Board of Aldermen - Regular Meeting

All right. Good evening. Welcome everyone uh to the April 2nd, 2026 board committee meeting. We'll begin with the pledge of allegiance. Everyone, please join us. May I have a roll call? Any clerk? Alderman Lang here. Alderman Bright Shaft here. Alderman Whisper here. Alderman Harold here. Alderwoman Hills here. Alderwoman Jokers here. Alderman Maserang here. Alderman Rogers is not here. We have seven for the quorum.

Thank you, ma'am. uh mayor's comments. We have a pretty hefty uh executive session, so I'm just going to blow through this and we'll uh go take as much time as we need on this agenda. Uh but we will begin with personnel. Somebody wants to make a motion. Alderman Hills. I'd like to make a motion to bring personnel up to the top of the agenda and then after that miscellaneous. Alderman Lang second. Okay, we have a motion by second by Lang. We have further discussion. All in favor? I opposed. That motion carries. Okay, you ready? Consideration of employee benefit. You know what? Let me back up a minute. We missed public comments and I do have a request to speak by Mike Abbott. Pardon me. Sorry.

Oh, it was me. You don't have to be sorry.

That is that on Mike? Dan's going to help you there.

There we go. Mike Abbott, 1526 Bent Oak Ridge Drive, Benton, Missouri 63026. And I just asked to uh step up for public comments for the agenda item of the fence line cleanup between Fabic Nature Preserve and Fenton City Park is on the agenda tonight. And I just wanted to let it be known that I hope there is some discussion of the scope and expected results of this effort. I know you all have memos, but I don't know if there's discussion, it's public information and I would know what's going on in our public parks. Um, I looked at the tree survey map and none of these trees in this fence line are marked as problem trees except for one tree down at the far end to be removed. One lone tree. And I was just curious if this new contract would be on top of the $500,000 that have already been budgeted to cut down trees this year or is this part of that effort? Thank you for the opportunity. Okay, we'll discuss that when we get to that on the agenda. Thanks, Mike. All right, Alderman Huels.

Thank you, sir. Consideration of employee benefit renewals for 2026 2027 is provided by the Daniel and Henry Company, and we have June here this evening to speak with us. Good evening. I'm June Evers from the Daniel and Henry Company. Happy to be here this evening to discuss your employee benefits insurance renewals for 2026. Um, I believe everyone has the renewal packet and we are just going to start off with the medical plan. Did anybody have any questions before I get started with discussing the renewal? Are we going to get time to look it over?

That's what I was just going to say to be honest. We just got this last night and so just now. Well, some of them just got it just now, but we got it in our packets or I mean um in an email last night. So, some have had more opportunity to look at it than others. So, there might not be as many questions as there may be down the road a little bit. Yeah, of course. And I'll just state this as stated in the email to the board. We understand that there's more time. It's already been placed on the agenda under miscellaneous for next week and Daniel and Henry do plan to be here. Um but they're going to go ahead and go through the renewals this evening so that you can get a general presentation so that way. Thank you.

Yeah. So the medical renewal, your medical plan is with the Anthem Miwa program which is the chamber of co commerce program where the states um employers band together pull together under the chamber of commerce. There's 4,000 employers currently in the chamber plan representing about 44,000 lives being covered. Um, your renewal came in at 31.14% which represents an increase of $5,25748 a month or $63,089.76 per year. Um Daniel and Henry was able to negotiate rate relief off of that original renewal increase down to 28.52% u representing $4,81530 53 a month or $57,786.36 per year.

And how does Daniel and Henry do that? Um we basically ask um the Miwa for a discount. We um let them know that the city has been with the carrier for several years um showing that historically they're loyal to the carrier and um it would be appreciative if they would offer some sort of discount on their renewal. Um each broker that represents um Anthem plans has a block renewal and a certain percentage of uh rate relief in a bucket per se. Um so I have several groups that I've asked rate relief for and honestly 2.62% is the highest I've gotten so far. They've been giving me 1% or 1.5% on groups. They're very dingy, if you want to call it, this year. Um, I asked for the reason. They actually originally declined to offer rate relief for the city and I asked for the reason and they said it was due to continued high utilization of the plan and ongoing highcost medical conditions. Um, I continued to push for the rate relief and I did get the 2.6.

So, evidently it's other people in the plan because ours is pretty impeccable in the last year. Um well, if you look on page four, the renewal factors that the Miwa uses um to decipher what renewal increase they're going to give a um employer is based on the base rate, which is um their pulled employer's performance for the entire Miwa. And it's also specific to the Anthem medical plan that you're on. So, um, the the plan that you received a 9.3% increase, it basically represents an escalation in overall cost. So, the hospitals are charging more, the providers are charging more, prescriptions cost more, and the carrier basically offsets their increases and passes passes it on to their employers. almost 30%. Unbelievable.

Yeah. Unbelievable to me. Um there is also a change in risk. Um they were capping risk at 15%. I don't know if you recall from past meetings. Um they are now increasing that cap to 25%. So they are going to be spreading additional risk in the future.

So So what makes up risk? Risk and what? risk is the the ongoing medical claims that um specific members have in an employer's plan. So, I can't get specific conditions from the Miwa. All they can tell me is that there are ongoing chronic conditions. You know, I can only speculate that it could be who knows. I mean, they don't give me any specifics.

So, I do have a question. So, you know, we're looking at uh just round numbers. So, 30% increase. So, if we weren't in this plan with the chamber, what what have you seen others as far as an increase?

I was told the average increase in the Miwa in the St. Louis area is 16%. So, you are above average. However, I do have other groups that received higher increases at 39% 40%. Um, so they basically again they boil it down to these three factors. the base rate, how the entire Miwa is performing, how the specific plan that you're group on is performing, the risk, the specific risk in your employee or I should say member population because it does represent dependent spouses and kids. And then your demographic changes, which is at 6.8% this year. that represents age, gender, geographical area of where your members are located. Um, and again, they factor in risk profiles. So would it be so so at 30% part of the chamber would it not be wise to look for us to look outside because

be part of her presentation is she looked at other carriers and other and if you flip a couple more if it sounds like we're beating you up we're just frustrated with this you know we we nothing against you we just frustrating to us and we don't quite frankly I don't understand and I understand that but I think just because I think a lot of your questions might be answered if we could. I'll be quiet for a while. Well, okay. So, if you move on to page six.

Okay. But June to kind of show them that we looked at that you looked at other carriers outside of Miwa and comparable plans and those would have been a 70% increase, a 68% increase that are on that page. But now she asked for other Miwa plans, which is what she's getting ready to present. on page six. Um, I do want you to know that I did market your group to 13 traditional medical carriers in the market. Um, and as Nikki said, um, the good thing about the Miwa is that they do cap the risk and at your 15% risk outside of the Miwa on, you know, a United Healthcare plan or Medicica or um, an Anthem traditional plan, that represents about 60 to 80% um, as a risk factor. So, the Miwa is protecting you by capping your risk at 15%.

But you did say that there were other people that got 15%. Were they comparable to was it like Valley Park that got 15% or we talking about a total different like a bank? Yes. I'm not comparing you to other municipalities. Um we represent um employers from various industries. Um their demographics could be totally different from yours. They could be a group of 20 young men in their 20s or 30s.

Well, that's where I was wondering, you know, did Valley Park get a big bump because they would have the same type of uh public works department where a bank would, you know, have the risk that they have. So I was just curious as to who got 15, why did we get 30 workman? I I know, but just an she was saying risk and age and stuff like that and that's tends to be public works. They have a higher risk factor as far as that would be workman's comp that I think that yeah I think that's where workman

I think that somehow plays into this somewhere down the road. I'm just trying to figure out why up so much. I think we talked about this at budget time. We we we we said I think I gave you some information it was going to go to 28%. We were we were budgeting like we budgeted 25%. I'm sorry. Go ahead, J.

Sure. Um, so yeah, I looked at some additional Miwa plans if you wanted to consider staying with a traditional group health plan like the Anthem Miwa plan and that's on page 15. So to continue with an Anthem Miwa plan, I looked at increasing your deductible. You're currently at a 25,000 individual deductible and a 5,000 family deductible with a 4500 individual out-of- pocket maximum. If you were to increase that deductible by $1,000 and go up to a 3500 individual deductible and continue with a 0% co insurance, which is what you currently have, which means if you meet your deductible as a member, um you wouldn't have any other costs to cover. You'd have um 100% covered by the carrier. So that's plan 17. That's the last plan on page 15 to the far right. And again, it came in originally at a 24% increase, which does fall below your budgeted amount, but we were able to um negotiate a 2.5% rate relief discount on that particular plan down to 21%. I did include a $5,000 individual deductible plan at 80% and 100% and a $3,500 individual deductible plan at 80%. Just so you can see the difference between that 20% co insurance versus the 0% co insurance.

So the recommendation if you want to stay with a traditional comprehensive medical plan um with nationwide coverage um a rich network um I would recommend going with one of these alternate Miwa plans. I think the the most or least disruptive would be that $3,500 individual deductible plan 17. Any questions? Moving on to the dental renewal. The city's current dental carrier is Mutual of Omaha. The original renewal increase came in at 7% representing a $669 increase a month or an $80028 increase per year. Again, I did ask for rate relief. rate relief was granted, but it's contingent upon moving all of the city's ancillary insurance lines to Mutual of Omaha. That would be your vision. Your life insurance, short-term disability, and long-term disability, they would reduce the increase to 3%, which represents a $28.56 a month increase or $34,2.72 increase a year. And um I will go over the additional cost on those other lines to show that Mutual of Omaha is actually offering an overall decrease in your annual um expenses for your ancillary coverage down to 4%. So it's 4% under what you're

currently paying if you would move everything to Mutual of Omaha. So if you look on page 19, I put various scenarios together. You have your current and your renewal. Mutual of Omaha represents your dental. IMED represents your vision. New York Life represents your basic life and accidental death and dismemberment. Long-term disability and short-term disability. you can see what your current costs are and um the renewal with those various carriers which is a 4.71% increase over current combining all those renewals. The third column would be Mutual of Omaha um covering all of those ancillary lines and that represents that decrease in what you're paying currently by 4%. And I did market um the dental to six different carriers I believe. Yeah, three were uncompetitive and three carriers declined to quote because they couldn't get um competitive rates. So, we will move on to the vision. IME is your current carrier. They offered a rate pass renewal at 48 months. I did market your vision to seven carriers. Three of those carriers provided competitive quotes, one non-competitive quote, and three declined a quote. If you look at the spreadsheet on page 24, you'll see that Mutual of Omaha

actually came in 10% under current. So 10% below what you're currently paying for IMED. And if you were to move your vision to Mutual of Omaha, you would receive that rate relief offer from Mutual of Omaha. Um, as well as Mutual of Omaha also uses the IMED Insight network. So there would be no disruption for current members on the IMED plan. They'd be using the exact same network with Mutual of Omaha. And then moving on to the life and disability. New York Life is the current carrier. They offered a rate pass renewal with a 24-month rate guarantee. I marketed your life and disability to eight alternate carriers. We received five competitive quotes, one non-competitive, and three declined a quote. And again, moving on to that spreadsheet on page 28, you'll see that Mutual Mutual of Omaha came in at 35% nearly 36% under what you're currently paying for for the New York Life, the basic life, and accidental death and dismemberment. The next spreadsheet on page 29 also shows Mutual of Omaha coming in at 14.29% under what you're currently paying for long-term disability with New York Life. The spreadsheet on page 30 is the voluntary short-term disability. Mutual of Omaha is actually coming in 15% below the current rates for the

voluntary short-term disability. That benefit is paid for 100% by the employees. And the spreadsheet on page 31 is the voluntary life AD and D. Mutual Omaha match the current rates. So again, that is voluntary coverage which the employee pays 100% for, but they would not have an increase to their rates. In addition, if you move those lines to Mutual Omaha, they're going to come in with um a true open enrollment for each line, and they're going to wave the pre-existing condition rule for the voluntary short-term disability on this initial open enrollment. And again, combining all of those lines under Mutual of Omaha rather than the various carriers now, you're going to be paying 4.19% under what you're currently paying. Any questions on the vision life? Yes,

I can ask a question now. So question. So currently our current health is with Anthem. So, with Mutual of Omaha being pretty aggressive with all the rest of it, does Mutual of Omaha offer uh the health side? No, unfortunately. I marketed you to 13 or marketed the city to 13 carriers that do offer um health coverage in this market. And as you can see, they were 60 to 80% more than what you're currently paying.

I just I just so when I saw this late last night, I was like, where's I couldn't find it. Yeah, they um they do not offer health coverage. Okay,

else we're going to move on to the EAP program that you have. It's a standalone standalone program offered by H&H Health Associates. Um I did some digging after this packet was made to find out if the employees and their family members are currently using this um program and the utilization is over 10% um which is over the targeted rate of utilization um with a standalone EAP plan and um I was able to negotiate a 50% decrease in your annual cost which is typically $1,000 a year. Um they agreed to um extend a 50% discount rate relief and bring it down to $2,000 for the 2026 plan year. Going back to Mutual of Omaha on page 34, they currently cover your voluntary accident, voluntary critical illness, voluntary hospital indemnity. Those are again voluntary rates. So they're covered 100% by the employees and these are still under rate guarantee until June 1st, 2027. So there's no change there. I had a quick question about all these different various uh various voluntary plans. Are they utilized a lot by our employees?

I don't have the utilization report on that. That's something I can bring back to um an additional meeting if you want that. I mean, are a lot of people voluntarily buying it or is it just a couple employees or is it it is quite a few. Okay. There are quite quite a few of the employees that take the voluntary indemnities and that. Okay. And again, there's no cost to the city. It's 100% paid for by the employees.

Daniel and Henry offers a digital platform that manages employee benefits administration. Um it is typically a cost of $1,000 annually to Daniel and Henry clients, but we have waved that fee um every year for the city of Fenton because you have several lines of coverage with us. The open enrollment will continue to be handled by the employee navigator platform. So recommending that we continue with that. The ACA reporting is um done every year and required for a group of your size um and can be managed by Daniel and Henry um and also through Employee Navigator. And lastly, our important dates. I do want to stress that um your renewals are for June 1st. That's when your price increases um begin and we have to have open enrollment data from your employees about two weeks prior to that date. So we do need a decision by the board on these renewals preferably by April 16th. Um, yeah, or the 23rd. Drop dead. I would say April 30th because we have to go into the employee navigator platform and make updates. If you are considering moving the ancillary lines to Mutual of Omaha, we would have to go in and switch out the IMED and the New York Life. Um, and it's not as easy as just flipping a switch. We have benefits technology staff that go in and then manually program the platform. So we do need about two weeks lead time for that.

That means is essentially next week we would need something to be forwarded to the board because we uh we have an attorney who requires that these be approved by ordinance. Anybody else have any questions? Okay. Thank you so much, June. I appreciate it. Thanks, June. Um, instead of making a motion, I'm just going to continue this since it's on the Yes. on the agenda next next uh week under miscellaneous.

Next, we have a request for the court administrator to attend the MAC spring conference. We have a memo from Michelle. And if anybody doesn't have, this is something she attends every year and it goes towards her accreditation. If anyone doesn't have, there's costs in here. Um, but there's also a pdium for that. So, if anybody doesn't have any questions, I'd make a motion to forward that unless you need this a final or no. Alman Whisbrock. Second. Motion by Heel, second by Whisbrock. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.

Next, we have a request for the um prosecuting attorney's assistant to attend the same conference, same things. Um, and I would make a motion to allow her to attend as well. Alman Lang. Second. Motion by Heel, second by Lang. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.

We have a request to accept an updated fee agreement with Mercy for certain occupational health services. We have a memo from Jane Hungler, our city clerk. Jane, did you have anything you wanted to add to this? Yeah, at just a couple weeks ago, you guys approved the new annual uh $100 implementation for the program. This year, the DOT uh drug screening and breath and alcohol screening um fees did go up a little bit. They're on the memo, and we just need that authorization to sign that agreement for those increased fees. And if we could get a final so we can get this.

Okay. If anybody doesn't have any questions, I will make a final motion to uh go with this new pricing for the occupational health services provided by Mercy. That's what Iman Jokers. Motion by Hugh, second by Jokers. Further discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. And then did you want to move to miscellaneous now? If we could please. Want to make a motion for that? I already did. Okay. Need a second. Alderman Mazar. I did the beginning. It was in our first Oh, it was in your first. That's fine. So, we have, if you'd like to come up to the podium, we have Salman. You'll have to help me pronounce your last name.

Good evening everyone and thank you for having me. Yes, my name is Salman Mahmud. Um, I'm happy to just introduce I guess the topic. Um, so could you give us your address too for the

Yes, of course. Uh, so I'm speaking on behalf of 212 Water Street, Fenton 63026. And um, I'm speaking on behalf, I guess the request I'm here for today is because I'm actually a filmmaker based here in St. Louis. Um, and I wanted to film that house in question, 212 Water Street. Uh, for that I have a crew coming in and the one thing they requested was for their safety and of course for the safety of any uh, traffic, they were asking if we could potentially just uh, reroute the traffic from Water Street. So, I'm happy to show you a picture of it, but it's essentially uh instead of the traffic going through Water Street, it would just reroute to the next street over and come back around just so it avoids the one house as we film. Uh it just made them feel a little bit more comfortable with their equipment, of course, as well as themselves and any of the cars coming. Uh we wanted it just for a few hours on April 28th, uh just coming up later this month, uh from about 7 a.m. to about 12 or 1. Um that's the request and I'm happy to answer any questions. Um,

the biggest question I have, I just tore a house down. Do you have your permits from St. Louis County to tear? Yeah. So, uh, that's actually something. So, my father is the one who owns the house. He's the one working on the tear down permit for it. So, you'll you'll have that because it took me almost a year to get that all that paperwork done. Man, that's that's what I'm hoping for. So, we'll see what happens, but if not, I'll have to delay then so that we'll see the 20. Um, Nikki, you got any you got any comments on that? So, are you asking for 6 hours? Are you do you have any idea what that is? Yeah, so I would say specifically 6 hours and that would be roughly 7:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. on April 28th.

That is a very high traffic road. That's a Tuesday. I I wanted to see what date the 20 Sorry, the You said it was the 28th. Yes, Tuesday the 28th. That's correct. Tuesday the 28th. Okay. And that is a high cut through area for people uh specifically coming from the um south old highway 141 area to uh get to highway um 44, Interstate 44. So it is a very hightraic area through there. So we would need to we would need to make the public aware of this closure in advance. Go ahead. So my my question is um could it be could filming start after rush hour like may maybe from 9 to 3 or something or Yeah.

kind of let you know get rush hour traffic and get in and out before the evening rush hour. Yeah. I I real and um yeah at least in that portion there there are alternate streets you can go up down around another one and and get around it. Are you requesting like uh detour signs from public works or something? I think I think most I guess I what's most re relevant to me is that yeah, it would be a detour to like either the next street over and then you can come back around just around the house essentially. Um that's what I would hope for. Um and then when it comes to the time of day, it's very flexible for us. We can, you know, whatever works for you guys. I'm happy to accommodate that. Yeah, I I think wait until after the morning rush and before the evening rush would be better. Okay.

Let that traffic get through. My question to to Dan is I does the city have detour signs that could be put up to direct people around or so so Dan can you come up and for us to make a closure like that whether it's 9:00 in the morning or 7 o'clock in the morning that would take at least four guys at a minimum and right now I honestly don't have the crew to dedicate to that this time of year. Okay. Is it? Uh, okay. So, we would have to figure out how and the what's the purpose of film?

I I guess personal personal film making. Uh, I guess the other question is um could what about traffic control? Could they hire traffic control to put something up or they could look at secondary through St. Louis County? Uh because normally when we do have trout road closures like that, we will, you know, set vehicles because people will go through them. They will they will violate it. Um uh work we're working with our tree contractor. We're going to be shutting a portion of the roads down of course in in um areas with detours and we're not allowing our contractor to start until later in the morning and they have to be done earlier in the day and we plan to give plenty of public notice. Um have you obtained your demolition permit yet?

I already talked about it. Uh no to answer your question, not yet. Okay. And the likelihood of this coming down on the 28th, I would say, is slim to none. Um, if you have not applied yet with St. Louis County for the demolition permit.

Got it. Good to know. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that I think honestly that is probably the most relevant answer here. So, I would may I was potentially going to film without the demolition regardless, but it I would actually prefer with it. So, it sounds like maybe this April 28th will not be the case. So, I think the board, if you're going to approve this, would need to be flexible on them informing us of the date and giving X amount of advanced notice because I do believe that as we do, we are going to be doing with our contractor who will be removing large trees along um the river road as we plan to give out notice on Nixl and others to inform people or you will be receiving calls where

so is there an option to do it on a weekend? So, so as we kind of said before, that road is uh it's fairly busy both on morning rush hour and in the evening with everybody coming through there and to route that around those. So, those streets aren't very big to begin with. Uh they're around Oldtown Fenton, right? Yes. You you've been around there. So, there's there's very little and if we get a truck or a trailer that um pickup truck in a trailer, right? So, semis aren't allowed or they're not supposed to be going through there. But if we reroute that, um, that's going to make traffic jams pretty severe through that area because those streets really, they're not meant to be have that much traffic rounded around them.

Mhm. So, so, so I do have a concern with that. Alman Jokers, I think if I get the feel of the board, but it sounds like we're open. It's just more of time when and then also if we can figure out a time for that we could set up the detour signs and stuff like that. And obviously you'll have to have your So maybe when you get your demolition permit then we start working on the time if that's okay with you. Let me throw a couple comments in here. Salman. Yep.

Um I what I've noticed there's been no utility disconnects yet. That takes a while. Um there's been no space uh speestous abatement. That takes a little bit of time. Believe me, I just went through it. Um there your contractor isn't going to want to utilize the street for tearing that house down. It took a house a thousand twotory house that I had 3 weeks ago, 11 minutes for that house to be down in the foundation. So it it it's not going to be a long time in filming. Um, but I think we're at a point here where it's going to be a while before you get permits. I think we're a little premature.

Mhm. Um, but uh, have you talked to any of the residents in that in the neighborhood there? That was actually on my list of things to do is specifically because that tour would in would uh, incorporate some of the houses right next to me. So, I would have to talk to them obviously to respect, you know, I would probably suggest that you get a a handle on your dates for demolition. because I I don't see this happening on the 28th. I I almost guarantee you it won't. I I hate to say that. No, I I get I've dealt with them and you're not dealing with the city of Fenton, you're dealing with St. Louis County. Right. Right. Right. No, I'm familiar. So, thank you so much. Okay. Anything Anything else? I think we're good. Thank you.

Thank you for the time, everyone. Okay. Well, let's go back to Alderman Lang with uh police. You want to finish the other item on miscellaneous? We can. since we're there.

Uh that is consideration amendment to the contract for the general code LLC uh related to the municipal code. Jane, you want to pick that up? We received the last invoice from general code for our last codification. Um, and there was a rate increase on the cost per page for codification. And per the agreement, that does need board approval. Um, and the new rate has gone up to from 20 to $21 per page. So, we just need the agreement to um revise the the ordinance and the contract.

So, we were at 20 and they want to go to 21. Correct. Okay. out of curiosity and might not even have the number but like so this is every time we change one of our ordinance or is this every time we modify the code every time and how often is that so how much we actually do codifi full codification I believe it's twice a year so it's only all of those ordinances are sent in and then they are saved and put in the online version but the physical paper version is not done only done twice which this rate of any of those ordinances that affect any of the pages in the code book. Alman Hills, do you need a motion?

Yes, please. I'd like to make that motion. Alman Herrell. A second. Motion by Hills, second by Harrell. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Alderman Lang. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, tonight we have a consideration of a request by St. Paul Parish for road closure and traffic control during their parish picnic and parade. uh C3 2426 memo from Jane. I think this is the the norm of what they do for the parade. Closing one-way traffic, getting in and out. So, I think this is the same thing we do and utilizing the Yeah, utilizing the police, which which we all know seeing it as necessary because it gets pretty busy. So, um are there any questions? Uh have you talked to the captain about this? They signed off on the on the permit.

Got it. There are no questions. I make a motion to approve. All right. We need a Harold Rogers jokers. Alderman Harold, I'll second. We have a motion by Lang, second by uh Harold. We have further discussion. All in favor? I have one question. We do have a question. I do. I was looking at their proposed um permit here and and there's a notice says, "Please may one way road for both days different than attached." I just wanted to see what clarification it was because I t typically um it was for the weekend. It was always for two days. So I was just wondering clarification on that. You know what that means? J

I think they're saying the direction of what the one way goes. Correct. The difference. So a left on Forest No, left on Fur Crest, left on Sen. Yeah. Right on forest null finish at soccer field. So, I think what they're talking about is just a one way, which I I think we're just going to have to defer to what the police decide is safest on that. So, Dan, when that is done, the the uh do the police set the signs or do public works set the signs? We typically set them out in place and then was the police or St. Paul that sets them up the day of. Okay. Any further comfortable? All in favor then?

I opposed. Motion carries. That's all I have. All right. We're going to move to community development and affairs. Alderman Brit Shaft. Uh in the absence of Alderman Rogers, would you care to do his report, sir? Uh sure. There's a um a memo here from Nikki. Um and let's see, what is it about? St. Louis County Clean Energy Development Board. Um they're looking for a liaison person. It looks like as of this date, um staff has Wait a minute. Where am I? I'm on personal. I am sorry. Do you want me to just kind of go through it?

We're done with that. We're Okay, here we go. St. Louis County uh clean energy is seeking represent representative from a city of Fenton to sit on the St. Louis County Pace Advisory Council and attaches the email. I hope everybody's read the email. Um they're just looking for somebody to be kind of a point person it looks like uh for our residents to contact and then forward their concerns or their thoughts on to this organization. Um and really given a thought and um Nikki, what are your thoughts? I mean is this something that uh we we like once a year or something like that?

Like once a year if you would like I I'll just sit on it. That would be easier and report back any information. It's regarding it's just they're basically the the clean energy. All right. either myself or maybe Amy Spark. Somebody volunteering step forward or I'm Amy Spark would be good too. And she's not here so it's perfect. Well, I mean we just leave it open like staff someone from staff will sit in

they want a point for but like is this am I reading this like how I don't even really understand what they do like that it helps people. It's regarding the energy savings program and how it can help our local businesses get involved with these energy saving programs and and put the um put the information out to them. But they're looking for um I think in the past they're looking for more representatives of each community to sit on on sit on it so that they know that it's getting into the community. And of course the more I look at it though I do think that would be great for the community development director but I'd be happy to do so also. Mhm.

Well, how about if we if we put your name to it and you can delegate and disappear. Perfect. So, the program sounds like a a really good positive program for new a new building or an existing building to upgrade um clean energy and they and they'll offer assistance with that. And for our residents and our businesses, it' probably be a good thing to also have a person like Bruce to or Nikki or somebody. Yeah. I think I think as we go along somebody just to represent and have a have a point person. So yeah. So do you uh you want a you want a motion of some sort, Nikki?

Yes, we would need a final motion. As you noted, uh they've informed us that they need a candidate by uh April 10th. Okay. Okay. So, I'll make You want to do Amy or who? Nikki, I'll I'll be happy to do it. Okay. I'll make a motion to open it to the full board for a final motion. Do Do you need that? Huh? Yes. Yeah. One's shaking their head, one isn't. Go ahead. Go ahead and do it. Okay. I make a motion that we open up to full board for final. I need a second. I'll second it. We have a motion by Bright Shaff, second by Mazang. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed. Appoint the city administrator or designate. Our designate.

So my motion would be that we uh final motion that because of the time constraints here that we uh appoint our liaison to this group. Okay. Need a second. Alman jokers. I'll second. We have a motion by Brightf. Second by jokers. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you sir. We're going to move then to Alman Mazerang under capital improvements.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. First up is the consideration for bids of the 2026 parking lot replacement project for 900 Gregory Lane. That is also known as the old fire our police station. Um the city hall bid opening for the uh let's see 900 Gregory Lane. We'll skip down a little bit. The project includes removal and replacement of the asphalt parking lot at 900 Gregory Lane, including concrete curbing, new concrete sidewalk, and new playground in to the new playground in Budwe Park. E Meyer Contracting submitted the lowest responsive bid of $134,979 with Spencer Contracting submitting the second lowest for $155,520. The city budget 75,000 for the 2026 capital uh project. If this approved, it will require an adjustment to midyear. Um Dan, do you want to come up and add anything to this? Um I know it's it's quite almost double what we kind of budgeted.

Yeah. Um I mean, but I I think it's, you know, it's lots horrible. I mean, it it needs extensive work. Does include concrete curbing and a concrete sidewalk that will connect to Budweis, right? And I we're definitely I think we're going to need more parking for the uh new playground. So, does does anyone else have any questions? West Brock. So, quick question. I are we is uh what about striping that lot? We will take care of that. Okay. Will that include handicap spots? Is there some there already? I guess we'll have to have some by code. Yes. Okay. Anyone else? Any questions?

Yeah. When I first looked at this, I thought, I hate spending any money on that dilapidated old piece of property. We in the future, we really need to do something, but I know that's a different subject. But because it connects to our new playground, whenever that happens, whenever we have a playground, I think we definitely need that and we need the extra parking. So, that's just my comment. Okay. Anyone else? I just one quick thing kind of off comment here a little bit. Uh that building does look kind of bad. I don't know if uh paint that somehow or make it look a little better. Paint that. I think once you start painting concrete, you create a real real problem.

We can look at have it powerwashed again. Um the need of it, but we just had it powerwashed and painted last year. Those guys with the graffiti seem to do a good job painting concrete. Can you seal it, wash it, and then seal it with something? I wouldn't do anything to it. Let's ask some people that are in the know. I I don't know. Yeah. I mean, somehow you maybe like painted up some artsy looking thing or something. West Brock. Yeah. So, after we get the parking lot all uh fancied up here, like there's some old I guess flower bed shrubbery area. Maybe a little tension there to some of that because we're gonna little landscaping. Yep.

Yeah. So, that's been talked about, right? So, also, um, Dan, we've been RV Wagner, I believe, has been using that for lay down up there and, um, storage area and that. I think we're going to have to, if we put the money into redoing this parking lot and making it nice, I think they're no longer using that area. They're no longer using Susan. We also have to make sure that that entrance door on that far right side. You remember like people were propping it open and we have to if we're going to have kids playing around there. We're going to have to make sure that that is sealed for sure or it does lock.

Okay. Any further questions? Um I would mention as a side note is that uh we did look at we are looking for fixtures for the light poles. We've received a bid. It's fairly inexpensive to have the existing pools painted. The issue is they're having a hard time finding the type of light that can go into that into the the existing pole. Um but we are we are working through it. Bates Electric's working on it. Elite's working on it. And I think Doug has contacted another manufacturer. So, we're just trying to get those. We hope to have those numbers to you by next month. Unfortunately, it's it's been a little more difficult task because I guess of the type of um the size that the unit needs to go into, but we're trying to do that in lie of completely having to replace all of the light posts.

Any other questions? At this time, I'd make a motion that we go with Eyer Contracting for the bid to redo the lot. Okay. Right. Alderman Brit, I would second. We have a motion by Mazang, second by Bright Shaft. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.

All right. The next item is a consideration of a quote from Elite Properties and Landscaping Construction LLC to clean up the fence line area between Fabic Nature Preserve and Fenton City Park. Um, let's see here. It says uh per the contract. Let's see. At this time, staff is requesting to attach quote to clean up the fence line area located between Fabic Preserve and Fenton City Park adjacent to the uh the Fenton City Park path at a cost of 6,300. The quote includes removing the barbwire fence and removing all undergrowth, invasives, and dead trees in area approximately uh 400 to 450 to 500 ft by 20 ft wide. If approved, this would be have to the project will be changed in the C 2020 26 capital improvement plan. Nikki, your your inventory. How many trees are going to be eliminated?

We don't know that that area was inventoried. Sometimes if it's dense if it's dense a dense forested area, there's a lot of dead trees within that area. If they're ash trees, they will be removed. If they're Bradford pairs, they will be removed. Um the biggest issue through there is the invasive species and the dilapitated barb wire fence that is in our park. That is so and this will be charged under the invasive species um account that we have through capital. The reason this is coming to the board is that um anything under $5,000 we can utilize um Elite to go ahead and move forward with these. However, since it's over $5,000, it does require board approval. Um and if you would like for this to move forward sooner than later, we would like a final motion on that this evening.

Mike, is that the fence line you were talking about? Okay. Okay. It's the area, you know, where the the the native the burial ground is. Yes. And then there's an area between right between there and then going into Fenton City Park, there's an old barbwire barbwire fence. There's a bunch of honeysuckle. It's just to clean that area up between those two.

And I think it'll make things flow better between the two parks, too. You know, and let me tell you that I mean, I've been with Nikki and and Robin and these contractors and the conservation department. We're just not tearing trees out because for the hell of it. These emerald ash boores are in most of these trees. They're they're going to die and die pretty quickly. There's trees down there that I never even thought of, but if you go around in the back, they're completely hollow. They're rotted at the top. I mean, it's it's a liability to us. So, this is we're not trying to clear cut. Maybe one guy is rink, but uh for the most part, we're we're not doing this just to the invasive species. And I've talked about this. The conservation department said that's a shame. That was a 100-y old oak. That's a shame. That was a 75y old walnut.

And this is identified for an area in the 2027 plan to look towards because it's a wetland area. So, but this is again the biggest issue is the barb wire through there. There's invasives I know in that area. The next step is we are going to be going along the creek line through there, especially with the poison ivy and everything else that exists. So, um we're looking at this as an invasive cleanup. Uh the reason they're not able to go in with the forestry cutter is because of the barbwire fence. So, most of this will be hand cut. And if you've not seen elite do some of these areas, there is somebody who will be out there with a machete. out of curiosity. So gosh, it's just such a huge endeavor to uh remove that Japanese honeysuckle. Um but already you can see that it's growing back in places that have already been cleared. Do we have a plan where it's just like six months after it's been cleared? We have another crew that goes back.

Yeah, we need to spray it. Some areas we're spraying in the fall because you want to make sure that everything else is dormant around it if you're being more delicate with the areas. other areas we can spray when we need to spray. But yes, I've spoken with the lead and that's part of the is that it needs to be sprayed when it's completed. However, the rest is on us. It is stewardship. We have to continue to spray these areas as we're maintaining them or we are just going to be back to square one. Yeah. So, that's that's my concern is that I can it's like wow you can Yep. And that's part of working with uh Mod Native is that we are hoping and working to train um you know city staff. But yeah, once these areas have been cleaned um that is the new maintenance of those areas in lie of you know is that they they need to be sprayed. Yeah.

Okay. Thank you. I've heard nothing but positive from the residents and people that have gone up there. So So you need this opened up to the full board now? Well, I'm just saying that yeah, we would we would like to move forward with this. Okay. Well, I'll make a motion to open up to the full board. Okay. Uh Harold, I'll second. Motion by Maserang, second by Harold. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. All right. Now, I'll make a motion that we go with Elite Properties for the fence line cleanup. Alman Hules. I'll second. Is a final final motion. Yes. Yes. Alderman Mazerang made motion. Alman Hules seconds. Further discussion? All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.

All right. Next item up on the agenda is consideration of amendment for the contract m with Missouri Native Stewardship Services for the other native landscaping services. Uh the memo states as approved under ordinance 4550 in 2025 the city has a contract with Missouri Native Stewardship LLC for forestry cutter and invasive species control for invasive control in the city's parks as scheduled in the 2026 capital plan. staff is requesting that the board consider amending the contract to expand services services to include uh other services provided by Missouri native such as nate native seedling or seating and plantings as on an as needed basis. Staff proposes that each project would be quoted separately for written approval with any project over 5,000 requiring approval by the board. Any questions? Anyone? You need this on a final or

that would be great board. Well, no, we have to amend the contract. I apologize. No, this will be an ordinance and this will be similar to Elite that if it goes over 5,000, it comes to the board for approval. So, no questions. I'll make a motion that we approve this. Okay. Alderman Herrell, I'll second. We have a motion by Maserang, second by Harrell. Further discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Next item is a consideration for an amendment to the contract with STL Tree Services to include daily rates for forestry cutter service on an asneeded basis. Um let's see anything let's see anything we need to add to this Nikki.

Yeah I can just go into this. Um STL tree services similar to elite and to um homestead forestry that we use. Mo native also provides for forestry cutting services. Um the services are similar to what you have seen up in Fabic that they can get 20 times done in about half the time. Um the difference with um STL services, you will see they are a little higher rate. They are 20 uh $2,800 per day. However, if you've seen what they can get accomplished in one day, that being Westside Park and Budwe all accomplished on a Saturday, um it's it's pretty impressive. Also, they don't do a five-day minimum. that we have certain areas. The area we would really like to get moving forward and we've actually just signed a small public works contract so that we're not constantly having to do these small contracts is that they plan to do the along the Marramac in one day

there the $2,800. I think we we looked at it. I think it'd be cheaper with the 2,800 over the the other company. Some of the others that take a little longer. Yeah. And they own their own equipment and they're in there and they're getting it done. Yeah. And Doug Doug's can't always make it on the weekends even though he might be a little bit cheaper. The the person that yeah that is working in Fabic it's known is that he's more um weekend work. So and there are times that we need to get this in because we have to be on schedule with the seeding and the planting that needs to that no native comes in behind to do. So do you need this a final? Uh this will also be an amendment. So the Marramac we're just going to do under what we call a small public works contract. It's a less than $5,000 expenditure.

So, this will be an ordinance. You don't need it under an amendment to contract. Okay. So, does not need to be a final. So, all right. Does anyone have any other questions? At this time, I'd make a motion that we approve this. Okay. Need a sec. Alden Harrell. Second. We have a motion by Mazerang. Second by Harold. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion cover carries. And I believe final item. Yes. Final item is discussion regarding improvements to Budweis annex. And um I see we have some what basically some questions about the size of the pavilion.

Happy just to walk you through point by point if you don't mind just um we are into final design with uh Budweis annex. When I say that it means it's sitting on MSD's desk so the timeline is still questionable and unknown. Um the uh first item that we have is that and I did include it the site plan that we've all you know that was agreed upon um that was provided by Cochran and this is just what they're showing you as the design. We are showing a square pavilion. If you want something different please let us know as soon as possible. Um we're looking at this is similar to something that we have at Valiant. For size comparison what we have at Valiant currently is 24 by 24 or would you prefer to have a 30 by30? And I kind of gave you an estimate of the cost difference. Um Dan, you think under the 24 x 24 we can do approximately 5 to six tables where if you go up higher, you're looking six, seven, eight tables. So just because I just want to give you the cost options of what those are and what we were cons what we're we'd be considering in budget for is something similar to the design what was just recently built in Valiant Park. So, um, my question kind of with I don't know if anyone else is I'd hate to get it all done up there and just say, "Oh, we should have went bigger, you know, I and I find that it's people are complaining that they can't get enough their group in there or whatever, but that's just what I'm kind of throwing out there."

I'm going the other way. I think smaller. I don't see this as being I see this as a jumping off point to walking and hiking and and not like having a huge party, but I I like the idea of smaller. I think the parking lot's too big. Um, you know, but yeah, I I'm thinking smaller is what I'm thinking and then the parking lot I think is too big. Brian. Yeah. So, I have this some of the same comments. I'd rather see a smaller pavilion up there just as a more as a before we build a big pavilion, big parking lot and all of a sudden we've paved over everything up there.

Um I would rather see it more as an intimate setting. Um it's supposed to be, you know, overlook. It's kind of on the top of the hill. I'd rather see some more trees left versus us going through and just plowing it all down. Dan, what is this size parking lot compared to the one at Westside, which is a neighborhood park? 23 spots like we don't need 23. It is remotely. It is bigger. It is bigger by about five or eight spots. We want to look at reducing the design to something smaller to similar to Westside which would be a residentonly rental type park and get with the engineering firm. Now I mean that does help with storm water. Not won't be here.

I agree. I think it should be smaller. Okay. Parking spaces and staying with a 24 by 24. Is is there is it required to have a certain amount of spots though? No. No. This is up to the board. So, but the per Yeah. The purpose was this is to f provide parking to nature preserve. This this this originally was purchased with the thought that there's no access for parking for and no ADA accessibility to nature preserve. But we are putting the ADA that trail is going to have to. Yeah. Yeah. We are not planning for a playground in this park. I mean this the purpose of this and we went through the planning studies that a playground would is more of a passive park.

I think we would be more than happy to get with Cochran. Um I don't think Terry would strangle any one of us to just do some simple reductions. There might be some different calculations, but MSD would probably be appreciative of that and to reduce it to something more the size of Westside and then possibly stay with a 24 by 24. that that's fine and all. I I I think I think you're going to be surprised. I think this park will be more popular than you think. I just Well, being a square um building here, you can always add on to it if need be. You can you can make them look pretty nice if you find that happens. Susan,

um the other thing is with the pond restoration, like every time I go up there, the water is beautiful. Probably because we don't do use any fertilizer up there like need a bubbler that is and and then also can it be solar powered? We have that clean energy thing. We're just looking at the basics right now. Are you wanting to stay in the existing footprint essentially re just re work the existing pond

um staff is suggesting that we do not go back to the water fountain. I mean I apologize for the waterfall. I think that's going to be an attractive nuisance for children climbing and other things um to keep the water within the bounds of the pond. And is there any way? I doubt there is. But there is this really cool little Well, it's a stone that was a fountain at one point. The water there's like a little pond. The water would come up through the stone and then dribble over the stone. Is there any way we can keep that? We can we can look into that and what the cost would be and bring it back to the board. I think we're getting into some finer details here. What they're trying to do is get the engineering. Okay. I think what they're looking more for is the size, staying within the boundaries, the liner.

Yeah. But I just don't want them to just plow it out. Yeah. Because we are going to have to start getting into the details fairly quickly though on those types of things. Um right now is are we pretty much, you know, solid on this and because I do want to get with them about the Dan, do you think this is going to be a whole mess about reducing that parking lot and do we need two? And just asking the question, do we need two bathrooms or can it be a onesize bathroom or is it exist? That is we that's coming up. Yes.

So, so here's what I think that we ought to do is, you know, look at this here. I think you can reduce it, but don't don't alter the landscape to where if it if we find that it does become pretty well used and we need more parking, we just add more parking. And if you go with a square pavilion, you can always add on to that square pavilion if you find that it's utilized more. And right, it'll just have them grade the area in the area that's designed. But however, will reduce the Yeah, you could just like those maybe two spots on each side, reduce four spots. Tie your hands for future expansion.

Grade it off, but have have it graded to where it could be paved if you find you need the spots, but just maybe eliminate two on each side as you're coming in that drive or something. Yeah, that get rid of four. And to address the question regarding runoff, most of this park we're going to be going in there as we'll re we go to the reestablishment. We'll be working handinhand with Mo Native. We've had multiple conversations. Actually, the way we're looking at storm water control is that we are going to be establishing native areas within this to hopefully get away from drainage detentions and other things that we don't want to see in our park. Um actually what we're working with Monative in Budwe we're hoping is going to provide what we need for um to meet our quantities without having to do our amended soils to storm water runoff. Um so we're hoping to see quite a few no mo areas in this park when it's completed

because it is an extension of Bud Wild or of a nature preserve. So, um, but yeah, I think the big one tonight, the real big question is the bathroom. Um, from the in basically the inception of this project, it was stated that we wanted to look at compost. Um, I think that I've had a lot of feedback and so I did ask the engineers to get us the numbers, the cost. The water line isn't going to change. I will tell you in speaking with Terry and going back to the original budget numbers for the water lines, he said to go ahead and take a reduction of, I think approximately 30,000 if I remember off the what he gave us it was up yeah almost 30,000

it was almost 30,000 because of the fact that we had already um put in for the water line for the pond. So, um, we will reduce that. But what we would be looking at, this is these are kind of where the big numbers come in is the utility. Um, he he said 30 or 40,000, but we are still looking at $186,000 for the connection, but that would be water and sewer bringing it completely onto site for the future. You know, we we talked a lot about the composted type thing and the more you look at them and you go over to Sunset Hills, you know, I'm I understand you get you do that in that flood plane over there. I think I think in the long run if this is this is going to be a long-term park, I think you just bite the bullet and do it right.

Well, and you don't want you don't I don't think sewer up there and stuff too already. There isn't. No, there's a septic septic system and and septic septic down the road is going to cause you problem. Well, and that septic I guarantee you if it's still existing is not going to be is that within 200 feet that line or is it more than that? It's got it's more than that. I'm sure it is Dan because the law says if it's you're within 200 feet you've got a sewer connect and DNR will also have a say about us not connect reconnecting. I just think we bite the bullet and do it right. Cherry.

So, um I haven't spoke yet, but I'm I'm in favor of the um smaller pavilion and I'd really like to see a reduction in that parking lot also. However, um when they when they design these parking lots, they're obviously held to certain qualifications standards as far as how many people are going to be there and how many they need to provide. Um, so we're kind of at their mercy on that, but I I still think this is way too many. Um, and I like the idea of reducing that and a small pavilion because I'd like to see it as a smaller venue rather. And if somebody has a a bigger group, let let them rent Benton Park and and this is what it is. This accommodates this many. If you can do that, then yeah, you can rent this one, but otherwise, no. Um, and as far as the bathroom goes, I I'm in I'm with Joe. I said we need to do it right and let's connect it to the sewer and the water. Let's not create more maintenance for Dan and his crew down the road or hiring a um Johnny on a spot group to come in and suck it out or clean it out. Let's just do it right and have it kind of self-sufficient or, you know, efficient on its own.

Anyone else? the size of the bathroom. It sounds like there's some question on that. Still need a name. So, are we going to go with the one or the two up there? If we're going to make it smaller, doesn't necessarily have to be a two. I I mean, I I think that mostly what's going to happen up here, maybe some people go up there, but I think the majority of the people are going to park up there and then walk into the Fabic property. I think that's going to be the the main thing. they're going to use that as an access to take a walk. Um, and if that is the case, they can walk down to the other restroom and that's not far.

But also, it just you need Yeah. if if you only have a handful of people up there. So, it's going to be um I will tell you just knowing what we just paid for the one recently, we're looking at about a 40,000 cost $40,000 cost savings to go down to the one unit versus the two unit. I can have those numbers very quickly, but it'll have a baby changing station in it, right?

It it'll be I I mean, what we are going to propose, we would like to use the exact same manufacturer that we already went through the process with for the one in Fabic. been very very pleased. The process was easy. They've gone through the permitting with St. Louis County with us. Um we would like to move forward with utilize reutilizing Corworth. Um and basically do the exact same design that we did in Fabic. I I'll get to you in a second. I I think that the two you know I mean if you get someone has even a small birthday party up there 25 people you could have two people want to utilize the bathroom. I mean, even if it's just only going to be Benton residents are utilizing it. I mean,

but again, we got bud while I mean, we've got plenty of pavilions for them to But I mean, you got you got a birthday party going on out there. We have this one that is too small. Dan Dan doesn't make sense. Dan, what is the limitation for Westside on rentals of number in attendance? There is I want to say it's 45 or 50 and that is a resident only. Right. So, but I'm saying and they have two bathrooms there. Yeah. But I I I don't I mean I I get cost savings, but even if you have a 15 person, there could be two people.

I mean, I you know, most of them have two again if we're going to do it right. I mean, somebody could be in there for 45 minutes. Nobody, you know, and then you got ADA people having to you never know. We have ADA having to wheel down to Bud Wild like, "Yeah, go to Budwe." Well, if somebody's in a wheelchair, like they can't prepare it for future possible expansion of the pavilion. You're going to prepare it possible future expansion of the parking lot. The problem is is it's going to be very impossible and very costly to do a future expansion of of the bathroom. Yeah.

I the conversation will be coming soon um with this though is looking at this. It sounds like where the is heading is for rentals resident only similar that we do for Budweis and Valiant. So, so my thoughts on this I I guess see what the rest of the board thinks. You need a motion on this here. That would it would be nice for us to get with the engineer so we can Okay. So, we're I think we're thinking the 24x 24 pavilion maybe reduce like four parking spots. Six four six I mean eight. No, no, but figuring out that many people you can't we'll look at similar to westside and then the two the two uh stall bathroom what everyone's thinking

and the pond staying essentially in the same footprint just rework it rebuild it and and um everybody in agreement with that you want to add I mean this is this is actually a committee but everybody do you want to do you want you want to make or I mean this is under is this is under parks and wreck back. No, it's under capital. Um I mean, do you know how fast needing change the parking lot? Yep. I I think we the sooner we can get him working on that because that is going to throw MSD in the loop.

I'll make a motion to open up with the full board. Okay, we need a second. Alman Harold, I'll second. Boy, you getting busy here tonight. Motion by Mans, second by Errol. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion. All right. So what what do what do you want all in this motion? The pavilion. The pavilion parking lot 24 by 24 pond. The pond reduction in parking and the two longer. So the reduction in parking. Do you want that just to be decided like kind of open with Cochran what they're thinking or of which one? The parking. The reduction of parking. Yeah, we will work with the engineer on that because we can't have it throw us into a different category that it's

so we will work with them on that. Um but most the mo the most important thing is water and sewer. The water and sewer and then the would you like us to start moving forward with working with the bathroom for Okay. All right. So my motion will be that we go with a 24 by 24 pavilion but and then um that we would uh uh keep the pond the way it is correct in the same we'll rework it rework the pond this um and then as far as the rest oh and reduction in parking per city engineering and that we go with the uh sewer and water bath the two stall bathroom hooked up to sewer and water all motions.

Second. All right, we have a motion by Mazerang, second by Huels. Do we have further discussion? Everybody happy? All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. That is all I have. All right, we're going to go with Alderman Bright Shaft with public works and forestry.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I have one item for discussion this evening, and that is the painting of the 65 Oldtown Street Light poles. um that are badly in need of painting. And we have three quotes here u from Bison Pole Painting Plus and Elite Properties. Uh the the the we haven't had this is not included in our 2026 capital projects. So we'll have to adjust mid year. Um and at this time the staff's requesting to approve the pole painting plus for the painting of the old um town street lights. because they were the cheapest bid. Um, I have one question. Um, Old Painting Plus looks like they have a Minnesota address. Do they have a um office here and workers here or are they going to subcontract subcontract us out to

They do have workers in the area. They have workers in the area. They have an office in the area. They have workers in the area. Well, and we will have to put them through they'll have to be registered with the state of Missouri and be operational in the state of Missouri. Um, do you want to make this a motion that if that does not work out then we move to the second lowest bidder which would be Bison which we have used time we have used multiple times for work and they will sign our contract black they will be black black gloss black and they're going to prep them uh grind off any rust and loose paint and and do a good job and Dan you're going to keep an eye on them and yes

make sure they do it right. Okay. I what I like is uh they're going to grind it to a smooth transition which it it'll make them look nicer. Don't you don't you agree? Okay. So, um anybody else have any thoughts on this? Any any pole painters out there? Okay. So, at this time I I'd like to make a motion. Do you need this to be a vinyl? Uh no. This is this will have to be by a contract. But I think what it is is if we find that they are not we can't find them through secretary of state and able to do business within the city or I'm sorry within the state of Missouri we will automatically move to Bison. My motion. Okay. Thank you.

So I I say uh my motion would be that we go with pole painting plus and in the event that they're not registered in the state of Missouri um then we would go to the second um lowest bid which would be Bison Painting um for 27690. Okay. Alman Whisbrock second. So we have a motion by Brech Shaft, a second by Whisbreck. Do we have further discussion? All in favor? I opposed. That motion carries. All I have was a Thank you, sir. We're going to move the information services. Alderman Herrell. Mr. Mayor, I have nothing. Thank you so much. Alderman Hules.

Thank you, sir. I'd like to make a motion to close the meeting pursuant to section 610. 0211 legal actions, causes of action or litigation. Section 610.0212 lease, purchase or sale of real estate. Section 610.0213 hiring, firing, discipline or promoting employees. Section 61.0212 02112 sealed bids and related documents until the bids are open and sealed proposals and related documents or any document related to a negotiated contract until a contract is executed or all proposals are rejected. And section 6102113 individually identifiable personnel records, performance ratings, or records pertaining to employees and or applicants for employment. I think I covered them all.

All right, we need a second. We would like Alderman Harold. We have a motion by heels, a second by Harold. We have further discussion. Roll call, please. I also jokers. Sorry. Alderman Harold. Hi. Alderwoman Jokers. Hi. Alderman Mazarang. Hi. Alderman Whisper. Hi. Alman Brechf. Hi. Alderman Lang. Hi. Motion carries.