Lancaster County Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, September 14, 2026

The Lancaster County Council honored local softball teams and former Sheriff Williford L. Faile, approved budget amendments for the fleet and IT facility, and voted down a development agreement extension.

About this meeting

Government Body
Lancaster County Council
Meeting Type
Lancaster County Council
Location
Lancaster County, SC
Meeting Date
September 14, 2026

Transcript

191 sections

2:54 – 3:10Speaker 31

On the detention center? That's what I want to do. Follow me.

3:10Speaker 10

That's pretty awesome.

3:15 – 4:19Speaker 11

Good evening. As we can see, we have a large crowd here. We have some special things going on. and we'd like to welcome everyone here to this meeting of the Lancaster County Council. I'd like to call it to order. I ask that the clerk note for the record that a quorum of council is present, that public notice of the meeting, including the meeting agenda, has been posted the required length of time in the lobby of the county administration building and on the county website, and that the news media was notified at the meeting time and place. I welcome you to your county council meeting. I would ask that you take a moment to turn off or place on vibrate any cell phones. Thank you for not wearing any hats or caps in the council chambers and please be considerate of others in the room by refraining from conversations during the meeting. I ask that you please stand and join council for the Pledge of Allegiance followed by the invocation given this evening by Councilmember Jose Luis.

4:27Speaker 1

and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

4:41 – 5:45Speaker 10

Heavenly Father, we thank you for the privilege of gathering tonight to serve our community. Grant us wisdom in our decisions, humility in our disagreements, and courage to always do what is right for the people we have been entrusted to represent. As we mark the 25th anniversary of September 11th, we remember the innocent lives murdered, the families who still carry that loss, and the first responders and ordinary Americans who showed extraordinary courage. May we never forget their sacrifice, and may we never take for granted the freedom, unity, and blessings of this great nation. Guide our words and our actions tonight, help us put service above self, seek common ground without compromising principle, and remember that our authority is temporary, but our responsibility to one another is enduring. May God bless Lancaster County, may God bless the great state of South Carolina, and may God continue to bless the United States of America. In your holy name we pray.

5:45 – 6:21Speaker 11

Amen. wasn't it great hearing those young voices doing the pledge of allegiance great okay we're going to move on now to the approval of our agenda uh do we have a motion so moved

6:22 – 6:33Speaker 7

Mr. Chair, I make a motion to amend the agenda to move item six, which is special presentations ahead of five citizens comment.

6:33 – 7:16Speaker 11

We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? All those in favor, please raise your right hand. It is approved. OK, we're going to go on now to our special presentations. Recognition of the eight and under eight you Lancaster County Parks and Recreation's All Star Dixie Girls softball team for winning the 2026 South Carolina Dixie Softball State Tournament for Girls 8U and advancing to the 2026 Girls Dixie Softball World Series in Florida. We have a proclamation we're going to present to them. and I believe they're all over here.

8:23Speaker 10

Brian. Just move the, Brian.

8:40 – 11:00Speaker 11

Okay, I'd like to present a proclamation tonight. Whereas the Lancaster County Parks and Recreation's Eight and Under All-Star Dixie Girls Softball Team won the 2026 South Carolina Dixie Girls Softball State Tournament and then advanced to the 2026 Dixie Girls Softball World Series. And whereas some notable achievements during the tournament were that the team won game one by 18 to two and game two by 17 to six. And whereas all members of the team exhibited tremendous effort, sportsmanship, pride during their games and whereas the all-star team members include Brexley McAbee, Bree Haley, Autumn Thale, Erin Markle, Bella Miles, Hunter Falkenberry, Taylor Whitlock, Zoe Craig, Olivia Miles, Nadia Miller-Simpson, Ava Culp, Akshi Pendergrass, Anaya, Chloe Jackson, and Emma Lowry. And whereas the team was coached by head coach Daniel Craig, and he was assisted by Stephen Mills, Brandon Mills, and Jamalia Miller. Now therefore, I, Brian Carnes, on behalf of the Lancaster County Council, do hereby proclaim the eight and under All-Star Dixie Girls softball team, by congratulate, I'm sorry, the eight and under all-star Dixie girls softball team on their magnificent achievements and wish all the players and coaches much success in their future endeavors. If we could have the girls come up and soak them right here from the dais. Great job, ladies. We'll go ahead and present the proclamation.

11:33 – 11:49Speaker 31

Parents, if y'all want to take some pictures while they're standing up here as well, I'd love to.

12:31Speaker 20

Get up here and stick your chest out. Stick your chest out. Charlie, now we should photobomb him.

12:37Speaker 1

No, but I know. Yeah.

12:55Speaker 31

Thank you, Autumn.

13:38 – 13:49Speaker 1

Give that coach that microphone. I said give that coach the microphone. Yeah.

14:13Speaker 5

Mr. Chairman, I'd like to hear from the coach. I'd like to hear from the coach to tell you something about his team now. I mean, that's...

14:25 – 14:39Speaker 24

I don't do good at speaking in front of people like this, but I'd like to say congratulations to the girls. They worked real hard for this. They practiced every day, they showed up every day, and they earned it. And that's all I got to say. I'm not good at this.

14:48 – 16:32Speaker 11

Okay, now we get to go to the 10U team. Proclamation, whereas the Lancaster County Parks and Recreation's 10 and under All-Star Dixie Girls Softball Team was the 2026 South Carolina Dixie Girls Softball State Tournament runner up. And so was invited to participate in the 2026 Dixie Girls Softball World Series. And whereas the girls competed with grit, determination, resilience, and a true passion for the game during the state tournament. And whereas throughout all of their games, every member of the team competed with tremendous effort, sportsmanship, and commitment. And whereas throughout all of their games, every member of the team competed with tremendous effort, sportsmanship, and commitment. And whereas the all-star team members, including Aria Banks, Laken Belk, Autumn Craig, Brantley Heidrich, Hensley Horton, Kinsley Killough, Sarah Leapart, Aubrey Moore, Nora Newton, Scarlett Usher, Sadie Walters, and Skyla Wright. And whereas the team was coached by head coach Dylan Heidrich, and he was assisted by Jimmy Heidrich and Charles Horton, now therefore, i brian carnes on behalf of the langston county council do hereby congratulate the 10 and under all-star dixie girls softball team on their magnificent achievements and wish all the players and coaches much success in their future endeavors so

16:50 – 18:27Speaker 1

Thank you. Can I get those three or four right there? There you go. I just want to also thank Elia and Chloe for being here.

18:49 – 19:04Speaker 11

Again, I'd like to congratulate both teams, and I know they're probably really raring to sit here and watch the rest of the county council meeting, but we'll take a couple of minutes for those that would like to leave to go ahead and leave, and we'll pick up the meeting after that.

19:06Speaker 31

You're welcome.

19:12Speaker 6

Some of you have to stay.

19:25Speaker 1

Is it warm in here?

19:30 – 19:42Speaker 31

It is right now, but we'll get a little cooler once everybody gets... Roasting it.

19:54Speaker 1

Just as miraculous.

20:25Speaker 31

I understand that that might be frowned upon. Okay.

21:20 – 22:10Speaker 11

Okay, we're ready to proceed now. We now come to citizens comments. Please bear in mind that this is not a period of dialogue with council or a question and answer period. This is your opportunity to address council with your concerns. I ask that you address your remarks to council as a body and not to any individual council member. Please speak into the microphones, state your name and address for the record, and you will have up to three minutes to address council. Your time will not start until you have provided your name and address. Karen Nichols.

22:19 – 25:09Speaker 2

Good evening, Chairman and members of County Council. My name is Karen Nichols and my address is 1683 Spring Winds Drive in Rock Hill, South Carolina. Tonight, I am here as president of the Lancaster SPCA, a 501 animal rescue group with our principal books and records kept at Neal's Accounting and Tax Service, located at 302 North Main Street in Lancaster. First, I want to thank you for the $5,500 TNR grant you awarded LSPCA in July. We really appreciate your support, and I want you to know that we're putting those funds to good use. They're helping us get more community cats spayed and neutered, which means fewer unwanted litters and fewer cats entering our shelter system. We're grateful that the county is willing to invest in prevention. I'm here tonight to tell you a little bit about something LSPCA is calling Hope for Change. You may notice there are several people here wearing red shirts. Those are members of the Hope for Change initiative and they're here because they care about the future of animal welfare in Lancaster County and want to be part of this conversation. We've been looking at animal welfare in Lancaster County, not just from the perspective of helping animals, but from the perspective of making our community a better, safer place to live. We believe our animal ordinances are an important part of that conversation. Updated ordinances provide clear, reasonable and enforceable standards that protect animals, protect people and give our animal control officers the tools they need to step in before a situation becomes a crisis. Even if animals are not something you are concerned about, animal welfare impacts public safety, neighborhood quality of life, public health, economic development, property values, and taxpayer resources. All issues you already deal with as Lancaster County continues to change and grow. We are also looking at what other South Carolina communities are doing. There are some very practical ideas already being used in counties around the state that could be worth considering here. So we are inviting you to start a conversation with us. On September 26, from 1 PM to 4 PM at the LA Taproom, LSPCA will be hosting an opportunity for people to come together, learn more about Hope for Change, and talk about some of the changes we'd like to see. We'd really love to have members of County Council join us, not to make any commitments, but simply to listen, ask questions, and hear directly from the people you represent. We appreciate your support of LSPCA and our TNR efforts, and we appreciate your willingness to start this conversation with us. Thank you. I also have copies of my comments and our event flyer for each of you and for the minutes.

25:09Speaker 11

Nice to be the clerk of the council. Donae Walton.

25:20 – 27:43Speaker 14

Good evening. My name is Donae Walton. I'm a resident here in Lancaster, South Carolina, 15232 Windward Lane in Edgewater Development. I'm here to speak on behalf of the county animal shelter that I just recently became a foster for, for interim, where they have wait for fosters that are going to take their animals or transport them. And I would like to make a request, if at all possible, that the shelter could start being open on Saturdays. I know this may be a financial situation, and if that's the case, I wish that they would take one day during the week to be closed so that Saturday could be open because it's very difficult. There are a lot of residents that live in Lancaster that work outside the area, especially closer to Charlotte. And at 5 o'clock, the animal shelter closes. And it's very difficult to get in during those times when you're working outside the community. So I'd like to at least for the council to consider having some type of Saturday hours open where families can go and see these dogs. I'm a recipient of one of the dogs that the SPACA pulled. And I am grateful for this dog, and every day this dog thanks me for being rescued. It was a case where I was taken to a shelter with a broken leg, and she was given to a medical foster, and then my husband and I adopted her. And I appreciate your comments on 9-11 because I'm a 30-year flight attendant retired with American Airlines based in Washington, D.C., and I knew the entire crew that struck the Pentagon. Not only were they my colleagues, they were my friends. And each and every funeral that I attended tore out a piece of my heart. And no matter what year September 11th comes around, it's a very difficult day. And that little dog really comforted me this past Friday. So I please wish that you would please take this into consideration. Give families the opportunity that are working during the week to come on Saturday and have some type of hours open to see animals at that shelter. Thank you.

27:43Speaker 11

Thank you. Janine Clifton. I'm sorry. I was calling the next person.

27:59 – 30:34Speaker 17

Jeanine Clifton, 2023, Oliver Terrace, Indian Lake, South Carolina. Good evening, members of the council. I'm here today on behalf of myself and several neighbors with two concerns in the new UDO draft. One is about buffer standards near residential neighborhoods. The other one is about non-conforming buffers in parking and how they're handled for developments already under construction. First, buffer requirements in Table 4.2.2.2-1, commercial uses next to residential have been downgraded from a Type B buffer to a Type A. The Planning Commission has specifically directed staff to make sure nothing in the UDO was less stringent than the current one, especially between commercial and residential. And at the time, they said there was currently no buffer yard requirements yet. What I'd like to say is it really wasn't accurate. The current UDO does require a type B buffer or greater between every non-residential and adjacent residential. It's handled through zoning, though, not in use. That's not a small technicality, and I really just wanted to make sure it was clarified and on the record this way. Moving from a zoning-based standard to a use-based standard shouldn't erase the baseline. It should carry it forward. In addition, you should find it absurd that non-residential adjacent to residential in the draft has a lesser buffer requirement than residential next to residential. Kind of weird. We're asking the council to correct the error and restore type B at the minimum buffer for any non-residential use adjacent to residential consistent with which already the minimum when property has a commercial zoning. Without it, commercial buildings would stand next to homes without adequate buffering. that we're going to continue to comply with. Second, in sections 14.3.2 and 14.3.3, nonconforming buffers landscape parking and loading. As written, existing uses buildings that don't comply can continue unchanged, with no path back to compliance. that complied with the rules in places where it was built, not development that was never in compliance to begin with. This needs to be narrowed and made explicit so the ordinance says plainly what non-conformities has always meant. We're asking council to add language limiting non-conformities protection to use in structures that actually complied with the UDO in effect at the time they were installed, not a blanket pass for everything standing at adoption. Thank you for your time.

30:43 – 31:54Speaker 18

my name is renette helms r-e-n-e-t-t-e-h-e-l-m-s my address is 2033 poinsett drive rock hill south carolina First, I'd like to thank the county council, planning and zoning, the ad hoc committee, and the consultants for all the hard work that has been done on the UDO. And I understand that it's a document in progress. My family has property on 521 south of Highway 5. We would like you to consider including wetlands and floodplains in the open space percentage. Wetlands are governed by several entities, we realize. This should not exempt them from being counted as open space. Wetlands and floodplains are environmentally friendly, encouraging preservation of areas in a neighborhood. entwining them in the neighborhood. This is consistent with the definitions in the UDO codes as written. Your consideration and attention to this issue would be appreciated. Thank you.

31:54Speaker 11

Thank you. Douglas Taddeo.

32:08 – 32:31Speaker 13

Hi, my name is Douglas Taddeo. I live at 2852 Morningstone Way, Lancaster in the Roslyn community. My apologies. I signed the registry by mistake. I thought it was just that you guys just wanted to know who is... Okay. We're having a meeting in the community Wednesday and I had a nice conversation with Mr. Tucker. So I'm just going to... My apologies.

32:32Speaker 11

No problem. Mr. Joe Kohler.

32:54 – 35:29Speaker 4

Mr. Chairman, members of the council, I'm here today to ask that you do not grant MVP properties a two-year extension on the redstone phase two development agreement. That request would let a 2022 approval of approximately 350 apartments, 20 town homes, and additional retail space at highways 521 and 160 proceed under yesterday's rules. Instead of the new UDO, this county has spent years in the making. It's my understanding that Council approved the MPV master plan and development agreement in August of 2022. And construction was scheduled to begin in 2023 and deliver in 2026. It did not. Market conditions and costs are the developers' risks. They are not a reason the county should grant an extension and allow the use under the current UDO. The new you do rewrite exists because Linda Indian land roads intersections buffers access spacing and housing miss mix no longer match the rules written a decade ago. The residential moratorium was adopted for this same reason. The 521-160 corridor is already one of the most congested stretches of the county, adding hundreds of dwellings and more retail under an older driveway, buffer, et cetera, would lock in impacts in the new UDO that the new UDO is trying to reduce. It's hard to stomach Please vote no to this extension. Let the new one project a 2 year pass around the rules that the rest of Lancaster County is being asked to live under thank you and I realize I didn't say my name or my address, I'm Joe Kohler I live at 1, 6, 7, sweet briar drive in the land. Thank you.

35:30Speaker 11

Thank you, Mister color.

35:40 – 38:10Speaker 19

First of all, I would like to welcome Brian Tucker as our administrator of the county. Welcome. My name is Toni McCammon. I live at 2112 Hartwell Lane, Indian Land. And I'm here this evening regarding the Redstone extension as well. Joe Kohler made some very good points. And I would like to add to, I guess for me, the concern is, We have had a year-long process of coming up with a UDO that everyone's been waiting for and we're on the cusp of polishing this and getting it across the line. And now we have people that are developers that are attempting to sneak underneath and and proceed without having to go with the new UDO rules. So that's concerning. But one of the things that I would like to appeal to you about tonight is that it's a second concern. And it's about the benefits that should be afforded to residents in Lancaster County when development comes in. As you deliberate any decision, shouldn't benefits for your constituents take precedence over developers or at least be mutual? From my vantage point, the Redstone extension clearly has no benefit for any residents of Lancaster County on any level. All we see as residents along 521 is more construction of apartments, commercial, and a hospital that aren't even on stream yet using our roads, our schools, and adding to the deficit of our infrastructure. That's what we see. Please. Vote no on the Redstone extension as a gesture to the current residents that our wellbeing is at the forefront of your agenda going forward. We'd really like to see that we matter. Thank you.

38:23 – 40:43Speaker 30

Hi, Ken Beck from Sun City, Carolina Lakes. As I've been attending council meetings over the last few years, we've seen citizens who have come up and spoken and responded in a timely fashion with their actions. And the council has listened, and we see the results come in. Yet I and others who have been attending council meetings have also noted the council sometimes move without regard to citizens' comments, questions, suggestions, or votes on issues which, from our point of view, seems rushed and not well thought out. One example in the last few months was the third reading, which I believe was a residential development, where there was a question about paying for fire services and the such. And at that time, the chair proposed using a way to pay for this that Lancaster County had not done before. Another council member proposed delaying the vote for a meeting or two in order for the entire council to become familiar with the potential way to pay for these improvements. The chairman said we can learn more about it after we pass it, and you passed it. And there was a quiet what from the audience, because it sounded to us like we needed to study a little more before we passed it. Could be wrong. And the recent moratorium was extended for 90 days to allow for more time for the UDO to be completed. Recently, the project on 521 between Aldi's and Culver's was approved within weeks of the new UDO potentially being adopted. Many of us don't understand the rush to approve the project without waiting for the new UDO. To many, this seems like examples keeps us wondering what's happening with the council and the passing of projects when researching and waiting just a little longer would allow for a more informed decision and maybe better results. Citizens who we elect to represent you, citizens who elect you to represent us, who take the time to be informed, have an opinion, and feel that citizen participation is more positive than negative, this area is one of the fastest growing in the country. In this atmosphere of having to respond to explosive growth and overwhelming need for resources not planned for in the past, this citizen should be a resource to help in planning and would appreciate a response after meeting at some point the topics discussed during count citizens comments in the corporate world questions are always answered we may not always get the answer we like but at least we know we will listen to thank you very much thank you stacia a star the star

40:56 – 44:01Speaker 8

Hi, my name is Stacia Sistar. I live at 1008 Hudson Street in Lancaster City. And I'm here to ask that the council go and do some upgrades on the laws for the animals. I am retired from the city of Lancaster. And I am an animal lover. And I truly believe that if somebody harms an animal, that they need to be punished severely. If they do something awful to that animal, same should be done to them in my opinion that's not the law but that's my opinion and this is from the holy bible a righteous man cares for the needs of his animal the verse shows that mercy and kindness to pets and livestock are clear signs of a good heart. We got a lot of people here with good hearts that do work at our animal shelter for free. And they get tired of people dumping animals out on them. And we try to keep up with all that we can. But when we're not doing anything about it, they're losing the fighting battle. And I don't think that's fair to them, and it's certainly not fair to the animals. And if somebody is cruel to an animal, I think they should be punished by law. Another thing that I think they should do and upgrade the laws on are the puppy meals. I think they should have strict rules, very strict rules in having animals over and over and over. And then when the mother dogs get to a point that they cannot have puppies anymore, that they decide they want to just take it to the shelter and dump it out or get rid of it. And I don't think that's right either. Here again, that's my opinion. But I would certainly like to see the laws become a little more harsh and really done instead of just saying, okay, we're going to do this. I want to see it done. Don't just tell me you're going to do something and then don't do it. I'm not that type of person. If I tell you I'm going to do something, I do it unless I'm dying or on the way to dying. So I expect our people that we vote for to do the same for us and our animals. My animal is my baby. And if you hurt my animal, you're hurting me. And I don't like it. So I would like for us to have better laws and more patrolling to keep the animals on leashes that need to be on leashes. Thank you for your time.

44:01Speaker 11

Thank you. Becky Drodes.

44:11 – 46:52Speaker 1

good evening i'm becky droz i live at 250 dogwood acres road in indian land i'm here tonight to ask you to uphold the unanimous decision of the planning commission to not to deny rezoning application rz-2026-0152 known as project magic Now, I'm actually unclear where in the process this application is. A yellow zoning hearing sign has been sitting on 521. It comes, it goes. The item has been on the agenda and removed multiple times. However, I saw today that Project Magic was referenced in the closed session agenda. So even though tonight is not a vote, I'm here to be in front of you and let you know my thoughts on this. The rezoning request is to change nearly 44 acres from low density residential to regional business, extending from Dogwood Acres Road down to Lodge Road on 521. There are single family homes on Dogwood Acres Road. And when we purchased our home eight years ago, it was surrounded by undeveloped land, all zoned low density residential. Now, I'm certainly not naive enough to think that those trees and the deer and the birds were all going to stay there in Indian land. However, we expected the growth to be low-density residential, and that's something that we felt good about when we bought our property. Instead, we already have The Point, a 44-acre development on the north side of Dogwood Acres. It includes a plat for 12-parcel commercial subdivision that will extend all along Dogwood Acres and behind our homes. If we now turn Dogwood Acres on the south side into this project magic, what we're gonna do is create a little neighborhood of single family homes sitting in a business park. I do not want to live in a business park. That is not what I moved to Lancaster County for. Now, I've also been following the 2026 UDO. And I've seen the principal objectives include things like facilitating growth where it is appropriate. And I see things like protecting community and our rural character throughout all of Lancaster County. So let's do that. Why not leave this area as low density residential? Perhaps someone can build homes for the new staff at MUSC. I always hear great kudos for bringing residents into that program. So let's give those people a place to live. If we don't want it to be low density residential, why not create a park? Create a place for those staff and visitors at the hospital to go visit. Create a place for the people sitting in traffic on 521 who are fighting road rage to get out and take a breath. So though there's not a vote today, and I don't know when or if it's coming, I ask that you deny RZ2026-0152 project magic. Thank you.

46:54Speaker 11

Kathy Storm.

47:09 – 49:38Speaker 15

kathy storm 5025 redwood grove trail indian land first i want to um this memorial was for the 9 11 and it was two of the people here spoke at that and i want to thank stephanie and Jose for speaking at that memorial. It was very inspirational. And by the way, I'm a retired flight attendant from American Airlines, too. I did not know those people, but as you know, if there's somebody that is hurt from your company or your hometown, well, this affected everybody in the United States. So I just wanted to make sure that you were recognized. You did a fantastic job. I am here also to oppose the second two-year extension to the MVP properties developer for the Redstone development. It's already been discussed by many of the other ones, but coming in on the old UDO just seems So it makes the new UDO seem insignificant even before it gets passed. Please give consideration to keeping the UDO as it's obviously needed. And the people, one of the reasons, there has been no more new infrastructure done. No new schools, no new roads, no fire departments, no water. Nothing new has occurred. Why are we even thinking of extending it? It just doesn't make sense. We would appreciate if you would do better and turn this down. Thank you.

49:41Speaker 11

Jeff Larson.

50:03 – 53:13Speaker 3

Hello, my name's Jeff Larson. I live at 2010 Oliver Terrace in Indian Land. I'm here to talk about one specific issue that jumped out at me while reviewing the recent meetings about the new UDO draft. First of all, thank you for all the time and effort over years that has been put into this. We're almost over I don't know if I'm bringing it to fruition, but I really felt the need to speak to this today before it is finalized while there's still a chance to correct something. At the recent meeting, while reviewing the new UDO draft, staff presented you with a matrix of 125 different topics to review and discuss. And those topics weren't fully vetted. And they also didn't include any public comments, as far as I can tell, that had been posted to the county website, including some of mine that point out this exact issue. It was generally accepted without verification. And one major one, matrix item 32, seriously risks the health and safety of the people of the county, including especially myself, my family, and my neighborhood in the overlook of Barber Rock. Number 32 recommends changing the use table for vehicle services minor from not being allowed at all to being permitted with review in transitional neighborhood business, so it would be consistent with the current UDO. Unfortunately, this is false. Right now, under the current UDO, it's a conditional use. It's also a conditional use in general business transitional district, which was also downgraded in the new use table. Before you, you have copies of the use table in the old UDO, the new UDO, and where you can see that the most concerning issue is vehicle services minor includes all gas stations. I don't know how that error happened but it's not appropriate and it needs to be The importance of fixing this means that if you don't, we will certainly have a gas station plopped right next to us to anchor their new development that has been chronically non-compliant. We've been talking about the issues with it for a couple of years. You're well familiar with that development and its problems. And they seem to think, based on their advertising, that it's already a done deal. So I don't know what's going on that's causing this. Please review it. Please make sure that it's consistent with actual recommendations, especially from Planning Commission. Thank you.

53:14Speaker 11

Thank you. Ms. Jean Doyle.

53:27 – 57:11Speaker 21

Good evening. Thank you, Council Members, for allowing me to speak. Jean Doyle, 6030 Kings Canyon Way, Lancaster. I'm pleased to see the county marketing team so active on social media. It may not be for everyone, but it is a good way to communicate with many residents. One posting last week caught my attention, and that was a post celebrating the one-year anniversary of the new terminal at the Lancaster County Airport. Several of us took a road trip last fall to take a look at the terminal. No doubt beautiful, clean, modern. I asked to see the old terminal, which sits right next door. Smaller, very dated 70s look. Those of us who made the visit questioned the need for such a large expense on a facility that is propped up by the county each year. It's not paying for itself. The final cost of the terminal, according to Lancaster News, was $7.2 million. The county contributed $2.5 million, and the balance was covered by state and federal aviation grants. Theoretically, I understand that a modern airport could, might, should attract more users as well as new business opportunities. The largest funding source for the airport is a sales tax that planes pay for planes that are domiciled at the airport. They have to pay taxes just like we pay taxes on our automobiles. And it's all based on value. There are a lot of many, many, many small planes parked at the airport, but most are not of significant value, so not generating beaucoup bucks for the county. The day we were there, there was a private jet parked owned by a Lancaster County business owner. We were told that the value of the jet was $25 million. That jet is not domiciled in Lancaster, but in a neighboring county. If the annual tax is 4% of $25 million, that means that the plane, if it were parked at the Lancaster County Airport, it would generate a million dollars. Luxury private planes are needed to make the airport self-sustaining. however we learned that there was a lack of hanger space a topic that was brought up i think earlier this year at a council meeting i bring this all up because the facts make me question some of the county's priorities instead of spending seven over seven million dollars on a new terminal why not spend 500 000 or i'll be generous and say up to a million dollars updating the existing terminal the The rest of money could have gone towards a new hangar, though we did learn that building a new hangar is somewhat problematic based on the existing land availability at the airport. In the recent budget meetings, when discussing funding for the Harrisburg Firehouse, there was a considerable discussion between several council people about funding it and putting aside money. The majority of you suggested $8 million. One councilman suggested $6 million. His final comments on the day that the budget was approved, you can fight as many fires with a $6 million firehouse as you can with an $8 million firehouse. And I guess I would say, you could run the Lancaster Airport Just as well by spending a million dollars to upgrade the existing facility Instead of spending seven point two million dollars for a brand new terminal It'd be interesting to see the ROI on the upside two-thirds of it was built with federal grants How hard is the county looking for additional grants to fund critical infrastructure? Grant writers can be very very helpful. They know where the money is hidden and they know how to do it They're hunters So I know it's been suggested in the past that a grant writer be part of the planning department or part of staff, and it's been turned down, but I hope you'd reconsider it. So perhaps a grant writer as well as a traffic engineer should be added to the personnel request for fiscal 28. Thank you very much.

57:14Speaker 11

Brandon Root.

57:28 – 57:43Speaker 26

Hello, everybody. My name is Brandon Roop with Justin Street Service. I'm here with my brother Justin and my dad Greg in the back corner. They're hiding from you guys. We are going to respectfully defer our application for 30 days to reevaluate some things.

57:52Speaker 11

We have one electronic comment.

58:01 – 58:18Speaker 23

Sorry, yes, Mr. Chairman and council members, we had one electronic comment from Muriel Abercrombie in Fort Mill, South Carolina. She wrote in regarding her support for Ordinance 2026-2057, the rezoning at 9546 Olin Yarborough Road. Thank you.

58:19 – 58:33Speaker 11

Thank you. And we're going to move on. Before we go to the non-consid agenda, I would like to call Ms. Sabrina Harris up to the dais. She's got an introduction for us.

58:38 – 59:45Speaker 27

All right, good evening and thank you, Mr. Chairman, council members. I just wanted to take a moment to introduce our new budget director to everyone this evening, Mr. Paul Rodriguez, who comes to us by way of Antioch, California. And so Paul has gone through a very rigorous interview process where we started with a panel interview. He came in for a second interview where he had one on one meetings with myself, administration, our budget analysts, and also an impromptu presentation with a group of budget directors. And so he wasn't the only one to go through that rigorous process, but he excelled above every other candidate as a part of that process. He has extensive background as a part of the audit process as well as budget development, several years with multiple municipalities. He's also a certified public accountant and we are very excited to add him as a member of the finance team. I believe Paul is still here. with us this evening. So I introduce to everybody Mr. Paul Rodriguez.

1:00:02 – 1:00:14Speaker 11

I'm gonna go back to citizens' comments for a second. I missed a person, Ms. Jane Alford, if you could come forward. Apologize for skipping over you.

1:00:20 – 1:03:25Speaker 16

Hi, my name is Jane Alford and I'm here on behalf of the Lancaster County Council of the Arts at 201 West Gay Street, Lancaster. Good evening, everyone. I'm delighted to invite our county council members, community leaders, art supporters, and friends from across Lancaster County to join us for a very special new film series from the Lancaster County Council of the Arts. This fall, the LCCA is bringing the Southern Circuit Tour of Independent Filmmakers to Lancaster, and we hope you will be part of it. The series begins Thursday, September 24th at 6.30 p.m. at Bundy Auditorium on the University of South Carolina Lancaster campus with the film Minnie Evans, Draw or Die. Admission is free. But this is more than just a movie night. Our tagline for the series is stories that move us, conversations that connect us. That is exactly what we hope these evenings will accomplish. Each of the six films in the series tells a compelling story about an artist, a culture, a community, or an experience that can broaden the way we see the world. But what makes the Southern Circuit especially exciting is that the evening does not end when the credits roll. The conversation is just beginning. After each screening, audiences will have the opportunity to hear directly from the independent filmmakers and special guests, ask questions, and explore the ideas raised by the film. Our opening film tells the story of visionary artist Minnie Evans, a self-taught artist who worked at Airlie Gardens in Wilmington, North Carolina, and transformed her visions and experiences into extraordinary works of art. Following the screening, filmmaker Linda Royal will be joined by Evans' great-granddaughter, Beverly Evans, and local artist Fran Gardner for a conversation with the audience. This series also speaks to an important question. Why is an arts council showing movies? Because filmmaking is art. Because storytelling helps us see the world through someone else's eyes. And because the arts give us something to talk about, something to learn from, and something to share with one another. The remaining films will explore subjects including music, immigration, identity, community, and belonging. Each offers an opportunity to experience a story we might not otherwise encounter and then sit together as a community and talk about it. so to our county council members and community partners please join us come for the movie stay for the conversation and help us demonstrate what happens when the arts bring people together six films six conversations one community we look forward to seeing you all on september 24th and i'm going to pass out some um the film series schedule and cut some of our things that are coming up this fall. Um, anybody else can find the film series schedule at the Springs house or at one of the County libraries.

1:03:26 – 1:03:54Speaker 11

Before we move on to the next item, I was remiss and did not recognize our state Senator Allen Blackmon is with us tonight. Thank you for joining us. Alan is a former county councilman and he's moved on to bigger and I don't know if it's better things, but definitely bigger things. Thank you for everything you do for us.

1:03:59Speaker 20

I miss you too, Alan. I'm now her favorite. You might be number two.

1:04:09Speaker 11

Okay, we're going to move on to item 7, our consent agenda. We do have a couple items that have been asked to be removed, and Mr. Mosteller is going to make separate motions to handle that.

1:04:19Speaker 7

Okay. I move to approve consent agenda item 7A, 7B, 7C, and 7D.

1:04:28 – 1:04:40Speaker 11

Second. We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed, it is unanimous.

1:04:40 – 1:04:55Speaker 7

All right, a motion to move to postpone consent agenda items 7E and 7F until the October 26, 2026 council meeting.

1:04:57 – 1:05:38Speaker 11

Second. I have a motion and second. Is there any discussion? All those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed, it is unanimous. Hey, we now move to item 8 or non consent agenda. First item is item 8A resolution number 1340 dash R 2026 resolution title a resolution to honor the life and legacy of Sheriff Williford L fail and to name the new Lancaster County Detention Center. The Williford L failed Detention Center. Mr Tucker.

1:05:40 – 1:07:02Speaker 5

Let me tell you this. In 2027, Lancaster County will be opening our new detention center out on Highway 9. After serving in the US Army for 32 years, Sheriff Willerford L. served as a military police officer returning to Lancaster County and serving 32 years with the Sheriff's Department. 13 years as the sheriff replacing Nae Parks. In 1997, Sheriff Williford Fell was awarded the Order of the Palmetto, the highest civilian of honor in the state of South Carolina. In 2018, Sheriff Fell was inducted into the South Carolina Law Enforcement Officers Hall of Fame. And I think there's no better way to honor the life and legacy of Sheriff Williford Fell than to name this detention center after him. I think we are allowed to do this under our current ordinances. I'm sure he makes all the qualifications. And anyone else would like to comment? I would.

1:07:03 – 1:07:44Speaker 20

I would. I don't know whether anyone else up here would know Sheriff Fell, Senior Sheriff Fell. But I did. And I had the opportunity to work with him. fair fine great man and i tell you right now you see barry there he is just like his dad so neat to the point if you wanted to see a neat sheriff that will fulfill was a very neat well-spoken community-oriented man and uh it's great for lancaster county all right mr chairman i'd like to make that motion and i'll say that double second

1:07:53 – 1:08:51Speaker 11

okay we have a motion and second on the floor is any other discussion i will say that i i knew sheriff fell as well and he was just a great southern gentleman i can say he probably laid the foundation for the modern law enforcement that we have in the county and those who have come behind him have built off of that foundation that he he laid and we we thank him for that and we do think that this honor is very deserving to him we have a motion second if there's any not any other comments we'll call the vote all those in favor all those opposed unanimous i'm going to ask that sheriff phil stand up and well we're going to ask for sheriff phil to come up here because all right okay to hand to give to him and um

1:08:52Speaker 20

When you see bad, you're looking at, well, y'all. Steve read part of the stuff that's on this proclamation.

1:09:00 – 1:09:11Speaker 5

I'm not gonna read it all, but it really touches on all the . Sheriff, you can't name cell blocks after councilmen.

1:09:16Speaker 6

According to the policy, you can.

1:09:21 – 1:09:37Speaker 11

On behalf of the Lancaster County Council and the citizens of Lancaster, we'd like to present this proclamation honoring Sheriff Williford's father, and we look forward to being able to name it the Williford Detention Center, the Williford L. Fell Detention Center.

1:09:50 – 1:10:46Speaker 28

I just want to thank each and every one of you. This is a tremendous honor for my family. You know, I guess the gold here would be when when people see the name Willa Fredale fail that it just just doesn't speak of a person who had a career in law enforcement. Previous Sheriff of Lancaster County, but it also reminds everyone about what service and commitment and excellence and integrity stand for. He did lay the foundation and I appreciate that Charlene. That means a lot and that's why we're at where we at today. Somebody has to lay the foundation and we just build off of that and most of you knew my dad Billy. I know went to church with him and talked to him quite often. Jimmy Neil, the late house member. You know, they had a Friday club that always went to eat. Of course, all those folks have passed on, but I really appreciate this. Thank you.

1:10:58 – 1:11:53Speaker 11

Okay, we're going to move on to item 8B. Second reading of ordinance number 2026-2055. an ordinance to amend a development agreement with Redstone Investors LLC and Lancaster Real Estate Group LLC in accordance with the Unified Development Ordinance Section 9.2.18.C.16.C and Section 5.02 of the Ordinance 2022-1821 to extend the development schedule and the term of the agreement to September the 12th, 2029. This passed four to three at the August 24th, 2026 County Council meeting. Stuart Graham, Jose Luis, and Bryant Neal opposed. Do we have a motion?

1:11:54Speaker 7

Motion to approve.

1:11:56Speaker 11

I'll second. I have a motion from Mr. Mosteller and a second from Mr. Harper. Ms. Cato.

1:12:07Speaker 12

Chairman and Councilman, there have been no changes from the first reading.

1:12:12Speaker 11

Are there any questions for Ms. Cato? Do we have any discussion? Go ahead, Ms. McGriff.

1:12:22 – 1:13:16Speaker 20

A couple of comments. After listening to the comments from the citizens, you know, I voted in favor of it at the first reading because I wanted to hear more and just kind of listen to the thoughts of the folks that was concerned. And I do agree with, I think one citizen mentioned the developer's risk. And my thought was, what's going to happen in two years? Because the economy is not getting any better. So what's going to happen in two years? Will the developer come back and ask for another extension? So I think it's not our risk to take. It's the developer's risk. Because as someone said, that we have a lot of reasons to deny this. And my vote will tell the story.

1:13:18 – 1:16:07Speaker 11

Have any other comments? Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor of the motion, please raise your right hand. All those opposed? It is denied. 344 against. going to move on to item 8c public hearing and resolution 1339-r 2026 resolution title a resolution to approve the favorable recommendation of the Lancaster County Planning Commission of a conditional use application to permit a bar tavern brew tub brew pub used to be located upon tax map number 0086F-0A-009.00 at 1951 Great Falls Highway. Planning Department case number is CU-2026-1423. The Planning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote, and the planning staff also recommended approval of the conditional use application. We have a public hearing scheduled for this. No one signed up, so we will proceed. Is there a motion to approve? I have a motion from Mr. Harper, a second from Mr. Mosteller. Any discussion? Hearing no discussion, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed, it is unanimous. Going to go on to item 8D, public hearing and first reading of ordinance number 2026-2056. An ordinance titled to amend the official zoning map of Lancaster County to rezone approximately 0.95 acres, tax map number 0006N-0A-006.00, which is located at 792 Fort Mill Highway from the medium density residential MDR district to the neighborhood business district. Planning Department case number is RZ2026-1414. The Planning Commission recommended approval by a unanimous vote, and the planning staff also recommended approval of the rezoning request. Again, we have a public hearing. No one signed up for that, so we'll move on. Do we have a motion?

1:16:09Speaker 20

Motion to approve.

1:16:11Speaker 11

Have a motion from Ms. McGriff. Is there a second?

1:16:17Speaker 11

Second from Mr. Harper. Discussion?

1:16:22Speaker 10

Hearing no discussion. Is there going to be a presentation on it?

1:16:25Speaker 11

We want to get a staff. Okay. Sorry. Ms. Cato.

1:16:34 – 1:17:02Speaker 12

Chairman and Council, we have a piece of property that's located at 792 Fort Mill Highway. It's currently zoned MDR. The applicant is requesting it to be rezoned to neighborhood business. Planning Commission recommended approval. Staff recommended approval. And this is in line with our comp plan. And so that's the reason why that we've recommended approval. Be glad to answer any questions. And I think the applicant may be here if you have any questions for them as well.

1:17:02Speaker 11

All right. So any questions for Ms. Cato?

1:17:05 – 1:17:51Speaker 10

Yeah, this is in my district. And I guess I had a couple of questions as this site is surrounded by residential and it's single family residential for the most part and then townhomes on one side where it's directly adjacent. Across the street, you have unique loom. So I guess for me, the first question was, what are the uses that are gonna be put here? Because if I look at the uses for neighborhood business district, there's a lot of uses that could drive some concerns for me, including schools for vocational, art and dance studios, and it looks like it's professional service, so I'm trying to figure out why we didn't go that route, the professional business district.

1:17:52 – 1:18:10Speaker 12

We went through the neighborhood business because this is going to be what they're conceptual. We have not seen a site plan, but they are proposing a small medical office. I don't know exactly what type, but the applicant, and because it was in line with the comp plan, it's probably recommended neighborhood business.

1:18:10Speaker 10

Would it work with professional business district?

1:18:14Speaker 12

Based off what type of medical office they would use, yes.

1:18:18 – 1:19:00Speaker 10

I would recommend that we probably go to professional business district as opposed to a neighborhood business district if we're gonna go this direction. My other concern was similar to the comments that have been made previously about we're this close to going through the new UDO. Why are we doing this now? We're about a month away from the new UDO. I would recommend for the applicant, if the applicant so desires, let's wait till we get to that new UDO and then review it under those parameters. So that's gonna be my first motion is I'm gonna make a motion to delay this until the second November meeting. We could and we could hear from the applicant.

1:19:08 – 1:19:32Speaker 25

We are basically planning to, you know, put the office spaces, like, you know, any office space we want to build to, you know, start with. So that is actually planned. So if that is considered as neighbor of business, Also, we are planning to get another one besides that. So the owner is kind of talking to us, and we are going to make it.

1:19:32Speaker 11

Can you speak a little closer to the mic? We're having a little trouble hearing you.

1:19:35 – 1:19:53Speaker 25

Yeah, it is basically for the office use we are planning for. I know there is a list of things, but the initial plan is to make an office space to rent it out or to lease it. That is the primary reason to go for that, because our home is nearby.

1:19:53Speaker 10

Yeah. And that's why I'm saying, would you be okay with waiting for the new UDO? Or is there an urgency that it needs to happen right now?

1:20:03Speaker 25

I don't know what UDO was, so I don't know the details.

1:20:07Speaker 10

Okay, that probably should have been informed about that.

1:20:11 – 1:20:25Speaker 12

Councilman Louise, so when the UDO is approved, the professional business will be a legacy district. So that would not be something that they could rezone to if it gets approved.

1:20:25 – 1:21:23Speaker 10

but if they rezone to the new professional business district right now, wouldn't they be grandfathered and vested rights into the professional business? So that's why I'm saying, like, right, that's why I'm saying to delay it for the new UDO, and that way we can review it under the new parameters, unless there was some reason for an urgency to try to get it in right now. It's only about a month away. it would fall under the final determination would be planning staff would be able to advise you where it would fall based off of the new uses under the udo the new udo so mr chair how do we clean this up i think we have some comments from mr tucker

1:21:26 – 1:21:54Speaker 6

I think we have a couple of things going on. Number one, we've got a motion to approve on the floor. We have a first, but no second to defer, so we need to sort that out. Just keep in mind, if the applicant chooses to defer and opts to go to a different zoning classification, it would go back to Planning Commission and start that process again. So just making everybody aware of the steps, both procedurally now, but also for the applicant to go back through the process.

1:21:55 – 1:22:11Speaker 10

I think that's what she's explaining. Okay.

1:22:46Speaker 5

if this process is restarted what are you looking at four to six months

1:22:53Speaker 10

At least. It would not go four to six months because it would just have to go back to the planning commission and they just have to schedule. Yeah. And then the three readings. So it would be a month because it would have to go back to the.

1:23:05Speaker 6

I mean, closer to six weeks to two months, but I mean, not necessarily four, but not necessarily one either. Yeah.

1:23:14Speaker 5

And then I have a concern if you're going to ask this gentleman to go back through rezoning, are you going to charge him again?

1:23:20Speaker 10

No. No. I would recommend that we waive those fees.

1:23:26 – 1:23:38Speaker 12

Let the applicant speak, but he doesn't want to have to go. He doesn't want to. He wants the neighborhood business. He doesn't. He's already spent a lot of money into whatever, to the project, so.

1:23:44 – 1:24:18Speaker 25

So we already invested a lot of money in talking to the people. We paid the cash for the land. From the beginning, we were thinking for the CNB zone. And that's why we started with the approval from the owner. So the owner consented, and now the land is ours. And we are talking to the civil engineers and the professional engineers. So the new UDO, I don't know, but basically that is a plan to go with. So initially we started with NB and the...

1:24:18 – 1:24:35Speaker 10

If you don't want to move, my recommendation would then be to go to the professional business district and then you would be under that zoning district going forward. You'd be vested rights under that one. No.

1:24:36Speaker 6

They would fall under the old UDO. It would still be a delay to go back through and have Planning Commission re-approve it under a different zoning district, yeah.

1:24:46 – 1:24:59Speaker 10

Yeah, but neighborhood business does not make sense. Cuz if we're doing professional services, neighborhood business is gonna add a whole slew of other uses that could impact the direct neighbors that are single family homes.

1:24:59Speaker 20

Can we not grandfather in if we move forward with this request?

1:25:04 – 1:25:22Speaker 6

We can't, at the county council level, we can't change his zoning district from the dais here. He would have to go back through the process. Planning commission would do it. We would run a little bit of a risk of the moratorium lifting, new UDO going into place, that zoning district not being allowed.

1:25:24Speaker 20

What would be more beneficial to the applicant?

1:25:29Speaker 6

That's hard to say without knowing how the vote's going to go on the resumption.

1:25:32Speaker 10

And it's not necessarily what's in the best interest of the applicant, but what's in the best interest of the constituents and the people that are actually living there.

1:25:38 – 1:25:53Speaker 20

That too, but hold up. That too, but he's in a position here that we've got to make a decision on where it falls. I think we need to also understand that that's going to put him in a position. We've got to always recognize the constituents with whatever we decide. Right.

1:25:56Speaker 10

So is the delay in the costs on the new application or what's the concern with the costs?

1:26:04 – 1:26:46Speaker 25

I mean, you know, we started back in like April, May. We started with them and we paid the money and, you know, we are just completely like, we are in this envy, you know, because I know the GB is not possible. This corridor is completely envy from there. If you see on the other side, the GB, but we know that the, you know, town homes are there you know all the things are there so we cannot go for gb so we went for nb to get that approval and you know build in that in that nb zone so now um if you say i don't know what are the impacts if uh the same process again from zero

1:26:48 – 1:27:02Speaker 10

My concern is if we move forward with this and then we can change it later and we decide to, he's gonna go back and have the delay even more because we've now spent the two weeks between this hearing and the next one.

1:27:05 – 1:27:50Speaker 12

So the professional business, once the new UDO is approved, we will not have that district. It'll be a legacy district. If he gets the neighborhood business and once he goes through, he's going to go by and develop that based off the new UDO because of the time constraints. Regardless, he's going to have to go through a commercial site plan and commercial building plans as required. As is either which way, but I just wanna make sure that the professional services, the professional business is not gonna be a use that's gonna be in the current UDO. It's gonna be the use that he- So that's the question. The neighborhood business as personal services is a permitted use under that zoning district?

1:27:51Speaker 12

And that's what he's-

1:27:53Speaker 10

So Jenny, if we approve this now under the neighborhood business, does it fall under the neighborhood business of the current UDO or would it be the current or the new UDO?

1:28:03Speaker 22

It would be under the current.

1:28:05Speaker 10

Yeah, so that's the problem.

1:28:09Speaker 12

So the zoning is, but whenever he submits those commercial plans into us for us to review, whatever is in place at that time is what he'll have to go by.

1:28:20Speaker 10

I don't think so, cuz I think it would be vested based off of the time frame of when- Two different things.

1:28:26 – 1:29:01Speaker 6

zoning would be based off of today's udo the standard setback signage etc would be presumably based under the new udo from a permitting standpoint we have we have a tremendous number of things right now that are zoned but not permitted so there's a distinction there between zoning and and then pulling a building permit so the plans would have to fall under the new udo yes This is not the first time, this is not the first or the last time that scenario is gonna come up in the next six months. Okay, okay.

1:29:03 – 1:29:39Speaker 10

I think if that's the case, then that makes sense. Let's just confirm what the professional services and that there's not a lesser use that doesn't have to be the neighborhood business that would still meet those requirements. And we can talk about it for the next one. But even if we're following under that pattern, if we approve it under the new UDO and it's consistent with the new UDO, than if the plans would have to fall under the new UDO. And we are approving this based off of that understanding, so that if that is not the understanding, this is not approved. Understood.

1:29:39 – 1:30:07Speaker 22

Yeah. just clarifying that for the record we'll get the research i mean my preliminary research just sitting right here says exactly what you're saying the rezoning falls under the current udo anything from here after once the new udo goes into effect is what's going to apply but i will 100 confirm that before we move on by some miracle if he's able to pull permit you know apply and pull permits before the new udo then that's a separate story but that's that's not unlikely right that's gonna it's highly unlikely

1:30:07Speaker 12

Councilman Louise, just the neighborhood business that he's requesting for that rezoning is the least intense.

1:30:14Speaker 10

Okay. Yeah, we can go back and check. I just wanted to check it.

1:30:19Speaker 11

All right. You had made a motion.

1:30:21Speaker 10

I'll retract it.

1:30:24 – 1:30:35Speaker 11

Okay. Okay. Is there any other discussion? Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed, it is unanimous.

1:30:36Speaker 5

You'll leave that.

1:30:40 – 1:30:59Speaker 11

Thank you, Mr. Harper. Okay, we're now on to item 8E. This is the item that the applicant asked to be deferred for 30 days. Is there a motion to defer?

1:30:59Speaker 10

I'll make a motion to defer.

1:31:02 – 1:31:29Speaker 22

have a motion from mr luis in a second we need to have the motion first to put it on i just want to clarify he he requested 30 days so that would be the next councilman the first council meeting in october i just want to make sure we make that clear yes it's a definite postponement can i i got a question how does this affect the public hearing we'll have to have it again at some point whether it's on first second or third i mean we don't have a

1:31:29Speaker 11

Yeah, we do have public hearing scheduled tonight. Correct.

1:31:34Speaker 22

We can re-notice it.

1:31:35 – 1:32:30Speaker 11

We'll have it on second reading because I don't think we have time to be able to advertise it. Correct. Can we have a motion and a second? Is there any other discussion? Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed? It is unanimous. We're going to move on to item 8F, first reading of ordinance number 2026-2058. an ordinance titled an ordinance to amend ordinance number 2026-2036 relating to the appropriation of funds and the approval of a detailed budget for Lancaster County for the fiscal year beginning July the 1st, 2026 and ending June the 30th, 2027. to further provide for revenues and expenditures during the fiscal year and to provide for matters related thereto. Do we have a motion?

1:32:30Speaker 5

So moved. Second.

1:32:32Speaker 11

I have a motion from Mr. Harper, a second from Mr. Neal, Mr. Catledge and Ms. Harris.

1:32:53 – 1:34:58Speaker 29

Mr. Chairman and members of council, I appreciate you having me back again today. I'm here to help explain and review the latest budget rendition for our FIT building, as we call it, Fleet Maintenance and IT Operations. I think this is probably the third iteration you've seen. There we go. So as you're well aware, the county purchased the Burns Ford building with intentions of using it as a fleet maintenance and now the information technology operations facility. We've continued under Mr. Tucker's leadership to work on this budget and get it within your original approved expenditure amount. As part of those renovations, we'll be adding two new ADA-compliant restrooms with all the components that come along with that. Also, we'll be doing some work for the fleet maintenance group to add a larger 18-foot by 16-foot service bay door on the front of the building that will allow some of the equipment that he works on to actually be able to get inside the building. Two adjacent openings will have an improved concrete approach that is currently asphalt and comes apart as they bring in heavy equipment. So that will take place here as well. One of the big infrastructure improvements is a new two-inch water tap and a two-inch water service line from the right-of-way all the way to service the building. Currently, there's a three-quarter-inch water line that's not sufficient. We'll also include some remote plug stations for EMS vehicles. You'll notice now if you go by. There's usually three or four ambulances outside. Those ambulances have refrigeration units in it. It's important to keep those plugged up so we don't lose medications. There's some miscellaneous work. Let me back up. I think I'm hitting it in Georgia.

1:35:00 – 1:36:11Speaker 29

There's some miscellaneous improvement work to break room and some millwork, some repainting of the interior. There'll be a little bit of repainting on the exterior, and then some electrical and data work associated with additional workstations for the IT group. As part of your due diligence in the building, there was a roof study done, and we'll be taking care of all those repairs that were identified by that study. The mechanical system works, but there's lots of controls issues, so we'll iron those issues out and get those taken care of as well. And I think that covers kind of the large 60,000 foot view of the scope. There's an overall budget. You'll see the completed items have already been taken care of to date. It leaves a construction budget for those items we mentioned of about $740,000, a contingency of about $50,000, some architectural fees to get the work done, and then some systems furniture for the IT department puts you just under the $950,000 limit. So back up. Any questions?

1:36:12Speaker 5

There's not a fire suppression system in that building.

1:36:14 – 1:36:26Speaker 29

There's not. The building is roughly 19,000 square feet, and it's divided into two by a firewall. We've separated the building, so the fire suppression is not required. We'll maintain that.

1:36:26Speaker 5

So if down the road there ever is a system installed, it's got to be a separate meter anyway, doesn't it?

1:36:33Speaker 29

It does. It's a separate fire service. A two-inch water line is plenty. It would be a six-inch service. Okay.

1:36:39Speaker 5

Probably about $100,000 water meter for a fire suppression system or more.

1:36:45Speaker 29

No, that's probably accurate.

1:36:48Speaker 9

Any other questions? I'm assuming the generator didn't make the cut, right?

1:36:52Speaker 29

The generator did not make the cut.

1:36:58Speaker 9

The $30,000 one? Maybe.

1:37:03Speaker 11

Any other discussion? Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. Oh, we've got to let Ms. Harris come up. Sorry about that, Ms. Harris.

1:37:10 – 1:37:52Speaker 27

All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, council members. So the budget amendment that's before you tonight is to appropriate $886,000 from the general fund unassigned fund balance to cover the remaining work for the upfit and renovation at the FIT building. Once it's completed, it'll house the workspace and staff for the fleet and IT departments. And so the $886,000, we know this is a reappropriation of funding that had been appropriated before, but this, once approved, will allow the completion of this project. And staff requests council's approval of this amendment tonight.

1:37:53Speaker 11

Any questions for Mr. Harris?

1:37:55Speaker 9

Sorry, when would this project roughly be completed? Sorry.

1:38:04Speaker 6

Apologies for the delay there. I think Chad said he could do it in two months.

1:38:11Speaker 11

He didn't say which two months.

1:38:15 – 1:38:58Speaker 29

So there's an architectural and engineering component to it, so we'll kick that off as soon as this is kind of approved. So there's a pre-construction process, and then we'll be able to develop a schedule. I don't think this will be a long duration. If I had to guess right now, I'm gonna shoot myself for guessing because y'all aren't gonna take it as a guess you're gonna take it as a law I would probably say six months from now or less that's what I was gonna I was gonna say six to nine months yeah between the time you get the architectural plans and you actually complete all the work it's probably six to nine months okay any other questions hearing none we'll call for the vote all those in favor please raise your right hand all those opposed it is unanimous

1:39:00 – 1:39:44Speaker 11

Okay, we go on to item nine, discussion and action items. Item nine A, appointment of a personnel ad hoc committee. I would like to appoint myself, Mr. Neal and Mr. Luis to that committee to work with the administrator in establishing a tool to be able to measure him by in the future. We've had a submission, and we just all need to get together and work it out. Do we need to actually approve that, or I can do that on my own?

1:39:45Speaker 11

All right, we're going to move to 9B, receive information and take desired action regarding appointments and or reappointments to various boards and commissions. Ms. Simpson.

1:39:54 – 1:40:41Speaker 23

Mr. Chairman and council members, Nikki Evans has applied to be reappointed to the Health and Wellness Commission as an at-large representative. I believe there are four at-large representatives on that board and commission and then seven, one from each council district. This would be her first full year four-year term because she's been serving an unexpired term haskell falconberry has applied to be reappointed to the accommodations tax advisory committee as the representative of the unincorporated lancaster county area that resides south of highway 5. this would be his second term and dr stephen criswell has applied to be reappointed to the accommodations tax advisory committee as a representative from a cultural organization this would be his second term can we take those three together

1:40:42Speaker 11

If that's acceptable. We have a motion to approve.

1:40:46Speaker 11

We have a motion from Mr. McGriff. We have a second.

1:40:49Speaker 11

Second from Mr. Neal. Any discussion? Hearing no discussion, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed, it is unanimous.

1:41:01 – 1:41:31Speaker 23

And then the current board and commission vacancies and the upcoming board and commission expirations are just for information only. No vote required. On the next status of items table recommitted or deferred or held, I would bring your attention to item D, which was a rezoning request. This has been withdrawn by the applicant and the email is attached, so this will no longer appear under the status of items table recommitted, deferred or held. Thank you.

1:41:33 – 2:44:06Speaker 11

Thank you very much, Miss Simpson. Hey, we're gonna move on to executive session. I need a motion to go into executive session in regards to three items. The receipt of legal advice subject to the attorney-client privilege regarding a potential contractual matter related to an economic development project, Project Magic. Receipt and review of legal advice subject to the attorney client privilege regarding contractual matters relating to solid waste collection fees. And number three, receipt and review of legal advice subject to the attorney client privilege regarding a potential contractual matter relating to the lease for a county office. and to invite economic development staff and the public works director to discuss the first and second items respectively. Do we have a motion to approve? So moved. I have a motion from Mr. Mosteller and a second from Mr. Harper. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. We are in executive session. We have a motion to come out of executive session. We have a motion from Mr. McGriff. We have a second. Second. Second from Mr. Luis. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. All those opposed, it is unanimous.

2:44:07 – 2:44:35Speaker 22

we are out of executive session miss murk dupont mr chairman for the record council met an executive session in regards to three items the receipt of legal advice subject to the attorney client privilege regarding a potential contractual matter relating to an economic development project project magic receipt and review of legal advice subject to the attorney client privilege regarding contractual matters relating to solid waste collection fees and receipt and review of legal advice subject to the attorney client privilege regarding a potential contractual matter relating to a lease for a county office no motions were made no votes were taken

2:44:35Speaker 11

I have a motion to adjourn. We stand adjourned.

This transcript was automatically generated from the official public meeting video and is presented unedited. It reflects remarks made on the public record by elected officials, staff, and public commenters. Transcript accuracy may vary; view the original recording for reference.