was able to provide the documentations. However, we never received those documents.

3:34:05 – 3:34:25Speaker 18

Okay, thanks. Any other questions for staff? Thank you, Ms. Reyes. The applicant here. Yes, please come forward. Please state your names, address, and facts about your case, and you'll have seven minutes.

3:34:28 – 3:34:39Speaker 24

Hey, good afternoon. I know you guys are hungry. My name is Kelsey Kosick, and I'm going to be speaking by proxy on behalf of Mr. Juarez, but he's going to introduce himself as well, and we need our presentation, please.

3:34:41Speaker 18

We'll get that pulled up.

3:34:43Speaker 14

My name is Rafael Juarez, live at 2705 Berksfield Road South.

3:34:50Speaker 24

I'm sorry, I live at 5217 Katie Rose Court in Fort Worth, Texas.

3:34:59Speaker 24

Can you let me know when my time starts, sir?

3:35:00Speaker 18

Go ahead, yeah, go ahead, if you're ready.

3:35:03 – 3:36:19Speaker 24

So we are here as two City of Fort Worth employees to discuss this property at 2705 Burch Hill Road South, Ms. Duffy. Thank you for catching that. We respectfully request that the approval of the variances and the special exemptions necessary to retain the existing residential improvements on this property The presentation itself will identify the purposes as the purpose as retaining the long standing improvements, while allowing reasonable and safe off site parking at this property. Next slide, please. There are five related requests before all of you today. Given Ms. Reyes's thorough explanation of them, if with your permission, I'd like to go ahead and skip this slide and move forward so you guys can get to lunch, if that's okay. Ms. Reyes, next slide, please. One of the most important considerations is the original configuration of this property. The home was constructed in 1947 without a garage. It sits on an incredibly narrow lot with a highly sloping front yard.

3:36:19Speaker 28

You can pull it closer if you need to.

3:36:29 – 3:37:56Speaker 24

Those physical characteristics substantially limit the available options for creating a functional off-street parking option. These conditions are not the result of the current ownership, however. They are characteristics of the original home and lot. Raphael acquired the property in 2019. Next slide, please. This slide is in relation to the fence and columns, as we discussed. This slide provides important historical context for the fence and the masonry columns. The photographs document essentially the same fence and column configuration from 2007 through 2025. The important part here is that these improvements were established long before Raphael became the owner of the property. Next slide, please. We also have included a signed statement from the previous property owner that provides additional history of that masonry and fencing installation. He reports purchasing the property, the previous owner in 1994, installing the brick columns and non-privacy iron fence, approximately between 1994 and 1995. The statements from him support the photographic record showing that the fence and those masonry columns substantially predate the current ownership.

3:37:57Speaker 26

Next slide, please.

3:38:00 – 3:40:06Speaker 24

The home was built without a garage, so this area serves as the property's functional off-street parking option. The carports use cedar framing and bracing with composite shingles. They provide covered parking within the existing residential layout. The elevation drawing shown here provides the dimensions and configuration of those structures. This slide will help support The point that the parking arrangement remains within the existing property layout while landscape frontage remains visible along the highly sloped street. Next slide please. The photograph on this slide provides important context for the paved area variance. We recognize that the zoning calculation identified 98.24% coverage within the applicable front yard area. The percentage sounds significant when considered by itself. But the current photograph shows how the property functions in practice. The paved area is concentrated within the existing parking area next to the residence. It provides direct access to the two covered parking spaces. The property also retains a substantial grass and landscaped area along the street frontage, which goes back off the street approximately 11 feet. The open carports and open iron fence preserve visibility through the property rather than creating a solid visual barrier along the streets. Next slide please. The requested relief is based on the physical characteristics of this particular property. The residence was built in 1947 without the garage. The lot is incredibly narrow and the front yard highly slopes. Each of these conditions existed before Raphael acquired the property with his wife. Taken together, the original building footprint limited lot width and existing grade substantially restrict practical alternatives for safe off-street covered parking and or driveway reconfiguration. The request therefore relates to the physical constraints to the specific property rather than convenience alone.

3:40:09 – 3:41:24Speaker 24

We also ask that the board consider how these existing improvements function within the neighborhood. The open iron fence and gate preserve visibility through the frontage. The paved area provides defined off-street parking. Grass and landscape frontage remain along the street. Most importantly, the nearby property owners were informed of the request and signed and submitted, along with our application, the petition indicating that they have no objections to the current frontage of the house. Last slide please. I'd like to thank you all for your time and your consideration today. The record before you shows that Mr. Raphael has a 1947 home constructed without a garage. It is on a constrained lot. The fence and masonry columns that substantially predate the current ownership and established off street parking arrangement and written support from nearby property owners are all included. Approval of these requests would allow Raphael to retain the established residential improvements while addressing the current zoning requirements through the proper board processes of permitting. We respectfully ask for your approval for all five requests.

3:41:25Speaker 18

Done. Still got about 30 seconds left. Done. Anything else you want to add?

3:41:29Speaker 24

Thank you. All done.

3:41:32 – 3:41:52Speaker 18

All done, okay. Thank you very much. Is there anyone here to speak in opposition? All right, having seen none, I will open it up to board questions for the applicant. Would y'all, one of y'all or whoever's gonna speak, y'all can come back up. Mr. Johnson.

3:41:53Speaker 17

Yeah, were all of these improvements that are the subject of this action today on the property at the time you purchased it?

3:42:03Speaker 14

Can you repeat that again?

3:42:04 – 3:42:20Speaker 17

Sure. All of the improvements that we're talking about today, that being the carports, the paved front yard, the brick fence, were all of those in existence at the time that you first purchased the property?

3:42:20Speaker 14

No, sir. Just the fence with the iron deal. The carport and the concrete deal, that's mine. I take ownership of that.

3:42:31Speaker 17

Do you know why? Did you take out a building permit for those things?

3:42:36 – 3:43:04Speaker 14

No, sir. At the time that I did that, it was around 2020, whenever I did the carport and the concrete. I didn't get no knowledge of getting permits, which I worked for the city at the same time, and I was trying to get some information, but I couldn't get nothing. And it was kind of close to when the COVID hit at the same time. So, no, sir. Thank you.

3:43:06Speaker 11

Would the driveway require permits?

3:43:11 – 3:43:23Speaker 29

Yes, the driveway will require permits, but also requires the variance. Right, but the approach, if it was a new approach, it would require permits, but this one is not a new approach.

3:43:24Speaker 11

But the paving itself doesn't require a permit.

3:43:28Speaker 29

The paving itself.

3:43:31Speaker 11

Repaving your driveway doesn't require a permit.

3:43:33Speaker 29

No, but if it does exceed, then.

3:43:35Speaker 11

Then you would require a variance. Yes.

3:43:41 – 3:44:07Speaker 18

Any other questions for the applicant? Okay, thank you, sir. You have a seat. I'm gonna close the public portion of this hearing and open it up to discussion among the board. Don't leave yet, just in case we have questions. We might call you back up. Sure. Open for board discussion or a motion.

3:44:13Speaker 11

Yeah, I have a question. So I think I'm seeing in the picture two carports, right?

3:44:20 – 3:44:44Speaker 18

Yes. Plus kind of that front porch, looks like that's an addition that's coming off as well. But we only have... One special exception? Staff, you know if that's, is that both considered under one?

3:44:44Speaker 11

Yes, it is. So if we granted the special exception, both carports would stay up?

3:44:50 – 3:45:01Speaker 29

Unless you specify your motion to only allow one of them on the eastern property line or western property line. And we want to add in some stipulations.

3:45:02 – 3:45:13Speaker 12

It looks like the so-called carport, like when you drive in, doesn't look like from this angle of the picture, you could put a car under it. That's just more of a porch covering.

3:45:18Speaker 18

This one on the left side? Mm-hmm.

3:45:21Speaker 12

It's not a car. It's your driver, Mini Cooper.

3:45:23Speaker 1

Our motorcycle.

3:45:24Speaker 12

Motorcycle, yeah.

3:45:26Speaker 29

The applicant may be able to answer the question whether their vehicle can fit under one or both.

3:45:33Speaker 12

Could you come forward and address that question for us, please?

3:45:39Speaker 14

Are you talking the one on the left-hand side, right? Yes, sir. That can fit a motorcycle in there.

3:45:45Speaker 12

Is that what it was built for, is to put your motorcycle under it?

3:45:49Speaker 14

Yeah, it's a small stuff in there, yeah.

3:45:59Speaker 18

Any other board discussion or motion?

3:46:02 – 3:46:13Speaker 8

This one's a tough one. It looks great, but it's one of our own, too. But I'm looking for guidance here.

3:46:16Speaker 3

I have an issue with the... Excuse me. Sorry. And we put up page 14.

3:46:21Speaker 5

You can continue.

3:46:26Speaker 3

You can continue, Ms. Herrera. I want to read something while we're in discussion. Okay. I'm sorry. Page 14. I mean, 13.

3:46:43 – 3:47:13Speaker 12

It's a huge amount, 98% coverage when 50% is allowed. That's astronomical and I don't, I can't remember if in the pictures that they provided, I think it happened whenever the previous owner was there and did the The Rodham Gate and the, okay, thank you. Oh no, it wasn't.

3:47:14Speaker 8

He admitted he did that.

3:47:16Speaker 12

No, he did the carports.

3:47:18Speaker 8

Oh no, he did the concrete.

3:47:20Speaker 8

Yeah, he admitted to that.

3:47:23Speaker 8

Is that true?

3:47:26Speaker 14

Yeah, most of that concrete was on my behalf, but as you can see on the 2022, there was already concrete set in there.

3:47:39Speaker 12

that would look like it for a driveway. Okay, thank you.

3:47:49 – 3:49:21Speaker 21

For discussion with everyone. So here's kind of some thoughts that are going through my head. It looks great now. I like, you know, it looks well put together. Some concerns I have. are that it was constructed without permits previously. And then in a situation like these, what we would look at would be what hardships, in order to approve something like this to go in, between special exceptions or variances. We've seen previous cases today where in front of build line requests have been made. We've also seen requests for side yard setbacks. consistent with the other things we've seen throughout the day. There's some things in this that I have no problem with, but there are some that I'm finding difficulty being able to proceed forward with accepting, and specifically the carpets protruding out so far, like we saw in the previous case. So I'm open to thoughts, perspectives.

3:49:21 – 3:49:36Speaker 18

Yeah, I likewise probably have less concern about the fence. Given, I guess, especially given the age, I think I saw something about 1994, 1995, the one that's been around. I've got more concerns about the dry, the extra concrete in the carports.

3:49:39 – 3:50:55Speaker 12

I'm the same. The fence... Normally I would be against that, but because they've provided that there's pictures, providing these are correct pictures. The fence has been there. The other thing is allowing the carports to be there and then other neighbors seeing and not thinking that they have to meet certain standards and then just keeps going on and on. My thought would be the amount of concrete that is bothersome to me, removing perhaps the left carport. But if you do that, at least that would give the drive up. And car could go there, although it doesn't possibly completely cover it. But then you could make the rest of the, where the concrete is now, the yard and remove that bigger carport so that you're not at 98% of concrete. Just talking out loud.

3:50:59 – 3:51:35Speaker 8

I think 2014 had the right idea. You guys see the picture 2014 in front of you? Mm-hmm. That's kind of what we're trying to shoot for is have some green area. And then 2025 is just an overkill of, I mean, it's a great convenience, but the rules are written specifically to avoid this. Problem's already been built. So we have a tough decision to make. And I don't think there's going to be any way to mitigate. I don't think we can allow to just let it go. We can decide that here.

3:51:37Speaker 12

Would everyone, sorry, go ahead, Stuffy.

3:51:43Speaker 4

Please go ahead.

3:51:46 – 3:52:00Speaker 11

I guess my preference would be repurpose, take down the right-hand carport and repurpose it and allow them to have a sizable one on the left, up on the driveway side.

3:52:06Speaker 18

What would you do about the concrete? Would you take it out?

3:52:14 – 3:52:28Speaker 11

You know, I mean, can we make a, get a lot of potted plants option? It's behind a fence. It's not really, he's got some nice grass in front of it. To me, that's not hurting the neighbors, but...

3:52:37 – 3:52:52Speaker 21

I have another question. So is there any kind of something that has sat here so long that the applicant would have allowances to keep it? That's a legal question, I think.

3:52:54 – 3:53:34Speaker 29

If the applicant was able to prove legal nonconforming status of the used property, he would have to prove that it was legally established. The ordinance that put the front yard regulations in place for the fencing, I believe, was in 1992. And they shared that the fence was constructed in 1995. we weren't able to find any previous Board of Adjustment records for this property, so they would have to prove that it was legally established and that it's been in the same configuration since.

3:53:35Speaker 8

Right. I don't think anyone here has a problem with the fence. The fence is not the issue.

3:53:44Speaker 29

I would not say that the carport or the concrete is eligible for legal non-conformance certification.

3:53:57 – 3:54:19Speaker 3

So what did staff on page 13? Go back to that. Staff, Board of Adjustment approved nearby property owners indicate no objection.

3:54:19Speaker 18

Board of Adjustment. I don't know that there was any historical Board of Adjustment. Is that right, Sal?

3:54:35Speaker 29

We didn't find any previous Board of Adjustment actions on this property.

3:54:44 – 3:55:15Speaker 12

So amongst all of us, does anybody have, in this particular case, have an issue with The fence would be special exception B, variance C, variance D. That way we can figure out where we all kind of are and if we don't have issues there, then move on to the other two and discuss those or if we do have issues.

3:55:17Speaker 8

That's a good idea.

3:55:18Speaker 18

I don't like it, but.

3:55:19Speaker 12

Yeah, I don't either.

3:55:20Speaker 18

I could live with B, C, and D if it's just for the fence. Yes.

3:55:25Speaker 12

What's the thought process from anybody against B, C, and D that's there?

3:55:35Speaker 17

As I understand it, the requirement is four feet for a front yard fence, four feet in height.

3:55:42Speaker 29

Four feet open design.

3:55:43Speaker 17

Yeah, and this one is just a little bit over that, five?

3:55:48Speaker 29

The height of the fence varies, and so it is taller than the four feet.

3:55:54Speaker 17

I understand, but, you know, it doesn't. It's been there forever.

3:55:57Speaker 12

Was it the page with three to something height?

3:55:59 – 3:56:14Speaker 17

Yeah. Anyway, yeah, I can work on the, I mean, I can support the fence, but the others I have a real problem with.

3:56:14Speaker 11

No carport at all?

3:56:17Speaker 17

Well, the problem is the carports, what is that, A? It applies to both carports? Yes.

3:56:23Speaker 12

Can we go back to the picture that shows the house, please?

3:56:35Speaker 17

The carport on the left. Is Special Exception A addressing both carports?

3:56:43Speaker 11

Yes. It is currently, but we could put a stipulation. Okay.

3:56:48Speaker 18

Make sure and use your mic. Okay.

3:56:53 – 3:57:14Speaker 5

I have a concern. And in the photographs, if you look at the year 2014, there's a pretty mature tree. 2018, it's gone. 2022, it's gone. Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong. And then 2023, it's back.

3:57:18Speaker 12

Interesting. Good call out.

3:57:31Speaker 8

Swap 18 and 23 would be more correct.

3:57:37Speaker 11

It's a miracle.

3:57:47Speaker 17

There's some fast-growing trees here.

3:58:00Speaker 5

Just an observation.

3:58:03 – 3:58:18Speaker 8

Would we be agreeable to get rid of the right carport, let them get a bigger left carport, and remove the concrete on the right side, put some grass there?

3:58:20 – 3:58:50Speaker 21

I'm gonna bring up some additional stuff that I can see on Google Maps. So you go down the street, one, two, three, four houses, this exact same situation is happening. I know that doesn't make anything relevant. I'm curious from a legal standpoint, what statute of limitations for something like this under latching is that?

3:58:52 – 3:59:22Speaker 6

let our council say generally statutes limitations don't run against political subdivisions yet true um also just not something this board really has to concern itself with similarly while for special exceptions you can take into account what's going on down the street remember that your decisions on they don't carry precedential weight from one to the next you're making a decision on each case individually particularly for variances.

3:59:24 – 3:59:42Speaker 17

I have another question as well. If they were to either continue this, if we were to continue it, and give them a chance to go to make a zoning change application, could they seek a zoning change for all of these things?

3:59:43 – 3:59:57Speaker 29

So the requirement for driveway coverage for most of the residential zoning districts, I believe all of the residential zoning districts is 50% of the driveway, as well as the special exception for a carport will still be required.

3:59:57 – 4:00:10Speaker 17

I understand, but couldn't the city council or the zoning commission grant a change in zoning to zone this plan development or something that would be? I think that's what we're here for.

4:00:10Speaker 29

So that would be considered spot zoning?

4:00:13 – 4:01:01Speaker 6

Yeah, we usually discourage going around the Board of Adjustment in that manner. And actually, it's not consistent with our PD zoning ordinance to do so. I will say, though, to your point about continuing the case, at least potentially for if you feel like there are items that may need more work. Uh, for instance, if, if a motion were to remove part of a carport or something like that, I think that's going to have an impact on them. Probably the, the, uh, concrete and the percentages on the other. And I don't know that staff feels comfortable figuring that out on the fly, on the spot. So, um, that may be something that it would be worth continuing so that the applicant could continue to work with staff if they're, uh, on possible alternatives.

4:01:02 – 4:01:29Speaker 10

GREG BRUDNICKI Um, can I ask a question? Like we mentioned, maybe splitting this up, B, C, and D. Could we go ahead and consider that? Yeah, you can make... Continue A and E for the applicant to come in. Again, they're watching what's going on. They're hearing, seeing and hearing this. And come back, let them, give them a chance to come back with a change on A and E that... Might be more palatable.

4:01:30 – 4:01:42Speaker 6

Yeah, you could certainly take each one of these separately and continue A and E, and the board can make a decision on B, C, and D. Ms. Duffy, do you have something?

4:01:42 – 4:02:00Speaker 11

So in the past, I've thought the ordinance was 50% concrete coverage of your front yard, but I've heard reference today driveway 50%. So if he makes an elaborate front walk, can he keep more of that concrete?

4:02:00Speaker 29

It's the front yard coverage, 50%.

4:02:03Speaker 11

So it doesn't matter how much is sidewalk and how much is driveway?

4:02:07Speaker 29

It's the area between the front property line and the front wall of the home.

4:02:14Speaker 21

And is that specific to permeable surfaces or concrete specifically?

4:02:22 – 4:02:33Speaker 29

I would say that it be, we'll have to double check. You're asking if it could be like crushed gravel or something of that nature?

4:02:34Speaker 21

Crushed gravel or similar to like the Connex building over at Evans and Rosedale, which has, yeah.

4:02:38 – 4:02:53Speaker 29

If it's a dust-free surface that is binded, I believe. Mary, are you familiar with, the regulations for the material allowed in the front yard?

4:02:56 – 4:03:17Speaker 28

So in the front yard, they may not place anything that creates dust. So it has to be dust free or loose. So anything that, I believe it's permeable, but I'm looking at the, trying to look at the ordinance right now. If you'll give me just one minute.

4:03:21 – 4:04:47Speaker 21

I may say something additionally while you're looking at that. So looking at this case, my approach would be to consider what considerations would be made if it wasn't built. And that would be, like previously been said, the concrete coverage or nonpermeable coverage, the carport, what hardships the applicant has, and what we would be able to grant via special exception versus a variance. And I think what's been proposed is the BC&D that most of us or all of us don't seem to have a problem with. And then when it comes to the carports, a option that would be whether now being post-built or pre-built and requested if they have a legitimate hardship that would be acceptable. So summarizing that, I'm having difficulty being able to proceed forward with keeping the carport on the right with all the concrete. I can see a path forward for a special exception to a carport had an applicant just came with this 2023 photo saying we have nowhere to park. We're already parking in front of the build line. We just want to cover it.

4:04:54Speaker 8

I think that's as reasonable as we can be.

4:04:59 – 4:05:14Speaker 11

Well, yeah, I think that one carport is probably a good option, but again, if we could do like, I hate to make him dig up all that concrete that he's put down there nicely, if we could think of a workaround for that, but.

4:05:15Speaker 8

Why don't we continue A, an echo, alpha and echo and vote on Bravo, Charlie and Delta.

4:05:24 – 4:05:37Speaker 18

Like to make a motion? Or do you want to first, you want to ask the applicant just to make sure that we've been talking about a bunch of different options. Like that. Yeah. Sir, if you'd come up and just, Mr. Garza, you want to summarize it or do you?

4:05:37Speaker 8

You've been listening to what we're talking about. Yes. We're trying real hard.

4:05:40 – 4:06:56Speaker 14

No, no, no. I hear you. And the reason that I did that, I know it's my fault for not getting no permits. But the deal is I don't want to park my vehicles outside. Especially because the neighborhood where I live out there, back then I ran with somebody that opened one of my vehicles and stole some property off of there. That's the reason that we did it like that. As you can see on picture 2018, I can only park maybe two cars because the fence gate is not gonna be allowing me to kinda close it to lock my vehicles inside my property on the fence line. And that's the reason we took that other side so we can park right in there and we also kind of build that cover to kind of prevent it from all these hell damages that we get sometimes you know because it's uh texas weather is crazy you never know what to expect from it you know and if you don't have no room where am i going to run to you know the closest thing that i got is 287 under the bridge to go in there you know by the time i get there you know my vehicles are going to be damaged. And, you know, sometimes when you're not ready for that, you'll be out of luck.

4:06:56 – 4:07:53Speaker 18

Yeah, and you can kind of hear where we're going with the conversation, though. What people are having the most issue with is the concrete coverage and the two carports. Yes. So would the option that I think some people have acquiesced around is maybe continuing... those two, so it would be A and E, a special exception for the carports and the variance of the driveway coverage, potentially continuing those, meaning you would go further with the development staff here at the city to come up with some different options or different, it basically would help you continue the conversation without getting a denial today. So really what we're asking is, are you amenable to that, are you open to that, me having a further continuing conversation about A and E? Or do you want to have a vote on all, or do you want to have a decision today on all five of these? That's really the question.

4:07:54Speaker 14

It's kind of hard. Like whenever you say voting and then

4:07:59Speaker 18

I don't know which way to go. What we're trying to do is we would basically be able to split them up. Sorry, Mr. Qualls.

4:08:06 – 4:08:30Speaker 6

Yeah, I was just going to say, if it helps, I think what the chair is explaining is they can vote on all of them today if you get a denial on some, depending on whether that denial is with or without prejudice. that could mean you can't come back and work with staff, as opposed to if you continue some of those items, you can continue to work with staff on potentially finding a solution.

4:08:30 – 4:08:49Speaker 18

And what we're going through is there's five. This is a lot for us to go through, a lot of different options. We're trying to ask you, do you want a decision today? Do you want to try to work with staff? We're trying to be open to kind of what you're thinking in terms of wanting to work on this further or have some decisions.

4:08:52Speaker 18

I don't know if I'm explaining that correctly, but sorry, go ahead.

4:08:55Speaker 14

Yeah, I guess just let it keep on going and see.

4:09:01Speaker 10

You mean continue? Do you want us to vote?

4:09:05Speaker 29

Keep going with the vote for the board's actions today or continue to the October meeting?

4:09:13Speaker 11

I think he'd like the fence.

4:09:14Speaker 14

October meeting.

4:09:16Speaker 11

Okay. We can vote on the fence today.

4:09:19Speaker 18

Right, I think so. I think that's where I'm kind of headed, is we would vote on B, C, and D today, potentially be open to continuance on A and E. Is that what I'm hearing? That's correct.

4:09:31Speaker 18

Okay, thank you, sir.

4:09:32 – 4:09:46Speaker 3

Does the applicant have the option to have a continuance on all of them, and that we suggest a continuance on A and E mainly?

4:09:47 – 4:10:04Speaker 6

I think we can do what we want to do for sure. Yeah, you could certainly continue them all as well if the applicant would like to wait on all of them. You know, if that's something he's interested in, you may want to ask. The board could also, excuse me, the board could also consider BCND today as well.

4:10:05Speaker 10

You know, it might be cleaner if we just continued the whole thing.

4:10:08 – 4:10:19Speaker 11

I think that causes extra work for staff to represent it and re-notice it and all those little tiny things. And if we're prepared to give him that one today, we might as well just get that off the plate.

4:10:19 – 4:10:53Speaker 29

So if all of them are continued, it won't be any extra work for staff because we've already noticed it. It won't have to be re-noticed. This presentation will stay the same unless his site design changes. We'll just... adjust the staff report. I would suggest continuing to October meeting versus September because it seems like he has to go back to the drawing board to figure out his site plan and how he wants to set up the carports and remove or adjust the driveway coverage.

4:10:56 – 4:11:17Speaker 8

The only variable is right now we're amenable for the feds. In October, we don't know who's going to be up here. We might have, you know, and we hate to shoot them down then. So my suggestion would be that we wait on A and E and then vote on B, C, and D and continue alpha and echo.

4:11:18 – 4:12:02Speaker 3

My suggestion is that we will wait on all of them so it'd be clear. And give them the opportunity to continue to work with staff because they may come up with a better solution to present. Give them that option versus limiting them. We're not here to marshal people how to... make, make adjustments as well as to come in alignment, but we are, uh, at liberty to give them the opportunity to be, uh, to come into compliance.

4:12:03 – 4:12:19Speaker 6

Yeah, and I would suggest, Chair, you may want to just, um, consult with the applicant and ask if he's, he would rather here have the fence decided today as well and continue the rest or if he would rather a continuance of all. And then of course the board can always make whatever decision.

4:12:20 – 4:12:54Speaker 18

Yeah, Mr. Garza, that's the one thing I'm worried about is if we approve BC&D but they come up with some different site plan or something with, you know what I mean? We've already locked in on BC&D. I totally get it though that you might get approval today versus October. But sir, could you come back up? The question now is, Would you prefer to wait on all five for October, and that would give you kind of more options or more discussions to have with staff, or would you want to have B, C, and D, which are very focused on the fence?

4:12:55Speaker 14

Yeah, I'll just go with A, B, C, and D, the one for the fence.

4:13:00Speaker 18

You want to go ahead and you feel comfortable with B, C, and D? Yes. Okay, thank you. Okay, so there you go.

4:13:07 – 4:13:26Speaker 8

I'd like to make a motion on BAR-26-071. I'd like to vote separately on B, C, and D, and then wait on alpha and echo, a continuance till October.

4:13:27Speaker 29

And your motion is to approve B, C, and D?

4:13:33Speaker 18

Can we get his mic turned back on or?

4:13:40 – 4:13:52Speaker 8

One, two. There you go. Vote B, C, and D for approval as written as one unit. And then on E and A, it continues until October.

4:13:53Speaker 18

So two votes. Two votes. B, C, and D together. A and E together. Two separate votes. I second. Second, Mr. Gutierrez. Thank you.

4:14:08 – 4:14:19Speaker 18

Yes, staff, could we please perform a roll call vote? As I understand it, the motion was to approve BC&D as written together, one vote. The second part of the motion, same motion.

4:14:20Speaker 3

Are you okay with that, Mr. Johnson?

4:14:23Speaker 17

Mr. Separation is okay with that. Yes, please. Thanks for asking, by the way.

4:14:29Speaker 18

The second part of the same motion, as I understand it, is to continue A&E to the October meeting.

4:14:36Speaker 8

That's correct. Thank you.

4:14:37Speaker 18

Okay. Motion by Mr. Gardner, second by Mr. Gutierrez. Can we please perform a roll call vote?

4:14:43 – 4:15:20Speaker 29

Yes, and I'll just restate that for the record. There's a motion to approve Special Exception B, Variant C, and Variant D for case BAR-26-071 as requested, and also to continue Special Exception A and Variant E to the October public hearing. Motion made by Board Member Sergio Garza and seconded by Board Member Madsen Gutierrez. Roll call vote. We will take the vote for the continuance of A&E first. Board Member Jim Whitten.

4:15:21Speaker 29

Board Member Sergio Garza. Yes. Board Member Michael Johnston. Yes. Board Member Sandra King. Yes. Board Member Whit Wollman.

4:15:30Speaker 29

Board Member Jana Herrera. Yes. Board Member Lucretia Powell. Yes. Board Member Kay Duffy. Yes. Board Member Mattson Gutierrez.

4:15:40Speaker 29

Board member Eric Ortega.

4:15:42Speaker 29

Board member Juan Manuel Costa.

4:15:45 – 4:16:04Speaker 29

The motion passes to continue. Now we'll take the vote for the approval of special exception B, variance C, and variance D. Roll call vote. Board member Jim Whitten.

4:16:05 – 4:16:29Speaker 29

Board member Sergio Garza. Yes. Board member Michael Johnston. Yes. Board member Bob, I'm sorry, Sandra King. Yes. Board member Whit Wollman. Yes. Board member Jana Herrera. Yes. Board member Lucretia Powell. Yes. Board member Kay Duffy. Yes. Board member Mattson Gutierrez. Yes. Board member Eric Ortega. Yes. Board member Juan Manuel Acosta. Yes. The motion passes.

4:16:31 – 4:16:52Speaker 18

Okay, sir. So you have been approved on B, C, and D. So should you have any questions, please reach out to city staff as early as tomorrow on those. For A and E, those have been continued to the October meeting. So I would certainly reach out to them and start working on some options and ideas for that. Thank you very much. Okay. Looks like, yep, go ahead.

4:16:53Speaker 29

I'll just state for the record, case BAC-26-023 has been administratively withdrawn by the zoning administrator.

4:17:05Speaker 18

All right. That was the final item on our agenda. We are adjourned.

4:17:09Speaker 29

There is lunch downstairs. Please, please eat it.

4:17:16Speaker 7

Please don't go home.

4:17:25Speaker 17

World's record right there.

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