Planning & Zoning - Regular Meeting

The planning and zoning commission of Dumbbell County. I would like to ask if anyone would like to offer the invocation today.

Thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you for the blessings on this town, on our city and county. Gracias por darnos la oportunidad de considerar asuntos para ayudar a nuestra comunidad. Ayúdanos a actuar de la mejor manera posible. Cuídanos en la toma de decisiones hoy. Acompáñenos.

Procederemos a revisar la aprobación de las actas de la reunión del 22 de julio.

Segundo la moción.

Gracias. ¿Alguna otra discusión? Si no, todos a favor, por favor, digan sí o levanten la mano.

Están aprobadas según lo distribuido.

Y el informe financiero. ¿Hanla puede presentarlo? Ustedes tienen el informe financiero actualizado de este mes en sus paquetes. No hubo inquietudes del personal sobre el informe financiero de este mes. Y también tienen el balance general en la segunda página.

But there was no concern from the person or anything to inform him. Hey, director, about the financial report, just clarify and remember, we have two departments together.

We have the planning and zoning commission on the left and the Danville Architectural Heritage Board on the right, on the right. Thank you. So, the budget that we are showing now that we approved the specialist in SIG, will that be included from now on? I did not go to the court yesterday to ask for a budget increase for the analyst of SIG and the base fund because what we requested was not granted to us completely. It was partially granted to us and that fund for the analyst of SIG that was granted to us for that increase will only be given to us after the analyst of SIG has been hired.

So that will not be shown in our budget until that person... Will it end up having a third element in the document to trace that or is it?

No, it would be conglomerated and would be incorporated into the PNC budget.

So we need to make a budget amendment at that time.

Creo que sí. Y después de que esa persona sea contratada, entonces nos liberarán los fondos.

Rastrearlo de esa manera sería la forma correcta.

Y creo que la ciudad de Danville también hizo esto, pero el Tribunal Fiscal retuvo esos fondos para nosotros, para el uso específico.

Entonces no existe preocupación de que nuestros gastos con eso no estén cubiertos. Sí. Es cuestión de tiempo.

Sí, es cuestión de tiempo. Y de que sea específico para ese uso en particular.

Para los fondos. Hablaremos de eso cuando ocurra.

Y podemos programar un comité de revisión presupuestaria antes de contratar a ese analista.

Gracias.

Bien, gracias. ¿Garantías de construcción?

Para probar eso.

Oh, lo siento. Fui demasiado rápido. Um, si necesitamos tener una aprobación del informe presupuestario.

Me gustaría proponer que aprobemos el presupuesto.

¿Alguna otra pregunta o comentario? ¿Todos a favor? Bien, queda aprobado tal como se distribuyó. Y ahora podemos pasar a la construcción. Tiene las garantías de construcción mensuales actualizadas de agosto de 2026 en sus paquetes. El mes pasado liberamos la garantía de construcción de Yodisharp, así que se retiró de la lista. Lo único a destacar en las actualizaciones es que el saldo de intereses de la cuenta de garantía en efectivo bajó de 224 a 175 dólares debido a una comisión mensual que debería salir del Fondo General. Estoy trabajando con Farmers para corregir ese cargo y ponerlo en orden. Pero hemos empezado a usar un nuevo sistema Payroll. Esa comisión estaba saliendo de la cuenta de garantía en efectivo y no del Fondo General. So, it's just a note about the construction guarantees.

So, you expect this document to have only $35?

Correct. Yes, that's what I'm working with Farmers to try to solve. It was two months with that monthly charge of $30 that was charged on the third day. And originally, it should come out of the general operating fund when we register. It's a new system where you can pay by contact, approach the window and simply pay, facilitating payments. y accidentalmente lo cargaron en la cuenta en efectivo y no en el Fondo Operativo General, así que estoy trabajando con nuestro contacto en FARC.

Es un problema recurrente.

Y esperamos que esté solucionado para el próximo mes. Pero aparte de eso, ¿no hubo preocupaciones sobre la cuenta del jurado este mes?

Y sin cambios, ¿cierto?

Y sin cambios.

Me gustaría proponer que aceptemos la fianza. Garantía de construcción.

Does anyone second the motion? All in favor? Well, that is also approved then. Very well. We will move on to the subdivision approvals and these are not in public session, correct?

I give you the floor.

The first on today's list or the only one on the agenda for subdivision approvals is NEPO Properties, LSE, including John and Julie Rhodes, Chad Robinson, Martha King, and NEPO Properties, LSE, has requested a subdivision in their plot at 132 North 2nd Street in Danville. You have in front of you the staff report that includes the comments from the technical review that we had this month. I will read those comments or some of the notes that we received during the technical review for which they have the updated plan. There seems to be an invasion in the southeast corner of the property towards the church grounds, so they have updated the plan to leave evidence of it.

They modified it in the corner. That's what they wanted.

They left evidence of the invasion. So, note number three is about the existence of privacy.

Director, allow me to clarify for the commissioners, this is a minor subdivision. Correct. But we didn't do it on purpose. We have been doing it through e-mails, that's why they have here the extensive e-mails of the staff. It is not discussed in this way. What they are trying to do is clarify a handful of small things, especially the corners.

and it was requested that the note on the aluvial plain appear in this plan. And this is a minor subdivision with revision because it is an association of condominiums, so according to our orders, it must go through the planning and zoning commission for its approval before registering in the office of writing, even if it is a minor subdivision.

Yes, because normally minors would not be administrative.

This has not been subdivided in the last five years, so that is not the reason why we are reviewing it. It is only because they have the note and because it is a condominium regime.

They also addressed the doubts about the parking that they were here.

I think it's a yes, there is a parking note right there in the plan, it is shown, but the parking note says that the accounting office rents the parking lot to the city of Danville. El consultorio dental se estaciona en el lote de la oficina de contabilidad, también propiedad de Nepo Properties LLC, que cuenta con 22 espacios de estacionamiento en total, incluyendo espacios accesibles para personas con discapacidad.

Gracias.

Entonces, todas las preocupaciones de la revisión técnica han sido abordadas. Lo siento.

No, se lo iba a preguntar, sí. If it is significant that this is an association of condominiums instead of a commercial business.

It is not in respect of the approval of the subdivision. It simply has to be before the board for its approval before it can be registered in the office of writing according to our ordinance. In other situations where we have condominiums that are not related to...

y las tenemos es algo que hemos utilizado históricamente creo que es algo novedoso pero creo que algunos de los negocios en la autopista algunos de esos centros comerciales han sido manejados como condominios y la subdivisión aquí están creando un plano separado pero es un solo litigio That's right, because the property is up to the walls, but the property is a common property.

Puedo leer el correo electrónico que aclara la relación con el negocio. Si puedo leerlo para ustedes. Estos mismos dos negocios han estado operando sus prácticas de odontología y contabilidad en la misma ubicación, el mismo espacio y bajo el mismo techo desde hace varios años. Aquí no se está llevando a cabo ninguna ampliación de la huella del edificio. Jessica y el Dr. Neal compraron la parcela a la derecha de su oficina y crearon su propio estacionamiento designado y dedicado.

Boom.

Y esto no cambia ninguno de los requisitos de estacionamiento.

Is there any reason to think that in the future, maybe if these two businesses are sold to someone else, what we are proposing, will it continue to work? Should it work in the future?

Not at this moment. I don't see the intention for that. I think it was more to clarify the property. It had become very divided. I think this in some way clarifies the property of the unmarried.

No tengo motivos para pensar que esto no funcionaría para futuros propietarios. ¿Existe alguna preocupación por su parte?

No, en este momento.

Esa es la forma en que yo también lo vi. No vi ninguna preocupación.

No hubo preocupaciones del personal, que no se aclarara. Había algo más en el... No, todas las notas sobre las que preguntamos acerca de los límites y la invasión de la construcción quedaron anotadas en el plano. Entonces, esto no se considera sesión pública, pero supongo que preguntaré si hay más comentarios. Se desee nacer. Podría acercarse y decir su nombre y dirección.

Justin Wilman, el topógrafo de Wilman. The objective of this at this moment is that the accounting office and the dental office have been joint ownership in different percentages and there are many different titularities that have been sold and right now, you know, people have seventh and ninth in different percentages and they are trying to make the dentist the owner of his side in case they want to make improvements in their part of the office in front of the accounting office. Since the 80s, the whole United States has been a living hell. To be honest, they are trying to clarify and fix it.

Anyone else? If that's not the case, I'm ready to hear a motion.

I propose that we approve this, that we agree with it.

There is a motion to read. Any other discussion? So thank you. All those in favor? It is approved. And no more subdivision approvals. We will continue. We have nothing for public hearing. So let's move on to new issues. Assessor Committee. Thank you. Very well, there was no report from the advisory committee, but I wanted to present the calendar of public meetings on data centers, on data centers. I took the comments from the last meeting on the article and this changes a little the intention of the public meetings, it is more of a listening session for these meetings that I am presenting now. El propósito es recopilar comentarios públicos y aportes de la comunidad sobre los centros de datos, reunirse con los residentes en todas las ciudades incorporadas y áreas no incorporadas del condado de Boyle y documentar las prioridades e inquietudes de la comunidad para informar el borrador de la ordenanza de centros de datos que se preparará en 2027 antes de que expire la moratoria. Bueno, después de reunirme con el juez Bottom, creo que es importante al menos tratar de salir al público y escuchar, aunque no tengamos nada redactado en este momento, y simplemente estar disponibles hasta que ese borrador se haga público, porque creo que será más aceptable para el público si los escuchamos antes de, ya saben, tener una ordenanza redactada.

There are many ways to carry out the public meeting itself. They will think of publishing an agenda with categories. So, if anyone wants to talk about water, here you have, give me the answer to your comment.

Well, at this moment, the public meetings would be two monthly meetings a month, the first Tuesday and the third Wednesday of each month. And more or less, it is numbered from the meeting 1 to 9. realmente en 2026 habría ocho reuniones y luego en 2027 habría seis reuniones más hasta que las reuniones terminen en marzo de 2027 cuando comencemos a redactar esa ordenanza así que creo que para las reuniones de 2026 mi intención es simplemente escuchar y luego para las reuniones de 2027 tener specific topics, but more than anything, I just want to get to different places. So the first two meetings would take place in the basement of the Danville City Hall. The second would take place, the next two in the public library of Boyd County, then the next two in the Junction City Hall, then the next two in the community center of Falkland. Essentially, the same intention as the integral plan is simply to ensure that each incorporated and non-incorporated community is that they are accessible to them so that they do not have to come to the city and that is the intention of the meetings of 2026, that they are only listening sessions. And then in 2027, two meetings would be held in New Vista in the city of Circumvalación. Two meetings would be held in the city hall of Perryville and then the last two meetings in the library of County of Boya. And I think that for the meetings of 2027 we will have a better understanding. of the specific issues that concern people about water and electricity, and we could, in those meetings of 2027, go deeper into the technical aspect of those issues. But I think that for the meetings of 2026, I think that going to the communities and simply listening to their concerns, more than anything else, is the most important part to start with.

So you are contemplating a document that can be consulted directly from January. After that point, we are listening and collecting.

So I think 2026 is more to listen to and compile. In 2027 we can start writing. And then if it goes down from the public meetings from 2027 to the third page, there is an attempt to implement and adopt a schedule. As I said, the public meetings would end on Wednesday, March 17, 2027 and then from April to June. The staff would finish the order and I think we would start in January to write the order while we continue to have public meetings. But on April 7, we would attempt to complete the ordinance and on April 14, we would have a final public meeting in the commission room with a kind of final draft of the ordinance. And then an attempt to send it to the legislative bodies until May and ensure that it is completed and adopted by the bodies before the moratorium ends in June 2027.

¿La adopción del documento final típicamente un intervalo de 60 días?

Sí, serían de 60 a 90 días para estar seguros.

¿Permite el ajuste de los detalles finales?

Sí, y nos permite aprobarlo aquí y luego toma tiempo llevarlo a los cuerpos legislativos. Así que tengo dos preguntas. La primera pregunta es, ¿usted está autorizando reuniones públicas sobre el centro de datos a petición del juez ejecutivo? No, no es a petición, pero en conversaciones con la ciudad. Y el condado creo que es importante comenzar esas conversaciones con el público. Entonces, no es por su petición. I wonder why we discussed this in the advisory committee and we felt that we should have waited a little before programming the meeting. So I wonder who requested that they be programmed. By their own request. After conversations with the city of Ocona. Well, but they didn't ask for it. They didn't specifically make a public audience request.

Creo que nuestra discusión en la última reunión fue que queríamos tener tiempo como comité asesor para trabajar en el borrador de las regulaciones y luego presentarlo al público. Supongo que no me molesta tener algún tipo de reunión pública abierta para obtener opiniones, pero francamente.

La gente que viene a esas reuniones conoce los problemas. Serán energía, agua, ruido y ya sabe tal vez otras cosas que puedan preocupar a la gente, pero no sé los temas principales.

No estoy seguro de saber qué. Hace por nosotros esta extensa lista de reuniones.

Quiero decir, no. Está bien. Estamos escuchando al público, pero... I think I've heard a lot of public comments in the last six months about the importance of data centers, and I have a monthly meeting. It's on the sheet in front of you. café con un planificador y ese es el tema principal en la mente de todos ahora así que aunque no fue solicitado directamente por la ciudad del condado esto ha sido un tema de discusión durante los últimos seis meses y por eso tengo otra pregunta y luego dejaré tiene la primera reunión del 1 de septiembre That gives enough time to plan an open public meeting, since it approaches quite quickly.

In less than a week.

Would you ask that question? I don't know what the requirements are for that.

Where we are not going to be intervening or making a final decision. I think they could have a meeting with little notice. The notification requirements of, you know, 14 days or those of the statute, where you must notify the neighbors about specific types of requests such as amendments to zoning maps and conditional use permits. I think that at this point, if we try to announce something, we would have to do it, treat it as a special call. But without a final decision to make. I don't think it requires public notice.

So, do we need to approve this in the schedule or is it under your jurisdiction? I ask, what do we hope to achieve with this?

Listening. We are listening.

We are listening for this year.

We are.

Obtaining our draft.

We are listening. We are listening. Creo que podría ser beneficioso tener at least a brief description of some of the things that we are considering, perhaps some outstanding points of the regulation model or something like that so that this is not just or we are in favor of a large data center without requirements for them because it will only become a great session of complaints and alarmism instead of a Here, there are some things that other communities have discussed and considered. We are taking this into consideration. What other contributions or concerns do you have as citizens of the Will County? When treating this as our position, it is rather a no, unless the data center does X, Y and Z to make this type of investment in the community. And we simply don't have the regulations. We are not trying to present regulations. We just want to make sure that the public knows that this is under consideration. We do have some parameters that we are talking about. Which of these do they like? What would they like to have improved? What are some of the other concerns they have? And I think that would help to avoid.

Darren is absolutely right.

I think Darren has every reason to raise this if we carry out public listening sessions. I think they will be very useful here. I warn you that for me, the reason why we address this is extremely important. If we say that we are going to have a listening session on data centers, that can open the door to or just say, I don't like it, I don't like it. Yes, I think it's very important to say that we are having listening sessions because we don't have an ordinance on data centers. We have a moratorium on data centers that expires next June. And before that, we would like to write una ordenanza sobre centros de datos. Y así. Por esos tres puntos principales, queremos invitar a comentarios públicos. Creo que es justo, pero también creo que sabemos cuál es el... We know what the parameters are with which I would like to enter saying also, here are models of orders or similar orders from other places, because I know that you have several that you are reviewing, Jana. I doubt. in putting you to any of us with you or to all of us in front of a room of 400 people without parameters. You know, the Mercer County Gymnasium, when they had the crowd, it was full of many comments.

But that's why I want to go to the public areas instead of them coming to us. I understand your point, but I think you need to establish a little context.

Cuando la gente llegue, tal vez solo 15 minutos de presentación inicial, quizás sea tener uno o dos documentos que vayas a compartir con ellos, cosas que estén disponibles. De lo contrario, creo que nos exponemos a que esto sea un caos total.

Tampoco creo que nadie vaya a esperar hasta la reunión de Falkland.

Todos van a venir. Todos van a venir en la primera o segunda reunión. y realmente lo harán.

¿Has creado preguntas para la discusión? Considerando crear temas de discusión. Definitivamente quiero tener un esquema para esta reunión y modelos de ordenanzas de centros de datos que sean favorables, que hemos discutido en el Comité Asesor, incluyendo la ordenanza del Condado de Garrett para centros de datos. Creo que eso estuvo muy bien. Creo que el KERC, el Consejo de Recursos de Kentucky, tiene un gran modelo de ordenanza. Así que sí quiero tener modelos de ordenanzas disponibles. Pero más importante aún, quiero obtener la opinión del público que vive aquí.

Sí, creo que al abrirla es, ¿qué queremos que piensen? ¿Cómo queremos que se sea? ¿Qué queremos que haga? Ellos están y yo. Podemos, creo que nuestro mensaje debería ser que estamos considerando. No queremos meternos en, ya sabes, discusiones, a gritos, argumentos, etcétera. Reconocemos que hay preocupaciones sobre la energía, el agua y el ruido. Existen algunos modelos de ordenanzas que creemos que son realmente buenos. ¿Qué otra opinión tienes sobre ordenanzas que te gustaría ver en lugar de simplemente decir no a los centros de datos? Mi suposición es que nadie que realmente apoye o sea neutral respecto al centro de datos aparecerá en estas reuniones. Van a ser todas personas que están totalmente en contra de los centros de datos.

Creo que te sorprendería. Puede que aparezca. Puede que aparezca. Puede que decidan no hablar.

Bueno, entonces la percepción que podría ocurrir si no somos cuidadosos con esto es. So, my question is, do we need to approve this calendar?

¿Es esto algo que requiere la aprobación de la comisión?

No sé si lo hacemos. Es mi opinión. Suena a que es un horario algo fluido si surge algo.

Henry, se espera que todos asistamos a todas estas reuniones.

Porque en lo contrario, estás solo aquí y no... No espera que todos ustedes asistan a estas reuniones. Ustedes en esa condición.

Do you have any concerns about whether this is approved or not? But I need to understand what our role here is.

Because it has the seal of planning and zoning and because we are going to treat it as if any of you attended, I think it makes sense to proceed at least as if it were a public meeting, an open meeting.

I think it makes sense to give the authorization today and, you know, authorize your director to publish the schedule and announce it as a special meeting.

Especially if we hope to incorporate any public comment into the order.

Well, I suppose I need a motion in one way or another regarding this.

Let me ask Henry before moving on to that. One. Yes, there is. But we were talking about the first part being a collection of information without an answer, waiting for the commissioners.

That's in Mercer County, that's what they did.

The whole commission attended a meeting, and the commissioners only listened. They were there to listen to their comments.

That way, when they finally voted on the ordinance, they had listened to everything the public had to say.

Y eso es una aclaración importante que hacer, porque no siempre hemos hecho eso. Con estas reuniones especiales, una parte de nosotros puede asistir, o puede asistir la totalidad. Lo hemos hecho de ambas maneras por lo que he visto en esos años. Así que eso es algo que debemos considerar aquí con estas reuniones. Vamos a tener quórum presente en ellas, o suficiente gente allí.

Sugeriría, si me permiten, no tener quórum y coordinarse entre ustedes para no llegar a ese punto de quórum en cada una. I'm sorry.

How are you going to announce it? On your Facebook.

I don't have Facebook, but I'll send this to the cities, I'll contact the mayors of each municipality, and I'll communicate with the Attorney General's Office to announce it through their Facebooks and websites, and I'll work with Melanie in the city to spread that information. Besides, I think we talked in the cafe with the planner this week with Neon. We talked about putting it on the Advocate Messenger.

Are you going to connect this to the Internet? Yes, yes, it will be on our website.

I mean during the meeting itself. As for live broadcast.

And other orders that we can consider. I can recommend once again that we ask for substantive recommendations and not opinions about whether the data centers are good or not. In the sense that we raise this specifically as a request for public comments on specific recommendations

o temas que debemos abordar en la ordenanza.

Recomendaciones específicas para temas que deberíamos abordar y no si apoyamos o nos oponemos.

Al final del día, la planificación no decide si es centro.

Todo lo que podemos decir es aquí están las regulaciones con centro de aprobación. Esa es nuestra función. El tribunal fiscal y los demás tienen que lidiar. I agree with what you say, but I must say that at some point it comes here for a vote.

The ordinance comes for a vote.

Well, sorry. The proposed ordinance... We have been invited by the legislative bodies to propose the ordinance, which will later become a law on which they vote.

And then...

So I agree with you, Tom. Carefully during the introduction, we need to raise it and raise it and raise it and raise it. To limit the limit, so we are voting to have that day. That's my intention. This is informative.

But I will say one of the conversations that Commissioner Osmut and I had with a ... members of the public in the café with the planner, is that this county is very smart. They are technically very capable of helping and I think it is important to ask the community for help and I think it is important to listen.

I think this is going to be discouraging, but I think it's a good idea.

I like Tom's approach.

One of the first things that should be said is that the legislative bodies have asked us to create an ordinance on age centers. This is not about whether the data centers are good or bad, or whether we want them or not. We need to create specific orders for the County of Boyle, and that is our task. Give us substantial support. I think September 1st, I think the agenda for the meeting is plausible, except for September 1st. Because I think the advisory committee should review the presentation of 15 minutes before we leave. And then I think we should schedule our attendance to meetings.

Could you have a list of who will attend each meeting?

a list or the communities that are necessary, but that would be one thing. Before going to the 16th, I think the advisory committee should at least agree on how to present it and open it, edit it and make sure that we are all on the same page. Then start the meetings and obtain the opinions. And I think that by being structured that way, we really review the approach.

I think that will help the Commission receive much less criticism from the public, right?

I think that according to what I understand, Marcelo addressed it in a way that ended up becoming a total chaos.

So you want the advisory committee to only be present at these meetings?

No, no, no, no. I mean, check the introduction. de diez a quince minutos sobre por qué tenemos esta reunión y qué es lo que intentamos obtener de ella. Los órganos legislativos nos han encomendado la tarea de redactar una orden. No estamos diciendo que vamos a tener un centro de datos. No estamos diciendo que no vamos a tener un centro de datos. Tenemos que redactar Ordenanzas para el Condado de Boyle y quizás incluir puntos clave y enlaces a algunos de los modelos de ordenanza que han revisado y les gustan. Estamos aquí para conocer sus opiniones e inquietudes sobre los centros de datos, entendiendo que el agua, el ruido y el uso del suelo son nuestras mayores preocupaciones.

The ordinances must address those issues.

What substantial contributions would you make to the ordinance regarding those concerns? What would you like us to include in our ordinance?

So what I hear from you, Darren, is a motion to approve to proceed with the public meetings, but I wish that the first one does not happen until the 16th before, of which the advisory committee could meet and review the initial script of the meeting. That's what I understand. Okay, that's fine.

And we could include, it's such a hot topic that when announcing it, I'm not sure. Let's see if we need two meetings in each.

To get the public's opinion.

But think especially about Junction. Right now I can talk about Junction, but you know, it's like if you had...

Four.

In a meeting, right?

So I can get a second opinion for Darren's motion to be ratified.

Let's see.

Any addition or correction to that motion? I wanted to add something.

I was going to suggest that we have a single meeting in each place instead of two. Permit me. Is it necessary?

Do you think it is necessary? Comment. I think it is necessary. I think it is important to go out to the public and I also think that if we condense everything in a single meeting, per month, that single meeting would be saturated. If there were two, the attendance would be divided. Y permite que las personas que no pueden asistir a una reunión al mes porque trabajan o tienen hijos, puedan hacerlo. Quiero permitir más tiempo disponible, si es posible.

Creo que en este tema tan candente, la percepción pública de que les damos muchas oportunidades para expresar su opinión es algo positivo.

¿Alguna otra discusión? ¿Alguna otra discusión?

Yo tengo algunas más. Juan, hablamos de un volumen de reuniones como este, yo sufro por eso.

Creo que al público le agradecerá tener la oportunidad de hablar. Creo que quizá prefieran tener un poco más de tiempo cuando se publique la ordenanza real.

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I predict that people will ask for a little more time when the time comes.

But I wanted to ask Hannah, Darren, or whoever has an opinion, why wouldn't we want to have a quorum in these meetings, to the point of trying to avoid it?

I would say that simply so as not to have a quorum and not to carry out matters outside the commission room. by perception and by the rules of not doing business.

If there was a quorum, and I am neutral about it, it caught my attention to emphasize not having it, but if we announce it as a special meeting, it is limited to what is in the agenda. So there is a way to control it, without acts, without financial reports, only public hearings on the issues designated.

And well, I probably won't do live broadcast, but I will definitely record audio.

Tengo que estar de acuerdo contigo, Henry. Si no vamos a estar allí, la única forma de enterarme es escuchando la grabación. Y estoy seguro de que el comité revisará algunos de los puntos destacados de esa reunión.

Tomaré actas muy detalladas de cada reunión. Simplemente siento que en las reuniones públicas, la gente es más honesta. Cuando no hay cámaras de video. I think so, but I will definitely take this one.

As we work on the ordinance. Well, there is an advantage in that we are as many of us as possible to really listen to what the public says.

You already know the notes and that is also after the facts. But there is nothing like listening to people and knowing what is the intention of what they tell us, the feedback they give us.

Yes, and thank you for mentioning the people's disposition to talk if they are not being transmitted live. A very good consideration. Secondly, I feel that our chronogram is optimistic. Creo que es terriblemente optimista terminar de redactar en un periodo determinado, entregarlo a los órganos legislativos y esperar que ellos, simplemente creo que es optimista. Dada nuestra historia con nuestros órganos legislativos, que ellos vean esta ordenanza y la aprueben en un mes.

Puede que lo hagan.

No, ellos no pueden dictarnos eso a nosotros. Esa es nuestra tarea. Pero sería así.

Well, sir, he's saying we should give it to him first.

I think we owe it to ourselves and to them to take into account what we know about how people act in the community, okay? And because if we hand them over in May, then there is a chance that someone will have to ask for a moratorium extension.

How many times have we had?

Absolutely.

And if we come here on April 14 and we have the final public audience of the planning commission.

We could, on the 28th, I suppose, have the final adoption meeting. That's a long time.

It is likely that we will find something in that meeting and postpone it, but there are many revisions.

antes de tiempo, así que quiero decir, supongo. Sin embargo, puede vernos pasando por algunas situaciones. Me sorprendería si no lo hacemos.

Bien, tenemos una moción y un segundo en el pleno para aprobar la celebración de estas reuniones abiertas o públicas.

La moción... Estamos aprobando la... The motion, as I understand it, is that we approve having public meetings that do not start on September 1, but that there is first a consultative meeting to review the script. And so the first meeting would not take place at least until the second scheduled meeting for September 16.

That is my interpretation of your motion.

I recommend that we proceed to approve this calendar.

We can make changes, suggest changes when the advisory committee meets.

So I think it is important to include in the motion that we approve the public meetings and Calendario sujeto a cambios futuros. Vamos a asistir todos.

No veo por qué asistir.

Quiero decir, no me preocupa que. Definitivamente a mí tampoco, me preocupa. Pero no tengo ninguna pregunta. Solo quiero aclarar.

Quiero decir, si vamos a tener una reunión pública, definitivamente me gustaría estar ahí para ver, para leer.

No, yes, I think they have to cover those two categories because there will be times when I won't be there all the time. But then I don't see any reason why we shouldn't be there.

I think we talked about having a record sheet with Hanna's office so that we know who was going to be there and who wasn't.

This could also be part of our approach, to say that we can or not having a committee quorum. But we don't take it seriously enough. And this is not approving us.

We are not taking measures. We are not approving anything.

In that way. We can have as many commissioners present as they decide to attend on a specific date. I think that would be great. Very well.

Can someone rephrase the motion for me, please?

Well then, the motion is to approve the proposed meeting calendar, with the exception of Tuesday, September 1st. We would eliminate that meeting. And the meeting calendar can be adjusted in the future if necessary. Will the advisory council meet? with the planning director before the September 16 meeting to develop the introduction and framework for the public audience.

Public meeting. And the commissioners are encouraged to attend, although it is not mandatory.

Perfect.

And I can get a second person for that motion. Thank you, Terri. Any additional discussion?

I just want to thank Hanna for having a document like this and I think for putting it on the website because it is a good measure of transparency for the public to see how the ratification process is.

All those in favor, please raise your hand. It is approved by unanimity. Thank you, Hanna. The advisory committee did meet between the last meeting and today's meeting. You didn't mention that there would be something that would arise from the committee. Dan, I think you could have presided over that meeting of the committee. Is there something you would like to mention about that meeting?

I don't think there is anything additional that we need to discuss.

The budget committee, something from... I would like to request a brief executive session of the staff committee to discuss a measure, a matter of staff. Can I get approval to do that, to move on to executive session? Motion approved. All those who are in favor. In the agenda we have officials and committees. And I also want to ask, we have, I think the recommendation for an increase in the staff committee comes as a motion.

We vote to approve it.

In the agenda I have the terms of appointment of the commissioners of planning and zoning before you. This is just an update of the new members of the commission and their current appointments. But I wanted to ask if anyone would be willing to be the secretary. Previously, I know that it was a little inactive, considered inactive, but the secretary is responsible according to las ordenanzas de Caruthers. El secretario de la comisión es responsable de la educación continua del proyecto de ley 55 y simplemente estará a cargo de asegurarse de que eso esté en orden. Básicamente, usted sería el receptor de correos electrónicos certificados de educación continua y simplemente llevar un registro de los otros comisionados y de usted mismo para asegurarse de que estén al día con esa educación continua. Tengo la carpeta, está actualizada. Realmente, solo ser el receptor de sus correos electrónicos y de sus certificados. No es difícil, pero es complicado cuando tengo muchas otras cosas. Así que, si a alguien le importaría ser el secretario. No es mucho esfuerzo.

No, pero cuando se listó aquí como secretario con el espacio en blanco, mi visión no era que te encargaras de las actas de las reuniones.

No, no, no, no. No son las actas. Sé que en otros consejos y comisiones se encargaría de las actas, pero esto es sólo llevar un registro de la educación continua para asegurar que todos estén al día y en orden. Lo tengo más o menos listado y no lo tengo frente a mí. El estatuto dice que son cuatro horas el primer año para cada comisionado, ya sea antes o después de ser nombrado, y luego son 12 horas por un periodo de cuatro años. Así que sí. Pero me preguntaba si alguien estaría dispuesto a ser secretario.

Pueden cambiarle el nombre al puesto, estaría encantado de hacerlo.

No puedo. Es el secretario. Y sé que hay muchos hombres en este consejo, pero todos pueden hacerlo.

No.

Todos pueden hacerlo.

Estaré encantado de intentarlo. Te lo agradezco. Pásame tus archivos originales y empezaré desde ahí.

Lo mantendré al día y luego te lo entregaré. Lo tendré listo.

Gracias.

Algo más respecto a los oficiales. Eso es todo.

¿Puedo? Mi nombre se escribe D-A-R-I-N. Pasa todo el tiempo, así que... Estoy casi seguro de que en PVA está como N, así que diré eso. Bien, ¿algún anuncio para hoy?

¿Alguien quiere hacer una moción para levantar la sesión? Solo quisiera agradecer a Sally por su servicio. Gracias.