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What was No idea.

Thank you. Any other road? Um, question

our property. I don't know that I just came because ask me come and find out about what was planned and the easement that granted on the inside of this our ement is 15. It was ingress and egress not for any that. So we turned by talked to the water company. They said that their responsibility stops at the bottom of the hill right at the street and that any water that ran up there has to be done by the owner. We don't know where that water runs but it shouldn't run through our ingress and eress only and we're not really imposed. We're not if there is a utility cutting across our property of it necessary steps to make sure and we also see in the pictures is and wondering what nature of the

15T there ever built. Our twofold question is my understanding fine. That's the end of the road. I just Not that we're just It's a No. I'm sorry. It's the No Camp Nature Preserve. It's about a 1500 acre nature preserve and we own the property immediate south of the property. We also own to the immediate west that's just on the corner. We have a number of parcels but like 43 different parcels uh and uh the one parcel is there and we have a easement that goes to the northeast corner. Um it's very it's relatively short. It's probably under 100 ft long. Um, and it it was when the cars when Miss Carr and I've never met her, when they purchased the property, they did not have any easement at all. And so the nature preserve granted them that easement to be able to get to their landlock property.

You threw me when you said nature preserve. This is a private It's a private nature preserve. Board of directors. We have our own board of directors. Yes, sir. Not a state dedicated. No, sir. Not at all. None. Okay. Really great girls summer camp. Yes, we do. And we have we have 25 miles of hiking trails and u and it's it's been around for over 80 years. Step up to the map and show us the area that you're talking about. I'll be happy to.

All right. So, we'll have to change the picture. I I don't think so. Our our property is covers this entire southern border. Can you guys see the mouse here? I'm sorry. Screen. I'm sorry. Yep. I'm moving the mouse. So, they all of it. Nope. It's not touch screen. Never mind. Okay. No. No. I'm a touched everything. Stop everything. everything from here

across and then we continue on over here. This is Mr. White's property up here. Over here are a number of different owners. I think the Hendershots and uh and um some other people own on this side. Um but we own right to here and then and this from here if you draw if you have the pencil come down from there to there that's the the extent of the easement that crosses the nature preserve. The rest of this easement that goes all the way out is on someone else's property. And I think they're maybe here to talk about that, too, but I don't know. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else? Thank you.

Anybody else? Okay. Bring it back up to the board. Ask for people and support. Sorry, that's why we're all up here with you, Carol. Yeah, I appreciate that. And I hear you well. Any opposed to the petition? Come up to microphone, sir.

I live at 860. I can't hear you. You have to speak. My name is Bil Dudley. I live in the 860 Grand and our used on my property and the water line does go through this. It's a little his little ft. It may be I I I have not walked it. It's a lot.

Sir, converse with us audience. Thank you. Anyway, my major concern with the development is the water problem with the driveway. The driveway is impassible, right? All the water comes off of the hill, floods my property, and you can see the pictures that I have taken. This driveway when it was installed many years ago was never intended for this kind of use. Now, it's going to be a multifamily situation. If the driveway needs to be completely redone and from the from starting at the bottom of the hill up, most of the water actually comes off of the second most water comes from the top of the hill and just starts barreling down the hill. And I had um out to put in my driveway and put in from my home. And we also did some talk about the driveway. He said it's impossible. You can't fix it until someone goes up there and put like red or stuff like that in the ditches to control the erosion that's happening because first responders can't even get up and hit the truth. They stopped at my house twice last year asking how to get a hold of her because they won't shape and she can blank me and say that it's because I'm not grading it but I am. I mean, I can't You see the pictures? You can't control that.

What pictures are you referencing? I saw a few board members.

Yes.

So, the pictures we saw, were those taken by you or these So, I've got these photos. That's the wash at my at the bottom of my hill looking up the driveway. So, when you say your picture, is that what you're referring to?

That's my picture. That's my property. And that's the wash out that's coming from off of the eastment on my property. It runs down the driveway all the way to the camp. It never hit the ditch. It's going down on the driveway. Well, only 15 ft wide. There's not enough room to do a ditch on both sides of the and still have the road, right? Is that what Waggler said? Well, what Wagglers was telling you that I can't put a C on my part of the little driveway because it would just fill with muck,

right? Because that that driveway needs ditched or cr even if you crown it, it's still going to go off the side and there's no needs to be crowned one way or the other and preferably to the right because there is a ditch that goes all the way down the right between me and other persons all the way to the county road there that should be used. I actually own that property on that side so there's no reason the water can't go that way. limit. Any other questions?

Is there anybody else that wants to speak against the petition? I'm Bonnie Cars in the driveway. I have sent Mr. a letter informing them of my intention. I actually already have made for concrete on the steep portion of the driveway which will be 5 in thick with mesh 8 ft wide. I also have a plan to grade it just in accordance the way that Mr. do the same over to the right so that the water will so drainage will not be affected will also be much sturdy and able to as far as the water utility it runs up directly next to the driveway so it's possible that it does pass through a little bit of the not own campus property but it always has that's where my water comes so since I own the property the water the city water has come right through There would be no addition when this be done as soon as the weather permits. I actually had it already set up to do but Mr. and Mrs. steadly interfered and had to get lawyers involved and they finally realized that the I did have the right to maintain the ement that way. So, it set me back about three weeks. So, it would be done now already. Um, it'll be done as soon as I can get company in a few days. Good weather in probably next three weeks.

I'm curious where's the power? come up a completely different area of the property. If you pull up the map, I can show you where they come up from. They come up from Charlie. So, they're all overhead.

Anything else? Thank you. Anyone else wishes to speak? Okay, I bring it back up to the board for discussion.

I have a question for Dave. Dave, in my experience time on this board, we've had a couple of issues with easements and driveways and all of that. Is there anything that's stopping her from subdividing that parcel because because there is an easement that crosses two other properties there. Does that prevent her as legally anyone present any future?

That would be an issue between the parties involved in the easement. I'm just looking subdivision requirements and I haven't seen anything that relates to this. So if if uh nature preserves they um you're actually increasing the burden of by subing and you can't do that. That would be up to them. They would say you can't run water on that. That would be up to them. But as far as this board is concerned, there's there's nothing that's require variance or anything like that from subdividing.

Not that I can find in your standards.

Any other questions? I got a couple comments that need addressed if we go forward. Okay.

I would like to see the uh joiners lines where they intersect the property. There's a couple of joiners that need to be adjusted. And then also the easement line. Could it be changed to a dashed line? You know, change line type the scale of it to be more dashed. the subject property the surge or has the incorrect section tip and range and then you might get with Kayla on the owner certificate portion the notary portion and the yeah there's another piece here there's a couple different certificates we look at make sure they match the county certificates Anyone else?

Tim, did you have a chance to look at this early on? I did. Yes. So, your comments are basically based on review. Uh, this my second review. Okay. told you just spotted it just now.

Anyone else? So this eastment is basically access and ingress. That's how the DMV. Yeah. Utility eastment. The way I understand a utility easement was that was for the utilities where an ingress ement was for a home. Is that incorrect? Is that a false assumption?

Um my understanding that an accessment is not including utilities. Um I don't know if it's possible on this. So you can't based on the record you could say they could not resolve Carol goes first.

What do you think? Well, you know, so I'm just kind of reviewing my book. Okay. the east loop that's down the lower part going all the way down to Valley Branch that already has utility running AC running with it to get up to um block number one because there's a house and and the barn up there. Okay. So, um, my technical brain is wondering if they have to have another pipeline.

If the water company says their responsibility like their meters at Valley Branch, then yeah, they would run another water to any you agree with that another water line would have to be. Okay, that the technical part I wanted to understand. I mean, I guess theoretically you could tie in on that property above the easement, but I I mean, I wouldn't feed a house with it, you know? It's just that's a long way to push. It could be a two or three. I mean,

right. You really don't know. Um, I again I don't know that it matters what as far as what the board's here to decide is it's okay for her to break off 10 acres and I don't see any reason why not to I mean I don't see that the reasons that have been brought up would be this board's responsibility to enforce is my I'm trying to emulate what I'm saying. But I hope that makes sense. I don't know that we can not because of that.

I don't know that it can stop us, but I would highly recommend that it be talked out and addressed and figured out. I'm sure something could be figured by the parties by the parties. I would encourage you to reach out to your neighbors and say, "Hey, what what can we do? Could I ask you to step back up to the microphone, please? I have a question for you. You had indicated that you contracted a contract or a contractor to address some of these issues. Yes.

As far as Okay. And you gave a timeline as well.

It was supposed to be done in October, but um when I sent a certified letter to my neighbors for Dies, they were not in agreement with the work being done and thought that it upon the property in some way, even though an Eastman is of course not subject to private property regulations. So I consulted with my lawyer Art Jones in Bloomington and he told me that I do have the right to maintain the ement and so I reset up with the contractors. I said the way is clear now. You can do the work that actually agreed that the work could be done. So at this point we're all in agreement and it's just a matter of time and weather until the cement can be. So they've agreed to do the work.

Yes, sir. But they didn't really say time or weather. Did they give you kind of a Well, it was going to be late October, but because of that tomorrow not agreeing, it got pushed back. They got busy with other jobs and now I have to get back on their docket, but I've been assured it should be within the next few the next few weeks. Yes, sir. And believe me, I'm anxious to have it done. Thank you. Any other questions? Can I speak up for a second?

I did her down. Did you guys slow her down on the concrete work because she doesn't realize that previous owner pou concrete on the handle? Didn't out. They pushed it to the side and left it. It still sitting there to this day. And I didn't want that in my property. And that's why I ask her to please and address the water issue because that's what happened in the last concrete. It got washed out. If it's not done properly, it will end up the same way as this one. There's a pile of concrete. I didn't take pictures of it, but there is pictures of her. I can get pictures of the concrete. That's the only reason I asked her to slow down because If you don't do it right, it's just going to be a waste of money for her and me to come around and try to fix it. Well, that's why we go, "Slow down. Let's make sure it's right." And she's not even told me what they're doing as far as the angle, how the how the water's going to go. She just said it's been addressed. So, I got cross fingers and it's done. That's why I said slow down slowly and Thank you. Anyone else? Right. I have a question. I'm sorry. Does your contractor is he aware that this was done before? It's obvious when you look at the driveway where there was cement. Um it affects the non camp portion as well and it's broken. and it looks like it was poured very thinly and wasn't reinforced and the frame was not I accounted for. That was of course years before I lived there. So can't really speak to exactly what they did. But it is true that there was once concrete for at the top of the hill and it came to a bad end but the

company that I'm working with has been doing and residential concrete ping for 30 years and they really know what they're doing. They're aware of it.

Yes. And water management was the main criteria on my list of things that we needed to include. It's absolutely true that there's no sense to put it there if it's just going to wash out. Anything else, guys? All right. So, do I have a motion? What's the wording for this?

Approve or not approve. Approve the subdivision. Make a motion to approve. Number motion to approve docket number 25-P. Nope, that was the wrong one. 05 05 with adjustments.

Let me uh let me know my comments. Jackhead that we approve the request for minor subdivision document number 25-5 as presented byation of property under second I'm sorry with the amendments uh how do you want to reference those the corrections to the plat Platision revision.

Who?

All right. Carol, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion carries.

Thank you. Next on the next petition. Okay. This is staff report for leggings replat docket number 25-p6 hearing date November 18th 2025 request replat of blocks number 11 and number 13 of the children's edition to the town of Nashville petitioners car Barnett of foresight surveying property owner Susan leggings location the properties are located at 333 redund in Washington Township within the town of Nashville. Zoning and current land use. Both properties are zoned residential one. Southern lot has a residence and garage and the northern lot has a garage. General findings. One, the subdivision control ordinance provides the following sub following definitions for free subdivisions or flat. A change in the map of an approved or recorded subdivision flat. If such change any street layout on any such map or area reserve there on the public use or any hotline or if it affects any map or plan recorded prior to the adoption of these regulations. Two, petitioners requesting approval to replat lots number 11 and number 14 of the Schultz addition to the town of Nashville.

Three, the combined acreage of the lots is approximately 1.21 acres. The new lots will contain the following acreage. Lot number 11, 0.49 acres. Lot number 14, 0.72 acres. Four, there is an existing 25- ft drainage access and utility easement that will remain and continue serving both lots. According to the new legal descriptions, part of lot 2A, which is 490, will contain approximately.563 acres, while part of lot 2B, 496, will contain approximately.5 acres. Six, the minimum lot size in R1 zoning districts within the town of Nashville, 6,000 square ft. Seven plot of the property will not reduce either lot below the minimum size the minimum lot size requirement nor will it have a negative impact on setback requirements. Summary. The property line adjustment is minor and should not adversely impact the developmental standard requirements for either lot. Picture of the existing house and garage. Picture of the northern the garage on looking at lane. That's the end of the report. Any

other questions for right now?

23% 18 return. So, as far as I understood, what you were saying is that this is within approval of the national um rules as far as block size.

Yes. Anybody else? Is the petition here? Thank you, Sarah. On deck.

Good evening everybody. First of all, thanks for your time here tonight. My name is representing Mrs. Le currently home slots 11 and 14 as Kayla said which is part of the SH's addition to the town of Nashville. Um the petition to replat is to we're going to remain two separate lots which it is currently but if you look at the I believe you guys have an exhibit there. Um I did want to clarify on the anchorage. So first let me pull the plat up. I think in the general findings there was some miscommunication on the acreage. So the 0.49 which is next to the garage on the north side of the property that is what is being replatted as a part of this overall track in red from lot 11. And then the 72 acres on the south side of lot 14 is supposed to be entertained on this lot. So overall this track is going to be 1.21 acres and then the remainder which you don't see it's kind of a horseshoe shape around this parcel that you're seeing as part of the re there's going to be 4 and a half acres remaining there. So two tracks one being 1.21 and one being 4 and a half. Um, as Kayla said, the house and the two accessory buildings are retained on track one on the 1.21 acres. The remainder will be the 4.5. There are no improvements on that track. Uh, it it appears if you guys look at the overall map, not necessarily the survey, but when we first looked at it, looked like it would be able to be accessed off of Creek Road. It's around 25 foot elevation change there. It goes straight up whenever you enter the property off the county road. So that's the reason for the 25 ft plage accessing utility easement. Um red drive steps into Mrs. Lean's property and dead ends there on

her west property line. So that accessment will be across this 1.21 acre track to the remainder access of 4.5. And again that's for drainage access um and utilities. the way this is currently laid out, that's really the only the only possibility for access um to get to that remainder. This will be a, you know, a platted access ement that we're going to perpetuate with the property. Um I actually had someone call our office with concerns about what that can mean in the future. Obviously, we're not subdivided anymore and more lots are created on that 4 and 12 acre. We'll have to come back for this board. That's not the intent. Just like to downsize that 1.21 acres and then sell the remainder. Um I believe that is all I have unless you guys have any

questions for Yes sir.

We have a letter here uh from the town office of town administration and sewer utilities are available for Yes. That's the way I understand that's kind of outside our wheelhouse. Okay. Just to make sure that it was a possibility to get utilities to that property, which sounds like it is, but a little more involved. Yeah. Well, that's so there are city store and county lines are running out there.

Yes, sir. Ifations are put in. Yeah, I believe that. I believe I know this is out of your wheelhouse. I believe the utilities currently run up Red B Drive and to serve Mrs. Leggings property currently. So, there'll have to be an extension of utilities from Mrs. property to the east to access that remainder if that ever is developed. Um as far as the logistics behind that station.

Okay. I don't have a good answer for you. Excellent. Okay. Do we have any information on this forition? It's very common. I'll just tell you a package pump just a little pump. A lot of bas have them and so homes have them anymore. to try to minimize the depth of sewers and all that sort of business. So people end up having pumps at home. So

station well similar to that which can be very cost. Okay. more or less kind of like the pump for a you know gas system for you know anybody else. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Did you ask about the cards already? Yes.

Okay. I thought so. Okay. Um, anybody else have any questions or concerns right now? The only comment I had was I prefer the easement to be shown as a dash line. That's it. It could be that possible.

With that, uh, anybody else have anything uh, they wish to say on on behalf of the position? My name is Meer. My property is legally was originally part of all that about the house that was already there. I'm not necessarily born against, but I have some questions. Uh, so I don't know if you can bring that one photo up, Kayla. uh where it kind of shows the horseshoe cuz I don't I walk back there and I was looking for pins. This looks like the back of my house. Um that is the front of my house. This pin right here, this comes down red but I have a lane that I own. It's not an ement belongs with my property. So my property is like a rectangle with the lane that comes out. So, in the event that I ever had big trees that came down, I could get to my property because there's not a lot of clearance between the houses or big truck or anything. I'm assuming. So, I my lane goes this way to the back on my property. But, if you could bring that photo, um, we have another

one that shows where it's like the red and the yellow like the cut out of the one. Yeah. I think it was early or on the Are you looking at the plat? Well, it's hard. Okay. I came in your office and looked and it's hard. Is this what you're looking for?

It's hard to tell exactly where the new lots are going to come out. Uh I think my lot comes in. If you right there shows your name right there and it show you you want to come come out. Okay.

Right. The easements looks like it's only 10 foot wide over here. So what questions do we have? So she's retaining all this all the way to the back side. You can kind of see how it cuts out here. The whole whole thing currently is this big yellow, but it's like split in half kind of like we're keeping it as two lots but reortioning. some or she might.

The other question I had is Red Bud Lane and I had got a couple different answers so I'm not sure. Um, is that still maintained by the county or the city? I heard that that was kind of a closed road and the homeowners take care of that. We know who that would be up to the town who may

but the city does. All right. So because somebody else needs something different and I believe so upon splitting this we have no idea. Obviously, she wants to downside like that. She doesn't do she doesn't need all the property. Should in the future someone want to build houses there, all the approvals would have to go forth as far as drainage, erosion, all the above. So this is basically just to say I had a piece around if somebody is interested um not necessarily to be developed or whatever. Right. So this is just dividing the ground and if anything in the future should someone want to do something with it has to go through all the changes. Correct.

I believe somebody could build one house on it with the nor further approve like just normal building code and whatever building permit. Yeah. But if they were going to divide it into multiple parcels, whether that's two or more, then it would be the same process again, either minor or major. So, right now, I walk back there all the time. For me, it wouldn't be an ideal building spot uh because there's a lot of fallout. You got Crazy Creek. That's a But, you know, they build things.

Yeah. You could build one house per parcel now. And so, be a new parcel with no dwelling on it. So, one could be built there with just general building code and then they would have to worry about infrastructure and but it wouldn't be like an approval thing for one house to be built there. No further would have there for one. Do we know where that could be in that law? I don't know the topography that would be based on because there's sewer. There's more options. You don't have to site a septic system.

I probably won't even see it from my house because there's enough salt. But I was I couldn't tell exactly from the paperwork I got in GIS. If you look in GIS, it would show you the topography a little bit better. But so I walked by that lot a few times. Okay. Anyone else?

Please step up to the microphone. Sir Jim, I'm noting this. I just got a question. I own a house next to the far gap on the highway. I have down the greenhouse on the corner 4 to the main line on this drive. sewer on the ground. My question is to the gentleman here. Do they look in my line? My line 4 in line.

No, they would each I wouldn't think so. If that's if that 4 inch line did you put that 4 inch line in when you built so that's your line down to my line? Then they may they may do a 4 inch pressurized which is still more than enough. You could run in two. Okay. How did that keep I mean this is stupid question. How does that keep coming back? Check valves. Just a check valve. Yeah. It's it's the way any any of the pressurized sewers, right? That's that's pretty standard stuff that

that's all I

anyone else for clarification. My name is Andrea Rep. I'm at the bottom of this basic thing there. Um I do have a lift station because I'm behind everyone else level. So uh any kind of building here station um but I just want to make once again I just want to make sure I understand what's happening. So she's dividing what's in the red box the rest of that so that she can sell this part and keep that part. Right. And we know that the the horseshoe or whatever the around it portion uh at this point we're not determining and we don't know how that would be accessed. Is that correct? because of the huge

wellreasing. That's what the ementility come through there. I think that's I just wanted to make sure I understood. Thank you.

Anyone else? Okay, bring it back up to the board. have anything else to questions? Motion, please. Make a motion to approve petition 25-P6 as presented but with uh his plaque revision suggestions there second.

I'll second it. Any further discussion? Yes. Yes. Jones. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Motion carries. Yeah. We're going to take a five minute break real quick and uh restart the other two positions.

All right. And we have the next petition. All right. Staff report for Sutler and Steve Free number 25-t7. Hearing date November 18th, 2025. Requesting flat uh lot number L14 and lot number L15 in the quarter lake flat 9. Property owners James Sutner and Patricia Ski. Location and properties are located at 7307 Center Lake Drive, Nava, Indiana in McCordry Sweetwater Conservancy District in Hway Township. The zoning is Lake Residential LR. There's a residence on lot L14. General findings. One, since the lots are located within a previously approved subdivision, resize required to change the lot lines. Two, do you guys want me to read the resubd? Three, the petitioners own both lots. The home exists on lot L14 that has an encroachment onto lot L15. The encroachment consists of a dock and a tech. The home is currently for sale. The petitioners are requesting approval of the reflat to solve the encroachment and simplify the sale. Five, the replat of the property should not have a negative impact on setback requirements as both lots will remain similar in size. Summary, the property line adjustment is minor and should not as adversely impact the development of standard requirements of the lot. You can see the survey here.

back up. And then as you guys turn on your papers, we've got existing flat on one and then proposed on the other. This should be like a requirement because it's really hard to follow some of these to be like what is their what is it you're asking. So we will be redoing as soon as we get something from our surveyor where we'll be redoing the checklist and hopefully required require I I do like the existing

all on one page. It's it's so much easier. Well, even like that last one was a really good example like And then you go to look in GI, you know, because what's in GIS is what's there. So it's like, so you can't always understand what they're trying to do. Keep it simple. All right. Any other questions from the board? Seems pretty straightforward. Agreed. What you saying?

Yeah. Well, any questions? Is the petitioner here? Step up to the podium. They're almost all alone. almost. Hi. Your name? James Suter. Okay. Initial name James.

Anything you want to add? I mean, that's that's pretty Kayla pretty much covered what we're trying to do here. Um, as she had mentioned, there's two structures that encroach lot 15. We want to keep that lot. Um, we're going to sell lot 14. And yes, to make the sale easier and cleaner, um we thought we would redraw it. It's moving it about 15 ft to a clear. Does this get cards?

Uh yes. Yes. There were seven sent and three were returned. Okay. All right. Is the only question I have just with this being in like the conservancy district. Are there any differences in like them having to approve anything with lot? No. Whole area. Yeah. Yeah. Both legs and all around.

So there's no video. We will notify them. That the lot lines have been changed. Yeah. And I have notifi. Okay. So they're Did you guys hear that? He he's already notified the conser. Thank you. They're changing. Yep. Okay. Okay. All right. Any other questions or comments from the board?

I'm assuming speak. So then back to the next thing. All right. Anybody wishes to speak on behalf of this position? You already done your job. Okay. Anybody opposed? Okay. I'll bring it back up to the board. If there are no other questions or concerns, do I have a motion? I'll make a motion to approve docket number 25-P7 as submitted. Do I have a second? I'll second. All right. Is there no further discussion? Roll call. Jane, yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you very much.

Here in solidarity.

Yeah. You don't have to leave. Hold on. Stop it. All right. The last position. Um, Miss Kayla. Okay. Staff staff report for Seanfeld replant docket number 25-p November 18th, 2025. Request is a replant of lot numbers J2, J3, and J4 in Princess Surgery Lake Edition number one petitioner is Mau Surveying by Paul Mau. Property owners Eric and Elizabeth Shafeld. Location of the properties are located at 7108 Drone Drive, Ninevea, Indiana in the Portry Sweetwater Conservancy District in Hamlin Township. Zoning and current use. The zoning is Lake Residential LR. There's a residence on lot J2, lot J3, and lot J4 are vacant. General findings. One, since the lots are located within a previously approved subdivision, a replant is required to change the lot lines. Two, this is the subdivision control ordinance definition of replat. Three, the three adjoining parcels are under the same ownership. The home exists on lot J2 which is approximately 0.164 acres. Lot J3 contains approximately 0.138 acres and is vacant. Also vacant is lot J4 which consists of approximately 0.115 acres or the owners wish to divide the middle lot J3 and combine each half to the adjoining parcel. If approval is granted, lot J2A

will contain 0.236 acres while lot J4A will contain 081 acres. Five, the replat of the properties will increase the size of the lots and should not have a negative impact on setback requirements. Summary, approval of the replant would create two larger building sites as opposed to three small building sites. Approval of the reflash should not adversely impact the development standard requirements lot. And then here's the address marker on this tree. And then the stairs right past that. Here's looking down the existing house on the northernmost lot. did not go across the lake anymore.

All right, that's it. So the question I have but it says existing lot and easements to be vacated and they do they create a new one they're Right. Okay. Okay. Just Yeah. Right. So, I have another question. If I'm looking if our GIS is correct, there's three lots there. Now,

the house sits on the middle lot. Correct. No, those are probably skewed on the GIS map. Four lots. There's four lots. They're only using We're only dealing with three lots. Yeah, they own They own another lot. Yes, there's another lot there. But we're just looking at the three and wanting to turn the three into two.

Right through the middle of the house. This one. This one. This one right there. They did a boundary survey and they located all the there's another document that goes with this but it just seems counterintuitive to split the house on the lot.

So from three smaller ones, two larger ones with the possibility Any other questions for members? And with that, the cards put up. Yes. Six of 10. Okay. And is the petitioner here? By now you should know what the rules are.

For the record representing the owners here to clarify the the house is entirely on white lot and the two lots to the south are all at one deed and I think that's why the county shows it as one parcel. I think so. Yes, I think they may have been admin combined just for tax purposes, but I can check that as opposed to being just one law. I think yes, I think it's

I think I think I remember looking at that, but you go ahead and I'll I'll look that up just to make sure you put the So, you see that I think we're making it better with two bigger lots. the new setbacks that the county has now 10 and 25 J3 and J4 especially in J4 now you can see it's almost that little triangular area those little triangular areas in the middle of the lot only after you was first done I can't refer to it but I think the setbacks were five or six off of each lot line um so the increase to an aggregate of 25 really kind of devalues the lots And I'm not sure how could be built. Those lots are actually some bigger ones. There's these over on the left side of the road here. I've got the lines going south into that co area remain. Some of them

there is people that just want to be able to put their boat on the lake. Yeah. Well, I asked Kayla about I mean the original flat has building just like this one does. So I understand that you can change the zoning from one name to another but really increase the setback. Well there's kind of a director.

So anyway, I just wanted to bring that up if anybody doesn't sound like bought those J3 and J4 years ago 12 just get that variance from DCA I guess

you made my so I'm curious which one control if it's already been platted at six the setbacks when subdivision was done wouldn't that carry on I mean since they the setbacks were established back then were they established on the flat I think it's on the flat is it as a part of the original plan

yeah it's recorded I think that a lot hasn't been developed and they come in the new standard that they need to variance that they some some will say if a plat is recorded the plat shows setbacks that they just depends on so in a way we really it's a bad idea to show them on our plat we should just say a note that buildings setbacks are for current zone adoption or adoption because it change next month if we get a new zoning ordinance

or or you can adopt a provision that says use the old setbacks because I think if it's been platted it was kind of grandfather because if it's not been fighted off I I can see where we use the new setbacks but where it's already been platted off building sites have already been pretty much said didn't fit here by changing the building setbacks were making false sustain you're making lots unbuildable Well, and having the same setback as the other 30 plots that have been developed makes sense from an aesthetic standpoint as well. Yeah.

Good question. Anybody else got any questions on this petition? All right. Have a seat. Is there anybody else that wishes to speak on behalf of this position? Tim Brown.

So here's your hospitality. All right. Is there anybody who wishes to speak in opposition of this position? With that, I bring it back up to the board. Does the board have any final comments? If not, do I have a motion?

We approve the plan with respect to 25-p. All right. And with that, make a motion. I can make a motion, but I've been hungry you

motion carries. All right. Thank you, sir. And then anybody have any um questions or concerns? Anything else? I mean, we can discuss the meeting dates and the fact that somebody's got appointed to the board even a little bit over a month. And then we do have two um appointments on this board from the commissioners. I think we talked about that last me and Kyle. Yes. and Kyle has not um asked yet for reappoint. Oh, that's right. We find out

I believe that's going to be on their agenda for tomorrow. Well, like whether I'm reappointed or not. I don't I don't know. I will find out when the rest of the Yeah, that's what I was appointed. I just put in a letter saying continue. Who knows? Maybe my last meeting.

Is Andy the current BCA? Who is the And then is it Jane? And

I'm also That was it. Oh, and Randy, you're right. I'll even write it down. County appointment. You do not have an appointment.

We don't have to reappoint you. You're not up yet. like

I'm not

I'm sorry. I made that way harder than That's my fault. We adopt. Highlighter. There you go.

I'll make a motion. have one.

Can we We vote on that. I do have one.

Say I. Yeah. One major. very contentious major subdivisions. Good job.

Yeah. I can look into

it's the We have two that you can find right now. Right? Yes.

The You can't actually have it like