City Council - Regular Meeting

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um See, we have a core of one of our members is free note access tonight. And I will call the meeting to order at 4 o'clock p.m. at the City of Piedmont City Council and Piedmont Consulting Corporation. the first thing on our agenda are the pledges. The next thing on the agenda is a moment of silence. Okay, and next is an invitation to address Council and the person on the list is Tony Bell. And tell me if you would state your, make sure the mic's on and state your address.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. For those of you that don't know me, my name is Tony Bell. I live at 1433 Fifth Avenue. a little magazine called pima living it's a magazine delivered throughout pima for lake shores and south shore harbor uh while our reach extends beyond the city limits department publication has always been its residents businesses and the people who make this community special tonight i have three hot tax applications before the city where they are all three different proposals they all serve one purpose experience our city.

The first proposal involves partnering with the city through Key Living to better communicate what's happening here while promoting our local businesses and tourism. I brought coffee tonight because I could talk about the magazine all day, but I think it's much easier to understand the value we actually hold in your hands.

My second proposal involves the Trunk or Treat Shop and Eat. Last year, I worked alongside our chief of police to help produce and promote this event. In only about three hours, we estimated between 2,000 to 3,000 people in attendance.

proof of concept i'd love to make it even better this year but producing something of this size requires significant time marketing coordination and resources finally i'm proposing a keema wine and food festival for the fall of 2027 a destination event where our restaurants businesses hotels and community can participate while bringing thousands of visitors into keema i also want council to understand that i'm not approaching you with ideas that i don't have experience of executing before moving to keema Bay Area Breakfast Club, and 10 successful monthly events before transitioning to my newest concept, which is called Bourbon and Bobos at Peculance. I believe I can be a valuable logistical and promotional partner for this city. But more importantly, I'm a resident first. I live here, I raise my family here, I spend my money here, and when human succeeds, my neighbors and I succeed with it. Everything I'm proposing is designed to bring

eyes on the community so tonight i'm simply asking you to carefully consider these applications and give me the opportunity to continue proving what we can accomplish together i care deeply about where kina is going and i'm willing to put in the work to help escape it thank you for your time

Hi, everybody. I'm Romare. Thank you for everything you're doing for having me here today. I'm going to piggyback real fast. I didn't know Tony was going to be talking tonight. So I just like to speak in support of the Women Wine Festival that he's asking for. Over the years, I've gotten to know Tony, and I can tell you right now, a lot of us do know him and spend time with him. Tony's the real deal. In fact, he didn't mention it, I will. I know Seabrook is approving him to do some things there. They see the point of having him do this, and I do too. I think this is a big deal. If you look at places like Breckenridge, Reno Wine Festival, Biloxi has one. They're very successful. I can see the conversation. Well, you know, it's going to take this many hotel rooms to make that amount of tax money back and things like that. I think I would encourage you to look at things besides just how many rooms are we selling, the implications of it, branding that we talk about so much and getting even tourism here and i i do encourage you to do it i think it's a very good thing for pima and for a long time tony has been told it has been you know promised a bunch of things and look at this and i think we okay he does a lot of this for you to be a lot more simple the second thing we'll talk about is sidewalks and pima hoes i know you guys are going to go through that a lot um for a long time several of you personally have told the Kimo expressed, and it's not including myself, that you were going to get this done. This was something you were going to work on. You were a yes vote and these types of things. And then at KCDC, when it comes up last time, which I'm also a member of, then the idea was, well, maybe the HOA would pay for part of it. I don't know if it's our job. I don't know if we want to get into that. And I can again see the conversation. Here's the ball. Your legal counsel is going to tell you, well, we don't have to do that. It's not the law. I'm going to tell you that's wrong. And I'm also going to tell you, I really think that you should look at doing this. There is precedence from us doing it and helping prepare those sidewalks. But also, the idea is, well, maybe we'll make a pathway to the park in Pemos. We'll do that, but not the rest of it. Listen, if you want to beautify the city, you want to beautify parks, you want to beautify other things like that, start with the community. Start with the fair. And now, the last thing is, and I'm not going to talk about it too long, is the block memories. All I can talk about is my personal opinion at Pemos. It seems to me like a lot of people at Pemos are not happy with the name community, they don't have a problem being on the street. And we've seen the abuses, but we've also talked about, I've talked about with him, one of the things that makes me feel better about it is Steve McGarvey being involved. I can fix it all. I can fix the entire thing right now. The only thing that I think would make people feel better is that a limited amount of people have access to the block cameras, unless we are interested in circumstances. And then every three, four months, we have a third party come in and just make sure everything's going to achieve all. I think that's And it kind of goes to other things. Our Bundled Sports Center layout that we've done. These different issues with our different branding, different issues. The issue is trust. And so I encourage you, do the wine fest, do the chemo sidewalks, and put some restraints on block if that's the reason to trust you to go.

Is there anybody that was overwhelmed with comments? We have, next on the agenda is... We have some online submittals. Do we have online submittals that I need to read? Oh, I'm so sorry. It's okay.

I've got to get it in the habit of where you bring it. It's okay. Thank you for reminding me.

No, it's fine. We have Mr. Daniel Conrad that had comments on the fiscal year 2015 audit, bought cameras in delays and public record requests due to staff shortages. Mark Hesler proposed to slot cameras due to privacy, security, misuse, and constitutional concerns. troy weisenberger for cost removal of student privacy okay thank you very much there there is a what did you prepare to earlier 36 hour uh in other words these comments that are read and

I can still send them to you guys. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay, next on the agenda is a presentation of the 2025 fiscal year audit from Brooks, Watson, and Company. And I believe we have Mr. Ron Brooks here to chime in in any discussion and or answer any questions and give a presentation. Thank you.

How are you all this evening?

And do we need to do anything with the microphone? You just need to unmute it. Okay. Thank you for coming. I appreciate it.

Absolutely. Every time I come here, I wonder why I don't . You should. Yeah, you should. We're real quick. I'm here . I was actually on my first day. So we were months ago bringing that time thing down. Last year, the As you mentioned, my name is Mike Brooks, part of the Brooks Lawson Company. There is a lot of information here, so if you don't mind, I will go over the summary and then open up the questions. We can talk about anything you'd like. All right. First, I just want to give a brief overview of the audit process. The audit can be broken into three general phases. The first is the planning and risk assessment. So this is what we do on the front end. We're trying to figure out what's happened this year, new activity, new debts, capital projects, really developing our audit team and offering our procedures around the discipline. The next stage is the bulk of what we do. So this is our year-end field of work. So this is what we're typically used to with most audits. We're coming out and looking at all the source documents for your year-end, add content, look for accruals, receivables, as well as your revenues and expenditures. So we're not testing everything. If there is an item or a transaction that does meet our materiality threshold, we are ordering it in some form or fashion. And the final stage is just the conclusion and reporting. So this is the wrap-up of any findings that we add, as well as the presentation and acceptance of the audit report by systems. Next, I just want to briefly go over the components of your audit report. All of your financial statements and footnotes. Next is your required supplementary information. This would include your budget actual for your general fund as well as your pension information. And then you have the other supplementary information, which includes your fund level statements for the CDC. Now, last but certainly not least is the auditor's opinion. So when you're looking at this audit report, everything within this report of our auditors opinion is derived from city financial data. So all that activity and all the policies that the city has in place all come from the city with the exception of our independent auditor's report.

This report is our letter over the reliability and accuracy of these financial statements.

This letter can help you work with possible outcomes. The best outcome and the one you want is going to be an unmodified auditor opinion. The one you don't want is really

we can get significantly worse than that so i am happy to say that we were able to issue a clean unmodified audit opinion on the city's finances so this is the highest level of assurance that we can give these financial statements are free of any material misstatement and all the notes are disclosed all right next is a summary of the revenues for the year

in the prior year. Sales taxes totaled 3.3 million, increased 389,000. Your grants and contributions totaled 1.4 million, had an increase of 420,000. Property taxes totaled just under 1.3 billion and increased 256,000. While your charges for services totaled 1,030,000 and increased about 150,000.

All right, next. Your expenses for the year totaled just under $7.7 million. This was an increase of about $600,000 over the prior year.

Some of the larger expenses include your public safety expense, which was the largest, just under $2.8 million.

State rate flat had a slight increase of about $14,000.

Your general government expenses totaled $2 million and had an increase of about $100,000. Public works, just under $1.4 billion per year and had an increase of about $212,000.

the rest are some smaller ones all right next is a summary of your changes in fund balance for your general funds so i'm just going to go over the changes here and then we'll talk about the general one but starting on the left hand side you will see the net increase or decreasing your general fund balance so all your revenues expenditures transfers in and out any other activity

Those accumulated together equal your increase or decrease in fund balance. This year, the general fund had a decrease of just under 2 million in your general fund balance. Your hotel and motel tax fund had a decrease of 51,000, very common with hotel-hotel tax. Those funds are spent at the city's discretion as long as they meet the park guidelines. The city is not, you may spend those on projects that have been here, so you may have increases growth fund had an increase this year of 553 000 which is all sales tax and investment earnings so no expenses there your capital projects fund had an increase in fund balance of just over two million so i do want to point out here when we're looking at the general fund and the capital projects fund and we have very similar increases allocated within the fund. So that amount was pulled from the full cash fund, which in essence came from the general fund. So that created an inter-fund balance you needed to pay. That amount was paid and transferred from the general fund to this capital project fund, bringing it into a positive position that your deficit fund balance could bring. So you do see that that was reported as a transfer from the general fund

$2.4 million into the power projects.

So you'll see that activity as well. But what that did is it basically pulled that amount from your general fund balance, which reduced your general fund balance from just under $2.3 million to about $350 million. So your ending fund balance in your general fund is what we consider to be somewhat low and is in good shape for this transfer. The city certainly has the needs to bring that balance back up and i'll recommend is to get a plan for a budget surplus so the gfoa recommends about a about a two-month reserve so that's that's really good for that you guys are right now just under one month so most cities that we audit shoot for about three months So if you're looking at that, if you guys are shooting for three months, you'd be looking at about a $1.73 million fund balance. Next is your budget for your general fund. So we have the original, final, and actual results for the year. So in the center column, you see your final budgeted numbers. This is after any amendments. There were no amendments that wasn't started. no amendments to revenue this year your actual results came in above what you estimated for your budget so the city actually received about 574 thousand dollars in the work that you participated in revenue that offsets your expenditure variance with the negative variance the extent to which you participated with your kind of budget by about 603 thousand in below that the city had a negative right next uh just want to go over the results of your growth fund so several years ago the city did create this growth fund as part of a creative agreement to build the shops in canada so part of that fund was the city contributed three million towards this development and that amount was going to get reimbursed through sales tax and the city designated or committed those funds to be to that $3 million. The growth fund is committed to be spent on economic development projects. However, the city, it's committed by city council, so actually by city council, which there's no external sponsorship.

As of the end of the year, though, the city has received $2.9 million, about that $3 million in sales tax, of just under $73,000 remaining, which was most certainly received early in the sixth fiscal year.

to bring this up because getting sales tax, which was somewhere in the $150,000 range that was being allocated to the growth fund, is now being allocated to the general fund. So that amount will increase your general fund revenue. Okay, so that concludes my summary presentation. There are some additional letters included. any of the recommendations we did have several that would deal with each of them individually but if you had any questions over those comments or what put itself on happy then happy to discuss um i don't know if it's fine

I'm looking at page 14, where it speaks to military . Fund balance $277,799. Is that correct? That is correct. So can you speak to that, then, with $27,000 compared to the $2 billion?

So yeah, it doesn't seem to add up.

But the thing about that is that's what I would

and then you add $2 million to that.

And just, I want to just inform something. So basically, the auditor is saying, for a hub in the city operating for three months, you're listing that number at $1.7 million. General find out, and that is three months of operating So we took in . We didn't take in the dollars. We would need that amount of money to operate . That's correct. The amount that you keep is a city .

I'm just trying to . All I'm trying to do is . That's my indicator. So $1.7 million covers us. Yeah, based on this year's.

Yeah, I have a couple more questions. And I think you've always kind of explained on page 13, that again is, And it started with the Navy, and at the very bottom of the U, we had a net decrease of 1.9. The low for it was for the deficit had to be taken care of. So the zero point started with 2.2, 2.3, and the decrease of about 2 million.

Okay.

You may be going to touch on this part in your next session, but on page 43, the original at the very bottom, stewardship, compliance, and accountability. The original budget is about to go out to the state council to pay a fiscal year for all governmental funds. The legal level of budgetary control, i.e. the level of expenditure, we may not We see appropriation is a department number. So those why they had a transfer in. So all these enumerated items were what added to those numbers for him. So those were, if I understand it correctly, those were things that either exceeded the budget and did not have a commitment. I don't want to put words in your mouth. So it did not have a budget. So that's why that comment that it was not, which may not legally exceed appropriation in this part. All right. Kind of these other questions I have are kind of general questions. Obviously, this is the end of the, literally, the next fiscal year. We have less than 30 days on the remaining fiscal year. So this will carry us forward to that. Can you speak to the timeline? Is it something that we as a city can do to ensure that we actually have the budget? And have I done in the state mandate three months within the end of the fiscal year. So my ballpark is that looking at like December. So when you speak to that, as far as how realistic it can be done, what the city might need to be able to top it. And just for the public's information, I am not saying this in the sense of, oh, we'll get the audit in on time to embrace that.

I want to be quite clear on that because

As an accountant, to me, I issue a picture of your finances because there's a big difference between what you have in the checkbook and what your cash flows and what's going on.

So I just wanted to push your clear up.

It's not about, oh, she wants to sell what we can raise next. I wanted to put that out and leave it there.

So absolutely, it's possible. Within the

that we've been placed related to that, and we can stay on schedule.

So if I understand that correctly, you provide a list of prior to the closeout. You provide a list of accounts that you can be closed out or reconciled with all the journal entries and whatever you can come in. So you give it to us as a city up front. Is that correct? That's correct. Thank you. Are there any more questions or comments or discussion? Seeing none, thank you very much for the presentation. I appreciate it. Next on our agenda is the mayor's comments. Thank you everybody for coming out tonight. Tropical storm adored a landfall yesterday and we thankfully were and negative impacts from them. Our staff monitored the storm closely and were prepared and faced things to turn toward us. I want to especially thank the public works team, clearing the city of any loose items and driving around the city and looking for debris before the storm. And Mel Gonzalez, our permitting coordinator, for contacting all of the contractors that were in active progress with projects in town. to make sure that their sites were secure. And while the store ended up being a non-event, we've always encouraged everyone to have their repair in this kind of place for any worst-case scenario. If we do remember that we have the Galveston County Disaster Guides available online and in our copy out in the lobby. Applications are still being accepted for the vacant position on our KCBC board. Anyone interested in filling that position may apply online. All of these applications must be received by 5 p.m. tomorrow, Thursday, September the 3rd. And finally, there's still the City of Texas that's holding their 2026 People's Choice Award. And we're a recognized community. We've been nominated. And we'd like for you all to be encouraged to go and vote for us to be a senior Texas city at WWW. scenotexas.org. I think that's all. Next on the agenda is council member comments. Councilwoman Thorne. I'd just like to welcome everybody for coming out. It's refreshing to see citizens being vocal about obviously we are here serve the citizens and businesses not uh the other thing i want to uh speak to is please stay over the holiday weekend so you're going to have kids out so be mindful of them put the golf cart kids please have a wonderful holiday with kids in Councilman Alder. Councilman Droddus.

Pieradita from Costa Rica.

I thought it would only fit if you could put the sunset one last night behind me for a backdrop. So hopefully we're done soon enough and you'll catch another one soon. I look forward to it.

Thanks for logging in, Councilman Droddus. Councilwoman Buehler. Thank you for coming out. And I would a shout out to our city team on the audit report and all of the work that you put into that i've set on other boards where we didn't always have as favorable of an outcome so yay and uh well i just want to say well i just want to say welcome and i got to say this that this is my first audit meeting and i actually understood what was being said i just think that

I'm glad that we're all coming in. I'd like to see more citizens come and talk to us, challenges, and just see what we can do even better. Thank you.

Next on the agenda is the city administrator, please. Please do.

We're going to be back soon.

Thanks for the reports from the staff. Do we have anybody here with a warm heart? That's Interpacted Council Reports and Sales Tax Report, also Interpacted. And Chief, do you want to say anything?

Yes, we just want to shout out congratulations to three of our officers here in the department for receiving awards for the mothers and kids of drunk drivers. Sergeant Randy Rango, Outstanding Leadership Award, Officer Brianna Shelby, Mad Enforcement Hero Award, and Officer Frank Bates. Outstanding Rookie Award. They go out there every night looking to get impaired drivers off the streets. So we are very, very, very proud of what you are seeing. Congratulations to all three.

Yes, congratulations. To the whole department, but to these three individuals. Next is the consent agenda. That's the consent agenda. Seeing there's only one item on it, we can go ahead and address that. 2027 City Human Holiday Schedule. I'm not against the Holiday Schedule, but I would ask that the financial ramifications of the financial effects of adding two additional holidays I live is not imputed in the budget. And I would ask that we approve the holiday schedule based on last year's holiday schedule for just information. The city was not open on watching the program. But when And I'm planning to elaborate on when additional holidays are placed in the calendar, then those holidays must be paid at specific rates for those that are working. And then for the entire, because it is a declared holiday, has to be paid Am I understanding that correctly?

Yeah. Regular employees are paid for that day and they're all in the .

And it's considered holiday pay. And so I would, based on the information from our audit today, that we would prefer adding those two additional days. not totally but until we get the end of this year's autumn so we have a better idea of what our financial position is because uh i don't believe that those monies are put in this year's budget that we have sitting in front of us to approve it

No, the entire, the entire, the entire city.

I believe that the police officers that are off duty, that they would be paid. If it's an off day, that they get up, and I remember my take again, the city may be wrong. You can get a little separate thing for holiday pay if you're out of the world.

So we'll clarify that. We'll clarify that. I just want to clarify. Is that the motion you want to make? Yes.

I make a motion that we approve the holiday schedule based on last year's approved holiday schedule and defer to the two additional holidays until finance can make a determination of how that affects the budget and impute it into the budget. In which two holidays are we? Martin Luther King's birthday and Christmas Eve. Or what would it be? One with an additional, I don't know.

Actually, I think the only two on the day that are going to be pretty good are June 2nd.

Oh, excuse me. June 2nd in Columbus State, but we took one day away from Good Friday, so we're only going to be off for four hours for Good Friday, so the day before. it's actually one day the answer today correct so i would make a motion to table until september 16th we have a motion we have a motion on the floor are you seconding that parents i am not okay so we have a motion on the floor by councilman ford we have a second that fails for lack of a second we have another motion on the floor councilman make a motion the table is not until september 16th so it's definitely like more details we have a second okay we have a motion by councilman darren watts a second by councilwoman floyd all those in favor any opposed motion carries thank you next on the agenda um i need to adjourn our meeting at 440 and open the public hearing at 440. On the public hearing on the City of Pima's fiscal year 2026-2027 proposed tax rate of .1899. Do we have any of the public that would like to speak to this? Do we have any mayor or council deliberations on this? Then I will close the public hearing at 440. And I will open the next public hearing at 440. This is called Public Hearing on the City of Pima's Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Proposed Annual Budget. The public hearing is now open. If there are any comments from the public, seeing none, they are counted to deliberation. None. I will now close the public hearing at 441. We'll open our regularly scheduled city council meeting again at 4.41. 12A, consideration. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. 12A and 12C.

We have a motion on the floor to move 12E between 12A and 12B. Do we have a second? Second. Do we call those in favor? Aye. Motion carries. Any opposed? Motion carries. 12A, consideration of possible action to approve Resolution 2026-33, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Pima, Texas, accepting the results of the fiscal year 2024-2025 financial audit. Do I have a motion to accept the audit? I have a motion to accept the audit for the 2024-2025 fiscal audit. Do I have a second?

Second.

We have a motion by Councilwoman Nguyen and a second by Councilman Moore. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. 12E. Consideration of possible action concerning Hema Oaks sidewalk repairs.

Yes, Mayor, we were asked to bring this item forward as a consideration. As was mentioned by a resident over here and a business owner of the actual neighborhood, there is a desire or a need to fix this. We then held out going to be much more relevant than I am certain technology this is not the only form of solution either way the number that are given to you when you took these numbers or if I haven't I did make a formal request to WCID to please consider supporting this in some form if a lot of these cameras sidewalk sections are near the infrastructure and being under the tech safety because even in the city you're willing to be aware of the new shares on the road I also depending on what I Mr. Beeson? Hi, Madam Mayor and city council members. I do not have control of the slide deck. OK. Yeah, go ahead. So just to give you guys a sense of what we do, our company, Precision Concrete, we offer sidewalk assessment services as well as a cost-saving method of repairing trip hazards for offsets. on sidewalks, we do a horizontal shape repair that is significantly less expensive and much faster in nature than removing and replacing sidewalk panels. And we looked at the neighborhood of Hema Oaks and found a lot of issues in that neighborhood. They're just

Let me switch my screen so I can see what all we found there.

Yeah, when we looked at everything in that neighborhood, offset that we can repair using our method, we found We found in the neighborhood of 2000 a little north of 2000 offsets or trip hazards that can be repaired using our method via horizontal slicing now that's when we look at it at the ADA required starting point which is at a quarter of an inch so any offset or what the ADA calls a change in level the quarter of an inch or more is something that needs to be rectified. Now, not everybody chooses to do that, and that's understandable, especially with finding so many. But we found right at $150,000 worth of repairs that could be made using the horizontal slicing that we offer. Just a little under $150,000 to be exact, $149,923. worth of horizontal slicing repairs. That would be the range of a quarter of an inch up to two inches in height. If you decided to filter that down and not do the ADA required, that would take the number of repairs down somewhat down to about 1,400 repairs, and that lowers the price to $121,156 in repairs. Now, this doesn't quite repair everything. There will still be some that are outside of our scope that would need to be replaced, but I don't know if your department, Mr. Garcia, has the bandwidth to do any of that work in-house, but There's probably another 20 to 30 locations that might require some panels to be replaced. That's not included in this pricing. Mr. Beeson, let me interrupt you for a second. I wanted to note that in total, we're looking at 3.16 miles per side on the team. And yes, there's probably not needed for the other one that I'm talking about. But we're all looking at, again, it's not a quarter amount. I have you guys on the phone. So that's how we're going to stand on what the repair would be. Looks like a total of 266. Next slide, please. If you're not a mid-repeat effector of 6,000, you're on the median of half the repeat. Again, this would take care of all sidewalks, not just the ones that were mentioned earlier. And that gives you a total, on this page on the top right, gives you total cost, top-end cost, average cost per address, and average cost per repair. For repair on 2009, you would need to pay for that. Next slide, please. This technology is a little bit different. It is a planning technology where, essentially, and I will paraphrase Mr. Beeson from Catholic Essentially what they do is they come in and they shave the side wall down to make sure that it's no longer there. That is my opinion, not Mr. Beeson's or that of the company, but that's essentially what they do. These companies resist after automation and we see the way they do it. This page is filled with more of what the cost is usually more than the repair. It looks the same, typically, with what's called R&R, which is the repair and repair side. Next slide.

So you're going to ask me a quick question?

Yes, sir.

What's the life expectancy of this product? Will we get this done if we get it done? Is it five years, 10 years?

So it's not entirely predictable because you don't know what's going on below the surface. But from my understanding, this neighborhood, there's never been any maintenance done. in this neighborhood so you're dealing with a little bit of a deferred maintenance situation here but if there are tree roots that are contributing the mouths could continue to shift some we can't control this one on the ground but with this type of a very large It could be that the ground has moved all it's going to move, and the repair will last for quite some time. But yeah, you cannot predict what's going on, but the idea is using this kind of repair to extend the service life of your sidewalk. On this slide, we're on the screen now. You do look at the number of addresses that you require to complete the that shows you that this technology that this organization does does not fix that. That's an example of what . So just to give you an example of the same issue on the other . Some of those areas are a part of my own infrastructure that . Next slide. This is just more information that shows the color-coded .

Fortunately, this shows the color-coded .

You can see this color-coded area. That's a better explanation of which ones are there. So the red dots represent we think . um yellow is happiness three-quarter of an inch and the green is one quarter of an inch so that's the three different categories and separated because obviously those are the amounts the answer your question again also going back to the council brought up the question on that's not longevity again there's trees there's infrastructure moving equipment you know that happened here in the area You're shaving the amount for the actual width of that sidewalk. If it was a four inch sidewalk and it's up to a two inch mount, you're leaving only two inches of property left. That's something to consider when you're making any changes. I want everybody to say, do we have a sidewalk? I don't know if it's true for those. I gave up a leg here for some reason. Are all those sidewalks four inches?

Probably not.

Some of them will be three and a half. The two before that you use to form up sidewalks, a lot of times you're going to be able to look less than four inches. A lot of municipal governments that use us might change that scope a little bit. We have done engineering studies on normal sidewalk floors cutting up to two inches, and we generally feel really comfortable cutting up to two inches. an inch and a half or an inch and three quarters so we have the data now so it's really easy to uh make those changes in scope as uh as the city does need to do i would also be remiss is that this would have been properly prepared there are many ways to have the best sidewalk you can be filmed but there's no place that i'm going to have to fix there's technology we can lift certain sidewalks and do certain things I want to understand that this is just one student standing by. It's the fastest, and probably right now, based on what we've done so far, most of the amount of them we know could be versus full repair and replacement, honestly. So we want to bring this to the table to show what we've done so far on this, and we'd like to open it up to any questions. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Go for it.

I would just like to bring in a bit of attention that there's 232 homes in Kemah Oaks, just running rough numbers while I'm in Costa Rica, but you already have like $70 million worth of tax value. Yes, I didn't do it house by house, so it's going to be somewhere in that ballpark. So they generate about $130,000 to $125,000 in property tax for the town. So you're talking about, in essence, right, a 380 agreement for a year and a half if we were to fund this whole thing. just so everybody's aware of baseline numbers. I mean, that's exactly what we're doing, is right at 380, we're a year and a half of all the taxes we received out of Keen Oaks.

Do we have anything else? No. I want to say that I fully support working with

on the sidewalk, especially things that are . My concern is, I state it wrong, says, correct me if I'm wrong, for the rep from precision country cutting, you are not an engineering firm, correct?

Correct.

All right. Our legislative law says that any procurement, and this is not a professional contract, above X amount has to go out for bid. This is not a, and I'll fully say that it's an important thing, but it has, I believe that we cannot, in this scope, take this bid without going out, because this is not an engineering problem, without putting it out for bid. And one more thing, where's the money, as Councilman Broaddus always asks me, where's the money coming from? Maybe I missed something when I was looking at the package. I did not see where it was. I'm keeping it in this year's budget.

Well, couldn't we split the budget, pay some of it for this fiscal year and pay some of it for the next year?

We've got less than 30 days. And again, I believe the issue, the concern is that it's not going to stay long in the amount.

So I look forward to answering your question. It is not going to be. It is not a budget item. You just asked to see if there was an opportunity to find out what we were looking at. And I don't know if we had enough time to bring them back, but it's not really a question. It's not an official question. And that's why there's no budget on how to find them. If this is something that you choose to do in the beginning of the year, you don't know how it will end right now. That's out in the open what we're going to do in this situation. Being that you're right at budget season right now, Unless there was an additional change in some of the budget that was on the phone, that would be . So everybody, I'm the one that has . And we discussed this . But we really needed a number. Here again, where the money comes from, the front row of taxes, all that stuff. All those. Brian, how many days of operation do we have in the village? In the general fund, it was at $317,000 or something like that. We have that rate of the day on the growth fund.

That's about $7,000.

said are we still at 80k and operating 50 for four minutes and just to educate the new council members i know what the audience said but there was like a million dollars that kcbc had put into for anders lane we bought the property behind pecto that's that was one of the big reductions in general fund the other thing is is the growth fund, which was supposed to max out at 3 million, and we're at 3.5 roughly now today. So we do have funds available. So for him, I understand as a CPA, as an auditor, you have to state the facts, and then it's the facts. But council in the past, with Robin included, because he's been here the whole 10 years, has left that open for emergencies. So we have like $3.8 million. So we almost got like a

seven or eight months of reserves set in truly the cd budget is where they work i agree but i i asked this question why are we not looking at other people to go and see what they can do i've heard okay this may be a little off the wall but i've seen commercials on tv that talk about carrying that even driveway why couldn't that be done like caesar said earlier this is

these numbers back that is that is your directive tonight if you want to look at other things if you want to bring back other things and also to discuss where the money might come from in the budget we are we are a very uh well-off city in comparison to many others we take into consideration the growth fund and etc and yeah i can respect that i've got a motion Everybody can talk. Do we have a comparative? I mean, this is a repair. And then you said there's, like, if you wanted to address it, like, fully replaced. Do we have a financial comparative of what that looks like?

Yes, you need a system of development.

Okay.

And that's very well tested by the numbers that we've looked at. How many square feet? What do you need to cost? And we'll also say, Richard, is that a good number? You were texting me just now and telling me that you're going to be criminalizing your property. But the reason why we wanted to get a number in place is because it would ask, great, well, what do you think is going to cost? Here's at least a number that we can say, worst case scenario, there's a number to start with that we can say, hey, what do you just look for? So then when you put it out, you cover no effect. And then most of the clients .. When we had this company come out here, they serviced the entire region on the side of all the things that we very well know in a complicated way that each of the side of the market had to be . That's what they're known for. They're . That's the action that we took to bring this back. Also, because if I'm going to go to HEMA, HOA, HOA, HEMA, HEMA hosts HOA, and that's their assistance for WCID, because the first version of the action promised recovery. You know, I'd go to them and say, worst case scenario, we're going to have about 150, 125 cases. What does that look like? It's like three waves, 50 to 50, 50. Don't get that from me. So that's why we took this exercise to do that so far, because it's been a topic of discussion. Thank you. Sorry, does anybody have any questions for me?

I'm sorry. You said that actually the repair and replacement, that large photo that shows quite a bit of a variance between the junction and the sidewalk. Do you have any estimates? Don't do it yourself, but in your sober world, the city administration, y'all are so well-renowned in this field.

So our estimate for that would rely on what you guys typically would pay for when we've been replaced. We don't offer that as a service. But I will say, when you're considering other options, We oftentimes work hand-in-hand with other contractors with the city. We're just another tool in your toolbox. So for the lifting, you could lift on certain ones, the larger ones. We shave the smaller ones. You remove and replace those that are in the worst shape. So a lot of times, the best approach is to use an approach with multiple tools, multiple solutions, not just one. 24 requests that aren't on. About 15,000 based on average square foot pricing. You guys may get a better rate on that if you put it out to bid, but about $15,000. Is that material?

Yes. I have one last question. Are you on my board?

Yes, we are on my board. We are on TIPS. That's what I'm saying.

We've got three new council members. You don't need to explain that because

so with regards to procurement by board is a purchasing cooperative and as well as tips and it is an avenue for vendors such as us to go in and bid and go through the state requirements on bids that they put out and so a good portion of the work that i do for municipalities all throughout the state of texas are done based off of these purchasing partner contracts regarding money.

What company names are listed on this for that site? I guess I'm looking at the wrong spot, because I checked.

I could not find the company's name on the control.

Yeah.

On the control. it's a precision concrete cutting is the name of the company or i don't know about the controller it might be precision sidewalks llc we do business as precision concrete cutting but with regards to what you would find on my board or what you would find on the tips website it would be precision concrete cutting

Any more comments or discussion before Mr. Dixon logs off?

No, we won't comment. We'll talk about it later.

Any other comments or questions for Mr. Dixon? Thank you so much for coming and logging in tonight and allowing us to ask questions. We appreciate it.

Thank you very much. I make a motion to I make a motion to allocate not to I make a motion not to exceed $200,000 out of the growth fund to be allocated to Pima over sidewalks pending pending Caesar's return for chartering back I'll second that

We have a motion by Councilman Oliver, a second by Councilwoman Thorne. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? No. Councilman Roddick voted yes. Motion carries. And the idea that I would, just to be clear, the Councilman's motion established not to exceed the amount, but it does not commit the city at this point to any... one method or one contract. Correct? That's correct. Thank you. Next on the agenda, 12D, consideration and possible action regarding hotel occupancy tax. Also in this top one, sponsorship applications. You have a piece of paper with some yellow highlighting on it. It's what we have given to in the past and how much and who has proposed for this year, etc. I believe that Devin and Cesar worked on this up until a few hours ago, so they're probably best at answering your questions if you have any questions and or comments.

Before we start, I mean, today, why don't you kind of deal with how many But they have not made the cut-off to apply this year. So we made that recommendation. They're . Hadn't they applied or whatever. So we were seeing . After speaking to some of the folks that did not apply, they haven't . They just . So if you would like to take that into consideration today, The board car tournament is a tournament that was held recently. That is an estimated amount of . Otherwise, we noticed a total amount of the 5-4, we have $100,000 budgeted. and the estimate that's shown in the proposal is a breakdown of where these are, considering if you wanted to take on a proposal or anything major to it, the column that says adopt would be whatever you'd like to assign to it. Obviously, we're not assigning anything totally different than yellow, because they have to get to the formula in common. Historically, you wanted to leave a certain amount of cushion as well for any event that may come up during the year that might be a special event or explain that pressure to him. But if you did, why didn't you let him pay in front of him, not settling in, but he's been sober for the last three years.

I have a question about .

Are you still planning to do this on a virtual?

Or is that the idea still? I know you talked about it last year.

Yes, it's my understanding that there's a development project around the bridge. I think the completion of that, of course, we all know those state projects tend to extend themselves. That would be ideal for us to have in the bridge. But if not, then it'd be generally right now being under the discretion of the board of law. So, yes. Not that they've ever did. But should they do that, there's no way they're going to be gun-locked. I just feel like if we're going to do it, I think we should do it now.

Here's my question, Dustin. What is your mind-pass? Dustin, what is the word of our mind-pass? Do you have two?

We need one screen and one call.

I know. We don't need to compete with each other or complement each other one or the other but i'm just saying but i think you already built the hotels already so i mean i don't think that's a good idea so i mean um there's gonna be some coordination here because i'm like you're already into what i would envision in my head that way you would have a city parking in most parts of the world.

I just wanted to make everybody aware that the program may not be available for public consumption to ensure that there's

Yeah, the dates for next year.

that can cater for all and something to do with it.

I'm good with most of this. I mean, I think, I think the magazine, supportive of team living, you can get the hotel rooms, makes a lot of sense. The quality of the location, a lot of people like it. It's Rome. I think it makes a lot of sense. The wine festival, which I thought was my concern. Trumpetry. It's good we're trying to monetize it, and the community's always happy to read it. My two cents. Children of fallen soldiers, I mean, they sort. The last couple years, I don't think we've given them any. So it used to be a bigger number. It fits the families and the hotels. Honestly, this is the first time I've seen an avian protection group over here. Fishing, I think, makes a lot of sense. He don't talk, I hear questions, he don't talk when we get to it. We know the ones that just have issues, we know, are these the numbers that they're gonna ask for, or do we know if those are .

Well, I said it to the end of the day, and she would, yeah, I'll repeat what I was saying, but that's what we, she's been, our creative life has been in the last year.

That makes sense. Top is 10K, you don't want to scrap that. Hard tournament, I think it makes a lot of sense. That seemed to have a good draw and a good throw in. You know, I was told he's going to do a lot of space here sooner than later here in the city. So, he's also partnering with the city on the Pokemon Aperture. I think that's a good draw. So, I think that makes a lot of sense. Got to go crazy with all this popular stuff. I mean, I don't know how to put it up to you on top of the thing. I'll let y'all kind of figure it out.

I mean,

I'll stay out of the discussion. I'll also . I just wanted to comment to remind everybody that every company requires or requests . The other amounts directly. We do have a question on . One thing that we're pursuing is we are pursuing But it's never been done before, so it is . Obviously, you know this would be more . So we try to separate as to where . We've addressed this several ways in the past.

necessary, but that is also an option is to meet prior to the next meeting and workshop with the board of commission if you so choose to do that. How much do we have in reserve? If we're allocating roughly $100,000, if we follow this as it is, what do we have in reserve for things that come up? The total budget? We have to go back.

Okay.

I don't want to put it in my Now I'm just curious if we have, what percentage we have in reserve for things that you might not be aware of.

Yeah, that's why we have a meeting about this. Okay. And also, all of this is depending on the fact that you don't have to pay any attention. And I'm just wondering if you have that.

Yeah, the fund balance for the hot, I can't put it on the top of my head, but I know that it's great, and that's,

I know I tend to talk a lot, so you don't have to go down the list. I did read the, and so I have questions on this, but this is what we can do. When I read the application, and I did read it, it said that you were putting the item, your publication, in the hotel. So they're already at the hotel. So I remember my mom, when advertisers put their information in that paid ad for your organization. So it does not necessarily put in local, unless they buy ad pages, it does not include local ad pages for organizations in the area. I had, that's why I had some concerns because my plan with my funds is, is to head to this if they're already there. So I, I'm not.

I think the spirit of the language there was, um, the community magazine, especially if you look at it from a place-making perspective, that magazine operates as a de facto visitor site.

And so it's not having the magazines in the hotel lobby.

It's having a magazine in your hotel room. That was the relation.

The human living does a great job of emphasizing all the great things that we have in town, local businesses, events, et cetera. And the idea was to expand and reach so that that information is more available to the tourists. Thank you.

So I'll go down my list. And for, I don't have any prospects of the best vision. and actually i would have liked to be seen because it is especially with your um partnership with elusive it was fast both on james beard and winning chef i was here with the city direction i was chef so i'm actually uh interested in bumping that one up and taking paul's They've been here in the past, and it's a worthy organization. There are plenty of worthy organizations. Their appetite really has been to, I mean, it was for gift cards. It was to pay for the, so if we want to talk to Beth and give them a break time, that's fine, but I think the American people did what she was here to do during that time frame. It was, so we ended up moving around much as opposed to where we went to bed. Now again, this is just the opinion of me. So I would like to see that amount of $2,500 or that amount moved up to Cuba Wine Fest so that they would have um then zero for the arts you want to give a token amount to uh so children of fallen soldiers um definitely on the um elite issue and did the king of world war get 35,000 last year okay and that's that's kind of a no-brainer because They do provide support multiple times through the year. I was a little concerned.

I mean, . I know we've given that.

Before that, it was very important .. That's why we . So 19 last year, so we're doing $15, basically $15.

That's the recommendation. Your return is made because it's not successful.

And I know this is going to probably get me in hot water.

So I'll join the hot water. But she wrote the poem. I read the application. This will pay for the hotel for the magician. So that, in my opinion, defeats the purpose of it. But what I would like to suggest, and the communications director can speak to this, in that e-literature that she sent out, there's money from the state, and if they didn't And they said they were on, I did not go in depth with the application, but they said they were on five. You did not have to be declared a safe, a used city to do it. So to work hand in hand with them to apply for those funds from the state. And I respectfully say zero to people in Tom. And I've already told you about the other, But I certainly wasn't going to have no confidence. It doesn't make sense to pay for doing the same thing as with the Father Church. Because the other thing was, I believe, when we looked at the, there was only a 2% increase in hotels, for instance, for the boardwalk from last year. And that's from their own data. And now, okay, I did read. So I know I've talked too much, but that's it.

So the thing, the border office, I don't want to mention it, but I have to probably go back to the period. The thing about that two million times, right, they have not applied in the past. I think about all the services we gave them, so what we did from them, they were probably going to spend $16,000. We're not going to spend $16,000. We're not going to spend $17,000. We're not going to spend $17,500. We're not going to spend $17,500. We're not going to spend $17,592. We thought of a modest $7,500 as a suggestion, but again, it would be whatever you would like to put you on.

But we have not funded them in two years. Correct.

And they have not applied. They have not applied, and they would like to apply again this year. They are probably more than we've done on September's cost. And part of what they're doing is for attendance. But the major help that they need, not actually not from the hotel or from the hotel, was more to try to get the vehicles, the veterans here, the families here, and some more transportation for us to get from here. And we're also trying to work with them to get them to go to transportation so that they can get out there and do their field work. It is a pretty well-designed event. And it is part of the whole entire family thing that we can do. The collaboration that we do as well as the event that we do with the Chamber and so on. Transparency of the years, they didn't apply. Just for those that weren't here.

And then the idea of protection, we didn't fund that either.

So that is the name of the applicant, the organization that they used to fill out the form. It's the body here.

So it's an amendment that we funded prior to understanding. But did we fund it last?

Well, I don't.

necessarily get a vote, but I will make some comments. I think that the, I agree with Councilman Oliver, the Trump Retreat event, while we've been a city event for locals, I don't think that I would like to see that monetized, so to speak. Some of the ones that we have not funded in the past year or two, I'm okay with passing that i think that you know the annual boat parade is almost a given we do that every year i think we've had a lot of success with our works and the elite fishing series i would support for your life as well and we have any comments down here i'll just have that support for councilman foreman's correct information

Do you have, on these different groups, do you have projections on how many people will miss the funeral? It varies. Some of the impacts vary. Some of them do bring a decent amount of fuel into town. Some of them are paying for the lodging in the town.

That's part of it. I guess my other question could be, do we have anything in retrospect from hotel usage when we have these events where we see increased stay and capacity?

We do have a tool library that we could use to look at some of the base requirements. The one thing that I've also encouraged every applicant to do that I've talked to professionally is the more that we can ask them to at least attempt to pursue a total loss.

That's why it's pretty accurate tracking the data and shows the movement to save the need.

So I've encouraged them to do that.

Okay. And then...

I will say that Mariana has actually reached out to me with fireworks. It's like a big...

and some of these things don't stay in control maybe some of the participants do but i know the fishing series all of them have their boats and their trails and they want these in their mirror of that and you know so it's just that that was an anomaly

They have some education.

And is there a reason that we reduced the board law amount?

I think, actually, because of the amount of applicants that we had, we wanted to spread it out to the union.

OK.

So I think that that was the consideration we were doing. So traditionally, we went from three years in number back to 20-24, 20-15, 20-25, 30-30, and then . But again, He's saying that every year, there's a . So I think that . Yeah. Well, see, they did bring up the fact that Home 2 is going to come on board with what?

. Latest expected date of the right now is . Yeah, I'm not saying. So we have the hotel with 83 rooms on board.

So I'm going to .

tight soon, something like April afterwards.

And it may be from wrong, but didn't we change the rules a bit a year or so ago where they're paid based on the receipts, not up front like we used to do several years ago?

Correct. So we'll have to sometimes ask for, like, paper and papers and personal progress in front. We know that we're going to establish events, but we're going to see if we can achieve that. We established ourselves, and we're going to set up Yes, all final damage or not until the policy is put in. So just to kind of fill the rest of the sheet out, looks like I've put in the, it sounds to me like it's going to be a lot of work, but it's not going to be. It's going to be a lot of work, but it's going to be a lot of work, but it's going to be a lot of work. So the last column is what we've been discussing this morning. Does anyone have a boardwalk number for fireworks that

they would like to suggest that most could agree on? I personally hate the fireworks because my dog has anxiety. However, I recognize the benefit of it. We have little drugs for him to take on Fridays. But I think we ask a lot of the board members. And, you know, they help us with sales tax. They help us draw. So I'm not opposed to actually bumping that to $40,000 because there is return on investment there.

Yeah. I'm going to say this about the boardwalk. Anytime you have fireworks out there, the residents of the Huntington, they pull chairs out from around the veranda. They bring snacks from home and

Who's sitting out there enjoying herself?

It fills the city up. Everybody not unless it's raining or something. People at every little pocket park and they have to eat before or after. They have a good time.

It's also good to know the fact that the city is doing that. I know it's not forever, but it does help them identify themselves. That means it's part of the purpose and people in this community pay for it. That's where you get it. That's where you get media.

Because I just have a burden to pay for it. So I would like to support that.

for the best . The only thing I can say is that we typically have the recommended amount that we have right now, $6,000. But if you like the heat of that suggestion of stopping that, we're recommending $6,000 for that.

And are we not going to consider any awards that didn't

And I have a slightly stupid question. What is the whole Ford car tournament? Go ahead. They're located over there next to Lanier, the coffee shop. And they're busy all the time. And people who are into it are really into it. Should that happen? Do we have a motion of sort? I mean, so we counted that. I need to motion that we accept part edited from the office. Set it on the screen now. Okay.

And do you want to... including that motion, the ones that traditionally apply, that we could still consider to a certain amount, or do you want to not do that at all? Can we come back to that one? Pardon?

It's up to you as far as that item is concerned. If you want to do that, you can do that in your motion. I'm going to play it with you. It would be to approve the adopted draft that is on the screen, and then we can see if any changes are going to be made to addressing them as applications.

Okay, so I'm going to amend the motion. I make a motion to approve the worksheet that is on the screen for everyone that we have identified. Do we have a second? So we have a motion by Councilman Luebner. Councilman Luebner. And a second by Councilman Moore. All those in favor? Any opposed? have one no and the rest of the positive so emotion oh and one abstaining so we have three in favor and motion hearing um 12c next on the agenda consideration possible action to approve Resolution 2056-34, a resolution to update the City of Hema, Texas fee schedule on the week that, well, it is in your packet, and I believe NOLA, did I skip something? And the fees are listed more in the back of that area,

And I think the page that if you look at 374 and 375,

You can see the permit fees that we have currently in the proposed permit fees. And all of them go up from $50 to, you know, $350 or $400. They vary in amount all the way down. I went and did the math today. And, of course, the largest increase is the new commercial construction. That's an increase of roughly $6,000. But the rest of them are all in the $50, $300, $150, $60, that kind of thing.

I just want to say thank you to Anola and Jerry for their time. I think it was February when we did this initiative and we actually put this on board and we come back and forth. Anola has spent hours and hours and hours researching other towns. We've had conversations, you know, what makes sense for FEMA. I think it's Because it's the closest we're ever getting to that.

I ditto that. That's a lot of work over a long period of time. We appreciate it very much. We'll kind of do it again. The parks. The last time I looked at the material for the county, because it is a county park, It's my opinion that it's stated in the contract that we cannot charge for the use of . Well, again, the last time, and I slept a few nights since I looked at that contract, but that would have to be addressed. And in addition, when... I found it a little ambiguous. I am all for, for instance, and for full disclosure, I am a part of an organization that has used the community center, I think we've used it once in three years, in the past three years, privately to do their community service of marketing change, their service of celebration. For full disclosure. It's ambiguous on when they pay the cleaning fee. I'm not against it, but I think it needs to be in there so that organizations are not shocked with, oh, okay, we want you to pay the cleaning fee. It should be some method of doing that. In addition, and... We had some with the Get More Foundation, which I have not associated with, but it is a 501c3. On social media, they have used the interchange to display their donations. And correct me if I'm wrong, they're storing their goods when they have the major drives in city facilities of the community. And I could be wrong. I live. So just a little bit of, because we've got the seniors, we've got the lines. So when that fee is imposed, because we don't want to put them, they're very small organizations. And I can't speak to them anymore. But they're very small organizations and have limited budget. So we're looking at when that's taught. I just think that should not just be, oh, oh, by the way, give me $300. I'm not saying that it's not right, but just a little bit more direction. That's all I had on that. Those three items. Any other comments or discussion? We have a motion on the floor. I make a motion to approve resolution 2026-34 as stands. Second. All those in favor? Well, we have a motion by Councilman Whelan. A second by Councilman Moore. All those in favor? Aye. Do you oppose? I oppose. Natasha, did you get all that?

Thank you

and body-work camera systems.

This is just one more information. I want to commend Captain Reeves and Chief Gary to invite for additional funding um did i read correctly so we still have to do intent uh uh 25

Any other questions or comments? Or Chief or Captain?

We have a motion to approve the $4,000 grant.

Second. We have a motion by Councilman Justin Oliver. Second by Councilwoman Buehler. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. We've already done 12B, 12F. Thank you, Justin.

It's no secret that I was on board with the grant funding for this technology. I don't know that I would vote the same way. Maybe I would. I don't know. But it's just been a lot of news. I felt it was worth discussion. I didn't want any action on here just yet. But, you know, chief and of these leadership teams that go around town and discuss with the public what their internal controls are that they are doing to um other options or adding layers to that to make the public and residents feel more comfortable i don't know if that's going to work long term i mean it sounds like the governor has canceled all funding for this and everybody that's on a ballot how that works um i just wanted that i want to really just want to achieve or capture reason to at least say on the record that it's not just in the neighborhood what the scene is doing um and i know i've i've got a couple questions to ask so um So if you can answer the questions you wanted when I was bringing it back to you, I want to make sure that we got the information.

Do you want to give it over to me? I'm good either way, Mayor.

We've had some discussion about this. We see the concerns. And I'm going to say it again. I'm almost 100% sure we're not going to have that. at the policy procedure. It clearly states that if you violate it, I'm going to fire you, and I'm going to go to the district attorney's office and proceed charges. Every one of our officers signed off on that. We have now limited our access to the cameras, to supervisors, and dispatchers only. We've taken away from the officers. I hate doing that because I know they're not going to violate it, and I wanted our citizens to feel better about that, that not everybody in the department is going through the cameras now through the system. It's now supervisors, dispatchers. I just hope it's not a day that dispatch is answering several 911 and a block camera goes off saying, hey, alert, we have a robbery suspect that just went down, you know, 2094. We hope that doesn't happen. We've done our part to educate. We let them know anytime we see a negative story, we share it with the entire department. This is what we do not do. I can't speak for other departments, but I can tell you that our citizens can feel comfortable that their police department is not going to violate their trust with these troops. So we've made those steps. We went out to meet with folks in King Oaks, we heard their concerns. Councilman is always in my ear, because they're in his ear, and I think so are y'all that reached out. We're doing it right. It's sad to see that others have not, but this is a very good tool for us. I've said it before, right now, I hate the only number out there, there's three options. One accident up here on this podcast, All three of them were tied up with that call. These are extra police officers that are out there standing guard at different corners, keeping an eye on things. If things were to go bad, we'll be able to solve them right here and then. Get my detectives a couple of days, and then we'll go back through those cameras, and hopefully have a good percentage of catching the bad guys that did something over at the border walk or over at Walmart because we were out here busy dealing with all three of our officers. officer to bring them on board with training, salary, all the benefits of $100,000. I mean, $100,000 to get you four more officers and we're talking about it. Obviously, we just went through an entire budget. We know we can't do that. So again, this is definitely a powerful tool that we need to help us when you're asleep to protect our citizens or the people who live here. And of course, the 4 million visitors come see us every year. You just said it's crazy, right? In one night, this has been the numbers, 15,000 people were here on the 4th of July. We know that those cameras are helping us while we're making sure people are safe getting across the street, across 146. I mean, so that is just an amazing tool to have. All I can just do is reassure the citizens in this community. We have brave cops at work here and they are going to be like

Chief, I just have a question. I've read some of the criticism on my Citic law, and it's saying that this was a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

How would you respond to that?

Sir, I don't remember saying it, but it was on one of my emails. It said...

We would like to solicit any questions that you guys have. I'm trying to get it back on the agenda, but also to allow for you guys to contact us if you have any questions.

And our deadline for the next event, if that's what you need to do for the next time.

I don't know if you have any questions. Thanks for your time. I have one. Thanks for your time.

Thank you for doing that.

It came up in the board of one day for the discussion. We kind of talked about it long before that. So that's fair enough. One thing, you have also talked about it, but I don't know if the public has heard from you, is do I have a way to limit access to cameras? I know the answer to that, but come back to it. who spent grant money on this program. I think the general public needs to understand what an exit grant is financially to them. And what penalties would we, should we answer the program? That's kind of the wish of the resident. You know, even if that dollar amount is a fault of what it could be. And then a follow-up question, based on the views of the governor, I don't think I really want to pay him back. I think he's just back of his own. okay so there's a lot to go on today so that's why i'm saying there's a lot of you people are going to do this subject but i just it's easy to say let's just take them all down maybe you understand financial impacts and that's your vision but i understand your concerns those are my big ones um unfortunately this problem is not going away i mean social media is probably going to solve it

Well, my vision would be if, for some reason, we decided to remove you, and from a strategic plan standpoint where we're saying safety is our first priority for citizens and tourists, then it's the piece that you're talking to. What would we need to consider from the investment, from police coverage, and then to be competitive in this area in hiring top panelists and stabilizing when we're looking at 2027 and the budget's forward. And then I think the taxpayer needs to understand there's a cost of that to them.

So I'm losing a good one now. A sergeant's fixing to leave me to work for Harris County. We invest a lot of time, money. He's one of our best. He walked by me yesterday and didn't even want to see me. He said, I don't want to leave. I don't want to leave. It's about chasing me home. these two guys to work with they're looking at the numbers trying to figure out how we can come back next year and be competitive with other agencies and we're going to look out to one of the associations uh tmpa across the community study with other agencies but we're trying to keep them here they love them around here they love what you got they love their community but we're always competing with the dollar um before we got here a couple of years ago we cut two and a half officers because we needed new body cameras and tasers at that time. We never got those officers back. So we seem to be going backwards when you have four million visitors coming to this town. Again, one major call takes all of them out of it. Luckily, we have partners in Seabrook that do help us, but they're all so short. We have Clear Lake Shores, and we have one or two officers on, so the town has one. We've got to help them instead of them coming and helping us. Again, at $100,000 an officer, roughly, to put one back on, you know, it's going to be a bigger deficit for us on our budget. So again, all I'm going to do is just keep advocating to keep these cameras and keep taking, you know, just, we need those additional, I call them officers, but that's what they are. They're out there right now. While we're here right now, they're out there doing what we need them to do. Doing, you know, things, picking up plates, violators, There was just one sent to Texas. Kidnapping, it was a carjacking. Literally within two hours, there was a kid in the backseat, I believe. They captured that person because of the camera footage. It's going to be tough, but I know he's been working with us, both of them have. We're looking at possibly bringing on more if we can somewhere down the road. If not, at least increasing, trying to increase the number of officers, trying to keep the good quality that we have here now. that already understand the culture of chemo, that understand the people of chemo, that understand the visitors of chemo. Every time you bring in someone new, you're starting all over again, teaching them the chemo. I say that in a powerful way. So I appreciate you reaching out and asking that. I hope we don't have to go there, but eventually we will if we continue having them.

I just think we need to educate the public on the pros and cons and the costs. And there is a price for safety. And there's a price to keep our officers safe.

And I just think... $225,000 a year costs, honestly. So, for every officer, you have to go to the street, $225,000. $225,000 a year.

And it always keeps up with the numbers.

And another question I have here is, can you verify when you walk You know, I'm going to go ahead and address that and help you online.

So we had 41 cameras that they're not all LPR readers. Only 18 of those are license plate readers. The rest are just cameras that are out there in case something should go wrong. It's just safety cameras. So everybody, we have 41 LPR readers. That is not correct. There are only 18 of them. And the other cameras are actually on craters that we move around. When we got the Fourth of July, we had one at Walmart, and we moved one over on Sixth Street. Those cameras are very important to us. Matter of fact, we had a drive-by shooting a few months ago. Our camera was sitting right there, captured the vehicle, captured the muzzle blast right there. We had an assault the other night in our city that We were told something differently. Captain gets on, gets a supervisor online, gets in the camera. We had, it was all captured, the entire assault, the man being drug out to the street because of these safety cameras, not LPR cameras. To clarify, Mary, thank you for asking that. There are only 18 of those 41 cameras that have LPR readers on them. So all we have, we need 41 cameras up there. That is not true. Only 18 of them have LPR readers on them.

Is there any other discussion or questions for Jake or Captain? One question to add to this, and I know you're not there, and I'll provide you with it. I realize it's a different reason, but the president has always stated what they plan on the next evolution

I just want to say thank you again. You guys are amazing. Instead of just jumping the gun and making a decision, you're actually wanting to take input. This man calls me all the time, and he's listening to his constituents. We're here to work together as a team. Awesome.

Thank you. If there's no further discussion, would you not have an executive session tonight? Are there any other comments or anything before we adjourn? We'll adjourn the meeting at 6.01.