El Dorado Solid Waste Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting

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Yeah. So we have a calor cycle member attending as a participant or as a as a observer today. Julie's gonna be here. I'm just gonna get her.

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to do this. Alright. Let's get started.

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do it, Don? Yep. Okay. Thanks, Jen. You can call to order.

Okay. We're gonna call

the meeting to order at 10:04. Alright. So first, we'll do a roll call. Katherine Schwartzbach here. Don Present. Laurel here. Ted. Here. Katie? Here.

Paige. And Sarah?

Here.

Deanna? Cool. Dina? Here. How do

I do that? That's okay. Because it looks like Diana. Good. So

Michael's not here. Excuse me. Terry? Here. Christopher?

Here.

Catherine? Here. Okay.

Just wanna know we have alternate Monafe here, and then we've got, our three members up on the single call, and then we have some people, Austin, Christina, and Mark, and Mr. Tenkis. We're gonna go. We have 10 out of 12

or 10 out of 11. Okay. Alright. So starting here.

Let me move on.

Yeah. We're we're meeting approval.

So their site is an approved location. Okay. So we're good to go. There's no requirement to remote. And now we need to do the pledge. So let me share the screen so I can

just check this real quick.

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of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, that will ever

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Open forum.

Do we have any

sorry. Meeting always hurts my neck after all. Do we have any members of the public on Zoom? If you if you need to talk, please raise your hand. Nathan, Mark, Christina, Austin, would you like to make any public comments? I'm not seeing any hand raising. So it looks like we're good to go. No members of the public here?

No? Well, no. That's not

Yes. I'm glad Zach is there. Yeah.

But welcome,

Zach. Thanks for being here.

Good to see you again.

Reduction, I mean?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just be loud.

Yeah. Yeah.

I can introduce myself really briefly. So I work with Power Cycles local assistance and market development branch. I've met maybe half of you guys already before. So we're just Power Cycle's arm that's providing resources and assistance, local jurisdictions, cities

and towns. Yeah. And my name is Zach Smith. Zach

functions as a lot of our point person with Power Cycle and a lot of things, so we begin our discussions with him with a variety of issues.

I mean, thanks for letting just have And

we have our alternate, Monica. Hi, Monica. How are you? I'm good. And yourself? Good. Thank you. Alright. Thank you.

Okay. So before we go into the adoption, I just wanna do, like, a preannouncement. I just wanted to show everybody what this new agenda looks like. Obviously, we have all this stuff here, but you might have noticed that I did everything ahead of time. Yes.

So now we have the count effectively a calendar with, like, all our locations. We've got draft agendas here. You can go to our final agenda here, and then these are draft agendas so you can check out what's coming up and what we have scheduled. We've got this meeting detail tab that shows all our all our agenda items and, like, potential actions. And last time, I had cleaned up our agendas back Way back in time.

You know? And so, like, we have extensive history now about all of our meetings, and it's all cleaned up, and it's all good to go. There were some pieces I couldn't fill in. There were some votes that happened that weren't recorded and stuff like that, but the the outcome of the vote was recorded. But now I have extreme details on the motion zip, second zip, all that stuff.

Like, it's one stop shop.

Yeah. Everything's gonna be in registration. So it all points here. So you would I'll be even running the meeting. No more internalized documents or anything. Great. I'm gonna file the agenda about a week before each meeting. If, you know, if you need a little bit more time, let me know. But, you know, if it doesn't make it, it's fine. Like, we'll we'll get it on the next meeting. And pretty much, you can kinda see the flow of the whole year. You know, there's our summer meetings are more sparse. We've got our tour meetings over here, and then we've got our big November meeting. So I hope everyone likes the system, and let me know if you have any have any feedback.

I do. Can we come day shall we say the agenda's gonna be finalized? So if they're So it's kinda hard to put,

like, a hard date on it. Okay. I just, like, kinda once everything's in, I'll final it. Alright. If somebody says, I'd like to do it a week before, but that's, like, that would be nice. It legally has to be done seventy two hours. Seventy two hours. I will I will absolutely final the agenda by seventy two hours. So that has to happen. So but I will try to delay if someone needs to delay. If you're missing a data point or there's error on something Yeah.

We typically don't do that. But

So we'll get there. But, otherwise, I hope everyone likes the system. We'll see if it works. You know, we'll kinda continue to use it. This room is a little cramped. We've been using this room for a year and a half. I'm gonna start exploring potentially other rooms maybe in the future, but right now, this works. Okay.

Just as a clarification. Y'all was pointing out, generally, a week in advance or so, we get the draft agenda.

You get well, now you have draft agendas.

So that that would

Now.

You have draft agenda for November. Okay. So nobody can kinda go, oh, I didn't know what was on the agenda. Like, you know what's on the agenda for May or June, whatever. If you wanna put an item on there, you have you just need to send it to me, and I'll put a in the shipping edition. The boilerplate stuff, the s b thirteen eighty three items, the waste recycling tonnager ports, that's already been those items have already been created and assigned to those gems. Okay. Everything is done. Okay. So yeah.

Just to clarify. So, Jen, so

if we see something, we'll then

pull that up a little

on the grab agenda. If we see something that's, like, there's a wrong date or it's cut Yeah. There, then then we can go and change it up on my

Yeah. I can go change it, you know, very quickly. And if you wanna add an agenda item, like, I wanna talk about fulsome or something like that, and you can put that on there, and I'll throw it on there anyway.

Slam in the door on.

No. The head of the drafts just show what's coming up. And instead of going, oh, here's a draft agenda a week before the meeting, now you have a draft agenda for eleven months from now. Mhmm. So everything's done. So, yeah, I mean, I'll just show you real quick just as a quick example. Here's the agenda for November. And it's you know, everything's already done. These these items are all unique. Here's where we're go over the EAR. Here's when we're gonna go over the 2026 calendar. Like, this is all done.

So

Jim, do you mind sharing your screen?

Sure. Sorry. We're looking at the twenty twenty five November agenda. And then this is what I was talking about with kind of the agendas that are ahead of time.

Cool. Thanks.

Okay.

Any other questions on the scheduling ahead of time? Yeah. Please let me know if you have any adjustments or request. Okay. Back to our our agenda today.

We're on the consent calendar. Yeah. And we have two items on that during discussion.

Previous meeting minutes. Sorry. This is let me put this up. Yeah. This is our November 18 meeting minutes. Don had some suggestions last time. He was able to add that. You know, I've noted everyone's been approved. Who's that primary and secondary? Noted the quorum was approved and a and a vote showing that it was approved. Any other comments on this? So that's really easy. All of sudden, I I put this into final, and then all the votes are tallied, and you see everything on where to start. This is just a guidance form to actually see real votes. So very cool.

Okay. And then this is our staff agenda, our staff report. Any questions on?

Do we have a motion to approve?

Okay. I approve.

Mhmm. K. We've got a motion. We have a second. Okay. Now we go back. Oh, okay. Dixon. Yes. John.

Yes. Laurel.

Yes. Doug. Aye. Katie. Yes. Sarah.

Yes.

Tina. Yes. Gary.

Do I have since I wasn't here?

You know what I get.

You can you can can approve your minutes.

That's what

I'm doing. I'm approving. Okay.

Christopher. Yes.

Catherine. Yes.

Yeah. That'll pass us. Good job. Okay. So just to clarify for new new folks, when we approve the adoption of the agenda and the approval of the consent calendar approves both this agenda for the meeting and anything on this consent calendar section, that's the meeting minutes and staffing for it. It's kind of like a saves a vote or two. You know? Okay. So let me bring up our next agenda item, which is the EDD waste and recycling tonnage reports and the STR waste and recycling tonnage reports. Okay.

Can you guys see this there? Yeah. So I changed the format of this finally. I did this the other day or last week kinda just to give you a better sense of hey. Come on. Come on. Just to give you a better sense of kind of the data sorry, Chris. I wasn't able to pull that data. Yeah. You're fine. Yeah. I got it here. Yeah. So this is very similar. I just removed a lot of those, you know, 100%, 0% fields because those are being diverted.

So now we have a better breakdown. I also was able to splice out commercial, residential, and public, which free to explain, and give a diversion percentage and create some fancy graphs. So showing over time, as Dom, you like, back to 2023. Mhmm. So seeing some good data here. You know, I'm trying to make the graphs inspired by the material. Yeah. Green for organics.

Appreciate your help with this.

Yeah. No problem. It was pretty easy. I think that's a cool, you know, graph is total landfilled with total inverted. We want that number to go up. You know? And a diversion percentage over several years. So does anybody have any questions for Christopher or Armada on this report?

I think just kind of looking at I guess for South Lake Tahoe, given that you have changed your system, your f three card, we weren't there before, just sort of how that's going and how you think that's impacting your numbers.

Hang on a sec, South Lake. Sure. We can is there anything for work on I

think just, you know, how do we I know you just got your everything up and. Sure. So but we're kind we're pretty flat. Yeah.

I know we've kind of discussed this in the in in past meetings. You know, I think a large focus for us is just continuing the education, trying our best to help the, you know, constituents who have put the material in the community really understand, what goes where. You know? It's it's this it's this ongoing challenge of trying to build a relationship with the person who's putting the material in the can. Unfortunately, we don't get to control what goes on inside the home and then ultimately makes it into the can.

You know, I think we see some opportunity with C and D now that the we, you know, the roof rebuild is complete. We'll be able to to, you know, sort and process a lot more C and D cooling material, which is an opportunity for us. But from a recycling standpoint, it's really just continuing to try to drive home that, you know, we don't just wish cycle anymore. Not everything goes in the recycle can. We have to be specific about what we're putting in there. That's so So

I had two unique items. So I was like, okay. Let me test this. So what I couldn't find was the wizard. It's like, I I've been you know, I've known this forever. Forever. And, you know, just to be fine. Yeah. So I had a vacuum cleaner that died, and I had a coffee grinder that died. Yeah. And it's like, okay. Well, they're not anyways. But, I mean, just I I didn't find any place. I mean, I know I can call.

Mhmm.

But I think for the public to have it really easy to know what goes where.

Sure.

And I think that we're not there yet. So, you know, and those were just, you know, two random items that just happened to go out and, I mean, really out in the same month.

Yeah. And those are common relationships. Right. Yeah. But you could have something either similar to that that would pop up and say, well, you got a coffee grind. It's probably $7 to a blender.

Yeah. And we have the Waste Wizard, Catherine. So maybe it's just us trying to better locate it on the website or Yeah. On our social media channels and things like that.

Did do my third party build the Waste Wizard, or was that Our

our website's done Mhmm. Cool. They're

Yeah. Regard is our waste wizard. Okay. Sure.

So they make updates to the system and determine So something like that.

Like, if you suggested, hey. Like, if we you typed in vacuum and it wasn't on our waste wizard, we would reach out to the com the company and say, please add this item to the waste wizard. Here's how it will be this other stuff. I think what what Catherine's probably saying is she had trouble finding that the tool. Yeah. We have a lot of stuff in the Waste Wizard. It's just it's probably not easily found.

So Really made that front and center. I could

find it. Now I couldn't find it. So and it wasn't that I wasn't I I spent some time. Yeah. It's like, well, maybe here. Maybe here. And I just thought from the general public Yeah. Really the system, which is dependent on people making the right choices in their homes.

Yep.

Mhmm.

And so it needs to be easy for people to know to make that choice. And and I, you know, I think also it's like I'm assuming that that just means I need to drive those in. I don't put them in my garbage.

Right?

Correct.

So knowing what things do you have to drive in versus

Yeah. Or we we could pick them up curbside with our, you know, flatbed service. But you make

a good point. I think people wanna know quickly. Yeah.

If they don't, then they're

on the front of screen. So Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot of people calling in about the Waste Wizard and trying to use it, trying to figure it out and stuff. So front and center.

Good. Yeah. And and I think you've got a lot of older people who don't even you know, they're they're not even gonna look up the waste wizard. Yeah. But I'm I'm thinking, is there a way with education with their bill or something? Just a reminder. Here's what can go and recycle. Here's what can't.

Yeah. We send out our The glasses.

Bag or any plastic wrap or anything can go in there. No. There's a lot of education still.

Yeah.

A lot of people that just a little reminder every single one about. Yeah. This is trash. This is recycled. Yeah.

They're having the information now on the bins. Like, for some they had a new recycling bin. So having that is great. Mhmm. It's it's like it's right there where you put it in. So I think it's just making things readily available. Sure. What labels?

Can't require new cans are required to be labeled by 2036.

Oh, old and existing? Yeah. Yeah. So How about, like, a high quality, like,

a a piece of it that would just slap out a lid. You know? Put this on the lid.

Yeah. We we have those. Anything, like, that's in the field that's old or we're out doing a repair or something like that, generally, we'll take the sticker. Yeah. It's it's the exact same thing that's now been molded into the container. So you know Yeah. 30,000 carts is hard to catch up with. But but it's it's a priority of ours for sure. So any opportunity we can to resticker a dumpster or smaller and inserts. Yeah. That's an it's an option as well.

Yeah. Again, all by 2036, all cans will be blue. All recycled cans will be blue, and all cans will be required to be labeled in some way, hopefully, permanently. So those stay healthy.

So if you have one of those new ones, I mean, it's that. But Yeah. Don't have a new one.

So, like, are all I don't know where this conversation is going. I mean, interrupting, but but you said all cans have to be blue?

All recycled cans have to be blue by 2036. Lids. Oh, the lids. Lids. Sorry.

The lids. So you get the option, if I understand, with Power Cycle, you can either do lids or you can do body. Some somebody different if you go to San Luis, they do it different than we do it, but the requirement for power cycle is that you've gotta have either lid color changed or the body of the car changed. Obviously, we have a ton of green stuff out there, so we're going with lid color.

Yeah. I was gonna say, like, do

you just will you just replace the lid? Do need

Over time. The lids get slowly. Yeah.

So And what do you do with all the yellow lids? Cycles. Yeah.

Was, like, three more ways. We got we got two out of three, so it wasn't that bad. There are jurisdictions that did not have that. So the yellow ones had to go over time, but so they go to blue. So now you see yellow and blue until

Yeah. It's true. I asked you. I'm like, what's going on?

Yeah. Yeah.

Is the plan to eventually have a little sign or whatever embedded as opposed to paper?

Yeah. So everything we've been ordering now for the past, I wanna say, two years Molded. That's it's actually molded. It's actually molded and builded. So she just got her newborn. You can go you can't go take that off.

Yeah. No. It gets on

there. Yeah.

She did some of the right eye inspections when Zach and I, and we noticed there's a lot of pain. I'm sure it's just a process.

So long term, if they're. Yeah.

Asking our our folks that are in the field every day to identify some of that for us too. And then over time, we're doing that.

We're getting the labor requirements were good, but there was some frustration there because we weren't sure of the best way to do it. You get Sacramento sun for three to six months a year. It really sports pretty much any label. Yeah. I think there's anything create in that. Yeah. Yeah. Including paint jobs in our car and stuff. So cars. So, yeah, it I think this stamp this embedded label. But, yeah, we'll clean up waste stream identification, especially with the firm. Any other comments for this? Yes, Don.

Could you go to the the very last slide there on the version? Sure. I kind of when I see that now, I really like that. And it's just kind of thinking ahead. We may not wanna talk about it today, but the the committee of doing the solid waste management plan and review.

When I look at that, I'm thinking that would be a perfect tool when we're doing the solid waste management plan and review to stretch that data for diversion back to 2016, which is when kick in with the f b the organic waste recycling. And then as we go along there, may not recall this, but I did I did see, like, when the when the CalRecycle put out the, I guess, the template to kinda show the schedule of what we were gonna be doing under the organic waste,

they

had all the different target dates along the timeline. It seems to me to be a really good idea when we're doing this always management plan because of the next five years to take that out to 2016. And on there, we'll identify all of the programs that we've implemented since 2016 so we can see based on the implementation of or the initiation of programs, we can see which programs were implemented, and then we can follow very easily to see whether or not those programs are having any effect on the diversion.

Sure. I can try to provide that.

The exact committee thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Try to provide that data to the the committee. I only went back to 2023 here because I felt like

the reports were reliable. I'm just leaving it dead. Yeah. Because there's a difference between initiating the program, which we have pretty good documentation. But if we're pretty much out of the 42 strategies, I think there's only maybe six long terms that we haven't implemented, and we're still showing the same little range that we've earned after all those programs were implemented.

So Sure. I think our solid waste management plan review is going to probably entail more of identifying the evaluation of the implementation rather than whether or not we initiate the program. And that's just struck me as being an excellent way to to very easily say, these are the programs and all the effort we put in. These are the big programs, and that includes all these education programs that we put in. Oops. And then just see, oops, wrong, how how we're doing and maybe somehow come up with the big picture.

Okay. I can share that information with the ad hoc committee in any time.

And then what's the second question I have was I was just kinda curious why everybody knows that I look at all this data every time, and

I start going to my

old folders and then comparing two years, three years, and what have you. So kinda gave me a real shock when I looked at that now being so used to the one that we've worked on for so long. Just as a I don't know if it's imperative that we keep that. That almost looks like the data sheet that you would use to go ahead and put it on the one that you've been giving us as the as the presentation. Versus that has the total for for each of the months, but then it the thing I look at is it doesn't have the total for the year.

So, yeah, I didn't add quarterly or year to date on this. I could splice it over here and add that just the way I set up this form. I I meant this to be more expandable. So what happens is if I enter 2025 data in, it it automatically adds to the scrap Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Which is nice because then I don't have to recory the size. You know? It's a little bit easier structurally. It's a lot less work. And I did this kinda on the fly because we didn't have a lot of time. But I can add year to date and quarterly to date data over here in this little sidebar, or I can create a second field, which will print out right here, and I'll just have the table with year to date and quarterly data if you guys want the quarterly date, year to date data. Is that do you want that?

I would prefer to just put the go on this one and continue on here and rather than going up and down.

I'm gonna do it this way from now, Todd, because that sheet is obsolete. It's it's not very conducive. It doesn't show, you know, yearly results really well. There's a lot of dead data on that. That's, like, you know, 0% conversion, but does make sense.

This is

this is the best data we have, clearly. If you want the quarterly and yearly data, I can easily add that. I just didn't add this.

Okay.

I didn't want it to get all cluttered. I wanted everyone to see we were able to splice this out. It looks pretty good. This is good data, quality data from EDD, and you can see patterns here. I mean, you can clearly see pops and construction over summers with that. And I think that looks really cool. So Yeah. You know? So, wow, what a drop in C

and D data. Yeah. So some of that some of that C and I just looked at the numbers and, like, the drop in October. Mhmm. That's when we were doing the transition from Wet's Elmovia to Right. The MERV. So Yeah. You know, in theory, there

was So I'll add quarterly data and, yearly data back onto this. And I'll see if I can go back in time and get it more reliable for both year end and. Okay. Alright.

And would you mind sending me the template on this that we can go ahead and work on? Because I'm I'm gonna have to put that into this one in order for me to to continue my process of of following through. And if I wanna start adding, you know, data to reports and stuff Okay. I have to insert two different Sure. Ways and everything. So I don't mind. If I have to, then I will just go ahead and take the pertinent information Okay. From that and redo it on here just so that I can keep track and not keep going back and forth.

Okay. Anything else for you you need? Mhmm. Okay. Let's talk about STR. Thanks for waiting, everyone. Any comments for STR regarding the report?

Yeah. I'm mainly just wondering how remember, the diversion number is down a bit for November. It's hard to know which is seasonal versus doing the three I mean, that's a huge undertaking and a lot of public education to make that transition. I'm just wondering how that was going.

Did you guys hear the question?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the three CART is going really well. I'm not, you know, I'm not sure it's gonna move that diversion number a whole lot. I mean, we are capturing certainly more residential yard waste.

So in that green waste category, you know, with the recycling, we we're getting more, but it's not gonna be substantial enough to really move that diversion number. I mean, we were capturing quite a bit of that through the dirty Murph process before. So just kind of a change in the way we're processing it. But and it's just a little bit like, these are our outgoing, you know, numbers, and so that program started in September. So I think you can see in November, the line recycle, which is what we're getting from the cart recycle bins.

That is you can see November has ticked up pretty significantly. So, yeah, I think we'll continue to see that increase. But the Dixon, the the diversion percentage, it kind of fluctuating mainly at seasonal. That's mainly our construction demolition and asphalt recycling that affects the big swings in that number.

Yeah.

And you'll notice that, like, on STR's data, their disposal numbers actually go down in the winter, but the percentage of diversion also goes down, and that lowers the diversion rate. So everything drops, but disposal becomes a higher percentage. You can really see the seasonality in this jurisdiction. Mhmm. It's really fascinating. I would like to go back and graph this data back to 2023. You guys have been really consistent, so I have a long way to graph. So I was actually gonna do this for the next meeting. It really creates the charts, but you'll really see extreme seasonality here.

Mhmm.

But the summer diversion rates are great. 73%.

Yes.

Anything else for us, Dior?

Nothing else. Thank you.

That is received and filed. Okay. Let's do the RDRS reports. Let me pull those up.

I have one question. Anybody else have a question? That was for STR. Just looking on the mixed waste organic collection stream. It was the report, the sum for the quarter. And, you know, the total incoming weight over 16,000 plus outgoing was 3,000. From the outgoing weight, all materials sent to disposal was twelve nine fifty eight. So just trying to understand. I know when we went to look at this site, you have some materials that you hold for while and just kind of wanted to understand what

Dixie, do you have a page number?

You know, I'm not sure. Did it At

the very end of the report, Tim.

I think that's

So it's under organics measurements with that better mixed place within collection streams.

Yeah. So the the number that I think keep going, Tim. Sorry.

This report never ends.

It keeps

Here's going. Alright. So

So that's our only reporting on the mixed waste organic collection stream, that 16,000. We also, you know, have a source separated organic waste stream. And so the those numbers wouldn't be, like, even close. The incoming and outgoing of the so so sorry. The you would add to the outgoing number the material that came in that was already source separated.

That's just not included in the total incoming weight of the mixed waste organic collection stream. Does that make sense?

Kinda like they're stating it's not here, is what I'm hearing.

Sorry. Say that one more time.

Just despite beta that's not here, so this is this you know, if you just read it, it looked like we've got a lot going to dispose off.

Right. Right. Exactly. There's another stream coming in that's not reported as part of this calculation. This is just the mixed waste organic collection stream.

Like in the mixed waste.

The three three cart will now, actually be source separated.

This was pre three cart. Okay. Alright.

So see if there's any change. I didn't have any comments.

Can you can you sorry. Can you go back to page 12 just for a quick

Page 12 on which report?

On South Tahoe reference. I was just curious when we list the the destination organizations. I was just curious. What is the waste that that you guys sent to to Keith or Landfill?

Treated wood waste.

Okay. Notoriously hard thing to gird up. Yeah.

Yeah. They won't take it anywhere in Nevada from folks in California.

And where do we where do we send ours? We don't I don't think we send anything to keep the gird

We have two windows to keep it. All of our treated woodways has to go up. To keep it as well.

As a matter of fact, there's been some problems that have arisen that have certain sizes Oh. Of treated woodways. DOT had a bunch of treated woodways that was too big, and it would All your PG and E

power poles and all of that stuff, then it's What are we doing with it? Like, they're too big. They can put an 18 foot power pole.

They're Yeah.

Treated. So you're gonna have to work out a system where they're broken up. Obviously, breaking up, sawing through that stuff is pretty nasty. So it's just a really tough material. There was a time you might many of you might remember when nobody could take it because it was being considered a hazardous waste, and the state just, you know, created kind of a snafu where nobody can take it. It was dead in the water, so it was accumulating. Started finding out the roadsides. Are you

gonna ask PG and to cut them into 10 foot lengths

or whatever you need to work?

So, yeah, so we've been hauling power poles specifically for PG and E for quite a while. I got I got to this organization in 2018. We've been doing this since then. So I think prior to that, we give them a dumpster, sits on their property. They cut their stuff up, put it in there, and they call us for this. You know, like, call. So they do it. I think where we see the challenge is somebody brings it into the transfer station, and it's big or railroad ties. We got problem with railroad ties. You know?

It's too large as well.

It's really big, and so it's gotta be able to get, you know, into the dumpster and then not kick kick sideways and wedge and stuff like that. So really, like when we say, like, six foot lengths is really, like, moving the meetings. You know? Some of these

things are hard to kind of talk to.

Yeah. Yeah. So what exactly goes to Carson City, and what goes to Lockwood?

South Tahoe, what goes to Carson City, and what goes to Lockwood?

It's all essentially the same material types. It's all MSW or or C and D, but, you know, we just sort of operationally sometimes go to Lockwood, sometimes go to Carson City.

Depends on the data.

But then it seems like Carson City gets a bunch of monster if the number is so higher.

Yeah. Exactly.

Okay. Michael. Well, the other report I wanna just ask specifically about that type of waste. Is it not repurposable? Yeah. So I I I remember as a kid, my my parents wanted to build a retaining wall at a railroad. And back in the day, people would just, like, go find construction sites. Yeah. And, like, they're like because they like, they they would redo a rail line or something. There'd be a bunch of the old railroad ties. People would just go get their trucks.

Yeah. I was gonna say still retaining wall. Personally, I think railroad ties aesthetically look pretty cool too. But, you know, dealing with them or getting rid

of them. Yeah.

But, I mean I guess the challenge would be if we, like, accepted it and stored it and waited for people to come get it that wanted it. It's like

Well, it's gonna be, like,

the PowerPulse too. I don't know what they're specifically treated with, but

if they're you know, I why why couldn't

they get from the oven to six by six timber or something like The dust

is highly toxic. Yeah. It's I mean, the more time that passes, the worse you realize treated wood waste is. I know personally because when I touch it, my arm breaks up hives. Nothing does that to me, by the way. I can run through a grass field and, well, I'm fine. But, like, if I touch treated wood waste, boom. Like, I will get an idiot allergic reaction. Milling, sanding, sawing creates tons of dust, creates tons of liability. Obviously, he would very spooked to just give people that material. Like Yeah. Like, there would have to be serious liability releases and stuff. And don't do this. Don't correct me.

Like, I'm just as a I'm a landscaper, if I could. Yeah. So I'm looking at going, oh, I could take a six foot hole drill for a hole drill, put a spike in it, and

I could stack them. I could Mhmm.

I could make walls out of, you know Yeah. These internal timbers.

But there's nothing saying you put in

I don't have, like, the pick and pull I don't don't

know. Don't it sounds like what you're

Yeah.

I don't know for sure. I would I would say if you offer that level of service, there's probably a certain level of, like, liability concern there, know, Especially as you let people start digging through piles and stuff. Yeah.

We did. Yeah. We sold it.

Yeah. But I don't think that, like, how it ties to the humanities. Yeah. It's just really it's really nasty. When it was designated hazardous material by mistake, even though it's not now, it really put a chilling effect on it. A lot of people started to not use it even if they could avoid it. Like, I started seeing, like, sheds with metal, like, foundations instead of treated wood waste and stuff. People I remember I was actually looking to build a new retaining wall, and I asked, do you guys use trade wood waste or trade wood? No. We we don't.

So, of course, there is applications for it. As a landscaper, you could essentially call the right people, get access to it potentially. There's nothing saying you couldn't because it's not like you need to be that household hazardous waste handler. You're not

gonna recycle it or retrieve it or anything. I mean, for giant pieces of it, but, like, for smaller pieces, we could use them as a post.

Yeah. That's, you know, offensive. Yeah. I think there's just an overall chilling effect of liability there. So Alright. As you can

imagine, doing them to the air quality and all those fires with all that greated wood. Oh, gee.

That's what I about burning. I see those images. Just like Yeah. Smoke is bad, but, gosh, the the most in it. So,

I of course. Screen TVs have burned.

If I'm being honest, I think it's a material that will be based out of Yeah.

It's material to preserve the wood. Yeah. If they can find something.

Yeah. Different kinds of approaches. Yeah. For preservation stuff, jacking up, creosote

and stuff. K.

Any other questions?

What type of waste is curious can we sense of in the Forward Landfill?

What are they specialized here?

Forward's a standard. For us, we send MSW to the forward.

Oh, same stuff. Okay. You know, as just disposal, not as cover or as cover?

It depends. Our ADC can go to landfills as well, and then it's land applied. And kind of the way it's used at landfills is we use it as a different layer, and then we build trash on top of it. But that way, it almost acts as, like, what do we call, like, an absorbent. Right? Because the way landfills work. Now we're getting into how a landfill work, which is a whole science in itself. But, yeah, ADC typically will go to a landfill and get the hand applied. That's what they call it. Right. They take the material to spread it over all the trash, and we'll just

That's what we do with Petraro Hills, Eden BioSolids. They go they go to Petraro Hills, and then they took an Eats, but they go for 86.

Yep. What would be

the difference in just a ballpark figure of the cost transportation to both of those and everything else that you're sending it to same waste truck over waste municipal solid waste to forward as opposed to what? Just a Yeah. Specifically, like

T and D, I'd have to I'd have to I'd have to work the numbers on transportation and dispose a lot of

them that off the top of my head. But I

can find out there's differences too. Sometimes landfills have like, different landfills have a daily cap material they can accept. So one landfill maybe can only have, you know, call it a thousand tons a day versus the can have 3,000 tons a day. So there's just the nuance is there too doesn't probably have to work with them.

Okay.

It's item number five. Okay.

That's received and filed. This is our annual our routine SB thirteen eighty three discussion. We talk have the jurisdictions and everybody discuss what we're go what's going on. I'll start start from the county, then hand it off to Julie. We're continuing our two major initiatives at the county. One is Breathe California, which is educating the kids about s b thirteen eighty three related. Julie just attended Jen Zach attended this seminar this morning. Or excuse me. Oh.

Seminar. That's

not the

right word.

Assembly. Assembly. School assembly at Georgetown School today. Yeah. Cool.

So, yeah, we're getting more schools on board. Julie, it went well, I guess. Yeah.

I think it went really well today. Yeah. And then so usually early in the week, they do an assembly to teach all the kids what they're going to be doing, and then people stay there all week this week during lunchtime and help the kids sort follow-up their through stuff like that. And then they leave resources, so they bring all the bins, liners, everything for them that are. Then they'll see at at the end of the week, you know, do they need any more resources? Does Reed need to come back extra weeks to help or not? And then they continue to check-in with the school to see how it's going, things like that. So yeah. And, Monica and those guys joined us too, so it was a nice.

Really? Really?

They like the schools up to see that we're all collaborating together. So the jurisdiction, Mahalar, and then the educator group. All three of us are on the same page coordinating and working together. I think that that's gonna help a lot with the buy in post calls. Yeah.

I think

that's right.

Yeah. And

so that's where is

that again? Georgetown? We're in Georgetown. It's Oak, Pine. We'll get

started. Evenberg.

And I know you guys have certain areas, but are we looking to come to the Glen

Hills area, Buckeye, Rescue? We've offered it to every single school district in the county. We're kind of at the point of just who's reaching out and showing interest and wanting to get involved, and that's kinda where you guys come in to reach out to your principals and teachers that you may know to let them know that the program's available and that they should sign up. And

We're on we're on is this?

We're on boarding oak or so, aren't we?

We're in talks. We don't have a MOU from them yet.

Okay. Don't

like that. We've we've

kind of been in talks with everybody for about almost the entire school year. So so usually, where are the decisions made?

At what level? Like, at the principal level or more in the

The superintendent needs to sign that MOU. Okay. But the if the principals are on board, then Then it'll work. Yeah. It'll work its way up usually. But, yeah, they do need we need at

least an MOU signature that they And I know you guys are using some of your funding. So if and we have a funding available. So if we were to get it in IR, it would be ours. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. We can talk about either including our contract with Bruce or you having your own contract with Bruce.

Okay. We've reminded We can talk to you. We've reminded the schools that Julie's played good cop and said this is a great program. And, you know, I I played bad cop and said, Power Cycle is gonna come off you. Right. They're coming, and I've also confirmed that with Power Cycle that they're going to be coming for the the schools because it's such a, you know, important nexus for I C1383. So when you're talking to your local officials, your superintendents, your principals, let them know there's a sense of urgency that this money doesn't exist forever. They need to get on board now. We can see how this

do it, Terry. We can get you in Yeah.

Some of those calls because I just thought Dana came up, I think, on Friday. Yeah. One of the calls, the superintendent for cluster from cluster. So having you guys on board to add that extra pressure is

This is really the centerpiece of Eldorado County's efforts. As I've always joke, I kind of have abandoned us of the older generation. Right.

That level, and then they're going home.

And then like, mom and dad, why aren't you doing this?

The four a strategy. This is proven. It works. So we're gonna keep doing this, But we just need these schools to get on board. And I understand it's really frustrating for administrators because there's a lot of different programs that's in the cloud and stuff, but BREED makes it so easy. So they come in and handle everything. So My bad. Yeah. Okay.

So the other thing

I wanna mention is we're working with a marketing firm, JSR Strategies. We put out this feeler. Carla, our public information officer, put out this feeler for self haulers. We have one more requirement that we're trying to get out to our self haulers. It's a really tricky population to contact and to explain this to. It's kind of a you know, it's like a big horse pill. Like, you gotta be like, hey. Now you have treat your food waste at the Murph Gatehouse and stuff when you come and drop off your waste. So we put out this this this form to get information. We had kinda mixed results, but that's what we expecting.

We wanted to get feedback and stuff. So Julie has cataloged that feedback. One tricky thing about the county is we really have two counties. We have an East Slope and West Slope. So a lot of people thought this applied to the East Slope, and there was some confusion. So we're gonna try to clarify that in the future. If you're a Westslope self hauler, this applies to you. And then this was only this only went out to the web. Now we're gonna do we're gonna move on to mailers next, eventually contact people that are are completely off the grid system of calling if they don't have an. Call. So we're continuing to reach out to these cell callers. We've known that they've been a difficult not their fault, just a difficult population to educate, and a lot of questions come up.

When you say it's that part of residents or Yes. People?

Or Residents people that are are that do not have service with EDGE, do not have organic service and are in nonmigrant areas. Or don't have green service available to them. So they might have trash service, but they're on green waste, or they don't have service at all. So it's really hard to contact. It's not it's no easy way to try to find those. I mean, you would have to honestly, it's not it's not easy. So and then if we wanna, like, spam everybody, it would be really confusing if you were, like, lived in Cameron Park. You got a notice about SaltCall, and you're like, wait. What the you know, I already

remember this.

Like, we have this. So there's, like so it was our marketers had a real challenge for. Where we tried

the good news, though, about those that were confused about whether this was Southlake or not. They showed that the Southlake education that they did worked. Yeah. Because they were like, wait. We were told to do this instead. Yeah. And so I actually saw that as, like, a good opportunity and a test of that they they did learn their process of how to do this in Southlake. And they were looking at this, and then Southlake Tahoe went on social media, and they were commenting on those Yeah. And providing their own education, which I thought was really awesome. We did clarify it really quickly.

But I think, ultimately, like, putting something like this on social media was good for us in the sense to get feedback on one did people get the message, which they did. They got the message. Yeah. Whether they were happy about it or not is a different story. But the second thing too is it also gave us ideas on how we could provide better resources or what might be available. Like, for example, a lot of the comments were like, well, we don't have locking green lit. So then I talked to Kristen. I said, can we start advertising that we have those now? Can we let people know? And so we can add these now that when we do a mailer, maybe provide better

or more information to the people

through that. And then, also, they get to vent on social media, so they don't call us. They just put it on there, which is kinda nice. That's okay. And then he

he also

provided us

QR code?

Like a

Did say about the QR code?

Yeah. The QR code is basically where you could go on in and provide additional feedback and answers, kind of some questions on a SurveyMonkey. So we've got some feelers out, which might answer some questions I know the board has asked previously. One of the questions on there is, would you prefer the county to be mandatory service? So this is our opportunity to also just get feedback from the public of, you know, would you you don't have green light service. Would you like you know, or different things like that. And so putting these feelers out hopefully will give us at least some data. Because right now, I I think a lot of

our conversations are what we think could be response, but having some raw data might

helpful in guiding our decisions in the future. So once we get the mailer out on this, we

can share the results maybe of those the feedback that we've got. And this

is focused on s p 13 a three, but there is no reason not to sneak in some other tertiary information, like hazardous items that we're using red as a category for, explaining our batteries, electronics, all the way back.

Don't put that in

the bin. That's right on the go. It's a e you know, CR. How much trouble do you

have with that as far as people put especially Yeah. I can see people driving their car battery over to the facility. But, I mean, when you change your flashlight batteries and you've got three little batteries

It's a

serious problem, and they're affecting everybody in the country and the state. So yeah. Is there

a way to because they're not gonna drive that over, so I hope they live, you know, five miles from the facility. Yeah.

We can

get you a battery bag.

Yeah. Oh, there's a little plastic bin that Yeah.

That we did. Yep. Yeah.

A lot of people just put

When it's out of warehouse, don't know.

Able to take it off. Okay. I don't think

I don't think that would about that at all. Yeah.

We've been pressing that pretty hard.

I was gonna say, I haven't seen any notice in any of my bills.

But that would be another buzz where you could say, I don't know where it goes. Yeah. In the waste Yeah.

The waste reserve is on there, I think too. So this was this was also, like like Tim said, a tool for us

to kind

of reiterate a lot of the already done. But

but there are items that are fall out of the regular. Yeah. Yeah. For them to know, you can go. I mean, you can fall, and they will help you because I had an IV before, and it was very helpful. But I think to say, we have a place you can go to

find out. Yeah. I think it is on the fly.

I really like that. I have a business in soap batters. Yeah. I was thinking if you if you could what if we have you've made, like, little round like, little stickers that I could apply? I mean, it'll be

a bit a little bit

of labor, I guess, but you can apply them to all like, everything that's sold with the battery. I I get to stick them on all the products. Something that's small, unobtrusive that wouldn't take away from the merchandise at all. But I would remind you a QR code

or something like that about the recycling.

How to dispose. Yeah. Because if I have, like, a spool, I guess it would take me you know, take a minute,

and I get to stick them

on all the batteries. I mean, it'd be a little bit of work. And

Yeah. But but because every time you buy a battery Yeah.

Because that's where you're gonna know.

It's an interesting idea. That's, like,

the point.

They should they should do maybe some of this new California legislation will require the producer to do that for us. Right. But it's an interesting idea for sure. Like Yeah.

When you go

to throw this away, here's how to do it.

If you buy it, you're replacing something.

Yeah. Because, like, I I have a I have I have flyers,

but they're eight and a

half by 11. Yeah. And that means it takes up eight and a half 11 of my retail Yeah. Which I can't do. Yeah. You know? So it's like, I need something else that would work because and then I then I can't find them because my employee moved them or something. Sure. They take up they take up space. So if there's some other way that I could that's what I thought, like, a little sticker that I could make a 100 of them up roll or whatever. We could just pop them on, it'll say, you know, a website or a QR code or something.

Please just sign No trash. In here. Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't Yeah. Put in the trash. Interesting idea. The new the

new tiny batteries have the little logo on them that says don't put them in your mouth.

But And this one.

My problem doesn't be It

would be bad. One big target is the big pens remotely.

Yeah. Embedded batteries are a whole

Embedded batteries are a real part of this problem. Actually a significant Electronic toothbrushes, razors. Starts in the fires. So I'm really trying to you know, a lot of people see electronic toothbrush, and they're like, it's just a toothbrush. They don't think about that there's a little thing on battery in there. So we're working on getting accepting, you know, lithium ion batteries from cartridges. Again, they're legal black wire that can come up that can be problematic. But, also, like, you know, it sure would be nice if the smoke shops took back the lithium batteries yet. You know? I'm going in for a new cartridge, and then I can drop off a battery because it looks bad or something.

So now that environmental management is overseeing the smoking program, the tobacco program, we might reach out to I think it might be a good idea to reach out to some of those places and go, hey. We are potentially willing to accept huge lithium ion batteries for vaping. So that would be kind of a potential just common sense solution. That would be great. So I'm gonna talk to Jeff about that soon, see if we can do that. But, yeah, anyway, these practical solutions really help. But, yeah, a lot of it is those the vape pens and.

Share that idea with our suitability team.

I all other things that I noticed is I requested a battery box, but I got the bag. Mhmm. And so I thought another thing

I thought of was like, well, I

I couldn't if there's some kind of a dispenser that came on a roll, I I might be able to have those. I might be able to hand those out. Those seem cheap enough that I could pass those up. Yeah. Might be able to keep those on. I'm actually. Because those are labeled, obviously, really on there. They don't take a

lot of space, so I could

I don't know how they come. And or, like, in a box.

Could roll them up, rubber band

them out or something. Yeah. I might be able to do that.

K. It's like letting people know at the point when they buy it, but they're making that decision to get rid of it if they have the information readily accessible.

All also, another thing on that is when they do mercury recycling, they give me a they give me a zip tie. And I think

it's zip

you could zip tie the bag shut or something. When they do mercury? When I when I recycle a a thermostat. Yeah.

Yeah.

And so I I I was looking at the battery. Well, how am I supposed to seal this? And it looks like it has, like, a Ziploc

on it.

Oh, on the battery? Yeah. Yes. It's a it's

a Ziploc. Yeah. The the thing is, though, is that the Ziploc is applied with adhesive, and that type of plastic doesn't like adhesives. And so my Ziploc was together on one side.

Oh. So my bag

was open. Yeah. Yeah. That was so important. Yeah. So I just took some tape and taped it. I just wrapped it. I just taped it around. But I was trying to think, well, what that didn't work. So

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the bags are are it's newer for us. So That's just feedback. Yeah. No. That's good. That's stuff we

wanna hear. Either zip tiem or

tape on

the shot. The concept to move into that, like, bag too was that the mouth is larger, so you could fit a DEWALT battery or something in there and sometimes in those jars. Yes. You can fit a laptop battery or an iPad or something like that in there Yeah. Which is really kinda why we moved to that bag, bigger opening. So I'd rather you put your laptop battery in there or your old iPod or iPad or what have you. But that's kind

of feedback we're looking for.

So that's good to know. Yeah. Last comment on the county. We are considering procurement activities of high quality organic waste, working with city of Placerville on their co site and potentially scouting out of the second site. And then on a personal note, I went to go shopping the other day at forklift, and they had all compostable bags in the in the vegetable section. I've been using those bags for diaper bags. They're the old plastic ones for diaper bags forever, and I was shocked to see everything was BPI bags. Wow.

There's they're produce bags. Yeah.

They're they're compostable BPI bags. You can use them for food waste and stuff.

So what are those made of? Usually, like Is it just like a weakened plastic, or is it some kind of a bioplastic?

Like a corn oil or compostable BPI bag? Yeah.

Actually I don't We could probably find I don't know the specific engineering on them as long as they're accepted by landfills in the state of California, then

because it's like, if it's just another plastic, it just happens to break down quicker.

It's definitely, like, material yeah. The material When say breakdown, I

mean, fall into smaller pieces of plastic Yeah. Yeah.

Versus, like, a natural starch. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. It's very starchy. It reminds me of, like, a potato bag Yeah. Or, like, that kind of material. And when you get it wet, it does start to break. So I keep, like, my bag of celery to keep it, like, moist and stuff, and I noticed the bag was starting to lose its composure a little bit. So but it's nice to see those bags in the grocery store. Yeah. Mhmm. Big change. Right. City of.

Wait. K.

Well, this actually is City of. Dina and I met Massimo, I think it was, with Upper Room. Mhmm. And so one of the reasons that we reached out to Upper Room is because we've been able to manage all of our tier one generators for edible food recovery through our food banks, but our food banks really don't have the capacity to take on the tier one generators. We don't have

a ton

of them in this county, unfortunately, but we still need to find a resource for them. So we didn't really wanna start enforcement on them until we had a resource to provide them or a connection or place that they could take the food and how to do it. So in working with kinda like the Southlake Taco Group and the Marcello Foundation, She really gave me some ideas of how we could locally find some connections and build our own connections in that way. So we met with upper room to see if they would be willing just as a pilot to start with two of our generators that are in the city of Placerville and take on those. And the the challenge Dean and I have is that as regulatory, when we go into a lot of these restaurants, they're like, we don't have any food left over the day.

We make to order. Like, there's not enough. But then my nonprofits like the Marsello Foundation go in there, and they're like, hey. We wanna help you. Like, what do you got going on? They're like, we're so embarrassed. We have way too much food leftover. So having a group like the upper room, the upper room can work directly with them about, you know, capacity and how much they actually are going to be taking in and have, and they think they don't really have to do that with us. So the upper room has offered to provide that service to us for our two two generators. So we'll start with the two, see how it goes, learning process, and then hopefully, we can onboard any of the other tier two generators that we have throughout the county using upper room.

And part of that will be that they will have to transfer the food and bring it to upper room. We're kinda, like, gonna work with them to find those dynamics of, you know, when's a good time to drop off, things like that. The practice that Marcello Foundation has found is that they've provided packaging, which has been helpful. And, also, they've provided guidance in the sense of, like, for example, a restaurant late night. Instead of trying to get rid of the food at the end of the night, what they can do is package it, cool it down, and then it can be delivered somewhere properly the next morning, which would kinda be the idea working for a program. Yeah. And so we're hopefully gonna start working with them soon in the next few months to get them on board to start trying it out.

The numbers either from the tier two or one generator to the upper room, are those numbers tracked by either the generator or the upper room, or is that something that's gonna be separate to you?

We're gonna put on the generator for tier two. So restaurant itself since they're the ones that are under the requirement. They should be the one tracking tracking the poundage if they're donated to that program. Alright. Yeah. And they will need to track that on a monthly basis. And so and that's kinda what our grocery stores do now, but our food recovery organizations, the food banks, they do it more

of the grocery stores right now.

So it works backwards for each other once. In a way, it's a service that

the food bank provides to them. Okay.

Now things like the app that the Marcello Foundation has built where a volunteer can transfer from the

phone number. So they're the app which track all of that with your action.

So, ideally, long term for us is that as we build these connections with upper room and other places that can actually receive the food, then we can start building in the little, like, the places that, you know, the food banks can get to. Like, for example, the little donut shop. It's not required by a tier one or a tier two, but they've got 3,000 you know, how many donuts left at the end of the day?

Where can they take

that instead of putting that in the compost bin? We can build in that them into that kind of infrastructure. So long term, the idea would be to

that has 101 beds. You know, 100 beds is the Like, things

we prepare here. Hot food.

So It's gonna be more like the hot food stuff. Yeah.

So it is as an example but, like, let's say, the apple beans have a tray of macaroni.

Someone it it's in their tray. You have to

get it out of their food tray. Right? Put it in some other because you can't just take their kitchenware.

You have to repackage.

So it has to get repackaged,

and then it has to get refrigerated. And then and then the following day, they would take it to the you know, Yeah.

Yeah. So is there a so you're you're having to onboard these food producers or whatever waste foods. Generator. Generator. Generator. That's the one. So that's gonna take some time. But then at some point, isn't there going to there's gonna be an issue of, like, well well, we have food, but where does it go? Right?

And and and that's really kind of So are we What we're trying to do is

provide But

know want to yeah. We also want now we have to find we've created another problem. Right?

It's a problem.

It's another it's another so one that's typically how it goes. Now we have another problem. We now have to go back and find some somebody to deal with that healing in food.

Well, the the idea is the upper room's already providing the service. Right? They're super efficient. So they're already serving out these those.

Yeah. Well, that they make sense, but I'm I'm wondering at some point, though, it's like, we're gonna need another upper room.

Well, senior nutrition.

Yeah. Yeah. And and that's kind of where, like like, the Marcello Foundation's been making those connections with who can take these things. Right? Like yeah. So, like, a senior retirement home might be able to take those donuts. They might want something like that. So figuring out these places that can receive the food Mhmm. What types of foods do they want that they can they can move quickly and use. Building those connections

Logistics to get all the stuff out there.

Yep. Yeah. And and the logistics really are gonna fall on

the the

required generators. But, you know, other the other ones that are

you know, just wanna do the right thing, the hope would be they can have this app that would have a volunteer that would move out from Florida and eliminate at least that piece of, like, process, maybe that'll be easier and on each other. Which is. So the senior, you know, meal program, they have volunteer drivers to take food out to people. Yeah. Right. So they already kind of have that component. So it's a matter of You would be a point in

that a lot of these types of services that are provided are done by volunteers. And and I think that's the biggest challenge even with our food banks is that, you know, your reliability of a volunteer versus staff member paid staff member is very different. And so, well, you know, this is

a huge piece that's relying on volunteerism.

But it you know, it's a feel good piece about s

p 13 degrees that people know about. You know? Like I wanted

to note too, like, I have seen it work. It's very difficult, and it's it's hard to scale down to smaller generators. But for large data, I have seen them able to, like, flash freeze their period at the end of the day, get it picked up, get it taken to senior centers, and have, like, a really well established with it. So it can be done.

But And I think that's the case. We wanna build those connections, but allow them to kind of say let upper room say what works for them. You know?

I gotta ask this because I I I'm, I guess, I'm viewing myself as the, like, a community liaison. Right? And so I I'm trying to understand. And since I have a a public establishment, I I know restaurant owners. You know? And as I think about, like, well, what what's my role? What can I do to contribute? I think about, well, I could tell them about some of the program, but then there's all these other pieces that have to get figured out Mhmm. Too.

That's why Julie exists. Tell him to call Julie. Yeah. A family coordinator. Just coordinating.

He did. Yes. He is.

Yep. Maestro. Yeah. No. It it really it sounds stupid, but it literally called you.

No. That's

but some of this stuff can get really complicated and really exist to break it down and supervise the coach. Have

some learning curves Yeah.

In it. But I I I I

definitely see, like, a long term that we can get there.

Yeah.

Just one more quick question. Regarding when you were talking about trying to get the the schools on board

Mhmm. And

you're kinda letting them know that that this is a new realm, whereas before we're implementing programs, it was you know, the the standard was, and we have to we have to show a reasonable effort is being made. Now we have that enforcement built right into it. When you're when you're telling these people the enforcement mechanism and what may happen in the fines and all this, Is this being done informally, like, in an assembly or on the phone, or are you have you sent out on letterhead to these schools, to the, you know, to the principal and all the district superintendent exactly what's happening and what the consequences may be, and then you have a record of

of that that you've done it. Because, you

know, you see this when they're they're building homes and planning and everything else. You know, they come you get a notice that they're they're getting ready to finalize the environmental impact report, that all these people show up because they never heard of this happening.

Two comments on that. Number one, it we've talked about this before. It's weird because I'm not actually the enforcement agency for the schools. The state is. So I can't I can send them a letter, which I have, but I didn't send it to every principal in SOEVA.

I sent it to the chief at Edco, and he received it and distributed it to the the superintendents and the principals. And, you know, we had a frank discussion, and my language that I used was, you know, these are the violations that the state could assess. These are the potential fines that the state could assess. I'm not the state, so I can't, like, speak for their actions or, like, what they choose to do or how they choose to go through enforcement system. You guys could create complex, you compliance systems that I'm not privy to necessarily or, you know, like, corrective action plans, potentially enforcement actions, stuff like that.

But they've been told, and they've been told for. By the jury of the That letter has gone out and has gone out to responsible parties of. And then we'll talk about the enforcement mechanism and

the filing. And it's is

it the jurisdiction that will be subject to the enforcement action, or is it in the file, or is it the individual that's not moving with that end? In the case

of schools, they're considered a local education agency. And so the jurisdiction has a responsibility to do outreach to them, which is, like, what Tim mentioned, right to saying, we this is what this agency would be doing. These are the resources that you need. But, ultimately, because they're a local education agency, they're directly under power cycles enforcement perception. So JACE, the enforcement branch of Power Cycle, the same one that would be doing these sort of compliance evaluations for the city or county, they could do that with the school too.

So I can I can notify them formally? I can I can twist arms? I can I can, you know, try to create a sense of urgency? I can send Julian to charm him. I can, you know, I can send you guys out to reach out as community liaisons and stuff like that. But, ultimately, schools are responsible for meeting power cycles objectives. If they don't, why would that? They're gonna have to answer to this guy.

But we

would have to be

know, that would be our enforcement branch.

I'm in the in the assistance branch.

But I did wanna say that, like, the assistance branch of things is also trying to ramp up our school outreach too so that we're kinda hitting schools at the same time as you guys are, and then

hopefully, they're getting a little

bit of pressure from both sides to get these programs in place.

But we have the jurisdictions. We have our bases covered because we've done our jobs. We're doing our job.

That was my only Yeah. Reference in my insurance. We have

the accountability in place even when this happens.

Yeah. We we document everything we do, and that letter has been saved in our information.

Yeah. So we're still on this item. To to put them the county. And now

How about Dana, city of Bosterville? She, like, covered a lot of it.

But Yeah. Yeah. So we did have a meeting with the Bosterville Union School District, which has three schools, and they're only gonna start with one right now because of the fee that is gonna be for the food waste container that they're gonna have to have the dumpster. So they didn't wanna do all of them because they didn't know where they were gonna come up with the money from a