City Council - Regular Meeting

we will begin our very short workshop but we'll try to talk about all we can talk about. So, uh, first thing we want to, uh, anybody got any issues after reading the minutes from our last meeting? We have two, we have two, uh, public hearings tonight that uh, they're not ch they're not zoning issues, so we can kind of talk about them while we're sitting here. You ask questions. Don't don't say how you yes or no. [clears throat]

But it we can it's a very short explanation and it'll be quite easy. But uh Craig, you want to tell them what what we're doing? Actually, Dave, you want to come over here and tell everybody? These guys been working on this for a while. [laughter and clears throat]

Council, thank you. Uh this uh there's two items on the agenda tonight. The first one just basically um there's several changes to the substandard building code. Uh basically due to increases in future case load, we're looking at moving the uh we're trying to get rid of the building standards commission and move that stuff over to the municipal court of record facilitate ease of case load. Um in the actual changes themselves, we're changing some definitions around such as uh building official and term hot water and the definitions of day and owner. And also um adding some headers to some of the paragraphs so it makes it easier to kind of interpret and as you go through the code process and um adds for example Celsius next to Fahrenheit. So you get the two temperature differences and uh changes some of the authority around from city secretary to the director of finance for like processing of loans and that sort of thing. So these changes are pretty straightforward uh changes and that's pretty much it for that topic. I don't know if you guys have any

questions on why they're doing it. I have a couple um so um back when the building standards uh commission was created, it was created because of a case in Dallas where Dallas destroyed a home and it kind of changed the whole landscape on demolishing properties. Um and I just it's an old conversation I remember that we had to do it this way. [snorts] That was how it was pitched because we were not a court of record. Okay. So So this process doesn't I guess it doesn't have a good question. not going to lessen or increase our liability and less.

So, so what happened to Dallas case was and really if that's what you were told that wasn't quite accurate because it used to be all cities had like a building standards commission and whatever the building standards commission would decide then that's what the city would do. And then people in Dallas suited and said well you didn't go before judge and so this it went up to the state court appeals up and they said yeah it has to go to the judge. So they put in the process of you could appeal the building standards commission to basically the county to the judge. But then the law also it has to a court of record. It has to go of record.

So by us creating a court of record a few years ago we don't need this anymore. We can just go straight to municipal court. And it's probably not that I was misinformed. that I think because that was kind of the backward you know and it's one of those so a lot of cities a lot of cities municipal courts they're municipal judge is not an attorney you don't have to be an attorney but you're not a court of record either to be a court of record so our judge has always been an attorney I don't know why we didn't become a court of record the only difference between it is to be a court of record you have to do a transcript of the trial you either have to have a court reporter or you got to record the proceedings We recorded

and I I assume the reason we're switching is not just because I guess because building standards commission so infrequently we have meetings and get and stuff like that. So this just eliminates all those headaches takes care of it and we can go straight to municipal court with this now. And what happened is we created the municipal court and we really, you know, being short-handed staff and everything, we really hadn't been to the point of being able to start trying to move forward with some of these substandard buildings, but now we are. And so in talking with the attorney, he's like, "Yeah, we need to change these other ordinances before we start."

So we're going to hear these aren't easy cases. So, we're gonna hear the court's going to be much more, but some a few come with some some fuzzy Facebook. Oh, yeah. I'm sure there'll be that. But

there's a few cases that we need to go through the court system this year. It's only a handful of them. So, I wouldn't say it's a large number. It's a few. T typically before you get to court, you're going to notify the property owner, give them a period of time to either demolish the building themselves or bring it up to cover. They have that option. They have to do one [clears throat] or for whatever that period of time is is done. Then you can start moving forward with the combination process. And we have we have a handful of homes that around town that are wide open. People can get in. We try to get the owners to board them up. They don't always cooperate, things like that. So, we're not talking home here. We're talking about some pretty rough buildings.

Yeah, we'll we'll catch you, but anybody else that answer everybody's question the second part of that a little easier? Yeah. Yeah. Building standards commission because they wouldn't be needed anymore legislation would have passed.

Thanks, Dave. That one's easy. I'm sure anybody's got any questions on that one. Just going to eliminate it so we don't need it anymore. Um, we are going to hear a presentation by Mr. Flores tonight on his tax credit funded affordable working family housing development. This will be a information only. You can ask questions if you got questions, but it's not a discussion. there's no action. Um he he already has one that's gonna be starting construction soon here at side of this property. So, uh he's got a presentation for us and so we'll just remember that that's a that's a question but no discussion action. Okay. Um the next thing we need to do is and we can go ahead and handle that here so we don't have to have it in the regular meeting is a date and a time for the tours one and tours two tours two board meetings. We can have those backto back on the same night. So everybody needs to whip out their calendar and see if we can't come to an agreement. It's everybody at this table plus our commission. How quickly do it happens?

Like having a time that we can get whatever action the touris board recommends on on agend. All right. Anybody look two weeks out from now in two weeks. I am free any day next week in the evenings. Times are fine. Actually, say I'll go out on a limb and say aside from our next council meeting, I'm good through the next two weeks. What about So, let's let's try this 27th the Tuesday the 27th. Can everybody do that? Yeah. Can we start early like 5:30? Yeah.

Can everybody make 5:30 so we go knock it out? tomorrow.

Yeah, we can get some. We have tomorrow. We'll get something together. We'll get an agenda together. I don't have a packet. We'll have an agenda. All we got to post is an agenda. It's it's it's real simple. We have [clears throat] got to do an annual report on the finances and then we have an amendment to an agreement that we need to talk about. So good. Okay. Do back to back. Oh, we're going to do back to back. Have one. Close it. Do another one. That 27th 27th 5:30. Uh, is there anything else we should talk about while we're here? [clears throat] All right,

with that we will adjourn until 6:30. All right.

I was I was going to tell him they they must have found out. So, all right. 6:30 we'll call the meeting to order. We do have a quorum and we would like to invite Fry to the podium because our invocation [clears throat] Thank you very much. And we begin this evening in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. And gracious God, you have given us this community and this land as a gift. Help us to remember your generosity and to live with gratitude and responsibility. Bless our city with honest work, good education, and lives shaped by integrity. Keep us from division, pride, and confusion, and lead us instead into the ways of peace. And God of glory, we pray that you would be with this council as they meet tonight. That you would grant them wisdom, humility, and clarity. You would guide their conversations and decisions so that their work may be fair, thoughtful, and beneficial for all who call the city of Robinson home. And Lord Jesus, you knew the dignity of daily work. We pray that you would bless those who labor in our businesses, schools, and service industries. Grant them safety, fairness, and joy in their work. May their ef efforts contribute to the well-being of our community. Merciful Father, in times of abundance, keep our hearts thankful. In times of challenge, help us remain steadfast in hope and trust. And we offer these prayers with gratitude in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen.

Amen. Thanks, sir. [snorts] Pledge of Allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. You may be seated. Roll call. here. Here

the city and council invite citizens to address the council on any matter including items on the agenda except for public hearings that are included. Comments related to public hearing will be heard when the hearing starts. Please limit your comments to three minutes. The council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any action any item not listed on the agenda. When called to speak, state your name and address. If speaking on a specific agenda, state the item before beginning your comments. The only blue card I have, Jimmy, but you don't you don't want that unless you need it, right? Correct,

sir. [snorts] All right. With that, we have a presentation tonight from Henry Flores, Senior with Mad House Development Services regarding a tax credit funded affordable working family housing development in Robinson. We all know him from his previous project. So come on up and tell us about this [snorts] time.

Thank you, mayor, members. I appreciate your time. About this time last year, I appeared before this this body to explain the tax credit program, why I thought it was the the best program for developing housing that exists in government and to propose the development of a community at 510 North uh Robinson to do a senior community named Avanti Legacy Meet Park. In our noble cliche, we call our properties Avanti. If it's Avanti, it's a family deal. It's Avanti Legacy, it's a senior deal. Avanti Marquee is our market product. So again, Avante Legacy Meadow Brook located at that at that location. Uh we we'll be taking the land down in February and hopefully starting construction in early April. So that has been funded. Um I'm here again to to uh present the same subject and ask for you to consider the potential for putting a property right next to it. The whole site is is own multif family that would be complimentary to the existing property would be called Avanti Middbrook. It' be a family property located next to a senior property. Before I give you more descriptions, I would like again to take a few moments to describe the tax crediter program because I do believe it really is the only resource that makes sense in developing housing. You know, as you may recall, I spent a a career in public [clears throat] service. Started off in my hometown Corpus Christi 15 years working for the city of Corpus as a program manager in housing community development then the director of the division. I moved to Austin in 1992 and Richards was elected governor. She created the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs that that administers all federal programs uh dealing with housing and community development 1.6 billion dollars of activities the second largest state agency in government. I served in her administration was reappointed by George by George W. Bush served under under both governors, left Governor Bush, worked for President Clinton, and then when President when Governor Bush became President Bush, I worked for him at that level. So, I've literally worked all programs at all levels. Um, my masters was public administration. It was my

chosen field. I didn't just wander into it. I will tell you frankly that by my end of my career, I didn't think those programs worked except for this tax writer program. I'm a I'm a uh I try to avoid HUD at all costs. I often joke that HUD is duh spelled backwards which it is and and there have been some some comments by the public I think about section 8 and those kind of activities. Those programs are flawed. I will readily admit that. This is not that. You know there are programs that target the poorest or the poor. I think they're necessary. That's not what I want to do for a living. That's not what we're proposing. Our programs target either the elderly or the working families specifically in this community because it varies by community. what's affordable here in the real Grandandy Valley in Dallas, they're all different. But in Mlen County, our target population is a family of four making $53,340 and that's a calculation made by the federal government. It's about $25 an hour. That's people that work for you and work for the county. We have a property in Waco called Alvanti Viking Hills. It's 82 units. It was completed last year. It's 100% occupied and it has um 495 comes unwitness just to give you a sense of the demand there is for affordable housing. You know that the often when we think about affordable housing we think of the projects in Chicago or New Orleans or or things that are falling apart. That is not this program. This is a IRS program. You have the Internal Revenue Service monitoring us as well as the state housing agency. TDHA operates that program on behalf of the IRS. But that is a property that we own in Corpus Christi. It's called Avanti Greenwood. It happens to be 1.6 six miles from my mom and dad's home. They're past now, but close to their where they live before, my sister's house now. Next slide, please. The the program was created in 1986 by Ronald Reagan. Uh it it was his initiative to try to create better housing programs. And the reason it works better than any federal program

that I know of is the money's not coming from the feds. I'm getting tax credits, God willing, I'm getting tax credits and it's set on the banks. So the people who are overseeing my operations is not some federal bureaucrat who never gets fired and never answers the phone. It's a banker whose career is on the line if he makes bad investments. Much better oversight. The the deal we're doing currently is with the Royal Bank of Canada. We anticipate that this deal if if supported and approved by the state would also be with the Royal Bank of Canada. The this year as you as I know as I'm sure you know that President Trump was successful in passing the big beautiful bill. One of the things that he endorsed was a hundred million dollar increase in the in this program for just Texas. $100 million additional money for Texas under that program. One of the few programs that was expanded rather than reduced. Next slide, please. It it the program is again exceptional. The one shortcoming is how competitivity is. In 2025, they had $99 million to allocate. Now, those $99 million and they allocated in $2 million increments. That $99 million is received for 10 years. It's really $990 million. When I received a $2 million allocation to fund the current transaction, I get it for 10 years. It's really $20 million. I take that $20 million. I go to the Royal Bank of Canada and I sell it to them at a discount. They give me $18 million. My total cost might be 22 and now I only borrow $4 million. And so I only borrow four, not to say $4 million is insignificant, but it's insignificant in comparison to $22 million. because I'm only borrowing $4 million. I'm able to have lower rents. No section 8. The families are not subsidized. The capital stack is subsidized. So again, it's it's very competitive program. There were 235 pre-lications. Ultimately 697 applications including 63 that were funded. I received two allocations this year, the one in Robinson, one in Macau. Next slide, please. Just to give you a sense, happy to go go

over this in more detail, but that's that is a summary of 29 pages of rules and those are the scoring criteria that are taken in consideration by the state of Texas by THCA. In order to compete effectively, you basically have to have a perfect score. Last year, for example, I I mentioned I was I was successful in Macallen. There were 11 applications all with perfect scores. So, it's really about tie breakers and other functions. But if you don't if you can't score every point, go out to a different site. Next slide please. God has blessed us. We have been very successful. We we have received 58 transactions total since we started the business almost 30 years ago. Uh in the last 10 years and there's a list of the last 10 years including Abonte Legacy Mettobrook in Robinson. We received 33 allocations. So we average about three a year. Next page that's the remainder of the of the decade. uh a lot of them in the real Grand Randy Valley, but we've done deals in Amarillo and Sugarland, uh San Antonio, etc. Next slide, please. Again, the not only are the exterior properties high quality, so are the interiors. And a lot of this is personal preference. You know, we're a family company. My son and daughters have joined me. This is their legacy. Uh they they will own these properties. They won't have the company now. My half segways into a trust this year. They're the trustees. It'll be all theirs by the end of the year. I'll be an employee. Hopefully it will Barbie. But the affordable housing, that's what it looks like. These are all actual pictures of our properties. Next slide, please. That's called Avante Legacy Santa Palms. It's located in Westico, Texas. Again, when we insert the word legacy, what that means to us is a senior property. So, that's a senior property in West Co, Texas. Next slide, please. Avanti West family property. That one's located in Edinburgh, Texas. Uh again, take a look at the pool. I mean, these are we are the features we put in there are typical of what you see in a market rate property. This is a market rate property that has lower rents because of the capital stack subsidy. Next slide,

please. That's the one of a Greenwood. That's the one that's close to my mom and dad's house. Nobody ever walks into that clubhouse and looks at that that fireplace and thinks that's an affordable house or that swimming pool. And and again, these are families I I've had so many kids around too many times. They never thought they'd live in a place with a swimming pool, you know, because their parents are making $22 an hour and they don't think they have a swimming pool. They do in this situation. Next slide, please. Avanti East is also in Edinburgh. Avanti West are in Edinburgh. Again, built the pool. Now, my oldest daughter, Laura, uh provides resident services and so we work with the residents to be sure that they have financial literacy and credit counseling. We're trying to get the people into home ownership and so we have special programs for that. But her responsibility is to be sure that our families are advancing. Avanti means advance. That's why we call ourselves Avanti because we're trying to help our families advance to economic prosperity. Next slide, please. Avanti Legacy Emerald Point. You know, I mentioned that that we're trying to create two a family property and a senior property to create an intergenerational campus. That way, the working family can live here, their parents can live here. They're not living together. There's some social impact from living together, but they're a one-man walk away because the properties are immediately adjacent. Now, they have their own club houses. They have their own amenities. They have their own resident services. They have their own management companies. Same management company, but different managers, but they're contiguous to each other. And that allows you to watch your watch your help your family age gracefully in place. That's Avanti Legacy. That's the senior one. And again, we put pools even in our senior product. Uh, next slide, please. That's the family Avanti at Emerald Point. Also with a pool, a separate pool. That one particularly is is done in what we call a mission style. Uh because we're down in the real Grandandy Valley. We don't we don't have a standard product. We designed to the neighborhood. We look around, see what our neighbors look like and we try to do it. We have a property called the Bonte Legacy Park View in Colleen that just opened. Uh it's we bought the land from a from a church

that has an ultramodern facility. We ultramodern building because we want to mesh in with our neighbors. Next slide, please. Bulleta, that's actually located in Brownsville, Texas. We tore down an old apartment complex probably from the 60s uh to rebuild that. And that's uh again in Brownsville. Next slide, please. The studios at Think East is in Austin, Texas. It actually was uh submitted for in a in a national design competition, got the silver award. You got second place. Uh so we take a lot of care in how we design our product. We use the same architect for about 20 years. the same engineer for about 20 years. We change contractors depending on the area you're in. We try to find local contractors, but our third parties because because we're a pretty small company. Our third parties, we've used them for many, many years. They have they know what to expect from us. We know what to expect from them. Next slide, please. Again, we're not just building a shel, you know, that that is the grill area. You can't quite see the grill. It's over here on the side. That's the grilling area. All of our fac all of our units have secured. They have gated entrances. They're 100% masonry. They have granite countertops, granite or quartz countertops. They have fitness centers. Uh they're ser the elders always serve on elevators. Uh we have mail package crunchy air systems. We have garages and carports and storage units. Again, it's a market rate property that just happens to have lower rents. Next one, please. The unit amenities. You know, this this is actually and I should give her credit. Mrs. Gonzalez is a woman living in Wesley. I saw the inside of her apartment. was so impressed with it that I asked if I could have her permission to have pictures. So that's actually someone's unit. Uh we do things like 9 foot ceilings. You know, they used to be it was at more cost because they only show they only sold 8 foot sheetrock. So you had to cut a piece at the top. Now they sell 9 foot sheetrock. So the 9 foot sheetrock just gives you higher ceiling and therefore just more spaciousness in the unit. The we included additional insulation between

floors because the the one thing we hear about is like I can hear the guy upstairs. So we add additional insulation on the floors. You know that there but for the grace of God we would live in these programs. You know my brother and my sister are younger. Neither one went to college. They qualify for my program. They could live in my properties. I've got four cousins who live in our properties. Um and again it's a fairly substantial list. We have stainless steel appliances for example. It's wired for highsp speeded internet. We have we the clubhouse has area internet that we provide for free. Uh next slide please. And there is Madhouse on the front row. Laura, my son Henry, my daughter Alyssa. In her tummy is Emma who's born now. Uh and the rest of our colleagues who we also consider family. Uh next slide.

Okay. The uh we have a uh there should be a site. There's a site plan that that includes both the existing property and the new property. The one that was already approved is 93 units. We think this one's going to be about 90 units. The we're staying within code. We don't ask for any waiverss, any adjustments. Uh we're building to the code that we think we can build, I believe, 97 units if based on the current zoning. I think we're going to do about 90 to 93. So within zoning, we don't ask for parking waiverss. We don't ask for anything. Um you know, I spent a career in public service. I got tired people asking me for things. We try not to ask for anything. We try to make it easy to support us. Next slide, please.

You know, we we've heard from people that they're concerned about, you know, the product we're building and who we're serving. Again, I think we've demonstrated the quality of our product and again the consumer. I'm going to speak to you in in a few seconds, but these are the this is a list of the 58 deals I just referenced. And what I want to point out is that we have nine different deals in Corpus Christie. We we got city support from the city council in 1997, 1998, 2005, 2006, 2014, 15, 18, and twice in 2019. Uh San Antonio was six. We got support in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021. People don't support you twice if you don't do if you don't do what what you say you're going to do. We consistently have support uh and again many we have a lot of two deals this year. We anticipate God willing with your support applying in Waco and Robinson. Two deals in Macallen and one in Laro. We anticipate probably getting four of those five. Um the two of Macau should get funded. So in Macau we should be up to eight deals God willing. Um but again we've had a history across Texas. The we don't operate all over Texas. We operate central and south. You know I mentioned earlier that in order to compete effectively you have to have perfect score. So what determines the outcome? The tiebreers. What are the tiebreers? The shortest cumulative distance to three of the following four amenities. Grocery store, library, park, and school. So you map those out and you add them up. You figure out what you got the shortest distance for three of them. And if I'm at 300 feet and you're at 500 feet, I win. Just shortest cumulative distance. Which means when I'm operating in the valley from Brownsville Lo, I got to know where every school and park, every library and every grocery store and I got to figure out this whether it qualifies as a grocery store. Does it have fresh meat? Does it have frozen meat? Frozen vegetables blah blah blah blah. It's it's to to to compete across

Texas would be an extraordinary feat. And so we we stay very focused on what we're serving. We're hoping again to to do more deals in Waco. I think two deals in Robinson probably all you should ever do. Again, again, this is the only zone site for multif family. I know there's been some concerns about us operating in that area. The I would have a comment. It's zone multif family. Someone's going to buy and put apartments there. When you're supporting us, then you know who you're supporting and what we're going to build, what we're going to try to do. I mentioned Avanti Viking Hills. Again, 495 families on that waiting list. 33% of the people who live on that property are are in public service either work for the city of Waco, Waco ISD or Mlelen County. A third of I would imagine that's also going to be compelling to your employees. But we also have families there. We have a single mother of three children who's under the age of 13 who's facing stage four cancer. She's undergoing treatment. She continues to work full-time while caring for her kids. We have a young mother who's a survivor of domestic violence who's rebuilding her life and caring for a two-month old baby and working full-time as an LVN. A 22-y old woman who stepped into into the role of parent after her sister died. She's raising three nieces all under the age of five. And we're helping people who need help. They need your help. Um I was raised by um I'm a second generation American. My grandparents came here uh in the 1920s. We're naturalized as citizens. My parents were born in the river Grandandy Valley and they were migrant workers. Uh my dad worked pretty much all the time so I could have my life from 6:30 to 3:30 as a machinist and 5 to 10 at night as a as a as a electrician. He was always gone. On Saturday he worked a full shift as an electrician. On Sunday he drive to Laro from Corpus Christie because he wanted to be a deacon in the Catholic church and that's where you had to go to Laro. I never saw my dad. I will tell you as a as a child, as a young person, I really resented that. You know, why wasn't he at my baseball games? Blah blah blah.

You know, I realize now that he sacrificed himself for me. I mentioned in our last meeting that thanks to their sacrifice, uh, I was able to maximize my life. You know, my dad, my my dad, my mom weren't the oldest in their families, but they were the first ones to graduate from high school. And they're very proud of that, as am I. So, they were always focused on education. um my mom especially and thanks to her and some good teachers along the way I went to Yale University studied economics and then to Harvard for my masters I went to the candy school at Harvard Yale Harvard things were like George Bush did too so yeah we have secret handshakes and so but the we know that if we can keep somebody in a stable environment at an affordable cost that hopefully those kids can get educated and change their lives too. All I'm doing today is providing information even though I'm happy to answer questions. I hope to come back during next meeting and ask for your support. Again, we're asking for a resolution. We're not asking for any money. Not asking for any waiverss. Not asking for any Well, that's not true. One of the items is is a contribution of local resources. We're asking for $500 and William won't even collect it, but it's a scoring item. So, I need $500. Uh but not per unit, just $500 total. You did that last year as well. But again, you we're proud of what we do. We're proud of the way we operate. I'm proud of my family. If there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

Thank you. Um, [clears throat] I would remind council that this is just presentation, so there's no discussion, but you can ask questions. Remember, this is also not a zoning issue. This property is already zoned multif family. So, we're just like last time hearing what Mr. Flores has and what he is looking to do and then he will come at another meeting and ask for the support. So with that, anybody have any questions? Gentlemen, thank you again for your support of us. What uh how much do you think uh the investment in this? Oh, good question. I should have mentioned that the total cost we estimate to be $21.3 million.

Okay. So, a little bit uh below your Vonte Viking Hills. A little bit. When did it come in? I know you propos we're pricing it as we speak. You know, the our we're about to get to be able to get permits again. We're thinking about closing in April. It's out for bid now. We think our numbers were pretty solid. Uh and it it cost a little bit more because we're talking about 90 versus 93. So it's simply more units. Uh costs have not gone down, but they haven't gone up either. At this point, I'm kind of happy about that because for a while they never seem to stop growing. Uh but we anticipate $41.3 million as our cost. And we we don't taxes. We pay taxes just like everybody else. We believe in being good corporate citizens.

Yeah. So, but now the way they calculate those taxes isn't based on your investment. It's based on the revenue. That's correct. Because I noticed under state law, Avante, uh, Viking Hills, the appraisal district initially set it at what, 3.4 in a value and then once you guys negotiated the taxes, it's currently on the rolls at 2.7 million. It's something that we're probably looking at this one somewhere five. I think that's probably a reason taxable because probably a little bit more because the one in Avante Vag Hills is A2 units. This is going to be a little larger. Okay. Uh but the taxes are calculated based on state law. So that's correct.

Yeah. And so that has you at about $32,000 a door probably in that neighborhood. 30 to I tell you what our estimate is. Our estimate for tax is I'm talking about total value. Oh, total value that should be less because I mean I think you're you're shooting less than that. So it probably below 30 a door as far as your cost, right? Yes. We estimate taxes at $115,000 at a total taxes, not just the city's portion. That's correct. Yes, sir. Okay. What's that? [clears throat]

It will not be a total cost of 30,000 a door. Um the total cost is 213. So it's going to be well Yeah, I'm talking about taxable value though. So because 27 is 32,000 total cost. I thought you meant the total cost. Yeah. No, no, the taxable value. Yeah. I mean doesn't matter to us what you pay for. It's what we're going to taxes and then provide service to how many people you think will occupy that at 90 units. 90 units. 90 people or 90 f Oh, the total families. That be probably because you're talking about family of four. Yes, sir. Correct. Obviously, that's not going to be everybody, but we have a family of four be somewhere just shy 400. Exactly.

Right. Exactly. Probably short of that. Probably what 300 or something. I would say 320 or so. Yes. When was Viking Hills completed? Hills could be open the September of last year. So, probably then Mlennon County doesn't have a full year of full construction because No, they wouldn't have because we dispar because I would say u my 38 years experience and and being on the president review board chair president review board I would be very surprised if that property is going to remain valued at a price that low. Yes, income is one way to factor value but so is cost and sales comparison approach

and so it would really shock me if they're going to keep going. So probably but now didn't it just get uh I mean we these numbers are 2 you know the numbers as of January and the thing was already occupied prior to January so these should be the numbers. Yeah. No we were we were it's not I mean they're not going to lower it after you've already got it established. I would think so. No we were we were fully occupied before. Yeah. So I mean that's should have been what it was based off of. I mean it's the way they do me. Your correction. Um, is there [clears throat] no good? No, let I'm going let you go. Thank you.

Hey, will you tell everyone the address to your Viking Hills in case anyone wants to go by and see? I should have done that already. It's 6501 Sanger Drive. Okay. [clears throat] Really nice looking deal. I applaud you. It did come out very nicely. So, if anyone wants to see what he's done that's already up and going. Anybody else got anything before I ask? I do. Could you could you speak to vetting processes that you use for residents? Um, you did talk about a little about income, but what other processes background?

No, that's again I should have mentioned I was trying to stay as brief as possible. You know, one of the advantages to this program, again, as I see it applied across the country, is that there's so much demand that you can be very, very rigorous in your screening procedures because if that if a family moves in one of those A2 families, if they aren't following the rules, if if they are somehow um impacting the community negatively, I've got 400 families waiting. We don't, you know, a lot of a lot of owners have to worry about occupancy. I don't worry about occupancy. Every property I have is either 100% or somebody just moved out. We haven't quite moved them back in yet in you because we have waiting list at every single property. The So we screen for uh credit and we screen for for criminal history and any issues with credit and issues with criminal history we go to the next person on the list. Same thing again as I mentioned we can be very strict in enforcing our rules because if we have excessive demand if someone's not abiding by the rules that we as we have drawn out then they have to go through the eviction process. It's one of the advantages to the program having that kind of demand. It's also unfortunate, frankly, you know, that we have that there we could we could probably build 10 times more units than we're building now. Still wouldn't be enough. But um again, I'm I'm very grateful to President Trump for having increase the allocation.

How much are these each of these going to rent for? You anticipate the the rents will vary. [laughter] uh the and what's what's the mix of ones, twos, and three? I mean,

one ones and twos is a thing. The uh and our and in order to maximize our score, we have to have we have a have a few units, for example, three units that that target 30% of the area median income and the one-bedroom category, three at at 30%, seven at 50%, and most of them 20 at 60%. That's that $55,000 number. And the rents are $418 for the lowest income, $752 for that middle range, and the highest the rent will be for the onebedroom is $918. So depending on based on the market, we think we're saving families from $300 to $700 per per family. on the two bedrooms under 900 ft. We have six at 30 with rents of 493, 11 uh at 50% or 893 and then 43 units at,093. And again, we think we're saving families somewhere between $250 and $650 of rent. And again, if someone's earning $5,000 a month to save $600 is huge for them. And

you're not going to have any threes, just one? No, sir. Not at this site. Okay. Thank you for that question. I didn't get any blue cards from the audience, but I'll give just a tad little leeway if anyone has a question after they've listened to his presentation that wasn't answered during this presentation. Anybody have a question? Okay,

I got a question. How many of these you built and sold that we've built for ourselves? None. Um, but you know, we've done 58 deals. When I first transitioned from public service, I wasn't doing deals for myself. You had to have $10 million net worth and $5 million net worth and $2 million in cash. And I didn't have that coming out of public service. So, it wasn't until year 12 that I started doing deals for myself. So, all those deals before were for investors. And then Texas is broken down into regions. So when I first started doing deals for myself, I was still work for somebody in Houston, somebody in Dallas, somebody in San doing my deals in corporates. The And then we went from three clients to two clients to one client. We haven't had any clients for eight years now. And everything we develops for ourselves and we keep everything we develop.

When did you start developing for yourself? In 2012. 2012. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Flores. We appreciate [clears throat] you. Um, I will tell the audience that Mr. Flores will be here till the end. and I'm sure he would love to answer any questions you might have if you want to talk to him when it's over. The rest of our meeting will go very quickly. So, um the consent agenda has two items to approve the minutes from January 6th and to mark a date of January 27th at 5:30 p.m. for the tours one and tours 2 board meetings. Can I have a motion? Motion to approve consent agenda item number seven and include regular agenda item number 10.

Second. All in favor? Any opposed? Second. Yes, sir. At 70:01, I will open a public hearing to consider and take possible action on ordinance 2026-001, an ordinance of the city of Robinson, Texas, amending chapter 5 of the building and building regulations, article 5, dangerous buildings in our code of ordinances of the city of Texas of Robinson, Texas, providing a several severability clause and an effective date. Dave, tell us what we're doing quickly.

Um, the first part of this is just code changes basically to help streamline our processes. Um, all we're doing with this change is just uh subbing out building standards commission with municipal court of record on a lot of the code changes. We're adding and changing a few definitions, adding some headers to some of the ex existing paragraphs, and uh changing out applicable city staff as needed in in the actual document. That's it. All right. Thank you. So, we will close the public hearing at 7:02. Any discussion from council?

Motion, please. I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 2026-00001 amending chapter 5 buildings and building regulations as written and stated as part of the regular agenda. All in favor? Any opposed? All right. 703 will open the next public hearing to consider and take possible action on ordinance 20262, an ordinance of the city of Robinson, Texas, removing and deleting chapter 5 building and building regulations. Article five, building standards commission of the code of Ordinances of the city of Robinson, Texas. Dave,

due to the approval just a minute ago of the ordinance changes subbing out the building standards commission with the municipal board of record, the building standards commission is no longer needed. So what this what this uh uh does is basically just delete the whole chapter regarding the building standards commission. Thank you. 703, we'll close the public hearing. Any discussion from council? The motion, please. I make a motion that we consider take possible action ordinance 2026-002, an ordinance of city Robinson, Texas removing and deleting chapter 5, building regulations, article 5. Second.

All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Anyone at the council have anything they would like to bring for future meetings? Told you to be quick. If not, at 7:04 we will adjourn our meeting.