City Council - Regular Meeting

We're good. Call meeting to order. Shelley can do roll call, please. Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, thank you. District one, Councilman Rios is excused. District two, Councilman Pastor, present. District three, Councilman Letham, present. District four, Vice Mayor Stapleton here. District five, Councilman Gonzalez here. District 6. Councilman Shipley here. Mayor Gomeros here. We have a quorum. Mr. Thank you, Shelby. Fernando, can you send the invocation, please? Yes. Thank you. [snorts]

Lord, thank you for this day that we can be here to do your work. Please help us to make the best decisions possible to help our community. We especially want to thank all our staff and our community partners and everyone who's dedicated time, energy, and effort to helping our community. Uh please help us with our um appeal to FEMA and we thank you for the leaders that um got FEMA to come back out and look at our community again. So hopefully we will get a favorable result and thank you and help us to work together as a community and to respect each other as human beings. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Mike, can you lead us in the pledge?

Sure, Mayor. Thank you. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I will turn the gavl over to Vice Mayor Stapleton. uh he'll open the city of globe municipal property corporation uh meeting.

Good evening everybody and welcome to the uh the municipal property corporation meeting. I just want to take a moment to explain what the city's municipal property corporation is and why it's being discussed at this time. The corporation is a legal tool the city established back in 2007 to support and finance city projects. While it while it has existed for many years, it has not been actively used to advance any of projects. Um, as the city faces increasing infrastructure needs and financial complexity, we are taking a fresh uh look at the tools that already exist to help us plan responsibly. Importantly, this is not about creating something new or moving forward without oversight. Before any use of the corporation, we are updating outdated bylaws, clarifying roles and authority, and ensuring full transparency [clears throat] and alignment with council direction and public accountability. Our intent is to thoughtfully position this tool so it can be used if and when appropriate to support the city's priorities in a clear, responsible, and transparent manner. So, as of right now, uh the the board of directors are current officers. Uh I'm the president of the corporation. Uh the vice president is Councilman Rios and the secretary is Councilman Gonzalez. So we have suggested new board members and uh the recommendations for the nominations and appointment are uh

James Menllo, Ben Lleair, Steve Stratton, Robin Bradford, and Susan Guerrero. So, do I have any questions from the council or any comments? Do we have anything? No, nothing. Okay. Need a motion? Yeah, I need a motion to uh to appoint the five new members. I would move to appoint them as presented. Okay. So, I have a motion in a second. I call for the vote.

And Mr. Mayor, members council, just so you know, by appointing these five new members, that will clear the that will remove the U7 as current members because we are switching to a five member um structure, right? This is also recommended by legal counsel too that we should not these we it's a wonderful tool that we put in place. We've been keeping it alive when we're getting close to using it here. we did some up uh updates based on the changing of the you know of law and and the current situation and so uh that's what's been driving this.

I think it's kind of like how the other uh boards are like HP pack and what have you where we're not the board anymore. So this is exactly the same way as how they are running. Any other comments? Mike over there might have a comment. Yeah. Could you give me the the the names again? Yeah. I don't like that question. [laughter] So, the first one's James Menllo. Okay. Uh Ben Llear, Steve Stratton, Robin Bradford. And then Susan Guerrero.

If you'd like a copy of this, I can give you a copy as well. And our victims are willing. Yeah, that's what I was just gonna ask. Yeah, they've all Yeah, they've all agreed to uh be members of the board. So, I have a motion and a second. I'll call for the vote. All in favor say I. I. Any nays? Nay. Uh motion pass. Thank you. There you go. Thank you. Close. Close the meeting. Can I close the meeting and go on to put your hand there?

Oh, you should see me when you're not here. [laughter] So, we'll go to a summary of current events and Mariana, we'll start with you down there.

Mr. Mayor, you attended the Affinity Veterans meeting yesterday and I I want to thank you on behalf of Globe Miami Elks for attending. Uh the mayor passed out an award to Linda Merlin who's a dedicated volunteer of that group. She drives all over the valley as well as supporting uh veterans uh functions here in Globe Miami. And because of that, um, that group wanted to have her recognized for her diligence in promoting the access to health care needs of the veterans. And so I made a request to the mayor and we put together, the mayor put together with Shel's help a proclamation honoring her. And I will tell you, Mr. Mayor, that was the hardest secret to keep. That's it's hard to keep a secret in Globe Miami. She was um she was surprised. [snorts] So that she was speechless which is rare but I wanted to say that uh but Miami Elks is supporting uh this activity. Once a month they will be there affinity on behalf of the needs of the veterans in Globe Miami and we also have a physician coming who will be offering uh counseling uh for access to health care. uh we are supporting a a place, a table, uh a space. He'll be bringing a laptop computer and the good doctor can help those veterans that uh need help. And uh by doing this, we help the veterans and by honoring Linda, we recognize a lot of people in this community just get up and volunteer and she's one of them. So, I want to thank the city and you, Mr. Mayor, for being there yesterday. I really appreciate it. Thank you, Fernando.

That's all I have. Um I just wanted to kind of share that we had a legislative day for um KAG, which is all the governments that are in Panell County and Hila County are represented by that board and mayor happens to sit as a chair on that. Uh but we hold the legislative day. We bring leaders from across the state at the municipal level, county level, and then we talk to our legislators. Um, and I've not had much luck trying to ever get a hold of Wendy Rogers. But she showed up

and she's um, seemed very supportive of trying to do anything she could to help us. So, I think that's why it's important to do those and to be there and to meet those people so they see us and know that we're real people that need real help. Um, so thank you for putting that together. Um, and I know that uh, is it Marshall? Representative Marshall's trying to run a bill for us to try to give us special funding to help us with the flooding. So, actually that'd be Representative Blackman. Blackman Blackman. Sorry, Paul. Blackman. So, that would be great. So, if you guys know anybody at the state level that's making these decisions, let them know how important it is to us. That's it, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you, Mike.

Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor. rabbits up in Las Vegas about a week and a half ago and coming back. We stopped in Cayman and we had to charge my son-in-law's car. So, I went into the local museum up there and lo and behold, the first magazine I see on the rack is magazine advertising the Globe Miami community, the big bright orange magazine. I thought that's pretty good all the way up here in Kingman, you know. So, it's nice to see that we got our name out there and whoever's doing that, we're doing a good job with it. So, thank you, Jesse. I don't have anything. Thank you, Mike.

Uh yeah, I just have a few things. Uh tomorrow night, there's a uh town hall meeting here at city hall for flood mitigation. Uh there's going to be discussion on sediment and debris removal. uh what rights of entry allows a temporary construction easements and that city staff technical partners will be on hand to answer any questions. Uh forms will also be available for review and also to sign and then Melissa is going to head that up. So thank you Melissa for taking care of that. hopefully get a big group and that uh you reminded me today that's for uh um globe u people only. It's not for city residents Miami or anything. It's just globe residents. Correct.

Okay. Anybody that owns property along the the waterway I can when when you get to my portion I'll update a [snorts] little bit here. Okay. Yeah. And then second, uh, Jesse's heading up a a state of, well, he's not doing the state of the state, but Governor Hobbs is doing a state of the state in PAC on February 25th, and it looks like we're all going to go except for one council person. So, that'll be good. And that's Feb February [snorts] 25th at uh, I believe 10:30. So, that's all I have. Mayor,

thank you, Mike. Yeah, just follow up on uh Councilman Gonzalez's on the veterans affinity. Uh yeah, it was an honor to speak there and give that uh award to Linda Merlin. She really deserved it. But I think it's it's it's important that we get the information. That's the first I heard of it and I sat through their through their whole meeting and learned a lot about but for our veterans, they help retired veterans through all the the barriers when they're going after health care and and uh whatever part they need help with as far as their veterans. They get the benefits they they deserve to cuz sometimes it's a long process. uh he they talked about one uh widow that it took three years to get the benefits from her husband and and it was quite a bit of money but they they went out and they went they helped these uh retired veterans. So it's important that we get that information out to our veterans. Uh the other one and Councilman Shipley mentioned it. It's House Bill 2070 and it is uh Representative Black Blackman that's a sponsor of the bill and that is going for $25 million uh to Hila County to help with our recovery efforts here in Globe Miami. And we're going down next Wednesday, February 4th to the to the House and we'll be testifying in in front of committee uh to help him uh push this through. hopefully can get it through the House and to the Senate and get it approved, bring money to Globe Miami. That's all I have. So,

and Mr. Mayor, members council to expand on that. The 2070 is House Bill 2070 is an appropriation bill. Um, and so it needs the support of the House. It needs to get to the Senate, but we also need the governor's support and the and the governor has the ability in in such an appropriation bill to do special things with such bills. So, she can she can definitely help um support or rescue uh that 25 million. Uh and and we thank Hila County for taking the lead to getting this this is a it's a it's a low bill number 2070, which means it's the first one of the the first 70 bills in. Um and uh we we thank Representative Blackman uh for for taking point on this. uh and we will be like I say we will be down to support it and we'll we'll talk a little bit about um uh the our trip and and coordinating that but it's very important. The other thing is we're have very watchful eye on uh another attack on food tax um even though it's heading for the ballot to uh hold us harmless and and it the food tax is a one of many ways that municipalities tax uh to to provide municipal services. Some people use that because that works better than property tax. Other people have all kind have other strong taxes and and and don't uh and don't rely on the food tax, but allows municipalities across the state to customize and and uh do the the the the best good with the taxation powers um that works for their community. and and we'd like to keep that ability to have food tax um uh to to use since we have so many people traveling through, stopping, loading up at fries, heading to the lake or heading up north. And so uh that's a way for those visitors and travelers to um pay, you know, to to support the services that we need, police, fire, public infrastructure.

Yes.

So, and Mr. Mayor, then on the uh event tomorrow night, the the event tomorrow night primarily if you have property that uh abutz or in uh inside the uh panel creek, you obviously you you've seen the damage in there and it's something that we're trying to eliminate uh any future damage and lessen the ability of of dram uh catast catastrophic flooding there. And so we are going to be inviting anyone who has property in the creek to come in, look at maps, talk to us about how we want to partner with those those homeowners in in getting uh it groomed and uh the sediment removal so that the creek can go back to a historical capacity and handle the historic the floods uh the rain as it has historically. Question.

Will you live stream that tomorrow as well? Uh we had not planned on that because it's it's it's for a custom group, but we're uh tonight we're going to talk about more. So we should probably have this conversation when it comes up on the agenda tonight. So Mr. Mayor, members council, that's all I have.

Thank you, Paul. Just to follow up on the food tax. It's a shame that we're still battling this three years later. We've been battling this at the state level and bills for for several years, and it keeps coming back to us in different manners. Uh it would devastate many cities in Arizona. I think 72 cities out of 91 have food tax and for the city of Globe a cut in sales tax revenue or revenue to food tax would cost a million dollars out of our fund balance out of our b operating budget. So it's huge for us and it's huge for a lot of cities. So we'll be again we'll be testifying against it and uh see if we can get it to fail again for the third time. Thank you. So, next we go to first community call to the public. And this is a chance anybody uh in the audience from the public wishing to address the council uh can do so. Uh you're limited to a 3minut time frame. Uh just a reminder that uh the council on call to the public cannot respond to the uh individual, but we can direct staff to follow up on anything that we may feel that needs to be followed up on. So, first we have Jacqueline Anderson.

Good evening and thank you for the opportunity to express facts. My name is Jacqueline Anderson. I'm a newer member to the globe community and I will talk fast to try to get in the three minutes. My intention is to provide information in this meeting on the resultant effects of exposure to non-native electromagnetic frequencies or EMFs. Before moving to Globe, Arizona, it was not my intention to pursue research on non-native EMFs to the degree in which it has consumed my time. My background for the majority of my life has been in healthcare. My interests are for optimal health and well-being for all, including our children. To clarify, we are all born with naturally occurring endogenous electromagnetic fields within our human body. They play a vital role in maintaining health and physiological function, including nerve signaling, muscle contraction, and for the body, cellular communication. Man-made external EMFs referred to as non-native, all emit radiation. A few examples, I'll be brief. MRI, X-rays, Bluetooth devices, smart meters. There's vehic ve vehicular smart technologies, power lines, electrical wiring, etc., etc., etc. Wireless technology have not been required to include protection or shielding from harmful effects to public exposure. By May of 2025, last year, there were 20 bills introduced to the House to be passed by law sponsored by technology companies and corporations to grant immunity and the liability for the harms caused to the public from this technology use. Everyone is affected evidenced in either acute symptoms or eventual chronic conditions over a longer time of exposure. Distance from and exposure time to are key principles for taught in medicine for protection. I have a paper list with a few resource links for reference that I've maybe copied and I encourage everyone to do their own research. Please keep in mind that the use of AI for answers is

convenient, but it's a programmed closed source system as opposed to an open-source system for information. Therefore, it can conta contain misleading information. In the remaining time, I will begin an incomplete listing of harmful effects from non-native EMFs to the human body. Increased tumors, cancers in the brains of babies and children. Increased susceptibility and suggestability from programmed words used in communication to children and young adults even into their 20s. Fetal repos repositioning during pregnancy can occur. Sterility and erectile dysfunction. increased production of viruses, bacteria, and molds in human bodies and in buildings. Those with implanted metal metal devices such as joint replacement, shoulders, hips, knees, brain clips, pacemakers, AICDs, defibrillators may experience increased sensitivity from the harmful non-native EMF effects. Metabolic disturbances include lowering the magnesium blood level, elevation of blood sugars, variation in blood pressure, strokes, Alzheimer's, memory changes, brain fog among old and new, neuroscych psychiatric problems, and DNA damage to all tissues, psychiatric neuropathy, respiratory symptoms, gastrointestinal symptoms, auditory disturbance, and carcinogenesis, which is formation of cancer cells and more. Thank you. and I'll leave my reference for anybody.

Thank you, Jacine. So good to meet you finally. Good to meet you. So we have talked many times so and so we can continue our followup and Jacine's talked to me at the Thank you, Jacine. Next we have uh John Daniel. Thank you. Good evening. Johnny,

mayor and council members. Uh, everybody in attendance, thank you for being here this evening. Um, mayor and council, I would like to uh thank you for your time and energy uh that you carry in serving our city. Um, I recognize the challenge of balancing safety, growth, and long-term sustainability. And many of your efforts in those areas are appreciated by families like mine. That appreciation is why I'm here tonight to speak thoughtfully about a growing concern shared by many parents in our community. [clears throat] Recently, issues surrounding family care and education choice have become more prominent, including daycare and home education. If the growth of visibility of these choices has raised concerns for the city or certain neighborhoods, I would respectfully suggest the starting point should not be restriction but understanding. [snorts] The most important question is why. Why are families choosing inh home daycare? Why are parents choosing home [clears throat and snorts] education? Have there been intentional conversations with daycare providers, with home educating families, with the county superintendent or [clears throat] school leadership because communication creates clarity and clarity leads to better policy. Our community is unique. Policies that work elsewhere simply [snorts]

cannot be copied here without understanding our culture, our families, and our specific needs. Following the reported loss of state funding to go globe public schools, I [clears throat] ask whether dialogue has taken place to address that root cause. and collaborative solutions suggested restrictions without communication create distance. This is one more example where it feels that the quality of family and life and family experience is not always the forefront of decision-making. I share this to encourage better understanding, stronger communication and partnership. Thank you for your time, all you do, and your consideration.

Thank you, John. Thanks, John. [clears throat] Do we have anybody online or I have nothing on? Let me check one more time. Um, nothing online. Oh, you [clears throat] have one. Yes,

Mr. Mayor, members of council, I do have a uh [snorts] email from David Barry, who is unable to be here in person tonight. Uh, he wanted to uh speak on a few issues with the lack of stamped drawings for the city's bracing at 410 North Broad Street, as well as the void under the city sidewalk that is causing issues with his building. Uh the mayor mentioned that the Globe Miami United Fund would be speaking this evening. I wanted he uh gave he wanted to raise some concerns about the second round of funding for structural repairs and the lack of a publicly provided official document on round two uh criteria. Um, let's see. Sorry, touch screen. [clears throat] He's wanting to make comments on how the town manager has handled the right of entry as it [cough] may uh pertain to the creek's property and present that the city should have a mediator or property owner advocate as those affected by the flooding shouldn't bear the burden of legal protection of their rights from the city and there should be no no more than one person to negotiate before the city takes legal action. from his experience with his 410 building. Uh this created issues where there is no oversight for the town manager and information presented to council in executive session is one-sided and prevents property owners from unnecessary unnecessary escalation to civil court cases. It wastes taxpayers resources due to unequal access to their representatives who only receive the city staff side of disputes. That is from um Dave Barry.

Dave Barry. Okay. M council, we are in uh weekly if not daily communication with Dave with Mr. Barry 14.

Oh, okay. Next we have special presentation and item 4A is presentation and acceptance of $500 donation from the proceeds of the Globe Rotary silent auction to the city of Globe active adult center to be used for operations of providing meals for seniors. We have Wendy or Maryanne will not be joining us but Eric. All right. Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, rest of the globe city council. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Um I was hardressed to find a taller person to make me look shorter at this podium. [laughter]

Um my name is Wendy Stanfell, president of the uh Rotary Club of Globe. This is Eric Bowman. I'm sure you are all very familiar with him as well. He is also a fellow Rotarian and soon to be president-elect for our next term. So we look forward to being under his direction of the Rotary Club in the next two years. Um, the Rotary Club of Globe has been performing acts of service in the Globe community for over a hundred years and we've always had a very good partnership with the city of Globe and with all of our communities. We are always encouraging anyone to come with us or come to us with any ideas of fundraising, any ideas of ways that we can help. And we are very proud to be able to present to you this $500 um to the Adult Activity Center. It was a private auction, a silent auction that we had between our members during our Christmas party and we're very proud of the funds that we did were able to raise and we are very happy to hand them over.

Awesome. Great. Thank you. [applause] [laughter] So, Mr. Mr. Mayor, Members Council, um Tammy, our our manager of the active adult center is in the audience, but I don't want to make her if you want to come up. Let's get a Tammy if you would like to. She should accept it. Yeah. [clears throat]

And and I will tell you that that Tammy is very self-sufficient down there and every Thanksgiving she knows is coming when I'm like, "Oh yeah, we're doing Rotary lunch or Rotary dinner at for Thanksgiving." So, I just would like to say thank you for the wonderful donations. We have a lot of things that we're thinking on buying. So, thank you so much. And I also want to uh thank the city of Globe, mayor, councilman, city manager. You guys uh bought us some uh um what is it? Uh the uh the bags for meals on wheels, the hot and cold bags and the ice packs. We appreciate that dearly. So, thank you so much. And thank you again.

Thank you. Shake you. Thank you. [laughter] And what will you do with the 500? Oh, we already They want pots and pans into the mic so everybody can They want pots and pans. They already want a big uh can opener to open up number 10 cans. And Linda's still making me a list. I'm like, we only have five. Well, thank you so much. Thank you. Get Tammy in the middle. Yes. There we go. [laughter]

Item 4B is city staff will update the council on the right of entry permit request for flood mitigation, flood recovery initiatives, and related flood recovery activities. And that'll be I think we're starting with with Melissa. [clears throat and cough] Yes, Melissa, Tony, and then uh Gary.

There's not a speaker up here. We can. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, I know we spoke about this last week, but we wanted to go a little more in on the property owners and the the mitigation that we're working on. Um, debris, sediment removal, stuff like that. Why flood mitigation matters. Um, I think we all can we know the why. It protects lives, homes, businesses, and critical infrastructure by reducing flood risk in the future. [snorts]

Um the truth is that more than 80% of the creeks within the city of Globe are privately owned and we as a city as a municipality cannot just go on to private property to take care of an issue. We have to go through a whole process starting with an ROE. Um go ahead. Um, because the city only owns a small portion of drainage corridors, legal access is required to evaluate conditions, maintain infrastructure, and pursue long-term flood mitigation solutions. So, we want to make sure to respect the property owners. Um, the plan of approach is to follow a structured property owner first approach. Each step builds towards long-term flood mitigation while respecting private property. Um, legal documentation ensures transparency, protection, and accountability for all of us. So, step one is the ROE. That's what we're working on currently. That's the right of entry. That will give us temporary access for inspections, surveys, engineering, basically to make a plan to evaluate what's changed. Um, this doesn't do anything for the property owner. It just literally allows us to go take a look. [snorts] Okay. Um the temporary construction easement would be step two. This will actually allow construction to happen on the property. So this will be what's needed to go in and remove sediment from from the creek beds. That will be based on the professional survey by the engineer. And then after that work is done, the ROE is is done as well. Um, based on engineering results, there might be long-term solutions depending on what the creek looks like. If we need

something built or taken care of permanently, then we might have to look for something like a voluntary quick claim deed um, or a permanent drainage easement allowing access and maintenance for the long term. Um, and then just flood mitigation is a shared responsibility. We all take care of the creeks and it's something we all need to do. Um, property owner cooperation allows the city to move from emergency response to long-term solutions. And each step will be transparent, respectful, and purpose driven in helping to make Cloak safer in the future. That's all I have.

What do we have? a I guess a resident that refuses to sign a right of entry. How do we if we don't mitigate that one area? What happens to our our total plan?

Mr. Mayor, members, council, I I think we're going to have strong support. Um I think as as we go through and people um learn the learn the facts and learn the importance of what we're trying to do. Um this is the the flood the the water coming through uh Penel Creek. If you're going to fix it, it's like fixing a chain. every link of the chain has to be reinforced and and if if someone is reluctant to uh to sign over and allow this we will work with them figure out what are their concerns what can we do to mitigate those concerns how can we uh you know how can we arrange that but um in the end I I I believe we'll be successful um and uh and we'll work through there I so let's we'll wait and see how this goes but I [clears throat] got a question too, mayor, through you. Uh, we ran into this problem back when we had the telegraph.

Yes. And a lot of people Well, I don't have a number, but people were refusing us to go onto their property. Melissa, did I I know this is a different time. Yeah, I think that probably opinions have changed. Um, also we're being very transparent about the entire process and making sure that it is a a partnership with these property owners. That way we can make sure to make it better for everybody. I'm actually more concerned not about people not cooperating, but having absentee owners that we can't contact because it doesn't make sense that we don't take care of it, especially if they're

So, we did pull the list. Um, we went through parcel by parcel. Thank you to Eric for all of that help. Um, and we've looked at the most recent owners on the Hila County Assessors Map. So, we're we're looking at the most recent information as of 2025. So, hopefully that's not something we'll come across. I know of one already. So, [laughter] [clears throat and cough] I think uh we'll track them down. I'm pretty good on Facebook. I think it's a different time than what vice mayor brought up about the telegraph. So I think we all saw the potential what can happen. We have to build capacity in those waterways and it has to be total cooperation and partnership with everybody. It does. Yeah.

It's happened in other communities. It can happen here. [clears throat] If we don't get 100% buy in, what do we what are we going to do? We'll work with them. We'll we'll work we'll work with them. I like I say, we'll just see how far we get. You you start at the beginning and work towards the end and and a lot of times towards that end when you're the last one in. It's important that we start early now because we we we want to get the the lowhanging fruit and then you know concerns and then see what's left. But but we are on a time crunch. We have 220 days once we are approved um uh by NRCS to to get this work. Did I say it right? Yes.

Okay, good. Um to get this work done. We haven't been uh approved yet, but we've already uh contracted with an engineer to do the engineering. We're lining up uh construction to to do this. They they they will be going hand and foot at the same time that that they're engineering whatever is engineered and then we have we are working to get the the construction easements. Then they'll go on and start working on there and and we'll work through the whole place u until we're left with those last pockets that need special attention and and then we'll address those when they when they come up. But but again, we we need we have this 220 days, which is important. It's it's a it's a tight deadline, but we're okay with that because we don't you don't know when the next storm's going to come from the um from the Gulf. You don't know when the next monsoon's going to hit, when you hit multiple, you know, canyons and they and they come through, you know. So um so we're okay with this. We are but the city has taken on the responsibility of getting these easements. It's not the county. It's not a contractor. It's not the state. These are our community members. And I think that will make the difference.

It's kind of a threepronged machine that's going to have to go fast and f furious as soon as we get going. So, it's going to be communications, engineering, and then construction all happening at the same time.

We have we have packets made up already for all the the known property owners. We have um they'll be available tomorrow night. Anybody who is a property owner that knows that that or thinks they may have property in the creek, welcome to come. We'll have maps on the walls. We'll have discussion. It it's it's not so much a presentation. We've had a lot of presentations on the flood, but this is this is a to help those owners get the information they need for their personal decision to to assist or you know, and and in what way. And so that's uh that is what we're trying to do tomorrow. It's going to be more of a of a conversation with individuals with our our team here to to answer their questions. And and that's why I think it doesn't it doesn't um fit to a video uh feed because you're just going to see a bunch of people mingling over a map talking to one another. So because council letham your your question about broadcasting I think it would be uh the broadcast of people mingle mingling around talking but but not one person presenting to a group and so it's going to be it' be kind of a muddled

okay so this will create some uh well apparently we'll have to go out and do some doortodoor personal in for we have to go out and search them out if if they do not show up and and do it voluntarily I guess

we just start the process Mr. Mayor, I just um if I may, just wanted to point out that if you [clears throat] didn't listen to the last meeting, uh we lined up our ducks with the contractors, the engineering firms that will be working with our staff. So, I just want to point that out. We're trying to move as fast as we can in order to make this happen. So, we've already got that in play, uh the engineering firms, and I just want to point that out. And uh if there's anything we can do as councilman to to help this process along to meet with the homeowners later, I'd be glad to because we are at a we're in crunch time, but we need to convince people and if we have to do that, I'd be glad to meet with them. And I appreciate once again our staff are stepping up and helping. Thank you, Melissa. And at the same time, we're the other juggling act is to provide information to the second request from FEMA. So, I want the public to know how hard our people are working to please many different aspects of this response. We're still in response mode and now we're trying to address long-term solutions. My my personal benchmark is the work that was done after the flood of 1954 and you can see it how high the walls were built and the methods of construction. And I don't know the history on that, how fast it took him to build that, but I feel we're in the same kind of time crunch. We've got to move and it's time to get it done. So, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

Thank you, Melissa. You have other presenters, too. You have other presenters. Oh, yes. No, we're we're going to transition from that if there's any more questions on the event tomorrow night. And council's welcome to to come um uh and and listen in and chat and and you may be, you know, we may call on you as we get further in the process to um to make reach out. Um, so next is uh is uh community development uh director Tony Mford.

Good evening, mayor, members of the city council. Hope you're all well tonight. Uh for those who don't know me or aware of me, I'm Tony Man Freddy, community development director, building official. Uh I was asked to uh come up and discuss with you about our enforcement um activities, where we kind of stood from uh September from the flood to present um and where we're kind of a brief activity uh summary of where we're at with that. So, within approximately a six-month period of time, we've uh conceded on a lot of the permitting processes to help uh businesses uh and residents uh both move forward um in the easiest possible way we can. And uh that provided a lot of site visits, provided a lot of exemptions to some permitting that we could uh exempt at the time and do so safely. And that's the key aspect of that. um and uh we helped it move along to kind of keep it moving along and provide what resources that we could. With that being said, um we do have to plan to keep our jurisdiction, our community safe and move forward um and not be um and not stay at a standstill. So um we will be providing all the resources that we can permitting will be going back. we will obtain some exceptions um for people still doing some of the work. An example of that was um some uh strip cutting, drywall, some electrical dry out things like that, things that we could work with uh that were time consuming uh on one end, but by conceding on that we can move forward and get people in there to fix these items and work them and get businesses, get residents back in uh operation and back into order. So

by April 6th of 2026 um that we will go back to our normal enforcement of code uh and requirements while still adhering to some of the exemptions. I just want to keep nailing uh talking about that piece. The whole key here is trying to get people back in business and people back in their homes and we have to do it safe, efficiently, responsibly. And so, uh, April 6 is that key determinating factor. Uh, if we don't make a a date to move forward, um, we took 10 steps backwards when the the storm hit us. And, um, we were making forward strides prior to that. And what I mean by that is uh, coming up with a resilient community um, based on disaster. And that's what we did when we adopted new code and we put those things in place and we did some other things to help with that. Um so those were forward strides. Now that the flood hit us, we took some backward steps unfortunately by mother nature and um the importance of moving forward and not being stagnant. that is we have to prepare for the next event and even though we don't want another event and don't wish for it and don't hope for it um again mother nature will do what it calls for and we want to make sure that we're prepared for that. So when we don't address these items we deal with factors factors can be uh uh leftover debris fields diversionary factors. So if we have water come in and we have stagnant uh structures or debris fields, we're diverting water again to areas that uh they shouldn't. Um we have damning factors. So we have destructive debris movement. So these are all um

these are all factors as well as health factors. So when we have uh debris left over and sitting um they continue to mold and infest disease u entice rodents and things like that. So these are all pieces of uh of that that equation that we have to address. I'd like to touch on um couple stats when it comes to that. And so um through the national uh ocean o ocean and atmospheric administration it's the NOAA uh prepared some stats that talked about um disasters and storms. Um there were a total of 310 severe weather and climate events since 1980. That number keeps climbing. Um the stats and the data stats give us you know they split the country in two. We have an east coast and west coast everything in between. And um it's normally been on the east coast we have flooding west coast we have fires. Um those patterns are changing. Um the world is changing and and that's what we're seeing those pattern changes. We have to prepare for that. Lastly, they don't um they don't gather together for secondary um disasters. And what I mean by secondary disaster is what comes after those. So in areas that are prone to fire like we are on the west coast, the secondary event can be flooding. We have scolding to the to the uh uh ground to the mountains, loss of uh of um greenery uh that promotes absorption of water. Um and the scolding itself sheds so much water at once that we lose control over

the natural elements that we have to deal with these secondary disasters. So I wanted to bring that up because I think it's important to keep that in mind. Um, since that 1980, those each each of those events uh causing over1 billion um $1 billion in losses with an astonishing $2.15 trillion in damages and over 15,000 fatalities from these types of events. We're not alone. So, we went through this as a community. We'll get through it as a community, but we're not alone. We see these types of events hitting us nationally. And we want to be a jurisdiction that tends to overcoming and providing a resilient environment, uh, with so many communities out there. Um, and of course, you know, we're a smaller rural town, um, which gives us an advantage to help with that. But we're seeing disaster hit areas that um are sitting in very bad positions and they're years later. We have non-development. We have rotting structures whether they're residential or commercial. Um these areas are not habitable. They're not allowing people into these areas. We don't want that. Uh that's the last thing we want. We want to move forward. We want to get people back in business through the livelihood, their businesses back intact and their their residential structures, their they need places to live, especially for a jurisdiction that has a shortage in the first place. So, we have to move forward and progress um and make sure we do that in a responsible way. Lastly, the uh the effects of building codes. This one very main aspect of resiliency is the adoption of building

code. We went over this when we adopted our newly 21 codes that went into effect January 2025. And because of that and because we follow codes, we have some structures, new development structures that are in the works that adhere to these codes um to include when I say codes, I'm including floodway, flood plane items. And because of those factors, we had these structures that were direct path of flood that not one drip of water entered the building. It did some property damage, but not one drip of water entered the building. And why is that? Because there were codes that governed and had data sets and why it was important to follow these standards providing elevation in those areas and it worked. Does it always work? No, it doesn't. It's right. It's dependent on the data data that we get. Mother nature of course, right? And so those data sets change um based on um uh the geographical area. So, and that's how we determine code and that's how we determine elevations and that's how we determine resilient construction. So, we do that and we we we d that gather that data nationally and then we amend it to fit our needs. So, when we did amendments, not every state, not every city, not every town matches those of others. So as we amend, we look at the issues that we're faced with, the dis disasters that we're faced with, loss history that we're faced with, and what the future um um forecast for us. So that's why those um items are so important to us. I wanted to hit on that and uh just for the pure fact that, you know, six months later, we're asking people make make movement. We're, you know, we're we need to enforce. We need to get back into the swing of things. We

need to get back to normaly and get people back in business and people back in their homes. So, we're here to help with that process. We have a lot of resources. We continue those resources and discussions as you're all aware. Um, so come see the building safety department. You know, we'll help the best way we can, but we do need to move forward. Um, so, um, I think uh lastly I did want to hit um share with me one there was a number I wanted to share with you. So since 80 1980 on it was estimated that we have $240 billion in structural savings by the use of building code. Those numbers keep climbing. And so that's a big number. And so again going back to why that's important is these are resilient codes. These are meant to minimize damage caused by disaster um or trauma to a structure. That's why we adopt code and that's why we we utilize code is we're trying to minimize those those items. And what that does is minimizes not only monetary losses for uh business owners and residents alike, but it it allows them to get back into their homes and businesses faster. It minimizes that catastrophic damage. So very important aspect of that. I just wanted to hit those quick quick elements of that. Um if there's any questions, please please let me know.

Questions comments? Just a couple comments. And I think I've said this before, Tony. I think you and I have had the same career but in different eras. Um early in my career, we used to evacuate uh during fires. Uh points of safety were considered 20 miles away. Um 26 years later at the end of my career we had to evacuate people 50 miles away for safety. You can have all your arguments about climate change or change but that's the reality and I agree with you that we have to face that in a resilient manner. So I thank you for pointing that out. Appreciate it sir. Thank you Mr. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Tony.

Thank you. Before now, I I just want to acknowledge I forgot Brian Zeppela with resolutions here. Just want to acknowledge the audit. Thank you. And uh Chief Robinson has a a very brief update on just what's what's going on with uh the our process. I get the very brief very brief.

All right. [laughter] Mayor, council members, um, as most of you are aware, uh, we did have a, uh, representative from FEMA in the community, uh, last Wednesday and Thursday. Um, that was in response to the appeal to our FEMA declaration filed by the state of Arizona. Um, they were extremely responsive to that appeal. Um we had two representatives from FEMA and multiple representatives from DEMA back in the back in the community. Um again, staff went back through um we started with a a kickoff meeting and set a plan in place and then staff went back through with those representatives and back through the sites that are, you know, in that were of particular interest to to their staff and what they wanted to see based on that 60-day report that we filed. Um the FEMA process is a it's a there's a two-tier process when it comes to appeals to FEMA. Um with this one they came in uh we reviewed everything that that they wanted to to look at plus some things that our staff recommended. We went through that that review with them. We did a follow-up meeting. Um, one of the things that I I felt was was important to mention was the one of the senior um, officials from FEMA back east was on or excuse me, this is a regional appeal uh, at the region was on [snorts] and and you know just reiterated that they want to get it right for us. And so as they as we went through that review, um following that review, uh we received a list uh a request for information list on numerous document numerous pieces of documentation that we have related back to the flood. Uh our original deadline for that is this Friday. They gave us

they gave us seven days for that. um pretty standard, but we we have since had a follow-up conversation with DEMA, and we feel we have a very strong case to get an extension, which we have filed as of today. We requested an extension out another 14 days. Um the list is pretty comprehensive on on data that they want. A majority of that data we have um in in the review that we've done as staff. Um some of that data we need to to comb through a little bit more to make sure we we get it right. we make sure we have the information that that they need um plus anything that may help us support uh their understanding of that information. From there um once once we have submitted data, we've reached that deadline, um there is generally up to a 90-day uh review process that they can that they can go through on that. Our hope is that that may be shortened. Um and and we see uh we see a determination of our appeal sooner than that. Um based on that we do have you know there is there is further options in the event that that that is unsuccessful. Our hope is that it it won't be our hope is that we'll be successful in that appeal and um we would have another option to file an appeal back to uh the final appeal would go back to the the main office in in Washington DC. Any questions, concerns?

I think you've answered this before though, but if we we were awarded the NRCS project, will that revert back to 9010? If we do, if the appeal was successful, I believe I believe it would because of the overarching umbrella, it would it would go that way. Everything under that umbrella would do.

They coincide as well as a a FEMA declaration opens up other avenues of funding. it opens up some potential other things within within NRCS within other programs as well to to potentially help fund that. All of it being or most of it in most cases being reimbursible expenses still. Yeah. And again all of this these fundings is for uh public infrastructure only although with a FEMA declaration it opens up avenues for for private individuals and the most important thing the the buy the buyout program. So fingers crossed. Any questions? Thank you, Chief. Yeah.

So now we have item 4 [clears throat] C is the Globe City Council received an update from the United Fund on the business relief grant. We have Susan Guerrrell here. Um, good evening, mayor and council members and everyone. Brian Christian. Um, a brief update with residential um, since last time I was here two weeks ago. Another [clears throat] 30,000 has been dispersed. Assistant services are um, mentioned in the previous meeting are the same. Salvation's um Army staff is extremely knowledgeable and professional, so we're really um glad to have them. Um it's been four months since the flood. I think we've had some slow but steady progress. So, um we'll keep just making progress. There's a FAQ regarding residential flood relief program available on our website. I'm not sure if I mentioned that last time. ufglobemiami.comfaq. You all have the information in your packet. I don't have slides or anything because it was Okay. Um, moving on to business. Our business update. So, the flood relief program has wrapped up. Local First Arizona is the nonprofit partner agency that did the intake and processing of the applications. I have a a breakdown from Jenna Ral. She's the local first Arizona rural development director. Um they processed 159 grant applications between the two rounds. There were four full-time staff persons working on um application processing and phone

interviews with business owners. And they were extremely supportive of the businesses. They their job is normally to support businesses. So it was like the perfect partnership honestly. Um so 71 business 72 businesses have received funding. The total amount raised um to date is 2,247,8332. 1.4 4 million is allotted for business support and rebuilding, 800,000 for residential flood relief program, 50,000 for flood mitigation efforts and planning. So next we have the list of the 71 businesses and their grant amounts followed by about 50 corporate donors and individual donors. on the website now um is this complete list of donors and business recipients. So it's ufglobemiami.com/flood Any questions? Comment. This list you gave us, this is the total amount distributed and the total donations on on

Yeah, like we just finalized the last um dispersements this week. That's That's amazing. So, yeah, 1.4 and $76. And it's still open then for donations in Yeah. Yeah, the residential is still open. And if there were someone that wanted to designate a donation to a specific business or resident, you know, or nonprofits, that will be honored. Did the contract end with local first now, right? Or is this still still open?

No, it's it's over. It was a lot more complicated than I think they initially anticipated. So, um, yeah, that kind of went longer than anyone expected, but they did a really good job. So,

thank you for all that you've done. I know it's been a lot of work. A lot of it's it's uh people don't really realize how much work you guys have gone through. United Fire, United Fund and all the the players in there and the local first [clears throat] and Salvation Army. Um, you know, it's been amazing. I I just want to point out that none of these businesses would have received anything. They a lot of them had no flood insurance, had nothing to help them. And so, you stepping up in that big way was huge.

Yeah. And I I have to give it to my leadership, my president and my executive director. They were on board, knowledgeable, ready to get going, um advocating for residents and businesses, doing we're all doing our part. So, went a long way in helping to rebuild and open those businesses as fast as they were able to do. Amazing. That's a lot. Thank you,

Mr. Mayor. I just need to comment. [clears throat] Paul, I gave you a report out from uh donations uh uh put out by the that they received the Globe Downtown Association. So that's on file as well as as to who got what. So [clears throat] it supplements what you all have been doing. And I guess the second comment I'd like to say is u I'm really humbled by the individual donations that name list at the end. I don't [clears throat] know what's what's well I have a lot of humility seeing these names on here. A lot of private donations were made from across country and uh especially in the globe Miami area. And then you you add in all of the donations that came in. Uh there's so much local uh giving that occurred during this event and I'm I'm really proud to be part of this community. We we helped our own uh all the entities came running business, government, private donations and it's very heartening to see uh we have still a lot of work ahead of us in doing our repairs to the city but see all of this happen and and I said this in the previous meeting, none of us in the room are donations management experts when it comes to disaster recovery. We had to make it up as we went along and you all did and you were successful at it. I and I've said this before as well. I've had people gripe. Lack of information. What are you all doing with the money? And all I could tell them is it's being worked on and it's being delivered as it comes in. Pledges had to come in and so timing is everything. So I say to the public, I don't know if we can make this report

public, but I'll tell you this is in a nutshell what we as a city, as citizens in the region have done to help each other [clears throat] with no I shouldn't say no outside help. I should say with the resources we had and the contacts we had and the reaching out, this is what this represents. I want to thank you all for your efforts. I really appreciate it. That's all, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. And since Brian's in the audience here, I just want to acknowledge resolution for $1 million donation. That that is amazing to the community. I mean, you got to acknowledge that the largest donation. Yeah, for sure.

One other thing from United Fund. United Fund, did they pay for the administrative costs that went to local first and Salvation? They didn't take money out of the Yes, we paid for the administration with non flood um funds. And that's people need to know that too. Yeah. All 100% every single dollar went to um the residential and businesses that were directly impacted by the floods. Along with that, we do have Christian here. Does will he be like give us a report on the small business association at this point? I think it qualifies under the update. Yeah. Okay.

Um before we do that, Jude, do you want to do the We did we did have a a person wanted to speak to the item. Okay. Uh through an email from Mr. Barry and but this is an item so so we can everyone can respond to the email. Okay. Okay. So let Shel go ahead.

Mr. members of council. Um this is from David Barry and um I want to begin by expressing genuine gratitude to the donors, sponsors and volunteers who have supported our community's flood recovery. That generosity has been mean meaningful and will help many families and businesses move forward. I also recognize the hard work of staff at the Arizona Rural Development Council and local Arizona First for their professionalism throughout this uh initial grant process. Tonight, I'm requesting this council's attention on three interconnected matters that require transparency, accountability, and corrective action. First, on the Globe Miami business relief program and phase 2 funding criteria. The city council approved a service agreement October 13, 2025 with local first Arizona Foundation that expressly requires the city of Globe to develop and approve the eligibility criteria for this program. That contract is the governing document. It places responsibility for criteria approval directly with this council. However, more than three months have passed and I have been unable to obtain a formal written record showing when the city council approved phase 2 eligibility criteria. official documentation of what those criteria uh actually are, proof of when those criteria were made public, the date those criteria were communate communicated to applicants. Instead, I've received references to an informal FAQ document. When I asked for the formal criteria, Susan Guerrero from United Fund stated, I will politely decline your request for round two documents. The public deserves better over 1.2 million in charitable donations plus $200,000 in city taxpayer funds have been distributed. Applicants who were told their properties were ineligible

for phase 2 should have that decision based on criteria criteria that are clear publicly available and informally [clears throat] and formally approved not on interpretations of informal documents applied after the deadline has passed. There should be an appeal process to have round two funding reconsidered. I respectfully ask this council, can you confirm that you formally approved phase 2 eligibility criteria and if so, when and where is that approval documented? Second, on the lack of public the on the lack of a public record. The city's own city manager stated that Globe Council took no action was not involved in the setting the criteria for the distribution. If that is accurate, the service agreement has not been followed. It is not accurate. Documentation of that council action uh action should exist in your meeting minutes or resolutions. The public has a right to know who specifically made decisions about how public funds were distributed and when those decisions were made. This information should be easily accessible through your city clerk's office. I urge this council to establish clear protocols for property owner negotiations during municipal emergencies that protect individual rights while allowing the city to accomplish its legitimate objectives. In closing, our community has experienced a shared tra tragedy, but recovery is strongest when built on transparency, fair processes, and equal accountability for everyone, whether they're donors, city officials, or flood victims. I am not here to attack anyone's motives. I'm here because these are solvable problems. This council has the authority and responsibility to ensure they are solved. Thank you for your time and consideration. David Barry.

So, Mr. Mayor, members of council, um there's we've had many conversations with Mr. Barry. We've explained much of this. Um I but I would like to point out um one accusation he's making from the city is is false. the um uh the city of globe when we passed this in uh initially we gave the the criteria that he's talking about was who qualifies to be considered for the funding for the original 200,000 that the city of Globe put in that is phase one that is the extent of the city's involvement and what that criteria was are they a business or a business inside the city of Globe, do they are they a resident or inside the city? And then did they experience flood damage? Because uh United Fund and local first, they don't they can't easily figure out who is in the city, who isn't, and they can't easily figure out who was damaged, who wasn't. And so that was the criteria that we shared. That was the limit of what council's participation does. And we funded phase one because we were the first ones out of the gate with the money. We none of our money went to phase two. So I don't the um uh he's talking about whether the um deployment or the issuance of money with phase 2 um was under council guidance or anything like that. It it was not this is we were not the city of globe was not involved in that that was handled by the nonprofits and so just for clarity uh there the reason there is no documentation is because there is no participation and Susan if you want anything you want to add.

Sure. Um Mr. Barry it's a special situation for multiple reasons. Um, I wasn't going to discuss it at all, but as far as um the questions, I'm not even sure where to start with the um so I'll say um we've had countless correspondents with him. um me, my leadership, many people around town like a chamber for example, [clears throat]

um Jenna with local first and we've answered all our questions like it was just um not stopping. So, the other thing was I'll mention since he wants to discuss it, I guess he did have um his requirement waved for four applications for having his um business license. We've done our best to work with him. We're aware of his situation and we'll um he's still on our radar. So, thank you.

So, just a comment, Mr. $200,000 by the city of Globe. I would call that public monies,

but the rest of the funding is not. And I need to point that out to this council. And again, we're dealing with private donations. And as I've said before, no one in this room, and I said this the last meeting, no one in this room is a mass specialist or a disaster recovery specialist, which means we have to make it up as we go along. And I've seen this successfully done in other disasters, flooding, fire, you name it, for a community to roll up their sleeves and and pull themselves up by the bootstraps. And they will try anything to make it happen. They they go to the Home Depot of the world and they beg for resources. That's an example I've seen. So I've seen it time and again where the community helps themselves because no one else can help and they realize it's just them from the smallest communities of Hila County, Tono Basin, etc. to this community which is the first time I've seen it done and with a staff willing to take it on and uh with other entities contributing private and other donations coming in to do that and I will stand for that at all times. I will point out 200,000 city of globe we were first out of the gate whatever criteria we need to meet on that uh amount fine let's let's deal with it but the rest of it is not our responsibility it's not public funds and so the entities that step up to help as I have seen in the past distribute the resources as they see fit and sometimes it's a real complainer that gets some money and people grumble but everybody realize they're getting something to help recover and I've seen that time and again, they accept it and they move on. So my comment is I think we've done our due diligence on our side up to this point in time and I think the entities involved in this in the distribution. You include the Globe Downtown Association in that process as well.

They distributed funds. They made sure that they kept a record of who got what. So, there's so many entities supporting this recovery with the donations presented and I think it's an admirable piece of work and I support them 100%. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, if I could, I just want to thank you again for all that you've done. My heart goes out to every business owner and individual that was affected. And unfortunately, when this many people are affected and there's this much money, it can't it can't help just one business. And to see what you've done is amazing. and the criteria you came up with is amazing and the way that you guys put it out and and shown here in in

transparent documents the way that you did is amazing. So you guys should be commended in every every effort that you have done. So I I appreciate everything that you have done so far.

I'll mention to there were like I believe 56 um applications within City of Globe during that initial round. So, your money did get um used during that initial round and um you'll see there on the list. Um furthermore, for round two criteria, yeah, it was pretty simple. Flood impacted Globe Miami business. Um and then get licensed for round two. Same exact thing. Flood impacted Globe Miami business including Wheatfields, Central Heights, and incorporated areas. and um active and licensed at the time of flooding was the kind of additional one for round two. But looking at the business list honestly it's like you see the I see the list and think um yeah okay I I remember that business and seeing that they were active licensed businesses. So

I agree and I I don't want I I don't want I guess to Mr. Barry, I don't want his comments to speak louder than all the commitment and all the work the United Fund and Globe Miami did along with with uh Local First and Salvation Army. You see this list, how many people were helped. There was not going to be any help without that United Fund stepping up and doing it. Um as far as the city, the 200,000 all I remember that we committed that 200,000, but it was too dedicated to City of Globe businesses only. that same council meeting, we waved two months of water fees for those people, those individuals impacted. That's the only thing the city of Globe had to do with it. But nothing should out be louder than what the work was done with with Globe Miami United Fund.

And Mr. Mayor, members, council, I think Marin would like to add in or

three. Um, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, I would just like to clarify that while this is our first mass response, United Fund of Globe Miami has been serving the community since 1964. We have been connecting charities with donors for that long. No, we are not in the business of connecting businesses with flood relief. However, we took that 60 years of experience and a whole lot of energy and a whole little tiny bit of thanks and we turned it into this effort. What people say is a reflection of themselves, not a reflection of the work that was done. We have to look ourselves in the mirror every morning. We have to know that our integrity is there. Every year we file our 990. It includes a complete list of funding recipients. Those same recipients, including this year's uh businesses, receive a 1099 every year. We are on top of our paperwork. We do it to not only the best of our ability, but to the federal standards of a 501c3. And often times we annoy people in the community because we say, "Oh, you're not current with your 501c3. Sorry." Right? It we have to uphold those standards. We every time we make a decision are choosing to uphold those standards instead of pander to public opinion. And that's all it is. The information has been shared as it is available. As uh you pointed out this evening,

United Fund itself covered all the administrative cost, not just for local first, but the time that Susan and I put into it, our salaries, our pay, that's not coming out of the flood donations. And it's tens of thousands of dollars between local first and and the work that we've been putting in. We've been tracking our time separately between what goes into flood relief and what goes into the regular work because the regular work still has to get done every month. It has to get done. And I'm sorry that the community has members that would choose to focus on something else. Um 1099s were filed yesterday and everyone receiving one should receive that in the mail in the next 5 to seven days. And all the recipients received a letter ahead of the 1099 verifying their information and offering them the opportunity to file a separate W9 in case any of the information that we had didn't match. So while we are learning, we are also following best practice and upholding the absolute standards by which our board has governed itself for more than 60 years. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Susan. Okay.

Your turn, Christian. Good evening everyone. My name is Christian Lewis. I am here from the Small Business Administration, Office of Disaster Recovery. Um the flood was what, four months ago. We had staff here about 10 days later. Today was the last day at the um the chamber. We had people on the ground for 108 days. Um during that time, the last numbers that I saw, we approved about $5.6 million in loans to businesses and homeowners. Um even though we will not have people on the ground anymore, people still have the availability to go to sba.gov/disaster businesses and still apply for disaster loans. That'll still be open until September. Um the Secretary of Agriculture additionally approved a new disaster on the 14th that will run until November. that still covers this county, Cookanino, Maricopa for businesses as well. So, there's still opportunity for people to access business funds if that's what they so choose to do. Um, we just want to say thank you guys for allowing us into your community and being so hospitable for us. And, um, you know, my my number is floating around here. People know how to get in contact with me. If you need anything, if there's anything that I can do for you, it may not be something I personally have, but it's something I can connect you to, by all means, reach out to me for sure. Thank you. Yeah, I have a it's a specific one that that applied um and this and this uh resident did happen to have flood insurance.

Okay. Um but the flood insurance they had did not cover their contents. Okay. And so when they went to apply for the loan, [clears throat] uh I guess part of the loan criteria was that you needed to have a flood policy and with contents coverage as well as structural coverage. Okay. And so they were told they couldn't apply. But I was trying to figure out why because I I know some people had no flood insurance at all and they were able to apply and then the company would not allow them to change the policy because it was midterm, right? And even though it wouldn't affected the claim, it's they still were unwilling to do so. So these people basically felt like they could not move forward.

Several things. Number one, I always say no matter what anyone tells you, always appeal. I'm all for getting a second opinion. Um the other thing is that I do realize we have had a lot of changes in staff. Um so everyone does not know everything and that's why I say do the appeals process. Um when you are denied the the the client letter should tell you exactly what the problem is but a lot of that stuff will actually come out in like the underwriters really going through. But the basic system itself at the top line is kind of automated. So there may be some things that get missed, but by all means appeal. If if they completed an application, it's still in the system for up to six months. So they have the ability to go back at least twice on appeals. So by all means appeal.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. What was the uh the number as of yesterday of loans? That number I do not have yet. Yeah. The latest date. Yeah. I don't I don't I I You got the last numbers that I got. I was sending you. Yeah. I have not gotten new numbers yet. It was at least five and a half million. Yeah. They were the surprise of this particular disaster for me personally and professionally. Uh there was a lull in applications and then as [clears throat] word got out Yeah. that your agency was available

and as we went through other things in time dealing with federal agencies, you were the only one that responded and helped us. And I'm not downgrading our application process right now with FEMA. I'm just saying you guys were first on boots on the ground. Yeah. No, for sure. And we have made it known to our congressional delegation how happy we are with your uh help to this community and encourage them all to continue funding through your lead agency. Yeah. To help the communities of of America. This is neat to see and I thank you for your help.

Oh, we appreciate it. Again, you know, we have that federal mandate. When people do invite us, we will be on the ground within 48 hours. I mean, the the terms that you get on the loans, you really won't find anywhere else. You really really won't. So, I I tell people all the time, go ahead and apply. Even if you decide you don't want the funds, it's better to have that money earmarked just in case because you never know what's going to happen down the line. Terms, interest rates, everything was was something our public began to realize, hey, this this we got to look into this. And so, I'm proud to say that number has grown substantially, and I'm very happy that you all were here. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else?

Christian, thank you for you and your staff for embedding yourselves here in our community. We really appreciate it. I also want to thank the Globy Chamber of Commerce for opening their doors uh for allowing you to open your your your application process here. So, thank to both of you. Great. Take it easy. Thank you, sir.

Next, we go to consent calendar. Matters listed in the consent calendar are considered to be routine or be enacted [clears throat] by one motion and one vote. Public hearing items are designated with an asterric prior to consideration of the consent agenda. The mayor will ask whether any member of the public wishes to remove a public hearing item for separate consideration. Members of the council and or staff may remove any item for separate consideration. Item A, consideration of waiver of section 2-4-10A, prior discussion rule to allow action on the balance of the consent agenda. A1, accounts payable, $996,99282. Item two, consideration of approval of council minutes. Item A, consideration of the October 28th, 2025 meeting minutes. Item B, consideration of the November 18, 2025 meeting minutes. Item C is consideration of the December 4th, 2025 special meeting minutes. And item D, consideration of the December 9th, 2025 meeting minutes. Item B, consideration to ratify contract number CS2026082, a CM Precision Escavating Grading LLC executed under the City of Globes Emergency Declaration Resolution 1921 for clearing, loading, and hauling debris as well as removing propane tanks caused by the September 26, 2025 flood event for a total contractual amount of $12,71543. 75% of this cost will be in re reimbursed by DEMA contingency on eligibility requirements through account 208008008 DMA 2020 2025 flood. The remaining 25% will be funded from account 1055-51296 DMA 2025 flood match. Item C is consideration with the city manager's approval of a special liquor license for the Holy Angels Catholic Church for the

February 14, 2026 Valentine's Day dinner and dance located at Holy Angels Parish 151 East Sycamore Globe, Arizona. Item D, consideration to approve purchase order number PO-26266 for the purchase of parts and fittings from Fort Line Waterworks, the lowest responsible quote in the amount of 32,16.75 from account 508051248. Anybody from the public, council, or staff wishing to remove any item for separate consideration?

I would move to approve the consent agenda. We have a motion and a second for approval of the consent [clears throat] agenda as read. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I.

Oppos. [clears throat] Nay. Motion pass. New business. Item 6A is consideration to approve Giga 20260093 with the Arizona Department of Transportation for the Arizona Smart Funds grant that was awarded to the City Globe in the amount $31,212 to be used as a match portion of the US Department of Transportation 2023 safe streets and road grants received through account 204208193 US DOT grant revenue and request to wave section 2-4-108. for our discussion room. Connie,

good evening, mayor and council. as a me in a a way of getting back to normal. Um this was something that was pre flood. Um and um during the flood um we had lost communication with the Arizona uh DOT for the Arizona smart funds and and as a result when people change hands or administrations change. So, our our original uh person, our monitor had retired and and really, I guess, uh not communicated very well to the rest of the staff. And so, our uh our award kind of sat there waiting for something. And then during the flood, Andrea Roblos uh came up to help us. And I just happened to say something to her about this uh specific grant. and uh she started making some phone calls. So, we got back on track and today now we have the contract in order to um sign that and be able to access this funding which will be match for the safe streets grant which is a federal grant. Um and this uh Arizona smart funds was made for u matches for grants for different rural areas. Um, but it's also you can use it in in conjunction with a grant to make the grant bigger. Okay? So, there's two ways you can use it. I wanted to make that clear. And, um, also, I'd like to invite Danny to the podium because she's going to share a little something about the um, the funding uh, codes back in September of 2024. Um the match was originally brought to you in the

FY25 budget in account number 1280522000 which is the capital outlay um construction account. However, at that time we were going to be responsible for this but with Conniey's help and able to get the the grant that is going to be moved now from the original budget amount. Um and it's going to be received in a grant account um which is going to be 204208011. That's our revenue account. Um there will also be an expense account which is 20808011. So it'll be tracked as a regular grant instead of an expense that's been budgeted.

Will that include the the full amount or just the match? That will just be the match. those accounts. The um the actual grant itself has another account and that account is also a grant account um but it's 204208193 which is the um the US DOT which is on the the agenda for tonight. So those funds have been received by the city because I as we went to legislate today we find that you know smart the smart funds are decreasing and and going down but we have that those funds already.

Um no these are reimburseable grants so we don't hold those funds or we don't receive those funds until after we expend funds and put in for the reimbursement. Okay. But we have the award the award. Okay.

Okay. And and just to kind of tie this up again just as a a quick reminder. So this is the $124,156 safe streets grant from Department of Transportation which is a federal grant. And we were going to have a $32,212 cost match local match for this grant. And now we were awarded the uh Arizona smart funds to help us out with that match in total. So at this point we uh we will re we will seek reimbursement for that $32,212 and um and then we do not have a match for that. That clears us for match on that grant.

Okay. Mr. Mayor members council to the mayor's question uh this came out of previously appropriated money from the state and federal. You're right there's questions on the table this cycle whether in the future when we go to apply additionally there may not that money is you know will not be there but but that legislative activity that we're seeing at the at the capital does no impact on this and this is all good news.

Yep. And so if if uh if you don't have any more questions, I'd like for you to or we'd like for you to uh wave the section 24 uh 10A prior discussion rule to vote. Any questions or comments for a motion? Make a motion. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve IGA 20260093 with AOT as stated and two-way section 2-4-10A. our discussion rule. Second. We approve a motion, a second for approval of item 6A. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor say I.

I. Oppose. Nay. Thank you, son. Thank you. Item B is consideration to approve resolution 1925 is a call of election for the August 4, 2026 primary election and November 3rd, 2026 general election. Shelley and Shelley, can you read resolution number 1925, please?

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Resolution number 1925, a resolution of the mayor and council of the city of Globe, County of Hila, state of Arizona, designating election dates and purpose of election, designating the deadline for voter registration, designating the place and the last date for candidates to file nomination papers. Is council pleased with that reading? Yes. Yes.

Mr. Mayor, members of the council, the call of election officially announces and authorizes the city of Globe to participate in the 2026 elections primary in general. Uh this uh resolution um establishes the legal framework to participate in the uh elections and allows the city of globe to place uh council seats uh on the on the ballot. And this year we have uh district three, district four, district five and district six will be on the election. Um, the dates to file nomination paperwork with the city clerk's office, uh, uh, the last date to file would be or the the time frame to file those nomination paperworks with my office would be March the 9th through April the 6th. Um, candidates wishing to run can pick up packets at any time and and circulate after they filed the statement of interest with the city clerk's office, but the time to file the nomination papers uh is are within those time frames. So, the last date to file is April 6th, 2026, 5:00.

Questions, comments, motion, [snorts] or do we need a motion? Oh, do we need We don't I think we're going to um just uh move this for motion move this forward to the next available council meeting. Okay. We're not going to weigh the rules. That gives two two public announcements just to be totally transparent. Make a motion to approve that state. On the February 10th, we'll have this we'll have this again. February 10th. Final approval. We have a motion and a second for approval of moving forward item 6B to February 10th uh meeting. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor say I. Both names.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um who made this the second motion? I didn't hear that. Okay. Thank you. It's always working. [laughter] I don't know how you catch him sometime. Yeah, she's seven. Action item 7A. consideration to approve additional funding in the amount of $111,466 to the Arizona Department of Transportation for additional design costs on the Broad Street sidewalks transportation alternative TA [snorts] project to be funded through account 128052000 excise tax capital outlay construction. Travis,

thank you. Mayor, vice mayor, and members of the council. Um, in an infrastructure committee meeting that we had one or two meetings ago, we brought to your attention that uh the Broad Street sidewalk project needed to be uh further designed for what we intended to uh do for Broad Street. And so with that, we had to return the construction funding that we were awarded. and uh we were happy to do so because we know now with this continuing of this design uh we're probably going to need to ask in request for more construction funding which the grant cycle is coming up uh here in the next month and due I believe in March. So it does give us an opportunity to capture more funding uh potentially u but uh we did have to cover the the additional cost for the redesign since the original design cost that was allocated through the grant that we when we went to get the grant for the design uh is drying up and so um with that said we uh we were originally quoted about 160,000 I think at the infrastructure committee meeting we were able to reduce it down to at least the 111 and 466 that you see in the in the agenda. So, we're just uh looking to uh fund that so we can finish design and move forward with the construction

questions that Mr. I'd like to go ahead to approve additional funding in [snorts] the amount as stated to AOT for additional design costs account number 1280 by 2000 XI tax like construction. Second motion second for approval item 7A. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I n motion pass.

Thank you. Item 7B, trans consideration to approve change order number one and two for contract number CS20260035 with Apache Underground and Escavating LLC to resto resolve and separate common line sewer common line for a total amount of 35,417.31 using the sewer common line replacement account 5180-52203 and approve a budget adjustment Investment reducing the sewer project reserve account 51805302 by $100,000 and increasing the sewer common line replacement account 518582203 by $100,000 for this and other sewer common line issues for fiscal year 26. Travis,

thank you. Thank you, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the council. Uh this was one of our last um big common sewer lines that are under the current with uh the um clean water loan that we have. And so we're finally closing that out after this project once we get this if we can get this approved. And so um there wasn't quite enough funding to cover the entire project. Um I believe in August we came forward to request additional funding to cover that. But since then there were additional costs with these uh [clears throat] with these um change orders. And uh I want to commend actually Apache Underground for doing this while they're also doing the emergency um projects that they were doing for from the flood event as well. But um these are just to cover the change order um and the additional cost to finish that project.

Questions for coach? Nope. Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to approve change order number one and two for contract number CS 2026 005 with Underground as presented. Second motion second for approval approval of action item number 7B. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor say I.

I post nay. Motion pass. Thank you. Item C, consideration to ratify contract number CS20260083 with DJ's Companies Incorporated, executed under the City of Globes Emergency Declaration Resolution 1921 for the use of the back trucks to clear debris and mud in the sewer main lines caused by the September 26, 2025 flood event for a total contractual amount of $37,925. 75% of this cost will be reimbursed by DEMA contingent on eligibility requirements through account number 208088008 DEMA 2025 flood. The remaining 25% will be funded from account 51851296 DEMA 2025 flood match. Travis,

thank you mayor, vice mayor, members of the council. just this is one of those early responders that um you know as we're going through the invoices and making sure we have the information we finally got to to bring forward to ratify for the work they done within the uh first few weeks of the flood event comments or questions and motion to approve item C is right second motion second for approval of action item 7 C is there any further discussion questions [clears throat] Go ahead, Mike. These are the vac trucks. Is this the same type of vac truck we just bought? So, where are we with our people being ready to use that vehicle?

Yeah, it's pretty expensive to rent those damn things. So, if I get our

Good evening, mayor and council. Um just uh reference to this was one of the initial as as you remember in presentations that I shared with all of you. We had actually already were in the process of receiving our truck but during the flooding event that we actually had not were not authorized to utilize our own equipment because the training had not been established at that point. This these phone calls were actually to this contractor and this was even prior to Apache Underground uh coming in and helping us as well. So at one point we actually had four back trucks. But yes, these these phone calls are very expensive without having the equipment. Our staff has been diligently working now since then uh with uh our local, you know, our local projects and what we're doing. We've had some back backups and they've actually out there and they have been trained. So they're actively actively using that. They just used it last week on a on a sort issue.

So everybody's trained and we're we're using her, huh? Yes. the staff members that we have and then we actually have CDL driver uh that actually got certified prior shortly after the floods. So yes, Mr. Mayor, members, council and John, some of these back trucks are bigger than the ones that that we use. So these are longer reach and were they not a larger?

Um some of them have a little bit more capacity but the one thing that was helpful for when Tallison came and actually worked in area they were actually able to utilize ours and then that's where staff actually did some hands-on training with them because their truck was actually per the dealership that that staff was actually trained in the same type of equipment. So we're able to get it out there sooner otherwise we would had to bring another truck in. Yeah, good deal. And then M's council John, a lot of this work was done on the weekends too, wasn't it? Yes. So there's that's why [clears throat] that you might see a higher rate because I mean it was [snorts] seven days a week for about a month there.

Yeah. This contract specifics actually through DJs, but he actually he contract he has a contractor that comes from Phoenix for this work. Yes. Okay. Thank you. And I want to add to that too. um a lot of the work that was [clears throat] done during the recovery um not enough staff equipment. So, you need additional equipment as there's multiple uh sites going on. So, um even if we had our our staff trained, one truck wasn't going to take care of it all. So, we had to bring in other outside help. Yeah. No, I was just curious if we got our people trained. So, so if we have an emergency come up, just a single one like that, we're ready to go.

Cool. I'll call for the motion. All those in favor say I. I.

Oppose. Nay. Motion pass. Action item number 7D, a consideration to ratify contract number CS [clears throat] 202600084 with Apache Underground, an esavating LLC executed under the City Globes Emergency Declaration Resolution 1921 for the repair of collapsed sewer pipe at 1100 North Broad Street caused by the September 26th, 2025 flood event for a total contractual amount of $53,355. 75% of the cost will be reimbured by DEMA contingent on eligibility requirements through account 208008008, DEMA 2025 flood. The remaining 20 25% will be funded from account 51851296 DMA 2025 flood match. Travis,

thank you. Mayor, vice mayor, members of the council. This is one of two patchy underground contracts. Um the reason we kind of kept them separate because this was more of a specific project uh of the flood event because of the collapsed u sewer pipe as they were jetting through the lines through the creek. U if you recall the first contract that we did was the first half of going through the creek and and going through those sewer lines. was kind of offset from that, but it was caused from the flood of collapsing that pipe. And then when we get to the next one, it's it's a continuation of the first contract, but uh but this was a specific location.

Mayor, I'll move to approve item E as presented. Second. Got a motion, second for action approval of item 7 D. Sorry. Uh, is there any further discussion? All those in favor say I.

Post nay. Motion pass. Item E, consideration to ratify contract number CS20260085 with Apache Underground and Escavating LLC executed under the City of Globes Emergency Declaration Resolution 1921 for the continuation of emergency sewer infrastructure repairs caused by the September 26, 2025 flood event for a total contractual amount of $658,871. 75% of this cost will be reimbursed by DEMA contingent on eligibility requirements through account 208008008 DEMA 2025 flood that's twice isn't it 20 okay 20 the remaining 25% will be funded from account 518051296 DEMA 2025 flood match

mayor vice mayor members of the council This is the second of the two and as I was stated earlier, this is the continuation of the first contract. Um, just because since they were doing a lot of work, we had to kind of break this up as um Patchy Underground was putting a lot of uh funding from their own funding to to make this happen. So, um, we decided to break it up in portions u from a contract standpoint, but they are completed with the work. So just a question. Do we still have a lot of outstanding invoices? I guess this we're catching up with all these and we're trying to Thank you. It it should be on we pass that up. So let's

So you have remaining invoices and and what? So Danny, do you want to jump up there? Yes. Pass down. [clears throat] I I think I I would I would direct Danny, do you talk about what we have left with Apache Underground since this is an Apache Underground conversation, but but this kind of walks through everything. I believe that the 653,000 is the remainder of what we have at this time from Apache Underground. I'm not sure that we're going to get any more um because the work has been finished for about a month now for the floods.

Yeah, the the flood work that they were doing has been completed for about a month now, I think. Um, I I'm not aware of any others that are coming. So, I think this 653,000 is the the final on them. There are very few invoices that we have left as you can see on that. I mean, we've for the most part paid everything that we've gotten. If they are still on that list, we're waiting on contract ratification mainly um is the reason they're still unpaid at this time. So, this list of the paid, these are all the ones we have paid already. Yes. And then these just on the back.

So unpaid is just just on the bottom. Okay. So we we've spent one minute 1,317,00 plus. I hope we had it all. And we still have about two a little over two million to go. Did you print that? You stuttered on that one. [laughter] You have your your staff is is working to stitch this together very well. Extra time. Yeah. Danny, this uh just one question on American Fence Company. Is that an ongoing since we have fencing up or is that are we still paying for fencing up? Is that us?

I believe that what we're still paying for is is Sunb Belt thoughing that that's on a temporary side. So that's securing that. Well, that's on the dump side. How about the downtown where we have rod iron or we're paying for that too then? Yes. Okay. We're trying to reduce that as fast as we can but it's important. Okay. Wow.

Yeah. And Miss Mr. Mr. Mayor, members, council, uh this is just a small sample of the the documentation and the and the the financial um calculations and and keeping all this straight, tracking it, getting at some point auditors come in and look at this and and we'll be ready to go. Uh so we we work with the team. Um but but kudos to both Danny for for keeping this all organized and for Travis who's been pumping out these these contracts. The work has been done. He's got to do a contract. She's got to get it all together for Danny so she can check it and and bring it forward and and the both of them. Um, excellent job. We're so lucky to have them both on our team as with all our all our team working this flood recovery.

Excellent job. People just realize the amount of documentation and complexity it takes to to get this disaster that our staff has learned from. It's amazing. We commend you all. Yeah, they you know the they're the f the state and the federal government have strict guidelines. They want to make sure that everything there's no fraud or abuse and uh and so they've had these rules put in place that that we have to comply with and and we will comply. Okay. Any other questions? No. Mr. Mayor documentation makes us look good. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to go ahead and make a motion to ratify contract number CS 2026-0085 as stated. Sir

second motion second for approval of action item 7E. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor say I. Post nay. Motion pass. Thank you Danny. Thank you Travis. Thank you Travis. Thank you Danny. Thank you. Item eight is late agenda item. Do we don't have any? We we have none. M second call to the public. Do we have anybody online or Let me check real quick. I come to text Mr. Okay.

Um, hello. My name is Alexandra White. I would like to suggest that a work around in regard to the use permits requiring state licensing be considered. I have stated my reasoning to the zoning committee as well. I would like consideration to allow city use permits without daycare dees licensing involved. I would also like to address the within 600 foot rule. As my neighbor and I are the only ones that this current note applies to, I propose a survey from neighbors with signatures to allow use of our cult for one daycare and one preschool.

So, Mr. Mayor, members council, um I think PNZ is going is going for final is has not has not approved it finally yet. No one February 4th and then February 4th will be P&Z and then it'll come I think on the 24th of February. The 20th 4th of February to um council. Okay. So uh and and what the situation is is two there's neighboring daycare centers and that pre-existing. So I I don't want to like say it's a call to the public but we will have a chance to address them directly and and PNZ and council have a chance address them. So there's many options to uh address this topic. Okay.

Is there another one?

Mr. Mayor, I do have one more regarding the daycare. Uh hello, my name is Sylvia Geyser. I would like to discuss the child care ratios that were discussed at one of the meetings that I went to. Also, the amount of children that can come to a [clears throat] home child care throughout the day. I hold a state daycare license and I'm licensed to care for six children seven days a week, 24 hours a day. Therefore, I'm able to provide three shifts in one day as long as I am not over ratio. I am a participant with First Things First and I am rated a five-star program. DEES and First Things First expect me to provide education for these children in my care. As an educator and daycare provider, I'm allotted six for ratio and you all lot five. Also, I would like to discuss the 600 ft rule limiting businesses providing child care or preschool. This will be a disservice to our community and most of all the children. Having a child care close to me allows children to come to my preschool that would not have the opportunity otherwise. All children deserve the right for early childhood education which includes my child care and preschool.

And same again the the process is ongoing and and council will be directly involved. Okay. Future agenda items I mean scheduling of meetings. I'm sorry.

Um nothing nothing we know of out of the ordinary. I thank council for the the two uh Wednesday nights through January, but um starting February be going back to Tuesday nights uh the the 10th and the 26th. Okay. Future agenda items. I I do have one I I get a lot of calls also about our child care in our area and and I am concerned of us limiting um I I and and I know you say it's in the process of planning and zoning. Uh is there any way we can see uh can can we I'd like to have a copy. I don't know if anybody would like to see what the current is, what the proposed is because I would like to study it. Um, I'd also like an update on the Head Start building behind Demarcos. We have a we have a tremendous deficit of childcare in our area. And that's an a building that apparently they have some investors that want to open it up. We just need to see where we're at with it. Uh, so if we could put that on a future agenda item or get some information.

Um, Mr. Mr. Mayor, members of council, I um on the child care, uh I'd be happy to distribute the the documents. So, we need to kind of see where P&Z lands so you know where you pick it back up. Uh and then you have u ultimate it's an agenda item that you can um you know, move forward, modify, you know, ask for more information. uh there'll be uh many opportunities, but let's see if we can get you some initial information to get you up to speed so you can represent the city and and uh know know the issues.

I think that's the biggest uh calls that I get. You know, the child care they're concerned about and I would be too. You know, we don't have childare in our area. We we need to be open to to to options within it. Uh, so and I know I guess they've had public hearings and and and stuff like that, but we had participation with that.

We've had five separate public hearings or or it's been discussed at this point five times um with PNZ in in we had that we had a uh I think last week we had a educational information session. Uh we had three people um attend um uh and and this did not come up at least directly like it has now. But that does mean these these cases we are we know about these cases and um uh are aware that that there's going to be there, you know, and I I can't speak any more to it because I don't know what the options are. I don't want to uh I [clears throat] don't know enough to tell you where we at and what's going on other than we're aware of of these concerns and working through the process. Any other people?

Motion to go into executive session. Motion made second. Motion second to go into e session. All those in favor say I. I. And sorry, just so you know, we we did put a a possible action item. Uh but we will not the the way this is is going to go in e session. There is no scenario where we will come back out with action. Okay. So once we exit e session, we'll come out and adjourn. Okay. All those in favor say I.