Economic Development Commission - Regular Meeting

am. Uh, first order of business is approval of the minutes of January 10th. And I actually checked Robert's rules of order. This is for for um both Sadi and Vivian. Even though you have not you were not in attendance, if you read the minutes and you believe that they are accurate, you're able to vote. So that's up to you. I thought that was I never realized that. Yeah, I I remember that. Yeah. So, um, I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes of January, where are we? January, I'm sorry, December 10th, 2025. This is Janu of January 10th, 2026. Excuse me.

So moved. Second. Second. Okay. Any additions, deletions, discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor of approving the minutes of January 10th, 2026 signify by saying I. I. Chair votes I. Okay, those are approved. Thank you very much. Any old business, Linda or John? Anyone there? No. I have one question. Any old business? Yes. Yes,

I have one question. I I mean there's a lingering case that we have been trying to you know get through that is the Aldi's project you know what is going on there you know I have no idea yes actually there is an update um and I will get to it in uh I guess I guess that could be old business sure I'll tell you I'll talk to you what I mean yeah it's an old dragging business

I received an um a text message yesterday uh inviting me to a as John said a PR meeting um to discuss Aldi's and uh it's going to be held at uh 3:30 park. It's tomorrow from 6:00 to 7:30. I don't think you have to register. Um I'll try to share that with everybody if people have not received it. But it's very interesting. Um, from what I can gather, from what they said, they've gotten they understand very very much that there's a lot of neighborhood opposition obviously. And so what they're um emphasizing in the invitation to this meeting is that it's going to be a neighborhood friendly daytime um intensive uh small uh group meeting. It's going to be like a a small uh gathering place for people. They're talking about Aldi's Chipotle and um what's what it's something dog

rebel dog coffee.

Rebel dog coffee. Thank you Denise. And and just one side note on Chipotles. There was an article about Chipotles that was very interesting. They're talking about how restaurants are really um struggling with raising prices. And Chipoti has basically said, if I got it right, that they are going to raise prices because they consider their clientele to be a more affluent clientele, which I thought was really interesting in relationship to what Aldi is proposing to put into this little shopping plaza. So, um, I will share this with everyone if I can. And, um, I strongly suggest if you're interested, you come to the meeting. As I said, it's 6:00 to 7:30. I'm just I'm very interested to see the way they uh they kind of spin this to see if they've gotten any, you know, any um more positive response. And I'd love to hear from people right now if anyone has any thoughts about this. Sadique, did you have any thoughts about what they should?

I mean, I I am I'm totally in favor of them coming in and I'm actually waiting. That's why I raised the question. That's our old business, dragging business. And where is it standing now? So, it's good to hear that it's still alive. I was afraid it's almost dead.

Yeah, I actually had asked John of that, but he and John, am I correct? You have not been contacted. This is something they're doing on their own. Correct. Well, we've been contacted and we we've they've stayed in touch with us and informed us they were doing this and um I think it's a prelude to them uh returning for an application. They're basically waiting for the uh POC to be completed and hoping that the POCD future land use map uh will be more favorable to what they want to do than the existing map does. And do you think it will be or can't you disclose that yet?

Uh I'm not going to commit what the commission's going to do. I think there's probably going to be some discussion. Um the recommendation from staff. Um will be that it be a mixeduse area which would allow this development. Um but I can't speak to whether or not the commission will endorse that until they uh until Bonnie, can you can you send me the uh the information? Maybe I will be I will try. Has any Linda and John, have either of you received that? Because if you have, maybe you're better at sending it to people. I'm not that great with the um with messaging.

We haven't received the formal invitation. We just Okay, I'll see if I can share. Yeah. The location and the time and the you know, that would be good. Well, I can tell you it's at the senior center social services 3:30 park 6 to 7:30 tomorrow night. Tomorrow night I believe if there are more than two members uh you know that are going to be together and gathering it might constitute a special meeting. So I would just what are your thoughts John? Why can't we go just as independent? Uh um I mean I guess as individuals uh but and okay

the count for the for the for the elected offices that that carries. I'm not sure it carries for the appointed um is I thought it was Thursday night not Wednesday night. Oh maybe I have Okay, maybe I had the wrong time. You might be right. It is Thursday night. I'm so sorry. You're absolutely right. Thank you. I don't want to be disappointed there. Yeah, I have it from the Connecticut Scoop, um, which is where they posted it, um, under the Bloomfield page, under the Bloomfield Scoop. It is March 12th at 3:30 Park from 6:00 p.m. to 7:30.

Apologize for the wrong Okay. And uh if you are on Facebook and you search for the Connecticut Scoop, it'll be under theirs and they do show um renderings and um a proposed site plan.

Yeah, it it's I I think it's going to be an interesting meeting. Um I don't know about other people's feeling. I think they have to they still have to address what happens with the farm with Bloom Farm because I think that is still going to be a a major bone of contention with the Prospect ne street neighborhood which I actually understand at this point when you when you see it in the summer it's not bad when you see it in the winter it everything is basically exposed from Prospect over to where they're planning on on building. So that'll be that'll be interesting if that comes up in the meeting at all. Anyone else have any comments or thoughts about this? Thank you.

Okay. I would again encourage you to attend if you have any interest in in hearing other proposals going forward. And thank you for bringing it up. Uh Sadique and Denise, I would just add that there should not be anyone from the TPZ at that meeting. Yeah. They have to take their they that would pre prejudge them and they would then have to recuse themselves at the any time an application comes in. Yeah.

Okay. Um new business. Um I brought this up before and I'm just like to know from the rest of the board if anyone is actually interested in meeting in person on a quarterly basis. I think it might be helpful. Um, I also think it would give us an opportunity to maybe do another field trip and uh take a look at the tip zone that uh we've been charged with working on in the Graanby Street Toby Road area. Any feelings one way or the other? Okay. Dead silence. Um, all right. let me work on that and see if I can come up with something uh a schedule would be on a quarterly basis. And as I said, I think I think what I'd like to do if we can is to actually use it as a chance to take a look at some of the areas that are going through redevelopment in town so that we see it together and I will work on it with staff and get back to everyone. Commission member updates. Bob, do we have anything from the arts commission? You're muted.

My audio back on. Uh no uh no report at all today. Uh nothing going on. We are still uh working on um getting a consensus of our commissioners how we want to move forward. We've been approached by uh a couple of different groups with some ideas. one of them, the Winonberry Historic Society, but have said to them, we will be advisory and not producing any events uh on our calendar for the foreseeable future until we decide what we want to do. So, that's our update.

Okay. Anyone else? Yeah, it's not a new it's not new business again, you know, p pulling the old file, you know, any development on Wintonbury. Yeah, Lynon, John, Denise. Um, there is, but it's not for public disclosure till later today, quite frankly. Okay. It's a little too early for me to ask, but there is there is development, but I cannot not disclose it at this point. I'm sorry. No, that's all right. I I see that Carol Levit also saying I cannot be ahead of the president. Let let him speak.

Yeah. Okay. Bob, I do have a question for you about the arts commission. Um, I know at one point you had talked about um trying to get a a change in I guess it'll be in the zoning that would require a 1% um donation to the arts commission on projects over a certain dollar amount. Is Could you give us a status of that if I've got that right?

Uh yes, that is accurate. uh Bonnie and uh everyone. Uh we still have that as a planned uh proposal. Uh what we uh are anticipating what we'd like to do uh and uh I've submitted uh some background material to well all of our commissioners here and commissioners on the yard commission and and some people on the town council. Uh we want to do a presentation uh on the uh art commission, what we've done, what we've accomplished, what we think our mission is going forward, and we would couple that with the proposal, but obviously it has to be taken to u uh the council uh level. It's not something that can be um dealt with, you know, at the procedural level or or in zoning uh without uh town council adopting it. It's a long process uh to get that um idea together and and submit it for uh for approval and have the council shape it. And uh obviously the council is still pretty new in their in their new year. So uh we're waiting a little bit

if there's any assistance that you need from this commission. um please call on us. Oh, absolutely. Uh this commission will be involved with it uh without question. But we uh we know what it should look like. We have a model of dozens of cities around the country, including uh at last count, I think there were 23 in Connecticut that have some sort of a set aside for the arts. Uh however, so we've got a good model for it. Uh but uh what will involve uh in Bloomfield is still being decided and designed.

Thank you. Any questions? And I I failed to mention at the beginning of the meeting, but I just want to make everyone aware that there was a um an explosion, we don't know the details yet, on Banbury Lane, which is a neighborhood uh west of the high school. And there was a death. We send our condolences to the family. Excuse me. Gman and York, anything that you folks would like to talk to us about? You've been busy. We've been very busy.

Uh, one of the the good things that we are working on right now, um, just to bring you up to speed. I know you've all read the reports and everything and I try to keep them as brief as I do with bullet points for you. Um, but Dave um has been working with um and I'm gonna say their name wrong, Dave. The one on Toby Road. Um, something. You're muted. You're muted, Dave. Pierce Bartram.

Thank you. I always want to swap their names for some reason. So, um Dave's been working with them, turned them over to um DEC. So, they're looking at um some funding through DEC or some support for their expansion. Um we are working on a grant ask for the town center right now through Senator Larson's office. Um it's one of those where they send it around Thursday and they want it 4 days later. So we are working on that right now um to get some support for that. Uh a lot of things going on. We presented an economic development update on what we've been working on last night at the town council. So if anybody wants to see that, they're more than welcome to pull up the meeting and take a look. But we went over, you know, all the various efforts that we've been working on. and Dave and Justin both um worked on that with me last night and presented also. So, and there's a lot of things going on in the background and as soon as we can say what's going on, we will definitely fill you guys in. But

that we appreciate very much having you in the town, especially having you in our meetings. Thank you. Does any questions for either Denise, Dave, or Justin? Okay, moving right along. Um, the PC PLCD update, please. Linda or Justin, you wanted to do that because

Yep. John is on the phone. Uh, we had a meeting last month in February. Um, and we are working on additional uh some comments that were received and making additional uh edits um to that draft and hopefully um present another edited version to the commission um either by the end uh in a couple weeks or uh in April.

So, any thoughts about when this actually will be in place? Um G John uh you're off the discussion on POC. I just uh informed the commission that we had a commission meeting to discuss the edits uh in February and we are working on additional uh changes that we're making to present back to the commission. I'm I'm I mean we're hoping to get this before them as soon as possible. Hopefully, you know, the edited version by April. We are struggling to um

to get the to get it finalized. Um a lot of interruptions um trying to find a block of time to really address it um two things. But it's it's my hope that we will get um some revisions um and uh and the proposed land use map to the commission for their March meeting which means they could um you know either have a special meeting or or begin to act on it in April. My sense is that we'll either be done with it at the April meeting or the May meeting. We have to have a statutory referral to the town council just for if they want to make comments. They don't have any approval uh authority. Uh and there's no need in my opinion for any additional public hearings unless the commission thinks there's been so many changes. Uh but um we're as anxious as anyone to get it out of the way because it's um it's um it's beginning to hold other things up and that's just not not appropriate.

And and this has been delayed. Am I correct, John? This is something that was due a little earlier in this year or

it's well overdone. I mean it was um and you know we had um they they we had issues with the initial consultant. Um then we hired Goldman and York and they did some revisions uh some very positive revisions. We ran that by the we ran that by the commission. They had additional revisions and that's what we're working on now. But to find the block of time because it's mainly being done by staff with with some assistance from GMAN and York um you know it's actually getting it done is is a challenge. Not going to not going to uh put it any other way. Okay. We understand that.

Okay. Thank you. Any questions from the commission? Is there anyone Is there anyone here from the public? I don't have my uh um Yes, there is. Andrew is on and Gail Riley are both on. Andrew. Okay. If there's any if there is any if there are any questions from the public, please raise your hand. We'll try to accommodate you when we can. Thank you. Okay. Um town development update. I

Yeah, I think we sent it out and I don't propose to go through it in detail. I mean, we distributed to everyone. Um the February one, there wasn't too much that went on in February. Um it was a relatively slow month. Um I just had a conversation and I can come back to um to the question regarding um to Dig's question regarding the town center. Um it's it's not good news. Um we did not make the list uh for this um uh this um round of CIF grants. Um and um they'll be acting on it at uh 10 o'clock this morning. Um the list went out uh informally on the agenda yesterday. Uh we had hoped um that uh we would have a more favorable approval. Um and um I can tell you that um that that I think that um in my opinion and I I speak for myself, not for not for the town. I think the town was um held hostage um on this one for actions by a state senator that basically represents Hartford more than he does Bloomfield. I think they were unable to discriminate between uh nonprofits and a municipality that has really strict procurement and ethics requirements. Um I think it uh not surprisingly in this year was a very political decision. If you look at the list despite the fact they say CIF is not political but if you look where the uh representatives particularly the leadership uh of um of the CIF board and the leadership of the legislature uh you'll find I think a very commonality as to where those projects

landed. Um and I think finally I think we were led down the path and I think the state quite frankly was disingenuous in this situation. Um we did the planning grant and um that leads to usually as they asked us to do put an implementation grant in. We did last June. We were not successful in the September decision making. They basically encourages us to reapply. uh with a lower number which we did and then in the final discussions regarding the reapplication which we submitted in April I mean in December um they asked us to um fine-tune it even further uh down to um a certain part of the project which we did and um we still were not included on the list and I think that uh quite frankly that that knowledge was available when they were having the conversation So, I'm as you can tell, I don't think the town was treated very well in this instance. U I'm sure that the members of the board will disagree. And obviously, we have to be a little careful that um and I'm clearly speaking as an individual, not as a town, so that we don't um prejudice future applications if we so choose to make it. Long and short is that we didn't get it. And um we are very we're working aggressively with GMAN and York to pursue other funding alternatives including tiff um including other taxing things and uh some federal opportunities um which may be available.

It's very disappointing news and uh it's kind of sobering. Any idea John? Again this is very hypothetical but we're talking about a time frame. this has been going on, you know, this work has been that you guys have been doing a tremendous amount of work on this. Has the time frame changed because we didn't get the the grant this year and we're looking other places? John, I can speak to that if you'd like. I you know, I just the only thing I would say and that Denise can certainly speak to it is that, you know, control of the property is critical. Yeah.

And at present, we do not have sufficient funding for control of the property. Right. Um so this does move it out. Um one of like I said one of the grants that we are working on is through Senator um Senator sorry Representative Larson's office for some federal funding um which is good. And then there's um other federal funding that may be out there for uh uh congressional um discretionary funding. So, we will be going after that. So,

and and in the meantime, um if there were to be a um an independent uh offered to purchase the shopping center, that is something that has nothing to do with any of this. Correct. No. So, we we were we were Denise said we were just like throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. Are we talking about five years, 10 years, 20 years? two years.

Um the the development plan was always um u probably a four to five year plan out there. Um I just redid it last week when we were trying to work out some of various numbers and and looking what it would do with setbacks and stuff. Um it's doable still within four years, five years. Um it just sets us back some because we've got to go after a lot more funding now. Um you know sources I should say. Yes. Five years from now.

Yeah. And that's always been you have to do the acquisition, you have to do uh the demolition, you have to do the infrastructure. while you're doing the that you have to engage a developer because the existing tenants that are in there. Um there's new spaces that need to be built for them so that they can be moved over and not have that much much business interruption that's done. So I mean this is a a multi multi-million dollar project when you look at it. You know it's not something that's easy. you know, it's um when we had looked at it, there's between 230 and 260 um residential developments. There's 75,000 squaret of retail and there's a new green that's an acre and a half compared to the third of an acre that it is now. And then add a parking garage to that and surface parking and realigning Jerome A. So, it's no easy feat.

Is there any way of phasing in any of it? just to sort of give the feel and the look that something is changing in the downtown area. Um to be honest with you, what we did and what I just described is the first phase until the apartments get built. Yes. Okay. Yeah. It's one leads to another. We appreciate the work. Not too happy with the results, but it is what it is. It's

any comments from the commission? Any questions from the commission? Any questions from the the um public? I I have one question. Um you you referenced the TIFF zone. Have we set up the tiff commission or committee, whatever the designation is yet? And if not, are we planning to at any time in the near future?

We have not. And uh that is an item that we will pursue with the council. Uh they're the ones that make the appointments to the tiff committee. Um I think you know I think uh Justin can attest the entire time he was here they were talking about appointing a tiff committee and for whatever reason um um one can can presume but not. So we're going to go back. I think that we'll have we potentially have a better chance of success. um um as they acknowledge the importance of having the TIFF committee, but that's something to me. Say again. No, go ahead, John.

Um so, yeah, I you know, I don't know exactly when, but we've we've had informal conversations. The mayor is very aware of it and so I I would hope that you know, it may be after the budget. I would think they're going to be consumed with the budget for the next eight weeks, six weeks. Um after that I think we can move on the on the tiff committee. Um obviously there you know each district gets its own committee. So um I would hope that you know they don't just do a tiff committee for one area they would do it for the three tiff areas. Um and a couple other things, you know, the um the hate under Cottage Grove Road, the um rehab re um re redevelopment of the corner of um Cottage Grove Road and Bloomfield Avenue um is undergoing. Uh they have um had conversations with the um with the uh representatives of the council and administration and they've indicated that for that project to go forward they would need um some form of a tax agreement and um they are now um in uh Goldman and York is now undergoing that service at a cost to the developer not to the town. Um and that probably be completed in the next I would think three to four weeks in terms of what that looks like. Um um First Cathedral is um starting its land use process. They have reduced their units in the first phase from 150 to 100. They're only doing two of the three buildings to start. They're going to be three phases. The first phase is um two fourstory buildings, not no longer five, but about 50 affordable units in each. Uh the second phase would be the third residential building and

the daycare center. Um and then the third phase would be um a minor addition to the to the cathedral itself and um some work along Whittenbury Avenue that is yet to be determined. Uh, and that process should start fairly soon. Um, and I think that's taxable, John. Are these taxable properties?

No, they they are not. And they are proposing um a payment in lie of taxes as opposed to a tax agreement. Uh the difference of the tax agreement is usually a declining um reduction in the assessment um over five to seven years. A payment of L taxes commonly known as a pilot is a fixed agreement for usually a minimum of 20 years. Um and that's um usually um they are going to be they are financing this with a combination of federal and state funds and that's not uncommon when the when the federal funds are involved but feds don't want to change they want a very fixed amendment to make the financing work. Uh Bloomfield would have to act that is permitted under the state statutes. uh the Bloomfield would have to adopt an ordinance uh to implement the state statutes and then enter into an agreement um with the uh with the developer. um that process uh has not yet started and uh but we've made it very clear to the developer that they really need to have an understanding of where the community is on the pilot before they move through the land use because they don't get the pilot um they're not going to get to not be able to to do the development. Um and um those are the major ones that are our bell is moving along well. Um and uh there's a lot of medium and small stuff going on. Um the building department is exceedingly busy. Um which is a good thing. And uh I don't know if we told you last night, but we've already exceeded our permit revenue for what was projected for the entire year. So,

John, do you want to fill them in on CMDA

when the MB? Oh, yes. Um we've also um started the process of the town becoming a member of the um Connecticut municipal development authority uh which is a statewide authority which um is basically a replica of um serta which was capital region development authority which has done a lot of activities in Hartford and East Hartford and originally uh basically only was set up for Hartford and East Hartford and the immediately surrounding communities, one of which was Bloomfield, but we never Bloomfield never had any projects done in it. Um the state I think two years ago put it made it a made it a statewide program that um operated as an independent authority uh to cover the other towns in the state. Initially uh in the first year uh the towns that were in serta were not allowed to join CMDA that was changed in the last legislature. So it was effective last July 1. All every town but Hartford and East Hartford could join CMDA on and uh about 40 towns have already gone through the process. It includes uh a resolution adopted by the council uh to formally join which uh was introduced um at the meeting last night and then uh sort of can provide uh technical assistance as well as funding. The funding partic primarily goes to the development side as opposed to the municipality. Uh but um it's another tool in the kit bag to uh to revitalize both the town center and potentially other areas uh in town. Uh and that process ought to be completed in the next um two to three

weeks and and what how long would it take for us to apply for any kind of funding? Well, we then start conversations and you know then it um I mean we can almost apply immediately. Right now they're on a first come first- serve basis. Um and it depends on the project, but obviously would um you know if we if we uh partner with a developer in the town in the town center um you know that's when we would apply.

Yeah. Their focus right now is downtown areas and TOD's and just to be out there um go in and York is a um approved vendor to CRDA so we provide some um when it comes up planning um for them and what is a to please to transit oriented development. Oh okay. Bloomfield would would work into the um the downtown areas that they're focusing on right now. What Groom what Bloomville wanted to do 25 years ago with a Griffin line. Yeah.

And we were and we were told no way, no how. So we were ahead of our time. Yeah. We got a greenway going, right? Yeah.

Something. Um any questions or comments? Well, interesting. Um, I think now we can segue into the development agency and the continued discussion of the Graby Toby Road Tooth District. Um, Denise and I have been working on this. Um, we had been given the charge by um, the town manager that this is something that this was the uh, the one district that really did not have a lot of activity going on. the other two districts are moving forward. That's the Blue Hills Avenue area and the downtown area. And um what we've done is not we've taken an inventory of what is there. We've identified one particular spot 31 Toby Road um which is the big blue building about 40,000 square feet as a possible area to um rebrand the district. We've been discussing I I brought it up to this commission a couple of times uh an entertainment arts uh development maybe combined with small maker spaces. We're still in the um the conceptual plan there as to what would work. I originally had hoped to do something like an artist collective. I'm now starting to to see as I gather more information that there seem to be a lot of danceoriented groups in the area that might be interested in doing some type of a um a public performance. So that's the next thing to kind of work on. But Denise and I felt very strongly that we need to do is to get things started to get people excited about doing something in this district. We need to rebrand it. Um, in that regard, um, we were looking at the two signs, the one on the corner of Graanby and, um, Cottage Grove and the other smaller one on the corner of

Graanby and Toby. And then there's a third little sign that just is anformational sign that I think will be done, Janice, am I right, by the public works hopefully just to say you're coming into Bloomfield. Oh, the one um, Linda, that's the one the slats that were all falling down. Yeah. As you enter from Hartford. Yeah. at least at least right now remove it if anything because

but um in regard to the other two signs um I contacted Artifacts um Artifacts has been in town since 1983 and have done a tremendous amount of work in this town but also nationwide they're very well respected and um their owner Lauren Rosen um is a town resident he's very um civic-minded in a lot of ways um and I' I've known him for a long long time. So, I took it upon myself to have a meeting with him and talk to him about how we would go forward doing something like that. And to that end, I I uh circulated to everybody um and thank you, Rebecca, late yesterday evening. I don't know if you had a chance to look at it or not. Um a a proposal which is uh is kind of interesting. What Lauren has said is that in the past, they've done this with other um projects. uh he's proposing that they would in two phases come up with a concept for branding and come up with actually actual schematics and diagrams of what these two signs would like would look like. The one on the corner of Cottage Grove and the one on the corner of Toby Road. Um and that after that was done, they were ours to take out to bid anywhere. He would have no, you know, right of first refuse or whatever you want to call it. So, I wanted people to take a look at it. Um, the cost is a little bit under $5,000. It would be done in two phases. I know we don't have any money, John, but or Janice, but I figured, you know, what the hell? Maybe we'll start talking about this and I'll take it to council and see how they feel about it. If they really want if if anything is going to happen in the Graanby Street Tip area, we have to get people looking at it in a different way. and and just my jaw boning isn't going to be enough, I don't think. So, um I'm not asking for any action. I would like people to read the proposal. I want to talk to you you, John, and Linda about it afterwards and

see how you suggest I go forward with it. I know that I've been in conversations with um our mayor and he assures me that there's a lot of support for an entertainment arts district being uh created in the Graanby Street area. So, I'm taking that to mean that maybe there's some money around. I may be wrong, but I may be right. Anyone have did anyone have a chance to read the proposal, by the way? No. Okay. If not, please do. And I'd like to put it on the agenda for the next meeting. And as I said, John and Linda will we'll uh we'll talk about how to move forward with this. But it's um you know, if we're going to do anything, if we're going to change the the look of that area, we've got to change the look of the area. And that in the beginning is to rebrand it as something interesting, to rebrand it as something vital. And um you've got a pretty willing participant right now in the 31 Toby Road uh owners, and I'm hoping to u you know to capitalize on that. Any questions? Any comments? Okay. Any public comment? I can't see this public.

There's only one on right now. Oh, okay. All right. Um, any updates? Oh, Sadique, I'm sorry.

No, no, no. I I I was wondering um we used to have town manager um attending our meetings and sometimes it was good input and information that we got from town manager. So I find him missing and I miss that. Is there some good reason or he doesn't want to join or what? to be perfect honest with him. We can certainly uh make a request that he try to attend if he can. Yeah, I don't think I don't think there's anything specific, Sadique. Um I I'm not sure we we are informing him of the of the meetings of late.

Okay. And two, um I can tell you that that his schedule is um exceedingly busy. Yeah. Um and um he has to make priority decisions on on on this, but I you know I'm sure if he one if we inform him and two he has the time that he would that he would um certainly monitor the meeting uh and be available but um that's a conversation I can have with him but uh it's not it's not purposeful. I can tell you that.

Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah. I just I was wondering because it was a good u addition to our commission. You know, we got some information and some questions. So that was helpful. But I understand you know there can be difficulties of scheduling and also his own business that he does is busy. So so that could be an genuine explanation too. Hope hopefully after, as you said, after the budget is done, the PCD is done and after we have something more viable uh in our TIFF district that we have been charged by by the town manager with um uh beginning work on. Hopefully, we'll at the very least I'm I'm hoping that Bob and I would be able to have a meeting with him just to give him an update. Maybe that'll some interest.

Yes. Especially the project that you're doing on rebranding the you know Dolby area has I think he may have some good input in that too. Absolutely agree. Yeah that's good. Thank you. Yeah just just come out. Yeah. Any other questions? Um and I assume we have no updates because we basically were given those. So hearing none I will call for an adjournment. to remind everybody that the next meeting is Tuesday, April 14th at 8:30. Motion to adjurnn. I I I know you muted. Thank you. Second.

Second. Thank you, Bob. All those in favor? I. And for those who celebrate, happy Easter, happy Passover, happy springtime, happy St. Patrick's Day. Be well, and spring is on its way. Thank you. same to you. Bye everyone. Thank you. Thank you.