City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, January 20, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Newberg, OR
Meeting Date
January 20, 2026

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403 sections (from 463 segments)

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Sorry. Yes.

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Welcome. Welcome, everybody. Good evening. Welcome to the Newburgh City Council, 01/20/2026. Happy New Year, everybody. It is great to see a full crowd of people. I hope everybody is here, for good reasons, and we have a lot of good things to say. So thank you for showing up. It's always fun to have a meeting when we have a a lot of people in the audience. So we have a lot of things to take care of today. I call this meeting to order. We have roll call, please?

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Certainly. Councilor McBride?

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Councilor Wheatley? Here. Councilor Kilburg? Here. Mayor Rosacker?

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Councilor Churgisen? Here. Councilor Carmen?

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And councilor Yarnell Holloman? Here. There you go.

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Alright. Would everybody please stand and join me in the, pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So the first item on our agenda is the city manager report for December.

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Now I'm certain that everybody's here this evening to hear the section later on about the city's new LiDAR scan and the technology that we're using to repair roads. So when we get back, you'll have to wait till later to hear that bit. In the meantime, let's press on. Community engagement, this is the things that happened in December. We had the highest performing post for December, updates to Springbrook Road Sanitary.

2:13 – 2:314

We had yes. We had a sewer overflow due to overly heavy rain. We need to fix that sewer line. Storm preparedness, the street sweeper contest resulted in the unfortunate name, sir sweeps a lot. I'm sorry to have said unfortunate, but I preferred mister scrubby.

2:32 – 3:274

But I did not have a vote, and we refreshed some old emergency alerts with updated links. City recorder onboarded new board committee members, released updated inclement weather policy, and we're not gonna have any really bad weather this winter, I'm sure. Interviewed for a new grant writer position and completed engineering data cleanup, finalized public works calendar and wrapped up a busy '25 and got ready to serve the city with even more energy in '26. Groundwater treatment plant filter covers, the steel buildings that will cover the six filter basins are anticipated for delivery in late December and early January and we know that some of the stuff has arrived and the rest will arrive soon. Keller approved final submittal for the fabric for the buildings that cover two of the basins.

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There's the anticipated deliveries and as you know, this is a delicious, unfunded, unscientific state mandate. And over to River Street Engineering, Keller continues development of alternative typical sections, corridor plans and intersection designs to evaluate the River Street options. Concept alternatives will include a review of high level costs, preliminary design alternatives will be presented to city councilors in February to get some extra input, and then there will be city town halls so folks can lean in to the designs and give

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us their

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opinions. Nurra now has a federal tax ID number thanks to our amazing attorney for doing the legwork and we'll be able to do federal filings when we start to build that project out. In December, finance did the following: court online payment portal up and running, attended the FEMA training, catch up work and reviews for policies for the New Year that may need updated, and meetings to support the building of our new rates model. And there are just a few of the smashing things that public works operations did. Water consumption was down a tad in December.

4:55 – 5:314

Wellhouse 3 being reassembled after the well was abandoned. Now as you may know, periodically our wells become bound with salt, and then we need to move on down the road, drill a new one, and we do that all the time. But luckily, the water that comes from these wells is as fresh and delicious as any in this union. Manganese is probably good for you too. Public works day, operations wastewater, peak flow was 7.11 megagallons.

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That was a really big day, huge rainfall, two twenty four yards of compost given away, 1st And School Street utility abandonment is shown there, one of the things connected to the ODOT ADA ramp project. Public works maintenance, big focus in December on sweeping and cleaning. 118 cubic yards or 12 dump truck loads of junk leftied off the streets, 65 miles done, couple of new meters installed. And this night photo shows the sewer crew assisting the water crew after hours with a water service leak on 3rd Street, which they had to remediate. Clean up and facility improvement.

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The yard was cleaned, new turf was added, a broken irrigation line was repaired, the library and PSB were pressure washed and a new drinking fountain was installed in this building. Now here's the bad news. We had a sewer surcharge event on Fernwood Road due to high volumes of infiltration of rain into our sewer system. We're actively investigating this and looking at options. We are going to have to upsize this sewer line as development continues to happen in the Crestview area.

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We're gonna have more and more sewage to deal with in that corner of town, and we're gonna have to build a new sewer line. The sewer line we have cannot keep up with our growth. I have asked the rates commit the rates committee to give me an additional 50¢ a month so we can tackle this more quickly. Rather than doing it in four phases, I'd like to do over two years. I don't know what the end result will that of that will be, but I think you would agree that an extra 50¢ is probably better than spilling sewage on the street.

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Now I often focus on many, many good things that happen in the city, but I think it's important to cover the not so good things, and this is what I'm talking about. New development has added to the flow that is coming down from a traditional line, and let me see if my laser works. Is that showing up? Just pointed out. Okay.

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Stands I and for infiltration and inflow into our sewer system. And Rachel, can you go up and down Springbrook with the mouse to show the old line, the one that's going North south? Yep. See that line there? That is an older line and it's undersized and infiltration is coming in due to the older housing developments to the north, that is North Of 99.

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Now come down and go left and right across that black brown pipe at the bottom there. Now that is a pump sewer main, it's taking all of the sewage from the new development and it's joining into the Springbrook line. That means that when the North South line is heavily full of rainwater, it can't handle it and it pops the covers to that sewer line there. And whenever we have a really huge rain event, this is gonna keep happening, just so you know. So we have to upsize that sewer line from that junction on South.

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Old infrastructure, folks. Oh, could you get me the focus? Yep. Thank you. Now I've discovered by talking to Russ Thomas, the public works director, that this line was under consideration to be upsized from 2012 and for reasons that I don't know, it was not done.

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Perhaps the people in those days didn't want to spend the money on it. So I'm gonna take responsibility for this and this is what we're going to do. An idea has come out from Russ that we should consider trying to run a new sewer line down next to the airport along the landing strip. Basically, that is going through soil and not through road. Therefore, it's a lot less expensive than that zigzag path all the way down through that industrial development.

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This could make the whole thing cheaper. We are, however, probably still talking about $2,000,000 to build this new lane. We're gonna be working on it whether we get more money or not. HR report. HR collaborated with the library to put on the final lunch and learn of the year.

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Many, many recruitments were running during this period as you can see, and the library had lots of highlights in December. 400 kids attended the craft sale. 70 people joined the library to celebrate Jane Austen's 200 birthday in costume with readings, and special thanks to the Jane Austen players for their performance. Winter crafting at the library entertained over 60 people on Saturday, December 20. Community development.

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Here's just some of the highlights of the many things that community development has done. Calena occupancy certificates issued, staff continue to collaborate with OpenGov on system enhancements, that's our new permitting software, and the director appointed to was appointed to LOC Housing, Land Use and Community Development Policy Committee where he will continue to advocate for more local control and practical solutions. And in police events, shop with a cop occurred on Saturday 12/20. Officers shop with 30 kids at Fred Meyer, $6,000 in donations from residents and businesses, and, officer Anderson was sworn in 12:15 and will be attending the academy in January for sixteen weeks. And there is a picture of the young officer, and that is it for December's events.

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I love to tell you the good news, but sometimes not all the news is good. So we will be working on that sewer line and I am hopeful that the rates will vote as a little increase so we can do it a little faster. Any questions?

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I have a question. Which of those lines is going to be handling the new Colina Crossing population? Is that the same sewer line

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that we're replacing? So none of those lines are directly impacted by the Kalina work, it's more the apartment complex, it's Springbrook and all of that that's feeding into that forced main. And it's not that there's anything wrong with the forced main. It's a newer line. It's just that where it meets the old line, that's where the surcharge is happening at that right angle.

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Well, thank you for not asking us to continue to postpone the fix. Let's get it done and get back to normal work. So thank you very much, Will. Are there any more questions? Alright.

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By the way, how many people read Newsberg or read it this morning? This is Jesse over here. And a while back, Jesse challenged me to get on her spare wheelchair and drive from her place out by Springbrook out on Springbrook down here and back. Robin counselor Wheatley was with us. And, you know, I if you have side we all have sidewalks in front of our house.

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Please take a look at your sidewalks. And if you have bushes that are encroaching onto them, please trim them up and make it easier for people who are mobility challenged. I gotta admit that when the day was done, I felt like I'd accomplished something, but then I realized that, Jesse, it was just Tuesday. So I really didn't do anything special. But thanks for inviting me, and it was a good good experience. Right, Robin? So next, we have public comments. We've got there there's some people here that wanna talk to one of the issues later on, the the sister city. So those are not included here. What we have are people who are are doing general comments.

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There's quite a few of this, so we're gonna cut it to four minutes instead of five. I apologize, but we we have to keep the meeting moving. So the first person is Bill Cobb. So push the button and you'll see the red light come on, you're ready to go. Just like that.

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This is my first time at a city council meeting. I have to say, I've I've the the comments by Will were entertaining and informative. I I'm here just to say thank you. You all worked very hard to to make this this a wonderful city. In particular, I, what what you did for for the new Christmas, decorations this year are very much appreciated.

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And I understand you worked with the arch council, And, I just wanna say you did a darn good job. And let's get that new sewer line in. And that's all I have to say.

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Thank you. Thank you, sir. Next on the list, these are in no particular order. Hopefully, in the order you came in. Kathy Cook.

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No relation. Although I wish perhaps we were related. Anyway, I would like to take this opportunity to read my email that I submitted, but of course, I hit the send button last Thursday, was it, at 12:10, so it could not be in your packet. I apologize. Anyway, mayor Bill, Newburgh City Councilors, chief Kosmicki, and the entire Newburgh Police Department, I wanna thank you for this opportunity to share my thoughts.

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I wanna thank each of you for the accomplishments you have made and fine work you are doing to keep our city safe. Thanks to each of you. Our community is thriving and remains a safe place to live. Thank you for bringing Will Worthy on board. He seems to be a positive influence in our community and hopefully on the staff as well.

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Thank you for the admirable response time for our 911 calls. Thank you for planning to fix our roads in an organized manner. Thank you for managing our budget so wisely and working to make the city debt free. Thank you for cooperating with federal ICE operations as they may happen in our city. I trust in the knowledge that all of you have, especially our police officers, and fully support your stance on allowing them to protect us.

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I am grateful to all of you and how you are striving to keep Newburgh a wonderful place to live. Thank you all so much.

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Thank you very much. Would one of you like to address the the one mistake that she made?

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What mistake do I I'll I'll take that. So the mayor has asked me to address not really a mistake, just a slip of the tongue perhaps. We we actually, because of state sanctuary laws, don't coordinate directly with ICE. We don't we can't do that. It's it's state law, and and they have they do their thing, and we do ours.

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Thank you. Well, next is Jessica Yu. Hi, Jessica. Welcome back.

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One day, we'll get it right. Well, actually, I'm here to say something very similar to what was just said, specifically on the federal ICE enforcement. And I really do wanna thank the city council for replying to all my emails that I've been sending over the past month, including the mayor, including councilor Wheatley, including councilor Carmen. And I apologize if I pronounce anyone's name incorrectly. I welcome you to correct me.

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But and also, our police chief, Kasameki, and also, I know Simmons have also answered some questions that councilor Wheatley had posed. So I really do appreciate everyone sending their responses. And I just wanna say thank you for really committing to verify the identities of potential masked individuals when there's concerns about impersonation or kidnapping. I know that our city cannot interfere with any ICE enforcement activities, and I think just publicly committing to, like, if there's a reasonable fear, we will at least check on it is commendable because I think not a lot of cities were able to stand that firmly yet. So thank you for that.

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And I wanna say, chief Cosmckee, I just wanted to share kind of what he had told me because I know a lot of people have been wondering about this when I asked about, what the NDPD can do around situations that come up around ICE officers, and this is what he said. I would say that committee members can do two things if people are being taken into custody. One, document safely by recording from a distance, note descriptions of the ICE agents, and do not antagonize or disrupt lawful activity. Thank you for affirming that we can do this and document activity is one of our rights as The US citizens. And secondly, if someone legitimately believes a person is being kidnapped, then they should call 911.

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However, this would be a rare case. ICE or other government agents typically have markings that identify themselves. I appreciate that you say that people can still call 911. I will say based off our experiences, most agents don't have markings that identify themselves. They don't have, like, a uniform, unfortunately, like the NDPD does, which makes people actually trust in the force. But once again, appreciate you affirming that you will answer 911 calls. And then councilor Wheatley, you had shared with a community member, and I think councilor Kilberg too. Yes. I was like, I know she's here somewhere. Discussed with captain Simmons, like, I think probably, like, a month ago after we had provided testimony, so thank you for the follow through.

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And this is what captain Simmons had said. They do not let ICE use public property for information, jail use, or parking of their vehicles. If our police are called to an incident, they will ask for the agent's ID, and our officers simply verify they are valid ICE agents carrying out federal operations. If there is a situation that looks concerning, captain Simmons said to call the police, and they will check it out. I'll also say I don't think everyone knows exactly what, the NDPD is allowed to do, but this is kind of, like, what has been publicly said, and I'm most happy to say.

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And I wanna say again, thank you. I know it requires work to, like, find out answers. And I'm just wanna also mention, I will be sending out probably emails to everybody on the city council requesting to meet one on one. I know, councilor Carmen, you already said you were totally open to doing that, but I know that everyone has already said, like, one on one meetings work a lot better rather than this public city council meeting. So I will personally be shifting towards that. But thank you all for your time, and continue to listen to everyone in your community.

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Thank you. Next is Elaine Koscalla.

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Elaine. Welcome back.

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Thank you.

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I would like to start by requesting five minutes because I very carefully prepared five minutes. I I I I'd like literally, my ask of you are at the end, so I need to know whether I have five minutes or not.

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Elaine, everybody gets four minutes today. We try to be as accommodating as we possibly can. You're burning your time right now. Let's go ahead and and start.

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Okay. I I am not going to speak tonight, and I want but I do want to say this. It is not fair to people who've spent hours writing and curating to get down to five minutes to say then, Oh, I'm sorry, you have four minutes. You need to make that decision ahead of time. There needs to be something uniform, whatever it is. Okay? I will send you all what I have to say. It does have two asks. I will read the asks. Please, please, please know what is happening in our country and in our county.

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Know it. Know it all. We cannot afford for your knowledge to be incomplete. Second, please know your morals and your own lines. My own experience, and I have a degree in sociology, so I've studied this, is that we have spent the two presidencies of Trump having the line moved. And it's hard to notice. So please know your lines, know your morals, and stand there. And please hear from the people who are being affected.

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Thank you. The next is Margaret Sanborn.

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Hey. Good evening. I'm here to read a statement on behalf of Michael Roberts. He says, my name is Michael Roberts. I'm a resident of Newburgh, Oregon and the owner of Cream Northwest. I'm here today because I'm deeply concerned about the actions of ICE and the Department of Homeland Security in our community. I believe it is unacceptable for anyone, no matter their agency, to break into someone's home without a proper written warrant from a judge. When agents operate in masks or camouflage while armed, it creates fear and uncertainty. We have a right to know who's entering our homes and why, and there must be full accountability for their actions. Residents also deserve protection.

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How can we be certain that someone in camouflage carrying a weapon isn't simply taking someone from the street? Our safety, our sense of security, and our trust in law enforcement depend on transparency, accountability, and adherence to the law. As a member of this community, I urge the city council to take seriously the responsibility of ensuring that all agencies operating in Newburgh act lawfully and are held accountable for any abuse of power. We deserve to feel safe in our own homes, and it is your duty to help protect that right. Now, obviously, this is something that goes back to the previous comments, and, you know, I do appreciate, as the prior speakers have said, the actions that you have taken.

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And I do echo the comments, please do know where your lines are. Please look at what's happening in Minnesota right now, and please seriously consider what you would do if the level of escalation that has happened in Minnesota happens here. You know, if someone who looks like me has a gun put in her face by an ICE agent because I'm driving down the street and get caught up in an enforcement action. Am I gonna be shot? Is that how you want Newberg to be in the news?

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Because I'd rather not, but I'd rather not have Newburgh be in the news for that reason. But, you know, it could be. That's what I'm seeing looking at the news these days. I'm seeing that people are afraid. I'm seeing parallels not only to the Gestapo, which is a reasonable parallel, but I'm also seeing even stronger parallels to slave patrols prior to the civil war in this country, where people with a particular skin tone, with a particular accent, were asked to prove whether they were citizens, to prove their status.

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Now that's something that's probably not gonna happen to me because of my accent and because of the color of my skin, But it shouldn't happen to anyone in this country because of the constitutional rights that we all have. So I echo the request that you all think of your own lines and how you're representing us as your constituents. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next, have Mike Gunn. Welcome back, sir.

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Well, again, I'm not here as an attorney tonight. I was here, I don't know when it was, six weeks ago, a month, spoke to you people. As I said before, these people have a right to their opinion under the first amendment of the constitution. I mean, let's let's just say I strongly disagree with their views, but I I cannot believe what they come up here and want you people to to to do. You know? It it reminds me you know, I'm an attorney. I've been an I I was a litigator. When you're in court, somebody comes in, tells a judge they want them they want them to rule a certain way. The judge says, well, what's your authority on this? What's the law?

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Well, I don't know. I mean, this reminds me of that. All this all these people do and this is you know, they have a they have a right to come in here and say what their opinion is. They don't have a right to tell you or suggest or whatever that somebody should impede ICE, should the police our police are supposed to go out there and confront ICE with what they're doing. Okay? I think mister Rogers will tell you or mister Walker. I'm sorry. Not mister Rogers. Will tell you that the constitution says that the federal government has an exclusive right to immigration laws. Okay?

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Unfortunately, this state is a sanctuary state. The police are not allowed to cooperate with ICE, but they are not allowed to impede them, etcetera. And what they want you to do and all these all these politicians confront ICE, get in their way, etcetera, what do they think is gonna happen? Somebody's gonna get shot or something. Exactly what happened in Minnesota.

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Then what happened two or three days later? Three Venezuelan illegals, friend of Aragua, come out and start beating on an ice agent with a shovel and a broomstick, etcetera. I mean, this thing, as I told you before, has gotten completely out of hand. And a couple years ago, there was a city council in a suburb of Chicago. It was a completely progressive city council, one conservative on there. And the city council wanted to be a sanctuary city. They wanted all the people to take in these illegals who now have no right to be in this country. And the conservative says, okay. I think that's a good idea. Let's just have a sign up here.

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Everybody put their name up there who will take them into your house, etcetera, and let them live with you. You know how many people signed up? Zero and not a one on that city council. K? I don't understand what they want you to do. They want you to tell the police to go out there and confront ICE.

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Why don't they make this to be fucking safe? What don't you understand about we want the city

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Hey, sir. You're out of order.

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Do do you have any time allocated to use, sir?

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Hold on. Hold on.

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It's things like this. Okay? That's what I'm saying. That lady there has a First Amendment right. She has a T shirt. White white fight fascism. I would venture to say she probably has no idea what fascism is. These ICE officers are sworn to uphold the law.

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Excuse me just a minute. Please, let's not make personal I'm not making any personal accusations against anybody.

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Wanna have a

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conversation with And if you're in the audience, please

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Glad to. Please

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I thought we were all anti fascist.

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Thank you. Go ahead. Babe. All these IAS officers are doing is enforcing the law that congress passed as I told you before when I was here before. If the if if people that don't like that have their congressmen change the law. Okay? It it's the same thing as you tell these police officers here. Don't go arrest somebody because we don't like what that law is. Okay? That's not what their duty is, and this country is going to hell, pardon the language, right now with this situation. K? That's all I

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have to say.

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You're not you're not ready?

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Okay. What are we doing for Tom? Started first. That was all. We have we have a little more room now. Elaine, you can have four minutes if you want. Thank you.

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I can she can have one of mine. Thank

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you. Thanks.

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Everybody, stability, please.

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Please. I am here because some people in my local community as well as my fellow Americans are hurting. Some are flat out scared. Some have been physically hurt. Many are experiencing trauma in various forms from our government. And I'm speaking to you because you're the local government. I'm alarmed at the demands and rhetoric of our president and his cabinet. This is me personally. I am alarmed. Please listen to me.

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I'm alarmed at what is happening in our country and in Yamhill County, which I am very aware isn't as bad as some places. And I'm here because a lot of people don't seem to know what's going on in our country, let alone the county. The last time I spoke to you, it was about the process of dehumanization. Dehumanization is a process. It's a verbal process of repeatedly calling people, humans, something that isn't human, like garbage.

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It's the psychological process of demonizing the enemy, making them seem less than human and hence not worthy of humane treatment. Dehumanizing often starts with creating an enemy image. I know it's hard for all of us to think that we could ever get to the place where we would exclude people from equal moral treatment, from our basic moral values. But we're fighting biology. We're hardwired to attach meaning to words we hear, and boy, have we heard a lot of words.

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Trump has been spewing dehumanizing statements since he began his run for president back in 2015. We have all been the recipients of his gross and harmful rhetoric. I have a student who has listened to the constant stream of put downs and or dehumanization about her parents' country of origin who wrote last year, this was last year, the American dream is not for me. For white people, the fear his rhetoric has created has justified violence and revenge against enemies. Trump is now openly saying that the only thing that can stop him is himself, not Congress, not the Constitution, not the American people, not even God.

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This is a quote. Yeah. There is one thing, my own morality, my own mind. It is the only thing that can stop me. Okay. Let's be clear about this. This is claiming all power. All power, no checks, no accountability. That is the definition of somebody who is a dictator with fascist intent. I'm going to explain this anti fascist shirt.

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Fascism is a far right authoritarian political ideology that prioritizes the nation or race, and in The United States, it prioritizes white Christian nationalism, which I would like to point out is not about following Jesus Christ. It's about political power and a way to claim one right way. Fascism pushes for a strong centralized autocratic government, dictatorial leadership, aggressive nationalism, and the violent suppression of opposition, often using propaganda and scapegoating. Demeaning people and dehumanizing people is scapegoating. It also has, a desire for empire building, which we've seen recently, and national dominance.

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Did you all read the the letter Trump wrote to Norway about Greenland? I don't have time to go there. Yet we hear people saying how safe we are. You know what? I feel safe too. I have called Newburgh my home and feel like it's my home for thirty years. I have family that settled this area. Haworth or Hayworth, that's my relative's, the street name. Thank you. Thank you for keeping us safe.

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And guess what? That is not the point. This is a room full of people who are safe. The people who don't feel safe don't feel comfortable coming here, and believe me, they are out there. And telling them they should feel safe doesn't work, not when they're carrying such shame and hurt.

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It just doesn't. You guys are public servants. I am here because you do matter. Every single one of you matters. I already did my asks, and there's a reason I did those particular asks: because we are constantly being bombarded with racism, with taking entire groups of people and saying every single one of them is garbage, that their country, and forgive my language, is a shithole country. I am quoting the president.

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Thank you. I was really hoping that you would solve that life long question. Is it Haworth or is it Hayworth?

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My family says Haworth England. Says Haworth. There's a Haworth England. The person is named after with with Hayworth.

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Thank you.

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Others all of our problems have such huge

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Next on our agenda is a presentation from Twalight Valley Fire and Rescue. Sorry? No. Do you oh, yeah. Come on up. I'm sorry.

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Sorry, guys. Calling that EDA privilege card here. I won't be long. I didn't write anything in advance at all. Okay. That's kind of not true. I wrote bullet points because because I needed to.

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Some of you have

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seen the the article. I wanted to say thank you to each and absolutely every one of you. Even if you weren't on the walk with us, I know that information and stuff that was shared is going to make an impact. There's no way it it won't. I know that, and I really appreciate that. And I really want you guys to know, your community knows this. We know I'm not quiet. We know I'm consistent, and we know I've got the memory of a goldfish, so I have to tell the truth. Right? Like what I wanted to actually touch on tonight a little bit was where's those notes?

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I heard the council clearly. You need actionable items that you can do actionable things with. You need those things. I hear that. I respect it. I I hear it. I'm hoping that as a community, we can maybe get a little bit more networking as to if you're interested in something, we know you're the dude that we need to reach out to in the community so that we can look online and know instead of the phone call tag and those kinds of things. Like, those kinds

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things count as ADA, and they count for community. So, hopefully, we can look at a couple things like that. Core ADA, in plain language, isn't about being covered. It exists because disability is situational, a variable, and often invisible. Many people who need access will never self identify as disabled.

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I've been disabled since I was 13. I was late 30s, before I ever admitted to anybody anything. I used to pride myself to not present as disabled. That's the stigma we carry. Policies that require live presence filter out real people, too: parents, caregivers, sick people, injured, overwhelmed, not just bad actors.

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Written comments are access. Written comments being excluded from the spoken record is not neutral. It removes access for people who cannot reliably attend, speak live, or regulate on demand. Hi. That is a process barrier, not a safety measure. Safety versus access. No one is asking counsel to read threats or abuse. I have said this from the day I requested this. Screening already exists. This is about who gets heard, not who gets protected.

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I've survived a 2,000 pound car hitting me. I've had beyond the death threats. I'm familiar with death threats. I'm familiar with generational trauma. I'm familiar with being so frustrated of being labeled and working and doing everything you can and trying to hold all the threads.

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I know those feelings, and I know that everybody in our community community is feeling it no matter what side they're on. I can feel it, and I feel like we're missing this this link to remind us it's okay to listen and to breathe and that feelings aren't an attack. It's a form of communication, and we can't all be aware of the same things the same time, in the same place, in the same ways, with the same education or the same connection. Like, life doesn't work like that. Humans don't work like that.

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We need to remember we're human, and it's okay to disagree. It's not okay to dehumanize people because you don't agree or you don't understand. Ask. Clarifying questions could save us so much time, so much energy. Thank you, kindly. I'm still working on the watch me stuff to be concluded.

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Thank you, Jesse. Now I think we're ready for the presentation from Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue. I personally have been looking forward to this for some time since I've known that this is going on to see what you guys are up to.

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Down arrow for Jessie. Perfect.

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Thank you. Alright. Good evening, mayor Rasiker and city council members. Thank you for having us this evening. I am Corinne Hayning, public affairs officer with Swalton Valley Fire and Rescue.

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And I am Heidi X. I'm the director of logistics.

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So we are so pleased to be able to provide you an update of the upcoming rebuild for Station 20.

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There we go.

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Most, if not all of you, are already familiar with Newberg's long and proud history of fire service in the community with an organized fire department dating back to 1898. This station, which we are right next to, was originally built in 1940 and has undergone four major remodels dating as far back as the late nineteen fifties and most recently in 2012. The station is rich with a history of selfless service and connection to the community from generations of volunteer and career firefighters for whom it has served as their firehouse. Please note I don't know if this has a laser on it, but on the far right kinda lower corner, the bell, if you please note the bell, it has quite a story of its own, and we'll go into it in a bit more detail shortly. But for now, director Hicks will discuss temporary station locations and upcoming site preparations.

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Thank you. Are you gonna talk with me? Yes. I can. Perfect. So in order to staff for this station, there's quite a few staff at the station. So it's gonna take three temporary site locations for us to staff all of the apparatus and all of the people. What you're seeing here is a station modular unit. This is pretty traditional to any modular unit you'd see, like, in a in a park or something like that. However, it's specially designed without a master bedroom to allow for the bathrooms to have single use and the bedrooms to be individual. So we have it am I too far away?

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Basically, just to make sure of me.

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Okay. Perfect. Move it up here. So this is an example of a four bedroom unit, which is at our Station 35 in King City. We're going to have a six bedroom unit on the corner of 2nd And Blaine for the staff so that we keep this the unit right here next to where they normally respond.

47:40 – 48:1413

This is going to be the best outcome to make sure that we do not impact service during the rebuild of the station. So you're gonna see a modular unit very similar to this on that location. There will be another unit like this on station twenty one's location, and that is to service both the medic unit and then for the station when we go to remodel that station. So it's going to be built big enough to house twenty one's crew as well when we get ready to remodel that station. And then, also, it's going to have some apparatus, like, steel modular buildings as well for the apparatus to be parked in during the day.

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Next slide. So our new station design, we identified 10 stations in our training center that were ready for rebuild for various reasons. One of them being this was built in 1940. So as you can imagine, even though it'd gone through remodels, it was really due for major renovation. We looked at actually just doing some major improvements to the station, and what we found out is to get it to the seismic code we really wanted it to be for the safety of the staff, it was better for us to rebuild the station.

48:45 – 49:1013

More cost effective, and we could get a better flow and layout if we rebuilt the station. So the decision was made to go ahead and rebuild this station. This station is going to be actually our largest station that we're building to date within the district, and it is going to have nine individual bunk rooms. It's going to have, individual bathrooms. So rather than have traditional men's and women's locker rooms, they're all individual bathrooms.

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And then it's gonna have adequate decon space, upgraded HVAC systems in order to pressurize the air so we can keep what potential contaminants would come back from a scene going out of the building and not coming into the living space. So a lot of stuff is happening with this station that we would not be able to do in a remodeled station. Here are some more. We use something that we called trauma informed design. So as everybody is probably aware, our fire service is actually exposed to many different toxins in their environment or could be exposed to those, and so they're more likely to to get cancer than other types of industries.

49:48 – 50:2413

So therefore, one of the big focuses is to create an environment that provides the proper decontamination that they need when they come back from fire scenes. This station is fully equipped with a, upgraded decontamination area, an upgraded turnout locker space, upgraded shower suites for decon after these events, and then also, areas and spaces that allow flexibility. So, everybody processes trauma in a different way. So, we want to allow those different flexibilities. Some people want cold and quiet and, kind of like I want to self reflect to to process this.

50:24 – 50:4013

Some people want people around them. This new station is going to provide all of those different elements. It's going to provide spaces for them to to get together as a group. It's also going to provide spaces and quiet rooms when needed to be able to get that, quiet time that's needed for for recovery.

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Do you wanna mention the shift in footprint?

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Absolutely. So one of the things that you'll notice if you've, been to the station or walked by the station, all of the bays are one way only of the station. Our design is to try to get pull through bays. Right? This means that they don't have to back into those spaces.

50:57 – 51:3313

Currently, right now, we've we partner with, some of our agencies, like the police, and we recognize there even can be some opportunity when it comes to responses with us both coming out the same way or us trying to back in while the police is trying to respond. This station is actually being turned 90 degrees, and it allows for pull through. So we actually are doing our emergencies out the other side than the police are doing their emergency calls. So there's less conflict. So when we're returning, we can obviously yield right away to the police when they have their lights on and they're trying to go to their calls. So it just provides a safer environment for exit and return to the station.

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Alright. And before we get into some of the interior renderings, I wanted to take a moment to share a little bit more about the bell. And this text that I'm about to share comes from the plaque in this image. It's on the far right, but it's also outside of our station right now as well. So in 1898, the same year that an ordinance was passed forming Newburgh Fire Department, the city of Newburgh ordered the bell from a company in Cincinnati.

52:05 – 52:3912

Newburgh's bell arrived into Portland by boat along with 12 other bells. The cost of the bell at the time I heard mayor and city manager Worthy speak earlier today. I thought you would appreciate this. The cost of the bell was $170 and was paid for by local fundraising, including an ice cream social that was put on by members of host company number one. And according to the Newburgh graphic, the social raised $25 and was so successful, they ran out of ice cream and had to churn more.

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So when and at at the time, in 1898, the bell was first mounted. You can kind of see it. You'll have to stop by for folks in the audience, you'll have to stop by to look at the plaque, but there's an image of where the bell was originally housed in the cupola. But when a fire occurred, the first firefighter arriving to the station would ring the bell to alert other firefighters of the emergency, and this is listed on the plaque and according to one of the former fire chiefs of Newburgh, Clarence Heater. But we just we we recognize and honor that saying goodbye to Station 20 is bittersweet for the historic presence that it's had in the community for so long.

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And as the current captain, Aaron Zorowski, said in a recent Newsberg article that the spirit of those who worked and lived in the station remains strong. So director Hicks will share more about how the project team and architects have designed thoughtful interior and exterior features that will incorporate historical elements like the bell. And also in this upper right corner, you can see an exam rendering of what the entryway or the foyer will look like that will also feature some historical elements to exhibit.

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Yeah. If you walk into the station now, there's a nice bookshelf that houses many different articles, and we wanted to make sure that part of this design allowed them for continuing to display that because of the rich history that people have. When developing fire stations in general, but these ones specifically, we do have an internal steering committee team that's composed of line staff of various levels. That steering committee provides input on things like flow, functionality, response time impacts, and all of that stuff. As well, we then have an architect team and a construction team that work very diligently on this.

54:45 – 55:2713

We also have a capital projects team that has spent many hours at conferences and fire design, like forums to try to find out more information on the latest and what's happening in the world of fire and how are we progressing in making our fire stations safer for staff. So what you're gonna see here are some elements of these designs. So creating, again, entryways that are not only inviting and warm that display articles that have history, but also secure for firefighters as well. So all of the asp the components of these and aspects to this station have this heightened security element to them. So we just recently switched to a new security system, which has given us the ability to make it even safer within fire service.

55:28 – 56:1213

So that is all incorporated in here. As you'll see, there's open base spaces. No longer do you see turnout gear stored inside the apparatus space. That is on purpose. Although I know it's kind of an icon to walk by the station and see those. Those turnouts, we want to have them in a different area. One, we don't wanna have them out for things like theft that could possibly happen, but also because we want to be able to turn the air on those and be able to make sure they're as clean as possible for the firefighters. So they have their own room now going forward. You'll also see the day room down on the bottom left, and that's again where they might rest, recuperate, process some paperwork. Now being in the world of technology, a lot of that is done from from the day room or at the kitchen table instead of an office space like it was traditionally done.

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The kitchen's on the bottom right, so we're making sure it's right sized to be able to house the meals for crews, especially a station of this size. They tend to like to eat as well.

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So imagine

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that. So do I. Also very important that our firefighters are fit for duty. So one of the elements, with health, mental health and safety and well-being, is to include a gym adequate for them to continue to do, workout activities. You will see kind of the the bunk room on the left hand side going to individual use instead of shared bunk room spaces, providing privacy, allowing women, maybe that are in the field that need to, maybe pump milk or that sort of thing.

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It allows them for some privacy to do that. Not all the stations from the past are designed in a way to support that. So very much, we're looking for stations that are gender neutral and help support anybody who's coming in to work in fire service in the future. The bottom middle picture is kind of like, the what you'll see walking down the main hallway. Those are pass through lockers. They allow for the crew coming on to place their things into the locker without interrupting a crew that maybe had a really late call and is trying to get that forty five minute nap in before they leave work. So, again, rest, recovery, very important. They don't get a lot of rest. Right? So when they can, we wanna make sure it's as good as as good a sleep as they can get so they can respond to the next call.

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And as a little additional bonus information

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Yes. Bonus information. We actually did purchase Station 22, which has been named the Chehalem Station. It is on the corner of DOP and North Valley Road. It is a three acre, I guess, property with a home on it. The home will actually be converted into the first station twenty two fire station. So we are working right now to budget to get some funds in order to do that. It has to meet the same requirements as any other fire station, so it does take a little bit of upgrading. We'll be working with the city again. Like, they get to see us many times right now in the planning area, Station 2021, And 22.

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But we did purchase it. We're super excited about it. We are beginning just some basic work with all of the planning phase. We are trying to store some items there. We've got some moves that are gonna happen, so it also makes a good adequate storage space.

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We're we're happy. Actually, I can there'll be a sign coming soon. We just Yeah. We just got word today that our sign is complete that says future site of Station 22. With that, we're happy to take any questions.

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I know we'd all like to hear the timeline. When when are we getting started?

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So the temporary station, actually, you should see DIRTT start to move, this next month. So just the February, you should start seeing DIRTT move for the temporary stations. And then the permanent station on the same location, that is probably gonna start April. So complete demolition, and then we'll rebuild.

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I'm just curious. What is the what is the cost of having you you had mentioned, if I heard you right, that there was individual, like, lockers and showers and stuff like that. What is the cost of doing that, instead of having women's lockers, showers, and men's lockers and showers?

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Yeah. It's actually less expensive. There's a little more plumbing that has to be ran, but it takes up less real estate. So we're actually able to get, the shower suites into less space than what the locker rooms typically take up. So it actually does condense the amount of space needed to accommodate that and then provides more for, you know, maybe people who don't have a don't identify as a certain gender, don't feel comfortable. Even if they do identify, maybe don't feel comfortable changing in an open space. It just provides a a more personal experience to be more comfortable.

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Smallest staffing, like being able to move stuff.

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Yeah. That's a good point. Karim brings up, one of the issues that we do run into right now, most of our men's and women's locker room, the women's ones are much smaller, which means it limits how many women we can actually put at that station. So then you're choosing and picking the crews that you can actually place there based on their gender, which is not what we wanna do. We wanna base it off of their technical skills and abilities and what's needed for response. So by having them gender neutral, you no longer have to worry about the gender of people being placed at the station based off the locker room.

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How many crew on for, like, a shift? How many crew right now do you have? Is there enough just to man one truck or or is it two trucks? Or how many do you have on on shift at age?

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Phil can probably answer this better than I can. Yeah. Right now, we do have two apparatus and a medic. So there's four on each apparatus, four staff, and then two on a medic. So that puts 10 there right now. And then there can be day day staff also that just respond during day shift hours that are in a car, and that would add a one, but they don't sleep overnight. But 10 are staff there right now.

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Thank you very much. You're very thorough. We appreciate it. The next on our agenda is an update from the Newberg Workforce Housing Consortium concerning their Hive project. I see Ryan is here to present.

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Give us two seconds to get a text set up.

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I didn't recognize you back there, Nathan.

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Okay. Oh,

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good. I was told there wouldn't be any homework.

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Who told you that? Not me.

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Welcome. Good to see you guys. Thank you.

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While this is booting up, thank you, mayor, city council, city officials. My name is Ryan Olson. I'm working with the Missing Middle Housing Fund and the Housing Consortium of Newburgh. And we've actually got something exciting to share tonight that I think, every will everyone will feel good about. Oh, I think Yeah.

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Is it gonna work?

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Looks like it's Do we

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do we have the technology?

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It should work. Yep. There it is. I'll get it.

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So the Newberg Workforce Housing Consortium was formed with the large employers in Newberg, and the intention was to create more mid priced workforce housing. And so they work with SEDCOR and representative Sharf and managed to raise $3,000,000, to move that forward. The missing middle housing fund is a steward of that. And so we've worked to come up with ideas to get mid priced housing in Newburgh. And so today, we'll give you a little bit of the agenda.

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It's Hive. It's the housing innovation village experience, and it will be a home show that will open in Newburgh next fall. And the entire focus is housing innovation that can ultimately lead to mid price housing at scale. We can't hand to make our way into cheaper housing. You know, it just doesn't work.

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So we've got I'll go over the development map and the units and some of the innovation companies. And then we've got a couple guests who are also part of Hive, Adrian with Cedarstone and Nathan with Mods PDX, and they'll be speaking towards workforce innovation. So we're really trying to to look at all the quadrants of what it takes to create housing scale. So so, Hive, I'm gonna share a bit of the origin story about this. So I've been in construction my entire life, you know, developing, building, startups.

1:05:45 – 1:06:2515

And when you start thinking about how to get housing that's more affordable, you realize, you know, we have a ton of labor constraints. For years, kids didn't go into the trades. It's really expensive when you had to make things. It's really wasteful. So, you know, about a year ago, I as I thought about, like, how do we get housing out there? And how do we give these startups a chance to to show their technology? And the idea of Hive came around, which is housing innovation, village experience. And so this is going to kinda bring together different innovators. We've got cross laminated timber. We've got CLT.

1:06:25 – 1:07:0715

We've got steel noncombustible modular. We've got geopolymer concrete that's gonna be assembled by drones. So it's the first in the country of really innovation home show that's real. It's not an exhibition in a, you know, the convention center. These are real. They're permitted, and we're pretty excited. So we looked for months to find a piece of land that we thought we could fit some units on that that we could showcase these. And we finally found one that we've got right now, and it's currently in development. And this is at 3509 North College Street. So it's a flag lot behind there.

1:07:07 – 1:07:3915

And so we're working to do a 10 unit community. You don't see on this slide, but there is two parking spaces per unit, in addition to bicycle parking. So many different technologies. You know, we've got automated construction, carbon negative concrete. Most of these will all be off-site fabrications, like cross laminated timber, kit of parts off-site, mass plywood modular that will come in and install in a couple days, steel noncombustible modular.

1:07:39 – 1:08:0315

So we're pretty excited to show this off. And and most of the units are between eight and about 1,400 square feet. We're intending these to sell in the 3 and 400 thousands and really targeting middle income. So eighty to one twenty AMI. So this is a little bit of a sampling of some of the renderings of what you're going to see out there.

1:08:04 – 1:08:4915

It's a little bit more we're speaking to the future. So it's a little bit more modern aesthetic, and it's centered around a community courtyard. And this, I can also email to anybody that wants this slideshow and happy to answer questions later. So one of the things we look at with the middle housing fund is how do we innovate in product design and assembly? That would be construction innovation. How do we innovate in financing and funding, regulations and policy, and workforce human capital? And the neat thing about this is it kinda brings all those together. So at the end of the day, the intention is is some of these concepts will go to scale. Some of these will make it. Right?

1:08:49 – 1:09:0715

But if we are not giving innovation a try, if we're not saying, hey, guys. We got your back. Let's let's do this together. And I do wanna express some gratitude to folks at the city that have been really supportive of this so far. You know, we're trying to do something really hard, innovation and middle income housing.

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I get I don't know why I signed up for this some days. I'm like, just a glutton for poor judgment. So I'll send this out, to everybody that looks at it, and this talks about some of the companies that are gonna be involved in it. And then we had our ceremonial groundbreaking on December 5, and this got members of the community together. Our vendors, some government officials as well showed up, but city officials.

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This is a cute little picture here of us. And this was really kind of just starting to tell the story. It wasn't the formal actually, we're putting infrastructure in, but it was like, this is gonna be real now. Like, we have a piece of land. We've got an amazing architectural engineering team together. Like, it's it's happening. Milestones, we're working on land use submittals to go in in February. We'd love to be able to start site work and utility construction in May, June, and be start home construction in June, July. The neat thing about these is because they're off-site and modular, some of these will be start to finish in two weeks. Right?

1:10:21 – 1:10:5315

Some will be three weeks. Most everything will go from zero to move in in under a month. Right? So it's it's changing our typical construction schedules. And then the intention is in September, mid September, early October, that we open this to the public. And it will be a street of dream style show. It'll be open for probably three weekends, probably three three day weekends to the public, and it's the first of its kind. And I think the neat thing about it is if we can pull this off, this can scale. This can be repeated. Right?

1:10:53 – 1:11:2915

So we're we're really excited to bring this to Newberg and share this and and realizing that it's all of us together that are gonna solve this. You know? There's no silver bullet of some developer or builder that's gonna solve our mid middle housing crisis and make mid price housing work at scale. So that is my allotted time. So introduce Nathan Young. He's gonna talk to you about workforce development, which is a little more piece of what we're doing here. So arrows arrows down. Mhmm.

1:11:29 – 1:11:5116

Good evening. Thank you for having us. I'm Nathan Young, CEO of ModsPDX and also CEO of Home Modular. We've been doing modular construction for a little over sixteen years, and we're super excited to be working in the high project with Ryan. We've been to a number of the missile middle housing funds events that they've had.

1:11:51 – 1:12:2716

And one of the things that has always stuck with me is Nathan Wildfire, who's the director of it, always talks about those four quadrants that Ryan talked about briefly there. And it's being very difficult in construction when we think about all the elements that actually goes into place to try to create affordable housing or middle housing. We don't do affordable, but we're very focused right now on trying to see how we can create workforce housing that people can actually afford for the next generation. I have three daughters. I'm very concerned about how they're gonna be able to buy a house as I'm sure many people in this room are when they think about the next generation and the cost of housing.

1:12:27 – 1:13:1316

Our focus is trying to figure out how we can implement new technologies and no parts and pieces together to be able to create a more efficient means to produce housing. We started looking at off-site construction sixteen years ago, but at that time, we were still doing more of a boutique process. We weren't necessarily understanding the means of manufacturing and how we could truly lower cost through standardization and production. The last couple years, we've implemented mass plywood panel, which is a specific product made here in Oregon out of Lyons by Ferris. By integrating that product into our system, it streamlined our entire approach for understanding how to be able to create different typologies, different forms of housing from multifamily to single family to ADUs, and constrain the design team so that we could become more efficient.

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The same time we did that, we launched Hone. Hone was our IP or our intellectual property for all the information that we were gathering together. But when we started to think about building the same thing over and over again, I realized there was a great opportunity for us to train the next generation. Back in June, we launched our first cohort of 12 students for a ten week program where we taught them a little bit of everything about construction. The idea was to be able to get them to understand all the facets of how to build and create.

1:13:45 – 1:14:2716

When Ryan approached me about the Hyve project back in October, we brought two of our students from our cohort together, and we're actually running a design cohort right now with them. So they've been designing the very homes that we're gonna be building in the Hyde project. As the developer, I'm gonna donate one of the lots to building to scale, and we're gonna run a cohort that's gonna go throughout the duration of it. So we're gonna have a group of students that are gonna actually build the modular in the shop, then they're gonna do the site work, and then they're gonna do the final installation. But more importantly, from the very beginning, we've had students working on the designs and understanding how how you have to design manufacturing and constructability for Gurley and start to lower costs.

1:14:29 – 1:15:0916

So the three cohorts will actually be the physical elements of building the units and constructing them. These are just some great pictures from our last cohort that we ran. We didn't have a specific modular project for them to do at the time, but we taught them a lot about the passion for the built environment and understanding how they could change the physical realm just by understanding a little more about the construction processes. What we've learned as somebody that's been in the industry their entire lives is the way that we have to integrate and deep and reach the next generation is much different than the way I was taught. So I was yelled at and screamed at and stuff was thrown and and you just kinda worked your way through attrition of understanding how to be in the trades.

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But that's not a very proficient way for us to increase the workforce that we so desperately need. In order for us to lower the cost of housing, we have to use alternate means and methods as well as increase the number of students that we can have or or employees that we can have that are excited about building again and excited about what they can do for a long term long term career. One of my interesting things is I was talking to a a politician not too long ago and telling them about the concept of a journeyman. The real essence of a journeyman means that you can take that trade anywhere. You can go anywhere and get a job.

1:15:42 – 1:16:0816

So if we teach somebody here, they can go anywhere in The United States. They can go anywhere in the world. Because once you understand the means of putting things together, it's applicable across all platforms. And so that's one of the things that we're really trying to instill in the next generation is the passion for understanding that you can build and continue to build, and that that building that you do will help our community. And we're hoping that you guys will embrace as you can have done so far, but continuing to embrace the development of the Hive project.

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Thank you, Nathan.

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Hi. My name is Adrian Feynman. I am a cofounder of Cedarstone. We are one of the six companies, six builders involved in Hive, and we're coming together to push the boundaries of construction. We are trying to fully address how to build at scale affordable, comfortable, healthy, dignified, beautiful homes for everyday people.

1:16:47 – 1:17:2317

And it does require innovation. The technology is there. It just requires people to collaborate and help each other make it actually happen, and we're getting very close, And Hive will move the needle. I've gotten to know the owners of these other five companies over the past year, and the Hive project is an incredible convergence of six different stories, six different reasons driving these entrepreneurs who are taking tremendous risk because they truly believe that the world needs this work. These are not companies driven by profit.

1:17:23 – 1:18:1317

This is work driven by people who want to leave the world better than they found it. Cedarstone is a native owned company, and one of the principles embedded in how we operate is the concept that the world that we reach born into is a result of decisions made by people in the past, and in the same way, the decisions that we make today impact our future generations. Our mentors and elders also taught us to walk with a drum in one hand and a computer in the other. And this is about bringing really human values and leveraging innovation and technology to make the world more beautiful. Of all building types, the house has tremendous potential to change lives.

1:18:13 – 1:18:4417

It's the environment where we raise our children, we nurture them, we nurture ourselves. A home can provide supplemental income for people. It can offer intergenerational wealth. A home can impact physical health by addressing things like mold and off gassing, and it can impact our relationships with each other with how well it does or doesn't support family life and how it supports our own self identity. This project will be a legacy project for the entire country.

1:18:44 – 1:19:1117

Many of the builders, including Cedars Stone, already have the attention of senators and members of congress. Individually, most of us have already built these homes and successfully demonstrated that this is a game changer. That part is done, so we know that the homes will be wonderful. The challenge is bringing it to scale, as they've said, and doing that part alone has not been making sense. So that's why we're supporting each other.

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And this showcase will not only help us, but it will honestly be a breath of fresh air for everyone witnessing and who can celebrate this positive story of collaboration and problem solving and the result of healthy community making. We do need your help, and we need your support. You are one of those four pillars of how we make this happen, and we would be very happy to be working with you all. And I didn't really flip through my slides as I spoke, so I'll just flip through them quickly now. Thank you.

1:20:03 – 1:20:3315

Yeah. So in closing, thank you all for for listening to us share this with you, and we look forward to providing you updates, along the way. This is this is pretty audacious and crazy considering the time frames in which we have to do this. And the scariest thing for us is this. If you're gonna open a show to the public and share it it's Oregon. I grew up here. Nobody's going to a home show in December. Right? It's outside. So we have this this little weather window late September to maybe mid October.

1:20:33 – 1:20:5915

And if we miss that window, you've gotta push it out to, like, next May, which then said core is upset. Everybody's, like, heart's broken. So that's this is our come together, and everyone here that I've spoken with about it has been really supportive so far. We look forward to that continued support and bringing what we think is one of the neatest things ever to Newburgh, like, first in the country. It's pretty cool. So thank you.

1:21:011

Hold on. I think I see Elise is online. She has a question for you. Hi, Elise. Hey.

1:21:09 – 1:21:5918

Sorry I'm not in person, but, awesome presentation. And I just wanted to obviously, I strongly support all this work, and it's really great to see a project coming to fruition. So, one of my main question is just, do you see any opportunities? I know that the council and our, incredible SDC committee, you know, have revamped our SDC structure, but I'm wondering if there are other, opportunities you see to streamline engineering, permitting process, for, identical or similar style homes. You know, what's your, I guess, dream city to do business in and what what would those, you know, top three things be?

1:21:5918

Just I think it's important for us to kinda think since we have a city manager that's super creative and innovative, what we could potentially do for future projects.

1:22:09 – 1:22:4515

Well, I think we've approached this with the city, with community development as a pipe. Right? Like, making change is, like, scary. So if we say we're gonna try this once, right, then we're gonna see if it works. And if we do, we might be able to create processes and systems that will streamline, you know, the development and plan review. Cool. Maybe master plans are approved so they can be repeated with very quick building reviews. I think STCs are a tough one. You know, Portland, I don't know how they got all the money to wipe their STCs out for a couple thousand units. STCs are tough.

1:22:46 – 1:23:2815

Yeah. I don't know. Sauce there. I think changing some of the STCs to, like, 1,200 square foot and under homes for a reduction would be huge. It's hard to put a family in a thousand square feet sometimes. So there's there's things like that that we we wanna continue the discussion on if we're if we're going to scale it. And the neat thing, if we can replicate this, it's taking these underutilized lots. Right? There's and there's a lot of obscure flag lot type stuff in Newburgh where we can put more units in without running more infrastructure. Right? Like, it's already sewer in College Street. You know? We're getting 10 more units in. It's it's pretty neat. So it's kinda like two I can think of.

1:23:28 – 1:23:5716

Yeah. I would also say it's understanding the the public work aspect because as we do these flag lots, we have to run some form of public utilities to the back to be able to make it work. So it's working with the city, but Scott Siegel has been amazing the whole department as far as working with us to date and making things approachable, and they're setting it up to try to work with us. So I would say as a developer that's been developing for a long time, it's it's been a breath of fresh air to work with the jurisdiction that wants to help us.

1:23:5718

Yay. Awesome. Thanks so much.

1:24:024

You're welcome. Could you repeat exactly what you just said about what it's like to work with our planning department rather than other municipalities? Oh,

1:24:1515

no. Okay.

1:24:164

We've all heard that.

1:24:17 – 1:24:4715

Well, I I will share that AKS Engineering who we're working with on land use, and I think they're at the top of their game. And they've said, we've had discussions that they've not ever dealt with a city so far that was this open to collaboration. Right? We're trying to do something hard. Like, cottage cluster, middle housing land division, record time, and and it's been a breath of fresh air. Like, there's a ton of gratitude. I don't wanna, like, shine too much spotlight on Scott, but it's very much

1:24:471

appreciated. Yeah.

1:24:5215

10 units of housing by September. I

1:24:564

just have friends in the business, and they

1:24:572

all would say that every city is the hardest city to deal with the better.

1:25:0115

That Newburgh is?

1:25:021

No. All of them.

1:25:0315

Oh. All cities. Well, we all complain as developers. Like, that's what we're programmed to do. Right?

1:25:0916

Yeah. But you guys are doing the land use, the building permits simultaneously. That's never been done before. I mean, that's never Yeah. That's not something that we've ever experienced.

1:25:1715

And and I think too, just, Scott, it's still

1:25:19 – 1:25:3715

pilot. Everybody's pilot, Brett, public works, Will, it's pilot. Let's if we can do this one, then we can, I hopefully, figure out how to replicate and and do it quicker and and create a blueprint for people that reduces the complexity? So it's like, here. This works. Copy it. Right?

1:25:394

Awesome.

1:25:4016

Thank you.

1:25:4015

Alright. Thank you.

1:25:4117

Thank you.

1:25:42 – 1:26:121

Now I would like to say that, in my former life, I managed the lumberyard, and I know a little bit about the, building industry. And when I found out that Nathan's company is, using the mass plywood, product, If you've been in a Portland airport recently, you have seen some examples of of exactly what they're building. They're big, thick pieces of plywood that they can do amazing things. So, hats off to you. I'm really looking forward to see it. I'm sure that your product is just as good, and I I can't wait to see it.

1:26:1217

We're using the cross laminated timber. It's really similar large wood panel prefab.

1:26:191

So you're also at the Portland Airport then.

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It's the same product. Yeah. So

1:26:24 – 1:26:3715

And my company is actually also building in high. So I'm producing the show and building in it, but we're all noncombustible steel, literally bullet proof ish buildings. All small arms fire.

1:26:381

Thank you. Thank you very much.

1:26:4015

Thank you.

1:26:46 – 1:27:111

Alright. The next item is a public hearing on the partition of an unincorporated parcel in Newburgh. No place there. So it's from legislative or or administrative?

1:27:112

This is the administrative.

1:27:124

Thank you. Legislative.

1:27:142

Legislative? Okay. Sorry. My apologies. Legislative.

1:27:16 – 1:27:341

Legislative. Alright. So this is a legislative hearing. I call this hearing the order. The purpose is to discuss the project application the land division application in front of us.

1:27:38 – 1:27:581

Citizens will be able to testify in this issue. There are none who have signed up. At this point, this is where we ask the council to declare any conflicts of interest or absent abstentations. Seeing none, we'll move on. Thank you. It's time for the staff report.

1:27:59 – 1:28:1220

Alright. Good evening, council. So I'm glad glad that we saved the most exciting project for after the hive for the partition. My name is James, of the planners. And tonight, we're going to be wrong way.

1:28:121

Other way.

1:28:17 – 1:29:0120

Staff's recommendation is to adopt resolution number twenty twenty six four thousand and eight, and we are looking at a proposed three lot partition of an unincorporated parcel within the urban reserve. So it is currently unincorporated. However, the Newburgh urban area management agreement requires the city make a recommendation on items having a substantial impact upon land use under the jurisdiction of Yenville County within Newburgh's urban reserve area. So because of its proximity to the city and it being within the urban reserve, city council makes a recommendation, and then the final final decision is still made by Yenville County. So you can see the parcel here.

1:29:02 – 1:29:3820

It's at 3301 Northeast Zimri Drive. You can see on the map to the right, that little red, box kinda highlights where in the city. So we're just kind of up up north in Northeast, and it is an approximately 9.1 acre site currently developed with one single family house. And the applicant is proposing it to be developed into, three parcels approximately 3.5, 2.5, and 3.1 acres in size. Here, you can see the proposed partition that would be processed currently.

1:29:38 – 1:30:5320

So parcels one, two, and three with the access roads and then the existing single family house on the right of the map there. And then there are two blue dashed areas on Parcels 2 And 3 that would include current building pads that that would be developed at this time. The Newburgh Urban Area Growth Management Agreement has some criteria for when council has these recommendations. And it is that the current development shall not cause more than 10% of the property to be used for site improvements, including building, parking areas, and improved recreation areas or storage unless the city agrees that the development intensity will not prohibit future urban development, that the future development plan shall allow for the efficient future urban development of the remainder of the property, shall allow for construction of future urban streets and utilities, and shall allow for the required setbacks to current and future property lines, and that the plan is consistent with adopted plans and policies for the area, such as streets and utility plans. So the applicant is required to submit a proposed development plan.

1:30:53 – 1:31:3620

So this is what they included. It highlights where the existing house is and then shows, the larger parcels that would remain with what is proposed now and then includes a a conceptual high level outline of where street right of way could go, what lot arrangements could look like. So for for this proposal, they have some East West alignments connecting into Zimri Drive. The applicant is not bound by this specific plan in twenty years if they chose the annex. This is simply demonstrating to staff and council that even with with how they're choosing to partition it today, it could be developed at urban levels in the future.

1:31:37 – 1:32:0920

So could we development and, development engineering reviewed it. The proposed, building envelopes are going to be approximately 12% of the site, so just higher than that 10% threshold. The staff made the determination, in the findings that, that is not incompatible with that feature development. So staff's recommendation is to adopt resolution number 20264008. I'm happy to answer any questions.

1:32:13 – 1:32:2621

This is just curiosity, James. How far north of Mountain View I I'm familiar with Zimri and Aspen, but it how far North of Mountain View would you guess or South of Bell?

1:32:31 – 1:32:4220

Well, I I'm not sure, like, in miles roughly, but the the annexation that occurred okay.

1:32:432

Sorry. I just couldn't

1:32:451

I helped her see that Roberts Lane is the subdivision just to the south of this. Great. So it'll be the very next north piece.

1:32:5221

Thank you. I'm not

1:33:011

So this is a measure what is it? Measure 49 now claim?

1:33:10 – 1:33:2120

Eligible. I don't I'm not I'm not aware if they have filed it with the county yet, but it it is eligible for the, I believe, the measure 37 claim process.

1:33:21 – 1:34:061

So normally, somebody would not be able to develop inside of our urban reserve boundary. And when we do our assessment this year, our land needs assessment, they're gonna consider this 9.1 acre piece of property available for development at 14.8 houses per acre or whatever the current number that they're using. The reason this person can develop it is because they own this land prior to 1976. And what, in the nineties, I think, somebody got the bright idea that they had used the goalpost rule that our attorney has explained to us a couple of times. And the people who already own their property prior to the implementation of law said, hey, we shouldn't be subject to law.

1:34:06 – 1:34:491

So I had quite a conversation with a gentleman from DLCD the other day, and he understands that this is not good for the city to do this because this is basically gonna take that 10 acres of property out of development future development potential, and there's no way to replace it. And yet, it's still going to be counted as buildable land when we do our our assessment. So this is, in my opinion, the some one of the problems with our land use laws. When it comes down to it, there's really nothing we can do about it. He has the absolute right to divide this, and we can complain all we want, but Yamhill County is going to approve this when it gets to him.

1:34:49 – 1:35:001

So that's that's what's going on here. I unless if somebody else has comments, somebody like to make a motion.

1:35:01 – 1:35:1514

Mike? I just have a comment. Does anybody know why he wouldn't want to break it up into more lots. I mean, it would be more more valuable at that point.

1:35:1819

There's a letter in there about separating out from settling their inheritance equitably amongst, I'm assuming, three kids.

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Oh, it was.

1:35:25 – 1:35:3919

And it sounds like I think they have filed with the county because, I guess, the question I had was the letter says that this process set them back two months in their filing with the county. So I didn't so, like, just a what did that mean? Yeah.

1:35:40 – 1:36:0820

Yeah. So, the applicant did submit the application for the for the partition with the county, and then it was referred to to city staff when and then we kinda started this process that's outlined in the urban, management agreement, which requires the public hearing and recommendation for from city council. So that was just kind of a process that, you know, isn't used terribly often. So I think 2022 was there were two parcels then 2019

1:36:104

as well.

1:36:12 – 1:36:4920

And if I can just add one other comment as far as, like, the lot size, I think one just consideration is part of the balancing that Steph had to do was, you know, we're evaluating this for development at urban levels that could occur in the future. But although it's in the urban reserve area, it's still not in the urban growth boundary. So at as of now, it's still being being evaluated at the AF 10 agriculture lot size standards. And so, you know, in order to have those more urban smaller lot sizes for development, it it would have to first have the EGB expanded and then be annexed in at some point.

1:36:51 – 1:37:0614

So it seems like to me that I mean, from what I understand, anytime we try and bring land inside the urban growth boundary, it's it's difficult to do or it takes a lot of time. Is is

1:37:0620

that accurate? Difficult could be an appropriate word for that. Yeah.

1:37:10 – 1:37:5214

you know? So I understand that that might hurt us perhaps in the short run, but in the long run, it's gonna be be brought inside the city limits at some point in time, which then it would be probably broken down into more lots for housing and stuff. I kinda hate telling somebody what they can and cannot do on with their own property. And so with that in mind, I'll probably vote against this, because I just see that it's gonna be so far down the road. It will it will hurt us a little bit.

1:37:52 – 1:38:0714

I understand that in the short frame of mind, but and the guy can legally do it. It's not inside the urban growth boundaries, not even inside the city limits yet. So that's kinda how I feel about it.

1:38:08 – 1:38:4220

Is it and I can make two two comments there. So so kinda just first off, like like, at the big picture, so this is just a recommendation to the county. So the county will still be making the actual decision on the partition. And then and second and then just kind of Scott might wanna add on to this as well. But I think as we've been looking at some of the S B 1537 parcels, well, one of the thing that's one of the items that's come up and that will likely be bringing back to you is that there have been parcels that have been brought into the urban growth boundary twenty years ago that still are large lots that had not been annexed or developed.

1:38:42 – 1:39:0520

So so I think kind of that speaks to a broader conversation both for the housing needs analysis and then also for that urban group of boundary work that'll happen in the future. So just kind of you know, we have areas elsewhere in the city that are could be annexed, could be developed, but just have not yet at this point. And that's been twenty years. Scott, do you wanna add anything to that?

1:39:06 – 1:39:4123

Yeah. Thank you, James and mayor, members of the council. I wasn't going to comment on that. But, really, what what our the scope of our review and and really the what the urban growth management agreement is asking of the councils to make a recommendation to the county on whether this interferes with I mean, I'm oversimplifying, but does this interfere with, or is it consistent with future urbanization of the area? It may be unlikely that a fragmented piece of property would ultimately come in to the city because of what James was describing earlier.

1:39:41 – 1:40:3623

We have all of these fragmented parcels adjacent to the urban adjacent to the city that are already within the urban growth boundary that have no motivation to annex. So although notwithstanding the fact that it might be unlikely that this would ultimately annex into the city, we're asked to comment to the county on whether the the manner in which they're partitioning this property makes it even more difficult or or if it's compatible with future urbanization. And so, for example, if their three parcels were lined up lockstep along Zimri Drive and provided no possible pathway for bringing access deeper into the lot to eventually divide it in the future, then we would have a different recommendation. We'd say, you know, we think that the way that they've laid out their partition is in conflict with our urban growth management agreement and the principles of urbanization. The way that they've laid it out, we don't we don't see any conflict.

1:40:36 – 1:40:5723

So you can either you can make a recommendation, finding accordingly, which is what the resolution says. You could choose not to adopt the resolution, in which case we would have no comment to the county. I mean, we would respond that there's no comment. Or you could direct staff to prepare a different resolution, making a different comment.

1:41:01 – 1:41:161

I've got a piece of business I've gotta take care of. We have nobody for public comment. Is that correct? So at this point, I'm gonna open and close public comments. So now your staff report, I assume, is still to pass this on. Mike, you've got the floor.

1:41:17 – 1:41:3314

Yeah. I I need to clarify what I I just I meant that I'll be voting for this, you know, because he he can do it. I'm I'm not I don't wanna tell somebody that they can't do something on their own property. Okay. Alright. Well, for the record, anyways.

1:41:35 – 1:42:183

Thank thank you, mister mayor. And I just wanted to kinda chime in on the procedural front. This is a bit of a an awkward structure intentionally so because it's a legislative hearing, but there's a resolution with a recommendation before council that's in you know, James and Scott, you can you can chime in or correct me if I'm wrong. But part of the responsibility of the city under the urban area management agreement with the county is to is to make a recommendation or not comment or or or or not provide a recommendation in favor. But in passing that, you're supposed to conduct a hearing that's legislative in nature.

1:42:18 – 1:42:343

So there's this bit of an awkward tension because your resolution's before you, but you're going through a legislative process. So we are recommending you go through the steps of, you know, there's no second reading and you do a roll call vote on the on the resolution even though it's not not an ordinance.

1:42:55 – 1:43:311

Alright. So the the floor is open for council comments. I I would like to say that the problem here is not the recommendation. The problem is our land use laws. These are you know, the city should have the ability to manage the land. We can't let him build on it, so we might as well let him divide it and build three large houses and and be done with it. But it's not the desired result in my opinion. So would

1:43:332

Do want me to walk you through it?

1:43:341

I'm I'm having trouble finding this.

1:43:37 – 1:43:532

So the next step would be to someone to waive the second reading. Do you want me to walk you through the process here? You found it? Okay. But everywhere it says ordinance, say resolution.

1:43:56 – 1:44:201

So this is the first meeting, and it's the ordinance is considered. Council should waive the second reading through the following motion. I move to waive the second reading of ordinance number twenty twenty six four thousand eight. Is there a second? Peggy? Peggy?

1:44:21 – 1:44:331

Alright. Alright. All in favor of waiving the second reading signify by saying aye.

1:44:361

opposed, nay. Are we okay on a voice vote on that?

1:44:412

Next vote will be approved.

1:44:42 – 1:45:011

All right. So now we have a motion for approval. I move to approve ordinance number twenty twenty six four thousand eight and ask that it'd be read no. No. And ask that it'd be read by title only.

1:45:0422

I'll second. It's a resolution, but I don't know. I'm it's not a very long one.

1:45:081

No. Probably what?

1:45:0922

It's not

1:45:0914

a very long one. I wouldn't be opposed to,

1:45:1222

but I'll second.

1:45:141

I like it. Alright. All in favor of approving the motion to signify

1:45:219

to do a roll call.

1:45:222

And before we vote, I'm gonna clarify its resolution, not ordinance twenty twenty six four thousand and eight just for the minutes.

1:45:32 – 1:45:512

And the title is grab that. A resolution recommending that Yamhill County approve a proposed three parcel partition of 3301 Northeast Zimri Drive, Yamhill County Tax Lot Number R 320 801 000.

1:45:534

K. You're gonna have to Grab that.

1:45:552

And roll call vote. Ready? K. Councilor McBride?

1:46:022

Councilor Wheatley? Yes. Councilor Yarnell Holloman?

1:46:072

Councilor Kilburg? Yes. Mayor Rosacker?

1:46:112

Councilor Turgeson? Yes. Councilor Carmen?

1:46:144

Yes. Thank you.

1:46:22 – 1:46:371

The mass motion passes unanimously. We're done with that. Yep. Just show me where you got that title after we're done here.

1:46:372

That. Alright.

1:46:43 – 1:47:271

So next item on our agenda is our Sister City nonprofit support. I asked the city manager to put this back on the agenda for two reasons. One, the wine industry is in 1922 or 2022, an $8,400,000,000 industry to the state of Oregon, and more than half of that is in the Willamette Valley. Yamhill County is a huge portion. There are more wineries in the 97132 ZIP code than any other ZIP code in the state.

1:47:28 – 1:48:111

So in my opinion, no council prior to this council has ever acknowledged the wine industry in the city of Newburgh. They've never tried to work with the wine industry at all. And yet, it is a big economic driver for our city. So I've asked made made this available for a couple of our major players, people who set up the Sister City program in the first place, to come back and explain to us why this is important to the economic viability of the city of Newburgh. So with that being said, our first commenter is gonna be David Adelson.

1:48:151

Welcome, sir.

1:48:17 – 1:48:478

Thank you, Bill. Thank you. Thanks to, the city council for allowing us to talk. What you say about the wine industry and its role in Newberg is very important. To a certain extent, the wine industry has developed to the the point that it's at without any support from Newburgh.

1:48:50 – 1:50:278

You have been instrumental, and the the city council has been instrumental in reaching out to us, responding to our outreach to you. And this has been made possible by the sister city relationship with Pozhof. It's not actually one is not dependent on the other, except emotionally, they're tied together. Newberg's wine industry, as is the state of Oregon's industry, dependent on an attitude of openness, of bringing the pieces together in a way that hadn't been brought together in the state of Oregon and in a particularly in a rural agricultural sense, the the role of in this has been really the function of Lin and and Voltrout on their own for, in essence, twelve years. Well, whatever, 2012 minus thirteen years.

1:50:28 – 1:52:138

Fourteen years, actually, having Pozdorf as a an official part of Newburgh's agenda going forward would mean that Newburgh is open to its current wine industry, its future wine industry for an investment, the internationalization of what what Newberg stands for. Having the the proposition that that Pozdorf can be Nuremberg's sister city, but it's not that important would mean, in essence, Newburgh would be closing the door on its wine industry. It would be saying what you what you stand for internationally isn't what Newberg stands for. And thus, really, it's not that important. So I would I would wish that you would make the statement of support for the sister city relationship with Pozhof and Newberg's role in in this international development.

1:52:148

That's all I'd have.

1:52:201

Thank you, David. You didn't slide out? Yeah.

1:52:288

No. Outside

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Yeah. I know. Okay. Brendan Slider.

1:52:38 – 1:53:0424

Welcome, sir. Good evening. I'm Brandon Slider, resident of Newburgh. I appreciate, mister mayor, the council, and the staff for your time. I recognize that amidst all of the, contention and the important things like sewer lines that sister city relations may not be the most important thing for a city, but I'm hoping that it can still be an important part of the conversation and who we are as a community.

1:53:05 – 1:53:5924

So I'm here tonight to kinda reiterate my practical path forward that I presented to maintain both of Newburgh's sister cities. Over the past few months, I think it's been kinda clear that the council is less interested in spending public funds on the sister city programs, and I totally respect that. At the same time, I think that with the community involvement, there's a strong interest in not walking away from those relationships, and those two things don't have to conflict with each other. So to help bridge that gap, I've registered a domestic nonprofit, Connects Newberg, which will be community driven and volunteer led. We're in the stage right now of forming the board, which means we'll have our bylaws and policies and all the fun fun stuff before we apply for our five zero one c three status.

1:53:59 – 1:54:3224

But having run my own nonprofit separately, I know the whole process. So Connect Newburgh will never ask the city for funding. We'll never require staff time or demand that city officials or city electeds will be involved. We'll always invite. So we already have a model that works with our connection with Asago or Wadayama, as sometimes it's known, with our middle school exchange program.

1:54:32 – 1:55:0824

And we've begun some of the discussions with Austrian counterparts on how to establish a exchange program for students there as well. So we have a really cool path forward for some options for our students in the community. So I think it's it's great to look at some of the Japanese companies we have in town, some of which I've actually worked for, and look at these connections and see how healthy they are and say, what can we do for Austrian sister city to strengthen that? And I think mister Adelsheim really nailed it. It's the wine industry.

1:55:08 – 1:55:5224

How can we support our local wine industry? How can we learn from international wine industries? Though, you know, that's a little bit above my knowledge, but I know that there's people in the community who are passionate about that. I've begun making connections with some local wine industries. You may see I don't know if you were distributed some letters of support that I gathered, including from chamber of commerce, this school district, some local wineries. So I hope you all can see that there's passion. It's just there's all these dots all over the place. How can we connect them? How can we bridge this gap? And, ultimately, I think my main ask from the city is is to just please be supportive, at least verbally.

1:55:52 – 1:56:1924

Maintain the sister city connections that we have diplomatically. However much involvement you guys want is gonna be on an individual basis. You can be volunteers. You can totally step back if you're less interested. But just it it doesn't feel like it's going in this direction, but I wanna make clear that I think cutting ties with a friendship that we've had for decades internationally doesn't feel good.

1:56:19 – 1:56:5324

So I'm hoping that with that in mind, we can move forward with maintaining. So I did wanna hit three main topics that connects Newberg is gonna be focusing on. We've got education, which will be trying to establish that education connection with Poysthorf and also raising funds for the kids that go to Japan. So there's some, you know, opportunities for both locations. As well as I'm hoping that I can bring forth some German language classes and some Japanese language classes to the community.

1:56:54 – 1:57:3624

Economic is a big one. You know, I'll rely on the experts in the wine industry to tell me what can I do as a nonprofit to support them? I'll always have an open door to meet with them and advocate for them. I also hope that we can bring people to Newburgh. You may think, you know, if I'm gonna go on vacation overseas, why would I go to Poysthorf? And I'd argue, why would you come to Newburgh? So let's make that clear why they should come here. And lastly is cultural. That one's really easy for me because of my experience in overseas, nonprofit work. But I have a lot of crazy, big, fun ideas, and I'll I'll end there since that's my time.

1:57:3624

But if you have any questions, my door is always open. So that's it. Thank you.

1:57:46 – 1:58:121

So discussion. And it seems to me that there's the the last time that we brought this up, we, the council, directed the city manager that we were going to tell him that he couldn't spend money on this. That's not typically what we do. We've given the city manager the authority to spend up to a $100,000 without asking our permission. So I felt that it was a bit unfair to tie his hands in that way.

1:58:14 – 1:58:491

I also I go to Dundee quite a bit, and Dundee has some really nice hotels now, some very nice luxury hotels, like the one that's gonna be built across the street. And they have embraced the wine industry. I really don't wanna see Newberg left out of that sort of economic engine for our area. I mean, $8,400,000,000. That's one of the largest industries in our state, and I think it would be shortsighted of this council to not support it at some level.

1:58:49 – 1:59:081

So that's my opinion, and I'm gonna be quiet now. Elise, go ahead.

1:59:10 – 1:59:3618

Yeah. I fully support what you just shared, Bill, and I respect, you know, keeping the finances separate. But from a supporting mechanism, I the this sister city has my full support, and I appreciate everyone's thoughtfulness to this. And thank you to the people that came and gave public comment.

1:59:45 – 2:00:2919

Yep. I just wanna say thank you to everyone who came for a public comment, and Brandon for all of the work that you have done in starting this process of putting together a five zero one c three. I feel like that is a really elegant solution for kind of navigating what was the conundrum of unpaid staff time supporting this really meaningful relationship. And so I think that there's good value in separating out the financial components, but then us as a council really honoring and uplifting those members of the community who want to pour time and energy and investment, and those of us who can stepping alongside and partnering in that process without the tricky budgetary line item components.

2:00:35 – 2:00:5522

So to your point about tying the city manager's hands with you know, he's got a spending limit that he's authorized to use. I totally agree with that. We didn't bring this to him. A member of his staff did. With that being said, he does bring other things to us that are under his spending limit because he respects the will of the council.

2:00:57 – 2:01:3622

I think that I've actually been strengthened in my resolve of this with the two speakers. The wine industry has built itself up without the Sea Of Newburgh, And, man, I appreciate that. But I also do appreciate the relationship that we do have with the sister cities, and I do support that. But I don't I still don't support public funds being used in that way. If the city manager elects to do that, we've authorized him to do that. What I really don't want is the spouses of elected officials having trips paid for to go to these places and maybe not even elected officials. That's how I feel about that.

2:01:46 – 2:02:3414

Well, I think I've come around a little bit after listening to the two speakers tonight. I do agree with you, councilor Carmen, that I I think, you know, spouses, if we were to take our spouses with us, I I don't think the city should be on the hook for that. But I I think as as counselors, though, if we were to go I don't know if we have a we don't really have a policy for that. Maybe we ought to set up a policy. At least we don't have one that I know of where maybe the the the individual counselor pays part of his trip and the city pays the other half perhaps.

2:02:34 – 2:02:5914

I mean, that's something to talk about. But I I had another time maybe. But I I guess with all that saying, I I'm I'm in support of of keeping the relationship going and and do what we can. I do appreciate the wine industry and and what it has actually done for this this town and this area has been it's pretty remarkable. So

2:03:05 – 2:03:201

For the record, I also support not sending spouses at Citi on Citi money. Always have. So is that enough clarity or should do we need to do we need to vote on this? Go ahead.

2:03:21 – 2:04:084

I think I think if I could restate what I'm hearing just so that I've got clarity on this. Providing some community support line item from that identified section, which as you know, up till now, I've been focusing on downtown improvements with that line item. Taking some portion of that to further the works of the sister city, the new organization is supported by council. That's what I'm hearing. And I'm also hearing that it would they would not want even if that nonprofit wanted to, would not want to be sending people's spouses, period, on on that dime.

2:04:09 – 2:04:224

I know it's very hard to enforce a nonprofit not to do something. Right? But we we would certainly make her wishes understood by them. So so am I understanding that correctly? I believe I am.

2:04:251

Go ahead.

2:04:28 – 2:05:0119

Well, I guess I would defer to how the nonprofit spends their funding to the nonprofit. I would say how the city chooses to contribute and spend city money. Like, I would love to go to Poinsdorf. I am a 100% planning to a 100% pay for myself. But if Brandon, like, wins the lottery with his not for profit in the future and there is money for Brandon's five zero one c three to choose to pay for whoever they want to take from the community of Newburgh but then we have what is the rules, James?

2:05:01 – 2:05:2919

The it is more than a $50 gift for Brandon to pay for all of us to go. So that would be a con an issue to address in the future. So I think I don't wanna get so nitty gritty as to determine how Brandon can't can or cannot spend Brandon's money as a not for profit, knowing that he'll follow all the laws and do all the things he's supposed to, but then also making sure that we don't have conflict of interest conundrums if Brandon elects to pay for us to have more than a $50 plane ticket.

2:05:34 – 2:06:093

I was just looking for my opportunity. Thank you, mister So so councilor Jurgensen is is spot on. Obviously, there's the the $50 gift limit that organ ethics rules, or the organ ethics statute applies to, elected officials, to other city officials. That same analysis, without considering any of the exceptions, applies regardless of the source of that payment. Right?

2:06:09 – 2:06:593

So if a non in in in a hypothetical situation where a nonprofit were to pay for, you know, the airfare and hotel of members of city council, that that ethics law still comes into play. However, there are exceptions to that gift rule. One of the exceptions is when you have certain kind of officially designated economic activities that you participate in then that doesn't constitute a gift for the purposes of the of the statute. But in order to kind of unlock that exception, the city would the council would have to pass a resolution identifying that particular trip, be it, you know, poised or otherwise, as that officially designated, you know,

2:06:59 – 2:07:133

economic development trip, if you will. And and then there's some coverage there for for you as elected officials for reasonable travel, food, lodging expenses.

2:07:161

And that would have to be done each and every trip, or could we do that once and for this as a unit?

2:07:24 – 2:07:473

Yeah. My my recommendation is to to tailor the resolution to particular trips, mister mayor. So a blanket resolution, I think, could could create some some exposure when reviewed by OGEC, but, you know, tailored resolutions for particular trips would be the the advised route.

2:07:531

So if everybody's good, let's we can move on. So the last item on our agenda is the pacer code change.

2:08:04 – 2:08:224

Thank you, honorable mayor and council. I'm I brought this before you this evening simply to add a word that represents a new type of technology to our code, And so this is in the form of an ordinance change, a very, very minor one.

2:08:222

Being legislative, so it's the same one.

2:08:2614

Oh. Okay.

2:08:294

So Here's whole strip.

2:08:311

Here's your strip. Mhmm.

2:08:322

Okay. This is one of those.

2:08:33 – 2:08:501

Okay. Thank you, Brandon. Thank you, David. I'm sorry. I was talking to the clerk. Is it was that your entire presentation?

2:08:504

Oh, no. No. When you get to the bit where you go, staff presentation, give it to me now, Will. I'll say more words.

2:09:03 – 2:09:391

Oblivated a legislative hearing. I now call this hearing to order. It's a hearing to consider the proposal in front of us. At this time, I will open a public hearing. The citizens will be able to testify on the issue first for medic. Do any of them oh, again, we need to declare conflicts of interest or absentation. Do any of the council members have any conflicts or absentations to declare? Seeing none, we are ready for the staff report.

2:09:43 – 2:10:394

In 2024, the entirety of the city of Newburgh underwent road surface scanning using LiDAR technology. One of the objectives of this effort was to create a richer understanding of what road sections were badly degraded or indeed altogether failing with this brand new type of data. The end product of this analysis was a PACER dataset, pavement surface evaluation and rating system. The dataset will enable better decision making about future road repair decisions, in other words, where we should spend our money first. In November 2025, the city GIS analyst brought to my attention that to make best use of the new LiDAR Pacer data, Newberg would need to make a minor ordinance change to recognize this new technology.

2:10:40 – 2:11:174

The code change that sits before you tonight does not replace pavement condition index with PACER. No. Instead, this ordinance adds PACER to our municipal toolkit for the assessment of road surface conditions to help make better informed decisions on where to dedicate scarce resources. In other words, we will recognize both systems and we'll be able to use both systems. Exhibit A illustrates the use of PACER and contains the proposed text insertions.

2:11:17 – 2:11:454

Exhibit B contains the ordinance that sets the PCI standard and that was from back in 2016. So this is adding to work that was done then. While there is no direct fiscal impact, PACER will allow road repair resources to be better deployed and that can only be a good thing and we feel that this falls within Goal five implement a careful and prudent fiscal policy.

2:11:50 – 2:12:261

Alright. I now open public comments. We have nobody signed up for public comments. Nobody in the audience wishes to make comment on this, so I'm gonna close public comments. So first of all, I move to waive the second reading of ordinance number twenty twenty six twenty nine forty two. Is there a second? Second. All in favor of reading of the waiving the second reading of this ordinance, signify by saying aye.

2:12:271

Aye. All opposed? Nay? Motion passes.

2:12:392

You don't have to make this motion. I see I see if there's I saw.

2:12:421

We what?

2:12:432

You don't have to make the motion to approve the ordinance. Yeah.

2:12:47 – 2:13:061

No. They don't have the script, though. So I I move to approve ordinance number twenty twenty six twenty nine forty two and to that it asked that it be read by title only. That close enough? Is there a second?

2:13:091

What's that?

2:13:114

It's it's not a good joke, mister mayor, about April 1, and now James would have to read them all.

2:13:163

I'm I'm gonna ask councilor Carmen to let me know in advance when the full ordinance is read, and I'll send an associate to be there for that meeting.

2:13:26 – 2:13:401

So it has been there's a motion and a second to approve this motion and read it by title only, which is

2:13:412

An ordinance to recognize PACER data in Newburgh Municipal Code.

2:13:471

It's a lot of words just to put five words into our code.

2:13:502

Oh, yes.

2:13:531

Alright. So roll call vote.

2:13:552

Yep. Councilor McBride?

2:13:582

Councilor Wheatley? Yes. Councilor Yarnell Holloman?

2:14:042

Councilor Kilburg? Yes. Mayor Rosacker?

2:14:072

Councilor Churgisen? Yes. Councilor Carmen?

2:14:112

Thank you.

2:14:161

The motion passes unanimously. Counselor Holloman, where are you today? Oh,

2:14:2512

I'm in Kauai. What?

2:14:321

Well, I hope you're having a good time. Thanks for taking time out of your vacation to come to the council meeting.

2:14:3918

Absolutely. It's been a great meeting.

2:14:42 – 2:14:541

Oh, I'm sorry. We do have one more item on our agenda. We need to elect a new council president for 2026. So are there any nominations?

2:14:572

Yeah. Peggy,

2:14:58 – 2:15:1021

I'm I'll nominate Robin. I I know we rotate this around, and it's been I've had it. Mike's had it. Lisa's has been it. I think she's the next you don't know?

2:15:1914

I nominate Derek.

2:15:271

Are there any other nominations? All in favor of Derek as the council president for 2026 signify by saying aye.

2:15:371

All opposed, nay.

2:15:4112

Alright. Good. Yay. Go, dude.

2:15:44 – 2:16:011

Yay, Derek. Well, this was an interesting meeting. Thank you for sticking with us, those of you that did, and we'll see you in two weeks. I declare this meeting adjourned.

2:16:0112

Thanks, everyone.

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