Council - Regular Meeting

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It is working?

I heard it was not going to be, so that's why.

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I guess to kind of see what opens up, right? Is Natalie going to be here?

Is Natalie going to be here?

Okay, is she going to be online or not?

No, I guess she's not going to be here.

Okay, are we ready to roll?

Five o'clock. Five o'clock.

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I keep thinking it's a weapon or something, right?

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We'll see. I haven't been feeling well for about four days, and I wimp when I don't feel well, because I never get sick, so I have some kind of cold or something going on. I'm waiting for Char, then we'll start.

All the different people you're interfacing with?

Probably grandkids. Whoops. Is this supposed to be somewhere? No? Okay. All right, can you hear me out there? We have a new sound system, so I figured the reason they got it, they can shut me off whenever they want to, but we'll see what's going on here. Welcome. September, can you believe it? We're already this far in the year, but beautiful days out there. We're lucky to be in Napa, Idaho. We're going to start with the most important. It's not very long, thank goodness, but it's wonderful. and it's meaningful, and that's in God we trust. And we're going to have prayer here by Pastor Dustin Yonkovich. So if you want to come up, and he's with the Rock Church of the Christian Missionary Alliance. So, Pastor, if you will pray and say whatever words you want to, and then we're going to pledge allegiance, okay? Mike, hang on just a minute. Mike, is it on? Just had to press a button.

Okay. I hear it. Yeah. That's really tricky. You got one button I got to push. Father, we thank you for this evening. Jesus, I thank you for these men and women, Lord, who have faithfully served our community, God. Their service, God, their work for you. Lord, we just pray that you bless it and be fruitful. God, I pray, Lord, for those that are in the audience. I thank you so much for what they do for our city, God. Obviously, they're here because they care about the way our city is being run, what's going on, the stuff that's happening. Lord, would you be with them? And I pray that you'd encourage each of them as well, God, just to be men and women, Lord, who would know you and would follow you, God, that would be a benefit and a light into our community. Lord, I pray that you would please guide the decisions here tonight. Father, we do ask for your clarity. Jesus, I know these men and women make big decisions, decisions that affect people that they don't necessarily rub shoulders with every day, or sometimes that they do. Lord, would you give them wisdom? Would you help them to see the issues clearly? Would you help them to know and understand the crucial pieces of information that they need to make good and wise decisions? And Lord, with that knowledge, I pray that you would also give them the wisdom and clarity, Father, to do the right thing. Jesus, I pray for unity among them. I pray that you would help them to hold to their positions passionately, Lord, but at the same time be able to leave this table this evening and walk out as friends. Jesus, we thank you for this community. God, again, we thank you for a city council that honors you, that honors prayer, and invites people to come in and come before you as we start the meeting this evening. Jesus, we ask all these things in Jesus' name. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you, Pastor. Blessings on you and your congregation.

I assume I need to push the button.

All right, we're ready to start with some business here. So we'll start with Roe Call, Madam Clerk.

Scog. Present. Angola bills present Reynolds here Rodriguez Griffin here five present one absent Okay, we're gonna Change it up.

Just a little bit because we are PNZ director Rodney you're right there He needs to be at another meeting here shortly. So I told him he could go first as far as Giving us communications regarding playing and zoning Thank You mayor Rodney Ashby planning and zoning director

So just quickly subdivision final plat was approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission and then of course it's on your agenda for tonight for Karcher Road and North Middleton Road southwest of that intersection for an assisted living facility Again, that's on your consent agenda and then public hearings we had annexation and zoning to RS4 And a conditional use permit for duplexes in the single-family residential zoning. And then subdivision preliminary plat and planned unit development for south side. I am... It's basically a duplex development. It has 19 residential lots, six single-family detached, and 13 two-unit duplexes. That was recommended for approval, and that will be on your agenda on the 21st of September. I don't know if I gave you the location of that. That's southwest of Amity and Southside Boulevard. The next one is annexation and zoning to IL for some industrial buildings. One is a manufacturing building and the other one is a flex space for now for future construction of those buildings. And this is southeast of East Victory Road and North Happy Valley Road. And that was recommended for approval. And that will come before you on the 5th of October. Next one is a conditional use permit for non-commercial kennel license in an RS-6 zone and that was for Savannah Sloan. Original concept was for seven dogs and that was denied by the commission. The next one Or excuse me, I'm sorry, I read that wrong. Four in favor and two opposed. And so it was approved with some conditions. And then annexation and zoning to RS4 and BC zoning. For a master plan community that's on Smith Avenue and Lone Star Road, southeast of Smith Avenue and Midway Road, for Lone Star 110 LLC. And this is, again, a mixed-use development with single-family residential, multifamily residential, and commercial. And that was recommended for approval.

all all in favor and then finally that will come before you on the 19th of October that's all I have hey you have a good rest of the evening I'm sure you're disappointed you can't stay for the oh okay Mari you're here right all right come on up young lady So we're gonna read three proclamations. I was gonna have another proclamation, but we're gonna wait until October. Ron Herrmann, one of our passionate citizens here for 35 years in the city of Nampa, passed away a week and a half ago, but we'll recognize him here in October when his family can be here. So I'm gonna read the proclamation, and then any words that you have to say, and then we'll get a photo opportunity for you, okay. Okay, and this is, by the way, Hispanic Heritage Month. And Mari is representing our wonderful citizens here in the city of Nampa in Hispanic culture. So this is by myself, whereas the city of Nampa proudly recognizes the rich cultural heritage and lasting contributions of Hispanic Americans, whose diverse backgrounds, traditions, and experiences have strengthened our city, state and nation for generations. And whereas Hispanic Americans have enriched our communities through their leadership, entrepreneurship, public service, military service, education, innovation, agriculture, arts, and countless other contributions that have helped shape the strength, prosperity, and character of our nation. And whereas National Hispanic Heritage Month provides an opportunity to recognize the rich histories, cultures, traditions, and achievements of Hispanic Americans while celebrating the enduring contributions they continue to make to our communities and our nation. And whereas, in the City of Nampa, Hispanic residents, families, businesses, educators, artists, entrepreneurs, and community leaders play a vital role in advancing economic opportunity, educational achievement, civic engagement, and cultural enrichment, while community institutions such as the Idaho Hispanic Community Center bring people together to celebrate culture, access resources, strengthen families, and create opportunities for future generations. Now, therefore, I, Mayor Daryl Bruner, do hereby proclaim September 15th through October 15th, 2026 in the City of Nampa Hispanic Heritage Month and encourage all residents to celebrate the rich history, cultures, and contributions of Hispanic Americans, recognize the important role they continue to play in the life of our community, and participate in activities that promote understanding, appreciation, and unity throughout this month. Thanks, Mari.

Thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you, Mayor Bruner, and thank you, City Council, for this important recognition. You pretty much said it all. I don't have much left to say, but I do want to invite you guys to come celebrate with us on Sunday. We have a Hispanic Heritage Month celebration at the Idaho Hispanic Community Center, so I would love to see you guys there. We are proud of the Idaho Hispanic Foundation to carry on the legacy of the Idaho Hispanic Community Center. It truly is a place where people can come, not just get resources, but also gain the knowledge that they need to create these opportunities and to truly invest in NAMPA, those business skills and workforce skills that they may have not received before, but they can really, really help enrich our community. So we are very proud to be able to offer those services through the Idaho Hispanic Community Center. Thanks to you guys as well for those opportunities. And yes, we have several of our ambassadors, our board members here that are all here because they also continue to invest in Nampa and in our community.

All right, let's have them stand. Can we see who's all out there today? Okay. Thank you all for your service.

Yes, so thank you so much for that recognition and for continuing to celebrate and creating a space where we can share our culture and traditions with everyone in the Nampa community. Thank you.

And we have, I'm going to give this to you, and then you're going to have a, yeah, board, please come up. Thank you so much. Okay, I like to just duck out of here, but they don't let me, so here we go.

Okay, here we go.

Okay, we're ready for our second proclamation. And this is a proclamation for Suicide Prevention and Awareness Month. So a lot of things happening. Of course, this is a sad one, but thank goodness we have people working in this area. So Kayden, are you here? Okay, if you'd come on up. Is Jean out of town or is she here also? Okay, well, we'll let her take a break every once in a while. Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and read this and then we'll kind of go through the same procedure. Okay, thanks for being here. All right. Whereas we strive to be a safe and healthy community where people prosper and have shared value for the well-being of all residents. And whereas mental health challenges and crisis affect individuals of every age and background throughout our community, where the state has the sixth highest suicide rate in the nation. That's sad. Suicide is the second leading cause of death among individuals ages 15 to 44. and veterans account for 17% of all suicide deaths. And whereas suicide impacts not only individuals, but also families, friends, coworkers, schools, and the broader community, underscoring the need for both individual and collective action to promote mental wellness, reduce stigma, encourage help-seeking behavior, and connect people with resources and support. And whereas strong partnerships among cities, law enforcement, first responders, schools, faith communities, healthcare providers, community organizations, businesses, and residents help foster hope, connection, belonging, and a shared commitment to supporting one another. And whereas communities that prioritize mental health and reinforce the message that every person has the power to raise awareness, recognize warning signs, support prevention efforts, and offer help play a vital role in making a difference and possibly saving a life. Now, therefore, I, Daryl Bruner, Mayor of the City of Nampa, do hereby proclaim September 2026 in the City of Nampa as Suicide Awareness and Prevention Month. Thank you, Kayden.

Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Council, for recognizing Suicide Awareness and Prevention Month for the month of September. We're really proud to collaborate with the city to see kids succeed in the Region 3 Suicide Prevention Coalition and our many, many incredible partners throughout the city to reinforce the message that we all have the power and the capability to look out for our families, our friends, colleagues, and our neighbors. advance suicide prevention activities across the city and also connect and empower ourselves and our neighbors to to Be connected with our local support resources that advance mental well-being and prevent suicide I think unfortunately a lot of us are affected by suicide in one way or another so thank you very much You get to get your photo taken also Here's the proclamation, thanks for being here

Where are we here? Okay. Okay. Counsel, you're getting your exercise today. Good. Okay, we have one more to go. Margie, are you here? Marty is? Okay, that's good. Okay, you're gonna have to show me what your shirt says here.

Recovery.

Okay.

Okay. Okay, this is regarding our National Recovery Month. And Marty, I will read this and then again, we'll do what we've done the last two times here. Thank you. National Recovery Month is a national observance held every September to promote and support evidence-based treatment and recovery practices, celebrate the strength of individuals in recovery, and honor the dedication of service providers and community partners who make recovery possible. Behavioral health is essential to overall health, prevention works, treatment is effective, and people do recover. And whereas the city of Nampa recognizes that mental health and substance use challenges affect individuals, families, workplaces, and neighborhoods, and that recovery strengthens our entire community. And whereas Southwest Idaho Recovery Community Center, that's the SIRCC, serves as a vital local resource by offering peer support, recovery programming, and advocacy to individuals and families striving toward lasting recovery, and whereas it is both fitting and proper to recognize September as a time for raising public awareness, strengthening partnerships, and celebrating recovery in all its forms, and to encourage all citizens to engage in supportive events, programs, and activities that foster healing and well-being, and whereas SIRCC, in collaboration with local leaders, service providers, and residents, works tirelessly to create a recovery-friendly community where hope is restored, stigma is reduced, and lives are rebuilt. Therefore, I, Darrell Bruner, Mayor of the City of Napa, Idaho, do hereby proclaim September 2026 in the City of Napa as National Recovery Month. I also call upon all residents to join SIRCC and our community partners in supporting individuals and families on their recovery journey. and to help make Napa a place where everyone has the opportunity to thrive in health and wellness. Thanks, Marty.

Thank you, Mayor and Councilman and woman. Thank you so much for making this Recovery Month. This is a national event, so it's not something we take lightly. Last year at our rally, we had 94 vendors and over 2,000 people attended. We're hoping, with the eight other events going on that day, that we can still get the participation. Our proudest thing that we do is we help families. We've reunified cases with CPS. We have a family here that we've helped graciously, and he is our ambassador, and his name is Bryce.

He's here? Yeah. Okay. Bryce, you get your photo taken, too, in a little bit here.

Yeah. And I just want to thank you for your support as a council and for the entire city of Nampa. We have a good recovery community in place in Canyon County. We just have to start collaborating and working together and not be in competition with each other because Lord knows there's enough addicts and alcoholics and chronically mentally ill to go around. And so we all just want to help people. That's our goal. So thank you so much again.

Thanks, Marty.

I've got several people with shirt on.

Okay, well, Marty and Margie, any of the folks that you want up here, Bryce for sure, but anyone else you want up here, bring them up, please.

They're all coming up there. That's great. Come up over here.

How am I going to take a picture and get up there? I'll take it for you. That's awesome.

Okay.

How old are you?

Eleven. Where do you go to school?

Easter Pally Middle School.

All right. And you love school, don't you?

No. Okay.

See how I ask one too many questions? Okay.

All right.

All right. What's that? Yeah. Okay, now we're ready for our public forum, and this is a time where anyone who would like to speak on a non-agenda item for three minutes, you may come up here and give us your name and your address, and then go ahead and relay what you would like to. So do we have anyone signed up for that?

Mr. Mayor, we do. Our only speaker is Jeff Hatch.

Are you now or later, Jeff? Now? Okay.

Evening, Mayor Bruner and members of City Council. My name is Jeff Hatch, and my address is 5119 Briarcrest Drive, Napa, Idaho. And today I'd like to speak about some concerns I have about the development of the property located at what is now called Elite RV. Before I begin, I want to be clear that Understand there's a pending request for reconsideration Concerning this property and I'm not here to provide testimony or evidence regarding that request I'm not asking City Council to take action through a public forum. I Am here to talk about something that already exists independent of that process permitted development of elite property Today this property has building permits for a self-storage facility those permits Represent a development path that is available to the property owner today if circumstances remain as they are that is the project that will reluctantly be built on that property and And there's nothing inherently wrong with self-storage. It is a lawful use. It serves a need. And we are prepared to assist in the construction of that responsibly. But I think there is a larger planning question worth discussing publicly. Is self-storage the highest and best long-term contribution this property could make to this community? from my perspective as an architect and someone who works on development throughout the treasure Valley, I don't know it is this property has an opportunity to be something much more significant. Its location creates the potential for a vibrant industrial and employment area with meaningful connectivity to Napa's municipal airport. An area capable of supporting business, creating jobs, generating economic activity, and becoming a productive part of Napa's long-term growth, keeping Napa residents working in Napa. That is a fundamental different vision than rows of self-storage buildings. Self-storage is a relatively passive development. It generates comparatively little employment and creates limited daily economic activity. Once it is constructed, the development pattern can remain in place for decades. A well-planned industrial area could be different. It can plan for business growth. It can create employment. support aviation-related industrial area, and have thoughtful planning that strengths the relationships within this community. As an architect and developer, we ultimately have to work within the development framework that exists, and we have a project that can move forward under that framework. But before we build something that may occupy the property for the next 30, 40, 50 years, I believe it's worth asking the simple question, What do we really want with this area? What do we want it to become? Because once the opportunity is gone, it will be gone forever. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. Madam Clerk, we have anyone else signed up?

No, Mr. Mayor.

We do have, I think, back. Are you both of you or just a... Okay. Okay. So I think you, I think you know, know the, just the name and names of course and address.

Yeah. I'm Justin Reynolds with club storage condos. We, uh, came before city council last week.

Can we have your address please?

Oh, the address is four seven five one Eustick road in Napa.

We have handouts if that's okay.

Before I present them to madam clerk. Um, yeah. So we, we come before you, mayor and city council members, and thank you for your time. Basically, as an update from our last time we were here, many of you were interested in the issue that we have at the moment. A small recap is just the changes in Eustick, Starr, Owyhee, roadway development. And as we've kind of done our work, we found that it is kind of a hybrid of two possible roadways that were engineered. One being open median with a roundabout, or a... closed median with a roundabout which has changed to a closed median with turn signals and an arc cut about a mile and a half down the road. These issues that we have are having a signalized intersection where our facility provides storage for motorhomes with possible toll vehicles, semi trucks, long haul trailers, um, trucks and boats, that type of thing. And also, um, small business owners that also store their equipment there and typically come in and grab things and move on. Um, and so having no left turn either onto you stick or from you stick causes a very large hardship for us. Um, the, um, Possible solutions that we've been given is drive one and a half miles down the road, turn in our R-cut, which is only 45 feet long, which does not necessarily provide enough room for a semi-truck or RV with a tow vehicle, or four miles going across Oahe High School, creating more traffic for them. We've talked to ACHD and also in the middle of discussing this with Meridian and Napa Fire Departments. One of our solutions is also combining Wickstrom Plumbing, which has approximately 50, 60 trucks going and coming all day, and also Sterling Landscape, and we're In our vehicles, which is probably about 160 days. So we're talking about 600 plus trips a day that have to go through Starn Ustick Road intersection and turn around and come back through there or go four miles out of the way. So we're... Our solution is trying to improve safety, improve traffic flow, and one other concern is emergency vehicles, which the closest one to ours is east of us, which having a solid median would prevent access to there. And then there's also 920 homes going to the north of us, which has accesses to the east and west. Thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Reynolds. All right.

Mayor? Yes. I have a question for Crystal, if we could. Okay. Councilman Griffin? You can stay there if you need to, Crystal, to have access to your laptop. I, in the last week, received two emails, one from one of your customers, one from Dr. Bean, and then one from Sterling Landscaping. Is the reason that we pivoted from a roundabout in that area to a light because of a federal grant? And is that grant monies able to be allocated for a roundabout? I know this is a big, long question. I'm just curious, rather than giving them the round around we go, telling them what the future looks like for this area and what might happen to their business.

Mayor, Councilman Griffin, for the record, Crystal Craig, Director of Transportation. We did a corridor study that was published in 2022 for Viewstick Road. It roughly went from Midlands all the way to McDermott, so our county line. We analyzed both roundabouts and signals, and both of those intersections showed improved capacity at every single intersection when we put them in. We did not have our traffic management center up to date at that time. Okay. Our TMC it wasn't up and running at the time. So since then we've also included some additional analysis for Coordinating the signals and having that be a signal corridor from State Highway 16 or McDermott all the way to Franklin Boulevard and then moving west past Franklin it will go back to a roundabout corridor which matches the more rural characteristics that Caldwell's putting in. We did apply for a grant. It was a state grant, not a federal grant, so strategic initiatives. That grant included a signal and not a roundabout. So that's what was approved at the time. So that was also a factor in the decision. And then additional growth has happened since then. I don't know that any of us anticipated State Highway 16 going in quite as quickly as it did or the legislator being able to find the money for it as quickly and have it all open up. So additional analysis also contributed to that. But yes, funding was one of the contributing factors.

In regard to the curb that is stopping direct access into the consolidated driveway, is this an ITD pour that put the separator or the curbing there, the barrier there? Was that City of Nampa or ITD?

Um, so clarifying the centerline median does not stop direct access. It restricts left outs and left ends, but it's still considered an ax. They still have right in and right out as well as facilitated U-turns at those are cuts and at our signals. Both of those were designed for, it's called the WB 67 for a tractor trailer to be able to make a facilitated U-turn right there. Um, both roundabout option and the signal option in the corridor study showed median, uh,

In in both of those scenarios so regardless of the intersection treatment there would have been medians recommended and then just very directly because it's their ask Our proposed solution is relatively straightforward allow the curb to be cut to provide direct access to the Consolidated driveway until future development to the north creates additional signalized access opportunities Is that possible?

I would have to short answer or longer answer. I'd have to coordinate with ACHD. We don't own the north half of that road, so I don't know what the development is. My engineering input is I do not recommend a curb cut in this location because the potential for increased accidents, especially with longer turning vehicles and the proximity to the signal.

Thank you. And I just bring them up so they can get some direction.

No, I appreciate that. Normally we don't take questions and responses, though, during this time. But that's Councilman Griffin. Good points. Okay. Okay, Council, any proposed amendments to the agenda? Yes, Mayor. Okay. Yes, Councilman Griffin.

If we could pull off 1-6D, please.

Go ahead and read what that is since I'm slow in my page turning. It's the Motorola contract, Mr. Mayor. You want that on the agenda? Please. Anyone else want something moved before we take a motion on this? I'm not hearing any, so is your motion? That's your motion. Do we have a second?

I'll second that.

Okay, all in favor? Aye. Okay, so we will move 160 then to the agenda. Madam Clerk, where would we hear that?

Mr. Mayor, we will first do a vote on the consent agenda, and then we'll hear item 160.

Okay, you just remind me when that comes up, okay? All right, so as far as otherwise on the consent agenda, do we have a motion to accept that?

So moved.

All in favor? Aye. I think we're ready to roll here, folks. Okay, we're going to have staff communications.

It'll be 1-6. 1-6?

1-6-D. Okay.

Okay.

Okay, so we're going to go ahead and do 1-6-D first, okay? So action item authorized mayor to sign Motorola Solutions Customer Agreement, a master service agreement with Motorola Solutions, Inc. for the citywide use of Motorola goods and services, approved by city attorney, Preston Rutter, approved by director of procurement, Rick Kennedy, and our chief of staff, looks like Clay Long, will be presenting on this.

Thank you, Mayor and Council Clay Long, Chief of Staff. Maybe just for context of how we got to this. So currently, the city has Motorola product for our in-building security stuff. We also have contracts with them for the police department on different things. Uh, their preference as we continued forward with what's on the council agenda with five, six is that we have one master service agreement. And then as items come forward, those are, those are handled separately with additional, what I would almost consider task orders, if you will, that would come back for council. But this takes two independent contracts right now that the city holds and the PD holds and puts one master service agreement. And then those other things would fall underneath them.

Thank you mayor for some questions if I could.

And we also have Procurement Director Rick Kennedy here, too, if there's any.

Thank you. There's really only three sections that came up for me when I was looking through this that I wanted to ask regarding. On the main customer agreement contract, 11.4, it was talking about basically Motorola having the ability to take the data and if they anonymize it or take the identifiers out of it, they can then use that data. How do they anticipate or what's their plan on using the data after they make their improvements to it?

Do we need police MPD or Preston? Yeah, I turn it to Preston. Okay, Ligo will respond.

Yeah, Mayor, if it's all right. Also, for police, if you want to weigh in as well on this, this is an arm's length negotiation, and so Motorola is... As a large customer, we do a lot of work with them. Putting this in place, this term you're reading here is not uncommon for a larger service as a software provider. Obviously, I think you're looking here at 11.4, correct? On the main agreement. Okay. And what that sentence is saying here, I'm just pulling it up here with you. It's on the second page, top line.

Yeah.

So the data, the customer data and service data, they are exclusive property of Motorola, and the right title and interest in two such fixes, modifications, or improvements will vest solely in Motorola. My understanding of that is when they do services for us specific to a task, they retain that for the life of this project. If there are concerns or questions about it being released, we have other protections in here. For example, if there's a public records request, Motorola can't come in and say you're blocked from sharing that. We would have to share that. And so, yeah, that language you see in here is not uncommon. It would be my comment to that. Okay. If there's a specific point, we can dive in more or come back another time with more answers.

I'm just curious if we can strike it from the agreement so that Motorola does not retain that data rather than the city. If the city's contracting that, we retain that data unless there's a reason that we aren't able to house or retain that in our own storage. I can understand that. But any city or user data within the city, I would hope stays within the city and not corporate Motorola.

Mayor, Councilman Griffin, Don Peck, Lieutenant Nampa Police. One of the issues rests in a lot of the data is not housed on premises. It is housed in the cloud. And so, therefore, some of that data is going to be in their instance because of the cloud storage.

And then I'll leave you up here. On addendum A, there were two sections, 2.2 and 10. It did a really good job of listing all the definitions except one, anonymized customer data. It doesn't talk about that, but it says that if it anonymizes data, they then retain that data in perpetuity or at least beyond the 90 days. I don't know what that process means. It doesn't have a definition of is it taking all of our data, anonymizing it, and then creating its own workaround to use that data for third parties or anybody else.

Mayor, Councilman Griffin, I am not 100% certain on that one.

I just bring them up because that's a very quick glance through of obviously this has been a hot topic and it will continue to be for the time that we have these systems in place. I think data is the biggest concern for my constituents and local legislators reaching out to me for opinions on it. I think the data, if we're able to retain or store as much of that as possible within our own encrypted cloud service rather than utilizing their data storage, I would like to see that in these agreements moving forward rather than having them retain it. And if we need to expense that, it might be worth building out that infrastructure to house that data.

If I may, I don't know if I see Butch Shireman in here from IT. Let's see. I know we do have limitations on some storage ability. I can't speak for him, though.

And Mayor, Councilman Griffin, to that end, a lot of these systems won't work in an on-premises solution. Most of these systems are built in a cloud instance, and so you can't necessarily bring them in internal. They're not built that way.

And I'm not saying that we have our own data center that we put at the PD, maybe even just a cloud system that we purchase, we subscribe to, that necessarily then it's owned by Apple or Google or whoever else. Maybe it is only Motorola is the only solution. But having that data, especially 10, I do want some more clarification on that very first line on data. Addendum A, Section 10, data retention and deletion, except for anonymized customer data. There's no other definition that tells us what that means. So are they anonymizing everything and keeping everything? Are they just deleting everything and it's there as a fail-safe? I just don't know.

It's a defined term.

Was it in another section other than the addendum?

Yeah, so the customer data is also defined as a DPA or data processing addendum.

And I saw that.

That's what's in A.

It was more so the anonymized.

Yeah.

What's the process in anonymization?

Yeah, for that specific item... It would probably require Motorola coming back to us to elaborate on that a little further, bearing in mind that every time we do have a service or a product coming for the city, There's going to this is a boilerplate template. Any addendums we want to make can be made at that time. And so you're going to negotiate your scope, any specific provisions that apply to that unique type of service. This is more of a general boilerplate. And then we would negotiate and review specific subset terms to it at that time. If it makes sense for the city, its interests or policy, we could include in their revisions that what was. previously in the boilerplate is going to be amended in this instance. And that's something we can certainly do with anything moving forward. So it'll be touched on every single time.

Thank you. So in terms of a dispute, if we have that language in a later contract saying that we want to strike the first sentence of 10A of the addendum that would be allowable. This isn't the general governing document. Anything thereafter can strike this. Mayor, if I may.

Yeah, what you propose is totally fair game. This is a base template. It may not fit every situation perfectly, or there may be needs of the city that need to be adjusted. At that time, we could come in and make an amendment to the general governing doc specific to that service or product that we're acquiring. Thank you.

So, Councilman, do you want to make a motion on this item at this point in time?

I don't think you want my motion, but you might want somebody else.

You can make a motion, and then if it's not a second, of course, we'll move on, so it's up to you. Otherwise, since this has been moved to the main agenda, do we have a motion on this action item? I move that we approve it. Do we have a second? Second. Any further discussion? If not, Madam Clerk, roll call, please.

Fog. Rodriguez yes Griffin Reynolds yes bills. Yes motion carries.

Okay. Thank you So madam clerk are we now ready for communications? Okay, so we're gonna go with a Public work Tom points you are up next. I guess it's public to my sadness This gentleman is gonna be leaving us here at the end of April and And as I've told many of you, and before I took this appointment, I was promised that no one would leave before I was gone. So anyway, but you've been a blessing to us, and you will be for several months to come. But go ahead.

Yes, Mayor. Thank you. You have to put up with me for eight more months. So I'm Tom Point, Senior Public Works Director. I want to talk about deferred maintenance, but I want to also give you a quick update about the registration fee. We did get the Canyon County Commissioners to put it on the ballot on November 3rd. It'll be there. We're still working with the 13 agencies to have an agreeable split on how to split the $4.4 million that it will generate if it passes the 50% plus one. We'll be working on that tomorrow. So we're getting very close and and we got to two months to do education on this this campaign but this that money will be focused on what we're just talk about today deferred maintenance but particularly on failed payments and we need to have a payment management program so all this is in your packet I'll go through fairly quickly here so back in the budget meetings in July there was a request from council to put together a deferred maintenance task force we've done that we've got two members of council transportation director water resource director myself chief of staff risk management and finance there We've met twice already, and we're going to have some ongoing monthly meetings to continue on these discussions. We're also working on an RFQ on the solution on this deferred maintenance.

Just explain to the folks what an RFQ is, please.

Yeah, request for qualifications. So we'll go out and ask interested vendors that would want to do a help design build type projects on this solution, and they would give us the qualifications, and then we can shortlist it to a request for proposal after that. So there's a step process there. Thank you, Mayor, for asking that question. So in your report, one of the questions that the council asked in the past six months is how much deferred maintenance do you have? We have $600 million of projects in deferred maintenance between transportation and water.

You might repeat that one more time.

$600 million. Yeah, and these are either failed projects or imminent failure projects in the next five years. Infrastructure is very expensive, so it just adds up very quickly. So even after that... Excuse me, Tom. Yes.

I'm jumping in because that's not the building side. That's correct. That doesn't include building deferred maintenance.

Okay, so you want to explain to the public here a little more on that, Council President?

Well, building, that's above ground. And we had that study performed and delivered to us here two months ago. And it shows 100 million deficit, 20 million acute. So there's reasons why we need to be looking at our future forward.

Thank you. So to put it in perspective, our payment condition for the city and the entire city is about 60, low 60%. So you go across 80 counties, they're at 85%. ITD is at 85%. We've got a lot of work to do there. And then we've got a large older city with a lot of older pipes, so that's another expense. Okay. So after we get done with the $600 million of work, we still have an ongoing of $55 million a year that we need to fund new projects that are becoming deteriorated. So anyway, that's there's a lot of work and then we're also limited on how many people that we can do do this work. So we talked to the public works team and we thought that the first couple phases of this 36 million would would make sense. We don't have 36 million today. We talk later to you about bonding opportunities maybe in May, but we talked to Doug Racine in finance, and he was able to come up with some one-time money of $5 million for us to at least get this up and running on the process. Also, we decided that the design build would be a good fit because that gives us some flexibility on choosing the contractor that we want to do the building. It's not just a little bid at this point, so that would seem to make a lot of sense to the committee. Also crystal and john and the group in transportation they have 118 projects they' re managing with 12 people today and that' s a pretty normal workload for us that' s a lot. Bringing on another program would be challenging for them to be able to keep up. The third party design builder we would report to public works but it would be a separate from their groups and We but we still need some staff that's called out in this report To do some basic things that the design builder would not do so and that's the green boxes on the work chart on the very back so that would be a contract admin to help with all the new contracts we want to keep the contracting in-house and then a couple of new project managers in John's group so if this sounds appealing to council we can come back and do a budget amendment to add these and ask to add these positions in and then working with the mayor's office we also repurposed the facilities Managers into to go to Public Works specifically for parks projects We have a lot of park projects that we do project management for and they get grants for and we help them get grants that that would help distribute If we add those folks in will be instead of 12 Project or instead of 10 project managers will have 12 which is getting a little bit better on the count for that 118 projects that we deliver a year Let's see. What else am I missing? So the project list is in there as an exhibit. You can look at all 118 projects, which adds up to $110 million. The project that the team chose is West Roosevelt and East Roosevelt, so you have a diagram of that. There's some very poor pavement conditions in this area. We could spend the $5 million very easily on these segments. And what else am I missing? Let's see. So, like I said, we have a lot more larger need than just the $5 million today, but we do have the $5 million that Doug can provide us, gets the program up and running. So that's phase one. We show that we can do this and it works successfully, then we can develop ways to generate the other funding, come back with the phase two of the project to get up to the $36 million on the first phase. So it's kind of a stepped approach, but there's a... There's a lot to think about on this one. So I just wanted to bring that forward for comments, see if this feels like what you asked for during the workshop, and just open it up for questions.

Council? Mayor? Just curious if this was in alignment with President Bills' hot shot dream that he had potentially had for all these public works projects moving forward. if that's going in the direction of what that was anticipated to be?

Well, it's plan B from plan A not coming together. So, you know, I haven't given up on plan A, but unfortunately, this is closer or a secondary option. Okay. Got to move forward.

So I just didn't know if anything else was in the works or if this was the option to go with. So thank you. Not that I can share from the bench.

Thanks. Thank you.

Any other questions for Tom?

The one thing I would like to bring up is, um, our finance director, uh, council, you may recall provided information here a couple of weeks ago, uh, At a session with legislature, representatives of local area for Nampa. And that process showed that had a couple of the bills in the legislature not been punitive towards cities. Yes, it would have come out of taxpayer money, but it would also come out of commercial and industrial a great deal. The city of Nampa would have had 26 million. And that would go a long ways towards our deficit. So we're not the only one. Post Falls put out a letter, an information, experiencing a real difficulty as well. I think other cities are. So we have to continue to dial in. And Tom, appreciate the update as to how we're going to handle the infrastructure. What we cannot afford is another blow-up like a Garrity. So.

Okay. Thanks, Tom. Thank you. Chief of Staff Clay, you're coming up to introduce our new attorney.

I think Preston and I are going to tag team it, but we're excited. I know Preston's probably the most excited one. But for counsel, just as a recap, we brought Preston on and moved legal to in-house about a year and a half ago-ish. Last fall, we posted a staff attorney position utilizing our contract dollars to continue moving that in-house position. We had a failed search the first time. We posted again. I don't think any of the first candidates are here, so I think we got a better candidate the second time anyway. But, yeah, I'll turn it to Preston to do the actual introduction.

Yeah, and thank you, Clay, and thank you, Mayor's Office. Hiring a municipal attorney is not an easy task. It is a subset of a subset of skills. They are not prolific. They're not ambulance chasers. All apologies to those who have relatives who do that. They're a dime a dozen. No, I say that with respect, but it's not common to find a municipally trained attorney. And Blair fits that bill. Just by way of introduction, he'll have an opportunity to be up here to introduce himself. But it's only fitting that we give, you know, butter him up a little bit. He comes with 17 years of local government experience. We must have a knack here in Nampa for hiring JD MPAs. And what I mean by that is somebody with a law degree, but also a master's in public administration, specifically city management. And for those listening and watching, you think of businesses as being large corporations. This is a $300 million municipal corporation with 800 employees and 35 departments. You want to have people who are well-trained in that field to know how to operate it. Blair comes with that experience. He can speak more to it from a budget economic development standpoint. So he really understands the big picture, the rhythm, the life cycles of issues that you see in a large municipal organization. And without further ado, Blair, do you want to come up to the podium? Maybe the longest walk of your life, but we're happy to have him.

Yeah, no, I'll be for sure. Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm happy to be here, excited, just a little bit about myself. I was born and raised in Maryland, outside of Washington, D.C., and then migrated west, went to school in Utah, spent a lot of time in Arizona as well, followed by Florida, followed by Oregon. Most of my wife's family are all in this area, and so our migration here has been to join them as well as to get away from Oregon. Sweet Home is awfully nice. Sweet Home is a great place. I wish the rest of Oregon was like Sweet Home. If it was, I probably would have had a hard time leaving, but unfortunately, you can't control the rest of the state. So, thank you, Preston, for that introduction. Yes, I have a Master's of Public Administration and a law degree from BYU, and I've spent the last I guess 17 years, it's been a while, hasn't it? Yeah. As a budget analyst first, and then I've also served as a community and economic development director and a city manager and city attorney. So happy to be here, excited to dive in. I've enjoyed the work so far and excited to see even more. And I'm happy to take... Any questions or if there's anything else you want to know about me?

I'm happy to share. We welcome you, and we appreciate you here. The only downside is I've had to cut back on my attorney jokes.

You know, I appreciate those jokes as well.

Any questions for Blair? No, you want to get back at all to our attorney for his client?

Okay.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. It's great having you, and you don't need to stay if you don't desire to. I'll stick around. It is time for our public hearings, but I'm going to do a couple of action items here before that, because I do not want folks to have to stay here until We're not planning on being here until midnight, but it may be a touch later than what we normally are here. So we're gonna move on, number one. First one is recognizing Mr. Buchholz. And so if you can come up, sir. And this is an action item, 5-1, confirm appointment of Justin Buchholz to the Building and Fire Code Board of Appeals for a two-year term expiring on September 8th, 2028. Move to approve. Second. Okay. Roll call, please.

Gog. Yes. Bills.

Absolutely.

Rodriguez. Yes. Griffin. Yes. Reynolds. Yes. All in favor, motion carries.

Boy, that's pretty resounding action. Yeah, that's really nice of you guys. I told you I'd give you two minutes. Of course, you have your dear wife here. Your daughter was here, but okay.

Yeah, I think she's on the back bench sleeping right now.

Amy was going to take a picture, so okay.

Perfect. Well, you know, I know how you were already running behind, so I'll keep it short. Sebastian, you're the first one to reach out to me. Ask me if I get on a board, so thank you, Councilman. And since then, I've gained the support. of all of you, and I really appreciate it. I will take this job humbly. I know it's a small board, but all boards count. So thank you guys, and let's move on.

Hey, do you want to turn with your wife for a picture? Why don't you come up with him, and you're going to send it to a dear aunt that's not doing well back east, right? Okay. No, we'll just stay seated. Okay. Thank you for your willingness to serve. Okay, we're also, so Mr. Hatch does not have to be here too late. We're going to go ahead and move on to 5.2, please. And that is action item, request for reconsideration of comprehensive plan map amendment from industrial to commercial for a 2.6 acre portion, annexation and zoning to IL, which is light industrial zoning for 15 acres, and BC, which is community business zoning, zoning for 2.6 acres and a development agreement for a future subdivision ad addressed as 4300 east victory road and zero north picard lane parcels do madam clerk do i need to read all these numbers thank you for for relieving me of that and i think this is represented for jeff hatch with hatch design architecture representing mwss nampa llc and uh so we need a motion

Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to grant the reconsideration.

Second. Discussion, please.

I think it's appropriate. The night that we heard this, there seemed to be some ambiguity and other information. It was unclear, I believe. And... It would be well to give the applicant, with all the work that's been done, the opportunity to bring back the information and clarifying. And obviously, they're looking for counsel to change an affirmative vote. But they at least need the opportunity to present information that maybe wasn't clarified at the public hearing time. That may have a factor for council members.

Any other discussion?

Mr. Mayor?

Yes, sir.

I just want to say I feel like this applicant has done their due diligence, and we need to listen to this with the additional information that they will bring back to us, I'm sure, based off of what our comments were on the last hearing. Okay, roll call, please.

Scogg? Yes. Rodriguez? No. Griffin?

Yes.

Reynolds? Yes. Bills?

Yes.

Motion carries.

And do we have a date assigned or will that be in future consideration?

What I'm hearing from staff, Mayor, is they'll reapply and they'll be assigned a date at that time, notified and be back here.

All right. Thank you very, very much. We'll move on to public hearings. I believe we have four. Yes.

If we could, I do. Someone here for 5-3, which should be relatively short.

Okay, we will thank you, Daniel, for that, and we will take that under consideration. Okay, here we go. 5-3, action item. Authorize mayor to sign curb, gutter, and sidewalk deferral agreement for 16763 Madison Road. And Daniel, of course, will introduce himself. Mr. Mayor, so moved.

Second.

Discussion?

I just need some clarification. The issue overall, based off of the letter, is because there is no connectivity, they want to defer until the connectivity gets there and then they will build out?

There is, Mayor, Councilman Griffin, there is existing sidewalk to the south of them. The codes have changed between when other properties have developed around them and the current code that did not require full build out of the roadway on those other locations. And so they are requesting a deferral. based on the conditions that they stated, the difference in property size and those types of things. They did indicate that if the council desired that they would be willing to put in the sidewalk without the curb gutter and pavement widening sections, if that is more palatable, though they did request deferral of all improvements. And that's indefinitely correct? I didn't see a date certain. So those deferral agreements are until they are called in by the city. So typically what we would look at is if the property to the north of them were to develop, we would call that in for those improvements at that time. Or if the city were to do a project that we're putting all of those improvements in, we would call that deferral in and have them pay for the improvements in front of their property.

Would it be your opinion that we should get at least the sidewalk done and then wait for the ladder portions or should we just wait for all of them? I think we're setting a precedent on potentially deferring this. I'm sharing my screen.

Can we get it switched to show that? In teams. Okay. All right. So I would say in this situation, it's unlikely that there are pedestrians along that section of Madison because in any kind of volume because of the industrial. So ultimately that would be, I don't know that I would have strong feelings one way or the other. Thank you.

Any other, we have, we have a motion in a second. Madam clerk. Okay. Roll call please.

Yes Rodriguez yes Griffin yes bills yes Reynolds all in favor motion carries mr. mayor yes sorry approved by one question regarding it you can sit there Daniel does that follow the title or will that follow the property owner when it's called due by the city

The agreement is recorded and it goes against the property, so whoever the property owner is at the time that we do that, call that in.

Thank you.

Mayor.

Yes, Councilman Rodriguez.

Could we do 5-4 quickly?

We have 10. Are we going to go all the way through it?

I know people are here just for that.

I appreciate that. So I make a motion to approve 5-4. Seconds.

Okay, discussion.

Just point of order.

I will read it. I will read it. Thank you. Okay. But thanks for being so fast. I appreciate that. 5-4, action item, allocate 2027 opioid funds to the sub-recipients as follows. Breaking Chains Academy, $10,000.00. Nampa Family Justice Center, $39,339. Southwest Idaho Recovery Community Center, $40,000. Project Hope Helps, $15,000. Boys and Girls Club of Nampa, $10,000 for a total allocation of $114,339. And this was partially approved in the FY27 budget, pending approval in the FY27 budget amendment for a remainder amount. So does anybody need Chris to come up? Okay, so we have a motion and a second. Those still ride, Madam Clerk, or do we need to redo?

Can I have that repeat?

Yes, we'll do a repeat. Motion and second on this.

So I make a motion to approve the allocation as read by the mayor. Second. Okay, roll call, please.

Scott. Yes. Rodriguez. Yes. Griffin. Yes. Reynolds. Yes. Mills.

Yes.

All in favor, motion carries.

Is there anyone else that we need to relieve so they don't have to sit here for a few hours, okay? Mayor, can we do five, five, no. The utility rates are really important here. We've been asked for a five-minute recess, please. So five minutes. It's now 6-10. We'll re-adjourn at 6-15, please.

Good point, but I wonder how much it gives. Yeah. I don't know how much they really have access to.

And that's the problem. I don't either. And it doesn't save your time.

It's true. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That's great. I'll just go sit down.

I would.

You were, okay. All right, but you're not.

No, I got out because that was the only thing I needed.

Oh, okay. There we go. I think we're good.

As long as P&T is able to share money.

Very binary.

I think so.

Hi, guys. How's it going? Thanks for letting me be part of your tribe. What's up, guys?

Hey, listen.

Here's the thing. The only better thing than having a tribe is having a friend. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Exactly.

That's nice.

That's good. Yeah. Oh, that's good. Can you... Yeah. It's crazy. And he grew like... And... It's... Yeah, I know. Yeah, it is. It's weird. I can't believe it.

I've never really heard of it.

I've never heard of it. All Texas hotels.

Council, one more hug and then we need to reconvene.

Those are all good letters. Come back. Get Debbie White.

Grab her while you're there.

Where'd Victor go? I still haven't seen him.

Oh well, we don't.

Thank you. Do we need our IT folks? I know they're not ours. Paul was here for a little while.

He's having fun somewhere. Are we, Daniel, we okay yet? There's no IT folks here. We don't know where they are. Okay, we'll call this session to order again.

Here he comes.

All right. Well, we still have a quorum. Okay, Will, I need you to sit down, please. Yeah, I have one, but I just. Okay. Everyone, we were ready to go here. Let's get going here. We're gonna start with our public hearings, our first one. is 6-1, action item, annexation and zoning at 0 Midway Road, parcel R3301-700000 to RA Suburban Residential Zoning District and 0 Iowa Avenue, parcel R3208-70138, I think it's a B, B-0 to RS-7 Single Family Residential Zoning District and potential development agreement. And for Brecken Land Design, Greg Davis representing Grace Bible Church of Napa, Idaho. Original concept, construction of a church on the RA zone parcel and future residential development on the RS7 parcel. So is our applicant here? Okay, thank you. And seven minutes.

All right. Good evening. My name is Becky. Address is 6661 Glenwood, Garden City, Idaho, 83714. All right. So good evening. I'm here to present applications for annexation and zoning for two parcels to help facilitate the development of Grace Bible Church. Tonight, we are asking you to approve annexation and zoning for two parcels located at Lake Lowell and Midway. Parcel A is our pathway to annexation, and Parcel B is where Grace Bible Church hopes to call home. This application requests annexation and zoning for two parcels. Parcel A, which is under separate ownership from Parcel B, is requesting an RS7 zone and currently has no plans for development. Parcel B is requesting an RA zoning to allow for the development of Grace Bible Church. Grace Bible Church plans to construct an eighty thousand four hundred and seventy nine square foot two-story building The proposed worship center will accommodate up to 1,300 seats per code 347 parking stalls are required. However The the project will initially provide 690 stalls to reduce the time needed to find parking and improve traffic flow within the site the church is also planning to provide 7.5 acres of open space and Here are the conceptual building elevations. The building has been designed with varied materials, articulated facades and changes in the building plans to reduce the visual massing. The floor plan emphasizes flexibility, community gathering and efficient use of space to serve both the church members and the surrounding community. The proposed zoning map amendment meets the city's review criteria by remaining consistent with the comprehensive plan, maintaining compatibility with surrounding residential uses, and providing community serving church campus that provides the area's suburban character through the landscaping, buffering, and open space. I would now like to present Pastor Keith Wagner, who will say a few words about the church.

Pastor Wagner.

Thank you so much, Becky. Mayor, members of the council, thanks for the opportunity to speak. I'm going to stick to my notes, which is very unlike me, but for sake of time. My name is Keith Wagner. I'm lead pastor at Grace. My address is 16702 Artis Avenue, Caldwell, Idaho, 83607. Grace Bible Church has been part of the Nampa community for 50 years. I've been here for over 20 years, and we love the city. Now, we have a challenge at Grace Bible Church. Over the last several years, we've experienced significant and sustained growth. And while we're very thankful for that, it's definitely creating some issues for us. We've simply run out of room, and that's with offering six different services, and we're still struggling to keep up. We're regularly reaching capacity, and this kills me as a pastor. In recent weeks, we've actually had to tell people we don't have any seats left. As a short-term solution, we are actually preparing an overflow service at Lone Star Middle School simply to accommodate the continued growth. And so our need for additional space is very real. But I think it's good to just note that our vision for this project is more than just building a larger church facility. Grace has always had this motto, we're not just a church in our city. We believe that we've been called to be a church for our city, and we've tried to live that out, not just on Sunday, but through the other six days of the week. We believe a church should make its community better, and our hope and desire would be that this property becomes a place that serves not only those who call Grace home, but the neighbors right there in the area, the broader Nampa community, that it would be a place for gatherings, ministry, community partnerships, opportunities, honestly, that we haven't even imagined yet. Now, here's the challenge. Development of this size, there's probably going to be some legitimate questions, questions I've even heard, whether that be traffic, and that's a concern, a concern we have. In fact, we've already contacted a traffic study engineer that's going to thoroughly evaluate the traffic impact, help us determine how we can minimize this. Obviously, we want to work with the city, comply with the traffic requirements, establish this project, but we'll continue to do what we do right now. Lone Star, we have... We have trained parking volunteers, flaggers, to help manage traffic entering and leaving the property. Then, since we presented planning zoning, some great questions have come up. We've met with neighbors, people there in the community, in our community. There's questions about some future developments shown in the plans. And what I can tell you is that we have no desire to use annexation as a way around responsible development. As future portions of this property are developed, we fully expect and plan to work with the city and meet whatever requirements apply. Now, one thing I've received questions about are the sports fields. And I just want to make something very clear. That's just an idea of what we could do with that space. While that might be a future possibility, that is not part of phase one. There's no timeline for this. If at some point recreational spaces would be developed, We obviously want them to serve our community while being designed and operated in a way that respects those around us. Ultimately, what it comes down to, we just want to be good neighbors. That's something that's been very important to us. And my hope would be, as pastor of Grace, that years from now, those who live around our church would say, I am so glad Grace Bible Church is part of this community. We love Nampa. We're invested in Nampa, and we would be grateful for the opportunity to continue serving this city from this property. Thank you so much for your consideration.

Counsel, are there any questions for Pastor or for the applicant? Thank you, Pastor. Okay, I think we're ready for staff report. Terry, you're on? Okay. Okay.

sit there I think we can you can do that if you so desire maybe just move the chair out a little ways all right well thank you mayor and City Council my name is Terry friend associate planner for the city of Nampa's planning and zoning department The properties we're reviewing tonight are at the intersection of Midway Road and Lake Lowell Avenue. Both parcels are currently under Canyon County jurisdiction. On the comprehensive plan future land use map, the large parcel on the northwest corner is designated as very low density residential, and the smaller property on the southeast corner is designated medium density residential. Much of this area is in agricultural use, and the property at the southwest corner of this intersection is a gravel pit. The five-acre parcel is surrounded on the south and west by Carriage Hill West subdivision. This slide shows the applicable regulations for annexation, which must be met for us to accept an application for annexation. And these code sections describe the anticipated development types in the RA Subdivision, sorry, RA Suburban Residential Zoning District and RS7, which is Single Family Residential Zoning District that have been requested. The schedule of land uses does confirm that a church or a religious facility is allowed use in the RA Zoning District.

We've received comments from applicable departments and agencies.

Engineering does not oppose the application. They've provided standard comments and a list of requested conditions of approval. The access to the subject property is provided by Midway and Lake Lowell. There will be required dedication of right of way on both of those street frontages. The proposed development will likely meet the threshold to require a traffic impact study. If it does, that will be required at the time of a building permit. Domestic water, sewer, and pressurized irrigation services are nearby, and the engineering department's requested conditions of approval have been listed in the proposed conditions that we'll hit later in our slides. The Boise CUNA Irrigation District holds the water rights for the property. They've requested several conditions be placed on the owner and developer to ensure that their patrons have continued use of their irrigation water. These conditions have been addressed in the proposed conditions of approval. Nampa Fire District does not oppose the application. The proposed development is approximately two miles from fire station number six with an approximate response time of five minutes. The subject property is in Highway District 4's road maintenance area, specifically Midway Road from Iowa Avenue to Orchard Avenue and Lake Lowell west of Midway are maintained by HD4. Other public streets in the area fall under the city's jurisdiction. HD4 advises that Midway Road from the north side of Iowa Avenue to the south side of Lone Star was rebuilt in the summer of 2024. And is currently in excellent conditions So they are asking that no cuts in the roadway be allowed within five years of the rebuild So any utility extensions affecting Midway Road must be bored HD for requests that grace Bible Church access come from Lake Lowell Avenue and The long range planning team has reviewed this application and found that the request meets the comprehensive plan, the future land use map, and the Southwest Nampa specific area plan where that is applicable. For the Grace Bible Church property, they indicated that the comprehensive plan vision for this area is heavily influenced by the proximity of Lake Lowell and the wildlife refuge. So as such, the design of the features and structures and the ground should complement the area and seek to emphasize those characteristics that are contained within this vision. Now on that note, In the RA zoning district, design review of structures is not a requirement. In addition to the site layout, the team does suggest, oh sorry, in review of the site layout, the long range planning team did suggest that the baseball fields be rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise to avoid conflicts between baseballs and the parking area. For the proposed five acre Residential development the team recommends that the design of those structures use a landscape mature use design and landscaping That it emulates the character of existing neighborhoods Now again note that RS zoning districts do not require design review for single-family homes. I All right, we received 17 written public comments that were detailed in your staff report and attached. And for the most part, they were in support of the application, but there were a couple of concerns that were brought forward. Concerns raised regarding existing traffic issues in the immediate area, along with potential infrastructure gaps related to new development. Additionally, there were worries about environmental impacts of these developments on the aquifer and wildlife, and as well as calls for more responsible growth management, including a halt on new subdivisions until their fiscal benefits are established. On the flip side of that coin, many of the public comments were in support. The community members expressed strong support for Grace Bible Church, highlighting its positive impacts on outreach, youth programs, and overall community well-being. There is enthusiasm for the church's expansion and the potential benefits of its annexation. which would improve the coordination with municipal services and enable the church to better serve a larger congregation while continuing its collaborative efforts with local organizations. Overall, the consensus is that the annexation will significantly strengthen families and enhance community life in Namba. And the application has met the four state code requirements for accepting the application for annexation. And here are the applicable criteria for zoning and a portion of the relevant facts for the request for zoning to RA. The proposed zoning for the property at the northwest corner of Midway is in harmony with the city's comprehensive plan. and future land use map as well as the Southwest Nampa specific area plan and its land use map. Because the proposed RA zoning district is permitted zone under the comprehensive plan land use map designation of VLDR, or very low density residential, and it establishes an area of RA, suburban residential zoning, that will be compatible with future and existing zoning in the surrounding area. A church is a use that complies with the allowed uses in an RA zone as listed in the schedule of uses and will be reasonably compatible with adjoining properties. It is in the public interest and reasonably necessary because development of these parcels will extend city services and utilities and any new construction will bring improvements to the property per city codes. Looking at the RS7 zoning district, here are some of the facts involved in that. And in conclusion, the proposed RS7 zoning district for the property on the southeast corner of Midway and Lake Lowell is in harmony with the comprehensive plan and the future land use map. because it will be compatible with future and existing zoning in the area because RS7 is a permitted zone under the medium density land use designation. The residential subdivision is a use that complies with the land use chart. for the RS zoning district and it will be reasonably compatible with adjoining properties because surrounding properties to the south and east of this one are also zoned RS7. It's in the interest of the city and reasonably necessary because development of these parcels will extend city services and utilities and any new construction will bring improvements to the property per city code. There are 12 conditions of approval that were listed in your staff report, and they are here on the next four slides. I won't read two. And this is your potential motions, and I would stand for any questions.

Council, questions? Yes, Councilman Rodriguez. Thank you. Is your mic on? No, okay.

Yes.

Delayed answer.

Dang it, how do you see that? Okay, so I'm really happy that on Sunday mornings that you can't go on Lone Star because of the traffic coming in and out of church. That is just great. But I also see that as a difficult situation for those who don't attend and who are traveling. In the proposal, will there be a turn lane, another lane that adjusts in and out into the church?

Mayor, Councilman Rodriguez, are you speaking of their existing location on Lone Star or at the new location? The new location. The traffic study has not been completed. The traffic study will analyze those... traffic patterns and what is required based on the volumes that will come from that. In the discussions we've had with the people from the church, they are very well vested in making sure that the traffic issues that we have at the Lone Star facility are not propagated through to the new facility, and we will coordinate with them and their traffic engineer to provide information per the policies and their desires, how we accomplish that and make sure that they are following the city's policies on the traffic study and what improvements are required.

Okay. Follow up mayor. Yes. So is there a possibility that that could include readjusting, read diagramming, read doing something with Lake Lowell in Iowa because of the heavy traffic?

It is likely that they will have improvements at that intersection that they will have to do identified by the traffic study, yes.

Now, one last question. Since they're close to the refuge, is there any kind of city code that says, here's the requirements in order to build near the refuge?

Thank you, Mayor and Councilman Rodriguez. There is no differentiation between city codes that are related to an area near the wildlife refuge versus not.

Okay, one last question then, Mayor. I thought the last one was your question. Well, this is it right here. Is there a code with the federally that says, since it's a federal property, of what you can and can't do close to any kind of development?

Thank you, Mayor, Councilman Rodriguez.

Go ahead and announce who you are.

I'm Christy. I'm the principal planner for the City of Nampa. There is nothing from the federal side. We do send out information when we get these types of applications. We send it to the Wildlife Refuge, and we do not get comments back from them. So we have not heard of anything that would dictate a certain type of development that would be undesirable. I'm sure if there was something, they would tell us.

Who knows? Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor.

Sure? Yes, sir. Okay. Any other questions for staff? Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Jerry. So we'll move on to public testimony about how many do we have signed up. About six. Okay. I was going to say, please don't repeat if somebody else says something, but that's not very many compared to how many we normally have. So, you know, you have three minutes. Whoever comes up to the mic, please state your name and your address and whether you're opposed, neutral, or in favor. Okay. We'll go ahead and start with the first name, please.

Mr. Mayor, first speaker is Patty Evans.

Well, nice to be number one, isn't it?

I'm number one. I'm here to read Cheryl Higley's comments into the record because she is not available. My name is Patty Evans. I live at 3616 East Rolling Green Place, and the following are Cheryl's words. Mayor and City Council, I want to begin by stating that I am supportive of Grace Bible Church and its ministry. I understand they have experienced tremendous growth and are at capacity at their current facility and need room to expand. I do, however, have a few concerns regarding this application. My first concern is the precedent that we may be setting by creating pathways to annexation that include parcels for which there are currently no development plans. We have seen this with Grace Bible Church application and also with the southwest corner of Midway and Lake Lowell, where there are no immediate plans for development. If annexation is approved before the plans are presented, the RS-7 parcel, the City Council may lose some of its discretion over conditions of that future development. It could also contribute to the same infrastructure gaps we already see with undeveloped infill properties throughout the city. My second concern involves the proposed sports courts on the west side of the church property. I would like to know whether these courts will be for the church use or available to the public, how frequently they will be used, and whether they will be lighted. If lighting is planned, what effects will the light and noise have on future residents that are already approved Lake Lowell Estates? More importantly, what effect could nighttime lighting have on birds and wildlife because of the property's proximity to the Deer Flat National Wildlife Refuge? During the February 18th, 2025 Deer Flat Ranch hearing, the Golden Eagle Audubon Society and Southwestern Idaho Birders Association reminded us that this is a refuge and is designated important bird area of global significance. Birds use this area for breeding, wintering, and as a migratory stopover. Their letter cited research stating that nighttime lighting and sky glow can disrupt bird migration, reproduction, and normal wildlife behavior. Migrating birds can also be attracted to artificial light, become disoriented, and circle illuminated areas until they are exhausted. They also suggest some very reasonable protections. Exterior lighting should be fully shielded and directed downward. Unnecessary parking lot and athletic field lighting should be turned off when not in use, particularly during spring and fall migration. And interior lighting should be turned off after the people leave for the evening. I hope Grace Bible Church will voluntarily incorporate these protections, and I would encourage the council to consider making appropriate lighting protections part of any approval in the future. I support Grace Bible Church's opportunity to grow. I simply ask that we make sure this growth protects neighboring residents, preserves the council's ability to manage future development, and recognizes the unique environmental importance of the refuge. Thank you for your community service. Cheryl Higley.

Well done. You made it by three seconds. Okay. Becky, eventually you'll be coming back up. You're taking down what questions are being asked. Appreciate it. Okay, next, Madam Clerk.

Our next speaker is Amy Bowman.

Well, wow.

I just have to say this little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine. We're talking about lights. Good evening, Mayor and Nampa City Council. My name is Amy Bowman. I reside at 1623 West Orchard Avenue in Nampa, and I would first like to thank you each for your service to our community. I know that is not a sentiment you hear a lot from this podium, so I just wanted to share my appreciation. of what you do. I am speaking in favor of the annexation before you tonight, which aligns with our comprehensive plan and is within Nampa's impact area. As you may or may not know, the history of Nampa is deeply rooted in faith. When Nampa was founded 140 years ago today, many of its founding fathers were deeply religious, and Nampa soon got the nickname New Jerusalem. Fast forward to today, the city's vision statement is that Nampa is a caring community where people live, work, play, worship, and raise our families. The annexation before you tonight which received unanimous approval from PNC is an opportunity to support those in our community who value worship and seek to worship in our hometown of Nampa. I know sometimes public hearings feel like a popularity contest. and who supports and who opposes projects. So I'm sure if you'd like, Pastor Keith could make a few phone calls and get the hundreds of people that call Grace home to fill this room and spill out into the street. The sign behind you, In God We Trust, is a reflection of our community's values and our national protection for the freedom of religion. Grace Bible Church is not only a place to gather on Sunday, it is a wellspring of life and a blessing to our community. Grace is not just a place of worship in our city, but also a place for our city. The first time I visited Grace and I saw those words for our city on the wall, it really took my breath away. Because when you work in city government, usually people are not super excited about city government. So grace is truly for our city and the people who live here. The congregation has donated thousands of dollars to a variety of nonprofits in our community. Nampa is a better place because Grace Bible Church is here. And as a fifth-generation Idahoan, I know Nampa and Idaho have grown, and we get to decide what type of growth we're going to prioritize. And I pray that Nampa will always prioritize faith in God over fear. While you get to verbalize your vote tonight, I have complete peace that it is God, truly, who makes this decision, and no weapon formed against him will stand. So thank you again for your service, and have a good evening.

And I'm never shy, but I'm going to say amen to that. Thank you. AWL, they may be all over me before I'm out of this office, but who knows. Okay, so third, please.

Our next speaker is Belinda McBurney.

Good evening, Mayor, City Council. I just want to say it's almost fall. See, I'm excited. The birds are migrating. Last night, 619,500 birds migrated through Canyon County. Isn't that miraculous?

Who counts that?

I thought that was pretty fascinating how they count that but they use radar and tracking that drones and no radar and tracking weather systems and it's a good estimate and pretty close.

So I'm giving you an extra 10 seconds. Okay.

And my name is Belinda McBurney. I reside at 11914 Iowa Avenue in Nampa. And I come before you this evening as a concerned citizen and a faithful servant of God. And I do support the church. I think the church is great. However, I do have a lot of concerns. As far as what I did see, there are proposed sports fields, there are soccer field, baseball field, amphitheater, which will result in those tremendous huge lights, a lot of lighting. And you've already heard about the sky glow and everything that Cheryl's already presented, so I'm not going to go into that. But... I do and have spoke for the refuge for some years now. I've done a lot of research, a lot of studies. Some of you have my report, some of you don't. I will leave some for you to read later. And in my heart and soul, I do believe that I am here tonight as a voice for all the wildlife and birds that cannot speak. I have lived out there for 26 years. I have seen the encroaching development. I have seen the wildlife and the birds leave. They are leaving, and they are disappearing. And we, as humans, are responsible. God commands we be good stewards over his creation, and we really, really have to think about that. And as a church, I know everybody's thinking about that. Everybody loves animals. We love our wildlife. The Deer Flat National Refuge is a jewel of the Treasure Valley. And we've got to protect it. We're moving and moving closer to it. And the wildlife are leaving. And it is impacting. And the traffic will kill deer. It will kill wildlife. It already is. So the federal, by the way, they cannot get involved in city and give their opinion. So you can write them and ask them and send them anything you want. They are not allowed to speak on the behalf of the refuge, which doesn't make any sense. As you know, the refuge was founded in 1909 by President Roosevelt. So there is so much that I have in my report that I'm going to leave with you because loss and degradation and fragmentation of important migratory bird habitat has been identified as potentially the largest individual threat to migratory birds. And I really want to point out that this is home to 39 species of wildlife and 240 species of birds. Millions use this specific migratory path every year through here as a resting stopover and home and nesting. So we really, really have to rethink our development and our encroachment out there. Last year in November, the, um, Canyon County commissioners denied the Southwest area Nampa impact plan because it was going to infringe on that wildlife refuge and take the land around it that supports all that wildlife. Thank you. Thanks for all your service. And I'm going to leave this because I did work really hard on it.

I just was sick and leave something with the clerk.

Yes, I will.

Okay. Thank you. I guess it's going over there. Okay.

Our next speaker is Debbie Bartlow.

Debbie, go ahead. You can just say you agree.

Debbie Bartlow, 3514 Juanita Way, Napa, Idaho, 83686. I was just kind of trying to see if there was people who are negative. I thought I would. say something positive. But things have been pretty fine. I just want to say we are friends and neighbors of everybody here. I mean, a whole lot of us. We have great concerns for the refuge. We don't want to cause problems. Our pastor is very cooperative, usually. And we are not the developers that want to come in from out of state and take over all the property and do all kinds of houses, and we just have one corner and a small piece. That's what our limited is, and I think that we'll be great neighbors.

Okay, thanks, Debbie, very much. Yeah, I haven't spoken to the pastor about his love for birds, but I know he has a love for cats. Okay, next, please.

Our next speaker is Tiffany Williams.

My name is Tiffany Williams. I reside at 55 South Happy Valley, Nampa 83687. Thank you, Mayor and council members for listening. Most of what I was going to say has already been said. I am in favor of this. Grace Bible is a great church and we are for our city. We are even for the birds and the migration and the animals in our city. And we want to preserve it because we know that we are to be stewards of it. So I know that our pastor will be willing to work with whatever we can reasonably to keep it that way. But we want to be a blessing to our neighbors in that area as well. We want to continue to be able to see the city thrive as we've tried to over the past many years that we've been there. Right now, we're so tight in where we are that so much energy has to go into internal reasons. And we'd like to be able to put those resources and time to the rest of our city and to be a blessing to it. So I hope you guys vote in favor of it. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Tiffany. Okay, we have Larray, is it?

Yes, our last speaker is Larray Sizer.

Anyone that wants to will be allowed to as soon as we're... Good evening, Mayor and City Council.

My name is Lorraine Sizer. I live at 12418 Revendale Court, Nampa, 83686. Not very far from the proposed site. And I do appreciate the fact that Grace Church has... their reason for being there and everyone else for being able to enjoy what they're doing. However, we have several things. Why can't these two annexations be done separately? You're putting a horse before the cart. You haven't done your traffic survey. You have no idea. One given Sunday, it might be late. Otherwise, it might be heavy. For the people that live on Midway, trying to get out of Rivendell Court, make sure you're not going at 3 in the afternoon or at 8 in the morning. The other thing too, we have fought the Cope Sand and Gravel. We lost on that appeal. We have put forth our, this is another area too that was proposed housing and Evidently it's coming back you're talking about the services of Water and sewer. However, what's that doing to our aquifer? What is that doing to the rest of these services? We don't have the infrastructure every subdivision that has been approved and built there is one way in one way out and We don't have the infrastructure of police, fire, and roads. Yes, Midway was improved in 2024, but now the other intersections, if the developer doesn't pay the impact fees, Highway 4 does not have funds to do so. So what happens then? Do you expect that they will... billed those in after the subdivision of the bill. And again did I have nothing against grace church, but that did they look at other areas. There happens to be a parcel that might not be all that great for. 1889,000 square feet on. Green. Greenhurst. Is this the only area that they looked at? So again, I don't want to say it appears that you all have made up your mind to approve this. We're still fighting Midway and Smith master-planned. That's coming up. Please give it some thought and think for all of us, not just one single individual.

Thanks, Lorraine.

Thank you.

You are next, and anyone else that would like to speak, just let us know. Margie, okay, you just need to make sure you tell us your name, address.

My name is Sheila Sartorius. I live at 12674 Wild Rose Lane. Once again, it's good to be back here. This is my second month in a row. How about that? You know, it was interesting when we had the gal point out, in God we trust above you. There's also another saying to that was, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. There's a lot more to just that statement than in God we trust. I moved out to that area knowing that Lake Lowell was in front of me and Cope's Gravel Pit was behind me. Not everybody looks for God in four walls of a church. We look upwards into his creations in the heavens. And so I hope that the city takes that in mind. I ask that the city council, we know that growth is coming there, but we do ask that maybe this approval and the annexation of these two lots wait for the traffic impact study. Lake Lowell is a local road, not a connection road. For people who live out there to have, I mean, this is not 88,000 square feet. It's not a church. That is a campus. That is not something 1,300 people coming in and out of a two-lane road with no shoulders and ditches on the side of them is dangerous. There is no, the impact study needs to happen first before we approve for something as massive as this gets approved by the city. To be responsible to the people who live out there, to the wildlife that is out there. Because the very field that this church is going in is where the herd of deer lay. It's where the coyotes run through. And when I left this meeting last August, And I was told that it wouldn't affect wildlife. I drove into my neighborhood, which in seven years I've never seen a deer, right in front of my house. Because we have a subdivision being put in right now on the corner of Iowa and Midway that just got approved on the other side of Cope's gravel pit. This is having an impact. So I hope that the city council members do the responsible thing and and do the traffic impact study first before they approve anything going forward. And it's very interesting to me when the developers say that we just want this little corner. Well, it's the same developer who was just here in August that has Lake Loa Estates as well. which we all know that if Grace Bible Church does not get annexed in, then Lake Lowell Estates does not get to go forward either. So this isn't just a small developer developing a small little chunk of land out in the middle of the county. This is the same developer, and all these projects are tied together. So I ask you guys to please do the responsible thing. Like I said last time I was here, when I went to vote for mayor and city council, I got a ballot with two things on it, two measures. Not a mayor, not city council members, because I live in the county. But yet, two months in a row, I am speaking at Nampa City Council. And I own a business here in town, too. I've had it for 12 years. So I was very disappointed that I didn't get to vote. for the people where my business is at and my address is. So please be responsible and wait for the traffic study to come back.

Thanks, Sheila. Okay, is there anyone else that would like to speak? Mark? All right. Oh, Margie also. I'm sorry, Margie. Mark, Mark, you sit in the front row there until Margie's done. Margie, I apologize. Ladies always first in this council.

Hi, Margie Potter, 1811 North Cobbleway. I guess, you know, I wasn't going to speak, but... I keep hearing about the traffic in that area, and we're talking about a church, so something could go there. And it could be a lot more traffic than church, for sure. And I keep hearing, at least what I thought I heard Pastor Keith say, was that all that sports stuff is way down the road, that that's not even something that... is happening right this moment. So I don't even know why that's being considered. But what I would like to ask you is to please... Judge this on its own merit, not about the things that are happening around it, because maybe it's the same developer, maybe it's not. I don't know anything to do with that. But I know Pastor Heath and his wife have done so much in our community, and I'm sure they're not tied to what's happening in those other areas. And I know this has been... the other area or the other lots have, or the other corners have been waiting for this to happen, which tells me that this has, um, Oh, I have three minutes still. Thanks, sir.

Um, sorry.

OK, is that this has been in the works for quite a while. And I was thinking about when I used to go to church at Calvary Chapel in Boise and it's right off of the connector freeway there. And it was kind of a nightmare at first because they had a lot of growing pains when they first started there. And with traffic and it would back up and everything. And they worked it out, you know, and I believe that in good faith that they will work that out. Any traffic problems that will happen, you know, they will work with everybody and make sure that that, you know, that everything flows smoothly. That's all I have.

Okay. Thanks, Margie. Any other ladies before Mark? Mark, we do have one. Mark can wait. Holy mackerel. He used to say he liked me, but probably not anymore. Go ahead.

Hi, I'm Carol Gamble.

I live at 12606 Mary Lane. We are actually right behind Lakeview. that we just put in, or that's going in right now, and it's been horrific. So I feel for the people when that church starts to be built. And I don't have anything against that church that's a fine church. It's just, can't we find somewhere else to go? Do you know how much construction is out there right now? We have subdivision after subdivision stacked on top of each other. The poor little Iowa is so small, and Midway is just getting packed with people on the way in here tonight. It was just unbelievable, the traffic on Midway. So I just hope you do listen to the traffic study, and maybe we should do it not on a holiday or something like that so we have a true estimate of all of the vehicles that are going up and down that road, because it's a lot. And there's been accidents. Look at the tragic one that just happened at Middleton and Lake Lowell. We just have way too much traffic out there. Our roads aren't wide enough. They're not big enough. It's just a lot of building, and I know what I'm going through right now, and it's awful. Those great big machines going... Ten feet behind my house, my windows shake. It's just been horrific. Just a pile, that many more houses on top of us. That much more traffic on our little dinky Iowa and Midway Road. And I can't imagine, because I was in the traffic jam in front of the church when that happened. And it is, I mean, I'm proud of them. They have a great congregation. But it's a lot of people going in and out of there. And I can't imagine people not starting to complain because of the gravel pit. They dump a lot of gravel out of those trucks, and that's going to cause a lot of grief as well. So please think about this before we pile one more thing. out there against the refuge. I myself used to see deer constantly. That's even been whittled because, well, we have Lakeview right there going in. And so with all of those trying to get in there at once, it's just a lot. It's a lot on all of us. And there's numerous people out there that want to move, which is kind of sad. We're all from Idaho, and now we're getting ran out of Idaho. Or we have to go north or somewhere else because Napa's not what it used to be, which it's sad. I hate to see it change this much. Thank you.

Thanks, girl. Mark, you are up now. I won't put you back down. You're up.

I'm willing to wait. Well, we'll let Mark go. Go ahead. No, it's okay.

Thank you, Mayor, the City Council, and attendees. Most of my topics have already been covered, but there's... Could you please state your name and address? Oh, I'm sorry. Billy Sartorius. I live at 12674 Wild Rose Lane, right across the street from the projected church. I don't have any objections on a personal level about a church going in, but I do. We have the east boat ramp, and as has already been mentioned before about the traffic, at the far west corner of Lake Lowell. Lake Lowell butts up. The developers, which would be the developers' side, is a canal. So we already know that the road is going to have to be widened just for a turn lane. So is it possible that the city could note that the developer provides the distance and the cost to do that? Yeah, that was all that I wanted to add.

Hopefully that question will at least be responded to. Thank you. Okay.

Hi, Mark Mitchell, 123-55 Landau Way, Nampa, Idaho. Thanks for having us tonight. Councilman, this is a tough one. It really is. You know, being a resident here for decades, you've heard my speech before. I mean, I live at 123-55 Landau Way, and there was a deer or doe there the other day. I've seen them close to our neighborhood, around our neighborhood. And I think maybe a few people don't realize that Red Hawk used to be a gravel pit. There wasn't anything there. And there was no... Rail guard down there at the Curves, that's because my friends used to go there and party. I never did. You know, Southwest Napa, really, if you want to look at it in Canyon County, it's kind of the Eagle of Canyon County. Eagle, Idaho. Eagle is the highest income in the state. I thought Coeur d'Alene or Blaine, but it's not. It's Eagle. It can be very, very nice if laid out properly. It's going to take a lot of dedication, a lot of work. I know I speak, is it Crystal? Yeah, Crystal, her and I talked. The plan that they have for the traffic is it's there, but it's like all of us. Where's the money coming from? Developers are fighting against impact fees. There are impact fees, and they've helped a ton with our traffic. They don't like them because they've got to pass them on to the buyers, but that's just the way it goes. That or they raise our taxes, which that's going to happen too. It's got to if we're going to have the community that we all want. The birds are still there. Actually, with that golf course, I think there's probably a few more because they love those ponds at the lake. They really love them. Where the church is currently on Lone Star, it's kind of a booger to get in and out and even park in there. Sundays are kind of a traffic jam. This would give a four-way out, really, because it's on a corner. You could go west, northeast, or south. It's one day a week. It's not every day of the week. And I think that's what we forget sometimes. We're so concentrated on just that one day that we forget that's just one day a week. It's going to get there. The development will get there. Our infrastructure will get there. But it's going to take time. And it takes a lot of money. And we have to be the ones that foot that bill, whether we like it or not. If that's the kind of community we want. Sorry, but you're right. Nampa is not what it used to be. We have three high schools. And, yes, I'm coaching at Warhawk. Believe it or not, they let me coach. Guys, it's just crazy.

Did they do a background check?

Yeah, they did. They fingerprinted me. They did. They did a background. It took me a while to get there, though. You know, if we think about traffic, downtown's been a nightmare. But, you know, it's going to be so good when it's done. It's going to be awesome when it's done. This is a great place for a church. Is my time up?

20 seconds, Mark.

Okay. So I think that's really, this is a great place for a church. It's getting rid of all the homes. They're going to cut down on traffic because it's one day a week. It's not seven days a week. Sunday is the slow day. Just travel the freeway. Travel the inner city streets. Sundays are a slow day. So I'm hoping the council will take that in consideration with the growth that we've all seen and realize that it is not going to have a huge impact on the community. Refuge either.

Okay, time is up. Oh, really? I waited, though. You can sit in the back if you want.

Oh, yeah, I'll go back.

Okay, Becky, I think I'm going to have you come back up. Hopefully you wrote down some of the questions. We may need to hear a little bit from Daniel on some things. And I also heard an aquifer question, John, so that may be something to have you respond to in that area. Thanks.

All right, so I just want to thank everybody for their questions and concerns. So, yeah, to address the, we'll just kind of go point by point here. To address the traffic, so we have engaged in a traffic engineer, and we're going to conduct a TIS, a traffic impact study, and then we'll comply with whatever that traffic impact study comes back with, whether it be a turn lane, stacking lanes, any of that sort. We do have two entrances. I don't know if you can bring up, Terry, the site plan here for me.

Let me, if I may, Becky, while she's bringing it up, clarify. So you have directly contacted traffic for traffic study?

We have engaged with a traffic engineer, yes.

So you're doing that before the city or anything of that sort? You were already moving ahead with that?

Yes, in anticipation of this, yes. We have already engaged in a traffic engineer and they're in the process. in that study to figure out what mitigation efforts will need to take place there. As far as the wildlife goes, I mean, we're going to be providing way more trees on the property than there is existing right now. You can kind of see with that landscape plan, I mean, there's quite a bit of trees there. And that's just kind of a preliminary, you know, site plan there. We could add, you know, more, there's going to be more shrubs and trees. and whatnot around the building. So there will be significant landscaping more than what's existing there. And so as far as the recreational fields go, those were just conceptual there. We were just showing what could fit there. Just a scale is to show the potential. We're not proposing any of the ball fields, and we're definitely not proposing those lights. If you look at the site plan, there's no mention anywhere in the application, really, of lights in the fields. Let's see. So as far as the... The annexation is concerned. We are requesting an annexation and then a rezone to RS7. That rezone to RS7 will just help the existing homeowners and then the incoming homeowners understand what's going to be developed on those properties. I mean, it's a hard corner. Anything could go in in that hard corner. As you all know, you know, convenience stores and higher density housing. I mean, it's ripe for any of that stuff. So getting it zoned to an RS-7, homeowners know what's going to be going in there. You know, like, you know, we'll match the existing zoning to the east. And so, I mean, let's see here. The development, this is not a development, a single-family housing development. It's a So it's not going to operate like a single-family housing development. It's going to operate like the gentleman before me said. The traffic is going to operate in non-peak hours. It'll be on a Sunday morning. It won't affect peak hours. And then the development pattern is going to be significantly different from what a single-family detached housing development pattern will look like. And so it's not apples to apples comparison there. What else? And then I'm gonna turn it over to Daniel and maybe talk about traffic from the city side.

Thank you, Becky. Daniel, go ahead. Mayor, the city's traffic impact study policy requires traffic studies at two different times. One is at a preliminary plat approval and one at a building permit. So where there is no plat in this situation, the traffic impact study is required to come in with the building permit. That will be reviewed by myself, by Matt Ricks in traffic, as well as the city's traffic consultant, Joe Barton with Paragon, to verify that it has been done in the appropriate manner. We will sit down with them before they start the traffic study and scope based on the size of the traffic study that is required, what intersections they have to look at, and all of that. They will then conduct the traffic study. It gets submitted to us. We review that. It goes through typically a couple of rounds of review and approval, and then they would be designing those improvements that are triggered, and a certificate of occupancy would not be issued on the structure until such time as the required improvements would actually be constructed so who would we be responsible for the cost of whatever is a Recommended the developer would be responsible for any non background traffic issues and at this point I'm unaware of any background issues that are there currently. The studies that have been done for previous developments have not identified needed improvements there at the intersection now. And so I would anticipate that any triggered improvements would be triggered by the development.

Yes, for Daniel as well. To ensure compliance with the TIS report, who oversees that in conjunction with the developer?

So that is through my development engineering. So we review that at the time of that building permit. So my staff and myself we review and and require compliance with that prior to issuance of the building permit Is that currently part of the staff conditions? I didn't that is just standard staff that is standard policy and practice for the city It's not something that needs to be a separate condition. It is how we operate currently

But if the TIS report wasn't generated before this meeting or submitted before this meeting, do we have to say that?

No. Our current city policies require a traffic impact study for this type of development, regardless of the annexation or not. It is part of the current city policies to require that at the time of their building permit. Thank you.

Councilman Rodriguez, I can see you're ready.

Thank you, sir. I'm concerned with the partial, the RS-7. So one of the testifiers said that it's going to be connected to another development. Is it or not?

The four-acre parcel is no. So that parcel A on this map is not, there's no development planned for this, for parcel A. And if there were, it would have to go to a public hearing. It would have to go before planning and zoning, you guys. Yes.

I just want to clarify that. One follow-up, sir. Yes. You did mention that this could be a high density. Is that correct?

Correct me if I'm wrong, Terry. So I believe with a conditional use permit, you can do duplexes. And then I believe... I will let Terry, I'll let Terry take it from here.

Thank you, Mayor and Councilman Rodriguez. It is medium density residential land use designation, which does allow zoning down to the RD, which is two family residential land. which does allow up to a four-unit townhouse by right. So they're not looking at a, sorry, in the RS-6 zoning district, they would be allowed a duplex with a conditional use permit That's the zone they're asking for, RS-7. But the medium-density residential land use would not allow commercial or high-density residential.

Okay. So that's, when you said high-density, that's incorrect.

Well, yeah, duplexes, however you want to classify a duplex.

Yes, okay. Terry, if we were to do an agreement and modify and say no duplexes or apartment complexes in this area, would that suffice our direction?

You could include something of the sort in your development agreement. which could take away the possibility of a duplex with conditional union.

Okay. Becky, and I know you haven't talked to the pastor yet. Would you be willing, would Grace Bible be willing to accept those negotiations that way?

Yes. Thank you.

There's no future plan for it, so yes. Mayor, just two more follow-ups, kind of in the same vein. The Lake Lowell Estates explanation. They stated that if we approve this tonight, the Lake Lowell Estates moves forward. Isn't the Lake Lowell Estates still moving forward anyway? Didn't they have a path to annexation? I believe we didn't give them a pre-annexation. They were annexed and they're approved to develop, correct? Correct.

Mayor and council, this is the path of annexation. You had a condition on that one to say that this would have to be annexed first before you could do the ordinance.

So where on the map am I missing this? Is it to the west of the Grace Bible site? So they'd be skipping the corner, then Grace Bible, and then it's to the west of them? Is that the square lot there?

Yeah, just to the west.

And that was the acreage property where it was one and a half to two acre properties?

Larger lot. Thank you. Okay. So you have an understanding, Councilman? I do. Okay. John, why don't you, if you don't mind, Becky, I'm going to have John Spencer come up, Director of Water Resources, and just speak to the aquifer since that was mentioned by one of our... Go ahead, John.

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Council, John Spencer, Director of Water Resources. The Idaho Department of Water Resources oversees granting of water rights and drilling of wells and currently the City of Napa has more water right than we currently use and so we have the ability to draw on the aquifer and the City of Napa draws from a deep aquifer. IDWR would be the ones to really be able to answer the question about the health of the aquifer. I don't want to speak for that. That acronym, I know in the city we use a lot of acronyms. Explain to them what that stands for. The Idaho Department of Water Resources is IDWR. They're the ones who oversee that and grant those rights. Okay. And we do not need any additional rights or any additional need for from Idaho Department of Water Resources for this. Thank you, John. Any other questions?

Yes, Mayor.

Yes.

To clarify again, John, I felt like I was listening by fully to comprehend. They would be utilizing a well on this site or they will be tapping into city utilities?

My understanding is they'd be tapping into the city facilities. Wells are the ones that both belong to the city that feed the system.

And then I need a clarification because now the Lake Lowell States is part of this in my mind. who will be paying for the utilities to be pulled all the way to the estates? Is a portion going to be the estates and then a portion grace Bible and so on.

So that will be worked out between the two parties. That is not who pays for the infrastructure is not city business. Um, that is ultimately between the two developers. Uh, we just require what infrastructure has to go in. Um, how they choose to fund it is not pertinent to the city. So to confirm, the city is not paying for it?

The city would not be paying for it. Thank you. And then in the terms of the development agreement on the RS7 property, because we're already giving it its zoning and annexing, is there going to be another time when the development comes back before City Council for design or future development agreements on that RS7 property, or is that needing to be completed now?

Are you asking if you can adjust the development agreement on the other property that we're not?

No, no, no, no, not the Lake Lowell State. That's done. I'm talking about the Kitty Corner, the southeast RS7, four acres. Are we having to finalize our development agreement for that property now, or will they bring forward a final plan in 10 years, 15 years, or whenever it gets developed?

Mayor, may I respond? Yeah, so annexation and your rezone is your primary time where you can look at a development agreement. So this really is the time where you want to identify any conditions you want to place on it.

Is there a way we can identify a development agreement to state that they have to come back forward to have an additional development agreement terms outlined at build out?

Is that a legal question?

I think it is. Mayor, if I may. Sure, that could be a condition you put on. You'd have to have a objective triggering event of when it comes forward.

Otherwise, it's illusory. Do you have any recommendations of what that event would be if our goal is we don't know what will go here, we don't know how it will look, and we don't know what this council will look like? So should we base it off of prior to final approval timeline? When would be best for planning and zoning? I defer to them to re-hear that.

Mayor and Council, the final plat is a little late because we're just matching. That's a quasi-judicial situation, so you're matching what is on the preliminary plat. So if your preliminary plat were to come before you, typically that just goes to Planning and Zoning Commission, but that could be a trigger for requiring a development agreement with new conditions. Thank you. Council President?

Mayor, Council, from my perspective, Parcel A has been identified as RS7 zone. That's what they're asking for. It meets the comp plan for the medium density residential. The neighborhood next to that that's already been developed out is an RS7. It seems it's going to continue with the same basic standards of subdivision development. I don't, under the RS-7, you don't have the ability to do and finagle a bunch of things, as at least my prior experience has been. And I think we're trying to design something that doesn't need to be designed at this stage. And it's the zoning. It's the annexation and zoning place. And if... whether it's this applicant or somebody else comes back on that parcel and turns around and asks for RS4, then it's council and staff's position to say, no, we zoned it RS7, and it's going to remain RS7. Trying to put extra conditions on this applicant for that little parcel doesn't seem appropriate to me.

My intention is not to change. I think the RS7 is likely appropriate. I think not having duplexes or high density is also appropriate. I just don't want an application to come forward where we have a taut lot in the bottom of a stormwater basin. So just to have the additional set of eyes when the time comes in the preliminary plat stage to say this layout looks appropriate, there is connected walking trails into the neighborhood, things along those lines, rather than just I assume they're going to have to maintain the 15%. All the things are still there, but just the final set of eyes to make sure it fits for that corner, even if it is only four acres.

Well, four acres, by the time the right-of-way is dedicated, you're down to three acres, maybe 2.75. So there's not going to be a lot of density put in there. And at 7,000 minimum square footage, you can do the math, you're at best going to get 3.2 units per acre of the remainder of So if you have even best three acres, you may get nine to 12 lots in there. I think we're arguing and trying to design something that the staff and the experience and the ordinances that have been in place for 25 years are going to take care of. So I think we're worried about the conjecture of a four-acre parcel that's going to go residential.

So this is kind of directed to you counseling so in this area they talked about duplexes I've had several calls from Concerned citizens is that it's going to be apartments thrown in that small area and And so does the RS7, does it restrict apartments? Or do we need to say in future development, can we not have apartment complexes?

That can probably go to Rodney. Thank you, Rodney. Mayor and Council, RS7 does not allow apartments, not at all. It doesn't even allow townhouses, three to four dwelling units. It's single family homes.

Okay. And then according to a follow-up, according to what we have in our comp plan, it really needs to be compatible to the subdivision that it backs up against. So the spacing of those homes that it will be touching to the east, it should be the same. We don't have to require that or ask for that. Does that make sense?

I think so. Mayor and Council, the same standards that applied to the RS7 zone, that subdivision next to it, apply to this new one. So you would have very, very consistent subdivision standards for both.

Okay. So we're not likely to see a hookah bar or, I mean, there's several things on that list that I'm like, uh-oh, not good. Okay.

I'm sure.

Yes. Thank you.

Okay. Councilman Rodriguez, do you want to still speak?

Yes, I do. Thank you, David. I appreciate what you just said because it kind of cleared up some questions that have been going on with the community and especially with me, too. So thank you for that. And I'm not worried about that any longer. So I just want to say that thank you. We're good.

Council, we finish with questions.

I move that we close public hearing. Second.

Okay. All in favor say aye. Aye. Okay, we're ready for council discussion. I am going to bring legal. I didn't really give him a forewarning. We discussed a few weeks ago. There are council members, including Mayor, including myself, that are affiliated with Grace Bible. So my question to him a few weeks ago was what we needed to express and if there was any recusement that was needed. So if you could just speak to that, and I'd appreciate that. Yeah, Mayor, thank you.

We take public hearings very seriously, right? We know that. And whenever there's a matter that comes up, there could be a question or even a perceived conflict of interest, we talk about it. Under Idaho law, it is governed under statute, both in the Idaho Ethics Law and the Land Use Planning Act, of what defines a conflict of interest. As Mayor alluded to, some may attend or are aware of this congregation. And the law defines that as a pecuniary or financial interest. Most common example would be you know the developer. You're related to him. You're going to financially benefit by this. Key word is financial. It's not, you know, where you have a benevolent interest or anything like that. So talking with counsel and mayor and others who may have touch with the applicant on their use and activities. We deem there wasn't any conflict of interest, but an abundance of caution wanted to disclose that out of transparency, which mayor has done here tonight.

Question. In regard to tithing, if you give to the church and ultimately the church builds this building with that money, is that considered a financial interest? No, that would not be. Thank you.

Mayor.

Yes.

In regards to that, I just want to disclose that I have visited with the pastors at the church regarding this building project.

Okay. Mayor, based off that fact, what we do here, Councilman and woman, would be to disclose who you talked with and the general nature of that conversation so that that can be included in the record here.

Okay, so I spoke with Pastor Keith and Pastor McCrary about, I wanted to know about the four-acre lot. I didn't know if the church owned that lot or not. And so me speaking with them was to find out if that was owned by them, and it's not. And so that was my main focus on that, and then just sharing with them different concerns that was already public in the packet about the annexation and stuff like that.

Thank you, Councilwoman. Mayor, based off that, that satisfies the legal requirement. Nothing stated in there would jeopardize or put in any risk here.

Mayor? Yes. I have also spoken to the good pastor of Grace Bible regarding this project and the housing component to it being of concern regarding no discussion of votes or how this would go came about in that conversation. It was more of a matter of understanding ownership and development of the property.

Mr. Mayor. Yes. Boy, we're getting a lot of disclosure here.

Yeah. Okay. I also have spoken with Pastor Keith briefly, um, I think my conversation regarded around the sports fields and access to those sports fields, which was not even part of the plan immediately. So that was the extent of my conversation that I've had with Pastor Keith.

Victor, you want to disclose anything?

Yeah, boy.

Sorry, Councilman Rodriguez.

Yeah, that's fine. In this community, there are two people that I try to talk to and can't. One is right here. Pastor Keith and the other one is our mayor. So no, sir.

I haven't talked to neither one of you. I want to know when the counselor Rodriguez has stopped talking.

Mayor for clarification, if I could. Yes. Just in terms that sparked the conversation. If part of the development agreement, can we attach a condition where, I think the lighting is of concern at this point. It's very clear that that's not a part of the initial stage or phasing. Is there something that the city can sign off on prior to those going up? I think soccer fields are great. I think softball fields are great. I think baseball fields are great. It's the lighting that's a concern. So if we can put those in for the summer league or softball league or whatever goes on, I know it goes into the late hours, but when that time comes, how can we add a process rather than just automatic approval of lights to go up? Council President, did you have a comment?

I do. I just... Again, I want to share experience, having been a part of developing properties and putting commercial next to residential, parking lot lighting, The industry provides shields and down lighting and a different type of lighting and all of those factors can come into play that the fields can be lit without a great deal of overspill to the neighbors. So if there's something in there but My experience has been that comes right up through from the city staff in review of the plans and the development, and it's a regular occurrence. So I don't think we've got to get too deep into all the different requirements. I think it will boil out as time goes on.

Rodney? Mayor, just quickly, that's already in code. So this would already handle that. The specific type of lighting is already in code? Correct. The shielding of the lighting is already a requirement.

And do you feel it satisfies the concerns of the residents in regard to the refuge? Is it specific enough to help not eliminate but lessen the light pollution and the effect that it may have on the wildlife?

Aaron Council that that's a hard question for me to answer I would I would say it definitely minimizes the impact it doesn't it doesn't prevent it from spilling over completely but yet it certainly is designed to keep the light facing downward and on the property councilman.

Mister mayor I am comfortable with the R 7 designation I feel like it is spelled out clearly enough in our documents to keep anything from being built there that should be different than RS7. I'm comfortable with the project as proposed, and I'm going to make a motion to approve the request as stated on the screen with recommended conditions of approval and the proposed findings. Second.

Okay. We have a motion and a second. Any further? Hopefully not any further discussion. Are we done? Okay. Madam Clerk, roll call, please.

Gogg? Yes. Bills?

Yes.

Rodriguez?

Yes.

Griffin?

Yes.

Reynolds? Yes. All in favor? Motion carries.

I'm sure, Grace folks, you'll want to stay for the rest of the council meeting. Yes. Yeah, we need something fixed, so we're taking another break. This will be for about eight minutes.

Oh, how about ten? As long as it takes Char. Yeah. I should say three. It'll be ten.

Thank you for your expertise

So, they made me reach out to them. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you. Thank you.

Let's go around the other way, try to get out.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good work, Marcia, on Sunday. It's the Sunday of last Sunday.

Do your gymnastics now.

That's how bad I am. So, they blend together.

Okay. Yeah. Well, I... Listen, I would like... Oh, excellent. Thank you. That was hilarious what you said. You actually made me laugh. That was a good one.

The timing was spot on.

Hey, I still want to grab one of these. I want one of these. Thank you. Uh-uh. No, wait. Not in my case.

Say it again. Stay awake.

Thank you.

Council, we need at least one more person up here for a quorum. Okay, we got four. We got four here. Just missing David's coming back. Okay, we'll reconvene. We have our next public hearing, which I will read. Boy, we've kind of vacated the premises, haven't we? Okay. Thank you for those of you. Even though it's not quantity, it's great quality. So appreciate having you out here. Okay. Action item 6-2, public hearing, Napa City Code ordinance, text amendments for Title 10, Chapter 1, edit definitions for accessory dwelling units, dwelling, single family, tiny houses, and recreational vehicles. Title 10, Chapter 29, repeal manufactured home standards and replace with accessory dwelling unit standards per Idaho State Code 67-6541. and Title 10 and Chapter 27, Section 4 to add standards for a starter home subdivision per Idaho State Code 67-6541 for the City of Nampa and changes to Title 4 building code regarding accessory dwelling units. I believe we just have a staff report from Christy. That's correct.

Thank you, Mayor.

And she promised it was going to be short, right? Sure. All right.

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Christy Watkins, Principal Planner for the City of Nampa. The action before you this evening is for approval of a few code changes that have been directed by the State of Idaho. Recent legislation from the State was adopted on July 1st, and it directs the cities to adopt codes that align with it by February of 2027. They're still working to clarify some confusion, but we wanted to get the bulk of it taken care of as soon as possible. and we will tweak it as we go, as we hear from the state on those clarifications. So, I'm assuming you all read through this. If you want me to go through some things for describing any of it, I can certainly do that, answer some questions for you, or we can just jump straight to your decision.

You ready to make a decision? Ready for a motion? No, we gotta, I'm sorry, we gotta have public testimony and all that kind of stuff. I apologize. Okay. I was really ready for, say, go get going here.

There you are, if you have no further questions.

Those are the motions. Okay, so we are next to this public testimony. Do we have anyone signed up, Madam Clerk?

No, Mr. Mayor.

Is there anyone out here that would like to comment on this? Okay, and I would think that, Christy, you don't have any closing remarks, correct? I do not. Okay, so do we have a motion to close public hearing?

Okay, all in favor say aye aye Okay, let's do America. Yes quick question So my screen is Reason locked up So I had an in our packet page 578 There is a something in the write-up that indicated possibly eliminating townhomes Anybody speaking I'm off on that

Unfortunately, I can't I can't get any action here so He we repealed the section for manufactured homes and there was a note that At the bottom of the ADUs that says any accessory dwelling unit proposed to be greater than 1,000 square feet and attached to the primary dwelling unit will be defined as a duplex and will be required to follow the Tampa City Code as outlined in Title 10 Chapter 3 as a conditionally allowed use. Otherwise, I don't know that we really spoke to townhouses.

I was speaking to duplex. Is that correct?

Yeah. I mean something here, but I was trying to. I just had my note. I didn't understand the one part that I saw in the new deal.

Oh, I see. I know which one you're talking about. So in Chapter 27, we took out 1027-4A4 that references townhouses because it was kind of repetitive. We already have language in other places in the code that talks about townhouses, so it didn't really need to be there in the subdivision chapter.

Okay. So we took it out. The possibility of town homes where we're just clarifying the standards for townhouses.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yes. Thank you.

Yeah. That was that part. Okay.

Appreciate it.

Mayor for Christie.

Yes. Just to confirm, this is updating our code for the legislative changes that came into effect. More or less, I know they did a lot on ADUs and recreational vehicles and lot sizing and all that. This keeps us fully compliant.

Thank you, Mayor and Councilman Griffin. Yes, this brings us into alignment with state code.

Thank you. Rodney, did you have a comment?

Yeah, Mayor, Preston and I were just discussing that there may be a need We have to encourage our legislature to clarify this. And this code was really difficult to understand. And we have cities throughout the Valley and throughout the state that are interpreting it very differently. And so we've struggled with that quite a bit to understand what exactly that they were intending So in the coming session, we may need to put some pressure on the legislature to clarify some of this language so that we can come back and fix the code accordingly.

Mayor?

I want to add on one additional item. In our short issue here, in our write-up on our agenda, we're saying that... Section 4 to add standards for starter home subdivision. I would appreciate a definition of starter home subdivision You can read that for you if I'd like Is that in the new code?

It is mayor if I may so the new law that was enacted is 67 65 41 titled starter home subdivisions And it states starter home subdivision means a residential subdivision on at least four acres of land that is designed to provide attainable homeownership opportunities with single family detached dwellings on smaller lots that are no greater than 1,500 square feet per lot. having compact home sizes, and have efficient site design that reduces development costs while maintaining compatibility with surrounding neighborhoods. That is the definition. What that means is up to a lot of interpretation, and that's what Rodney and his team are alluding to.

Well, thanks for the reminder, because I haven't read it since the legislature jammed that through in the last few days of their session, and I was upset then, and it rekindles the fire now.

Sorry to bring back some undesirable feelings, yeah.

Well, I just think I hate nebulous definitions in the housing and who that pertains to and using those type of phraseology. And that starter homes, you're regulated to 400 square feet. And this is your opportunity in life is to own a 400 square foot type deal. So it just kind of tips on my real estate side of life.

Clay, do you mind coming up? I'm going to put you on the spot for a minute. Chief of Staff, Clay Long. Just to check my recall, when we met with the legislators here a couple weeks ago, I believe that was briefly discussed. Do you recall that? I do not. Okay. Well, I may have dreamt it.

Were ADUs discussed?

But anyway, my point is, the plan is, I was very encouraged, and Council President was there also. I was encouraged because before they left, they said, we need to do this more often. And so at least I'm hoping, I haven't talked to Clay lately, but hopefully first part of November at the latest, we will meet with our local legislators again and lobby, and we'll include council. I don't think there's a challenge in including council with that. We would have to maybe have two scogs here, but other than that, we'd be okay.

We would just have to be cognizant of open meeting if we end up with them, if we open up, if we end with a quorum of counsel there.

Well, okay.

So we may just then can we just notice it, give a notice that we're going to gather with them or do we have to live stream it in order to qualify for the open meeting laws?

Well, that's legal. What you would do is do a notice of attendance. There wouldn't be any decision made there. It's just informed the public. A quorum's gathering to talk about matters of public policy.

Which might be worth publishing, but there could be advocation?

Yes, absolutely. No decisions, though, unless you wanted to have a decision.

Thank you, Clay. Mayor? Yes. Can I get clarification on how big one of these starter townhomes would be with our current setback requirements? It doesn't seem like a lot of space on a 1,500-square-foot lot if we're coming 20 off the front, 15 off the back, five on each side.

Yeah, you did the same calculation that we did. And it's not necessarily a townhouse. It's a single-family home, but it's small, right? And you're absolutely right. 1,500 square feet on that lot size, depending on whether it's long or short or wide, right? will determine how much space you get. You could go double-story.

That was my follow-up, is the intention here to put two, three stories up to be able to stay within that footprint.

Potentially. We still have a requirement of... Well, I think the parking was eliminated as well, so... Okay, that's the ADU. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

Yeah. So we'd still have the parking requirement, which is a little strange, right? Because how do you fit that parking?

Sounds like it's going to be just a garage bottom level and then build up.

Just my perspective here, I don't think this is going to be... Utilized? I don't see how it's going to work. If our minimum standard is 1,500 square foot, and that's the smallest we can go, and the maximum... for a starter home subdivision is 1,500 square feet as well. You're looking at 1,500 square foot lots, period. There's a little bit of language in there that says, hey, if your services don't have the capacity, you might be able to adjust that or whatever. I just don't see that being used right now until we get some clarification on this code. What they have stated is that they... They wanted, some legislators have stated that they intended for it to be at least, you could go above that in size. So you could go from 1,500 to whatever your next zoning would allow you. But it didn't say that in the code. So I think they've got to make some clarifications to the code before we can really utilize it.

Any other further clarification are we ready for for public hearing already move to approve?

Hey roll call please God bills Reynolds Rodriguez yes Griffin. Yes on favor motion carries.

Okay. We're ready for six three. I Vacation of an emergency access easement in an RS-7 single-family residential zoning district addressed as 3184 East Mosse. I hope that's pronounced. Is that Mosse? Mosse Rock Court for Nathan Brown Mecham. Original concept, vacate emergency access easement along the south side of the property that was required until a permanent access road within the subdivision was built. which is now completed. Our applicant here? Yes, sir. Come on out. And how do you pronounce your last name? Nathan Meacham. Meacham.

Okay. Thank you, sir. I've heard it said very many ways. Yeah, so we're just looking to vacate the emergency access easement.

I'm sorry, could you state your name and address for the record?

Yeah, Nathan Brown Meacham, 3184 East Mossy Rock Court. I got my seat right. Yeah, we're looking to vacate the southern side. It's an emergency access easement right now. It's got two bollards and a chain on the back side, on the west side, that I assume was for the fire department to use when they built the subdivision. So, yeah, we're just looking to fence it off and be able to park our car back there.

Okay, anything else you'd like to present? I don't. Okay, so Terry, you're on again, looks like.

Thank you, Mayor and Council Members. Terry Friend, Associate Planner for the City of Nampa. The request before you tonight is the vacation of an emergency access easement at 3184 East Mossy Rock Court, which is just east of Southside Boulevard. This is a .4 acre parcel in an RS6, sorry, RS7 zoning district. And as you can see on the map, on the screen, there are enclaved Canyon County parcels adjacent to the north and to the south, and the properties in the city of Nampa and the, sorry, properties in the city of Nampa and zoned RS6 lie to the west, and the Mossy Creek subdivision zoned RS7 is to the east. The subject property is identified here in the red box. The area of the emergency access easement is shown in yellow. The easement was initially required to provide a second point of ingress-egress for emergency vehicles to access the Mossy Creek subdivision. That subdivision is now built out and the roads that have been constructed for the 7 Maples Ranch to the south provide the permanent emergency access connectivity and that makes this one no longer necessary. Applicable codes for the vacation of an easement are shown on the screen. Nampa Engineering does not oppose the application. However, they did identify that there is public utilities within this easement area. So although engineering supports the vacation of the emergency access easement, that same area needs to be retained as a public utility easement. No other departments or agencies commented on this application and we did not receive public comments. This slide shows the proposed findings for the vacation of the emergency access easement, and it was also listed in your staff report. These are the proposed conditions of approval as identified in your staff report. And here are your potential motions. And just for your reference, the vacation criteria are listed at the bottom of the screen, and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Council, any questions for Terri? Okay, I think we're ready for, I take it to you probably, Mr. Meacham, do you have anything else you would like to add at all? Okay, public testimony, please. Is there anyone that would like to speak on this issue? Close the public hearing?

Okay.

Not quite yet.

They do have the right to rebut any testimony or lack thereof.

I just got you out, I had you out of order, so you still have the same answer? Okay. Move to close public hearing. Okay. Second. It was second? Okay. Roll call, please. Well, I can do an all in favor on this one? Oh, yeah, I can, can't I? No, just for all in favor for closing the public hearing. All in favor, please.

All right.

Okay, now can we do roll call or you want further discussion?

Mayor, I move to recommend approval of the project as stated on the screen. Okay.

Okay, now roll call. Okay, here we go.

Skog. Yes. Bills.

Yes.

Rodriguez.

Yes.

Reynolds. Yes. Griffin. Yes. All in favor? Motion carries.

Okay, very exciting. Thank you. All right. Let's see if I can do better on 6-4. Thank you, Mr. Meacham. Have a nice evening. Okay, here we go. Annexation and zoning to IL, which is light industrial for a 7.06 acre parcel addressed as 73 North Happy Valley Road and zoning map amendment from RA suburban residential to IL light industrial for a 20.02 acre parcel addressed as 91 North Happy Valley Road. For Lindsey Johnson, representing City of Nampa, original concept, annexation of one parcel into the city, rezone second parcel to support future development of the airport facility and ensure appropriate land uses in the vicinity. So we get to have your name and address, please.

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Alex Jones, JUB Engineers, 2760 West Excursion Lane, Suite 400, Meridian, Idaho. JUB Engineers was contracted by the airport to help with this application. So it's a very straightforward application. Two city-owned parcels that want to change their one wants to annex into a zoning that matches the comp plan designation and the other one that wants to be rezoned from the split zoning of IL and RA to a full IL designation. Can I stand for any questions? Council?

Okay. Thank you, sir. I guess we will have a staff report. Christy is back up.

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Christy Watkins, Principal Planner for the City of Nampa. As stated, this is a request for annexation and zoning to IAL and rezoning to IAL. In July, the Nampa Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of this application. The property is surrounded by IL zones and county property on the other side of Happy Valley. Engineering comments about the services, the utility services that are available, the access that is available, and the required right-of-way dedication, and the fact that there would be a 10-foot wide pathway required along the frontage, and that a TIS may be required at the time of development depending on what they propose. These are the applicable regulations for annexation and zoning. The engineering department is the only department that had any kind of correspondence. In accepting an application, they meet all four criteria. For a zoning request, there are three criteria that need to be found to be met. It is in harmony with the comprehensive plan. It does propose a set of uses that are reasonably compatible with the adjoining properties. and it is in the public interest and reasonably necessary because future development will extend city utilities and will install frontage improvements and is compatible with the surrounding area. These are the proposed conditions of approval and the potential motions. I'll stand for any questions.

Council? No question? Okay, we'll have public testimony. I'm sure all of you would like to address this issue. No one. Yes. Okay. Thank you, Patty. Okay. Thanks, Patty.

Uh, Patty Evans, three, six, one, six East rolling green place, Napa, Idaho. Um, I like this. I like this a whole lot more than apartments. I travel up and down happy Valley to go to Winco and I, I avoid the area unless I'm going to Winco. I go out, um, From Nampa, I go out and go down to 10 miles off of Victory. I don't even go up Happy Valley. So I like light industrial. There's also going to be something coming up to you at the end of the runway that's going from residential to light industrial. It went through planning and zoning a couple of weeks ago. I like that too, that's going to reduce traffic, although I feel very bad for the people who are going to be staring at a 32-foot high building. I really truly have empathy for that. But I also, if you go back, can you go back to the picture of the plat of the airport? If you look south of the airport, you'll see this green, little lines going sideways down there in the bottom. That is coming up 52 acres for R4. That's right across from the entrance of my neighborhood, and I don't like that. That's 200 houses. It is currently light industrial, and it has Mason Creek running through it. I think that would be a very poor use of that property. It's too close to the airport. I feel like it needs to also remain light industrial.

Patty, we'll give you opportunity when that one comes up.

Okay, just saying that I like light industrial. That's my point of Mayor Bruner is I like light industrial around the airport. I think it is good for the economy of Nampa. That's all I'm going to say.

Thank you. Anyone else like to speak on this issue? Okay, any closing remarks, Christy? Oh, okay. Maybe, Jay, I'm sorry. And what was your first name? Alex. Alex, okay. And you have no comment? Aaron moved to close public hearing.

Second.

Hey, guess what? All in favor? Aye. Aye.

Good job. Aaron moved to approve the project as stated on the screen.

Second.

Roll call.

Fogg. Yes. Bills.

Yes.

Reynolds. Yes. Rodriguez. Yes. Griffin. Yes. All in favor? Motion carries.

All right, we made it through the public hearings. Way to go, Council. And Christy and Terry, great job. Thank you for keeping it somewhat brief, but also understandable. Okay. Okay, we're ready to go back to our 5-5, I believe. Is that correct? If I find it. Here it is. New business. So we're on 5-5. So we have about six more to go here. Action item, adopt the utility, I'm sorry, John, kept you here late again. Well, not too bad, okay. Adopt a utility cost of service rate study, final report, and make recommendation to public staff to remain with the current tiered rate structure. And John Spencer is, or I see somebody on the screen who's, so John, if you can introduce him, if he's gonna speak, please.

Mayor, City Council, John Spencer, Director of Water Resources. We have Chris Gonzalez from the FCS group that is available for questions as well.

Thank you, Chris. Okay. Anything that you want to say at all for John to say or Chris, Council? Guess not.

Here we go.

Sorry. Trying to get it signed in again. Take your question away, then, or comment. Do you have it? When you're ready, your mic needs to be on if you do want to say something.

Yeah, there's a comment on 329.

Here, I'll put your mic on here. Okay. We don't have anybody, Clay, anybody from IT here as far as to check on his? Okay. I know I'm not going to be able to fix it.

I guess the question is, you got options in there, it looks like to me. I mean, you're showing where you could keep under one rate and it's going to be flat under another option. We're going up every year and What I wasn't clear on then is what are you recommending or what's the consultant recommending? Are we working towards the increase year to year? Because it seems like we're low in the water side to me. And so I'm trying to, in my mind, if we're going to get some funding in to help on our infrastructure issue, we've got to raise rates. And that's what I'm trying to confirm.

Mayor, Councilman Bills, I think there's two different aspects to my response to that question. There is the Board of Appraisers requested an evaluation between a flat rate schedule for rates for domestic water. Currently, we have a tiered rate. So those that use less water, there's a lower rate per cubic foot versus the higher use citizens. So that is one of the One of the requests tonight is to provide that type of recommendation, to stick with the tiered approach, and that's what staff recommends. Then on the study side, both for water and for irrigation, there is a schedule of rate that the consultant has developed for us We're not proposing any rates today, but those rates are, or those percentage increases are presented in the study. And we will be coming back at a later date to present in a public hearing what those rate requests will be.