Town Council - Regular Meeting

Start with the pledge of allegiance followed by a moment of silence. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. All right. Can we begin with a roll call, please? Ethan Maple, present. Ryan Hardley, here. Bill Neim, here. Chad Melender, here. Cherry Reed,

here. All right. First thing on the agenda is claims 2.1 approval of APVs 28752 through 28810. I'd like to make a motion that we approve APVS number 28752 through 28810 as provided in our backup materials. I'll second that motion. Fine motions. Thank you. We got a first by Ethan, second by Bill. There any further conversations? Those in favor say I. I.

Opposed. And that motion pass. Next three is the adoption of minutes. Um the adoption town council me minutes from February 4th, 2026. I'll make a motion we adopt the town council minutes from February 4th, 2026. I'll second. Motion made by Ryan, second by Terry. Are there any um additions or deletions that need to be made? Any conversation? Those in favor say I. I. Opposed.

And that bill passes. We leave space on our agenda for public comments. Uh 3 minutes time limit for um anything that is on the agenda. So on the agenda only. If you're interested, you can walk up to our podium so they can hear what we're all saying and we can go from there. All right. No takers. Moving on to old business. Um, ordinance staggering terms of office for town council members. Zach, you want to start us out here?

Yeah. Uh, council B has been uh kind enough to connect me with your county clerk, Miss Bob Green. Um, I have not heard back from her on her initial email. She's going to pull some guide books what she said try to provide a little bit more guidance, but that's where we're at. Also,

I actually spoke with um, Representative Ethan Lawson yesterday. Um, I had spoken with him last year about staggering the election cycle, which he supports. uh he contacted me about House Bill 1055. This is a bill that he's co-authored. As it reads now, the bill allows cities or towns with a population of 10,000 or more to pass an ordinance to opt out of the bill and continue with 2027 election or odd years. If they don't do that, they move to even years. So all the towns with a population of under 10,000 automatically have to move to elect uh elections to even years. Uh he has asked the state election office to clarify with this bill how the staggered terms would work for us as written. So in a perfect world uh this would stagger our elections to 2830. Um so he should know more by the end of next week on how this plays out. As you all know, we don't have to do any act right now. This is something we need to act on by the end of the year. But let's see how Bill 1055 plays out and the information that Representative Lawson gets for us and see if this helps us because the way I look at it now, um, if this goes through and this this plays in our favor, we can do the elections at 2830. Uh, this allows us to not have to hold a special election, which is what we're going for. So, uh, I say we sit on this, see how it plays out, and go from there.

Does anybody want to make a motion to table this until further information? I'll make a motion that we table this item pending further information. I'll second. Such a good motion. It is great. An outstanding motion made by Bill and second by Ryan. Is there any further discussion? I'd like to rephrase my motion. I would like to implore us to continue this pending further information. This happens all the time. Good memory. All right. All those in favor say I. I.

Opposed. Awesome. That is tabled. On to new business and I will turn the floor over to Chief Elely. I like mics like these. Our officers look so good.

Look at them. Officer Lindsay brings a wealth of experience to the Palace Department with his service as a veteran of the US Army. The law enforcement career spans a decade including five years with the Orlando Police Department and five years in the police department. Beyond his professional credentials is deeply invested in the local community. He resides in Palestine with his wife and two children. Both of them are students in New school system. His transition to the department where his family lives and grows. We are honored to have I, Roger Lindsay,

I, Roger Lindsay, do solemnly swear domly swear that I will at all times that I will at all times protect life and property Protect life and property. Abide by the policies and regulations. Abide by the policy and regulations. Established by the town of California. Established by the county. The department the department the laws in the constitution of the state of Indiana. the law of the constitution of the state of Indiana and the constitution of the United States of America. And the constitution of the United States of America. I shall speak the truth at all times. I shall speak the truth at all times. Whether under oath or not. Whether under oath or not. And shall endeavor to ensure I shall endeavor to ensure equal justice for all equal justice for all in the performance of my duties and the performance of my duties

without prejudice without prejudice I shall act with impartiality I shall act with impartiality towards all towards all and respect the rights of others and respect the rights of others at all at all times I shall do my utmost I shall do my utmost to be a credit to the community to be a credit to the community for which I serve for which I serve so I go off.

This is always You can stick him. Just go hard. You can stick him once if you want. Hard and deep. That's what Yes. Officer Lindsay, we want to shake your hand. Yeah, we want to shake your hand. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you, sir. Congratulations. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Wish we could give you Orlando weather. Kind of did today. Kind of kind of did. Kind of did today. That's we got. That's all we got.

Awesome. Well, that's exciting. You want to go take a picture with all the guys? Feel free if you guys want to run out. I know this is a very exciting information. Come on for the evening. We'll be back. Perfect. All right. Well, if you don't want to stay for a little thing, you are not um take the family. I'll be okay to stay there, but you got pictures. Yeah. Okay, cool. They're not inviting you. I didn't think I was going to get invited, but I was hoping that I would get access to the speed limit sign there. That's I don't think I will. Uh, moving on to 6.2 Town Center Project LOI and ratio contract.

I think we're still in the process of working some things out. So, I would recommend we keep this an old we can just move it to old business, but we're going to continue working on that as a team. Correct. Any objections to tableing that? All right, we will table 6.2. two. Our next meeting, uh, moving on to 6.3, community service donation, Zoe's Place, Child Advocacy Center.

That was me. Um, I wanted to talk about the budget that we have this year for donations. We had 6,000 budgeted for community support. We have 7,500 for community events and outreach. And we need to decide how we're going who we're going to donate to. In the past, we've donated to Zoe's the Hank County Senior Services Meals on Wheels in Cal Main Street. And in 2024 and 2025, we donated the same amounts for each of those years. It was 1,500 for the family senior services and Zoe's and then 3,000 for new street. So, we just again need to find out who we're going to donate to and how much.

How much should we donate to Main Street? for

So are we on a time crunch? Is there something timesensitive related to this? We I attached in there it was a letter from the place asking or saying if we were going to contribute some type of donation and the amount that they included was 1,500. So we have received that correspondence from them but we haven't really discussed They sent us a letter requesting that or just acknowledging that that's what we've done in the past like a tax document. Thank you for your donation. We appreciate it. As a reminder, we want it more. Yeah, I send those letters. I get it.

And for Summerfest, they start planning now. And you know, get letting these people know what we're going to send them might be helpful for them. My my only my only comment related to timing or my question related to timing was, you know, with this item on our budget, you know, does does council want to consider or do a little bit of research into other organizations that may benefit? Zoe's Place is an absolute blessing to our community. They work well with our police. They they meet the needs of families and individuals, especially children, in some of the most despicable and desperate moments of of their life. And so I have no problem um supporting organizations that directly support our community, but I'm my curiosity is are there others that we'd want to consider? Um and I don't have that information right in front of me tonight. And so I would wonder if that's something we could take up at our next meeting.

Well, let me ask the 1500 was to Zoe's Place and the other 1500 was that to Hancock County Senior Senior Services? And there's in our budget, we've got two pools of money. Yeah. Could we go over those again? Yeah. 6,000 for community support and 7,500 for community events and health. What did the 7500 go to last year? Did we use that at all? I think that's what we talked about the last year when we talked about these topics before. You raised it.

We raised it to allow for continuation of what we were doing then. but to create a different pool of money that would allow us to ad hoc, if you will, or explore other opportunities to increase our outreach. Have we received any letters from anybody else requesting donations? Not that I'm aware, just kind of spurred the topic.

And it's pretty early in the year generally. You know, come early summer, you get some more requests. Well, and and I I appreciate Ethan's thoughts. Um, but I I like to throw something out because I do kind of like the idea. Uh, you don't have to go a wholesale change 100%. Um, and you know, I don't I think Ethan is way too modest. He won't bring this up, but I will. I would like for us to consider giving 3,000 to Main Street, 1,500 to Zoe's Place, and the other 1,500 we kind of cycle it. And I I think that I would like to support the Comfort House. And that is a house for folks that don't have permanent residence. It's transitional. um it's temporary, but it fills a need that is so desperately there. There could be a hundred of them and it would be full. So, and again, I know that you weren't going to bring that up. Um but I will because I think that that's a notable charity. And then again, each year maybe we consider different charities. don't always have to get to the same, but I certainly continue supporting Main Street and Zoe's place at the levels we did prior years. Makes sense, but I like the idea of adding in someone new as well. So, I'll make that motion.

I'm fine with that. Does it die for a lack of a second? Well, who is the third one again? Can you say it again? Comfort House. Comfort House. I'll second that. All right. Motion made by Bill to donate $1,500 to Zoe's Place, $1,500 to Comfort House, and $3,000 to Main Street. And it was seconded by Ryan. Further conversation?

I would just ask for a friendly amendment that maybe those get separated out into individual donations. Can we separate them into three motions or even two motions? But with when it comes to the comfort house because of my connection to that, I would abstain from from that vote. Just abstain completely and it'll be okay. It'll be four to one. Well, it won't be one. It'll be ab I will not voting against 4001 or whatever. Well, the same I'm I'm okay with that. I want to go on record saying that I certainly do. Let me amend my motion because certainly I don't want to preclude you from being before you go there. Yeah,

I know the executive director of Zoe's Place. I think she's a fabulous person. Make sure that got on the record, but uh it's also my wife, too. So, understanding what what Ethan is talking about, like I think when we live in a town and are as involved as we all are, there's going to be those those conflicts of interest, if you will. Um, but I think even even if you or I abstain, right, it still can hit a majority and go without breaking it up if we will. If not, then maybe we need to look to break it up.

I I'm I'm fine. I would just um in the midst of the minutes um express my support for Main Street and Zoe's place, but will be abstaining due to the involvement of the Comfort House in the motion. Okay, understood. Okay. But if there's a preference to have three motions, I can probably make three motions, but I don't think it's necessary. I don't have a preference. All right. All those in favor say I. I. I. Anyone who wants to abstain, me.

Me as well. Um, the motion still passes. Uh, even though Ethan and I still support all three of those great organizations. And I apologize. I wasn't trying to put you 100%. No, it's fine. It's fine. I appreciate it. Um the the exciting part though is we still have a a different pool of money earmarked for additional things that we may see fit. If anybody here or in the community thinks that we should support or could support, please bring that to us um obviously ahead of time so we can read through it and do all of our due diligence. We'd really appreciate that. All right, moving on to the pub. Mark and Penny Hilbr. Is that where we're moving on to the pub? Like, are we relocating? Moving to the pub.

Well, we're gonna do some things first, but then Okay.

Thank you. Thank you. in. Yes.

Um we're asking last year we did a house. So we're going back to ask for permission again a little more time to actually prepare this year a little better. Uh last year we didn't have any complaints as we we won't but we hope to continue to make it better and safer. Uh our KPI is a drawn out map and we've already asked the ATC alcohol to back commission for permission. Um it has already been approved through them. Um this will be roped off at the back of the parking lot. You guys can see represent our house there. The tent will be in the back. All this will be roped off where no cars can get to it. Uh and it's also safe for property. There's one way in all roped off. I don't know. I didn't question what the city is for. I believe it's We're and so of course we're aware that we are surrounded by um I want to say it was 11 last year I don't remember but we stopped at that if it's not we don't have problem earlier and neighbors kind of enjoyed it last year we were going to this year we are staff 16 people staff measure parking lot trash and I are there the whole time. We do not open and closed that day and make sure that everything goes the way to go. Don't have problem. Um, I made a little fun little and over. We still want people to be able to come

in and have dinner outside everything. So you guys are asking approval to to have this once again and you already have approval from um this is make sure chief any issues with that 10 o'clock.

So what are we approving? Does it require approval or is this just them being super sweet and making sure that we're on board and all never been told that? And maybe the live band outside might need approval. Is this Has anything changed from last year? This looks exactly like last year. A little bit different on this one.

Are you going to have people out there help assisting with parking. Yes. public make sure not allow that happens and so make sure everybody knows as well.

Is there a capacity or shut off for this? You guys have inside there's capacity outside. I went last year. I think it was a great time. Um, is there any issues with the parking? I mean, I don't think we're using it on Saturday at that time. What is the date of the event? I can get you a copy of this, but it's Saturday, March 14th.

Okay. Well, and I'll say this, the fact that we don't have anybody here this evening to speak against it speaks volume. Um, because there were several households very very very close to the pub who for years had nothing but complaints and problems with the pub. And I think it was last year the crop Eric Crop was here to speak in favor of this which just speaks volumes of the change and how well you're working with the neighbors. Um because we haven't had a complaint since you've taken over. So uh needless to say I'm 100% in favor of this neighbor as well. I'll make a motion we allow the pub to have their St. Patty's Day party on March 14th, Saturday.

I'll second. Motion made by Ryan, second by Terry. Any further discussion? All in favor say I. I. Opposed? Thank you.

Thank you. All right, moving on to continued council conversations. Um, we've got two that we've been talking about the past couple weeks. First one's employee evaluations. I didn't see any further push back on any of that. I think what we talked about was creating kind of a standard on how to do that. I think what makes sense to me is May and November. I think it kind of gets before the uh holiday time frame. Um we can pick dates. Theif the 15th usually is is easy, but I don't have passion one way or the other. So I kind of would open it to council and department heads of what they think. The only thing that I would ask of our department heads and the the rhythm does is May the right time prior to budgeting.

That's fine. Does that give you enough time to say an evaluative period before you have to have your numbers in or close enough to your numbers? I would say yes. I'm good with it. May because we we you have departments put submit their budgets. What month? July is when we start budgeting. So we have to have June finished up in order to know what we you know where we are at six months. So sorry.

I think what Ethan's getting to is we've talked a lot about merit, you know, tying this to merit increases, right? And the best way to do that is you'd almost end it. You know what I mean? And we can decide what's a midyear and what's end of year, however we want to do it. Or the the midyear can drive that conversation, I think, is what what you're getting to is if we did the midyear or we considered this the end of year review and tied that to merit increases. Is that enough time before budgets have to be presented and approved? Is that kind of where you're going?

Yeah. I just want to make sure it's not too soon or too late to be considered in a reasonable amount of time for our budgeting cycle because I think that's that's part of the conversation is is the the work and the conversations you guys do which is usually June, right? We start in July on budgets. So if we were good. So I think perfectly fine.

I think the other thing that I would ask is that we share those with the council so that we can keep track of it. I think the exciting part there is to see who's doing really well to see who may need some help from us. Um I don't know if we want to designate a way to do that. We can talk through that. Again, it doesn't have to be anything, but if everybody's good with the form, we can, you know, say, "Okay, here's the form we're going to use. If there needs to be additions or subtractions made, I don't think anybody's opposed to working as a group to do that." I think we've done really well with that already. Personally, I think, you know, we talk on a daily basis and if there's something that's not going well, we adjust it as we go along. So, I, you know, an evaluation in my opinion for my team is more of a, you know, just a piece of paper to notify, noted on, but other than that,

it's always good till it goes bad. And then when it goes bad, Yeah. paper, it's like, well, have you talked to them about this before? you know, we're not probably as corporate as as I'm used to, but usually there has to be a paper trail for that. But the other thing is like acknowledging people who are doing really well as well, right? And then also providing room for improvement and goals. I think it's it's an awesome opportunity to reflect on um their performance. There's a lot more to it, but that's the most important.

Yeah. I I think the other thing is as we're going through this like letting the employees know like hey we're open to feedback on the form. Do they feel comfortable providing because I think in the form there's a piece for them to put remarks at the end. Um and if not like do they want to meet with us? What's that look like? I don't p foresee that being an issue but um just opening that up as well. Well, my assumption that the um it would almost fall under the the council's responsibility for the evaluation for Jim, right?

Yeah. I mean, really for department heads other than Yvon because everybody gets to vote on Yvon. Yeah. But I I know that Jim, you know, Jim speaks to some of that as well. So, does does Jim I'm just curious chartwise, Mr. Corporate? Does Jim does Jim do the evaluations for department heads and Jim's evaluation is our responsibility or is all department heads our responsibility? I would assume that all department heads are our responsibility. Okay. I just want to make sure. I don't think I think we've talked about this before of having a clear org chart of how that works out. Clear as Got it. Um

are you looking to Zach? No, I'm No, he's looking I mean I'm I'm interpret who he's looking toward, but yeah. Well, I'm thinking and asking for help, but um yeah, I mean, in my in my eyes, I think it it would get muddy if you say I mean, these are all of our employees, but I'm just going to use names. Hey, Chief has a different skill set than Jim. If Jim is saying, hey, is that is it is it a conflict if he's evaluating If don't don't overthink it. I promise you chief has a different skill set than me, too.

I agree. I'm saying does it is it too much? I just think department heads we can do. That's fine. I'm not worried about it. When we're talking about this, I just want to have some plan. Yeah. Yeah. So that everybody knows who's evaluating whom. Ethan's going to do the initial evaluations. I got y'all on department heads and that'll be exciting. I uh can't be bought so Let's have conversations. If you give him access to the speed sign without me, 100%. Who does have access to the speed? Street department. Um, actually everybody, I just know just one. It's just J.

There needs to be accountability there. I'm happy to serve as an accountability partner. Yeah. For the speed. For the record, I've said this before. Under no circumstances should I have access to the sign. Duly noted. Yeah, we know that. All right. So, I think that's a good framework to get going and we can obviously adjust if we need to. All right. All right. Moving on to employee benefits. Brian, does everybody still have their handouts I gave them last meeting? Yes, sir.

Did everybody have a chance to look at? So, I'll just kind of go over some of the information I shared with you and kind of my thought process on it. In the past, I've worked at uh I've been employed at places that that gave me an annual clothing allowance. It it's not much uh to me. Uh it meant a lot though. Uh when I worked for the city of Greenfield, I had one. I wor you know, worked outside, worked at sewer plant, um you know, worked out on the road. Uh I got $75. I believe it was $75 a year back then. It was a long time ago. But um as somebody who works outside, you know, the highway department when I was uh out on the paper, I would go through a pair of boots every year. Uh you go through bibs, cars, coats, you know, all kinds of stuff. Um, I think it would be a very small cost on the town's side to um give some sort of clothing allowance uh that would be reimburseable uh by a receipt that was turned in um to to put towards uh if the the street guys or you know sewer guys or basically any full-time employee. And here's where I I had some some time to think about this in between. You know, I guess you could do a some kind of allowance for a part-time employee, too. My my kind of ultimate goal here looking towards the future is once we get a logo, if we ever get one, um is to take that logo and um you know, let the let the town employees wear a wear a polo or t-shirt with that town logo on it. And my kind of thought process behind this is is um you know if you you give the employees a this little bit of a a bonus in my mind, you know, because you have to go buy a $100 coat to stand outside to do your job, um you know, getting 75 bucks of that back is means something. But if everybody ends up wearing these shirts with the town logos

on them, um and you know, while they're out in town working or talking to to people or or you know, however that may be, I think that's a good look on the town. even if the ladies in the office are are wearing a polo with the town logo on, I think that's a good look. Um, but to be able to give them the opportunity to give them a little allowance to do that, I like the idea of it. Um, the amount can change. I know it's a little extra work on Yavon's part or Jenny's part um to have an employee turn in a receipt and say, "Okay, you you bought a pair of work boots this year. Um, you know, we're going to reimburse you $75 of that." Um, you know, we can talk about the difficulties on that. I know I I don't I don't I don't think she's real excited about that, but that

No. And I'll tell you why. Because we did not doubt you were going to ABV. I mean, it just takes a bunch of time. So, in that case, if that's how you want to do it, I would say buy a box of polos and give everybody a polo and that's one receipt and we're good, right? Um, and if you want to do specific for job the job clothing, I get that. But can we in that case do it in one month the year so we get all the receipts at the same general time so that we can process easier if we just made the purchase. Yeah.

Okay. So, let me ask some clarifying questions. The one piece is is 75 per person. I think it's going to be different um depending on what your job is, right? So, well, that's why that's why I did an amount, you know, cuz maybe you need a coat this year, but I don't. Or maybe I would say, you know what I mean?

Yeah. I would say to me it would be like, okay, you know, if you're, you know, office staff and we can designate who's office staff and who's not. I think it's pretty easy. The police department's already covered, so I don't think there's anything we need to do there. We could say, "Hey, everybody uh every employee gets a polo or t-shirt or one of each every year, right?" And then that way they can build their wardrobe the longer they're here. We could change colors and that way we can start with yellow because it's my favorite color. It's the only one I can see. Um but like Kyle, Steve, for you guys, do do we cover anything right now? I should know this, but I don't.

Yep. And we I'm sure we buy your PPE, you know. I mean, we don't provide you a safety vest or gloves or anything. I buy. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's covered already. So, it's covered. The town pays for it though. Yeah. I do the same thing with the street. If I think he need a reflective jacket, I'll just go over and get it. buy what he needs.

Well, and and I hear what Ryan's saying, and Ivon's going to call me reckless, but I'm inclined to do both. I think that the town should order whether it's t-shirts, polos, sweatshirts, something with the logo, whatever that logo may be. Um, so that everybody that works here has something. And then I'm in favor of the $75 allowance on top of that because and there may be people that don't use it, but if you need a pair of steel toe boots or a different set of gloves or whatever, I I think the town should reimburse for that and happy to do so. I don't think we need to reimburse for it though.

You say pay for them and the town would pay for it. Yeah. And and if that's the way that that is without problem, then fantastic. And for the swag, which I'm all about. I mean, the swag is like order it one time, get one bill, do it one time, boom. And everybody should have that.

Yeah. And we should have some t-shirts or something for all the volunteers for the police golf fundraiser. So, this would kind of go right along with that. But doing it individually, I'm not a big fan of. and doing reimbursements. I'm not a big fan of. I'd rather than say, "Hey, uh, in this month of the year, you get a 75% stipent, use it for, you know, this or that." Or simply say, "Hey, when we need it, the the department head can, you know, order it." I mean, be easier to do a stipen for.

Is it easier just to like get Yeah, like you say, give them that stipen on a given month. Say, "This is your 75 bucks. go buy your clothes.

I don't care. Yeah. I mean, if if they don't need to spend it, they don't need to spend it. But if that I I like them to have that opportunity. However, we can work this out. This these are all just hypothetical like these are all just ideas, right? How can we how can we make things a little better? Um how can we we give back to the employees a little bit, but without the employees, we have nothing, right? And these are little things, you know, if you did 75 bucks by 10 people, that's not a lot of money. You know what I mean? and you're invested in your employee, you're helping out a little bit. So, however we can work this out, you know, whether we whether we buy them a coat, whether we say, "Okay, you have up to $100 to spend on a coat, we'll buy you a coat." However we do that, we can figure out the language on it.

I think safety equipment should simply be purchased by the town and a personal like or dislike would be, you know, a different story. A personal pair of boots or whatever be different. about your safety equipment. The town simply needs to pay for that. Well, your boots are part of your your uniform. Yeah. And I would encourage everybody to go to your department head and say, "Okay, hey, I need these." Whatever. Good. Yeah. Well, but more importantly, that you get what you need.

I think that's the spirit here. Ryan is saying we want to make sure that if you need something that you don't have to pay for it out of pocket. At least we can help a little bit because we do appreciate everything that's done. Is it is it possible to just include this type of a line item in their budgets for 2020 seven seven and just for all these departments they have x amount of dollars based on the employees and the department heads can manage it that way. I don't see why that wouldn't be possible. I like that idea. I think it'd be easier for you. Would that be easier, Gavon? Definitely. Okay.

We just instruct our department heads to take their number of employees that work in the field or whatever the recommendation or request and add a new line item to represent some.

Well, let's do that then. Moving on. Uh vacation and sick leave. Uh this is another thing that this this isn't going to benefit people who burn their time, right? This only benefits people who are here, show up to work every day. Um, so you can see the um scale here of how you earn hours and how you carry hours over and all that stuff. Uh, basically what I did was it stopped at calendar year 14. Um, I'm going to base everything I'm going to make it try to make it simple and just make it base everything off the eligible vacation days, eight hour shift employees. We're going to use that one for simplicity. Uh it does adjust each one of the scale, you know, each one of these these columns here though. It stops at year 14. U it says maximum of 40 hours. Um but it goes up to 160 hours there, which is 20 days. I increase that. I I I increase that to 25 days or 200 hours. So that gives everybody an extra week. So um and then um sick time I believe let me see what I did here. Calendar year I increased that

calendar year you increased that the amount that somebody can roll over their sick time you increased from 20 to 30 days or your suggestion is correct. um on page 21 in the event uh you know the sick basically you could only roll over 20 days then after that you lose it.

Yeah. So I know from a a very close and personal standpoint if you have any kind of medical event and then you get sick later in the year um lack of a better term you're screwed right. So it only takes one major event to to really tank those days. Again, the people that burn their time a lot, it's not going to benefit them. The people that are here every day and are able to save their time and and you know, don't have a lot of issues, this is going to benefit them. But giving them 10 extra days or letting them accumulate 10 extra days in my mind um would help the employee out tremendously. Uh, I also changed if an employee is absent, it says for five or more consecutive days due to an ill an illness or injury efficienced. I changed that to three and it says may be provided or may be requested. So, um, I've never worked anywhere where you could miss more than three days without somebody calling you and saying, "Hey, why you've been gone more than three days consecutively sick?" Um, not to say that as said it says may be requested. So if somebody if a department head's feeling that their employee is just burning time to burn time or abusing it, then then they can request that. I was about to say they have to, but

so to to clarify, in order for someone, and I'm just trying to make sure I'm reading this correctly, currently, in order for our employees to even acrewue 30 days, they have to be here for six year or five years with no illnesses, right? Because they can get up to six a day a year and carry over. So, yeah, those have got to accumulate. So in order for them to accumulate 30 does anybody have 30 days? We don't know. 20.

So in order to accumulate what I'm what I'm saying though is just I mean these aren't employees that are going to be able to these are employees that have been here for a while to acrew to acrew that many sick days. you know, the the earliest you could roll over 30 days would be, you know, correct. So, so to me that that gives you some incentive to longevity, right? Right. We appreciate you being here 10 years and not and showing up to work every day. Right. And chances are if you've been here 10 years, you've got a little age on you. So, you may need you may need those shade.

No, no, I'm not. I'm being realistic. you may need those extra days for doctor's appointments, uh, what have you. Right. So, again, this isn't benefiting the the person who's going to burn a lot of time. This is been trying to throw a little um, yeah, insurance long longevity for for the employees that show up every day and and stick it out with us. Right. Currently, who's tracking attendance? Chief is for everybody. Jim. Jim does Jim does everybody else. Bob and Jim

I keep a time sheet but I also separate spreadsheets to show all my officers personal time and I tell you right now guys it's almost penalty for extra time if you don't use your time. So you got very good employees come in every day even But they happen.

Well, in in my mind, too, that it's important to take off. It's important for your mental health. In my mind, have an employee that that comes to work every day and has a good mental attitude um is is a good employee. Are mental health covered under our sick days? I mean, if you need if you need to take if you need to take a sick day off or to Yeah. Then then you need a sanity take it. Well, what I'm saying is if we're going

I I feel like mental health is a big issue in our community, but right now the way that our this le this reads doesn't leave I mean it it leaves room that you feel like hey I want to take a mental health day but it specifically says illness and injury I mean no sickness why don't we just put mental health in there if we're going to include mental health into the sickly benefits it should be in there. Did you really mean it like that? I just think

I didn't I didn't mean I didn't mean u you know if if you want to take a sick day because you don't feel right call it what call it a mental health day called a sick day. I don't I I'm not trying to label it a mental health day. I'm saying it's it's good mental health to have a break from work, right? Uh I wasn't trying to label as a mental health day personally. Um it's it's to me it's it's good mental health to have a break from work and have that separation u and then be able to come back to work with a good mental attitude.

Yeah. Which is why we have personal days. I I mean all I'm saying is mental health is something that a lot of organizations are talking about. So I just want to define what we're what we mean by sick days versus personal days versus the other days. There's lots. What about the concept of getting away completely with sick days, vacation days, personal days, and just call it PTO, paid time off, and that way it doesn't matter what the reason is if it's a dentist appointment or I just want to go walk in the park. So, we recently did that. We recently changed all of our days into a PTO bank. Mhm.

I don't know the complexities of how the town would deal with that. Uh I think boy that'd be a I like the idea, but I don't know how that would mathematical in my business. I have miscellaneous paytime off. You don't have to tell me why you need a day off. If you need a day off, whether you go on vacation or whether you're sick or But no, it's not an EFR business unless you're Do we have any six-hour? Yes. employees the office staff is six hours

in my in in my job we have what PTO and short notice days off so our policy is you know the PTO days have to have so many advanced notice but short notice notice days off are restricted amount before you get penalized in some way shape or form because those are more like sick days and that's how this was set up too your personal days or short notice days we've kind of you Um, I think though nobody really uses it as such loosey goosey loosey goosey. That's okay.

Um, but I think this whole idea of letting people roll over up to 30 days is just a non-issue. That's an, you know, a pretty easy and simple change to make. And I think that for your uh employees that are dedicated and show up, I think it just might be a very nice thing to be able to roll over 30 days rather than 20 days. And you know, if people use those sick days regularly, it doesn't matter whether it's 20 or 30. They're going to, you know, use them as they need to. So on here are six-hour employees. Um calendar year 15 plus it went from 120 hours to 160 hours. 8 hours uh went from 160 hours to 200 hours. And 12 hour shift employees went from 192 hours to 240 hours.

How did those scale for you? because I guess that's where I have my most my most questions is related to the scale that you're using because once you hit 15 you basically give both six hour and 8 hour employers an entire the same amount that you get them both 40 hours and a whole extra week off but it takes 14 years to get to four weeks and once you hit 15 you get an extra week. So I just used the the same scale that they had and just added the 15 years plus at the end of No, I see that. But your jump from like year 13 to year 14, right? That's six hours. And and for year 15, you jumped from 120 to 160. So you jumped 40 hours in that one year.

The math isn't quite So I'm just wondering your scale like you see what I'm saying? Yeah. So yeah. So I jumped 40 hours on this one, 40 hours on this one. Am I right there? Well, you jumped 40 Well, no, but you jumped you jumped 40 hours in both of those. Is but the scale is maybe from left to right the same, but not from up to down. Yeah. Yeah. I I 40. But Right. But here you're you're gaining one day. Um I think I guess basically because if you've been here 15 plus years do you need to work another five years? Do you need to work to 20 years to where

this table is confusing as hell and a lot of work and I'm sure if we could simplify this everybody be happy. My comment is it takes a long time to start racking up, but then it sure does gets quick on the back end, but really I mean you work here for four years and feel free to work it however you want. This is what was in place when I came on board. I've not ever changed anything on it to be honest with you. I've rarely studied it. Would it make would it make it easier? Could we could we just switch everything to PTO hours? You can. I you you can do whatever you want. You're the town council.

You were going to say that. Why don't we do this? Why Why don't we make a proposal? Change this. Send it out. Let's look at it some more and let's table it again for the next meeting and discuss it some more. I know you sent this out and I was prepared, but what I wasn't prepared for is what what way we could go to think about it. I thought about just your questions, not

I think the reason I jumped on that scale was because where I'm at it once you get to a certain year. It just kind of maxes it just kind of maxes out, right? It just kind of jumps in like you earn your extra time and that it is what it is. You're just maxed out from there. And I didn't feel like it, you know, I mean after 14 years if you got to be careful. How many vacation do you get? Well, we switched over to PTO. It it would have been five, but we switched over everything over to PTO banks. So, how many PTO bank how many days do you get for PTO? I have a bunch. So, I just I just burned 120 hours and I still have 380 hours left.

Holy. But so, but the hard part though is if they carry Yeah. If they carry 160 hours and then say you're year 16, you carry 160, you got 200 more coming. Like we're talking about somebody being gone for two months, over two months before you get into the other pieces. Well, and it it there is a maximum you're allowed to carry it over here, right? So it does Where's the maximum? Oh, it's you don't carry your vacation time. You can't I mean on what you can get. Yeah. But I mean as far as paid out. Yeah. Take it off. Yeah. I get

Yeah. So, it's not like somebody's going to leave here and you're going to pay him for um you know 250 hours because it it you know we're going to have to look at that. If we are you employment law we have very I'm sorry. Well, if we let somebody go, are we then responsible for their unused vacation? No, we clear we clearly state that in this. So, we I get it. We clearly state that in this, but that's different than legal. Oh, you No, no, no. That's all it's our handbook. It's our employee handbook's all been legally vetted. Yeah. And we have a company that gives us really good advice. Yeah. Okay. We don't just

Hey, as long as we're covered and and we're thinking all the pieces, I'm good. But I do think we could spend some time and asking ourselves if we were going to rebuild this, what would it look like? Ivonne, can I volunteer if you could send me this in a word format? And I know at one point there was an an absolute war over getting our No, no, no. I have it in word for format. I will take a shot at trying to come up with the concept of PTO hours. I'll redline any change. I promise not to put any crazy provisions in there like I might have done once before based on previous.

We we won't do that to a desktop. Well, we we had some crazy provisions in our handbook that we don't anymore. We don't. Um, but we can toss it around. Let's just kind of think through this a little bit. Volunteer to take the first step at trying to come up with the PTO concept and and so that at our next meeting, you'll have copies in advance, redlinined. Perfect. It'll help the the conversation. So, I took the complicated route, but basically all I'm trying to do is give an incentive get give incentives to the employee to stick it out with us and stay here and trying to make it a little better. I think that's all I'm trying to do. What I'm hearing from everybody is we're on board. Yeah.

We just want to either clarify it or make it easier. Word smithing. Just make it easier because I would like to give people 3 weeks vacation before year nine. But we can talk through what that looks like. So we uh what I believe we're going to do is table this. Correct. Fantastic. I make a motion we table this until if it interests the council. We do have a partner uh that practices employment law and we have brought him in with other municipal clients to um kind of overhaul their uh PTO. just get a copy of where he's got a contract in place. Let's see. I I would be happy to connect you all with him if that's something contract in place. But

yeah, yeah, we we have this contract with folks that um do a very good job. Yeah, they created the handbook. They said it that everything goes through legal. Um it gets regularly updated. See all my little green? Those are all the things that need like St. Patrick's Day tabs. Good to know we have that resource though. It is there. You're welcome. Appreciate it. Yes. So, there's a motion on the table from Terry to table this. I'll second that. We have a lot of tableling motion. Any continued conversation? How do we table continued? Can't we just continue continued conversations? You don't have to move on that because it's just a conversation. We're continuing it.

Then I'm approving the motion because I can do that. Legal updates. I don't think you can do that, but go ahead. Sure. Nothing beyond what? Well, there's one thing. Uh we had a plan commission meeting earlier this evening, there is a desire to amend the zoning ordinance. Uh after they do so, uh which includes a public hearing. It will come to the town council for ultimate approval. So, uh that is set for March 18th. So, look for that um after that date.

I'll get the guy who wrote it on his typewriter to send it to us so that we can look at it before. That would be helpful. Okay. All right. Uh, department reports. We got a lot. Um, let's talk to Kyle. Yeah, Kyle, we'll let you go first. What do you got?

Uh, the department has us to go look for a sewer, shop truck, crane truck. We went Friday to a couple different dealerships. found a few on a lot. We figured we'd have to build six months. There's one that we found in Fishers. We were not really interested in the one we found in Planefield. There's 1200 crane. Um we very have a quote from for 175. They took some money off of it again last night or this morning. So, I think that's 800 bucks to get rid of.

So, if we wait till tomorrow morning, it might be gone.

Oh, so I I will speak on this. I do know a little bit about these trucks. We just purchased one three years ago. Uh a bucket truck and I believe it was around 155 and that was three years ago. It was basically this truck except uh it didn't have a crane. It had a bucket on it. Uh reading bed. This is they they build uh good beds. This is a this is a nice truck. Um it's well equipped. It's it's uh more than capable of lifting the pumps and doing the services that we need to do. Uh and if we upgrade pumps, it's also capable of lifting those pumps. So, it's uh it's very well equipped. Um you know, I would I would say if you were going to own an excavating company, you would need an excavator. If you're going to run a wastewater plant, you need a service truck to to service that. This is a I think this is right up our alley. I think the price is right on this compared to what uh was paid three years ago for a truck that I'm very well familiar with. Um I think it's I think it's a good purchase.

Can Ethan drive it? Nope. Driver with the insurance company. Can I be put on the driver's insurance? Can I um I have Why are you being such a killjoy tonight? Can I ask Steve? You may have mentioned this. How many quotes were received? Was it just one? That's what I was about to ask. Three. We had three. I've been working on some other We did have three. Okay. And this line. As long as we got three. As long as you got three. If it's over 50,000, three quotes. Yeah. If you only had one respond, that's good. You actually looked at four trucks, right? I looked at Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

And we've budgeted for this. So,

and yeah, I can speak on that if you'd like me to. Um, my plan and K talked about this. I've also run this by Jarrett would be to pay 50% of it from wastewater and 50% would come from the lit economic development fund in which we had budgeted money for this vehicle and we had budgeted for the whole amount to be paid out of that. But I have a slightly different plan because since fifth since since it's mainly going to be used by wastewater and a portion of it should come out of the wastewater funds which we have the funds in the operating budget for that it's not a problem. So if we split it 5050 that'll work for both the budget and for the wastewater utility operating fund. So, let me ask. So, if there was an unforeseen emergency, can we take money from the lit fund and transfer it to wastewater?

Well, you can't just transfer it. But because I'm concerned because in the budget, we budgeted the truck 100% under lit and I'm sensitive to taking money out of wastewater in case if something broke. How do we get money from other funds? If we've taken money out for the truck if what breaks something at the wastewater plant that will be paid for by wastewater if something comes right but and I don't know how deep that budget is. Well,

if we take half the truck out of wastewater then we're taking that much away from wastewater. you have a healthy operating budget in that um I don't know that you need to be concerned necessarily about that if there's a major breakdown in wastewater we have a specific fund u for that that is aside from the operating budget and why would we have budgeted the full amount of the truck in lit when we budgeted it

well in just a back and Bob will speak and then I will speak to that and then the whole picture will come a little bit clearer. I know that sounds kind of silly but okay. So Bob also needs Let's just do that. Let's just do that. Bob, go. Yeah, go ahead. Help us out. We also need Nope.

All right. Well, that was quick. Um, so my goal is, so we have budgeted 55,000 from lit public safety for police pursuit vehicles. We're going to use that. We're also going to use 27% or $27,000 from the lit economic development that we've already paid portion of the truck out of as well. Um, we're going to pay for the lights and siren package. $20,000 is already budgeted in let public safety. We're going to use that and then we'll need another I'm estimating high on this another $20,000. We can take that from CCD that's already budgeted as well. I don't know this makes no sense to people that don't deal with the budget regularly, but I can explain further if you want to. This what this will do is this will leave 83,000 into lit economic development should we need another vehicle or another um capital expense type purchase. Okay. So you have you had budgeted 200,000 in the lit economic development for the truck. We're using 90,000 of that for the wastewater truck. We're using 27,000 of that for the police pursuit vehicles. That leaves $83,000 in case we have another need for something big like that.

What's the police? What what So we've already approved that and we're spending that on this vehicle that we've recently approved or is this new thing? What is this? Is two new vehicles that chief has requested.

But we budgeted for those. We budgeted for that and that's what I'm telling you where it's coming from in the budget. So you have budget in different places for these vehicles. But since the truck that Kyle's getting is mainly used by wastewater, that money really should not come from your taxpayers money. It should come from the waste water people paying their monthly bills. So if we split it 5050 it is I'm sorry they're taxpayers too. They are taxpayers too but the money the funds are used and brought in in a different manner.

You said that was going to clear it up. It didn't clear it didn't clear it up for me. I've written it all out. I can draw you a picture. I mean I just I've got it figured out. I ran it by Jared and we're all good. And Jenny said it was okay. It's okay too. Is that good enough? But we've already budgeted for it in lit. They want they want to spend lit on other things too. That's the problem as an emergency. So they want more of a buffer and lit so they don't Can I ask a couple of the 200,000? How much is budgeted and lit? I disagree. And lit 200,000 and that is for what? Vehicles. Vehicles. All the vehicles we're talking about

vehicles. Okay. So, of that 200,000, how much are we talking about spending? 90,000 for the the F600. Okay. And 2700 towards 27,000. I'm sorry. 90,000 and 27,000 for the police. We can do it for So, the 20 27,000 police to the police. Okay. I thought that I thought in lit it said 200,000 truck. Yeah, a track of vehicle. So, not it wasn't generic vehicles. It was truck. So, that's 83 left there. But 27 does. Hold on.

27 doesn't pay for to no. The other 55,000 comes from the lit public safety that's already budgeted for a vehicle which is budgeted for 55. Uhhuh. Which we're going to use that complete budget for that. Yes. And then you also have 30,000 budgeted for a police vehicle in the CCD fund which we're going to use about 20,000 and that would leave 10,000 in there. What I'm looking for is to leave a little buffer in the budget where we can I'm tracking what you're doing. Can I use this 83,000 in lit if I need to for wastewater?

No. That's where I'm at. I I get it. I trying to If you swing for the need What do you think you're What do you What would you need it for? Like a new pump or something? I don't know. There's there's I'm trying to answer his question, but if there's money in wastewater for that should you need a new pump, which is Yeah. Reminder saying they carry a pretty healthy operating fund. Yes,

there's an operating fund. There's also a fund specifically for the significant repairs like that. What this does, it gives you since it's just February, I don't want to deplete the full budgeted amount, especially not since it's specifically used for a vehicle that is 90% of the time or 95% of the time going to be used for the funds need to be paid for. If we have a police cruiser get crashed and we have to replace it, we have insurance. Hopefully there's insurance. A you're going to have insurance.

I I understand that. But that 83,000 could be used to replace a police vehicle. And that's why I want to leave some of that in the budget because you don't know what because there wouldn't be there wouldn't be money to replace a police vehicle if in lit public safety because that account would be too low. There's money left in lit public safety. Not enough to replace a police vehicle. Not if we take it all for a big waste water. You're worried about a wastewater problem, but what he's calling out is if you have any other problem. Yeah. So, it seems like the wastewater has a a bigger healthier operating budget. It could absorb that. It could absorb that. Yes.

The anything else can't. I guess is your tax money. The lit is not I guess that's the way I'm looking at it. I mean, I I see both sides of it.

I'm trying to make it so that being that it's February, if we have a police pursued vehicle that gets crashed and we get partially paid by insurance, but we need to replace it with a whole new vehicle. There is money in lit in order to do that. We can we have money available. It's just February. If this was December and we'd buy a truck and we'd have $200,000 sitting in that fund available for it, I would say, "Okay, we can use that." But being that this is February, we got to make all this money last the whole year.

It It makes sense to me with the analogy she just used. If it was November, December, you know what I mean? I wouldn't worry about it. But it does make me a little reserved um about spending all 200k on the truck and the truck only and depleting that account and not having anything in it. Even though we budgeted for it, I understand that. But split is a very This is a little more creative way to do it. So it leaves us at gives you flexibility that you need. It gives us all flexibility that we may need. Oh, I'm more I want you to have a flexibility.

Okay. Thank you. Lit. Paying for sewer utility infrastructure is covered. I see 6-3.6-6-9. Just stealing my job here. Dang, bro. Google, bro. All right. So, so what what we're 67? No, I wish I would have done that. Um, so to to bring us all back together here, two police cruisers. I imagine they're Taho. Dodge Durango, which are which are financially a better option. Okay. Between two of 50,000

and we've already ordered these or you want to order these? No, they're on hold on the lot because you are proposing that we buy them. right now. How many cars do we currently have? Two in the shop. Are we trading any in? Yes. So, this this is actually a great time to talk about this. This is something that we need to kind of get a grasp on uh as far as an equipment list on what what the town owns and getting on some kind of replacement schedule. That's why it's in the budget. We talked about this.

Yeah. Uh, I mean, you know, street department, sewer department, these are things that we need to be conscious of. Granted, this council, you know, it's four years and now, right? Unless you run another four years. So, these are things that we need to, you know, there the the baton's going to have to be carried by the next councils to make this work. But, we're going to, you know, we can't replace trucks every year or at the same time because they're going to get on that same cycle again. I mean, we are. Well, it's because we need we need to adjust that going into we wait. We waited, right? It was two years ago. We we needed three. Yeah. And we said we need to spread them out. Yes.

So, but with some careful planning, that's all possible. We planned for this. This year, this is all a good solid idea. Yeah. You'll just have to approve it. And if you disagree, let me know. So, how many cars do we have besides the We have two in the shop. One for each. Two are in the shop.

Two. Sorry. active vehicles of which you're getting rid of. 11 total. And how many officers are we up to? How many officers? We have nine.

I think you have nine active vehicles and you have two pool vehicles. One of which you're going to trade in. Are you going to purchase two new ones? So, you're still going to have 11. So, we're going to have 13. No, I don't know. You guys keep saying numbers. I don't think you know how many vehicles we have. I think there's a reason you sit over there and the numbers are over here. All right. 11. They need four hands back there to count all of them. Raid only has seven. So, you can have 12. cops for a reason. Take your shoes off. Take your shoes off. We got time.

This is the longest meeting we've ever had. So, you might as well have them all counted out together. There is no need to rush now. I think it's all said. Yes. Oh my. That's including yours. Yes. That's Yeah, that's about Can I borrow one on weekends? How many do you have? How many two? This will make three.

So So we can put that in a little bit. So I would propose to keep that truck. It's pre-deaf. Um, which is a bonus. And I believe the street department could probably use it to use to help pull signs or, you know, just whatever they need it for. It floater truck. It's just still a good running truck. It's got And the trade value is lousy. What's that? The tradein value is lousy. Yeah. $2,500. We'll keep it for that. So, and we can use it as a plow truck. Yeah.

So, it's it's smart to keep that truck. So, you're gonna you're going to end if this is approved, you'll end with three trucks or four trucks. Okay. Well, I'm going to go just jump right off the diving board. I'll make a motion that we purchase the truck, we purchase the two police vehicles, and I'm going to leave the budgets and line items and funds 100% up to Ivon. You rock. That's my motion. They're going to be counting for a hot minute.

All right. Phil made a motion to approve the F600 the two police vehicles and associated equipment with those. I'll second. So, Bill made the motion. Ryan seconded that motion. Is there any more discussion? I do have a question. Fine. I will I'll do the I'll I'll look at something else. I won't ask. We can move forward. No, ask a question. No, I'm good. We're here. Were you Were you saying that just to No, no. My curiosity was what is what is the the standard for is it I mean we got nine officers is 12 cars standard for nine officers.

Yeah. I said right now two of insurance policy have backup. All right. I would strategically place the empty backups along Main Street. No, we need to put them over in the neighborhood up at Copperstone. Put one in my driveway. Put one where people speed. Move on. All those in favor say I. I. Fine. I. And all those opposed. All right. Yes. Please move forward with the proposal that we just talked about and put me on the insurance. Just go ahead and do that preemptively.

We'll see what Chief, you've got anything else? No.

First off, pass for our training program. He is scheduled to go May 2026 to the police academy for 16 weeks. Yes.

Spread your wings. Uh so one thing I did I sent emails everybody about possibility of adding additional K9 to the program and this would be done at a very discounted rate for us. One of our officers currently has a K9 certified dog. He cameo running his dog work back in service. So we have an agreement for a dollar a year. We'll pay him to use his dog. The only thing is we will be responsible for health insurance the dog food. So really it's a win for town and it's another K9 on the street for us on ship offic. So all have the opportunity to have dog on their ship.

I would like to make a motion that we approve the additional of the K9 unit as presented in our materials by sheep. I'll second that. I'm giving this one to Terry. D. Motion made by Ethan, second by Terry. Further discussion. All those in favor say I. I. All right, that passed. You good? Mr. P. We're not going back to you, Bob. She already had her time. I don't have anything except for I'll sign that. Sorry, man. I should have signed it for you before I could let you go. You've won. I have something for Steve.

Um, street light on East North Street. Are you Is that you or is that Jim who does? Is it a Duke Energy Light? Okay. It's number 262 278. Is that the new one? That's not the new one. No, 278. 278. I already got it. Um, anybody can let Duke know. You just go on the Duke's website and you say light out and um, anybody in the world can say, "Hey, this light needs attention." And it'll get taken care of. Well, that street is totally dark right now. I mean, as of 11 o'clock last night,

we'll take care of it. Steve or Brenda or I It really could use another street light because it's a very dark street. That might be the tricky part, but getting getting the existing light. You want me to call them and try and get a new another one? I mean, no, I just pick them out and tell you. Um, thank you for putting the four-way sign, stop sign back up on Mill and Depot. I know that was knocked down. Um, that's all. Thank you. Dare I ask you, Von?

I know you may not want to. Um, I got the renewal for insurance um, in for liability, cyber, workers comp, just the whole package. Um, they actually didn't go up as much as I had anticipated. So, in one of all of my papers, I wrote down exactly how much we went up, but um, between 1% and 10% these things went up. and I've got the new bill and I'd like to unless you would like the insurance company to come and present to you what the costs are, which I don't think is necessary, but if you would like to, we'll have them come and speak. Um, otherwise, we'll go ahead and

Do you feel comfortable with it? Yeah, I do. I don't think it's there's anything out of line. The reason why some of it went up is we added another vehicle, a newer vehicle, and workers comp went up mainly based on added four vehicles. What are you saying? Now, we're adding a right now. He's slap happy. I'm trying to keep us moving. So, we're budgeted for this. Yes. No issues there. You're com you're comfortable with all these things. Okay, cool. Yes. Okay, that's all. I'm not going to ask what which fund. Insurance. Yeah, there's one insurance in the general fund. That takes care of it.

Yeah, workers comp went up, but not because we had issues. Workers comp went up because all our everybody Yep. Yeah. Everybody had a little increase. Yep. So, good thing we could buy them. Okay. So, you need an a motion to approve that. If you would like to. I'll make a motion that we approve that. I'll second. Bill and Ryan. All those in favor say I. I. Goodness. Anything else? You don't have to ask that. No. Ivon, you good? Okay. I'm sorry. You're good. I'm good. Nothing else.

Public comments. Anything. Five minutes. No. Sit. You can. He's He was joking. Joking. My name is

listen to you all the different days that protect it just an idea place. We just had mentioned his wife gave us even our council meeting statistical numbers what all going on. So I'm glad you're able to make the $1,500. I think the statistics probably all

thanks. Thank you. We have a capital asset program anytime you want to see that and we can print out reports. Jenny is the capital asset queen. Jenny is a capital asset. Yeah. Thank you. A small one. Council comments better not be long. No, it's not. I appreciate the uh the Duke light at Depot Street. I'm done. Okay. I have no comments. Bill.

Uh, keeping in a theme that I started at our last meeting, I want to congratulate the five state qualifiers from the high school wrestling team and wish them luck this weekend. Thank you, Terry. I want to wish uh Ethan happy birthday. He's the only one with a February birthday and I got him the big enough a big enough cake last year that should last less next four years. It's good. Yeah, it's still it like a wedding cake. I still got it. Yeah. Thank you. We should do that. That'd be fun. Ryan,

u happy birthday, Ethan. And I would like to send out thoughts and prayers to the uh Beach Grove officers that were involved in the incident uh couple days ago. Um just terrible situation. So that's all I have. I'll make a motion that we adjourn. Second. Motion made by Bill, seconded by Ethan. All those in favor say I. I. We are a journ.