Historic Preservation Board - Regular Meeting

Ms. Bercoria? Here. Mr. Sade? Here. Mr. Sereno? Here. We have quorum.

And we have Ms. Bonaduce and Ms. Headley on the phones.

Yes, I'm here. Sorry, I didn't hear it well.

That's okay.

I'm here too.

Okay. Okay.

Thank you.

On the order of business, I would like to, if we have time, just to take like three minutes to review the tour results, financial results. I brought some stuff at the end. And it shouldn't take very long at all, if we have time to do it. Okay. Anything else? Anybody else want to add anything to the order, to the agenda or the order of business? Okay. Any public comments, general public comments that are not specific to any of the items here? I doubt it. You have a general comment? No. Okay. Oh, the alleys, yes. This is not the appropriate place. Yeah, for the council, it would be a good meeting.

It's crazy. Yeah, I can barely drive through my alley. Yep.

Okay. So item 5A, approval of the meeting minutes, which are here. Do I have a motion to approve the minutes?

I second.

You both second? Somebody needs to make a motion. And then the other one seconds. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Okay, great. All right. Item 6A. Eddie, did you want to kick that one off? Thank you.

Uh-huh. Where do I begin? All right. So, at its January 21st, 2026 and February 18th respective hearings, the Historic Preservation Board tabled the request. The item is, the property is located at 515 Northeast 101 Street. And the scope of work includes exterior renovations and modifications. And the item was tabled where the board had indicated to the applicant that several more recommended revisions should be brought back for their consideration. The applicant has made those revisions, and I'll briefly go over some of those exterior modifications to the existing two-story single-family residence, which include exterior stucco restoration, repair and restore exterior stucco with an in-kind Old English textured finish to match the original facade. The chimney vents and ziggurat design, which includes fully restoring the original chimney flue including but not limited to the 13 receding levels and 30 vent openings to the original historic condition. roof replacement installation of a clay barrel tile roof consistent with the home's historic character the front door the original main entry door shall be preserved and refinished exterior sconces installation of historically compatible light fixtures at the front entry awnings all original awnings will be replaced and maintained in their original locations which include the front entry second floor balcony and garage area The privacy wall shall be preserved and maintained with consistent architectural detailing, the same as goes for the planters, which will be repaired, restored, and preserved. The second story railings shall be restored and preserved with decorative white stucco details. The arch stained glass will be preserved at the first floor arch window area. and the garage conversion shall be brought back at a later point in time and actually that item we may need to revisit it because the concurrently the planning board is undergoing a residential code rewrite and one of the recommendations is to actually remove garage conversions from needing public hearings now we're still in the process of that it's going to the board next week and then we have to if that goes well then we go for the council meetings but it's something that it's forthcoming so it's kind of TBD on that but as of right now the code still requires it so with that staff is recommending approval the applicant is here I know that they've brought several samples for the board to consider and you can have the floor thank you Can you speak into the mic? I'm sorry. Thank you.

So at the last hearing, we spoke about roof tiles. We brought more of a terracotta tile to the last meeting. The board requested a darker brown. So I brought two samples of that for your review. This one is Jacobian, so it's intended to have more of that rustic look to it.

I think this one would be more appropriate.

That's why I was asking you. Yeah. So for this, I mean, usually these type of homes... you, who is the one that knows more about the aesthetic style, what would you think is the more appropriate color tones for the tiles?

Only because it's a historic house. I like this one because it looks like an antique finish. Yeah, yeah, I like it. I mean, it's strictly not Art Deco style.

I know, I know. It's a little weird because it has... It's Mediterranean Revival. Yeah, and it has the...

I mean, either one is okay, but I would say this one is probably better.

In the Mediterranean revival, from what I understand, the tile is more in the reddish. It can be. Yeah. Yeah.

Clay side. Which this one has. So that one will be more appropriate. Yeah. Yeah. It just has some of that kind of antique.

And every tile is kind of a different tone to it.

Right. Right. I noticed that in my house, too, we had different colors on the roof. Yeah. There's variation. Yeah. Yeah, there's variations. Yeah. And some even getting close to like a yellowish red even. Yeah. So I think that would be my recommendation, that one there.

Well, let's finish the whole thing. Yeah.

By the video, can you tell me, please, what exactly is the color?

The first one is coffee. And the more rustic one is Jacobian.

Right. It's got some reddish in it, but also has some antique features to it. If you could put them next to each other, I'll send you a picture so she can see it. They look very good.

They look really good. Hold on. I'm sending you a picture.

I know, but I think the original Mediterranean of centennial houses was red. It's not coffee or rustic.

Yeah, actually, my house in particular had different colors in it, even the original roof. But the one that we're recommending that he brought up is red, but it has kind of an antique finish that will look really nice with it.

Because what happened, more than what you brought last time, what happened last time is that it didn't look... I think it was more manufactured. These ones look a little bit more custom. The other one looked more like any roof tile that you would put in a modern or a new construction. Patricia, just to remind you of that. These two definitely look more custom.

That's great to hear. It's hard to really tell on video, so I kind of defer, obviously, to those who are in person. And Jeffrey, he obviously understands the color scheme. I'm actually in Europe, and there's quite a few variations in terms of the color scheme, so I defer to Jeffrey's point of view on this.

Okay. Thank you, Michelle.

Michelle, I can send you a picture if you want as well.

No, we're not using coffee.

Okay, great. Thank you.

We're not recommending coffee. Patricia says she doesn't agree with the coffee color. So, Patricia, I see you're saying we're not recommending the coffee color. So we're recommending the red color with kind of an antique finish to it.

The next item was the exterior light sconces in the front.

That's more appropriate than the one you brought before. You want to show it to the camera? See if they can see it.

Nice finish.

Yeah, I think it's much more appropriate than the kind of modern one that you brought last time.

These are some of the colors that it comes in.

The awning, if that's your concern, the awning? No, no. Oh. Oh, okay.

To go with whatever he's doing here and looking at the original. Oh, I see. The original ones were black.

Okay.

From what I can see from the picture. Okay. But the shape is more consistent now, definitely.

The next item was in regards to the paint color for the front door that we're restoring in kind. Okay. So I brought samples of that along with the approved, previously approved paint color for the exterior stucco.

I think when it comes to paint colors, there's a state law that prohibits any board from commenting on a single-family home.

Hold on, hold on. But if the house is historic and the house is designated, all these things are important.

State law is pretty clear.

It doesn't matter if the house is. Yes, because Residential homes there. They're not required to be permit for paint color and

It can be harmonious, but paint, you can't.

Look at Todd Leone's house. Paint permits, no. On the chimney tower.

Yeah, but I think that was the situation. Like a little bit of a messy situation?

No, I'm pretty sure that we can't dictate any colors.

Even if the house is historic?

Even if the house is designated historic, yeah. We can dictate other things.

That makes no sense, seriously. I mean, if you change the color of a house.

That's my understanding as well as it relates to the state law. If that's untrue, we need clarification, obviously, from the legal counsel. But our understanding has been told that we have really no say when it comes to color on the exterior due to that state law. And again, as Jeffrey mentioned, Todd's home. I don't think any of us are really in agreement that the blue is historic color, but we really have no say in that, and that is a designated home.

So we can recommend, but we can't dictate. I really like this that you brought up, because it looks a little more like a wood color. And I think the stucco is fine. It looks just like the one that was there. Hold on, hold on.

Most historic districts do regulate exterior color.

Historic district.

OK. Yeah.

The question at the hands of the door was the construction, right? It was it keeping the wood. We're going to change that.

Well, we can recommend something else. I like it, but what would you recommend?

My recommendation, I mean, I do understand that maybe there's a little bit of a hesitation because this is more of a lime green and you want to do a little bit more timeless. Correct. But if we were to, as a recommendation, I guess, to keep the green... I have no comment about the color. I thank you for continuing to keep the construction of the door wood as prescribed That's a beautiful color

So for the record, can you indicate which color you selected, the color palette for the door?

Rosemary is called. Rosemary. Rosemary. That's our recommendation, but obviously you can do.

And we approve the stucco. We do.

We approved before the stucco. That was part of the previous.

Yeah.

Yeah. Again, that one is black, right? Yeah. It's bronze.

It's bronze. It's bronze. It's a dark bronze. You can see it on the edge. I like that.

As a recommendation, I guess, whatever you do with the lamp, do with the. Yeah. There you go. Black or bronze.

So we're going to incorporate the awning over the front door, the second floor terrace. And if the board requires it, we will put it in the back as well where the garage previously was or currently is I should say.

I think this is what we can regulate, right?

I don't even know, but I guess so.

I just noticed a discrepancy, and I want to make sure that it's noted. Your drawing shows that I believe correct. The rendering is a little bit off. Just because it looks like the onion here was mounted over, which in Yeah. I thought it was AI. Yeah. That's exactly what I thought. That was AI. OK. That's what I said today. OK. But just to make sure, and then it doesn't wrap around. It's just like how you have it here. And then this one will be how it is in this historic picture, right? So we'll keep it as the historic picture.

Exactly.

And it looked like you were inclined to do the lines,

But you're going to do black and white there and then keep the red over here in the front? On both. That's fine. Yeah, that was my only issue. Yeah, that would look very technicolor. black and white. There's a house on 4th Street. That's really, 4th Avenue. That's really, really cool.

So black and white.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Okay. Show and tell? Okay.

I saw it in the plan. You're showing it now. I think it's fine. Again, the rendering says one thing. The plan is another one, but I mean, it's the plan. The plan's correct. In this case, for sure, it's the plan that's going to be followed.

Sounds good. I don't have any other questions. Okay, so do we need a motion, Eddie, to approve this? Do I have a motion to approve the updated plans for 515 Northeast 101st Street?

If I may, before approving something, I have a question for Eddie. Yes, go ahead.

Essentially, the way that this works is what they've done is they've revised the technical drawings. So once the board grants this approval, these are the drawings that they would resubmit for their revision within the building permit. And essentially, what gets approved there is what they would need to construct. So that would fall on the building inspector. Yes, sir.

And since, Patricia, you know that the building inspector Yeah. To be honest. We're going to hold your feet to the fire, Jason. Very well. Okay. Right, Patricia? Yeah. And if we have a concern, the good thing and the reason why we were pushing for it to be in the drawing is because once it's in the drawing, that's really what backups. Thanks to our, you know, our suggestions. It's there.

It's clear. And second question, remember, Jeffrey, about what

Oh, yes. So you have the original plans, right? So those technically belong to the village, but they're on loan. They were on loan to Mr. Amos, or I think that was his name. I forget the guy's name. Anyway, and we would continue to approve loaning them out to you. Okay. And we can put that in the minutes that those plans are loaned to you as the owner of that house. But just remember when you sell it that those plans actually belong to the village and we have to formally approve lending them to the other person. I wouldn't recommend bringing them back to the building department. Okay. No.

Why?

Because, well, we'll talk about it later, but basically all the original plans were... They're not keeping the original plans.

How about the library? They're digitizing them. How about the library?

We could ask the library.

Just because, I mean, since these are property of the village, given this is a historic designated home, having those plans is very valuable, not only for the village, but for the city.

We can talk about that later.

It's a long conversation.

Can somebody Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I'll find out about that. For now, we can formally say that they're on loan to you and you have possession of them. And then if we want to change it later, maybe I'll talk to John and see if they want to be a repository for them.

And if you want to keep a copy, you know, we can do some

Yeah, but that's in the future. So right now, we'll leave it with him. Right now. They're at the house. Okay. Just take care of them.

We'll do. They're framed and in great condition. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. All right. Can I have somebody make a motion then to approve the updated plans?

I second.

You second? You want to make a motion? I can't make a motion. I make a motion. Yeah.

I make a motion to approve the plans.

Okay. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Okay. Thank you.

Thanks very much. Just one follow-up question. Now that the plans are approved, resubmit to the building department and then wait for approval on that, and then we can resume.

I'm going to have the chair sign the approval, and then tomorrow at some point we'll scan this. We'll send it to you, and then when you get ready for your revision, you're going to want to include this because this is going to have these signatures.

Perfect. Perfect. Thank you. I appreciate it. One last question regarding the garage conversion. Should we move forward with submitting the application to Planning and Zoning or wait until

whatever's going on i i think i i would leave that to you to be very honest with you right now we're still accepting applications because we really don't know how we don't know okay until it gets the second reason it's approved okay we just assume just just be aware that if we're in a predicament where the legislation changes and we have your review we may have to figure something out i understand okay but he may

NOTHING MOVES FAST. NO, I KNOW THAT.

OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU, BOARD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, 6B, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ROWAN CARMELA NOBELY, 352 NORTHEAST 98th STREET.

The applicant, Mr. Raul Novelli and Ms. Carmela Novelli, are requesting a certificate of appropriateness from the board for the replacement of the existing roofing material of the single-family residence. The property is located at 352 Northeast 98th Street, and the proposed roof material will be a single-barrel clay tile with a mixture of textures and colors seeking to be consistent with the historic character of the home. No square footage or removal of building footprint is contemplated by this request. The property was originally constructed in 1926 and built during the original Shoreland Company's development. The Mediterranean Revival architectural-styled residence received its locally designated historic landmark by the Mamie Shores Village in 1988. The two-story residence with a detached one-story garage sits on a 14,375-square-foot lot. It's comprised of approximately 2,772 square feet of living space, including four bedrooms, two-and-a-half bathrooms. With this the applicant is proposing the following items for board consideration a single barrel clay tile to the principal building only and The detached garage structure is not included But when we talk about the principal building we also include the lower roofs because I understand there's one story roofs, correct Yeah, so Fantastic. And then the clay roof blend consists of 70% Jacobia, 15% Capcana, and 15% Angea pans in the red. And with that, staff is recommending approval, and the applicants are here should you have any questions.

Thank you. Your house is beautiful, by the way. I love that house. Yeah. Hi. No problem.

Yes, sir. Please, go ahead. Oh, we need to redo the roof?

No.

Do you want us to review the samples? Oh, well, this is just a sample.

Do you want to give us a little background? Is there any issues with the roof? Are there some compromising issues?

It's exceptionally well-built. We found out it's 70 years old. And now we want to redo it. We'll do it exactly the same, with some exception, quality. The tiles here, they are just decorating items. They're not really the roof. The roof is what lay underneath.

Yes, of course. Yeah.

The choice over there is that to add the valley to substitute every metal on the roof from zinc or zinc material into copper, which is the best possible except for gold. It's the best.

Yes.

And on top of that, all the valley, all the sides and so on would be changed to copper. The basic roof would be two layers, synthetic layer nowadays, so the most advanced layer that we can have, the best one, and the asphalt too. On top of that, it would be attached and glued and cemented, this, with a special type of cement, the tile. The tiles would be important Spanish tile, verrier. You have a picture of what the roof would look like. And the rendering's cool. It's not a choice because the original roofs, the old roofs, they do not have the same color. The same color at the time in 1920, only very rich people and very limited big buildings. were similar and even there were not similar because it was almost impossible to create at the time tiles of the same color.

So variation in color is... Plus the existing ones are very dirty, right? Yeah, they're very dirty.

they're very dirty yeah that is made of concrete the last thing you want to do with things to clean them

There's a whole discussion around that, but we won't have it tonight.

Another question. Eddie, you mentioned that there's a portion of the roof that is not going to be replaced?

There's a detached garage. It's just a garage in the back. They're leaving it.

Does it have a tile roof, or it's flat, or it's what? Ah, it's flat. That's why it's not going to be replaced.

It's not exactly flat. It's got the slant. Yeah.

But there's no... No, no, no. Got it. Thank you.

So I like it. I think it's going to look beautiful.

It's going to have some variation. You mentioned that tiles are going to have variation.

Yes. I think four or five different colors. You have a picture there with... So it's not exactly what you have in your hand, but not the color.

The tile will remain, that will get dirty too, but not like the...

Is this one what he's saying? The cement. Yes. Yes.

I like that.

Okay. So it's not really that. No, it's not.

And Jacobia was the one that he just had. The guy that is at Demi's house. Yeah. Okay.

This material is the strongest one that we could find. Sure. I checked the code, and the code required a breaking point at... And you're going to keep your beautiful pink color? I love that pink color. Please don't change it. It's beautiful.

Okay. Does anybody have any other questions?

No.

Okay. Then can I have a motion?

I do have a question, but it's nothing to do with the permit. Oh. By any chance, do they have the original floor plans?

Do you have original floor plans for your house?

Floor plans?

From the 1920s? No. No, they don't.

Nobody does.

The village doesn't have it.

Yeah, that's too bad. Yeah. Okay. No, they don't have it, Patricia.

They don't have it.

Okay, so can I have a motion to approve from somebody?

I have a motion to approve. Okay. The certificate of appropriateness.

Okay, I second it.

All right. All in favor? Aye. aye you may have already submitted for permit

I think you may have submitted, and then we stopped you because it's a historic property. So now that you have this, tomorrow we're going to scan that approval.

And when we send it to you by email, your contractor, they have to submit it with their building permit.

It was submitted, but we rejected it because you needed to get this.

We have to get together and do something before you leave.

So now we're going to send you this approval that he's signing, because the board has approved your.

I'll drop her off.

No, he signed it. I'm going to send it to you, or one of us, and then when you have it, you have to submit that with your permit. You're building permit. Whoever submitted the permit.

Your contributions have already multiplied.

Okay. Thank you so much.

Good to see you again. Bye-bye. These are the originals. What do you need?

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

good night thank you so much okay you have to leave okay but we're gonna go ahead and continue for item 7 a inventory list of historically significant properties update

Yeah, but in the field.

She wants to stay for this discussion. Yeah, the inventory. We can finish. Yeah.

Oh, then go ahead. Let's go quickly then. Sure. I understand.

Go ahead, Eddie. She's going to stay.

I'll be quick also. I just wanted to give everyone, I just wanted to give the board an update. So the demolition permit was approved by council. So essentially right now anything that is found on the historic significant list, would have to be staff would essentially notify the board. So the ordinance was written originally that if anyone was on the historic significant list, And they were doing a modification to home, demolishing it, that they would have to come before the board, and the board would provide their comments.

Right.

The council amended the language, and the way it's going to be administered is that staff will notify the board, and we're thinking that we'll just send you all an email. We'll provide you with the link to the files. And if you have comments, you can just send it to staff by email. Okay. And then we will provide that information to the applicant, and then it's really up to their discretion. And then when we get ready for the P&Z board, we'll find a way to include those comments, either by an exhibit in the report, but functionally, that's how it's going to work.

There's no public comments in the P&Z board, right?

They have public comments.

Online only or oh, no, they don't have online. They have it in person so we can also make public comments there Yeah

But the ordinance or the code just specify is if these specific homes will be demolished, not if they will be altered. So in other words, an addition of some sort, it doesn't make it to this.

I can read it how it is verbatim, and the way it's written is prior to the issuance of any demolition building permit for a building, comma, an applicant shall first obtain site plan approval from the Planning and Zoning Board and a master building permit for the proposed project. So it's two things. And it says any... Any demolition building permit.

You're taking a little piece of whatever the house is. It's not only limited to a full demolition of the whole home.

I'll be honest. I believe the intention was for the full demolition. But our staff's interpretation of this is any demolition building permit. So we would treat it similarly to how it's written in the code. Where right now in the code it says... If you are adding square footage that is visible from the right of way that is above 400 square feet, you have to go through the public hearing process. However, if you have 400 square feet and below and it's not visible from the right of way, then it can be handled administratively. So we're thinking the cleanest way is just adopt that same process.

Which is good. Yeah. Which is good because our concern was not only if the whole home was going to be demolished, but is that if they're doing an addition or they're doing something, it will be coherent and harmonious with the existing building. So we will be notified of whatever plans they have for those specific homes. By you guys.

Yes.

Okay.

And I'm thinking at that point the board, right? So I think one of the conversations from the board was we want to have an opportunity to inform these applicants of really giving them more description as to the history and the authentic heritage that some of these properties contain.

Correct.

So we figured that once we notify you, hey, we've received this application. They're proposing to do X, Y, and Z. It's on the list. Here are the documents. You as a board would have the opportunity, well, let me pass along my comments to staff. That's one option. Or you can look at the application and say, I want to reach out to them. I would say you would have the opportunity. Maybe you would want to reach out to them, have your conversation. But I think it starts that dialogue, which I really feel that at the very beginning is really what this board was seeking to do. So I think you have some options as to how you want to navigate it.

Patricia wanted to say something. Patricia, go ahead.

Yes, that was my concern, how big the demolition permit should be, like not only a window or a wall. This is good because what happened with the house on 96, that they just came for the wall, it ended up completely demolished, won't happen ever again. That was our really purpose of us to like, try to find this amendment. And I think I'm very happy and thankful that we succeeded.

Yeah. So just let me clarify, though, what they said. It doesn't mean that we're going to prevent that demolition.

I know. But we'll be made aware.

Yeah, we'll be made aware so we can try. Exactly.

That's the beauty of it, even if it's partial.

Application process? Yeah. Just so that we're aware of it and can do something.

I mean, yeah. I think it's a great step in the right direction. I think it's definitely a victory. that's going to be demolitioned and demoed will have an opportunity to provide feedback to the PNC board as well as to the neighbors and community as well as the council as to the historic relevance

Exactly.

And I also wanted to mention something. It's a step in the right direction, for sure. I don't necessarily believe that it's the end of it. I mean, we shouldn't take it that way either. There's always more opportunities for... keep adding and enhancing the whole process. And from my understanding, although there was a lot of back and forth during the meeting with the council members, my understanding is that the biggest concern was not necessary that it will be good or bad that the applicants will come to us as well. It was more that this list that we created had not been yet notified to all the owners, which I think that we discussed that actually. It was a point of discussion at one point. Now that is... is being accepted, now will be the time to notify everybody, and that will be another step in the right direction. Now there's a list. The list is being approved by council, right? It's already a done... Was the list approved by council?

No. The ordinance is written so they don't have to...

They approved the ordinance, and they reviewed the list. Mm-hmm. But the list is only approved by the board.

The ordinance that we looked at yesterday that they approved says they don't have to approve the list.

Correct. Which gives the board the flexibility to amend the list as the board wants to.

And the council does not have to approve it. Because there's no legal, it's not like a historically designated list, right? It doesn't have those protections, so it doesn't need to be approved by the council.

Council remains the body that approves designations That's why they had staff do another amendment to chapter 11 where we created more language that defines what's a historic significant property and what's a designated or landmark and That was approved yesterday, right?

So the list, so planning and zoning, so that list is basically like a non-existent list?

No, it's an existing list.

It's an inventory list.

It's an inventory. Of significantly, historically significant properties.

Right, so and based on that list, if there's an applicant that is going to do something to one of those homes, it does the list that, you know. we will be informed about.

I just want to define something because there's many things that somebody can do. Like if they wanted to change the roof, a driveway, but if they proposed a demolition, let's say if they proposed to demolish more than 400 square feet, We would notify you.

On that list, not on any home.

No, just on that list. Exactly. But that list doesn't have to be approved by the council. We can add to it.

But there is a list.

There is a list. And it's going to get filed with the building department.

Yeah, exactly. So what I'm saying is that now that there's a list and it has been, okay, not approved, but it's a real list, right? We created a list. Now those owners... can be notified of the existence of the list. I mean, if I am in the list, I would like to know that I'm in that list.

You may want to know, but maybe not everybody.

The council discussed that, and there was a point where they were going to direct staff to notify, and then they... That didn't happen. They did not, no. They opted not to. Because they felt that in doing so, we would be saying this list is much... It's more than what it is. It's more than what it is. And it's just an inventory. It's like a watch list. Exactly.

A watch list, I think, is a good description. Yeah. And I think we need to be a little sensitive here because a majority of homes on that list may never even... may not come up for any type of demolition, right? Exactly. So advising them, you know, years ago we did, Patricia, you remember, we did send notice to homes, short-term property homes, and, you know, there was some controversy about that. So I would just be sensitive that... Yeah, I agree.

If I may, I agree with you, Michelle. And furthermore, this is something we've been trying and begging and begging for years to at least inform and no surprises to see what's going on. So I think this is a great achievement and I am so thankful and really admire all my team because we really, you know, we fought this for a long time. So right now, it's not the end of the road. Like Paula says, it's okay, but at least it's a great beginning. No more surprises. We'll be notified and have the opportunity, you know, to communicate. It's not going to be a hearing, but it's like to communicate and notice. the whole village uh know what's going on and and that's the point of being in this board to try to preserve yep yeah i agree i agree with patricia that it's you know it's a big accomplishment we've been trying

Some type of protections like this, the watch list, as we mentioned, I think is a good way of referring to it for many years. So, yes, Paula, this is a continuous progress in the right direction. It's an evolution, right? Like we're continuing to evolve and grow and hopefully the community. you know, agrees with the progress and ultimately it's a community objective in terms of, you know, maintaining and protecting the charm of our village.

Okay. Okay.

Yep. Anything else on this? Then let's quickly go to 7B, Eddie, the plaque unveiling for Mr. McKay.

Yes. So staff coordinated with the relevant departments, and the dates that we were provided, and imagine, consider this began April 13th. The dates we were given were May 27th and June 3rd for the unveiling. So our question is, it probably makes more sense that it's June 3rd. So that way it gives, you know, we can work with the social media team so they can at least get the word out. Right now they're promoting and advertising the art code, which is next Thursday. So it should free up the following week, giving them, you know, a clean slate to advertise the unveiling. Okay. Okay. We've already communicated with Mr. Becquet, and he was fine with that date.

Either date?

Either date.

June 3rd, okay.

And we cleared it with the relevant departments, so now it's checking to see if the board members are available that day.

I'm available.

As am I. I second.

I am available, too.

Michelle and Petitia?

June 3rd.

I am available, too. Yeah. No, the third. I might have a conflict, but the majority is available, so I think that's a great date.

Okay. All right. Let's go ahead and schedule. Historically, what times? Usually around 630. Or 6, maybe.

Before the meeting.

Yeah. 630 is good. Oh, before our meeting?

No, no, no. We don't have a meeting that day.

No, it's good 630 because it allows people that are working to come and join.

Yeah, 630 would be good.

Now, Park said they can provide – this is the list that they sent us. 25 chairs, two tents, one podium, one table, a portable speaker with mic, and a garage can. I think they mean a cooler. Or maybe they wrote garage can.

Or garbage can, like just to dispose. Garbage can to dispose like any food or beverages just to collect the.

I feel like Ron Burgundy. Don't put it on the teleprompter. He'll read it.

I think John said he wanted to have, like, wine and stuff in his house afterwards. Wait, wait, wait. Is June 7th or June 17th?

I'm getting here. June 3rd.

It's a Wednesday.

Wednesday, June 3rd.

Oh, June 3rd is like in a week and a half.

Yeah. Yes. Two weeks.

Oh, I think it's too tight for me.

Oh, and when can you make it?

I don't want to wait. After the second week, the third week, I'm going to be there.

Unfortunately, I'm leaving for California the 16th, so I won't be here.

And I am out on the 15th, 14th of June. So, I mean, if something, we can move it to the next week if, of course, John can.

Yeah, the problem is that the Parks Department, we were able to get these days from the Parks Department, and it's impossible to get them to agree to anything. So I would say let's keep it to the third.

And the property owner's availability. And the property owner.

Yeah, we can ask him, of course.

Staff has already provided the dates, and there's two dates, and I think we need to respect those dates. I agree. So June 3rd, yeah.

So, Bethita, I'm sorry, we'll have to keep it to June 3rd. Okay, it's okay. We'll call you. We'll call you in. Okay. All right.

Is there a – I forget what they call it – a curtain or something that they use to uncover the plaque? Yeah, we just brought something ourselves. That's the one item they said they couldn't provide.

Yeah, we brought something ourselves. We'll bring something. Okay. Yeah. And they're not providing refreshments, right? We'll do that? I can ask –

I believe not. No, only the chairs, tents, just the basics.

That's fine. I mean, last time they did, but it's not necessary. We can take care of that. And John, I think, said he wanted to invite people into his house for a little reception afterwards, so that would be nice.

That's really nice.

Yeah.

And sorry, a podium is also included as part of the parks?

Yes. OK, so we'll settle on June 3, then. And then I just have the financial results from the tour. Ashley was kind enough to put together a summary for us. Thank you, Ashley. Good job. So first of all, you have the list of the proceeds and the expenses from the tour. It was a very successful tour. It was the most successful we've had. Yay.

I'm aware of everybody.

Yeah. We did a great job. And then Ashley has reconciled the account. So we deposited the proceeds into the Historic Preservation Board account. So we now have a total of $5,037 in there. And we can talk at another meeting about what we want to do with some of that.

Fantastic.

Because I have some ideas, and you know you have to go, so we'll talk about it later.

And I also have some ideas.

Yeah. Okay. All right. Anything else?

I have some comments.

Yes, go ahead.

You have some comments? Yes.

Oh, I want to take this opportunity to thank and recognize my fellow co-chair, Jeffrey Sadeh, He spearheaded this event. We all supported, all volunteered, but it was thanks to Jeffrey's spearheading that we were able to bring the village together, hundreds of members of this village together. And it just shows. for that he's a key factor thank you you're so kind so i have to say we are incredibly lucky that he and mickey chose the village as their home six years ago we're better for it ah thank you thank you we're so happy to be here that's very sweet of you thank you daniel thank you so much

Well, it was a team effort, and everybody did a great job, and everybody, you know, Paolo volunteered her house, which is on the tour, which is exciting, so it was definitely a team effort. Thank you. And I don't think there's anything else. Take it away, Eddie.

Take it away.

Nothing else? Okay. If there's nothing else, then I will adjourn the meeting. Thank you.

Excellent. Okay. Patricia, I'm going to hang, okay? Wait, they need to adjourn the meeting. We just did. He just did.

The gavel, the gavel was.

He just did. He just did. He just adjourned it. I have to run out. Okay, bye-bye.

Bye. Bye, Michelle.

You know that, you guys know that off the record, I called public works.

Uh-huh.

For what? Not off the record yet.