City Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, April 6, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Casa Grande, AZ
Meeting Date
April 6, 2026

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2:17 – 2:440

Sorry about that. Didn't mean to be so loud. Um, good evening everyone. Thank you for being here this evening. We're going to go ahead and start um the meeting with an invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance and the invocation by Mayor Promillan. So if you please stand if you're willing and able and the invocation will be um presented by say Taha from the American Muslim family center. Thank you Mrs. Taha.

2:42 – 4:410

Good evening. I have the privilege of and honor to lead the prayers tonight. Let me take a minute to introduce myself first. I am say tha with American Muslim family center here in Eloy. There are about 20 million Muslims in the United States about two billion Muslims which is 25% of world population. We are the closest to Christianity in faith and sincerity. Believing in Jesus is an article of faith and every Muslim is not a Muslim unless we believe in Jesus. There is uh a chapter named after Mary, mother of Jesus and uh she's the only woman mentioned by name in the Quran. I will start my prayer in Arabic which is very close to what Jesus spoke in Aramaic. I had the privilege of visiting G where Jesus was born and where he ascended to heaven and also where Aramaic is spoken in Damascus Syria very close to Damascus. Alhamdulillah. Amen. In the name of Allah, the most gracious and merciful. Praise be God, Lord of the worlds, the most gracious and the most merciful. Master of the day of judgment, it is you we worship and upon you we call for help. Guide us to the straight path and the path of those you have blessed nor the path not the path against whom you have angered nor of those who are misguided. Almighty God, we thank you for the privilege of gathering here to serve your serve our community. Grant us wisdom in our decisions, compassion in our discussion and integrity in our actions. May we seek the common good above personal interest. May our work today bring peace, justice, and prosperity to all who call the city of Kasa Grande home. As we come together in service of our community, let our work be guided by wisdom, compassion, and a shared commitment to the well-being of the city. We are grateful to the opportunity to serve the people of the city. Bless our council and all the council members,

4:39 – 5:130

especially our mayor, with clarity of thought, courage to do what is right, and humility to learn from one another. remind us that every voice matters, every person counts, and every decision shapes the future of this great city. Amen. Amen. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

5:13 – 5:570

Thank you, S. Thank you, Brent. Okay. Next item on the agenda are the minutes. Oh, sorry about that. Almost forgot. Roll call. If Adriana, if you can please accept for the record that all of the council are present. So noted. Thank you very much. Next are minutes. Mayor Fitz Gibbons. I move to uh accept the minutes of the city council study session of March 16, 2026. the minutes of the council regular meeting of March 16, 2026. Uh the minutes of the board of adjustment for February 10th, 26. And the minutes of the community service advisory board for January 2020 20 22nd, 2026 as presented.

5:56 – 6:330

Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? Okay. Motion carries to pass the minutes. Next are the claims. Memphis Given. I move that we approve the list of claims from March 11, 2026 to March 31st, 2026. Second. There's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Any opposed?

6:30 – 7:120

Okay. Motion carries to pass the claims. And we have the meeting agenda approval. Are there any changes to the agenda, Larry? Madame Mayor, no specific changes, but we do have uh two executive sessions this evening. Okay. So, we'll pull reports up. Mayor Fitz Given, I move that we move the reports ahead of the executive session and tonight's meeting. Okay. Second. Okay. There's been a motion and a second. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. I. Any opposed? Okay. We have a special presentation this evening. Very special. I'll go ahead and step down, but if I can call up Douglas um Damon um if you can come forward.

7:26 – 9:260

So, we have a special retirement here. Um, we're recognizing recognizing and honoring Douglas Damon, who is retiring from the city's public works department sanitation division after 37 years of service. Douglas began his career with the city way back in April of 1989 as an equipment operator in the sanitation division. In 1996, he was promoted to heavy equipment operator. Douglas has been a solid, dependable, consistent driver on our residential side load sanitation collection routes and clear for and clearly over his 37 years has seen our community change with the number of homes added and the resulting solid waste collection routes. Especially when you consider our 1990 census count was just 19,000 people. Changed quite a bit. Mom. Okay. So, Douglas, on behalf of my fellow council members and all the staff, the city of Caster Graham and the citizens of our city whom you have served over the past 37 years, congratulations on your retirement. And all the best to you and your family. It's been a pleasure and I enjoyed working for you all, watching this city grow and the mayor, city council, all through the years they kept this city afloat through co through the

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construction crisis or whatever it was even today. So I appreciate it. Thank you

9:28 – 10:270

on there. Thank you. Okay. 37 years. Larry, you have a few more to go, right? Okay. Um, next is our consent agenda. Um, all listed, um, all items listed with an asterct are considered routine matters and will be enacted by one motion and one call roll call vote of the council. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a council member or member of the public so requests in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its normal sequence of the agenda. So is there any item that anyone from the council would like to remove from the consent agenda?

10:26 – 11:060

No. Okay. How about Larry staff or anyone from the public? Okay. So we'll go ahead if we can get a motion to approve. Mayor, I move to approve the consent agenda as presented. Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, Adriana, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Council member Romo, yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Huleston, yes. Council member Herman, yes. Mayor Prom Dylan, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries.

11:04 – 12:090

Thank you. Next on the agenda are public comments. I just wanted to remind everyone that the city council values citizen input. When called, please state your name and address, speak clearly into the microphone, and limit your comments to three minutes or less. In fairness to all speakers, please do not exceed your time. In accordance with the law, the city council cannot respond to or discuss items not listed on the agenda, but may direct them to staff upon conclusion of all public comments. So, I do have a few public comment cards. Um, some some people have item number L2, so we will save those for the public hearing. So, if I call your name and if you want to speak on item L2 on the agenda, we can just um put you on that public hearing if if that's okay with you. So, I'll go ahead and read the the comment card or the the speaker cards that I have here. So, first I have um Jacob Petroki.

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Hi there, Jacob.

12:11 – 13:140

Hi, Mayor. I um I prepared a speech for you guys. I got three minutes, but I think I'm just gonna summarize uh what I want to tell you guys. I don't think that you guys are going to change your mind about the flock safety program, and I'm okay with that. I'm just asking that you guys do something about auditing it. Hire a third party. Maybe put it behind a warrant like other public, you know, other records requests like phone data. Do something. My own research shows that 70% of those searches that are made currently today have no reason, no record. They're just blank. Okay? So, I'm just asking that you guys consider doing something to say, hey, you know, we'll put this behind a warrant or let's do something to third party audit this data to make sure that what the police say that they're doing is actually happening. You know, accountability is a good thing, right? So, Anyway, that's it. Keep it short.

13:13 – 13:360

Okay. Thanks. Thank you, Jacob. Hey, next speaker card is Michael Han Henry. Did I say it right, Michael? I'm sorry if I didn't. Okay. Uh, I guess I got to say my Yes. address, please.

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Address and stuff. Okay. Uh, 2552 North Millie Place. I'm Michael Henrian. Uh I've been uh living in Cassagran and working as an educator for about 10 years and I'm actually here talking similarly uh about the flock cameras as uh Jacob has just talked about. Um I'd like to express my appreciation first to the police department and their import the important work they do. I fully support providing enforcement with uh the law enforcement with resources they need to uh appre uh to to keep the community safe. For example, our local police have shared that the flop camera systems helped them apprehend a murderer in uh Tucson for by tracking uh license plate vehicles or vehicle license plates. Uh and those led to the implementation of flock in our our city. Uh h however um and I know that um the pol the police have said that there's policies in place that ensure those those uh tools are used ethically. However, um despite these assurances, I have some concerns about the flock platform and the organization behind it. Um the system effectively works as a workaround to putting a GPS tracker on your vehicle without the need of a warrant. Uh and I'd like to highlight well I probably won't get to three things, but let me start uh at the top here. Uh let's start about the question of the security of the system. While Flock states that only authorized personnel can access the cameras, I've personally observed behavior that raises concerns about potential vulnerabilities. In particular, I know of a number of devices that I can directly interact with with my phone. Uh Flock claims there's no vulnerabilities in that it has never been hacked. Uh it doesn't need to get hacked if it's wide open already. The system is clearly not as uh secure as is claimed. Second, there's concerns

15:29 – 16:420

about the data storage uh where it goes to. Um it specifically says in their terms and conditions that it goes to the Amazon cloud which has been breached as of uh 2019 at least 13 times from major organizations or major organizations have been breached through that uh platform. Also, access is said to be limited to the customer for 30 days and then it becomes unavailable. What does that mean? Well, in their terms and conditions, which has just been updated as of February 26, 2026 this year, just in February, Flock has perpetual irrevocable worldwide license to the data gathered by Flock cameras. Perpetual meaning forever and irrevocable meaning irrevocable meaning they can't withdraw it. Uh so those images and that information are now Flock's intellectual property and that way Flock can claim they do not sell their customer data. Uh the license of that data it may end for us in 30 days but for them they have that data forever. Uh I got five seconds so uh I'm going to be back.

16:40 – 16:510

Thank you. Okay. Okay, I have Ken Dyer. Is it Did I say it right? There you are, Ken.

16:56 – 17:170

My name is uh Ken Dyer and I live in uh Palm Creek and I don't know if I'm on the right. Yeah, you might. Do you want to speak on that item? Yes. Okay, let's do that because you didn't note it here. So, we'll go ahead and wait and put you on with the the the public hearing if that's okay. That's perfect. Okay. Barbara Sundust.

17:20 – 19:200

Good evening. I'm Barbara Sundust and my address is 1273 East Cordova Avenue, Cassag Grand. Um I I know the city is making some movements to help a few people to get into a position of self-sufficiency and I think that's great. And so we're we're making steps to help um some of the marginalized people, not necessarily unhoused. My plea is for affordable housing, for shelter for elderly, especially women, and a plan to help homeless people who were literally kicked out of the city by uh the city ordinance without any place any plan except for them to get moved out. My plea is for the city of Cassagrand and the people of Cassagrand to recognize these less fortunate residents. They deserve our help. I realize that this is a money issue and it needs to be dealt with like in budget planning apparently, but so that makes me come back to the $1,680,000 budgeted for the pickle ball courts and and fixing the clubhouse and nothing budgeted for the homeless. And I guess nobody spoke up for that somehow to get put into a a budget of some kind. I know there's a um revenue money um that you get from the pickle ball courts and there won't be any if you help the homeless because they'll just be um housed. My main purpose and I only have a minute so I got to talk fast. My main purpose tonight though is to find some kind of uh 247 cooling station. I I mean, I looked up Phoenix and they have a cooling station that's within the city limits that's 247 because they realize

19:16 – 20:320

that um heat, extreme heat is a is a public health emergency. And so we we already got a hint of what the summer might be like. Now things have cooled down and it's a calmer. So now is the time for us as a community to plan for some kind of uh e either extended hours past like 5:00 when places close or a or especially should be a 247 cooling center. They have one in Phoenix. They have a library that has extended hours. This is the city making that happen. So, um and and I think maybe in our case because um there are a lot of churches that really want to help and be involved that maybe some way the city and the churches could work together to come up with a place that would give people I mean imagine somebody living in their car and it's 110 outside or 100 at night. I mean they need there should be a place for them to go. So, I'm my plea really is for us to find to work together, city and churches, and um find a place for 24/7.

20:29 – 20:560

Oh, wow. Barbara, good. Thank you. Okay, Kim Skelton. Hi there, Kim.

20:50 – 22:200

Hi, Kim Skelton, 657 West Racine Loop. Um, I just wanted to take this opportunity to introduce myself to the council, the city, the surrounding cities and Hila River. Um, I am the new incoming commandant of the Marine Corps League here in Kasa Grande. Um, I have lived here in Kasa Grande for approximately 10 years. served active duty 10 and a half years in the Marine Corps. Um, since I've been here in Kasa Grande during that 10 years, I have worked for the Kasa Grande High School District at both schools. I've worked for the state of Arizona and I'm currently employed for Hila River. Um, I just wanted to say that our Marine Corps League detachment is the county sponsor for Panal County Toys for Tots. So, the membership is basically open to anyone 18 years of age or older. Um, we would love to have people volunteer to help us. Um, if you know of any needs for veterans in the community that we can assist with, please let us know. Um, we can be reached at email address cgmcl 901 atgmail.com. Thank you.

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Thank you.

22:20 – 24:180

Okay. Are there is there anyone else that would like to speak? I do have speaker cards for the public hearing on item L2, but is there anyone else that we may have missed? Okay, we'll go ahead and close the public comments and we are on item I one. That's Kevin. Thank you. Staff recommends that the mayor and city council approve a contract be with BNF Contracting. And this is for the construction of intersection improvements on Florence Boulevard at both Pier Intersection and Arizona intersection in an amount not to exceed 1,85,925. The city did publish a uh request for qualification solicitation uh for this project. Um and we received uh quite a few submitts but after uh reviewing those uh we determined that uh BNF Contracting was the uh most qualified firm to provide the uh services for this project. So, at the intersection of uh Pier and uh Florence, you won't see a lot of physical improvements, but you'll see a lot of trip signal um technology um improvements. So, we'll be working on the uh the aging wiring, uh a lot of the components, new cabinet, and uh you know, whatever else we find once we uh get into that uh project. But that will help uh that that intersection become much more efficient. And you will see improvements at the Arizona intersection. That'll be the addition of additional left turn lanes um and um all the associated improvements with the ADA ramps, uh curb, gutter, drainage, and any other uh restoration work in that intersection that's needed along with

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the uh traffic signal infrastructure uh improvements. Um, if this project is approved, it'll begin in April. Um, and we anticipate uh a little over four months to complete the project. Uh, obviously, we'll be reaching out to the public uh with as much communication as we can to uh minimize the uh disruptions during the project. So, with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Kevin. Questions? I just have a question. You said April, so that's as in now. Yes, we will. We don't need a second reading for this because it was part of the projects that were all improved. So, just one under resolution.

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Okay. And and the reason I asked Kevin, I know this is, you know, we're just approving the construction manager, the contract, but you know, there's there's a lot of stress on Florence Boulevard right now. And so, um, I'm just curious. I know you said, you know, the the Pier and Florence signal, it's just the signal improvement. So, that shouldn't cause any narrowing of lanes or anything on the street. Is that correct? That's correct. We shouldn't have to do any uh lane closures there. If they are, they would be temporary. Okay. But, uh there shouldn't be that big an impact at that intersection. Okay. And then Arizona and Florence,

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that's going to that's going to have an impact. Um, you know, we tried to target over the summer months to impact the schools as as little as possible, but um, you know, it it to find a perfect time would be impossible. So, this was the best opportunity for us, right? And I think by that hopefully in the next month or so, there's a couple projects going on on Florence Boulevard that should be done. Um I would imagine with Sunlife and then Metroet will be hopefully hopefully Metroet will be cleared out of there and then the Sunlife is coming to conclusion but not as quick as we'd like it to. Right. Okay. Just make sure you take that into consideration as we move forward, please. So, um any other questions?

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Just uh to $20,000 city contingency. You comfortable with that? Yes, we're very comfortable with that. Okay. And then the um thank you for giving us the timeline and and duration. Can we actually get a schedule? There was one in the packet, but it just lists durations for each of the activities, not sequential and it was just the one intersection. So can we get put a Gant chart together for that and uh if if it would be appropriate, we can put it in our monthly report uh of our projects and you'll see that on there. Okay. How would that be? That that's fine. I appreciate that.

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Okay. Any other questions, comments? Okay. Um Adriana, if we can get a resolution number, please. Resolution number 5902, a resolution of the council of the city of Cassagrant, Arizona, accepting the proposal from BNF Contracting, Inc. to provide construction manager at risk services for the intersection improvements project authorizing expenditure of public funds and authorizing the execution of a contract. Mayor Fitzgibbons, I would move for approval of resolution number 5902 as presented. Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion?

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Okay, Adriana, if we can get a roll call vote. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Council member Romo, yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Huleston, yes. Coun, Council Member Herman, yes. Mayor Prom Dylan, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Okay. Item I two. Is that you, Dan? Or

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Dan and I are going to kind of tag team this one. Um, honorable ma'am, members of the council, this item before you tonight is for the approval of a contract to purchase permitting software from Governor World Technologies. This contract will allow for the implementation and subscription of a cloud-based permitting, licensing, inspection, and code enforcement software platform. The contract has a not to exceed amount of $231,515.84 84 for the implementation and year one of the contract and $135,638.30 annually for years two and three plus applicable renewals thereafter. Previously the city had contracted with Tyler Technologies for the implementation of their enterprise permitting and licensing software. The implementation for that was managed by Jamie Bar, the finance business integration manager. Jamie is here with us tonight if there's any questions that Dan and I need her assistance that you might have in answering. Um, as the process was underway, it became apparent not only to finance but other departments involved in this implementation, which included planning and development, public works, fire, um, that the software was not going to serve the needs of the city, um, the citizens, developers, and it could complicate some of the processes instead of streamlining and improving the efficiencies that we were looking for. um finance and planning and development met with um city manager Reigns and Steven Weaver, your deputy city manager, and presented the information as to why we felt that software would not meet the needs of the city. And it was determined we would we would terminate the contract

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with Tyler. Uh business integration coordinated multiple demos, indepth demos with various software entities to determine a new vendor. and Dan's going to talk about the new vendor and and the what it's going to bring.

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Hello. Good evening. Um we're real excited about the vendor that we've chosen which is is Govwell. Um they do have other contracts in Arizona and um across the country. Uh we did select go well because it is a a modern unifor unified platform that uh will improve efficiency, transparency and customer service by uh consolidating the uh the functions that it performs with um including um you know building permits and inspections, planning and zoning applications, code enforcement, fire inspections and public works permits. Um this will also they will pro provide uh you know an online platform that will dramatically improve access for residents, contractors and businesses. Um you know which will enhance tracking, reporting and oversight, reduce manual processes and increase staff efficiency. Um this investment will support Kasagran's continual growth while improving the city's overall service to the public.

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So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer. Okay. Any questions? Sure. One question. Uh, how long did you say the contract was for? I mean, if is it ongoing contract or yeartoear or is it uh locked in five years? The initial contract, pardon me, the initial contract is for three years and then I think there's two one-year extensions on the end of that. Two one-year extensions. Okay. Thank you. Um, so if I'm building a building or something and I have my permit going, I can check online to see where it is in the process. And then also, is there a public component you said too, so people can see what's going on around their house, or is that a different?

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There'll be um, well, f the first question, yes, if you're if you're a contractor or if you're building your own home, you can see your inspection results. Uh, the inspectors will have, you know, iPads out into the field. Um, same for code enforcement. If there's um an inspection of a uh a code compliance case, then people can see what the result of that is or whether it's been um continued or closed. Um with uh providing information to the public, I don't have the exact details for that. We are looking at options. there is some pretty good reporting that if um if it doesn't provide an interface for the public then um there some reporting out of that that we can provide

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because that kind of goes to my next question is going to be ADA compliance for the public because I know that's a big thing for our website and all of our computers now. So that was vetted today and we received um official notification or documentation from the company that they are going to be ADA compliant. All right. And did we get our money back from Tyler? We have worked to streamline the contract but for the past years no. Okay. Okay. Any other questions, comments?

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Okay. If we can get an ordinance number, please. Ordinance number 3501, an ordinance of the council of the city of Casagran, Arizona, accepting a proposal from Kerasoft Technology Corporation for the purchase of Gov Govwell permitting software authorizing expenditure of public funds and authorizing execution of contracts with or purchase orders to Kerasoft Technology Corporation and Govwell Technologies, Inc. Mayor Fitzg's given I move approval of ordinance number 3501 as presented. Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, Adriana, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Council member Ramo, yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards,

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yes. Council member Hston, yes. Council member Herman, yes. Council member, I'm sorry. Mayor Prime Dylan, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven, yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Okay. Item L1, James.

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Good evening, Mayor, members of council. So, item L1 is an amendment to the Vago Village Planned Area Development Zone District known as Vago Village CPS. The property is located at the southwest corner of McCartney and Panel. Currently, the planned area development zone is approximately 27 acres entitled for commercial and multifamily development. You can see the overlay of the existing P80 there. About 16 acres is currently entitled for commercial development and about 11 acres is entitled for multifamily development. The request in front of you this evening is to make an amendment to the PAD to expand the multifamily area of about for about four acres and reduce the commercial area. The primary driver for this and I'll walk you through this on some slides is if you notice on the existing P80 to the left there's commercial frontage along McCartney which currently deadends. Now it is planned to continue on through at some point but it has commercial frontage um from panel all the way west to the edge of the PAD whereas along panel from McCartney to the south there's a window of multifamily that that jets out to panel just south of the furthest um commercial pad site which is a car wash. So the request would essentially swap places with where that multifamily touches the rideway. There would be commercial entitlement along panel all the way to the southern boundary. Um whereas there would be multifamily

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entitlement with a window to McCartney. Now the only um slight exception is is the 1.61 61 acre area that is along panel that is proposed to go from multifamily to commercial would like to retain its option to continue to be developed as multifamily if that area doesn't ultimately sell as a pad site. If if it doesn't sell as a commercial pad site, what would happen is is that would just continue to be part of the multifamily area to the west. It wouldn't have any access to panel. It would be developed. It's just as part of the larger multifamily site. it would only be as a commercial pad site where it would be developed with a um access point to panel just like the other um commercial pad sites exist along that state route. This graphic kind of gives you a a better visual of of why it would make sense to entitle that area for commercial purposes. It would be just a continuation of a long string of retail and restaurant businesses along panel. The other changes that are proposed with this P Amendment is to formally show the future rightway for Talihjo Lane, which is uh north south road that parallels panel. It exists as public rightway further south and further north in areas that are um within Panel County's jurisdiction. And so this would be a way to extend rideway opportunity for overall circulation in the area. When reviewing amendments to planned

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area developments, this is the criteria that gets evaluated. And in the staff report to planning mission, it dives into each of these in greater detail. But I just want to focus on some of these that are the most relevant. With regard to relationship of the plan to surrounding uses, there is a mixture of different development types around this area. You have theago P A Caddy Corner, which is a mixture of commercial and single family residential. And then you have the McCartney Ranch Pad on the other side of panel which is currently entitled for a mixture of multifamily commercial and single family residential. And then immediately to the west was part of the Vago Village P A but it and it's technically kind of a in a adjunct to it. It's known as the Copper Canyon Planned Area Development now, which is a manufactured home park, P8 AD. And then of course to the south you see Colonial Deloul, which is a county u what I call a peninsula of sorts. Um and so there is a mixture of uses and so um the changes being proposed staff feels are fairly um minor in that it's just the opportunity to provide an additional pad site for commercial along panel while giving the opportunity for the multifamily area to have a front door along McCartney. With regard to the conformance to the city's general plan, this area sits within the commerce and business land use designation. It is adjacent to neighborhoods to the to the west of it, but also community corridor um on the

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other side of panel and in the uh immediately to the south which is county is also in the city's commerce and business land use designation and the the proposed commercial and multifamily uses are compliant with that general plan category. The other criteria that gets evaluated is the impact of the plan on existing and anticipated traffic. There was a master level traffic report provided by Y2K engineering and it has been reviewed by our city traffic consultant and as I mentioned on a previous slide um where there's involvement with AOT since panel is a state route would be if the site to the south of the car wash is to develop as commercial it would have to work with AOT for its ingress and egress because This area was always envisioned to be multifamily. It does not have shared access with the existing commercial businesses to its north. So um the applicant is aware that should this develop commercially um they would have to continue to work with AOT and potentially the adjacent property to the south which is in the county for its own access. The idea is for the site to the south to relocate its driveway access and share it with um this potential pad site. So it would probably their access would probably be moved north a little bit. So the center of the driveway would be um down the mutually shared property line. Regarding the notification process, um it did meet all the requirements which is stipulated by code. Um prior to

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planning commission, there were a couple of um correspondence that the staff received. The primary one was from a resident of Colonial Del Soul concerned about the impact of development that is to continue to occur within Vago Village. um specifically with regard to the um congestion at the Palm Panel intersection, seeking an extension or an improvement of Tally Home Tallejo Lane to be associated with within the Vago village as quickly as possible. Right now what what um is the anticipation is is that once the property goes for development they would have to dedicate right away for Tallejo and do improvements alongside that rightway and um there's also a proposed amendment to the to the McCartney Ranch PED on the other side of panel. So lot of development activity being proposed and ultimately with the various projects there will be rightaway improvements to that general area. Um so hopefully there there is a way to reduce congestion at that intersection with with not only this proposed development but others in the vicinity. At its March 5th public hearing, planning commission forwarded city council recommendation to approve this amendment subject to the following condition of record which is our standard condition that we place on a lot of zone changes that um is with regard to rightway dedication. It's that the city can ask for rightway dedication ahead of when it's ordinarily

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required, which would be at the time of building permit should the city be doing a project where the rightway is needed earlier. And that concludes my presentation. Thank you, James. Any questions, comments? I I just one kind of quick question. I just want to confirm that the multif family and the commercial fall within the general plan regardless of how it's situated. Yes, sir. Okay, that's my big thing. So, Matt,

44:27 – 44:580

I've got a question is um concerning increasing the area of multifamily because I thought we were not zoning any more new multifamily. So, how do we how is this recommended for for approval? You know, I do like the extension of Taliho Lane. That's going to be great for that area, but how do we rectify that? Because my understanding, our policy has been to not do that anymore.

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We're we're sensitive to that concern most definitely. The the perspective I have on it, Council Member Herman, is that we're talking about approximately four acres from 11 an 11 acre site to a 15 acre site. The development standards being proposed for that multifamily area um would result in a density not as intense as what could be considered given the Commerce and Business General Plan designation. Um, it allows some versatility to be either a medium density development like a build to rent or a traditional walkup style apartment. However, I think what's driving it is is a is a 15 acre site is probably more palatable for multifamily developers and an 11 acre. Um and and and yes, it is an expansion, but it's by four acres within an existing zoning area that already allows that as an entitlement, and it potentially takes away the visibility of multifamily from the primary travel corridor.

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Mayor Fitzgibbi, if I if I might, um to to kind of build on that, but also clarify something. It's not our policy. Correct. There's been no vote on it. There's been no policy I think I misspoke I think staff has heard the concerns that have been raised but there's been no official policy uh adopted by the council planning and zoning. Thank you Brett. Yes, I misspoke there but um but I appreciate your explanation of that and it kind of sounds like it will be similar in in density. I mean they could have more dents on the smaller one but this will spread it out a little. So that helps me a lot and I appreciate your thought on that James. So

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thanks. Any other questions, comments? Okay. So, this is a public hearing. If anyone would like to um speak on this, you can come up at this point. If you can give your name and address, please.

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Uh thank you, Mayor Fis Given. Uh good evening. My name is Andrew Yansy. I'm an attorney at Bergen Frank Smallley and Overberholtzer. For your record, that's at 4343 East Camelback Road in Phoenix. I'm here tonight representing the applicant community southwest uh for this project that uh James just described. So, well, um appreciate the the questions. I' I've got a a PowerPoint presentation, but frankly, uh Mr. Gagi already was so thorough, I don't really think it would add much. So, I just, you know, like to let you know from the applicant standpoint, this resoning, this PAD amendment is really driven by the moving this commercial piece out to Panal Avenue where the commercial is going to make sense. That's the development pattern we've seen occur over the years. That frankly typically makes the most sense for more retail oriented commercial. They do have a commercial developer in escrow to purchase that 1.61 acres right now. Um, of course they have to get it reszoned so that commercial uses are permitted on it for that to go forward and then work through the access issue and then definitely appreciate the the concern about multif family expansion and we were very cognizant of that as well and we started working with staff very early on this I think came to some you know reasonable approaches um you know in particular this is it's not a new multifamily site it's reconfiguring it is taking that area in the back behind behind the existing commercial that doesn't have visibility that doesn't have that frontage and converting it in to tie in with the multif family that's already there. Um I think Mr. Gaggley already hit the nail on the head. A slightly larger site is more palatable. I know there's some desire for Taliho Lane to be built out. So the sooner we can get somebody in there to build that, the sooner Taliho can get built through there and increase the connectivity. So I'm happy to answer any questions. We really do appreciate uh the work that staff has done in working through this project together.

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Thank you, Andrew. Andrew, any other questions, comments? I just a comment. I'm I'm happy with the commercial on on the frontage there on on panel. I'm just not happy with the expansion of multifamily, but um that's kind of where I sit on it. I agree with Matt. Like even four acres, it makes more palatable to build something there. I agree, but um I I would like to see it remain commercial on on that section that was already there, but that's just my only comment.

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If I may, Council Member Dugan, appreciate that. And again, we've tried to be very cognizant of that the whole time. We think leaving it commercial would be in effect leaving it vacant um because the commercial wouldn't be able to develop there. The other point about it is when you put some multif family along what's the western edge of this property, there is neighborhoods in the general plan adjacent to it. So that creates more of a transition to the commercial area that's along the panel avenue frontage there. Um multif family will generate less traffic than commercial. So that's less density or less less of like a traffic impact on that neighborhood area. So you know that that's part of the calculus that went into it. I get it. It's an awkward

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situation to have commercial behind commercial, you know, so it's hard access, hard visibility. I get that. But I just from talking to my community members and everything, uh there's been a lot of opposition toward multif family homes coming in and and more zoning for multifamily is not what our community is looking for. I'm not saying I'm voting against it. I'm just letting you know what our community has reached out to me on. So, understood. Thank you very much. And again, we we've tried to be as cognizant as we could and and appreciate planning staff working with us on it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you, Andrew. No more questions. Is there anyone else that would like to speak on this item? It is a public hearing. Okay, we'll go ahead and close the public hearing. And if we can get a ordinance number, please.

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Ordinance number 1178.191.4. 4 in ornance of the council of the city of Cigar, Arizona approving a major amendment to the Belago Village BAD adopted for property generally located south and west of the southwest corner of McCartney Road in Panal Avenue, Kazagran, Arizona, I move that we approve ordinance number 118.191.4 as presented. Okay. Motion. Second. There's been a motion and a second. If we can get a roll call vote, please. Adriana. Council member Rammo.

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Yes. Council member Dian. Yes. Council member Edwards. Yes. Council member Huston. Yes. Council member Herman. Reluctantly, yes. But please be cognizant of our community's attitude towards this, not policy. But thank you. Mayor Bromp bean, I'm in agreement with council member Herman. I do appreciate that there you are in negotiations with the commercial on the frontage. So with that, I will say yes. Mayor Fitzgiven. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you.

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Okay. Item L. So item L2 is a zone change request for approximately 273 acres of property and it is to be known as the Florence and I10 P80 or planned area development zone change request. The property sits in between Florence Boulevard to the south and Cottonwood Lane to the north between I 10 and the Palm Creek RV Resort. This item had gone in front of planning commission in March, but it was denied on a vote of 4 to three. Um due to a number of concerns, the applicant did request for city council consideration, which is uh an option available in the city code. But having understood some of the reasons for the um denial, there has been changes made to the P A that uh essentially accomplishes two things. They addressed staff's technical modifications asking for some clarity regarding the proposal and then they they also removed some of the proposed uses that had caused some of the um concerns. So, I'll walk you through those, but but um generally we are talking about approximately 273 acres of of land. And the current zoning of that property is Urban Ranch, which is an agricultural zone district. Um with

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property next to I 10 and Florence Boulevard. It's really considered a holding zone. That's not really the intended zoning for this property. Although currently with the urban ramp zoning, it supports uh farming and agricultural operations and very low density residential at a density of one dwelling per 1.25 acres. The proposal in front of you this evening is for a planned area development zone district known as Florence and I 10 P A. It would be a mixture of commercial and light industrial development. Now that's one of the uh biggest changes because what had gone in front of planning commission was a multifamily component. So on that topic they removed the um proposed multifamily uh land use out of the PD. This request may not seem entirely unfamiliar to you um or to some of the members of council. Back in 2023, um there was a proposal for this area known as the Casablanca P A. It ultimately didn't make it to city council for consideration. It was recommended by planning commission for council approval but um prior to council consideration of this it was withdrawn by the then applicant. Um but it had involved a mixture of residential, commercial and industrial um development. What's being brought forward to council now is instead of um a mixture of those various uses, they're essentially

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proposing a uh cleaner P A request whereby they're showing Camino Marcato bifurcating the area. To the west of Camino Marcato would be known as parcel one and then between Camino Marcato and and I 10 is parcel two. But within these 273 acres would be the ability to develop both commercial and light industrial uses. I do want to point out that while the majority of the property is within the commerce and business category highlighted in blue, the southerntherly portion is within the city's community corridor category which serves more as the um front door to the city. Within the community corridor category, it um does not support light industrial uses. So that area of the PAD um would only be able to develop commercially. And the community corridor general plan category has a lot to do with form. It promotes buildings that are um closer to the street and it deemphasizes the view of parking areas to accentuate the prominence of the building. and commercial development within this area has a maximum floor ratio of 0.5 within the commerce and business category. Um, it also supports commercial uses. So, the commercial component of the PAD would be supported here as well, but it also supports light industrial uses. And there's an emphasis on a campus or business park type development with uses and connections to arterial roads. Given

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that this property has high visibility of I10, um this could be seen as an attractive business park type um development and can can lure potential um employers to uh purchasing parcels within this site for their um business operations. The planned area development zone does list permitted uses that would be considered appropriate for commercial or appropriate for um light industrial. As those as that area gets parcled out, it would be determined whether it was commercial or light industrial based on its occupancy proposal. Um but any type of commercial area um would allow retail, hotel, office, um building material, sales yard, business, school, etc., restaurants. Um the light industrial uses that that would be supported per this PED would include some uses such as a commercial bakery, light manufacturing, warehousing, and distribution. What the zoning does not include and is listed as not permitted are items such as data centers, battery storage, truck stops, fertilizer manufacturing, and liqufied petroleum gas storage. Those would be more what the city considers heavy industrial uses that would would normally fall fall into the I2 zoning classification. Whereas the uses that are proposed within this PAD that are industrial are the I1 garden light industrial type uses

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which is supported by the general plan. when looking at um requests to a PA a zoning. Just like with the last presentation, this is the criteria that um requires evaluation. With regard to the relationship of the plan to surrounding land uses, as I mentioned, it's right next to I 10. So, it does offer a pallet of a variety of different uses that would be attractive to um potential employment. Um, however, the area that's the most sensitive that we would need to be concerned about is the existing Palm Creek Resort to the west. um because currently between them and I 10 is a large field and so it is important to consider what goes into that um area as Palm Creek's neighbor and being so close to the I 10 Florence interchange there's of course interest in ensuring that the businesses and development that locate here is appropriate and quality for this location. So the planned area development guide imparts uh a series of development standards that helps to ensure compatibility between what gets developed within this PAD and the Palm Creek development. One of the um development standards is a minimum of a 50 foot setback from Palm Creek for any use whether it's commercial or industrial which would include two rows of landscaping featuring trees at a spacing of 30 ft. There would be no outdoor storage or truck bays allowed within the first 100 ft of Palm Creek. And the maximum building height within

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the first 100 ft of Palm Creek is 45 feet. Now beyond that 100 foot mark, buildings on parcels of budding Palm Creek can be taller than 45, but for every foot in height taller, there would be an additional three foot building set back from the Palm Creek boundary. So with regard to the maximum heights, anything that is considered a commercial development would have a maximum height of 55 ft. Industrial development would have a maximum height of 80 ft. When considering that and thinking about the 100 foot setback and the fact that the development um provides a circulation plan where it shows Camino Marcato extending from Florence Boulevard to the south to Cottonwood to the north. Um although it doesn't specifically designate um parcel two to have a specific use over parcel one, it would be anticipated and and practical for the more intense uses or the more um the types of uses that would demand visibility from I 10 to locate next to I 10 and and it would have it wouldn't be as subject to those landscaping and setback standards. standards as what would fall into place for parcel one. Um so without specifying commercial in one area and industrial in the other, it would it would be anticipated that the more intense uses would benefit from sitting in between Camino Marcato and I 10. I touched on the general plan earlier, but it doesn't hurt to circle back to it because I do want to um point out a some nuances to that commerce and business general plan category, which is

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supportive of commercial and light industrial development. Um, another aspect of the general plan though, aside from it being commerce and business designated, is that our general plan also identifies um future trails. And there is the the Kasa Grande I 10 linear park trail designated to sit in between this site and I 10. This p a accommodates for that by identifying that trail and future connections to get to that regional trail. Um and then with regard to goals and action steps to achieve those goals within the commerce and business category, a goal is to develop economically competitive regional centers of commercial activity as well as promoting a wider range of uses other than traditional commercial areas, including blended commercial and industrial sites. to prepare for the changes in demand to the retail environment. With regard to the portion that's within community corridor, um the goal, the general plans to promote a diverse mixture of business and retail and office areas, which can be accomplished in this area, as well as encouraging mixed use of commercial and retail structures to create a higher intensity of uses along major corridors. I do want to point out that a lot of area immediately next to I10 in Kasa Grande is within that commerce and business category highlighted in blue on the screen. It's similar to the development pattern that you see on I 10. Uh, as you enter Phoenix, such as the area between

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Chandler Boulevard and Ray Road, you have a development type of uses that combine a mixture of offices and warehousing and distribution. Um, such as what you see on the um photos on the top and bottom. There's a warehousing and distribution development right next to I 10 and then more of an a lower profile office development that's singlestory um further from I 10. And then that's just an example of what you see when traveling um what would be I mean technically it's it's considered eastbound I 10, but you're traveling south right there. With regard to conformance to the city's zoning ordinance, um, per title 17, which is the city's zoning code, planned area development zones are allowed so long as certain standards are provided, such as adherence to large multi- or large singleuse shopping centers, if that happens to apply. And then there's also minimum perimeter setbacks from P A boundaries that have to be met. This P A is proposing to meet those requirements if not um offer a greater setback such as that 100 step back 100 foot setback from Palm Creek. This PA is specifically requesting large single and large multiuse shopping centers because it is in its intent is to attract um that type of development. It's considered a large singleuse shopping center if the development has at least one uh an anchor store of at least 100,000 square ft in size and it would be considered a large multipleuse shopping center if the combined

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um retail square footage of a site or a budding sites is at least 250,000 square ft. So there is definitely an intent to develop a portion of this site for commercial development and there's a list of criteria that has to be provided as far as setbacks and landscaping um unless departures are granted by city council. And so that's the point of this slide because although they don't have a specific site plan yet for a for either a single use or a multi-use shopping center, they know based on where that would be located. They are seeking um three departures. The first one is in the code it says that these type of shopping centers have to be located at the intersection of two arterial roadways. Well, the the arterial roadways in question here are Cottonwood to the north and Florence Boulevard to the south. They're a mile apart or or further and they don't intersect. So, um they're asking for a deviation to that where um they're this would not be located in an intersection of two arterials. it would likely be a collector with access to Florence Boulevard being an arterial. And then the other um departure they're seeking is within the code, it asks for a 60 ft buffer along all property lines that are but residentially designated property. They're asking for a 50-foot buffer um as that would be appropriate given the area and they are intending to landscape that. And then the third departure is that because they don't have a site plan yet submitted for that um the comprehensive sign plan which is

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ordinarily required to be subject to planning commission and council approval would be um provided at the time of site plan and it would ultimately go to the board of adjustment for consideration. I do want to take a brief moment to talk about site plans because I I mentioned that just just uh with the topic of um large single or multi-use shopping centers is um there has been changes on the state level where site plans are not subject to a public hearing. However, the city code does have a community outreach process associated with the review of site plans. even though they are administrative, the code does require measures be taken to get community's input. And I just want to walk through um those requirements briefly. So per 1766 of the city code which is our citizen review process items reviewed administratively such as site plans or plat reflecting a use at a height or setback distance approved by the property zoning is still subject to public notification for property owners within at least 300 ft or a greater distance depending on the scope of the proposal. Now, while formal public hearings are not included with that process, a neighborhood meeting may be scheduled at the request of the planner. The purpose of the notification process and what um that notification uh strives to stress in its verbiage is to gather input from the surrounding property owners in order to incorporate that feedback into the item under undergoing the administrative review. The feedback is shared with the

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applicant who is expected to at a minimum address how those comments were incorporated into their resubmitt or explain why otherwise their feedback that was received was not reflected in the resubmitt. Um this feedback may very easily impact the associated review because the review criteria for site plans um does include the following where feedback can help shape the the proposal. The first um check mark is impact of the plan on existing and anticipated traffic. We would require a sightsp specific traffic analysis and recommended upgrades to the street network would be incorporated in that way. But the the second and third one has have the most to do with community feedback which is the relationship to the site plan to surrounding land uses. That's a very subjective criteria admittedly, but if there's a strong argument made that the um site building should be contemplated to be oriented slightly different. Um different elements such as landscaping can be incorporated to help bolster that relationship of the site plan to surrounding land uses. Those are definitely um review criteria that can be incorporated. and then also adequacy of the site to accommodate the intended use and all required site improvements. Again, kind of subjective, but the idea is to involve the community to a great degree to share that with the applicant so that their resubmitt can become something that's more appropriate given the context of the area. issues such as lighting, architecture, landscape materials, and as I mentioned, some modifications to the building orientation would be expected to be

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influenced by public input through that process. And then just a reminder, amendments to the zoning um or conditional use permits remain public hearing items. So the pro so not everything is administrative. There would still be public hearings for certain actions and the applicant is now required to um send out notice to surrounding property owners ahead of making those applications to gather feedback with the idea that their initial submitt will be um responsive to to some of that initial feedback received. With regard to the impact of the plan on existing and anticipated traffic, um although I mentioned at site plan review, there would be individual traffic analysis provided. At this zoning level, a master level traffic report was provided for by Lokah Engineering. The master level traffic analysis looks high level at the buildout of these 273 acres and assumes a combination of industrial and commercial uses. It makes a list of recommendations. It identifies that Florence Boulevard and Cottonwood Lane are both um designated as arterial roads and they are to be um constructed to a fuller profile. Florence Boulevard constructed to its full profile as a principal arterial while Cottonwood would have an interim full profile design since development has yet to occur on the north side of Cottonwood. Um, Camino Marcato is designated as a collector and it would it would go through the development and then Cacheras Court which is another collector road further to the west would also tie into the development.

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This graphic kind of shows that roadway basically um Cacheras Court to the west would likely curve and tie into Camino Marcato. And then there's also the need to provide access and connections to some access challenge properties that currently um cannot get its access from Florence due to its proximity to the interchange and where the grade separation exists. So this um PED also provides those connections as well. Regarding the notification process we met which was required by code. Um we have received a number of of um comments primarily from residents of the Palm Creek neighborhood but then also some comments received by the community at large. Um there has been concerns expressed about traffic and visual impacts of that development that's proposed, potential noise, and then a preference to see the area developed more as a neighborhood um contextual development that's more um in line with the type of density that is enjoyed at Palm Creek. But then there's there's some community at large comments that are in support of the change and then some that also bring up matters of traffic and and you know traffic is a hot issue and the and the idea is is that um while the zoning does set forth a traffic analysis that identifies what has to be done. Um the idea is there there really can be no permits issued or site plans approved without um a course forward to show how the adequacy of the roadway will be maintained without taking it to an unacceptable level of service.

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As I mentioned at its March meeting, planning commission did deny the then zone change request. However, the applicant did um specifically request that their revised PED be heard by council. Um and the items that were recommended by staff at the time as technical modifications have since been addressed. So with that, staff does recommend that city council approve this zone change subject to the standard condition of record regarding rightway dedication. And that concludes my presentation. Thank you, James. Okay, any questions, comments from the council? I know it's a public hearing. I'll open that in a minute in case anyone wants to make a comment first.

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Oh, Wendy, the applicant. Sure. Steve, do you want to open the Yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. Wendy Redell with the law firm, Barry Redal, 6750 East Camelback. Um, James makes for a very tough act to follow. He's given you so much detail. Uh, I'm going to do my best to speak just kind of very quickly and highlight a few things. Is it coming up? I hope.

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There we go. Uh, so it's my pleasure to e to be here this evening on behalf of Anita Burma, uh, Arizona Land Consulting. Um, she has won numerous awards. She manages a real estate portfolio of 1.5 billion. And I will tell you, Kasa Grand is extremely near and dear to her heart. Um, she actually is one of the largest, uh, land owners in Kasa Grand. Um, she has invested over 150 million in your lovely community, uh, spanning over 5,000 acres. and we look forward, frankly, to coming back and working with this council and with your planning department on all of these projects. The site we're talking about here today, of course, is the 273 acres at I 10 in Florence. Um, you see the general plan designations. The good news here this evening is everything we're proposing is in conformance with those general plan designations. Pardon me. Um, we also do recognize that this site has um long awaited investment and we're very grateful that it's finally here. It's important that it's thoughtful. It's important that it's high quality. It's really a gateway to your community. Uh, and that it's a catalyst for future development here as well. Um, of course, our resoning request, as James had mentioned, um, some of the possible land uses that we expect to see here are office and medical office, uh, retail, restaurants, ger, we're going to talk about that a little bit more in a minute. Um, business park and light manufacturing. Some of the things that we have prohibited, um, first of all, we definitely did get the memo on the residential. So we have eliminated from this all residential no multifamily which is a big deviation from what we presented at the planning commission. Uh we have also eliminated all data centers. Uh and just for the sake of

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clarity eliminated language I talked about data processing and host services. Um we have no intention of putting a data center on this site. Um there was also a concern mentioned that this was going to be a truck stop of some sort. I assure you that couldn't be further from the truth. Uh but to be clear, there's no truck stop, truck wash, truck terminal, any other way you could describe such activity that would be permitted as part of this PAD. Um as I mentioned, but it's um it is certainly worth repeating. Everything that we're proposing here today is entirely consistent with your general plan. Specifically calls out the need for blended commercial and industrial sites along the freeway. it encourages that type of mixed use uh and promotes really a balance of those uses. So, one of those uses that we're very excited about, it's actually under contract is actually a WCO ger. So, WCO is coming here. Um they're purchasing over 20 acres in in land here um to put a retail center. Um and we're we're very excited and we think your community is very excited to have a Windco here. Um, one of the things we also did is when we looked at WCO, which is pretty typical when you see these types of users, they often have other users that they routinely attract. So, we went around and looked at some of the other WCO centers and said, who else often sort of partners with them, who else likes to follow them? And these are just a few of those users. We saw Target over and over. We saw In-N-Out Burger, Starbucks, Ulta, HomeGoods, um, Salad and Go. there are more um but those are the types of users that we expect to come um to the center. Uh we also wanted to give an idea this is very similar to what James presented as to what these types of industrial buildings would look like along the freeway and we do think that that Chandler Santan 202 freeway corridor makes for a great example. You see that striker building. I can tell you we

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honestly didn't even collaborate with James on which buildings and he pulled up the exact same ones. We thought that was kind of entertaining. Um, but this gives you a really good indication of the types of high-end architecture, the types of users, and the types of development um, we expect to see here. I wanted to touch also just for a minute on access and circulation because it's a really important point. We talked a lot about traffic. Um, here Camino Marcado will provide a connection to Cottonwood Lane to the north. you know, that exact configuration isn't known, but we know that it will connect from Florence to Cottonwood. Um, additionally, Cacheras Court will provide connections to Florence Boulevard to the south. Again, all of those specifics worked out during site planning. We also as part of this application and this is where a previous application on this site frankly fell a little bit short is we were able to work with the adjacent land owners and we are providing access on two parcels that are frankly otherwise without it. Um so it allows that again that catalyst for development allows those parcels ultimately to come in and to develop as well. In addition, one of the things that we are doing, as I'm sure this council knows very well, you have a CIP for Florence Boulevard. Um, you're going to make some pretty significant improvements to that. Part of that includes including the median in Florence Boulevard. Um, when that occurs, those businesses that are along our southern property line actually become access restricted. They become right in, right out. And so when we looked at that and we looked at our land planning here, we realized we have an opportunity to improve that circulation by bringing access around the rear of the property, ultimately connecting it to Cacheras Court, ultimately connecting it to Camino Marcado, and ultimately improving the connectivity for all of these businesses. So I would suggest creating a much better situation um for

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the surrounding businesses and we're um grateful, frankly, to have support from them as a result. Um, we've also heard a lot about buffers. So, in addition, we are providing a 50-ft buffer um along the existing residential and a 40ft buffer along the the non-residential. But I want to I want to break that down just for a minute for you if I could. So, this is also a pretty significant change that we made since the planning commission, but we've come back in and we've created a buffer to show how sensitive this development can be to that Palm Creek area and to those residents. So, that buffer area number one, if you follow me from Palm Creek and you head east, that buffer area number one is 0 to 50 ft. There's no structures. There's no outdoor storage. There is landscaping. And then when you go 51 to 100 ft, you can do a maximum of 45 ft in height. There's no outdoor storage or truck bays unless there's green. There's no, by the way, there's no west facing dock doors allowed in any of these buffers. So, none of that is permitted. And then the remainder of the site at 45 ft, you can go with an additional 3 ft for every 1T of additional height. You get up to 55 for a commercial at 100. So you have to be set back 135 130 ft to be set at 55 and then you can go set back 205 ft to be 80 ft in height. So I have a hard time picturing what that is like. So we had a little graphic here to help make that a little bit easier. Um 200 feet in height by the way is twothirds the size of the Statue of Liberty of liberty even includes the base all the way up. So, kind of gives you a little perspective. Um, or it's 20 giraffes, sorry, 10 giraffes cuz they're 20 ft tall each if you stack them one on top of the other. So, we had AI help us out with a little image of what that looks like. Um, or it's a 20story building. But, it gives

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you an idea. It's a pretty significant setback. So, we've taken this this assignment very seriously and how we create that setback, how that transition works uh before you get to that height. Um, also within that setback, we have quite a bit of landscaping. As staff mentioned, you've got two rows, either two rows of trees or a staggering of rows of trees and hedges. Um, that two rows of landscaping to ensure the screening. We have proposed landscaping that typically reaches 25 to 35 ft in height, the canopy of 20 to 30 feet in width. Um, again ensuring that you have quite a green screen that will be there. This of course shows them at maturity. recognize trees do take a little while to grow. Um but that's the type of tree that's planted. Um we know sensitivity also to lighting. We want to mention as part of this um all lighting should be shielded or partially shielded will deflect light away from residential or public streets um directed downward to eliminate any uplight pollution. Um again lighting has to remain on site and there's been tremendous advancements in lighting technology and how that works today. Um, and then finally, I want to talk a little bit about next steps after the resoning. Again, James touched on this in quite a bit of detail. Um, but we are keenly aware that when we have users, and it is important to us to have flexibility to draw those really great users that we want to draw to this site, but when we have them, we have to come back. We have to work with your a very capable professional planning staff. We have to ultimately do a neighborhood notification. We've got to um update our traffic study. and we have to come in and with all of these details and present them. And of course that site plan review process does have that public notification component for everyone within 300 ft or a greater distance depending upon the scope. Um and we imagine that they will require us to even have a neighborhood meeting here and take that input um very seriously.

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Um as I mentioned uh we did quite a bit of outreach as part of this application. We've had engagement with um Miss Mr. Finey with the Walton um with residents in Palm Creek um and as well as the adjacent businesses to the south who are very supportive as well. And with that, Madame Mayor, members of the council, I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you. Okay, now I'll open it for questions. Any questions right now? I think I was going to wait. You want to wait till after the public hearing? Okay. One thing I noticed.

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Sure. in the your two slides ago I think maybe I don't think you mentioned it but it was something that has been brought up well yes about the Florence Boulevard widening in 2030 which is four years and the buildout will not I mean it's going to be four years to develop this site so it's not like all the traffic's going to come in four years even uh madame mayor um council person Herman that's an excellent point yes so Florence Boulevard widening is estimated to occur 2030. Um, we are going to be fortunate to have even a portion of this site, I imagine, under construction then, um, and some of the commercial developed then, but certainly not the entire site.

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Okay, we'll let you know if we have more questions. We're going to go ahead and open it. Um, the public hearing, I do have a few speaker cards. I'll go ahead and start with the speakers and then we can continue to open that. So, first I have Ken. I know you came up a little while ago, Ken.

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My second try. Thank you. Nice to see the members of council. I'm a I'm a resident of Palm Creek. Can you give us your address, Ken? That's 1110 North Hennis Road.

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Okay. I have family uh several family members that live in Palm Creek also along with friends and other families. Our concern is uh Cottonwood traffic. It's um it's it's a hard one to keep track of. I don't see any police officers giving people for speeding or excessive noise. Um, I mean they they speed through like it's a racetrack and I know I know it's going to impact Cottonwood as well as Florence and there's already when there's a during season everything triples so that's going to add to the traffic, the noise, the lights, 80 foot tall buildings. I I think there's another should be another alternative property that you could put all this stuff on like um Jimmy Ker Road or out there by Lucid or where there's already commercial um structures. I don't know why they picked this one here, but I think it should be kept or change the zoning to residential, not apartments, but residential or maybe uh senior CA uh care uh duplexes. That's what I have to say.

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Thank you. Thank you. Okay, next I have Debbie Frell. Hi Debbie. Sorry. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes.

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Uh Debbie Frell, 1110 Hennis Palm Creek Resort. Um first is how many malls, warehouses, commercial light industry does Cassagram really need? We have a lot of it here already. Why is it necessary to be put in this section of the city when we have the whole area in the west that's industrial and commercial? Um why can't they kind of look in that direction? Um she mentioned about some uh exits or entrances. Uh so I was curious as to uh the proposed would they just be on Florence? How many would there be entrance and exits? Uh, and would there would be more traffic lights obviously. What type of well, let's put it this way. Have they fielded specific companies that would come into whatever got approved? Light industry. She mentioned hotels, other information, restaurants, 45 foot buildings, and so forth. Um, but have they actually talked to these companies? because a few years ago Phoenix Mart was being built and well that went bankrupt during construction and it's an eyes sore. Um and that concerns me impacts lighting within this project she just mentioned would go up in effect uh could possibly go over our walls even though there's landscaping people live there year round. So, if you have lighting on till 11 or 12 at night and it penetrates into the walls, that's going to affect the residents in Palm Creek. Infrastructure strain, rapid growth may overwhelm transportation, utilities, public services. Serious traffic concerns and congestion already exists within our city. With everything that's going on right now, you don't even want

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to be on Florence Boulevard. And every all the side sorry all the side roads are crazy with traffic because everyone's avoiding because there's so much going on at the same time. Economic dependence. Over reliance on industry can make the economy vulnerable to downturns. Quality of life. Increased industry can lead to noise, congestion, reduced living standards for the residents of the city. At the last meeting, one of the councilmen said the proposed project did not have enough details. It was open-ended as to traffic road expansion uh approved or funded for roads or you know intersections, lighting and so forth. How has that changed? Um lastly, we love the city. We moved here because of the unique charm of this city. I think I'd like to ask you to deny this application and if it is approved, we can only hope that does not become another Phoenix mark and they ruin the unique character of Cass Graham. Thank you.

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Thank you. Okay, Deborah Berdett. Hi, Deborah.

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Deborah Berdette, 1937 North Camino Real Drive. um far away from Palm Palm Creek. Um mayor and council members, I thank you and fellow citizens for this opportunity to speak. I've lived in Kasagrron for over 46 years and I've seen lots of growth and changes. Like Debbie, I love Kasagrron and I want the best for our residents, as I'm sure you all do, too. I'm here tonight to ask you to vote no on this pad change. um a big ask from urban ranch to light industrial. I know they've added commercial and that sweetens the deal some but not enough um for me. This is the gateway to our city. It's the first impression that millions of people have of Kasa Grand and I think we can do better. Um it's been 29 years since I've appeared before the city council. Uh I was a regular attender in the 90s and during that time some of the plans that our city council members uh were pursuing would have impacted our city in negative ways. I'm going to cite two. Our city council wanted to turn the asarco abandoned asarco mine pit into the biggest dump in the western world. They mused that with the position our position between two freeways and our rail ex access we could get trash from all over the country. myself and many other citizens pleaded with them to look to the future that our transportation advantages would prove invaluable in the future to attract great companies and jobs for our residents. I remember telling them that we were yet a jewel in the rough and thank God that the citizen outrage changed their minds. Kasagrand is now home to great companies and recently the price of copper has raised enough that the mine is being um mined again. And another is after Eloy got our their for-profit prisons, that same city

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council wanted to flank our city with for profit prisons on each end end of the city. Again, residents complained enough that they changed their minds. I'd also like you to remember that the city of Florence had the opportunity to have the University of Arizona or the state prison. They chose the state prison. Look at the difference between Florence and Tucson, please. And the leaders really thought they were doing the right thing every time they did it. So, no fault to that. But I'm asking you to look to the future. I've only addressed a aesthetics, but I also thought of traffic and noise for you all to consider. I think we can do much better. This is an essential gateway to our beautiful city. Please learn from the past. Look to the future and vote no in ordinance 1178.475. Um, might not happen during your tenure tenure, but better things are coming to our city. Thank you.

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Thank you. And then Bobby Seabolt.

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Hi there, Bobby.

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Madame Mayor, uh Bobby Seabolt. I live at 1110 North Hennis number 142 in Palm Creek. And I'm here today to talk about uh the pad. I want to thank all the council members and the mayor for um working on this project as they have uh since the last time we talked about it and I want to thank you all for reading my uh my handouts and uh thank the staff for all their support. But I remain opposed to this um development. Uh when we voted for the general plan, we voted for business and commerce. And I don't think anybody who voted for business and commerce was voting for light industrial. So when we came in here tonight, we were talking about putting in uh truck distribution center and warehousing opportunities. Now they're also talking about putting in a shopping center. There's some maybe some improvement in that area, but we definitely have not ruled out the use of light industrial warehousing and truck industrial centers at this location. And all of that traffic is going to go down to the intersection of Florence and I 10 where it is already crowded. And you all know that traffic is the one thing that you hear the most about. The metronet is going to stop eventually, but this traffic is never going to stop because it's a forever change that you are making. You're putting light industrial in there. There's going to be an opportunity for them to up the ante on light industrial as long for forever. As long as it remains there, it's going to always be light industrial. Palm Creek has been an industrial engine for you all since 1995 when it was built. And when people retire, they choose where they're going to live. They don't have any connections, any any

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links that make them come here. And in Palm Creek, we come because it's a resort community. We pay resort rates. No one is going to come to Palm Creek and pay resort rates if they're sitting next to a truck distribution center. It's just not going to happen. In most cases, those people with $500,000 rigs are just going to unplug and go someplace else. Now, the one thing that I am really concerned about is the lack of detail on this plan because this is the plan. This is the one plan I pulled out. You've been looking at these plans. It's two rectangles with some trees around the edge. We don't We still don't know where they're going to put warehouses, where they're going to put an ulta, where they're going to put another target, where they're going to put all these other things that are going to follow WCO. If they want to put a Windco in, I'm sure there would be a lot of support for a WCO. They can go ahead and put the WCO in without a pad. they don't need a whole pad to put a WCO in because you can do that probably in less than six months to get the the uh change on the zoning for that. So, I want to thank you all for your um support and your interest in this project, but we and the members of Palm Creek remain opposed. Thank you. Okay. Is there anyone else?

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Sure. Come on up. If you can give us your name and address, please.

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Mary Elizabeth Bridges Mora. I live at 1124 East Racing Drive, Cottonwood Ranch. And I'm also opposed to this. And one thing that nobody's brought up so far is the schools that are on Cottonwood Ranch or on Cottonwood rather. Um, kids are all over the place. The last thing we need going down Cottonwood is 18 wheelers. Um, coming out of Pleblo Drive where I live now, trying to get onto Cottonwood is difficult enough. The bushes that are there, you can't even see the cars coming up and down. It takes me seven minutes sometimes to get out onto Cottonwood to go to church on Sunday morning. What's it going to be like if we got 18 wheelers running up down there? It's not going to be good for the kids that are coming out of the preparatory school or the high school having these trucks. You know, kids don't think of where they're going. They're just all over the place. How many accidents would we have? And as for malls, like she said, we got the one out there that's it's nothing. We had the one out off the freeway when I first came here. It's just sitting there idle. We got half the stores in in the mall that we have now are idle. They started a new development by the um Michaels. There's pads there that nobody's using those yet. Why do we need another mall? Yes, Winkco would be nice. We'd all love to have Winko, but we don't need commercial vehicles right smack in the middle of town. We're not Chandler. We're Cassa Grand. I came here 20 years ago because it was a nice small community. It's already gotten larger than I wanted it to be. But the last thing I want to see here is a big commercial place where you got 18wheelers coming and going all the time and not to mention the noise that it's going to

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create and the pollution and everything else. We don't need it in Cath Grand. So I really oppose it also. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Sure.

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Good evening. Craig McFarland, 152 West Auburn Sky Court, Kascarendanda, Arizona. Uh, as a resident of this community for over 21 years myself, this is an opportunity to put some development in an area that is right next to I 10. It's in the proper corridor. The general plan allows for this use. It was voted on by the people in our 2030 general plan. And you know the the with the grocery store application, the applicants changed a lot of the pieces to this plan from the original. There's no multif family in it anymore. And as far as lighting, if you want to see what good LED lighting does, you can go down to Pier Park and the light stops at the sidewalk. It does not go into the people's yards. That's the kind of lighting that's used these days. It's it's LED and it doesn't doesn't flood into people's backyards. The landowner has rights. We need to make sure that we we appreciate that their right to build and develop something there, especially when it's on the proper it's in the proper place. And far as the zoning, urban ranch, to Mr. Gagliardi's point is just a holding zoning uh call. So, I ask for your approval on this uh proposal. I think it's a good use of that land. It's right along the I 10 corridor and quite frankly uh I wouldn't want to live in an apartment that was on I 10 myself and I think that this is a good use. So, thank you. Thank you.

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Kirk McCarville, 9405 North Poy, Cas Grandandy, Arizona. I've been self-employed in this community for 45 years. I've been in the real estate business that whole time. It's been feast or famine and we're having a pretty good run right now. I also sat up there for about 8 years and I remind the council that about 60% of our budget comes from sales tax. As they remove the residential component from this development and change it to commercial industrial, the revenue for the taxpayers in the city of Caster Grand is multiplied. I don't know the number, but I would say 10 to 20fold. So, the fact that this is now strictly commercial industrial is a going to be a huge relief to the taxpayers. It'll help us build these roads that we're behind and it'll help us get caught up with infrastructure and it'll help this committee grow and wisely. It's a it's a really good developer, a really good planner. They have a really good team here and we should embrace them. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Sure.

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Hi, John Farrell, 1110 North Tennis, Palm Creek. Um, we moved here a few years ago and uh, we just fell in love what was around us. So, we bought in and we just bought a nice two-bedroom, two bath there. And um we've been through this before where they overdeveloped so quick that we were forced to leave um our homes. When we first moved to one of our uh bever communities, there was three traffic lights for me to get home from work. When I left, it was 15. So my commute went from like maybe a half hour to hour and a half. It was really tough. And um I just wanted to um point out a couple other things. I know when they showed the videos, they had pictures. They showed that land when it was dirt, not when the stuff was growing. It really is nice. It's beautiful when you look out there and it's all green. So, um anyway, I'm sorry. I'm just a little nervous, but I just wanted to point that out. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Anyone else? No one else. Okay, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and open it back up here to the council if there's comments, questions. No questions. No comments.

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Sure. Go ahead, Matt. Um, usually, um, I had the chance to look at this a lot and I want you guys all to know that all of us up here have looked at this more than just tonight and over the last few weeks and I don't like um, having to do this against planning and zoning. However, due to the public's response, looking at Miss Seabold especially, he had a very good organized thing. A lot of stuff has changed in this in this PA. When I walked in to a meeting with them, the first thing they said is no multif family and no data centers. I'm like, well, that helps a lot. You know, the traffic is the other thing that keeps coming up. And as as uh James pointed out, every time they do this, they're going to have to do a traffic impact analysis for each use so that it will be figured in to the use of the property. And one thing I hear besides multifamily, car washes, um you know, other things in this town is truck traffic through town. And I think this is an opportunity to keep trucks from not coming through town if they do need to go into this development. It's going to go right from I 10 into Cateras Court or the one before that. Um and the gateway to the city. Now on the other side of the freeway, we have a nice the mall and you see the back of it looks pretty good just like most freeways do because you drive by about 80 miles an hour most of the time. But the important part of the gateway is going to be on Florence Boulevard and Cottonwood Lane because that's where people are going to drive into our community. and I am working with this development team. They're committed to that and especially on the south end they have to be because that's community corridor and it's required there. So in addition to traffic uh metronet any multif family we need more grocery stores in this town and when they they put that up there when I watched the planning and zoning I was like this is very disingenuous of them just to throw a windco up there. However, they actually have it in escrow. They actually have talked to the company and they are planning to build

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it. It's not just a pipe dream. It is a real thing. They assured us um going forward with this as it comes. The state took away our ability to review site plans with public hearings and I'm not a fan of that. I will say that flat out. However, we have a procedure that we voted on to where we will have public outreach to visit with them and they have committed to do it. It's in the plan that they will commit to do that. And also in the the last page of the plan, the appendix, which we talked about with someone earlier, is just because it's an appendix that's in there. You can't have truck stops there. You can't have data centers. You can't have multif family. It's in that plan. Um, so when they do that, we're going to have some public outreach. But I want to ask these guys over here because we ran into this last time is we have to notify the property owners within 300 ft. Well, a lot of the residents out here don't technically own the property in Palm Creek. why they are residents. Can we do something to make sure they get informed somehow? I mean, I know not we're not required, but is there some tool we can use? Sure, we can. And we've had discussions of this before to notify um residents just by pulling their addresses if that is available for particularly a development like Palm Creek.

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Um you know, we can't always control the time of year that we're doing this, which has always been another concern. Um, but we'll do our best to reach as many residents as we can for their input. And I know that that Wendy said that they tried to go into Palm Creek and weren't able to talk to the residents, but have met with them. So, I appreciate that. But that public outreach is going to be such a big part of this going forward. So, people know that they are listened to because we do care. It's hard to sit up here and make these decisions. But this land use category in our general plan that was voted on is for this use. It's not for farming anymore. It's not for multi

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not for multif family. It's not for it's for this commerce and business and doing that buffer. I talked to a planner from Tucson who actually sits on planning zoning. If you do a 50ft buffer in Tucson or Pima County, you're not required to do any landscaping because that buffer is so big. And here we're requiring the double row of landscaping and the lighting shielding everything. So, they're working with us and also the 45 foot at the 100 and um no dock bays and and we made sure that they included all this in there. I talked to them this morning to make sure. Um so, I'm just thinking I know it's tough. Um and the Cottonwood Lane, there's we've been trying to expand that overpass for years and there's new plans to keep trying to do it. It's a it's a big lift, but we've got some more ideas to help with that. Um, but just this is this is the area by I 10 and you don't want to live by I 10 in a house, but it's important to be very sensitive to the residents there on Palm Creek, which I think is going to happen. I know was going to happen and the traffic impact analysis. Um, because again, Florence Boulevard right now is not great, but by the time this gets built, Florence Boulevard will be built out with the proper turns and the lights. So, it's not all going to happen at one time. Um, anyway, I thank everyone for their input tonight. I thank staff, the applicants, everybody for working so hard on this project. Because of public input, it was made a much better project than first proposed in my opinion. So, thank you.

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Thank you, Matt. Anything else, Bob? Sure. Um, everything Matt said, that's why I went first.

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I think that was uh well well presented for us. Um, bottom line is I I think the process is working. It's not done yet and some of us are imagining that it's going to be terrible. I don't think with the improvements uh to uh Florence Boulevard and the uh routing of the streets that the applicant has has uh put in there and the mitigation that the applicant has applied to this to try to make it a little more palatable to uh to the residents. I I think it's going to work out fine. We still have uh uh site plans uh that'll be submitted and and uh we can still work with the applicant and the developers during that. So, I'm confident it it will work out. And thank you, Matt, for putting in all those details.

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Thank you. Great articulation, Matt.

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Chair. Yes. Yeah, end up echoing some of Council Member Herman's comments, but a couple other things I was going to point out is um I think the applicant has done a pretty good job of making some concessions and working with us from the time planning zoning happened to the to now. There have been quite a few changes. Um I read through the traffic analysis. I had some concerns with it from what I saw on planning and zoning. I had some concerns. Um, I was hoping to ask a bunch of questions tonight, but I don't get to because they corrected all those. Um, I the latest traffic analysis I have no issues with. Um, they've addressed a lot of the concerns I had. Um, and I guess I'm going to ask staff. I know there is this, what are we calling it now? The citizen review process. Um, I I know the applicant's going to be more than willing to work with us on it. just ask that we make sure that we not only are getting notifications out, but that once we get those meetings going, let's let's promote that some. Let's be very transparent about the process we're going through so that everybody can see what um what kind of progress we're making on that because I think it's going to be a big impact not just on this particular development but on future developments when the same thing comes along that people understand that yes the state's taken away thing something from us that we needed um but here's how we resolved it and we're going to continue to resolve it in this way. So, I just ask that you guys really hammer on that when you get a chance to. Um, that's really all I had.

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Okay. Thank you. Any questions, comments? Good.

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Okay. Um, no. And I wanted to echo what some of my fellow council members um talked about. Uh, you know, we I I really believe and I hope you have all seen with this council that we really truly value community input and sometimes it's difficult because you can't satisfy everyone. Even though you're getting input, you're not satisfying, you know, the needs or, you know, desires or wants for everyone in this community. But we really try to listen. And so I know um I actually watched that planning and zoning commission meeting and um listened to the presentations, listened to the feedback and um you know I I again I think staff did a great job presenting. However, I thought there was some things that maybe we could have just focused on or or gone into a little bit more detail and that was the public input and especially when it comes to the site plan review. um you know some of the things that we already have in place. But I I understand the planning and zoning commission's concerns and I think you know with their vote it made us really take a look at this project and see how we can you know make it better. And so I I appreciate them and their input and you know the the questions that they presented at the time because I do feel that we many of us and me um myself included had those same concerns and since then I have been in touch with the applicant I've been in touch with staff to find out you know how we can um you know work together to bring something that is you know it it it's really what what's planned. I mean we we you know I was part of those general plan meetings. You know we you know brought it to the community. We had community input. We had meetings and then it ultimately was voted by the residents of Casser and these particular

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this use is what's there. I mean in these you know this property owner is is bringing something that is in our general plan that we you know looking at the future of our city. This is really what we wanted to bring. And so, um, I appreciate the the, um, concessions or, you know, um, you know, that that taking out, um, multifamily because I, we all knew that that was not a good idea. Um, and data centers has been a hot topic and, um, there was a lot of questions and concerns with data centers coming in. So, the applicant for sure said, you know, that, you know, that's fine. You know, we'll we'll eliminate that. So, I do believe that this applicant has been really working with us to try to bring um a project that that really works for the community. And so, I think that, you know, by by, you know, approving a well, you know, um a thoughtful, wellplanned commercial and um industrial project, you know, it brings job creation. It strengthens our tax base like one of our our speakers said and provides services and amenities that benefit the whole Caster Grand and and I think we have to remember that we're we're talking about, you know, the the large community and how this impacts this. Now, the as far as the um Palm Creek, I appreciate your your feedback. I value what you do and what you bring to our community. I know this community is very active. They're engaged. They I I appreciate the gentleman that said, you know, you moved here and you love this community. I know I I love this community, too. And I wish I can say it's not going to grow. I mean, no, I don't wish I can say that. I want I don't want to say that. Um I I don't want to say that. Jody, take that out. Um no, I I I don't. It It's exciting for me growing up here, raising a family here, having a business here,

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and when I see what this community, you know, can bring. and and and we still do have that charm. We still still have that unique character, you know, for this community. And so, but this area that we're talking about, it it it really this this is the youth that that can assist as we continue to grow. Um, so I again, we will remain focused on making sure that we're adhering to the standards. we have, you know, standards that, you know, all of us here, you know, we we we take serious. And so community input we take serious. And so, um, to, you know, we want to make sure that we're continuing to address compatibility, you know, making sure that the right projects that are coming in. We we are, you know, I'm not happy that the legislator took legislator took away, you know, the the the public hearings. No one is. No one on this council. None of our staff are happy about that. But it is what it is. And so now we have to work with that. And so we right when that happened, we talked about it and said this is something that is still a priority for us to make sure that we're keeping the community in engagement, public input, neighborhood meetings, and so we will continue to do that. So um so again, that's just you kind of where where I am on this, too. But uh but I just wanted to thank everyone for their input uh and um and the applicant for making these changes and staff, you know, just being open and and James, you know, great job on the presentation. So, is there um any other questions or comments?

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Think you guys covered it all. Great job. And then Adriana, I just know I forgot that there was a couple emails you gave me. Do I do we need to put those in the record for the public hearing? people that sent emails. If I can turn this on. Uh yeah, I think that that Adriana gave them to you. She is going to include them in the public record. Okay. Uh as part of the the record for this. Is it okay for me to just read these couple that I have in my hand? If you want to read all three of them, you can. Although you did close the public comments. I know. Well, you can you can put the Maybe the best thing to do is to uh to add the names and uh the fact that they were opposed.

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Okay. Let I'll do that just so people that are here today that we did receive someone that was strongly opposed from Marie Jean Garin and also um another one I just have um Dela that emailed us and then of course Bobby um Sunbolt um sent us something too. So if you can make sure that those are in the record. Okay. So moving forward let's see if we can get an ordinance number please. Ordinance number 1178.475 an ordinance of the council of the city of Cassagrant Arizona amending zoning ordinance number 1178 and its subsequent amendments by changing the zoning from Urban Ranch UR to plan area development P A on property on property generally located between Florence Boulevard and Cottonwood Lane and between Palm Creek Palm Creek RB Racort and Interstate 10 Cancer Grand Arizona. Mayor Fisgiven, I move that we approve ordinance number 11 178.475 as presented.

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Second. Okay, there's been a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Okay, Adrianne, if we can get a roll call vote, please. Council member Remo, yes. Council member Dugan, yes. Council member Edwards, yes. Council member Hston, yes. Council member Herman, yes. Mayor Prom Dylan, yes. Mayor Fitzgiven. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Okay. Next is we Let's see. We're going to do our reports. So, we'll start with that and then we'll go into an executive session from there. Should I wait a minute here?

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So, we'll go ahead and start with reports. Anthony, you look like you want to start. No reports. No. It's been a busy busy week. Busy a lot of funerals. Oh, okay. Okay. How about you, Becca? I do have just a couple things. Um, we had our community and career day last week at Cactus Middle School and we had 24 local businesses as well as a good representation from different departments from the city. And it was just really great for all of our students to get to see what type of what types of businesses that we have here and available to them as they go through the school and graduate and stay in our community because that's what we want.

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A couple weeks ago, I also had council member Edwards over at Cactus. He had lunch with some students and talked with them about um his different experiences and it was just they really appreciated it. they were really excited for it and I just think that um we build a better community when we partner with our schools and so I think that makes a big difference and I'd love to see more community members partnering with our schools and building that relationship because it really does matter. Thank you. Okay, Matt,

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couple things. Uh this Saturday on the 11th at uh the Garden of Sunshine is a memorial 6 starts at 7:00 u to recognize all the uh the kids that were lost too early in the community and the youth commission is putting that on. So that'll be at 7:00 p.m. on the Saturday the 11th. And then the Rotary auction is the next Saturday on the 18th at the property conference center. So Diamonds in the Desert. If you need tickets, let me or Larry know. Or Chief, he left, but me or Larry or Becca, sorry. Um, let us know. And then the 26th is the Youth Commission's Spring Day of Shredding. Um,

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no, it's the Spring Day of Shredding at First American Credit Union on Panel Avenue from 9 until noon or until the truck is full. And last time it did get full. So, get there early and and get that. So that's a youth commission on the 26th because we had to move it later because of prom. So apparently you got to get ready for prom all day, not just in the evening. 9 to 11. 9 to noon. 9 to noon. Yep. All right. Okay, that's it. Anthony did I did forget something. Uh tomorrow, uh 4:30, Seats of Hope is having the Arizona Gives Day. Um and so it's tomorrow at uh 4:30 um there at the Presbyterian church in the big auditorium in the back.

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So I forgot about that. And then the faith alliance lunchon is also on this coming Thursday and Steve Miller will be our guest speaker and that's going to be at the LDS church off Colorado. Okay. Okay. Good. No reports. No report. Sean, I got bad news. What? April 15th is tax day. So if you haven't turned your taxes, it's like already. Next week. Oh, yes. I know, right? That was your report. That's it. That's it. That's on my report. I'm done. Just to remind us. Just to remind us. Yeah. Just look at my calendar. I was like, budget retreat on

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Oh, but we got budget retreat, too, on the 15th. Open to the public. Well, actually, Sean, I know I went to an event with you, the San Juan um dedication. Yes, the San talk about that.

2:08:08 – 2:08:490

Sure. Uh San Juan Pools donated a uh pool to a worthy veteran and they had a bunch of vendors that came together uh Planter and a couple of the pump companies and landscape companies and they all they all worked together to donate a a a fiberglass swimming pool to a veteran here in Cassag. And it was it was really a cool event. They had their families. They had a jumping castle. They had everything out. They made it a three-day event just for this veteran that lived here. I can't remember his last name, but Derek there. Yeah, I can't remember. I can't remember the last name. But yes, it was it was a really good event. I mean, it it just

2:08:48 – 2:09:150

it was amazing to see everybody come together and everything was donated. Um San Juan initiated it, but there was a bunch of people that jumped on board to donate that swimming pool to that veteran. So, it was an incredible deal. Good story. And they're and they their manufacturing plant is in Eloy. Yes, they're they're manufacturing right here in Eloy. You see their storefront there on Panel Avenue, San Juan, but they got their manufacturing facility there in Eloy, right? Okay.

2:09:13 – 2:11:100

Um Okay. Yeah. No, it's been a busy month. April is kind of crazy or March I guess and April. So, um, I had the I was fortunate to do a ride along with the Meals on Wheels, and I just wanted to thank, you know, Danny, your your staff over there at the Dorothy Powell Senior Center and everything that they do. Um, you know, it was just a great experience going out with them and the relationships and everything that they have with our homebound seniors and um, and I've been kind of hanging out the senior center maybe a little too much because I'm getting my list of things to do is getting bigger and bigger, but um, but no, so but but great great program. Everything that they do, it was it was a lot of fun. So, um, speaking of the faith alliance, Deputy Chief Lao spoke at their last lunch and did a great job updating everyone on the homeless ordinance and, um, and then we talked a little bit about the, um, program that, you know, some of the nonprofits are working with and and city and, you know, as far as a temporary, um, um, shelter um, program. So, that that committee is continuing to meet on a regular basis. There's been a lot of events going on. The taco fest was great, you know, with the chamber and the no put that together. It was, you know, so thank you to everyone with all the sponsors. CAC, if you guys um probably saw in the paper there, they had their groundbreaking for their performing arts center. So, it's going to be a beautiful center. Um they had the renderings and um yeah, it's going to have a big um um banquet room and um you know, beautiful facility. So, you can always go online and check that out. That was this week. Dancing for Our Stars. One of our own employees, Tissa Ellsworth, participated in that and did a fantastic job. Two trophies. Um she won two trophies. One was the community engagement and I can't remember what the other um winner. She was a winner of two trophies and did a great great job. So just proud of her. So everyone in this room, we'll see who's next next year

2:11:070

who's going to do it. Um as far as um me,

2:11:13 – 2:12:420

we'll see. Sean, looks like Shawn may be um public safety day was this this past weekend and it was um great event by our public safety crew and all of our um you know staff members were there. They had booths. It was a beautiful evening on Saturday. A little light attendance. I think all those UVA fans stayed home but um but some of us were still there. Maybe because my team wasn't in there but um but it was a great event. Great event. So um happy happy to be at that. Um some upcoming events we have um let's see a new restaurant and bar poor Therapy if anyone hasn't gone there downtown. It's a nice restaurant. It's a cocktail bar and beautiful. They're having their ribbon cutting on the 23rd at 3:00. So if anyone would like to go, please come and support them. I know the um it's called this celebrating panel county um scholars which was the Caesar Chavez committee. Um they're in their 20th year this year and they're going to be honoring 50 students this Friday at the property. So thank you to all of the sponsors and everyone that's helped them over these last 20 years. Rotary dinner you talked about. We have another great city event coming up. Dia de los Nos is a great family event and that is at um Paul Mason and please come out. It is a great great event for families. Dia de los Nos. Yeah. What date is that? It's on um the 25th.

2:12:41 – 2:12:580

25th. And then Dan, do you know the time that day is 11 to 2. 11 to 2. Yeah. Please come out. It's a great great event. That's the day of shredding, too. I think I said I think I said 26th, but it's the 25th. Saturday.

2:12:54 – 2:13:430

And um we the the city, we are hosting a public safety openhouse that's open to the community. As you all know, we had a couple of these last year and there's been, you know, we just a lot of questions on on public safety and so we want to make sure that we, you know, are um opening the um the this meeting, this open house and it's going to be at fire station 503 on Panel Avenue. So, please come out um to that on the 27th and that's at 5, I think, right you guys? 5 5:30 5:30 p.m. at the um the fire station 503. um the budget meeting all day budget meeting for all the city staff and that is open to the public. So if anyone would like to attend, you more than welcome to attend day

2:13:39 – 2:14:200

all day. And um there's also um we are trying to conduct a recycling survey that's open to the community. So if you can please get online and fill that survey out for us, we would greatly appreciate it. And then an or um um you had one more the third annual international drive-thru prayer conference. Uh know our mayor spoke there last year. Um that's returned again and it's going to be this coming the 13th through the 15th at Trinity Southern Baptist Church. Um and it's full day every day the 13th, 14, 15 starting at 8:00 in the morning. So great. And so but wanted to just make sure we mention it.

2:14:19 – 2:15:030

Okay, sounds good. And then one more thing, this Saturday is the spring potty pot. P A W P like as in dogs. And um on April 11th um from 9 to noon and it's come meet the adoptable dogs and cats at the um Cash Grand um um new and improved. Yes, adoption center. Yeah, new and improved. They have a beautiful mural there now. So, there's going to be refreshments, music, and discounted adoption. So, please Sean, go and get that get that dog. You almost got it the other day. Almost. Um anyway, I'll go ahead and um if we can get a motion to go into executive session. So moved. Second.

2:15:010

Okay. All those in figure um all those in favor, please signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? Okay. We'll go into executive session.

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