City Commission - Regular Meeting

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call this PMPO Beach City Commission meeting to order May 12th, 20126. If I could ask everyone if they've got further conversation, please take them out in the lobby. Also, at this time, if you could please silence your cell phones or put them on vibrate during the meeting, that would be great so we don't get disturbed during the meeting by a telephone call. Thank you for that. Let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fez here. Commissioner Perkins here. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton here. Commissioner Smith here. Vice Mayor Fornier here. Mayor Harden here. Our invocation today is going to be given by Pastor Gary McLemore with Jesus Supernatural Life Center. Could we all please rise for the invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance? Pastor

morning, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners. Father, thank you for this time that we gather here to do business for this city. Thank you for each and every one of our commissioners. We ask that you bless, guide, direct all of the decisions that are being made today. Let your wisdom come forth in the precious and wonderful name of Jesus. We thank you for all of the citizens of this city. We give praise and honor to you in Jesus majestic name. Amen. Amen.

Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. All right. Can I get a motion approving the city commission budget workshop minutes of April 14th, 2026? So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Thank you. Can I get a motion approving the special city commission meeting minutes of April 22nd, 2026? So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I.

Opposed. Covers. Goes unanimous. Thank you. Can I get a final um regular city commission meeting minutes of April 28, 2026? Move approval. So moved. Second. And second. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Motion carries. Unanimous. Great. Mr. Harrison, any changes to our agenda today? No, sir. Very good. Can I get a motion approving the agenda as printed? So moved. Second. Second. All in favor say I. I. I.

Opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Thank you. On our consent agenda this afternoon, we'll be pulling item number one for individual discussion. So, one will be pulled, but items two, three, and four are eligible for discussion during audience to be heard if anyone chooses to address those items. Very good. All right, that takes us up to our proclamations. First off, on on top, we've got National Safe Boating Week. We'll be proclaiming May 16th through 22nd, 2026 as National Safe Boating Week in PMPO Beach. PMPO Beach, US Coast Guard Auxiliary, Flotella 34. Commander George Genhower, Jen Gianhower, excuse the expression, um the pronunciation, will accept the proclamation with other Flotella members in attendance right over here at the side podium. They can all meet me there.

Hello, sir. Good to see you. That's great. Thank you for your service, all of you. Let's see. Yeah, this is the one. All right. Yeah, site over in this area. That'll be great. Thank you. We've got some active duty service members with us today also. Thank you very much for your service, gentlemen. All of you. Whereas for more than 100 million Americans, recreational boating remains a popular and cherished activity, providing opportunities for families and individuals to enjoy the waterways through boating, sailing, paddling, and fishing. And whereas National Safe Boating Week observed May 16th through May 22nd, 2026 is a nationwide effort led by the US Coast Guard and the National Safe Boating Council in partnership with federal, state, and local agencies to promote responsible boating and water safety. And whereas the city of Pmpo Beach with its extensive coastline, waterways, and vibrant boating community recognizes the importance of promoting safe boating practices to protect residents and visitors enjoying our coastal and inland waters. And whereas the US Coast Guard reports that human error is the leading cause of boating accidents and that nearly 75% of boating fatalities could be prevented by the proper use of life jackets. On average, approximately 650 people lose their lives each year in boating related accidents in the United States with the majority of these fatalities resulting from drowning and often involving the absence of life jacket use. And whereas safe boating begins with preparation, including wearing life jackets, carrying emergency distress and communication equipment, completing boating safety courses, participating in vessel safety checks, and operating vessels responsibly and free from impairment.

And whereas National Safe Boating Week serves as the annual launch of the Safe Boating Campaign, a year-round initiative dedicated to reducing preventable boating accidents and promoting a culture of safety on the water. And whereas promoting boating safety enhances the well-being of our community and helps ensure that Pompo Beach remains a safe and enjoyable destination for recreational boating and water-based activities. Now therefore, I may, Mayor Rex Harden, on behalf of the entire city commission and residents of the city of Pmpo Beach, do hereby proclaim May 16th through May 22nd, 2026 as safe boating week in the city of PMPO Beach, and urge all residents and visitors to practice safe boating habits. Wear life jackets at all times while on the water and take advantage of available safety education resources to ensure a safe and enjoyable boating season. on this 12th day of May, 2026. Rex Harden, Mayor, thank you so much for all you do to keep us safe on the water, gentlemen. Anyone care to say a few words?

No. Very good. All right. Well, thank you so much. Appreciate all the work you do every every year. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for your service. Appreciate it.

All right. Next up, we've got mental health health awareness month. Let's see. We've got Judy Abello from the National Alliance on Mental Illness, Broward County Adi Advocacy Group. Very good. Thank you so much for being here. Let's see. No. Good, good, good, good. Let's see. No, that's not it. Let's make sure we got the right one. Here we go. Thank you for being here. Thank you.

All right. Whereas the mission of the National Alliance on Mental Illness of Broward, NAMI Broward, is to enhance awareness and provide programs in Broward County that support a world-class system for the treatment and recovery of individuals facing mental health challenges. NAMI Broward delivers support, education, and advocacy to nurture better understanding, coping strategies, and positive outcomes for people and their families navigating the complexities of mental health. And whereas mental health conditions are treatable health concerns that are widespread and manageable. And whereas comprehensive health care encompasses mental health care which must be accessible to all individuals irrespective of race, gender, age, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, values, and cultural beliefs. It is vital that these factors are integrated into treatment, allowing the community to become a bastion of support. And whereas the breadth of the mental health crisis affecting both children and adults is profound. One in five adults will encounter a mental health challenge in any given year. Half of all mental health conditions begin by age 14 and 75% by 24 years old. Prompt intervention leads to more favorable outcomes. And whereas half of the children and adults living with mental health challenges never receive transformative treatment due to barriers to care and stigma. The resilience and recovery journey for of individuals diagnosed with a mental health condition should be celebrated rather than stigmatized. And whereas mental health challenges are not criminal issues. Nonetheless, individuals with mental health diagnoses are disproportionately represented in jails and prisons. NAMI commends the implementation of crisis intervention training for law enforcement officers, diversion programs, and mobile crisis response teams that effectively reduce

involvement in the justice system and enhance safety. And whereas individuals experiencing mental health challenges are capable of leading me meaningful lives and contributing significantly to society. Communities aid those with mental health challenges by ensuring access to quality care and appropriate supports. And whereas NAMI Broward designates the month of May as mental health awareness month month to promote mental health awareness to inspire those living with mental health challenges to seek support and to be uplifted by our message. You are not alone. And now therefore, I, Rex Harden, mayor of the city of Pmpo Beach, on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim May as mental health awareness month in the city of PMPO Beach and urge all residents in our community to commit to increasing awareness and understanding of mental illnesses, reducing stigma and discrimination while promoting and working to provide appropriate and accessible services for all people. done this 12th day 12 12th day of May 2026. Rex Harden mayor, thank you so much for what you do for all those in our community, especially those suffering from mental illness. Thank you so much. Here to say a couple of words.

Um I just wanted to take a moment. Sorry I'm short. It's okay. Obviously, um my name is Judy Abello. I'm here to represent Nami Broward and I just wanted to thank the city of Pompo Beach, the mayor, the commissioners, and the city staff for taking a moment or taking a month to recognize this. Um, through actions like this, we're able to dstigmatize mental health and we're able to tell people that they're not alone and that's incredibly important when you're dealing with mental health challenges. Thank you.

Thank you. Appreciate it. All right, moving along. That takes us up to water reuse week. Miss Muhammad, here we go. All right, Miss Muhammad and crew. All right. Good seeing you you all. Thank you. All right. Whereas safe, clean, and sustainable water resources are essential to Florida's environment, economy, citizens, and visitors. And whereas although Florida's water supplies are finite, the state's population and need for water resources continue to increase. And whereas water reuse provides a mean for conser a means for conserving and augmenting Florida's precious water resources. And whereas Florida has established the encouragement and promotion of water reuse as state objectives in chapter 373 and 403 in the Florida statutes. And whereas Florida has risen to be a national leader in water reuse, reusing approximately 958 million gallons of reclaimed water per day. more than 56% of the wastewater treated to conserve freshwater supplies and recharge our freshwater resources. And whereas Florida's permitted reuse capacity is more than 1.6 billion gallons per day, approximately 62% of Florida's total permitted capacity for all domestic wastewater treatment facilities. And whereas May, typically a dry month when water demands are high, is a good time

to educate the public on how they can help save Florida's precious water resources through water reuse. And whereas Water Reuse Florida, the state's section of the Water Reuse Association, has proclaimed the week of May 17th through 23rd, 2026 as Florida Water Reuse Week. And whereas the city of Pmpo Beach utilities department has joined with water reuse Florida to encourage and promote water reuse and conservation. And whereas the city of Pmpo Beach has implemented a water reuse program and encourages efficient and effective use of reclaimed water. Now therefore, I, Mayor Rex Harden, on behalf of the entire city commission and residents of the city of PMPO Beach, do hereby proclaim the week of May 17 through 23rd, 2026 as water reuse week in the city of PMPO Beach and encourage all residents, businesses, and institutions to help protect our shared water future by reclaimed water by you by using reclaimed water wisely and conserving water every day. Done this 12th day of May, 2026. Rick, Rex Harden, Mayor, thank you all so much for what you do for this particular precious resource. Care to say a few words, Miss Muhammad?

With me today is the treatment plan superintendent, Phil Hire, and field superintendent, Nathaniel Watson. On behalf of the city of Pompa Beach utilities department, we would like to thank the mayor, vice mayor, and commission for recognizing water reuse week and the city's longstanding commitment to sustainability and water conservation conservation. The city's reuse program known as Oasis, our alternative supply irrigation system, was initiated back in 1989 to help protect the Biscane aquifer and the city's eastern wellfield from saltwater intrusion while conserving portable water supply. The reuse water produced by the Oasis program meets all state and federal regulatory requirements and is primarily used for irrigation of the city's golf course, community parks, traffic medians, and more than 1,600 residential reuse customers both in PMPO Beach and Lighthouse Point. This year, the utilities department also completed the Harbor Village reuse expansion project, providing reuse access to more than 500 additional customers. Every gallon of reuse water for irrigation saves one gallon of drinking water, helping preserve our portable water resources for future generations while reducing stress on the Biscane aquifer as South Florida continues to face population growth and climate change challenges. We are proud to continue leading by example in water conservation, sustainability, and environmental stewardship. Thank you very much.

Very good. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. And I I can tell you on behalf of the entire city commission, if you could wave your magic wand and figure out how to get more money to put the the purple pipes in throughout this city, you would have a lot more customers because I think every district would love to have reuse in their in their uh their area. So, thank you so much for what you do and keep up the good work. Great job. Thank you. Phil, would you stay there with the mayor, please? Uh oh. What' you do? Not going to do this.

What' you do? So, uh I want everybody to uh give a big round of applause to Mr. Phil Hire here. He is retiring after 41 years. Wow. Thank you so much, Will you get a picture? Get a picture, please. Get on the ball here. Come on. Thank you for what you've been doing for 41 years. We're losing too much institutional knowledge.

All right. All right. All right. Thank you for that. That takes us up to audience to be heard. Do we have anyone signed up for audience to be heard? Alfred, we do, mayor. We have eight speakers. Very good. First speaker, Vincent Pavoski. Pavosowski, followed by Pat Anderson, followed by Tangi Jackson. Vince Vincent,

just please come forward to the main podium here. Just give your name and address for the record and limit your comments to three minutes. Thank you.

Good afternoon everybody. My name is Vincent Pavloki, 328 North Ocean Boulevard, PMPO Beach, Florida. I'm here today to say thank you to the commission, the mayor's office, and most uh certainly Commissioner Fezik for her diligence in getting our situation across at the Bermuda House Condo Association. uh with the street lights, the turtle lights and the sidewalk. Um once I recognized that it was a danger for a lot of people, I sent an email to Commissioner Fessic and with a month's time, the entire project was completed. So, I applaud each and every one of you for the diligence that you guys do every day. I know a lot of people don't give you guys phrases all the time, but I'm here to say thank you. Thank you, sir. What you do?

We appreciate it. Thank you. So, and let thank you for letting us know about important to me to come here today and and let everybody know. Thank you, Commissioner Fess.

Thank you. So, first of all, thank you so much for coming out. Appreciate it. But I want to make sure that your email to us collectively was also equally kind where you noted the hard work of staff and hard work of the workers themselves, even their kindness that went over and above to help people cross the road. Right. The contractor that took part, I don't want to take up too much time, but the contractor that did the job was very accommodating. And I noticed an act of kindness when elder an elderly resident from the Parliament House was on our side of the street and wanted to cross. They stopped traffic on both directions and physically walked this resident across the street. That takes phase to where you guys vet vendors. Thank you for all you do. Thank you.

You good. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Next speaker, Pat Anderson. I wanted to

I'll hold it up. I'm sorry. Uh this is uh good afternoon wonderful mayor commissioners lion. I'm Pat Anderson Wetstein. I'm married got married in 2024. Um, this is a painting I did. I didn't realize what this day was going to be like. But this is my house here that is part of 24th Street that makes a dip, goes over Grand Canal and out. This whole strip is 24th Street. Everything to the north is Lighthouse Point. Everything to the south it's PPO Beach including Sailfish Canal. There are 50 one millionaires on my canal. I'm only 825. So this is the pink church and there was a smash here and no one's talking about it. It's like a big onion with a lot of bad layers. And I couldn't believe when I came into here. I was a little early because I knew I didn't have time to make my computers work right to get the copy that you're supposed to write. So anyway, I had this and I couldn't believe it was already in the hallway. Um, zip codes and

house numbers have been tampered with on Broward County Property Appraisers and for four years we 50 people have gone to value adjustment board and they bury it and Mark Burman gaslights me and Fornier and Perkins and Fessic, you girls deserve a gold star because of this permitting changes on the tampering of records. The value adjustment board does not get it right. Finally, we had permit number 14 that was given to me and I have copies in a big envelope. In fact, I have a whole big pink because of the pink church got damaged and there's no records of it. Mario did not inspect. And I said to him the other day before the big meeting, I had a cold, so I didn't stay. But I said, Mario, why didn't you make inspections on this? And he said, I wasn't told to. I said, what do you mean you weren't told to? He said, "No, I was told that I was to leave it to John the engineer Sarafos and that's what you got to be careful of."

Okay. I love y'all and this is going to become a very big trial federal because they sold it to a Canadian. Very good. Thank you, Miss Anderson. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Anyway, this is what it looks like. Very good. Thank you, Miss Anderson. Appreciate it. It's all about voting and redistricting. All right. Have a great day. Okay. So, here I am. Okay. Thank you. Next speaker, Tanky Jackson, followed by Minnie Frraasier, followed by Frasier. Sorry about that.

Good afternoon. I'm Tangi Jackson. Address 841 Northwest 6th Avenue. Hello everyone. It's been a minute since I've been here. I'm actually here today because of what was posted on Miss Allison Porno Facebook page regarding Kodak Black. It was an incident that happened over two years ago. I actually was there when it happened, but it made national news because of the understanding of the walkthrough that he had to do. And reason why I'm speaking today because everything negative that he does always seems to make somebody Facebook page but everything positive that he does never makes it there. He have a video that went viral two 27,000 27K where he gave out dirt bikes to kids. This little boy in this video is my grandson, Joseph Robinson III. His mom just did eight years in the military in the US Army. The day that he gave him this dirt bike, he wasn't one of the kids that was selected, he was just sitting on it at the end of Kodak Black Day. And he asked him, he said, "You like that dirt bike you sitting on?" He was like, "Yes, sir." He said, "You want it?" He was like, "Yes, sir. Can I have it? Not knowing his mom was over there fighting for our country, his grandma disability can't that can't afford these kind of things made his day. And I'm here to say this and not just for youth vice mayor also miss. It's a lot of people in this community that does a lot of wonderful things. And

also thank you for awarding Miss Sharon Stone Walker and Miss Sarah Peterson. That was long overdue. When I say long overdue, long overdue. They have paid these payments, the payment and pumping over so many years with no recognition. But if you can't build somebody up, don't tear them down. Even kids look at social media and even though it was taken down, it was something that my dad always told us, if you don't if you can't build somebody up, don't tear them down. And being a leader in this community, we look up to everybody that's on this podium. And I didn't feel like it just was a good look because it was something that had happened over two years ago, but made national news all over again. Ever since y'all awarded him, he's like changed and but you're not in our community with him. So, you can't see that hands on. So, I I would ask that you take the time and walk the streets with them before you tear them down again. Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am. Next speaker. Hello there. My name is Minnie Frasier and I resides here and throughout the state of Florida. I'm my local resident. You can put it as 2630 Northwest 13th Street. That will work for now. But meanwhile, I would like to say I'm very proud of you. And it this moment was for me to be here because when you all gave uh Mr. Kodiak Black the keys to the city, I just happened to be in town. I just happened to be at a yacht show in West Palm Beach and I just happened to come here to my resident where I can stay a few days and this issue was brought to me but my thing is company know I'm still proud of you and I look at you all and I know with the country we living in now with everything going on in Washington I know there's a lots for us to do without tearing down each other and I know when you attach yourself to a famous person sometime if you want to go up the ladder that's fine but right now I'm saying to you chose a different way other than Mr. black and I desire for you all to excel

wherever you're trying to get to. But we have veterans here in the streets without places to go. We have children that need to be fed. We have gasoline prices that are raising up hires every day. We have a war that was called for. None of us decided this is what we wanted. Because when we decide, we all go to work. I've been here a long time. I thank God. I'm 77 years old and I walked these streets and pumping when it was nothing but dirt. When there was no pump and no and no board like this, I was here. And I do thank you all doing a good job. And some of you got enough energy to spare. Make that energy count for something. And now we got too many children. Healthc care, mental health, safety, and everything that's being brought forth today. I thank God for it and I thank God for you. But if you're going to use that energy, use it on something that count. but chose it another way because we're not at a day and time where we can get on somebody back and ride it to fame. You just chose another way and I thank you.

Thank you, ma'am. Speaker Foster, followed by Delvin King, followed by Jocelyn Jackson.

Did y'all hear my sister? I have a key to the city. Anyway, good afternoon uh to the mayor. is Beverly Perkins. To all of you that are sitting on the podium, I'm here today to speak on behalf of Mr. Kodak Black uh to talk about serious things that matters. We have a president in the White House that has publicly stated how he pulled hairs on women's privacy uh that has itself intertwined with the Epstein fouls and um that has brought upon us an illegal war with Iran. all of these things and from that more. So when it comes to a young man or young woman that has done something extraordinary in our city, we really need to appreciate that because we think about it. what whatever it was couldn't touch what our president who some people elected that's in office now. We should uh if we're going to chose an office, we should realize that people are going to follow us. Who wants to follow this type of leadership? So, I'm saying to you all, uh, I don't know a whole lot about Kodak, but Kodak lived where I lived, Golden Acres, for many of years. I was there when they had outside toilets.

So, when he can come and rise, he's a young man. He could have been my grandson to the occasion of helping poor people. Think about it. How many of you all with money to spare came out of your pocket and did this that and other for somebody that was in need? Even if it was a family member. Think about it. When you're going to say something negative, have I covered all, you know, all the pages? Have I looked up this and looked up that? You know, it's kind of embarrassing when it comes from your leadership to have something like this happen. And you know, this person should really be quiet. I mean, when you think about it, how in the world do we get a president in office with the behavior that he has? And yet, we can look at some child, some small person, and say what kind of behavior they have. I say let's think about it. God bless you.

God bless. Thank you. Next speaker. Delvin King, 2601 Northwest 12 Street. Um, I just want to look into, um, I'll be doing further research, but um, I hope that city staff and some of the commissioners are looking to the use of facilities here in Palm Beach. I hope that we're not allowing people to rent facilities and host events at facilities um, for other people. So, subleasasing facilities here in PMPO. Um, I've worked with the school board of Brow County and the school board police and we've uncovered a lot of legal facility usage um, across the district in Brow County. And I want to hope that every event, I'm not going to say any recent events or any events we've had in the past are illegal events, but I will be looking into a lot of events that have happened in the city of PMPO. And I hope that the people that have rented facilities have filled out all of the required documents, all of the required uh state, I mean, not state, city event applications. They've been vetted. They went through BSO. They went through code enforcement and every department that they went that they were supposed to go through. I just hope that we follow the process. I would do my own investigation and I'll bring back to the commission what I have found. Now to the just to comment on the Kodak Black situation. Um I understand that there was some type of

post. Um I didn't see it and it was that whatever it was it was nationwide. He he went wide um about the I guess the walkthrough that he had to do. So I hope that with this city commission um I know he got the keys to the seat keys to the city. So I hope that u any person that has the keys to the city uh we bring it back to the commission and update the city on recent arrests and everything because when it came down to me u my recent arrests my background was shared amongst everyone and we didn't have a discussion like this. So we need to move forward from whatever this discussion that we're having. Um he got arrested. It is what it is. Everybody's free to comment and say what they want to say about whatever they want to say because if I had a chance, I probably would have said I probably would have said something derogatory, but I didn't get a chance to. But anywh who, that's not here nor there. Um, let's move past this. Kodak Black, he does great things in the community. Let's move forward. Let's not make this a show. Uh, let's not put on just because it's election time. Let's move forward. Um, Vice Mayor Fonier, you're doing a great job. I follow you on social media. Keep keep it moving. Thank you so much.

Very good. Next. Joanne. Joanne, are you still here? Joan. Joan. Sorry. Joan. Yes. I apologize. I'm sorry.

I'm one pissed person. Can I talk now? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Go ahead. Just name and address for the record, please. We say what? Just name and address for the record, please. Joan Floren on Pomp Beach, Florida. You need my full address because I'll give it to you. That's okay.

Okay. We have a serious problem at the dog park and I've been reaching out to Scott Moore forever. He's useless. Everybody's useless. I don't understand why I have to pay every single year to go to this park when people are breaking the gate, destroying the park, not following rules. I've reached out multiple times to people. I I seriously need some help here. Okay. I have other people that couldn't make it today. So, here I am speaking on their behalfs, too. But, um we've asked the park rangers to come out and sit and help us with, you know, the gate or whatever. It doesn't shut. Um a lady was calling me a c-word the other day because I wouldn't hold the gate for her. I'm not holding the gate for you. I pay my price every year to go in that park. I'm not holding a gate for you. Call me whatever you want. I mean, they tell me call the police. I'm not going to call the police. This is ridiculous. Get the gate fixed. Okay? If you're charging us taxes on this place to fix it up and put grass and fresh whatever you're doing in there, and I'm paying every year to go with my dog, I don't need my dog sick from this place. I I just am asking nicely for some help, and I can't get help from nobody. That's all. I don't understand how it's so hard. You know, you pay your guys to go out there and close it every Tuesday to clean it up and pick up crap that people don't pick their own dog crap up when you you say something to someone. Hey, can you pick up your dog crap? What are you, the poop police? What I mean, come on. No, it's like, can't you read the rules? That rule sign has been on there before we even paid. I've been going there before we even paid for this park to walk into it. I'm just asking now that we pay, do something. Get the gate fixed. Have people stop yanking on it. They put their leash over it. They pull it.

They've got it broken. You have a camera up there. What's the camera for if you're not going to do anything about it? I I don't understand. I'm just I don't know where to turn. I I don't know who to ask. So, I mean, I reached out to Audrey and she said, "We have a meeting today." Well, here I am. Help me do something. Fix the gate. Make sure it shuts. It's soon as you walk in, it goes just like this. I have video of it. I took video. I I don't know. Somebody Well, M I thank you for coming forward. Mr. Harrison, I know, is is taking notes here. He'll find out what's going on with the gift. Well, I've called Scott Moore six times.

Okay. Well, m Mr. Harrison is is above Scott Moore. So, Mr. Harrison, he hears what you're saying. I really need your help, sir. Please. I'm asking nicely. You know, it it doesn't really take much to just help us call the park ranger. Oh, yeah. We'll send somebody there. And if you'd like to give your telephone number to him, he can make sure you find out what's going on. How's that? Give my number to anybody that wants to help me right now. You want me to give it to him? Just go ahead. Give it to him right now. That that'd be great. Yep. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you for coming forward.

Vicente thrower. Vicente throw up PMPO Beach. Mayor, I want to use a new um phrase that I would like for you pilot to adopt. It's called Pompo first. I'm hoping that we can some at some point have a discussion about pump first. I don't we don't know which way these taxes in Tallahass are going to be going with tax reform and so forth. So, I'm hoping that we will start looking after the pumping beach first. Mayor, as I saw pictures of you all on LinkedIn and everybody topping off over at the U of Histori and all that good stuff. Um, and I see over at the mall all the buildings going up looking all pretty and stuff where Sears used to be at. I still think about pumping first. pumping first. Mayor, I ride past the casino and I think about pumping first. I'm looking at all the stuff we're talking about downtown. I'm thinking about pumping first. Mayor, I hope and maybe we can get a report from our economic development department on how do we increase pump and 0 first because it's a consistency of me seeing a whole bunch of people moving in our Have you been down six trunk lately and see how six trunk has turned? I went down there for NAACP meeting and it was like I was like where am I? But here's the catch to it. It's not the people of the old days, us living in on sit Trump. That voting block at some point will not be a district two or whatever that CD is over there will not be an African-American elected official. I look at pump and I know we are doing

good things, but at some point we got to be pumping first. I don't see no jobs report. All I see is a bunch of attorneys that always come to us every year saying, "Give us this, give us that." And then when we say, "Well, how do we make this about Pompo?" I don't see Pompo first. If this tax reform stuff goes through, it's going to be a lot of people. Spirit Airlines built that $280 million building in Daniel Beach. And look how bad that's turning out to be. Building that look, well, it looks a beautiful beautiful building. I want to say beautiful ass building, but beautiful building. But mayor Daniel is looking and saying what did we let happen here? So mayor I'm asking this body that when people keep asking of us let's ask of them pump first because I'm really concerned about pump and we will continue to say pompo pump first. Thank you.

Thank you. Appreciate that. Next speaker, Justin Jackson. Good afternoon, Jocelyn Jackson. Take it back once you start

time. Okay. All right. We gathered today because something deeply troubling has taken place. Something that strikes the heart of the respect, integrity, and the way our leaders speak about the very people they claim to serve. Kodak Black, a trailblazer in our community. Someone who has invested time, resources, and heart into uplifting all nationalities has been publicly discredit public publicly discredit by our own vice mayor Allison Fonier. This is not just a disagreement. This is not just politics. This is a pattern of talking down to the black community while benefiting from his same from from his from his tax dollars. Kodak Black has gave back, created opportunities and standing with the community long before it was political convenient. That is what leadership looks like. That is what commitment looks like. So when someone in power chooses to discredit that work, we must call it out not of an anger but out of responsibility because leadership without accountability becomes entitlement and entitlement and entitlement has no place in public service. Let's be clear. Our vice mayor received undisclosed millions through a lawsuit, then turns around and purchased property on the east side of the tracks. If you truly cared, you wouldn't tear down the people building what you never bothered to fix. If you truly cared, you wouldn't speak about the black community like it's a burden. You will speak to us like we matter. How can you claim to care about residents when you had the opportunity to assist with the slums to be address? You're going to put my time back.

I'm being interrupted. I got freedom of speech. Didn't y'all just say that at the last meeting? Run it back, please. Please, Corvin. Run it back. Mayor, can we get clarity on that? He's interrupting me. I ain't speaking. Okay. Okay. Sus suspended. Commissioner Audrey S. Everybody got Miss Jackson. Miss Jackson, I'm I'm going to interrupt you right there. Suspend the time. Miss Lions, Vice Mayor has a question. Thank you. Are personal attacks and made up things about my personal life supposed to be a part of audience to be heard per our rules? No, the commission the excuse me, the audience addresses the full commission. No personal attacks are allowed. It's under the rules of conduct for the commission.

Okay. All due respect, Miss Lions, it's not a personal attacks. These are facts. It's a difference. Most definitely not facts. You know nothing about my life. Well, if it's a fact, if if it's not a fact, her lawyer lied about it. Okay. So, we going to move on now to continue. How can you how can you claim to care about residents when you had the opportunity to assist with the slum blight in the deplorable neighborhoods and you looked away? Because Karen is not a slogan. Miss M. I'm going I'm going to ask you is the vice mayor did not look away. Okay. She she serves on the city commission. We all serve up here. So I'm trying to make it about the slum and black areas. If people was concerned let me hold on. Let me get my point across.

I don't want to debate. The slum. It's not a debate. It's fact. If I care about the slum, I purchased property in the Northwest area. Okay. Well, that's great. That's great. Okay. So, that's what I'm saying. When you Okay, I'm moving forward. More generic. Again, I don't know that my

Aaron is showing up. Karen is showing up. Karen is investing in people, not just property. Karen is lifting up voices and not tearing down the ones doing the work. Then the question is not whether you care. The question is whether you ever did because we do matter and we're done being quiet about it. Today we stand together. We see the hypocrisy. We see the disrespect and we refuse to let anyone no matter what their title is to diminish the work of those who uplift our people. Our community is rising. Our our trailblazers are rising and we will hold every official accountable loudly, boldly and unapologetically. when you post stuff about our city manager and our mayor saying that they made a bad decision by giving a hardworking person.

Thank you, M. dedicated to the community. Thank you, Mr. Jackson. Thank you, Miss Jackson. Appreciate it. Thank you, Miss Jackson. What was that? Thank you, Miss Jackson. Mayor, Vice Mayor, thank you. Uh I I'm really actually not sure what anyone saw that had anything to do with me talking about Kodak specifically because I never have. I I I don't know him. I know he does great work in the community and perhaps you misunderstood anything I've said. Ladies and gentlemen in the audience, he told not to put Excuse me, Vice Lad. Miss Jackson, I'm going to ask you to be quiet. That's number one. Go ahead, Vice.

I was told don't put words in my mouth. So, I would appreciate not doing the same to me because and and to be quiet. And I won't be quiet because the day that you're quiet is the day things that are important begin to not matter. And my point has always been um that I'm allowed to have my views of what a standard should take to give a a key out to the city. That's that's my right to have that view. Everyone has their own right of what it takes to give a key to to our city. I've heard from countless residents who I represent who were quite upset about this actually. So, I I wish the best for Mr. Black. I I know he does great work in the community. I spend a lot of time in the Northwest community actually, Miss Jackson. And

Jack, I do. That's two, Miss Jackson. Go ahead. Thank you, Vice.

For me, the bar would be higher and I might have different standards for what it takes to give out a key to the city. And I do believe that and my post had to do with the people who gave out the key to the city without voting on it, coming up with a process, an an application, anything, just unilaterally deciding to give this out, without the consulting the rest of this board. And that was the point of my post. It had absolutely nothing to do with Mr. Black. Hopefully, he is not in trouble and does not need help. If he does, I hope he gets it. I am all for anyone who invests in our neighborhoods. all of our neighborhoods for all the work that people do. But my comment had nothing to do with what anyone here is talking about. It has to do with the process of how we give out keys to the city.

Thank you. Very good. Thank you, Ladies and gentlemen, please. That's that's that's enough. Um let's move on. Okay, that concludes audience to be heard. Yes. Thank you. Um can I get a a motion to approve items two, three, and four? So moved. Second. Moved and second. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Item one is a resolution.

Thank you. Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, city commissioners, Mr. Harrison. A resolution of the city commission of the city of Pmpo Beach, Florida, approving and authorizing the proper city officials to execute an appropriations contract between the city of Pmpo Beach and the Broward County Sheriff's Office to support the summer camp program in preventing youth violence, gang participation, anti-bullying, and other pro-social youth development services providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. This item was pulled by Commissioner Perkins. Commissioner.

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I I do support this uh summer camp. I just need you to explain to me about the 25 I'm sorry, 23,000. Is that coming out of the city's budget? Yes, ma'am. Joshua Waters, the city's budget director. Yes, ma'am. That's coming out of the city's budget. We budget um have budgeted historically for this program every year in a non-EP departmental account specifically for the Broward Sheriff's Office summer grant program. This year for 26, the amount is 23,000. The same amount was provided in FY25. Um in FY23 and 24 was a little bit less at 20 20,000.

Right. I do know that this is a PMPO project. Are we also paying for the SRO's is BSO paying for anything? So the SRO contract is handled through our the SRO payments are handled through our BSO contract. So, yes, we do pay for 16. The city's payment to BSO for police services includes payment for 16 SRO's and one SRO supervisor. Okay, great. That's what I need to know. Thank you. Very good. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none, public input closed. Commission discussion, questions, concerns. Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Sigusen Eaton, yes. Commissioner Smith, yes. Vice Mayor Fornier, yes. Harton.

Yes. That takes us up to our regular agenda. Item number five is a resolution. A resolution of the city commission of the city of Pompo Beach, Florida, establishing a policy directing the city manager and staff to reserve all remaining plots at the city's municipal cemetery for sale only to residents of the city to restrict the number of plots sold to any person and to establish a fee for transfer of cemetery plots providing an effective date. So moved. Second. Moved and second for discussion. Good afternoon, Mr. McConn.

Good afternoon, Mayor Commission. Rob McConn, public works director. Also, Mr. Terrence Nelson from cemetery manager is here also if you have questions. At our last meeting, we discussed about limiting the sales of plots at the municipal cemetery because we're running out. We have approximately 600 plots left between cremation and full burial. So, I think it was pretty much unanimous among you that we need to limit it to residents. Um then the question came up because of a recent individual who purchased 32 should we maybe limit the number that we sell? So Terrence had done some research around the other municipal cemeteries. Um he found out that most did not limit the number but three um Boca Raton, Hollandale Beach and Dana Beach did limit it to two per person. And we recommend based on historical that that that be what we make the policy a limit of two plots per person. And further um we've been thinking about this for for some time that we do quite a bit of transfers uh between individuals and those transfers must come to you for approval so we keep accountability of plots at the cemetery. So, we're also recommending a $295 uh fee to transfer plots and the transfer e must be a pompo resident. Um, so those are our recommendations in this resolution. Um, that concludes my comments subject to your questions. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you for that. This is a public hearing. Is there any input from the public on this item? Seeing none public input closed. Commission discussion, questions, concerns? here. Good. Uh, Commissioner Perkins, uh, can you explain that to me again? When you say transfer, if I own plot, I want to sell the plot, you're going to charge me 200. Is that what that is? Correct, Commissioner. So, that's between you and that individual. We have no knowledge of that, but the city would charge a $295 fee for that transaction to cover the administrative cost. A lot of hands have to touch that to make it final for that transfer.

Okay. So, the gentleman that purchased the 32 or 33 plots, if he wants to transfer, he has to pay that 200 and what is it? 90ome dollars. Correct. Unless he transferred back to the city, we wouldn't charge him that transfer fee. Okay. Great. Thank you, Mayor. If I may, Miss Lines, I just want to also advise the commission that the city already in the ordinance, the city does have the right of first refusal. So any transfers that take place at the municipal cemetery, the city is put on notice and we have the right of first refusal. Just want to let you know that. Thank you for that. Further commission discussion.

Seeing none, let's call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Sigerson Eaton, yes. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Yes. Vice Mayor Fornier? Yes. Mayor Harden? Yes. All right. Additional audience be heard? No. Mayor. All right. Our next scheduled meeting will be May 26, 2026 at 6 PM. That's a regular city commission meeting followed by June 9th, 2026 at 1 p.m. Another regular city commission meeting. Takes us up to reports. Mr. Harrison.

Yes, sir. One item. The environmental services department, code compliance and BSO office are holding a clean streets project on Thursday, May 14th in Liberty Park, Kendall Green, and Pompo Estates. So, that's quite an area that they'll be covering on Thursday just to let everyone know and get the word out to get All right, thank you for that. Miss Lions filling in for Mr. Burman. Any report? I have nothing to report. Good. Thank you for that, Mr. Alfred.

Yes. I wanted to update the commission on some comments that were made at past meetings regarding the election fees. I was privileged to attend a workshop uh hosted by Joe Scott, uh supervisor of election for our county on May 6th, uh where he went over um reviewing the fees that were initially uh issued by his office. So, initially I recall um sharing with the commission that the um to put a ballot questional referendum before the voters would cost anywhere to the tune of $160 to $200,000. He substantially brought it down. So, um if we're piggybacking off in the general election to put a referendum before the voters, it would cost um between 50,000 to 70,000 within that range of cost. Uh if we do choose to have a standalone election, it would be substantially expensive. It would be near the $200,000. That makes sense. So only because we would be it would be a standalone election. So all the resources that they would put out to conduct that election uh would be borne by the city. So in this case here, um that's basically the update there. It seems like it would work in the city's favor in the future if should we decide to put forth a referendum before the borders.

Thank thank you for that. Mr. Alfred, I appreciate you going to bath for uh for us and all the other cities in Broward County. Great job there. Thank you. All right. I can't I want to take all the credit. Um my fellow clerks also u voiced the concerns as well and um and he heard our collective voices and um make the necessary adjustments to the fees. Certainly. Certainly. Not not to diminish anybody else, but thank you for your efforts on on this behalf. I know you've been very active in in this uh in that regard with the supervisor. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. That concludes my report. All right, takes us up to city commission. Commissioner Fik,

thank you. So, I know we had a long long day this last time. We we didn't didn't I'm happy we're not having that again to be to be fair. Um, first I wanted to bring up I got an email from um and a phone call from a resident actually a couple different residents related to some water pressure issues over off McNab. um more specifically near McNab Elementary and so they've had I guess there was a water main break not that long ago then there was something else going on. So if maybe we can try to see what's going on with their water pressure. Um, just want to make sure I put it on on notice there so that we are cognizant of whatever is going on between the bridge work and our own work and are I know that there's another some more utility work that should be starting soon just to make sure that we're communicating a little bit better and u more effectively with the residents there because they were a little shocked to not have some water pressure the other day. So, um, if we could just kind of look in make see if there was something wrong, I would appreciate just following up that. Um, with our construction issues, Mr. Harrison, speaking of those, there are some businesses that are continually affected by the just the loss of traffic and it's not just one location obviously, it's multiple locations. Just wondering if we I know we have so many other programs within the within the city and I would be interested to find out. I know I've haveve sent the email but I haven't heard anything back yet and meanwhile these residents are continuing to contact me and these business owners are continuing to contact me. So would like to have some clarification on when we can expect some sort of answer about potentially what we may or may not be able to do. Even if it's as simple as try to, you know, make sure we give them more social media shares or try to really do a a collab, you know, some sort of just goodwill effort to try to raise awareness about where they are and

what their businesses, you know, are are are doing and a little bit a little something fun, I guess, when through the construction project, but to try to help them keep their business going while they're putting up with some of what we're doing with with the redevelopment area. If you would be so kind as to uh tell me businesses, we're aware of one and we have a meeting with that one business this week, but if you have others, uh please let us know those and what the circumstances are. We'd be glad to follow up.

Perfect. Thank you. Um okay, switch gears because I got an email as I was walking through here this morning. Um or not morning The email came through at 11:30. So, at the the end of last commission meeting, we sort of just didn't have time because I had a lot that I wanted to say, but our meeting ran really late and um I abandoned a few things. So, I I I think it's time we talk again about situation with some of our consultants and um some of the instances that are happening in other cities as well. So I just I have some concerns related to the the message I got today with another statement about the resignation of one of our um consultants principals did a fight I did a public records request of course and found out that that he was you know very violent in somebody's face even pushed a woman the woman actually reached out to me at some point later um just because I was a commissioner I guess or because I had made some posts about being cur curious about what was going on with this particular company and um a few days later she told me that she was fired from her position um for being involved in it even though she was just trying to settle everybody down. I only say this because level of what I read in the in the police report and in the commentary was a little bit more concerned about how much overreach some of these people are are having or some of these consultants are having in day-to-day business. And it's not just in Boon Beach. I feel like we have a lot of it happening here as well. So, this is not something new. Um, Mr. Harrison, I I I appreciate that this

this email came out at like 11:30 um or got sent to us at 11:30. But for us to find out about this through a lot of other ways first before we heard it from you um and then for this like sort of cleanup to be happening on a political level. Um I still have concerns about the these consultants would have allowed a lot of the things that they've had their hands in and so I'll leave it at that for now. But I I think it's time we we go into things with eyes wide open. Let's just put it that way. Um, Vice Mayor, you you asked at the last meeting, I believe, about Mr. Harrison's contract and andor perform performance review. And so I went back over the past couple weeks and I started just pull it so I'd have everything ready and in I was actually did it sort of in anticipation so I wouldn't have as much to do for this agenda. I thought it would probably be on this agenda since you had mentioned it. So I was a little shocked to see it not there. Um so Mr. Harrison, do we have a date for your performance review yet? Is it going to be next meeting 6 p.m.?

No, ma'am. Okay. So when was the Do you want do you remember when the last review was? Uh, no I don't. Okay. I just saw you perk up. Do you do you know? Well, at the last meeting I asked for the last five years because I think it had been sliding over time. So last year it was delayed from end of June to July, but historically it has been in early April, early February, early March.

Right. Okay. Well, I So that's that's that makes sense because we did have a lot going on last year between May and and April and May. So, okay, Mr. Harrison, so I guess it is time for the review again. Um, and as I went through the contract and the contract was from depends on how you look at it, but there was a 2020 one of the concerns I had was the change in the contract. So, I have actually a question for and I know Mr. Burman is not here, so maybe he can just get back to us on this. Um, so when I when I went to look at the contracts, I went had to go back and I looked at both of them. So I had the 2017 employment agreement, um, and then there was a 2022 employment agreement. And so what's interesting about this is that the 2017 contract, like looking at contracts obviously, um allowed for termination with or without cause. And if we terminated uh for just cause, the city had no obligation to pay a severance. And in that section, it was 4B at the time. Um it outlined what would would assume be why you would get fired. Malfeasance, misfeasence, um nonfeasance in performing city manager duties, conviction, guilty plea, you know, neglect of duty, inability or unwillingness to properly discharge responsibilities, and the list kind of goes on. It was substantial. Um so the bottom line there was that contract listed some specific reasons that the city could terminate without paying severance. So in 2022, the contract was amended, the first amendment, and the entire section 4,

which had all of that those rules, was replaced. And so the current language from the 2022 amendment, um, it says if the city commission terminates the employee while he is willing and able to perform his duties, the city agrees to pay a lump sum of cash payment equal to 20 weeks of salary. and payment must be made within 20 regular work days after termination. Includes acred city benefits set forth within the agreement through the effective date of the termination and the detailed version of the just cause was never was not on there and it wasn't carried forward into the new section 4. So um in fact the earlier language no severance for cause language was moved removed from section 4. So my question for Mr. Burman is to when when we do have this performance review which I'd actually just like to make a motion that we put it on the agenda for our next city commission meeting which is May 26th at 6 p.m. and then he can have that for us there. Um that we we have the performance review and Mr. Burman just makes sure we have the clarity on that may it may not be you know even though it's changed I just want to know from Mr. Burman if it's from an oversight standpoint if it's the same or if it's different. Thank you.

I will certainly let him know, but I don't not having looked at the contract, I don't think it was an oversight, though, because the contract has to be an agreement amongst the parties. So, all the terms listed in the contracts um seem to have been agreed to by the party and then voted on by the commission, but I will certainly let Mr. Burman um address that with you.

Okay. I guess the secondary question I have would be not not Yeah, you'll have to look into it would be is how many more of our contracts have started off with a with a section where we can hire for just cause or have less of a severance, you know, have less of a severance package and then all of a sudden that jumps the next time they're renewed along with salary and everything else. So, it's not meant to be it's not meant to be anything other than just trying to to to check over with oversight and make sure we're crossing all of our tees and dotting all of our eyes. and it is time for a performance review. So, um the motion uh would just be to make make see if we can have the I'd make a motion to have Mr. Harrison's performance review and Mr.'s answer to that for us by by next commission meeting, Tuesday the 26th. there. So, there's a motion on the floor to put the city manager's performance review and also mandate that the city attorney have some respect.

Just have him provide Yes. Just as as it would be on the agenda item, he would just provide a clear a clarity on that simple contract issue in writing. Thank you. You got that, Kervin? Yes. Okay. You can read go through the the the recording. Okay. There's a motion on the floor. Is there a second? Second. moved and seconded to uh have the city manager's performance review on the next commission agenda and mandate that Mr. Burman have a response to her questions. Moved and seconded. Discussion on the motion. Vice Mayor.

So I had also asked this at the last meeting and I have an email from Miss Seneago that says it is marked for June 9th because the city manager is out during the May day meeting on vacation. But we're sitting here today, I believe, at our May day meeting and Mr. Harrison is here. So, Mr. Harrison, are you here at our next commission meeting, May 26th? Yes, ma'am.

Okay. So, then I do think we should do it as soon as possible. And it sounded like the reason we didn't do it today was because you weren't here, but you are here. So, uh, I am in favor of doing it in May to try and get back on schedule with how we were previously doing it in the the first quarter of the year, calendar year. Thank you. Very good. Further commission discussion. Commissioner Smith, is there enough time to get a review together? I don't see Lisa here today. So, is that enough time to get a review together? I don't know the answer to that.

I would have to defer to HR for that. Um I'm not sure. Okay, that's that's a question. I don't have an answer for you. Commissioner Seagerson Eden. Thank you, Mayor. So, we were um contemplating doing this on the June what was 9th meeting. Was that the idea? initially from uh HR. Vice Mayor just mentioned it. I mean, I have an email that says that says what? We have it marked for June 9th. CM is out during the May day meeting on an annual vacation. She had uh Excuse me.

Sure. Um she had the months mixed up. Vice Mayor, I'm actually going it's an annual trip and I'll be gone from June 1st to June 10th. So the June 9th doesn't work anyway then. So it is backwards. Okay. So that makes sense to move it up then. And I do know they're working on it. I've been seeing emails that uh they're working on it but uh it's just not ready as we speak. Mayor, if I may. Okay. I just um spoke with the HR Miss and she confirmed they could get it ready for May 6th. Excuse me, May 26th. Okay. Very good. Commissioner Seagerson, you done?

Yes, I am. Thank you. Okay, Commissioner Fessie. Thank you. U Yeah. So, so I guess it worked out great for everybody then because I'm lucky you get to go on vacation. I am I'm actually missing a family reunion right now. So, um Okay. Well, I Yeah, I would fully support this. Um 6 pm. Good deal. Um yeah, wait. Can't wait for the theatrics. Well, that's that's honestly I'm I'm not going to support this. Just I mean I I give Mr. Harrison review just about every time I talk with him. Um and that's as we all should.

Well, the contract states that it's an annual review, so it should be on an anno basis. It's not about personality. It's just review. It's a performance review. It's time for it. Well, I give it I give it to him more often than that. Thank you. Y very good. And vice mayor. So, just to clarify, mayor, um, are you saying that you you don't believe that we need an annual performance review for the city manager? We don't need that level of oversight, and I I didn't say that advice. Okay. Well, you said you do it every time, but you're not supporting this, but then the June 9th date doesn't work. So, you're just supporting continuing to kick it down the road. I didn't say later date. Well, if you're not supporting this, you're not supporting it happening until June or July, it sounds like if it happens. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you, Vice. Appreciate you trying to read some tea leaves there. Further discussion. Clear. None. Let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fez, yes. Commissioner Perkins, yes. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton, no. Commissioner Smith, no. Vice Mayor Fier, yes. Harton, nope. Commissioner Fess, you still have a four.

So, I I I I'm just gonna need a minute. I'm sorry, guys. Do you caravan? Do you happen to have a copy handy of the oath that we swear when we are sworn in?

I don't have it on hand. I don't either, but I mean I'm pretty sure I kind of remember doing it that we were supposed to follow the rules in of the city and we were to uphold them and we were to do our best it to have oversight of what is going on within the city and to do so I'm sorry have something to say. Commissioner Fik is you got the floor

right? I I was and I was being interrupted so I just wanted to clarify. Um so point is is that we do have a duty to do here and kicking the can down the road when Mr. Harrison is available. HR our HR director has has verified that she can have it done on time. It's not about theatrics. It's about doing the job that we're supposed to do as per the contract that everybody signed within the city well before I was even sitting here. So Mr. Harrison's signature is on it. Rex's signature is on it. A bunch of other signatures are on it. This is the oversight part. It's not I mean any anybody here any employee has to sit through their performance review on a schedule and I just don't feel like we should be giving out special you know I give them a job I give them a high five every time. So I we we're going to kick it down the road. I that's that's inappropriate. Um, okay. Switching gears slightly. All of a sudden, I have a new friend sitting real close to me. Um, so back to RMA and the role with our executive director. So I had a question about and question about how that was done for because I was looking when I looked through the contracts again city manager. We serve two roles. So here we we're elected as city officials and we are elected to city commission and we also serve as CRA board members. Mr. Harrison's contract says only that he is

city manager and in the 2017 contract it says he may perform limited duties for the CRA on an as needed basis. So I'd like to also um ask Mr. Burman to come back with a determination about when because it wasn't in the 22 contract right so it's while he's looking at contracts when Mr. Harrison was um I guess either appointed or oh I'm trying to think what the word might be but when he was appointed to the role of executive director and with whose if it was through a contract or a resolution I couldn't find one so I figured maybe I'm missing something. So if I could ask him for that as well um simply because I think that's a keyion of Who who's our city manager and who's our city who's our executive director? Just like to have some clarification there.

That was in 2017.

That was in 20 Well, in 2017 was the contract, but then 2022 the new contract had nothing didn't it didn't have anything about it in there. So, um, go back. So, I actually pulled together a timeline. So in 20 in 2018 in 2017, December 2017, there was an emergency CRA meeting relating to the RMA contract. Um January 28th, 2018, RMA submitted a letter ending the management arrangement effective February 1st, 2018 with a 90-day transition period. And then so there was that transition period where they were leaving the city. Um, on October 1st, 2018, when the RMA management contract formally ended, um, Mr. Harrison absorbed a lot of the RMA employees directly into the city or CRA payroll on the same day. So, basically, a lot of them just transitioned over to work for the city or CRA because we were and with um, and in some in some cases, I'm I'm would like to know if there was more competitive hiring for those positions as well. Uh, moving on from that, by 20 by February 20, February 28th, 2019, there's already been another 186,831 expanded expended across seven individual RMA consulting contracts. Um, less than five months after the management contract had ended. So, five months later, that's that's a significant amount of money. Uh, April 15, 2019, Mr. Harrison receives an RMA contract status letter proposing to consolidate all seven contracts into a single comprehensive contract. And April 17th, 2019, Mr. Harrison approves in one sentence. M, please proceed with a draft for a single but comprehensive contract structure for both the city and CRA.

Thanks. Um, so after all that, I like I said, I went through everything. I just I went back and I tried to find any CRA board meeting. I just can't find anything on the record where Mr. Harrison was appointed by the CRA board to be executive director. Um, Commissioner Pers, you were here at that point. Do you do you remember at all or No, I'm really thinking I Yeah, I am. I um

trying to find RMA left in 2017 when they resigned. I thought immediately after that we appointed or voted for in my understanding for Greg Harrison to be the city manager and the CRA director, but I was under the assumption that the CRA director was going to be temporary. Well, in my memory, you know,

well, and this is why so this is why I'm this is why I'm bringing this up also is because look, it's this stuff here that we just have seen where this 33 I mean, and I'm very grateful to Kerbin for finding out that it might be $50,000 instead or $60,000 if at some point we want to bring something back to the people um related to a ballot amendment, but or a charter amendment. But this 33 is killing us as a city. I mean, it is absolutely blocking us from doing the job we were elected to do when we can't get basic oversight and transparency handled. Um, so I'll just leave you with this. There's a three- three pattern from beginning from May 2025. Every contested financial accountability vote has been split almost identically. Um, October 29th, 2025, remove RA from city RMA from city contracts three bill. October 29th, hold hold a public RMA accountability workshop was another 33 fail. December 16th, 2025, RMA contract renewal failed. We did not want to renew it. Um, and the cont and it was able to continue anyway administratively. February 17th, 2026 when I asked for uh the McNab Park control packet to be released to condition to commissioners so we could have a idea of what was being spent3 that failed. Transparency failed again and just having a direct response to um point and beach determination at the last meeting. Last meeting. Yeah. Just again, anything we try to do with any where there's any sort of transparency or any sort of answers coming from management, we can only we can only ask Mr. Harrison and and Mr. Burman and Mr. Alfred and um DC. Those are the people we can actually ask and we have to do it where we're one of six.

So to not be able to get information and to come up here and try to do your job the best you can and then you have to spend hours going through like back back do backdated documents just to get some basic answers and you don't have any idea of the clarity. Just want you to understand it takes a lot to fight to try to get does two plus two actually equal four in this city and the answer is probably not. Um uh I have one more thing related to and this is just for Mr. Harrison. I would like to make sure that McNab Park and McNab Botanical Gardens, McNab House, whatever you want to call it at this point in time. Um, I would like to have a discussion item on our next agenda which for next week because I have asked since I think February of last year or Janu January even of last year for us to have a consistent oversight with that project. It is a massive deal in the ECR, a massive deal in my district. I have a lot of residents asking me about it all the time and we have every right as a board entirely to have the information make sure that we can answer the questions for residents to the best of our ability and that should be publicly in my opinion it should be publicly available already on the website we shouldn't have to bother curving it should just basically be there um and and and just be listed here's what we here's what we spent our money on this month like other cities do so um I would like to have a conversation a discussion topic about status of where McNab House and Gardens is. Um, but also a discussion, not a presentation. Want to have some open dialogue about it. And if I need to make a motion to make that happen because I will, but I'm just going to be kind and just ask you directly.

Thank you. Will it be on our next agenda then?

Thank you very much. Right. I think um I just want to make sure that we I will let you know that there's a fashion show and there's the amazing designer Curtis who's making a few of us very pretty dresses. Um that is the 16th that this weekend. I want to say one last thing before I left because this is it's funny how you hear things from people and it does make sometimes you just smile. I don't know that that was intended to be something that I would repeat today. I really enjoyed what I heard because actually this is exactly what I'm trying to do. That leadership, it was Miss Jackson. She said leadership without accountability becomes entitlement. So I said leadership without accountability becomes entitlement. And that is exactly what we have going on right here. And we cannot get the answers we need for the people we serve. Thank you. I hope you have a great weekend.

Very good. Commissioner, ladies and ladies and gentlemen, please. Thank you. Um, Commissioner Perkins. Uh, thank you, Mayor. Sure. Commissioner, since you mentioned about the McNab House, I would like to get the new downtown on the agenda as well for the next meeting. Um, first, um, I have several items here. First, I'd like to, um, Are you okay with that, Mr. Harrison? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. We'll we'll repeat uh what you get every month anyway, but that'll be fine. We'll have it on the agenda.

Yeah, there's a big difference in writing something down and discussing it and talking about it so that everybody can understand it. So, there's a big difference in that. Um first, I want to bring up the I wanted to acknowledge um Haitian Flag Day, which is tomorrow. Excuse me. And I would like for us at the uh next city commissioner meeting, I think on the 26, if we could um draft a proclamation to be uh presented to the Haitian community because May is Haitian Heritage Month. So, if we could draft a proclamation for the next meeting and present that, I do have some Haitian friends that will be willing to receive that. Uh, the second is the um this morning I think around 3:45 there was a a fire in my district on on Northwest Fifth Street and I just want to know from I don't know the fire chief or the city manager. We have several residents that were displaced. I'm not sure if they in live in the apartment. Was red cross called. Um I understand there were 14 adults um that got out. Okay. But two were taken to the hospital. I just need to know are we in connection or communication with the owner of the apartments and where are the residents now? They have a

We are the Red Cross took care of the residents and uh the uh fire chief and the police chief are in contact with the owner of the property.

Okay. Wonderful. That's what I want to hear. Um the other uh concern I had was um I know you mentioned Commissioner RMA and I think what's what's happening is that uh RMA was terminated a few months ago in Coconut Creek and some kind of way. I think Kim Bree Meister has managed to master Google because if you Google it, you won't find it. But if you go into AI, you will find that they were terminated. So, she has mastered that Googling thing. So if you if you're googling anything with RMA, it's going to look really good when you Google. Okay. So I just want to bring that to the attention that they were terminated from Coconut Creek, the city of Coconut Creek a few months ago. Um the other uh let me switch gears here. Um, if many of you don't know, I am a very, very good listener. And there's a lot of rumbling and talk going around in my community about our utilities department. And I've never really heard any complaints from utilities. Uh, but the last six months been told that people are scared, they're quitting. Um, some of them are being talked down to and some are looking to leave and concern about this department. Now, I do know that the residents, well, the I'm sorry, the employees can go to HR and complain um about the new I guess Miss Muhammad is the executive director or the director of

She's the director or she's the utilities director, but commissioner, I'd like to be careful with this approach here. uh the employees uh all report to me and if you I'm only going on and I would not I would like for you not to interrupt me and I'd like to finish. Well, I'm just simply saying ma'am if you have

I'm saying as well that I am a good listener and when people talk in my community I can talk as well based on what was said. I'm not calling any names other than the director. There are some issues going on in our utility department based on what I'm hearing in my district and you need to look into it. Now, I understand the director's been there six months. I understand there's been a lot of firing. People have been quitting in the last 6 months. I need you to look into that. I've also called Davey. They had a party when she left. I'm sorry you've called.

So, I just I need you, Mr. the city manager to look into what's going on in utilities. People do not need to be looked down on or disrespected on any level. Well, I'm going to need I don't know like you need you to either sit down with me or need you to put all of this in very No, I'm not I'm not going to sit down with you, Mr. City Manager. Listen, I need you to look into what is going on in the utilities department. You look into it. You find out what's going on, you talk to the director, you talk to the employees, and you find out what's going on and get back with me. Commissioner Perkins, just I mean, the other thing I have is

Commissioner Perkins, if I could just I if if you've got an issue, I mean, I'm always concerned about any and every department and I get I get it. You should be and it's not my job. My job is here on the the dis but but if I'm hearing things from the community, I'm going to bring it to the attention of the person that needs to hear it. Absolutely. I would just encourage you to go directly to the city manager rather than airing it out in public like this if there's an issue and I'm airing it on purpose because it needs to stop and and because he is the person that runs the city. I know that. And and we are forbidden by charter from getting involved in anything having to do with running the city. Right. So it

I am not involved. You can ask I am a good listener. I am a good listener. I'm not involved.

Uh the other I wanted to bring up also the ultimate sports park. As many of you know, it was a uh Gob Bond project and the Ultimate Sports Park is behind the girls and boys club and uh next to the um Apollo Park and I'm not pleased with the the RFP and how it was handled from the beginning and I've been back and forth with um Mr. Bossworth and uh Mary about it. And this is one project in my district that I'm not going to let go. I'm not going to let the situation that's going on with it slide. So I will be bringing this to the attention of my residents. The unfair process I feel happened with this Ultimate Sports Park in District 4. So, I will be informing the residents about what transpired, what happened, and what we're going to do about it. Uh, lastly, I wanted to mention the dumping in the Northwest. Um, I've been working with Russ and he's been very helpful in helping me to, um, when I'm riding and taking pictures of trash and people dumping. I think we need to bring back the uh reward that we had. I don't know why it went away, but if you see someone dumping, we give you an award for calling it in or letting us know. So, this is happening at least four or five times a week in my district. And whoever is dumping, most of them are doing it two, three, four, five in the morning. I ride by at 5:00. It's not there. I

come back 7 o'clock in the morning. There it is. And this is ongoing ongoing ongoing. And we we've got to do more to put a stop to this. And it's in locations where they know there's no cameras or it can't be seen or whatever. But the um this uh clean streets that it's very helpful. It it works. But the illegal dumping around midnight after midnight. We We have to do more to to try to stop that because I'm constantly calling, constantly calling, and it's just they're constantly doing it because they know that they can get away with it. So, I really appreciate um all the help that I received from from Russ with this. And if we could do a little bit more maybe with BSO helping us out a little bit more with that with the dumping, I would really appreciate that. And I think that's it. Okay, that's it. Thank you.

Very good. Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Seager Eaton.

Thank you, Mayor. And I'll just uh follow um along the lines of Commissioner Perkins. Um my district also gets a lot of illegal dumping. It is a problem throughout the city and um we keep Russ and his crew very very busy. Um, it's imperative that when you see a pile of illegal dumping that you call it in. Call it into your commissioner, call it into the city to make sure that it gets picked up. There seem to be favorite spots and once people know about them, they come by and they know that they can illegally dump there. The other thing is you'll notice um the end of the month multifamily units which don't get bulk pickup have people that are either evicted or they move out and there goes all of their belongings on the curb. It's a constant battle and um you know you just got to call it in. Just got to call it in and Russ will get them get it picked up. But unless you call, nobody knows. Um because we, you know, we're not omnipotent. But it's with the resident's help that we can solve these problem. And I was not aware that we have uh eliminated the reward uh for um have we eliminated that, Mr. Ketchum? Would you mind? Thank you. Thank you. Yes, Russ Katchchum, director of environmental services. No, we did not eliminate the reward. What we encountered time and time again is

people were very quick to to call it in. People were not very quick to support us in moving the action forward. In other words, it's here's the thing. I don't want to get involved. Leave me alone. um without an eyewitness, without somebody being there to say, "I saw it." Uh we we just can't move forward. Uh we need that witness. We need that somebody. We weren't there. The testimony.

The testimony. Yeah. So, it became it became very cumbersome. It is still there. It is still active. And obviously, we encourage anybody that sees it Yes. to call us. Um, we are doing some other tactics that I won't get into uh details here, but we are expanding some tactics um to help combat the illegal dumping, but the program is still alive. And yes, absolutely. If you see something and are willing, which is the key, to support us in court to identify the person, um what we've actually done is we are identifying some of the frequent flyers as I call them and um actually we're working with BSO because it is not our original position was it was multi-people or many many people. It's actually not. Um we're finding out it is pretty a smaller group that are doing it and so we're able to uh work with BSO and and to uh correct that.

Thank you. And also uh we've well I've experienced through my residents um weekly bulk pickup. For instance, uh, one resident has a astroturf business and every week he's putting out his scraps and it's a difficult. And then you have construction workers who come home with a pickup truck full of construction garbage from whatever job they're working on, wherever it might be. since we pick up once a week. And then they they put it down and then the claw comes and the way you really know if it's a perennial or re constant dumper, weekly dumper. It's when the claw picks up and there it creates a hole or a divot in the area between say a sidewalk and the roadway or on the side of someone's driveway. So, it's a it's a very unsightly thing to see bulk pickup out every week, but again, it's got to be called in. And the way we get people to change behavior because that's really all we can do is if they're putting it out on say Friday or Saturday and in Highlands and Crest Haven that those pickup days are on Tuesday. So they're already out of compliance. So if you call on them, we'll have enough time to get to that property and tag them for putting it out too early. And now what happens is we're working towards changing the behavior of an individual because we can't arrest him and put him

in jail for that. Um and he's living there or renting there. Uh we can all we can do is change the behavior. And if they continue to do it, they become a nuisance. They get cited more and more and then they realize that we're not going to allow this sort of thing and then they get fined. So that is the way we we work towards handling it. You guys, you've been great. Mario from code has been great. BSO's been great. So the only way that we can really get a handle on it is to call it in and let someone know. And if you're seeing it all the time, please let us know that you're seeing it all the time and we'll address it as best we can to get the resident to change their behavior. Um, so thank you very much. And you can collect that reward as long as you're willing to testify.

All right. The $3,500 I believe, correct? Or 25. It's a staggered amount. It could be up to 25. It depends on the amount of material out there. But really the key takeaway is again when you call it in uh and we con and we confirm and and we do our process and due diligence you have to be able to be able to testify.

Yep. Thank you very much Russ. Okay. And the other thing I have is uh we're having our Memorial Day parade um on Memorial Day over by the cemetery I think 23rd. And you were gonna probably announce that mayor but uh sorry. Um, and also the Crest Haven Civic Association meeting will be this coming Thursday at 7 o'clock at the Charlotte Bur Center. And I hope to see you all there. Um, and that's all I have. Mayor, thank you. Very good. Thank you, Mayor. Real quick,

um, Russ, you did say to me that the reward was taken away and that was the reason I said that and now you're saying something different, but we'll talk later. Thank you. Okay. Um, okay. Commissioner Smith.

Yes. I'm excited to think about all of the youth that BSO will be working with this summer and how that summer camp can change the life of those young people. So, thank you BSO for doing that for for our our youth in Pompo. Um on on May 1st in District 5, our BSO deputies, our Pompov Beach fire rescue and an offduty Fort Lauderdale um fire rescue captain saved the life of a woman where her car went into a canal in Pompa Beach. These these officers immediately stripped their gear. the fire um Fort Lauderdale fire rescue camp captain joined them and they dove into the canal. They broke the window and they saved the life of a woman. They didn't hesitate to do that. They worked together. Three perfect strangers working together figure out a way to get this woman out of the car. got her out of the car, got her to the side of the the C14 canal, which is the waterway she went into, and she was sitting on the side of the canal well and healthy when the car went under. So, I I just can't thank you enough for what you did, BSO and fire department. I spoke to the victim and um she's doing well. she's um decided she's not going to drive anymore. She felt that was a a good indication from God that it was time to give up her license. But she's feeling blessed and she is just extremely thankful for the

bravery and for the skills that everybody experienced to rescue her from from that car. So, thank you so much for that. Um a reminder to the nonprofits that we're in the middle of the um community grant for the pump. The applications are due June 30th. So if you're a nonprofit that works with our community and you don't have an application for the funds, please reach out to myself or any of the commissioners and we'll get you the application. And just to remind you that this is the the pump in the pro the five year five years that they've been doing this. They've given out $469,000 to nonprofits. So they say they're giving out 150,000. Last year they said that and they gave out 180,000 and everybody that applied got something. So if you're a nonprofit um please and you don't have an application, please reach out to us. A reminder that there's an important FDOT um meeting on May 18th to talk about the turnpike at the Coconut Creek Parkway interchange. This is a very important interchange for for PMPO Beach and it'll be an online on May 18th at 6 in the evening or an inperson on May 19th. So, if you need more information, um there's some flyers floating around and I'll lay it up here if you want to come and get a a picture of it. Another important meeting about um our corridors is Broward NO is having a public meeting about the Atlantic Boulevard corridor, the corridor that goes west of Power Line just east of I95. And that'll be on May 20th, 6 o'clock at EPAT Larkin. So that's an important road for all of

Pompa Beach, especially for district five and district 4. So I hope the public will come out and um give your opinions and see the ideas and let's talk about it. Um I too am going to be modeling um Curtis's clothes. He's making me a gown and I'm really excited about being able to um do runway for a cause. This benefits the Kappa Foundation of PMPono Beach and the PMPono Beach Women's Club. It'll be this Saturday at 11:30. Tickets are $50 and I know all of us up there modeling courtesy's outfits would love to have you as our cheering crowd at the event. So tickets, you can get tickets from the Pompona Beach Women's Club website. So I hope to uh see you there and cheering us on. My quote for today is from Steve Jobs. Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life.

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Commissioner. Vice Mayor,

thank you. I have a few things. Um there was very little on our agenda today and it does seem to be kind of an example of what this 33 is doing to this board and and kind of the city at this point where it feels like a lot of important things and a lot of important work we need to do is in a bit of a holding pattern until I mean probably it feels like no November is what the the plan is. But I I don't uh I don't believe that's a good way to govern and I don't believe that's what the people elected us to do. So uh I I think there's a couple important things we need to talk about. Um the first one I want to talk about is our BSO contract because some work can't wait until November. Our contract expires before then. Um, so from my perspective, uh, a month or so ago, there was a rare moment of almost agreement up here about the duration of a BSO contract extension. Uh, I think we all agreed on a duration of a year. Uh there was some differing opinions on how we go about negotiating it and if we kind of parallel track what it would take to do our own department, but the consensus here seemed to be through two different votes that we wanted to move forward with a one-year agreement. Um just, you know, the how was the problem. So when I we received a memo that said the city manager was moving forward with a four-year agreement, I was pretty concerned. I I do not know how we got there. I do not think that's the right time to be doing that um making that level of commitment especially given the studies that have just come back at the county level about um BSO at the the port and the airport. Uh, I think there's a likelihood that the the county makes some changes and as we know Deerfield has and and I just think that

we if we're looking out for our residents, we need to maintain more flexibility than what a four-year deal would would do. So, I am going to make a motion to ask the city manager to negotiate a one-year deal with BSO, a one-year contract extension, just like we had all kind of agreed upon a month ago. So, Vice Mayor, yes.

Uh, somehow there's a misunderstanding. I might use the wrong words or something to get this misunderstanding set there, but we have a meeting set up for next week. And we when we sit down with that meeting with the executive staff of the sheriff's office, we will start negotiation at one year and hopefully be able to stay with that because that is the best way for us to proceed. I was trying to report uh in what I said to you all that the fouryear was requested by the sheriff but uh I did not agree with them. I didn't tell them that I agreed with them on the fouryear that we would uh review it all when we when we sit down and our first sitdown meeting with them like I said

next week. Okay. So, I'll just read what I'm So, for the sake of clarity, I will read what I'm alluding to. So, in the memo that you sent to us, it said, "I initially recommended pursuing a one-year renewal of the existing agreement to allow for additional time for evaluation and negotiation. However, based on subsequent discussions with BSO command staff and the under sheriff, I am now in I am instead now recommending that the city pursue four-year agreement." A four-year agreement would align with the term of our contract. goes on in here and then it says staff will thus proceed accordingly unless otherwise directed by the commission.

So the memo says said one year I now am recommending four years and unless I'm recommended unless the commission tells me otherwise that's what I'm doing. So I'm making a motion now to ask you to negotiate a one-year extension to give us flexibility to to see what all the other um customers or clients of BSO are doing. A second motion and a and a second on the floor um to um direct the city manager to negotiate a one-year contract. Um okay, discussion on the motion. Commissioner Seagerson Eaton.

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Now, I recall it a little bit differently. Um after seeing the uh consultant u analysis and the extreme increase in costs um that would be borne by the residents which would mean raising the tax. I'm not in favor of the stand alone. I don't believe we actually voted for a one-year extension. In my estimation, we didn't take a vote. We had a consensus that we needed to negotiate a contract with BSO because we need public service. Whether it's one year or four years, we need to work from the best bargaining position that we can and get the best contract because we don't have an alternative. That's the way I recall. Thank you, Mayor.

Uh, Vice Mayor,

thank you. So, uh, at our March 24th meeting during my report and the mayor's report, there were two different motions made. I made a motion to move forward uh with um the one-year agreement, but with us having, you know, a say in the negotiation. That motion failed three to three. The mayor then ma made a motion um to direct the city manager to begin negotiations with BSO for another one-year contract. And you voted yes for that, Commissioner Seagerson Eaton. And that failed three to three also. So that so both sides were advising the city manager to move forward with a one-year contract extension but with a different kind of how this was done. Right? So what I'm trying to say here today is we actually all kind of agreed on something. So I I don't I don't you know I think we should be also continuing to do the diligence of what it would take if we end up having to go with standalone department. We're the only So I I ended up looking at this. The top 11 cities in the county have their own standalone police department. We're the only one that won't um after Deerfield does. So we are a bit of an out resident.

It's my report or my I have the floor right now. But anyway, we all agreed on that and I think all I'm saying today is and we got that memo that said I the city manager said he had changed his recommendation to four years and was going to proceed forward with four years unless we advise otherwise. I think this board needs to come together because we have to make this decision before the November election and give really clear guidance on what we want done. And I am making the same exact motion that the mayor made back. You voted no for it because you voted against your own motion. Commissioner Sigson, just Vice Mayor has the floor. Go ahead. Vice Vice Mayor, you have

you made the same motion to do a one-year contract. I I mean you do you not understand? Wait, wait. It doesn't seem like it. We all wanted a one-year contract. So, I am actually trying to, you know, accomplish something here instead of pick useless, ugly fights with people that are pointless. Thank you. I've I've got Commissioner Commissioner Seagerson. Eaten, did you want to? Yes. Yes. Okay, you can chime in before we go to Commissioner Smith.

Correct. The bottom line is we need to negotiate and we need to negotiate the best contract. I do not feel we should tie the negotiators hands and limit it to a one-year or a fouryear. Whatever the best deal we can get from our negotiation team is what we need for our residents. And I'm not I don't want to tie their hands as I said, but we need a contract because we have nowhere else to go. Thank you.

Very good. Commissioner Smith, followed by Commissioner Fessic. That's pretty much what I was going to say also is I don't feel that we need to tie the hands of staff negotiating a contract with BSO by saying it has to be a one-year because we're never going to get if we never voted on a our standalone police department, but we would never have one up and running in one year anyway. So let's negotiate the best contract that we can for PMPA beach with BSO and you would be coming back to us when you've negotiated. Correct. Yes, ma'am.

So we'll know the results of those negotiations. Let's not tie their hands. Let's let them negotiate and come up with the best solution for PMPO Beach citywide. That's what I have to say. Thanks, Mayor. Commissioner Fess.

Thank you, Vice Mayor. I share your attempt and desire to try to all work together and get something accomplished. I have full faith and appreciation in the officers that represent us here in PMPO Beach with BSO. I do not have full faith in our negotiation team. Um, and I do not have full faith and and I'm hearing some I mean I'm hearing some laughter on both sides, but and I'm I'm sort of chuckling too, right? But but honestly, that's not based in something that is that is funny to be fair. Um, I've heard we want to get the best deal possible. I've heard we want the best deal best contract possible for our residents. We don't want to tie their hands. Those are all things that are true on no matter whether you're pro- four years or one year. They're all true. Our contract with BSO in 2015 had a 5% cap on it. One in 2020 didn't. our our our officers and and and folks who have been leading the charge for year after year, even with contracts in whether they have a 5% cap or or not, have said consistently to staff and to management, that they could do with some more resources because our city has grown so much, but we have not given them the ability to to do the job they can. We have not done our due diligence in my opinion in negotiating or communicating well on a consistent basis. I've said it from the beginning. The one thing that is completely skewed with that with that report is the fact that the build it it locked in this building if we went to a standalone. Our officers, if we stay with BSO, deserve

that building, too. No way should they be in a moldinfested rain reigning on the inside building anymore. They deserve better. They're they are protecting and serving us. And I will regardless if it's one year, four year, whatever. However, which way we go, that is a absolute fact. They deserve better because they they are out there putting their lives on the line for us. As far as this one year, we all agreed that we would make we would wait to see we'd wait to see what happened with property taxes. We'd wait to see what happened with not just the report, but we'd wait to see what was happening with our neighbors. We'd wait to make sure we wanted to even have workshops. I believe that probably also got shot down about having being more involved in the process and really having an opportunity to meet with either Sheriff Tony or with the residents and do some outreach, have some public meetings here on the dis public discussion. items where we could really talk about some of the things and allow the officers even to come and talk about the things that they see in the community. The point is is that can't make if if we're one year, we can guess what we can renew again in a year. The the cost I've already I know that the in in all of the conversations we've had with BSO, they they've said they want to be a partner to us. They don't they're not going to try to to try to stick it to us if in this one year But it's worth having the conversation. It's worth not locking us down into something that maybe four years might not be the best thing for us as a city. That might be tying our hands, but taking it one year at a time right now while we're in this crazy state of upheaval with everything else we're borrowing money for, it's it's prudent. It's prudent to have the conversation and truly try to work together. the negotiation team itself. I I don't if the way that we're communicating and negotiating is by dropping a memo at the at the end of at

11 o'clock at the last meeting saying unless you say otherwise we're we're going to go ahead and negotiate with a fourear when we all said one. That's the part I have a problem with. It has nothing to do with BSO. It has nothing to do with not BSO. It has everything to do with communication. So, we're all in agreement. We need BSO services. Let's get this Let's get this done one year. you. Very good, Vice Mayor.

Thank you. Yeah. So, what I want to ensure does we do is set not set us up for failure because we need we do need BSO services at this point. And we I think are actually collectively in agreement to probably move forward incrementally or at least everyone was back in March. Maybe your opinion has changed because the city manager told you to his opinion changed. my opinion hasn't changed because his opinion changed. Um, but the memo very clearly said, "Hey, I changed my mind. I'm suggesting a four-year deal, and if you don't tell me otherwise, that's what I'm going to negotiate." And I have a concern that we get back this four-year negotiated deal because that's what the memo says. And we're sitting here in September with a contract that's going to expire and we're going to end up at a three-3 vote and deadlocked. So, I mean, like, I don't need a crystal ball to see what's going to happen. And so I'm sitting here in May trying to prevent that, trying to say, "Hey, no, we told you one year and we still want a one-year." It I don't care if you want to negotiate separately, a four-year, 10 year. I don't care what else you bring forth, honestly. But I I want to make sure that we get a one-year agreement and know and and put our effort into negotiating the best one-year extension we can because that was the about the only thing this board could could agree on. And I don't want to end up sitting here in September with you looking at us and saying, "Well, if you don't accept this right now, this four-year deal, then we have a crisis, right? I don't want to end up like that." So, it's an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. So, let's give the right guidance now so we ensure that we have the options that we need available to us in September so we don't end up deadlocked. It seems pretty simple to me. Thank you,

Commissioner Smith.

So, Vice Mayor, you're suggesting that they go to the negotiating table and negotiate the best they can, whether that be two year, three year, four year, and come back and present to us the best negotiated one-year term and the best negotiated contract for however many years it is. So we can decide do we want to do the one year or are we willing to go out and do the four-year that BSO is um recommending. So would you want them to come back with two so we have the one to fall back on and then have the best negotiated terms also? Is that what you're asking for? So the memo that we got said, I was recommending one year. I now recommend four-year. And it says staff will thus proceed accordingly unless unless otherwise directed by the commission. So the memo is very clear. He's proceeding with a four-year agreement unless otherwise directed by the commission. So, I believe this commission needs to give direction to negotiate the absolute best one-year extension that you can do because that is what this collective body agreed we wanted to do back in March. And I don't want to end up in September with here's here's the four-year deal, take it or leave it because I think we're going to have a problem if that's the way we if that's the way we approach this because I think that I I would like to see them come back with the best negotiated deal that they can and so we can avoid a three-3 tie when that's presented that they also have the best negotiated deal they can for the one year. So we can look at what the two options would be. what would be the cost to renew for one year and what would be the cost to renew for the best deal so that we have two at the table when we vote.

I mean, I don't care if the negotiating team wants to go back and forth with Sheriff Tony on longer term deals also. Uh but I the motion is to ensure that so it sounds like currently he's going to do four years. My motion is to ensure that we get a a one-year a cost and extension and that they spend their effort negotiating the best one year that they can. Question just like the motion that was made March 24th.

Let me just um um Mr. Harrison would I'm not into negotiations so I I'm not an expert on that at all but Mr. comparison. Could you come back with the best negotiated contract you can and how many terms that is and a one-year term? Yes, ma'am. That's what I would like to see us recommend that they do. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

You had I just had a question. Vice Mayor, could you read again what off from the minutes what was agreed? They both fail if I remember correctly. They did both fail three to three. There was a motion. Um I made a motion to direct the city manager to assemble a committee that includes staff and the commissioner um to work towards securing the best possible one-year contract extension with BSO. And that failed three to three. And then the mayor made a motion to um tell the city manager to begin negotiations with BSO for another one-year contract to ensure continuity of police services. And that failed three to three the other way. I mean, when you read this, it's comical. And now we're sitting here a month and a half later and and some people want a four-year deal, it sounds like. So, I don't know. Like, it is I want to ensure that we get negotiated one-year deal. um uh that's available to us to vote on in September because I'm worried that we're going to end up deadlocked.

A secondary question to that then, Mr. Harrison, where did you I I thought we were all sort of like nodded at this one year like, "Hey, we need to do something at some point. I'll go look I'll look for it, but where did we get from the memo that you originally thought one year was a good idea and then and then go to force?" So, if we were all in agreement at some point, whether there was an actual motion or not a motion, there was some sort of agreement. That's that's what I want to find out. Where did we where did we go? Where did we where did we get to that point where all of a sudden there's a memo that says, "Yes, one was where we were working on, but now we're at to four." And

doesn't that have to generally be at like you said, unless I hear from the commission, it's it's our decision to make. And quite honestly, the the back and forth is not going to work because this is exactly how I can you want me to predict how it's going to go. one year $900 million, right? It's not going to be that. But fouryear, $3 million. Again, not going to be that. But it's that's not ne that's not negotiation. That's just getting what what some people want. And that's not doing the due diligence to find out what we actually need in our communities, which is the goal of the negotiation. If we need more people because our officers tell us we need more people, then we need to allocate for that. If we if we need if our residents are saying we need more visibility or we want to see more, we have to look at those things and and have open conversations. It's not about negotiation negotiations for the sake of just get the best price because price and value are two different things.

That's all. Thanks. Very good. Commissioner Seagen on the motion.

Thank you. Thank you. Um so current contract that we have is already an extension It's a one-year extension and we I re believe that we really should be we should be talking about a contract. The point is to do a standalone is very expensive. It'll take two to three years to get up to speed. So the fact of the matter is we are locked in with BSO and if we can get an economies of scale over the next four or five years to do a long-term contract a new contract not just a renewal. Now we there's always that 90-day withdrawal clause that we can draw withdraw from which you know where would again where would we go? However, your first motion, Vice Mayor, was to put a committee together to negotiate that one-year extension. I I find it very odd. I've never heard of negotiating through a committee. you negotiate especially not with you know policy makers and um people who are non attorneys or non union it is a it is a very difficult and complicated subject and there's a lot involved so I would prefer to just move forward with a contract for four years so we don't have to come every here and and have commentary on how wow uh we didn't get a

good contract and somehow you know staff is wrong or BSO is not serving up to you know I mean we need PD it's the number one responsibility we have as elected officials that is public safety so if you're offended because you don't like the the manager telling you that a four-year term would be better. Uh well, you know, that's a different question. We need to negotiate and we need to negotiate going forward now. So, I can't I can't support any limitations on the negotiation process whatsoever. Thank you,

Commissioner Perkins. Yes, Mayor. We're sitting here talking around the city manager and he should be doing most of the talking because he will be at the table with the negotiating of course and what I would like to hear from the city manager is letter is saying that you are is it requesting or suggesting or recommending what what word did he use? Recommending. Recommend. Okay. How did you come up with recommending that we move forward with four years? How did you get there?

We had had a meeting with the BSO executive staff. What I was trying to convey and uh quite frankly I apologize but I didn't say it right. Uh what we are intending to do is to go sit down this coming week and sit down with the executive staff of BSO and as I said earlier we will start at the one year. We'll see what their pricing is. We'll see what their demands are. And then uh if we say we can't live with that, we'll say okay well you wanted a fouryear uh what are you offering so that we will know what they're talking about. And it might be that we wind up with recommending two years. I don't know yet. We haven't sat down. The negotiating team will be sitting down putting all the bullets together for the attorneys. This will have to go to our city attorney and the BSO attorney. And uh while they're looking at it, we will in the meantime come back to you all and bring you up to date on what was discussed. And whatever we wind up with, please remember that any one of those contracts has a 90-day cancellation in it. 90 days. The 90-day cancellation and we can uh go into uh transition period like Deerfield Beach is doing now.

So, we're not going to be locked in to a one-year or a fouryear. We're we're going to it it's going to be open. Okay. Who's um part of the negotiating team that's sitting in the meetings with you? Be uh Mark Burman, myself, Brian Donovan, Earl Bosworth, and uh members of the BSO executive team. And I'm sorry, Tracy. Tracy's on there, too.

Okay. I you know as I've stated before you know it's important you know either it goes we have to have policing. It's very important and I've said over and over and over and over again um that we need to go back to our own city of Pompo policing and I have a lot of reasons for saying that and I've made it very clear that it seems BSO is really working in the city but it's just not working in my district or I shouldn't say my district but the northwest based on the the killings and the shootings and all of that. And I've said over and over and over again um that we not ahead of crimes and preparing. There's lack of communication. Basically, there's no communication. BSO communicates very well when there's a tragedy, when there's an incident. As I have stated so many times before, the BSO really wanted to clean up the Northwest, they could. They're not being told to do so. So, when there's a shooting, the sheriff comes and he march down the street with the residents in a protest and he's got the answers. A lot can be done if BSO would just do their jobs in the Northwest, which takes a little bit more because we have a lot more going on there. There's just no connection. I don't know who the police forces. I've asked several times, can I come to one of your morning meetings and get to know the officers or say hi or whatever? I've

asked that what, seven, eight years ago. Never. Nothing. It's just they're just going through the motions to say we're doing something. And as I have stated, BSO for me is known as image and they should be known as policing and safety, but it's about image for me with BSO. And I it I just don't know no other way to help reduce the crime in my district other than to go back to the city of PMPO Beach because I know that we will directly have access and input on what goes on here. A lot of BSO decisions are made downtown with the colonels and all that. And I do know one ESO officer alone can clean up the Northwest. But he's not given those orders from downtown to do so. If he tried, I'm sure they would let him go or or get rid of him. So, I can't blame some of you up sitting up here for wanting to keep BSO. I understand that. I mean, the money, the funding, I mean, what they're asking for is just outrageous when I don't feel like the Northwest is being served properly. Like I said, we've given them all the tools they've asked for and we still have crimes. They have bikes. I think they have horses. They have horses, too. Oh, no. They have bikes.

They have the real time cameras. They have the tag readers. We have one of the best systems over in our police department. I mean, we've just given them so many tools and I believe it's working, but it's just not working in the Northwest. just seems as though we're running behind the crimes rather than getting in front of them and making the connections and that's just my my opinion. So, I'm all for um considering going back to the city of Pompa Beach. I think that will work best for the Northwest and I think the other parts of the city could probably do even better that because we'll have more direct input and say on how things are being done and that's why I said if we go back to the city of Pavino policing chief needs to work for the commission so that we'll have that that direct contact with the chief and knowing exactly what's going on in our districts because if people are safe with the police, they will talk. If they don't know you, they will not talk. So, I hear that all the time. Well, we have a a reward out, but nobody's talking and they won't tell. Do we have police officers telling on other police officers? Oh, not really. Anyway, that's just that's just my take on it and it's just looking at safety when it comes to my district. That's all. Thank you.

Very good. I have questions for you, Commissioner Fess. Thank you. Since you're on the negotiating board, I'm throwing you in the hot seat. I'm sorry. Um, but uh are are you aware so since we're obviously frustratingly so at this at this fork in the road, if you will, do we have the opportunity per our existing contract to extend that contract again another year? I haven't reviewed the existing contract um but I believe we do. I believe it provides authority to extend for a year.

Okay. So that to me says there's I was just reading the the minutes, right? So it we can check on that. Maybe that's a good thing for you to bring back to us for our next meeting. But I agree with Vice Mayor. This is not something we need to kick down the road, right? The the reality is we need public safety. Everybody's everybody's in agreement on that. How we get to what each community needs or each community would like to see, that's a different story. That's a negotiation tool. That's a conversation that's not about a one-year contract or a four-year contract. So, I'm curious basically because so many times when we have, you know, these three threes where we have advisory boards or things like that and then it basically just says, "Oh, well, that person is just going to continue to sit there." I'm wondering if that's the same situation with this with this BSO contract. So, one year, you can talk about implications or write memos all you want, Mr. But the reality is is that we need public safety and we need to negotiate for the immediate term because we're not going to be able to do our budget numbers. We're not going to be able to any why bother having us at budget meetings if we don't have the number or Josh. Bad for him actually. He's just to try to figure out what we're doing. I mean, these are the things that that that matter when it comes down to it. Let's let's just let's just if we're going to wait to decide how we're going to go negotiate, let's just do the one year. Let's just get it done. Let's get our numbers solid so we can figure out what our costs are going to be and and move on down the road. And we can always see where we are and try to start an actual open conversation. That's what everything is missing in here is communication, communication, communication, communication. Some of us are happy with the communication we've received and think everybody's going to do a great job. and other people are saying, "I would like to be more involved in the communication, not necessarily negotiating the contract, but just conversation and the communication of what's needed in the communities we

serve." And even that goes both ways. I'm sure that that BSO would love to tell us what they need because I know I've seen memos and stuff for years past. They've said how many how much how many resources they needed and we said no. So, can we can we just can we end this this this We just left Mother's Day. Everybody had a good one. Um, you know, we can we try to do one good thing for the residents and come together and put everything else aside and just agree to go just get this one thing done so we can all go home, pat ourselves on the back and say we did something that we know, hey, when we when we this we're not putting ourselves in a box here. So, Vice Mayor, I know you had the motion. I don't even know where we are at this point, but can we just all agree to just get this done for the one year and and and and then move it move forward? And I would say not move forward in April or May of next year. I would say start moving forward having those conversations like in October.

Thank you. Very good. Mayor, Commissioner Seager.

Thank you. And I will say I think it's obvious we all agree and know that we need police services, public safety, that is that's a given. Um and agreeing to tie the hands of the negotiating team and say to BSO, it's one year it's nothing. Take it or leave it is not a good way to negotiate. and compromising what if going doing what vice mayor is suggesting to limit the negotiation staff to a one-year term or a one-year contract I think does the citizens a disservice we may be able to come up with a better deal going forward so yes I would just love to end all this and vice mayor withdraw a motion and let's just have the city manager and his team move forward with negotiations for BSO because we need it. Thank you.

Very good. Vice Mayor,

thank you. I'm not going to withdraw my motion because the memo we've received said unless we unless I get other guidance from the commission and I appreciate Mr. Harrison clarifying that he intends to do that anyway, but I'd like us to be clear too so we don't have someone later point at this memo and say, "I told you this is what I was doing." I'm really trying to be proactive so we don't end up with a problem in September. And um I I I feel the frustration uh that Commissioner Fezic that everyone feels here about not being able to accomplish what seems like the most basic thing. Um but we with the uncertainty of what other entities are doing with BSO right now, seeing the report from the airport, seeing the the port the listening to what the county is saying, I don't think it is a wise decision to enter a long-term contract right now. That is my opinion. We are already the biggest contract with the Deerfield is gone. And I think if then at some point we had to stand up our own department, it would become more difficult if everyone else had already done that. So I would like to prioritize a one-year contract. And I want to make sure that we give that guidance. Like I said, if the city manager wants to go negotiate a four-year deal or whatever else he thinks is is a plan B or another option to bring forward to us, no problem. But right now, we have a memo saying, "I'm going to negotiate a four-year deal unless you tell me otherwise." And I don't I want to tell him otherwise. I want to say we need a one-year deal, a one-year extension, and if you want to negotiate your four-year deal, go for it. But I don't want to be left without the option that I think we all a month ago agreed that we wanted.

Thank you.

Very good. Okay. Um, yeah, Mr. Mr. Harrison, I appreciate you clarifying your memo that you you intend to begin negotiations with a one-year extension agreement, whatever it is. Um, because Yeah. That seems to me that that was the direction the commissioner wish wished to move in. Um lo these many weeks ago at this point in time, but I'm I'm not prepared to tie your hands in a negotiation situation. I'm I'm comfortable that you will sit at the table and and do what you can for the city getting the best deal with the ideal being a one-year contract. Like I said, extension of the ex I don't know which is which would be better, an extension of the existing contract or a new contract with new terms. That's part of the reason why the consultant suggested that we we do anything um going forward with BSO was because he anticipated that we could get some better terms perhaps from BSO, which that's yet to be determined, but yeah. So anyway, we've got a motion on the floor to direct the city manager to negotiate a one-year contract. And as the vice mayor said though, if this passes, he's not it doesn't prevent him from coming back with other versions also. But like I said, I'm I'm comfortable with the city manager's message that his his memo was in in error. Would that be accurate, Mr.?

Yes, sir. Thank you. And I apologize again for that. Not not I can say that if you all will allow me the flexibility to meet with this team, the BSO executive team this next week, we will be back to you all on May 26th uh with answers to everything that you discussed here tonight and the dialogue, Vice Mayor, that you and Commissioner Smith had. I think that's an excellent idea. We can show options. we can show exactly what they would agree to for a one year and then on down the line but just please give us the flexibility to go sit down with them next week.

So, but you anticipate you'll have that information all back that quickly? Yes, sir. We will force it. Okay. Um because I was I was wondering when you mentioned you'll come back to us. I'm sorry. Not next week but on the 26th. Okay. On the 26th. Um because yeah, I was wondering when you said that you would come back to us if you meant at a city commission meeting or would you come back to us one-on-one ahead of time to kind of get the information out to the commission so we're not sitting here for three hours? We will do both. Okay. Because I I think that's I I really think that's important if we try and on every item if we try and get information to the commission ahead of time so we don't have to sit here for three hours to to hash over things like that.

Yes, sir. I totally agree. one-on- ones and the commission meeting on the 26th. Very good. Thank you. Thank you for that. Um, we got Commissioner Fess.

Yeah. I I don't I don't want to waste my time sitting in one-on- ones with ultimately we're going to sit here with we're going to sit here with a 33 because let's just be honest about it. The the what what I'm seeing happening is the same thing I watched happen for CRA budget last year. Same thing happens. You're you're just taking this position. I wanted the legal determination first. I want to find out if we do. First of all, I don't know that Mr. Harrison, you're welcome to negotiate whatever you want. Of course, but ultimately, if that's if that fails, let's say you you negotiate the the pants off a four-year, right? But if it fails, we have a one-year option. We can never legally be out be without public safety. So, so I mean, so that's my point is you're don't want to put us that they're now the worst negotiator ever because if I was PSO on that side, I'd sit here, I'd watch this and be like, well, I mean like are do we have any protections for the one year?

Could I could I make a recommendation?

Yeah, thank you. I think when the negotiation team gets together as as we talked about options give a scenario that we both parties negotiate for one year give a scenario that both parties negotiate for a multi-year whether that's two three or four years whatever the consensus and the negotiation team the the tentative agreement that the team comes up with on both sides that will benefit the city as well as meet the needs of BS So, all of that information is then brought back to the commission for a vote, whether you want to go with the one-year contract or where whether you like the terms and conditions as well as the expense of what a multi-year contract is going to be presented and present you with. I think truthfully

limiting yourself before we even start negotiations does not give us a good footing to begin the negotiations. So I would caution not to limit us but yet bring back a one-year and what that those terms and expense and conditions will be for the one year but also let you know what a terms and conditions and expense will be for a multi-year. And then you all get to decide. But then you have the full picture and you're not limiting the negotiation team and you're not limiting yourself either. Okay. I have I have I think I have a potential solution that may that may be amenable to everybody. It won't tie hands. You doubt it, Commissioner? Okay. Well, that's that's definitely the spirit of working together. Thank you.

I mean, for Christ sake. Go ahead, Commissioner Fess. Commissioner Se. It's not my motion. This is discussion on the motion. Comm Commissioner Fess has the floor. I'm I'm not going to bother amending a motion until I have it until I throw it out there and get some input and and I maybe we open up to the public if you want to negotiate a term. And Miss Mayor Mr. Harrison, you've said that there's a 90-year 90-day termination on every for every contract. Correct. Did you as part of this? Is that what you said? Uh with this contract, there's a 90-day termination. So, but so in this contract is a is a one-year or is it a multi-year current contract?

What we have right now is a one-year extension with a 90-day termination. Yes, ma'am.

Okay. I would be open. So, here's where I will here's what I'll be open to. If your negotiation listen if your negotiation team wants to try to bring back a multi-year agreement that it has to be approved on an annual basis. So then that way we still have to approve it every year. Uh and that might be one of the ways. So we'd have to approve it on annual basis until we actually negotiate a five-year term. But I I really think that we're in a better position to just stick with the one year. I don't know why we're complicating things at this point, but I mean I I'm I'm trying to find some way like maybe we do two years. I don't know. Okay. Mayor go to Vice Mayor then back to Commissioner Seag.

Again, I think we are absolutely beating a dead horse at this point, but I would am reacting to what is in a memo that says, "I've changed my mind. I'm going forward with the four-year unless you tell me otherwise."

So, I like we've said over and over, if you want to spend your energy negotiating a longer term deal, that's fine. But I want to ensure we get all the the same effort, energy, and and best negotiation we can of a one-year deal. And I don't want anyone to come back and say, "Hey, that memo said that." And I appreciate the city manager clarifying it and correcting the mistake. But some of us up here don't have the same level of of trust and want to make ourselves very clear for the record that of what we want so something doesn't come back later and say, "Oh, that you guys never voted for that, so I decid so I did this." You know, I just think this is a point of clarification saying that this board is telling you that we want a one-year extension negotiated also in addition to whatever you decide to do in based on the memo that you wrote us and said you weren't going to do a one-year.

Very good. Commissioner Sean. Yeah. And I just want to remind everyone as well that legislation has already passed that says that we cannot reduce the amount of money that we spend for law enforcement regardless of what happens with the property tax reform. So we cannot reduce we are locked into what we are paying this year. We cannot reduce. So just want to add that little tidbit. Thank you. Very good. Further discussion on the motion. Seeing none, let's go ahead and call the role. Commissioner Fezit, you clarify the motion again. Direct the city manager to negotiate a one-year um contract with BSO. Yes. Commissioner Perkins,

yes. Commissioner Seerson Eaton, no. Commissioner Smith, no. Vice Mayor Ponier, yes. Harden, no. Vice Mayor, you're still on the floor. Okay. There's one other topic I wanted to talk about which might be even more controversial. ready.

All right, here we go. Um, so like I said, there's some things that I really think it's not right to kick the can down the road and wait till November to deal with. Uh, and one of the other things that's really been bothering me and I sat down and with Tammy and John in engineering and talked about was parking at the beach. Uh, I spent a lot of time down there. I hear from residents, our neighborhood has to drive and park at the beach and it really is an issue. We had a we have busy season and I I don't want to say to the residents and everyone, oh, we're we have an election coming up, so we're not going to plan for a parking garage until we get figure out who's sitting in these seats in in December. I think that's a really bad uh policy and I think that the residents deserve better than that here. So, uh, I also don't think that, um, they need we need like the Taj Mahal of parking garages. I think parking garages are one of like the least exciting things to build and to tell people you have to build. So, it's like do a good job with the the form and function of it, but it doesn't need to be the premium product in terms of the like every aesthetic, especially when it's not even on a a major road. So, I uh talked to engineering um, we looked at the proposals. there was, you know, approximately a $19 million garage and then that was kind of dismissed by city engineering and the the committee as not meeting, you know, as having not everything fully baked into that cost and that once we um fully loaded it into what we needed, it was going to be more expensive than that. Um but then we jumped up to, you know, the 30 or$ 32 million option with the really fancy cladding and and all of that. And I in talking to John and Tammy, it sounded like if we came back and and and and said, "Let's value engineer this a bit because it's a parking garage. It's not an art museum. Uh let's uh can you, you

know, come back to us with the best parking garage you can that meets our needs for 25 million?" And you know, they looked at me and said that sound, you know, that's a reasonable thing to to ask the board uh if you know to ask us to do and I think that this board should do that. I think we should ask staff uh to come back to us with a a more affordable valued engineered parking garage for uh instead of waiting until December. I mean, nothing is going to be cheaper in in another year. Uh nothing's going down. The residents, as much as no one wants a parking garage, we we need a parking garage. And people don't necessarily realize that now, but we are we are going to lose parking at the beach. We're already in, you know, a difficult situation. And so, um, I would like to make a motion, but I'm not going to make the motion yet because I'm going to just ask my colleagues if they're even willing to think about this because if Commissioner Seagerson Eaton says no and Rex says and the mayor says no and Commissioner Smith says no, we're not going to think about it because it came out of your mouth, Allison, then I'm not going to waste my time making a motion. But the motion would be to ask staff to come back to us uh with a valued engineered so I guess they go back, you know, they can figure out how the procurement works. I think we've gone out to bid for this enough times that that I think uh it's probably legally allowed just to go out and and and ask a couple of these builders um these to can you do this is what we need. Can you do this for 25 million? Um but to come back to us with a value engineered parking garage that meets our needs for 25 million. So that my motion would be to ask staff to do that. But commissioner, can I I just I mean

uh yes, I I would love love to respond since you use my uh my name. Uh I just want to remind you that the mayor, myself, and Darlene Smooth all voted in favor of the ranking by staff to build a parking garage. You Perkins and Fess all voted against it. $32 million garage. So my excuse me,

there was not a fair comparison and I believe the cone of silence may have been breached and I believe probably if we want to talk about the proper procedures, we'll probably have to put it out for another RFP, put it out on the street again. So that's a process. I voted in favor of a parking No, your answer is no. Your answer is I voted in favor of a parking garage. We need it. You voted against it. Commissioner Fess voted against it. And Commissioner Perkins voted against it. Okay. So, yeah. You want to bring it back? Let's do it.

No. I want to ask staff to value engineer a $25 million parking garage. I don't want your opinions on anything else anymore today, to be honest. Excuse me. How is that compromised? Well, it's my report. I didn't make a motion. I asked a question. So, is it really open? Asked a yes or no question. This is not a motion. Time out. Time out. Time out. Isn't it my report? Okay. This is Commissioner Fornier's report. She asked for and she commissioner Seag yes or no question. She asked for input from the her fellow commissioners and that's what she got. That's right. That's what you got. Understood. So I I guess and I want to also just say one more thing. This parking garage is not going to be paid for by taxpayer dollars.

This is going to be paid for by the parking revenue enterprise fund. We all know this. We all know this. Thank you. That's all well aware of that. So, okay. So, I have my answer for Commissioner Seagerson and Eat and she will not support anything that comes out of my mouth because it came out of my mouth. Okay. Um, don't put words in my mouth. That is not true. I'm sorry. Vice funny, isn't it? Okay. Okay. Okay. Got the three laughing hyenas. That's That's enough. That's enough. We've got We've got Commissioner Forier. This is her report. Commissioner Forier, you you you mentioned my name in that. Yes. Mayor, would you support us going back?

I would certainly support asking the city manager to ask his staff to come back and give us options for that. I'm not going to make support a motion to do that. I think he's perfectly capable of getting that information.

Mr. Harrison, will you please because I had a meeting with staff anyway. Will you please go back to staff and ask them to put together some kind of memo for us on what a valuegineered $25 million parking garage would look like? And with that, I would like the opinion from procurement on what type of process would have to be followed for us to go out and make that happen. I don't, you know, I don't believe we need another RFP because I think that's been hit been on the street so many times, but I would like an opinion from procurement on the best way to go out and negotiate a value engineered $25 million parking garage. Can you a memo for that?

Uh, yes. Yes to everything you said. Plus, I'll need to get with the city attorney's office because we do have uh an exposed contractor with all of their numbers out there uh on the original. We have three of them request for proposal. I'm talking all of the contracts talking about the best the the final best offer on that. So, we'll we'll look into it and uh come back. And just so I'm clear, all of the numbers were out there, not just the one that was selected. In the ranking, we had all their proposals and all of the details. So, everything's out there. When M. Can I ask Mr. Harrison? When do you anticipate that? I mean, how long would it take? I mean, I just had a

Well, wild guess. Yeah. I I would think by the uh fourth Tuesday in June. Okay. Okay. By by our last meeting in June, but I mean, you can get the information to us before then, right? Uh hopefully. Yeah. Okay. Good. Good. Thank you. Sorry. Yeah. We're not asking you to come back with it negotiated. We're asking Yes. Staff

feas. This is feasibility. And based on my conversation with engineering, it sounded like uh it was feasible to value an engineer down to something that is way more affordable than the than the the Taj Mahal we got. Okay. Um so I'm going to avoid the motion there. We're because it's pointless. Um, it's absolutely pointless. So, I'm Yeah, I mean it's my district, so yeah, I actually have a lot to say about it. Um,

I have been since the parking garage, which I thought was a terrible idea. Um, at 30 something million dollars. I agree. And things were me were really messy when I looked at the pyramid. I have talked to I've talked to business owners. I've talked to um just I've researched. I've done I mean I've talked to I've talked to just anybody out there I I picked up the phone made phone calls I've searched the internet then I've gone back to also what residents have said that they've wanted right and so they're not against parking almost everybody's in agreement we need parking we all agree one of the one of the things that I did hear and I and I did see from the the um RFP was that actually that the the future plans for a hotel development and that was why they had the footprint that they had for this thing But it had to have a certain wide space so that there could be a future hotel development. And I just want to point out that in district one I've what one of the things that I've been asking for and I've worked I've met with talked to you know engineers is it possible I've talked to companies that sort of would make these happen where we could potentially have something get it back. One of the thing I found out by the way when I was having all these conversations was that the the reason one of that some people were so upset I think about that parking garage is because they were promised xund number of spots which in in a in that parking garage which then when you did the math backwards there was 700 spots and I know at least 200 were were spoken for and there potentially more especially with a potential future development right next door to it that's now not $40,000 of space that's 80,000 so so it's actually more I went took the different approach and I said okay well what can we do that we can get parking maybe even more parking than 700 spaces right but because we're planning for the future but how can we use that space that was a park and give something back to the residents too so even if it's funded partially you know

even if it's not funded immediately by what you would say is is is taxpayer dollars it is but you know a lot still we're still investing money we would be able to have something where we look at it and sort of reverse engineer a better idea for the land itself. And that includes a parking garage, potentially a community center of some kind because District 1 has none at the moment. I mean, we don't have we don't have we're losing our green space left, right, and sideways. So considering that was Oceanside Park first, I'm fine with being Oceanside parking as long as we end up putting some green space back and not and just allotting. If we're going to build a parking garage, let's do the best we can with the entire lot, not the little sliver that they gave us so they can build out another piece later. I want to make sure residents get a res a park next to this and I want to make sure that we get something feasibly, you know, where we keep our costs low, not just in the buildout, but maybe in the long-term overrun. I've even been looking at companies that do these automated systems because I was up in Nashville for a little bit. There's there's a lot out there and I don't I want to make sure that if we are going to have staff go back to reverse engineer something, I want it to be something that the residents actually want as opposed to what they're going to try to shove down their throats so they can do a different project. And as far as I'm concerned, if RMA is anywhere near this or our parking consultant is anywhere near this, I am absolutely not ready for that. And I will not move forward until they are gone.

Okay. I I I I understand. Um and there were a lot of issues with the what was brought before us. So I think um the the best path forward was not that. But I I think at a more affordable and different process maybe we could get somewhere on that and I'd like instead of just completely ignoring it until December, I'd like us to kind of keep the wheel in motion a bit. Um with respect to RMA, we'll just transition right into that. Uh, I I appreciate the memo that we got. I know that was a CRA ask, but it was um I was really actually upset when I read the police report and the the memo on the incident. Um, the aggressive physical behavior, the verbal abuse by someone who is a longtime consultant, the principal of RMA, a longtime consultant in our city really bothered me. Um, so I would like to know at our CRA meeting since it seems like everyone's getting run one request for our CRA meeting. It's something we've all asked for, but I would like to know in very granular detail what RMA is doing for the $31,000 they get a month from the Northwest CRA. I want to know line item by line item what what the work product is what they are doing for us for that much a month when we're also paying broke a point you know 300,000 a month or whatever it is um so I want to know what RMA is doing the Northwest CRA that so that we understand as a board that why they are the only consultant available who can do this right so uh I have concerns with retaining them so I I need to see what they're doing to understand if there's other options out there for uh consulting work. So, very detailed report on the $31,000 a month in the

Northwest CRA uh in the backup of at least in the backup of not a discussion item on our CRA agenda next week because the reports that we're getting just have a total number and they are insufficient at this point giving we're dealing with um I think a situation of them being fired in Coconut Creek, them being fired in Boon Beach and me I personally have very big concerns concerns after reading the reports about the the physical and verbal abuse that I that the was doled out by our consultant. Okay. And with that, I think I think I'm done. I'll give you So, my quote I they're not as good as Darlings, but I did write one down. Um, what we fear most is usually what we most need to do.

Thank you. Very good. Thank you. Um, just a couple of things. First, I um I know Commissioner Seagerson.

Thank you, Commissioner Per Perkins. Um, first I um Commissioner Seagerson already mentioned it. Memorial Day parade and ceremony. We're start starting out at 9:00 a.m. on May 25th. Um, meeting over there uh by the uh by the park parade route and finishing up at the cemetery. Um, also I just saw here we've got a Willie Nelson concert on May the 19th at the amphitheater. That's always always good. Also, I want to do a big shout out for a local resident, um, some someone who cares about our community, a woman by the name of Tracy Boyd. Um, she lives, uh, she's she went to the grave the graveyard, the forest lawn, and she noticed that the gravestones for Mr. and Mrs. Elely were in very poor repair. So, she took it upon herself, and she made some phone calls to local residents. Um, I'm not going to name name any because I'm sure I'll miss some, but she took it upon herself to make some phone calls to local residents and she raised enough money to replace those gravestones with some that are, as she termed it, more fitting for the two people that uh that are buried there. So, I just want to say thank you to Miss Tracy Boyd for her efforts. I know she's uh she indicated she was planning on having some kind of a new reveal of those headstones on June 19th. I'm not sure if that if that's accurate or not. Um, but thank you to Miss Tracy Boyd for her efforts on behalf of our community. Um, and also I I do want to also point out just touching on the RMA issue which has been talked about a lot here um in the Boon Beach situation which people have heard about. I mean the public's heard about it. Also the the the two people who were at the Boon Beach CRA, they're no longer there because uh well I I'm not going to say why, but they're no longer there. the people who actually were working for the Boon Beach CRA, they've been terminated by by the city. That's it. Have a good day. Thank you.