Parks and Recreation Committee - Regular Meeting

Good evening and welcome to the March 16th meeting of the Parks and Recreation Committee. I guess this is our final meeting of this commission. And I don't know what... What point do I ask? You want to be chair? No, no, no. I'm asking you to chair.

I'm just asking.

I'll get there.

Order of business. Always on the order of business. Next thing. That's all.

Could you call the roll, please?

Yes, Chair. Chair McBride?

Here.

Vice Chair Sanchez?

Here.

Committee Member Maishide? Here. Chair, you have a quorum.

Now, does anyone have something they would like to walk on for the March 16th meeting? Yes, please. Representative Maishide, what would you like to bring on in 10 words or less?

Senior programming.

Senior programming.

okay that would be that would be item 5a if approved okay it's okay with me yeah good good let's go do we have to is that a second or not yes is that a second mr sanchez oh yes i second all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries

That's one thing I do appreciate from we've had years of meetings where it's been just a kind of a talk about hearts. And now there is, Genesis keeps us straight.

I keep all of my boys straight. That's good.

That's good. If anybody says anything, there's nothing to say because you kept it straight. All right. Do you have anything, Alan? I do not. Thank you. Approval of minutes for the February 17th meeting. Can I get a motion to approve or if there's any discussion if anybody found anything? I did not.

Motion to approve even though I wasn't here, but I read them.

Okay.

If I read it, I won't approve it. Second.

All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

Is it like the commission who causes trouble at the last meeting? Spring break.

Well, I'll just push your bus first. The new guy?

No. What's your name? Carlos. Carlos.

Oh, oh, oh. All right.

He's my manager. You're on your own, buddy. Yep. School bus head count. So the school bus head count is averaging 42. My vending machine numbers.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. Not there yet. Oh, okay. No one will discuss the school bus. What progress have we made to a school bus rather than a coach?

So they are only providing now a school bus in the case that the coach bus is damaged or out of service. That's the backup.

Why not the other way around?

It was brought up to me now recently. It's in discussion with the town manager to see if we could try to, what you suggested, why don't we do the school bus first and have the coach as a secondary substitute.

The school bus broke before, and we got the coach. Not a problem. We covered our base.

All the buses are breaking at this point.

They both bring the coach and the bus break. I guess our homework for this summer is to find a decent company.

And when you said they, who do you mean by they?

Our vendor is Charter Up.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, they provide service to the town, a charter or school bus. $120,000 a year, they could buy two school buses. They also do transportation for our seniors too. It's the same company.

What has been done from the town, from the manager's point of view, for supervision from the public service aid? I don't go out there and check because I don't want to get myself excited for no reason.

I know PD is rotating.

So nothing?

Afternoons, I know nobody's out. I haven't seen anybody out.

Because the manager did respond immediately to me of my suggestion of having, hey, Martha, of having a PSA. We've got community service aides riding all over town. Two times a day, they've got to go to two places. It's not a lot to ask for the safety of the children.

All right, okay. You want to welcome Martha?

I would love to welcome Martha. You saved a seat for you. Thank you. And she brought a sweater. Marianne is freezing. I forgot.

Can I borrow your scarf? For me, I have to go somewhere else. I don't want people to think I'm crazy.

4B. I'm sorry. Discussion. School bus. It was a chair by the chair. What did I see on social media that you posted? A school bus, not ours.

Not ours. I have followed it twice. Coming home from school. It just happens to be ahead of us. It's a bus from a Hebrew school. Comes from North Miami. I contacted, on the way, I called Bay Harbor PD. I was at the west side of the gas station. It passed me. By the time I got on the bridge, it was over the bridge. By the time I got down the bridge, it was clear of the bridge. This bus was flying. Wow. It stops by, I don't know, it used to be by the movie theater. Do you all remember where the movie theater used to be? It's West Bay Harbor Drive, I think. It opens the door, lets children out, no flashing signs, no flashing lights, no nothing. On that main street? On 96th Street, chaos. So I took a picture, and this is at 2.20, took a picture of the tag, Bay Harbor, didn't catch up, called Surfside PD. They went over the little bridge, got to the first stop by the new entrance to the Val Harbor shops, opened the door, no flashers, no line, kids ran in front of the bus through traffic across, not at the crosswalk,

Wow.

Through traffic to get to the other side, to the north side of 96th Street.

And at this point you're in Surfside?

Yes. I called Surfside PD and I said, this bus just did that. I said, I know it's going to stop at Publix. Turned the corner, I followed it down. I was about four cars behind. There was a policeman behind me. Stopped at Publix. No flashes, no nothing. Kids going east across 94th Street through traffic. This is why I grab. They don't listen. So the cop goes down, and this is where it gets bad. Goes down, turns at 90th Street. I was ahead of the bus by then. I watched it turn. Turned at Abbott. Did not stop at the stop sign on Abbott and 90th. The policeman's behind him, puts on his lights. Great. Finally something. I go around the block. The bus keeps going. The cop turns off his lights. I followed it down 91st Street, made two more stops, ran two stop signs. I'm talking running. I'm saying rolling through two stop signs. So I put it on next door. Your child rides this bus and they're stupid.

It's worse than I thought because you mentioned just a portion of it. Now we're getting a more complex...

to hear from anybody.

This is beyond Gladys Kravitz.

Yes, yes, yes. I like that, exactly.

But it's the side of the bus, because it used to be probably a Dade County school bus. It's blacked out with spray paint, so there's no name of the school anywhere on the bus.

Oh, geez.

And where it says school bus above the back of the bus where the evacuation door is, it's all blacked out.

I'm going to just take a wild guess and say that if it happened once and you saw it, it'll be happening on a daily. And I would ask this commission to make an official report that that cannot continue.

But I don't know the name of the company, I don't know the name of the bus. Did you get a license plate? Yeah, the police have the license plate. But it seems to happen on Fridays, and I think maybe the kids get out of school earlier on a Friday to be home earlier. Because I drive at the same time almost every day, and I don't see it but Fridays. Would that be logical that the kids would get out of Hebrew school earlier to get home before dark? What time was it when you... 2.20, 2.15. When they got off on 96th Street going east and they ran through traffic.

It's not our town bus service. It's not our vendor, but it is our town. And that's... What's that?

Well, I wrote an email to the chief to see if Friday he could be... Is Friday a Jewish holiday? No.

Friday night. This Friday?

Friday night. No, not... Oh, the evening? It's not Passover yet.

What?

It's not Passover yet. No, no, no. It's April 1st. Yeah, April 1st. Yeah. So I'll write... I can write an email to the chief and ask him if he could just to look out for that bus on Friday at 2 to 2.30. You know... I couldn't keep this inside. You're saying the same thing. I couldn't keep this inside and not notify somebody. Thank you.

Yeah, but then I understand. So then what did the police do?

Nothing. I saw them put on their lights and the bus proceeded down Abbott going to 91st and left on 91st. That's why I wrote it up. There's a thing on our website called ClickFix. If you see a problem, if you see a pipe that's broke, if you see a sewer line or something, if you have a problem with a department, trash not picked up, you can put it on ClickFix. And I wrote it all in there and I'm waiting. Sometimes it takes a minute for them to respond because they probably are investigating which police officer was at that location and didn't stop the bus after it was reported to dispatch and after they did dispatch an officer on Harding.

If it's a, we have it on, it's documented that it happened once, if it happens again, And again, on a regular, then it should be looked at. The town needs to look out for the town.

The driver needs to go. Well, that's what I heard at the bottom of my next door thing. I said, you need to find a new bus, and the driver needs to be fired. It's the same as I report when I'm driving to school in the morning. I'll look at bus drivers talking on their cell phone. You can't do that. I get the bus number, and I call dispatch. I'm a tattletale when it comes to children in school. It's just me. But I'll follow up with the chief. Yes, sir. Thank you.

How we doing on vending, Rudy? So this month we did for ice cream, $4.47. For drinks, we had $1.47. And for snacks, we had $513. Our total revenue was $599.85. And they're good about replenishing these machines.

I guess they're making money, so they want to come out and replenish.

They normally do address them, but sometimes if we do have a lot of traffic, like a teacher planning day or a holiday, or we know the kids are out of school, we try to call them the day before. You're losing money, we're losing money. Or if it's right before a holiday, or we know it's a special event,

On the idea of food, what did the commission do about the? Concession. Concession.

Concession. So they had a visit from pest, electric, and plumbing. All those we currently are passing, but I think there's now something with the grease trap, and they're contacting the county to see how if we do start operating, we do have to have a plan in place because obviously we can't release the grease.

At schools, they clean them out regularly, and when there's a problem, they've got to be cleaned out.

Yeah. So we have to have a plan to constantly be cleaning the grease truck because we can't

Are we still looking for vendors, or have they narrowed it down? Have they interviewed any?

Well, we still have the same vendors in place that we always had. Right. I mean, even since last year, I think it's like six or seven. But I don't know if anything narrowed it down, or like a top three or something like that. No, I'm not familiar with that.

Who does that through the chair? Who narrows it down? Do you?

Tom. Manager. Manager gets the proposals and the menus, and then... Whatever the commission advised him to look for, that's what he's probably going to find a letter with.

the chair and so the vending machines are doing well enough I guess what they lack in nutrition they make up for enjoy if I look forward to a time when there's healthier choices for our residents it's hard to I mean, there's healthy choices that can go into vending machines that have shelf life and such. I don't know specifically if we have that. Down the road we could look and take a look at the menu of the vending machines and see if we can have some healthy choices there if we don't have them already.

And through the chair, I believe that, didn't you have an incident last Tuesday, Rudy, where this girl passed out, she hadn't eaten, and was in the sun?

I mean, it was not finalized. I mean, she did leave the premises, but I did suggest, because we got a child, she was playing in the pool all day. I looked at the history of when she came in with her parents, like three hours. So she was non-stop, obviously it was a little girl, she was active. She felt dizzy, we had to remove her from the pool and she was with her parents. I asked mom and dad, has the child eaten anything? She was like, no, he hasn't eaten anything. I was like, it didn't cross your mind? It's been three hours to tell her. No, she didn't want anything. Okay, at that point you have to force it now. So I was just assuming maybe that could have been something. Prevented, yeah.

If there was parenting going on.

And good food. I don't know if she was hungry or if she could have been dehydrated. Yeah, because she didn't have water either. I asked the parent if she had any beverages. She was like, no, she's been playing all day.

It's not even summer. They don't come with a direction. How often does something like that happen? Oh, rarely.

That hard you never have. Thankfully, we don't have major incidents. Our lifeguards are really on top of our... patrons and our visitors.

How did this seem to trip you?

I'm glad you asked. Because what happened is exactly what I was fearing was going to happen. The boat was in the show. And I asked several times George about what was happening. So he gave me different answers, which, you know, there were two. And there were 41 people there. She was there. And I said, but why didn't you tell me that the bus, I mean, he kept telling me the bus is late because of the traffic, the bus is late because of the construction, the bus is late. I said, wait a minute, let me call the company. So he says, no, no, no, no, I'll call the company. I said, well, I'll be next to you when you call the company. So he called the company, and he says, how could that be? I told you the date and this and that. Anyway, so there was no boats. But the other problem is that the boats would not have had accommodations for handicapped. And I said, I thought, and I didn't even really heard that every boat that goes there has to have accommodations for handicapped. So I went to ask Rudy what are we going to do so that this is not every single month that we do that and they don't send the buses with accommodations for the handicapped. Forget that the people have to go home and not see the play and everything else. So I was so upset because I don't mind giving my time if people, respect my ideas, and if they don't agree, I like for them to tell me. But I am just to the point that the current personnel in Park and Rec do not hear what I say, or they ignore what I recommend, so it is very, very difficult for me to continue doing the liaison work with the Park and Rec as it is right now.

Do they, I'm going to ask you to contact, do they have a coach bus with a handicap accessible ramp, lift?

When Martha brought it up to my attention last month, it was already short notice. I think the field trip was like two days away. So all their buses were already pretty much occupied by other vendors or other contracts, whatever they came to be. I told Martha that for that specific field trip, I would personally go out there and help. the residents. Moving forward, we did contact them and we forwarded you an email confirming that the next bus is going to be ADA compliant. Because I told George that to get a hold of them, contact them, and then if they do agree, we need it in written format so we have confirmation that they would do this. Last week he did. He confirmed the field trip for Wednesday. They did confirm the ADA compliancy. rather it's a lift, a ramp, whatever bus transportation they're going to give us, it will be accommodating that. And with that confirmation, I told George, contact Martha because it's a concern for her. So we forwarded to her the email. I didn't receive it.

So...

So this...

Through the chair? I wasn't on that one. I'm on all of them, but I was in Mexico. I was out of the country, but I certainly heard about it when I came back. And so many people are concerned whether the same thing's going to happen on Wednesday. No.

I'm going to send to you, Martha, on March 10th at 2.05 p.m. Okay.

I'm going to do it there.

March 10th, 2.05 p.m. I'm in the email. Your email is olchykom.com? Mm-hmm. It was sent to you.

So the ultimate problem was it was the wrong, it was scheduled on the wrong day?

Exactly.

The field trip?

Yeah. No, the bus.

The bus was scheduled on an incorrect date.

So does the bus usually confirm or does George confirm? Is there any company?

I call George every month And I asked him to confirm everything, and he says everything is taken care of.

Correct. Whatever the case may be, we did confirm with them, but it was earlier in the month.

I guess they just... Do you get it in writing, the confirmation from them?

Correct. We already spoke to the town manager. It was just a miscommunication that just happened. It's not miscommunication.

The bus gives you in writing that they will be here on this date at this time to pick up this many guests.

Correct.

Then somebody's going to pay for this bus coming up, and it's not going to be us.

They're not charging us anything. I'm just, that's just the truth, I mean.

Well, they got them charged when they didn't want to treat.

No, obviously it's an uncomfortable situation because we had to tell the residents about what happened, but moving forward we told them that that's one, don't let it be two.

We definitely need to do some homework and look before the new budget comes out and looking for a new service. There's lots of bus companies. In Miami, we're a tourism city. Yeah. Unfortunately, I inherited this company and I inherited this contract. Before you, Rudy, this idea of the handicap ramp lift has been brought up for years.

I agree. When Martha first brought it up to me, I told her that was the first time she ever brought it to me. It was last month, and I was like, there's no way.

And there are several seniors that are in wheelchairs, too, that I know that go on these trips all the time.

It never... They shouldn't send a bus without accommodation for seniors. And it's not a code.

A city bus has the availability of dropping all the way to the ground where a wheelchair could be getting on. But coaches don't have that. They're steps. And you certainly, and you don't need to be lifting nothing. And city employees shouldn't be attempting to lift someone that's... Correct. Rudy should not be... No, don't put yourself in that.

Good for you to do that, but it shouldn't be that way.

I mean it's not, I have put handicapped children on the school buses, but you're talking a 15, 20 pound little child that are in car seats. We run into the same problem when you have, you order a bus and we have 20 pre-K children going on and they're all under 40 pounds, so they have to have a car seat. Well the bus shows up with 20 car seats. Okay. You have to sit there and wait until dispatch sends you another bus with 40 car seats. I'm sorry that happened. When's the next? This Wednesday? This coming Wednesday? Okay. Where are you going? I say we get out signs. We're not entering the bus without a handicap lift.

But also, with the construction going on, are they able to maneuver through the cones and everything?

Yeah, we have a roundabout entrance. They can get in there. If not, I mean, if it's...

I'm saying there's usually a police car there.

Yeah, well, if PD's there, we'll ask them to assist and move out of the way, but for the most part, they always get us closer to the... I mean, obviously, construction permitting, we try to get them as close to the community center as possible.

Where are we going? Which one is it?

Fort Lauderdale. Oh, Fort Lauderdale. The Jungle Queen?

Yes. Oh, cool. Have you done it?

A hundred years ago. Oh, I haven't done that. I just saw it. We went to lunch and the dongle bean game right there. I hope this works out perfectly.

I think I'm old enough to go on that. You think you are?

I'm not. I only think of children.

You're a kid at heart.

Absolutely. Kids are cool. Adults stink. Youth Council College Prep Event.

So yesterday, unfortunately, we got rained out by the chair from them.

Chair, my apologies. What's the senior brunch address? Item 4D.

Oh, Johnny can't read. Senior brunch, senior trip. Senior brunch.

Rudy. So, yes, last week we had our senior brunch. We had full attendance. They enjoyed exquisite catering. Oh, that's good company. Yeah, I didn't have any complaints from the residents. They loved the meals. They loved the bingo game. We had a few winners that we presented Easter baskets to them. You won? Winners. I won. So we had a few of those that we gave away that, well, for the winners. We didn't give them away. But yeah, it was a good turnout, and we had full enrollment for the senior bunch.

But Exquisite Catering does this.

Oh, they're excellent.

Excellent. That's a company that comes out of North Miami. They are busy.

They're very good. Always.

Okay, how did the college prep event go?

So we actually had to reschedule because yesterday the weather permitting, it didn't allow us with the thunder and lightning. They contacted actually student leaders to come out, speak about medicine, business, law, STEM, and science. The setup was gonna be, we had their tents and they had their own displays, and then high school and middle school students were allowed to come out, ask questions, concerns, anything that wants to be career related to those individuals. But unfortunately we have to reschedule, so we're looking for a date. So I would have to reach out. Well, they're coordinating a date to share with me, and then I could see if it's available.

What schools did they come from?

It was open to all the high schools.

But the presenters?

Some were from Miami Beach. I think two were from NM, North Miami. And I forgot the, I don't know if it's a charter or private school up the street right here.

Sunny Isles?

I forgot the name, Frank. But it's close. It's in the area. Charter. I think it's a charter or private. I could be wrong.

Charters are overtaking the world.

Most of our youth is from Miami Beach. Most of them, they attend Miami Beach. So a lot of the honors and gifted kids will come in from there.

Beach High.

Yes. Like most of the kids that were pre-registered, or like interested in participating, a lot I saw, they were from Miami Beach.

Let us know when it's rescheduled.

Yes, sir.

Fourth of July event, a Roma Catering Coaster. Kosher food, kosher.

So I had obviously a discussion about this because I wanted some feedback. I figured you guys would be the best to come with this. As you know, this year, our Fourth of July event, it's one of our biggest events, but it lands on a Saturday. So our catering company, that's kosher food, they cannot, ideally they cannot be cooking like on-site because of the religious reasons, with the kosher food. One suggestion was, I don't know if it's a good idea or a bad idea, but some said to go away from the kosher food and just have a regular caterer to feed the residents. I don't know how they'll go about that. But if they do want it kosher, to have it made Friday, have it all served and packaged, or whatever the case, and then Saturday we would be able to heat the food up and serve from then, but we can't actually cook on the actual day of because of Shabbat. And then I looked into it, and the last time Fourth of July landed on a Saturday was 2015. But nobody recalls what they did at that time.

2015. It was kind of before the kosher colon. It wasn't really a thing if I remember.

I tried to ask some of the residents that were here at that time, but they really don't recall.

First thing, I'm just leery of cooking food ahead, putting it somewhere, And then warming it up.

That was my question.

I'm a little, I wouldn't want anybody to get sick.

Most of the culture catering companies that we've called, that's an option they give. That's really because they don't. Oh, they offer that. Yeah.

So they just drive it in?

So they would have to, they would make it Friday, have it cooked, made, prepped, everything. And then it would already be made. But Saturday when they come in, the vendors come in in the morning or the afternoon and They could just have it heated.

Where does it reside until Saturday morning?

Oh, with the caterer. The caterer keeps it. We're not putting it in the community center.

Where is it catered?

On site at the community center.

By the kosher caterer?

Yeah.

So they own the whole process.

Yeah, they would still come out the next day and get it out to us.

So they can warm stuff, they can't cook stuff.

They cannot cook. I got that. But they can warm stuff. We can warm it up.

Like pizza, right? Like pizza?

Next day pizza. You can bake a pizza today and then eat it tomorrow. Did you see a menu? We have the menu. We have the quote. It's barbecue style. Okay. So pretty much the burgers, the chicken sandwich, the hot dogs.

Similar to what they had at different events.

But Family Fun Day, we were able to cook it on site. Right. So how would they reheat it?

In the oven? Or on the stove?

I don't know how they reheat it, but they have it in their standard, religious way. They could do it. I don't know if it's a truck or they're going to actually have like a...

But if they, like say at a regular event, they barbecue the chicken breasts. Then they put it in a chafing dish and it's warmed in the chafing dish. I guess it's just not cooked. It's just warm.

We didn't get to those details yet because I wanted to make sure that I spoke to the board first to see what opinions you guys have on it before I just move forward.

Through the chair, is it the same? Is it one caterer for kosher and non-kosher? Or are there separate caterers?

No, aroma catering is kosher food. I haven't looked into non-kosher food.

Because?

Because I know this population likes kosher food. Well, not everyone requires that. So let's look into both. We can.

Like at Third Thursday, they have both. They always have both. And the non-kosher is a bigger line than the kosher.

So let's have both. I'm going to guess it's separate caterers. Correct, but...

But for what's budget, because it's a lot of food, so it's a large amount, it's over $14,000 of food. Who are we feeding?

Well, it's an American holiday, so we're feeding Americans.

Yes. I'm just saying, but we need that amount of food for the turnout we get. We have a lot of people that attend our events.

It's probably the biggest one.

Do you plan to feed everyone that shows up? We don't.

I mean, we don't plan it, but if we have to, we want to have it. We don't want to turn somebody away telling them they don't have food for them. That looks worse, turning somebody away and not feeding them.

What I know from the Fourth of July is that quite a few people go to the beach to look at our fireworks show. Not all are residents or visitors staying at the hotels. How is it that we vet the people?

You've never gone, have you?

No.

To the food part? No. So you get through the chair. You have to show your community center card. And then you get a wristband for the number of kids. And you get tickets for the food. And you only get that through the community center card. Okay. and tickets for a t-shirt. So that's how it's regulated.

It's a big deal.

Yeah, it's really the biggest one, I think.

Yes, it is. We had 1,200 family funding, and we're expecting more people.

Do you have a breakdown on demographics? I don't understand why we don't move forward with non-kosher.

I don't mind.

I'm comfortable with any of them. I'm just saying it is a big change because in the previous years it's always been kosher. So I don't know how the residents would view that.

Is there any opportunity to have kosher and non-kosher?

We can. Of course we can. Just like get to Halloween, Wednesday, Christmas, they had both. Kosher is in one set of tents and the non-kosher is in the other set of tents.

It's basically the same menu, wouldn't you agree?

It's basically the same menu, it's just this is kosher cooked food and non-kosher.

Well, for this specific event, the non-kosher food would be getting made in front of everyone. And the kosher food would be packaged. And being heat.

And you can choose either one.

Right. The issue is, I don't know how people will view that, being that their food is just being heated and other individuals are seeing their food being made right in front of them. I'm just looking at everything.

Well, they probably know the rules on Saturday. They've got to know the rules. You're trying to accommodate.

I'm trying to accommodate as much as I can. And it's the aroma catering, which is a catering that they're very familiar with, and they should be aware of. This is something that we could also put out in writing ahead of time.

Well, I'm presenting this at the commission meeting on April 14th to make a discussion.

I want to phone a rabbi is what I wanted to. It's apples and oranges. Yeah, yeah. But I think we need to have both.

If we have one, we should have the other.

But we need to... What catering did you use for the other?

Is it the... South Florida events or something like that?

Yeah, yeah. The same people that put up the amusement rides and stuff? This is going from a wedding in your backyard to a wedding at the Fountain Blue Hilton. Because we used to have the Kiwanis Club a hundred years ago. The Kiwanis Club cooked hot dogs. The Kiwanis Club sold beer. And that was 4th of July. A hot dog and a beer. That sounds American. Right. Now we're having a wedding at the Fountain Blue Hilton. But that's what people expected with us now.

I've worked at other cities and I've heard, have you guys been to that Surfside 4th of July? This is a public event. I have friends that work at... And what did they say? That Surfside Easily is one of the top two or three in the town. Well, in Miami they count. Like even City of Coral Gables, I have friends that work over there that do the billboard. And they have told me... Surf says 4th of July is no joke.

It's a different monster. You feel like Spencer Tracy, the father of the bride.

That's right. I know the importance of this event. I know the people are going to be hungry.

It's also the chicken and the egg. The more you promote and the more you... But it's kind of expected now.

Because the tourist sport treats it that way. All the events that are going on right now, there's all kosher and non-kosher lines.

It's just that with our community evolving, this is what... If we want all residents to come out, we have to...

Put off everybody.

Correct. It's respect for everybody. You just can't have a Costco hot dog anymore.

It's sponsored by the government.

Yes.

But that's a good thing you brought to us though. So we're asking that you talk to the... I feel much better that I know that they're handling the whole thing. Yeah, it's in their hands.

Right. So with that said, non-kosher is prepared on site that day? Do they pre-prepare things also the night before?

No, if it's non-kosher, they could prep and do everything the same day. It doesn't really do anything.

They use the concession stand, don't they?

Just to store the refreshments and stuff like that and the seasonings, but everything is pretty visible outside.

Can I make a suggestion through the chair? There's a resident, long-time resident in Surfside. Gary Lampner, he has a company called Egg Whites that's one of the top catering companies. Maybe you reach out to them and they can do both. They could do kosher.

And they do it with pricing?

You know, whatever it is. And they live in Surfside?

And they live in Surfside. Yeah, he's been in Surfside for 35 years.

We also have to stay within our budget. The commercial kitchen is... Tell them what that sort of budget is.

It's right here in North Miami. It's an ask.

And they might get into the tourist board and other events we have. Show us what you got.

And again, I mean, we're not really in the business of filling everyone's bellies. It's a gesture, it's a token, it's a party, it's a, you know, rooted in nationalism and all this stuff. If you want a Fourth of July picnic, it's not what it is. It's the fireworks.

Yeah.

And some, you know, neighborhood getting together, people getting together. Yes. It's the diverse community. You don't have to feed the armies. And it's kind of nice when you run out of food. In my opinion, I like to run out of food because I don't want a lot of leftovers.

Are you going to come to this one?

We don't have a lot of left over.

Yeah, you're good at that. They're Thursdays. They run out.

And I think there's ample time to get it right.

That's key.

Yeah.

That's good thinking ahead, Rudy. Key.

Anything else on that? No, thank you.

Okay. I asked Rudy and Genesis to add 4G to the agenda. I just have a few thoughts. We have a serious problem in town with teens. Not only with the e-bikes and the scooters, but they are gathering at night and in the dark in the tot lot. There are major cameras in the tot lot, which I've asked chief, I've asked manager, I've asked Rudy. Who's monitoring the cameras? Well, they're monitored as possible. In other words, nobody sits here and watches all the cameras. The cameras do not have the same capabilities as my cameras at school, where if, I've explained before, if I'm there at eight o'clock at night and the only people that are on campus are the custodians and me, no children, Then when I had cameras on, I had monitors on my desk with the cameras, a light would flash, the camera would flash. So I knew that, it would catch your eye that something was there. I'm just worried that something's going to happen to one of our little teens in the park, or on the street, or wherever they're gathering. And I looked into it and it hit me that we have a lot of programming for seniors. We have a lot of programming for families. We don't have a teen room. If you remember in the old community center, you walk through the little low roof room, on the right was a game room, a teen room. So I did a little bit of research and I found out that Towns go through the same thing. They don't think. They think of families. They don't think of teens. And I'm talking teens. I'm talking 12 to 14 year olds. By 15, they're starting to get driver's licenses. By 16, they're driving. They should be working. So they're not gathering. These kids that are coming out are 12 to 14.

Do you hear them where you are?

I hear them, yes.

Are they playing music? Are they loud?

No, they're jumping the fence and there's just a large group of them.

They're called tweeners.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Right.

The park is closed at dusk. And it is, now that it, no, it'll, it's later now, but...

And not being in the top lot, are the fences high? No.

They're four foot. They fly over it. They're shorter than the kids. And I'm sure Rudy gets tired of me sending him pictures every time that I see him in there.

Do the police come or not?

I call the police on a regular basis. And with what's going on in our town and the world, When we only have two officers on duty, maybe three, and we're covering three temples, there's not somebody to come down and say, Johnny, get out of the tot lot.

Is it adequately lit, the tot lot, at night? No, it's pitch black.

There's one street light out. At dusk, it's closed. It's right on the sign. And you're not supposed to be in the top light if you're under 10, over 10.

So there's no night light, nothing that goes on, motion sensors?

No. There's one street light that falls right on the ramp as you're going in. They're on the streets, they're gathering at night, and they have nowhere to meet. The police have better things to do anyway than to chase.

Do they patrol the back streets? Sure. They're around all the time.

And I'm sure that they've stopped them before. But they also have a big problem with these e-bikes and scooters, which we've discussed. The teens, they're around adult supervision at school. They're adults at home with their parents, except the one that doesn't eat. They need some freedom. They need a social interaction. This is why I'm suggesting, and I would like to go get your thoughts, and plus bring in representatives from the team board. Our team board is kind of...

Youth council, you mean? Or not?

Youth council.

I just wanted to make sure we were talking to the same people.

I don't know these children, I've seen them at events. They seem to be a highly intellectual group of children. Not your average teen. Some of the research that shows is that they have comfortable seating in a room. They have, you know, we don't need a jukebox anymore or something like that because all they need is Bluetooth speakers because they got all their phone, they got all their music in their phone. They have games, cards. They have foosball tables. Remember old foosball tables? It's just a place to gather.

Where?

We have two choices. The rec room of the second floor of the new 96th Street Park, except for when we have events. And Rudy and I spoke There's not a whole, we don't have events there all the time. But the teens, if this was to happen, would have to understand, hey, we're having a senior Valentine's Day dance tonight. We need to be closed Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday because we're having this senior dance we need to set up. And you're welcome to come out. Or with not having after school tutoring or programming with the Y or anything like that in the fishbowl, is that what you call it? That room to the left where we used to have meetings?

Yes.

That room is a possibility. Except, can I finish? Yeah. Please. I'm real hard to rush through this. I really am. But you don't see it. You live in condo. You don't see what we have in the residential area. And I'm hoping that whatever new mayor gets in here takes it seriously because the mayor we've had for two, three terms before who lives in the neighborhood doesn't do anything about it. These children are going to get hurt.

I'm concerned also. Okay. But what time of the day are you talking about?

I'm getting to that. I'm sorry I talk a lot, but I want to make my point. The park is open until 9 o'clock at night because that's when the basketball court shuts down, correct? So you have after school until 9 o'clock at night. Take a walk over to the park at 3 o'clock. Take a walk tomorrow at 2. That's always a fun thing. Where they're all gathered at 96th Street. I did today. They're all gathered there on their electric bikes and electric scooters. There is supervision at the park. Now I'm not saying there's going to be the park attendant. It's not there to watch them. I feel better about the fishbowl, it's a little more visible, but that's only open till eight now, with swimming. Till eight, there's staff there till eight.

Is it lifeguards, or is there staff?

So you have one staff there and one staff there. From the research that I've done with other cities, they don't have a staff member to be in charge of the tea room. There's no checking out of games and things like that. They're expected to be somewhat mature to be able to handle that. Like I know with the park, don't they hand out balls and things?

We do, but they have to check in. Right. We don't just hand them out.

Okay. So in the future, if this was to happen, I don't see this happening anytime soon, but especially with the new commission coming in, but I plan on speaking to the new commission about the same thing. And I just think that We've done programs for seniors, programs for families, but we've kind of left those tweeners out on the streets. And they don't want to be, they want to be with themselves, they don't want to be supervised. And I know the Youth Council does field trips and things like that, which I'll bet you these guys and girls don't include themselves. There is girls and guys. So, if you have any thoughts.

My thoughts were, I wanted to know, what are the hours that you hear them in the park, in the tot lot?

Seven, eight, nine.

Okay. And I know the tot... But that's just the park. They're everywhere. And I know the tot lot is way out there. I've been to it. But where is it located again?

90th and Hawthorne. By the bay, on the bay side.

I remember when we redid it. So, that was my question about the time of this, like it's dark. Do you know about how many kids are hanging out?

I've seen ten, fifteen kids in there. I've seen them with their e-bikes in there. I've seen them with their scooters racing around the circle. I've seen them, you know, the next thing they're going to break the equipment and then the tots aren't going to have anywhere to play.

So where do you, do you see them checking into the 96th Street? Like you said, I was just there. I just happened to walk by.

It's a public park, you don't have to check in.

They go there because they can be on their own, by themselves, after supper, they get out there a little bit, and then they gotta go home. The tweeners are, you know, they're too old for Chuck E. Cheese, and they're too young for South Beach. And this is a neglected group, I think is what you're saying.

Believe me, there's lots of municipalities that think the same way, because there's lots of articles on it.

It's a very awkward age. I think that the idea has merit. If we can approach the youth council, they're a little older, more responsible, but they're the right bridge. So if you go directly to the kids, they're going to blow you off. But if you go to the youth council and plant a seed with them, perhaps there's something that could happen. They don't need anything but each other, to be honest. I mean, a pool table or something. It's not about that. They just need a little bit of time. The supervision has to be very passive so they can just sort of be on their own. 96th Street Park is a great spot for that because the eyes are there. But, you know, kids, they make mistakes at times. They don't, not always do the right thing. And so there's a bunch of stuff there. I think we need to look at this further and work with the youth council. One of the comments. I'm sorry.

Go ahead. I just wasn't quite finished, but that's a great idea. But also, The 96th Street Park is open until 9, and your idea was until 9?

Because there's an attendant there until 9.

Why aren't they there right now then? And the same thing, would they go? Because there's... Or you're saying maybe get a pool table or something to... I don't know. I don't want anything...

I mean, if you had the fishbowl, I could see a pool table. We have ping pong tables out here.

Yeah, but why aren't they at the community center now until 8 or... 96th Street in Plumine already.

Are they gonna go? They know at the top lot there's no PD or a recreation staff there. At 96th Street Park there is a recreation staff there, so if they get out of hand

All I'm saying is, will they go?

I just remember that the game room over here was packed. There was always kids in there. I used to be in there.

And also the logistics. Would they walk at night?

They don't walk anywhere. They don't walk. They fly 80 miles an hour down Hawthorne Avenue on one wheel. Jesus. Sorry, sorry.

They don't walk.

They all have transportation.

I'm glad I didn't get run over today.

When my grandson was here, a couple of guys came down the street, and one came down the street on a bicycle. And I said, can you, excuse me, can I ask you a question? And he had a helmet on, but it's not strapped. And I said, could you do me a favor? I said, you know, from a parent who's had a child in rider trauma who was in the side of a car on a motorcycle. You know, it's not a pretty sight. Could you strap your helmet? I see him, I've seen him a half dozen times since then. Every time I see him, his helmet's strapped now. So I'm like, okay, I've sunk something into one of the, but he was on a bicycle. But these other guys, today, one again, you know, Coming down Bay Drive, two girls, two on one scooter, one on another, no helmet. I'm stopping at the stop sign. They both went both sides of me down Bay Drive. They don't stop. No. But one of the articles says, it improves their feelings of safety, excitement, and autonomy. They want to test their boundaries. but this would build confidence, according to the research that I've done, that it builds confidence in them that they have a place to go. It would have to be advertised, it would have to, like you said, come from the youths.

How old is the youth council? The youth council are all high school kids.

All high school.

Junior and seniors.

Okay, so they're more mature. But I was going to get, I would like to talk to them and get their ideas about, if they had a place to go to hang out, what would they want?

And what would attract them there? Yeah. That's a good point.

What would make them come is what I'm saying.

Open to them now.

Right. Through the chair, in the meanwhile, can we put some motion sensor lights at the top lot so that if there are people there, there's some lighting? I have them in my house. There's something you can bring up to the manager. They're solar powered motion sensor lights. They just go on and off.

And then with the police, do the police come then?

I'm going to interrupt Rudy's private life again. Those cameras aren't on your phone, are they? If the kids just speak. Just on their phones?

No, it's on the dashboard.

No, but new cameras at schools are on principals' phones. So, I mean, they call me at 3 o'clock in the morning because the fire alarm went off and the camera went off. Now I can look at my phone and see what camera went off.

So would that be how it would work? Would somebody be notified that the motion sensors are going off?

Well, we don't have those in place.

No, I know, but...

They just don't like bright lights, so if you want to discourage them...

They probably like the dark.

Yeah, yeah.

You're one of those lights that got on the TV. I was a kid once.

I was saying, you remember those days, don't you?

We went to the beach underneath the lifeguard stands. That was a great spot. If you build it, will they come? I don't know.

It could be. It doesn't have to be.

We have jailhouse lights all night long, but Right, because your neighbors would be very upset.

Raccoon can set them off.

It's not a big deal. It's a simple fix that might help. Right, George?

I was supposed to be at 630, but you weren't talking out. Yeah, well, I'm good.

So if you just take that idea back to the manager and...

I mean, I could get quotes to see what the pricing is for... We probably would need like two, right? Maybe? Both on the east side or the west side.

More than $2 or $30 on Amazon.

But I'm just... We need them to sync to the cameras. So that's an additional problem. I don't know what it would be. Sync to the camera? For video, no. Is there a camera... Is there a camera there now? Yeah, yeah. They're not watching them. They're dispatching them.

They're dispatching them. Wouldn't that be a good job for me? I'll volunteer to watch the camera.

Surveillance camera all night. Give you access to the camera? No, I'll sit up down there. Hold on, hold on. There's cameras at the top. Correct. There's cameras everywhere in the town.

Everywhere you're being watched.

But at night it's dark. But they have to pick something up in the dark. I'm debating because of the...

But if you look for it...

Aside from the surveillance aspect, if there's motion sensor lights, it might... help the kids to behave a little better or it might deter them from hanging out there.

I'll try to be there. I'm debating.

And if nothing else, they're going to be illuminated on the surveillance camera if you should have to look at the camera. Meanwhile, let kids be kids. Bye, Martha.

Bye. Bye, Martha.

And in the long term, yes, the kids, they should be folded into the programming. You can see how it works.

Those teens will find a way to cope.

Yeah.

Eventually. That's what I was thinking. I mean, I don't know.

That's what I was thinking.

You know, like, I know that during a couple weekends ago, you called PD and alerted them to go down and see. But again, is there someone scheduled to lock the gate? I know they're flying over the fence. But I've seen them open the gate, too.

Our custodian is always closing the gate at some point.

No, they're not.

They're not? No, they're not.

Tell them to take a picture and text it to you. I'm walking the gate. That's what I used to do with custodians. I hate to tell you. Custodians are supposed to be there 11 o'clock at night. I go over there at 9, poof, ain't nobody there but me, myself, and I. All right. New business, senior programming. You done?

What is that?

I'm just sitting here. Okay. I made notes so we could get through this quickly, but I also, I wanted to talk about the calendar for senior programming. So I've been attending the adult senior programming 55 plus since I was able to get them free for Surfside. The classes have subsequently increased in attendance since then. And last week at one of the classes, it was brought to my attention of the class, that Starting next Monday, March 23rd through April 10th, there will not be any classes for three consecutive weeks due to spring break, six days, which seniors do not fit into that profile, and Passover, nine days, that should not take precedence over an adult senior personal religious choice. The community center is a public facility, and adult seniors can choose whether they want to attend or not adult seniors should not be prohibited from classes due to religious preferences. Likewise, mid-February... This is for you. Oh, okay. I made copies for everyone. Likewise, mid-February, February 16th through April 2nd, there were three consecutive Mondays where there was no class due to President's Day on... February 16th maintenance, February 23rd, and the Jewish holiday at Purim on 4-2, which no one has said they've ever had no class on that day. Furthermore, there are no adult senior classes the entire week of February 23rd because there were none because the center was closed for pool maintenance, but it did not affect the fishbowl area where the classes are held. Adult seniors need routine consistency, social interaction, creativity, and considerations to stay healthy and keep the body and brain moving. We need to be more thoughtful in program planning, and we need to have these classes on March 23rd through April 10th. The class last week that I attended, five out of the 15 wanted to march over, but I do want to end that day. It's Tuesday. to say they're Jewish and they don't want these classes to stop during Jewish holidays. It's never happened before. So I implore everyone to take into consideration the inconsistencies that are going on for the seniors with the classes and we just need to be more thoughtful in the planning and I would like to have the director looking to having these classes March 23rd through April 10th. Everyone is so upset. The seniors are really upset that there's no classes for three weeks. Is the instructor Jewish? One of them is.

Is that a reason? I don't know.

I don't know. One of them is, but none of the others. They're saying they would, you know, do you want to come to my house? There's no reason why we close the fishbowl because of Passover for nine days.

What's the answer, Rudy?

And they've never been closed for Purim, and they were this year.

So the week of the 23rd, that's the Miami-Dade County Public Schools spring break.

But we're not kids. Why are the classes canceled? These instructors teach adult senior classes, exercise classes. It's not the kids' classes. It's not 96th Street.

So in previous years, they've always had this week no programming to run along everybody from seniors all the way down to our kids so how i've been explained when we do this obviously yes the senior programs are free but we still pay the instructors at the town so it's still in the budget this this budget was proposed i I implement, they gave me this budget. I didn't make this budget. So it was made off of the budget that we cannot run classes for these weeks because we will go over the budget. They weren't scheduled.

That's not right. That's not right. You can go to, there's ways to get money for the budget. I'm just, people, the seniors are really upset.

So in the past, we've always closed senior program during spring break. Yes.

Because?

Same reason.

It wasn't in the budget.

No. This is for the Passover. The spring break. That's spring break. For Passover.

I'm on spring break. It wasn't in the budget.

For spring break, just for all the programs to run aligned. For all the programs.

Do we have spring break camp? Yes. Will the children be in the fishbowl?

No. I don't know what the YMCA is. They're going to be transferring them over for usage for the pool. Oh, that's right. They're going to be over there. Correct. I forget we got a whole shebang over there. So if they provide that weekly schedule, if they're going to be using the pool at any time, I'll have that updated.

But that doesn't utilize the fishbowl.

Right. To my knowledge, I don't believe not. No. If they needed to eat a snack or anything, they probably would utilize the fishbowl. They usually eat outside.

And these classes are all day?

Yes. There's various... Yes.

Well, I have a...

Most of the seniors, they want these classes because it's free. Right. In the past, they weren't free, and they weren't attending.

Okay, because we need them.

Because they weren't free, that's why they weren't attending.

But we're on limited budgets. That's how we got it free.

And now we're all attending. I don't mind revisiting this. Obviously, I would implement it coming up. But from what I'm given now, it's very difficult.

I wonder if... I guess I'm going to ask you, spring break is kind of tight, but for the next two weeks, is to find out what it would cost to have the instructor come in for the classes.

Correct. For example, if I have an instructor that I've already budgeted only, for example, 15 classes for the year, and then with these additional weeks, I'm adding three more And then there are multiple instructors. Because if I do one instructor, I got low. That's just how it works. They're all going to want to get it.

Maybe the manager would supplement. Like Marion says, in a budget, there's ways to get it. You do a budget transfer. Yes, exactly. If Parks needs $500 because the pool blew up, the money's got to come from somewhere because it's not in that budget. It's got to come from the trash people. It's got to come from the police department. It's got to come from Mario's pocket. I'm just saying it's worth asking.

No, it's something I'm going to ask. I spoke to Marianne, I want to say last week, Friday, was it?

Yeah, because this came up, people are upset. And I don't understand nine days of Passover.

Explain that one. Well, there are different holidays during that time period. It's just not Passover.

We need... We need more time.

I happen to be talking to Shlomo only because he previously was on the what? I didn't hear it, but what did you say?

I didn't say nothing.

Oh, because I'm used to sitting next to him on the commission. Um, but, um, he was on, um, Parks and Rec and, and I was talking to him about these Jewish holidays and he said that Tim would come to him and he'd say, no, you know, you can't do that. So that's why I don't understand. You know, he said, if you're, if you have a religious belief, then you don't come to it.

Did he, did, when you spoke to, uh, former mayor, did he confirm that it's always been like this in the past? Because I've looked at the calendars from previous years and they've all been blocked off like this.

He said when, you know, they came to him and asked him. That's what he said. He said, to his knowledge, it's never been that way.

So you will... I would approach this, if I were you, I would say that it's going to cost an additional $1,000. Is there any chance that this could be put into our budget from another source so we can keep the programming going? I can't see spring break happening because that's next week, but I could see the next two weeks if he okays it. Or is he agreed to go in the black or the red at the end of the year?

Tomorrow. We don't know.

I'm just saying, when you go into a negative at the end of the year, is that a black or a red? When you go into a red at the end of the year, is he okay with going into the red at the end of the year for programming? Well, listen, because we agreed to it, because the commission agreed to it, and they okayed it after you inherited this budget. So I don't know. Like I said, there's always money somewhere.

Yes. And being on the tourist board, the same thing. There's always money There was always money. I had to get up and stand before the commissions at some points. There was money. Because this is something new and it's critical for this age group who, if not, they're just going to sit in their condo alone or apartment alone and alone and get isolated and loneliness and depression.

Yeah. No, their scheduling is not new. This has been like this. I'm just saying. I mean, if we could correct it, yes.

I'm saying, I'm just saying what happens when something like this is in front of us. Correct. It's in front of the adults. They're all upset. Thank you for

When this was like this last year, were they upset?

I didn't bring this up last year.

Well, like you said, it wasn't free. You didn't have the same need.

I didn't bring this up last year.

Because it wasn't free.

Yeah. I started investigating this in September, October down in Miami Beach for the senior classes because at that point I wasn't working and I wanted to exercise and I didn't have money to spend like this on all the classes I wanted to take and it should be free like it was there and that's how you know I eventually got it here thank you for listening to me those two months and it's really important for seniors you don't know how important it is for them and where I was going was only a senior center so I saw it first hand so thank you for your time and

get your numbers.

And it's doable. Marianna, is it possible if the week of the fit, maybe if I can pull some classes, maybe he won't approve all of them, but would a few interest you? If some of the ones that you like or that we have more attendance for?

Well, do you want to talk offline? But it's really the silver sneakers and she's a problem, but...

Do we care? Because if I just come forward and say we need classes.

Well, let's talk about it. What specific classes?

Can we talk about it tomorrow? It's election day. Talk specific.

What you got? Oh, okay.

I thought you wanted me to get out of here.

These are legitimate agreements. I don't know what it will be the rest of my life. I'll tell you what it's good. Concern for obviously the budget and things have explanations. I'm just curious looking at this. We're looking at two months, right? February, March. Marching. How does the rest of the year look? I mean, have we... I didn't get that far.

You know, I'm just curious. No, this is the biggest gap by far.

The rest of the year we have programs like this. It's the biggest gap.

From what I've seen in the previous years, I looked at 2025 and 2024, this has always been the biggest gap. That spring break for the kids and obviously the religious reasons.

But also it's when the snowbirds come during this time. I mean, they don't want spring break. This is like snowbird time.

We're seniors. The pool's still open. The beach's still open.

It's just the programming. The programming. Of which, you know, I can tell you right now, people like Zumba Gold, they love the art class, Silver Sneakers, Dance Fusion.

Because I know also our instructors, if they don't have a substitute, Because a lot of them, they know this is coming, so they plan the vacations.

That might be a problem.

We have substitutes for our instructors, but I know some of our instructors don't.

A lot of them, like, is it Maria Elena who does Zumba? She offers to go to her house for it.

I don't recommend that to you guys.

I know, I know, but because she knows that... Here's an extra one. What time do these classes happen?

I've got a concern from a resident. That's why I'm just going to piggyback. So 9 to 10, okay.

That's extra if you want it.

Okay.

It depends the day and time. Yeah. The days are different and obviously the class steps.

Ages 18 to 54. Holy crud. I'm out of that one. That's the one I was going to go to.

But look below it. It's the same class. It's the identical class.

Did you see that we're adding calisthenics?

I did. I just saw that today.

Calisthenics.

I've been involved in trying to get other classes that seniors are asking for.

We got one.

So far. Rudy did get one on for me, calisthenics. I got information for him. It's a similar, she does other classes, so she piggybacks, and I think she would be available also for her classes. She wants to, she knows, these people know the seniors. They know how much they love it.

Has Maria reached out to you?

Not to me, no.

She probably will because she's a little upset. Did you talk to her? I've been in contact with her about the process to...

Does she understand it or not?

So she got me the proposal, how we told you. She finally got me the proposal. This is for Pilates. So I've been in contact with another yoga instructor. And I needed a proposal. But she kept sending me a proposal through an email chain. I said, that's not the way to do it. I need a PDF or a Word document. Something presentable. Correct. So now, I'm telling her, okay, this is fine, this is approved, I like it, but now I need to know, to be a vendor for the town, you have to provide proof of insurance, you have to confirm your business on Sunbiz, and you need to obviously have a proof of insurance, Sunbiz and the E-Verify. Today, in the email she wrote to me, she didn't have that.

She told me she had it.

She said she doesn't have an LLC and she doesn't have proof of insurance.

They told us we'd have a school bus too. We don't have that. People lie.

But she's a substitute on Sunday for Hatha Yoga.

Correct. But she's getting paid through Andre. He's the one that's insured with us and has the LLC and the e-verify.

And she's a yoga teacher for seniors.

at the standard hotel that has nothing to do with the town i know i'm just saying but if she wants to be a vendor and have her own practice here there she has to be her own company she has to be her own vendor either an lsc have her own business and then obviously she has to insure the town through her insurance

Wasn't she a substitute, though, for Happy Yoga on Sunday?

She's a substitute under Andre.

Using the other contractor's license.

But can she do that?

I pulled the permit, but he's doing the work.

On another day.

If she's substituting, we, so the town, when Andre provides the invoice to us, so we cut a check to him, and how he distributes it to his teachers, that's on him. That's not on us. But Andre's the responsible part in the contract.

Then he would be responsible for her if she did it on Thursday.

If she's substituting, it's however they decide the dates and the times, that's on Andre. But Andre's the responsible part. She wants to be her own vendor and make her own date and time and have her own class.

I told her to talk to Andre.

I don't know what else to say. If she copycats everything Andre did, she could be a vendor.

So, I mean, if you want to pay me, I'll dig deeper and deeper into this, but I'm just joking.

I can't feel my fingers.

I know. You should feel my hands.

So, well, that's a good point. Hopefully you can work something out with the manager to get some all...

I can't promise I can get all of them.

So did you check off the classes I recommended, or...?

I have calisthenics, we added that, and then I'm trying to see now.

Zumba gold.

Zumba gold. Oh, for the week of.

Yeah, just check off the Zumba gold. What do you mean boxing? Adult art.

What do you mean boxing?

Silver sneakers. I don't know if you can do that or not. Dance fusion. And happy yoga. That's really long.

You're a busy little bee, aren't you?

Because, you know, I see these things, I feel them, just like you are with the kids. I'm with this. I'm passionate about it. I've done a lot of homework, like you.

You need to call that bus company more and yell at them.

I would be... Forget it. But I'd also be on the police, and I'd also be on the town manager. I mean, and I know you were. No, I am. But there's no reason.

Regularly. The chief stopped by twice.

As well as the tot lot. Yeah. And FYI, I did walk, I had to take my car in, so I walked from Bay Harbor Chevron. And I thought, well, let me check out the new garden that I missed on Sunday because I went to church. But it was canceled and you're rescheduling it?

The garden?

The garden thing on Sunday? No, that happened. Was that the garden?

The garden clock was beautiful.

I missed it. Then I walked over to the garden. That was my main reason.

That garden's a lot better.

It's so pretty.

It's not overgrown. It's gorgeous. It was pretty when they first put it in, and then it got severely overgrown.