Town Council - Regular Meeting
The Golden Beach Town Council held a regular meeting on March 17, 2026, honoring long-serving staff and the town manager, approving several infrastructure and fee resolutions, and selecting a gym equipment vendor.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- Town Council
- Meeting Type
- Town Council
- Location
- Golden Beach, FL
- Meeting Date
- March 17, 2026
Transcript
676 sections
Good evening, everybody.
I want to welcome everybody to the March 17th, 2026 regular town council meeting. Time called for 6 p.m. Time is approximately 6.04 p.m. Welcome, everybody. Town clerk, if you could officially call the meeting to order. Roll call, please.
Mayor Singer. Here. Vice Mayor Mendel.
Here.
Council Member Luskin. Here. Council Member Bernstein. Here. Council Member Einstein. Here.
Thank you. If everyone could please rise. Chief Rudy Habello, if you could lead us in the pledge.
It would be appreciated.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you, and again, everyone, welcome. First on the agenda are presentations and proclamations. We first wanna present the budget award, and this is a distinguished award presented to the town of Golden Beach. This will be the fourth year, more. 17th year, we only have four stickers. 17th year that the town of Golden Beach is presented with this Distinguished Budget Award, and I have to congratulate the town manager, the finance department, Maria Camacho, and everybody, because it was a team effort, Linda Epperson, the assistant manager, and your whole staff, Alex, for this great achievement. And once again, we achieved this beautiful award. So I present this to, is Maria here?
Yeah. Mr. Mayor, let me just real quick. Come on up. I think it's important that we talk about what the Distinguished Budget Award is. So we started the program in 2009. It was the first time that we applied for the budget award. And what this does is it gets... It's a national award that recognizes public excellence in budgeting. If you haven't had a chance, and I know most of you have, to review our budget, our budget serves not only as our financial tool, but it is our capital plan. It is our strategic business plan. It calls for all of our matrix. And our finance department, under the leadership of Ms. Guerra, now, has been able to achieve this award every year. And every year, it gets tougher and tougher to maintain the award. It's peer reviewed by other finance directors throughout the United States. And they do go page by page and critique things like whether or not we're meeting our matrix, whether or not our investment policies make sense if we're aligned with them. In addition to recognizing Maria's hard work and excellence, I also want to recognize Ingrid Gooding, Marie Talley, and introduce a new member of our finance team, Ms. Tramia Holmes, who's going to be joining our team. Stand up, be recognized. We just brought her on board this year as part of our attrition planning and success planning, it's always important to bring in staff members in early to learn our process. So Tramia joins us from, she was working with the city of Jacksonville and just recently with the city of Fort Lauderdale. So has vast experience in working with larger organizations. And so we welcome Ms. Holmes to our team and to our family. Welcome. And Maria, I just want to personally, we know the long hours that you and Lissette and the rest of the team and Ingrid and Marie put in, checking the numbers, making sure that we've done it. You've done it now for 22 years. And under your leadership, our town has maintained a stellar credit rating, clean audits throughout. And I could not be prouder to have you on our executive team. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to the town. Do you wish to say anything?
Thank you. Maria, real quick, one other thing that you guys do a phenomenal job that I know the residents appreciate is the town budget summary that we present to all the homeowners during the budget year. It's a brief summary of the budget for the fiscal year, And in fact, when we went up to Tallahassee, all the representatives that we presented this presentation to commented like, you guys are the only cities that do this. And they were so impressed with our little mini budget. And so I commend you on that as well and present you with this award.
Let's take pictures.
You don't have anything to say?
Excellent. The next presentation is extremely honored to present the town manager who was presented the 250 champion of public service recognition. And tonight it's my honor to recognize town manager Alexander Diaz for an extraordinary national achievement. The National Academy of Public Administration, a congressionally chartered and nonpartisan organization has selected our town manager as just one of 250 champions of public service across the entire United States in honor of America's 250th anniversary. This recognition is especially meaningful as it comes from a nationwide pool of nominees representing all levels of government and all areas in public service. Each honoree was nominated by their peers, demonstrating excellent leadership and lasting impact on their communities. Here in Miami-Dade County, only a very special number of individuals were selected for this distinct award, including Mayor of Miami-Dade County, the Village Manager of Bell Harbor, to be recognized alongside leaders that caliber speaks volumes about Alex's reputation and his impact in the field of public administration. Alex has dedicated 35 years to public service, including 25 years in public administration, and has served for the town manager since 2007. Under his leadership, our town has become a model of innovation, professionalism, and excellent in local government. What makes this recognition even more special is that only a small number of individuals nationwide are being honored to this level. placing Alex Diaz among the best in public service. On behalf of the town council, the town residents, we congratulate our town manager, Alexander Diaz, and we wanna thank you for your unwavering commitment, your leadership, and your service to our community and the nation. Alex. And with this award, we're going to present you with a check of $2. I only got two of you to contribute.
Congratulations.
I can tell you, I'm one of the individuals that really hired Alex Diaz 18 years ago, Alexander Diaz. And he's been such a great addition to the town. And he's such a great addition. I know he's active among managers throughout the state, throughout the country. He takes leadership positions. He does a phenomenal job with the town staff. He does a phenomenal job with the town council. And he does an unbelievable job with the town residents. So, Alex, you deserve that award. We are so pleased to present that to you. And congratulations. Great job.
Thank you.
All right moving along motion to set agenda additions deletions removal of items from the consent agenda or changes to the agenda I have none town No town administration There is a new agenda face sheet that was on the dais.
There's no material changes to the agenda. I
We're good with everything? Perfect. Moving right along, good and welfare. Town clerk, anyone here for good and welfare?
Yes, sir. Mr. Levenfish?
He got off the golf course. Go ahead.
You swing pretty good, Lord. What I'd like to say is what an incredible difference the beach towns have made to the beach. The whole experience is much better. What was simply a beach facility now truly feels like we've got a proper beach club. It's elevated the atmosphere and the experience in a way that adds real prestige to Golden Beach as a town. I appreciate that this is a meaningful investment for you guys to fund and to maintain, but it's unquestionably enhanced the quality and reputation of the town. Now, we may not be rivaling the beach clubs of the south of France, but, hey, we're getting there. I also think it's very important that we recognise Chad and the entire team on the beach. They do a fantastic job ensuring everyone is safe, comfortable, and well looked after. The towel service adds another layer of responsibility for them, and they do it seemingly, and I think that's really very important that they get that recognition. Finally, and this is important, If anyone happens to spot golden beach towels on eBay with the name of Leavenfish selling them, it's nothing to do with me.
Sure. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Anyone else for Aguna Welfare? No, sir. OK, moving right along. We have mayor's report. Mine's going to be real quick. I have two items. One is, you know, spring break is here. So there's a lot of children running around. Can't urge the residents enough to be careful when you're driving through town, especially at night. A lot of people walk not on the sidewalk in the streets or ride their bikes in the street and wear black. Why? I don't know. And they're very it's difficult to spot him. So going slow solves that problem. Second thing is on Tuesday, March 31st, in this room at 7 p.m., we're having the mayor's speaker series called Health Matters. Aventura Hospital is putting out a presentation. They have four doctors, but they're going to have a fifth doctor on the panel is going to speak about health and wellness for women. This will be our second one, third mayor's speakers conference, but second one done by Aventura Hospital. I'm on the board of the hospital and I can tell you right now, they take it very seriously and they're really excited about coming here. The last event they did was phenomenal. We've got four renowned doctors coming. There'll be a fifth speaking on various issues with women, whether it be breast surgical issues, gynecology, cardiologists, psychiatrists, alternative medicine, It's going to be a great presentation. They last probably about 90 minutes. You can ask questions and I urge you to come and invite your neighbors as it's going to be a great presentation. So again, that's March 31st, 7 p.m. in this room here. And we'll put out numerous notices. But that's basically all I have. We've got a lot on the agenda. So next is council comments. I'll start with Vice Mayor Mandel. No comments. I'll go to the other side. Councilman Ben Einstein.
Just real quickly on the budget. Great. Alex, unbelievable. And, you know, for all the people here in this town, all the residents in the community, I mean, look at what we have. It is just amazing. The Wellness Center is going up. It's almost like a miracle what's going on in this town. As I sit in here, I still pinch myself. It is truly amazing. Alex, you have a lot to do with it. Mayor, administration, everybody, council, thanks for making this happen and the public for supporting us. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll turn to, I'll go, Councilwoman Luskin.
Congratulations, Alex. You did it again. I mentioned last meeting, if we could just double check on it, cars parking on the sidewalks. It's particularly construction sites. It's a little bit dangerous. We have some new people, I think, working in public works, if we could just remind them. that when they take the garbage, they close the gates and then reopen them and close them again when they bring it back. Because I'm getting a few calls here and there that dogs are getting out. And last but not least, we have somebody here that's part of our Golden Beach Youth Leadership Group, Mia Matsakovich. And we are honored she's here today. Raise your hand, Mia. Mia just got awarded from Miami Country Day School the South Florida Star Student Award. presented by my sixth grade, right? Sixth grade with the Golden Beach Youth Leader. Fifth grade. Fifth? And I'd love you to come up here and have a picture taken with council. Her proud parents are here also. The whole family is here.
Congratulations. That's it. Thank you, Councilman Bernstein.
I was so happy to hear President come forward and talk about our beach I've all for almost 19 years ago when I first came on here I've always been pitching that this beach that we have is a gem like the gem of the community and once we really create it and make it amazing it's just gonna appreciate the values and make this community even more desirable and I feel like we've come so far and getting so close to making it even better and better every time seeing that the towels there It was amazing. It's just one more step. I think we always talked about, hey, how do we make this like Fisher Island? How do we make it like I think it was the Turnberry Beach Club when we first opened that we compared it to, which is a long gone. But, you know, I know that we had some issues with people not returning towels. And I just I don't want to see this become a budgetary item where all of a sudden we lose the towels. You and I have talked many times about this and just want to make sure. Have we had any input at all with regards from... We're getting better complaints. And so it's working more seamlessly. Second, I was with another councilman from like before we started 25, 30 years ago. And he had said that one of the things they loved about doing this on the beach is that they would offer a night for parents to bring their kids to sleep on the beach. And I just thought that would be It's something really special because there's not too many places in Miami where you can sleep on the beach. And with the different fire things that we had to keep it warm, I just thought that would be something really nice that we could try to do when it gets a little warmer. And I would think a lot of parents would really enjoy going out there with sleeping bags and. Bringing the kids out for night. So I just thought that's something and just thinking of other ways to improve the beach and finally, I See we keep talking about it, but this scooters thing and seeing people come on a1a just scares me not for not for me but for watching so many of these younger kids riding through in their inadequate lights without helmets. And I really believe we need to press this to see how we can make this safer with other cities. I know Aventura, it's a concern. And I just think we just don't wanna see someone get hurt in our community like that. So whatever we can do to push that, I just want to bring it forward again. Thank you.
When the cars are parked on the sidewalk and the kids go off into the street and they don't know what's coming.
Yes, ma'am.
And then just one note, Council Member Bernstein, we owe a lot to you for the beach. You have been waving the beach flag for years and years about the chairs, the colors, the couches, everything. So when I go out there and look at the beach truthfully, I see your face.
Thank you.
I think it's all of us funny when I see look in the sand I see But gotta also give vice mayor council Wendell because when she came on council that was her number one Is to get towels on the beach so I commend Councilman Bernstein and also vice mayor because if one for you would be another year before we got him So great job. Thank you everybody. Appreciate that very informative moving on to town managers report I
First, Mayor, members of the council, let me just say that we'll continue to build on the amenities that we offer our residents as we've done for the last 19 years. So anything that we could do to improve the facility that we have will make them better. And once we put something in, we'll make sure that we maintain it. At the last two council meetings, you've asked us to look into the traffic safety issues at the Strand. Know that we've taken possession of two signs that will be illuminated and they trigger on the tele-pedestrians to stop crossing. when cars are exiting the Strand, making a right hand sign. We took delivery of those this week. We're going to be installing them. They're decorative rectangular boxes that are each under the sidewalk. And so the pedestrians will now know when we're coming out. So they are warned to watch out for us, not vice versa. So we did take delivery of those and we will be installing them relatively quickly. We are very aware of the situations that are going on internationally. I want all of our residents to know that our police department are taking the proper corrective measures to keep you and your loved ones safe. If you do see a stronger police presence, no, we're not a target of anything, but we want to make sure that we're being proactive in our policing and our patrolling. So you'll be seeing more of our officers out and about during the high holidays that are upcoming. and especially during prayer hours. With that said, we're also going to be offering in the month of April a resident gun safety course for residents to come and understand what gun safety and being a responsible gun owner is. So the chief will have some information come out, and that will be sometime in the middle of April. The assistant chief, the public works director, and the resident services director are in the audience, so they heard your council comments. and we'll be addressing those as they need to be addressed. We're super excited about the towels. We're also super excited that we're continuing to make improvements on the fountains at the Strand. And we're looking forward to working with the Wellness Center Advisory Committee to bring forth to you, hopefully at your main meeting, of set of rules that will be governing the wellness center process. Councilman Einstein, we have been working with a consultant and with the Dempsey team to reduce the scope and the cost of furniture. Thank you for the information that you provided us at the last council meeting. Mr. Mayor, I am humbled by the award that I received this evening. I just found out that there's an award dinner In DC for that. I'm honored to serve as your city manager this month Serves my I begin my 20th year as your manager. I'm looking forward to an exciting year You know that we have a busy agenda tonight So with that said I just want to thank all of our staff for the hard work that they do day in and day out to make me Look great. I am in my position because of all the work that you do daily on our behalf And so thank you with that mayor that rest. That's my report. I
Thank you, Town Manager.
Town Attorney- Oh, Mayor, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Oops, oops, oops. Just this past month, one of our long-term employees, Ms. Robin Weiner, effectively retired from the town, and so we want to wish Robin and her family a great retirement. We will be having a retirement event for her sometime in April, but I do want to just let the residents know that Robin Weiner has retired and is no longer with the agency in her official police capacity. And congratulations to Robin for her 28 years of dedicated service to the town of Golden Beach.
Excellent. Thank you, town manager. Town attorney, Steve, you have anything?
Nothing.
Okay, moving right along. Ordinances first reading. An ordinance of the town council of the town of Golden Beach amending the town code and ordinances chapter 66 zoning to amend piling requirements.
An ordinance of the Town Council of the Town of Golden Beach, Florida, amending the Town's Code of Ordinances by revising Article 1, in general, Section 66-6, General Construction Requirements within Chapter 66, Zoning, to amend piling requirements providing for severability, providing for codification, providing for conflicts, and providing an effective date.
I need a motion to approve. I need a second. Town Attorney or Town... Matt? Steve, you want to... Alex?
I'm happy to do it. Steve? Yeah. You're on. There we go. This is really sort of a clarifying ordinance which is intended to allow the staff and administration, the manager or his designee, to determine whether or not pilings are needed in any particular situation. There are some minor structures that are built as part of a house. It might be a column. It might be a fence or something. Under our code currently, there's a provision that says that every structure must be supported by piles. which is cumbersome, expensive, unnecessary. And so what this does, it places in the building official and the manager the opportunity to determine where piles are necessary and unnecessary, and it doesn't become an absolute obligation. So that's the purpose of it, to try to make things simpler for people who are constructing without putting anybody in jeopardy and structures in jeopardy.
Mr. Mayor, also, in my briefings with each of the council members, we will be bringing you a revised version in second reading. I didn't have a chance to meet with the town attorney about it. Just to make sure that it's absolutely clear that these are for minor structures. Council feels that there may be some potential reading into it if we don't fix it. So we'll look at that by second reading.
Okay, thank you. Any council comments? None. Public comments? None. A roll call, please.
Mayor Singer?
Vice Mayor Mendel? Yes. Council Member Leskin? Yes. Council Member Bernstein?
Council Member Einstein? Yes. Motion passes.
Motion passes. Item number L, ordinances second reading. We have none. Item N, quasi-judicial resolution. We have none. Item number N, Major project update town manager. Can you give us a update on the reimagined?
Mr. Mayor, I'm gonna take the personal privilege and just go over a couple other projects as well first Let me just give the community an update and I just I need to really take a minute to just recognize the effort of our town attorney Steve Hoffman Over the last couple of months, we've been dealing with the Zone 1 issue, and we all know what the Zone 1 issue is, so I'm not going to get into details. But I've never seen someone work as hard and as aggressively for our town to make sure that people who are doing work in our community are not taking advantage of what we allow. Steve has been working. I mean, I get calls even at 11. We're both geeks in this respect, so we text each other like at 11 o'clock at night.
We're four in the morning. Yeah.
So Steve, thank you for all that you're doing for Zone 1. And Mr. Mayor, I just want to let you know that we are close to almost, there's like three or four last of the Mohicans that are holding out. I will tell you that Steve's emails are getting more aggressive and more bolder. I see that font getting a little bit bigger. But the Zone 1 issue has almost put the rest. And so I just want to recognize Steve Helfman for all of his long hours in helping us get through the Zone 1 issues. Also, for the community who's sitting here wondering what the Zone 1 issues mean, I recommend that you watch the building advisory board meeting of this past Tuesday, where I stated zoning in progress into the record on how we will govern Zone 1 moving forward from an administrative position. And there will be an administrative order issued by the mayor and I covering Zone 1 on a moving forward basis. But Steve, thank you for all of your hard work in that respect.
It's my pleasure.
Mr. Mayor, we do know that the way finding system is in and we're continuing to tweak it by adding more landscaping. We're seeing some already some warranty issues that we're going to be addressing. And so we know that we're working on that for the council members that are asking what happened with guardhouse. Guardhouse right now is on a slow crawl. We have not put it to bed yet, but we will be bringing to you guardhouse related issues. in the not too distant future. Mr. Mayor, the agreement for the annex, our new police station is close to being finalized and we'll be getting that underway. And I just want to put in the record that we retain the services of South East, what's his name? No, the guy. We're working on the dock. Kirk Lofton, Ocean Consulting, Ocean Consulting, to get us the final permits that we need for our police boat dock, and he'll be working on that more aggressively as it relates to reimagining Turtle Park and the Wellness Center. Let me just give a couple updates. Residents, if you're interested in knowing what's going to happen in our Twiddle Park tot lot, youth lot areas, Tuesday, April 14th, between the hours of 11 a.m. and 2 p.m., the shortlisted finalists are going to be presenting their design and their proposals for the tot lots. We did receive nine proposals from eight different firms. I rejected all nine. And all nine firms have been given an opportunity to come back to us with a more defined budget, scope and a wow factor, which every single one of them was missing. And so as your manager, I won't take mediocre proposals. So we rejected all nine and we're asking them to resubmit to us a more wow factor coming into budget. So that meeting, if you're interested in learning, touching, tasting, feeling what the tot lot may look like, Tuesday April 14 from 11 to 2 is the workshop for tot lot Future tot lot designs at that meeting the council will direct me to negotiate a contract with one of those Presenters that will be shortlisted for that meeting as it relates to the Wellness Center and reimagine to the park We have several agenda items that are on For discussion today. Let me tell you what it's not Finalized and not part of today's agenda. We still have landscaping park lighting, AV, and CCTV that are outstanding issues that have not been appropriated any funds and or, sorry, have not been appropriated contracts or vendors. Tonight, when we go through each item, I'll brief you on the status of each of those facilities to save time on tonight's presentation. That's our capital projects at play. Oh, and Forest Main is out to bid, and they're going to definitely get started by June, if not soon thereafter. So we're hoping to get that started. That's it for today.
Thank you, Town Manager. Moving right along. Consent agenda. The following four items on the consent agenda. Official minutes of the February 17th, 2026 regular town council meeting. A resolution of town council authorizing the sale of four Chevrolet Tahos and one international command post for the town's vehicle fleet. Item number four, resolution for the town council authorizing the purchase of vehicles and emergency equipment of the vehicles, for the vehicles. Item number five, a resolution of town council authorizing the use of law enforcement trust funds, LETF, as they become available for costs associated with the town wellness center complex, construction and equipment, costs associated with Reed Imagine, Twiddle Park. Those four items on the consent agenda. All in favor say aye.
Aye.
Anyone oppose? The four items on the consent agenda pass. Moving on to letter P, town resolution. A resolution of town council amending the town schedule of building permit fees and other fees. Town clerk.
A resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Golden Beach, Florida, amending the Town's schedule of permit fees, building permit fees, and other fees providing for implementation and providing for an effective date.
A motion to pass? Approved. Excuse me. I need a second. Okay, Town Manager.
So Mr. Mayor, periodically we review the industry and find out what the market is yielding for the cost of construction and where we fall short as an organization and need to bring in additional resources, especially during construction. So what we found earlier this month in meeting with the Bambi Day Property Appraisers Office and in talking with leading construction companies and providers here in South Florida is that for oceanfront or waterfront properties, and specifically this addresses Zone 1, the cost for construction exceeds our minimum price per square feet. And the industry and the market actually is indicating that the market is about $3,200 to $3,800 a square feet for cost of construction. So tonight, we're going to be amending our fees in Zone 1 from $1,200 for minimum cost for permitting to $2,100. And this applies to Zone 1 only. In addition to that, as part of our zoning in progress, we're recommending that you approve and adopt a new fee. This is a zoning review and compliance fee. As you know, we've been now that the community has so many projects under its development, we need to do a better job in watching what people are proposing and what they're doing during construction as a release to zoning, zoning compliance and building inspection compliance. So we're proposing that we implement a new zoning review and compliance monitoring fee on a moving forward basis for all homes who have not been permitted. If you already have your permit, you're exempt. And as part of this fee, after your first 12 months of construction, for each additional year of construction, there will be a $5,000 construction monitoring for zoning compliance and building inspection. These are not building permit fees. These are zoning related fees to cover the cost of ensuring that individuals aren't playing with our zoning, such as seawall compliance, such as seawall caps, such as the setback requirements, the D5 triangle and the like. I will tell you, This fee, we're also recommending that we change our variance fees only for variances that are not seawall and dock. So if it's a seawall or a dock, because those we know we cause those variances. So if it's not a seawall and dock variance, as it relates to outside the property line, we're recommending to go from $750 to $5,000. And so the idea is, if you want us to waive our zoning code, you're going to pay a higher fee for us to review, analyze, and decide what the impact is to the surrounding neighbors. We feel that $5,000 is a fair number. There are some in the audience that feel that that number should be higher, and of course, some that believe that we shouldn't charge it at all. But if you want to deviate from our code, we believe that for that process, you should pay $5,000. And there are other supplemental fees that we're asking to be increased, but they affect very few people as it relates to the splitting of lots and combining lots. or if you submit to us an absolutely crazy plan to review, we're asking for those to be. So we are asking, and I need the clerk to make sure that she memorializes the exemptions that I've made orally here today as part of this new fee structure. And so we ask that you favorably, if you notice, I did not address zone two and three, although zone two and three should be something that we address, if not tonight, in the very near future.
Well, town manager, very well put. I talked to two contractors over the last week who build high end homes and on the ocean. They said $2,100 is very cheap, very cheap, and probably too cheap. But the second thing that was brought up is zone two and three. Right now, the code says the fee structure set at $600 a foot. And in this environment, there is no way that you can build at $600 a foot per several contractors that are currently building. So it's more like $1,400 a month. Foot but I'm proposing that we move to six hundred dollars up to nine hundred dollars for zone two and three Meaning the minimum per square foot that will be charged in the permit fees is nine hundred dollars.
Mr Mayor what would be appropriate after discussion? Should you wish to amend the item the mayor the attorney and I can can write I'm just proposing it now So they can comment on what I'm proposing Steve is is
In addition to that, add zone two and three, move it from $600 to $900. We have not changed that fee in a long time. It's been a while. And obviously, construction costs in the last year have gone up 30%. Not going back, the last five years have gone up a tremendous amount.
Mr. Mayor, if I may just make, because there's a lot of ayes and comments. So real quick, the way that fee works, right? So we say you're building a house. You come in and you say, I'm going to build my house for $2 million. We're like, no, no, no. You have to, if your contract price is less than our minimum per square foot, you're going to be paid on that. When your contract is, when you finish construction, you're required to give us an affidavit of certifying the cost of construction. If we believe that that affidavit falls short, we apply our minimum per square feet. If we also feel that your affidavit does not support what we see in the field, we have the right to audit your financials to determine whether or not that's exactly what you paid for that house. So this fee is just a floor to make sure that people aren't being cute when they tell us that they're building an $80 million house for $20 million. So this sets the floor, not the ceiling, as to how those fees are calculated.
I'll open up. I'll start with Vice Mayor. Do you have anything to comment? This is new construction only, right? New construction.
New construction.
I'm good. You're good?
You're good? Just to be clear, there's a distinction that is important. There are permit fees that are charged and typically they're charged based upon the cost of construction. If you come in for an application for a permit fee, you'll be asked to document the cost and the fees are generally in most municipalities tied to the cost of construction. There's a separate fee which we're talking about also, which is not a building permit fee per se. It doesn't relate to the building code. It doesn't relate to reviews for plumbing, electrical, structural, and things like that. It relates to a zoning compliance review and determination. What we're finding with a lot of these newer homes and the detail that's going into them and the design that's going into them is that there's really a greater need for a more detailed analysis of the zoning components that are going into it. For example, covered area, lot area, extensions off of a building that may be called an eyebrow, may be called a planter. The architects are getting very creative with the way they design these homes, and it really needs a much more detailed analysis and review, both at the And through the construction process so there's going to be a component to the fee that's charged when you come in for a new house that is not part of the typical review fee, but is intended to Reimburse the government and pay for this more detailed zoning analysis that we find that we need and
Mayor to the to the attorney's point with this fee we'll be bringing as you know our building department operates with part-time inspectors and part-time reviewers this fee will allow us to bring in a full-time zoning and building inspector position so we'll have a full-time person here five days a week doing zoning reviews zoning compliance and building inspection in fact we've already drafted the the job description um and the requirements and the qualifications for that person and as we're seeing these more change in our community, it's important that we start paying closer attention to what's going on.
All three zones, right?
All three zones.
Yeah, that applies in all three zones. That's not unique to Zone 1, although the homes in Zone 1 happen to be more complex and larger generally. But this review fee would apply to all of them. And it's really intended to be able to pay for this additional cost that's associated with it. Some municipalities call it a cost recovery fee where you charge the applicant for the permit fee, the cost of recovering the amounts that you spend as a government to have this extra review. And so that's what this is.
Mayor, the other thing, and it's my final comment on this matter. One of the things that we want to make sure that we're being very clear on, especially with potential buyers and the like. So as part of someone's due diligence, when they're doing their due diligence or they're doing lien searches through administrative order, our fee structure will now be provided. And we will require that realtors provide this to potential buyers. We don't want any what I wasn't aware. This is new. So we're going to do a better job in explaining to people, one, the rules of living in Golden Beach, because a lot of people don't realize that we have set of residential rules that need to be followed. And then number two is the our fee structure. So that will be through administrative action provided at the time of due diligence.
Councilman Einstein, you have any comment real quickly?
The Determinant for the gross floor areas in the prices the 5,000 feet for the 7500 and 5000 to 10 to 12,005 are we copying another ordinance or how did we So so I looked at three other cities that do zoning and I'd looked at our overall fee structure and try to determine how many houses per year would need to review and what we would need the charge in order to cover the salary and benefits of an employee
That's the most important component, which is you really want to make sure that your fee structure tied to the cost that you're incurring in order to provide that service. It's a planned review service. It's an inspection service. And I think what's happening, especially as these homes get larger, the cost of providing the services, the plans review, the inspections. We're adjusting to coordinate. No question about it.
I just want to know if there was a, how we came up.
Every municipality is slightly different because of what they pay their staff. Some of them outsource this, and the people they're outsourcing it to may be charging them a larger fee than you may be charging them. So it's really unique to each unit.
I'm sure when we get a 20,000 square foot house and you put it on someone's steps to start analyzing compliance issues with zoning, it becomes a task. The other question I just had. The variance fee up to 5000. Are we is that high compared to other municipalities? Are we in? Keeping with like an Indian Creek about Harbor.
I could tell you that I think that the 5000 look. One, we don't have that many variance requests that the fee would apply to recently. So this doesn't apply to your seawall out of the property line. This is somebody who wants to come in and wants to move their pool into the side setback. Those type of requests, they think that their design needs consideration. And the way I feel about the fee, in terms of benchmarking the number, that's very difficult to do because most cities either plug it into their permit fees. No one calls it out the way that I saw in the three that I looked at call it out this way. In my opinion, it should be a lot higher. If you want to break our rules and want us to consider break, there's a cost for that, to go through that review process, all the legwork. Because to me, submit a house that meets our zoning code. But we take on additional work, and so do our reviewers, to put together variance packets and recommendations And so now that's one employee that's not able to do their normal job because someone wants to be exempt from the process. And so we do spend all the trades have to spend time reviewing that request and the impact to our staff time.
And as we talked about on the phone, I guess Mr. Klinger, who came in with a bunch of variances at one time for his house. with the steps and the different things, if you have multiple variances at the same time, they all come under the umbrella of the 5,000?
Well, I think that, yes, within reason, right? So if somebody comes in and says 20 requests, that's a little bit more, but one or two, I think that's fair. And I think that that should be up to the managers.
We're going to be fair to the residents. Okay, it's just going to be fair.
Yeah.
Councilor Bernstein, you have anything?
Yeah, I want to say that when I first looked at this, I thought, Why are we raising our rates? And it just didn't seem right to me. And then the more I talked with Alex about it, I realized that when we originally set up these rates, additionally to what Alex said, which is what it was nice to hear on the record, but the amount of new homes that we've had compared to in the previous years before COVID is incredible. And not only that, but we're creating more and more elaborate homes. home with the review, when you just look outside and you see this four story structure, they're much more they're much more elaborate than we ever had in the past. And I think that hopefully this extra money to hire the people that Alex said is is not only going to help get a better view, a better review process for us, but also is going to expedite this for anyone developing their property. So if you're spending that much on a lot and sitting on it for much longer because we're not processing it quicker, I think one of the benefits for everybody to realize that this will help us expedite construction and get houses up quicker and make everyone happier. So I was supportive of it at the end.
I want to clarify something you said. We're not charging this fee because these homes are nicer and bigger. We're charging this fee because these are true construction costs.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the review process of these properties is much more elaborate than it used to be. When you used to have a 5,000 square foot home as opposed to a 14,000 square foot home, I'm saying that these require a much more intensive review is all.
Right. But construction costs have gone up extraordinarily. That's the minimum.
That's what we're trying to justify. But I'm looking at when Alex was talking about hiring other people, and I just think that by doing that, that we're helping expedite this process and it's putting it back into the system. That's all.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, counsel. Any public comments? Nope, close it to public. Roll call, please.
No, Mr. Mayor, no. Oh, wait, excuse me. No, no, no, no. So, Mr. Mayor, I believe what you want to do is you're going to make a motion to amend the item.
Yeah, I got you. I'm going to make a motion to amend this to add Zone 2 and 3 to change it from $600 to $900 per square foot.
Mr. Mayor, may I make a friendly amendment to your amendment?
What's that?
May I make a friendly amendment to your amendment? Say, amendment? Yeah, can I add an... You wanna make amendment to my amendment?
I'm gonna make an... Offer a motion to make a motion to add to my... But I'll let you do it.
To clarify your amendment.
So I like that you're doing that, but I just wanna just, as part of that amendment is that we incorporate all of the oral commitments that we made on the record so the clerk could make clean up the item. Okay. So everything that I represented orally will be incorporated into your amendment and we'll draft it.
Okay, all in favor of my amendment? Aye. Aye. Anyone oppose? Okay, so amendment is added to the resolution number eight. Town Clerk, roll call, please.
Mayor Singer?
Vice Mayor Mendel? Yes. Council Member Luskin? Yes. Council Member Bernstein?
Council Member Einstein?
Motion passes as amended.
And that's resolution six, not eight. I apologize. Perfect. Thank you. Motion passes. Item number seven, resolution of town council, approving a change order. I apologize for my voice. A change order or a new agreement on the John Bell Construction Inc. for the civil work services relating to the Wellness Center and the reimagined Tweedle Park projects.
A resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Golden Beach, Florida, approving a change order or a new agreement with John Bell Construction Inc. for civil site work services related to the Wellness Center and reimagined Tweedle Park projects, providing for conditions, providing for implementation, and an effective date.
Need a motion?
Motion to approve.
I need a second. Okay. Town manager, item number seven.
Mr. Mayor, I just want to, for the record, just state that Oscar Mordejon from John Bell Construction and Jay Castellanos from John Bell Construction are on Zoom and can answer questions that you may have. So I just want to remind the council and for the audience to understand how we got to this point this evening. So when we went out to bid for construction services of the Wellness Center Complex, we were very clear to all bidders during the pre-bid sessions that we had. And then after the bid, that civil and site work was not part of their bids. And the reason we did that is because at the time that the building was designed, we did not have a final plan for civil or site plan. And so the understanding was that we would award a contract to a contractor to build the building and then amend their contract once civil was done. Important things to keep in mind. We needed to get the state of Florida to agree to this process because there's an $850,000 grant that's tied to this amendment. So the state said, okay, your contractor, which in this case, our contractor of record is John Bell, they can go out to bid, get proposals, and then the council can award their sub and award them the work given the terms of our original contract. And then, as we always do, we did one better. We independently went out and found somebody that John Bell was not working with, to make sure that there wasn't any steering or manipulating of the market and found an independent company who actually did the civil work for this building to validate their numbers and to see where there were outliers, if there were any. And I can tell you, using our independent contractor to verify numbers, they were very much in line. And in fact, if we added in the demo portion, which our contractor left out, they would have been head to head. So we feel comfortable with the sub that they're using. For uh the civil and site work. Let me tell you what's included and what's not included in this amendment So this is for everything relating to civil and site So this is realigning golden beach drive as you know, we're moving golden beach drive, uh in front of the wellness center close to five feet Into the right-of-way to get a better angle for for parking This includes your parking bays all of your drainage on the entire site from the fence line behind the civic center to the intersection of Teresina and Golden Beach Drive, all of that, all the drainage for the site. It requires that the site be elevated to the same elevation of the tennis courts today. Demolition of all of the hardscapes throughout the entire site was not included. Landscaping, lighting, landscaping and lighting are not part of this civil contract. And after we received their bids, we then started adding things that we feel would benefit the project. We believe that the parking bays of the front side of the building, not the back side, the front side of the building should have pavers so that we're consistent with this building and other buildings. So there's an allowance for pavers. There's an electrical allowance that has nothing to do with the lighting. It's just for us to coordinate electrical things like the generator and the like. The retaining wall on the north side, if we're going to raise the site, we need to hold that earth back. So that's in there. More importantly for me, the decorative nature of our concrete work underneath the building, it has a stamped concrete pattern. And we want to make sure that the sidewalks of this building, the Civic Center complex, mirrored and complement the sidewalks in the park. So there's a smooth edge sidewalk with a brushed middle. So there's allowances for that. As part of this civil work, they will also take out half of our pickleball court and make the repairs necessary to the well. As you know, the well collapsed and so we have issue on the pickleball court. And then of course, their markup for 15% for overhead and profit and then general conditions. The reason is a change order or a new agreement. We're trying to stay away from bonding requirements that may drive the price up. So if we can get an independent contract and not make this as a change order to their existing contract, that helps us with not having this project be bonded. I don't believe that we need to bond this work. The company has proven to be reputable, and they've done a phenomenal job to date. So we're going to be working with the attorney to either issue a separate independent contract. The reason we haven't committed to that just yet, I need to make sure that the state of Florida is OK with that, because we do have a grant agreement that governs this work. So this is the first change order or new proposals for civil and site work. I have spoken to each of you independently on how we're going to be funding this additional work. No, this is not a surprise change order. From the very beginning, we knew that this is how we were going to govern the site. I'll stand ready for questions, Mr. Mayor.
Perfect. Thank you, Town Manager. Great explanation. Town Council, any comments?
Could you explain a little bit more where the stamped concrete is going to be in comparison to pavers?
There's going to be four types of finishes on the property. The first finish, of course, is the asphalt in the road and in the parking base behind and in the alleyway. Then in the front parking areas, there'll be pavers similar to those that are underneath this building. We're not picking colors. We already have a color. This building match out there. And then the sidewalk. So the sidewalk outside of the building throughout your recreational facilities will have the same pattern as what you see out here in your courtyard. And then underneath the building, there's an. Excuse me. There's an outdoor patio area that has a stamped pattern to make it feel like a seashell. And those are the finishes that you have.
Stamped concrete or stamped concrete pattern? Is there a difference?
So you pour the concrete, you get a stamp, and you stamp it, and that creates the pattern in it.
One thing you did neglect to mention is that of this amount, we received $850,000 grant from the state of Florida to pay for a part of this site work. So that was a big help. All right. Any other comments? Councilman Einstein.
So if I'm looking at the what page is this page? I don't know why it says page two of two. They all say page two of two of the memo. But the one with the numbers where it says 1,800,000, Alex? Yeah, I got it.
It's page two of two.
Yeah, but take a look. They're all page two of two. If you go back one.
Oh, but it's in the town provided part.
It doesn't matter.
The chart, this chart here.
That's it. Sorry about that. The general conditions, the $238,396, is there backup for that somewhere or if I go further on or I kind of missed what that
So typically your general conditions are things like your port-a-potty, your dumpster, your fencing, the superintendent, the project manager. Those are your standard general conditions that are in every contract. And I have that detail. I can share that with you should you choose to look at it.
Yeah, I see this here. Now I see it. Yeah, I see it. All right. It's totaled on the top, not on the bottom. Temporary fencing, temporary toilet, estimating, superintendent, project manager, project accountant, job site supervisor, floor protection, punch out.
In any construction job, you always have general conditions.
And I'll be just to clear these general conditions the race and the reimbursables were negotiated as part of your original contract and are stipulated by your original contract which governs this section of this agreement Okay, just asking the question counseling Bernstein, okay, okay any public comments Again this carve-out is not for the pickleball court.
It's just preparing for
It's not for the right now court. It's for the pickleball court.
Well, just preparing the base of the pickleball court and calcium again my only point in making that statement is So when we negotiated the contract with John Bell, you know, their general condition numbers are pretty aggressive And so we fine-tuned them and that's why we're consistent with the original contract also the 14% Well that that number we were able to get down. So don't forget there it Any work that John Bell gets has a 25% markup. And so they have foregone 10% of that to help get our numbers to where they need to go.
You good?
I'm good.
Councilman Bernstein, you're good?
Yeah, I'm good.
Everyone else good? Public comments? Close to the public. Roll call, town clerk, please. Item number seven. Yes. Vice Mayor Bendel? Yes.
Council Member Lutzen? Yes. Council.
Bernstein yes councilmember Einstein yes motion passes okay moving on to item number eight a resolution of town council approving a contract with John Bell construction Inc for the installation of recreational facilities at the reimagined Tweedle Park
A resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Golden Beach, Florida, entering into a contract with John Bell Construction Inc. for the installation of the Junior Basketball Court, Pedal Court, Pickleball Court improvements and associated fencing improvements at the reimagined Tweedle Park, providing for a waiver of competitive bidding procedures, providing for implementation, providing for authorization, and providing for an effective date.
Need a motion? Motion. Need a second? Second.
Mr. Mayor, I always cringe when the clerk reads, and I quote, providing for a waiver of competitive bidding. That always makes the hair on the back of my neck crawl a little bit because I don't want our residents to think that we don't go out and actually get bids or proposals. What that means is through our code, our code of ordinances, there's a very structured format that needs to be followed for receiving competitive bids. which is very cumbersome, and more importantly, can cost more than what the effort calls for. So in this particular case, we did work with four additional recreational court installers, such as Legacy, PA Courts, Reserve Courts, and there's and pro-paddle. So we did go out and independently got proposals for the town to hire a company to come out and do this work on our behalf. Because the bulk of this work is coordination with civil, somebody has to prep the site, compact the sand, compact the lime rock, make sure the peed rock is correct. And most of these court providers will not do that work. So they will all come in and paint and make it look pretty, but they're not in the business of doing that additional work. John Bell says they're doing this civil. We said look give us a price to do the install of our recreational facilities and that's repairing and painting and restriping our pickleball court installing a junior full-size junior court basketball, removing the wall on the south side of town so that we can install a paddle court, and more importantly, at your direction, individually speaking with me, It seems that everyone in the audience on the day excuse me Not the audience on the day is likes the pedal course that Turnberry put in at their at their facility So John Bell then reached out to the person who did the the pedal court their reserve courts And so they have hired as their sub for paddle because I know that's important for our pedal for you for I know that's important for you. So their sub is a company that we were hoping they would be working with. I will tell you a couple of changes that are important to note for the record. Originally, we were going to do the bump out on the south wall with a masonry wall. That was a $70,000 delta to us. So we're actually going to be installing a 10-foot fence, since Paddle already has their own walls and their own fencing. We believe that by putting a 10-foot chain link fence consistent with the one that we have behind this building and landscaping, we could save $60,000. So we're going to do that. This also calls for the chain link fence at the dog park and also for a six-foot chain link fence at the north side of the property. So let me just also put it into the record. Michael, this is important for you. So once we start civil, once we start civil, the entire site, including tenants, will be closed. Okay, so we will shut down the park through the end of the project relatively soon. And the reason is we cannot create a safe passageway. All of the sidewalks, all of the lighting, everything gets ripped out. And so we will be closing to all of our residents pickle, pickle, tennis, and the entire site. We will be creating a temporary Shabbat gate. Did I say that right? For back at the old location and send our residents through the alleyway during that period. So we'll make accommodations for the gate. But we will close the entire site during that construction. And I strongly recommend that you approve this change order.
Right. One other thing I do want to add is that this project will not exceed three hundred forty two thousand forty and twenty nine dollars and fifty two cents.
And Mr. Mayor, for the audience at home, we inadvertently left out the legacy proposal as part of the backup documents. We did provide it to the council on the days and we'll make sure that we upload the proper the popular PDF on the website, which the clerk says has already been done.
OK, with that, I'm going to open up to council. I'll start on your side first. Councilman Einstein, any comments?
Yeah, so real quickly, on our DS, we have this legacy construction. I think we talked about this yesterday. This was because you went out to bid with other people.
We went out to bid with four other companies, correct.
That what we're getting here is a very good price. A fair deal. And I guess you beat them up as much as you could.
They gave 10% on what our contract states they get for profit. So I thought that was, you know, since I think that's a good give on their part. They're the ones that they're actually going to be using the provider that we would have selected, which is the reserve court. So they're not coming in with a Mickey Mouse company to do the court. And their proposal came in. after adjustments better than the other three proposals. And if you look at the other three proposals, they have a lot of exclusions, which John Bell won't have because they're responsible for turnkey.
You know, when I looked at some of the things, I know they got a superintendent, they got the porta potty again, they got the portable fencing. Is there any redundancy between some of this?
That's an excellent question. And again, you know, that's a very excellent question. So the answer to that is no. So if you notice in the time schedule, so the general conditions for civil, so cover through delivery of the sub base. And then we are adding an additional I don't know the number of days, but we're adding four more months to the project timeline. And so they're not going to give us dumpsters and porta potties and fencing for free. Those are your general conditions because you cannot install You cannot install the top of a paddle court if the base and the earth isn't there. So if anyone has experience in construction, you phase this out. And so, no, there is no duplicative services there. This is through the term of the contract. And right now, the wellness center itself has a delivery of December and then the park soon thereafter.
Just one other question on that. not the paddle, the pickle courts, are we alleviating the potential problem in the future?
No, we're not.
And I want to be clear about that. We're spending a lot of money here.
And we're not. And I want to be clear about that. So as a reminder to the community and to our council, where we have cited our pickleball court, sits over an existing well area. We used to have four deep well injections and downstream defenders and scrubbing plates. And so if you know anything about the south part of town, it's all muck, right? And so as that ground starts to settle, then you're going to have your occasional cracking. What happened in this particular case, and this is not to blame legacy whatsoever. And this is not a warranty issue. When we decided that we were going to just grout the existing wells and abandon them in place, and because your budget does not have the resources to add a structural slab under that area, right now what we have is material on grade. So unless we identified the resources needed to put in equivalent to a concrete slab, structural slab on piles for that area, you're going to have occasional things that will need to be maintained. I would hope that whoever comes in the future can identify the resources, but we have too many other competing interests. But you will continue the need to do maintenance. We're seeing it now on the tennis courts. Our tennis courts are our material on grade and you're starting to see and this is not a This is not a design issue. This is a design to budget issue. Right. So you're starting to see the asphalt separate from the drainage areas. And so we go in with caulking and caulking and the like. No different than on any court that is material on grade, not structural slab on grade. You're going to have maintenance concerns that you need to address. But again, this is this is what we can do based on our budget.
I can tell you, Ben, my tennis court, every six, five years, four years, I have to come in and resurface it and redo it because of settling.
I understand that. This is not a resurface that we're doing.
No, I understand. But we have issues underneath the court. Councilman Einstein brings up a good point. we're fixing the one court is the second court.
It's both courses. So, so the, it's the, the entire, so the entire pickleball area will be cut in half and half of both courts are being weird.
Okay. I just curious if, if we just resurfaced the area,
So right now you have a collapsed well that has sunk. So you need to deal with the fact that the sub-base is gone by re-grouting or, and again, means and methods are being left to them. But you need to stabilize the substrate, stabilize the base so that we can get proper compaction rates to then re-asphalt and re-straight.
Perfect. Underneath this, we have like a well, right?
There's several wells. So not only wells, but we also have facilities abandoned in place. So we used to have So those, we could spend hours on this, but the way this works is the pumps used to fall into a water retention area that we abandoned all of that in place. From a budget perspective, it made more sense for us to abandon in place and spend, you know, 10, $20,000 here and there. In this particular case, it's $30,000, but it's not $800,000 to remove and bring in proper sub base or put in piles or put in a structural slab on grade. We abandoned all, that entire site still has tons of facilities abandoned in place that we did not remove.
So just accurate, if you wanted to put pile in, could you on top of the wells or would you, or there's- They would put the piles in between facilities that are left in place. And did we get an idea how much that would-
I just stated it in the record. We're looking at about 800,000. 800,000 just for like a slab? No, it's not just there. It's for the entire site. So if we're going to create that, if we're going to raise the pickle on piles and slab, then you would want to do it on Padel because now you're going to have the issue on Padel later on, right? So now with Padel, because we are putting a structural slab on grade, the slab itself will settle at the same rate, not independent of itself.
Okay, Vice Mayor, any comments?
Thanks for answering.
About how long will everything be closed?
A long time. No, no, don't say that.
Two years. No. So we're hoping that if the council approves this tonight, which I hope you will, we'll start doing some civil work after the stucco goes in. You'll start to see more trucks coming in to fill the site. We will have everything back up and running by April of next year, but a lot sooner than that. But by the end of the first quarter. We're adding four months to the schedule of December. So April.
There's no way we can get around it.
Wellness Center will be open before that. And don't forget, this is important for all the residents at home and the council. We haven't even begun talking about the installation of tot lots or even selecting. So that adds to the timeline. If we're not going to meet to select a tot lot manufacturer until April, that pushes delivery another. So everything has to be coordinated. Now, we may be able to open up. No, actually, we won't, because those machines require cranes to put all the stuff in.
Councilman Bernstein.
You know, listening to Ben, I appreciate that we didn't do structural slabs for all the tennis courts and the Padel courts, but thinking, I mean, the pickleball courts, but thinking about the additional cost of doing a Padel court with all the different walls that are in there and the expense of it, I'm just curious if maybe we should consider putting in some structured slab for that smaller area of Padel core.
It is. So if you read the item, so you are going to have a, so on the Padel, the way the Padel gets installed is there will be a structural slab on grade. That structural slab will adjust evenly because it's one structural piece that's on grade, on compacted grade. And then you outfit that slab. So Padel is a structural slab on grade. Pickle antennas is material on grade and there's a difference.
So there will be pilings that this attaches to?
No. So when I use the term on grade, that means that it's on compacted earth. So there are no piles to hold up that structural slab, but that slab will settle at the same rate because it's one structural integrity piece that will settle
One unit as the sub base starts to be washed out and the like it's it's it's not like a stupid question But what's the difference between what he just said and what we're doing to the Patel court?
So pickle court excellent question, and it's not a stupid question or sounds stupid So remember when I use the term material on grade versus structural slab on grade so the materials used for pickle and tennis are are a combination of asphalt, lime rock, and rock. That crumbles and settles. It's not a structural slab. It's not a concrete slab that you pour in place. You compact the earth. Boy, I'm in the wrong business. I need to get into the recreation business. So what you do is you compact the earth, and then you frame it, and you pour asphalt and other materials that crumble as they settle and they crack. Like you said just now, it happens at your house. So paddle is a concrete block, big, big concrete.
But I understand that. Why don't you do the same thing with the pickle? Yeah, why don't we do the same thing with the pickle?
Because it costs a lot more money because of the dimensions and the sizes of it. And right now you're, I don't want to get into this discussion with the council at this forum, but our budget is tight.
But the pickleball court is the same dimensions as the Padel court. No, they're not.
They're absolutely not. They're smaller.
Fidel's smaller? No, Fidel's bigger. No, no, Fidel's much smaller. Then the two.
Mayor, unless the council wishes to identify a funding source, I think this matters a new issue, in my opinion, sir.
Just help me understand it. But Councilman Bernstein brings up a good point. Yeah.
I agree with you. We need to do a slab. So right now we're going to be cutting out a small section of the pickleball court and remediating what's happening at the sub base. What I think I hear the council asking me to Find money. I don't know where. No, I don't want you to rip out two courts that have a small issue. I don't disagree with the council that the right way to do this is to put a concrete slab the size of two pickleball courts. In fact, the right way to do this is to put a concrete slab the size of our tennis courts. But there's financial implications and the overall needs of our budget that play a factor.
I agree with you. 100%. I've forgotten the pickle. We're only improving or repairing a certain area. Correct. I got that.
Wait, we're not taking out the whole pickle?
No. Taking out the middle section. Just the middle.
I've said it now three times. So we're going to be taking out the area affected by where we're seeing compromise of the substrate. So where we have the cave-in, that's the area on both courts that we're addressing. There's no need to touch the north side or the south side. There's nothing wrong with the south side.
So going back to the Padel, when I looked at the numbers, just seeing the additional cost of how much more the Padel is and how much smaller it is than the tennis courts or the pickleball, in terms of I understand you're going to do compaction Is it going to compact the site to be able to put the slab on grade? But is that going to be rock? Is that going to be like I'm just I'm just saying I think we should be using given what's happened with the pickleball courts and the tennis courts. I'm just thinking that maybe for a little bit of even putting in a few pin piles might make sense to try to shore up that site.
And again, I could spend hours on this. So if you look at the areas that we're moving the Padel Court in.
How about this? We don't need to. No, no, because it was asked on the record, so I'm going to.
I'm going to address it because it was asked. So when you look at the area where we're putting the pedal courts, OK, those are outside of where the existing pump station locations and the facilities for that area. So there are different dynamics. But that's what you pay your staff to explore all of these considerations on your behalf. Again, I want to go on the record, say this. I agree with the council. that the best design is to put a structural slab and piles. My question to the council would be, where do we find the money from? Because at the end of the day, that's where the issues are.
But is putting piles more than 25, 30 grand in there?
It depends on how many piles.
I mean, I'm just looking at the size of it and what I would think would be the... Yeah, so I rest my case on this matter, Your Honor.
I got you.
I fully understand. Is it possible, though, just to find out I mean, just ask one of our guys.
1,000%. But again, let me tell you what will happen. So that's what the council wants me to do, to delay this action item, right? Because me finding out a price doesn't solve anything. Because what we would need to do is come back to this council, ask where the funding's coming from, and delay the project getting started. Because the goal tonight is, let's get this awarded so we can get started. We can definitely table this issue. Right? I do not have the authority after you vote on something to change it or, or make modifications. So understand the mechanics of what would happen if we go ask what that price is, which I've already indicated three times on the record, what we believe the costs are. You're just furthering action on this item, which we could definitely do.
Can I make a suggestion? Absolutely. Is it possible because you, you have your, our construction guys can give an estimate of how much on square square footage
When you say our construction guy, who is that? Because I don't have a construction guy.
Bell. Bell. I'm just saying, when you asked Bell just to give a rough estimate, can't we just approve this with the idea that you and the mayor, if you deem it advisable, can go ahead and do that?
I work at the pleasure of the board and we'll do what you like, but I'm going to ask the board one last time, where would you like for me to find the money?
We don't know how much money it is.
It's $30,000, $40,000. If you remember, and now we're going to talk about things in the public. So as you remember, when we were talking in private, we had some issue as it relates to finding the resources needed to get to this budget number. And we passed some items tonight to help us get to this number. A magician only has so many tricks. And this magician is old and tired. And so we're at that number. And so unless the council can identify where that money comes from, I don't know how else to say it politely, we just don't have the resources to consider this at this time.
without without deleting the project but I think the concern there there's just that concern if we put a band-aid on you know we fix this this way and two years later you know we come up with the pickleball court with the same situation we spent I don't know how much money
But two years from now, you may have another $600,000 that you can identify. Right now, and again, so we've already gone through the budget. We've reallocated dollars that were budgeted for other projects to help get to this number. I agree with the council. The council believes that the appropriate step is that we should do this slab. This is just me. Hold on. So then the appropriate thing to do is that we delay this project until October 1 of next year because that's where new monies become available. Unless the council wants us to go into our reserves and allocate money for this project. And I don't think that's the will of the council. So I'm not disagreeing with you, but there are logistical... decisions that need to be made in terms of funding and what steps we go in. I will tell you, I'd rather waste $30,000 today and get another X number of years while we try to identify the resources. And it's not a waste, because you're going to get five, six years use out of this, unless the well collapses again, which we would hope it doesn't. But it is a Band-Aid, because we don't have the money for the surgery. Did I say that right?
Alex, I don't want to delay the construction, but I do, when I look at the amount of disproportionate costs that we're putting in for the paddle compared to everything else right now, I'm just saying that if something goes wrong with that, that's basically lost money. And so to the extent we can, I don't know if it's very expensive or not, and that's what I was saying.
What Alex is explaining to you, by putting it on a concrete slab, the longevity of the Padel court is going to be long.
Mayor and council members, I just want to... All I'm asking is that we approve it. I don't disagree, but council member... Councilor Bernstein, with all due respect, and I don't want to, I hate it when I sound combative because I'm honest to God not trying to be combative. But I want you guys to understand this. We went through this exercise. When this council authorized, and again, we're going to go out there, when this council authorized the pickleball installation and the tennis court installation with the nearest construction... We knew what that cost is. And that cost, I'll say it now for the fifth time, was $800,000. We've gone through this exercise. And because of the decision that was made, right, when we put them in with Garris Construction, we knew what that number was. And we decided that it was not appropriate at the time because the resources weren't there then. They're definitely not there now to spend the dollars to be able to do construction. a structural slab on grade for all of our facilities. So we've gone through this exercise. We did evaluate this as part of our installing the pickleball course to begin with.
Alex, I don't really want to spend time talking about it publicly. I'm just saying We don't really know what the cost is. For the piles, to put a few piles in there, we don't know what the extra cost is.
I think the question is, after we pass this.
I'm not talking about the whole site. I'm talking about for the size of the Padel court. And I'm just saying, you can ask the contractor that we've hired.
I rest. Yeah, I hear you.
And all I'm saying is, to me, if you can find that out, and you and the mayor can do that, and it makes sense, do it. That's all.
Alex? I hear you suggest if everyone is good we approve this item if everyone approves it only if everyone approves it town manager and I will make an intelligent decision on the pilings we'll get at a quote we'll get an estimate we'll make an intelligent decision if something sticks out that hey maybe we should revisit again we'll bring it back the next council meeting but as it stands now if the town manager and i agree that this is the best route to go which i believe we go ahead with it can we just even go one step further if you think if you think it makes sense to do with the pilings you just go ahead with it we can't you don't have to bring it back we don't have that authority we give an extra amount
So right now... Up to $30,000 extra.
Sure. So if you remember, we do have a pile number. So if you remember when we were going through this exercise back in November, the estimated cost per pile is anywhere between $35,000 to $4,800 per pile. A slab that big will require at least 30 piles. So we're looking at $120,000. Where do you want me to find that money?
That's kind of surprising on how much those pilings are.
That's what they are.
I'm not sure with a pin pile or given whatever else you're doing with the piles.
You can't put pin piles in muck. Sorry to interrupt. You can't put pin piles in muck. So when you do piles in a muck area, you have to go to the resistance.
So you're going to 25 feet?
35 feet.
35 feet? It depends on the width of the piling and the length of the piling.
I'm just asking. That's more mucky than over there.
It's the worst part of town.
But Alex, just all you got to do is ask them and you can make, if you're right, then you drop it right there.
Okay. As we're talking, we're talking and we're getting numbers. And so I'm telling you right now, we're looking at three to $4,000 a pile, 30 piles, $120,000. Okay.
Then that makes no sense. Okay.
That's correct.
So that's my suggestion if everyone's okay with that. So right now, any public comments? I'm going to close it to the public. Right now, we're going to vote on item number eight. Town Clerk, please.
Mayor Singer.
Vice Mayor Mendel. Yes. Council Member Leskin. Yes. Council Member Bernstein.
Council Member Einstein.
Motion passes.
And I just want to make a comment that you have my word that I will meet with the town manager, as I always do, and we will look at it. And if something sticks out, we will bring it back to the council.
He just got the numbers anyway, so he texted somebody and that's what they came up with. Alex, real quick.
Just for clarification, the paddle ball court itself is larger than a pickleball court, but the area we're fixing on the pickleball court is smaller than the Padel court. Is that correct? Padel is bigger than pickle.
So a couple of things. Not only is the court a little bit bigger, but because of all the auxiliary structures that are associated with the court, like the walls and the foundation, it is a wider and longer area, which is why we're doing the bump out. So that's number one. And number two, sorry, number two, we're only remediating the area where the court fell.
Yeah, right. So it's a small area. I don't know why, but I just thought we were fixing the whole two pickleball courts.
Okay. Moving on. Number nine. Before we get to item number nine, we have one quick in-house matter we need to take care of. Set?
Yes, sir. We need just one minute.
One minute? OK. Maybe two. We take a one minute breather after that last discussion. Don't say anything. We're ready. Okay, kind of hungry, and since it's someone's birthday, before we go on number nine, we'd like to wish our town manager, and everybody can sing along with me. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Alex. Happy birthday to you. Alex, I know I speak for all the council. We wish you a happy and healthy 40th birthday. 38, correct? I'm sorry. 48.
What is those?
46. 1978. Thank you.
Wait, let me see it.
Mayor, emergency council, thank you so much for acknowledging the date of my birth.
How old are you now?
48. On Thursday. On Thursday. Thank you.
And I hired you when you were 28.
So actually, Mayor, this is important for everyone to know. So actually, you hired me at the age of 27. 27. And then I turned 28 two weeks later. But I was actually hired at the age of 27. But I'm...
Well, we wish you a happy birthday. Thank you. No kick for Councilman Bernstein, though.
Or Einstein. I was in those meetings at 27. I was in those meetings at 27.
I didn't think so for Alex's birthday.
Let's get the presentation.
We're getting you additional hair transplant.
Thank you guys. Staffer, we could get this cut up and passed out to the audience.
Happy birthday. Let's move on to item number nine. Item number nine, a resolution of town council authorizing the town manager to initiate contract negotiation and procurement for fitness equipment and town wellness center. Town clerk?
A resolution of the town council of the town of Golden Beach, Florida, authorizing the town manager to initiate contract negotiations for the procurement of fitness equipment for the town's wellness center, providing for implementation, providing for authorization, and providing for an effective date.
Need a motion to approve? Motion to approve. Need a second? Second. Town manager, before we get to the presentations, you want to go over this?
Yeah, so let me, I want to put us in proper order, and I'm going to ask both presenters to please step out of the room at this time, and then we'll call you in when we're ready for your presentations. in order to make the process fair to the presenters. So we went out to bid, you directed us to go out to bid, and what we did is we put out a sketch of the facility, the floor plan, and we said to all of the South Florida gym equipment providers to give us their best design based on the layout that we have, maximizing the number of offerings for equipment, a variety of equipment, meeting things that we need to be worried about. And I know that you're going to say, Necessarily as a government facility. We need to make sure that we have offerings for the ADA on aging population and the like and so after after a 45-day bid period We had three respondents who responded You appointed or you invited you didn't appoint you invited Members of our community to serve as an advisory board to me as it relates to how we're going to operate and service this facility. And so what happened is the committee met last week, or sorry, two weeks ago, and they had the three presenters present. Sorry, I'm just looking for my notes. Had the three presenters present, and then they were supposed to make a recommendation to me. I felt it important that There was enough divisiveness or data consensus on two of the manufacturers that I found it not to be fair to allow both those companies make a presentation and a final pitch to you. and then based on who you feel is giving us things that are important. Minimum wait times based on the number of equipments that are being offered. Style and look that you're looking for our community. A variety of equipment that will meet the needs of our population, aging population, younger population, kids. ADA compliance because we must offer those type of amenities. And so tonight, the cake is, So tonight, we're going to allow two of the respondents. And I will tell you that it was the lowest bidder and the highest bidder. This bid does not necessarily need to go to the lowest bidder. It needs to go to who you feel would provide us with the best variety, number of equipments, style, and look And important as well is the ability to service the equipment that they provide to us in a timely fashion should something happen to that equipment. So we're going to call them in one at a time. They'll each be given a total of 15 minutes to present their case. And then you can ask as many questions as you like. Fifteen minutes total. So that's question answer presentation and then you will deliberate and then direct me to negotiate and start working with one of them Let me tell you what comes after that. Okay, so once you tell me who to work with we're gonna take their base presentation The mayor and I will then be working with each of you independently to make sure that they are offering and the water center committee under the leadership of mrs. Bata to make sure that the finals equipment that they provide us is touches all of our demographics. At that point, we'll bring to you the final list of what equipments we're going to purchase, the manufacturers and the like, and then have you award a final contract for that. So you are not picking what equipment we're going to, I want a leg press versus a leg curl. You're going to say, this is who we want you to work with based on what they're offering us tonight.
Can I ask? In reviewing it, I didn't see sort of like a layout of, It's both both proposals show the top, but it didn't show any type of like yoga room or anything that we had.
They're in there. So why don't why don't we go through the presentations?
But yeah. And I'll show you your desk.
That's fine. And the second thing is, is one of them based on purchase and the other is based on leasing.
Both of them offer a hybrid. There are certain pieces of equipment you're going to buy outright. And those were going to capital expense, and we're going to outbother them outright. But there are some equipments like bicycles and treadmills and steppers that you want to have a lease to purchase or lease option because they become outdated. And they're moving parts. Anything with a moving part, you don't necessarily want to be tied to forever. So that's kind of what we all see today.
And again, we're not picking out individual equipment. We'll do that after.
But you should ask questions like brand, make, warranty, why, entry level, not entry level, and the like.
One last question. Given the tightness of our monetary policies right now, are we better off to look at trying to lease as much of that? No. That's not an issue at all?
Excellent question. So I will tell you this. I hope you guys are not causing me to have a heart attack. I will tell you that under our budget, both these presenters' proposals have come in under what we allocated as a budget for the purchase and or lease of gym equipment. And again, the other thing is we also don't need their financing. Whatever we're gonna do, we're good on our own. But both of them came in under the allocated budget for gym equipment. And what that means is, Mayor, what that means is we'll have extra money if we wanted to add something, but not enough to add piles on the paddle court. There's a plus or minus $10,000, not a plus or minus $90,000. Okay.
Just when I look at that, we're looking over $300,000 for this equipment. Just thinking is we were able to use more if we really need.
We budgeted $400,000 for gym equipment. Right.
And there's only certain equipment you want.
Mayor, I want to be careful with this. And I know you hate it when I talk too much, but this is important. So we budgeted $400,000 for gym equipment, right? But that means mats, bands, you know, monkey bars, hanging bars. That also means, like if you've gone to Anatomy or other places, if we're going to change the flooring to have different colors, that's not in John Bell's number, right? So if we're going to make some adjustments to the flooring based on the discussion, that's what I have for the entire outfitting of the second floor. How about... $400,000.
Most of these, they had a warranty package too.
Which was several. Thousands of dollars.
Yeah, so and is our selection right now once we select this is this Done and that proposed whatever they have in there is all done with the equipment or no.
No. No. No So what what this what so what the way this will work is once This will be the this will be the basis right? So they can't say This is the basis, and this price is the basis. They can't say, oh, now you selected me, these 18 equipments. It's not 300, it's 400. No, no, no. This is the basis. Now we can say, look, nobody really uses the pinky machine, right? So take the pinky machine out. We know there's a credit for that value. What would it cost to put a thumb machine? OK, the thumb machine costs $4,000 more. And that's how that begins after that.
Let's hear the presentations. Bring on the presenters.
Mayor, I think it would be appropriate to start with the, let's start with the highest bidder, and then we'll bring the lowest bidder in after. All right. So, staff, if you can have the representative from Lifestyle Fitness come in.
Thank you.
Hello, good evening, how are you? Pretty good. Is my PowerPoint presentation ready to go? Wonderful, thank you. Good evening again, my name is Jeff Deibler. I am with Life Fitness and Hammer Strength. I'm here to show you just some 3D renderings and concepts that we built out for this fitness center. I've personally been with Life Fitness for five years. I've been in the health and wellness industry for about 15, 20 years running clubs. I ran a chain of gold gyms and then went on to the vendor side working on the equipment side. So very familiar with the fitness world. It's my world, but it's also very much a collaborative process that we work on. So what I'm showing you I want to and you can go to the first slide. Our agenda is going to go through the layout. I'll go through the proposal, what the cost is, what is included. I'll touch on our service that's included as well in our service process and then go through some of our local showcases so that if we ever need to organize a field trip to any of our local partners, we can do so. You can go to the next slide, please. And I'm sorry, the next one. All right, so stop there. So this is just the 2D rendering of the space itself. Again, I'm going to emphasize that we are a collaborative vendor. So this is by no means the end-all, be-all, but this is my best guess based on what I know about the town, the demographics, and then obviously the industry itself, where the industry is heading. I'll walk you around kind of the perimeter of the room, starting with cardio. And again, there's 3D images that follow this, so it'll help kind of bring the space to life. But we're looking at starting at the 3 o'clock position, and I'll work my way around the edge of the room. We've got recumbent bikes, rowers, upright bikes, an upper body ergometer, some power mills, which are stair climbers, ellipticals, and treadmills.
Whoa, slow down.
Yes, sorry.
You're starting where? Where the treadmills are?
I'm going to start at the 3 o'clock position on the perimeter of the room.
Do you have a laser or something you can point at? I do not.
I should have brought one. I have one for my cat. Do you want to pause? Yeah, sure.
Do you want to stand up here and point at it?
Yeah, whatever is easier for you all.
Why don't you stand up here and point at it? Yeah, yeah.
Where's the mic?
Right here?
I got it.
Use the mic Hello And I apologize for speaking quickly this is
My world, but I recognize not everybody can identify. So starting here at the top, these are our recumbent bikes. So these are your bikes with back support. Good for older clientele, those that are in rehab positions.
They have a nice walk-through.
And again, I'll show you some 3D renderings, so that'll help kind of make this pop.
Can I just say, are you showing four bikes? Yes, sir. Is that what the bid is, four bikes? No, it is not. Okay, fine.
Yes, so Mr. Diaz called me last week and asked to refine based on the feedback from the wellness committee. So I went back to the drawing board over the weekend, put together a new design and a new price structure, which I'll present here shortly.
Keep going. Let him present it, Ben.
So we've got four recumbent bikes. These are two row machines, two upright bikes. This is an upper body. So an upright bike is going to be your stand-up bike, very similar to an outdoor cycle bike.
Those are the spin bikes?
Spin bikes are going to be up top here. Those are separate. Those you can come out of the saddle. This bike itself, you're seated. And you have a nice TV console display in front of you. This is an upper body ergometer. So if you've seen any kind of pitching, I know we're talking pickleball, which is a hot button issue.
Shoulders.
Yeah, it's a pure arm bike, great for rehab. Actually, the seat itself slides all the way out, so it's ADA compliant as well. You'll notice ADA boxes scattered around the room. All of this has to be ADA compliant. So you'll see that the town would be in compliance with this layout based on the boxes. These three units here are your escalators to nowhere, your power mills. We call them power mills, your stair steppers that are actually quite popular. If you look at historically the Planet Fitnesses, the crunches of the world, buy more of these than they do ellipticals because you actually get a higher intensity workout in a shorter period of time. So if you have somebody that's on a treadmill for a long period of time, that can they're using that piece of equipment. So your exercise, your power mills, you're actually are you're turning people through a little bit quicker.
He's got a pointer for you. Oh, thank you very much.
So I can turn back there or?
You can keep going.
Okay. So we've got four ellipticals here in the middle and then rounding it out, five treadmills. Again, this is based on, you know, this showcases the equipment that we offer. It gives you a lot of training modalities. It gives the townspeople a lot of different options when it comes to it, as well as quantities to support your peak times. Questions on the cardio layout so far?
Keep going.
All right. So I'm going to move up here to the selectorized. We'll point. So here is our selectorized unit. So this is your pin select where you sit. It's a fixed motion machine. The way I designed this was not only ADA compliant, but also body type. So you've got your upper body machines here in the, I guess we'll call that the back row, and then facing the cardio are all your lower body and core machines. So again, just a blend of different machines I always like to start with chest press. Again, your front desk area is here. Your chest press is the most accessible. It's probably the most commonly used piece of equipment for people that don't know what they're doing, and they can pop on there and start moving it and get comfortable with those machines. That's intentional why I put that chest press here. Chest press, shoulder press, pec fly. Again, we can go through all of the individual movements, but you've got a full upper, lower, and core circuit represented with all of these machines. Questions on those specifically?
Just go real quickly, man.
Yes, sir. Chest press, shoulder press, pec fly, rear delt. So it's a dual machine. Row, chin dip, assist. So you can actually take this. You can do pull-ups with or without weight to assist you, as well as dips. This is a bicep tricep, so it's a dual arm machine. Over here, you've got a back extension, inner and outer thigh, abdominal, leg extension, seated leg curl, and leg press.
Is the... pull-up bar assist, does that have other components on it? Or is that just that one?
No, sir, those are those two movements. So you've got dip handles at the side, pull-up handles at the top, and then a weight stack off to the side. So you can offset. So if you can't do body weight pull-ups, you can add 60 pounds of assistance, 80 pounds of assistance, et cetera.
All right, keep going. Quick question on those things. Are those stacks or are they weights?
They are weight stacks. Nothing here is what we call plate loaded. It is all pin stack.
Now, on some life fitness machines, they have counters.
Yes, sir.
Do these have counters?
Yes, these are all integrated counters, rep counters. So you see how many reps you have? Rep counters and timers. Go on. All right, so I'm going to skip this machine here for last because it's probably the most complex, but we've got a mirrored wall here. I've got two two-tiered dumbbell racks. This can hold 20 dumbbells. Again, as we get through some of the minutia, you can get five pounds all the way up to 100 pounds on this thing, or you can go in half-pound increments, five, seven and a half. What it does is it holds 20 pairs of dumbbells. My proposal represents five to 100, but obviously that can be scaled down based on what the needs of the town are. Adjacent to that is a half rack. They are urethane. So it's actually, we jackhammer test all of our dumbbells. The urethane is actually chemically bonded to the dumbbell head itself, so it won't scuff walls. And it's just got a nice coating and feel to it.
I can tell you based on experience, every gym I work out, we're going to need two sets of those because the dumbbells are the most used.
Yeah, would agree.
We would probably need two sets of those. Yeah.
Put another set somewhere else in the gym.
So this rack alone holds five to 50. We have a three-tier rack too. My only counter to that is that chews up a little bit of mirror space.
So if you have a mirror back here and a tall weight, so you have somebody- I'm just saying maybe get two separate ones of those, but keep going. I got you. Yep, understood.
Just one other thought, though. Usually so much of those weights are like half the racks are 100 to 50 pounds on the bottom. So maybe to his point, maybe we do more like of half weights and smaller weights. We can decide that after.
I'm just making a fact. You need two of those. Yep.
And then we've got a smattering of benches here. I've got an adjustable bench. This is a utility bench. So this is a back support for shoulder presses and upper body movements. This is a curl bench to go with your curl bars. So I've got a set of preloaded curl bars here.
If I could add something on the benches, I think we need more than two benches. I agree. Agreed.
I have a second one here represented in the half rack, but I agree with you.
I get four. Great.
I agree. So this is a decline bench. Some of our benches decline as well to negative 10 degrees to check that box. So again, just kind of wanted to showcase what can be done. This here is a half rack. I'll have a 3D image of this as well. But your half rack allows for an open Olympic bar to do squats, deadlifts, shoulder press in not a fixed bar path movement. Your Smith machine is represented there. a different unit itself, but this allows you to do a lot of just open bar movements because I don't have a standalone chest press or squat rack here. This is a three-in-one, four-in-one, five-in-one type machine. And then adjacent to that is your Smith machine. I had to wiggle a little bit around this column here, but you would be able to fit a bench under there. So the Smith machine has two guide rails with a bar catch on it. So it's just a safer, especially in an unmonitored fitness center, for those that aren't comfortable doing bar movements, your Smith machine is almost a requirement. I wouldn't negotiate to not have one of those in this fitness center. And then around the column is just a back extension or a reverse hyperbench. Questions so far? So this is our eight-stack cable machine. Each of these machines has a customization around each. You can fit eight different exercisers around this machine. What I have represented here are two low rows. I've got a dual row and a single row, so you can actually do independent movements when you're doing the row with one of these. Same with the lat pull downs on the other side. So you've got just a single cable or dual cable. In between are your adjustable cable crossovers. Again, you can use both cables at once or you have people independent on either side. And then I've got a tricep push down and another adjustable cable here. So just a ton of cable work. If you want to talk industry trends, everybody's going to cables and this. It's just something that is becoming more modern.
So let me ask you, between stations or at stations, you know, the big thing now is the cleaning when people are done with their machine. Do you offer, is that part of this?
Oh, in terms of like the wipes? That would be a separate vendor. We don't service.
You don't have a matching life fitness coordinated thing? No, sir.
No, we have preventative maintenance, which is included in their proposal, which allows a technician to come down and clean all the things. But in terms of like cleaning attachments after use, that's not part of our scope.
That machine, the nine station machine, what we call it, you can configure that multiple ways, right? I mean, on your
Yeah, so based again on the feedback from probably the wellness committee the council here at the town We can configure this to suit a number of different training modalities. I think we have 15 different stations you can put a heavy bag on there, which is controversial, but you could put a heavy bag you could put a power pivot Keep going. And then just to round out, I've got an area for stretching up top here. Your group fitness room, I put in a few spin bikes that we offer. And then these racks are for your group fitness barbells and light dumbbells. So your dumbbells are duplicated.
You're in the industry?
Yes, sir.
My feeling towards spin bike, a lot of the new gyms don't even have spin bikes anymore because they've really come out of favor. For example, Equinox has spin bikes, and they're going to change that room, I heard, because no one uses it.
Anatomy doesn't even have spin bikes. So what's your opinion on this?
Put them on the floor. Put one or two out here and call it good.
And we could trade that in and get other equipment. Yes, sir. We should ask around, though, because Anatomy's demographic is probably a lot younger than
The average president is not, and they're getting rid of the spin room.
So they don't get any use. Like I think at Turnberry they still use them.
No, they don't get it.
A lot of my country clubs have gotten rid of spinning or scaled it way down. It's crazy.
And all the gyms that were involved, they are illuminating the street. I agree with you. Maybe put one or two spin bikes out on the floor and use that other room for like stretching. Pilates. Some classes, Pilates and other stuff. I think it's a waste of space.
Yep. Yeah, that would be my recommendation. You can go to the next slide. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, that's fine. This is a dollhouse view, but go ahead.
So the area that's at 9 to 10 o'clock,
Here.
Yeah. What is that area?
So that's just for open space functional stretch. So this is an accessory rack for kettlebells, medicine balls, exercise balls.
The whole area would be padded? Is that how you see that?
Well, we have mats. Yes. I wouldn't say necessarily putting down a standard rubber gym floor would be adequate.
Is Pilates reformers, is that not part of your...
We're a partner with the Pilates, but we don't make Pilates equipment. We partner with Marathew Pilates.
You don't want a reformer because you need an instructor. Yeah, and they're... You do Pilates mats. Yeah, if you hire somebody. You get a Pilates instructor and do it on the mats. Reformers are, A, very expensive, and, B, you need a certified instructor. Someone will get hurt using a reformer that's not trained on how to use a reformer.
They're medieval torture devices. But yeah, they need constant supervision. So these are just some of the 3D renderings that we put together. This is a sample out of our color palette. We have dozens of frame and upholstery options to suit the aesthetic of the space. But this hopefully helps kind of paint the flow. I intentionally left space for you to add equipment. I would strongly recommend you leave that open space to add in the future because, again, we're just taking a really good guess based on what we know about the townspeople. leave open room in case, oh, shoot, we just did the city of West Miami. They've placed three additional orders with me because they went conservative to begin with and then added based on the feedback of the residents. The treadmills are all outfitted with our premium consoles. I'll go through that here shortly. They've got an eight-inch step-up height, which is best in the industry. It allows for, especially if you're with older people or mobility issues, to step up on the treadmill without having to, you know, make that additional two inches of step-up height. You can continue.
Go back a slide. Did Jim say, I agree you need those, but do you need four of those?
No, that's something you can scale back on.
Four-fit. I'd rather get other equipment.
Four-fit, but you're right.
We need what you said, more benches and other stuff and mats.
And then this is that two-tier rack that I was talking about. There's two of them next to each other, so this is where you would have space for 20 dumbbells. You can see it's got some height to it. And then this is the half rack. Again, this can be adjusted up or down a number of different ways, but it just allows for a lot of... You showed that before.
Go back to the dumbbell one. So you're showing 50s is your biggest number there.
That's just the rendering.
The proposal has 100. Something to think about with the hundreds and liability with those also.
The younger people, no liability. Same thing in a gym. I curl 120. The younger people want heavier weight. I curl 120.
Yeah, bullshit.
I will also say this, and this has stuck with me. We outfitted a 55-plus community, and they intentionally wanted... I know, but they intentionally...
The average age in this community of county kids is probably in the high 30s.
Okay, so that's even better.
We need hundreds going.
What's that? I think we need hundreds.
We currently have hundreds. So in our gym today, we have hundreds.
And it's optics too, right? It's the fact that they're there.
It's not a gym for older folks.
Okay, so half rack Smith machine. You can see our lovely column that we've had to navigate around. But again, this kind of helps paint the picture of the free weight area. You can continue on. There's just a few more.
The Smith machines, are they assist or non-assist?
Not assist, but they have safety catches. They have eight teeth on either side. So you roll the bar back, you don't have that assistance. But if you're in the bottom of a squat and you can't push back up, you just roll that bar forward and it catches on the teeth.
How many plates are we getting? Go back to the flat bench.
So the way I quoted it, I quote six 45s, four 25s, four 10s, four 5s, and two 2.5s per rack. So you can deadlift 500 pounds on this if you wanted to? No, sir. So if you need assistance with a leg movement, you have to go to the selectorized.
One other thing I would add is kettlebells. Everyone uses kettlebells. Yes. You don't have kettlebells.
We have them on the accessory rack, and then they're in the proposal. Five to 50.
That's perfect. Time. How about bench press assist? Is that...
So that's on the Smith machine.
So when you say assistance, we have a... Yeah, no, that's on the Smith machine he's talking about. Yeah, but is it a cable?
It's not clips. So, yes, there is a cable on either side, but it doesn't... It actually has a starting resistance of, I think, 38 pounds on the Smith machine. So when you go to do a bench press on a Smith machine, you actually have a starting resistance of 38 pounds. It's not assisted.
You don't want... At Turnberry, is that what they?
Yes, they have a Smith machine.
It's this style? Yeah. Okay. Yep.
And then this is just another view of our selectorized, and then this is the sample of our eight-stack machines where you can fit multiple.
Just out of curiosity. Mr. Mayor. You have an A, B, and C, like insignia and things like that. Yes, sir. What are we looking at here?
You're looking at insignia, which is A. That's top, top.
We're at the top line. The colors that you're throwing here, these are just for...
Just to make the space pop. We can do all black. Yeah, all black is really in right now. And on the resale, it helps you too. Because our equipment holds the highest value on the resale market. And people don't want funky colors.
They want black, black.
Mr. Mayor? It's important for us to just get on the record because, one, we are at the 15-minute mark, but I also just want to make sure, because you stipulated to the council, which we have not seen, that based on the conversation that we had, you made some adjustments to your numbers and to your equipment count. Yes, sir. Can you please put into the record your equipment count and your adjusted number?
That is coming up on the next slide. Can we adjust to that? Yep. So if you wouldn't mind skipping to the next couple of slides here, we'll go through the proposal. When I move to...
Yes, fine. That's not an issue. I just want to make sure that we understand.
And extend for the other person just the same amount of time?
Just give him five minutes more, Ben.
Yeah, I'll blitz through this. So you want me here still? Am I okay here? Okay. So that is your all-in number represented at the top there, $289,910.11. That includes all equipment, all accessories, freight, installation. So that is your all-in number. It excludes tax. I'm assuming the city is tax-exempt. So that is your all-in number for all that equipment furnished that you saw on that layout.
You showed the spin bikes in there, and then we talked about, is that number under Go Print Bikes?
Yes, it does.
So we could take out spin bikes and add other equipment. But we could do that later today, yeah. Just trying to see.
So the consoles themselves, 24 inches on the treadmills, 16 inches on everything else. It is our Integrity Series Cardio, which is not the highest, but it's one close to the highest, but you're getting the highest console experience, which to me personally is the most important thing. So our consoles allow for wireless device charging. We just are launching today, actually, the ability to cast personal devices. So if you have YouTube TV or you have an individual YouTube thing that you want to watch, you can actually cast your phone to that console screen. But then we also have native apps that the town does not have to pay for. There's no subscriptions. So Netflix, YouTube, ESPN, Disney, the individual user logs into their account, and then they can watch and stream content that way. We have virtual terrains. We have on-demand content. So all of those console experiences are premium, top, top. Warranty, I've extended the four years parts and labor on all cardio. Our manufacturer warranty is three years. I extended that to four, included in that number. Also added biannual maintenance for four years on cardio, three years on strength, four years to get you to cover most of the warranty, especially on the cardio. And then on the strength, your cosmetic things aren't covered under warranty, but a lot of the nuts and cables, et cetera, would be covered in that three-year period. And then also, we would bring somebody in from our Life Fitness Academy, complimentary to train your staff, train your engineers, train all your frontline people and your back of the house people on how to operate this equipment, maintain this equipment, and even program this equipment if they want any kind of personal training. If there are personal trainers in attendance, they would earn continuing education. Next slide, please.
Quick question. Yes. On the monitors, are we intending to hook, like, Hotwire to that or any of that?
They're all Internet. It's going to be Internet in there. They're all Internet-driven.
Correct. Yes, and the consoles are configured.
Hotwire in there, so it's all Internet-driven. So if you've got Netflix you want to watch, you can...
For the record, we will have an internet service provider in the building. We're not committing to any provider at this point.
We're agnostic. We would work with that, whether it's direct to ethernet or coax cable. Talk real quick about service. We have one dedicated life fitness technician in South Florida and then a network of independent service organizations. So that's a list of our network. When something goes wrong, we start with a serial number, and then we dispatch a tech within 24 to 48 hours. Next slide, please. And then I know you've mentioned a couple of properties that we're in, but I wanted to highlight just a few. So this is where we live. This is our space. These are our trusted partners. So just a list. And you can refer to this, you know, but I put in a mix of country, like our high-end country clubs, some high-end hotels, as well as local municipalities that we service as well. And then this was the city of West Miami, just to give you an example of what our equipment looks like in space.
Thank you.
What's your first name again?
My name is Jeff.
Jeff. Jeff. Perfect. Thank you, Jeff. Anyone have any other questions for Jeff?
Just while we're all here, Turnberry has colored plates, red, white, green.
Yeah, West Miami did too.
Any pros, cons?
Is your space bright? Because if not, I like black rubber. It's my personal preference with white lighting. But if you have a bright space and a vibrant space, color, there's no cost difference.
But he also said black is better for resale in the future.
Black is the best.
For resale?
Yeah, for resale.
Just have it.
No, I'm just saying, in Turberry, it just happens.
Yeah, they're all.
Any questions? Yeah.
Two four hour sessions enough for training? Oh, yes.
Adequate, for sure. Because we're not going to go through each individual piece of equipment. We're not going to strip it down and show you how to maintain it. That's not part of that scope. This is really programming. And this will be, you'll have multiple sessions prior to us getting on site to hammer down exactly what those four hour sessions will be so that you can staff appropriately. It's not just showing up and here's kind of what you can do. It's intentional and more than adequate based on the experience that I've had.
It all gets delivered at once, right?
Yeah. For a space this size, you're looking at a three to four day install. For that equipment, 13 to 15 weeks. Wow. We're all American made. Indiana steel.
I've been at Turnberry. I've been in Vail. I've been in Aspen. And I've gone to people and asked them how to work a machine. None of the people ever know how to work a machine. I don't care what kind of training program. I said, can you give me the book? I'll read it in order to find out how to calibrate it and get the type of numbers I want to get out of it. Very few people know how to use these machines. They can have all the buzzers and bells on them. Equinox, nobody knew. And Equinox is a pretty big operation.
To your point, we've added QR codes that you can see. It takes you to YouTube videos on how to properly set up each machine. Yeah, the QR codes are great.
You just put your phone there and it shows you a video on how to do it. Oh, that's great.
Oh, that's great. That's already on our equipment.
Great.
Thank you, Jeff. We appreciate it. You're welcome, sir. Thank you very much for your time. Great presentation. Yeah, thank you.
Thank you. Mr. Mayor, while Jeff... EXIT THE ROOM AND WE GET THE SECOND PROVIDER TO COME IN. I WAS SHARING WITH COUNCILMAN Oscar confirmed that the structural slab would have been $85,000 for the structural slab, and the piles are the number that we stated earlier. And then I also just want to recognize that we have the, I'm not sure if you know this, but we have a new union president. Pete Villa is no longer the union president of the FOP Lodge. And so we have K-9 officer Dylan Vicioso, who's in the audience, who's the new president of
Welcome. Sorry we didn't recognize you sooner.
Thank you, Mayor. Alex, did you just say it was $85,000?
For just the structural slab. This is when everyone's at home watching anyway.
Come on up. You asked for a rough number. Now we're getting too deep. Mayor, our second presenter is, again, is the lowest bidder on their original submittal. And so lowest bidder is a company called Live. And we have the presenter.
Thank you. Anybody need to stand up and stretch? It's been a long night. I said this before. I think when you guys put out the RFP, it was... awesome because it left room for collaboration. And that's kind of what's going to make this facility like the best is bringing in a lot of different opinions and that of experts as well. And also when I read Wellness Center, that means that it was, you know, about exercise as medicine and bringing in more than the 20 or 25% of the people in the community who are going to come to the gym no matter what it looks like. So I like the bell curve. So who are we getting on this side who is maybe new to exercise or getting over an injury and they want to rehab and other people who are going to want, you know, they're seasoned exercisers and they want equipment that's going to cater to them. So when I think wellness center, that's kind of where I go to. Um, and when we design wellness centers or fitness centers too, it's, uh, it is about the equipment. It's also about the people. And, um, I'm also interested in like, what's going to keep them there. So did they change mentally, physically? Did they make friends? Did they connect? Did they meet their fitness goals? Those kind of things. So with those things in mind, that's how we design a space. We are a dealer, meaning we represent almost every manufacturer in the industry. We have our Canadian side of our company is actually the distributor for Life Fitness. We have access to, again, most manufacturers. And so what we do is we take the best of the equipment that we want to put in a space and cater it to the demographics and the budget and make it look really cohesive so that it makes sense and it's logical. I work for the manufacturer. I like being on the dealer side because we have access to so many different things that are unique above and beyond a typical one website. So what's your first name? My name is Kelly. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. And I share a birthday week with Alex. Kelly. Yeah. So Kelly.
Yeah, so that's just a little overview. Thank you. Oh, it's your birthday too?
Yeah, four hours. I already had some. It was awesome. It was yummy. Yeah, we'll flip through. We are the largest dealer in North America, so not just the United States, North America. We have a number of different fitness entities that we collaborate with, so this is always a group effort. So again, as I mentioned, we want people to get healthy, post-rehab, socialize, make friends, recover, rejuvenate. I think that was the mission in mind when you guys were initially trying to get this project underway. So we are certainly, we're often mindful of ADA access, flow, how do people, what do they see when they walk into a space? Is it intimidating? Is it seem user-friendly? And we create zones. So you've got your cardio zones, you got your strength zones, you got your free weight zones. And then in this case, we have recovery, we have flex spaces. This has been a work in progress. So as we had conversations with the committee, this has kind of evolved. We've added more cardio. We've put in a few more strength pieces. And yeah, we can keep going. The two-dimensional view gives you that bird's eye view. And then I put in a couple of slides there that shows you. And that's what our team does. So they color code everything. This is things that we work with architect on where the outlets, everything from flooring and design and layout and it's gets really technical and thankfully we have a team. But when you walk in and the person who's sitting at that welcome desk We put things that, you know, maybe the people who are gonna be a little bit, need a little more attention, they're right there in the front. You got a good view of the cardio. The equipment is low profile, meaning you can look across the space and enjoy the whole fitness center and then even look outside. This is not pre-core. So there's some Nautilus in there, there's Hoist, there's Star Trek.
Because on the previous slide, it was listing all pre-core.
Yes, yes. That was what the design team had put in was the pre-core stuff. So that was just for scale. So you are very attentive to detail. Thank you for that.
Go on.
Yeah, so again, just looking across the areas, you can see the space and the openness, which allows for flow. Mirrors, designated specific areas that the floor might be different. So in that showing like an ultra tile, like a one inch tile that will keep the impact of the dumbbells from kind of vibrating and hearing people hearing it down below. We can talk about that. And then the flex space, the yoga area, this is a very cool idea because trending is people taking in their smartphones. So they're going to do a workout from somebody on a virtual app, or maybe they have a trainer that they're doing FaceTime with. Then you've got room for group exercise. We've got areas on the side where you can store everything. The personal trainers will have access to kettlebells and medicine balls and plyo boxes and all that. So it's a great space where people can do basically whatever they want in there. Well, not whatever they want, but yeah. So here you got a trainer working with somebody on balance over near the ballet bars. You got some people who can be doing yoga. Someone's doing plyo boxes. So just kind of creating, you know, what's that space gonna look like and how will it perform? And then I love the fact that you have a dedicated recovery space. That's also trending. We've got elevated mat tables in there. We've got a Pilates reformer that actually is virtual, true stretch cage, foam rollers. So people can go in there and work their core. They can stretch. And it's private so that I'm not doing a hamstring stretch with somebody swinging kettlebells near me. So it's a nice room. So there you go. And the elevated mat tables, those are 18 inches off the floor. So that allows for people who maybe they can get down on the floor, but they can't get up from the floor. So they have a space where they can work core, they can stretch. A trainer could stretch them.
The true stretch cage.
And then it's got pictures on it. So if you're not sure what to do with this contraption, you can like look at a picture and then model it. So we talked about that, kind of been talking about that along the way. With cardio, these are some of the more popular and frequently requested pieces of cardio. So step mills, virtual instructor-led cardio, HIIT cardio, meaning high-intensity interval training, so something I can do. In 10 minutes and get my heart rate up, get me breathing. I'm sweating. And I checked off that box of getting my cardio in. And what we're seeing now in the research is 10 minutes of high intensity cardio is just as good as 60 minutes of walking on a treadmill. So. No excuses if you don't have much time today to get in there. And then I mentioned some of the post-rehab cardio. So we can do a rower that is 20 inches off the ground instead of the typical like 12. We've talked about the elevated mat tables. A new step, so a recumbent elliptical that you would see in like a cardiac rehab or a physical therapy facility. So we wanna keep people moving and keep them continuing on with their recovery. Cable machines, I could go on and on about functional training and progressions and all that kind of stuff. And then machines that are intuitive, they're safe, they're effective. And I think we've accomplished that easily. So here's what we're talking about, the step mills, the virtual bikes. Everybody knows the name Peloton.
So just as you go through the machines, how many steppers did you recommend?
Two? And how many recumbent bikes?
Three.
All right, keep going.
So those are some of the hit products we were talking about. What's that? No, the hit products that we were talking about with the curved treadmill.
Going back to the bikes, so you wouldn't do any of the other like stand-up bikes?
Yeah, the ellipticals, yep, and recumbent bikes, upright bikes, yep, a full variety of...
So how many of these treadmills do you have, these short ones?
One, and then the...
Nine regular treadmills.
How many?
Nine.
Nine?
Mm-hmm.
Nine of those?
No, regular treadmills. Oh, regular treadmills. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought you meant to recover.
One of these small ones and nine of the other. Yes. That's right. Yes. And the cool thing about this one, too, is you can crank up the resistance and use it as like a sled push. So if any of you played football and you're out there sweating and you're pushing these big sleds, it's the same kind of like driving, using your legs kind of workout, so. You'll see all ages kind of love that. And that's a new step we were talking about.
Go back one sec. How many of those bikes you have?
This one, one.
Okay, go on. What do you call that?
That's a new step or recumbent stepper. New step is the brand name. It's like Kleenex or Tissue or Stairmaster. So we put a small circuit in there of these cable training machines and the seat drops down. So if somebody's in a wheelchair, they can actually back up into it. But the other cool thing is I mentioned progression. So week one, I'm sitting. Week two, maybe I'm sitting, but I'm like scooting off the chair a little bit. You know, next month I got the chair out of the way and I'm standing. So not only I'm just working my chest, I'm working my whole body because I'm standing, working my core. So I love cable training because the user defines the motion versus the machine. Functional training, this is what we talked about in the flex space. So it's got storage for kettlebells, medicine balls, TRX straps. Again, this is a nice area for trainers to work with their clients. And the equipment is to be determined still. We have access to so many brands, but we led with Star Trek. You'll see this in most fitness centers. It's got a 24-inch console with the virtual. You can get streaming. We can do TV if you want. Screen mirroring, which is kind of cool because I can take what's on my smartphone and mirror it onto the console.
How big is that screen?
24. Yes. Yeah. We normally do like treadmills. We'll do 24 inch and then all the rest of the cardio we'll do 16. Cause then otherwise it just looks weird. Um, I love the pre-core elliptical. How many do you have of those? The elliptical three.
Three.
It's got an adjustable ramp unique. So there's your human sport by Nautilus. So again, these are just kind of the highlights. Hoist is the brand we led with. You can go try it out at the Four Seasons in Fort Lauderdale if you want. All they do is strength, and I... I always lead with hoist because they've got a number of different options and we can do black, we can do silver, we can do white. And that's kind of what gives the space a cohesive look. So even though we're pulling from different brands, it still looks like everything matches and marries because of the color selection and how we position the equipment. This would be your seated row. So you're sitting on that chair. There's minimal adjustments. I just sit on there. I grab the handles and I pull. Yeah, you can keep going.
How many bench presses do you have?
Two. So the one is a flat bench and the other one is actually adjustable. So it can go flat, incline or decline. So just having one bench that's decline or one bench that's incline. And then just examples of the recovery space. We can consult on the flooring. I know sometimes it's a good place to cut corners from a GST standpoint. So we try to make sure that we're educating them on the flooring type and the warranty is good for fitness use. We represent E-Corps, so we also can... Yeah, they've got skews and skews and skews of flooring products. But I think the next one is the ultra tile. Yeah, so under the freeway area or in the area where the half racks are, you can do platforms where the half racks are, but we like to do the ultra tile. One, it saves you money. Two, there's no tripping hazards. And three, it serves the purpose.
If one of the ultra tiles is...
Yes, and it has a 10-year warranty.
Yes. Yes. We can customize upholstery color. We can put the logo on the dumbbells. We have access to some really cool companies that are doing some unique things. kettlebells and wood and chrome. And those kettlebells aren't real leather. They're like a PVC leather. So that's from a company called Scalecore. Yeah, and then once we get everything dialed in, we'll give you a real nice design so you can share that with the community and everybody can get excited about it. I think leasing was on the table. You can do a fair market value lease where at the end of the term, we pick it up, we give you a fair market trade-in value, and then we start all over. Or we can do a $1 buyout where at the end of the term, you give us a dollar, you get to keep the equipment. Typically, we do more of a hybrid. So the strength, maybe you purchase it or you do the fair market value. With a cardio, maybe you trade it out every five years. And so what we've done in the proposal is actually add in an extended warranty for the cardio. So you got five years parts and labor, no extra expenses. And at the end of five years, you just start over with new cardio that's got whatever new features are going to be coming out with 2031.
Understanding that five years, anything that breaks down here, you bring somebody out to
In the cardio, yes, yes. We do the warranties anyway. So the manufacturers have their own warranties. So for the cardio, most of them had a three-year parts and labor warranty. And we have a team that does that. I think we're the largest service provider in the United States. So we've got techs everywhere.
Cables are easy. They can be out in a day or two, usually 24 to 48 hours, and they have cables on their trucks, or we can order them. And we have access to four different leasing companies, so we can put it out to see who gives you the best opportunities, too. So if you want to see some references, there's some projects in there we can go through. This is the quarry. It's in Naples. It's a two-story fitness and wellness center. We did that like three years ago, and I'm not sure why it keeps... That's like a double. That's weird. And here's just an example of what we did with flooring. So the cardio has like a rolled vinyl, and then they have a rubber where the strength machines are. Community School in Naples is 7,000 square foot fitness and performance center. Nice turf run. We put the lights up there. We can change the colors if we want. Maybe today it was green. Down the street, we did La Perla. That's a Star Trek and that's Hoist. So that's like a tier down from what we're proposing, but that worked for their budget. La Clara, that's Life Fitness up in West Palm Beach. And then just some cool things we did with flooring. So you can see on the left picture how we did the ultra tile and the free weight area. And then we did different inlays with colors to match the aesthetics. Municipalities we worked with, first responders. I actually met my husband who's a paramedic at the fire station. So like working with first responders. And then we'll do the training and the orientation. We'll definitely train the staff. We'll talk to the maintenance crew. I love being around for the open houses. We can do equipment tours. That's one of the best parts of the job is kind of like seeing everything kind of come into play. In fact, I stopped by the quarry today on my way over here just to see how everything was going. and then preventive maintenance. So we can work that into the contract of a lease. We can bill you every month for visits. It's our team. They're trained by the manufacturer. It's only a manufacturer's parts. No Tommy's trunk slammers. So with the project this size, 12 to 14 weeks, we'll get it done. And that's us, if you're interested. And then if you want to get a hold of me, the next slide's got my cell phone, my email. I'm probably one of the few people who actually started on this side of the programming and operations side of the business. So I've bought equipment. I've designed facilities. I like to put equipment in that I would buy myself. Bottom right, yes, we did escape Alcatraz. So I'm a swimmer. I like doing hard things.
What was your bid?
Pardon?
What's your price?
We came in at like $230, and then after conversations, we got up to about $310 with all the extended warranties, the extra cardio. So you're at $319, $220? $221, yes. Can you tell us something about
You know, I don't know what it seems like there's a variety of machinery. Tell me about pre-core life fitness in terms of price point because I can't go through each one of them. Right. Is pre-core more expensive? I mean, you can buy anything. Right, right. Is pre-core more expensive?
It depends. So Life Fitness tends to be a little more expensive, but everybody's got tiers. So Life Fitness has three to four tiers. Precor has four tiers. Star Trek has four to five tiers.
We started at Exsignia on Life Fitness. Okay. That's their high end, right?
Okay. And so on your machinery that you're showing us, are we middle of the road?
Same level, same level, lower price point.
Comparable to Insignia? Yes, yes. High-end? Yes. Because I saw a lot of cable type of... Did you have spinning bikes there?
Did we have what? Spinning bikes. Yeah, we did not. We had one virtual bike that's, yeah.
I'm just asking.
Glenn, just an add-on. They have an... maroon creek and a lot of clubs they just add that cybex machine you know that for shoulder and you do multiple things i think it's like a ten thousand dollar machine i don't know what the cost is do you have that cybex machine in this yes yeah we did functional trainers as well as the multi-stack so you've got one that's got four stations It's all the way in the right-hand corner towards the tennis courts. If you walked in the room, they might have moved it around, but it was in the right-hand corner. I don't know if they have it anymore.
Unfortunately, Cybex got bought by Life Fitness, and they stopped making the brand. That machine? Yeah, the machine.
They have one at Turnberry.
Which is a shame, because it was... It's a fantastic brand.
It's pretty good. Do you guys have any questions for Kelly? But you've got to adjust it. That's the problem.
Yeah, yeah. There's over 100,000 exercises you can do in your space. Right. So you won't get bored. You shouldn't plateau anytime soon.
Yeah, it looks like a great... Mayor, at this time, the equal number of minutes have been allocated to both presenters. If there's any questions specific to the presenter...
I just asked that.
Okay.
Thank you so much, Kelly.
You're welcome. Happy birthday. Thank you.
Sorry to make you wait so long. Mr. Mayor, before you deliberate, I just want to just want to make sure that our record is clear and that we protect ourselves against any potential big protests or the like. So all the presenters were provided an opportunity to provide us with their best bid at the pre bid process. As I mentioned earlier this evening, Liv did come in at a bid price of two thirty seven zero seventy five. And at that time, Lifestyle Fitness came in at $313,345. They were both given the opportunity to, after hearing the feedback from the wellness committee members, to adjust their presentations and adjust their prices. So if the numbers aren't adding up, you have two sets of numbers from both presenters with two different sets of equipment lists.
I got a question. Did Lifetime, he didn't talk about flooring.
No, it was included in his it was the floor is not included in neither of the two proposals. What live is proposing live is asking if they are selected to serve as the consultants. They will work with they have a floor. They have a foreign division to help us select the foreign lifestyle does not have that. That component we already have a product that we have pre-selected For the floor as part of our negotiated price with John Bell for the flooring We are already starting to talk to them about change orders because we want to do that push run area Flooring is not in either of their proposals.
One is recommending that consulting So with that I'm just gonna go around and ask your comments. I'll start with vice mayor any comments? I
Not really, I mean, I think it's really important to have good training on all of this equipment. I'm assuming both do the same. Resident training days would be amazing. The machines itself.
It's tough.
It's a tough one.
You, Judy?
I don't know what to say. They all seem good. Is there any possibility that we would want a little from here and a little from there?
Is those possible? To answer that question. The second presenter offers multiple diff options. But with Lifetime Fitness, I can tell you from the gyms that we work out at, they have different varieties of Lifetime Fitness. So any machine, I don't want to say any machine, but pretty close to any machine. It may not be like pre-core. Lifetime has a similar machine based on my experience in gyms.
Alex, you started to say something.
What I was going to say, and that was an excellent question about choosing from one or the other. In having independent conversations with both of the presenters this evening, know that Liv serves as a, they're like a broker. So they'll work with a variety of vendors to broker for you different pieces.
So they'd even get some life fitness.
They absolutely can. Limited. They absolutely can. On the contrary, Life Fitness is not. If you're not buying Life Fitness and their second brand, that's what they're going to sell you, and they're on their own. That does not mean, I want to be clear about this, that does not mean that we cannot on our own go purchase other equipment that they may be limited in providing to us. That's number one. LIV can sell us lifestyle. The mayor is correct. They cannot provide us all lifestyle. They cannot go head to head with lifestyle, but they can sell select pieces of lifestyle equipment. They cannot provide us with a completely outfitted. I will tell you that The committee grappled with this issue. Part of the committee members liked the ability to buy diverse equipment from a variety of vendors. I will tell you that I used the word hodgepodge a couple of times during that discussion. You know, you need to ask yourself a couple of questions. What's the field look and the makeup of the equipment? Can you get that from one provider versus the other? I think that color has a lot to do with it. So if you have ABC equipment, right, and they're all black, That doesn't mean that it won't look as good as just one brand all black, right? So don't be too afraid in that respect. The number of pieces is important because you want to make sure that your wait times are low, right? So the more offerings, the lower the wait times.
Which one of the two is considered the higher level?
Lifetime.
Equipment. Who has a stronger market lifestyle does?
What, what, what, what?
Who has a stronger market presence? Lifestyle does. But that's one brand.
When you say market presence, I guess her question is... You mean life fitness. Not lifestyle. But I thought her question is, which is the higher brands?
So all... Yeah, so I will tell you that, and I wrote the words down, during the presentations. So both companies can provide us an ABC option, a three-star or five-star. It seems to me, based on the presentation this evening and from the presentation the other night, that Liv provided us with that B brand. I will also tell you that Lifestyle was very honest with us when they presented at the workshop and he did not recommend the premium brand. He felt that the premium brand, so he didn't recommend the entry brand, but he felt that we should not spend the money on the premium brands because it's a waste of money. And so they're both selling us the middle of the road brands in terms of outfitting for the cardio type of fit.
Ken, what are your comments? Yeah, it's very tough to listen to this and choose because We're not comparing, even when I hear price, we're not comparing apples with apples. When I hear one of them has all these spin bikes, it's very difficult to know what equipment we're getting compared to the other for the price.
Well, we got a, from both of them, we got a pretty good feel of the equipment.
No, but I'm saying, like, one of them had 16.
Well, he said we could change, we'll change.
Yeah, once you select a vendor for us to work with, right?
We'll get rid of the spin bikes and buy different equipment, more equipment.
And my only, just going back to this... And are we, we're looking to select today, right? Yes. Okay. Cause I was going to say, if we had more time that we choose which ones, which equipment set we want.
We're not choosing equipment tonight. We we're choosing vendor.
Yeah. And, and mayor, I want to just caution both the council and the committee members who are watching at home. Um, And I think Mary, you hit the nail on the head earlier this evening. Some of you may be limited in what you want to offer, right? I think that we need to rely on our Consultants and or equipment provider to help us guide us, you know, I was I heard somebody say well We don't need a hundred pound weights right and then the mayor's of course we do and so We could definitely opine and give our personal preference, but you have a very diverse community and so we really should lean in on the people who do this for a living to guide us and we are talking to There are some residents that live here that do that. But the idea and I want to be clear about this. So the idea is that we accept what they have provided us as a general basis and we could edit that list. But we aren't going to throw it all out and start afresh. That would not be the recommendation.
So I guess when I start talking about this, what I was kind of hoping is not necessarily this would be a final, but that we would say. hey, put a price together for this package so we can compare apples to apples. If we don't have time, then...
Number one... We wouldn't know how to put that package together.
Well, I'm just saying that you're putting in two bench presses.
You're doing this or that, but... Well, the equipment, again, so everyone understands, we're not picking the individual equipment. What we'll do is once we select the vendor, they'll do a final proposal. Alex, we all can make recommendations to the town manager and then we can adjust with the equipment, you know, take out some, add some, and figure out what it is. But again, tonight, we're not selecting the equipment. We're selecting the vendor.
The only trouble, and I'd like to read this to you because this is what I thought would happen. If we go with Life Fitness, you will only provide Life Fitness equipment, correct?
Correct.
Okay. So in a perfect world, if you want to read this, Pre-core is smoother, more ergonomic, and joint-friendly. I'm just doing pre-core and life fitness because I think they're the top. Okay? Life fitness, heavier-duty, strength-focused, gym-hardcore. So in a perfect gym, they go with pre-core with the machinery, and they go with life fitness with the machinery.
Who says that?
Chuck GPT.
Seriously? Yeah.
I'm sorry, you said both of them. Which one's machinery and which?
Pre-core is more...
I'm not a fan of pre-core.
But for the elliptical and for the other thing, it's basically more joint-friendly and more smoother. And that's the only thing. You know... Pre-core for the... You're not going to go wrong with life fitness. I know the machinery. You know the machinery. You know, picking and choosing whatever. The only thing is, if you wanted pre-core as an adjunct for your cardio... As the town manager mentioned...
And Alex, correct me, we can buy, if we go, hypothetically, I'm just saying, say we're with Life Fitness, we could always add pre-core machines down the road. You say, hey, I want to get this pre-core thing. We can always add. It may not be through lifetime, but we could always add.
It might be a 10%, 20% difference in ergonomics, in smooth ability. I think what we're looking at is longevity and not breaking down. And I think life fitness is going to probably fulfill that. I think if you go with three, I don't know the star tech. Star tech, I know how to bite.
I've never even seen those machines.
And I'm a little uncomfortable with that. I think the monitors are important on a lot of these machines.
Well, the treadmills all had good monitors. Both companies had great monitors on the treadmills.
And that would, you know... Most successful gyms use both brands together. Pre-court, cardio, floor, general use. Strength, floor, and serious trainer. But if you go with Life Fitness, you're going to be... Well, let me give the scenario under the Life Fitness, right?
So if there are pieces of equipment that we think that a different brand would be better suited for our environment, then we would take out pieces or save budget and say, look, we're going to purchase these on our own. And then we would go and buy those equipments. And we would need to make sure that we save the floor space for those type of areas. I will tell you that I had the opportunity to visit one of the more premier gyms in the area that uses lifestyle fitness. And in that gym, they had three brands. They had Prime, Lifestyle, and Eric, help me out here. What was the third one? the other their second brand and so there are ways that so that that particular gym which is anatomy independently went and bought the other brands that they that lifestyle lifestyle couldn't offer the reverse can also be said about live so we live can we could ask live the hey outfit the areas that we like pro core the cycles and stuff like that and then we could direct purchase lifestyle fitness for the for the for the hardcore equipment. I will tell you that I think that's what the committee struggled with was in terms of diversifying your selections. Lifestyle is not going to help us with the bands or the ropes or the mats, but we can figure that out on our own if we need to. I will also now, as my personal opinion not your manager's opinion there is an elegance to having a more uniform gym you don't want it to be um hodgepodge hodgepodge i will tell you that i think that with either of the two vendors they can help achieve a decent look for the facility i think maintenance
is also really important because you don't want these machines breaking down and you have two, the response time is really important because you don't want two of the four machines broken and they're not coming to fix them.
I think both of them have pretty good.
Liv said between 24 and 48 hours, if we have a problem, they'll get in touch with us. That doesn't mean they're going to repair it in 24 or 48 hours. A big essential facility?
So, we have both proposals, okay? I'm going to make my recommendation, and then you guys can make your recommendations. I would say, based on the presentations that I saw, I prefer, again, it's my preference, Life Fitness. Okay. So I'm going to ask you, Vice Mayor, your preference.
I think I prefer Life Fitness with the possibility of bringing on a few machines that they don't have that we can complement the Life Fitness proposal.
Agreed.
Councilwoman let me agree with life fitness everywhere. I go. I see life fitness machines. They look good when they're all stacked together the room looks right It was honest. You didn't have to go to the deluxe Right and get a get a good job done and whatever and I think they'll be out Relatively quick if a machine that's up.
They're all over the mini total square feet So my votes life fitness Ken Bernstein, I know it's hard to make decisions You're gonna have to choose one
So just extending Ben's inquiry a little bit more, I put in, just add it into his GPS.
About 6,300.
How big?
About 6,300 square feet of open space. 6,300. 6,300.
Approximately, plus or minus. Give it one minute. Okay. Let me go.
Check your sandbox.
Sorry.
Ken, you should base it on experience. I mean, you belong to several clubs.
Yeah, I was just... Mr. Mayor, I may have a solution if you would allow me, once we hear the other two opinions.
I'm just giving this because we did this. So this was saying, and we first put in for $11,000, then we put in for $7,000, and then said, For your primary, the best strategy is go with life fitness, especially strength. And it gives a bunch of different reasons. But it sounds like it's already three votes for life fitness. No, but it doesn't matter. Your opinion counts. No, no, I'm saying based on what I'm reading, I would do life fitness, too. Okay.
Councilman Einstein?
The same thing. The demographics of the population, you know, I don't want to look at myself as that person. What do you foresee the people using the gym?
Honestly, I see majority of gyms, just from people walking around the neighborhood. I mean, Ken and I ride. I walk my dogs every day, see people exercise and walk around. I would say the average age in that gym will probably be 40 years old, 45 max. You know, there'll be some older, definitely, but...
Sixties. I know.
But there'll be a lot of younger people, a lot of the kids.
I think it's going to be very well used by all age groups.
Yeah, me too. But I think the majority of it is going to be somewhere in the 40 to 50 range.
That's the majority of the people that live here.
Yeah. I think early morning you're going to see older, and then when school gets out you'll have younger.
At the end of the day at 5 o'clock the people are home.
And that's also an aspect of the selection process, I think. If we were going to have an older population primarily using this, then I'd say we may want to look to maybe a little different type of equipment. If it's going to be on the younger age, 35 to 50, or active people like Ken and Glenn that work out frequently until they break a joint or two, they're going to probably want the life fitness, although pre-core Also, some of that stuff with the cables that she was showing, I couldn't really, it's hard to see that machine in my brain. So I'm leaning towards the Life Fitness.
And Life Fitness has the cable. Yeah, but I don't know. Mr. Mayor.
But I think they both could be adjusted to almost anything.
The only thing I want the cable is the pull and the pull down. And you want these cables. And they have that in the middle machine.
Mr. Mayor? So town manager, based on the town council's opinion, we would prefer life fitness.
Mr. Mayor, if I may?
Yeah. Let me offer you this, and I think it would best suit Clearly, Life Fitness has the unanimous support to work with. And so I think your motion is going to be that we work with Lifestyle Fitness to purchase the bulk of our equipment. Let me offer a friendly recommendation. I can tell you that we do not have the expertise, nor do we have the buying skills. So why don't we do this? Why don't we buy? We're going to work with lifestyle fitness and let me talk to live to see if they'll serve as our broker for consulting on the flooring, the buying of the equipment. They also have a better maintenance program. And so, like, I don't know where I could go buy a poor or prime and lifestyle is not going to help us with that. They've made that very clear. We will sell you ours and you're on your own. Right. So I think that based on the business model that Liv seems to be presenting, I think we could buy all of our equipment with Lifestyle, right? But I don't know tension bands. And Lifestyle told us very out there. So why don't we award the contract to Lifestyle? But also allow me to have a conversation with Liv because we're going to lifestyle fitness. It's not like life fitness, like life. So life has made it clear they're going to sell it, drop it and go. Right. And then they have what they call ISOs. They have one service tech in the entire region. That's all they have. But the ISO everything out. So rather than figure out who the ISOs are, knowing that we're going to want to buy other stuff and we're going to want better maintenance than what they offer. Maybe we could have a conversation on the if we're going to buy serve as our broker and help us with flooring selection because Lifestyle said they're not going to do that either. They're not in the flooring business. So I think that we could award it to Life and maybe have a... Contract out.
That's not a bad idea.
Town manager, quick question. Yes, sir. And maybe other people picked this up. Although they talked about warranties, there was another catch-all with preventative maintenance. Like a monthly thing where they come in.
That was live, not lifestyle.
Life fitness.
So live offers that PM service. Life fitness does not. They do once every they have a they have a schedule.
They have a schedule. And is that included in the warranty?
No. All of your servicing in your p.m. That's like your proposals warning work.
Yeah, so that's an Well, no the but the other one offered certain fee for every time they came over to repair it Yeah, because that fee was pretty strong
Which one offered that, Liv?
Yeah, Life Fitness. The fee is, I mean, we just got to realize that.
I can tell you from my equipment from home, I have the stepper, I have the treadmill, I have probably 15 pieces of equipment. I don't want to jinx it. I've had one issue with the treadmill in 15 years, and I ended up just buying the treadmill.
But I think, well, no, and the volume, and the volume, and the volume, and the volume. and the volume. So I'm the president of my condominium association and we have lifestyle and we have both pre-core. We have pre-core and matrix, which I'm glad that Alex made. But so so the volume dictates.
Yeah, definitely. And Alex, maybe, you know, to I'm not I'm not sure which you guys recommended it, but dear miss, maybe we could also work out some sort of hourly hourly you know, just maintenance type of program with them where they come with Lifestyle where they come make that part of the whole life.
I thought Life Fitness will come once a month.
Because that's a fortune.
Life Fitness will come once a month?
So remember, Life Fitness' model is they have one service employee that serves from Jupiter down, one. So what they do is they contract with independent providers to provide the ongoing maintenance and repairs. LIV does it all in-house. They have seven people in the region. They showed us pictures of these vans that have closets with all the extra wires and stuff like that. So my recommendation is let me work with both.
Let's buy the bulk. $250 an hour. $250.
We don't know what it is. We have to negotiate. And again, it's just throwing it out there. We could do everything in lifestyle. I just don't like when you want me to go buy a pro whatever or a prime that. $730. We do not have that expertise, nor do we have the buying power, right? So I'd rather go to a broker who buys 42 treadmills a month than me who's going to go buy one and see if I can get some discount in that respect.
Are we understanding correctly, though, if we happen to have asked Liv to go buy the life fitness equipment, it would cost more...
They cannot go head-to-head on a bid like this with Lifestyle. Life Fitness. Life Fitness. I don't know why I keep saying Lifestyle.
You guys get the names.
Because my Lifestyle is over.
But Liv in their inventory has numerous vendors that they work with. Correct. Where Life Fitness has one.
They're the vendor.
Correct. Town manager just to reiterate. So my understanding is we're gonna contract with life fitness We're gonna talk to the other vendor to see if we can parcel out Flooring some maintenance and some other machines from them, which I'm sure they would do Okay, and I'm possibly together the PM the gym.
Yeah.
Okay.
So with that any other council if that's if that's okay I just think that provides us a tool that we don't have right great suggestion
Any public comments?
Quick question. Yes. When we get down to the bottom line of selecting equipment.
He will meet with each of you individually.
The beauty of that part is now that we've gone with lifestyle, right? We'll have them provide us that sheet, right? Pictures and everything. And now we'll present it to each of you independently.
Can we have a tiny workshop on that?
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's have a tiny workshop on that.
Well, here's what we're going to do. We'll have a final presentation of selected items for your consideration at your April 14th meeting.
But Alex, we need to consider, we need to do it ASAP. April 14th meeting. The lead time is realistically four months.
Yeah, correct. So at your April 14th meeting, which is your next public meeting, we'll do that presentation. Okay, so with that, please clear your schedule from 11 to 5. So we're not rushed that day.
So April 14th, we're going to do the park and then we're going to do... Yeah, it's quick.
We'll do a quick presentation.
We have a meeting after?
The following week.
Okay.
With that, I'll close it. Council, any public comments? Roll call on item number nine, selecting Life Fitness as our vendor and with the option of speaking to Home Fitness.
Working with Liv. Working with Liv.
We got it. Roll call, please.
Mayor Singer.
Vice Mayor Mandel. Yes. Council Member Luskin. Yes. Council Member Bernstein. Yes. Council Member Einstein. Exciting, yes.
Mr. Mayor. Motion passes. Before you adjourn, I just want a couple quick reminders for the record. We're not going to be discussing the renderings. I've already made a decision in consultation with each of you. We're going to be eliminating the bars from the second floor and the exterior of the building. So just for the record, we'll be getting a credit back for that. The credit was $30,000. In addition to that, you have a publicly noticed scheduled workshop for Playground selection on April 14th and immediately following that the workshop will do a quick presentation that starts at 11 o'clock 11 a.m And there'll be how many presenters we're gonna try the limit of no more than five and then how much time do they get each? About 15 to 20 minutes.
Can we eliminate it to four?
So it's an hour. I haven't seen the proposals yet. So we'll have to you're gonna need more than an hour. There's Q&A session I suggest that the council clear schedule from 11 a.m. To no earlier than 3 p.m. I Remember, the public is invited to participate at that workshop, and they'll be asking questions and giving their opinions. And immediately following, we'll provide you what we're doing with the gym, and again, the following at your council meeting. Mr. Mayor, I just want to say thank you again for allowing me to serve as your manager for the last 19 years. As required by orders, I will be departing the state of Florida at 3 a.m. tomorrow morning, and I'll be back on... Next Tuesday in celebration of my birthday. I'll be in Mexico Linda Everson will be acting town manager and Rudy Herbal will be available for all public safety issues with that always appropriate one day With that mr. Mayor a motion to adjourn is always appropriate But am I correct?
You have everyone's birthdays one day.
Mr. Mayor a motion a motion to adjourn is always appropriate clerk Am I correct?
We have birthday one day. Yes, sir. Hey, we're gonna make a motion to adjourn all favor say aye. Aye great job
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