Public Safety Committee - Regular Meeting

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and your testimony is a matter of public record. This is an official proceeding. Any false statement you make may be referred by this board for prosecution for perjury or for false swearing. While these proceedings are less formal than a court of law, the board will consider relevant, reliable evidence and will determine the credibility and weight to be given that evidence. Please do not interrupt while others are speaking. I will ensure that all parties with relevant, relevant, relevant information have an opportunity to be heard. You may not have the opportunity to respond to what someone is saying as they are saying it. Make a note in your head as soon as they're finished speaking, then make the comment that you need to make. If at any time things get out of hand, out of control, I will cease all communication until order is restored. After hearing from both the county and from the appellant, the board will determine whether to uphold the citation and any associated fines. The board also has the discretion, based on the evidence, to adjust the fine or to conditionally discharge it. Each case is decided on its own facts and merit, and prior outcomes do not control the result in any other case. The board, again, cannot and will not provide legal advice to any party. When your case is finished, please wait for a staff member to bring a copy of today's order. If you're appearing virtually, a copy will be mailed to your address of record with the Jefferson County Prop Evaluation Administration. With that, Mr. Abrams, can we hear any pre-conference cases?

ENF-PMNT-25-019520-4, 4600 Bardstown Road. Conditionally discharged. ENF-PM&T-25-021424-3 1611 Story Avenue. Conditionally discharged. ENF-PM&T-26-0117471 2500 Lindsay Avenue. Conditionally discharged. Those three had liens. We request that those liens be released.

Okay, then let's go ahead and I'll approve that and those liens can be released. Continue.

ENF-PMNT-26-007900-2 601 Inverness Avenue, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-26-010029-3 5407 Tracy Way, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-25-016481-10. 6702 Southside Drive, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-26-010849-2. 434 South Hyde Avenue, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-25-023124-6. 4504 Rose Farm Drive, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-011835-1, 4526 Carrick Lane, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-24-015009-20, 4301 Cloverleaf Drive, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-24-015009-19, 4301 Cloverleaf Drive, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-25-008674-11-5256 Rogers Road, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-008799-2 5401 Valley Station Road, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-22-016028-10, 2129 Cherokee Parkway, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-25-020734-6, 8706 Gary Way, conditionally discharged. 19 PM 4123-PM-31, 614 South 31st Street, conditionally discharged. 18 PM 19903-PM-32, 612 South 31st Street, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-25-022896-9, 4107 Timothy Lane, conditionally discharged. NF dash PMT dash 25 dash 023553 dash 33422 Portland Plaza conditionally discharge. Sorry, I lost my place. ENF-PMNT-25-023553-3, 3422 Portland Plaza, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-25-018299-6, 1131 Delaware Avenue, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-26-005694-3, 3700 Tyen Place. Conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-26-004973-5, 2319 West Burnett Avenue. Conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-26-009448-2, 2212 Osage Avenue. Conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-002581-6, 1707 Bowling Avenue, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-010606-2, 1058 South 26th Street, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-009013-2, 900 Jones Drive, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-010615-2, 2201 West Oak Street, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-009676-3, 3112 Garland Avenue, conditionally discharged. NF-PMNT-26-008661-4, 1727 Gallagher Street, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-26-008672-2, 3124 Pomeroy Drive, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-26-011134-1737, Colorado Avenue, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-25-022161-2, 4917 Stokes Court, conditionally discharged. ENF-PMNT-25-022161-3, 4917 Stokes Court, conditionally discharged. Is that it? Okay.

Hearing no additional input relative to these pre-conference cases, I here uphold these pre-conference orders. Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. Again, my name is Chris Waltland. I'll be hearing cases along with Ms. Schneider and with Ms. Waddell this morning. Please make sure that you have signed in when you came in. That's how we call your case. We will call it by your case number as well as the address, so just please pay attention. If at any time you have to leave, go put money in the meter, take a call, so forth. If you'll let... Officer Close, no. So that way, if we call your case, that way we can recall it and don't put you down as a no-show. The way this will work, we'll call your case. You come up to the podium. You'll be sworn in by Ms. Keene. You'll be under oath. It'll be up to the county, which is Mr. Howard, Mr. Spinlaw, and Ms. Barnett to present your case. Once they've presented your case, or their case, then you will have your time to present your case. After that, if there's no rebuttal, then the hearing officer will make a determination on your case. You'll get a copy of it to take with you. Is there anybody here who's here with either an estate, an LLC, or any kind of a company? Do you have an attorney with you? As long as you have an attorney here, we'll hear your case. If not, and it's your first time, we will pass it for 30 days for you to get an attorney. If it is not, then we can't hear any testimony from you under guidance from the Kentucky Supreme Court. So we'll just have to go ahead and decide your case then. So bear with us. Folks, I'll go ahead and make my usual spiel. I say it every week because it is that important, is I am not here to take your money. I don't get any bonus or anything on how much money I take. I am not here to take your money. What I'm here is to get your compliance. And if I can't get your compliance to get your property within the ordinances and up to par, I'm going to get in your pocket. And once I get in your pocket, I'm going to stay in your pocket until I get your compliance and it comes up to standard. I can take it all year long. We can put liens on that property. We can foreclose on that property. So the one that's going to decide it isn't me, it's going to be you. So if you want me to take your money, by all means, don't do what I say. But as long as you're working with me, you're truthful, you're honest, and you're making an effort, I'll work with you. If you're working on it, I'll give you more time. It's when you sit on your butt and do nothing, when you lie to me, you deceive me, or you just absolutely do nothing is when I'll just keep taking your money. So with that, let's go ahead and call our first case.

ENF-LMPD-26-000.

0032 7500 outer loop. Do we have anybody here on the street racing case? Ma'am.

Bernal Collier? Bernal Collier? Online or in the old jailhouse? Anybody?

We have an agreed judgment that we presented to you all. What we could do is, I don't think there's anything in there that has to be enforced as of today. So give me some, let's just redock it at two weeks out. And by that time, we could probably have it signed and resolved.

The 7th. So we will go ahead and roll that matter to August the 7th, hopefully for an agreement. Right. Okay, so ordered. Next case.

ENF-PMNT-24-014962-12, 815 Market Street. Okay.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Can you please state your name, please?

Tanner Nichols.

And what's your association with the property?

The council for the Glassworks building.

Okay. And who do you have here with you today?

Lee Whalen.

Is he going to be testifying?

Yes.

All right. Can you step to the podium, sir? Please state your name.

Lee Wayland.

Raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

Thank you. Lakin, state your name. Lakin Barnett. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do.

Thanks. On 6-12-2026, the 12th visit to the property, a $600 penalty was placed for... No compliance on interior surfaces originally cited since 11-22-2024. We returned to the property on 6-12-2026 and found no compliance on the interior surfaces and I'll get you photos in just a moment.

Here we have some interior surfaces. This is a ceiling that is in disrepair. Here we have another photo of the same thing. Here we have some more wall surfaces in disrepair. More wall surfaces in disrepair.

That's all the photos we have at this time.

And, Laken, is this just a paint issue? Is this something structural here?

It appears there was a leak, and then the walls just have various holes and items from the leak. This is listed as occupied as well.

Go back to that first photo, the ceiling photo. That one. And this is an occupied structure?

Yes, this is listed as occupied. It looks like a major crack. Yes.

I will submit that these photographs establish the conditions of the citation as they existed at the time of the citation as they still exist, and I'll reserve any questions for the appellant.

Mr. Spindle, do you have any safety concerns with the amount of, I mean, I'm looking at a massive crack in a ceiling, on a concrete ceiling, and this place is occupied. Are we looking at some structural degradation here?

Yeah, I would say most likely we were looking at some sort of structural degradation. I don't believe we've had... We don't have anything listed for structural degradation, but this is definitely something that, if not dealt with, could absolutely turn into something.

No motion to vacate at this time?

No, we do have this listed as a possible hazard. It's been a little ongoing, so we've been monitoring this.

With more time, it could turn into something like that. But at this time, no, we do not have a motion to vacate this property.

All right. Counsel, you got my attention.

Yes. And so the reason they appealed is it's the wrong party. So this dispute, this is a condo, and this dispute is between the unit owner and the HOA. As you all know... all the common space here is owned by the condo association. And then, so there's a dispute and there's an ongoing litigation between the unit owner and the HOA. Lee and his group, they're just a condo unit owner in the building. And so the notice is going to the wrong party. And so that's why the appeal here is here. Now, I also have... the address for the condo association, this is where these notices should be going.

I did note in your appeal that you mentioned that the address was previously the same, but it's under new management. When did that happen?

Lee, when did they start?

60 days ago.

Okay, when was the date of the citation? Okay.

So I think, yeah, we're just asking that this be sent to the HOA because that's who the dispute's with.

You're asking basically to resend the notice? Yes. Okay.

And then to have the proper parties here. One second.

Mr. Weiland, you're not an agent or an officer of the HOA?

I am an officer of the HOA. You are? I am a vice president of the, I don't know my exact title. I think I'm vice president or secretary.

We also have a report about the safety issue from an engineer saying that it's not a safety issue at this point. I mean, I guess if it went uncorrected, it could become, but we have a report.

Right, but it looks like it's still sitting there and it's not being corrected, so that just causes me concern that we know about it, and this has been going on since 2024. We're now in 2026, so this has not been addressed, and it's not getting any better, so... Is this inside of a unit or is this in a common area?

This is inside of an owner's unit.

And, yeah, their dispute is who's responsible for the repair, too, and is it a roof or is it a window? And so that's ongoing litigation to correct it.

We've had two structural engineers look at the structure. It's an 11-inch reinforced concrete slab. That is a surface crack, and the structure for the property is still robust, more than enough to carry residential loads.

I just want to clarify for the record here. You mentioned being a condo owner. Are you the owner of this interior condo or the outside building?

Well, the condo association owns the shell structure. Right. I do not own this unit, and the structure is owned by the association. I represent an owner of other units within the building.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm not trying to. I think if we just send this notice to the HOA, they'll just have to come here and either pay the fine.

We're going to request that this be pushed out 60 days so we can figure out what's going on and who exactly needs to get the notice and what's happening. Thank you.

So in the matter of ENF-PMNT-24-014962-12, the address being 815 Market Street, we are going to put this out to...

They don't need this. That would be September 25th. September 25th. Is that good?

Mr. Abrams, September 25th.

28th is on him.

September 25th? Okay. So we're going to move this to September 25th, and hopefully we can, you know, get you guys out of here and get it to the appropriate party and just take a better look at it.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you all.

Next case.

NF-ABC-26-00701, 3331 Red Roof Inn Place. Red Roof Inn.

I'm going to go ahead and get the officer from ABC sworn in. Can you state your name for the record?

Wesley Barber.

Do you swear from the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you. And sir?

May I? Sorry.

I'm going to have you enter your appearance.

What's your name? My name is James Konkin, C-O-N-K-I-N. I filed the appeal for this, but we're here today to withdraw our appeal.

Withdraw the appeal?

Yes.

Okay.

Anything to add, Mr. Pinlaw?

I don't believe so.

If they're withdrawing the appeal, I don't think we have an issue with that. Yeah, we've closed the business there, and if we reopen, we'll apply for a new license. Okay.

Okay.

There might be two. I know this one came in. The other one was an accident. It's just the one on.

Just the one on.

The BRD is a good one. The ABC is a bad one.

Okay. So the matter of ENF-ABC-26-00701, that one would be dismissed as it was the... Okay, so that would be dismissed in error. In the matter of ENF-BRD-26-00706, Mr. Spindle, what say you?

We have no objection to it being withdrawn.

Okay, motion is withdrawn.

May I ask, on the first one you said, is that under a name of a person?

It was also under Tranco LLC.

That's what I thought. I didn't understand why that was here anyway. Okay.

You're done. Thank you, Councilman. Thank you very much.

Have a good day.

Hang on, Mr. Conkin. We'll give you a piece of paper. Okay, thanks. Next case.

NF dash SWMS dash 26 dash 000158 914 39th Street. 914 39th Street. Corey Robinson.

What time was this case set for? Was it set for 8.30? Yes. And we're now at 9.01?

And I would let the board know that he was a no-show for the last time that this was set. And we have an officer here. I don't want to keep him here all morning for someone who didn't show up for the last hearing. Is it still at 2.50? No, it is $500. Okay. Okay.

So in the matter of ENF-SWMS-26-000158, address being 91439th Street, petitioner is not present at 9.01 a.m., was noticed for 8.30, even asked for this to be redocketed. I did allow it to be redocketed. Fine is $500. I will now uphold that citation, and I will uphold that $500 fine for non-appearance.

We would ask that any attempt to redocket this be denied.

Be denied.

So granted.

Next case.

NF-SHL-25-000320-3 2500 Muhammad Ali Boulevard. You're up.

Good morning, sir.

How you doing today?

Good. Can you please state your name for the record?

Bernardo Good.

Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do.

Thank you.

Is this you or is this Mike? Mike. Can you please state your name for the record?

Mike Wilshire.

Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Yeah, so last information we had was that the still operating as a transitional house without the required permits And we had requested that have an internal inspection To check to see if the house was in fact still being used as transitional housing or not Is that correction yes, and then I think you have a scheduled interior inspection and

I've been dealing with this for a while and she came, I was out of town when they called me, I allowed them to go in. I have a lease with the two gentlemen that stay there, they're on the same lease. And it was, the way the house was set up is, it was set up the way when I bought it, it's a, apartment upstairs, apartment downstairs, but you could come through. It got two doors in the front. One door was sealed off where you could come through the front door, the left door. And once you come through the left door, it was an opening right here. So she was saying that they occupied the whole building. And I was telling her it was upstairs. She said, need to be sealed off. And I have the picture showing that we sealed it off, put a wall up. So it's a separate entrance for, uh, upstairs and downstairs both of them on the same lease uh so uh i'm trying to figure out what more would y'all like me to do to rectify the situation Because the problem was the downstairs that's empty and the electricity is off. Nobody's down there right now. And I was telling her it's not occupied. She said since that doorway was open right there that they could get the electricity turned on and they put people down there. But I had that sealed off. The electricity is still off downstairs. I haven't leased it out to anyone yet. And I got the lease. I emailed that to... Mr. Devin Abrams, that was Ms. Sylvia Zoning emailed a copy of the lease for the two gentlemen that are staying upstairs. She emailed that to him yesterday evening because I was trying to get... get in touch with Ms. Foree, but she no longer works here, I think. I don't know because I tried to get in contact with her because I wanted to do it virtual because I had to go out of town, so I had to cancel that meeting to make sure that I was here. I've done that three times. This is my third time here.

With that separation, does that satisfy the requirements here?

The inspector still feels that the house is possible being used as transitional housing. And again, an interior inspection to confirm that that is the case is what's been requested.

All right, so I think, do we need another interior inspection? Is that what we're saying?

It appears so.

Okay, then I think we would ask to push this out for 30 days to get the inspector back in there to make sure that everything is now up to par.

Okay, I'm good with that. We'll go out 30 days. We'll give you another 30 days to get that inspection set up. so that we can verify that everything has been done and they're satisfied that it is two separate units and not just one. So we're going to give you another 30 days. What's our 30-day date?

We just need to get somebody out there to confirm that everything's good now.

What are we confirming?

Your intent is to use this house as a duplex or as a single-family dwelling?

Duplex. There's an apartment upstairs and there's an apartment downstairs.

Right. There's two separate units. I think you indicated that the property was open. So are there two separate units or one unit? Is it one unit?

There's two units. The way the house was set up when I bought it, you got two front doors. When you stepped in, the right door was sealed off.

What I'm asking you is that's what you intend to use it for, is two separate units? Yes.

That's what I've already done. That's what the pictures I just submitted where we sealed off that door.

An interior inspection, then, please, would be needed.

I know.

So we're going to go, you're fine with 30 days?

That is what we would recommend, yes.

So we're going to go out to August 21st. We're going to try to get an inspector in there. Maybe you can get a hold of her sooner. And if she says, yes, everything looks good, then you won't have to come back on the 21st.

I just want to make sure that I'm clear because it's the third time, fourth time that I've been.

So in the case of ENF-SHL-25-000320-3, that is being 2500 Muhammad Ali Boulevard. We're going to take this out for a status on August 21st. So try to get back a hold of your inspector to try to schedule another day so she can get out there and take a look.

And what she needs is to.

Physically see. See that the wall. Physically see that wall, yes. Right, correct, Mike? She needs to physically see the wall?

Yes, please.

All right.

Thank you, sir. He's going to write up your paperwork, and then he'll bring it to you.

He's already got it.

He's got it? Then you're good to go.

Who would I need to speak to? She's on this paper?

Inspector.

Well, I mean, yeah, Alicia Pedrera, I think you've already spoken with her. That's the inspector that we need to schedule the interior inspection with, yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Do I need to come back, or could I do it virtually?

You could do it virtually. Yeah, and if that inspector is able to come and sign off on it and everything, you won't have to come back.

All right. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Good luck, sir.

Have a good day.

NF-PMNT-20-006785-52-2100, Date Street. Oh, that's Ms. Nicholas.

Good morning, Ms. Nicholas.

Good morning. Good morning. Can you please state your name for the record?

My name is Eileen Nicholas. Right, and she is on the deed. Yes.

Ma'am, do you swear from the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing about the truth?

Yes, ma'am. Great, thank you. Lakin's been sworn in. On 5-5-2026, the 52nd visit to the property... A $600 penalty was placed for no compliance on cutting and or cleaning originally cited since 4-28-2026. We returned to the property on 7-22-2026 to check that cleaning and it was still found to be in no compliance and I'll get you photos of what remains in just a moment.

Here we have some growth, overgrowth and debris. More overgrowth, grass, weeds and debris.

More overgrowth, grass, weeds and debris. more overgrowth, grass, weeds, and debris. And I would like to mention that this has been redocketed multiple times with 64 visits.

What was the original citation on this? How long have we been dealing with this property?

This specific violation was cited in April. However, we've had this case open for over six years.

I'll submit these photographs, establish the conditions of the citation as they exist at the time of the citation, and as they still exist, and I'll reserve any questions if they come up.

Go ahead, Ms. Nicholas.

Last week when I came, I showed that the grass has been cut, but we are showing the same pictures. And I have a statement that it was done on Saturday. These pictures were taken two days ago. And I showed those. Pictures last time, so I'll show it again.

So this grew up like this in two days?

This is last time from, I'm showing you from June, June 24.

Okay, these pictures are from July 22.

July 2, and on Saturday, what date was, 19th? I understand we're on today for total compliance.

Yes.

Yeah. It's from here. Yeah. This was June, and then if you go up, they'll show you.

Oh, sorry. Yeah, I didn't mean it that way.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we were there on Wednesday.

Yeah, that was.

Any statement she has from Saturday?

I'm good. I will state that we have had ongoing issues with this property for six years. This is our 64th visit to this property. Yes, we are dealing with cutting and cleaning now, but it's cutting and cleaning that has not been dealt with. we would ask that at least a portion of this fine be upheld.

Those pictures are from the 24th of last month. These were, which was exactly one month ago. So I guess we cut it last month. Nigel is not the owner. You're the only owner of it. Owners are staring repairs too little, too late, ma'am. Today we're on for total compliance. We've, we've redacted this too many times. We're on our what? 52nd visit at least. 64th visit on this. Those pictures were from the 24th of last month, one month ago. You can't just cut it once and think we're done. This has to be maintained. It is not being maintained. It's being neglected. So you're either going to have to get on the ball or you're going to have to sell it.

Yes, that's what this letter is for.

In the matter of ENF-PMAT-20-006785-52, address being 2100 Date Street, I am going to uphold the citation as the conditions did exist and still exist, and I am going to invoke the $600 fine. That is my ruling. And I can guarantee you that probably within a matter of a week or two, somebody will be out there and do a follow-up and we'll start all over again. Okay. And it's going to keep going up and up and up. So it either needs to be sold or it needs to be maintained. You heard my speech this morning that once I get in your pocket, I'm going to stay in your pocket. Well, I'm in your pocket, Ms. Nicholas. So either take care of your property or sell it. Ma'am, that means nothing because the fact we're on today for total compliance. Saying you're going to do something in the future, I'm sorry. Today was the day. And it's not correct. So I'm holding the citation. That's my ruling.

It took me time to get this letter. I've been working since June. Ma'am, again. And I want to sell the property. That's why.

Then sell the property. Yes. But realize it's not improving. So until it is sold, and you better make sure that whoever the new owners are, they know about this, that they're going to be, as soon as they buy that property, they're on radar. They better be doing a lot of work very quickly, or they're going to be in the same boat.

Next case.

Okay. So I need to sell it?

Either maintain it, ma'am, or sell it. Those are your options.

All right.

Thank you. Next case.

ENF-PMNT-23-015764-10, 322 Cecil Avenue.

Didn't have a chance to talk about this before we started.

Morning, Mr. Yates, correct? Yeah, sorry. Okay, can you just, yeah, enter your appearance real quick for me.

Rob Yates on behalf of MTG Investments.

Thank you.

But I understand he's in at least substantial compliance. He did send me photos while we've been sitting here.

Do you need to have the, you all present just so that we know what we're on for? Yeah.

Mr. Gates, just let the county just state what we're on for today and then we can talk.

We are just now seeing that there's a note in this file that it has been marked as complete. So we would just go ahead and ask that this be dismissed.

You want dismissed or conditionally discharged?

I believe we're dismissed, correct?

It's numbered.

We we would ask this be dismissed. We don't have any documentation of the actual citation, so we're going to have to ask that this be dismissed.

OK, in the matter of ENF. PMNT 23015764-10 at 322 Cecil Avenue. We are dismissing this case.

Mr. Yates, I assume you have no objection?

No objection.

Well done, you, sir. Yeah, great job.

I have one more, please.

Oh, okay. Which one?

That is the 3101 Eastwood Fisherville Road.

It's the zoning case. NF-ZON-24-000074-9, 3101 Eastwood, Fisherville.

Mr. Yates, do you have anybody here with you that's going to be offering testimony?

No.

Okay. Then we can go ahead with Mike.

So today was supposed to be an update on the filing of the formal rezoning application for the property. However, that has not occurred yet.

The issue on this, and this is when we have been proactive. We've had multiple meetings. I didn't bring the file. You all I drop a kid off and rush from soccer. We met with somebody else from zoning in May. They told us to go get the building permits, then come in. I'm co-counsel on this. Mr. Darren Wolf's the other attorney. He did apply for the Building permits this week, I showed Mr wheelchair the email we got last night that it was incomplete because Darren didn't put the maps in with it. So we got to resubmit those. Mr wheelchair believes from there, and we'll still need to redo the zoning application, which we've talked and we've even shown him the 1 we previously prepare where the other guys to get the building. Permits well, we're, we're working towards it. This is just 1 that's going to be. A while.

It appears that you need both. Yeah. As well as the rezoning needs to be submitted.

And I will get on. This is my end of it. Darren's the client contact. So the client contact is in the construction business. Thus, I've farmed that end of it off onto him. And he was a little delayed.

We would ask switches out for 30 days just due to the nature of it. We want to make sure that this is still going.

I'm not trying to be rude. I may or may not be able to be here in 30 days. Maybe can we go to that 60 days because I should be good. That's fine with us. I think most people know what's going on with me.

How's that September 25th date look for you?

I'll make it work.

Okay.

Okay, so in the matter of ENF-ZON-24-000074-9, address being 3101 Eastwood, Fisherville, we're going to pass this for status to the September 25th date with Mr. Yates.

Thank you all. Have a good weekend.

Thank you. Godspeed.

NF-ZON-26-000415-35900, Pendleton Road.

Good morning, ma'am. Good morning.

Can you please state your name for the record?

Wendy Johnson.

Raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Go ahead and make it.

It should be the last one on the docket there, Mike. Yes, sir.

$5,900 penalty. Okay. I thought there was some. So, at any rate, you have appealed the citations for the non-permitted use on the property violation. There are numerous parking violations. There's a boat and RV, and I think there's also the tank that was going to be used for a cooking oil recycling business that was proposed for the property. Okay. And as the last inspection, those are still on the property, the tank, as well as the vehicles, the boat and the RV.

Okay. I just want to respectfully ask that we talk about citation three or the case number three, because I've gotten several different questions. That's what's on the docket violations and it's extremely difficult for me to keep up with everything that's going on a lot of the violations that have been submitted, I haven't even received. So my concern right now is I just ask that. The board speak to the boat that they're referring to run for how it was measured. We're here for 3. there's a picture of the boat if are you asking about are you saying there's not a boat on the property is that what you're referring to currently yes there is the boat itself it is not mine it is just being stored there for a friend and it is go on okay no no i need to know you know how it's how metro alleges that the boat exceeds 25 feet first of all No pictures.

And the thing that is, they have to be parked behind the front facade of the house.

On a hard and durable surface.

Yeah, so again, two medium vehicles will be permitted on the property due to the acres of the property. However, they have to be parked on a hard and durable surface, and they have to be behind the facades of the home.

Correct.

Right. And they were parked in the yard, yeah.

But we're talking about the boat right now.

Okay.

Mike. What she's saying is Metro's alleged.

Sir, I have not sworn you in, so if you're going to testify, I need to do that. Would you like to speak?

Sure.

Then please state your name.

Bradley Tandy.

Raise your right hand. Do you swear by the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

All right, thank you. One second. Hey, Mike. Mike. It's okay. I know there's a lot going on. The citation includes the boat, the camper, the trailers, correct? This citation that we're on for. Right.

And the camper, as I recall, is a dual rear axle, so it's not permitted on the property.

Can you just run through what the violations are currently so that we can clear that up real quick?

Well, what started with this was non-permitted use of the property. They had an RV storage business occurring on the property is what led to the initial complaint. And then when inspected, we found numerous vehicles, numerous recreational vehicles parked on the property. And again, the non-permitted use of a RV storage business on the property.

So there's a parking violation. And for this third citation, is that still for the non-permitted use?

Is this the parking violations?

The operation of a recreational vehicle park is prohibited here. So that was on the third. As well as parking in the grass dirt is prohibited. And it lists the numerous vehicles parked on the property and citation that was issued.

So I'm understanding correctly and we've you've mentioned the two vehicle rule. It appears that there are multiple vehicles as well as a boat and an RV and that would exceed the vehicle rule because that is the boat in the RV would count as well. Yes.

Does that make sense? None of it's making sense.

So essentially, there is a requirement on the residential zoning that you can only store so many medium-sized vehicles, and there are too many there. So you can only have up to two, and the two that you are allowed to have do have to be parked on a hard, durable surface, and they have to be behind the front of the house completely.

It states that it has to be 80 feet from Pendleton Road, 45 feet from Lyons Avenue. Yes. Right. And right now, we're going over things that are on the first part of the citation, and they're saying that it's allowed 80 feet from Pendleton Road and 45 feet from Lyons. I have a video where these campers, and when I say campers, I mean RVs, okay? I'm not saying like people camping. Right. They're 270 feet from Pendleton Road. I'm 60 feet.

I'm understanding the location that you're describing.

They have a hard, durable surface under them.

There are still too many of them is the issue. So you can have two vehicles.

Can I finish? Can I finish? Go ahead. So we have been in compliance with that. And right before we got our citation, we had purchased 10 tons of gravel to put down. We were cleaning out the barn to put a trailer in there that we were getting citations, or not citations, but violations on. We have since got those in there. From what we understand right now, we're in compliance with the vehicles.

Do you have photographs of the property without all the vehicles on there? Without all the vehicles on it? Meaning with the proper number of vehicles on it?

Can I get my phone?

Yeah, that's fine. See, we were only prepared for the boat.

If it's a dual rear exit, the RV is not permitted on the property for dual rear exit, but it still has to be parked on the renewable surface behind the front facade of the house. Parking between the street and the front of the house is prohibited for medium vehicles.

Okay. But then I think the other issue is that they have more than what's allotted, one of which is not even allowed, which is letting them confer.

But they said they put those in a barn.

Yeah, they store them now. Storage is storage.

They're still on the property.

They're still not allowed. Storage is storage. It doesn't matter. It's on the property. Yeah. I'm not sure I'm understanding correctly. They have too many vehicles on the property. Too many as a person. It's just immediately there.

You can have either one or two, depending upon the lot size. 20,000 square feet or less, you can have one medium vehicle. More than 20,000, you can have two.

They have two cars as well as RVs.

And so that is one issue that we're looking.

Do they still count once they put them in?

We don't care if they're enclosed.

It does not count anymore. Like if it's fully... If you can visibly see it, it counts. Can I see it?

Thank you.

All right, having reviewed these photographs, can I once again have you all explain what is still not in compliance about this property?

This photo that was taken on the 21st shows a boat parked between the street and the facade of the home.

Violation. Excuse me, what date was that? I'm sorry.

The 21st, which would have been, what was the 21st? Was that Wednesday, Tuesday?

Tuesday. Yeah, but we're on for the ZON 26-000415-3937193429. That's stating the violations on 6-11.

Right, and this, so what he's talking about with the photographs that are on Tuesday is to verify the violation is still occurring. That's why he is saying that.

He was just mentioning the date that our photos were taken.

That is the date the photos were taken, not the date of your mileage.

We have since moved. We're trying to move everything and get in compliance. We're doing everything we can.

I think the issue is that just moving them around does not bring compliance.

Our issue is that there is no compliance dates stated on these violations.

Can I tell you what we're going to do? We're going to do 65.

All right, and then what we're going to do, we would recommend to give them 60 days to try to get into compliance here. That way you've got a date. It'll be 60 days from today. That's what we would recommend.

We would like to move and have this dismissed for the no compliance dates not being on here. That's an official document, right? And it has to be.

There is no requirement that there is a particular date to list for you all to get it into compliance. So you don't have to state a date?

Or at a certain time, you just guess when y'all are coming?

No, sir, because the violation occurs when it occurs. I mean, when they cited the citation, that is a violation. There isn't a requirement that there be a certain amount of time to fix it.

So as soon as you all pull up, you hand out a citation? They could. No, that's what's happening.

If you're in violation of what the land development code requires, then yes, a citation can be issued. They can cite immediately.

And if that's what they did here, they're well within their rights to do so. Okay. But we're going to give you 60 days to try to get this into compliance. Okay.

And you're going to give us 60 days to... We want status or you want total compliance in 60 days? We're going to ask for total compliance. Total compliance?

Okay. With just the zoning, correct? Correct.

We're only on for this.

That is the issue that we're on for today.

Yes, that's the issue we're on for today.

I understand. I know there's been a lot of stuff thrown around, but yes, you're to be very clear.

We have done nothing but comply and everything that we're doing. Right.

And we appreciate you trying to work with us. So we're going to try to work with you as well. So we're going to give you 60 days. Okay. Okay.

In the case of ENF-ZON-26-000415-3, address being 5900 Pendleton Road, we're going to take this particular citation, we're going to take it out to September 25th for total compliance. If you all happen to get everything, if you feel that it's cleaned up and back in compliance, and if you want to get a hold of your inspector, have them come in, and if they're fine and bless off on it, then you don't have to come back down for this. Yeah.

be taken care of.

And you got your inspector's name and number? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Thank you.

NF-LEAD-25-000660-5 442 38th Street.

Good morning, sir. Hi, good morning.

Good morning.

Can you please state your name for the record?

Ron Taylor.

Raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

All right, thank you. On 1-21-2026, the fifth case, a $500 penalty was placed for not receiving the required lead risk assessment. This has been redocketed twice already, as there was a previous no-show. We still have not received the assessment after the fifth inspection.

Okay. The lady gave me a thing to tell me who to get in contact with. And I've gotten in contact with her. On the paper she gave me, it said it was $950. When I called her, they said it was $1,300. And I said, well, I couldn't get your money all the same. So I wrote them two checks. I wrote one, July the 6th, he gave us 650. And I wrote another one, July the 24th, he gave us 650, $1,300. Okay, they have never got back with the people down there and never got back to me. They took the money, the lady up the apartment, I showed her the checks. He said, okay, it's okay. That's when I was just scared of me like a week, a month ago or so. She said, okay, everything's okay. Then I got another thing that said, come back to court again. And so that's where I'm at now. The money has been paid. They didn't have to show up.

Are you saying that you had paid a company to come do the assessment and they never did it?

Never did, yeah.

Do you have any document from the, like, do you have the company's name or information or anything?

Yes, I do. Okay, hold on.

I got a lot of junk here. Metric Environmental.

You need to see it or what? Did you get any paperwork from them at all?

I didn't get nothing with them. It was kind of hard. The people at the office gave me that number back in March. I've been calling them ever since. It took me a long time to get in touch with them.

And then when I got in touch with him.

How much time do you want?

We can confirm that that company is one that does the lead assessments with Metro. We would suggest that we push this out for 30 days to either allow him to figure out what happened and why they haven't done the assessment or what's going on there. Or schedule a new assessment.

Okay.

I don't doubt that. We've heard that quite a few times. So in the matter of ENF-LEAD-25-000660-5, the address being 442 38th Street, we are going to pass this out to August the 28th. And we're going to do that for a status just to see where we're at at that time. Hopefully by that time they can come out and do your assessment. Once you get your paperwork, make sure you forward it to the health department. This has been going on since March.

The people that you call, these people, they don't answer the phone. When I got him that time, I called him about three months. I got him that time. They called me. The lady took the message and told me how much money they sent him. So I sent him the money. And after that, I thought it was all over. I thought they were going to do the inspection. These people ain't easy to find. They do big buildings. They don't do little small buildings.

Okay, well, we'll do a 30-day continuance. Essentially, in the next 30 days when you come back, we just need to either see that you have something from them saying, hey, they're going to do it, or hey, this is what's going on with your money, or just something showing that you're going to try to look into another company possibly, an act of good faith.

Unfortunately, the money thing is between you and that company. We can't do anything about that contract.

Well, they don't answer the phone. These people don't answer. None of the people that gave me a list of people to call. And you call all these people. All these people take a while to get in contact with all of them. What they're doing is grabbing people's money and running. And they're all opposing it. And they gave me one thing saying it would be $950 on the paper. And then when I got it, it cost $1,300. It's like a scam to me. Yeah. And so I think y'all are helping them. You're telling me to find somebody else.

I kind of resent that remark. I mean, well, really, I don't work for them. I don't even know who they are. So don't insinuate that I'm some kind of criminal organization here. Well, I'm upholding the ordinances. Don't interrupt me. I'm upholding the ordinances of this county. I'm following what has been dictated as far as for the property and for health and for safety. So it's on you as the property owner. So I would go there and knock on their door and say, look, they're looking at taking money away from me and I've paid you fools. I need something in writing. Are you going to do the job or not? If you can't get anything from there, you go right over to the Hall of Justice and you go ahead and file a complaint. Whether you file it in criminal division for fraud or you go upstairs to small claims and file a small claim suit.

Do I go to file a complaint now or...

When? Just about the day? I would try to work with them. They've got your money. I would try to work with them and say, look, I'm on the hot seat because you're all not moving since March. You've taken my money. I don't have an inspection. So you might have to go knock on their door to find out why they took your money and didn't do the inspection. They don't answer the phone. I said knock on their door, not give them a call. It looks like they're on Taylorsville Road. You got an address for them.

All right. Okay, well, still, okay, I'm not going to do it then.

Say, look, you know, just say, are you going to be able to get me on the schedule? Can you give me a piece of paper showing where you've taken my money and you're going to come out and do this?

The system sent me to those people. They're the ones recommending people.

The list that Metro has is literally every company in the area that does those. We can't attest to the companies. It's just a list we gathered of all the companies that offer those services.

What was the name of the one that you mentioned earlier?

We have a lot of good luck out of micro analytics.

No, I was just saying, what was that one specifically? Metric environment. Okay, thanks. I just wanted to write it down.

Yeah.

Okay, we'll see you back on the 28th.

Okay.

Good luck.

You too.

ENF-PMNT-26-004533-6 2820 Kentucky Street. Oh, okay.

Good morning, ma'am. Good morning. Can you please state your name for the record?

Nicoya Mosley.

Raise your right hand for me. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

I do.

All right.

It's been sworn. On 5-26-2026, the sixth visit, a $500 penalty was placed for no compliance for interior floor, originally cited 3-24-2026. No compliance for exterior surfaces on the property originally cited 3-24-2026. No compliance for a window originally cited 4-27-2026. We returned to the property on 7-22-2026 and found no compliance for the interior floor. No compliance for the exterior surfaces. No compliance for the window and I will get you photos of what does remain in just a moment. Here we have the window that does not open or stay open on its own. Here's another photo of the window. And that was done on July 22nd? Yeah, these photographs are from July 22nd, which was Wednesday, I believe.

Okay, just one moment.

This one is showing a crack across the top glass there. This is the flooring.

That's a new one. That window, that picture she just showed, that was never even cited. Whatever window that is, that window has never been brought to my attention.

Windows itself are cited, and it would include every single window on the whole property.

Okay. I'll walk through with the inspector.

Let her finish running through the list. Give us a second. Then you'll have a chance.

Here's a photo of the interior floor and dish repair. More flooring and dish repair. Flooring and dish repair. More flooring and disrepair. More flooring and disrepair. This is the exterior surfaces for rotted wood. More exterior surfaces for exposed and rotted wood and chipping peeling paint. More exposed rotted wood. This is a photo taken farther back to show all of that wood. And then that's all the photos we have at this time.

I'll submit that these photographs establish the conditions of the citation as they exist at the time of the citation. As they still exist, I'll reserve any questions for the appellant.

Now it is your turn to speak.

Okay, yes. The window has been repaired. The window was actually repaired on...

I will also note that in Ms. Mosley's appeal that she noted there was an

active eviction case and that there is also a no contact order between you and the tenant because of an assault that took place outside of the courthouse, is that correct?

That's correct. And also at her home, she was actually arrested for assaulting me while I was over there to do repairs on the home. I had the... I had a person who did the window, which the window has been repaired. He ensured me that the render was completely done. But at the time I went every time, because when I sent someone there to do repairs on their own, she has attempted to try to attack them. I guess she's got some mental issues that I didn't, wouldn't aware of either. And, uh, she attacked me. She fought me. I went downtown to take a warrant out on her. And, um, Even the police was there. She tried to attack me, even while the police were there. And they arrested her. She got arrested for it. She was charged with assault four. She was charged with menacing. She was charged with... She had four charges.

There is a no contact order between you and... I just wanted to ask.

Here it is right here. I brought it.

What is the status of that eviction action? Because I could not.

Yes, I'm trying to get her evicted. Section 8 has sent me something telling me that I'm not allowed to evict her until August 31st. Her lease is up August 31st and I can't do anything about it. And I'm not even able to have like I've sent. Because I don't really have to do it. I'm not doing the work. So I thought I could just send the person there. She attacked them.

Right. Ma'am, if I may, I very understand what's going on here with this eviction and all that. And we understand that it's going to be difficult to do any repairs while they're still there. You said that it's going to be until the end of August before you can even try to evict her. So we would go ahead and recommend eviction. This will be pushed out in 90 days, so she's got some time after that eviction can occur to get work on it. We would say to push it out for status, see how things are going after that.

Okay. Thank you. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Okay.

Not to mention she wrote while I was at the police station, she came down to the police station. This just gives you an idea of what I'm dealing with and wrote on my Range Rover, wrote all over it at the police station and tried to attack me in the courthouse. Yes.

This is what I'm dealing with. If we're going to push it out until the 30th and then just for a status, hopefully you are able to get her out.

Once I get her out of the house, I'll be able to repair it. I had a whole list of repairs. I went through all of them every time. I've never had a problem. Yeah, be safe first.

Yeah, safety first. So we'll definitely work with you so long as you're making your strides. Especially with that no contact order.

Yeah, I have that. It's not worth your life. It sounds like it's just going to escalate. So my advice to you would be stay away from it. I have not been back to that house at all. Don't send anybody over there. Don't you go over there. But just wait for it to time out. And then once the end of August is here, then you can do what you have to do. You might want to start putting a packet together for Section 8 to show the court proceedings and stuff. Say, look, this woman has attacked me. She's damaged my property. She is... you know, harassing me, you know, so that way you can show where they don't try to extend her lease again.

Section 8 actually has told me that my lease that I have with her is the only lease that they have in file. And I've even told her that because of the paperwork that Section 8 sent to me telling me that I cannot evict her, I don't. The city and Section 8 have gotten together and they sent inspectors. I don't know if it's the city inspector or if it's Section 8 inspector, but I've told, I've come every time with them letting them know exactly what's going on with the court case.

Okay.

I've been in touch with Bjorn who has, I've sent him. Yes, that's the person I've basically been in touch with. And I don't know if he's with Section 8 or if he's with the city.

So that any inspector that goes over there, they don't go alone or?

Yeah, I can put a note in the PM case, but Section 8 cases are completely, they're not even the same system. And I have zero, we don't have access.

Can we get a message to Bjorn then to?

Okay. Put a note in this case too.

Okay. So in the matter of ENF PMNT 26004533-6 at 2820 Kentucky Street, we are going to move this to October 30th for a status. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

I would, once August gets here and you can file the eviction, I would leave there immediately and go to the sheriff's office and go ahead and schedule your set out date. So that way you can get, get

I actually went trying to do it ahead of time, only to be told that I can't do it. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know. This is my first tenant I've ever had to evict.

Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Stay safe.

Thank you. Thank you.

NF-PMNT-26-003945-3, 729 Compton Street. Yes.

Thank you.

Good morning, sir. Can you please enter your appearance?

Yes. My name is Gregory Smith. I'm counsel for the estate in which this distressed property is part of an estate action. And so I want to address the violation.

Do you have anybody here with you that's going to be offering?

No, I'm counsel for the estate.

I know, but you don't have anybody else here?

No, I can explain the situation.

Okay, well, let's let the county put on their case then.

On 4-22-2026, the third visit to the property, a $400 penalty was placed for no compliance on cutting and or cleaning, originally cited 3-17-2026. No compliance for Z004 for auto repair in residential zone property originally cited since 3-17-2026. No compliance for Z01 non-permitted use of residential originally cited 3-17-2026. We return to the property. on 7 21 20 26 and found no compliance on the cleaning. The zoning codes have previously been found compliant on another inspection. I will get you photos of what does remain for the cleaning. So it appears two of the violations have been corrected. The cleaning is all that remains. Here is a photo of debris being stored outdoors, trash and debris, more trash and debris, and more trash and debris. And that's all we have at this time.

I'll submit these photographs, establish the conditions of the citation as they exist at the time of the citation, as they still exist. I'll reserve any questions for counsel here. Yes, if I may.

Mr. Smith, I'll cut to the chase. You know, you've already hit the ground running. You're handling the estate. Yes, sir. You know, we're just down to the cleaning. Yes, sir. I'm seeing here from the notes that you've got a local company to assist in the cleaning up.

Yeah, this is a distressed property. This lady passed. She lived in one. There was another one that was the subject of a notice of violation. There's a neighbor who wants to buy both of them. We've run title on the property. There was a mortgage. I'm dealing with trying to close this property and sell it to the neighbor who wants to have.

How much time do you need?

Mr. Pogue, Commonwealth Title is working on the title aspect for me. I would think maybe 90 days and I think we can get the property sold. I also have a clean out company that I've got to.

As long as you've got a cleanup company, you know, you're doing the effort. You're going through the motions and all this. I have no problem with bumping it out to that October 30th date.

That would be fine.

And if at some point you all get this title changed and it's sold between then and now, if you just call that inspector and let them know, and then you're done.

Yeah, 90 days out would be October 31. 30th. Thank you. I appreciate it. By the way, a little story. Mr. Conklin, I started practicing in 1981. I haven't seen him in years. And my first trial was against him, and he thumped me. I just wanted to put that on the record. He's a great guy. He's practicing law at 80, and I'm now 70, so I guess we don't, what's that old joke about lawyers never die, they just lose their appeal or something? Anyway, thank you to the commission. I appreciate it.

Hang on, we've got some paperwork for you. In the matter of VNF-PMNT-26-003945-3, the address being 729 Compton Street, we're going to pass this to the October 30th date for his status. Next case.

ENF-ZON-25-000011-8, 4115 Hunsinger Lane. You want it? Go for it.

Good morning, sir. Can you please state your name for the record?

Majdi Abu Dahab.

All right, please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yeah, I've seen that just yet.

Witness has been sworn.

Oh yeah, so the property has been cited for operating an auto repair business from the residential property and it was noted that obviously an auto repair business is not permitted from this property. The last inspection recently showed that there were still vehicles parked in the yard and there were still some auto parts on the property back behind some fencing. And there was old lawnmowers and other debris that were in the backyard.

And we have photographs of this, correct?

Yes.

And they were taken, I believe it was yesterday is when the photographs were taken.

Can we pass those down so they can see them?

And I will submit these photographs, establish the conditions of the citation as they exist at the time of the citation as they still exist, and I will reserve any questions for the appellant.

This was previous.

And July 23rd. This was previous. Oh, much better. Yeah. Improving. Much better, but still. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, it appears from the photographs that there has been some improvement, but there is still quite a bit of cars and car parts. I've got them all here. Okay. Yeah.

Okay, sir, what are we going to do with the rest of these items? Because you have made a great improvement, but there's still stuff that does not belong there. What is your intention to do with those items?

Which items? The items in the front or the end?

Well, the photos from yesterday's inspection show that you still have some.

I can see the pictures, the ones there. I mean, how's he taking the picture? I don't know.

From a neighboring property owner who had granted access because you refused, is my understanding.

It's someone who had gone inside the property and he took that picture, or how is that? From a neighboring property who granted access. The neighbor, he take those pictures from my yard?

The neighbor allowed the inspector to take photos from their property.

Ah, from it, okay. That's, yeah, that's picture behind my property, behind the garage. Like, we have a fence there, and I don't know who it's like.

If a neighboring property owner allows access, we can take photos from a neighboring property. Yes.

Now, you're saying, like, the neighbor, he can take a picture from my property from in the back? Like, how is that?

Again, the neighbor granted access and the inspector took the photos from the neighbor's property. Yes.

Oh, if that picture here, that's a picture, that's the picture is the stuff here. I take, it was a trash and I take all that stuff from my, in a bag. But it's, we have like a few things. We have the cars there. Yeah, you're right. But all that trash there, we keep it to take it out, and I take it out, all that trash. That's been like two or three weeks ago. The photographs were taken yesterday. We have those doors in the back, those behind my garage, and no one can see it. I mean, I have to take it out from there. That's what I'd say.

Right. It still cannot be there. You're not permitted to have all of that back behind there. So we need that to get cleaned up. How much time do you think that you would need to be able to clean all of that up?

It's like two months, three months.

I think we'd be okay to give you a month to get that cleaned up. So we'll recommend to get 30 days to get the trash cleaned up and get this debris finished up.

And all vehicles must be parked on a hard and durable surface, on the driveway. They can't be parked in the yard.

Can I talk, please?

She's my wife. My name is Manar Tlaib. Manar Tlaib.

Raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give us, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Okay, go ahead.

Okay, the front yard, we've been here before. It's like maybe four years, five years, about we're barking in the side. And the judge, he explained to us we cannot bark in the mud or in the grass. So we have, it's like a river bridge. rock or something we put it in the front so it's not going to be a mud and there is no grass in that side so i have some picture for it too and the only thing is like we start working there after it's like the judge he explained to us we cannot bark there and there is no problem to work in there and still we have a fine for that problem it's a reoccurring right no so it has to be gravel and

Yes, gravel pavement, and it has to be on an approved driveway. You can't just gravel your yard and park in your yard. No, it has to be on the driveway.

Okay, and what about the cars, the one in the back?

No, they can't be parked in the yard, no.

No, no, I mean it's like in the back.

Right, any cars on the property have to be on the driveway. Okay. They can't be, even if they're in the backyard, they can't be in the yard.

We can't put down river rock and stick them down. It's like in the back, where's the fence? It's like in the back of the house.

But it has to be parked on a hard durable surface. But it has to be gravel or pavement.

The river rock is not allowed. It's got to either be gravel or pavement.

But I mean, it's like the picture, the one you have, it's right here for the car barking in the back. It's in hardwood, in the hard floor.

Like you're barking in the concrete. Okay, then that one might be fine. That vehicle might be okay.

But it was, we have a car like barking in the grass. I move it. It was something wrong with it. And I fix it. And I tried to do it and register in my name and I can drive it. And that car, it's not there anymore.

If the car is parked on a hard, if it's parked on a hard surface like gravel or concrete, that's fine. It can be there. We still need to get that. That debris needs to get cleaned up, which is why we've asked for 30 days.

30 days.

Yeah, that's fine. That picture, the one we have the trash right there, already I clean it.

Right, yeah, that's been cleaned up, but there's the stuff that looks like on the side of the garage, looks like a car door, a hood, stuff like that. That needs to be cleaned up also.

All right, that's fine.

Right, yeah.

And the doors, I mean the stuff, the one behind the garage, just give me a month.

Yes, absolutely, yes.

And just I want to say something, like if we have many, many tickets, it's coming to me, but I pay all, but the last one right here, it's coming like about...

about something in the front in my house it's not clean but already i clean it and that's what they look like we can't do anything that's not on the appeal currently we're limited to what's on the docket today which was just the citation having to do with the debris we can't talk about that part we can't talk about that all right okay okay are you all on total compliance or status that's up to you all for cleaning i think we'd ask for total compliance total compliance okay okay

All right. In the case of ENF-ZON-25-000011-8, address being 4115 Hunsinger Lane, we're going to take this out to the August 28th date for total compliance. If you do get it all cleaned up prior to this date, call out your inspector. If they bless off on it, then you won't have to come down. All right.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Thank you. And thank you again for all the hard work on getting everything else done. We appreciate that.

Next case.

ENF-PMNT-25-014963-5, 919 32nd Street. 919 32nd. Oh, there she is. Okay.

Good morning, ma'am.

Good morning.

Can you please state your name for the record?

Patricia Lusko.

Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give us, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. All right, thank you.

On June 19, 2026, our fifth visit to the property, a $600 penalty was placed for... No compliance on exterior surfaces originally cited 10 3, 2025. No compliance for rear porch or balcony originally cited since 10 3, 2025. No compliance for roofing and or gutter material originally cited 10 3, 2025. No compliance for accessory structure for retaining walls originally cited 10 3, 2025. We returned to the property on 7 22, 20 26 and found no compliance on the exterior surfaces, total compliance on the porch, no compliance on the roofing materials. And it appears the exterior retaining wall was found compliant on a subsequent inspection. Let me get you photos of what remains. So here we have a missing downspout here is exterior surfaces, um, on the garage and the siding and chipping, peeling paint. There's also a downed gutter in the bottom of this photo, which is part of the X 50 violation that is on today. Uh, here is more exterior surfaces. This is showing the cornice that is failing more exterior surfaces. This is more exterior surfaces, exterior surface, and then this is exterior surface and the missing downspout. as well as the missing gutter, missing downspout, and the roofing has a small bow to the front left corner there. That's all the photos we have at this time. I would also like to note the significant compliance with the repair of the deck. I know that was quite a big job they took on and they did get that completed. That's all we have at this time.

I will note that there has been significant work. However, these photographs do establish the conditions of the citation as they pertain to the roof and as they still exist, and I'll reserve any questions for the appellant.

Definitely appreciate all the work that you've done so far. So what is your plan for the rest of it to finish it up?

We plan to do the rest of it, but right now we're at a standstill because of the fence. So they're telling us we can't do any more work. They're saying that the fence is too high. So I'm in the process of I got to fill out some papers and pay $260 and go to court for them to say the fence can stay the height that it is. So once they said that, because the fence is really not finished, they told us don't do nothing else. So once they said the fence is okay to stay where it's at the height that it is, then we're going to go on and put the gutters, because really it's just the gutters, the aluminum side, and that's the only thing we got left to do, thank the Lord. But then we're going to finish everything else. So that's why we haven't.

So why does the fence hold you up from doing the other work?

Because they said it's supposed to be three feet. It's a little bit over three feet because I got a pit bull. So when I went downtown, the lady gave me papers and stuff to fill out to bring back. And then I got to, I think she said some of my neighbors got to say it's okay for the fence to stay the way it is. So that's what's going on.

I understand the fence issue, but how does the fence stop you from working on the other items?

Well, they told us don't do no more work. So I just figured it was for everything.

Who told you to do no work on the house? On the fence, I understand.

They didn't say it. They just said we had to stop our work. So I just figured it was for the house and everything. That's just me thinking. Maybe I figured wrong.

Do you know whom are you referencing when you say they told you not to do any more work? The people. The inspector?